Next time they should go with free roam.

[Mike]

The Batman Begins game was a good rental but as an overall game it didnt push the right buttons with me. It didnt really capture the dark nature of the movie. The game was also too short. I think it would of been better if it was free roaming with a very dark tone. The Batman Begins game kept mentioning putting fear into your enemies but it was executed very wrong. The fighting was also very repetitive and the interrogation mechanics were mediocre. I hope they go with a free roaming Gotham with access to the Batcave and the Batmobile anytime we want in the next Batman game. It is the best Batman game but that's not saying much. I would give it a 6/

[user123456789]

The Batman Begins game would be excellent with a free-roam type environment that exists in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

[Mike]

The cape also bothered me too. Not to be nitpicky but he just didnt seem like batman with that skinny ass cape. It should almost cover hist chest and legs when he's standing still. I'm a Batman fan and felt like this game didnt really deliver the goods like the movie(BB) did. It would of been cool if it was free roaming, having us snatch up thugs in a very eerie horror like way from rooftops. Have citizens/thugs get scared if they see you. Better stealth and fighting mechanics. The fighting in BB was too klunky. The only thing I would give thumbs up to is the voice acting in BB game and they should keep the cast when they make another Batman game, but I doubt it.

[TheOne]

batman and robin for ps1 was free roam almost. :D

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

i honestly don't think that a free roaming game would work with batman. what i do think is that every level shouldn't be linear. now i haven't gotten the game, but since it's been compared to splinter cell i'm taking it from that. splinter cell was very linear in that the only doors you could open are the ones that allow you to move along in.

i think, let's say that if you are suppose to go in Crane's apartment building in the narrows you should start like in a random alley where you parked the batmobile. then you should have to sneak around the entire narrows searching for the right building and avoiding civilians seeing you. if civilians see you this could alert Crane's thugs and they would come get your or leave or something.

Also, if you in a building you should be able to walk where ever and use grapple where ever.

it's not totally free roam but it's a good start.

[S_H_F_4839]

batman and robin for ps1 was free roam almost. :D

I actually liked that game and own it, I am going to have to dig in my brothers room and see if I can find it.

[Spidey 2007]

batman and robin for ps1 was free roam almost. :D


ALMOST? bud it WAS free roam, first of its kind. now im going to go on and tell yuo my diea's of a free roaming batman game. BATMAN AND ROBIN for ps1...that was almost PERFECT for batman. but if it were done...lets say for ps3(being realistic) id like where picking your OWN path may lead to different things, the possibilities are truley endless with batman.

a free raoming next gen batman game would put ANY GTA to shame if it were done right, you would CONTROL batman, and YOU could use stealth, it doesnt have to be scripted, have a stealth or shadow meter, and you actually BEING batman, you would need to keep an eye out on the nightsky for a batsignal, then rush over there via grapple or batmobile. just think of the possibilities of what batman is, he is human, but has all the great toys, using the batgrapple MUCH liek the spiderweb will be unbelieveable FUN! because hes a regular guy, and YOU get to control him(if done right) another topic would be that CAPE, it could be controlled, held up around you for helping your stealthhttp://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/characters/batman/img/batlightLG.jpg

the graphics on the cape would make it look like a gigantic piece of cloth or whatever...think ALEX ROSS painting and how big and billowing that cape can be, and how beutiful it could look in a game...if you can imagine gliding up above rooftops with a GIGANTIC billowing cape
http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/batpromo.jpg BEUTIFUL REAL graphics (much like Batman begins but having less animated character movements(more real).

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/characters/dcposters/img/batmanlg.jpg

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/Batwoc56_57.jpg IMAGINE this scene in a real video game...IN PLAY! looking over the city

running along rooftops in alleyways, just LISTENING....you hear a girl scream, there wouldnt be any pop ups or anything even, it would be ALL your control, gotham in your hands as batman....you rush to the girl in need, on the rooftops above you observe....trying to think of a way to ef this guy up messin with this lady....you throw a batarang at a window, fence or some random thing, and he runs for it....BUT he has the purse, you jump down, look at the lady and see if she is alright, she says yes, then backup to the rooftops(the criminal couldnt have gotten far) you jump across roofs and you see a man runnning is fastest, thats gotta be him...you stalk him atop the rooftops until he finally stops...maybe at his apartment, you could either just waait it out and smash through a window, or take him out right then and there.....now there would be OTHER ways of going about catching him, hell you could of snatched him right up from that alley way! THAT is how a petty crime should go down, there would be MANY MANY different scenario's, much liek spiderman 2 but WIDER and WAY more involveing...and everything is NON-LINEAR..how EVERYbody likes it especially me!

now SOMEbody needs to get this done...it could be game of the year, or game of the decade, who knows!!! and im REALLY thinking it should be done on PS3. and other next gen systems, that way the graphics will look outSTANDING while having a GIGANTIC gotham to free roam with an outstanding amount of replayability, almost never ending if DONE right......

we need to start a petition, becuase everyone has got all these FANTASTIC ideas in there head. Imagine just you in the gigantic batcave, you could use the computer ANYtime....you could have a costume vault with an array of past costumes and new ones, different variantions, you could actually PICK what gadgets and weapons batman can take out that night, endless amounts of possibilities....ENDLESS even more so than spiderman.

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/Batwoc38_39.jpg Be able to actually gain clues, FIGURE out crimes USE your head! and the computer would help tremendously!

the time system in the game would be REAL time, it would take however long it takes before the sun raises, then report back to wayne manor, get some sleep to pass time, or even handle wayne enterprise buisness as serious mini games.... but once night rolls its head around, you can have the choice to take a breather....hey there could be a health bar, along with an intesity bar, and stanima bar. that may perfect your anger and performance upon criminals. you can go down to the cave via any secret entrance there is or could be in the game, you can go in the vault, go into a mode for batman suits, like colors (black grey, Blue gray, all black, yellow oval ect) you have an aray of utility belts, pouched, capsule....you can have the choice, your preparing to be batman as realisticly as it GETS, even pop a tylenol before heading out! He would show wear

thats the level of realism i want! and the game owuld be terribly LOOOONG, much like batman and robin for PS1, the game developers COULD have the choice to put a bigger plot into the fold maybe, or have it develop later on DEPENDING ON WHICH PATH YOU MAKE and how you EFFECT gotham!!!! HOW SWEET WOULD THAT BE!!! all in the mix dealing with this http://www.slushfactory.com/news/newspics/111802-Flashback.jpg his parents death, thinking about it sometimes, gives you the fight to go on and raises your meter.

How ironic would it be....Being that everyone lieks to claim that batman games always suck balls, that Batman"Legends" shall we call it, (just to fit in with every other legends game, lol) for Ps3 would be the best game of all time...heh

i could go on ALLLL NIGHT about this "dream" game, but im sure you guys dont want to read all of this!

[TheShadow]

Well A free roam game I.M.O. Could make the game..or kill it. You Just need the right person directing the game. If you dont then the thing can go down the tubes faster then superman 64

[Spidey 2007]

Well A free roam game I.M.O. Could make the game..or kill it. You Just need the right person directing the game. If you dont then the thing can go down the tubes faster then superman 64

lol i dont think anything could go down a tube faster then superman 64.

[Mike]

ALMOST? bud it WAS free roam, first of its kind. now im going to go on and tell yuo my diea's of a free roaming batman game. BATMAN AND ROBIN for ps1...that was almost PERFECT for batman. but if it were done...lets say for ps3(being realistic) id like where picking your OWN path may lead to different things, the possibilities are truley endless with batman.

a free raoming next gen batman game would put ANY GTA to shame if it were done right, you would CONTROL batman, and YOU could use stealth, it doesnt have to be scripted, have a stealth or shadow meter, and you actually BEING batman, you would need to keep an eye out on the nightsky for a batsignal, then rush over there via grapple or batmobile. just think of the possibilities of what batman is, he is human, but has all the great toys, using the batgrapple MUCH liek the spiderweb will be unbelieveable FUN! because hes a regular guy, and YOU get to control him(if done right) another topic would be that CAPE, it could be controlled, held up around you for helping your stealthhttp://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/characters/batman/img/batlightLG.jpg

the graphics on the cape would make it look like a gigantic piece of cloth or whatever...think ALEX ROSS painting and how big and billowing that cape can be, and how beutiful it could look in a game...if you can imagine gliding up above rooftops with a GIGANTIC billowing cape
http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/batpromo.jpg BEUTIFUL REAL graphics (much like Batman begins but having less animated character movements(more real).

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/characters/dcposters/img/batmanlg.jpg

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/Batwoc56_57.jpg IMAGINE this scene in a real video game...IN PLAY! looking over the city

running along rooftops in alleyways, just LISTENING....you hear a girl scream, there wouldnt be any pop ups or anything even, it would be ALL your control, gotham in your hands as batman....you rush to the girl in need, on the rooftops above you observe....trying to think of a way to ef this guy up messin with this lady....you throw a batarang at a window, fence or some random thing, and he runs for it....BUT he has the purse, you jump down, look at the lady and see if she is alright, she says yes, then backup to the rooftops(the criminal couldnt have gotten far) you jump across roofs and you see a man runnning is fastest, thats gotta be him...you stalk him atop the rooftops until he finally stops...maybe at his apartment, you could either just waait it out and smash through a window, or take him out right then and there.....now there would be OTHER ways of going about catching him, hell you could of snatched him right up from that alley way! THAT is how a petty crime should go down, there would be MANY MANY different scenario's, much liek spiderman 2 but WIDER and WAY more involveing...and everything is NON-LINEAR..how EVERYbody likes it especially me!

now SOMEbody needs to get this done...it could be game of the year, or game of the decade, who knows!!! and im REALLY thinking it should be done on PS3. and other next gen systems, that way the graphics will look outSTANDING while having a GIGANTIC gotham to free roam with an outstanding amount of replayability, almost never ending if DONE right......

we need to start a petition, becuase everyone has got all these FANTASTIC ideas in there head. Imagine just you in the gigantic batcave, you could use the computer ANYtime....you could have a costume vault with an array of past costumes and new ones, different variantions, you could actually PICK what gadgets and weapons batman can take out that night, endless amounts of possibilities....ENDLESS even more so than spiderman.

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/oversized/batman/img/Batwoc38_39.jpg Be able to actually gain clues, FIGURE out crimes USE your head! and the computer would help tremendously!

the time system in the game would be REAL time, it would take however long it takes before the sun raises, then report back to wayne manor, get some sleep to pass time, or even handle wayne enterprise buisness as serious mini games.... but once night rolls its head around, you can have the choice to take a breather....hey there could be a health bar, along with an intesity bar, and stanima bar. that may perfect your anger and performance upon criminals. you can go down to the cave via any secret entrance there is or could be in the game, you can go in the vault, go into a mode for batman suits, like colors (black grey, Blue gray, all black, yellow oval ect) you have an aray of utility belts, pouched, capsule....you can have the choice, your preparing to be batman as realisticly as it GETS, even pop a tylenol before heading out! He would show wear

thats the level of realism i want! and the game owuld be terribly LOOOONG, much like batman and robin for PS1, the game developers COULD have the choice to put a bigger plot into the fold maybe, or have it develop later on DEPENDING ON WHICH PATH YOU MAKE and how you EFFECT gotham!!!! HOW SWEET WOULD THAT BE!!! all in the mix dealing with this http://www.slushfactory.com/news/newspics/111802-Flashback.jpg his parents death, thinking about it sometimes, gives you the fight to go on and raises your meter.

How ironic would it be....Being that everyone lieks to claim that batman games always suck balls, that Batman"Legends" shall we call it, (just to fit in with every other legends game, lol) for Ps3 would be the best game of all time...heh

i could go on ALLLL NIGHT about this "dream" game, but im sure you guys dont want to read all of this! Dude you seriously need to keep going!!! Great ideas man :up: I wish you were the lead desginer for that Batman Begins game.

