The Official Rogue/Anna X3 Thread

[gap5ewl]

Since Anna Paquin is the only cast member who hasn't said anything on her status on X3 and Rogue having a intersting role in the movie, I thought it would be appropriate to make an official thread concerning everyone's favorite southern belle. Post you thoughts/ News on Paquin returing to X3 as well as Rogue's role and anything in between.

[Lisea]

I think there's been at least three of these.

[Almighty Pejo]

I think, due to the fact that there is never any news regarding Anna and Rogue, all the threads made for her fade away. Plus, so few people realize there's a "search" function and you can go back through pages on the forums to look for older threads.

At any rate, I just hope she has a touch more attitude and a bit less damsel this time around. It was improved upon slightly from X-Men to X2, so it should further continue. Now, I certainly don't want her wearing butt floss and a tied off shirt, flying around, throwing boulders and tanks and going all "Sugah, ah wanna' go to the fish fry! What in tarnation are y'all doin' in heeuh? Grits!" and stuff. Although, saying tarnation just once might be a good thing. ;)

[gap5ewl]

no i searched and all i found was rogue and iceman roles in x3 so i think its appropriate right now

[Manic]

"Sugah, ah wanna' go to the fish fry! What in tarnation are y'all doin' in heeuh? Grits!"
LOL

I remember laughing my ear off when I would watch the 90s cartoon when I was younger. Rogue had some of the funniest and wackiest dialogue, next to Storm whenever she got going. I wouldn't mind if Anna played the character with a little more sass, but let's be honest-- no teenager today, no matter how Southern, talks like Rogue used to in that cartoon (and sometimes in the comics, years back). I think Britney Spears' country-fried self is proof of that.

[NocturnalMadman]

"What in the world?!"

I think Rogue said that like, every other episode!

I'd kill to hear it in X3 haha

[Avalanche]

At any rate, I just hope she has a touch more attitude and a bit less damsel this time around. It was improved upon slightly from X-Men to X2, so it should further continue. Now, I certainly don't want her wearing butt floss and a tied off shirt, flying around, throwing boulders and tanks and going all "Sugah, ah wanna' go to the fish fry! What in tarnation are y'all doin' in heeuh? Grits!" and stuff. Although, saying tarnation just once might be a good thing. ;)
She could do with a little more sass. I understand why they made her character as it is in the films. They're following the early years. The years were Rogue is only getting to grips with who she is as a person. Hopefully in X3 she'll be a little more confident in herself, though to be honest, the whole Bobby/Kitty storyline sounds as though it would hurt her confidence more.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

She could do with a little more sass. I understand why they made her character as it is in the films. They're following the early years. The years were Rogue is only getting to grips with who she is as a person. Hopefully in X3 she'll be a little more confident in herself, though to be honest, the whole Bobby/Kitty storyline sounds as though it would hurt her confidence more.

Or, it could piss her off, hence she starts hanging around the Brotherhood.

While in the Brotherhood, she might find some "not so great" influences to start hanging around with, like them damn Cajun scoundrels that are always causing trouble. Them Cajuns would be a pretty bad influence on her, and could very well give her a bit more sass.

[ljr]

That's what i'm thinking,in x-3 your going to see a more pissed off and kick ass rogue,she'll want to work off her frustrations somehow.

[psylockolussus]

Im hoping she will be stronger and could carry heavy things like cars and trucks.

[NocturnalMadman]

*Groan*

It's the same old thing on every forum I go to...

Sure she isn't the flying, invulnerable, OTT, southern twanged Rogue from the 90's but then go look at Ultimate Rogue. Or X-Men Evolution Rogue...

Anna does a perfect job of portraying an entirely NEW version of Rogue. It's time people started accepting that the movies are only BASED on the stories and characters from the comics

I also think that Anna is perfeclty attractive, despite a lot of people on several forums bashing her looks.

[The Schwab]

I love Anna. Anna Anna Anna. I want to Marry her. She goes out with a loser. She goes out with that Tray from the OC. GRR.

[green]

*Groan*

It's the same old thing on every forum I go to...

Sure she isn't the flying, invulnerable, OTT, southern twanged Rogue from the 90's but then go look at Ultimate Rogue. Or X-Men Evolution Rogue...

Anna does a perfect job of portraying an entirely NEW version of Rogue. It's time people started accepting that the movies are only BASED on the stories and characters from the comics

I also think that Anna is perfeclty attractive, despite a lot of people on several forums bashing her looks.

I agree.
Anna is definately growing up wellhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/anna-paquin04.jpg.

[spark627]

i recently saw her in after ashley, an off broadway show, and she looks gorgeous. she has lost all baby fat and looks amazing. i think she is great as rogue and i think this time around we will see more of the rogue we know and love.

[JP]

i recently saw her in after ashley, an off broadway show, and she looks gorgeous. she has lost all baby fat and looks amazing. i think she is great as rogue and i think this time around we will see more of the rogue we know and love.


Wait... shes in After Ashley? You know how many times I pass bye that, EVERY day! My school even gave out free tickets one day and I declined. *****!!

[spark627]

yep she was, its over now. it was a good show

[Fray Ok]

I think, due to the fact that there is never any news regarding Anna and Rogue, all the threads made for her fade away. Plus, so few people realize there's a "search" function and you can go back through pages on the forums to look for older threads.

At any rate, I just hope she has a touch more attitude and a bit less damsel this time around. It was improved upon slightly from X-Men to X2, so it should further continue. Now, I certainly don't want her wearing butt floss and a tied off shirt, flying around, throwing boulders and tanks and going all "Sugah, ah wanna' go to the fish fry! What in tarnation are y'all doin' in heeuh? Grits!" and stuff. Although, saying tarnation just once might be a good thing. ;)

lol.I think youve become my favorite poster.

[Fray Ok]

*Groan*

It's the same old thing on every forum I go to...

Sure she isn't the flying, invulnerable, OTT, southern twanged Rogue from the 90's but then go look at Ultimate Rogue. Or X-Men Evolution Rogue...

Anna does a perfect job of portraying an entirely NEW version of Rogue. It's time people started accepting that the movies are only BASED on the stories and characters from the comics

I also think that Anna is perfeclty attractive, despite a lot of people on several forums bashing her looks.


I'd prefer to see something similar to evolution Rogue.Angry,detached,bold,and confident in her use of powers.It's not as if RogueAnna is absorbing their memories as well.

[the a1ant]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/a1ant/untitled.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/a1ant/rogue.bmp

[cheungcheung]

wow. she looks great...

rogue and iceman better still be full fledged team members in X3...

[Almighty Pejo]

lol.I think youve become my favorite poster.LOL Glad to hear it! :D

[moonstar]

Or, it could piss her off, hence she starts hanging around the Brotherhood.

While in the Brotherhood, she might find some "not so great" influences to start hanging around with, like them damn Cajun scoundrels that are always causing trouble. Them Cajuns would be a pretty bad influence on her, and could very well give her a bit more sass.

Well i hope she explores the powers of the dark side - joins the brotherhood -steals powers from Ms. Marvel (aka Carol Danvers)who'd be played in a cameo by Gwyeth Paltrow. hangs out with an older hottie Remy ( Oliver Martinez or Jonathan Reyes Meyers please)and starts talkin'bout how she really needs some southern fried chicken.

This would be funny as hell and I'm sure will send Bobby's horny butt in the other direction -toward shadowcat who I hope gets played by Emmy Rossum or Rachel Bilson. This will be much more interesting than having all the teens be wannab hero dogooders...Nuff said!

Good Luck Brett your gonna need it!

[Manic]

Well i hope she explores the powers of the dark side - joins the brotherhood -steals powers from Ms. Marvel (aka Carol Danvers)who'd be played in a cameo by Gwyeth Paltrow. hangs out with an older hottie Remy ( Oliver Martinez or Jonathan Reyes Meyers please)and starts talkin'bout how she really needs some southern fried chicken.

This would be funny as hell and I'm sure will send Bobby's horny butt in the other direction -toward shadowcat who I hope gets played by Emmy Rossum or Rachel Bilson. This will be much more interesting than having all the teens be wannab hero dogooders...Nuff said!

Good Luck Brett your gonna need it!
*starts to say something*

*stops himself*

[Avalanche]

Sure she isn't the flying, invulnerable, OTT, southern twanged Rogue from the 90's but then go look at Ultimate Rogue. Or X-Men Evolution Rogue...
Even X-Men Evolution Rogue has a good deal more to her though. Now, I'm not desperate to see Rogue flying around and such, but I would like to see her a touch more offensive. More in touch with her powers. In Evolution she used them in a much more offensive manner, and I'd like to see that in X3.

