Ghost Rider FAQ

[Midnight Ice]

Could someone please tell me Ghost Rider's story and bio? I don't know much about him. :xmen:

[FlameHead]

Phew... this could be a long post as the history of Ghost Rider is pretty long and detailed, especially because there are 2 of them... 3 if you count Vengence.

There is a really great history of GR posted on the Vengence Unbound website that is pretty detailed and goes through the story in pretty good detail. I suggest reading that and heres the link for that...
http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/incarnations.html

If you have an specific questions, feel free to ask.

[DarkKnightJRK]

Ok, can someone educate me on Ghost Rider? All I know that he's a guy with a motorcycle and a flaming skull for a head.

Thanks in advance. :)

[Morg]

History (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/ghostrider.htm)

[FlameHead]

Vengeance unbound has a great history as well...

http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/incarnations.html

[DarkKnightJRK]

Cool. Thanks. Can someone point me to some info on this movie? Y'all got me interested in this one. :D

[Morg]

Reading the threads in the GR forum isn't enough? :) Right now, haven't heard anything new at this time but keep a eye out on the GR, something bound to pop up :D

[DarkKnightJRK]

Reading the threads in the GR forum isn't enough? :)

As you can see, I'm clearly being a post whore here so, I guess it'll do. :D

[FlameHead]

The Q&A thread is the best source for information right now. Check that out.

[Isildur´s Heir]

Should they use the original Johnny Blaze´s origin, of having him making a pact with the "devil" to save Crash Simpson life from a fatal disease.
Or should they change it?

I think they should change it...update it, because, in my opinion, the Blaze´s Ghost Rider origin is not very good to begin with.
It might have made some sense back in the 60´s, but not now.

[Johnny Blaze]

IDK, I like the whole making-a-deal-with-the-devil origin.
I'd have it be to save Roxanne though instead of Crash.

[BIGGUN]

as long as the heart of the story is there....that Blaze gives up his soul to a dark power in order to save a loved one. that is the main point of Ghost Rider....whether its Crash or Roxanne doesnt make a big difference to me. however i do hope that Crash is in there somewhere...

[FlameHead]

Me too.

As for the origin... I think it's crucial to keep it the way it is. It's such a great story and a wonderful take on heroism. This man saves a life by giving up the ultimate sacrifice; his soul. That's worse than death.

I mean, what better origin is there?

[Nero_Ordin]

i thought they were going to have blaze give his soul to save his dad

[Kung Fu master]

No, that's from the comic. In the movie he tries to save Roxanne.

[FlameHead]

Which I don't mind. I understand the change. There has to be romantic interest in a movie these days. It's almost law... and probably always has been.

[Lonewolf182]

Hi everyone, im new to the Superherohype forum and im also new to Ghost Rider. Hes one of those character that people know about, but dont know the origin of *im one of those people*. So whats his origin? I was looking around on the internet and didnt really come across any good sources, are there any good Ghost Rider sites that have stories, pictures and all that good stuff?

[BIGGUN]

Try here: http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/incarnations.html

very cool site...really goes into detail and includes both the 70s and 90s series.
also check out MarvelMovie's site too...lots of rare pics and drawings.
http://www.digitalentropy.net/Internapse/GRMain.html

[Lonewolf182]

Okay, cool. Thanks alot

[lnchbox01]

dude that is awesome

[DarkHellRider]

Tell me all you know about Ghost rider what his powers are how he got them his back history everthing

[NightCrawler]

Jeepers... I have the first issue (i believe)...

It starts off at night inside a dark church, and theres a heavey lightning storm outside. The doors open and in comes a blonde, short haired man, looking for santcuary. The man introduces himself as Johnny Blaze. The Priest "sensed" something troubling the man, and asked if he needed any guidence. So they step into the booth. This is where He tells his life story, his father was a stunt man. His father dies, hes an orphan who moves in with the girl of his dreams, Rocky, and her father, Crash, who was Johnny's fathers friend and partner in Crash's stunt show.

Later on in life, his new mother, Mona, Dies and he promised her (her wishes) he'd give up his biking. He also gains intrest in the occult, so he can contact Mona's Spirit. He felt that he wasn't getting anywhere, and we being pressured to start biking again, so secretly he did, but not for the show. He did it for the thrill, not to make a profit off the stunts. But, Crash (his new father) finds out hes got a month to live and causes Johnny to make a pact with the devil. He made a deal with the devil. His soul, to spare Crash of the disease that was killing him. 3 weeks later, Crash died while making his last Stunt too short of a jump. Johnny Blaze felt that he made a deal witht he devil, and the devil should have kept his word. Although he didn't die of disease, the devil found another way of killing Crash. The devil came for Johnny's Soul that night, but Rocky, haveread all the same books Johnny did on the occult, scared the devil off. But, the devil said he would return

Johnny, wanting to help Rocky run the show, took Crash's place in the Stunt show. He felt that he wasn't jsut as good, but better then Crash. Inside the Dressing room is when he first became :ghost: Ghost Rider.

I won't tell you what happens in the rest of the story Because its really good, and you should git yer hands on a copy somehow. Not from me :)

Johnny Blaze doesn't have any powers. Its Ghost Rider who has the powers. Its like a split personality. JB is just a human, GR is a demon who is caged up inside JB.

GR comes out at the site of blood, but i don't think it started out that way. I read mostly the Danny Ketch stories, and through that, he came out when someone was hurt or whatever. Think of Danny Ketch as a camera, and GR as the security gaurd. When DK views something, GR comes out for vengence.

GR's powers are the fact he can make a bike out of his flames. A funny thing about his flames are, its a mystical flame. It can't harm the innocent. Only can burn the guilty. He also has a pensence stare which is when he shoots flames from his own eyes, and into the bad guy's eyes. This makes the person feel the pain that he caused on others. Like JB, GR is an excellent biker, beter then JB is. No matter what bike it is, he can go faster. He can do better stunts (like his famouse riding up walls of tall buildings).

My favorit Marvel Character is GR :ghost: . I love it because its dark. At first i was sketical cuz i'm not into bikers. But i picked it up, gave it a chance and LOVED IT! I started getting as much comics as i possibly could. I don't have them all... nearly half. But i have alot.

Finding out about this movie was both great news to me and bad. I loved the comics, and i know they're going to change it so i'm afride what the outcome will be. I really hope they take the beginning of the movie EXACTLY how this comic is, and then go more into the film. I think that this comic has a GREAT introductry.

The worst news i heard about the movie, wasn't that Johnny Cage will be playing JB... i think we all should give him a chance. I have faith in him. What i don't have faith in, is the script. When i found out there was a dark story, i was happy. Then i last heard they scrapped it and made it PG-13. Now, if you're a hard core GR fan like me... this would have upsetted you. Marvel has 3 dif sides... the girly storys (whats her name.. modeling mindy or something?) The Good VS Bad (Spider-Man, X-MEN, Fantastic Four etc.) and the Bad VS Bad, Dark stories (DareDevil, Punisher... and Ghost Rider). Watching DareDevil (theatrical release which was PG-13) It was alreight, but wasn't how the comic would be written. Then they came out with a Director's Cut (unrated), and it was so much better. I felt it was more like the comic. Theres Also Punisher (rated R) which really had the dark depths. I mean, you really felt his pain, and anger when you seen his whole family be killed. They couldn't pull that off in PG-13. So, i'm afride that they're going to make a horrible movie if they stick to the PG-13 guidlines. Anyone who reads GR will agree. GR does not by anymeans tell a good PG-13 story. To me, they're jsut trying to make a movie. If they wanted to make Ghost Rider's character come to life, they'd make it rated R.