[Spidey 2007]

Dude you seriously need to keep going!!! Great ideas man :up: I wish you were the lead desginer for that Batman Begins game.


heh, thanks! finally some recognition for that long post :cool:

there really is an endless amount of ideas, that people behind the games totally fail to relize, and i cant believe anyone really doesnt think of what i wrote up. It would take time to make sure, but i willl wait. If one day i see it confirmed....my life MAY be complete. Now only if i had the educationa nd smarts to actually make games, you have this puppy by now! but thats pretty impossible, I can just shoot my ideas out here all day, but not go anywhere.

thanks tho :up:

[Mike]

Dude you never know, EA or Ubi Soft or whoever is developing the next Batman game might look at you and my ideas. We're going into the next gen consoles and I dont think the developers are going to make money if they have simple gameplay, crap graphics, and a short ass Story Mode, especially if the next gen games are going to cost 60 bucks. But seriously go on, you might just make me motivated to write out a long ass wish list like how you did. But please, keep the ideas coming, :up:

[Spidey 2007]

okay! stay tuned for yet...more wonderful Bat-Ideas!

[I_believe_you]

okay! stay tuned for yet...more wonderful Bat-Ideas!

Same Bat-thread?
Same Bat-time?

[ProjectPat2280]

The costume in Begins is alot more menacing than the designs posted earlier, but great ideas nontheless. I thought Batman Begins was pretty damn good. Graphics were great, sound was great, control was great. I didnt like the in-ability to level select however and the game was a bit short(kinda expected that tho). Overall, the game, i thought did a good job with keeping up with the movies atmosphere. The fact is i had fun playing the game, and thats what it ultimately comes to. I give it an 8.
O yea , Mike, man thats some really kick ass ideas you got man, most ppl spit out these crazy ass ideas that could never actually happen, yours tho man, are pretty damn plausable, tad bit far-fetched but plausable nontheless.

[Spidey 2007]

Same Bat-thread?
Same Bat-time?

...probably yeaa... ^_^

anyone have a EA or ubi soft members name? Hell you has the rights to the comic-book type batman, surely not Kemco still?

[Spidey 2007]

The costume in Begins is alot more menacing than the designs posted earlier, but great ideas nontheless. I thought Batman Begins was pretty damn good. Graphics were great, sound was great, control was great. I didnt like the in-ability to level select however and the game was a bit short(kinda expected that tho). Overall, the game, i thought did a good job with keeping up with the movies atmosphere. The fact is i had fun playing the game, and thats what it ultimately comes to. I give it an 8.

thanks for your review! :oo

but uhh, it can get alot better, im sayin a free raoming comic-book style game with movie costumes available IN it, the ULTIMATE batman game.....Batman:Legends lol. wouldnt it be cool to play Robin batgirl and nightwing too? ah yess, theres an idea, like i said earlier about choosing your pathway through your life as Batman, there could be like four unpredictable games, each pathway with a villian behind the story, and a sidekick story, say you end up with Robin, and nightwing and batgirl are off away...doing...something, lol, there would be an intresting story concerning robin, and say the main villian behind that story would be...uh...lets say Riddler. i dont know how to describe it any better then that at the moment, but hopefully ya get my idea. look at it like the WWE games, how the story mode works on that, or the choose your own adventure books, your decisions affect the game drastically, but theres never a "game over" Hey if Tim gets killed by the joker or whoever, it will be the players fault, for either al.not being there or making the wrong move, just as if it were real.

That is only a dream concept, because yea I love batmans allies, and would love to play as them, or at there side. But scratching that idea is fine. Name it Batman:year one, there could be your story and VARIOUS sequeals to come, Batman year 2, or some crap like that..maybe not.

I cant really think of that much as good as i thought last night, i was pumped last night, lol. Maybe YOU guys would like to express your thoughts on something?

But something I love in Batman and Robin PS1 was that there were crimes you had to race to, If you were late, you could scower the area for left over CLUES, and if you were EARLY, before the robber or villian got there, you had the chance to foil or protect the store/place from him. You would have the Police headquarters marked on your map, you could stop by Gordons office ANYtime, just liek the animated series, and get info on what MAY be happening, or who is out on the loose to watch out for. Heh, you could even have the choice, when gordon looks away, to hurry up out the window, standing on the ledge of the building you would here him whisper "how...what....." or "why does he always do that!" or something. Little touches like that can make the game special in the hearts of many.

Back to what i mentioned about getting to a crime scene early, you collected clues from the previous crime from this guy/super villian you need to bust, so you arrive early at the proposed jewlery shop(for example). THIS is where the stealth comes in BIG time, you must think, you have MANY gadgets, look out for trip wires, and investigate the place, see what they are after. You could stake out for a couple minutes, or how ever it takesyou hear someone in the other room, he comes in to scope the place out, you snatch him up in the darkness, nobody see's you.....you pick off your enemies ONE by ONE, PURE batman style...dispose of them as you wish. Hell, you could hang him on a coat rack, so when the guy with the flashlight points at him, he gets the **** scared outta him! You could even set it up, as when he starts running, stand right behind him, and he runs into you without knowing. grab him up and interrigate. Cuff them all and dispose of them however you would like, hang them from a street post or something, and alert gordon. Now thats only the petty crime scenario.

Maybe some other stuff will come to me, but hopefully you guys could add, and maybe i can pitch this idea over WB entertainment, or whoever runs the video game deparment if its at all possible, lol, like i said, wouldnt a petition rule?

[Spidey 2007]

This just popped into my head, but PLEASE picture with me, USING the BATCYCLE to get from one place to another, how much of a rush would THAT BE!!? you know how fun it is in say, GTA SA, but this right here would easily blow that away. Your Cape blowing in the air, as your racing thruogh the streets of gotham fastest you can in all the PS3 GRAPHIC GLORY! Just imagine how badass it would look.

Hell here comes another Idea...Car chases involving the batmobile or batcycle, liek i said with the choosing your path, you make a mistake, and a ew criminals got away, you need to chase after them and get answers, they could be working for a big boss, such as Two-face.....so you run to your batmobile(whatever batmobile you choose fromt he cave), push Triangle to get in, X to start ignition and X to accelerate, also included would be the analog sticks, with pressure sensitivity, and well, race to find them, then you relize, DOH' forgot to tag there car with a tracer. THATS what the whole realism thing would be about, You must think liek the Bat. it would be your fault you didnt tag it, you had the option to, but you forgot, so now what? Lets take a Batcycle scenario, same controls, but you actually tagged the car. Chasing along swerving in between traffic, in Beutiful PS3 graphics, Cape whipping in the air, you ride up along side the car, they may have guns, they may not, you shoudl decide what youd need to do, now lets say these boys dont have guns, you push Square....leaping off your Batcycle(you can manufacture another in your spare time) with your beutiful bat-cape and graphics, you land atop the criminals car, THIS is where it would play out liek Spiderman 2, but in that game there wasnt the deep story. press square to Start pounding on the roof, or you could reach thru the window by pressing circle, or vice versa. Now at this point your putting your life in danger, you have a thug in your grips, what do you do? you notice, we arnt on the best of pathways, and this car is heading for a wall. so you think, I leap off, Press X, while still holding the thug(hold in L1 or something) then while up in mid air, fire your Grapple(R1) while directioning yourself with the analog stick!!!! WHAT A RUSH!, pull yourself up to the nearest ledge, just toss that thug up hold him over the edge and a list of sayings...and interigation remarks would pop up. choose one get your answer, then hell, if he asks who you are....tell him your BATMAN ;).......tie him up, the others are in the wreck down there...and report to gordon.

Phew, and that right there my friends would be a petty crime at its best!!!! hell you could even track down your batcycle, it may still be able to run, then back to the batcave, if ya WANT to, maybe you suffered some type of damage you wanna wrap up.


Heh, Any additions or critisizm is welcome!!!

[Spidey 2007]

HMMMMM, just though of great thing....I always stress PS3, but theres NOTHING i wouldnt want more then a ps2 version of a free raoming batman game, because i was taking a stroll around IGN and Noticed the New Spiderman game....which i TOTALLY forgot about

ultimate Spiderman, lets see how THAT puppy turns out!, its not far away either. back on the ps3 note, The Getaway

now take a look at some of these

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614784/the-getaway-3-20050516072440159.jpg YA YA its LONDON i know, but look at the detail! imagine a sprawling GOTHAM CITY

or enviroments such as this with detail, mayeb youll get some idea on how well this could be done if someone gets their head outta their asses.http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/616/616976/the-getaway-ps3-20050519100623263.jpg

as you all well and know Spiderman 3 is also slated for PS3...now, If batman doesnt come out before then, im sure spiderman 3 will REVOLUTIONIZE free raom gaming, i think its possible.

OKAY More news just KEEPS rolling the **** in! take a look at this! http://ps3.ign.com/articles/626/626820p1.html

now it wont be batman, but can include batman yes. Time will tell on how all of this will play out!

[Mike]

I think the free roaming Batman game should be like Batman Begins where Batman is actually scary and less campy. Have Batman be brutal and have his costume dark and scary. I kind of dont want to see any allies in the game. They just make Batman seem too campy. It should have weather physics too. I dont think we should change in and out of costume; leave that to Supes and Spidey. Most of Batman's enemies should be in the game and make them have a real but errie design to them. Wayne Manor would be cool to explore, maybe when can only change into Bruce when we're in the manor and Batcave. It would be cool if we could go in the Batcave and on Batman's computer and look at his enemies profile. The only vehicles I think Batman should have is the Batmobile,Batwing, and the Batcycle. But most of the time I think I'll be gliding or jumping roof tops.

[Spidey 2007]

I think the free roaming Batman game should be like Batman Begins where Batman is actually scary and less campy. Have Batman be brutal and have his costume dark and scary. I kind of dont want to see any allies in the game. They just make Batman seem too campy. It should have weather physics too. I dont think we should change in and out of costume; leave that to Supes and Spidey. Most of Batman's enemies should be in the game and make them have a real but errie design to them. Wayne Manor would be cool to explore, maybe when can only change into Bruce when we're in the manor and Batcave. It would be cool if we could go in the Batcave and on Batman's computer and look at his enemies profile. The only vehicles I think Batman should have is the Batmobile,Batwing, and the Batcycle. But most of the time I think I'll be gliding or jumping roof tops. well i hope your not directing that first line at me, i was never ever implying he should be campy AT all, notice my whole scenario i wrote up!!!

okay so your saying LIMIT the stuff we can do and make me unhappy :p


okay, well, you bring up a terrific, TERRIFIC point about weather physics, i dont know why i ddint think about it. but yea, that could make the game even more fun and beutiful.

Now I like your ideas, its just limited in my perspective, why would just want to limit to that? why not widen it up to satisy everybody, i mean, you still can DO that, you can MAKE your own path, if you want to you dont HAAVE to ever change your costume, and you can buld your reputation as one scary son ofa *****!!!!! you wouldnt have to change into bruce wayne, you wouldnt care about the wayne enterprise, lol, then it would fall terribly, but yuo dont care ;)

what im trying to say, is that im thinking your limiting the possibilities mike, have all of your ideas, the dark, creepy aspect in it. And i disagree about the sidekicks, it depends one HOW you USE them, these characters are really deep, and i dont think tim drake makes batman campy at all if used right, he could be one badass muther ****er, that could **** you or me up instantly! Same with nightwing, dont tell me you wouldnt want to play as Dick Grayson, The most ATHLETIC person in the DC universe, how fun would that be, hell hop on over to bludhaven! IF used right, these people can be serious, if (like i said) used right. http://www.comicsvf.com/scans/vodc/nightwing/1.jpg

but hey, thats just my honest opinion, i love robin and nightwing, and batgirl, you dont have to :) just add them in the game for us fella's who would LOVE to play as them! it WOULDNT be Rise of Sin tzu at allll, keep that in mind ;)


Nightwing Reminded me of another feature.... Power bars, and meters.

