New Season 5 Spoilers!

[Flash48]

Hey we have some new spoilers about what happens on the first episode of the 5th season from krpytonsite.




Episode #5-1: "Arrival"Tentative Air Date: Sept. 22




Guest Stars: Erica Durance (Lois)


Added 6/24/05: Some spoilers have now leaked! Here's some stuff:

Teaser:
- Out of the ship that Lana finds come what seem to be two Kryptonians - Nam-Ek, a "beautifully built black man," and a blond female named Aethyr. Sounds like they're naked, as all Kryptonians are when Smallville seasons begin. So much for that "suit that Clark was going to wear in Superman Returns" rumor, eh?
- Aethyr superspeeds in front of Lana. Lana notices a Kryptonian symbol on the small of Aethyr's back that is identical in look and placement to the one that Lana had on her back in Season 4.
- Lana asks the strangers who they are and where they're from. A military chopper approaches, and Aethyr sends it spiraling out of control, thanks to a burst of heat vision. Then, Nam-Ek uses his heat vision power to completely incinerate the chopper. Twenty armed soldiers approach in Humvees, and bullets bounce right off of the two strange visitors. They then incinerate all of their attackers with their heat vision.
- A Humvee charges full throttle at Aethyr, who grabs it by the bumper and flips the vehicle into the air. After all this commotion, Aethyr asks Nam-Ek where the girl has gone to. &quotShe's of no use,&quot he says. &quotWe must find Kal-El.&quot Lana hides and crouches in the bushes as all this is going on. End of teaser....

A few minutes later:
- Lex comes up from the rubble inside of the cave. His hand is bruised. He walks into the cave's inner chamber, and finds Chloe's cell phone laying on the ground. Lex spots the altar, where the octagonal key is resting. He examines the octagonal key, and hears a &quotYou!&quot from behind. It's Nam-Ek and Aethyr, wearing fatigues stolen from the military people. Lex thinks they're really soldiers, and tells them that everything is under control, and that they're probably needed elsewhere. Nam-Ek asks Lex where Kal-El is. &quotWho?&quot Lex asks. &quotHe possesses the octagonal key,&quot Aethyr says, and in doing something that sounds like the Force in Star Wars, Nam-Ek lifts his hand and the key rockets into his palm. They ask Lex if he is Kal-El. &quotWho wants to know?&quot Lex asks. Aethyr grabs Lex by the throat and digs her nails into his skin. &quotKal-El would not bleed,&quot she says.

And then....
- We see the Arctic tundra, and there's a human figure laying face down in the ice. It's Chloe.

Meanwhile, at the hospital...
- Lois visits the Kents to make sure they're all right. She makes a comment about how they let her have a home before, so the least she could do is to help out when it came crashing down. The Kents smile, and then a shattering explosion shakes the walls. In the corridor are Nam-Ek and Aethyr. &quotTell us where Kal-El is, or suffer the fate of your brethren," they warn. The sheriff fires his gun at them and the bullets fly off. (The script says his, but hey, isn't Nancy a she?) Lois watches in disbelief. Nam-Ek approaches Jonathan. "Where is Kal-El?" Aethyr demands that they are taken to him, that Jonathan would know where he is. Jonathan is shocked to hear someone saying Clark's Kryptonian name.
- Aethyr reaches for Jonathan, when Lois intervenes. &quotI know where Kal-El is!&quot She tells them that Kal-El is at Fort Ryan and is waiting for them. &quotI'll take you to him right now. But you have to promise to behave yourselves. That means no blowing stuff up. Got it?&quot Lois asks. Nam-Ek and Aethyr each take Lois by an arm. Lois grins, trying to cover her fear.

[The Sage]

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/spoilers.htm

Season 5 picks up immediately where we left off at the close of “Commencement.”

Two near-naked figures step out of the Black Ship. Apparently they are two evil Kryptonians - Nam-Ek, a powerfully, built black man and Aethyr, a blond woman who wears a steel bracelet. Both are in their 20’s.

Lana tells the both of them she means no harm, but they advance towards her. Lana tries to run with her wounded leg, but Aethyr super speeds in front of her and reveals a Kryptonian Symbol tattooed on the small of her back (exactly where Lana was marked with her tattoo).

The Duo realizes that the yellow Sun gives them amazing abilities and they both surround Lana. Military helicopters then descend from the skies and four military humvees head toward them. Lana uses the distraction to make her escape.

The two Kryptonians proceed to destroy the helicopters and humvees. Lana is crouching in the bushes as Nam-Ek states, ”We must find Kal-El.”

Lex is revealed to be trapped in the destroyed caves. Chloe has disappeared. Lex encounters the two aliens in the caves. They think he is Kal-El, because he has the Octagonal Key. Lex had taken the key out of the Altar slot. Nam-Ek calls the Key to him and destroys it in his bare hands. He then grabs Lex and flings him against the wall. Aethyr digs her nails into his skin and blood seeps out of the puncture. They know he’s not Kal-El cause he’s bleeding.

Chloe is lying face down on ice in the Artic Tundra.

The Kents are in the hospital following the meteor crashing thru their house. Lois offers to help them get the house back in order. Just then the aliens show up and begin to destroy the hospital and killing people. They state that they will kill more humans unless Kal-El is brought to them. Lois tells them she knows where Kal-El is hiding. She brings them out to Fort Ryan (military base).

Lana is asleep on the couch in the Luthor mansion when coarse scratching sounds awaken her. She encounters Lionel scratching the same Kryptonian symbol that she saw on the Aliens into the floor with an ice pick.

Lois and the Aliens are at Fort Ryan. They grow tired of her conversations. Then she fires a rocket launcher at them while saying “Best thing about growing up on a military base? Things that go boom.” Aethyr and Nam-Ek walk out of the inferno unscathed. Lois says “Whoops.”

Lois tries to get away by telling them it was a joke or something. They grab her throat.

The next scene is Clark at the hospital with his parents. Mr. Kent has finished telling him about the Aliens and that they are looking for Kal-El. Clark reacts surprised and grows angry, “I’ll make it easy for them. Where are they?”

Clark encounters the Aliens at Fort Ryan. They tell him they are not his enemies and mean him no harm. Nam-Ek tell Clark that they are the last Survivors of Krypton and that together with Kal-El they plan to bring the utopia that their forefathers envisioned to Earth.

Clark tells them what they did at the hospital is murder, not utopia. Clark rejects them and Aethyr removes her metal bracelet.

The Bracelet mushrooms into a Vortex. The Aliens tell Clark they can put him where he won’t be able to stop them.

Clark puts what he learned at the Fortress to use and musters all his strength to break free.

[Grand Sophy]

Wow. Action packed. Wish I could stay away from spoilers, but I'm weak. :rolleyes:

[triplet]

Wow is right. Cool!

I can't wait! :D

[Thunder Emperor]

Boy seems like there are through everything out for season 5 wooooohoooo thank God. I get to see superman in action

[mellyM]

Ugh! so tempting to read the sides...help..I promised I wouldn't..I need will power!

[Morg]

The Duo realizes that the yellow Sun gives them amazing abilities and they both surround Lana. Military helicopters then descend from the skies and four military humvees head toward them. Lana uses the distraction to make her escape.

Hmm shouldn't it take longer for them to be charged up?

[smsvmos]

This Episode is goin to be the *****snet LoL. So the rule of no more Kryptonian has gone down the toilet??? Well I hope the keep braking some of those rules and we get to see Clark Fly again and also put the suit at some point. I guess one of the writers for Smallville is also a Dragon Ball Z fan cause that kryptonian is named Nam-Ek and in DBZ they have a Namek (Piccolo) so thats cool. At the end of the Spoilers where they try to put Kal-El into a place where he can not interfear them in their plans, that place has writen "Phantom Zone" all over it :D thats awsome

[Ultimate_Superman]

How does Clark get back? And how does Chole get back as well? And wil we be seeing Super-Breath? :mad:

[Serene]

Holy Mythology, Batman!

er.. I mean.. COOL!

I guess they got a pretty good budget for this one. It sounds expensive. I'll read all the spoilers I'm sure. Remember, SV spoilers don't always turn out to be accurate so there's still a slight element of doubt in there that you can comfort yourself with.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

These spoilers are great. I wonder if the recent trip to Australia to meet Singer was so they can be allowed to use Kryptonians. More so, will the connection between movie and show be the fact that these Kryptonians come from the same place where Routh will find HIS Kryptonians ?

[mellyM]

I looked up Aethyr and Nam-Ek on Superman homepage. http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/pre-crisis-reviews/pre-crisis-mmrs-intro.php?topic=c-review-pc-dccp97

[Bad Superman]

Will we see the FOS??? Or Clark will just show up at the hospital after throwing the crystal?

Gosh. . . I tried not to read, but I couldn't resist. Can't wait for Season 5 to begin!!!

[0neDisturbedSOB]

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/spoilers.htm
Clark puts what he learned at the Fortress to use and musters all his strength to break free.

I'm confused because there is no mention of the fortress in any spoilers I've read....what does he learn?

[Zorex]

Holy Wow. Holy Action. Holy...Phantom Zone?

Sounds interesting...I'm not surprised that they may be holding off on showing anything from the Fortress until after the premiere.

Sounds like that "No Kryptonians" rule is out the window.

[cheungcheung]

the reason why we don't have any fortress of solitude spoilers is probably because those scenes involve only clark and possibly chloe...

we have a lot of spoilers concerning the kryptonians because their sides have been released (with a lot of their scenes) so that auditions can be done to fill these roles..

and lois with a rocket launcher? please.

and yeah.. i am surprised that kryptonians were in teh ship...

[SpideyStu2]

Sounds a bit too much like Superman 2. Kryptonians come to Earth (so much for "Last Son of Krypton") and start using their powers for a not-so-good cause. Of course there isn't a Zod and he doesn't demand the whole kneeling thing, lol.

All in all it looks alright but there's gotta be more with Clark and the FOS, if it exists yet. Remember, he was transported to Antartica but not exactly the fortress. And how did Chloe get transferred there too?

[cheungcheung]

chloe getting transported there is a horrid idea.

[Spidergurl4302]

sounds good to me so far :up:

o and Lois with a rocket launcher: LMAO :D:up: cant wait to see that :D

[Bratgirl]

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/spoilers.htm

Season 5 picks up immediately where we left off at the close of “Commencement.”

Two near-naked figures step out of the Black Ship. Apparently they are two evil Kryptonians - Nam-Ek, a powerfully, built black man and Aethyr, a blond woman who wears a steel bracelet. Both are in their 20’s.

Lana tells the both of them she means no harm, but they advance towards her. Lana tries to run with her wounded leg, but Aethyr super speeds in front of her and reveals a Kryptonian Symbol tattooed on the small of her back (exactly where Lana was marked with her tattoo).

The Duo realizes that the yellow Sun gives them amazing abilities and they both surround Lana. Military helicopters then descend from the skies and four military humvees head toward them. Lana uses the distraction to make her escape.

The two Kryptonians proceed to destroy the helicopters and humvees. Lana is crouching in the bushes as Nam-Ek states, ”We must find Kal-El.”

Lex is revealed to be trapped in the destroyed caves. Chloe has disappeared. Lex encounters the two aliens in the caves. They think he is Kal-El, because he has the Octagonal Key. Lex had taken the key out of the Altar slot. Nam-Ek calls the Key to him and destroys it in his bare hands. He then grabs Lex and flings him against the wall. Aethyr digs her nails into his skin and blood seeps out of the puncture. They know he’s not Kal-El cause he’s bleeding.

Chloe is lying face down on ice in the Artic Tundra.

The Kents are in the hospital following the meteor crashing thru their house. Lois offers to help them get the house back in order. Just then the aliens show up and begin to destroy the hospital and killing people. They state that they will kill more humans unless Kal-El is brought to them. Lois tells them she knows where Kal-El is hiding. She brings them out to Fort Ryan (military base).

Lana is asleep on the couch in the Luthor mansion when coarse scratching sounds awaken her. She encounters Lionel scratching the same Kryptonian symbol that she saw on the Aliens into the floor with an ice pick.

Lois and the Aliens are at Fort Ryan. They grow tired of her conversations. Then she fires a rocket launcher at them while saying “Best thing about growing up on a military base? Things that go boom.” Aethyr and Nam-Ek walk out of the inferno unscathed. Lois says “Whoops.”