[Abe]

johnny cage is playing Ghost Rider? didn't he died right at the beginning of the sequel to mortal kombat?
it's nicolas cage my friend. :)
abe.

[NightCrawler]

LOL yea thats what i ment thnx.. i knew i was messing up his name, i just could think about his real name

[DarkHellRider]

The reaosn i ask about his backround is cause i chose him as my character for a marvel RPG on this site. SO i need to know all that i can. :ghost:

[GhostRider]

Jeepers... I have the first issue (i believe)...



me think that not first issue

[FlameHead]

The reaosn i ask about his backround is cause i chose him as my character for a marvel RPG on this site. SO i need to know all that i can. :ghost:

There is a lot of information online about Gbost Rider... and there is a links thread here on the hype for the character. I'll bump it too the top for ya.

[NightCrawler]

Yea, i wasn't sure if its was the first release. I think it was like a recap. Its the first issue ov Ghost Rider rides again. Anyway, i think it would make a great movie introduction

[BIGGUN]

Yea, i wasn't sure if its was the first release. I think it was like a recap. Its the first issue ov Ghost Rider rides again. Anyway, i think it would make a great movie introduction

yup...that was a short run reprint series that released the last 10 or so issues of the 70s GR. the 90s GR book just came out and was really popular....Marvel did the reprint series to cash in on GR's success and introduce everyone to Blaze and how he got rid of GR. those issues btw are considered to be the best GR stories by many long time fans...

[FlameHead]

I have most of that reprint run; The orignal Ghost Rider Rides again'... and I have to say that it certainly is some damn good reading. I was able to finish the story recently actually, with the aquisition of Ghost Rider 81.

The released another just called Original Ghost Rider which was a reprint of the First issues of Ghost Rider (I think). I only have a couple issues of them.

[BIGGUN]

I have most of that reprint run; The orignal Ghost Rider Rides again'... and I have to say that it certainly is some damn good reading. I was able to finish the story recently actually, with the aquisition of Ghost Rider 81.

The released another just called Original Ghost Rider which was a reprint of the First issues of Ghost Rider (I think). I only have a couple issues of them.

yeah its weird how they did it. 1st it was "Original GR Rides Again" which reprinted the last 10 or so issues from the 70s/early 80s run and the "Orig GR" started w/ the very 1st issue (Marvel Spotlight from 1972).
those reprints should still be pretty cheap for anyone who wants to know the story and not have to shell out big $$ for the originals.

[FlameHead]

I guess they wanted to just introduce people to Blaze, especially when they decided to bring the character back in the second series... plus, as you said, the last 14 (which they had 2 per issue for 7 issues) are the best of the run anyway. When that sold well, I guess they wanted to take further advantage of the fans and released the first so many issues.

[Dr Doom]

Exactly how many Ghost Rider's have there been?

What are their respective powers?

What are there names?

What did they and their bikes look like?

Which is better?

:D :D :D

[WarBlade]

Ghost nothingtodowiththeoneweknowandlove Rider: Some guy on horseback, dressed in white in a 'western' setting. The first Marvel character to be called Ghost Rider.

Ghost Rider 1: Johnny Blaze. The Original flame headed faustian character. Came equipped with a hell cycle, strength, resilience, hellfire blasts from his hands and a manic demeanor. The bikes were typically harley hog type things and stunt bikes.

Ghost Rider 2: Dan Ketch. Johnny's brother. Strength, resilience, a morphable chain weapon that could be used as a whip, garrot or a ranged-attack blade weapon, and the penance stare - Ghost Rider's unique soul rending ability when he dragged an enemy into face to face contact. His hellcycle was more of a futuristic sports machine in it's "hero" form and was disguised as a very ordinary street bike when Ghost Rider gave up his claim to the body he shared with Dan. The hellcycle was revealed to be a part of him in some way and has exhibited the ability to completely reform at will from a pile of scrap pieces when destroyed.

In both of the above cases the human characters would transform into the Ghost Rider ala Hulk style transformation where separate personalities were forced together in one body and the bikes would transform with them from a casual day bike into a 'flame-tyred' beast referred to by the fans as a "hellcycle".

Blaze: Technically not a Ghost Rider, but one of several "Spirits of Vengeance", Johnny Blaze returned to the Dan Ketch story and gradually began exhibiting several hellfire based powers. His body started appearing a little stronger and resilient (though not so much as that of the Ghost Rider), his bike would gain the flaming tyres and he could extend hellfire beyond his body through his weapons; a shotgun and a knife. At one point part of his face got ripped off to reveal a ghost rider-like skeleton underneath, which later healed back to a more human appearance.

Vengeance: Lieutenant Baddilino(sp?) became another Ghost Rider with similar traits to Blaze's version, complete with the hellfire and bike, although his human personality remained in Vengeance form, albeit in a partially deranged state, unlike the others who had to cope with giving up their bodies to their internal other. His normal bike was a street machine, the hellcycle was a very demonic looking chopper.

I missed something out. I just know I have. :eek:

[FlameHead]

There's not much to add to this. Nicely done WarBlade...

When www.vengeanceunbound.com comes back online, you'll be able to read the fantastic history of Ghost Rider that they've wrote up. It gives a lot of information on the character through time.

[user123456789]

This thread is for everyday people like me who know nothing about GR that can ask anything they wish about Ghost Rider.

my first question is... what / who is ghost rider?

[FlameHead]

This is a great idea for a thread... although there is a tonne of information already online to answer your questions. The three best resources on the net for the Character are the following.

For the movie...
http://www.digitalentropy.net/Internapse/GRMain.html

For the comic...
http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/main.html

For the universe...
http://giantsizedghostrider.co.nr/

ON the VU.com website, there is an amazing history write up on the character including information on all 3 Ghost Riders, all written in a logical manner. It's the best and truly gives a complete timeline for bucko.

The link for that is here: http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/incarnations.html

If you still have questions, go ahead and ask. Somebody here will answer I'm sure.

[C. Lee]

I'll sticky this for a while.

[FlameHead]

Good idea. Thanks.

[user123456789]

I'm checkin out the 3 links now. Thanks flame & c.lee. On a side note, how come the GR forums dont have a spoiler / non-spoiler section? Isn't this movie due out soon?

[FlameHead]

I guess that only comes when the movie is either finished or close to finished. When we start hearing more about the character and the movie specifically, I'm sure they'll create one of those sections.

It could also be because we have a very nice community of GR fans here. We all respect one another and the rules. This means we usually warn people if we have information that could spoil the movie. OF course, that could all change as new people arrive. I hope not though. I'm proud of our section of the hype.