Agility, Strength, Speed, would be basic stuff, you would be able to view those by either pressing select, and going into the menu screen, or in the batcave, you can constantly add to those meters. Some other meters are some i mentioned before, the reputation meter, the shadow meter(which would be on screen at all times by your health bar and stanima bar) and probably one other bar, maybe some type of meter that tracks your fight skills, or your ability of fighting, or what you actually know, or SOMETHING, I dont know. maybe ill clear it up later ;)

[Spidey 2007]

Here are some PS3 screenshots from a game called darknes, DONT mind the scary demon creatures, but what the enviroments can look like, dark, dark, dark, and scary.


http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/618/618211/the-darkness-20050522031135520.jpg http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/618/618211/the-darkness-20050522031148363.jpg

[Mike]

well i hope your not directing that first line at me, i was never ever implying he should be campy AT all, notice my whole scenario i wrote up!!!

okay so your saying LIMIT the stuff we can do and make me unhappy :p


okay, well, you bring up a terrific, TERRIFIC point about weather physics, i dont know why i ddint think about it. but yea, that could make the game even more fun and beutiful.

Now I like your ideas, its just limited in my perspective, why would just want to limit to that? why not widen it up to satisy everybody, i mean, you still can DO that, you can MAKE your own path, if you want to you dont HAAVE to ever change your costume, and you can buld your reputation as one scary son ofa *****!!!!! you wouldnt have to change into bruce wayne, you wouldnt care about the wayne enterprise, lol, then it would fall terribly, but yuo dont care ;)

what im trying to say, is that im thinking your limiting the possibilities mike, have all of your ideas, the dark, creepy aspect in it. And i disagree about the sidekicks, it depends one HOW you USE them, these characters are really deep, and i dont think tim drake makes batman campy at all if used right, he could be one badass muther ****er, that could **** you or me up instantly! Same with nightwing, dont tell me you wouldnt want to play as Dick Grayson, The most ATHLETIC person in the DC universe, how fun would that be, hell hop on over to bludhaven! IF used right, these people can be serious, if (like i said) used right. http://www.comicsvf.com/scans/vodc/nightwing/1.jpg

but hey, thats just my honest opinion, i love robin and nightwing, and batgirl, you dont have to :) just add them in the game for us fella's who would LOVE to play as them! it WOULDNT be Rise of Sin tzu at allll, keep that in mind ;)


Nightwing Reminded me of another feature.... Power bars, and meters.

Agility, Strength, Speed, would be basic stuff, you would be able to view those by either pressing select, and going into the menu screen, or in the batcave, you can constantly add to those meters. Some other meters are some i mentioned before, the reputation meter, the shadow meter(which would be on screen at all times by your health bar and stanima bar) and probably one other bar, maybe some type of meter that tracks your fight skills, or your ability of fighting, or what you actually know, or SOMETHING, I dont know. maybe ill clear it up later ;) I kind of dont want to limit everything but I just think we should have a darker Batman we havent seen in the video game world yet. It would be cool to have NightWing in there but no Batgirl, I'm sorry she's just corny. Believe me if you knew half of the ideas I want in a free roaming Batman game you would see I'm thinking more then just under the bar. But about Bruce Wayne, what could we do as Bruce, buy companies/buildings? Bruce is a billionare, his money is damn there limitless. Maybe we could go to parties and mingle.Maybe we could check out Wayne Inc. But I doubt that EA would put that in any Batman game. I hated the fighting and scare tatics used in the BB game. I would just like to dispose of a thugs weapon with a batarang or any way I want. I dont want a scripted straight foward,"YOU HAVE TO DO THIS," linear technique on taking out thugs. It would be cool if the Batmobile would just come when we want it to with a click of a button. I think there should be a cool interrogation mini game, better than Punisher. We could hang thugs upside down from roof tops and just let them drop until they're inches from the ground.

[The Riddler]

and during the day why not have the option to play as bruce and collect resources, build things, workout to get stronger and use aliases like matches malone, etc.

it'll never happen though, spidey 2007. :(

[Spidey 2007]

I kind of dont want to limit everything but I just think we should have a darker Batman we havent seen in the video game world yet. It would be cool to have NightWing in there but no Batgirl, I'm sorry she's just corny. Believe me if you knew half of the ideas I want in a free roaming Batman game you would see I'm thinking more then just under the bar. But about Bruce Wayne, what could we do as Bruce, buy companies/buildings? Bruce is a billionare, his money is damn there limitless. Maybe we could go to parties and mingle.Maybe we could check out Wayne Inc. But I doubt that EA would put that in any Batman game. I hated the fighting and scare tatics used in the BB game. I would just like to dispose of a thugs weapon with a batarang or any way I want. I dont want a scripted straight foward,"YOU HAVE TO DO THIS," linear technique on taking out thugs. It would be cool if the Batmobile would just come when we want it to with a click of a button. I think there should be a cool interrogation mini game, better than Punisher. We could hang thugs upside down from roof tops and just let them drop until they're inches from the ground.

I agree, i posted that in my first response man, the linear **** has to go.

i BEG you to list your ideas, im BEGGING, im here, you cant see me, but im on my knees!?!?!?!? Thats a great idea on the interrogations.

im sticking this stuff in a neat portfolio and ****(of course theres more to it) and sending it EA's way. list your damn ideas. :cool:

[The Riddler]

also, i don't want this game based on any movie, i want it to be based on the comics. :mad:

[Spidey 2007]

and during the day why not have the option to play as bruce and collect resources, build things, workout to get stronger and use aliases like matches malone, etc.

it'll never happen though, spidey 2007. :(


oh ya, i know itll never happen man, i know, but its fun as hell trying!

[Spidey 2007]

also, i don't want this game based on any movie, i want it to be based on the comics. :mad:

and who said anyone wanted it based on any movie? i sure as hell didnt. i just noted how badass it would be that the movie costumes and batmobiles would be available

[The Riddler]

and who said anyone wanted it based on any movie? i sure as hell didnt. i just noted how badass it would be that the movie costumes and batmobiles would be available
would a cel shaded batman work?

that'd be sweet, imo

[Spidey 2007]

would a cel shaded batman work?

that'd be sweet, imo


HEEELLLL NO.....theres too much of that ****.

dont get me wrong i love cell shading, but it needs to be realistic, read my first post about the graphics on the cape and the screenshots i posted how how realistic it should be.

I want a game that you can immerse yourself into, feel liek you ARE batman, not a cartoonish comic book video game. that just....i dont know, i dont think it would be dark enough, or anyone wouldnt be able to take it seriously.

but if it were a free raoming batman the naimated series game, im all for it! i Just needs me a realistic game based on the comics.

[The Riddler]

but if it's based on the comics, it should be cel shaded.

if it's based on the movie, it should be realistic.

my opinion, of course.

[Spidey 2007]

but if it's based on the comics, it should be cel shaded.

if it's based on the movie, it should be realistic.

my opinion, of course.


okay, i respect your opinion, i love that your even POSTING here, lol. but look at dark tomorrow (ya i know everyone ****ing hates it) but they got the look of how comic books should come off ina realistic way, cel shading wouldnt work, im telling ya, with the "dark" angle it cant. liek i said, if it were the ANIMATED series, then SURE! because THAT works. i dont know how to explain it man, i really dont. we want the best batman game possible dont we?

http://www.gaming-media.com/_feature/batman/bm-ss02.jpg

http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/multi-platform/batman-dark-tomorrow/batman-dark-tomorrow-1.jpg

now see how it would work? just imagine that, but MORE realistic!!!!!!!! liek a metal gear solid title, or splinter cell type graphics.

http://images.multiplayer.it/gioco/578/1578/s_img0030.jpg Like that, a 3D rendered model BASED on comic art into a realistic look.

IT WORKS if done right, KEMCO didnt do it right gameplay wise, but the graphics and cut scenes are amazing stuff, imagine, im telling you to use your imagination, please, lol, i dont think anyone HAS.

[The Riddler]

yeah, the visuals in dark tomorrow were actually good.

i'd like an overall better looking batman though. :up:

damn i wish they would make a game like this.

why don't they make any batman games based on the comics, like ultimate spider-man or the spider-man classics series? :mad::mad:

[Spidey 2007]

yeah, the visuals in dark tomorrow were actually good.

i'd like an overall better looking batman though. :up:

damn i wish they would make a game like this.

why don't they make any batman games based on the comics, like ultimate spider-man or the spider-man classics series? :mad::mad:


Im seriously about to throw up, lol

yes, it WOULD be be better, i dont know how to explain it any better i wish i had help, someone with the same vision as me.

go look at the alex ross pictures i posted, the games graphics would be even BETTER then that if they could be, he would be of course alot more muscular then ross's fatter batman! but I HOPE YOU SEE MY VISION THROUGH that artwork, looka t it, thats what it would be SIMILAR to

[Spidey 2007]

These are some of the cut-scene shots of batman dark tomorrow, now imagine THOSE GRAPHICS as the actual IN-GAME graphics only OF COURSE a retooled, cooler looking more bad ass batman 3D model. thats SORt of what im imagining, for the realistic aspect on comic book graphics.

http://www.thelightworks.com/images/pics/ref_entertainment/batman_dt4.jpg http://www.thelightworks.com/images/pics/ref_entertainment/batman_dt8.jpg http://www.thelightworks.com/images/pics/ref_entertainment/batman_dt2.jpg
http://www.nlgaming.com/games/652/13.jpg Okay, imagine that with BETTER detail, look at the gloves, imagine that model in real time, with of course better detail, no BATFAN could disagree

playing robin would be badass... But thats BESIDE THE POINTS!!!

[The Riddler]

damn, those cut scenes look good.

maybe i should try out batman dark tomorrow...

[Spidey 2007]

damn, those cut scenes look good.

maybe i should try out batman dark tomorrow...

I recommend it, its one of my favorite games yes. but i will garentee you wont like it, unless your a die hard batman fan. and im sure youll get frustrated as hell with the begining, just liek everyone else, they quit.

def. one of the best. But again, this isnt the thread about Dark tomorrow, i just posted that for EXAMPLES


*cries*

[The Riddler]

I recommend it, its one of my favorite games yes. but i will garentee you wont like it, unless your a die hard batman fan. and im sure youll get frustrated as hell with the begining, just liek everyone else, they quit.

def. one of the best. But again, this isnt the thread about Dark tomorrow, i just posted that for EXAMPLES


*cries*
i heard outside of the visuals, the game sucked. :(

[TheBat812]

if you've played the batman begins game and watched the interviews, there's this one where they show the actual animations with HIGH POLY characters that look amazing. That's the kind of stuff we'll be getting with next-gen... simply amazing stuff. I want it as realistic as possible based on the movie world.

[Mike]

I agree, i posted that in my first response man, the linear **** has to go.

i BEG you to list your ideas, im BEGGING, im here, you cant see me, but im on my knees!?!?!?!? Thats a great idea on the interrogations.

im sticking this stuff in a neat portfolio and ****(of course theres more to it) and sending it EA's way. list your damn ideas. :cool: Yeah I'll post my ideas later on tonight. I have to go to work soon. But yeah, I'm going to post a crap load of ideas.

[TheShadow]

God dont post dark tomarrow game is soooo bad

[Spidey 2007]

God dont post dark tomarrow game is soooo bad

pleeeaaase, if you dont have anything constructive to say, please dont spam it up.

[JLBats]

I'd like a film noir kinda game where Bats can take a case from Gordon, etc. roam around, check seedy bars while in disguise for clues and informants.