Lois tries to get away by telling them it was a joke or something. They grab her throat.

The next scene is Clark at the hospital with his parents. Mr. Kent has finished telling him about the Aliens and that they are looking for Kal-El. Clark reacts surprised and grows angry, “I’ll make it easy for them. Where are they?”

Clark encounters the Aliens at Fort Ryan. They tell him they are not his enemies and mean him no harm. Nam-Ek tell Clark that they are the last Survivors of Krypton and that together with Kal-El they plan to bring the utopia that their forefathers envisioned to Earth.

Clark tells them what they did at the hospital is murder, not utopia. Clark rejects them and Aethyr removes her metal bracelet.

The Bracelet mushrooms into a Vortex. The Aliens tell Clark they can put him where he won’t be able to stop them.

Clark puts what he learned at the Fortress to use and musters all his strength to break free.


Ohh sounds good, wish it was already the new season

[Zorex]

Sounds a bit too much like Superman 2. Kryptonians come to Earth (so much for "Last Son of Krypton") and start using their powers for a not-so-good cause. Of course there isn't a Zod and he doesn't demand the whole kneeling thing, lol.

All in all it looks alright but there's gotta be more with Clark and the FOS, if it exists yet. Remember, he was transported to Antartica but not exactly the fortress. And how did Chloe get transferred there too?
Yeah, a bit like SII. But comparisons are inevitable in a situation like that.

Think back to Commencement: Chloe moves closer to Clark and the secret room in the cave. There is a burst of light when Clark takes the newly-forged crystal, which, assumedly, fills the cave. But the camera's on Chloe, not Lex, and her reaction is enough to support a transport and not just shock from the burst.

[GothicPowerMix1]

How the hell does Chloe get to the fortress ? & yep just as I thought 2 super villians for Season 5 & that = this is the LAST season seems like they are going out with a bang & at least the 2 new guys arent asking where is Clark Kent because then that'd pretty much throw Clark's real identity out the window :p

[AwesomeGuy]

It just depends how they handle this as to whether it can be good, i hope they dont have the kryptonians for just one episode

Nobody copied off of DBZ, unless you can show me a dbz ep or manga from the 50s or 60s, its the other way around, DBZ has taken a lot from superman

[Spidergurl4302]

How the hell does Chloe get to the fortress ?well if you re-watch Commencement Chloe pushes Lex and goes to where Clark was so she was closer and it seemed like she was pulled when there was that flash. The part I dont get is why wasnt she was transported to the same spot where we saw Clark in the end

[BAMFaly]

Whoa there... you mean we don't get to see the fortress of solitude. Hmm! Surely we se that.

Where'd you get the advanced script from anyway?

[triplet]

It's from the character sides... they have to send out bits of the script for people to audition for certain parts on the show, those bits of the show that are printed are called "sides" because they just print the pages for the particular character...

Anyway, the show will start filming in a few weeks and they need to cast the parts, so the sides are sent out to casting agencies and you can download them from online apparently if you work for a casting agency...

The sides probably don't contain any scenes from the FOS since only Clark, and apparently Chloe, will be there... since those scenes don't have any guest stars or bit players in them those scenes aren't included...

It doesn't mean that the FOS won't be shown, it just means that the scenes from the FOS weren't included in the sides...

I wonder sometimes if they do that on purpose, you know. Make some scenes only have regular cast members in them...

Lana was the only one that was there to find that ship, after all and the ship wasn't spoiled.

And no one who wasn't a regular witnessed Chloe getting blown up and THAT wasn't spoiled.

[BAMFaly]

Ah OK... I get it. Good, good 'cause I was really looking forward to that.

[Zues4Life]

Sounds AWESOME!I can't wait to see this episode.

[Zues4Life]

And I'm glad that Jason's gone!WAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Zorex]

The part I dont get is why wasnt she was transported to the same spot where we saw Clark in the end
Yeah, I don't quite get that either, but I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

[Zues4Life]

Maybe she wasn't in the exact place with Clark to get transported where he did.

[user123456789]

OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD I CAN NOT WAIT FOR SEASON 5....... my guess to clarks new power that he has mastered is flying. I dont see super-breath helping him in this situation because he can't superbreath both at once to prevent them from pushing him into the vortex. I imagine he'll be like "ARGGG," his face will be full of rage and pain of tryin to break free and then last second he gives a big scream, bends down, and jumps up and flys away!

AND PLEASE i hope lana finally figures out what / who clark really is. She already knows he goes by the name Kal (from season 3 premiere).

[spider-jide]

when does this season start?

[AgentPat]

when does this season start?It hasn't been officially announced yet, but Sept 22nd is being speculated as the most likely preem date.

[NHawk19]

How are they going to get around the whole CK=Kal-El thing. Two people walking around looking for Kal-El by name are going to eventually have to find him. I'd also imagine once they do find him something large would follow.

[triplet]

Maybe she wasn't in the exact place with Clark to get transported where he did.

That's what I was thinking...

I thought it looked like she was blown back when Clark vanished, but it could easily have been she was taken too. I don't find it that hard to reconcile her being pulled to the arctic too with what happened in Commencement.

Frankly, this one is easier to swallow than her NOT really being blown up Covenant.

That whole secret tunnel dealie with Lex was a bit too Deus Ex Machina for me...

[Zues4Life]

The only reason Lex wasn't teleported was because he wasn't in the area where Clark and Chloe were.Chloe was only about 2 feet from Clark.I wonder will he finally tell her his secret and then they fly back to Smallville?That would be good to see.

Is Nam-Ek African American?His description says a beautifully built black man.I'm a little confused.Someone help me out please.

[Super_Child]

Nam-ek? dbz much?

[user123456789]

whats so hard to understand about "a beautifully built black man?" Sounds like a black dude to me, lol.

[triplet]

The character Nam-Ek is from pre-Crisis comics, take a look at K-site or Supermanhomepage. They both have articles on the names Aethyr and Nam-ek... I think someone actually had a link on this thread somewhere...

[user123456789]

I dont know which came first, DBZ or superman. So, does that mean DBZ copied superman, or vice versa? Or is this just a bit coincidence?

[triplet]

These names are from Pre-Crisis (ie pre-1986 - I think) so I don't know how old DBZ is but I think the Superman version of Nam-Ek would then predeate it...

[Serene]

New spoilers have been posted. :)

[GothicPowerMix1]

Where ?

[Serene]

Sorry..they're up now at DTS (www.devotedtosmallville.com) and probably soon to be at K-Site as well.

[Flash48]

How does Lana know that Kryptonite hurts them? And from the sound of it, when one of them tells clark that his human friends are weak or something, Lana finally figures it out. Thank God for that

[Thunder Emperor]

man season five looks like it will take no prisoners

[user123456789]

man season five looks like it will take no prisoners

What does this mean?

[user123456789]

Additional Spoilers - Added 06/27/2005

The fight scene between Clark and the Aliens continues. There is a Heat Vision battle between the 3 Aliens that results in an explosion. All 3 Kryptonians are blasted back. Clark falls near the swirling Vortex. Nam-Ek catches up to Clark and is about to hurl him into the Vortex when...

Lana Appears with a Rock of Green K, weakening Nam-Ek. Clark tries to hide the pain. Aethyr runs towards Lana and weakens with each step she takes. She spurts out a little heat Vision at Lana.

Clark reacts in horror as the fire sears into Lana’s arm. The Green K falls from her hand and behind trunks labeled "Lead Munitions."

Nam-Ek tells Clark, "You’re human friends are of no use to you."

Clark uses a trick learned at the Fortress and proceeds to battle the Aliens.

There is a minor scene at the Hospital. When Nam-Ek & Aethyr first arrive at the Hospital, they kill a Doctor by snapping his neck.

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Ok... i smell BS! That sounds too good to be true for Lana to 1) know the effects of Green Kryptonite, 2) Nam-Ek to say "your human friends are of no use to you", therefore letting Lana in on the secret.

I think instead of Lana, its CHLOE in that scene.

[rumpuso]

Well, I think if Lana is there in the first place and sees Clark fighting the 2 Kryptonians, she's going to deduce that Clark must be Kal el; unless she doesn't witness any of the fighting. But she must see some of it since she brings out the green K.

[GothicPowerMix1]

What he means boyscouT is that Season 5 is the final season & is going to go out WITH A VERY BIG BANG

[SpideyStu2]

Lana finally figuring out Clark's secret at the beginning of the season would be great in my opinion. But they haven't really put any closure on Chloe's knowledge of the secret either.

[Spidergurl4302]

I'm far from a Clark and Lana fan but at least she's finally going to find out because that, as well as their relationship, has really been dragged out too long....

[AgentPat]

I seriously doubt (with a capital D!) Lana will find out who and what Clark is in the season premiere. No way Jose. It's one of the biggest of all of SV's Holy Grails. I'm *sure* Lana will eventually find out. It has to happen. But Clark needs to tell her, and it shouldn't happen (IMHO) till the very last episode. I like it that Chloe thinks Clark is the ultimate meteor freak and it's a hoot watching her run block for Clark behind his back (like Pete used to do in the comics), but a whole season of *everybody* knowing (Jonathan, Martha, Chloe, Lana, a downloaded Lionel - who knows what's gonna happen with THAT twist, a VERY suspicious Lex on the cusp, and Lois - even if it is ten or so years down the road) would be kinda boring. It's more fun when most folks don't know. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Dr. Willowbrook again. ;)

[Serene]

I think it's just too early to tell what's going to happen. If it is Lana holding the green-K. then maybe she overheard the aliens talking about it... otherwise, maybe it's a mistake and it really is Chloe who comes to Clark's rescue since we know she already knows about green-K.

We have a long time to speculate. :)

[Spidergurl4302]

I'm still hoping its Chloe, it makes more sense and its not so out of character for her like it would be for Lana

[Serene]

I agree.. I'd rather not have Lana know that early in the season. I'm still holding out for Lana to find out from Clark just prior to or during a flight.

[Spidergurl4302]

I hope she finds out maybe mid-season because they have to start showing why Clark and Lana wont work and why he has to go to Metropolis and why he leaves her behind

[NHawk19]

Maybe it will be Dr. Crosby who comes back to save the day. I mean if they can save Jason why not her?


Yea right

[mellyM]

I'm fine with Lana knowing at any point in the season, anything to not have them need to come up with some elaborate plot to give her something to do thats still connected to Clark. It'd be nice to see Clark having possibly 2 people to confide in, and to watch his back. Having to lie to his friends must be getting old to him.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree I with you Melly. I mean they have gotten to the point where it is the same tried old Plot with Lana and Clark. Hell sometimes they done the same thing two or three times. They need something different. I mean they could go the Lois and Clark route I mean when Lois found out on the TV show she was mad before glad. I just think Lana needs to find out soon. Forget waiting to the end of the show. I want the end of the series to be like a movie type of thing.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Ah the good old last summer of Smallville predictions :p

[triplet]

I don't think Lana should find out this early in the season, if this is the last season then she should find out sometime this season but only because Clark tells her.

I want something like the flying scene from SFAS.... That would be perfect.

[AgentPat]

I hope she finds out maybe mid-season because they have to start showing why Clark and Lana wont work and why he has to go to Metropolis and why he leaves her behindAssuming S5 is indeed the last, I'm sure they'll address ALL of those things. How could they not, y'know? Plus, the writing team is slowly venturing into previously charted territory with the FOS, Clark's realization that if he wants to help people on a GRAND scale, he can't do it effectively AS Clark Kent, the origin of the suit, and finally Clark telling Lana about who he is and why he has to leave Smallville. Compound those things with SV's own loose ends - the explanation of how the \8/ becomes an \S/, Lionel's eventual demise and how that will change Lex - if at all, Clark's relationship with Lex and why Lex wouldn't recognize Clark in a costume that doesn't cover his face (maybe he will - like Lois?), and finally, how Clark overcomes his fear of flying (such a brilliant little detail LOL) and learns to do it by sheer power of will.

ALL these things SHOULD be covered before the show ends. If they can squeeze all that and then some into one season, we're in for an AMAZING year. I just hope they don't gloss over some of the details in favor of developing deeper backstories for insignificant characters i.e.: bringing back Lucy. I'm already worried that one of the "tricks" Clark learns while at the FOS is superbreath. I want a WHOLE episode written around that, just like every other super power he's developed. From the spoilers, it sounds like Clark might come home with a "hey mom, look what I learned how to do today" throw-away scene. :mad:

[mellyM]

It seems like it would be hard to have an entire episode around superbreath..how would they do it?