[Punitore]

http://www.digitalentropy.net/Internapse/gallery/albums/album17/26_G.jpg

Looks like a mix between Mel Gibson and David Schwimmer..

[Punitore]

Oh sorry i should have not posted it here...

[FlameHead]

You're right... in both posts.

[FlameHead]

Oh yeah.

I guess the 3 GR sites that we have says everything...

[DavetheMick]

How does Ghost Rider punish the wicked? Does he just find them randomly or does does he have a list? Uhhh what does he do to them when he finds them. I reckon its something bad with the chains and hellfire and all.

[FlameHead]

He's definatly not Santa with a list...

It's more of a magical, mystical thing. Whenever innocent blood is spilt, Ghost Rider is 'born' to avenge he/she who did the spillin'... and he won't stop until it's done.

He does whatever's necessary to make him feel an equal amount of pain that that person's caused on others. Sometimes, just a great beating is enough. Other times, the Penance Stare (or Hell Fire blast, when referring to GR1) is needed to make they feel such an intense pain that it leaves the victem shaking in the bushes.

The chains are his aquirin' tool. It's fun to watch what it can do. He uses it in many creative ways.

[InVictus]

The most funny episode with the chain was against D'spair/D'sprite, i don't remember well his name...GR was falling from a tower and tried to use the chain to swing from a lamppost as Spidey (he actually said it) but GR was too heavy and the lamp post bented, GR creashing on a car...:)
I think that in the punisher's crossover against flag smasher GR showed almost any trick with the chain...apart from the explosive chain rings shooting(where he did it first?)

[DavetheMick]

He's definatly not Santa with a list...

It's more of a magical, mystical thing. Whenever innocent blood is spilt, Ghost Rider is 'born' to avenge he/she who did the spillin'... and he won't stop until it's done.

He does whatever's necessary to make him feel an equal amount of pain that that person's caused on others. Sometimes, just a great beating is enough. Other times, the Penance Stare (or Hell Fire blast, when referring to GR1) is needed to make they feel such an intense pain that it leaves the victem shaking in the bushes.

The chains are his aquirin' tool. It's fun to watch what it can do. He uses it in many creative ways.

Thanks for the info Flamehead. Do you have any suggestions for any graphic novels to start with.

[Crowley9]

Why is this already unstickied? And thanks for those links. So it seems like the whole Noble Kale thing could be retconned as Mephisto's lies and illusions...

[FlameHead]

If that happens, you'll have one pissed off fan here.

No prob on the info DavetheMick. Any time; just ask away.

[Silvers24]

Give me some more details on Ghost Rider, I know and hear of him. But hardly know **** on the Character JOhnny Blaze/Ghost Rider. And who is exactly Blackheart? (I hear he/she is a angle sent from heaven alongside the Devil)

[Silvers24]

Thanks. I am gonna check them out asap.

[Riding Ghost]

Just a quick question... that MSJ kinda talked about in his Comic-Con press conference..

Johnny Blaze's spirit is owned and possessed by the Devil.. aka.. Mephisto. Yet, when he transforms into Ghost Rider, he tortures the guilty and murderers. To me, that is kinda weird.. which is what MSJ talked about, and why he's making it easier to follow and understand.

Devil owns guy, guy kills guilty.

You would think that a Devil's "soldier" (in a sense) would not punish the guilty.. but a guy like the Punisher would do that. That's like God controling a guy and having him kill angels and priests in a way.

Just kinda.. odd.

I thought it odd myself.
There is nothing more straight forward and logical then the way GR was in original series. Real simple, GR/demon is evil but controlled by Blazes conscious to only punish the guilty instead of everyone like he would otherwise do. Yet MSJ said that was too confusing :rolleyes: So he just had to come up with something else.
I mean really, in the end, if Mephisto has his way, him and his minions will be runnin all over the place, yet we are to understand that somehow Mephisto needs GR to controll things. Why?? just so Mephisto can let loose his demons at a time of his choosing instead of them escaping prematurely. Fine, whatever, that could work, but to say that he has come up with something more logical and understandable than the original premise is very odd indeed.

[FlameHead]

Just a quick question... that MSJ kinda talked about in his Comic-Con press conference..

Johnny Blaze's spirit is owned and possessed by the Devil.. aka.. Mephisto. Yet, when he transforms into Ghost Rider, he tortures the guilty and murderers. To me, that is kinda weird.. which is what MSJ talked about, and why he's making it easier to follow and understand.

Devil owns guy, guy kills guilty.

You would think that a Devil's "soldier" (in a sense) would not punish the guilty.. but a guy like the Punisher would do that. That's like God controling a guy and having him kill angels and priests in a way.

Just kinda.. odd.

The way I see it is this; Mephisto collects souls. He plays a game with each and everyone one of them (Zarathos for example; he's spent eons toying with his soul, bonding it with several different beings, Blaze being one of them. Just because of a fued they had years ago). To get these souls, he deploys a Spirit of Vengeance to earth to capture them. Now, because of the rules set forth by the beings from all netherworlds, Mephisto can only get the souls of beings that deserve to be in hell (or agree to give them up).

[FlameHead]

I thought it odd myself.
There is nothing more straight forward and logical then the way GR was in original series. Real simple, GR/demon is evil but controlled by Blazes conscious to only punish the guilty instead of everyone like he would otherwise do. Yet MSJ said that was too confusing :rolleyes: So he just had to come up with something else.
I mean really, in the end, if Mephisto has his way, him and his minions will be runnin all over the place, yet we are to understand that somehow Mephisto needs GR to controll things. Why?? just so Mephisto can let loose his demons at a time of his choosing instead of them escaping prematurely. Fine, whatever, that could work, but to say that he has come up with something more logical and understandable than the original premise is very odd indeed.

Well, I don't think Mephisto has any interest in letting hell loose on earth. He has his own hell and he's very happy with that. He collects souls for his own plane of existance.

Blackheart on the other hand is the one bent on making Earth another Hell, much worse than the Hell controlled by his father. This is what Mephisto is trying to stop in the movie because he doesn't want another hell for evil souls to live in. He wants them for his universe.

[Riding Ghost]

I guess it makes sense that Blaze has something left in Ghost Rider to make himself only punish the guilty, but if he has that much control... then why punish anyone?

The control Blaze had over Zarathos progressed from the beginning of series to the end(as we all know). In the Beginning Blaze had complete control and as Zarathos asserted himself more it became harder for Blaze to control. Zarathos personality as evil became more and more apparent but he was still only on a mission of vengeance because of Blazes conscious. Why punish anyone? you ask. Why not punish the guilty? Due to Blazes deal with the devil, Zarathos was here, on this earth and fortunately blazes consciouys held him in check enough so that only the guilty got punished, but it was a constant struggle in the end. which was good readin.

Makes it seem like a Hulk story, like Banner has some control, such as when the Hulk sees Betty, he calms down to change back into Bruce... so there is still a little bit of ol' Bruce in there. But, the Hulk only hurts those who hurt him.. aka.. the Army.

Well there are bound to be some similarities between characters that transform into something else. Just because it seems hulkesque doesn't make it a bad thing. There are plenty of other differences to separate the 2.

