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Elijya
07-04-2005, 10:50 AM
To people looking for recommendations: Whether you've just started reading comics and are looking for what's good, or are an old-timer who thinks he's running out of things to read, we welcome you. I hope you find the recommendations contained in this thread helpful, and I assure you I try to only recommend things I find to be at the top of the pile of quality, although our views may differ from time to time. Even if it fits into a genre you've not previously been a fan of, I encourage you to give them all a try anyway, as the books below are of the best stories comics have to offer, and the best works in any genre often transcend their genre. Also, we always recommend you start at the begining of any series, as most books are quite linear, and jumping on in the middle will sometimes ruin the surprise of great events that happened before.

if you are having difficulty finding a place to get these books, I can tell you that most Borders, Walden Books, and Barnes and Noble have small graphic novel sections, and should be able to order many graphic novels for you that they do not keep in stock. Also, www.the-master-list.com will assist you in finding your nearest comicbook stores. If you've never been to a comicbook store before or recently, I highly recommend you stop by one and hopefully will find a pleasent conversation with the clerk on duty, and may see some more things you enjoy. Lastly, graphic novels can be found at www.amazon.com, www.ebay.com, www.milehighcomics.com, www.dreamlandcomics.com, www.talesofwonder.com, and www.instocktrades.com . I hope this will all be helpful to you. Happy reading!


ORT ver 2.0 (A work in progress): http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235880

Index
Page 1
1-100 Bullets
2-V for Vendetta
3-Transmetropolitan
4-District X
5-Preacher
6-Runaways
7-Daredevil
Page 2
8-Planetary
9-Y-The Last Man
10-Sentry
11-Books of Magic
12-Batman: The Killing Joke
13-Lucifer
14-Superman: Red Son
15-Marvel Team-Up
16-Camelot 3000
Page 3
17-Thunderbolts
18-Kingdom Come
19-Spider-Man/Human Torch
20-Powers
21-Thor
22-Hammer of the Gods
23-Barry Ween Boy Genius
24-The Mask
25-Invincible
26-The Walking Dead
27-Young Avengers
28-Marvels
Page 4
29-X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills
30-Bloodhound
31-Taskmaster
32-Strangers in Paradise
33-Starman
34-Fables
35-Elfquest
36-Green Arrow
37-Green Lantern/Green Arrow
38-Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters
Page 5
39-Daredevil: Wake Up
40-Mutant X
41-Young Justice
41-Dr. Strange and Dr.Doom: Triumph and Torment
43-The Death of Captain Marvel
44-Squadron Supreme
45-Supreme Power
46-Animal Man
Page 6
47-Avengers Forever
48-Uncle Sam
49-Empire
50-Scurvy Dogs
Page 7
51-Rex Mundi
52-Wildguard
53-Girls
54-Ultra
55-Caper
56-Concrete
Page 8
57-Operation: Galactic Storm
58-The Infinity Gauntlet
59-Wanted
60-JLA: Tower of Babel
61-JLA: Year One
62-She-Hulk
63-Great Lakes Avengers
64-Arkham Asylum: Living Hell
65-Spectacular Spider-man: The Child Within
66-The Tick
67-Boris the Bear
68-Top Ten
69-Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
70-Sleeper
Page 9
71-The Question
72-Elektra Lives Again
73-Ronin
74-Arkham Asylum
Page 10
75-Challengers of the Unknown
76-DC: The New Frontier
77-Watchmen
78-Sandman
79-Invisibles (mutant, I hope you don't mind but I'm gonna re-do these later)
80-Superman: Secret Identity
81-Astro City
82-Batman: The Long Halloween
83-Daredevil: Born Again
Page 11
84-The Authority
85-Ultimates
86-Judge Dredd
87-American Flagg
88-Ex Machina
89-Howard the Duck
Page 12
90-Space Ghost
91-The Ring, the Arrow, and the Bat
92-Conan (1970)
93-Conan (2003)
94-Promethea
Page 13
95-Punisher: Born
96-Batman: Year One
Page 14
97-Startling Stories: Banner
98-Tilting at Windmills
99-The Losers
100-Lone Wolf and Cub
101-The Coffin
102-Deep Sleeper
103-The Atheist
Page 15
104-Nightwing: Year One
105-Pedro and Me
Page 16
106-Squee's Big Giant Book of Unspeakable Horrors
107-The Golden Age
Page 17
108-Wolverine: Enemy of the State
109-Alias
110-Star Wars Tales
111-The Flash: Blitz
112-Shaolin Cowboy
113-Doc Frankenstein
Page 18
114-Superman:Exile
115-Black Panther by Christopher Priest
116-Captain America: The New Deal
117-Daredevil: Guardian Devil
118-Fantastic Four: Unthinkable
Page 19
119-Earth X
Page 20
120-Sandman
121-Bone
Page 21
122- Akira
123-MAUS

Ok, so we get people asking for recommendations at least once a month. Now, instead of us each responding to each of these requests with lists of what we all suggest, let's just have an official recommendation thread we can point them too.

Now, I've long had issues with people simply making lists of good books. I think it's important to pitch books to people, tell them what they're about instead of just giving them a title. Show some artwork That way, they can judge for themselves a little better. Cause let's face it, there's a LOT of books out there we could all recommend. Let people pick what sounds interesting to them, and let them judge that by more than just the name of the book.

So what I'd ask you all to do is if you want to recommend something here, at least give a short paragraph or so about what the books is about and why you like it. Also tell them where they should start, how many books are in the series and such. Post images from the book, too. As a general policy, let's try and have it be stories that are avalabe in trade, not just arcs from in the middle of a book that will never be reprinted. Then, just link people here whenever they ask for something

Elijya
07-04-2005, 10:55 AM
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Title: Invincible
Writer/Artist: Robert Kirkman, Ryan Ottley, Cory Walker
Publisher: Image

Amazon.com listing:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158240500X/sr=8-1/qid=1139501894/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-9396336-0621452?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Invincible is the Eisner Award-nominated top selling Image book, created and written by Robert Kirkman (same guy who's doing The Walking Dead, Marvel Zombies, Marvel Team Up, and Ultimate X-Men). Here's the pitch from the back of volume one:

"Mark Grayson is just like most everyone else his age. He's a senior at a normal American high School. He has a crappy part time job after school and on weekends. He likes girls quite a bit... but doesn't quite understand them. He enjoys hanging out with his friends, and sleeping late on Saturdays... at least until the good cartoons come on. The only difference between Mark and everyone else is that his father is the most powerful superhero on the planet, and as of late, he seems to be inheriting his father's powers. Strange things begin to happen to Mark Grayson as he begins to develop superpowers. Luckily, his dad is around to show him the ropes, at least he would be if he weren't so busy saving the world all the time. "

But that's just the begining. Over only two years, Kirkman has not only developed Mark and his father into amazingly fleshed out characters, he's created a whole world around Mark that rivals the entire Marvel or DC Universes in variety and creativity. The twists are non stop, as is the fun. The plot is no holds barred, and you truly don't know what is going to happen next. The storytelling is top notch, and it is downright the best superhero title being published today.

Format: So far there's six softcover volumes collecting the first 26 issues. But the Hardcovers are the real bargain, as they contain three softcovers each, plus a load of bonus material, for cheaper than the softcovers. You can buy the volume 1 HC for an incrediblly low $23 at Amazon (softcovers they ask $10 a peice for). Buy it, and get hooked!




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Elijya
07-04-2005, 11:05 AM
Warning: Adult Content. The recommended book below contains foul language, and may contain nudity or other material you may find offensive

100 Bullets has a really simple yet compelling premise: this mysterious man named Agent Graves travels around the world and finds people who's lives have been wrong in one way or another. He then gives them a briefcase. Inside the briefcase is a picture of the person responsible for messing up their lives, irrevocable proof that they did it, a gun, and one hundred rounds of ammunition. He then tells them that they have Carte Blanche - no law enforcement agency in the world will be able to touch them if they choose to act on the information he has given them. Then, he walks away. He never tells them to go out and take revenge, he simply gives them the opportunity, and everyone handles that oppurtunity differently. along the way are stories or the overall grander conspiracy of the story. 'Who is this man? how can he do this? WHY is he doing this? who does he work for?' and so forth. Upon it's completeion, the series will be exactly 100 issues long (it's up to about 60 now) and the writer has had every single issue plotted out from day one. Some really compelling stuff, and a truly great crime noir story. The series is actually taught in several crime literature courses at colleges in the US

Currently, there are 9 trades collecting the issues printed so far, and it's preferable to read them in order. Volume 3, Hang Up On the Hang Low, does stand by itself and won the 2001 Eisner Award for Best Serialized Story. The series will conclude with issue #100

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563896451/sr=8-2/qid=1147111779/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-3344160-2669567?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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rigel7soldiers
07-04-2005, 11:18 AM
Damn, you said Transmet already. Umm.... Let's go with Preacher. As far as I'm concerned, the last ish is all you need, but pick up the rest if you realy feel like it. The Saint of Killers is cooler thn anything. Be forewarned: the inbred retarded descendant of Jesus is in this. Just a heads up. Jesse Custer is a preacher who is given the Word of God, meaning that if he says something, you do it... and that's where it gets kinda hazy. Pick it up, it's great.

Marc
07-04-2005, 11:22 AM
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V For Vendetta

Arguably Moore's best work, in which he deals with the line between vigilante, rebel and terrorist. A subtle story in times of unsubtle ruling, a totalitarian government has sought to control its people in a 1984-like state. A victim of their control is a man who calls himself 'V', he has set upon himself the task of freeing the minds of the public using violent yet poetic means. He is joined early on by a girl named Evey who he saves from people who have inevitably abused their power. An innocent, impressionable girl who immediately falls in love with the idea of rebelling only to find out it has its costs. 'V' is not a character with his path laid out clearly, with views spelled out and not much known about his personal leanings and yet we seem to know everything about him. You'll find something recognisable to you in his character and his actions are all the richer for it.

A must read by any definition.

rigel7soldiers
07-04-2005, 11:32 AM
funny, these are all published by Vertigo, a DC impint, but this is in the Marvel forum.

Darthphere
07-04-2005, 12:06 PM
District X

District X is one of the lesser known of the mutant titles but one of the best. District X focuses on Ishmael Ortega, a NYPD police officer working in District X, a mutant only town. Ishmael is joined by Bishop, a hard nosed detetcive sent in to help bring peace to District X. What you see is no superhero antics, no super villains but a gritty, intelligent, and entertaining cop drama. If you need an escape from the big superhero battles, than District X is your book. Its really heart wrenching and makes you feel for Ismael who himself, has an extremely close bond to the mutants in District X. Check it out for yourself in TPB.

District X:Vol 1 Mr. M
District X:Vol 2 The Underground.

Elijya
07-04-2005, 12:17 PM
Warning: Adult Content. The recommended book below contains foul language, and may contain nudity or other material you may find offensive

Transmetropolitan - Do you know who Hunter S. Thompson was? if you don't, Hunter was the Author and main character of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He was a journalist for Rolling Stone in the seventies, and basicly they would send him out on assignments, he would snort, smoke, and inject every drug he could find in a half mile radius, then write his stories. He was bat **** insane, but also a genius. Transmetropolitan stars Spider Jerusalem, who is loosely based on Hunter, except the book is set about 2000 years in the future. Despite all of the insane technology of the age, people are still petty and weak. They still do drugs, just new drugs. The still fight, bicker, lie, cheat, steal, and are dumb enough to elect the biggest scumbag president to have ever lived, and Spider is going to take him down.

The wseries lasted 60 issues, with two specials, collected in 10 volumes, preferable to start from the begining. The first trade is only $7.95.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563894459/qid=1147112040/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-3344160-2669567?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

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WildCard
07-04-2005, 12:39 PM
Young Avengers

The only good thing with avengers in the title in over a year.

rigel7soldiers
07-04-2005, 12:41 PM
Young Avengers

The only good thing with avengers in the title in over a year.

*cough*GLA*coughcough*

Elijya
07-04-2005, 12:59 PM
Warning: Adult Content. The recommended book below contains foul language, and may contain nudity or other material you may find offensive

Preacher is about a young, alcoholic Texas Preacher named Jesse Custer. Raised on John Wayne movies, Jesse was forced into the ministry and is steadily losing his faith in God, in much part thanks to the hypocrites who make up his congregation. But all that changes when a half-angelic/half demonic being named Genesis escapes from Heaven. As powerful as God, but lacking a will of it's own, the creature makes it's way towards Earth seeking a host, and finds Jesse. Bonding with him in an explosion that destroys everyone in his town, Jesse is privilaged with all of the knowledge Genesis contains, in particular that God himself up and left Heaven. Reunited with his gun-toting Girlfriend Tulip, and his new best buddy, hard drinking Irish Vampire Cassidy, the group embarks on a quest to find God and make him answer for why the world is such a crummy place.

Both violent and hysterical, poignant and entertaining, it stands easily as one of the "must read" series in all of comicdom. The series is completely collected in 9 volumes.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563892618/qid=1147112107/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-3344160-2669567?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

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Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:18 PM
At some point, every teenager thinks their parents are evil - but what if they really were?

Runaways is a fantastic book from Marvel about 6 teenagers who find out their parents are an elite team of supervillains who have been controlling LA for the past 20 years. Working as a group, the kids begin investigating behind the scenes what it is their parents are up to, and along the way each find a sort of superpowered inheritance. They must learn the ropes of both of their new found identities and as a team. I always highly recommend this title because it is engaging, interesting and fun, and the teenage characterizations are spot on. Definitely the best new Marvel series in years.

The series was originally to be canceled with issue 18 of the first volume, however, the first trade paperback sold so well upon it's release the series was given a relaunch some months later. As of 2006, Issue 12 of volume 2 is out.

Instead of the more traditional trade paperbacks, the Runaways volumes were released in "digest sized" trades, each with 6 issues and only $7.99 apeice retail. #1-3 collect the first 18 issues of volume 1 volume, and #4 starts the begining of volume 2. A Hardcover edition of the first 18 issues is also available for $34.99 retail (less than $2 an issue, and you can get it cheaper on amazon.com or other sites) for those that want the series in full-size. This series is also a great thing to get younger kids and girls into comics, though it's definitely great for us older guys, too.

It's written by Brian K. Vaughan (eisner award winner writer of Y-The Last Man and Ex Machina).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785118764/qid=1147112132/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-3344160-2669567?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785113797/qid=1147112132/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-3344160-2669567?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

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Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:20 PM
What are some other Batman novels I should get? I already got both TLH and Y1,and felt pretty meh about both.Are there any other novels any better?

Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:22 PM
What are some other Batman novels I should get? I already got both TLH and Y1,and felt pretty meh about both.Are there any other novels any better?

if you didn't like those, you might be out of luck, as those are considered two of the best, along with the Dark Knight Returns

Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Hm.Oh well. How about DD?Where does Miller's run start?

Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:37 PM
Hm.Oh well. How about DD?Where does Miller's run start?

well, frank began as DD's artist with #158. But he started writing at #168, which was where Elektra was introduced. Franks run on DD is collected in the Daredevil Visionaires: Frank Miller series of trades


Since it's relaunch under the Marvel Knights line back in 1998, Daredevil has been one of the most incredible titles that Marvel has to offer, harking back to the dark and compelling days when Frank Miller relaunched the title, and some even say, exceding it.

Film maker Kevin Smith initially wrote the relaunch of the book, along with Joe Quesada on pencils, increasing reader interest with a tale that dabled with the supernatural. However, it was when Brian Michael Bendis took over the book with issue #26 that the title skyrocketed to award winning quality. Joined by the dark and hard boiled pencils of Alex Maleev, the book began 5 year run that was dark, twisted, and just excellent storytelling. The initial premise begins with a tabloid newspaper outing Daredevil's secret identity as Matt Murdock. Daredevil is now faced with the continuing battle of denying these claims, while being attacked from all sides by his enemies.

Kevin Smith's initial run is collected in the Daredevil: Guardian Devil trade, and the Bendis Maleev run begins in Daredveil vol 1: Underboss, and continues in Daredevil vol 2: Out. However, the Daredevil Hardcover vol 1-5 collections are actually CHEAPER than the softcovers combined, and contain much bonus material, and are well worth it. Vol 1 contains Smith run, as well as the run that followed it by David Mack. Volume 2 begins the Bendis Maleev run. Either is a fantastic starting point for the most consistently amazing book Marvel has perhaps EVER had.

Bendis and Maleev ended their run recently with issue #81, and new writer Ed Brubaker took over with #82. That would also make a good starting point, however, do not cheat yourself by skipping over Bendis and Maleev.

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(cover to DD HC vol 2, the begining of Bendis/Maleev)
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Varient
07-04-2005, 01:40 PM
*cough*GLA*coughcough*
Dude,.................


Don't Diss Great Lakes Avengers like that,.. Put more into it,...

Like:

Dan Slott, an up and coming great writer in the vein of those who started Marvel has written a good spin on the lamest Avengers in the Marvel Universe.

The Great Lakes Avengers is a projected one shot of how people who are heroic in heart but weak in power or know-how, (A couple of them have some kick-a** ability but use it poorly.), keep trying to save their part of the world,.. ignoring the jibes, laughter, the insults of the people around them.