[Flash48]

Sounds like there will be barely any room or time for filler episodes which I have absolutely no problem with

[user123456789]

Sounds like there will be barely any room or time for filler episodes which I have absolutely no problem with

amen.

[Serene]

Clark uses a trick learned at the Fortress and proceeds to battle the Aliens..

Hmm.. I wonder if that particular "trick" learned up yonder has anything to do with his ice cold (and no doubt, minty) breath? It would be a cool way to see it for the first time, in a heated battle against the aliens.

[triplet]

I wonder if that could be it? Interesting. Heat vision battle might make sense to use ice cold breath against that...

[Metamorpho1977]

It seems like it would be hard to have an entire episode around superbreath..how would they do it?

Lois' six year old neice shows up for a birthday party and Clark has to blow up all the balloons.

[Metamorpho1977]

some spoilers added 6/28 to kryptonsite.com

- Lionel tells Lana that Nam-Ek and Aethyr are disciples of Zod and must be stopped. Yes... he said it... ZOD!
- Lionel gives Lana a green Kryptonite rock so she can stop the two aliens. Lana looks down at the rock, and seems to start to put the situation together as to what she needs to do...

Clark and Lex Confrontation
- "We don't have time for an investigation," Clark tells Lex, maybe referring to the events that happened at the end of season 4. "Then be straight with me," Lex challenges him. "If you're my friend, you'll tell me the truth. Why were you in the caves when the meteors hit?"

- Jonathan tells a police officer that Fort Ryan must be notified immediately. The officer turns around with a bloody face, his eyes dazed.


- Clark's new skill learned from Jor-El in the Fortress has him leaping backward in the air in a perfect backflip. His feet ram into Nam-Ek's chest, sending him flying 30 feet. Aethyr rips a wing off of a plane's fuselage and swings it at Clark. It misses. Twin shimmers of heat vision blast after Clark. Clark blasts back with his own rays. This goes until Aethyr fires a blast into the axis of criscrossing beams up above. All three of them are flown back from the inevitable blast. Clark falls on the ground, near the vortex, and Nam-Ek grabs him by the leg. "Goodbye, Kal-El," Nam-Ek says, ready to give him the final blow, when his own knees start to weaken.
- Reveal Lana right behind him, clutching a glowing green rock of Kryptonite. Clark tries to hide his own gripping pain. Aethyr rushes across the warehouse, getting weaker as she gets closer to the green rock. Weakened, Aethyr lets out a burst of heat vision which sears Lana's arm. Lana screams and slams back, knocking over some shelves, right behind those trunks labeled "lead munitions." Clark is back on his feet. The vortex continues to whirl. "Your human friends are of no use to you now, Kal-El," Nam-Ek tells him. Clark remembers Jor-El's words inside the Fortress and superspeed leaps into the air, ands ends up in the rafters, hidden from Nam-Ek and Aethyr. Aeythr searches for him, frustrated, when Clark comes back down from up above and pounces her, propelling her into the vortex. She digs her fingers into the floor when she is sucked inside. Nam-Ek struggles and tries to grab her arm and pull her out. As Nam-Ek struggles, Clark hurls a cannon at him, and....

[Flash48]

God I love how they are disciples of Zod. That sounds awesome

[Ardrhielle]

The thing I don't get is why they'd reveal almost all of the first episode in spoilers so long before it even airs. Is this for real? I mean, don't get me wrong, but some parts of this are sounding a bit cheesy, imho (but I guess, not any worse than three of the main characters turning into witches...)

[user123456789]

Um... so in light of the new spoilers:

Maybe it is Lana that uses green K, since its Lionel helping her.
I can't wait for Lex and Clarks confrontation
Clarks "new skill" is almost what i imagined!!!!
WTF... TWO SUPER-POWERED BAD GUYS, BUT BY THE LOOKS OF IT, THEY ARE ELIMINATED IN ONE EPISODE? (i smell filler episodes... boo)

[Ardrhielle]

So much for the 'no kryptonians' edict! :P

[user123456789]

The thing I don't get is why they'd reveal almost all of the first episode in spoilers so long before it even airs. Is this for real? I mean, don't get me wrong, but some parts of this are sounding a bit cheesy, imho (but I guess, not any worse than three of the main characters turning into witches...)

I disagree. Since the intial spoilers, we've gotten 2 more. Instead of adding to the mix, they are actually just refining our initial spoilers. What do we know so far?

Teagues are dead, Kents are alive. Clark is back from the FOS, fights a couple bad guys. Lana, with the help of Lionel, helps Clark. Lex confronts Clark.

Thats about it.

[Flash48]

still waiting for spoilers on chloe...

[Serene]

Chloe spoiler -

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~flint/grandma_ed.JPG:D

[triplet]

ROTFLMFAO!

:D Too funny....

[Zues4Life]

Well,we know that his new ability isn't flying.I hope that Zod comes.

[AgentPat]

Chloe spoiler -

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~flint/grandma_ed.JPGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!! OMG! That's hysterical!!!!! :up: :D

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think Lana finds out at the start of this season because look at it. You have what 222 shows a season. There is no way you can explain Lana finding out that Clark is not from Earth and that some of his home planet killed her parents all in what 2 or 3 shows. You need a whole season to cope with that almost. I worked for Pete because Pete is not a big part in the comic's to much. Lana is so it wouldn't work as well. I also really wish that for the series finally they did a Superman movie, that would some what lead into SR but we all can't get what we wish for.

[AgentPat]

I think Lana finds out at the start of this season because look at it. You have what 222 shows a season...222 episodes? :eek: OMG! I WISH!!! :p

I also really wish that for the series finally they did a Superman movie, that would some what lead into SR but we all can't get what we wish for.Well, maybe not 222 episodes (LOL!), but an extended finale in the form of a movie is definitely doable. ;) :D

[Ultimate_Superman]

lol I am sorry Pat thanks for pointing it out. Though I will not not change it :mad: I am to lazy ;)

[AgentPat]

lol I am sorry Pat thanks for pointing it out. Though I will not not change it :mad: I am to lazy ;)HAHAHA!! No need to change it. I thought it was a riot. Who here *wouldn't* want 222 episodes of SV? C'mon!

[Ultimate_Superman]

I would love it if it went into a Superman TV show but I doubt they would do that.

[AgentPat]

I would love it if it went into a Superman TV show but I doubt they would do that.Depends on who "they" are. If the show is still making a good profit, "they" (The WB) would likely want to keep the show going for as long as possible - in any form. But "they" (the cast, crew, and possibly the producers) might have other plans for their respective future careers than be stuck doing a TV show. Tough to know what folks want. Just look at the Superman forums. :p ;)

[Ultimate_Superman]

Ah Pat how I missed talking to you. You were always a fun poster.

[Serene]

Ah Pat how I missed talking to you. You were always a fun poster.

Sheesh.. you sound like you're talking to her tombstone or something!

(like the SV reference? ;))

[Ultimate_Superman]

Its not that I just haven't post here as much as I use to. Some of the people here are okay.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Speaking of which is Muscles still here or band again?

[AgentPat]

Ah Pat how I missed talking to you. You were always a fun poster.I try! :)

Sheesh.. you sound like you're talking to her tombstone or something!LOL!! Yup, dat's me. SuperPat. And I'm back from my self-imposed six year absence. Or was it five years? They keep changing it. Oh, whatever. But hey, at least I'm younger now. :up: :D

Yes folks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal. ;)

Speaking of which is Muscles still here or band again?Muscles was an anomaly that was never explained. He lives in SHH infamy. Long live Muscles. :hyper:

[Ultimate_Superman]

So he is banned again?

[AgentPat]

So he is banned again?I forget the last handle he was using, but I seem to recall a post where he said goodbye to everybody. It was strange, but I don't think his last handle was banned outright. I could be wrong. Muscles came and went like the wind, and it became a game trying to figure out if the latest n00b was him. LOL ;)

[triplet]

I forget the last handle he was using, but I seem to recall a post where he said goodbye to everybody. It was strange, but I don't think his last handle was banned outright. I could be wrong. Muscles came and went like the wind, and it became a game trying to figure out if the latest n00b was him. LOL ;)

I believe his last handle was "svfreakoftheweek", or something to that effect. Which was somehow oddly appropriate... ;)

[NHawk19]

some spoilers added 6/28 to kryptonsite.com

- Lionel tells Lana that Nam-Ek and Aethyr are disciples of Zod and must be stopped. Yes... he said it... ZOD!
- Lionel gives Lana a green Kryptonite rock so she can stop the two aliens. Lana looks down at the rock, and seems to start to put the situation together as to what she needs to do...



Hey Morg still think Zod's not going to have anything to do with Season 5?

[AgentPat]

Hey Morg still think Zod's not going to have anything to do with Season 5?Ouch. Pwnage. LOL ;)

Never. Say. Never.
...Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

[NHawk19]

Well he is usually the first (and most vocal) when it comes to refuting things like Zod.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Hey Morg still think Zod's not going to have anything to do with Season 5?and on that note you just got
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Eg-b-dix/ani_gifs/owned.gif

[Joaqenix]

New Smallville watcher here, but I've sort of become obsessed with it already through the DVDs. It happens.

And the first question I have is, is this next season definitely the last one? Because people in this thread have been talking like it is. I hope it isn't, it seems like there is so much more they can tell. I don't at all agree that Clark should tell Lana about his secret in the last episode of the show. I'd rather see her react to it. I think they can get a whole season out of the drama that would call. Personally, I'd like them to start out dating this season, and her find out mid-way, get freaked out, react to it dramatically the rest of the season...blah blah.

But I do think Lana NEEDS to find out this season. Especially if the show is going on another season. Its been way to drawn out. Although its going to be weird having almost everyone in the show know, it can't be helped. It just makes Lana look silly and stupid if she still doesn't know...besides, by now shes practically the only one who doesn't.

They can just add another regular castmember and that one doesn't have to know. If Clark actually ends up at college, it could be his roommate or something.

[The Incredible Hulk]

there is no definitive word on it being the last season. It's all speculation at this point, from what Ive heard no decision has been made one way or the other at this point. WB has the actors under contract for 2 more years after this one if they want them...

[triplet]

I don't think it's for sure the final season, but MR and TW are almost certainly biting at the bit to move on, the other cast members are probably also so I guess we'll see.

I think it will get approved for a sixth year, but they have plans for seven seasons if all goes well. Al & Miles said that it probably wouldn't go beyond that in an interview.

I don't think Lana should find out by any other way than Clark telling her. It's fine for Chloe to find out from other means, but Lana needs to hear it from Clark. Whether it's a romantic flight like the one Joe used to tell Louise in Relic (which was based on how Clark tells Lana in Loeb's Superman for All Seasons) or some other way.

Personally, I think it would be a disservice to their relationship if she finds out before he has a chance to tell her. I want to hear Clark's explanation anyway.

The season preem doesn't sound like it would provide Clark a chance to come clean on his own, I think that is the real reason some don't want her to find out that early. (That's why I don't, anyway.)

Maybe the events in the preem will raise her suspicions, it seems that the events from Commencement have definitely raised Lex's, so maybe it isn't too far of a stretch for her to start to suspect that Clark is more than a meteor freak.

Lionel's new found knowledge due to having information downloaded by the kryptonian stone is the real wild card...

From the spoilers, it seems he now knows about the kryptonite vulnerability, so will he use that info against Clark at some point next season?

What else does he know? How much does he remember from Transference?

Why did he shoot Jason in commencment? Was he trying to protect Clark or just tryng to keep Lex from learning the truth for his own devious purposes?

[Joaqenix]

Oh ok. I know I've read that Smallville is the top rated show on the WB among males, and one of their top performers in general. Personally, I doubt they'd end it after this season. I think there is so much more left to tell.

It would be a disservice to Lana's character if she doesn't begin to suspect something after the premiere. I know some fans don't like her, but she isn't an absolute moron. She has to figure that Clark isn't telling her something.

[Zues4Life]

I heard something about it being 7 seasons total of Smallville.I hope that it's true.

[Serene]

Oh ok. I know I've read that Smallville is the top rated show on the WB among males, and one of their top performers in general. Personally, I doubt they'd end it after this season. I think there is so much more left to tell.
I'm torn about the whole thing. On the one hand, I love the show and will be watching them for as long as they keep making them. I'll be seriously depressed once it's all over. On the other.. since I do love the show, I want it to go out on top of it's game and not dragging itself across the line with forced stories and actors phoning it in because they're burnt out.