That would be not only my ideal Batman game, but movie too. Never the less, Begins kicked ass.

[RedIsNotBlue]

This game was just average. It seems they just didn't try to get creative with it or make it better in any way. They basically just made a game to go along with the movie release...nothing more nothing less. The unlockables and bonuses are really disappointing too. I hope we get a Batman game that is somewhat like Spider-Man 2 was. Batman is a vigilante...so we should be able to play him as a vigilante in the games. I WANT AN IN DEPTH BATMAN GAME!

[Spidey 2007]

This game was just average. It seems they just didn't try to get creative with it or make it better in any way. They basically just made a game to go along with the movie release...nothing more nothing less. The unlockables and bonuses are really disappointing too. I hope we get a Batman game that is somewhat like Spider-Man 2 was. Batman is a vigilante...so we should be able to play him as a vigilante in the games. I WANT AN IN DEPTH BATMAN GAME!

take a look at my posts :up: ;)

[Dr. MIX]

Some of you expected too much from EA games...

[TheShadow]

No i did Not come on look at what they did with catwoman. my hopes werent that high. Untill I played the thing i was happy

[Spidey 2007]

No i did Not come on look at what they did with catwoman. my hopes werent that high. Untill I played the thing i was happy


by this day and age?


Nobody wants a free raoming game here, i tell ya, or else theyd help me!

[Big Bat 87]

Guys write emails to EA about all these ideas, theyre fantastic. I was alittle disappointed in the game, 6/10, just because I wanted to drive the car more, go through the house, the cave, the city. If you guys call or write this could very well happen.

[TheShadow]

Spidery your ideas are good don't get me wrong, but It wont happen any where near this detail, The reason why, Because it would take at least 5 or more years to make. How do I. Know this? Because my friend who works on video games gave me a great look over of the detail it would take just to make the gotham area. the way you want your game to be is so detailed, well lets just say it has been tried before in any superhero game..in the terms of detail. He says he doubts something that close will ever come out..But I hope something close to your ideas will happen.

[Spidey 2007]

Spidery your ideas are good don't get me wrong, but It wont happen any where near this detail, The reason why, Because it would take at least 5 or more years to make. How do I. Know this? Because my friend who works on video games gave me a great look over of the detail it would take just to make the gotham area. the way you want your game to be is so detailed, well lets just say it has been tried before in any superhero game..in the terms of detail. He says he doubts something that close will ever come out..But I hope something close to your ideas will happen.

did i say i wouldnt wait? ...no

i know not all my ideas are possible for right now, some of that stuff was to get you guys moving, which it REALLY didnt, nobody here has had barely any ideas at all. If it takes ****ing 5 years, great grand WONDERFUL! at least we are getting it, by the end of ps3 run or something. i just dont want THAT 5 years to be 5 YEARS from NOW, or 10, i wanna get this moving as fast as possible.

[BatmanRules33]

you dont want scripted? then go play a MMORP like the matrix online or SW galazies or somethin, cuz thats obvisously what you want. for batman, a MMO would be very cool, no doubt, thing is, you'd probably wind up paying monthly to play in it, and thats the reason i didnt do the matrix online.

[Spidey 2007]

you dont want scripted? then go play a MMORP like the matrix online or SW galazies or somethin, cuz thats obvisously what you want. for batman, a MMO would be very cool, no doubt, thing is, you'd probably wind up paying monthly to play in it, and thats the reason i didnt do the matrix online.

no, i dont want 100% scripted like Begins was, I want SOME scirption like with a storyline, but majority Free roam, with out all the RPG ****, or whatever the hell you call it.


what are you talking about dude? whoever has a DC universe MMORP coming for ps3, wouldnt work for batman, multiplayer? who? just wouldnt work, i dunno.....

i dont want that for batman dude, i dont know how you got that idea from me reading my posts? I dunno, maybe it was the choose your path thing, but maybe im talking about a new game style?

STOP CONFUSING MEEE!!! i dont want an MMORP BATMAN gaaame. we are getting that DC universe one, it just wouldnt work with batman

*bangs head against wall*

[BatmanRules33]

no, i dont want 100% scripted like Begins was, I want SOME scirption like with a storyline, but majority Free roam, with out all the RPG ****, or whatever the hell you call it.


what are you talking about dude? whoever has a DC universe MMORP coming for ps3, wouldnt work for batman, multiplayer? who? just wouldnt work, i dunno.....

i dont want that for batman dude, i dont know how you got that idea from me reading my posts? I dunno, maybe it was the choose your path thing, but maybe im talking about a new game style?

STOP CONFUSING MEEE!!! i dont want an MMORP BATMAN gaaame. we are getting that DC universe one, it just wouldnt work with batman

*bangs head against wall*

lol, dude, do you KNOW what a mmopg is? if so, i really thought that you meant something like that, ya know, FREE ROAM, and in those kinda games they aloow more free roam then any other kinda game, only it'd have to be for computer, not for ps2. anyways, u cant blame me for thinking that, alot of your ideas sound like a massivle multiplayer online roleplaying game. and yes, those have some scripted stuff too, but most of the time you can free roam and do whatever you want.

[Spidey 2007]

lol, dude, do you KNOW what a mmopg is? if so, i really thought that you meant something like that, ya know, FREE ROAM, and in those kinda games they aloow more free roam then any other kinda game, only it'd have to be for computer, not for ps2. anyways, u cant blame me for thinking that, alot of your ideas sound like a massivle multiplayer online roleplaying game. and yes, those have some scripted stuff too, but most of the time you can free roam and do whatever you want.


yes i know i know..but multiplayer cant work with batman dealing with one hero..or hell 4 big whoop. we are getting a DC one...hard to understand huh?, and i dont want it on PC. i know what MMOPG is, i dislike them. I dont think your getting me with my ideas and such about a free raoming bat-game, so just bugger off. :up:

[TheShadow]

A mmoRpg is a role playing game..i wouldn't want to play a role playing batman game..and wouldn't there be I don't know 1,000,000 batman on screen. Anyway, I cant wait to hear more ideas from spidey..and don't know why most people are being negative..He has awesome Ideas and I would love to see these ideas come on to my console.

[Spidey 2007]

A mmoRpg is a role playing game..i wouldn't want to play a role playing batman game..and wouldn't there be I don't know 1,000,000 batman on screen. Anyway, I cant wait to hear more ideas from spidey..and don't know why most people are being negative..He has awesome Ideas and I would love to see these ideas come on to my console.

thank you thank you thank you!

so true about what you say MMORPG, a thousaaand batmen, lol. cant work. like i said.

thanks alot for the support Shadow, you and only a couple other people are supporting, everyone seems to want a free roaming batman game, ask any random bat-fan they would say "hell ya - fo sho" especially on the Gamefaqs boards(buncha morons) but they know what they want! Nobody just can really explain their ideas here and help :) but oh well, hopefully this will get rolling ...maybe, we will see though, thats for sure.

[TheShadow]

No Problem, Maybe so maybe so (wink)

[Mike]

Okay, the guy who said that it would take 5 years to make a Batman game this detailed, I got to call bull**** on. Ever heard of a game of GTA:SA? And that was for the PS2. Just imagine if they released it for the Xbox. A game with this much detail can be done on the next gen consoles, but with current graphics that are for the Xbox and Gamecube.

[TheShadow]

the detail of it dumb a$$ , first gta isnt a detailed game graphic wise. i mean come on la crimes beat the crap out of gta. and plus gta sa sucked ass

[Spidey 2007]

the detail of it dumb a$$ , first gta isnt a detailed game graphic wise. i mean come on la crimes beat the crap out of gta. and plus gta sa sucked ass


lmao.....yea. well, lets not talk about any other free raoming game, because This is Batman, He should be miles ahead of GTA or any other free roaming game, because you have alot to put in the game, what GTA has PLUS everything Batman, Gotham itslef, with extreme detail, weather physics, real lighting EFFECT...LIGHTING EFFECTS.....GTA had barely ANY if at all. Think Splinter Cell lighting at night in a ****ing gigantic gotham city. imagine Batman stories up, jumps off, light reflecting from the lit windows....much liek a train passing, he pops his cape, the light must reflect off the cloth and make it look like cloth, not like a liquid cape. you must be able to do theese things because SHADOWS AND STEALTH would be a MASSIVE PART OF THIS GAME....UNLIKE GTA...

now thats JUST the lighting department, not to mention everyone on the streets would have something to say to batman, and the streets would be filled with many models of characters, more so then GTA, you just see random people walking...in batman, bums will stay in alleys, suited people will fill the walks of the buisness area, and there just has to be MORE...with each petty crime you must have more. i dont know how to explain this ****, because knowing you morons you will compare it to "SPIDERMAN 2"....shut up, those graphics ****ing blew 61,505 inches of cock. moths need to move, there needs to be as much detail as any of the main characters, more models.... There will be a different path of Crimes, not liek the whole repeating crimes in Spiderman2, each crom should be non-linear in how you can approach it, that means more motion capture, or modeling for the citizens. There are many things you have to relize...i dont think it would take 5 YEARS, maybe 3 or 4 so they can get it the best possible, i mean, ill take 3 years if they cant fit all the detail in. I think i MAY have scratched the surface.....

whatever, as long as i have the essence of what batman is and what he embodies....Shadows, intimidation..Determination!.....Cave, Vehicles, Computer, Technology, weapons, strength, power, EVERYTHING IT MUST TAKE to fight for justice IN the run down streets of a gigantic gotham.....Everything there is....Relationships with Gordon....Trust...Responsibility.....**** Spiderman...Grand theft auto or any other game, this...if made will not be BEATEN....its not possible, mostly everyone...deep in there soul...wants to fight crime, for justice and protect their city, and this can be the chance they get.


Monet Money Money for you WB......

Hell id pay up to 300 dollars for JUST this game....

[GL1]

question...

Do you guys want to be able to just jump in and kick tail, or do you want stealth to be necessary to be successful? Having stealth in goes without saying, but do you want it to be important, or just something to do for those who want to take their time beating thugs?

I have a lot of ideas for a Batman game, but I just found the need "To be able to just jump in however I want" and the need to "have the game revolve around stealth and shadows" to be very very different...

[TheShadow]

Well, I would like it to be your choice at times. I mean the whole basis of batman is to use stealth and kick ass and it seems that ea. learned that.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think a cool feature would have to get back to Wayne Manor before the sun comes up. And have missions where you have time limits because you have to be somewhere else as Bruce Wayne. There would be so much to explore if Batman was free roam.

[TheShadow]

yeah that is another good idea! i like allthese ideas and redisnotblue i love u avatar

[Spidey 2007]

I think a cool feature would have to get back to Wayne Manor before the sun comes up. And have missions where you have time limits because you have to be somewhere else as Bruce Wayne. There would be so much to explore if Batman was free roam.


*sigh* Why must everyone restate my ideas and make them their own?

and ya, i never said you couldnt just jump in and kickass...i KEEP telling you people that you could do what you want, approach it the stealthy way or just jump in, i dont think ONE person on this board has read my posts at all.

[RedIsNotBlue]

*sigh* Why must everyone restate my ideas and make them their own?

and ya, i never said you couldnt just jump in and kickass...i KEEP telling you people that you could do what you want, approach it the stealthy way or just jump in, i dont think ONE person on this board has read my posts at all.

Nope. I haven't read this thread. I just stated some of the ideas from my head. I didn't steal them from you...we just share the same thoughts. Chill out.

[TheShadow]

CHILL OUT...chill...joe chill *SPazzes* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO jp jp yes this seems 2 be war..and u red..u are a copy cat..shame on u

[The Spider-Bat]

Spidey I LOVE YOUR IDEAS!