[Riding Ghost]

The way I see it is this; Mephisto collects souls. He plays a game with each and everyone one of them (Zarathos for example; he's spent eons toying with his soul, bonding it with several different beings, Blaze being one of them. Just because of a fued they had years ago). To get these souls, he deploys a Spirit of Vengeance to earth to capture them. Now, because of the rules set forth by the beings from all netherworlds, Mephisto can only get the souls of beings that deserve to be in hell (or agree to give them up).

It could work, not sure how far they can go with this storyline, but yeah it could work. I was just saying that the original premise is better and for MSJ to say the original premise was more confusing than what you just said is wrong. I'm not dead set against the bounty hunter thing, I was just hoping for a more faithful rendition of the original comic and his reason for not doing it I think is ....misguided. IMO

[Riding Ghost]

Well, I don't think Mephisto has any interest in letting hell loose on earth. He has his own hell and he's very happy with that. He collects souls for his own plane of existance.

I've never heard of a evil power hungry entity being satisfied with what he has.
Isn't Mephisto basically another term for Satan? I say basically because although I believe they are said to be 2 different entities their goals are essentially the same.
I read in a book (can't remember the name of it) that there is suppose to be a battle in the end of our time where Heaven goes against hell and the victor gets supremacy over all, heaven, hell and everything in between. If hell wins i.e. satan , there will be hell on earth.

[Crowley9]

I read in a book (can't remember the name of it) that there is suppose to be a battle in the end of our time where Heaven goes against hell and the victor gets supremacy over all, heaven, hell and everything in between. If hell wins i.e. satan , there will be hell on earth.
The Bible? Probably not. There it's very clear who comes out on top. That reminds me of Obergeist...

Think about it this way: If Mephisto goes and wages open war against Heaven that would show that Heaven and Hell do actually exist which would probably lead to a whole lot of people making amends for their past sins. Seems to me like a covert war of attrition would be more beneficial for Mephisto.

[Riding Ghost]

Think about it this way: If Mephisto goes and wages open war against Heaven that would show that Heaven and Hell do actually exist which would probably lead to a whole lot of people making amends for their past sins. Seems to me like a covert war of attrition would be more beneficial for Mephisto.

however at the end of the war of attrition, then there would be hell on earth, if hell won. But I think I see what your saying, that before the end of that war he wouldn't want demons runnin all over the place, good point C9. Like I said, I'm not dead set against the idea of the bounty hunter angle, I just think its wrong to say that that is less confusing than the original premise behind the Blaze GR and it wasn't neccessary to come up with something new when MSJ could've remained further faithful to the comic.

[Riding Ghost]

Heh.

Yeah, never said that was a bad thing.

In fact, it's a good thing I think, since the Hulk and Ghost Rider happen to be my 2 favorite Marvel characters

:)

Oh ok, I misunderstood what you meant

[user123456789]

Can GR get his soul back from mephisto?

[FlameHead]

I think no. The deal was made and he is forever cursed. Plus, the essense of Ghost Rider was in him long before he made that deal with the devail. It was in his bloodline.

however at the end of the war of attrition, then there would be hell on earth, if hell won. But I think I see what your saying, that before the end of that war he wouldn't want demons runnin all over the place, good point C9. Like I said, I'm not dead set against the idea of the bounty hunter angle, I just think its wrong to say that that is less confusing than the original premise behind the Blaze GR and it wasn't neccessary to come up with something new when MSJ could've remained further faithful to the comic.

You have to remember that there is 20 years of history developed for this flaming headed demon... and two completly different storylines. This movie has to cater to both of those groups of fans... and there are elements of both in the movie, from what I can tell.

As for the devils bounty hunter, essentially, that's what Ghost Rider is. I just hasn't been put that way before.

[Hellcycle2000]

I'm not sure if Crash Simpson is in the movie, i think they replaced him w/ Barton Blaze instead, from what i see in the trailer.

http://home.comcast.net/~svgjr1975/spikes.bmp

[Bucknutty]

looks good

[3dman27]

would a movie about the original 19th century ghost rider aka night rider ,no tv series jokes please, work

[FlameHead]

It might work. I'm not really interested in it but, it might work.

I'm not sure if Crash Simpson is in the movie, i think they replaced him w/ Barton Blaze instead, from what i see in the trailer.

http://home.comcast.net/~svgjr1975/spikes.bmp

That's a good question. I wonder if they're gong to skip the whole adoption thing for the flick and sorta combine the two father figures... or maybe they'll still have Crash as the owner of the stunt show. Who knows really?

[Exabyte]

This board is looking RIP.

[Mr Nick]

Excuse me, Mr. Exabyte, but do you actually have anything to say relating to Ghost Rider? If you do, great, join in and let's talk. If not, please leave.

:mad:

[Hellcycle2000]

good point Mr. Nick


http://home.comcast.net/~svgjr1975/blaze.jpg

[murdock_matt]

I've never read the GR comics but I'm very excited about this film. Hopefully the success of MSJ's DD Director's Cut will give him more control over this project.

As for my question, there hasn't been much news on the front page lately concerning this project so does anyone know if principal photography has wrapped on this? I'm sure it has considering how long it's been in production. Where is this film in terms of progress? Any news on an official trailer?

[FlameHead]

Wow, somebody posted in this thread! Hurray!!

Principal photography has been finished for months now. They've been in post since June and I'm sure they're well on their way to a finished project. They digital effects is probably where they are spending most of their time and may have the movie fully edited by now, who knows? I'm sure Ghost Rider imagery is takin' up tonnes of their time.

As for the trailer, your guess is as good as everyone elses. I was personally hoping to see one by Halloweern, a teaser at least. It's a great time to start gettin' people hyped for it.

I'm hoping MSJ will pop in here someday soon to let us know how things are going. Keep your fingers crossed.

[MoPlaYa]

i cant wait for this movie to come out...or at least the trailer

[The_Game]

Anyone else seen the teaser trailer yet? What did you think? I think it looks good but i've never read the comic so dont have anything to compare it to. I could post the link if anyone wants to see it? Oh and while i'm on could sumone give me some background info on the characters Ghost rider, Mephisto (Fonda looks good in the teaser), Blackheart, Wallow and Abigor

mms://205.178.146.40/191121/ghstrdrteasr.wmv

[Uncanny Orb]

I'd like to help you out but thats alot like work. Check out flameheads sig there a few sites there that will help you out. Thats not the official trailer BTW.

[str8raz0r]

Anyone else seen the teaser trailer yet? What did you think? I think it looks good but i've never read the comic so dont have anything to compare it to. I could post the link if anyone wants to see it? Oh and while i'm on could sumone give me some background info on the characters Ghost rider, Mephisto (Fonda looks good in the teaser), Blackheart, Wallow and Abigor

mms://205.178.146.40/191121/ghstrdrteasr.wmv

To make it easier on ya when you're info-hunting, remember that Abigor is brand-new for the movie, so you won't hear about him in the existing mythology. As far as the rest of 'em, so a Google Search or check out:

http://giantsizedghostrider.co.nr/

Although there's no real info on Wallow there...hrmmmm...:confused:

[Red]

Question how much use of GR's chain will be see in the movie?