It would be a disservice to Lana's character if she doesn't begin to suspect something after the premiere. I know some fans don't like her, but she isn't an absolute moron. She has to figure that Clark isn't telling her something.
Not all the fans hate her.. but a lot of the very vocal online fans do. I've never really understood it, particularly the reaaally venomous ones. I really don't know how that reflects on the public in general though. The friends I know who watch, but aren't online, are all waiting for Clark and Lana to finally get together. So, who knows? I've always liked her.. but I kinda like everyone on the show these days for the different things they bring to the overall story. I'm just a pushover. :)

She'll find out eventually, but I agree with Trip, I want her to find out from the source, and not by accident, or by figuring it out herself. She already knows that Clark has secrets.. and she has suspicions, but the truth has to come from him, and by his own choosing. It's a scene I've been waiting to see for a very long time.

[Flash48]

I'm willing to bet they start dating during this season because of they way they left each other in the 4th season finale and thats why he tells her.

[Mr. McCarthy]

I hear that something that happens in the 5th season that has a big effect on Superman Returns

[AgentPat]

I hear that something that happens in the 5th season that has a big effect on Superman ReturnsYeah - Clark becomes Superman and then de-ages about three years...



Hey, don't look at me. Iz probably some meteor freak thang.



:p

[Michael Corleone]

Ok forgive me if this has been mentioned on here already. I'm normally just on the Superman forum but have ventured into the smallville one as of late. Now all this talk of Zod got me thinking. Now stay with me on this one because this is a just a big guess. What if Jor-El is actually Zod? What if the entire time the whole conquer the earth message was because it's actually Zod trying to manipulate Clark? And IF there is any truth to this....COULD....Terance Stamp reprize his role? Now this I know this is a huge assumption but DAMN if that wouldnt be cool?

[triplet]

No, I don't think so... I used to think Jor-El was the Eradicator, but I'm thinking that Pat is right now and it is Jor-El in the caves.

[Mr. McCarthy]

Good theory

[Serene]

Yeah - Clark becomes Superman and then de-ages about three years...:p

I think he did that fly around the globe really really fast to turn back time thing m'self. ;):D

[triplet]

I think he did that fly around the globe really really fast to turn back time thing m'self. ;):D

ROTFLMFAO!

:D

[Joaqenix]

I hear that something that happens in the 5th season that has a big effect on Superman Returns

I've been thinking that maybe they'd bring that new character, Richard White (played by James Marsden) onto Smallville as a way to introduce him. I don't pay a lot of attention to the Superman comics, but I think I've heard that Richard White doesn't exist in the general storyline...so maybe they made him up and are now putting him in Smallville to introduce him and set up backstory with him and Clark? That could be cool.

[triplet]

Oh, Gawd! I hope not!

[LL2K2]

Oh, Gawd! I hope not!

:up:

Absolutely right, Trip. I said it before about the costume, and I'll say it again about Richard White:

"Smallville" and Superman Returns are two separate entries. Trying to bring one thing from the film onto the TV series (and vice-versa) is foolish.

[Michael Corleone]

I've been thinking that maybe they'd bring that new character, Richard White (played by James Marsden) onto Smallville as a way to introduce him. I don't pay a lot of attention to the Superman comics, but I think I've heard that Richard White doesn't exist in the general storyline...so maybe they made him up and are now putting him in Smallville to introduce him and set up backstory with him and Clark? That could be cool.

I think the "big effect" is more about continuity of both the show and the film. I doubt we will see any characters introduced that will show up in the movie.

[Thunder Emperor]

I think the "big effect" is more about continuity of both the show and the film. I doubt we will see any characters introduced that will show up in the movie.

i hope not i want none of the two to mix, specially at this stage.

[Bad Superman]

Any connection between SR and SV will look forced. Let'em stay separate.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree with you bad Superman. Hey want to get drunk and fix a famous leaning tower? ;)
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/superman-3/superman-3-01.jpg
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/superman-3/superman-3-06.jpg

Any ways after putting the moves on my mom I think I need a drink :(
http://www.uploadit.org/bstone314/sup20.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/bstone314/sup53.jpg

[Bad Superman]

I agree with you bad Superman. Hey want to get drunk and fix a famous leaning tower? ;)
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/superman-3/superman-3-01.jpg
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/superman-3/superman-3-06.jpg

YEEEEEHHH :up: . . . I had fun doing that. :D

[triplet]

Any ways after putting the moves on my mom I think I need a drink http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

Yeah, I saw Supes III on TV a month or so ago and the way she says Clark hasn't really changed... So it was kinda creepy since he was like hitting on his mom...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


http://www.uploadit.org/bstone314/sup20.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/bstone314/sup53.jpg

Ewww...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[JackMercy]

General Weather Forecast for Smallville:


Actual sun required from main actors: Five

Options and re-negotiations of sunny weather: Two, and costly...

Likelihood of contracted actors wanting to provide sunny weather beyond S5: 33%

Prediction of sunny weather for Smallville after five years: 15%

Possibility of Mixed Precipitation and Stormy Weather once Movie appears: 98%


This weather forecast brought to you by veteran reporters with many water coolers.

:cool:

[Bad Superman]

Yeah, I saw Supes III on TV a month or so ago and the way she says Clark hasn't really changed... So it was kinda creepy since he was like hitting on his mom...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif



Ewww...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

http://www.ineedmorecowbell.com/pics/drunkpumpkin.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

General Weather Forecast for Smallville:


Actual sun required from main actors: Five

Options and re-negotiations of sunny weather: Two, and costly...

Likelihood of contracted actors wanting to provide sunny weather beyond S5: 33%

Prediction of sunny weather for Smallville after five years: 15%

Possibility of Mixed Precipitation and Stormy Weather once Movie appears: 98%


This weather forecast brought to you by veteran reporters with many water coolers.

:cool:

well, you know what they say about the accuracy of most weather predictions... ;) :p

[Bruce_Wayne29]

No, I don't think so... I used to think Jor-El was the Eradicator, but I'm thinking that Pat is right now and it is Jor-El in the caves.

I'll be really pissed if it isn't The Eradictor because not only did they build it like it was but they used it's powers on Covenant and that is not something that could be easily erased. I still think (especially if they will try to drag things for a sixth or seventh season) that it will be.
It could be a great storyline and a great way to stay a way a bit from the foftw episodes.
The Jor-El is actually Zod is a theory that has been going around for a long time mostly because Terence Stamp is doing the voice but now that we know the Kryptonians are disciples of Zod, it would make for an interesting storyline. I can't wait for the season to start to find out !

[triplet]

I'm not sure I like it being Jor-El better than it being the Eradicator in the caves, but if it is Zod instead that would make for some interesting dynamics with Nam-Ek and Aethyr for sure.

In any case, I agree: I can't wait for this season to start!


:up:

[jas01724]

This weather forecast brought to you by veteran reporters with many water coolers.

:cool:It's raining ham and pineapple margarita's... ;)

[AgentPat]

General Weather Forecast for Smallville:

Actual sun required from main actors: Five

Options and re-negotiations of sunny weather: Two, and costly...

Likelihood of contracted actors wanting to provide sunny weather beyond S5: 33%Men. Gah! Can't live with 'em. Can't live w/o 'em. ;)

Prediction of sunny weather for Smallville after five years: 15%Sounds like Vancouver weather. Oh wait...

Possibility of Mixed Precipitation and Stormy Weather once Movie appears: 98%Well, that's what insurance companies are for: rebuilding after the storm.

This weather forecast brought to you by veteran reporters with many water coolers.Hee! Have the fish bowls been getting more noisy, Jack? That's what happens when ya don't clean the filters, y'know? ;)

well, you know what they say about the accuracy of most weather predictions... ;) :pOh pish, Hulk. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :D

And Jack's got a Rolex, so, uh... well, you know? LOL

[Bad Superman]

It's raining ham and pineapple margarita's... ;)

http://www.darkhorizons.com/2003/bruce/bruce10.jpg

I wish. . . specially the margaritas. . . .

[Superman=Routh]

I like the fact that they mention Zod, its going to be an interesting year to see how they tie in this season with SR or the Original Reeve movies.

[spiderbob]

Wow. The episode sounds awesome. I found season four to be a bit of a disappointment till near the end, and I'm hoping season five delivers, and by the sounds of it it does. The plot reminds me of the Superman cartoon, where Superman had to face off against the two Kryptonians freed from the Phantom Zone. Big fight. Big Explosions. Lots of damage and destruciton. Cool episode. Was kinda hopin Brainiac was gonna be in the ship, but then that's probably cost WB a small fortune to pull off properly.
Anyone know when the new season begins?

[Zues4Life]

Around the end of September.Anybody besides me recording this?

[triplet]

Oh, I always record but I like to watch them like two or three or five times... :D

I recorded Smallville last night and my hubby came home and said, "Haven't you seen that one like 5 times already?"

So, I said "Yeah, so?"

LOL!

He's mystified by me sometimes... ;)

[WebHead]

sounds like there gonna go in a diffrent direction then i thought they would

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

Oh, I always record but I like to watch them like two or three or five times... :D

I recorded Smallville last night and my hubby came home and said, "Haven't you seen that one like 5 times already?"

So, I said "Yeah, so?"

LOL!

He's mystified by me sometimes... ;)

haha that happened to me last year when they had re-runs.. I was watching it, and my friends, and my girlfriend had come over, and it was on, and my girlfriend wanted to change it, and I wouldn't let her till it was over, and she was like "you seen this episode before.. hell ive seen it with you!" I told her she couldn't change it period! She was like "YOU HAVE IT ON DVD!" LOL
Then at that point I said ok go on change it... lol
Gotta give in sometimes... Chicks always win. It's like the law or something. :D

[triplet]

Yeah, I was watching Prodigal the other night and my son was like "what are you watching?"

"Smallville."

"Which one?"

"Oh, this is the one where Lex's baby brother comes back, Prodigal..."

"Oh, that one. Can I watch a DVD?"

"Maybe after this is over...."

"But don't you like have this on DVD, Mom? Why are you watching this on TV? Do you actually like watching the commercials?"

LOL!

Too funny... ;)

:D

I love that one and this convo happens right before Clark saves Lucas out behind the Talon, I had to watch it... ;)

[triplet]

This is from Kryptonsite (http://www.kryptonsite.com/goughwizard166.htm):

Wizard Offers More Season 5 Hints From Al Gough

Issue #166 of Wizard magazine offers some more hints from Executive Producer Alfred Gough about what to expect in the show's fifth season.

"The first four seasons saw Clark learning who he was, running from his destiny and trying to live a normal life," Gough shared. "This is the season he embraces that destiny and starts moving forward."

The article hints that Lex will travel closer to the dark side this year, with the path possibly being abetted by a new villain that will give both Lex and Lionel "a run for their money."

Also revealed in the article: Chloe will be headed to Metropolis for college while Clark and Lana remain in Smallville. Lois will be back for "at least" 13 episodes. A love triangle may be explored between Clark, Lana, and Lex that will bring the characters to their breaking points. "It gets complicated very fast," Gough reveals.

As for future comics-related characters showing up on the series a la the Flash, "it's too early to say anything officially, but we absolutely want to bring in more characters not only from the Superman universe, but from the rest of the DC universe as well," Gough says.

Wizard #166 is now available.

[Zues4Life]

Oh, I always record but I like to watch them like two or three or five times... :D

I recorded Smallville last night and my hubby came home and said, "Haven't you seen that one like 5 times already?"

So, I said "Yeah, so?"

LOL!

He's mystified by me sometimes... ;)

I watch Smallville epsidoes that I've already seen all of he time.Smallville is just so interesting that it sorta draws you to it and makes you watch it even though it's a rerun.I have alot of Smallville episodes recorded so I'm good.:)

[Michael Corleone]

i hope not i want none of the two to mix, specially at this stage.


Two Superman stories should not mix? Nah that wouldnt alienate any fans. I'm not talking about adding stuff from smallville to the film. I'm talking about making sure things don't contradict themselves. Smallville fans are going to see this film that are not familar with Superman outside of the show. It's wise not to add things to the show or the film that may confuse a demographic. I'd rather the two camps get together and discuss what should and shouldnt be done than let each property run wild. But I wouldnt worry because I would imagine Singer has more pull on his film than Gough and Millar have on their show. What it all boils down to is that it's just so they don't step on each others toes.