The problem is, movie Rogue appears to need to hold onto her 'victim' if she is to use their power. This limits the usefulness of stealing an opponent's power if you're right next to them.

[NocturnalMadman]

Yeah I know what you mean, it's unbelievable how long she held onto pyro when putting out his flames yet he wasn't even particularly weakened afterwards where as Wolverine was knocked flat out cold and nearly killed...

Same thing when she kissed Iceman, it just shocked him wheras "Cody" (or whatever they called her boyfriend in the first movie, it wasn't Cody, who knows why...talk about not doing your research!) was put into a coma...

[the a1ant]

Maybe she just has greater control over her powers now? :confused:

[Fray Ok]

Well i hope she explores the powers of the dark side - joins the brotherhood -steals powers from Ms. Marvel (aka Carol Danvers)who'd be played in a cameo by Gwyeth Paltrow. hangs out with an older hottie Remy ( Oliver Martinez or Jonathan Reyes Meyers please)and starts talkin'bout how she really needs some southern fried chicken.

This would be funny as hell and I'm sure will send Bobby's horny butt in the other direction -toward shadowcat who I hope gets played by Emmy Rossum or Rachel Bilson. This will be much more interesting than having all the teens be wannab hero dogooders...Nuff said!

Good Luck Brett your gonna need it!


Maybe you should hope for something thats plausible.

[duo_gabo]

i'll just wait until the movie comes out... but still, i love spoilers but for me as long as i have not see it in actual film, i still regard a spoiler as a rumor... hehehehe

and i think i made my own rogue/anna thread way back... i think it's gone... hehehe...

[Electrix]

Well when she got Wolverine she was either knocked out or bleeding so she needed the 'life'. With Pyro she was physically fit and didnt need the life....thing.

I wonder if she still has Pyro's memories in her head somewhere...

[duo_gabo]

let's just wait till the movie comes out hehehhe...

[spark627]

i think it is interesting that rogue is meeting with the brotherhood, at least they are giving her some history with them. maybe instead of the ms marvel powers they will give her the new fire powers she recently stole (and kept)

[duo_gabo]

maybe they'd stick to the x-men evolution kind of character of rogue...

[Mistopurr83]

maybe they'd stick to the x-men evolution kind of character of rogue...

Even X-Men Evolution's Rogue is more accurate to her comic-self. Basically Evo showed us how Rogue really was before she got Ms. Marvel's powers.

[JP]

Basically Evo showed us how Rogue really was before she got Ms. Marvel's powers.

A goth?

[Electrix]

I girl who was scared and confused but then turned into a girl who doesnt stand for no crap. She doesnt need superstrength and flight to be Rogue.

[JP]

Amen.

[Mistopurr83]

A goth?

Yeah she looked like a goth in green in the early 80's (when with the brotherhood).

[JP]

LOL, true.

[Mistopurr83]

I girl who was scared and confused but then turned into a girl who doesnt stand for no crap. She doesnt need superstrength and flight to be Rogue.

Oh so does Jean Grey not have to turn into Pheonix to be more powerful??? When you say Rogue doesn't need her other powers that's like saying Jean Grey doesn't need to become Phoenix.

[NocturnalMadman]

But "becoming more powerful" isn't what the Phoenix trasformation is about is it?

Are you saying that Jean needs to become the Phoenix in order to truely be Jean Grey?

That's a ridiculous comparison

[JP]

The Phoenix is who Jean Grey is.

Super Human strength is not who Rogue is.

[NocturnalMadman]

"The Phoenix" isn't Jean Grey...

Phoenix is merely a codename, and the Phoenix Force is an entirely different entity. Sure she still posesses it but I don't believe it defines who she is as a person.

Look at her in the comics pre Phoenix encounter. In the films so far. and in Evolution. I still don't know why they felt the need to rush Phoenix into things in Ultimate X-Men.

The only reason it is forgiveable in the movie verse is 'cos it sets up a great plot device

[X-Maniac]

The only reason it is forgiveable in the movie verse is 'cos it sets up a great plot device

No, that's not really it at all. Jean Grey was Marvel Girl in the comics for about 10 years and hundreds of issues of the X-Men before she became Phoenix in the 70s. We can't wait for hundreds of movies before she becomes Phoenix. Things have to be compressed into a smaller timeframe or you'd be dead by the time it got round to being included in a movie!

[Mistopurr83]

The Phoenix is who Jean Grey is.

No the Phoenix is NOT who Jean Grey is. Jean Grey was Marvel Girl before she became Phoenix and "Marvel Girl" is something else the movies have not included about Jean. Also, don't forget in the original source material (otherwise in reality) Phoenix was not the manifestation of Jean's powers, Jean was possesed by the Phoenix while on a space shuttle.

[Genosha]

To be honest, in some ways I like what they have done with movie Rogue as opposed to her comic-book counterpart. I'm kind of glad that she hasn't absorbed all this super-strength and flight abilities like she has in the comic.

It would be cool to see onscreen, but I just don't think it would fit movie Rogue all that well. I think they should continue with this story arch they have built where Rogue really feels trapped by her powers. Out of all the X-Men she seems to be the one who least embraces her powers. ANd she is definitly the most reluctant to use them.

I'm just afraid that if they give her all of her comic-book powers, then we would lose that invulnerability that her character has been so good at representing in the movies:

Not all mutants are born with "really cool powers."

[Mistopurr83]

To be honest, in some ways I like what they have done with movie Rogue as opposed to her comic-book counterpart. I'm kind of glad that she hasn't absorbed all this super-strength and flight abilities like she has in the comic.

It would be cool to see onscreen, but I just don't think it would fit movie Rogue all that well. I think they should continue with this story arch they have built where Rogue really feels trapped by her powers. Out of all the X-Men she seems to be the one who least embraces her powers. ANd she is definitly the most reluctant to use them.

I'm just afraid that if they give her all of her comic-book powers, then we would lose that invulnerability that her character has been so good at representing in the movies:

Not all mutants are born with "really cool powers."


Oh so you wanna continue watching her portrayed as a useless wimp who just stands in the back and whines like a baby?!

[NocturnalMadman]

That might be how you see her but her reaction to Magneto after he makes the quip about her hair didn't make ME think she was a wimp AT ALL.

Oh and one more thing, ONE LAST TIME: She doesn't even HAVE the powers of strength and invulnerability in the comics anymore!!!

She has flight and FIERY powers!!

So are we gonna get people piling in and saying she should absorb Phoenix in the movie and get fire powers next?! Jeezus

[Mistopurr83]

That might be how you see her but her reaction to Magneto after he makes the quip about her hair didn't make ME think she was a wimp AT ALL.

Oh and one more thing, ONE LAST TIME: She doesn't even HAVE the powers of strength and invulnerability in the comics anymore!!!

She has flight and FIERY powers!!

So are we gonna get people piling in and saying she should absorb Phoenix in the movie and get fire powers next?! Jeezus

No that look she gave Magneto doesn't count. Besides she acted like a wimp after landing the x-jet wrong.
I AM WELL AWARE ROGUE PERMANATELY ABSORBED SUNFIRE IN THE COMICS!!!!!!!!!!!! But she had Ms. Marvel's powers for 20+ years. That's why fans are saying she should get those powers on screen first. Absorbing Sunfire permanately was done instead of giving her back the other powers. The author of the Rogue solo series said so!
You also say Rogue doens't have strength and invulnerability anymore. Gee I thought the movies were NOT the comics here. The movies are suppost to be showing how Rogue was before she got the other powers but their not b/c they've portrayed her ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Manic]

Hold on. Why is it when Rogue gives Magneto a dirty look and gets ready to attack him, it doesn't count and she's still a wimp?

Oh, and heaven forbid she'd be deathly afraid of crashing the jet after nearly free-falling to her death the previous day...

[CASHMERE]

Hold on. Why is it when Rogue gives Magneto a dirty look and gets ready to attack him, it doesn't count and she's still a wimp?

Oh, and heaven forbid she'd be deathly afraid of crashing the jet after nearly free-falling to her death the previous day...

Oh please! did you not see magneto's face. hello movie Rogue won't stand a chance to movie magneto did she forget that she's in a steel plane.

I've said this before and im going to say it again.. Wolverine got is second powers well sort of. Now Jean is getting Phoenix. I want Supergirl ROGUE and be the "muscle" in fights just like she was in the cartoons. Rogue was my favorite character but i've totally forgotten about her in the movie.

[Manic]

Oh please! did you not see magneto's face. hello movie Rogue won't stand a chance to movie magneto did she forget that she's in a steel plane.