Even Though I am Biased toward one of the Characters, I think Slott,... Heck,.. All those involved with the book have done an excellent JOB,.. Making marginal heroes folk you want to keep reading about,....

If you like "nutt in Cheek" humor,.. GLA is it.

I need to add that this wasn't the series I was going to suggest because I was hoping Mr. Slott finds a way to get saddled with those heroes long term,..

Me,.. I'll come back with We3 or GoldDigger.

Peace.

Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:40 PM
I already read Bendis' DD and love it.So all I need is Miller's run....

Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:42 PM
I already read Bendis' DD and love it.So all I need is Miller's run....
well ok, but the threads not just for you. Have you read DD: Yellow yet?

Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:43 PM
:confused: where did I say it was? And yeah,I've read all the color books

Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:44 PM
what about Vertigo books? have you read those yet?

Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:48 PM
Well,I saw V for Vendetta and something else on the racks,but I got TLH and Y1 instead.Dammit,if only I knew I wouldn't like them :mad: :(

Elijya
07-04-2005, 01:50 PM
Well,I saw V for Vendetta and something else on the racks,but I got TLH and Y1 instead.Dammit,if only I knew I wouldn't like them :mad: :(


did you really dislike them that much?

V for vendetta I found a bit dense, same as everything else Moore writes, but I still respect it for what it is.

I think you might really enjoy PReacher, though. My Fiance finished the whole series in 2 days because she couldn't get enough of it

Sabretooth
07-04-2005, 01:56 PM
It's not that I dislike them seriously,it's just that the stories didn't grab me.In Y1,as cool as Gordon is,I felt like I saw too much of him and not enough Bruce.Long Halloween was a little better.You wouldn't be able to pry me off the book until I realized who it was.But other than who it was,nothing grabbed me about the story.Also,people kept telling me how great the two were,and making my expectations higher and higher,which may have been the reason :(

I also bought the Watchmen,but I'm a little worried that my expectations are gonna be too high and I won't like it :(

Elijya
07-04-2005, 02:01 PM
Watchmen is comicbook literature, it's a social commentary about superheroes.

read Preacher. Don't let people hype it up for you, the book will do that on it's when you pick it up

Yodaman
07-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Is 1602 a good graphic novel? I've never read Sandman so I can't say I'm a fan of Niel Gaiman but I saw the gn at Waldenbooks yesterday and it looks great.

Elijya
07-04-2005, 02:55 PM
Is 1602 a good graphic novel? I've never read Sandman so I can't say I'm a fan of Niel Gaiman but I saw the gn at Waldenbooks yesterday and it looks great.

yes, very good, a very fascinating premise. Basicly, it's the marvel universe characters set in the year 1602. The ending is a bit underwhelming, but the premise is mroe than fascinating enough to forgive that

Dr.Fear
07-04-2005, 03:38 PM
tell me about fables and sandman, what are these about?

rigel7soldiers
07-04-2005, 04:29 PM
Dude,.................


Don't Diss Great Lakes Avengers like that,.. Put more into it,...

Like:

Dan Slott, an up and coming great writer in the vein of those who started Marvel has written a good spin on the lamest Avengers in the Marvel Universe.

The Great Lakes Avengers is a projected one shot of how people who are heroic in heart but weak in power or know-how, (A couple of them have some kick-a** ability but use it poorly.), keep trying to save their part of the world,.. ignoring the jibes, laughter, the insults of the people around them.

Even Though I am Biased toward one of the Characters, I think Slott,... Heck,.. All those involved with the book have done an excellent JOB,.. Making marginal heroes folk you want to keep reading about,....

If you like "nutt in Cheek" humor,.. GLA is it.

I need to add that this wasn't the series I was going to suggest because I was hoping Mr. Slott finds a way to get saddled with those heroes long term,..

Me,.. I'll come back with We3 or GoldDigger.

Peace.

I was responding to someone else who said Young Avengers is the oly worthwhile book with "avengers" in the name.

Lackey
07-04-2005, 05:04 PM
Ok, so we get people asking for recommendations at least once a month. Now, instead of us each responding to each of these requests with lists of what we all suggest, let's just have an official recommendation thread we can point them too.

Now, I've long had issues with people simply making lists of good books. I think it's important to pitch books to people, tell them what they're about instead of just giving them a title. That way, they can judge for themselves a little better. Cause let's face it, there's a LOT of books out there we could all recommend. Let people pick what sounds interesting to them.

So what I'd ask you all to do is if you want to recommend something here, at least give a sentence or two about what the books is about and why you like it. Also tell them where they should start, how many books are in the series and such. Post images from the book, too. Then, just link people here whenever they ask for something


Great idea, it's about time someone did a thread like this. I also like the format with pictures...and that Transmet and 100 Bullets were your first recommendations :up:

JewishHobbit
07-04-2005, 07:55 PM
I'm trying to branch outside of my normal box but besides Supreme Power,.. I don't like the gritty dark over the top violent or whatever type of stuff. What else is good? Heck, I've read the first 9 issues of Miracleman... the Alan Moore classics... and now I'm wondering if I can sell them and get my money back. The first two issues were okay but the rest weren't great. I'd rather read something X-Men. I know a lot of Marvel so I kinda have an idea what I'd like there... what else is good?

Anubis
07-04-2005, 08:55 PM
Okay, I'd like to recommend Planetary. This Wildstorm book is fan-f**king-tastic. It's about a secret organization called Planetary, who are basically archologist. What they do is try to uncover the secret history of the world. The stuff "THEY" don't want you to know about. The Organization is huge, but it mainly centers around a three man field team and the mysterious Fourth Man. The team consists of Jakita Wagner, a woman with super strength, speed and agility. She's a lot like Wonder Woman. She is in it because life can be very boring, and this gives her purpose. You have the Drummer, a guy who can talk to machines. He's weird, and a bit of coward. The comic relief of the group. Then you have the new Recruit, Elijah Snow. He has the power of Heat subtraction. Ice powers basically. He's very old, one of the few special individuals of the Wildstorm Universe who were born January 1st, 1900. He doesn't really look a day over 45, but that could be because of the hard life he's lead. He doesn't have much of his memory, just bits and pieces. But he's surly, mean, and a bit of a cold bastard. Along their journy, they visit, massive ship shifts, stumble upon the last of the pulp heros who saved the world from a alien JLA invasion, visist a Ghost detective stright out of a John Woo movie, and learn more about the mysterious group known as the 4. THink, the fantastic four, only evil and secretly ruling the world. The terrible things they've done..... Anyway, it's a great book. If you like old school Sci-Fi and monster movies. Conspiracy stuff, and just all around good story, then you should check this out.
Elijah Snow
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/PLANETARY_THE_FOURTH_MAN_HC_John_Cassaday.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/PlanetaryHCvr.jpg

They also had a few great crossovers. I especially loved the Batman one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/planetary-crossingworlds-tpb.jpg

iloveclones
07-04-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, I already made this thread a while back. If I remember correctly, you posted a few in it, Elijya. I picked up a lot of good stuff through it, so I'll post a link in lieu of a recommendation. I'll talk up MTU when I have some more time.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157283

JackBauer
07-04-2005, 11:32 PM
The premise of Y: The Last Man sounds like something out of an episode of The Twilight Zone: a strange plague kills every male in the world, except for escape artist Yorick Brown and his pet monkey Ampersand. They struggle to survive in a world trying to restructure itself, with crazy women left and right. They are followed by Agent 355, a spy assigned to protect Yorick, and doctor Alison Mann, who's trying to find out a cure, and why Yorick and Ampersand were the only ones to survive. Doesn't sound all that original at first, but it's all in the execution (Vaughan is truly at master of cliffhangers). The first issue is truly a lesson on narrative, and is all you need to get hooked on this amazing series.

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0211/Y1.jpg
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/99243838939.1.P1.GIF

Elijya
07-05-2005, 12:26 AM
Well, I already made this thread a while back. If I remember correctly, you posted a few in it, Elijya. I picked up a lot of good stuff through it, so I'll post a link in lieu of a recommendation. I'll talk up MTU when I have some more time.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157283

yeah, but that wasn't official! :p :D

Elijya
07-05-2005, 12:34 AM
I'm trying to branch outside of my normal box but besides Supreme Power,.. I don't like the gritty dark over the top violent or whatever type of stuff. What else is good? Heck, I've read the first 9 issues of Miracleman... the Alan Moore classics... and now I'm wondering if I can sell them and get my money back. The first two issues were okay but the rest weren't great. I'd rather read something X-Men. I know a lot of Marvel so I kinda have an idea what I'd like there... what else is good?

Alan Moore's Miracleman climaxes with issue 15, you may want to keep reading it up till then. But you won't have to pay for them (they're rare and expensive), as I know some people here can link you to online versions of those issues

if you're looking for stuff on the lighter side, I can recommend Invincible, Barry Ween Boy Genius, Captain Marvel, Deadpool, anyuthing by Dan Slott, The Cowboy Wally Show, and Shaolin Cowboy. All of which are humor books, and some of which you may have already read (I'll do write ups for all of these at some point).

but if you're looking for good books that aren't necessarily straight humor but aren't too dark, Fables, Lullabye, Conan (a little dark, but DAMN good), young avengers, Green Arrow, Liberty Meadows, and tons of other stuff

Elijya
07-05-2005, 12:35 AM
tell me about fables and sandman, what are these about?


will get to these tomorrow, my friend :up:

Sabretooth
07-05-2005, 12:51 AM
yeah, but that wasn't official! :p :D
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138933 :p :joker: :D

Elijya
07-05-2005, 01:01 AM
oh come one! this thread is going so much better than those ones!

Sabretooth
07-05-2005, 01:08 AM
oh come one! this thread is going so much better than those ones!
I was only messing with ya.I just had to do it when you said that thing about the other thread not being official. :joker:

Venom Drool
07-05-2005, 01:29 AM
no one mentioned Powers yet?

JewishHobbit
07-05-2005, 06:19 AM
Alan Moore's Miracleman climaxes with issue 15, you may want to keep reading it up till then. But you won't have to pay for them (they're rare and expensive), as I know some people here can link you to online versions of those issues


You know, that'd be great. The comics just weren't up to par to me... maybe if they were new and cheep but not for the price they go for. I'm actually really curious about the arc with Aza Chorn in it but I don't know what issues he's in. I'd like to at least read what's to come though I doubt I'd lay down money for them.

And thanks for the other suggestions. I've read some of them. But that Y - The Last Man seemed interesting... what issue are they on and how dark is it?

Roughneck
07-05-2005, 06:25 AM
EXILES!

JewishHobbit
07-05-2005, 06:39 AM
OKay, here's my recommendation. I know many have read it lately do to New Avengers but my recomendations is for the Sentry limited series and the X-Men/Hulk/FF/and Spiderman oneshots that came with it. Though this series was gimmicked at first by marvel and wizard as an old Stan Lee idea that was never used.... it is still an amazing story and one of my favorates to date. I doubt that Bendis will do justice to the character so check out this mini asap.

I like what Jenkins did with it as he contrasts the world's greatest hero with an alterego of just a man who is scared of everything, alcoholic, and on the verge of a divorce. And though we all know he's a hero now part of the fun was wondering if he really was a hero or just a crazy guy. Jenkins does a wonderful job slowing portraying the other hero's knowledge and respect for him... especially Hulk and Reed Richards for me. Man this was good. READ IT!!!!

http://doncleth.tripod.com/jae_lee/comics/sentry_5.jpg

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/73011826638.1.P2.GIF

Elijya
07-05-2005, 09:48 AM
You know, that'd be great. The comics just weren't up to par to me... maybe if they were new and cheep but not for the price they go for. I'm actually really curious about the arc with Aza Chorn in it but I don't know what issues he's in. I'd like to at least read what's to come though I doubt I'd lay down money for them.

PM X or corpy, see if the have the on-line versions. Or Guyverjay

And thanks for the other suggestions. I've read some of them. But that Y - The Last Man seemed interesting... what issue are they on and how dark is it?
they're up to issue 35 nand there are 4 trades so far. There's lots of death, gender commentary, and femninazi biker gangs, but it's surprisingly not very dark thanks to the art work, which is loose and just the slightest bit cartoony and brightly colored. takes the edge off anything too dark. like this (which is the first page of the series):
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/99243838939.1.P1.GIF
EXILES!
yeah, that was helpful....
no one mentioned Powers yet?
I'll get to it, I'll get to it. Don't get your panties in a bundle

Marc
07-05-2005, 10:40 AM
http://www.alarics.com/picsgrahicnovels/thebooksofmagic.jpg

Books Of Magic

Not a big fan of Gaiman, in fact I have hated some of his work and in general he does nothing for me. But this is a great read, well plotted and a foreboding atmosphere. If you like Harry Potter, or in my case do not like Harry Potter then this is arguably what J.K. Rowling ripped off to make her book. Tim Hunter looks almost exactly like that character but this is set in a more adult tone and far more interesting in my opinion. This is basically a journey to initiate Tim Hunter into the world of magic. He is brought to meet some of DC's leading magicians, one of his guides being John Constantine. Eventually he is brought to the conclusion of magic and the possible paths in which he can take. A self-contained read but a story that continues still.

http://www.superherostuff.com/OtherItems/Images/killing_joke_poster2.jpg

The Killing Joke

Another Alan Moore story, to save doing this fifty times you should probably just pick up anything with his name attached. This is the best Batman story I have read and Batman is very much a secondary character in the tale compared to the Joker's story. We learn of his beginnings and why he is what he is. A fun read that takes some dark twists and turns.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563897334.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Lucifer

Probably the best ongoing title around for me at the moment, a recent classic. Very intelligent writing that fits with the characters, you never question the writers ability to say what the devil might say. Everything is spot on, a beat is never missed and the plots are exactly what I would expect from the character. And those plots are as grand as you can imagine, which is cool.

http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/redsontpb.jpg

Superman: Red Son

My favourite superman story probably because I really don't like the character and this is fair departure from his normal routine. A soviet Superman vs the american genius that is Lex Luthor. Plus a very annoying bat trying to rebel against Supes reign of power. With a russian hat! What more could you possibly want.

iloveclones
07-05-2005, 11:05 AM
yeah, but that wasn't official! :p :D

Curses! Foiled again!

Everyone go look at it anyway if you get a chance. A lot of good books discussed there.

iloveclones
07-05-2005, 01:30 PM
Okay, here's the title that I think more of you should be reading (admittedly, I've posted this before, but you want recommendations, not originality):

BUY MTU!

http://www.zeuscomics.com/images/covers/marvel-team-up-3.jpg

What's not to like here? Good stories? Great characters? Action? Familial bickering (FF)? Wisecracking(Spidey, of course)?

A lot of recommends for Invincible around here-same writer(Kirkman).

A LOT of recommends for Flash around here-same artist (Kolins- one of my favorite at Marvel right now-actually he doesn't do Flash anymore, but his run was great). And soon to be replaced by Pacheco (I believe) Not too shabby!

I always hear griping about continuity around here- well, at least so far, MTU's got that in spades.

Great sense of humor- in their first encounter, Spidey says to X-23, "Wolverine, Good Lord! What did they DO to you?!"

Unlike MTU in the past- a revolving cast. Recent issues:
Spidey and Moon Knight (that's right MK fans)
Punisher and Blade
Luke Cage and Daredevil(also includes Sleepwalker :eek: and Black Cat)

Unlike MTU in the past- a unified plot that ties the stories together. Plus sub-plots. Sub-plots!!

http://www.dcbservice.com/images/large/APR051901.jpg

And forget the fact that this is a fun title to read. This is exactly the kind of title that fans should support. It has respect for the characters(even minor ones), respect for continuity, and , IMHO, respect for the fans. If you really believe in those things, you should support it when Marvel actually does it!Right now the book is experiencing Spider-girl numbers (and not in a good way.) So get it. There's only so many "ignored" titles like Spider-Girl and Runaways that can make a comeback.



http://www.comix-shop.co.uk/cx-marvel/marvel-comics/marvel-pix6/mtu-7.jpg

Phaedrus45
07-05-2005, 01:55 PM
Well, I've recommended Battle Royale enough on a couple threads, but here is a comic that I haven't read in ages, but I always see it in the cheap bins at comic shops.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/14331240280.1.GIF

One of the first Maxi-series, it was everything I wanted in a comic at the time. It had action, drama, and totally tied in with my Excalibur fixation. (I don't know how many times I watched Excalibur, the movie, on Showtime in the early 80's; but, I just soaked up anything to do with King Arthur.) Here is someone's review to give an idea of what the whole idea is about:

In the year 3000 (which looks remarkably like the year 1987), Earth is under siege by malevolent aliens, and young Brit Tom discovers the buried tomb of King Arthur, the promised savior of all the world. Arthur -- yes, the genuine, Pendragon-y article -- is awakened and vows to help humanity in taking out the accursed plague of bug-eyed monsters. Though whether his medieval brain can grasp the concept of where these invaders come from is doubtful.

http://www.the11thhour.com/archives/122000/comicreviews/images/camelot.jpg
Of course, Arthur must first gather together his merry brood of fellow legends -- starting with Merlin, who is just as cranky and inscrutable as one would expect, all hidden beneath Stonehenge, which he built for the purpose and stuff (ah, so that's one mystery of the world explained, then!)

Merlin then reactivates the original Scooby Gang -- Lancelot, Galahad, Tristan, Percival, Kay, Gawain and the lovely Guinevere -- who must leave their modern, re-incarnated lives behind in order to rally around the Round Table.