[Thunder Emperor]

Two Superman stories should not mix? Nah that wouldnt alienate any fans. I'm not talking about adding stuff from smallville to the film. I'm talking about making sure things don't contradict themselves. Smallville fans are going to see this film that are not familar with Superman outside of the show. It's wise not to add things to the show or the film that may confuse a demographic. I'd rather the two camps get together and discuss what should and shouldnt be done than let each property run wild. But I wouldnt worry because I would imagine Singer has more pull on his film than Gough and Millar have on their show. What it all boils down to is that it's just so they don't step on each others toes.


the reason i said that is that movies of superheroes are considered to be added int o the mythos, while t.v shows aren't. I perrsonally don't lke the directionof the new movie and i never considered smallivlle to be in the mythos but more about the mythos since it refences different eras of superman comics, so therefore it would be best they stay exlusively sepesrate. or i might just get pissed becasue it would seem WB is just trying to make money of the franchisr(mind you which it is). it is just that it shouldn't be that out and clear. :rolleyes:

[Thunder Emperor]

I like the fact that they mention Zod, its going to be an interesting year to see how they tie in this season with SR or the Original Reeve movies.


there will be no tie considering in superman II Zod already came and SR follows superman II five years after. so that whole angle is a wash. they are doing this on their own.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Do you guys think we might be blessed to see Pete this time around. I was pissed he didn't show up for Prom.

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't think we will ever see him again

[Joaqenix]

Oh God, I hope not. Pete was so pointless in the show. And personally, I hated that they told him Clark's secret. Especially at the beginning of the second season. Maybe the beginning of the third season would have worked out better since he was leaving at the end of it anyways. It was obvious they only had Pete find out because there was nothing else to do with him.

Its nothing against the actor, he was fine and I'm sure hes a great person, the character just had nothing to do. Personally, I think Whitney would have made more sense to keep after the first season, and get rid of Pete instead.

[triplet]

I'm with you, Joaqenix... I didn't like Pete as a charater much after the first season.

He was under utilized, totally. I'm sorta glad he didn't appear in Spirit.

Sam Jones seems like a nice guy so I'm sorry it didn't work out for him, but hopefully he'll have a more fulfilling career now that he's kicked the dust of Smallville off of his feet... ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

Thing is Pete's a core charecter in the Smallville/Superman mythos, they could have definetly used him but they didn't handled him well. The writers have tendancy to leave a lot of charecters for dead (Whitney, Jason, Lana, Principal in season 2, Adam etc etc)

[Serene]

I still think it would have been sweet to see him make a cameo for the prom.

[mellyM]

Maybe Pete would have faired better if they'd hired a better actor to play him? I don't know. I love Sam Jones, he seemed like a really great guy, but sometimes you have to inspire the writers too. Maybe he'll make cameos though now that Clark is heading off to college and Jason is gone.

[user123456789]

This is from Kryptonsite (http://www.kryptonsite.com/goughwizard166.htm):

Wizard Offers More Season 5 Hints From Al Gough

Issue #166 of Wizard magazine offers some more hints from Executive Producer Alfred Gough about what to expect in the show's fifth season.

"The first four seasons saw Clark learning who he was, running from his destiny and trying to live a normal life," Gough shared. "This is the season he embraces that destiny and starts moving forward."

The article hints that Lex will travel closer to the dark side this year, with the path possibly being abetted by a new villain that will give both Lex and Lionel "a run for their money."

Also revealed in the article: Chloe will be headed to Metropolis for college while Clark and Lana remain in Smallville. Lois will be back for "at least" 13 episodes. A love triangle may be explored between Clark, Lana, and Lex that will bring the characters to their breaking points. "It gets complicated very fast," Gough reveals.

As for future comics-related characters showing up on the series a la the Flash, "it's too early to say anything officially, but we absolutely want to bring in more characters not only from the Superman universe, but from the rest of the DC universe as well," Gough says.

Wizard #166 is now available.

Love triangle between Clark, Lana, and Lex? One word.. EWWWWWWWWWWWW. The thought of Lana and Lex together really sickens me.

[Clarkman]

It just says "love triangle".
Nobody said LANA would be the one with Lex... :p

[The Kid]

I want to see them tackle this little subject as a filler episode...:up: maybe...?

http://www.tgfa.org/comics/superman/images/Superboy_78_01.jpg

[DarkKnightJRK]

Not all the fans hate her.. but a lot of the very vocal online fans do. I've never really understood it, particularly the reaaally venomous ones. I really don't know how that reflects on the public in general though. The friends I know who watch, but aren't online, are all waiting for Clark and Lana to finally get together. So, who knows? I've always liked her.. but I kinda like everyone on the show these days for the different things they bring to the overall story. I'm just a pushover. :)

This reminds me of the bit that one of our posters named Zev did called "Five Minute Superman Returns" that featured a Smallville piece:



CLARK: Where are we now, Keyser So... I mean, Lex?

LEX: I don't know... it appears to be Smallville... yet within a few hours' drive of Metropolis?

CLARK: Metropolis. Someone was feeling REALLY creative when they came up with that name.

LEX: Hey, a mansion. Maybe someone can help us in there...

CLARK 2: Hey! It's the future uses! This is just like Bill & Ted...

LEX 2: Clark, go be an asshat somewhere else.

CLARK 2: Will you braid my hair later?

LEX 2: Yes, snookums. Now go watch your cartoons.

CLARK: My God! In this universe, I'm an idiotic jackass and you're apparently my gay lover! I don't know how it could get any worse!

LANA: Yoohoo...

LEX: The light of her halo is blinding me!

CLARK: Show's creators... trying to... force everyone to love her...

LEX 2: I love Lana more!

CLARK 2: No, I love Lana more!

CLARK: Lex! C'mon, let's run for it!

LEX: Feet don't fail me now!

...

CLARK: Lex, have you ever wondered what it would be like, you know, with...

LEX: Shut up. Shut up and don't you ever talk again.

[AgentPat]

...LEX: The light of her halo is blinding me!That line made me totally laugh out loud. :up: :D

[avidreader]

Hi All,

I'm new on these boards, 1st post. I've always lurked around a different site, but now that I have found you guys, who seem to have a friendlier and more interesting insite into my favorite TV show, whilst being able to critique without being constantly negative and dwelling on minor details, I think I shall be back here more and more. ;)

I was thrilled to see two of my favorite posters from that other site, AgentPat I love all your great Tom Welling pictures, that man is so gorgeous I just dont know where to begin.... and Triplet I've enjoyed reading your reviews that you have written to date, you've taken alot of time to understand the fundamentals that are going on in the show.

I think the way the whole crystal arc was written was truly sensational and well planned. Congrats to the writers on that one.

I wanted to bring my sixteen year old son into the world of Smallville, as I find with my 10 year old that I have to explain the story, rather than discuss it., but he comes up with some interesting ideas all the same. Anyway, it didnt take much to have my sixteen year old hooked. We watched all 4 seasons in less than two weeks, summer vacation is great and my husband is travelling overseas.:p Well he said that Season 4 was by far his favorite, he loved Lois's character, and he understood everything that was going on. When we watched Forever, which I've seen a few times, it only just occurred to me the similarities that were going on between the Luthors, captured in the woods, and the students, captured in the mock school. I thought Chloe was going to make mention of the fact that Clark hadnt been captured and he would probably come to their rescue but instead we have Jason making mention of the fact that Clark is the one that they all needed to watch out for. Quite a twist. Brilliant!

Well now that you've heard my rant, I had better make some mention of the season 5.1 spoilers, considering that is what this thread is about. I cant wait to see what Clark heres from Jor-el at the FOS, and will Chloe and he have their "talk" in this episode. Sounds like there is way too much going on for it to happen this episode. Lana will begin to understand some of the mystery that surrounds Clark Kent, and there will be some serious alien-butt-kicking going on.

Cant wait for the Premiere!

Do you guys do a countdown here?

[DarkKnightJRK]

That line made me totally laugh out loud. :up: :D

Yep, here's the whole link if you're in a need for a good ole' fasioned belly laugh: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177611

[Serene]

Welcome, avid! :) Love the handle, btw.

Glad you found us here. It's been a bit slow lately, but steady enough for a summer hiatus time I suppose. We have some really interesting discussions during the season after the new eps air, but with plenty of room for disagreements. ;)

I keep wanting to start an in-depth discussion of the show on an ep by ep basis.. something I've participated in for another fandom show. I'm not sure we have enough interest or traffic to support that kind of discussion now though. We'll see if I'm bored one night and want to tackle the Pilot.
I watched the show on DVD with my kids as well (teens also). It's a nice thing to be able to enjoy together, although I'm just a *tad* more into it than they are.

[avidreader]

Welcome, avid! :) Love the handle, btw.

Glad you found us here. It's been a bit slow lately, but steady enough for a summer hiatus time I suppose. We have some really interesting discussions during the season after the new eps air, but with plenty of room for disagreements. ;)

I keep wanting to start an in-depth discussion of the show on an ep by ep basis.. something I've participated in for another fandom show. I'm not sure we have enough interest or traffic to support that kind of discussion now though. We'll see if I'm bored one night and want to tackle the Pilot.
I watched the show on DVD with my kids as well (teens also). It's a nice thing to be able to enjoy together, although I'm just a *tad* more into it than they are.

Thank you for your welcome, and ditto to being more into it than your kids, although I think my 16 year old, I might just have him.

I think it would be great to have a discussion, epi by epi, that would be really fun. I'll be there for sure.

[triplet]

.... and Triplet I've enjoyed reading your reviews that you have written to date, you've taken alot of time to understand the fundamentals that are going on in the show.

Well, anyone that loves my reviews is of course welcome here! ;) :D

Actually, you've made me smile and I need that today. Maybe I'll bring up the reason why in the Talon thread.

Welcome. Hopefully I'll be happier tomorrow....

And I'm totally up on doing an ep by ep discussion.

The Pilot is probably my favorite ep aside from maybe Transferance, Memoria and Blank.

[Spider-Gamer]

I can't wait for the season 5! Just thought you all should know. :D

[AgentPat]

Ah, welcome Avidreader! We'll get you up to 5000 posts in no time. ;)

For the most part, I think a majority of the folks here truly love the show and prefer to discuss what they like about it rather than what they don't like. No TV show is w/o its faults, and folks will have certain preferences about plots, characters and actors, but we're all Superman fans here, so we don't bog down with exasperatingly silly notions like Clark potentially being the villain in the end and Lex the hero because "Clark has shown himself to be unredeemable." :rolleyes: I can't even bring myself to post in threads like that 'cause I just get WAY too frustrated. My compliments to Grand_Sophy for her patience. She's a saint.

As to the spoilers for S5, OMG!! I can't wait. Maria over at DTS typed out the complete list of available sides and the teaser alone sounds like it's gonna be huge. Gotta love Clark's bravado, "Where are they? I'll make it easy for them" when told the two Kryptonians were looking for him. Go Clark! :D

There's also that comment from Durance in the latest SFX - she said that by the end of the season, sparks would fly between Lois and Clark. Wahoo!!!! I just love their antagonistic yet playful banter.

I'm looking forward to see how the yellow blanket fits into the bigger picture. One of the posters here, Squatlow, predicted that Martha and Jonathan saved themselves when the meteor hit their house by pulling the blanket over their heads and Jason wasn't that lucky LOL. If that is indeed what happens, we all owe Squatlow a cookie for calling it. I guess it's also possible, though not likely, that they may not definitively off Jason just in case Supernatural doesn't take off LOL.

Lionel, the wildcard, is going to be AWESOME! Is he good or bad? Who's side is he on? How does his actions effect Lex, if any? Oh, MAN! [Pat foams at the mouth in anticipation.]

Will Clark have to tell Chloe, or will she finally admit to knowing all along. Will they make it humorous with the meteor freak angle, or will Chloe put the pieces together on her own? The plot thickens. I don't think either will spill in the premiere ep, but Clark has some serious 'splainin' to do when he rescues Chloe. Otherwise, she's gonna turn into a blonde snow cone. LOL

Only things about the spoilers that have me a little troubled are Chloe going to college in Metropolis (I don't want her character downplayed like they did with Pete), and this bizarre "love triangle" hinted at between Clark, Lana and Lex. Blech. If they need that kind of angst, I'm sure there are other ways to introduce it.