[TheShadow]

another supporter :)

[Spidey 2007]

Spidey I LOVE YOUR IDEAS!

i THANK you for ACTUALLY READING my posts, one of many, lol :up:

[The Batman]

Spidey's ideas are freaking sick.

Though I dont think Grappling around gotham would work. I say that, like in Batman begins, you can use Batman's cape to glide around

[GL1]

Well, I would like it to be your choice at times. I mean the whole basis of batman is to use stealth and kick ass and it seems that ea. learned that.

But I thought the complaint was that too often in the BB game you had to sltealth around and couldn't just jump in? But on the other hand, if you can just jump into every fight, then there's never any point in using stealth, right?

You're suggesting going back and forth? Sometimes you can jump in and sometimes you can't... and just finding the right balance that satisfies the most people (but not everybody...)?

Great ideas, I just wanted to point out that there are some game design principles may be being overlooked...

[Spidey 2007]

But I thought the complaint was that too often in the BB game you had to sltealth around and couldn't just jump in? But on the other hand, if you can just jump into every fight, then there's never any point in using stealth, right?

You're suggesting going back and forth? Sometimes you can jump in and sometimes you can't... and just finding the right balance that satisfies the most people (but not everybody...)?

Great ideas, I just wanted to point out that there are some game design principles may be being overlooked...

no wrong. I can point out why, but whats the ****igng use? im tired....

[RedIsNotBlue]

That is the whole point. You should have the choice to use stealth or jump in and fight. It should be a choice on what you do...not a certain thing you should do.

[The Batman]

Yeah. But maybe there should be an incentive...

Like, the more stealth you use, the more people are scared of you.

Anyone have an idea on how the combat would be done?

[spiderman water]

free roam:D

[TheBat812]

Yeah. But maybe there should be an incentive...

Like, the more stealth you use, the more people are scared of you.

Anyone have an idea on how the combat would be done?
the combat should be a mix of Splinter Cell and Batman Begins where he does acrobatic stuff but NEEDS TO USE STEALTH not only to scare, but also to not get shot. i think it'd be awsome if you could swing with your grapple as is seen in the movie and grab bad guys then beat them up somewhere else. Also, id like to see more of that grapple/drop thing but where you actually have to time it yourself, with there being a little box view looking down so you know when to do it, however, there cant be a thing that pops up tellin you to use the circle button cuz that's too easy. Also, no cutscene stealth stuff, all real time baby, and depending on how it's executed, more or less noise, so others become suspicious and such.

[TheShadow]

i'd rather it be a choice..and spider-man water wat a waste of post man..so any how i think if u choose to go in all guns out or scary it would be up to you and thats something i would like

[Spidey 2007]

the combat should be a mix of Splinter Cell and Batman Begins where he does acrobatic stuff but NEEDS TO USE STEALTH not only to scare, but also to not get shot. i think it'd be awsome if you could swing with your grapple as is seen in the movie and grab bad guys then beat them up somewhere else. Also, id like to see more of that grapple/drop thing but where you actually have to time it yourself, with there being a little box view looking down so you know when to do it, however, there cant be a thing that pops up tellin you to use the circle button cuz that's too easy. Also, no cutscene stealth stuff, all real time baby, and depending on how it's executed, more or less noise, so others become suspicious and such.


i extend my thanks out to you man, for actually having a constructive post :up:

[The Batman]

How about Boss battles?

should they have them, or should it be like Splinter Cell where there are no bosses?

[Spidey 2007]

How about Boss battles?

should they have them, or should it be like Splinter Cell where there are no bosses?

again....its up to you, if i were batman, hell yes, id beat the **** out of any major head...

but you use the term "boss-battle" as a video-game term.....that means nothing, this wouldnt be...oh the boss is all powerful. some arnt, some take a simple scare or punch to the face from Mr. Wayne. again, if you think the riddler is behind it, once you use all your clues, and truley think about this crime......go ahead, go after him, get some information, approach how you need. all i can say "the batman" is to use your head..i beg you, expand your thoughts more man. :up:

[TheShadow]

ah yes tru..though riddler should be the hardest to figure out..since he is the smartest out of the rouges.

[Spidey 2007]

ah yes tru..though riddler should be the hardest to figure out..since he is the smartest out of the rouges.

oh yes indeedy, now it wouldnt be an easy ass game now would it ;)

everyone lieks to complain how easy batman begins is...pssh, go face off with the riddler, se how easy it is to figure out his riddles and crimes!...man you WILL get that feeling of acomplishment once you put riddler in arkham, ill tell you that!

and by the way, that was just an off the top of my head example shadow ;)

[TheShadow]

:joker: perhaps you are truely smarter then the riddler

[Spidey 2007]

:joker: perhaps you are truely smarter then the riddler

hell, why not....if i go ahead and script his life in a game then i am ;) ;)

*wink* *wink* :up:

[TheShadow]

i couldnt go to bed and I have to agree on this. If you were to oh i dont know some how help ea, it would be a kick ass game.:up: :batman: :hq: :joker:

[Spidey 2007]

hey, mike...ya there? lol i just want to thank you for making such a thread and getting me all into the ideas....thanks man, more then youd ever know :up:

;) :joker: ;) :hq:
:batman: :cool:

[Comic Book Boy]

A freeroam Batman game would be perfect. Gotham is such a cool city! You should also be able to call upon the batmobile at ANY time....*drools*...

[Spidey 2007]

A freeroam Batman game would be perfect. Gotham is such a cool city! You should also be able to call upon the batmobile at ANY time....*drools*...

Try Batman and Robin...calling upon the batmobile at any time.....Drooled
:up:

[Zues4Life]

This game was awesome!I agree about the free roaming for the next game though.You should have a little device that you can use to bring the batmobile to you and you can just drive around and stop when you see a crime.And you should be able to use your cape to protect you from things like bullets and stuff like that like they did in the Batman Vengeance.

[TheShadow]

hey, mike...ya there? lol i just want to thank you for making such a thread and getting me all into the ideas....thanks man, more then youd ever know http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

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NO problem man http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif i think you are the one to be thanked for giving us hopehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/batman.gif

[TheBat812]

another thing is that teh glider/cape should actually make you glide, not like parachute u down. So you can actually go parallel to the ground, and have real wind physics so you can pick up thermals and stuff when you get good enough.

[The Spider-Bat]

Imagine this scene ( I'M ALREADY USING IT IN MY LAST LAUGH COMIC)

There's a huge drug deal in a tall skyscraper in Gotham. Batman stands above the skylight and sees the drugs being passed around. Then the player has a choice, drop down and beat the crap out of everyone, or something else. Batman uses the device in his boot to call the bats from Wayne Manor, in a minute the bats are here. Batman breaks the skylight and throws the device. The bats swirl around the room. Batman drops down and beats the thugs in the whirlwind of bats!

[David Ford, RPD]

Imagine this scene ( I'M ALREADY USING IT IN MY LAST LAUGH COMIC)

There's a huge drug deal in a tall skyscraper in Gotham. Batman stands above the skylight and sees the drugs being passed around. Then the player has a choice, drop down and beat the crap out of everyone, or something else. Batman uses the device in his boot to call the bats from Wayne Manor, in a minute the bats are here. Batman breaks the skylight and throws the device. The bats swirl around the room. Batman drops down and beats the thugs in the whirlwind of bats!

That's what I want in a sequel game...options. There should be at least three ways to deal with any situation. Just running in and beating up the guys should be one, but not well rewarded and usually too risky. Having the option (at any time) to call upon the Bats, the Tumbler, gliding, etc...that would be great.

[Spidey 2007]

well, id hate to tell you, but i dont think we will be dealing with another batman begins game until batman 2 comes out.

but for NOW we..........

[The Spider-Bat]

When I ment the bats, I meant like in Year One (that inspired the scene from Begins)

[Spidey 2007]

When I ment the bats, I meant like in Year One (that inspired the scene from Begins)


ah, good good....i was just assuming from the people that raom about here, you would be talking about another movie game....well then, i like you! :up:
:joker:

[The Spider-Bat]

I like you too. In a non-lesbian-way,

[TheShadow]

I heart everyone lol

[The Batman]

Ok, here are some of my ideas:

Combat: The way it was done in Batman begins was pretty good, but there was barely any variety. I say there should be three fighting styles you can choose from: Regular fighting style, which is basically some straightfoward streetfighting style mixed with Batman style fighting. The second style would be something like Akido or Kung Fu, and the third would be keysi or something. Each style would have a special move like in Batman Vengeance. also, Batman's movements shouldnt be cartoony.

Environments: Environments should be completely destructable. i didnt like it in Begins where you can only use certain objects to raise everyone's fear meter. you should be able to take out lights with your Batarang, windows, etc. There should be options of how you want to create fear.

Body Armor: What irks me about the BB game is, is that in the movie he's wearing body armor, but in the game he can get killed by like three bullets. Since Batman wears Kevlar in the comics, there should be a meter with how much armor you have. The more damage thats done to you, the more this meter goes down. when your armor meter's down, you're not protected from bullets.

Batmobile: IMO, I dont think it should be used that much while you're free roaming, only during the main story. The Batmobile system will work like Need For Speed and Burnout.

Grappling and Gliding: I dont think Grappling around the city will work. With Spider-man, he repeatedly shoots weblines. with Bats, he only has one grapple. Grapple's should be used like they were in BB, to get you to high buildings. The main mode of transportation around Gotham would be gliding, like in BB the movie.

[The Batman]

Bosses:In most games, especially comic ones, the hero usually has a boss battle. I dont think that can work with Batman. Most of Batman's villains cant engage him in hand to hand combat. The main challenge instead would be to solve the plot of the villain. Instead of fighting Joker, you have to stop his insane plot to gas gotham. With Penguin, you have to stop him from stealing some priceless bird. However, with some Villains like Bane, Killer Croc, or Ras Al Ghul, you'll engage them in combat.

Finding Trouble: Certain places in gotham will have a certain amount of trouble, as well as a different kind of trouble. Let's say if your in Uptown gotham, with all the rich folk, you'll see alot of robberies where thieves will be robbing some penthouse. If you're in Gotham's Financial district, where Wayne Enterprises will be, you'll see crimes such as coporate sabotage. If you go to gotham's waterfront, you'll find alot of snitches and mob bosses. Places like Park Row and the East End will have the highest amount of crime. Murder, Rape, Muggings, More Robberies, Hits, Dead bodies, etc. Also, while you're in park row and you're injured, you can find Dr. Thompkins, and she'll fix you up

Reputation: Throughout the game, you can increase your reputation. Unlike BB where you have to build it up again after a different level, you're rep stays with you the entire game. you dont have to do stealth, but it'll be hard to up your rep. You're is determined by how stealthy you are and the strategies you use while playing the game.

Gadgets: In this game, you'll have Batman's most popular Gadgets at you disposal. You can use the Batarang to knock things over, or to knock and enemy unconcious. Here's my list of gadgets for the game:

*Batarangs
*Smoke Grenades
*Flash Bangs
*Bat Bolas
*Night Vision Goggles
*Infared Vision
*Electrical Batarangs
*Razor Batarangs
*Bat Device(Used in Year One and BB, but its use will be limited)
*Grappling Hook
*Gas Pellets
*Flashlight
*Universal tool
*Mini Computer
*Optical Cable

[The Batman]

I even figured out a control system:

Triangle: Action/Multi Purpose

Square: Punch

Circle:Kick

X: Jumping/Gliding

L1: Gadget Select

L2: Initiate Gliding/Grappling

R1: Use Gadget

R2: Fighting Style Select/Blocking(Hold R2)

D-PAD Up/Down: Night Vision Goggles/Infrared

D-PAD Left/Right: Select Target/Objects

Select: Call Alfred/Summon Batmobile

L3: Enter/Exit Stealth mode

Right Control Stick: Camera Control

Left Control Stick: Move

Start: Pause Game/Access Pause Menu/View Mission Information, Notes and Controls

[The Spider-Bat]

Nice ideas Batman :D!!!!