And they proceed to kick some serious invader butt as they uncover a government conspiracy, reveal the true nature of their enemies, and just basically save humanity, with all the requisite angst, heartbreak and self-sacrifice accounted for. Oh, and Excalibur, naturally. And the Holy Grail. And the torrid Lance/Gwen hookup. You know those drills, right?

Camelot 3000 is a great romp through both legend and speculative fiction, a kind of cross between sword and sorcery and space opera that shouldn't work, and yet does -- perfectly. From the first, this is a bizarre world, and it proceeds to get even more bizarre, with twist plot developments that leave the reader breathless for more. The art is first class -- though allowances have to be made for the eighties -- and the writing ties everything together very nicely.

As the first adult comic series, Camelot 3000 set a new standard. As the first direct-to-comic-stores release, it raised that standard. This twelve issue maxi-series, re-released in TPB in 1997, was a phenomenon in the comic buying world, something all together new and wondrous... and the story is still pretty damned cool.

Even if it is about that silly Arthur King and his English kaaa-niggits.

Sabretooth
07-05-2005, 02:01 PM
OKay, here's my recommendation. I know many have read it lately do to New Avengers but my recomendations is for the Sentry limited series and the X-Men/Hulk/FF/and Spiderman oneshots that came with it. Though this series was gimmicked at first by marvel and wizard as an old Stan Lee idea that was never used.... it is still an amazing story and one of my favorates to date. I doubt that Bendis will do justice to the character so check out this mini asap.

I like what Jenkins did with it as he contrasts the world's greatest hero with an alterego of just a man who is scared of everything, alcoholic, and on the verge of a divorce. And though we all know he's a hero now part of the fun was wondering if he really was a hero or just a crazy guy. Jenkins does a wonderful job slowing portraying the other hero's knowledge and respect for him... especially Hulk and Reed Richards for me. Man this was good. READ IT!!!!

http://doncleth.tripod.com/jae_lee/comics/sentry_5.jpg

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/73011826638.1.P2.GIF
Nice one :up: One of my favorite books :) :up:

Doc Destruction
07-05-2005, 02:04 PM
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The Thunderbolts. The first series was mind blowing. After a very typical "big fight when new heroes show up and call each other by their code names and use their powers" storyline, we find out in the last panel that they are all B-list villains in disguise.

The beauty of the plot involves the slow transformation by several of their members into REAL heroes. Lead by Citizen V (Baron Zemo), Songbird (Screaming Mimi), Atlas (Goliath), Mach V (The Beetle), Meteorite (Moonstone) and Techno (The Fixer), the meet up with a new young hero named Jolt and attempt to take over the world by first winning their trust.

The new version of the team is equally amazing, with Speed Demon, Blizzard, Radioactive Man, Joystick, Atlas, Mach VI and Photon (formerly Capt. Marvel).

Doc Destruction
07-05-2005, 02:10 PM
http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/kingdom_come.jpg

Hard to believe no one mentioned this one yet. Available mostly in TPB now, this is the story of a future DC universe where the old guard heroes are mostly retired, or transcended into new forms (Flash protects ALL of his city at all times by never stopping, GL sits above the Earth waiting for any sign of alien invasion). Their children and their legacies have taken superheroing to a new extreme, demolishing all villains and leaving none left to fight, so they take to beating each other senseless in the streets.

During a huge battle with the Parasite, they cause a huge nuclear explosion, ruining the breadbasket of the USA and causing the old heroes to come out of retirement and put them back in their place. Too many amazing moments to mention here, just get it.

Elijya
07-05-2005, 02:44 PM
Doc, please get your pictures to work

Doc Destruction
07-05-2005, 02:53 PM
Well poo...I see them...let me see what I can do.

Elijya
07-05-2005, 04:01 PM
they work now

the only unfortunate thing about the Thunderbolts is that only one very hard to find trade exists for the first couple of issues of the first series

Venom Drool
07-05-2005, 04:04 PM
Elijya dont you read Powers?

Elijya
07-05-2005, 04:09 PM
yes, I read powers. I just haven't done a write up for it yet. I've got like, 50 books I plan on doing

SpideyInATree
07-05-2005, 04:45 PM
http://www.samruby.com/Series/Spider-ManHumanTorch/Large/Spider-ManHumanTorch5.jpg

Writer: Dan Slott
Artist: Ty Templeton

Brief Summary: This is a miniseries which revisits some of Spider-Man and Human Torch's more interesting encounters. Some include Spidey and Torch switching places for a day, the Spider-Mobile, and Johnny assisting Black Cat with a robbery. Filled with a lot of light hearted humor and great Spider-Man nostalgia, especially with the Spider-Mobile. If you can't find the single issues anywhere this will be released, shortly, in a digest format for your reading pleasure. Definitely one of the best Spider-Man books of 2005, hands down. Buy it, enjoy it, laugh your socks off!

Anubis
07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
Hey Venom why don't you do it. Your hands aren't broken.

Venom Drool
07-05-2005, 05:19 PM
actually my finger is :up:

JackBauer
07-05-2005, 07:47 PM
Since apparently no one wants to do it, I might as well recommend Powers. It tells the story of homicide detective Christian Walker and his partner Deena Pilgrim, who solve cases involving superheros. The art is VERY cool, reminiscent of the DC animated universe. The writing... Well, the best I can say is that the storyline Forever (which tells the history of powers, going all the way back to the dawn of man) is Bendis' Watchmen. The rest of it is great as well, of course, but if I had to indicate a particular storyline, that'd be the one, hands down. (on a side note, it would make for one HELL of a tv show)

http://www.wildpigcomics.com/images/picks/powers.jpg
http://themagazine.millarworld.net/images/trades/powers7.jpg

korican04
07-06-2005, 09:15 AM
What is a good Thor graphic novel? Like one i can pick up at Barnes and Nobles and read on a 5 hour plane ride. I've read all the JLA novels and trying to get into Marvel again.

Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:03 AM
What is a good Thor graphic novel? Like one i can pick up at Barnes and Nobles and read on a 5 hour plane ride. I've read all the JLA novels and trying to get into Marvel again.


I don't know if you could pick it up at Barnes and Nobles, but one of my favorite Thor stories is Thor: Vikings, written by Garth Ennis with Art but Glenn Fabry. Facing off against a 1,000 year old Crew of Zombie vikings, Thor must team up with a handful of warriors from different eras to defeat them. Extremely violent, it's basicly just a kick ass book :up:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/87458711529.1.GIF

the quintessential place to start with Thor would be walt simonsons run. Walt introduced Beta Ray Bill and his is considered the definitive Thor run. His stories are collected in the Thor Visionaires: Walt Simonson trades

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/87444708633.1.GIF

and this one I know you can find in Barnes and Nobles because I saw one there the other week. Some people may not have been fans of Avengers Disassembled, but the Avengers Disassembled:Thor Tie-in had nothing to do with it really, and was just a really, really good story about Ragnorok (the end of the gods) written by Michael Avon Oeming, artist of Powers and Author/Artist of Hammer of the Gods

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05878802237.1.GIF

hope that helps!

and since I mentioned it, you should all also try and check out Hammer of the Gods if you're either a Thor or a Conan fan. Just a really cool little viking tale Oeming wrote for Image. Any Comicbook store should be able to get a copy of the trade for you.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/38466077399.1.GIF

Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:14 AM
Warning: Adult Content. The recommended book below contains foul language, and may contain nudity or other material you may find offensive

The Adventures of Barry Ween Boy Genius might best be summed up as a foul-mouthed Calvin and Hobbes or Dexter on crack. Created by Judd Winick (Green Arrow, Batman), Barry Ween is the smartest boy alive, and must deal with interdimensional portals, invading aliens, monkeys, yetis, time travel, and his ADHD best friend Jeremy who's usually behind it all. Currently, there are four trades published by Oni, and everyone is begging Judd to do more. You will not be able to stop laughing when you read this, and just when you least expect it, you won't be able to stop the tears of sadness, either

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/01529695728.1.4TH.PRINT.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/01529212869.1.4TH.PRINT.GIF
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http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/01532834308.1.GIF

Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:26 AM
The Mask Ok, forget the Jim Carrey movie, the mask stories in comics are extremely vioent Jekyll and Hyde morality tales that are worth checking out. Originall published as a large number of different four issues miniseries by Dark Horse throughout the 90's, each book sees the mask come into a different personss possession, and where the mask leads, corruption and death follow, and the lucky survivors get a dose of self discovery. The first three trades are the best. Although the first book, simply Mask, has some amaturish art, things pick up with The Mask Returns. The Mask Strikes Back sees a group of teenagers come into the mask possession thinking it will answer all of their life's problems.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/52355381438.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/52345724268.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/52349587136.1.GIF

Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:43 AM
edit

korican04
07-06-2005, 10:48 AM
I don't know if you could pick it up at Barnes and Nobles, but one of my favorite Thor stories is Thor: Vikings, written by Garth Ennis with Art but Glenn Fabry. Facing off against a 1,000 year old Crew of Zombie vikings, Thor must team up with a handful of warriors from different eras to defeat them. Extremely violent, it's basicly just a kick ass book :up:

the quintessential place to start with Thor would be walt simonsons run. Walt introduced Beta Ray Bill and his is considered the definitive Thor run. His stories are collected in the Thor Visionaires: Walt Simonson trades

and this one I know you can find in Barnes and Nobles because I saw one there the other week. Some people may not have been fans of Avengers Disassembled, but the Avengers Disassembled:Thor Tie-in had nothing to do with it really, and was just a really, really good story about Ragnorok (the end of the gods) written by Michael Avon Oeming, artist of Powers and Author/Artist of Hammer of the Gods

hope that helps!

and since I mentioned it, you should all also try and check out Hammer of the Gods if you're either a Thor or a Conan fan. Just a really cool little viking tale Oeming wrote for Image. Any Comicbook store should be able to get a copy of the trade for you.


WHoa thanks! :up:

Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:55 AM
The Walking Dead

From Publishers Weekly
"Taking a well-worn genre—flesh-eating zombies overrun the world and the unlucky surviving humans must deal with the gruesome aftermath—and approaching it from a purely character-driven point of view propels this series into the spotlight from out of nowhere. This collection of the first six issues of the ongoing series opens with police officer Rick Grimes awakening from a gunshot-induced coma. From here, he's immediately dragged into a world where dangerous revenants are shambling amok without any sort of an explanation. From the moment Grimes comes to, it's a harrowing battle to avoid hordes of decomposing zombies and a hope-against-all-odds search for his missing family. Grimes makes his way to Atlanta, the nearest large city where there may be other living people, and events take several unexpected turns upon his arrival, as he meets up with a rural encampment of survivors. Of course, as in recent hit movies 28 Days Later... and Dawn of the Dead, the last humans may turn out to be as much a danger as the zombies. Forceful scripting that gives the book a strong grounding in reality, crisp b&w artwork, a shocking final sequence and brisk, gory proceedings elevate this book from the trash heap of pedestrian horror comics."

I've never been a fan of Zombie stories, but I'm a fan of author Robert Kirkman and had heard phenomenal things about this series and decided to pick it up. They were all true. Perhaps it was because I never understood Zombie stories that I didn't care for them, but Kirkman takes care of that himself with the very introduction to the first volume of this series, something I will be greatful for a long time. You see, when it comes down to it, it's not about the zombies, it's about the people who are left behind, and Kirkman makes them just absolutely fascinating here.

The series is currently on issue 26, they're 4 softcover trades available, or one GIANT slipcase that collects the first 24 issues for $100 for die-hard fans. A smaller, more affordable hardcover collecting issues 1-12 is on the way.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/93636403178.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/93634471744.4.GIF
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Elijya
07-06-2005, 10:56 AM
WHoa thanks! :up:

that's what I'm here for, man :up:

KAD
07-06-2005, 11:44 AM
Check out Someplace Strange


I think its written by louise Simonson and illustrated by Steve Lightle.


Its an old Marvel GN.

Excellent read very suprising

Elijya
07-06-2005, 12:01 PM
Check out Someplace Strange


I think its written by louise Simonson and illustrated by Steve Lightle.


Its an old Marvel GN.

Excellent read very suprising


while I appreciate the effort, guys, can you try to give more info on these books? KAD, you aren't sure who the creators are, you didn't tell us whose in the book or what the basic plot is, show any art, or address the availabilty of the book (this oen I believe is not exactly common). and simply shouting out "exiles" isn't helpful either

Doc Destruction
07-06-2005, 12:13 PM
that's what I'm here for, man :up:

You just reminded me...I found my Thor 337-339 all signed by Simonson this week ;)

Anubis
07-06-2005, 12:44 PM
Good call on Walking Dead there Eli. One of my favorite books. :up:

Dread
07-06-2005, 01:28 PM
This is an easy fan favorite book around here, but I may as well make an official "stab" at it.

YOUNG AVENGERS
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At first slated as some sort of "gimmick" from Marvel, this title is so good that it makes all the controversial events of "Disassembled" almost worth it. Building on the ashes of that lackluster story, Heinberg & Cheung tell a tale of young heroes rising to take the place of the fallen Avengers, whose costumes and codenames homage 4 founding Avengers: Patriot, Asgardian, Hulkling, and their "leader", Iron Lad, who is more than he seems. In fact, ALL of them are, as Jessica Jones is dispatched by J.Jonah Jameson to find out exactly "Who the [BLEEP] are the Young Avengers?" Rather than tell this tale from boring A-B-C pacing, Heinberg instantly establishes the teens as heroes and then works slowly on fleshing their origins, background, and true powers, to keep you guessing. You discover who these heroes are little by little. The four of them soon encounter spunky teen Kate Bishop in their first hostage situation, and are then bolstered by Cassie Lang, the teenaged daughter of Scott Lang (the now deceased Ant-Man II). Add to that, Iron Lad's mysterious connection to classic Avengers rogue Kang the Conqueror, AND establishing the Vision as the pivotal Avengers mainstay he always was.

Heinberg allows the mess that was Disassembled to have more poignancy than Bendis shows, with allusions to Vision's protocols, and Cassie's grief at losing her father (whose death was depicted as merely an aside in that story, overshadowed by Hawkeye's loss) and wanting to do him proud by following in his footsteps. Meanwhile, how do the old Avengers handle their younger counterparts about to follow on the same dangerous path they did as heroes (while, hypocritically, restarting the Avengers secretly)?

The story itself is not only interesting, but the dialogue is crisp, the art is incredible and the battles feel as epic as you'd expect from a core Avengers title. Heinberg adheres to past history and continuity yet still keeps his characters fresh enough to root for them. Sure, there are some formulaic bits, but if any title, outside of RUNAWAYS or MTU could possibly make a jaded Marvel fan smile at the "House of Ideas" once more, it's YOUNG AVENGERS. Heinberg takes characters and legacies that "Disassembled" destroyed for shock value and makes them MATTER again. THIS is the true "NEW" AVENGERS.

Issue #6 will be coming out this month, and a Vol. 1 TPB is inevitable. If you can't find the issues, track it down. You won't regret it.

Dread
07-06-2005, 01:34 PM
MARVELS
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By the same team behind KINGDOM COME (Kurt Buseik at writing and Alex Ross painted art), this is a more down-to-earth tale set in the Golden and Silver years of Marvel comics. Follow journalist Phil Sheldon as the "Marvels" first arise, from The Invaders in the 40's to the Avengers, X-Men, and Spider-Man in the 60's. His "man-on-the-street" view displays these icons and events as, well, iconic and eventful. Seeing the Marvel universe begin through his eye(s) is a pleasure. Easily available in TPB, I recommend it to any comic fan, especially a Marvel one.

Dread
07-06-2005, 01:46 PM
God Loves, Man Kills
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X-Fans that are wary of Claremont's current work, and even those who are not, should all have this graphic novel under their belts. Released in 1982 as "Marvel Graphic Novel #5" at 62 pages, the story is pretty much a stellar sample of Claremont's golden years on the X-Men, as well as a tale that gets to the root of what the X-Men are about; sci-fi allegories about the dangers of bigotry. NOT about aliens, demons, alternate realities/dimensions, or Wolverine (he's in it, but not the star). This tale was also loosely adapted for the X2 film, although this graphic novel is far different. Rather than use the military as the voice of humans-against-mutants, Claremont uses religion, or at least religion as interpretted by the zealous William Stryker. Magneto, naturally, is against human bigotry and often gets the best agruements, as he isn't quite an "Emperor Ming"-style villian here. The X-Men are naturally caught in the middle of zealots.

There are some dated bits, of course, like the costume designs and a lot of the scenes with Kitty and Illyana, but the tale still is quite entertaining more than 20 years later. The art is by Brent Anderson, who may be better known for his work on Alex Ross' ASTRO CITY.

It was re-released after X2 hit theatres, and shouldn't be hard to find in the graphic novel section of most comic shops. For a one-shot tale that offers a thrilling, and slightly chilling, account of everything the X-Men should be, you can't go wrong with this offering.