Anyhoo, yeah, I talk too much. Wind me up and I'm like a top. Just don't get me started on the film. That top has a perpetual motion motor built-in so once started, there's no stopping it. LOL!!

[The Incredible Hulk]

*hands Pat an oxygen mask* :D :p ;)

[AgentPat]

*hands Pat an oxygen mask* :D :p ;)Oxygen mask? Hell, I carry a paper bag in my back pocket at all times, just in case!! LOLOL!!! ;)

[avidreader]

You guys are such fun, I'm really going to enjoy myself here.

You're not going to believe it, but I just got involved in a rather heated discussion over at Ksite and won. Yipee!!!

But I dont think I'll be posting much there any more, this forum is more to my liking, and nearly everyone here thinks that TW is just tooooo hot. Friends for life.

I like the idea of the yellow blanket saving Jonathan and Martha, that is really cool.

Where do I find Maria over at DTS. I would love to read the sides.

mmm.... I think I'm up to message number 3, that's 4997 to go. Yeh!!

[triplet]

You guys are such fun, I'm really going to enjoy myself here.

We're usually up for a good discussion, as long as the flaming is kept at bay.

I know I get short tempered when the idea of what a discussion really is falls beyond the grasp of someone....

You're not going to believe it, but I just got involved in a rather heated discussion over at Ksite and won. Yipee!!!

You go! :D

But I dont think I'll be posting much there any more, this forum is more to my liking, and nearly everyone here thinks that TW is just tooooo hot. Friends for life.

I must admit that I largely lurk over there myself and I'm an "employee" of sorts but I think there are things of value over there, like the TW picture threads... You have to know which forums to avoid.

Although, the episode forums (where the links to my reviews are posted) tend to get somewhat heated... I tend to not read most posts in there too much.

I've been criticized a time or two for my reviews, but I try to keep my head above the fray because I do love the show so much that I am willing to forgive it lapses here and there...

All in all I must say it's the most enjoyable show of the ones I watch...

I like the idea of the yellow blanket saving Jonathan and Martha, that is really cool.

I'm not sure that makes sense, totally... yeah, it would no doubt protect them from penetrating trauma but would it protect them from blunt trauma?

That wouldn't be such a sure thing....

Where do I find Maria over at DTS. I would love to read the sides.

I read them and they're great, but they don't have the ones that include Clark... I've requested those, btw. ;)

Check 'em out here:

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=218

mmm.... I think I'm up to message number 3, that's 4997 to go. Yeh!!

Yeah! :up:

Welcome to the fold.

This is the best, and least divisive, forum for Smallville around. I think you'll be very happy here, I know I am.

(Giving how much I post here, it's either that or I'm mental... ) ;)

[rumpuso]

mmm.... I think I'm up to message number 3, that's 4997 to go. Yeh!!

I'm still 'traumatized' over the unexplained glitch at KSite about a month back where bunches of posters and mods lost mass amounts of posts. I know I lost over 1000 posts. I suppose it's silly in the whole scheme of things, but I loved the (former) seniority my post count allowed me over there, and now I have less than some people who have only been there a quarter of the time.

Irritating!

But I love KSite and after years of posting there, know which forums are the most fun and which ones only seem to harbor inexplicably and consistently angry people.

Welcome over here, by the way.

Hope you enjoy!

[Zorex]

I'm looking forward to see how the yellow blanket fits into the bigger picture. One of the posters here, Squatlow, predicted that Martha and Jonathan saved themselves when the meteor hit their house by pulling the blanket over their heads and Jason wasn't that lucky LOL. If that is indeed what happens, we all owe Squatlow a cookie for calling it. I guess it's also possible, though not likely, that they may not definitively off Jason just in case Supernatural doesn't take off LOL.

Ooo, that is some very interesting speculation. That'd be awesome to see them introduce the concept that the Kryptonian fabric is, more or less, invincible [if that's the route they go, instead of the "aura" explanation], hinting towards the costume.

Lionel, the wildcard, is going to be AWESOME! Is he good or bad? Who's side is he on? How does his actions effect Lex, if any? Oh, MAN! [Pat foams at the mouth in anticipation.]

This alleged line/lines he has about the two Kryptonians being "disciples of Zod" is enough to get me excited.

Will Clark have to tell Chloe, or will she finally admit to knowing all along. Will they make it humorous with the meteor freak angle, or will Chloe put the pieces together on her own? The plot thickens. I don't think either will spill in the premiere ep, but Clark has some serious 'splainin' to do when he rescues Chloe. Otherwise, she's gonna turn into a blonde snow cone. LOL

God, I hope he finally tells her. And I hope it's emotional. And I really hope they don't continually DRAG it out. Ugh. Either hold it off while making it interesting, or stop beating a dead/dying horse. I don't expect it to happen within the Premiere, but sometime soon after.

Only things about the spoilers that have me a little troubled are Chloe going to college in Metropolis (I don't want her character downplayed like they did with Pete), and this bizarre "love triangle" hinted at between Clark, Lana and Lex. Blech. If they need that kind of angst, I'm sure there are other ways to introduce it.
The triangle? Don't know what to think. Chloe going to college in Metropolis? I'm a little nervous, as I love Chloe and she's, IMO, one of the better characters on the show. I'd hate to see them downplay a good thing.

[mellyM]

Thank you for your welcome, and ditto to being more into it than your kids, although I think my 16 year old, I might just have him.

I think it would be great to have a discussion, epi by epi, that would be really fun. I'll be there for sure.

Welcome Avid:) I'd been wanting to discuss the show like that forever, so bring it on!, I'll be here:)

[avidreader]

"I must admit that I largely lurk over there myself and I'm an "employee" of sorts but I think there are things of value over there, like the TW picture threads... You have to know which forums to avoid."

TW picture thread - I agree, I wont be able to give that one up. I used to like the Speculation Forum, but they just pre-empt so much that it really bugs me.
And of course I'll be there to read the news.

"The triangle? Don't know what to think. Chloe going to college in Metropolis? I'm a little nervous, as I love Chloe and she's, IMO, one of the better characters on the show. I'd hate to see them downplay a good thing."

Now when they have a character that they can take in any direction they want, it works, I think Chloe is everybody's favorite. I sometimes feel sorry for them the way they are restricted with how much they can do with their characters. And everyone seems to either really hate Lana or really love her. There is no in between. (well I'm in between)

"Welcome over here, by the way.

Hope you enjoy!'

Thanks, I typed in the name of the user from Ksite that referred me here, but she must have different name over here. I'll find you. :)

Oh and how do you quote from multiple posts. :confused:

[Serene]

Ooo, that is some very interesting speculation. That'd be awesome to see them introduce the concept that the Kryptonian fabric is, more or less, invincible [if that's the route they go, instead of the "aura" explanation], hinting towards the costume.
"Aura" explanation?

God, I hope he finally tells her. And I hope it's emotional. And I really hope they don't continually DRAG it out. Ugh. Either hold it off while making it interesting, or stop beating a dead/dying horse. I don't expect it to happen within the Premiere, but sometime soon after.
I kinda do expect it to happen in the premiere, then we're set up with the rest of the season for her to know and be able to help him. If she spoilers are correct and Chloe is indeed face-first in the snow (an image that still makes me laugh, btw), then Clark will have to offer more of an explanation than his usual cute shrug. I hope to see her 'fess up and him acknowledge things right there in the snow.

The triangle? Don't know what to think.
I'm really intrigued by it... but of course, I'm the Token Lana Fan around here. :D
I seriously enjoy all the Lex/Clark/Lana interaction already, so I'm curious to see how they handle Lex's feelings about Lana.

Chloe going to college in Metropolis? I'm a little nervous, as I love Chloe and she's, IMO, one of the better characters on the show. I'd hate to see them downplay a good thing.
According to AM when she attended that recent Alzheimer's fundraiser, Chloe's role is not going to be diminished by her going to MetU. Whether or not she's correct about that is anyone's guess. I would expect that Chloe's role would increase rather than decrease now that she's in a position to "help" Clark in ways no one else can because of her knowledge.

Have I mentioned that I'm dying for Season 5 to start?

[Mike_D]

Kneel Before Zod!!!!!!

[AgentPat]

"Aura" explanation?Byrne introduced that new concept with his MOS reboot. It was a way of explaining why Superman wears the skin-tight suit. His body emits an "aura" that protects his clothing just off his skin, so when he fights and whatnot, the suit doesn't get shredded (other than the cape.) It's a post Crisis change to the mythos, which replaces the idea that the suit is made from fabric and material that came from Krypton, giving it the same invulnerable qualities that Superman possesses.

Personally, I prefer the latter. I can't imagine Clark repairing his cape after every battle, because that thing sure does take a beating in the comics LOL. I'm hoping SV ditches the aura angle - they haven't alluded to it yet in their entire four years on the air. It might even be safe to assume they're not going that route in the film either since so much is based off Donner's continuity.

[Happenstance]

Episode #5-2: "Mortal" Tentative Air Date: Sept. 29

New spoilers in yellow posted 7/6/05

Teaser:
- Lex has had Lionel admitted into Belle Reve. He's still in a "Kryptonian trance." The scene sounds like a complete reversal of "Shattered," where Lionel was looking in on Lex. This time, the tables are turned.
- Four armed guards are moving three patients along. There's a "hulking, tattooed badass" named Tommy Lee. He's with a pair of eerily gaunt twins. (Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen maybe? Kidding.)
- Tommy Lee apparently has a power to control electricity flow and uses it to make his escape. The two twins he is with slam their fists together which leads into a white hot glow that fuses them together into a rippling force field. They ask Tommy Lee where their next destination will be. He tells them it will be Smallville.

A little bit later, in Act Two:
- The Kent house is being repaired after the effects of the meteor shower. Half of the walls are stripped to the studs. (Did someone say stripping? It's early Season 4 all over again) This information we have apparently is somewhere around the middle of the scene, because Clark is being tossed into a wall. Lana rushes to him and tells the people who did it to "Stop it!" Reveal the twins and Tommy Lee.
- "You're a legend in Belle Reve," Tommy tells Clark. "Half the freaks are in there because of you," he says, right in front of Lana. Lana asks what he's talking about. Clark claims he's got the wrong guy. Tommy yanks Lana up, holding her by her "porcelain neck." (Their words, not ours) He licks the side of her face, which enrages Clark. Clark heads towards him and Tommy draws power from the exposed wiring to electrocute Clark. Clark goes down, in pain. Tommy and the twins think they have the wrong person.

And in the caves...
- Chloe is down in the caves looking at the symbols on the wall and the damaged altar in the open chamber room. She tries to let go of the memory of being transported across the world in a flash of light.
- The next scene we know of, which is a little later, has Lex talking to Chloe... possibly in the caves. "I think you know more than you're telling me, Chloe," Lex tells her, warning her that she's getting involved in a "dangerous game" by covering up for Clark.
- "Like covering up the spaceship Lana said crashed during the meteor shower?" Chloe retorts. Lex claims Lana was hysterical and didn't know what she was talking about. "Stop asking questions, Lex, or I'll start asking my own," Chloe threatens.

And even later than that...
- Tommy Lee apparently isn't so much of an enemy to Clark anymore, or at least now they're talking rather than throwing each other across the room, because they're talking inside the Kent kitchen. Clark learns that Tommy Lee spent a few weeks inside of Level Three.
- Tommy jokingly refers to the two gaunt twins as "the Wonder Twins."
- Tommy needs Clark to break into Level Three to get him and his friends some kind of "serum." The serum, a "nifty green cocktail," amped up Tommy and the twins' powers, and became addictive. Then, they were moved from Level Three into Belle Reve, and boom, no more cocktails. "If the stories I heard about you are true, you shouldn't have any problem" with getting in, Tommy Lee tells Clark. The Kents approach, and Tommy Lee apparently makes himself scarce.
- Jonathan and Martha return home and find Clark alone. Martha notices Lana's SUV there but doesn't know where she is; Clark says she wasn't feeling well and was laying down. Clark's shirt is inside out - probably from something having to do with the fight with the FOTW's - but it's likely that the Kents think something else was happening there. Clark tries to get his parents to leave and go to the hardware store; when that tactic doesn't work, he tries something else. Seems like he thinks his parents will be in danger.