[Weapon M]

Great have your question and answer segment at 4 in the afternoon when everyone else is at work, or doing something, couldnt think of doing it in the evening where more people would be on? or was this a christmas present for the true geeks out there. The ones that are always home 24/7?

[FlameHead]

What are you gettin' on with Weapon?

[screenamesuck]

So now it's a crime if you do not post on Weapon's schedule, sheesh I better be more careful. See thats the great thing about the internet Weapon, you can post at 4 in the afternoon and someone will eventually see it a couple of hours later. We don't all need to sign on at the same time and post. As for Red, I would put your question in the Ask MSJ threads to get a better answer

[FlameHead]

Yeah Red, this thread is basically for those who aren't familiar with the character or the universe. Specific questions about the movie can go in the ASk MSJ thread of the new Ask Gary Foster thread.

Who knows what Weapon was talkin' about man. Who knows...

[Redskulled]

there is only one way to enter the matrix!

[ThunderHarrsion]

Ghost Rider.... The one thing i hate more then anything is teaser tailers...But Ghost is the shortest but the phatest I have ever seen. Its only 5 seconds And it's going to be the hottest movie when it comes out. Poeple who dont know are gonna know who Ghost Rider is. One Bad MO FO..For Real

~THUNDER~

[user123456789]

Just wanted to express how i feel about GR's release date being pushed back to 2007.

:down :down :down :down :down :down :down

[the Firestarter]

ghost rider as mephisto's hired hand (with a conscience) works for me.

[antonydelfini]

why was johnny blaze chosen as the film's ghost rider and not daniel ketch? has msj said anything about how they chose between the two?

[sparky_parker]

Can somebody tell me what the ghostrider 2099 series is about and if it's any good?

[Weapon M]

Ghost Rider is like the Headless Horsemen, but a super hero right??

LOL its a longstory, buy the comic book, or why are you asking us? you should just google ghostrider, or go to Marvel.com. and then you would know who he is.... That'd be the best thing.

[FrankCastle6]

yea...marvel.com has a good bio of him...

[Uncanny Orb]

Can somebody tell me what the ghostrider 2099 series is about and if it's any good?
GR 2099 is about a guy named Zero Chocrane with a serious authority complex who realizes that he is about to be mudered and uploads his consciousness
onto the web and discovers a group of beings that have evolved there. They put him into the body of a warbot and turn him loose. He's completely different from any other GR, but the comic is violent and I for one really liked it and was sad to see it end. You can probably pick the comics up dirt cheap.

[Mr Nick]

I've got a question for you, Orb. Who exactly was the Uncanny Orb?

:confused:

[Uncanny Orb]

He was part owner of the cycle show that Roxanne's father owned but lost his half in a race against Crash Simpson, he wiped out and was horribly disfigured and wears that crazy helmet.

[Red]

Anyone have a link to Goyer's script?

[Red]

Edited

[Red]

Sorry.

[FlameHead]

I'm not sure you know what spam is Red.

MM is right, the Goyer script isn't available for viewing.

[Red]

Sorry again.

[FlameHead]

I've known MM for quite a while now. I've read thousands of his posts. He's not trolling and if he's slaggin' you off, it's because you're demanding something not available. MM is only trying to help.

[Red]

Still sorry.

[wolfsfang]

Red X nothing people said was meant as an insult but you asked for something that nobody is allowed to share with you and then proceeded to say that they (probably meaning Sony and MSJ , who actually visits these forums) would not know because you asked them to PM it to you.

I'm sorry but your request is out there for the world to see so they would know (or at least strongly suspect)

[C. Lee]

Well I won't be returning to this section any who, I don't come to a forum for unprovocted insults.
But the thing is...YOU provocted it.

YOU asked for the script....he told you that for legal reasons you can't have it....you cussed him out.

A PM will follow.

[Red]

Sorry for my outbirsts people.

[FlameHead]

No worries Red. Glad you came back.

Trust me, there's a good bunch of people here who'll do anything for anyone (so I believe anyway) provided the person is kind themselves. Whoever has the script probably would have broken laws and shared it with you if you took the time to get to know us... which I hope you still do.

Edit: Hmm... I can't call you Red. I'll call you X.

[wolfsfang]

No worries Red. Glad you came back.

Trust me, there's a good bunch of people here who'll do anything for anyone (so I believe anyway) provided the person is kind themselves. Whoever has the script probably would have broken laws and shared it with you if you took the time to get to know us... which I hope you still do.

Edit: Hmm... I can't call you Red. I'll call you X.

yeah not to mention that scipts like these normally end up on sites such as simplyscripts.com but I'm not promising anything

[Red]

Thanks for the help wolfsfang, but I think it's best we drop it now, I wasn't aware of the legality of it all.

[FlameHead]

Nope, no Goyer scrip there..... BUT, I did find this Ghost Rider Script:
http://www.simplyscripts.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?search=ghost+rider&method=exact

It's by Kevin Myers? Who that is, I don't know. There are 5 listings on IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/find?q=Kevin+Myers&sourceid=mozilla-search

If he's one of them, I don't know. Could be a fan script. Seems that way from some of the reading...

Anyone?

[wolfsfang]

Thanks for the help wolfsfang, but I think it's best we drop it now, I wasn't aware of the legality of it all.

Don't worry the scripts there are normally legal.

If it's there it is allowed to be

[Kanon]

Ok, I'm not really a noob, but I have a question that seems noobish... Who is this guy, riding with GR?
http://www.superherohype.com/images/grartworkexclusive1.jpg
I thought it was just artwork, but I saw him in the trailer... Is he suppossed to be some previous incarnations or something?

[Uncanny Orb]

Pretty much everyone agrees it's caretaker who may be a GR from days gone by, although it's not GR continuity.

[spidey4fun]

Anyone know when the movies due for release? Parts of it were filmed pretty close to where I live....Superman was filmed in Sydney after...yet Sups opens at the movie very soon....so what up with Ghost rider?

[BIGGUN]

Anyone know when the movies due for release? Parts of it were filmed pretty close to where I live....Superman was filmed in Sydney after...yet Sups opens at the movie very soon....so what up with Ghost rider?


release date in the US is Feb 07...Australia March 07...
here is the site w/ the dates:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/international/

[spidey4fun]

release date in the US is Feb 07...Australia March 07...
here is the site w/ the dates:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/international/

Cheers :up:

[FlameHead]

Nope. Still no Canada.

[PWN3R]

Apologizing edits are great lol! :up:

[screenamesuck]

Everything you need to catch up on the story of Ghost Rider can be found here also....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider#Western_Ghost_Rider

[MrkLrn13]

I have a question (I don't really follow Ghost Rider, so...):

Who is that cowboy-looking skeleton that looks like the Ghost Rider, but he was riding a horse?

Thanks in advance.

[screenamesuck]

That is Caretaker. It is said that he was once Ghost Rider, but now he pretty much guides Blaze and helps him understand his new powers. Thats the easiest answer I can give I guess. Maybe we will end up seeing both on screen at the same time fighting together.

[Marjorie]

I recently saw the trailer for Ghost Rider when I went to see X-Men 3. I wanted to get more background information on the character, and I have tried over several days to go to that vengeance unbound link. It never works for me.:( Is anybody else having trouble accessing that site?