Dread
07-06-2005, 02:06 PM
Now for a DC title that was canceled months back and was an underrated work:

BLOODHOUND
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Released last year from DC and running for 10 issues before cancellation (blamed to abysmal sales; Bloodhound #2 sold at a depressing #126 that month and the sales only went downhill from there). If you like gritty crime noir like SIN CITY, as well as metahuman action, then this is a good title for you. Image a SIN CITY bruiser like, say, Marv from A DAME TO KILL FOR, tossed into the outskirts of mainstream DC (as in, thrown into midwestern cities where superheroes rarely cross) and given, or forced, into a mission to track down metahumans. You get all that and more from this run by writer Dan Jolley and artist Leonard Kirk.

In BLOODHOUND, meet Clev, a hulking prison convict and ex-cop, thrown in the clink for murdering his partner. It seems, however, that he had a "knack" for being able to read/profile metahuman criminals (folks with superpowers who commit CSI-style crimes instead of donning costumes and fighting Superman), and it is precisely that reason that the FBI contacts him and offers him a deal; help them track down metahuman perps, and he can take time off his sentence. While Clev has no offensive "powers" aside for his "knack" for reading people, he makes up for it by being a massive bruiser who's as strong as he nasty. Whether it's punching people through walls or poking out someone's eyes, Clev does what it takes to win a brawl. He naturally interacts with the female FBI agent given the task to work with him, and more about the pair are revealed. Aside for a crossover with FIRESTORM in BLOODHOUND #5 that can be easily bypassed without effecting the other 9 issues (which I did), Clev really stays outside the mainstream DCU, operating on the outskirts the heroes miss. In 9 issues you get 3 storyarcs, including a breif return to prison for Clev. As a convict and a former-cop, AND a cop-killer, Clev has few allies in the underworld or the law, who both want a piece of him. Given a controller/tracking collar that Clev seems to know how to bypass if he wanted to, and later on a bullet-proof t-shirt and brass knuckles, if you like those hard broiled "grit" stories, this is for you.

Kirk's art is refreshing, and even the fill-in artist around issue #8 or so manages to capture the style enough. The last issue finishes the arc but leaves the tale as a hint of what could have been accomplished. Due to low sales, I doubt this run will ever see a TPB, so you may be on your own in tracking down the issues. Thankfully, poor sales should make it not too difficult to find. When I hopped aboard I easily found issues 1-4 on one "I can't give these away!" shelf last year.

Definately a mature title, but if you thought the DCU was all about aliens and superheroes, this title will make you see otherwise.

Dread
07-06-2005, 02:21 PM
This will probably be my "hardest-to-find" recommendation today, but if you are one of the lucky fans who can track down this little-known mini series from Marvel in 2002, you'll know why I recommended it.

TASKMASTER
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This 4 issue mini series was released by Marvel and UDON in 2002; written by Ken Siu-Chong with UDON art (David Ahn, Omar Dogan, Alan Tam, Rob Ross & Shane Law), it is a "caper" title starring Taskmaster. Don't know who Taskmaster really is? Not a problem. This series not only provides an EXCELLENT redesign for the character, as well as gives him a cool "energy weapon" and holographic emitter, but it nails down his character and what he can do with his abilities. Taskmaster is an Avengers-rogue who makes a business out of either training goons for other villians or doing merc work; this title focuses on the latter. Taskmaster, whose true name is never given, has the ability to copy any action he sees once perfectly (aside for superhuman feats), basically "photographic reflexes". Taking espoinage jobs for high prices, you get to see Taskmaster do things like fight Iron Man, try to score in Vegas and pit his enemies against each other. The selling point of the series is that not only does it make Taskmaster more like a real character who you can root for without making him a "hero", but it does his power justice and allows him to use it for MANY different techniques and tactics. Often underrated and forgotten, and utterly ignored by Marvel despite Taskmaster moving onto a supporting role in AGENT X months later, this little known gem is worth tracking down.

DBM actually scanned and posted the entire series a few times, but naturally reading the issues in your hand is not the same as squinting at scanned pages. Sadly, no TPB was ever made of this series, and many stores won't have the entire run on stock, so it may take some hunting both on foot and online to collect them all. And yes, the cover to issue #4 was drawn by former X-artist and "lazy dude" Joe Mad.

So, unlock your inner Taskmaster and collect the series; the score at the end will be worth it for a character many fans likely don't even know well.

DBM
07-06-2005, 02:31 PM
DBM actually scanned and posted the entire series a few times

It can be found in this thread.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181384

Doc Destruction
07-06-2005, 02:43 PM
I got that mini...loved it. Taskmaster was very cool.

DBM
07-06-2005, 03:02 PM
I got that mini...loved it. Taskmaster was very cool.

I loved that mini too. One of my favorite parts was how Tasky took down Iron Man in that first issue. That one scene shows just how badass Taskmaster is.

Phaedrus45
07-06-2005, 03:34 PM
If you are looking for something completely different than anything Marvel puts out, try Strangers in Paradise by Terry Moore.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/82906804450.12.GIF

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/82908735884.5.GIF



Strangers In Paradise (SIP) is the story of three friends, Francine, Katchoo and David and the people they fall in and out of love with.
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It's a tale of dark pasts and hopeful futures, double-crosses and true friendship, love and hate.
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In other words: it's a story of real life, kicked up a notch.

You can get these in a great pocket book form. There are four volumes, each containing about 17 issues.

Phaed

Elijya
07-06-2005, 05:00 PM
phaed, fix your pictures

WallCrawl
07-06-2005, 05:34 PM
This thread is just what I need right now. Props to everyone who's posted so far, especially on the Thor titles. I'm extremely glad to find out Simonson's work has been collected.

Phaedrus45
07-06-2005, 05:47 PM
phaed, fix your pictures

Ok, I got them from a different source. Maybe it will work now.

TheSumOfGod
07-06-2005, 05:54 PM
Ultimate X-Men issue 6. Best. Comic Book. Ever. Really! It doesn't get any better than seeing a fleet of 300 to 400 reprogrammed Sentinels blowing up Washington D.C., and then seeing Magneto making George Dubya Bush (!) get naked and lick his boots clean in front of the world while the White House is burning down to the ground behind them. And the superb artwork doesn't hurt, either.

Anubis
07-06-2005, 05:59 PM
Okay, I'm gonna recommend James Robinson's Starman series. This book follows the exploits of the reluctant hero Jack Knight. Taking over the mantle of Starman after his fathers retirement and his brothers death, Jack has to protect Opal City from super villians, aliens, and whatever else comes his way. This book is great. So far I've just read the first four trades, but, man, I am really loving this series. I think the best part of the series is the great support characters, like the Shade. Immortal sometimes villian, who offers to help Jack out whenever possible. He's a very interesting character that one. The O'dares. A family of cops who have help out the Knights for years. This book is all about the Legacy aspect of the DCU. Where the old isn't just tossed aside, but embraced, as others take up the mantle of those before them. Highly recommended.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/1563892480.jpg

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JackBauer
07-06-2005, 09:38 PM
Gotta recommend Fables, by Bill Willingham. It shows many exiled fairy tale characters living in a secret community in New York, after being driven away from their realm from a villain called simply The Adversary. Snow White runs the community, and the Big Bad Wolf (or simply Bigby), in a human form, is the law. They are the two main characters, but there are tons more, many great adaptations (Prince Charming, Goldilocks and Pinnochio are specially cool, IMO). Willingham did a great job of creating some great new stories and relationships between these already existant characters.

http://comics.toonzone.net/solicitations/2003-07/vertigo/fables-tpb1.jpg
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Elijya
07-07-2005, 11:34 AM
edit

KAD
07-07-2005, 12:19 PM
while I appreciate the effort, guys, can you try to give more info on these books? KAD, you aren't sure who the creators are, you didn't tell us whose in the book or what the basic plot is, show any art, or address the availabilty of the book (this oen I believe is not exactly common). and simply shouting out "exiles" isn't helpful either


Elijyahhhhhhhhhhh,

You sometimes come off as condecending.


The creative team: Ann Nocenti - John Bolton - John Bolton - Tom Orzechowski - John Bolton

The Art:http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/76225974244.1.S&N.HC.gif


As far as who is in it: Nobody you would know.

I was given a copy back when I was an intern at Marvel.

Phaedrus45
07-07-2005, 01:11 PM
This next recommendation is one that I was able to get non-comic reading fans hooked on: Elfquest.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/28842103922.1.GIF

While Marvel reprinted it in 1985 with 30+ issues in color, it was originally done by WarpGraphics in black and white, later being in color for the TPBs. Currently, DC comics is reprinting the entire series in chronological order with pocket books in the original B&W form. If you do give it a try, get Vol. 1 of The Grand Quest first. This is how the story originally started out, same as with Marvel issue #1:

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As usual, I will borrow the synopsis from a webpage:

"It all starts off with the Wolfriders, a small tribe of forest dwelling elves, closely bonded to their wolf-friends, who are driven from their holt by fanatic humans, who set the forest on fire.
The leader of this band is Cutter, blood of Ten Chiefs. Young, but brave and determined, he has the loyalty of his tribe.
Fleeing from the fire, the elves seek refuge in the troll caverns. The troll king, who is not happy about this invasion of his underground realm, promises to show the elves a new land, where they can live in peace.
However, the trolls duplicity shows, when the Wolfriders stand at the end of a tunnel opening up to a burning desert, with the way back closed to them.
Determined not to let his people die, Cutter leads them across the deadly waste. As they reach the mountains seen from afar in three days of hunger and thirst, they find not only water, but make an incredible discovery. Here in the oasis of Sorrow's End are other elves. The world view of the Wolfriders who thought they were the only children of their mythical ancestors, the High Ones, left, changes in the blink of an eye.

From here enfolds the true Quest, Cutter's search for other elves, and the origins of their kind. They will find, that an enemy among their own race can be deadlier and more dangerous than any human. They will suffer and learn and grow.

Elfquest is the creation of wife and husband-team Wendy and Richard Pini."


Phaed

Elijya
07-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Elijyahhhhhhhhhhh,

You sometimes come off as condecending.



yeah I know

anyway, wtf is the book about?

euroq
07-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Ah, I love Elfquest. :)

Phaedrus45
07-07-2005, 02:28 PM
Ah, I love Elfquest. :)

You know, when they started releasing the pocket books, DC was also suppose to release a new Elfquest series. But, that never happened. Anyone know about what's up with that?

Phaed

Elijya
07-07-2005, 04:30 PM
>>-GREEN ARROW->

If youíre looking for a great DC Superhero book to get into, Green Arrow is the place to be. The book succeeds especially because itís not really tied into anything else in the DCU, so it stands on itís own and you donít have to pick up any other books to get it. Plus, Ollie is just such a great character.

Iíve always felt Green Arrow was the Daredevil of the DCU: Both characters fly under the radar that superstar characters like Spider-Man and Batman and such exist on. Consequently, creators are given greater freedom to do more interesting things with them.

I suggest starting with vol 1 of the current series, but thereíre some other good books from the past Iíll mention, too.

Hereís what you need to know: Oliver Queen was a wealthy industrialist who decided to fight crime after an experience that led him to survive on his own. He funded the Justice League when it first began, and eventually became best friends with Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern, who later turned evil and eventually became the all-powerful Spectre. As a younger hero, Green Arrow took a ward, Roy Harper, who took the name Speedy, and eventually grew up and called himself Arsenal. He now leads the Outsiders. Recently, a young man named Conner Hawke came forward and revealed he was Ollieís unknown son. Heíd spent time in a Buddhist temple and is one of the top martial artists on earth in addition to being as skilled with a bow as his father. Ollie has also had an on-again-off-again romance with Dinah Lance, the Black Canary, for years.

Ollie died trying to disarm a bomb on a plane. He failed, and died right in front of Superman. Now we startÖ

Vol 1 Quiver. Oliver Queen is back from the dead. Or is he? Kevin Smith writes the relaunch of the character and does it right. A lot of great things in this volume that will make you love the character, but I donít want to give too much away

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Vol 2 Sounds of Violence. Kevin Smith continues his run with an arc concerning a particularly peculiar villain named Onomatopoeia who has a fetish for killing costumed heroes

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Vol 3 The Archers Quest. New York Times Best-selling author Brad Meltzer (of later Identity Crisis fame) makes his comic writing debut in a volume that sees Green Arrow taking a road trip with his former ward, Arsenal, in a quest to pick up the pieces of Ollieís life he left behind when he died. The ending will have you in tears.

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all three of the volumes mentioned so far feature gorgeous covers by Matt Wagner and interior art by Phil Hester and Ande Parks

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/37047801271.17.P3.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/pages/37047801271.18.P2.GIF

the books got some of the best dynamics and constistently good story telling of anything from the past 5 years

Elijya
07-07-2005, 04:57 PM
Go diving into the past for where Olliver Queen really started as a character. Though created in the 1940’s, Green Arrow existed for many years as a simple “batman with a bow” character. Similarly, for many years, Green Lantern struggled as a character with a lot of power but no personality. But it was in 1970 that that all changed with Green Lantern #76. The book became a team book, simply titled Green Lantern/Green Arrow, and writer Denny O’Neill and artist Neal Adams re-invented both characters and officially launched the Bronze Age of comics.

Green Lantern/Green Arrow began openly dealing with political and social issues with its stories, starting off with a bang by re-inventing Green Arrow as a liberal and Green Lantern as a conservative. The point is especially driven home when an African American man asks Green Lantern why he’s been off on other planets helping purple people and green people, but hasn’t done anything for the black people right here on earth

Shaken by this accusation, and without an answer, Green Lantern questions himself, and agrees to embark on a road trip with Green Arrow across America. Throughout the rest of the series, issues such as racism, Native American rights, and pollution are addressed. The book also featured the first Drug reference allowed under the Comics Code Authority in a powerful story which sees Green Arrows side-kick, Speedy, addicted to heroine.

Undoubtedly one of the most important runs in all of comicdom, this is definitely a piece of history you should read.The entire run by Adams and O’Neill can be found in two volumes any comicbook store and most book store should be able to get ahold of for you

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Writer/Artist Mike Grell also re-invented Green Arrow in the late 1980’s by giving the character a more urban and darker appeal, beginning with a story called The Longbow Hunters. It centers more on the characters relationship to the Black Canary as the two move to Seattle together. It features beautiful watercolor artwork by Grell and is another must-read chapter in the characters history.

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Elijya
07-07-2005, 05:08 PM
edit

Anubis
07-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Greatest, GA artist, EVER.

JewishHobbit
07-07-2005, 08:47 PM
I plan on getting Quiver eventually... almost got it today actually but passed it up for Wolverine's Origin tpb and Batman Hush Vol. 1 since combined they were only a few bucks more than Quiver was alone.

JewishHobbit
07-07-2005, 09:15 PM
Okay, here's a question on Daredevil. I'm interested in the Bendis run because I've heard so much good from it. If I'm not mistaken he started on issue 26 but here's my question. Can I start there and know what's going on or should I get anything that starts before that? I'm curious about Smith's run but Bendis' interests me more because I've actually read a few comics of his and I liked them.

Anubis
07-07-2005, 09:17 PM
Do you know anything about Daredevil?

Ben Urich
07-07-2005, 10:14 PM
Okay, here's a question on Daredevil. I'm interested in the Bendis run because I've heard so much good from it. If I'm not mistaken he started on issue 26 but here's my question. Can I start there and know what's going on or should I get anything that starts before that? I'm curious about Smith's run but Bendis' interests me more because I've actually read a few comics of his and I liked them.

The story of Guardian Devil was good, if a bit slow. Just be prepared to want to gouge your eyes out after a few pages of Joe Quesada's art. He sucks.
Sorry, Joe.
Anyway, you could start with Underboss and do fine. However, I recommend Wake Up, Brian Bendis' 4 issue Daredevil story with collaborator (and sexy man-beast) David Mack.
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Here's what the back of the trade says:
Meet Ben Urich, investigative reporter for the Daily Bugle. His current assignment: the media circus that is the murder trial of Wilson Fisk, the so-called Kingpin of Crime! At least, that's the gospel according to his editor, J. Jonah Jameson. So why is Urich spendingall his time with the catatonic son of the two-bit costumed criminal called Leap Frog? And how is Daredevil, the Man Without Fear, connected to a child he doesn't even know? His objectivity shattered, Urich finds himself doubting his journalistic integrity and the future of his very profession!
This story probably isn't for everybody. Like all of Bendis' good stuff, there's very little action and all the focus is on Urich, the narrator.
The real treat here is David Mack's artwork. This guy can ****ing... he's just... there aren't any words for this.
The trade is only $9.99 and should be available in a local comic shop. The backissues shouldn't be too hard to track down either - just look for Daredevil v. 2, issues 16-19.

Elijya
07-08-2005, 01:28 AM
Okay, here's a question on Daredevil. I'm interested in the Bendis run because I've heard so much good from it. If I'm not mistaken he started on issue 26 but here's my question. Can I start there and know what's going on or should I get anything that starts before that? I'm curious about Smith's run but Bendis' interests me more because I've actually read a few comics of his and I liked them.


you can start from either spot and follow easily

I HIGHLY recommend buyting Daredevil in Hardcover format as it's actually cheaper than buying the softcovers. Hardcover Volume 1 includes Guardian Devil by Kevin Smith, and Hardcover Vol 2 starts from the begining of the Bendis/Maleev run

Elijya
07-08-2005, 01:29 AM
Do you know anything about Daredevil?

damn you :mad:

post 100 was gonna be reserved for my Sandman write up.

guess I'll try and get it on the top of page 6....