[The Batman]

As for Costumes, you'll get to choose a number of outfits Batman's worn in the Comics:

Blue & Gray: http://myspace-530.vo.llnwd.net/00137/03/58/137638530_l.jpg

Black and Gray: http://artxilla.com/EdSite/batman.jpg

Blue and Gray W/ Black Bat: http://www.the-trades.com/hprice/Batman617.jpg

Dark Gray and Black W/ Oval: http://www.arkenyon.com/dc_6/batman.jpg

[The Sage]

There should be an option for customizing your costumes, something you unlock. And maybe something of the same for the Batmobile, similar to the Hush issue where there were dozens of vehicles.

What about the idea of Bruce Wayne training to gain more strength? Let's say after a mission he's injured, so while in the cave recuperating, he can lift weights, stretch and do cardio to build the strength back up. To make it even more exciting, you could have flashback sequences that help Bruce boost his power, such as thinking about when Kirigi, Ducard, Richard Dragon or even David Cain trained him. At the same time, we'd see cameos of these people which would be a great addition.

Someone had mentioned earlier about having Bruce Wayne during the day getting information. That would be cool. I was thinking maybe certain decisions he makes could lead to other parts of the game, such as social events, the women he chooses to date. And at social events, when he sees an enemy like Falcone, maybe a warning can go off in his head. Also, let's say in the beginning of the game, Batman can only grapple through his city. Like in Batman Begins, Bruce has to secure equipment and prototypes from Wayne Enterprises, like the memory fabric for the cape, and the cape cannot be used to glide through the city until you get it. Same could apply to gadgets such as night lenses.

Soundtrack: Danny Elfman, Shirley Walker, James Newton Howard, and Hans Zimmer. Basically a melding of the B89, TAS, and BB. The best of them all.

Then there's other ideas such as investigating as guys like Matches Malone, but those are just minor ideas. :joker:

[Zues4Life]

Nice ideas everyone!

[Spidey 2007]

ya for real dudes, this thread has gone uphill since i left it for the dogs :) :up:

ill consider most of your ideas The Batman...thanks!

[The Sage]

If this game doesn't get made, I'll get it done...seriously. :D

[RedIsNotBlue]

If this game doesn't get made, I'll get it done...seriously. :D

Put that avatar in the game and it will be perfection. :D

[The Sage]

Put that avatar in the game and it will be perfection. :D

LOL

[TheShadow]

the batman I'm really digging your ideas :) lmao and nice one above! ^

[The Sage]

I even figured out a control system:

Triangle: Action/Multi Purpose

Square: Punch

Circle:Kick

X: Jumping/Gliding

L1: Gadget Select

L2: Initiate Gliding/Grappling

R1: Use Gadget

R2: Fighting Style Select/Blocking(Hold R2)

D-PAD Up/Down: Night Vision Goggles/Infrared

D-PAD Left/Right: Select Target/Objects

Select: Call Alfred/Summon Batmobile

L3: Enter/Exit Stealth mode

Right Control Stick: Camera Control

Left Control Stick: Move

Start: Pause Game/Access Pause Menu/View Mission Information, Notes and Controls

Should there be a button to counter a move? That way it could look even more fluid that you counter one and hit a strike?

[The Spider-Bat]

One thing I would like is that you could play the entire Batman experience.

LEVELS
Bruce Wayne
The first levels should be Bruce's travel through the world, you have a chance to roam an entire country. What you do could impact the entire game. You could go to a retired thief and learn lockpicking, if you choose not to, you won't be able to acsess somethings in the game! You could learn all the types of martial arts which will let make you a more advanced fighter! The more you learn the more you will have options to do.



Gotham City

After training Bruce returns to Gotham. Everytime night Bruce goes out. Now the players get to take all the fighting techniques they know and put them to use. Imagine walking down an aley and seeing two guys raping a woman. You spring into action! If you had trained, the thugs will be no problem, but if you took the easy way out every fight will be hard. Now, one of the thugs pulls out a knife, if you had learned proper defence you will be able to dodge the knife. The player beats up the thugs and continues roaming through the dark streets of Gotham.



The Batman

After a while Bruce realizes he needs something more. Thus he becomes The Batman. You know have the option of using the rooftops! This opens a whole other world to the game. You can now use fear and swoop down on foes. Since this is the early Batman you will have few gadgets such as Batarangs, a grapple, and the bat calling device. You will also have the police on your tale. After a while you hear that a crazed maniac is trying to poison Gotham. You search for clues, interogate criminals etc. You eventually find the criminal mastermind The Joker is behind it all! You stop the criminal. This gets you a reputation. The cops like you, and the criminals fear you. You meet many criminals such as Catwoman, The Riddler, The Penguin and Mr. Freeze. Eventually you will build the Batmobile and unlock the option of driving to the crime sceene. You can aslo play through different classic stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween etc.

Dick Grayson
After fighting crime for a while players will see a cutscene of Dick's parents dying. Then the players will get a chance to train Dick however they choose to. Then Dick mounts the mantel and you get to play as both characters. You can switch through them anytime you want! Dick may not be as strong as Batman but is much more acrobatic. This will allow you to go to places you couldn't before. You will get to follow different stories and eventually Dick will quit and the player will be alone for now.

Jason Todd
After fighting crime alone for a few levels, players will follow the classic story: "A Death In The Familly". Players will have to play mostly as Jason Todd but will still be allowed to play as Batman. Eventually Jason will die and Batman will get stronger every time he fights The Joker.

Other Heroes
Eventually you will unlock other heroes such as Batgirl, Nightwing, Tim Drake and Huntress. You will get the chance to play as them but sometimes you wont. For example after you follow The Killing Joke story you won't be able to play as Batgirl.

Free Roam
Gotham is yours. You decide what happens. You decide who you control. You are in control.


GAMEPLAY


Story
You will get to play through the classic Batman stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween, Haunted Knight, A Death In The Familly, Hush etc. This will be the only way to unlock other characters and certain extras!

More Than One Path
There will always be more than one way to complete a level. For example when facing The Joker you can go ahead and beat him. You have a risk of getting shot or hit with his acid and he could escape. But what you could do is you take away his weapons using Batarangs, you sweep down on him and fight as he weakens.

Heroes

Robin (Dick Grayson)


Catwoman


Robin (Jason Todd)


Batgirl (Barbara Gordon


Nightwing


Robin (Tim Drake)


Huntress


Batgirl (Cassandra)
Villians

The Joker


Catwoman


Two-Face


The Penguin


Mad Hatter


The Riddler


Mr. Freeze


Poison Ivy


Bane


Mr. Zssaz


Scareface and The Ventriluquest


Ra's Al Ghul
Carmine Falcone

Hush





Scarecrow
Black Mask
Killer Crock
Holiday
The Batcave



You can always go to the batcave. There you will be healed by Alfred, you can look at criminal files to help you solve crimes, you can change costumes or The Batmobile.

Costumes
As you progress you will unlock different costumes! You can go to the batcave anytime and choose a costume.

The Batmobile
Each car will have certain disadvantages and advantages. For example, the 90's car is very fast and has a battering ram but isn't very defensive.

Stealth
Stealth will be very much like Splinter Cell. You will be able to sneak, peek behind doors and walls etc.

Fighting
What ever you learned in the begginig of the game will stay with you. If you learn a lot of defence you will be able to block a knife with your hands! If you learn a lot of Tae-Kwan-Do you will be able to deliver poweful kicks!

[The Batman]

Should there be a button to counter a move? That way it could look even more fluid that you counter one and hit a strike?

Hmm....i didnt think of that. Thats why i put the triangle button as multipurpose as well....

[The Sage]

Hmm....i didnt think of that. Thats why i put the triangle button as multipurpose as well....

Ah. So it could work as a counter button or grab maybe?

[The Batman]

Yeah, like in Begins with the Circle button

[TheShadow]

cool

[Zues4Life]

One thing I would like is that you could play the entire Batman experience.

LEVELS
Bruce Wayne
The first levels should be Bruce's travel through the world, you have a chance to roam an entire country. What you do could impact the entire game. You could go to a retired thief and learn lockpicking, if you choose not to, you won't be able to acsess somethings in the game! You could learn all the types of martial arts which will let make you a more advanced fighter! The more you learn the more you will have options to do.



Gotham City

After training Bruce returns to Gotham. Everytime night Bruce goes out. Now the players get to take all the fighting techniques they know and put them to use. Imagine walking down an aley and seeing two guys raping a woman. You spring into action! If you had trained, the thugs will be no problem, but if you took the easy way out every fight will be hard. Now, one of the thugs pulls out a knife, if you had learned proper defence you will be able to dodge the knife. The player beats up the thugs and continues roaming through the dark streets of Gotham.



The Batman

After a while Bruce realizes he needs something more. Thus he becomes The Batman. You know have the option of using the rooftops! This opens a whole other world to the game. You can now use fear and swoop down on foes. Since this is the early Batman you will have few gadgets such as Batarangs, a grapple, and the bat calling device. You will also have the police on your tale. After a while you hear that a crazed maniac is trying to poison Gotham. You search for clues, interogate criminals etc. You eventually find the criminal mastermind The Joker is behind it all! You stop the criminal. This gets you a reputation. The cops like you, and the criminals fear you. You meet many criminals such as Catwoman, The Riddler, The Penguin and Mr. Freeze. Eventually you will build the Batmobile and unlock the option of driving to the crime sceene. You can aslo play through different classic stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween etc.

Dick Grayson
After fighting crime for a while players will see a cutscene of Dick's parents dying. Then the players will get a chance to train Dick however they choose to. Then Dick mounts the mantel and you get to play as both characters. You can switch through them anytime you want! Dick may not be as strong as Batman but is much more acrobatic. This will allow you to go to places you couldn't before. You will get to follow different stories and eventually Dick will quit and the player will be alone for now.

Jason Todd
After fighting crime alone for a few levels, players will follow the classic story: "A Death In The Familly". Players will have to play mostly as Jason Todd but will still be allowed to play as Batman. Eventually Jason will die and Batman will get stronger every time he fights The Joker.

Other Heroes
Eventually you will unlock other heroes such as Batgirl, Nightwing, Tim Drake and Huntress. You will get the chance to play as them but sometimes you wont. For example after you follow The Killing Joke story you won't be able to play as Batgirl.

Free Roam
Gotham is yours. You decide what happens. You decide who you control. You are in control.


GAMEPLAY


Story
You will get to play through the classic Batman stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween, Haunted Knight, A Death In The Familly, Hush etc. This will be the only way to unlock other characters and certain extras!

More Than One Path
There will always be more than one way to complete a level. For example when facing The Joker you can go ahead and beat him. You have a risk of getting shot or hit with his acid and he could escape. But what you could do is you take away his weapons using Batarangs, you sweep down on him and fight as he weakens.

Heroes

Robin (Dick Grayson)


Catwoman


Robin (Jason Todd)


Batgirl (Barbara Gordon


Nightwing


Robin (Tim Drake)


Huntress


Batgirl (Cassandra)
Villians

The Joker


Catwoman


Two-Face


The Penguin


Mad Hatter


The Riddler


Mr. Freeze


Poison Ivy


Bane


Mr. Zssaz


Scareface and The Ventriluquest


Ra's Al Ghul
Carmine Falcone

Hush





Scarecrow
Black Mask
Killer Crock
Holiday
The Batcave



You can always go to the batcave. There you will be healed by Alfred, you can look at criminal files to help you solve crimes, you can change costumes or The Batmobile.

Costumes
As you progress you will unlock different costumes! You can go to the batcave anytime and choose a costume.