[screenamesuck]

New address....

http://ghostrider.omegacen.com/

[Marjorie]

New address....

http://ghostrider.omegacen.com/

Thank you very much!!!!!

[screenamesuck]

Not a problem

[webhead731]

Please clear some of this up for me.

Johnny Blaze makes a deal with Mephisto (Satan) to save his dying father. Mephisto takes his soul so it's now his and he owns it. When Blackheart wants to make a better Hell, Mephisto makes Johnny become Ghost Rider to....What? stop him? Capture escaped people from Hell?

Penance Stare is one of Ghost Rider's powers and it makes people feel the pain they have caused other people? So if they shot somebody they feel it and know the pain and feelings?

Did I get this right? Please help soon.

Thanks.:up:

[BIGGUN]

Johnny Blaze makes a deal with Mephisto (Satan) to save his dying father. Mephisto takes his soul so it's now his and he owns it. When Blackheart wants to make a better Hell, Mephisto makes Johnny become Ghost Rider to....What? stop him? Capture escaped people from Hell?

Penance Stare is one of Ghost Rider's powers and it makes people feel the pain they have caused other people? So if they shot somebody they feel it and know the pain and feelings?


yup...GR has been Mephisto's bounty hunter for years it seems. whenever something escapes hell its GR's job to bring it back or destroy it maybe.
from what i gathered young Blaze makes a deal knowing that sometime later in the future Mephisto will come calling for payment. i dont think Blaze knows whats in store for him...he may just think hes going to hell.

yeah the penance stare reflects all the pain that you have inflicted on other people, 100 times more intense, and yes all the emotional and physical pain from everyone you ever hurt. i was reading in a interview w/ Howard Mackie (writer of the 90s series) that only people that have extremely strong wills could eventually recover or have little effect. he even said the Kingpin would be strong enough to shake the effects off after some time

[webhead731]

So umm, what if all you have ever done was rip a hair off someone's head?:D

Thanks for the info. 90's series? What's that? Spider-Man?

You wouldn't know how he would stop Blackheart from making a new Hell would you?

And what about when innocent blood is spilled? Doesn't he fight thugs too?

[BIGGUN]

we always been referring to the 2nd GR series as the "90s series"...since well it was in 1990-98. just easier to call it that..
no idea on Blackheart...
but yeah he fights thugs or anyone that hurts innocent people. demon, monster, human...doesnt matter to him

[webhead731]

So he will do that in the movie?

[screenamesuck]

yeah, they were talking about a scene where Blaze is put in jail. I'm sure he ends up turning into the rider and taking a few inmates out.

[weezerspider]

yeah, they were talking about a scene where Blaze is put in jail. I'm sure he ends up turning into the rider and taking a few inmates out.

Now that would be sweet.

[webhead731]

I like.:D

[FlameHead]

So he will do that in the movie?

In the teaser, there's a quick shot where you see a bunch of thugs crowded Ghost Rider before he creates some sort of atomic blast to blow they off and away. So, I would say yes, he'll do that in the movie.

Perhaps that's part of the prison scene... hmm...

[webhead731]

Yeah I remember that!:)

[FlameHead]

LoL. Thanks for solvin' that mystery MM. Shouldn't known you had something to do with it.

[tarnished_knigh]

First of all...Great communtiy here. I have been a follower of the Rider for a long time, and all the info I have seen here is pretty much dead on. I do have some info on Caretaker. It is not form any of the sites, but from my comic collection. They did a "what if" comic, that featured Blaxes mom as the spirt of Vengance, and it explained who Caretaker really is. In it, they explained why Johnny's, and Dan's call for vengance was answerd, and so many others are left unheard by Mephesto. It is a Blaze family curse. Caretaker is really the Grandfather of both Johnny, and Dan.

[FlameHead]

TK, welcome to the hype fellow Ghost Rider nut... well, welcome to the posting side of it anyway. It's neat to know that there are people around who regularly visit, but never post. Having said that, now that you do post, I hope you continue.

Do you remember what 'What If' that was? I'm not sure I'm familiar with the story but, I do know that in -1, Naomi Kale was the SOV. Is that the one your talkin' about?

[tarnished_knigh]

I think that it is FlameHead.I would say I would recheck my collection. but my ex wife destoryed it about 5 years ago, and have consintrated on only the GR's with Johnny, and Dan, and a few cross overs. Wish I had the issue in my hands, but untill I can find it again, most of my Gr knowledge has to some from memory.

[tarnished_knigh]

Just checjed a source, and it was the "What If" with Naomi Kale as the SOV. She left John at the Cranival, and Dan with his adoptive family.

[Batman2008]

Any news on the next trailer's release date?

[OoAnd1]

Hey great thread. I love Spider-Man, X-Men...the usual guys but never really paid attention to Ghost Rider. But when I bought Silent Hill...it had this great trailer for this movie. It actually made me check out the Ghost Rider boards. He graphically looks cool and the character and dilema seems interesting. Though, I still don't know much about him.

Anyway, I just wondered what you guys thought the feel of the movie would be. Not knowing much about the character, he seems similar to Spawn/Blade/Constatine type characters. Spawn and Blade are dark movies but I don't know, something was missing. Constatine on the other hand, I liked more since I just liked the atmosphere the movie had.

In what direction do you guys think the feel of the movie is going or should go?

[Mr Nick]

Welcome! Ghost Rider is a indeed a very cool character.

The tone of the movie as described by the director, Mark Steven Johnson, is 'gothic western.' Of course, there'll be bags of action as well!

For more info, check out the 'Questions already answered by MSJ' thread. It don't get more reliable than that.

:)

[Ghost Ridin']

The movie looks great, I hope they put in a chase seen with the hellcycle and the cops that way we can see what the hellcycle can really do. :ghost:

["Iron Man"]

GHOST RIDER will be such a good movie.


I didn't even know about GR until last year when I heard about the film. But now that I've studied up on him...he's one of my favorite comic characters!

I cant wait for the new trailer. MSj has told me we can expect it soon.....(probably early fall)

[Mr Nick]

The movie looks great, I hope they put in a chase seen with the hellcycle and the cops that way we can see what the hellcycle can really do. :ghost:

If there isn't at least one major ass-kicker of a chase scene, I shall be very upset.

:sym:

[Ghost Ridin']

If there isn't at least one major ass-kicker of a chase scene, I shall be very upset.

:sym:



My thoughts exactly.

[BrollySupersj]

If there isn't at least one major ass-kicker of a chase scene, I shall be very upset.

:sym:

I heard that GR gets chased by a helicopter, ergo why he's on the roof.

[Ghost Ridin']

I can't wait for the movie.

I always thought if they make a Ghost Rider movie they should treat it kind of like Terminator 2.

Like a man is normal during the day but at night he's like the terminator you know he'll ride on his bike and hunt people down, people try to run him over, shoot him, and stab him but he just doesn't stop.
He'd just keep going until they pay for what they have done.
He may be going around killing things but he's still the "good guy".

If not Arnold's Terminator then the evil one from T2 you know fast, powerful, and ruthless.