Doc Destruction
07-08-2005, 06:11 PM
Here's one not many people talk about, and it's a shame...


MUTANT X

Havok died at the end of X-Factor's run, but his mind was actually throw to another universe where he leads a band of seriously altered and very un-nice versions of his friends. The Fallen is Angel, post Apocalypse tampering...Bloodstorm is Storm having never been cured of Dracula's bite...Iceman has never recovered from Loki's power amping...Brute is Beast, mutated too far and seriously unintelligent...and Maddy Pryor as the Goblin Queen.

Loved the entire run and own it all. If you get the chance, read it.

Elijya
07-08-2005, 06:47 PM
welp, thanks to the glitch today, that entire conversation with killgore is gone. I think that was the only recommendation write up that got killed

jim lee's bat
07-08-2005, 07:26 PM
since this is the "recommendations thread" I was wondering on what issue should I start picking up the runaways since its said to be a great book

Anubis
07-08-2005, 07:39 PM
You could buy the entire first season in hardback. Or you could buy the three digests. Then again, you could also start at the begining of the second season, which would be issue one #1.

jim lee's bat
07-08-2005, 08:00 PM
is tere a thirde season cuase I was checking midtown and they had a vol 3 and since im familiar with their backstoies id figured id start with the current arc but Im not sure which issue/volume there on

Phaedrus45
07-08-2005, 08:07 PM
Here's one not many people talk about, and it's a shame...


MUTANT X

Havok died at the end of X-Factor's run, but his mind was actually throw to another universe where he leads a band of seriously altered and very un-nice versions of his friends. The Fallen is Angel, post Apocalypse tampering...Bloodstorm is Storm having never been cured of Dracula's bite...Iceman has never recovered from Loki's power amping...Brute is Beast, mutated too far and seriously unintelligent...and Maddy Pryor as the Goblin Queen.

Loved the entire run and own it all. If you get the chance, read it.

I totally agree. This was a title I was also going to eventually mention. If you like Exiles and the different versions of 616 heroes, then this should be a title you will like. The worst thing about it is the fact they cancelled the title.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/55596327690.7.GIF

Phaed

The Question
07-08-2005, 08:22 PM
I can't beleive no one has mentioned this one yet. Oh well:


YOUNG JUSTICE
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This book is, in my honest opinion, comic book writeing at it's best. The basic plot is that it's Teen Titans 2.0. The cast includes:

Superboy: An egotistical, thrill seaking jock with a heart of gold.
Wondergirl: A sidekick who wants to become the greatest superhero of them all.
Arrowett: A vigilante who was forced into the buisness by her mother.
Impulse: A computer nerd prankster who never thinks befor or after he does something.
Secret: A mesterious ghost girl. Her story is a major sub plot.
Robin: An inteligent loner. He's one of the few people on the team who takes the job seriously. He and Superboy argue alot.

This book gets everything right. The jokes are funny. The stories are well written. The drama is heartwrenching. The christmas special will leave you doubled over with laughter. The issue dealling with racism will leave you touched and thinking. And don't even get me started about the issue where Lobo (yes Lobo. The main man himself) is de-aged by a wizard. This book, done by Peter David and Todd Nauk, is just bloody brilliant. The entire series is 55 issues long. If you like the current Teen Titans, then this series will blow you out of the water. It is superior to the current Teen Titans in every way and is far more origional.


Well?



What are you waiting for?


GO GET IT!!!!!!

JewishHobbit
07-08-2005, 08:49 PM
Good Suggestions with Mutant X. I absolutely LOVED that title!

Unthinkable
07-08-2005, 09:28 PM
You could buy the entire first season in hardback. Or you could buy the three digests. Then again, you could also start at the begining of the second season, which would be issue one #1.

Does anyone else get bugged by Marvel relauching "seasons" or whatever? You'd think they never heard of fill-in stories before. :o

Anyway, my personal favorite comic by Marvel is Dr. Strange and Dr.Doom: Triumph and Torment. This stunning piece of work done by Roger Stern (writer) and the ever excellent Mike Mignola (artist), is probably my favorite Doom story, barely edging out Unthinkable (what this SN is named after).

Its a very excellent origin story for Dr. Doom. The aged Gahngis sends out a message to all the mystical powerhouses that the competition for Sorcecer Supreme will be decided in a temple. Doom shows up, as does Strange, and in the ensuing conflict for the title, Strange wins, of course. But he must grant Doom a boon, who got second.

Doom requests that Strange helps him save his mother's soul from the grips of Mephisto, and Strange and Doom go into hell and have a really, really cool adventure. :up:

http://www.docstrange.com/images/jpg/dsddtt_hc_300.jpg

My next recommendation is for the comic that got me into this, and one that I hold dear to me. I was losing someone close to me to cancer, and my older brother (the orginal Unthinkable, I just stole his SN) gave me this comic, to console me.

It was the Death of Captain Marvel.

Captain Marvel had contracted cancer from a battle a long time ago, and now his body was finally dying from it. As he slowly passes, the universes greatest heroes come to pay respects, as the greatest minds try to scramble for a cure. Alas they can't, and he passes. Definetly by far the most touching story done ever by Marvel, this story transcends the outlandish suits, and flashy battles. Its a masterpiece in every sense of the word. Every Marvel, no every COMIC fan should have this classic. :up:

http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/deathcapmarvel.jpg

Unthinkable
07-08-2005, 09:30 PM
I just realized that I named two orginal graphic novels by Marvel. I heard somewhere that they are making new ones, though Joe Q said that they aren't in the fiscal gameplan or whatever. That is too bad, I believe that they are an excellent format, and some of Marvel's best stories was told in that format...

Unthinkable
07-08-2005, 09:52 PM
You could buy the entire first season in hardback. Or you could buy the three digests. Then again, you could also start at the begining of the second season, which would be issue one #1.

Man, when you said hardback, I just remembered Renaud Man.. Remember the guy who lusted after hardcovers?....He was hilarious, in a sad, dopey kind of way.

Anubis
07-08-2005, 10:01 PM
Yeah, I remember that dork.


is tere a thirde season cuase I was checking midtown and they had a vol 3 and since im familiar with their backstoies id figured id start with the current arc but Im not sure which issue/volume there on

There has only been two seasons so far. the current book is season two. It got the relaunch because it wasn't selling well, but, due to critic and fan outcry, they decided to relaunch it and actually put some more advertising on the book. It's been doing okay ever scince. there gonna do the same thing with She-Hulk. The last run by Dan Slott was great. They are gonna relaunch that book later this year. Also, highly recommended.

Elijya
07-11-2005, 01:39 PM
Squadron Supreme was Watchmen before Watchmen existed. Originally published as a 12 issue maxi series by Marvel in the early 80's, it was written by the late, great, Marvel editor, Mark Gruenwald.

The Squadron Supreme characters first appeared in the early 70ís in the Avengers as the heroes of earth in another dimension. Obviously, each of the teamís members were based off the Justice League. They essentially served as a way to have the Avengers and Justice League team up or fight without having to go through the red tape of an inter company crossover. They made sporadic appearances over the years, but in them Mark Gruenwald saw the potential vehicle to write what would be his life's greatest work.

The original 12 issue Squadron Supreme series served as an examination of the Lord Acton saying that "Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". The Squadron, worried that the world may not be able to take care of itself, decides that they should take a more active role in helping it. The slow descent into dictatorship is saddening, as characters rationalize their increasingly totalitarian behavior. At the same time, the book remains a simple superhero story that makes it compelling and entertaining to read. It later served to be a large influence in other comics, particularly The Authority.

The complete series is available in a collected edition and can be found at most comic book stores. Bookstores should be able to order it for you. On an interesting side note, after Mark Gruenwald passed on, his will stipulated that he be cremated, and his ashes mixed with the ink used in one printing of the Squadron Supreme graphic novel, so he could be part of his work forever.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/79055525054.1.GIF
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/sep29/tradepaperback.jpg



Warning: Adult Content. The recommended book below contains foul language, and may contain nudity or other material you may find offensive

Supreme Power is a modern day up-date of the original Squadron Supreme concept, starting from scratch. While the original characters were established heroes, here, we see them start from the beginning. Written by J. Michael Straczynski (he of Babylon 5 and Amazing Spider-Man fame) with art by Gary Frank, the book currently falls under Marvelís MAX line, which allows adult content (plenty of swearing and occasional boobies) which helps add to the books overall more mature feel.

Supreme Power opens with a familiar scene: an alien rocket carrying a baby crashes in a field and is discovered by a married couple. Without children of their own, they decide the child should be raised properly. The government agrees and promptly relieves the couple of the custody of the child. Realizing his potential as a weapon, the government endeavors to grow the child into someone who will be loyal and obedient to them. The first several issues of the book focus on the raising of the child, whom they name Mark Milton, and codename Hyperion. As he grows up, Mark discovers he is not alone in this world. There are others like him, and all seem to have some connection to his arrival on earth. He begins to question the authority placed over him, and comes to the realization he is under no obligations to listen to anyone. But where this revelation will take him is anyoneís guess.

Currently, Supreme Power is one of the best books Marvel is putting out. There are two soft covers collecting the first twelve issues of the series, and a hardcover collecting the same (the Hardcover is cheaper than the first two, and contains extras features). In addition to the monthly ongoing, a Doctor Spectrum 6 issue miniseries finished a few months ago (Dr. Spectrum is the Green Lantern equivilent), and 6 issues miniseries for Hyperion and Nighthawk (ĎBatmaní) are on the way. The Supreme Power MAX ongoing ends with issue 18, and will be relaunched under the Marvel Knights imprint with a new #1 (which means less bad words and boobies, but should still be excellent)

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/84479474584.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/84479474584.8.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/84479474584.11.GIF

Doc Destruction
07-11-2005, 02:18 PM
Let me say that the end of Squadron Supreme is one of the most tragic, horrifying endings I've ever read through. Some of the characters I would LOVE to see in other books, like Lamprey and Quagmire and Haywire.

I own the whole run, and it's one of my most cherished.

iloveclones
07-11-2005, 03:19 PM
The original 12 issue Squadron Supreme series served as an examination of the George Orwell philosophy that "Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Actually, that was Lord Acton who came up with that one (the quote, not the comic)

(plenty of swearing and occasional boobies)

Occasional?!? I wanna live where you do if that's occasional!

Those are two great series by the way. Great write-ups on both of them, Elijya.

Elijya
07-11-2005, 03:50 PM
Actually, that was Lord Acton who came up with that one (the quote, not the comic)

ah, thank you, it shall be edited


Occasional?!? I wanna live where you do if that's occasional!

hey, I'm engaged, pussy is a nightly gaurauntee, sorry if I'm desensitized

plus, I raised myself on Vertigo books and superhero hentai. comicbook boobies are old hat to me

lastly, yes, occassional boobies. Pick up a milo Manara book if you want wall-to-wall tits


Those are two great series by the way. Great write-ups on both of them, Elijya.
thanks, I wanted to put the effort in for these. Gruenwald deserves it :up:

Phaedrus45
07-11-2005, 05:46 PM
Issue Spotlight: Alpha Flight, vol. 1, issue #12

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/03018831342.12.GIF

Boy, I remember buying this issue when it came out, and by the time I got to the end, I was shocked. This comic dared to take the most recognized character on the team and kill him off. Plus, the way in which he died was so very memorable. AND, they kept him dead far, far longer than I thought they would. This one issue, to me, is the definitive Alpha Flight issue!

Anubis
07-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Okay, Grant Morrison's Animal Man run is one of the best runs ever on a comic. He was one of the first to take a so called "Lame Character" and make them interesting and make you actually care about them. Take Buddy Baker, husband, father, superhero with animal powers. A nobody with in the DC universe. But Morrison took Buddy on a wild ride of an adventrue that would shape the foundation of DC's Vertigo line. He broke the 4th wall and put himself in a story and it actually wasn't lame. He also took a more realistic approach with the character by making him an animal activist. I mean, if you know what it's like to be a killer whale or a baby seal, you most certainly wouldn't want them getting turned into Alpo now would you? Morrison took this D-List character and wrote some of the best stories I've ever read. It's weird, its fun, and it makes you think. And the end of his run will have in awe. Anyway, it's collected in three trades.


Animal Man

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/1563890054.jpg

Origin of the Species

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/156389890X.jpg

And Dues Ex Machina

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/156389968X.jpg

Highly recommended.

KAD
07-12-2005, 06:00 AM
Anubis did you get your copy of someplace strange?

Anubis
07-12-2005, 08:28 AM
Not yet.

KAD
07-12-2005, 09:06 AM
Not yet.


Kepp me posted I am so looking forward to another opinion on the title

Anubis
07-12-2005, 10:59 AM
sure thing.

Elijya
07-12-2005, 02:15 PM
I've put an index in the first post, for easy reference

Phaedrus45
07-12-2005, 02:24 PM
Avengers Forever was a twelve-issue mini series starring The Avengers. The series was written by Kurt Busiek and illustrated by Carlos Pacheco. The series revolved around the "Destiny War", a time-travel based conflict between Kang, The Conqueror and his future self, Immortus.

The Destiny War was ignited when Immortus sent his servant Tempus to kill an apparently critically ill Rick Jones on the moon, knowing that it was the Destiny Force about to manifest within Rick for the second time (after the first time during the Kree-Skrull War) that was killing him. Kang intervened, and the Kree Supreme Intelligence, who Rick had been brought to for examination, triggered Rick to use the Destiny Force to call a team of Avengers to him, plucked from time, causing Immortus' forces to withdraw, having failed to prevent what they had come to do.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05884596539.1.GIF

This collection is not for the new reader wanting to just get into Avengers, but for those who love the history of comics and the history of the Avengers. The writer knows his Marvel continuity, and each chapter is filled with references to Avengers comics of the past. PLUS, you even get an index at the end of each chapter letting you know where you can find out more of what has been happening or being refered to. This was definitely a gift for the die-hard fans.

The Question
07-12-2005, 02:49 PM
Uncle Sam
http://www.ultraviolet.freeserve.co.uk/Usam.jpg


This is, IMO, the best comic book ever. It is the story of Sam, a homless man who has visions of America's past and may or may not be Uncle Sam, the liveing embodyment of the human spirit. It is an in depth look at the mistakes of our past, polotics, corruption, the light and dark sides of human nature, and talking bears. Yes. I said it. Uncle Sam has a talking bear. It takes a look at the worst and best parts of the history of America, and other counries such as Britan, Russia, and France. It show us that, yes, America was built on strong moral ideas. But so was the U.S.S.R. Our ideals can be manipulated and perverted by weak, selfish people. Our country is becomeing increasingly corrupt and self centred. But it doesn't have to be that way. This is a must for anyone who is interested in politics, anyone who is interested in history, and anyone who is interested ina good story.

Elijya
07-12-2005, 03:04 PM
Uncle Sam
http://www.ultraviolet.freeserve.co.uk/Usam.jpg


This is, IMO, the best comic book ever. It is the story of Sam, a homless man who has visions of America's past and may or may not be Uncle Sam, the liveing embodyment of the human spirit. It is an in depth look at the mistakes of our past, polotics, corruption, the light and dark sides of human nature, and talking bears. Yes. I said it. Uncle Sam has a talking bear. It takes a look at the worst and best parts of the history of America, and other counries such as Britan, Russia, and France. It show us that, yes, America was built on strong moral ideas. But so was the U.S.S.R. Our ideals can be manipulated and perverted by weak, selfish people. Our country is becomeing increasingly corrupt and self centred. But it doesn't have to be that way. This is a must for anyone who is interested in politics, anyone who is interested in history, and anyone who is interested ina good story.

I'd also like to add that it contains some of Alex Ross's most powerful work ever

http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/books/unclesam/img/ineedyou.jpg
http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/books/unclesam/img/us2fire.jpg
http://www.alexrossart.com/gallery/books/unclesam/img/samface.jpg

The Question
07-12-2005, 03:05 PM
True. There's one I really like but can't post here. It's the one where Uncle Sam is on the recruitment poster, but his giveing the middle finger.

KAD
07-12-2005, 04:32 PM
Some odd books to have in your posession would be:

Eradicators: Decent indie book. First Ron Lim. Average team book.

Faust: Tim Vigil. A walk on the very dark side of comics. Incredible art.

Empire Lanes 1 & 2: Great take on D&D type fantasy.

Lobo ParamilitaryChristmas Special

Lobo

Ill think of more and post art when I get a chance.

Anubis
07-12-2005, 05:24 PM
Lobo ParamilitaryChristmas Special

"Die you Naughty Bastard!!!!"

Elijya
07-12-2005, 06:56 PM
Some odd books to have in your posession would be:

Eradicators: Decent indie book. First Ron Lim. Average team book.

Faust: Tim Vigil. A walk on the very dark side of comics. Incredible art.

Empire Lanes 1 & 2: Great take on D&D type fantasy.

Lobo ParamilitaryChristmas Special

Lobo

Ill think of more and post art when I get a chance.

:(.


Now, I've long had issues with people simply making lists of good books. I think it's important to pitch books to people, tell them what they're about instead of just giving them a title. Show some artwork. That way, they can judge for themselves a little better.... So what I'd ask you all to do is if you want to recommend something here, at least give a sentence or two about what the books is about and why you like it. Also tell them where they should start, how many books are in the series and such.