I've said this before and im going to say it again.. Wolverine got is second powers well sort of. Now Jean is getting Phoenix. I want Supergirl ROGUE and be the "muscle" in fights just like she was in the cartoons. Rogue was my favorite character but i've totally forgotten about her in the movie.
So losing her fear of Magneto doesn't count? She has to have non-wimpy powers to not be a wimp? So Moira MacTaggert (when she was alive) was a wimp, despite standing up to hostile superpowered beings every other day?

But you know what? I say they can use Super-Rogue all they want, so long as they come up with a good reason for her to get her famous spare powers-- and I'm not talking about a 30-second cameo from Ms. Marvel, as some fanatics around the internet seem to think would be a good idea.

"When Rogue joins the Brotherhood, they should fight Ms. Marvel, give the character absolutely no exposition, and have Rogue take her down within 30 seconds of the fight. Oh, and she'll never be seen again in the movie."

As long as nobody says that, fine. She can have the powers. I just don't think they're necessary.

...it's not like anybody is begging for Shadowcat to walk on air and use ninja skills in X3, or anything...

[Almighty Pejo]

Everywhere I go! Everywhere!

No, that's not really it at all. Jean Grey was Marvel Girl in the comics for about 10 years and hundreds of issues of the X-Men before she became Phoenix in the 70s. We can't wait for hundreds of movies before she becomes Phoenix. Things have to be compressed into a smaller timeframe or you'd be dead by the time it got round to being included in a movie!Thirteen years and 1 month and exactly 100 comics before Jean's transformation to Phoenix, then 5 years and 4 months and 64 comics to her regression, then about 10 years and about 154 more comics until her restoration. Frightening how much I know sometimes, isn't it? ;)

"The Phoenix" isn't Jean Grey...

Phoenix is merely a codename, and the Phoenix Force is an entirely different entity. Sure she still posesses it but I don't believe it defines who she is as a person.The Phoenix Force is a force, not an entity, thus they call it the Phoenix Force and not the Phoenix Entity. It doesnt think, feel or act like an entity would, it simply exists, as a force does. The Phoenix consciousness is a derivitive of its avatar and host. It does nothing more than provide life force and cosmic awareness to the person it resides in. It can reside in any omega mutant, but it belongs to Jean Grey. It is to Jean Grey as Excalibur was to Arthur, not only in the sense that it belonged to him, but in the fact that it was a thing, not an entity. It thinks like Jean thinks, it looks like Jean looks, it acts like Jean acts, it speaks like Jean speaks. It does all of this because it is Jean, and Jean is it. It doesn't change anything you said, it simply clarifies the error in thinking. Separate forms do not separate characters make. The Phoenix tells us it came from Jean, and Jean tells us she can fight and beat the Phoenix because she is the Phoenix.

No the Phoenix is NOT who Jean Grey is. Jean Grey was Marvel Girl before she became Phoenix and "Marvel Girl" is something else the movies have not included about Jean. Also, don't forget in the original source material (otherwise in reality) Phoenix was not the manifestation of Jean's powers, Jean was possesed by the Phoenix while on a space shuttle.Marvel Girl would have been a downright ridiculous code name for a 34 year old Doctor to use. And, FYI, Jean Grey was never possessed by anything, even if you account for every retcon ever written. Stop trying to pass off the cartoon as comic cannon and thinking no one will realize it. The original source material stated that Jean Grey died and become a being of pure psionic energy, merging with a primal passion of cosmic awareness and destiny that she called the Phoenix Force. That is, unless, you can prove it says something else between Uncanny X-Men 101 and 137, and just so you know...I've read each and every one of those issues several times, and I know damn well it never says anything you did. Nor do any of the retcons in the comics. The Phoenix Force is nothing more than telepathy and telekinesis. Well, bust my britches if those aren't the same exact powers Jean Grey was born with. Rogue, on the other hand, was born with the power to absorb people's life energy and powers. Super stregnth, flight and all the rest were not a part of who she was. The Phoenix is an aspect of Jean's powers. In order for you to prove what you say is true, I'd like direct quotes from specific comis. I know I can provide plenty to prove my point, and I also know you can't, so that's an end to this one.

Comic retconners who like to insist there is a diference between Jean and Phoenix are probably (one of) the reason(s) they aren't using the name Phoenix in this movie, because they dont want you to think that this is somehow not supposed to be Jean Grey. Turning Jean from a moderate telepath and telekinetic into an insanely powerful telepath and telekinetic are a far cry from turning Rogue from a life/power absorber into Supergirl with a speech impediment.

[JP]

Well thanks for proving my point. Rogue does not need super strength and flight to be Rogue. They're not her powers. They're Ms. Marvels.

[duo_gabo]

it is cool to see Rogue use her real power other than see her carry things 100 times her weight and fly...maybe they could just use her power like temporarily absorb other mutant's power and control it for a short time... like what she did in X2 with Pyro's power... and maybe in X3 she spent a lot time in the danger room and she gets to learn to kick a**...hehehhee

[CASHMERE]

Well thanks for proving my point. Rogue does not need super strength and flight to be Rogue. They're not her powers. They're Ms. Marvels.

Rogue does not need super strength and flight to be Rogue oh I see so Wolverine doesn't need his claws to be Wolverine?

[JP]

Rogue does not need super strength and flight to be Rogue oh I see so Wolverine doesn't need his claws to be Wolverine?

Actually, no. But Wolverine is a more popular character. Even people who are unfamiliar with X Men know the "Dude with the claws". Wich make them his defining attributes. While in Rogues case, people who dont know X Men know her as that chick with the white streak, not the chick with the super strength.

[duo_gabo]

personally, Rogue is better without her super strength and flight powers... its is more interesting to see her use her absorbing power in a battle scene...

[Manic]

Rogue does not need super strength and flight to be Rogue oh I see so Wolverine doesn't need his claws to be Wolverine?
That's a false analogy. Wolverine's claws are his own. He was born with them, and they are a mutation. It's the metal that was given to him.

Rogue didn't mutate into a super-strong, flying woman naturally. She copied that power, and it stayed with her. Bad analogy.

A more appropriate one would be if Mimic from the Exiles lost every permenantly copied power we were familiar with(steel skin, flight, optic blasts, bone claws/healing factor) and started copying temporary powers all the time.

[CASHMERE]

That's a false analogy. Wolverine's claws are his own. He was born with them, and they are a mutation. It's the metal that was given to him.


what the heck? he was born with his claws?

[CASHMERE]

Actually, no. But Wolverine is a more popular character. Even people who are unfamiliar with X Men know the "Dude with the claws". Wich make them his defining attributes. While in Rogues case, people who dont know X Men know her as that chick with the white streak, not the chick with the super strength.

right. im glad to know you've talked to everyone:rolleyes:

[CASHMERE]

personally, Rogue is better without her super strength and flight powers... its is more interesting to see her use her absorbing power in a battle scene...

have you seen her in any battle scenes? she's always pushed or left behind cause she's frail.

[Manic]

what the heck? he was born with his claws?
Yep. James Howlett's mutation not only involved an advanced healing ability, but bone-claws that protrude from the backs of his hands. When his claws first appeared, he accidentally killed a man. He took on the name Logan, ran away from home, and eventually became the Wolverine we all know and love today.

[CASHMERE]

Yep. James Howlett's mutation not only involved an advanced healing ability, but bone-claws that protrude from the backs of his hands. When his claws first appeared, he accidentally killed a man. He took on the name Logan, ran away from home, and eventually became the Wolverine we all know and love today.

This is not the history in the movie. i don't kow where this came from but the only history i know of Wolverine is Weapon X gave him the claws.

[Manic]

This is not the history in the movie. i don't kow where this came from but the only history i know of Wolverine is Weapon X gave him the claws.
It's part of Wolverine's origin in the comics. I think it was revealed in a mini-series a while back, just for the sake of revealing who Logan was before all of the crap with Department H and Weapon X. Logan himself doesn't even remember this.

Also, during some point in the comics in the 1990s, Magneto ripped the adamantium out of Logan's skeleton, leaving him with normal bones. During this time, the claws that came out of his hands were made of very sharp bones, and he was more wild than ever. Through the magic of Plot Device, adamantium was grafted to his skeleton again.

[GoldGoblin]

I hope Rogue steel someone's powers in X-3 and they become her new powers permanently.

[NocturnalMadman]

This is not the history in the movie. i don't kow where this came from but the only history i know of Wolverine is Weapon X gave him the claws.