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

[bitterboy_sk8]

hi guys im a newbie here

first of all its nice to be here

and since flamehead's our topic

ive been looking for the "medallion of power" photo or something, but i cant find any...

does anybody here knows a good wesite where i can DL a medallion of power jpeg???

or dyou guys have any???

hope to hear from you soon

tanx alot and have a pleasant day

[FlameHead]

Welcome to the hype bitterboy and more specifically to the GR forums. We still need more friends here so, stick around.

I found this pic of the medallion in my collection. Hope it's what you're looking for.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9897/medallionofpowercopy5qhzt2.jpg

[NDX]

FA, wasn't that the MoP made my Midnyte Sun?

[bitterboy_sk8]

tnx alot bro flame head!

that made my day

and it was really nice being here

[FlameHead]

No problemo man. Come again.

FA, wasn't that the MoP made my Midnyte Sun?

Quite possibly, yes. It's awesome regardless.

[NDX]

Oh yes, it is. But awesomeness aside, as an artist, I have to ask did you get his permission to repost his work? Many artists, such as myself, request that people do not distribute, alter or reproduce without expressed permission.

Now, I don't know if Midnyte Sun feels the same way, but it's better to ask before you post someone else's work directly.

[FlameHead]

You definitely have a point NDX but when somebody posts openly on the board, I think it's a little different.

Either way, I hope he doesn't mind.

[NDX]

Actually, if the original artist posts it on the board, it was them posting it, and not a third party. I know when I post my art on an online forum I expect others to understand that it is not to be reproduced without permission. On most occassions that is a given. I write it in my DA submissions only because I have had issues in the past of people stealing my art for their own personal use.

Posting it opening, on a forum or otherwise, does not give others the right to post it elsewhere without permission. Having had this discussion with many other artists over the place, most feel the same.

Also, you could have easily posted a link to the image's original page (or directly to the image) and not the image itself and all would have been fine.

[FlameHead]

Yes, I could have, if I had any idea where it came from. Like I said, I found it in my huge collection of Ghost Rider images and posted it. I really see no problem with it. I understand were you're coming from but, I really don't think I did anything wrong. It's not like I claimed that I created it or something.

[NDX]

From this thread here: http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224294

True, you did not credit for the piece, but you also didn't supply credit to MS for making it. I probably wouldn't have brought anything if he was credited.

If you might have forgotten who drew it, you could do what I do, put the artist's name in the title of the drawings downloaded.

[FlameHead]

I didn't supply credit because I had no idea who created it, where it came from or anything of the sort. I was just helping a fellow GR fan with a request.

Regardless, I'll keep your remarks in mind the next time I do such a thing. Thank you.

[Ghost Ridin']

I know this is off topic but I was watching Face/Off and I saw how good Nic Cage was at looking and acting crazy and I thought to myself huh he would have made a good Joker for the Dark Knight.

During Face/Off after he wakes up from the coma to find his face missing he calls that guy and he starts screaming and laughing all crazy the laughing sounded like Mark Hamil's Joker but darker.


What do you guys think ? I know Heath Legger is Joker now but what if ?

P.S. Face/Off is a great movie if you haven't seen it and you like Nic Cage you should it has great acting.

:ghost: :batty: :ghost: :batty: :ghost:

[Ghost Ridin']

Yeah here's a pic not a great one but here you see a little of the crazy I was talking about.

What a difference!
http://t1.images.live.com/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=749653210070&id=d753c0c774cc6100d53abfe635c45a47 http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/user/profiles/77/100001077/20843ab2e8492f5d.jpg
:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

[IFdude]

I guess this would be a good place to ask my question. Does anyone know whether or not Zarathos is mentioned in the upcoming movie? What I mean is will he be mentioned by name as the demon that is joined with Blaze to make Ghost Rider or are they going to ignore that bit of continuity and just say he was cursed by Mephisto and no demon particulars are to be mentioned?
I heard an early script included his name in the story but a lot can change in 3 years. So if anyone knows any particulars I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know.


Later,

Kyle

[writer6886]

Look I need help on three things. I am a Ghost Rider fan and found some info on Ghost Rider but still have questions. Noble Kale AKA Ghost Rider brought Danny back to life and the two parted. However Noble needed a host and Danny agreed to join making him once again Ghost Rider.

question one how many Danny Ketch comics are there?

two What happened to Danny's Love stacy?

Three the last appearance as far as I know of Danny was a Spiderman comic. What comic was that?

Thank you for your time.

writer

[FlameHead]

Hey writer. Welcome to the hype!

The Dan Ketch run lasted for 93 issues. It also had a -1 and 2 annuals, plus Dan/Noble made plenty of appearances elsewhere. The last appearance in Spidey that you're referring to was in issue 93 of Spider-Man.

As for Stacy, she became a cop (and more) and ended up obsessed with takin' Ghost Rider down.

[writer6886]

Really because in Ghost Rider 51 she seemed okay with Ghost Rider. I remeber hearing Jennifer Kale erased Danny's secret identity from most of his friends and family is that what happened to Stacy? The two made a great couple and I was hoping for a happy ending for the two. Anyway thanks for the first reply I start looking for that comic.

Thank you again,

writer

[HAMACKIE]

Okay, I am new to these boards, so let's try and be kind. I really just wanted to post somewhere that Mark Steven Johnson might read(and I saw that he gave a shout out to this site at the San Diego Con). I FINALLY have seen the GR trailer(long story) and I absolutely loved what I saw. It looked like every issue of the comic that I ever read, or wrote, playing out on the screen. Very excited that Sam Eliot was cast as Caretaker. First, Caretaker was absolutely the favorite character that I created(followed closely by Skinner) AND Sam Eliot was exactly who I was thinking of when I described him to the artist. Then again, I used to think of Sam ELiot for most major characters, always loved him as an actor... and would have loved to have seen him(years ago) cast as Aragorn in Lord of the Rings.

Anyway, Mark(if you are reading this) great job. Looking forward to putting down my bucks to see the movie.

Howard Mackie

[FlameHead]

Okay... well...

Of course, we're all going to be very suspicious of this at first Howard. I personaly am the type to believe you are who you say you are but, there are others who won't... even though both Javier Saltares and MSJ already post here, so really there is no reason to believe Howard Mackie wouldn't.

Anyhoo, regardless, welcome to the hype. Mark hasn't been around in a while... not posting anyway. He says he checks it all the time so, I'm sure he'll see your post. Perhaps you'll sucessfully pull him out of the woodwork, who knows?

And if you are really the Howard Mackie we all know and love, thank you very much for joining us. You have no idea how obessed your run of GR has made me with the character. No idea. It wasn't all you of course; Saltares, Tex and you was the best tandum ever created. No bull****.

Again, welcome.

[BIGGUN]

Hey Howard...(if that is your real name :woot: )
welcome to the board.
think we can all say thanks for getting GR back on track in the early 90s. if it wasn't for you and the hard work of Saltares and Texeria poor Ghostie would probably still be in comic book limbo right now.
also thanks for showing some support for the movie...w/ the negative comment by the cynical internet crowd it sure is nice to here some good ones from the actual creators.