KAD
07-13-2005, 06:18 AM
Some odd books to have in your posession would be:

Eradicators: Decent indie book. First Ron Lim. Average team book.
the Eradicators is a group of heroes that come together to fight an intergalactic warlord. They are human martial artists and aliens with a robot or two thrown in.

Not high fair but fun comic. Also the first Ron Lim.

Faust: Tim Vigil. A walk on the very dark side of comics. Incredible art.

Faust is the story of M a crime lord and satanic cult leader that is trying to put Satan on top.

Faust is a homicidal maniac that was supposed to help M put the big S on top but his Love of rhis therapist changes that.

One of the goriest comics ever

Empire Lanes 1 & 2: Great take on D&D type fantasy.

EL is the story of a band of adventurers (alah D&D) that open a portal in a dungeon to escape some enemies. Upon exiting the portal they find themselves in modern day NY.

Very fun story good art.

Lobo ParamilitaryChristmas Special

Not much to say except that any book where the Easter bunny pays a hitman to off Saint Nick is a must have.

Lobo

One of the best mini series ever.

Ill think of more and post art when I get a chance.

KAD
07-13-2005, 06:19 AM
:(.

All in good time.

Elijya
07-13-2005, 08:03 AM
better, but still... :(

why don't you do full write ups instead of saying you'll come back to flesh out mini ones?

KAD
07-13-2005, 08:04 AM
please stop....

Please stop what?

You asked for a sentence or two about each book.

Ill write a synopsis of Lobo once I get a chance.

Elijya
07-13-2005, 08:10 AM
I'm sorry, I really hate to be whining about this, I really do, KAD

it's just, take a look at every other write up in this thread, then take a look at each of yours. There's a big difference in the amount of effort put into em

KAD
07-13-2005, 08:16 AM
I'm sorry, I really hate to be whining about this, I really do, KAD

it's just, take a look at every other write up in this thread, then take a look at each of yours. There's a big difference in the amount of effort put into em


Sorry about that.

I will write a synopsis of each offline and post when they reach critical mass.

Elijya
07-13-2005, 08:25 AM
thanks KAD. one of the main reasons I ask is anyone browsing through the recommends is likely to skip over a list, or not take to heart books you haven't described to them. Like I said, pitch the book, be a salesmen. You've got to inform, but not over-inform. Tell them the things that will make them WANT to read the book

a good template for these are the synopsis that are on the back of most trade paperback's

Anubis
07-13-2005, 11:16 AM
What would happen if Doom ruled the earth? Pretty much what happens in Empire. When a super villian finally gets what he wants, world domonation, he's faced with the question of, now what? This is the story of such a villian. Who through his own force of will, has managed to take over, but now he has to worry about rebels, plots to take his life, his own lackeys trying to put together a coup, and his if that aint enough, he has a teenage daughter to worry about. This is a great little story from Mark Waid about the price you pay for world domination. Highly recommended.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire3kitson.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire-tpb.jpg

Ben Urich
07-13-2005, 08:53 PM
I have to admit, I'm a DC/Marvel kind of guy. I hardly ever read any independent books because I have a lot of money and love invested in the DC and Marvel universes. That said, I was able to pick up a great indy book recently, and I really have to sell this to you all. I would be remiss if I didn't.
http://weblogs.variety.com/bags_and_boards/scurvydogs.jpg
Scurvy Dogs: Rags to Riches
Andrew Boyd and Ryan Yount
AiT/Planetlar (2005)
160 pages, B+W Interiors
Buy from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932051279/qid=1121305365/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2295427-9940060?v=glance&s=books)
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I love pirates. I think every fanboy loves pirates. Sadly, there aren't too many pirate comics out there (and no, that thing in Watchmen doesn't count). Andrew Boyd and Ryan Yount have delivered a hilarious pirate comic that'll please comic fans who prefer lighthearted humor (Spider-Man/Human Torch) over rape and gloom (Identity Crisis).
The story follows Blackbeard the Pirate and four of his quirky companions in the present day as they search for jobs, fight monkeys, and try to score with Vampirella.
You heard me.
Boyd's script is funny and the story only drags during the title's only two-issue arc, which seems a bit too serious when compared to the other stories. Yount's artwork is simple and cartoony, with a storytelling style similar to Michael Avon Oeming (Powers), although he isn't quite as dramatic.
Also in this collection - some concept artwork by Yount and commentary on every issue (although the commentary is in the back of the book, so you'll have to some flipping from page to page to really enjoy it).
Tell you what: if you see this in the store, read the first little story. It's about 8 pages and shows Blackbeard and Co's encounter with a ship of Portugese lepers. If you like that sequence (and you will, trust me) - you'll LOVE the rest of the book.

Venom Drool
07-13-2005, 11:04 PM
anyone pick up mnemovore?
it was stuck to one of the issues i picked up today so i was wondering.. seeing as how i now have issue four.. if perhaps the series is as good as it appears to be from what i have read...

OtepApe
07-14-2005, 04:49 AM
Can anyone suggest some good Avengers stories for someone who is just getting into them?

Twitch
07-14-2005, 08:22 AM
What would happen if Doom ruled the earth? Pretty much what happens in Empire. When a super villian finally gets what he wants, world domonation, he's faced with the question of, now what? This is the story of such a villian. Who through his own force of will, has managed to take over, but now he has to worry about rebels, plots to take his life, his own lackeys trying to put together a coup, and his if that aint enough, he has a teenage daughter to worry about. This is a great little story from Mark Waid about the price you pay for world domination. Highly recommended.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire3kitson.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/empire-tpb.jpg

What's the name of the book?

Doc Destruction
07-14-2005, 08:47 AM
Empire.

KAD
07-14-2005, 09:27 AM
Empire.


You want it all but you can't have it.

Phaedrus45
07-14-2005, 12:10 PM
You want it all but you can't have it.

Faith No More

Twitch
07-14-2005, 12:19 PM
Empire.

Thank you

Venom Drool
07-14-2005, 04:22 PM
anyone pick up Mnemovore?
it was stuck to one of the issues i picked up today so i was wondering.. seeing as how i now have issue four.. if perhaps the series is as good as it appears to be from what i have read...

...

Themanofbat
07-14-2005, 07:16 PM
I'd like to recommend the following.

Rex Mundi

Rex Mundi is a quest for the Holy Grail told as a murder mystery. It is a tale of sin, murder and redemption in an alternate-history Paris where magic is real and the Catholic Church never lost its grip on power. This critically acclaimed volume follows Doctor Julien Sauniere as he investigates the theft of a medieval scroll from a Paris church. He stumbles onto a series of horrific ritual murders and an ancient secret society somehow connected to the mysterious scroll. They must not slip back into the shadows, or they will kill again...

That description was stolen from the internet because I don't believe I could have summed it up any better. Having said that, I will add that Rex Mundi is arguably the most intelligent written comic I've had the pleasure to read in over 30 years of comic reading. The art is sweet, and the writing is even better. Not for everyone... for readers with brains only.

The first 12 issues are available in 2 TPBs.

Rex Mundi Volume 1: The Guardian Of The Temple
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1582403414.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Rex Mundi Volume 2: The River Underground
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1582404798.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

These two trades will catch you up to issue 12. Issue #13 is still on the racks, and #14 comes out in September.

:)

JewishHobbit
07-14-2005, 07:42 PM
I gotta say that looks good but I'm hesitant. Is it the type of book that makes the Church look bad? I'm not much into that (as I'm a christian myself). But I will say the premise sounds good!

The Question
07-14-2005, 07:50 PM
I don't think it's tryng to make christianity look bad. Just the flaws and corruption present in the church (which are present in every large orginization, by the way).

Dread
07-14-2005, 08:02 PM
And now for a recommendation in the opposite direction:

WILDGUARD
http://www.newmoanyeah.com/images/2003/other/wildguard_2.jpg

Launched from Image comics by the one-man writer/artist/colorist team of Todd Nauck (of YOUNG JUSTICE fame, another recommended title), this is his take on a brand new superhero team. Basically, it takes the gimmick of "reality TV" and runs with it in a tale of 3 producers using a reality try-out show to cast 5 heroes in to the televised team of Wildguard. Out of 500, only 5 will win, including one character who was voted in via online polling at Nauck's wildguard site (@ www.wildguard.com )

Casting Call collects the first 6 issues, soon to be available in TPB. The team is selected, including one via fan polls!

Firepower is a one-shot made available last year.
http://allgoods.ca/store/images/WILDGUARD%20FIREPOWER%201.jpg

And the 2-part Fool's Gold is out this month.

The book is fun, with some occasional twists that one may not see coming. Todd also is a cool artist, and he never lets a major plot-point dangle for like 6 issues. You can also enjoy free web-comics that take place in-between the official releases at www.wildguard.com/forum

If you like INVINCIBLE or YOUNG JUSTICE, y'know, fun superhero adventure, pick this up. You can order 'em right from the website! How convient is that?

JewishHobbit
07-14-2005, 08:05 PM
I don't think it's tryng to make christianity look bad. Just the flaws and corruption present in the church (which are present in every large orginization, by the way).

Oh I know. I'm not against it if it's a true representation or even one that just isn't "bashing" the church. Heck.. I loved the X-Men's Church of Humanity even though it showed the Church as racists.... because it was done in a way that it was obvious it didn't reflect the Church as a whole but those who were in the stories as individuals.

I may check it out, we'll see.

Lackey
07-14-2005, 08:22 PM
I gotta say that looks good but I'm hesitant. Is it the type of book that makes the Church look bad? I'm not much into that (as I'm a christian myself). But I will say the premise sounds good!


are you Catholic? it only makes the Catholic church look bad ;)



seriously, though, it is excellent... I think you'd love it.

like lupus kinda said, there will corruption in any large organization with absolute power...that's just human nature.

JewishHobbit
07-14-2005, 08:24 PM
are you Catholic? it only makes the Catholic church look bad ;)



seriously, though, it is excellent... I think you'd love it.

like lupus kinda said, there will corruption in any large organization with absolute power...that's just human nature.

No not Catholic,.. though I respect them. I'm Penticostle.. the wierd Holy Roller types that people make fun of that fall on the ground and all that.

And trust me, I know about the corruption and all that in organiized religion. My own Pastor was removed a few years ago for having affairs and there's been about 3 others in my area removed for various reasons. I'm not blind in that,.. I just dont' like pointless jabs at religion for nothing more than to just do it.

If I see the book I may check it out... it does sound promising.

The Question
07-14-2005, 08:24 PM
"like lupus kinda said, there will corruption in any large organization with absolute power...that's just human nature."


Exactly. Just look at Time/Warner. *rimshot*

Anubis
07-16-2005, 12:00 PM
Hey KAD, I finally read Someplace Strange, and man, it was......Strange. I mean, the dialog was kooky as hell. What kinda drugs was Ann Nocenti on when she wrote this stuff? But, it was good. Weird, but good. Loved the little protions where they told you how to look at the picture. Like, when Joy's creation shows up and they told us, "For Maximum Effect, place nose here and look up slowly...shudder with respectful terror then turn the page quick before that fetid foot flattens your face!" Sweet. :up:

Killgore
07-16-2005, 09:18 PM
Is there a place on these boards where we can trade trade paperbacks? Trade Trades. If not, that should be the thread title.

GHollywood
07-16-2005, 10:14 PM
I'm gonna recomend Girls the new comic by the Luna Bros. I havent Ultra, but they say its better. Only 2 came out, but the comic shops around me sell out of them fast already. Oh plus a variant of the first came out for cover price. The Luna bros from what i have seen so far are really good. I hope Marvel or DC picks them up soon.


Written by Joshua Luna
Art and cover by Jonathan Luna

Ethan Daniels can’t seem to get laid. Not that’s he’s a bad looking guy, nor is he socially retarded. He’s just a typical bachelor who suffers from one, infallible truth: women are complicated. One night, he bumps into a mysterious woman who will change his life… and maybe even the world.


Heres #1
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/Deadpool187/Girls1.jpg
Heres #1 variant
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/Deadpool187/.Girls1.jpg
Heres #2
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/Deadpool187/.Girls2.jpg
heres #3
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/Deadpool187/Girls3.jpg

CantThinkOfAName
07-16-2005, 10:20 PM
No not Catholic,.. though I respect them. I'm Penticostle.. the wierd Holy Roller types that people make fun of that fall on the ground and all that.Don't worry, Protestantism doesn't exist in the world of Rex Mundi, so they can't bash your religion;)

But it doesn't bash religion at all, but does depict corruption in a religious organization. Still, its highly intelligent and quite a mystery book. I think you'll enjoy it quite a bit. At the very least, you can try out one trade:)

I remember Image used to have all of Rex Mundi #0 on their website, but that was a while ago. I'll see if i can find it again.

Anubis
07-17-2005, 08:25 AM
Well, seeing as GHollywood already got Girls, I figured I should do Ultra. I can second his motion that the Luna brothers rock. Girls is very good right now and Ultra was fantastic. The trade is already out and it is highly recommended. Heres the solicitation for the trade from Midtown COmics:


In Spring City, where superheroes blur the lines between law enforcement and celebrity, Pearl Penalosa, AKA Ultra, is a workaholic. At the prestigious agency, Heroine Inc., she has earned a legion of fans, a nomination for "Best Heroine of the Year" and a perfect life. Well, almost perfect. A chance encounter with a mysterious fortune teller prophesizes true love for Pearl within seven days.

The three main characters:

Ultra
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Cowgirl
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and Aphrodite
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KAD
07-17-2005, 09:26 AM
Hey KAD, I finally read Someplace Strange, and man, it was......Strange. I mean, the dialog was kooky as hell. What kinda drugs was Ann Nocenti on when she wrote this stuff? But, it was good. Weird, but good. Loved the little protions where they told you how to look at the picture. Like, when Joy's creation shows up and they told us, "For Maximum Effect, place nose here and look up slowly...shudder with respectful terror then turn the page quick before that fetid foot flattens your face!" Sweet. :up:


Anubis,

Glad you liked it.

Definitly quirky book but great nontheless.

I hope other hypsters pick it up.

It always brings me back to being a kid again when I read it.

Killgore
07-17-2005, 10:02 PM
Swing over to Sequential Swap (www.sequentialswap.com) to trade your stuff. It's quite a community. Any other graphic novel trading places out there?

Ben Urich
07-18-2005, 08:06 AM
Do I need to read Ultra in order to understand Girls? Or can I just read Girls? :confused:

Elijya
07-18-2005, 08:42 AM
Do I need to read Ultra in order to understand Girls? Or can I just read Girls? :confused:
I haven't read ULtra, but Girls stands on it's on for me. I didn't think they had any connection other than the creators

DBM
07-20-2005, 08:49 AM
I haven't read ULtra, but Girls stands on it's on for me. I didn't think they had any connection other than the creators

That's right. They are totally seperate stories.

Darthkush
07-21-2005, 08:08 AM
wow, other hypers who read Girls and Ultra? awesome. I thought i was the only one who ever heard of it. Whenver i bring it up to friends, there like,"wtf is that?" and i have to explain it. It's pretty popular at my comic store. If I didn't have it in my pull box, I wouldn't be able to get them.

Ben Urich
07-21-2005, 09:30 AM
I scored the last issue of Girls #1 from a comic store the other day.
No sign of #2 anywhere.
Gotta call the place where I get my subs, make sure #3 is in my box.
It's awesome so far :up:

Anubis
07-30-2005, 08:13 PM
I'd like to recommend Judd Winicks book, Caper. It was the story of a family throughout three generations. It is seperated into three 4 issue arcs. Each arc goes into a different genre. The first being a old time ganster sort of thing. Reminds me of Once upon a time in America. Then you have thriller,followed by the last arc which was a comedy. All very good. Check it out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/other%20stuff/19353_ful.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/other%20stuff/22407_ful.jpg

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Unthinkable
07-30-2005, 09:29 PM
Elijya, update the front page. :o

On that note, Concrete. This is truly some excellent stuff. Wanna know why? Even Alan Moore said it was amazing... And when he likes it, its pretty much automatically good. Concrete is about some guy who gets abducted by aliens, and has his brain transmitted into a hard rock body, hence the title. What goes on after is quite frankly, some of the best comic reading out there peroid. Its won 8 Eisners, its just pure gold. Whatever you can find of it, buy, don't even think, just buy, its that good. :up:

http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/dh/concrete_short_95.jpg

Unthinkable
07-30-2005, 09:30 PM
What are some other Batman novels I should get? I already got both TLH and Y1,and felt pretty meh about both.Are there any other novels any better?

Batman Black and White, dammit!

Phaedrus45
08-03-2005, 01:04 PM
I was thinking about story-arcs I really enjoyed, and this is the one from Silver Surfer that always comes to mind. I really need to re-read it, but it was written by George Perez, and was so different from everything that was being written at the time. I believe the story takes place between issues #111 - 121. Most people can probably find this sucker in the bargain bins:



http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/74638335496.111.GIF

Like I said, I need to re-read it, but it involved the Silver Surfer being broken into numerous pieces. Much of the story didn't involve the Surfer, but a new collection of characters.