As Manic said, Magneto ripped the adamantium from Logans skeleton leaving him feral and wild. It didn't take Marvel long to realise that taking away the adamantium/claws took away one of the most important things about Wolverine so they suddenly invented the bone claws and made them randomly appear.

The "Origin" mini series spoken about, was partly to explain the existance of these bone claws and why he'd forgotten about them.

The admantium was restored to Wolverine by Apocalypse, who made Wolverine into one of his new four horsemen. (Death of course)


You are right though, this isn't the history in the movies, the claws are entirely man made. They are not at all the right shape to be bones underneath, they are just blades.

[duo_gabo]

have you seen her in any battle scenes? she's always pushed or left behind cause she's frail.

i'm hoping to see her fight using her stealing powers in X-men 3... and obviously I haven't seen it because the movie is not shown or even filmed yet...

[Electrix]

A Rogue v Mystique scene would be cool....Rogue steals her powers and then you have two people changing into people all of the time. You dont know who's who...until one is knocked out.

[Avalanche]

personally, Rogue is better without her super strength and flight powers... its is more interesting to see her use her absorbing power in a battle scene...
It would be if she ever actually used them in an interesting fashion. In X1 she used it on Wolverine in order to heal, and this was a slightly underwhelming plot device to show Rogue's powers. In X2 she used her powers to calm down Pyro's mess. Again, uninspiring. If they aren't going to give her Ms Marvel powers, at least give her something interesting to do with her current powers. There's so much more potential than what we've been given so far.

[Quing]

Remember, too, that movie Rogue is still a novice with her powers. Even in the comics, the first time we saw Rogue she had been used to them for some time, long enough to absorb Ms. Marvel. Movie Rogue is an entirely different thing. She knocked out David in the first movie because the powers had been just sitting there, not activated. So they packed some extra punch. It took her longer every other time possibly because she was still so unsure of using them.

Maybe in this next movie, she will be less trepidacious. The big difference between the Rogues, be it Movie Rogue, Comics Rogue, TAS Rogue, Evo Rogue, etc... is training. They are all at different levels of comfort in the use of their powers, and it is visble by the way that they behave. Movie Rogue has had no training whatsoever, and therefore she is incredibly timid at first, even going as far as running away. By the second movie, she is a little bit more sure of her powers and allows herself to get close to people and even starts in with the threatening people by taking off a glove. Maybe in the third movie, we'll see that even more developed.

[NocturnalMadman]

Also, think about this: Why would movie Rogue even WANT to use her powers except when she is forced to? (Wolverine, Pyro)

We saw how traumatised she was by still "feeling" Wolvie and her boyfriend inside her head (train scene, X1)

I wanna see her let loose with her powers, but not just for the sake of it. It needs to fit the story....

[JP]

Exactly.

[Mary_Bongiovi]

I liked the Rogue we saw in X1 and X2 but that is not her! I think that Rogue has to have Carol's powers in X3 and change to her real conduct!!!

[JP]

or..... not

[Quing]

it's not Carol Danvers that made Rogue who she was. It was her attitude. Sure, having those powers helped, but she was even Rogueish before she got them.

[Manic]

To say that Rogue's character is defined by having Ms. Marvel's powers is ridiculous. Read the last arcs of X-Treme X-Men; Rogue went into battle without any powers, and people still had a hard time taking her on.

[JP]

it's not Carol Danvers that made Rogue who she was. It was her attitude. Sure, having those powers helped, but she was even Rogueish before she got them.

Ahh, I see your point. But movie Rogue is ment to play the young scared mutant that is just coming into her powers.
By this time in the movies however, im sure she should be a little bit more agressive. If Kitty is coming into this movie to get between Rogue and Iceman, then Rogue shouldnt be so passive.

[Almighty Pejo]

I think, if Kitty becomes a wedge between Rogue and Iceman, it would be funny to see the two of them have to work together. Kitty should phase Rogue so she can get into a position to touch Juggernaut, thus temporarily giving her super strength. She'll punch through some walls or something so all the fanboys can have their moments of fangasms. But then, as it should, she'll lose his strength, but she won't know it at first, and she punches a wall right hard and shatters her fist. Just cause it would be funny.

[CASHMERE]

Best Rogue ever was Super Girl Rogue. someone in this board said she had those powers for 20 years thats 20 years of history.

[Quing]

http://img57.echo.cx/img57/9149/xmenunlimited4xb41yj.jpg
Rogue right before her powers manifested

http://img57.echo.cx/img57/3818/xmenunlimited4xb38dp.jpg
Rogue pretty much right after her powers manifested, scared silly but still threatening Mystique with a shotgun

http://img53.echo.cx/img53/9346/classicxmen44xb104kf.jpg
Rogue well after her powers manifested, still being Rogueish.

So... she was pretty much like that even before she got Ms. Marvel's powers.

[choki]

well, the movie version Rogue should be given her own way to develop. The constant idea of X1, X2 is to show how insecure Rogue felt about her powers. She sees it as a curse rather than a gift. That mentality starts to change abit in X2 when she knew she could use her powers to prevent greater destruction (eg. absorbing Pyro to control fire) z

Surely, her absorbing powers would come to a greater use in X3. She doesn't really need superhuman strength and flight to shine. The ability to absorb other mutants' powers should be her true strength.

[FieryBalrog]

"The Phoenix" isn't Jean Grey...

Phoenix is merely a codename, and the Phoenix Force is an entirely different entity.

you are wrong. Every recent comic involving the two has stated that they are one being and/or extensions of each other. (Phoenix: Endsong, New X-men, older hints in Uncanny and Wolverine).

No the Phoenix is NOT who Jean Grey is. Jean Grey was Marvel Girl before she became Phoenix and "Marvel Girl" is something else the movies have not included about Jean. Also, don't forget in the original source material (otherwise in reality) Phoenix was not the manifestation of Jean's powers, Jean was possesed by the Phoenix while on a space shuttle.

The cartoon is not the original source material, thank you very much. (The whole concept of possession gives it away entirely, because it originates from the cartoon). Direct quote from the original source material, the comics, X-men 136- "She is Dark Phoenix. But she is Jean Grey." Playing up the paradox of what she once was (gentle, good natured etc) and what she became (callous, purely selfish, etc.) In fact the running theme of the original Dark Phoenix saga, as written in the comics (and semi-restored by Claremont's backstories, as well as the most recent material) was the conflict between the human being (Jean) and the god-like expansion of her powers.

Numerous characters- from Prof X, to the narrator, to the Watcher at the end, set out this main theme in their comments.

[duo_gabo]

If they aren't going to give her Ms Marvel powers, at least give her something interesting to do with her current powers. There's so much more potential than what we've been given so far.


I agree...

[Mistopurr83]

Best Rogue ever was Super Girl Rogue. someone in this board said she had those powers for 20 years thats 20 years of history.

It was I who said that on this thread earlier. People also don't seem to realize that not only did Rogue have it for 20+ years in the comics, she started out with those powers in the comics as well!!! Rogue made her very first appearance in the Avengers Annual #10 in 1981 and that was the issue where she permanately absorbed Ms. Marvel! While her days before that issue were told in flashbacks! It gave her more attitude basically and it became essential to her character. Marvel did this to show how a dynamic character can really be.
The movie Rogue is really just a duplication/clone of the old comic's Kitty Pryde. In the early '80's (if I recall correctly here) Kitty Pryde was the one who started out as a scared young mutant who wasn't going with the adults on dangerous missions. The same goes for Jubilee! Rogue was suppost to be her own character who had nothing in common with them.
If the movie Rogue was to be developed in the order of events based on her comic history, than she should've gone from being a runaway, to a brotherhood member and than to an x-woman (just like the gradual transformation Annakin Skywalker went through in Episodes 1-3). This could've been a great sub-plot easily told in 3 parts for god sakes!
I don't know what else to say but I wish people around her would stop making up excuses for the movie Rogue b/c this is NOT the "real" Rogue is! For me, accuracy is more important than some so called "reality" that doesn't exist!

[Endeavor]

... But then, as it should, she'll lose his strength, but she won't know it at first, and she punches a wall right hard and shatters her fist. Just cause it would be funny.

LOL!

[Mistopurr83]

you are wrong. Every recent comic involving the two has stated that they are one being and/or extensions of each other. (Phoenix: Endsong, New X-men, older hints in Uncanny and Wolverine).



The cartoon is not the original source material, thank you very much. (The whole concept of possession gives it away entirely, because it originates from the cartoon). Direct quote from the original source material, the comics, X-men 136- "She is Dark Phoenix. But she is Jean Grey." Playing up the paradox of what she once was (gentle, good natured etc) and what she became (callous, purely selfish, etc.) In fact the running theme of the original Dark Phoenix saga, as written in the comics (and semi-restored by Claremont's backstories, as well as the most recent material) was the conflict between the human being (Jean) and the god-like expansion of her powers.