Taken From Kryptonsite

[Ultimate_Superman]

Byrne introduced that new concept with his MOS reboot. It was a way of explaining why Superman wears the skin-tight suit. His body emits an "aura" that protects his clothing just off his skin, so when he fights and whatnot, the suit doesn't get shredded (other than the cape.) It's a post Crisis change to the mythos, which replaces the idea that the suit is made from fabric and material that came from Krypton, giving it the same invulnerable qualities that Superman possesses.

Personally, I prefer the latter. I can't imagine Clark repairing his cape after every battle, because that thing sure does take a beating in the comics LOL. I'm hoping SV ditches the aura angle - they haven't alluded to it yet in their entire four years on the air. It might even be safe to assume they're not going that route in the film either since so much is based off Donner's continuity.Good Job Pat though what you didn't tell him is that all that aura crap is gone now. When Birthright came out they took away that armor aura crap and made hime how he should be. Though now he can see other peoples aura like to how if you play Star Wars KOTR to tell if they are good or bad; but there is no more aura.

[user123456789]

Episode #5-2: "Mortal" Tentative Air Date: Sept. 29

New spoilers in yellow posted 7/6/05
Clark goes down, in pain. Tommy and the twins think they have the wrong person.



Just when i think Lana finally knows his secret... he goes down in pain??? *sigh... don't tell me they are going to pull another "clark-is-human-and-can-be-harmed-while-lana-witnesses"

a la...

Leech
Fever
Extinction (lead-plate)
Slumber (car accident)
Perry
Whisper
Crisis (time-anamoly my butt)

[AgentPat]

Good Job Pat though what you didn't tell him is that all that aura crap is gone now.[slaps head] Yeah, my bad. But the suit still gets torn up in current comics, so I don't know why they didn't just stick with one interpretation - Kryptonian fabric that's invulnerable, or an aura that protects the suit - so he doesn't wreck it in every bloody comic LOL.

Then again, maybe the whole Clark sans shirt deal isn't just a SV trademark? [shrugs] :D

When Birthright came out they took away that armor aura crap and made him how he should be. Though now he can see other peoples aura like to how if you play Star Wars KOTR to tell if they are good or bad; but there is no more aura.Yeah, he sees a life aura, and it goes black at death, but unlike Star Wars, the color or quality doesn't change with a person's "alignment."

D&D, anybody?

[Rolls dice] Hit!! ;)

<-- GEEK!!

[Ultimate_Superman]

[slaps head] Yeah, my bad. But the suit still gets torn up in current comics, so I don't know why they didn't just stick with one interpretation - Kryptonian fabric that's invulnerable, or an aura that protects the suit - so he doesn't wreck it in every bloody comic LOL.

Then again, maybe the whole Clark sans shirt deal isn't just a SV trademark? [shrugs] :D

Yeah, he sees a life aura, and it goes black at death, but unlike Star Wars, the color or quality doesn't change with a person's "alignment."

D&D, anybody?

[Rolls dice] Hit!! ;)

<-- GEEK!!LOL

[triplet]

"Oh and how do you quote from multiple posts. :confused:

Well, there are a couple of ways to do it.

You can hit the "quote" button below the post you are responding to, or you can use the little quote button in the edit post screen (it looks like a speech bubble) or you can type the word "quote" tag yourself, just spell quote correctly:

[qu*te=avidreader] Oh, and how do you quote from multiple posts. :confused: [/qu*te]

You don't have to use the name of the person in the opening tag, if you don't want to. I tend to type that in if I'm doing multiple quotes, but a lot of people don't.

If you don't want to do that, then you would just type [qu*te] instead...

Oh, and btw: They've got the Clark scene up from the sides... :D :up:

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6512

And they've got the sides up from Mortal too! :D

I'm liking this new thing of them posting the sides... :up:

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=246

[avidreader]

[QUOTE=triplet]Well, there are a couple of ways to do it.

You can hit the "quote" button below the post you are responding to, or you can use the little quote button in the edit post screen (it looks like a speech bubble) or you can type the word "quote" tag yourself, just spell quote correctly:

[qu*te=avidreader] Oh, and how do you quote from multiple posts. :confused: [/qu*te]

You don't have to use the name of the person in the opening tag, if you don't want to. I tend to type that in if I'm doing multiple quotes, but a lot of people don't.

If you don't want to do that, then you would just type [qu*te] instead...

Thanks for your help, I'll try and experiment a little later.

I just read the Mortal sides. That episode sounds awesome (do you guys still use that word, my 14 year old says "you dont say that anymore".

I'll go back and read the Clark sides. I found it to be more interesting to actually read the sides that someone elses interpretation of the sides.

[triplet]

Well, there are a couple of ways to do it.

You can hit the "quote" button below the post you are responding to, or you can use the little quote button in the edit post screen (it looks like a speech bubble) or you can type the word "quote" tag yourself, just spell quote correctly:

[qu*te=avidreader] Oh, and how do you quote from multiple posts. :confused: [/qu*te]

You don't have to use the name of the person in the opening tag, if you don't want to. I tend to type that in if I'm doing multiple quotes, but a lot of people don't.

If you don't want to do that, then you would just type [qu*te] instead...

Thanks for your help, I'll try and experiment a little later.

Just hit the quote button for a post you want to reply to and REALLY look at the text of the quotes... I think you'll see what I was talking about. Once you know how it works, it's easy....

I just read the Mortal sides. That episode sounds awesome (do you guys still use that word, my 14 year old says "you dont say that anymore".

I'll go back and read the Clark sides. I found it to be more interesting to actually read the sides that someone elses interpretation of the sides.

Yep, my thoughts exactly.

I'm a writer, though, and I love reading scripts. I have about 10 Smallville scripts that I've gotten online (I don't want to think about how much they cost me... ;) ) and it's great fun to read the original script.

The sides are fascinating to go back and reread after you've seen the ep, too. (I had seen some sides from last year's episodes up through Recruit when my source dried up... :( )

What they decide to leave as opposed to what gets cut can be very enlightening on the process of filming a TV show.

[Serene]

[Thanks for your help, I'll try and experiment a little later.

I just read the Mortal sides. That episode sounds awesome (do you guys still use that word, my 14 year old says "you dont say that anymore".

I'll go back and read the Clark sides. I found it to be more interesting to actually read the sides that someone elses interpretation of the sides.

Since your last message didn't quote correctly, I'm assuming there's still a little confusion. :)

Everything you want quoted has to be preceeded by a [q uote] and end in a [/q uote] (without the space I put b/w the q and u)

You can use [q uote=NAME] at the beginning if you want to indicate who you are quoting, but that's not always necessary.

Any clearer? The QUOTE button at the bottom of every post box will automatically put the whole post in quotes.. and you can just delete what you don't want. Then you can add quotes from other posts within that same reply by adding the [q uote] things again.

[Hush]

Hey guys and gals k-site has put up new spoilers to the second ep of season 5 it sounds cool to me. I pretty much love every ep of smallville though so who knows it could be lame to you.

[Mike_D]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/zodhogan.jpg

Kneel before Zod, BROTHHHHEERRR!!!!!!!!

-Mike

[avidreader]

Thanks for your help on the quoting guys. I was in a bit of a hurry before, so no I didnt take the time to do the quoting properly.

I knew how to quote an entire post, but I liked the way you guys quoted different paragraphs from several posts and put them in those neat boxes. It makes the whole post so much easier to read. :)

I really do appreciate it.

Triplet, you got actual scripts from several episodes. How cool is that?

[triplet]

Yeah, I do. You can buy them from several different places online... they all basically have the same inventory, but there is some variety from place to place.

There are almost no third and fourth season scripts, I've only found Memoria, Crusade and Devoted, but the first two seasons have a much better assortment available...

They usually cost about $10 plus shipping.

A couple of places even have the storyboards for Ryan, but I'm not sure what that gets you so I didn't buy those...

I like the episode, but it's not one of my favorites like Memoria is.

[avidreader]

Yeah, I do. You can buy them from several different places online... they all basically have the same inventory, but there is some variety from place to place.

Any hints where to find them, or do you just type into Google Smallville Scripts.

Yay, my quoting worked. :)

[triplet]

Well, I use Hollywood Book and Poster (http://www.hollywoodbookandposter.com/).

They're willing to answer questions and seem to have the the best selection, I believe, but you have to call or email them to get the list of eps they have....

There's also Script City (http://www.scriptcity.com/) and Book City... (http://www.bookcity.net/tv-scripts.php?f=1&t=1&q=smallville&x=0) Script City's online database totally sucks, it's very hard to search but Book City's is easy... :D

Oooh, Book City has Slumber and Shattered... I just may have to get those. Third season scripts are few and far between and they have different drafts of some scripts.... Cool.

Writer Geek pay dirt! ;)

[DarkKnightJRK]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/zodhogan.jpg

Kneel before Zod, BROTHHHHEERRR!!!!!!!!

-Mike

HAHAHAHAHA!!! God, I'm laughing so hard, my balls hurt.

Still a Hulkamanic, brother. :cool::up:

[Hush]

Im confused by this thread????? lol It says season 5 spoilers i mention there are new ones at K-site and its ignored lol i think this thread has veered far off course from which it was destined. lol i dont care just thought id say it agian even though there's now a thread on theses spoilers that could be merged with this one.

[avidreader]

Well, I use Hollywood Book and Poster (http://www.hollywoodbookandposter.com/).

They're willing to answer questions and seem to have the the best selection, I believe, but you have to call or email them to get the list of eps they have....

There's also Script City (http://www.scriptcity.com/) and Book City... (http://www.bookcity.net/tv-scripts.php?f=1&t=1&q=smallville&x=0) Script City's online database totally sucks, it's very hard to search but Book City's is easy... :D

Oooh, Book City has Slumber and Shattered... I just may have to get those. Third season scripts are few and far between and they have different drafts of some scripts.... Cool.

Writer Geek pay dirt! ;)

I found Smallville at Script City very easily. Just typed in Smallville and a whole host of them came up. Have you used them before, I hope they're realistic, oh well they were only $10 each, that wont break the bank too much.

Thanks for the info triplet.

[Sioux]

[QUOTE=avidreader
Thanks, I typed in the name of the user from Ksite that referred me here, but she must have different name over here. I'll find you. :) [/QUOTE]



Hi Avidreader! Glad you found the site. I'm the one who referred you here, and yes, my name has changed. I had so many problems trying to initially sign on in the Kryptonsite that I finally just used another server site (and therefore, had to change my name). Actually, I'm about to get a cable hook-up, and I'm afraid I may have to change my name again! Geez!

Anyway, if you have time - definitely spool through the "Tom Welling Should Have Been Superman" thread and the "Tom Welling" thread - very interesting - and yes, it will take a looong while, but it's a great read.

Anyway, as to Season Five - I'm actually trying to avoid the spoilers, but from the little I have read, it sounds like the Season Premiere for Season Five will be a lot of action - which is great. I just hope they center this next season more around the character of Clark Kent. There were too many characters on last year's canvas (although I really liked Season Four).

With regard to the possible "triangle" between Clark/Lex/Lana: If anyone knows how much Clark adores Lana, it's Lex. As a result, since he doesn't know about Kryponite being poison to Clark, Lana is the next best method of weakening Clark in some capacity. Clark is "vunerable" to Lana, and Lex knows it. Afterall, Lex is the one who initially brought Clark and Lana together. All Lex has to do is put Lana in somewhat dangerous situations and see what Clark does to get her out of it. He knows Clark is different, but he wants proof. He wants to see it with his own eyes, and Lana is a great way to force Clark to reveal himself. So when tptb say "triangle," it might not necessarily mean a "love triangle." Just a thought.

[avidreader]

Hi Avidreader! Glad you found the site. I'm the one who referred you here, and yes, my name has changed. I had so many problems trying to initially sign on in the Kryptonsite that I finally just used another server site (and therefore, had to change my name). Actually, I'm about to get a cable hook-up, and I'm afraid I may have to change my name again! Geez!

Well I'm glad I found you, thank you so much for referring me here. You were right, the people here are much friendlier and a little more mature which prevents the discussions from getting to be a "because I said so" type of discussion.

Anyway, if you have time - definitely spool through the "Tom Welling Should Have Been Superman" thread and the "Tom Welling" thread - very interesting - and yes, it will take a looong while, but it's a great read.