[HAMACKIE]

It really is me... I'm pretty sure... wait! Yep! Just checked my driver's license...it's me. Really do not know how else to prove it. Only heard about this site when I saw the San Diego Con panel with MSJ. Appreciate the kind words... and YES... it had a lot to do with Javier and Tex. I was very lucky.

Howard

[HAMACKIE]

<<Of course, we're all going to be very suspicious of this at first Howard.>>

Now that I think about it... if you read alll of the negative stuff written about me online... would anyone else admit to being me?
Howard

[HAMACKIE]

<<think we can all say thanks for getting GR back on track in the early 90s. if it wasn't for you and the hard work of Saltares and Texeria poor Ghostie would probably still be in comic book limbo right now.>>

It was EASY...because I LOVED the character and especially those last bunch of issues written by J.M.DeMatteis!

<<also thanks for showing some support for the movie...w/ the negative comment by the cynical internet crowd it sure is nice to here some good ones from the actual creators.>>

I REALLY cannot wait to see the movie. The trailer(which I saw VERY late) blew me away. When you write a comic book you see tghe pictures MOVING in your minds eye...THAT is what I saw in the trailer. I recognized panels,covers, pages,etc... GR walking toward the camera was Javier's GR. I am so psyched. THIS is the real deal.

Howard

[NDX]

<<Of course, we're all going to be very suspicious of this at first Howard.>>

Now that I think about it... if you read alll of the negative stuff written about me online... would anyone else admit to being me?
Howard

There are some serious nutjobs out there. I've been accused of being so myself. I assure you I am not, however.

Well, it's actually impressive to see some of the more influential people from my childhood showing up on the Hype. Jarv, you. Now all we need it TEX and about all is set.

Welcome aboard.

I'd feel dirty shamelessly plugging the few Ghost Rider drawings I have posted in the links in my signature. And I did it anyway.

[BIGGUN]

moved my questions to here:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10225489&posted=1#post10225489

[FlameHead]

Okay, so that was quick. Awesome.

Howard, I created you're own thread:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251601

And for the record, not everyone hated you. Ask anyone; I defend the Ketch era proudly.

[Mr Nick]

Howard, your Ghost Rider (well and Jarv's and Tex's!) was what got me into the character.

Just a quick thank you!

:yay:

[Redvelvetdragon]

Hi, welcome Howard, LOL...yes I know the last post was in Sept, I'm late :oldrazz: .

Anyway, since I'm a relative newbie, I've got a GR question. I chose to believe that GR is bones and flames. My husband believes this too, though I guess some may beg to differ. Anyway, my question is this, however goofy it may sound (I've got a warped sense of humor at times, LOL)...

Is this guy, either JB or DK stuck wearing his leathers all the time? Are these leathers magical that they don't burn? For example, if one day he's wearing his bathrobe and he transforms will the bathrobe other clothes burn away?

Does his hellfire actually burn or is it an image?

Ok, enough goofiness, LOL.

[FlameHead]

Hey Redvelvet, the best place to ask Howard some questions is in the thread that was created for him, which is located here: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251601&page=3

He checks in frequently so, ask away....

Having said that, I could probably answer your questions.... if you don't mind me doing so. Hellfire is not real fire. It's a mystical force and almost an entity to itself. It does not burn the way real fire does and also can not be extinguished. For example, it burns under water (which is going to be awesome to see, by the way).

As for the clothes, it depends on which GR you're taking about. The DK version had his clothes he was wearing replaced by GR's costume during the transformation but, Blaze didn't. In the movie, it seems that GR will wear whatever Blaze does... which is the leather garb we all know and love. Apparently, his 'costume' upgrades as the movie progresses. Also, the metal found on his clothes is affected by the hellfire causing spikes to grow on his shoulders and all that neat stuff.

Anyway, I hope that helps and be sure to check out Howards thread.

[Redvelvetdragon]

Nope it wasn't a Howard question it was just a general GR question.

Thanks you did great at answering! :) Though I still think it would be funny if he's brushing his teeth in his bathrobe and then poof, GR. "Oh geez, again? That's the 5 bathrobe this week!"

:woot:

[FlameHead]

LoL. Yeah, that would be funny... and they wouldn't have to worry about nudity either. Ghost Rider doesn't get a boner... well, not really.

[Redvelvetdragon]

ROTFLMAO!!!

*rim shot*

I remember hearing stories about when Star Wars was first released how the censor board was very concerned that Chewbacca wasn't wearing pants. Somehow I have a feeling they'd worry about GR being naked bones! Oh the indecency! Your skeleton is showing!

[Steel Soldier]

I wish we could see those clips the "officials" saw. I want to see the demon fight, plus GR flipping off the authorities.:ghost:

[TwilightPro101]

I'm pro-Howard. Have been ever since I read his work on Spider-man and the Dan Ketch era. Missing that era these days in fact, not that I'm not loving the return of Blaze.

[Darkest Knight]

Question...

Is Johnny Blaze or the cure of the Ghost Rider in control of Blaze's body and actions when he turns into Ghost Rider?

[PenanceStare]

Depends on who's writing. Orginally, Blaze was bonded with a demonic being, and the two them fought for dominance as Ghost Rider, however, other portrayals have Blaze mainly in control.

[FlameHead]

That pretty much only came with the new series. Ghost Rider has always been a seperate entity. They both had their own personalities. The first Ghost Rider was an ******* though and tried to take full control (mainly because he wasn't a 'real' Ghost Rider) but, in the 90's, the two worked together creating a stronger overall being.

[BrollySupersj]

I take it we see Johnny B, Care Taker and everyone else for a while. BUT how much will we see Ghost Rider.

2 times

3 times

4 times

5 times.

Which is your vote?

[webhead731]

Atleast 4 probably.

If not that, three very long transformations.

MSJ is a smart person, he won't give the main attraction to the story short screentime.:up:

[King Ruler]

Every time I see the GR commercials, they keep talking about the deal he made years ago, and every time they talk about the deal, they show Eva/Roxanne. Now are they implying that the deal was to save Roxanne, or his father like in the comics?

[Midnyte_Sun]

I saw this too, i think its some clever advertising on the part of Sony. Although, because of the deal, he had to leave Roxanne too...so maybe theres the connection.

[FlameHead]

It's his father. I guess he sold his sole outta love and let it stay away (by ultimately learning to live with Ghost Rider) because of love... or something like that.

Clever marketing indeed with Roxy though. The love story, no doubt, will be ever apparent in the film.

[Tempest19]

Well, he sold his soul for both his father and Roxanne.

His father's cancer is what prevents him from running away with Roxanne, due to his guilty conscience of leaving his father alone. But, when his father is 'saved' (not really) by the devil, Johnny now feels that he can finally run away with Roxanne.

So, in a way he sold his soul both for his father's health which would in turn include being able to run off.

[BURNFOREVER]

Everybody knows that, of course. But in the comics, Johnny made a deal to save his father-in-law, Rocky´s dad, Crash Simpson, who was diyng from Cancer.
MSJ maybe simplify the story making Johnny saving his father, Barton Blaze.

[webhead731]

The story of Johnny's past, and the whole father thing is depressing and sad. I've read it in the novel. I feel sorry for him.:(