Excuse me but I did NOT say the cartoon was the original source material! During the Pheonix saga in the comics Jean Grey was possesed by Pheonix (this showed the two are NOT one and the same)! Once again in the Pheonix Endsong issues Jean's dead corpse was brought back and possesed by Pheonix. The Pheonix was still within Jean while her powers were going beserk during the Dark Pheonix saga (that did NOT make them the same character).

[Endeavor]

Excuse me but I did NOT say the cartoon was the original source material! During the Pheonix saga in the comics Jean Grey was possesed by Pheonix (this showed the two are NOT one and the same)! Once again in the Pheonix Endsong issues Jean's dead corpse was brought back and possesed by Pheonix. The Pheonix was still within Jean while her powers were going beserk during the Dark Pheonix saga (that did NOT make them the same character).

Misto, you are either confused or are blatantly ignoring parts of both the original Phoenix story and the recent stories such as Endsong.
First, as any semi-knowledgeable X-Men fan knows, the whole Phoenix Force/Alien entity thing is the result of a retcon. The original story showed Phoenix as the transformation Jean went through when her powers developed to their full potential. There's no getting away from that one, no matter how much alien mythology and magical crappola was later added.
That's been recently reinforced and the true nature of Phoenix has been taken back to a semblance of what it originally was. If you did not understand from Endsong that Jean and the Phoenix are ONE, then you are seriouly lacking in reading comprehension my friend

[Mistopurr83]

Misto, you are either confused or are blatantly ignoring parts of both the original Phoenix story and the recent stories such as Endsong.
First, as any semi-knowledgeable X-Men fan knows, the whole Phoenix Force/Alien entity thing is the result of a retcon. The original story showed Phoenix as the transformation Jean went through when her powers developed to their full potential. There's no getting away from that one, no matter how much alien mythology and magical crappola was later added.
That's been recently reinforced and the true nature of Phoenix has been taken back to a semblance of what it originally was. If you did not understand from Endsong that Jean and the Phoenix are ONE, then you are seriouly lacking in reading comprehension my friend

But dude when people like you say Jean and Pheonix are one it's an opinion. I haven't seen the exact words saying that they are one and the same in the comic dialogue. Also, Marvel doesn't tell us themselves if the two are suppost to be one or not. They simply leave that for us to guess.
If Pheonix is one with Jean as you say, than when Rogue permantely abosorbed Ms. Marvel, she became one with Rogue. After Rogue absorbed Ms. Marvel she had her mind and body tapped inside of Rogue's mind and body. So Ms. Marvel continue to be one with Rogue even though Xavier erased her memories of it happening. That's something Jean and Rogue have in common. Pheonix didn't enter Jean's body until later in her life and Ms. Marvel didn't enter Rogue's body until later in her life. It's almost the same idea in fact.

[FieryBalrog]

This should really be in the Jean Grey/Phoenix thread, but I'll take on last shot here ;)

But dude when people like you say Jean and Pheonix are one it's an opinion. I haven't seen the exact words saying that they are one and the same in the comic dialogue.

when you dont read the relevant comics, how are you going to know whats going on?

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quotes, in case you cant read it, its a little blurry at times:

Phoenix: "Jean Grey, how do you do that [survive being frozen 50 feet down and come out] without me? Without my power?"

Jean: "I am you. Don't you remember? Now get out of that stupid body."

(Jean rips out the Phoenix from Emma)
later


Phoenix: "Because you and I are one."


Earlier the Shi'ar refer to them as the same "self", Emma addresses Jean as "practically infinite, part of the universe". Etc. :)

Pheonix didn't enter Jean's body until later in her life and Ms. Marvel didn't enter Rogue's body until later in her life. It's almost the same idea in fact.

once again, you are completely mistaken. Have you ever read any of the X-men backstories? Jean first manifests the Phoenix raptor when shes 11. Thats 7 years before she even joins the X-men.

Excuse me but I did NOT say the cartoon was the original source material! During the Pheonix saga in the comics Jean Grey was possesed by Pheonix (this showed the two are NOT one and the same)! Once again in the Pheonix Endsong issues Jean's dead corpse was brought back and possesed by Pheonix. The Pheonix was still within Jean while her powers were going beserk during the Dark Pheonix saga (that did NOT make them the same character).:rolleyes:

I dont think youve actually read the Dark Phoenix saga, because numerous characters, including the narrator and the Watcher, proclaim them to be one and the same, extensions of each other. In fact thats the major THEME of the story, which the Watcher comments on at the end.


There is no alien entity in the original story, and since the retcon its been gradually moved back to the original story (the Endsong scans are from 2 months ago).

[Mistopurr83]

I don't wanna continue with this anymore.

[RepoGuy]

I don't like Paquin that much. She doesn't have Rouge's southern charm. She really doesn't even have the accent.

[Almighty Pejo]

I don't wanna continue with this anymore.People who are proven wrong never do.

[Mistopurr83]

People who are proven wrong never do.

I NEVER said the two were not one and the same for a fact!
It's not true what you say anyway.

[JP]

Oh lord.

[CASHMERE]

anyways back to Rogue....

[Stripesy Strip]

I don't like Paquin that much. She doesn't have Rouge's southern charm. She really doesn't even have the accent.

Paquin is Kitty without the smarts and with different powers. Bryan Singer said she was pretty much Kitty but he prefered Rogue`s power wich is a great allegory for teenagers with hormomes kicking in, being disgusted in your body changing, etc...

[Endeavor]

Not really about the movie but can any of you give me a quick 411 on Rogue in the comics now? Last thing I read about her was when she lost her powers during the ending run of X-treme, but I think she got them back... right?

[Almighty Pejo]

I NEVER said the two were not one and the same for a fact!Yes you did, so I showed you you were wrong an provided actual facts to say they were.
It's not true what you say anyway.Oh, yes...silly me. What on Earth was I thinking by using facts from the comic books to prove my point? I should have known things are only true when you make them up. :rolleyes:

[duo_gabo]

I think what they did with Rogue in X1 was really smart... though i think someone might disagree with me... hehe... thats just me...

but on X2, she get to control it but in a way that some of the fans did not like how it was used....

hopefully in X3, we get to see her use her powers...

hopefully ratner could pull this movie off... im more worried with the director...

[FieryBalrog]

I think what they did with Rogue in X1 was really smart... though i think someone might disagree with me... hehe... thats just me...

but on X2, she get to control it but in a way that some of the fans did not like how it was used....

hopefully in X3, we get to see her use her powers...

hopefully ratner could pull this movie off... im more worried with the director...

I also liked the way they handled her character in both the movies. I've never been really a fan of the brash Southern belle she often is in the comics, but I liked her portrayal in Evolution and the movies, which seem to me more like how a girl with her powers would behave.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I do think that there should be one scene where she temporarily absorbs Juggernaut's super strength, and she dukes it out fist to fist with him.

That, I think, would be totally awesome, and give Rogue fans their glimpse of her with her super strength.

[Avalanche]

I do think that there should be one scene where she temporarily absorbs Juggernaut's super strength, and she dukes it out fist to fist with him.

That, I think, would be totally awesome, and give Rogue fans their glimpse of her with her super strength.
This I agree with. They did it in the Evolution series and it was a good watch to see her up against the might that is Juggernaut. In the TAS series however, she could absorb his powers. Since X3 will probably go with Juggernaut as a mutant however, it shouldn't be a problem, and like you say, a nod to the fans.

[duo_gabo]

yea that would be nice... i really hope they'll do it...

[ljr]

The rogue i'd like to see in x-3 is a combination of the movie rogue(tormented by the reality of her powers) and the comic rogue(though she doesn't necesssarily need her other powers)Have her be more sassy and flirty like we glimpsed she could be in the last two movies,and have her be trained to fight and i'd be happy.

[psyonic]

I do think that there should be one scene where she temporarily absorbs Juggernaut's super strength, and she dukes it out fist to fist with him.

That, I think, would be totally awesome, and give Rogue fans their glimpse of her with her super strength.

DO IT! DO IT! *shakes fist*

[Fray Ok]

I'd like to a scene where Rogue is sitting in on the Brotherhood meetings and one of them ask her "What can you do?".She touches him and answers "Whatever you can." She then uses his powers to his amazement.

[Mistopurr83]

Not really about the movie but can any of you give me a quick 411 on Rogue in the comics now? Last thing I read about her was when she lost her powers during the ending run of X-treme, but I think she got them back... right?