Phaed

Phaedrus45
08-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Another arc was the Galactic Storm story that was in seven different comics at the time, and must have been about 21 parts in total:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05815547774.345.GIF

West Coast Avengers, Avengers, WonderMan, Iron Man, Captain America, Quasar are the ones I can remember off the bat...don't know the seventh...but, it was the end-all battle between the Skrulls and the Kree, with the Shiar thrown into the mix, too. It culminated in a decision that was to change how each member felt about each other. Not sure, but I can't recall it ever being put into TPB form.

Phaed

KAD
08-03-2005, 01:24 PM
Another arc was the Galactic Storm story that was in seven different comics at the time, and must have been about 21 parts in total:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05815547774.345.GIF

West Coast Avengers, Avengers, WonderMan, Iron Man, Captain America, Quasar are the ones I can remember off the bat...don't know the seventh...but, it was the end-all battle between the Skrulls and the Kree, with the Shiar thrown into the mix, too. It culminated in a decision that was to change how each member felt about each other. Not sure, but I can't recall it ever being put into TPB form.

Phaed


I own a wonderman splash page from that story.

The Question
08-03-2005, 01:40 PM
For anyone who's a fan of Thanos and loves to see superheroes die in sick, sadistic, and twistidly comical ways, I recomend....






THE INFINITY GAUNTLET


http://gr.bolt.com/chatter/mailbag/infinity_gauntlet.jpg


The story: Thanos gains the power of a god and kills everything. It's essentially an entire mini series of "OWNED!" pictures. But ist's hella cool. It has some of the best, most brutal, most kickass fight scenes in the history of Marvel comics. Thanos is the epitimy of badass in this book. This is the book that made me love Thanos.

This is what the cover of the TPB looks like:
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/new_graphic_novel179.jpg

If you like Thanos or just want to read a book with a galaxy shatering storyline and near apokoliptic events, get Infinity Gauntlet!

Anubis
08-03-2005, 03:40 PM
I finally read The Last Avengers Story. Gotta tell you, I didn't really like it. It had it's moments, like when Jan killed Kang. And the fight between Wonderman and Hulk. But, I don't know. I just wasn't feeling it. Maybe it was the art? I don't know. It just didn't grab me.

Killgore
08-09-2005, 07:39 AM
WANTED
Written by Mark Millar
Penciled by J.G. Jones
Published by Image Comics

http://www.hillcity-comics.com/comics/01_21_05_39.jpg

While Watchmen is generally seen as hugely influential on superhero comics since the mid-1980s, not many creators have paid homage to that landmark series by attempting a similar story; my guess would be that Watchmen was so critically and commercially successful that writers and artists who were inspired by its style and substance may have been intimidated by the idea of creating a new work that would inevitably be compared to its inspiration. It will come as little surprise to readers of Mark Millar's Authority and The Ultimates that he is not easily intimidated.

In a world where comics creators often go out of their way to shock readers, Millar has made a name for himself by giving us believable characters who act in appallingly realistic, wildly entertaining ways. In Wanted Millar and artist JG Jones explore the inner world of a super-villain as he learns his trade. Wesley Gibson is inducted into "The Fraternity" after his (previously unknown) father is murdered. Turns out dear old Dad was a master villain named The Killer, and Wesley -- lost in a bad relationship and kind of pathetic overall -- is tracked down and told he can inherit his father's vast fortune if he takes up his legacy.

In the manner of Alan Moore in Watchmen or Kurt Busiek in Astro City, Millar creates a new, dangerous world out of whole cloth. References to a greater community of super beings and a convincing look at the ones onscreen serve to deliver a genuine sense that this is an established universe we are exploring, while organically-introduced details about Wesley and his life deliver a sympathetic character by which we can explore.

As a creator-owned project, this is the next logical step for Millar after books like The Authority and The Ultimates -- a harrowing exploration of power and perversion that shocks and entertains, with no editorial restrictions or corporate involvement interfering with Millar's story. As you might expect after the exquisite visuals he delivered on Grant Morrison's Marvel Boy, artist JG Jones gives us a summer blockbuster-type level of action and detail that make the book visually addictive and totally in the spirit of The Authority and The Ultimates in the best way possible. Jones is really underrated, in my opinion, and is a top superhero action artist every bit as compelling and exciting as peers like Bryan Hitch and Frank Quitely.

Elijya
08-09-2005, 09:03 AM
Justice League

There are something like 15 trades collecting the different storyarcs of the ongoing Justice League series right now. Each on tends to be a completely stand alone story, and are for the most part quality. If you're not the type opf person who generally likes solo stories about Superman, Green Lantern, or the others, a Justice LEague story is where these characters shine because they play off each other, and the group dynamics are alot of fun.

While the quality of the different books varies greatly with the changing creative teams, one book stands above them all: Tower of Babel. It's often said that through his sheer ingenuity and preperation, Batman is ready to take down anyone in the DC Universe, including it's heroes, his friends. But what happens when one of their deadliest villains gets ahold of these tactics, and puts them into effect? All around, an awesome fun story by Mark Waid :up:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/44114435418.1.GIF


another one worth mentioning is JLA: Year One. While not an overly complicated story, this 12 issues mini series goes into the formation, and the Heart of the group. Before Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman joined the team, the Justice League was just five people trying to find their places in the world, and decided to do it together. But first they must learn to trust one another. By Mark Waid

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/44127472598.1.GIF

Elijya
08-09-2005, 10:12 AM
OMG, WTF is wrong with us!?!? We haven’t done any Dan Slott books yet!. (ok, well, Spideyinatree did Spider-man/Human torch on Page 3)

Dan Slott is a rising talent in comicdom and has quickly proven himself to be one of the premiere comedy writers.

His breakout hit was the critically acclaimed She-Hulk. Dan’s run lasted 12 issues, which are collected in two different softcover volumes. The series was relaunched this past fall.

Dan gets back to basics and throws She-Hulk right back into the arena: The Courtroom. The series sees She-Hulk dueling legal battles as often as she does real ones, with a smart a comical twist. Her new law firm deals in supernormal laws. She defends a ghost at his own murder trial, helps Spider-Man sue the Daily Bugle for libel, and gets appointed a cosmic magistrate by the biggest judge in the universe, The Living Tribunal. All in all, one of the most fun series ever written, and a must own!

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/73746978705.7.GIF
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Elijya
08-09-2005, 10:12 AM
Great Lakes Avengers

The Great Lakes Avengers first appeared back in the 80’s as a team of ineffective superheroes in West Coast Avengers. Originally founded by Hawkeye and Mockingbird, their roster of all heart but no talent heroes included Big Bertha, the supermodel who can turn incredibly fat, Doorman, who acts as a living passage way, Dinah Soar, a mute humanoid pterodactyl, Flatman, the ambiguously gay stretchy guy, and their leader Mr. Immortal, who can’t die, but can’t do much else either. In early 2005, they were given their first 4 issue miniseries, intended to mock big “event” books like Avengers Disassembled with writer Dan Slott’s promise that a character would die in every issue! Along the way, new members joined, including the armored Grasshopper, and Squirrel Girl, who can communicate with squirrels, particularly her rodent sidekick, Monkey Joe. Squirrel Girl is an obscure, laughable character created in the early 90’s by the legendary Steve Ditko and only ever seen once when she teamed up with Iron Man to defeat Dr. Doom.

The miniseries was just a great read that will have you laughing the whole way. The trade just came out, and the one-shot follow up Christmas special GLX-Mas is on stands now.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/35897873753.1.GIF
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Elijya
08-09-2005, 10:13 AM
Arkham Asylum: Living Hell


A few people have told me they didnít care for this one so much, but I loved it. Set in Gotham Cityís famous mental institution, Living Hell is a dark but charming look at prison life amongst the criminally insane. While Batman and his familiar Rogueís gallery make appearances, they are brief, and the overlaying story is one of the prison itself, the people who inhabit it, and the dark secrets it holds. Several new rogues are introduced with fascinating concepts in the spirit of the traditionally twisted Batman villains. One of Dan Slottís first big breaks, itís not as comedic as his other efforts, but it succeeds in being engaging and a good read. With luck, Dan has plans for at least two follow ups that hopefully weíll get to see someday. A trade is available now.

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JewishHobbit
08-09-2005, 05:46 PM
The Child Within

Before I get into explaining the arc I will say that when I started collecting comics this was the arc out at the time for Spectacular Spiderman. I started with part 3 and that issue alone blew my socks off. I begged my mom to buy me the rest of it and through the next few months she got me the last two parts and I was just in love. Though I liked other Spidey books over those months this arc just put me in awe and the older I get the more I appreciate it.

Now, this is the story in Spectacular Spiderman 178-183 with an aftermath issue in 184. There are two big stories going on in this arc,... the first one is following the story of the villain named Vermin. We learn much of his background involving the torchers of being molested by your own father. We see Vermin's hatred of this battling his own desire to be with his family again and their reactions,.. and of course Spidey gets thrown in the middle. Extremely touching.

The second story is reguarding Harry Osborn's slow fall into madness until he finally claims his father's mantle of the Green Goblin once and forall. It is a sad thing to watch as Harry has been Pete's best friend for years and in this one arc he finally falls and becomes his worst enemy. We see the anguish in Harry as he battles his mind's ghosts wanting to be a loyal son to his father but a good friend to Peter and how this causes his insanity. Very well done and the final battle between he and Peter just gives you chills,.. all the way up to the very last touching panel. I would say that this is by far if not one of,.. the THE best spidey arc ever!

Note: Good side reading with this series is Kraven's Last Hunt as this is a type of sequel reguarding Vermin,.. but also the future issues of Spectacular Spiderman up through issue 200 where Peter and Harry's war finally comes to a conclusion in an amazingly touching final page.

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euroq
08-09-2005, 05:54 PM
I have to admit, I'm a DC/Marvel kind of guy. I hardly ever read any independent books because I have a lot of money and love invested in the DC and Marvel universes. That said, I was able to pick up a great indy book recently, and I really have to sell this to you all. I would be remiss if I didn't.
http://weblogs.variety.com/bags_and_boards/scurvydogs.jpg
Scurvy Dogs: Rags to Riches
Andrew Boyd and Ryan Yount
AiT/Planetlar (2005)
160 pages, B+W Interiors
Buy from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932051279/qid=1121305365/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2295427-9940060?v=glance&s=books)
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I love pirates. I think every fanboy loves pirates. Sadly, there aren't too many pirate comics out there (and no, that thing in Watchmen doesn't count). Andrew Boyd and Ryan Yount have delivered a hilarious pirate comic that'll please comic fans who prefer lighthearted humor (Spider-Man/Human Torch) over rape and gloom (Identity Crisis).
The story follows Blackbeard the Pirate and four of his quirky companions in the present day as they search for jobs, fight monkeys, and try to score with Vampirella.
You heard me.
Boyd's script is funny and the story only drags during the title's only two-issue arc, which seems a bit too serious when compared to the other stories. Yount's artwork is simple and cartoony, with a storytelling style similar to Michael Avon Oeming (Powers), although he isn't quite as dramatic.
Also in this collection - some concept artwork by Yount and commentary on every issue (although the commentary is in the back of the book, so you'll have to some flipping from page to page to really enjoy it).
Tell you what: if you see this in the store, read the first little story. It's about 8 pages and shows Blackbeard and Co's encounter with a ship of Portugese lepers. If you like that sequence (and you will, trust me) - you'll LOVE the rest of the book.

I haven't read Scurvy Dogs yet but I'm going to. This hilarious interview (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/pulse.cgi?http%3A//www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dget_topic%26f%3D36%26t%3D00 1653) of Boyd and Yount convinced me.

Phaedrus45
08-09-2005, 06:52 PM
I think I started reading this in college from a dorm friend, and I quickly picked up back issues. This was in my dormant stage (I had given up comics...girlfriend said basically, "Comics or me," and idiot I was, I said, "Ok, I love you....sex...errrr....you're more important than any silly old comics." Needless to say I have learned this idea of "if you love me you'll give up ____" is a condition in a relationship one should never have to tolerate....and, this is one I liked enough to decide to say, "Hell with it" and get.)

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/87766292394.1.GIF

Most of you know the book, or have seen the cartoon or tv show. The comic is way better than the two later. Basically, it's a humorous super-hero and what an idiot he is.

But, a lesser known book, of which I've only read the first issue, but I just loved.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/12492515112.1.GIF

I absolutely hated all of the "teenage mutant mice" and "turtles" and all the other crap that became so popular in the 80's, and this bear basically just wastes them, Punisher-style. Just a fun read, I just found the book again in a bargain bin today, and am re-enjoying it all these years later. (Still hate those damn turtles and hamsters!!)

Anubis
08-09-2005, 07:53 PM
Top Ten

One of Alan Moores best. This is the story about the tenth Precinct of Neopolis, a city, filled with superheros. These cops have to be pretty damn good to be able to deal with giant drunken Godzillas, allien pornstars, robot street gangs and interdimesional drug rings. The first volume of Top Ten follows the first days of new recruit, Toy Box. This young lady gets parntered up with one of the badest mofo's you'll ever see in a comic, Jeff Smax. (Thats the big blue guy with the hand on his chest.) You'll meet all the others, Shock-Headed Peter, The cowboy Dust Devil, Girl One, Irma Geddon, Peregrine, The devil Worshiping King Peacock, The super smart Doberman Kemlo Ceaser and Jack Phantom. This book is one part hill street blues, one part Reno 911, with a dash of NYPD Blue, with Superheros. Great book man, you'd be insane to miss out on this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC/topten-tpb1.jpg

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Lackey
08-09-2005, 09:50 PM
nice recommendation... I usually describe that series to people as "POWERS on acid" :up:

I gotta do a write up for Moore's mini featuring Jeff Smax, but I'm too lazy :(

Have you read that one, Anubis?

Lackey
08-09-2005, 09:54 PM
Elijya, update the front page. :o

On that note, Concrete. This is truly some excellent stuff. Wanna know why? Even Alan Moore said it was amazing... And when he likes it, its pretty much automatically good. Concrete is about some guy who gets abducted by aliens, and has his brain transmitted into a hard rock body, hence the title. What goes on after is quite frankly, some of the best comic reading out there peroid. Its won 8 Eisners, its just pure gold. Whatever you can find of it, buy, don't even think, just buy, its that good. :up:

http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/dh/concrete_short_95.jpg


there's a new trade coming out tomorrow, a good starting point

http://superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6379354&postcount=42

Anubis
08-09-2005, 11:06 PM
nice recommendation... I usually describe that series to people as "POWERS on acid" :up:

I gotta do a write up for Moore's mini featuring Jeff Smax, but I'm too lazy :(

Have you read that one, Anubis?

Yeah, I read it. It was good. Did you read Top Ten the 49ers? Came out awhile ago. I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Plus theres another mini coming out. I think Jet Man gets Outed or something.

Rob H
08-10-2005, 02:04 AM
Great thread guys. Keep up the recommendations.

Will there be another Thor ongoing series in the coming months?

How's JLA at the moment? I don't read much DC at all. Starting today, I'm reading Green Arrow, Flash and AS Batman and Robin.

Elijya
08-10-2005, 08:24 AM
JLA is very good at the moment, it's spinniong out of the miniseries called Identity crisis they did last year. As soon as that trade comes out, you NEED to get it

Thor will have a miniseries coming in a few months, but at the moment he's dead

Rob H
08-10-2005, 08:37 AM
Well that's good to know. I've already read the Identity Crisis mini so I guess JLA'll make some sense if I start now.

I've never read any Thor... I've always been interested in the character though.

SpideyInATree
08-10-2005, 08:46 AM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563893428.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS
Writer: Frank Miller
Pencils: Frank Miller
Inker: Klaus Janson

Bruce Wayne has retired from being Batman for 10 years now. Though the city he once protected has fallen into darker times once again. Crime has escalated and Bruce Wayne's old ghosts begin to haunt him. After ten years Bruce Wayne must put on the Batman costume to clean up his city, and he may die trying.

I really reccommend this. If you enjoy anything Batman this book is for you without a doubt. Even if you're not a fan of Batman you can seriously find enjoyment from this title and the amazing writing and artwork from Frank Miller. This is definitely a book that should be in your graphic novel or comic book collection.

Elijya
08-10-2005, 10:56 AM
Well that's good to know. I've already read the Identity Crisis mini so I guess JLA'll make some sense if I start now.

I've never read any Thor... I've always been interested in the character though.


I wrote up some Thor recommends on page 3

as for Justice League, go back 2-3 issues and start with #115, that's where they Identity Crisis follow up arc begins

Rob H
08-10-2005, 07:42 PM
I remember reading Identity Crisis and not knowing most (if not all) of the characters. I can't believe how out of the DC loop I've been. However, I did read Tower of Babel a while back and enjoyed that quite a bit. I'll go back to #115..... thanks alot Elijya. You've been alot of help.

Elijya
08-11-2005, 12:16 AM
no prob, always enjoy helping out a new reader :up:

when you get curious, try branching out into some of the non-superhero comics out there

Anubis
08-11-2005, 08:31 PM
Sleeper

This right here, is some of Ed Brubaker's best work. Sleeper is the tragic story of Agent Holden Carver. A secret agent with the government, under the direction of master spy John Lynch. (Think Nick Fury minus the eye patch and with mind control powers) He infultrates the secret criminal organization of a supervillian mastermind by the name of Tao. Lynch is the only one who knows where Holdens allegence really is lies. As far as the rest of the world knows, he's a rogue agent with stolen powers. Which pretty much sucks because Lynch gets taken down with a bullet to the head. So, he's stuck having to survive on his own with the government after him, haters within Tao's organization trying to get him killed, and a super criminial mastermind who seemsto know everything to worry about.