Maybe I'll go through it one night when I'm having trouble sleeping:)

With regard to the possible "triangle" between Clark/Lex/Lana: If anyone knows how much Clark adores Lana, it's Lex. As a result, since he doesn't know about Kryponite being poison to Clark, Lana is the next best method of weakening Clark in some capacity. Clark is "vunerable" to Lana, and Lex knows it. Afterall, Lex is the one who initially brought Clark and Lana together. All Lex has to do is put Lana in somewhat dangerous situations and see what Clark does to get her out of it. He knows Clark is different, but he wants proof. He wants to see it with his own eyes, and Lana is a great way to force Clark to reveal himself. So when tptb say "triangle," it might not necessarily mean a "love triangle." Just a thought.

You're absolutely right:up: ... I didnt for one moment believe that they would go down the path of Lana and Lex ever being an item, it just would not make any sense to either character.

[phoephoe]

With regard to the possible "triangle" between Clark/Lex/Lana: If anyone knows how much Clark adores Lana, it's Lex. As a result, since he doesn't know about Kryponite being poison to Clark, Lana is the next best method of weakening Clark in some capacity. Clark is "vunerable" to Lana, and Lex knows it. Afterall, Lex is the one who initially brought Clark and Lana together. All Lex has to do is put Lana in somewhat dangerous situations and see what Clark does to get her out of it. He knows Clark is different, but he wants proof. He wants to see it with his own eyes, and Lana is a great way to force Clark to reveal himself. So when tptb say "triangle," it might not necessarily mean a "love triangle." Just a thought.

I was thinking this exactly. I just don't see it as a romantic triangle as much as Lex may seem to befriend Lana to use her in some way to Lure Clark.

With the past Lex and Lana have had, I highly doubt that Lana could possibly fall in love with him. If it were the case that she trusted him she would have trusted to keep the stone in Commencement as opposed to taking it to Clark. And I've assumed that he's in his late 20's early 30's. I dont know how old he's supposed to be but I imagine he's atleast 10 years older than Lana. I just don't see it happening.

And I completely agree with you saying that is the logical way for Lana to find out. Clark would have to do something incredible with out Lex seeing and at the same time getting him, Lana or both away from the situation.

[DrVenkman90]

Another hit and a miss by the crappy smallvile writers who could have putten someone so much cooler in the ship.

[avidreader]

With the past Lex and Lana have had, I highly doubt that Lana could possibly fall in love with him. If it were the case that she trusted him she would have trusted to keep the stone in Commencement as opposed to taking it to Clark. And I've assumed that he's in his late 20's early 30's. I dont know how old he's supposed to be but I imagine he's atleast 10 years older than Lana. I just don't see it happening.


Lex is only 6 years older than the rest of the gang.

[Flash48]

How do you know hes 6 years older?

[Zues4Life]

So he's in his late 20's then?

[Zues4Life]

This episode is gonna rock!I can't wait until September 22nd!

[triplet]

According to the Pilot script, Lex was 21... so he'd be like 26 now... I think Rosenbaum is actually 32....

[DrVenkman90]

cool

[LL2K2]

According to the Pilot script, Lex was 21... so he'd be like 26 now... I think Rosenbaum is actually 32....

Well, as a matter of fact, he turns 33 tomorrow...;)

[DrVenkman90]

woah happy brithday for him

[triplet]

Well, as a matter of fact, he turns 33 tomorrow...;)

Well, there ya go...

Happy Birthday to Michael!


http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/bday_large.gif

[AgentPat]

Well, as a matter of fact, he turns 33 tomorrow...;)Heh. It's gotta suck starting back up on your first day of work after a long summer off on your freakin' BIRTHDAY. Ouch. But maybe they'll make a party out of it. It is a big reunion day, after all.

[user123456789]

happy birthday michael


btw: they start shooting again today?

[mellyM]

Heh. It's gotta suck starting back up on your first day of work after a long summer off on your freakin' BIRTHDAY. Ouch. But maybe they'll make a party out of it. It is a big reunion day, after all.

I'm sure his work place is a happier place than most people's :)

[AgentPat]

btw: they start shooting again today?Yup! Today is Day One for the fifth season. Rosey might not even be needed on set today - that's anybody's guess - but SV is back in business as of today. :D

[jas01724]

I'd be doubtful that any of the main cast members are back yet, although it's possible. The reason I say that is that the actors don't usually start until a week or two after the crews get back to work setting everything up. The official start last year was something like the 13th, but the actors weren't there until around the 20th.

[AgentPat]

I'd be doubtful that any of the main cast members are back yet, although it's possible. The reason I say that is that the actors don't usually start until a week or two after the crews get back to work setting everything up. The official start last year was something like the 13th, but the actors weren't there until around the 20th.:up:

Even Welling wasn't needed till the second or third day of actual principal for the 3rd season. At least that's according to Beeman on the commentary track for Exile.

[avidreader]

John Glover said in his interview, that he had to be back on set for the 11th.

[DrVenkman90]

I love John Glover

[Serene]

Yup! Today is Day One for the fifth season. Rosey might not even be needed on set today - that's anybody's guess - but SV is back in business as of today. :D

yay!

that's all. :)

[DrVenkman90]

i want the one kid back

[triplet]

yeah! It begins again!

:D

[avidreader]

i want the one kid back

Who's the kid??

[HULK LOVER]

season 5 Will be the best one yet

[DrVenkman90]

the fourth one was probally the best ever because the writers did okay but this time it is going to suck

[triplet]

Why do you think it's going to suck? And what kid were you talking about before?

[DrVenkman90]

The writers could of put anyone in that ship and they put nobody that sucks. The kid is that one guy who can read minds.

[AgentPat]

...The kid is that one guy who can read minds.Psst... that character is dead. ;)

Love your handle, btw. :up:

[triplet]

The writers could of put anyone in that ship and they put nobody that sucks. The kid is that one guy who can read minds.

Yeah, Pat's right: he's dead... (It was a Season 2 ep, Ryan).

I think we're lucky features/DC Comics finally relented on the "no kryptonians" rule that they had imposed upon Smallville up 'til now.

So many fans had complained of Clark not getting real super villains to battle, so I would think this would make most fans happy...

So what if it's not Zod or whoever? A power hungry Kryptonian would present Clark with a lot of obstacles to overcome, no matter what his name is. (And Nam-Ek is a name from the comic books, if you weren't aware...)

In any case, they'll have an epic battle that will no doubt be exciting and give Clark some real conflict on a personal level as well, never having met another real Kryptonian.

I think it's brilliant, personally. But I'm a softie when it comes to this kinda thing... ;) :D

As long as Clark is being Supermanly, I'm happy.

[avidreader]

I think we're lucky features/DC Comics finally relented on the "no kryptonians" rule that they had imposed upon Smallville up 'til now.

So many fans had complained of Clark not getting real super villains to battle, so I would think this would make most fans happy...

So what if it's not Zod or whoever? A power hungry Kryptonian would present Clark with a lot of obstacles to overcome, no matter what his name is. (And Nam-Ek is a name from the comic books, if you weren't aware...)

In any case, they'll have an epic battle that will no doubt be exciting and give Clark some real conflict on a personal level as well, never having met another real Kryptonian.
As long as Clark is being Supermanly, I'm happy.

Yeh, I'm really pumped for this episode. What will his reaction be when he finds out that there are other Kryptonians, even tho they have been banished to a place outside of our normal realm of life (i.e. another dimension) and will that inspire memories from his time in the supposed "phantom zone" between Season 3 and 4.

[AgentPat]

...As long as Clark is being Supermanly, I'm happy.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

[triplet]

Yeh, I'm really pumped for this episode. What will his reaction be when he finds out that there are other Kryptonians, even tho they have been banished to a place outside of our normal realm of life (i.e. another dimension) and will that inspire memories from his time in the supposed "phantom zone" between Season 3 and 4.

Interesting idea, I hadn't thought of that.

You know, Tom did say that Clark remembered everything from the time he was Kal-el in an interview, but it wasn't clear whether he'd meant that as well...

I would love to know what he remembers from that, if anything.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

We may disagree on many things in regards to SV, but on Clark's Supermanliness I know we will always agree...

(I thought you'd like that comment! :D )

[avidreader]

Interesting idea, I hadn't thought of that.

You know, Tom did say that Clark remembered everything from the time he was Kal-el in an interview, but it wasn't clear whether he'd meant that as well...

I would love to know what he remembers from that, if anything.


Yeh, they never readdressed that. And like you recommended I bought a copy of the Crusade Script, and some of the sides to it were very interesting. There were some lines cut out at the end in the hospital scene which really had me thinking.

[triplet]

Yeh, they never readdressed that. And like you recommended I bought a copy of the Crusade Script, and some of the sides to it were very interesting. There were some lines cut out at the end in the hospital scene which really had me thinking.

Yep, good read....

You learn a lot, even if it doesn't hold true though out the season (like Jason's dad becoming a lawyer later - instead of a stock broker, when you read the original script.

I had started a thread (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152579) on that a while back, actually. :D

[AgentPat]

We may disagree on many things in regards to SV, but on Clark's Supermanliness I know we will always agree...Absopuckinlutely!!

Some things just shouldn't be debated. That one is at the top of the list. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

[triplet]

Absopuckinlutely!!

Some things just shouldn't be debated. That one is at the top of the list. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Yup...

:D

[Serene]

We may disagree on many things in regards to SV, but on Clark's Supermanliness I know we will always agree...
Some things just shouldn't be debated. That one is at the top of the list. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Me three. :D

[DrVenkman90]

Me Four!!!!

[avidreader]

Me Five!

[spiderbob]

ME SIX!!!



...



um..what am I agreeing to?

[AgentPat]

ME SIX!!!



...



um..what am I agreeing to?Don't sweat it. You're in good company if you agree. Just nod and smile. ;)

[avidreader]

ME SIX!!!



...



um..what am I agreeing to?

:D :D :D :D :D :D

too funny, I love that sort of humour.

[DrVenkman90]

me two, three and four

[Brian Braddock]

Has Bizarro somehow gotten on to the boards? Me think so....:)

[Flash48]

How do you all think Clark will stop the 2 kryptonians in this episode?

[user123456789]

is it sept 22 yet?

[AgentPat]

Well, spoilers for the third episode (http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm) are now up at K-Site. Sounds like a great episode...





...'cept for one small detail: Clark is STILL sans powers. WTF?! :mad: :(

[triplet]

WTF? Clark is still without his powers?

Dammit.... I hope it doesn't last much longer. He's supposed to be superman in training!

:sigh:

:(

[mellyM]

I didn't even realize he lost his powers..I need to pay more attention. Ok..is it really twisted of me to squeee because he gets shot??...is it?? probably, right?

[AgentPat]

WTF? Clark is still without his powers?

Dammit.... I hope it doesn't last much longer. He's supposed to be superman in training!Exactly! Gah!

And not fer nuthin'... but that's why I watch the show. It's about a [phenomenally gorgeous] guy who has powers and abilities beyond those of mortal men and who goes on to become the greatest hero of all time: Superman.

[triplet]

There's going to be some good TC.. You're right, melly! We should look on the bright side!

LOL!

Yeah, for all the TC lovers! (If you don't know what TC is, then maybe you shouldn't ask... ;) )

:D

:up:

[mellyM]

Well its just the 3rd episode and they'll have 19 more to tackle that and being Superman isn't just about his powers, he's had those for awhile. I'm sure we'll see growth of a different kind, the most important kind during these eps.

[triplet]

And here I thought you were a TC fan... ;)

[AgentPat]

Ok..is it really twisted of me to squeee because he gets shot??...is it?? probably, right?Nah. If it means he has to take his shirt off again, it's all good. Any excuse for them to poke and probe a shirtless Clark is A-Okay in my book. :up: :D

[Serene]

Nah. If it means he has to take his shirt off again, it's all good. Any excuse for them to poke and probe a shirtless Clark is A-Okay in my book. :up: :D
Yeah.. and he makes those really great Clark-in-pain faces... at least it's supposed to be pain, a few of them are open to interpretation.

heh heh..;)

[triplet]

^^ LOL! Why do you think TC is so much fun? ;)

[mellyM]

And here I thought you were a TC fan... ;)

Oh I am :D

I can't wait til the season starts..how does he lose his powers?

[AgentPat]

Yeah.. and he makes those really great Clark-in-pain faces... at least it's supposed to be pain, a few of them are open to interpretation.

heh heh..;)*ahem* ....

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