Rogue just permanately absorbed Sunfire near the end of her solo series. So once again she has the ability to fly and now has powers that go out (which I think is just as good as super strength). At the end of Rogue #12 the author (Stephanie Moore) said she gave Rogue new powers instead of doing a reset of the Ms. Marvel powers. Apparently this writer wanted to be creative when it came to giving Rogue somebody else's powers permanately.

[Endeavor]

Rogue just permanately absorbed Sunfire near the end of her solo series. So once again she has the ability to fly and now has powers that go out (which I think is just as good as super strength). At the end of Rogue #12 the author (Stephanie Moore) said she gave Rogue new powers instead of doing a reset of the Ms. Marvel powers. Apparently this writer wanted to be creative when it came to giving Rogue somebody else's powers permanately.


Didn't expect that... What do you mean she "has powers that go out"? Did you mean that her absorbed powers don't always work? What happened to Sunfire? Is he comatose?

[spark627]

he was killed by lady dee.. or so rogue thought. he gave rogue the powers as he 'died'

[Mistopurr83]

Didn't expect that... What do you mean she "has powers that go out"? Did you mean that her absorbed powers don't always work? What happened to Sunfire? Is he comatose?

Well Cyclops' optic blasts are a power that goes out, along with Jubilee's fireworks power, and lightning Storm creates with her hands. I said Rogue has power that goes out b/c she can create fire and she can blast somebody with it. No I didn't mean what you asked.

Sunfire is either dead or is in a coma. Just before Rogue absorbed him, he had his legs severed off by Deathstrike (it's likely Lady D killed him) and he was very near death. Just as he was dying and hardly able to speak, he told Rogue to absorb him in order to get these cuffs off her hands. When Rogue started absorbing Sunfire, this lady from her past "Blindspot" forced her to not let go of him. This is obviously why it became permanent. After that Rogue was having a battle with her own x-men teammates but later ran off with Blindspot. Than at the end of Rogue #12 she was back with the x-men and they went to check on Sunfire but when they got to where he was dying, his body was gone. Basically what became of Sunfire remains a mystery. But for now most readers are assuming he's currently dead.

If you wanna see the exact details I'd recommend you read the "Forget Me Not" issues of the Rogue solo series.

[Manic]

Well Cyclops' optic blasts are a power that goes out, along with Jubilee's fireworks power, and lightning Storm creates with her hands. I said Rogue has power that goes out b/c she can create fire and she can blast somebody with it. No I didn't mean what you asked.
Ohhh. You meant she has projectile/long range powers.

[Endeavor]

Well Cyclops' optic blasts are a power that goes out, along with Jubilee's fireworks power, and lightning Storm creates with her hands. I said Rogue has power that goes out b/c she can create fire and she can blast somebody with it. No I didn't mean what you asked.
...

Ah, you meant Energy Projection, ok, thanks.

I hope Sunfire isn't dead.

[NocturnalMadman]

Tony Bedard is the writer of the Forget Me Not arc, who's Stephanie Moore?!


And as for Sunfire:


SPOILERS AHEAD













Sunfire features in the upcoming New X-men: Academy X House Of M arc, he is the evil ruler of Japan. So I guess his death/legs getting chopped off gets undone in Wandas new House Of M reality...who knows what will happen after that

[Angry Sentinel]

Edit...Then at the end of Rogue #12 she was back with the x-men and they went to check on Sunfire but when they got to where he was dying, his body was gone. Basically what became of Sunfire remains a mystery. But for now most readers are assuming he's currently dead.
If you wanna see the exact details I'd recommend you read the "Forget Me Not" issues of the Rogue solo series.Please tell me why any one who reads a marvel comic would "assume" that someone is dead? Thats like when Ras Al Ghul assumed Bruce Wayne would not survive the beam falling on him in Begins (before you flame I like the movie, but that was stupid).:confused:

I read the colossus story where he cured the legacy virus and later kitty scattered his ashes, that was the last time I ever allowed myself to believe that anyone dies in a marvel comic.:ghost:

[addismad]

thats kinda cool, rogue having new permanent powers, so let me get this straight?

she can fly

and she can create/manipulate fire?

[NocturnalMadman]

Yep, correctamondo although not manipulate like Pyro does...it's just more like shots of flame

[CoreyIAN]

I hope anna paquin has more things to do in x3.She was kinda underused in x2.

[psyonic]

I hope anna paquin has more things to do in x3.She was kinda underused in x2.

"kinda underused" is an understatement hehe. :xmen:

[duo_gabo]

she was under used hehehe

[ljr]

Have any of you seen anna's boyfriend,his name is logan marshall-green and he's a regular on THE O.C.,he plays ryan's brother trey.If their still looking for someone to play gambit,he would be a good choice,they could just dye his hair a shade darker and he would be a perfect 20-22 yr old gambit.

[micky-fox]

Yeah I've seen him. I'd rather him not play Gambit though, he is not a good enough actor.

[snwboarder88]

Have any of you seen anna's boyfriend,his name is logan marshall-green and he's a regular on THE O.C.,he plays ryan's brother trey.If their still looking for someone to play gambit,he would be a good choice,they could just dye his hair a shade darker and he would be a perfect 20-22 yr old gambit.

really? where did you hear this?

[Ions]

Yeah I've seen him. I'd rather him not play Gambit though, he is not a good enough actor.Agreed, I'd also prefer Gambit be a few years older than Rogue as well(and look it). :)

[micky-fox]

Same.

[Needia]

really? where did you hear this?
They've been going out for a year- there's some photos of them together.

[micky-fox]

Thats interesting.

[snwboarder88]

DANG! anyone seen how hot Anna has looked lately?

http://img.actressarchives.com/anna/3617543_AnnaP_Kambo.jpg

[Slim_X]

DANG! anyone seen how hot Anna has looked lately?

http://img.actressarchives.com/anna/3617543_AnnaP_Kambo.jpg
Woah Anna! :eek: she looks so hot, is that a recent pic?

[CASHMERE]

who said she was every ugly?

[snwboarder88]

Woah Anna! :eek: she looks so hot, is that a recent pic?

within the last month or so...she looks great!

[snwboarder88]

who said she was every ugly?

Nobody did...she usually doesnt dress sexy thats all...

http://djuna.nkino.com/anna/misc/AnnaPaquin_300x435.jpg

see what i mean..

[Angry Sentinel]

Woah Anna! :eek: she looks so hot, is that a recent pic?
Four inch pumps, shoulder length hair, and a little black dress can do a world of wonders for any woman.

[snwboarder88]

Is there any article or interview with Anna about x3? its werid she seems to be the only one who never gets talked to, or never talks...

[Mistopurr83]

Is there any article or interview with Anna about x3?

I'm afraid not.

[duo_gabo]

anna looks hot... as always, i guess she's hotter hehehe

[spark627]

anna looks amazing in that pic, i hope she looks half that good in x3... get her in that leather suit and let her hair down!

[JP]

Well, out of Anna, Halle, and Famke, Anna does wear the movie costume the best. Have you seen those X2 posters? HOTT!!

[spark627]

yea, she looked amazing in it and i saw her in person in april and i can tell u for a fact her body has gotten better since the last movie, she looks gorgeous. she is gonna be slamming in the costume in x3

[The Schwab]

Anna Paquin is and has been my favorite actress since 2002. I love her. Anyway i'll post even more reccent pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/slicknickshady/Inaugurazione_della_nuova_maison_fe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/slicknickshady/Annual20Lucille20Lortel20Awards2005.jpg

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[gap5ewl]

ohh wow she looks great!! looks like she lost some weight

[JP]

Yay, she lost her baby fat.

[aaron]

is anna going out with logan marshall-green?

he was great in the oc.

i know they were in that play together, by the way, i think he could make a quite good gambit, anyone else agree?

[The Schwab]

is anna going out with logan marshall-green?

he was great in the oc.

i know they were in that play together, by the way, i think he could make a quite good gambit, anyone else agree?

YES :mad: :down

[JP]

is anna going out with logan marshall-green?

he was great in the oc.

i know they were in that play together, by the way, i think he could make a quite good gambit, anyone else agree?

He looks high in all his OC scenes.

[aaron]

man, i think hes acool actor, and although im a guy, ill admit that hes quite good looking.

im not sure if hed luk suitable for remy if he had long hair

[The Schwab]

man, i think hes acool actor, and although im a guy, ill admit that hes quite good looking.

im not sure if hed luk suitable for remy if he had long hair

I hated his charector at the end of the 2nd season of the oc before i found out he was dating anna. grr........