The Batmobile
Each car will have certain disadvantages and advantages. For example, the 90's car is very fast and has a battering ram but isn't very defensive.

Stealth
Stealth will be very much like Splinter Cell. You will be able to sneak, peek behind doors and walls etc.

Fighting
What ever you learned in the begginig of the game will stay with you. If you learn a lot of defence you will be able to block a knife with your hands! If you learn a lot of Tae-Kwan-Do you will be able to deliver poweful kicks!




Sounds like a Batman game I'd buy for sure.

[The Spider-Bat]

Good good. It is currently in production. j/k

[Spidey 2007]

Good good. It is currently in production. j/k


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[TheShadow]

mwhahahahahahahahah good good good *crosses fingers* *inside joke to me and spidey*

[Spidey 2007]

mwhahahahahahahahah good good good *crosses fingers* *inside joke to me and spidey*


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[The Batman]

Storyline/Continuity: The game would be based on the comics...per se. It would have the look of the comics, but not follow the current comics down to the tee. In fact, I'd say my idea is more "Batman the icon" than "Batman in the comics today". My game would have Dick Grayson as Robin, Babs as Batgirl, and thats it. IMO, all those sidekicks are repetitive, not to mention annoying. The General Public who are the main buyers of the game should have the continuity as streamlined as possible. The Storyline would drive most of the gameplay. You'll have missions and villains you'll have to face. The main characters in the story would be Batman, Robin, Commissioner Gordon, etc. and the major baddies(Joker, Ras, Catwoman, Riddler). I think they should get some comic writers (Greg Rucka, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns,etc) to create the game universe

Guest Stars: What if for one mission, you find yourself teaming with Green Arrow? How about going to Question to investigate something? I also had this one story idea where Batman leaves to investigate something and you have to team up with Black Canary while you're playing Robin.

[Spidey 2007]

okay , you can stop now "the batman"

"Thatll do pig....thatll do"

:up: :up: :up:

[Spidey 2007]

lol, why must everyone post NOW, WTF i say, ...go on about your lives and talk about how bad superman 64 was.....

[krizzzle]

One thing I would like is that you could play the entire Batman experience.

LEVELS
Bruce Wayne
The first levels should be Bruce's travel through the world, you have a chance to roam an entire country. What you do could impact the entire game. You could go to a retired thief and learn lockpicking, if you choose not to, you won't be able to acsess somethings in the game! You could learn all the types of martial arts which will let make you a more advanced fighter! The more you learn the more you will have options to do.



Gotham City

After training Bruce returns to Gotham. Everytime night Bruce goes out. Now the players get to take all the fighting techniques they know and put them to use. Imagine walking down an aley and seeing two guys raping a woman. You spring into action! If you had trained, the thugs will be no problem, but if you took the easy way out every fight will be hard. Now, one of the thugs pulls out a knife, if you had learned proper defence you will be able to dodge the knife. The player beats up the thugs and continues roaming through the dark streets of Gotham.



The Batman

After a while Bruce realizes he needs something more. Thus he becomes The Batman. You know have the option of using the rooftops! This opens a whole other world to the game. You can now use fear and swoop down on foes. Since this is the early Batman you will have few gadgets such as Batarangs, a grapple, and the bat calling device. You will also have the police on your tale. After a while you hear that a crazed maniac is trying to poison Gotham. You search for clues, interogate criminals etc. You eventually find the criminal mastermind The Joker is behind it all! You stop the criminal. This gets you a reputation. The cops like you, and the criminals fear you. You meet many criminals such as Catwoman, The Riddler, The Penguin and Mr. Freeze. Eventually you will build the Batmobile and unlock the option of driving to the crime sceene. You can aslo play through different classic stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween etc.

Dick Grayson
After fighting crime for a while players will see a cutscene of Dick's parents dying. Then the players will get a chance to train Dick however they choose to. Then Dick mounts the mantel and you get to play as both characters. You can switch through them anytime you want! Dick may not be as strong as Batman but is much more acrobatic. This will allow you to go to places you couldn't before. You will get to follow different stories and eventually Dick will quit and the player will be alone for now.

Jason Todd
After fighting crime alone for a few levels, players will follow the classic story: "A Death In The Familly". Players will have to play mostly as Jason Todd but will still be allowed to play as Batman. Eventually Jason will die and Batman will get stronger every time he fights The Joker.

Other Heroes
Eventually you will unlock other heroes such as Batgirl, Nightwing, Tim Drake and Huntress. You will get the chance to play as them but sometimes you wont. For example after you follow The Killing Joke story you won't be able to play as Batgirl.

Free Roam
Gotham is yours. You decide what happens. You decide who you control. You are in control.


GAMEPLAY


Story
You will get to play through the classic Batman stories such as Year One, The Long Halloween, Haunted Knight, A Death In The Familly, Hush etc. This will be the only way to unlock other characters and certain extras!

More Than One Path
There will always be more than one way to complete a level. For example when facing The Joker you can go ahead and beat him. You have a risk of getting shot or hit with his acid and he could escape. But what you could do is you take away his weapons using Batarangs, you sweep down on him and fight as he weakens.

Heroes

Robin (Dick Grayson)


Catwoman


Robin (Jason Todd)


Batgirl (Barbara Gordon


Nightwing


Robin (Tim Drake)


Huntress


Batgirl (Cassandra)
Villians

The Joker


Catwoman


Two-Face


The Penguin


Mad Hatter


The Riddler


Mr. Freeze


Poison Ivy


Bane


Mr. Zssaz


Scareface and The Ventriluquest


Ra's Al Ghul
Carmine Falcone

Hush





Scarecrow
Black Mask
Killer Crock
Holiday
The Batcave



You can always go to the batcave. There you will be healed by Alfred, you can look at criminal files to help you solve crimes, you can change costumes or The Batmobile.

Costumes
As you progress you will unlock different costumes! You can go to the batcave anytime and choose a costume.

The Batmobile
Each car will have certain disadvantages and advantages. For example, the 90's car is very fast and has a battering ram but isn't very defensive.

Stealth
Stealth will be very much like Splinter Cell. You will be able to sneak, peek behind doors and walls etc.

Fighting
What ever you learned in the begginig of the game will stay with you. If you learn a lot of defence you will be able to block a knife with your hands! If you learn a lot of Tae-Kwan-Do you will be able to deliver poweful kicks!

Are you joking me dude? this is complete utter crap. My neighbors 8 year old retarded son can think of better ideas then this. "Go to the batcave and get healed by Alfred" if you " learn tae-kawn-do your kicks are more powerful ". This crap is pure gayness. Only an 11 year old dumb-ass who has been oppressed by living under a queer dad and a dime a screw mother would think of such ideas like these.



P.S

You guy need to read Spidey 2007's post's. They are long but they got some serious substance. I would not be surprised if that kid gets a job in the gaming biz. His ideas are awesome.

[TheShadow]

thats kinda harsh now isnt it?

[GL1]

Are you joking me dude? this is complete utter crap. My neighbors 8 year old retarded son can think of better ideas then this. "Go to the batcave and get healed by Alfred" if you " learn tae-kawn-do your kicks are more powerful ". This crap is pure gayness. Only an 11 year old dumb-ass who has been oppressed by living under a queer dad and a dime a screw mother would think of such ideas like these.

Way uncool. Way.

[GL1]

My Batman game would center on three experiences:

Combat
With a fighting system more akin to a fighting game than an action one, with a handy lock on mechanism, you have access to a plethora of great moves as well as a plethora of free-form on the fly group oriented combos as you leap into large rooms full of unlucky evildoers and open large cans of whoopage. Of course, thugs come in all shapes and sizes, and you'll never know when someone might pull out a gun, or a crowbar, or some kung fu... all crowbar weilders don't wear the same jacket, that's for sure...

Detective Work
This is where RPG aspects would come in... while each "case" (think levels, but free roam around all of gotham city) would have a beat-em up combat path to win, it would also have a detective work path to open up the 'final conflict.' Batman when pressing the black button the x-box, or perhaps L2 on the PS2, would go into detective mode... from here he would have access to various intimidation "attacks" and an action button used to sample clues, open/investigate/examine items of interest and a talk button with branching (multiple choice) conversations for parlaying with police, victims, commisioner gordon, etc, etc... and of course, a Bat-Journal for keeping track of your clues, evidence and implications... complete with detective-show like flashbackish "visions" of how the crime could have occured as you put things together...

Stealth and Atmosphere
Batman is all about his environment... he's all about stealth, and even though players want that to be a big deal, most DON'T want it to interfere with them treating Batman like a brawler... which is fine and doable... make the highways dark... the obvious and most easy paths through Gotham (for Bats anyway) are dark alleys and rooftops, easily traversed... the bright populated areas of gotham cut off by good game design, though still visitable, especially later... Give players points and "XPee" for fading away without sight after a conversation, or taking out 9 thugs without being seen and then appearing before the tenth one... make it a big deal, without making it a burden... allow the player Splinter-Cell like Stealth ways to complete missions within a case as well, flicking switches, taking advantage of the environment, and otherwise not having to lay a finger on anyone and switching the final fight in your favor... (or at least onto even footing)...

this gives the player THREE ways to play the game... using one will be fun, but using them all at once brings the most success and bonuses for getting all the bonus objectives...

Sub-Games (The details that take it from being a great game to being a classic experience)

Bruce Wayne -- By taking the batpole upwards you access some Bruce Wayne gameplay... parties, dates and business. Though these might seem like minigames (which are not uncommon nowadays)... business serves as a way to get new equipment for your character, parties serve as a way to get top-down information on what's happening all over gotham and dates, well... they're just fun...

Driving -- Top notch. Realistic Physics, trick out your handling, acceleration and top speed, several 'tracks' and 'obstacle courses' are cleverly built into the city and are used for chase sequences at certain parts of the game, regardless, the Vehicle can be used at any time, it's just that driving it on the street attracts police attention... the vehicle has a stealth mode of course... Brucey can also drive the rolls royce around the city...

Prep-Time
No Batman game is complete without it... Prep-time is really a fusion of the options screen with the detective game as 'fuel' but as you develop info on your perp or the people you are going to assail, you'll get suggestions on what to equip against them in the bat-belt and tumbler loading screens. Furthermore, as you press on against each unstoppable clayface (each one possesing less weakness and more power than the one before it, well, all except the dud...) you begin to master the system which Batman uses to take out people like Bane, Superman and his writers... Prop time also includes a preview fight mode with dream-sequence borders as you test out your combat tactic 'in your mind' before you leave the cave with your items...

Storyline -- This will be THE Ultimate Joker story. The game will be titled the same as the movie sequel to Batman Begins... and like most videogames it will adopt the tale of the movie, but this game will add in levels and storyline based on the comics... The Killing Joke, Mad Love, The Man Whole Laughs (that the one with the fish, right?), A Joker Christmas, Dark Victory, The Long Halloween, ALL of these will be taken into account in this story. The Joker will play a huge part. Harvey Dent and later Two Face will play a huge part. Falcone. Even little Grayson and Barb Gordon will make meaningful appearances, not to mention tension with Lucious Fox, the death of Gordon's wife, Alfred's great lines and some believable closure with Rachel. As added features, the stories of all SIX Clayfaces will make appearance as you follow the growth of this ugly disease-like condition through the livse of six different individuals... just when you thought the case was closed... it'll open again. And remember, each case is not only a slugfest of locations to discover, but a network of people to investigate and a world of darkness to explore.

Also, when you take out the Joker "once and for all," giving closure to the storyline and game, you still get to keep playing, dealing with re-emersions of Two-Face, Clayfaces, Charaxes, Scarecrow

Training -- This is one of the things that makes the game magic... on top of the sixty hour storyline sprawling above, there are twelve, no less than twelve mini storylines to be played out, each coorresponding to a different type of gameplay Batman does. Six storylines are part of the extensive training mode. Six are secrets that you unlock as you play the game.