[micky-fox]

I would rather him not playing Gambit. Anna looks great though!

[Ions]

Yeah Anna is looking hot. :)
Still no to her boyfriend... :xmen:

[dressed2depress]

i think that it would be cool if rogue steels juggernauts powers and fights him.

[duo_gabo]

hehehe theyre cute as a couple but not as a "gamibt-Rogie" couple hehehehe

[CoreyIAN]

I alaways thought anna paquin resembles a lot of claire danes.

[CASHMERE]

Anna would have been a kick ass Super Girl Rogue.

[duo_gabo]

she does look a bit like claire danes... but i think anna is more talented hehehe

[JP]

I love me some Claire Danes. But then again, I love me some Anna.

[duo_gabo]

hahahaha... I saw claire Danes in Igby goes down... I thought she was different person... her voice is different...not until i saw the credits, thats when I realized she is claire danes... hehehe

[CASHMERE]

Claire Danes looks like Anna Paquin in Romeo & Juliet.

[duo_gabo]

i wasn't able to watch Romeo and juliet... i think I was really young back then... hahahaha...i'm more of a comic book kid and a playfull kid... hahaha

[ljr]

I always thought she looked a little like eliza cuthbert,and her boyfriend could be a good gambit he's hot enough.

[micky-fox]

Screw him as Gambit! That would suck...Gambit needs to be a bit older...

[ljr]

He's actually 27,how old do you think gambit should be.so LOgan could play a gambit from 22-26 easierly.

[micky-fox]

I meant that the guy looks too young...Gambit should be more mature and dominant. That guy would be a weak portrayal of Gambit. Someone like Viggo Mortensen, for example (only an example, I would rather not have Viggo...) but someone along the looks and characteristics.

[ljr]

You can't be serious if they bring gambit in (and they better had),he'll be only a few yrs older than rogue at the most.Plus logan doesn't look to young and he could pull off a mature and dominant attitude.

[micky-fox]

I suppose. I have always pictured him as a dominant and secure male. Not a young boy the age of Iceman and Pyro.

[ljr]

Yeah but if he's a few yrs older than them he'd be like 23-25 that's mature.

[micky-fox]

I suppose so...I just don't think he could portray a dominant role.

[ljr]

Have you seen him in The O.C.,he could do dominant.

[micky-fox]

He was a ******** in the O.C. He was a dope-head, skitzo, molester. I hate him in that show. In my opinion, he could never be Gambit.

[ljr]

He was hot,and he was way sexier and mature than bloody seth and ryan,if i'd been marisa I so would have gone with him.And he could be gambit,but he wouldn't be my first choice-but i'd except anyone so long as remy's in x-3.

[Ions]

Yeah, big no to him(what my 3rd time now?). Gambit is an outsider. He needs to be someone who can survive without being on a team of mutants, he should be able to appear as though he's lived a long hard life. He has to be mature(mid to late 20's, and look older), attractive enough so he can atleast look plausable when he flirts with women(and he should flirt with each of the women in the X-men). Oozing confidence(or atleast the appearance of it, whether he has a plan or not). :xmen: :)

[micky-fox]

Yeah, big no to him(what my 3rd time now?). Gambit is an outsider. He needs to be someone who can survive without being on a team of mutants, he should be able to appear as though he's lived a long hard life. He has to be mature(mid to late 20's, and look older), attractive enough so he can atleast look plausable when he flirts with women(and he should flirt with each of the women in the X-men). Oozing confidence(or atleast the appearance of it, whether he has a plan or not). :xmen: :)

That is a perfect description Ions! Exactly what I thought.

I am not an O.C fan. So I don't really give a damn about whether he is better than Ryan or Seth, lol.

[JP]

He was hot,and he was way sexier and mature than bloody seth and ryan,if i'd been marisa I so would have gone with him.And he could be gambit,but he wouldn't be my first choice-but i'd except anyone so long as remy's in x-3.

No one will ever be as cute as Seth.

[duo_gabo]

I think Ryan Gosling would be perfect as Gambit....

[micky-fox]

Maybe.

[duo_gabo]

i think he is the only one who can nail the part that ranges from the ages of rouge, pyro and Iceman in the films...

[micky-fox]

Good point.

[Ions]

How about this guy?
http://gfx.filmweb.pl/p/63644/po.79628.jpg
He played Rogue's boyfriend at the start of X-men 1. I think he could pass for Gambit, more so than other suggestions of late. :up:

[snwboarder88]

yea he could work...they could actually make that connection and say that he was gambit from the begnning. that he just didnt use his powers or develop them yet...what is that actors name btw?

[Ions]

Shawn Roberts: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731575/
He's got the angular shape I think needed for Gambit. Plus his eyes, I think they'd work as Gambit. You don't need to connect it to the first movie, because he'd look different from then. And most people would of forgotten him, it was such a small role. Maybe the fact he reminds her of her boyfriend would help explain her sudden attraction to him? :up:

[aaron]

nope the plain fact that he was rogue's boyfriend in x-men, and if he was 2 be gambit in x3, this would be worse than the character discontinuinity

[Needia]

He has to be mature(mid to late 20's, and look older),
Eh. Gambit's in his early-to-mid twenties, and is at best only two or three years older than Rogue in the comics. Officially, anyway.
I think her boyfriend (Logan Marshall Green) did a good job in the OC. I don't imagine it's easy acting opposite Mischa Barton.

[aaron]

just perfect for ian somehalder.

http://www.gaywired.com/scene/images/ACF18D.jpg
http://lostfrance.free.fr/Ian3.jpg
http://www.sw_biografias.blogger.com.br/Ian-Bio.JPG
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.242847.jpg

[aaron]

Eh. Gambit's in his early-to-mid twenties, and is at best only two or three years older than Rogue in the comics. Officially, anyway.
I think her boyfriend (Logan Marshall Green) did a good job in the OC. I don't imagine it's easy acting opposite Mischa Barton.

shes supposed to be really b*tchy and selfish in real life

[Avalanche]

nope the plain fact that he was rogue's boyfriend in x-men, and if he was 2 be gambit in x3, this would be worse than the character discontinuinity
Well, the general public would likely not make the connection that he has ever been in the X-Men series before. He was a very minor character. I wouldn't have realised he was Rogue's boyfriend in X1 unless it was pointed out, and I'm a big X-Men fan.

[aaron]

yeah but we do know, and it wouldn't feel right.

[Avalanche]

yeah but we do know, and it wouldn't feel right.
It wouldn't be an issue for me. I'd immerse myself in him as Gambit. I managed fine with recastings of Pryo and Shadowcat. I'm sure I'd be fine with Gambit being played by an actor who'd already had a small, insignificant role in the movie. I'm sure you'd be fine with it too if he did Gambit justice.

I'm not a massive fan of this guy, but I'm just making the point that it wouldn't be an issue if he played Gambit.

[aaron]

yeah if he did gambit justice, but for me its just the fact that rogue has already had a relationship with this guy, and id feel weird about it if they had one again,but with him as a different character.

[aaron]

just perfect for ian somehalder.

http://www.gaywired.com/scene/images/ACF18D.jpg
http://lostfrance.free.fr/Ian3.jpg
http://www.sw_biografias.blogger.com.br/Ian-Bio.JPG
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.242847.jpg

c'mon guys, ian was born for this role. hes even got a remy-esque athletic build.

[Crusher]

Lets not re-hash old actors to do a new part in x3, we are talking X-men here, not Friday the 13th part "27".
:joker:

[Avalanche]

c'mon guys, ian was born for this role. hes even got a remy-esque athletic build.
Heh, I'm all for Ian. He's by far the best choice aesthetics wise that I've seen so far on the boards. He's be perfect as far as I'm concerned.

[aaron]

lol im glad u agree

hes a very good aswell

have u cn the rules of attraction?

[JP]

What!? Did everyone forget about Trent Ford??


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/how_to_deal/trent_ford/deal.jpg
http://www.espectador.com/img/252x180despliegue/empresariales/trent_ford.jpg
http://alloy.com/images/photos/220x305/trent_ford_70103.jpg

P.S. Ians eyes are too close together!

[CASHMERE]

^ ian looks better than that

[JP]

Please. Trents hottness level is way higher. Ian needs to some how fix his eyes. They're so close together and it makes him look crosseyed in some pics.

[The Original Bamfer]

I, ah don't like Trent or Ian... No offense.

[aaron]

im a guy and from a guys p.o.v ian is much better looking

[JP]

Ian = poo

[JP]

http://img233.echo.cx/img233/8927/trentford9dp.jpg

http://img254.echo.cx/img254/9351/ford5qh.jpg

Now back to Rogue...

[aaron]

u wanna competition?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/lanazj/Ian%20Somerhalder/ian_somerhalder001z.jpg
http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/c/caf3c93ca9.jpg
http://www.iansomerhalder.net/Ianagency1.jpg
http://www.cosmomovieawards.com/actors/images/ian_somerhalder5.jpg

[JP]

Im telling you.... those eyes. They're crooky.

[aaron]

you're probably the only person in the world who doesn't think he's hot

[JP]

Probably am.

[Jan Irisi]

Probably am.


Nope, I don't think he's all that either. Yes, his eyes are an issue with me, but I also think he's far too "pretty".

[JP]

Nope, I don't think he's all that either. Yes, his eyes are an issue with me, but I also think he's far too "pretty".

:up:

[Ions]

Nope, I don't think he's all that either. Yes, his eyes are an issue with me, but I also think he's far too "pretty".True, a pretty boy. That and he's a mediocre actor. Plus he doesn't look at all like Gambit. :down

[CASHMERE]

shawn roberts is buff-esk looking now i remember him from a degrassi episodes.

[JP]

No way do I want someone who plays a rapist playing Gambit!!!

[micky-fox]

Same!

[Quing]

arent there enough gambit casting threads without turning this one into one as well?

[duo_gabo]

i think its called "the evolution of the thread"...hehehe

[Ions]

Plus if people weren't doing it, this thread would fade off the main page of this forum. And look at the page count go up, it's making this thread seem even more important. Just as brat's incessant posting shot Storm's page count up to huge levels. Making that thread seem important/popular.. [Ions isn't being serious!]
And as for Gambit casting specifically, it has some bearing. There's a fairly good chance Rogue and Gambit will be paired off, either in this film, or implied for the future. So casting predictions helps when you wanna see what they'd look like as a couple. That's a plausible excuse... :up: [Ions is just completely full of crap in this case]
I hope Anna looks abit more mature in her new X-men uniform. Show she's all grown up. :up:

[snwboarder88]

http://img.actressarchives.com/anna/3617543_AnnaP_Kambo.jpg

I guess you didnt see this pic i posted last week of her? she looks all grown up to me!

[Ions]

I guess you didnt see this pic i posted last week of her? she looks all grown up to me!Are you talking to me? Because I did see it. What in my post implied I hadn't?(assuming your post was speaking to me) :xmen:
She's looking hot. As I said back when those newer pics were posted. :)

[spark627]

that pic is so amazing, how great would it be if her hair was like that for the movie!

i hope rogue is a full fledge member this time and we get more of her in the uniform!

[Kal-El 8]

I wonder is Rogue going to Fly in X3 like she did in The comics & the animated series?

[Electrix]

I wonder is Rogue going to Fly in X3 like she did in The comics & the animated series?

Its unlikely but you never know...

[spark627]

i cant see rogue flying in the movie, but i can see her stealing juggs power and having them stay permanetly.. even though she doesnt have her ms marvel powers anymore in the comics, and i doubt theyd give movie rogue her new sunfire powers

[Jinkins]

What is rogue's role like in x3? Is Anna going to be shooting in Hatley Castle next week also?

[Dugath]

I was just watching Waterboy and I think Fairuza Balk would have made a far better Rogue. She (to me) seems to have the better look just sounds better. Just my opinion though.

[Manic]

I was just watching Waterboy and I think Fairuza Balk would have made a far better Rogue. She (to me) seems to have the better look just sounds better. Just my opinion though.
But Fairuza is my #1 choice for mutant lawyer Evangeline Whedon...

[Mistopurr83]

What is rogue's role like in x3? Is Anna going to be shooting in Hatley Castle next week also?

Nobody here knows!

[GNR]

Here's something for you x-fans to ponder.Suppose Gumbo does make an appearance in future x-films including X3 and does have relations with Rogue.The way Rogue has been portrayed in the movies,there is no way I can see her saying the word "Sugah".What do you guys think?

[Crimson Warrior]

Being as she seemingly lost the Mississippi accent, I cant picture her saying it but that doesnt mean she wont I guess.

[gap5ewl]

never say never

[chuckweedle]

Maybe she's just trying to hide her Mississippi accent because of her Bostonian boyfriend? It may be a weak point, but it's a possible explanation for her lack of accent. Then, when she starts spending time with ol' Remy, she doesn't feel like her southern accent will be a turnoff.

[Crimson Warrior]

Before I moved to California I had a Thick Cajun accent being as I lived in New Orleans and in another city called Metarie. With time accents can be lost somewhat especially in young children but I doubt Rogue has had enough time to adapt. I've been in Cali now 3 yrs and I still have my accent.

[chuckweedle]

What I meant was, Rogue has been shown as kind of self-conscious, at least in my opinion, in the movies. Not completely, she has her moments (on the jet with Magneto). But, I was meaning she was trying to hide her southern accent either to fit in, just in general, or just because she doesn't want Bobby to stop liking her. So, her southern accent is still there, she's just faking it. I don't know, just a quick idea that could possibly be used to explain the lack of an accent.

[Crimson Warrior]

If Bobby can like a girl that could potentially drain his life force from his body just by simply touching her, I dont think her accent would be a problem for him. But I see what your saying, but I dont think that would work as an excuse, adaptation probably would fit better. It's very difficult to continously hide your accent.

[gap5ewl]

Before I moved to California I had a Thick Cajun accent being as I lived in New Orleans and in another city called Metarie. With time accents can be lost somewhat especially in young children but I doubt Rogue has had enough time to adapt. I've been in Cali now 3 yrs and I still have my accent.
i have to agree. im originally from new york city and had a pretty thick accent but once i moved to california, it dissapeared within 2 years. same with my mom she lived in new york for 35 years and had a heavy accent but once she left it went away. it slips sometimes though especially when she talks to family. so its possible for her to loose it maybe it slips now and then.

[duo_gabo]

losing accents... gaining accents... having assets... no assets...

[gap5ewl]

i think she'll have her southern accent in x3 and maybe a storm and pyro one to? that would be awesome

[ljr]

Rogue will,cause she had an accent in x1 and x2 it just wasn't a very thick southern accent but it was there.Storm maybe,pyro-no way how would they explain him suddenly having a austrailian accent.

[gap5ewl]

you could say like oh he hid it because he wanted to be more american and now hes proud to be australian or maybe the professor help some of the students lose their accents but now that he's left, it came back

[ljr]

Yeah and that would be believiable-no.

[spark627]

in the comic books, rogue has mentioned how people from the south say she sounds like a 'yankee' from all her time in ny... so yea

[GNR]

Yeah and that would be believiable-no.

haha.

[Electrix]

Recent pics of Anna...

http://djuna.nkino.com/anna/misc/hq_annapaquin01.jpghttp://djuna.nkino.com/anna/misc/hq_annapaquin02.jpg

[snwboarder88]

hmm...could you find a bigger pic, im having truble seeing it! ha

[Electrix]

hmm...could you find a bigger pic, im having truble seeing it! ha

Lol, thats what were on the website...quite big arnt they :D

[gap5ewl]

what website did you get it off of?

[Electrix]

what website did you get it off of?

http://djuna.nkino.com/anna/

[EnSabahNur]

Recent pics of Anna...

http://djuna.nkino.com/anna/misc/hq_annapaquin01.jpghttp://djuna.nkino.com/anna/misc/hq_annapaquin02.jpgSuprisingly those were just thumbnail pics compared to the others :D

[Electrix]

Suprisingly those were just thumbnail pics compared to the others :D

You didnt have to quote them!

[EnSabahNur]

You didnt have to quote them! i know but i thought quoting it would be more fun lol its fun watching people get irretated with stuff like that..:D

[Electrix]

i know but i thought quoting it would be more fun lol its fun watching people get irretated with stuff like that..:D

Yeah well its 1:30 am where I am and I'm too tierd to be irritated so I'm off to bed.

Bye Bye :D

[Ions]

Damn those are awesome pics! :xmen: :up:

[ljr]

Anna is definitely looking good these days,I thought she was pretty in x2,looks like she'll look even better in x3.

[spark627]

in the first movie i thought "she is not rogue at all", second movie she was getting there... but now, damn she totally looks like rogue, cant wait to see her in action (PLEASE make her full fledged team member)

[ljr]

Totally agree,anna has grown into the part-hopefully the character will have as well.Maybe that's what the producers had in mind all long that anna would grow with rogue.

[spark627]

here is a quick manip i did , also my first... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/spark627/anna.jpg

[spark627]

^ if anyone wants a larger version, let me know