Combat-- A training storyline with World Champion Pugilist Ted Grant, in which young Bruce Wayne has a fight and a fling with fellow tutee Dinah Lance. Another, openable, hidden storyline has Bruce Wayne teaming up with Green Arrow in a special multiplayer free-roam adventure against a would-be-gangster called Black Mask and his army of goons.
Detective -- The training storyline has a young bruce wayne in Chicago under the tutelage of not-yet-replaced-by-a-martian detective John Jones in a case worthy of a classic novel that ends in John's death. The other "secret" detective story introduces the "Oracle," a young Barbara Gordon, solving cases with a lot of electronic networking and coorespondence with a certain broody bat as they discover what's up with Charaxes.
Stealth/Travel -- The training storyline has a young Bruce Wayne taught the beauty of the circus, and the art of free running by young couple John and Mary Grayson, while another storyline has young Rich Grayson donning a red vest over his black gear in order to take out Zucco "once and for all"
Bruce Wayne -- The first storyline has a childhood bruce wayne navigating old gotham alongside buddies Tommy Elliot and Harvey Dent while another has Bruce Wayne matching social wits with the smitten big name actress Silver St. Cloud and business sense with the dispicable mogul Lex Luthor.
Driving -- The training session involves a go with the wonderful Roxanne "Rocket" Rodriquez while the "secret" storyline involves you solving a case that makes use of a high-tech boat... yes, it's painted black...
Prep Time -- The training session is a flashback to Ra's temple atop the mountain as you learn to face augmented animals of death, superior combatants like Sandra "Lady Shiva" Woosan and eventually your predecessor (as leader of "these men"), the man who becomes Ra's after Watanabe dies... The secret unlockable quest is when Bane comes to town, and not only is he practically invulnerable on this scale, but he can out prep-time you if you're not careful.

Other Modes
While the main game and training can be fun, adding a few more modes of gameplay can REALLY crank up the replay value...
Versus -- I would be remiss otherwise... but the lock on feature gives you two attacks, a special and a block button. That's a fighting game, ladies and gents and you can squab it out as Batman, Joker, Two Face, Clayfaces, Ted "Wildcat" Grant, Dinah "Black Canary" Lance, Oliver "Green Arrow" Queen, Ra's Al Ghul and Lady Shiva.
Racing -- Again, how could we pass up testing the Tumbler against Bruce's Rolls, or his Ferrari? What about Joker's tricked out trumped up mustang? A gotham special unit Squad Car? And as secrets, Barbara's dirt bike on nitro and Harvey Dent's Beemer...
Time Attack --Take out the most bad guys in x amount of time? With infinite batarangs? Without being seen? Various mode exist here...

Multiplayer
I love it too much to leave it out... secret characters abound... split screen, network your boxes, whatever, it's all for the love of Batman... but none of the characters can outshine Batman, but on the contrary, it takes three others to make up what Bats does, and in a four-player co-op game, you have three classed chars and one multiclass character... which still works in a way...
Barbara -- Can be a detective just as good as Batman, though with weaker 'intimidation' levels... she gathers clues and info, just like batty... very limited fighting...
Grayson -- Can be a stealth and acrobat just as good as Batman, though he lacks the ability to 'fly' he does glide well... very limited fighting...
Green Arrow -- Once opened can be used again and again, at any time... very good at fighting and possesses a large amount of varied 'items' as arrows/ranged attacks, is not much of a detective and not much of a stealther


(I just realized how long this is)

Extras and Rewards
While cutscenes used to cut it... that's CLEARLY not enough anymore... people want some nostalgia, right?
Cars -- An old man sells antique and concept cars, many of which are actually old TV, comic and movie versions of Batmobiles in the years gone by... all can be purchased and driven for a sufficient amount of money/mission completions/whatever.
Costumes -- A costumer sells holloween costumes for this 'batman' character, all of which resemble the comics, movie and TV costumes of days gone by...
Suveniers (sp?)-- Not only can the above be displayed in the cave, but each case brings 1-3 special items to be displayed in the cave, depending on how it was completed... the museum area of the cave can be viewed in first person mode as you walk around the cave, and each solved case has an equipable item for your belt or car (combat solution), a large cavescape changing item (detective), and more free-running moves (stealth solution) from unique areas in the game... of course, each case can be solved all three ways at a time... and no matter how you defeat it, each case brings new comic covers and stuff onto the 'batcomputer'

Um... I think that's about it...

Yeah... I really can't think of any other way to make a Batman game better... all of you guys have great ideas tho...


Oh... I know!

The Ultimate Unlockable
If you are just fool enough to get 100% on this game... which should take you well over 100 hours between all the missions, side missions, versus games, time attack completions and special encounters (Dr. Leslie Thompkins, Duela Dent, Lex Luthor, you get to play as the Joker. Back from his 'demise' at the hands of Batman, the man with a multiple choice origin steps onto the scene under player control.

Free roam, with loads of crazy items and toys at his disposal, his own multiple choice of hideouts, a 'prep time' screen that allows him to send out and organize his thugs... instead of interrogating crooks, he recruits them... instead of a bruce wayne life he has an (optional) Harley Quinn "pet" character and once he hits the streets, he has the chance to slay everything that moves as they scream... and a laugh button, which does the same thing for Joker what striking from the shadows does for Bats... instant fear.

From here, players can play multiplayer free roam competitive games... or go solo with the Joker. This also opens up all-combat Clayface fusion, minion focused Two Face and sneaky little vixen Harley Quinn for four on four free-roam chaos matches!!! Or just take on the police and, as you follow an all new Joker storyline as he discovers his past... or various versions of it... and not even Batman can stand in the way of his crazed path of death... Of course you slowly unlock peices of FMV mixed up as you hit different checkpoint-kills, but escaping Batman, even the computer controlled one is very difficult, and it gets harder and harder to escape his clutches, and if you are caught, you lose all your progress, and it puts you at the beginning of the Joker storyline...

If you manage to make it through this 3-6 hours of gameplay without being beaten by Batman, then you find out your origin (soon to be revealed in the comix) and kill Batman... only to find yourself in the asylum, the storyline being entirely in your mind... or not... cuz Batman has a cut you remember giving him... doesn't matter... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[The Spider-Bat]

Where can I buy it?

[TheShadow]

In your dreams :)

[The Spider-Bat]

In your dreams :)

What?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[TheShadow]

Lmao :d

[The Spider-Bat]

That is how I feel! GL1's game DAMMIT!

[TheShadow]

I have a good feeling that the next batman game will be free roam. Though I know since the superman fans feel that "Superman Returns" Movie game will be all free roam. I highly doubt that, I have a strong feeling that it wont be.
I think some people *not all people* don't know that every developer likes to test
The water when they put a game on the market *in this case EA's Batman Begins*.
They all have to get used to the tone of the game. The Batman Begins game was working of a script *the one that was leaked* The only visual reference they had to work off of was some of the concepts and mainly the Unfinished Batman costume at the time of early development. But my whole point is that EA. was testing the waters, seeing if they were going in the right direction with things. I'm sure of it and I know are looking at fan's reactions of the game. I'm also sure they will be looking out for what they want in the sequel game. :)

[Winking Samurai]

I think to expect something as ambitious as free-roaming from EA is unrealistic.

Look at Spider-Man. The first movie-based game was linear, just like Batman Begins. But with a major overhaul and a lot of ambition, Treyarch made Spider-Man 2, a great free-roam game with a solid idea in place: explore New York to your heart's content. Unfortunately, the game was a bit shallow since so much time was dedicated to perfecting web-slinging and the cityscape. This flaw will be rectified in the new Treyarch game Ultimate Spider-Man.

See? It took Treyarch three games to perfect their ideas. I see the same thing happening with Batman. Yeah, it would have been nice to have Batman Begins be free-roam, but it was never really an option. You have to understand, movie-based games have to be released alongside the release of the movie, which leads to an aggressive developing schedule. That doesn't leave much time for experimentation. Hopefully EA will release a new Batman game with free-roam, either based on the comic (a la Ultimate Spider-Man) or based on the inevitable movie sequel.

[-Fire-Fly-]

I want a copy when it comes out!

[Zues4Life]

I can't wait until the second Batman game made by EA comes out!!If they are planning on making another one.

In the meantime,I'm getting the Batman Begins video game for my birthday which is 3 months,139 days and approximately 3,058 hours from now.

[Zues4Life]

I can't wait to see what EA is cooking up for the next Batman game!!

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Want free-roam?

Tell them yourself by taking that survey on EA games.com

I figure IF enough people WANT free-roam.....it could happen.

[Winking Samurai]

Just read the newest Nintendo Power and it had an article on free roam games. Apparently the developer slang word for it is a "sandbox" game.

Just thought you'd like to know.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Makes sense......I mean, even when it's free-roam...it's still contained. Comparing it to a sandbox makes sense.

I sure hope Superman gets a "sandbox" game.....he totally needs it.

[muhammady]

My other name Zues4Life got banned and this is my original name.I still think that the BB game was better than the Spiderman 2 game even though it didn't have free roaming.

[Timstuff]

A free-roaming Batman game, if done right would be a true GTA killer. EA should start as soon as possible to allow for a plentiful developement time.

And one of the locations should be Wayne Manor and the Batcave! You should be able to explore the grounds at your leasure, and it should be perfectly re-created from the actual building's blue-prints. It would be sweet.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Dude, you should write them that in the survey......let them know.

[Timstuff]

I haven't actually gotten to play the BB game yet. Maybe I should rent it sometime.

[Spidey 2007]

A free-roaming Batman game, if done right would be a true GTA killer. EA should start as soon as possible to allow for a plentiful developement time.

And one of the locations should be Wayne Manor and the Batcave! You should be able to explore the grounds at your leasure, and it should be perfectly re-created from the actual building's blue-prints. It would be sweet.


*sigh* wtf

[RedIsNotBlue]

*sigh* wtf

What the hell is your problem?

[Spidey 2007]

What the hell is your problem?

the whole idea of a good batman game, he doesnt need one BLEH, and your not getting one sorry..

[The Riddler]

i want a good game based on the comic featuring the riddler, joker, two-face, clayface, scarface and mr. freeze as villains! :mad:

i'd like a cel shaded batman game.

i love cel shaded graphics. :D

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, we already got a good Batman game.....so much for "not getting" one.......

[Mike]

Batman Begins was boring and very linear.

[Spidey 2007]

Batman Begins was boring and very linear.

he wasnt talking about that one.....

[David Ford, RPD]

Batman Begins was boring and very linear.

With the PS2 graphics holding everyone back, I'd rather see a linear Batman game with stunning graphics than a free-roam game with vomit-inducing graphics. Now BB2 on the other hand...

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Spidey 2007, Just b/c you didn't like Batman Begins (I wonder why.....???) doesn't mean it wasn't a good game.

Have we had a Great Batman game? No.

But, Batman Vengence.....Batman Begins....The Adventures of Batman and Robin, and even Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu were all GOOD games. Not great, but all GOOD.

Jeez, talk about being humble.

[Spidey 2007]

Spidey 2007, Just b/c you didn't like Batman Begins (I wonder why.....???) doesn't mean it wasn't a good game.

Have we had a Great Batman game? No.

But, Batman Vengence.....Batman Begins....The Adventures of Batman and Robin, and even Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu were all GOOD games. Not great, but all GOOD.

Jeez, talk about being humble.

lol, i loved Batman begins.

but your forgetting Batman & Robin for PS1, which literally started this whole thread.
wonder if i can actually bump this...
Better late than never eh?


EDIT: holy ****... it worked, lol.

go read page 1 and 2 newbs, lol