Serioulsy a great read. With great characters, (Miss Misery) great origins, (Miss Misery again) and great powers ( Holdens are pretty damn inventive as is *** Hag's. :D ) Highly recommended for those that like dark stories. Plus it's great to see life on the other side of the law.

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Dr.Fear
08-11-2005, 09:27 PM
is it bad if i didnt like she hulk? his spiderman/human torch was good tho!

Ben Urich
08-11-2005, 09:33 PM
Where the hell is the grammar? :confused:

The Question
08-11-2005, 09:54 PM
The Question by Dennie O'Neil and Denys Cowan
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c8/Question_34.jpg/250px-Question_34.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Question_34.jpg)


Title: The Question
Writer/Artist: Denny O'Neil and Denys Cowan.
Publisher: DC comics
Genre: Crime, philosophy, suggested for mature readers.
Summary: Charles Victor Szazs is an orphan. He never knew his parents, and his name was given to him by the nuns of the orphanige. Vic Sage is a rude, arrogant, trouble making crusading reporter for KBEL news. Think if Hunter S. Thompson had Bill O'Riley's job. What's the connectio between the two? Well, they do have alot of things in common. The biggest of which is that they're the same person. And, neither of them are this individual's true identity. What is his true identity? Well, that's the question, isn't it?

In 1986, Denny O'Neil took the reigns of The Question and gave him his own solo series. The Question, along with the rest of the Charlton Action Heroes, had been purchased by DC a few years earlier and integrated into the DCU by the Crisis on Infinite Earths. O'Neil took the character, who was already rather innovative for his time, and expanded upon him greatly. He gave hikm a backstory, a larger supporting cast, and a good deal more depth. With The Question, O'Neil crafted a brilliant series that comprises of, in equal parts, philisophical battles of will and words and well crafted crime noir. The series is heavily serialized, introducing concepts in issues five and six that are resolved in issue 23.

Most interesting of all is the character's motivation. He's not motivated by vengence or the need to uphold a greater good or a devotion to a higher power. He's motivated by curiosity. Curiosity, both in the truth behind mysteries, and in himself. He doesn't know his birth name or his parents. In essence, he doesn't really know who he is. Putting on the mask, solving crimes, beating the holy hell out of people, that's the closest he comes to finding himself. And, since he doesn't know his real name, he simply uses the only answer he's able to give whenever someone asks who he ius. "That's a good question."
Format: 36 issues, four anuals, five quarterlies.
Amazon.com listing: They ain't got it.

Rob H
08-12-2005, 01:21 AM
no prob, always enjoy helping out a new reader :up:

when you get curious, try branching out into some of the non-superhero comics out there
What can I say? I love superhero stories. Thinking about giving Superman a try aswell. Not sure which one out of the three titles though.

DC seems to have alot to offer. I can tell you now, I'm only a half way through the Quiver trade and Ollie is well on his way to becoming my favorite.

Anubis
08-12-2005, 10:18 AM
If you wanna read Superman, you can't go wrong with Adventures of Superman. Rucka has put together a damn fine run on that book. Best out of all the Superman books at the moment.

Anubis
08-12-2005, 10:20 AM
Where the hell is the grammar? :confused:


I was in a hurry. I had to take a serious dump while I was typing that. Im' gonna go back and fix it later.

Rob H
08-12-2005, 11:00 AM
If you wanna read Superman, you can't go wrong with Adventures of Superman. Rucka has put together a damn fine run on that book. Best out of all the Superman books at the moment.
Done. I'll pick up what I can of the current arc this week. Thanks.

Elijya
08-12-2005, 05:51 PM
is it bad if i didnt like she hulk? his spiderman/human torch was good tho!
yes. you're a terrible, terrible person with no taste. please leave the internet

Elijya
08-12-2005, 05:54 PM
Done. I'll pick up what I can of the current arc this week. Thanks.
actually, you want to read an arc called "sacrifice" that just finished. It was four parts, ran throughout all three superman titles and ended in Wonderwoman

I hope your store still has the issues, though, they've been sold for most of the country

Punch
08-12-2005, 07:56 PM
Elektra Lives Again by Frank Miller and Lynn Varley

Matt Murdoch is haunted by dreams of the dead assassin Elektra, his former lover. In the dreams Elektra is being chased by all the people she has killed over the years, and as you may have guessed there happens to be alot of them. Matt becomes convinced that she's alive and that the dreams are trying to tell him something important.


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This graphic novel doesn't take place in continuity, but that's good, beacuse Miller is allowed more freedom to do what he does. The artwork is absolutely breathtaking, the pinnacle of the Miller/Varley team.
The fight scenes are among my favorites ever, showing Miller's unmatched skill at making combat look poetic
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The story leads Matt into confrontations with the Hand, Bullseye and Elektra herself in a haunting tale of love, regrets and learning to let the past go.

Punch
08-12-2005, 08:39 PM
Ronin by Frank Miller with Lynn Varley

Ronin tells the tale of a Samurai warrior who must avenge the death of his master at the hands of the demon Agat. Agat is after a magic sword, the only blade able to kill him, that is now in the hands of the Ronin. At the last minute, when it looks like the Ronin will get his revenge, The demon casts a spell, trapping both in the blade seemingly for eternity.
Through a series of events, both the demon and the Ronin are released for the blade in the 21st century, at the site of a huge scientific complex named Aquarius that is made of a substance that is alive in some aspects, it grows and changes on its own.
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At the core of operations at Aquarius is The sentient computer Virgo and Billy Challas, a powerful but kind telekenetic who happens to have no arms and legs.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/punch360/ro4.jpg

When released from the sword, the Ronin posesses Billy and escapes from Aquarius, stranded in a world he knows nothing about.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/punch360/ro3.jpg

Throughout the book, myth and reality become blurred as the worlds of science and magic collide.
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This book gets unfairly overshadowed by Miller's Dark Knight book. Ronin is a true masterpiece and paved the way for the work on Batman. There are complexities and moral ambiguity woven into the interactions between the characters, and by the end of the story, few of them end up where they started.
As a side note fans of Samurai Jack will notice some umistakable similarities in Ronin.
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DarkKnightJRK
08-13-2005, 01:34 AM
Someone mentioned earlier on the thread, Arkham Asylum: Living Hell. I haven't read it myself, but I have a feeling that it just can't possibly top its predecessor:

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Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth

Written by one of the three Comic Gods (including Miller and Moore) Grant Morrison and illustrated by Dave McKean (worked on Sandman and will be more well known for directing the upcoming Mirrormask).

Before this, I thought I had a preety sick mind and nothing could possibly disturb me. I read this, and was proven wrong. There are some truely frightning moments, but, I'm getting a little far. Here's the story.

The lunitics have tanken over Arkham Asylum. They've taken hostages and the police are trying to negotiate for their safe return. They've been given many things in exchange (mostly crazy things like furnature and stuffed animals)--but they have one last request: Batman. In Arkham Asylum with the rest of them. Batman agrees, and puts himself in the madhouse, and has to play the inmate's demented games...

Also, in-between the narrative with Batman in the Asylum, we learn the origins of the Asylum. We see it's creator, Amadeus Arkham, convert his old childhood home into an institute for the criminally insane, and how he becomes one of it's first occupants...

Like I said before, this is a very dark and disturbing tale. It truely is a gothic fairy tale, one practically stained with blood and insanity. Batman is at his most deranged and out-hinged. Going so far as to mutilate himself just to keep himself from permantly spacing out.

It's also Batman's villians at their best/worst. Dave McKean's vision of The Joker, combined with Morrison's demented writing style, makes one of the most frightning version of the character yet. Mad Hatter is written spectacular as well, showing one of the main themes of the book ("The Asylum is a looking glass, and WE are YOU."). The most surprisingly amazing addition is Maxie Zeus. Morrison made him extremely facinating and it's a shame he's only in there for one scene.

Another cool thing is the explanation of the character's insanity. Joker is diagnosed with a neuratotic disorder, like Torette's Syndrome, who makes himself each day. The way that the doctors were trying to cure Two-Face is a genius way as well. Even Batman's motivations are explained in an amazing new way ("There is nothing to hold onto. No anchor. Panic-stricken, I flee. I trun blindly through the madhouse. And I cannot even pray. For I have no God.").

Get it. Get it NOW.

Rob H
08-13-2005, 01:46 AM
actually, you want to read an arc called "sacrifice" that just finished. It was four parts, ran throughout all three superman titles and ended in Wonderwoman

I hope your store still has the issues, though, they've been sold for most of the countryThat's unfortunate but I'll give it a shot anyway. At least then, I'll be able to get a taste of each Superman book (and WW).

Elijya
08-13-2005, 09:04 AM
Written by one of the three Comic Gods (including Miller and Moore) Grant Morrison

maybe under the category of "modern day writers", but even then Gaimen belongs on the list. But more overall, you're forgetting guys like Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, William Gaines, etc.

Elijya
08-13-2005, 09:08 AM
That's unfortunate but I'll give it a shot anyway. At least then, I'll be able to get a taste of each Superman book (and WW).
here's an ebay auction for all 4 parts

http://cgi.ebay.com/SACRIFICE-set-4pt-Wonder-Woman-219-Superman-Action_W0QQitemZ6553189197QQcategoryZ32768QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

or if you want to try and buy the issues individually
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DarkKnightJRK
08-13-2005, 12:00 PM
maybe under the category of "modern day writers", but even then Gaimen belongs on the list. But more overall, you're forgetting guys like Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, William Gaines, etc.

True, though I've never been able to get through a Stan "The Man" issue of whatever. It's wierd.

JewishHobbit
08-13-2005, 12:33 PM
I was looking through the first issue of Dream Police at the story yesterday and it looked kinda neat. Has anyone read it that can confirm this and is there any more issue out after the first?

Anubis
08-13-2005, 12:58 PM
I read it. It was great. But it was just a one shot. Don't know if JMS is gonna get the chance to do an ongoing. Would be nice though.

JewishHobbit
08-13-2005, 01:27 PM
So is the one shot worth picking up while there's tons of other comics I'd regularly get that I still need?

Anubis
08-13-2005, 01:28 PM
Well, it's just one comic. I don't see why not.

Venom Drool
08-13-2005, 01:33 PM
heard goo thing about The Watchman

would be nice if we got a review

Elijya
08-13-2005, 01:49 PM
Dream Police was ok. Didn't find it particularly spectacular, but it wasn't bad

heard goo thing about The Watchman

would be nice if we got a review
yeah it would. I'm not a big Moore fan, though, so I'm not the one to write it

DarkKnightJRK
08-13-2005, 01:54 PM
heard goo thing about The Watchman

would be nice if we got a review

It's quite possibly one of the greatest comics ever made.

Get it. Get it NOW. Steal, pillage if you have to, just GET IT.

That a good enough review for you? ;)

Anubis
08-13-2005, 01:57 PM
I'll get around to it at some point. It just kinda seemed like an obvious recommendation. There are other less known stuff that should be pushed. Besides, what can be said about Watchmen that you haven't already heard? It's like comic book gospel. Just go buy it. Or, I don't know, steal it from the library or something.

Elijya
08-13-2005, 02:07 PM
I'll get around to it at some point. It just kinda seemed like an obvious recommendation. There are other less known stuff that should be pushed. Besides, what can be said about Watchmen that you haven't already heard? It's like comic book gospel. Just go buy it. Or, I don't know, steal it from the library or something.


that's another good point. I got very sick of new members starting threads asking for recommendations, and people shouting out Watchman immediately, without describing it in the least or asking questions to try and establish if it'd be something they'd like

Venom Drool
08-13-2005, 02:13 PM
well..im picking it up this week or next... i can write my review of it at thatpoint :)

Ben Urich
08-14-2005, 07:32 PM
Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale have become synonymous with one another. While they both have collaborated with other creators, both men seem to be at their best when they work together. And if you don't believe me, you can ask a Batman fan. They'll tell you all about it.
But I'm not here to recommend Loeb and Sale's Batman work; I'm here instead to present to you their first ever collaboration.
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The Challengers of the Unknown Must Die!
Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale
DC Comics (originally published in 1991, collected 2004)
224 pages, Color Interiors
Buy from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401203744/qid=1124065304/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-8058815-0701421?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
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If you're Joe Public, you've probably not heard of the Challengers of the Unknown. Hell, I consider myself to be comic knowledgeable (to a degree, folks, to a degree) and my first exposure to this band of super adventurers didn't come until Darwyn Cooke's stunning New Frontier series back in 2003. I was delighted to discover that prior knowledge of the Challengers is not a prerequisite for this book, although it'll certainly help.
The Challengers of the Unknown are a group of super adventurers. They have no superhuman powers but do possess a certain fearlessness.
What really makes them unique, though, is where they live: Challenger Mountain, located in Colorado, serves as their base of operations. It's also a tourist town, bustling with activity. When Challenger Mountain is blown up from the inside, causing the ruin of several thousands of lives, the Challegners themselves are put on trial. What follows is a bizarre and strange journey for the four of the team that make it out alive, as they try to discover life beyond adventuring. And there's something.... sinister at work, behind the scenes.
It just wouldn't be a Jeph Loeb book without a lengthy trial scene, and fortunately for us, Sale makes the courtroom issue painless - actually, he makes it enjoyable. What really shines about Sale's work is his versatility; if you need him to draw a mountain blowing up, he can do it. If you need him to draw Batman punching out a gang of rogues, he can do it. If you need him to draw a bunch of guys in suits talking, he can do it. The dude is just all over the place, and it's great.
Loeb also does the fans a favor by throwing in some great cameos. Superman plays a role (but doesn't dominate the story), Guy Gardner shows up, and there's a Batman appearance that'll make you laugh out loud.
Included in the collection is a funny introduction by industry lightingrod Brian Michael Bendis, who gushes over the book (and rightfully so). In the back, observe a cover gallery and some preliminary pencil sketches by Tim Sale.
Additionally, there's a previously unpublished epilogue included that ties up one last little bit of continuity left over from the story. It's refreshing, too, to see it printed in a day where continuity in comics is all but gone.
See if your library can get a copy of this for you - you'll want to read it before buying it. If you do decide to add it to your collection, you will have chosen wisely.

The Question
08-14-2005, 07:48 PM
Graet pick right there. And your reveiw reminded me....


DC: THE NEW FRONTIER

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This comic brilliantly portrays the end of the Golden age and the begining of the Silver age in the 1950s and 60s. It starts of somewhat similarly to John Byrne's "Next Generation" with having Batman and Superman starting in the early 40s and staying that way, but it is far better exicuted and doesn't mess with continuity to the point where the characers are unrecognizable. It also brilliantly reflects the time period in which it takes place, and flawlessly intergrates superheroes in to the cominist which hunts, racial issues, and political issues of the 50s and 60s. While the story brilliantly represents each hero pretty much equaly, the two main protagonists are Hal Jordan and J'onn Jonzz. Their stories, along with all the other heroes' stories, are just brilliantly written. And the art is top notch as well. Has a great, classy, retro feel to it that works perfectly for the story. Now, I know I've used the word brilliant several times in this reveiw. Wanna know why? Because this book is bloody brilliant. One of the best comics.....ever. It's as good if not (dare I say it?) better than The Watchmen.


Get it.



NOW!!!!


I know where you live.

Ben Urich
08-14-2005, 08:07 PM
I really don't think it's fair to compare New Frontier and Watchmen.
Really, New Frontier is like oldschool goodness whereas Watchmen is like, postapocalyptic hell.
Both are excellent, but I don't know that it's fair to compare. :o

The Question
08-14-2005, 08:09 PM
I suppose. I guess it's more comparable to Marvels. Okay.



Ahem.



It's as good if not (dare I say it?) better than Marvels.




That better?

JewishHobbit
08-14-2005, 08:20 PM
So is Watchmen as good as poeple say? I'm just asking this because I kept hearing how amazing Kingdom Come was and how it kicks Marvels's butt and Earth X doesn't hold a candle, etc etc etc. I've heard this for years and so I went and bought it off of ebay assuming it'd be worth it. I got it and read it and when I finished it my literal thought was,.. "Well at least the last half of the last issue was decent." I then listed it on ebay to try and get my money back.

If I tried to get Watchmen am I in for the same let down? Keep in mind unless the story is really good I'm not much on nudity, language, and gore.

Ben Urich
08-14-2005, 08:21 PM
Watchmen is awesome. I might have to take some time out and write the review for it here.
Certainly not for everyone, though, I don't think.

Anubis
08-14-2005, 09:31 PM
Look, I don't think its neccesary to make a recommendation for this. I mean, really, this is considered one of the greatest works of comic literature ever put to page. Anything I or anybody else can say is pointless. All it would do is add more hype to an already hyped up book. I don't know if you'll like it, all I can do is speak for myself. I love Watchmen. It stands as the greatest comic I have ever read. And as you can see by my previous recommendations, I have read alot of stuff. Will you like it? I don't know. Everybody has there own tastes about things. Elijya isn't really into Watchmen and I think he liked Squadron Supreme better. Thats his opinion. SO I can't gaurentee that it will be as good to you, as it is to me. But I can tell you that the majority of those that have read it, loved it. No matter what, if you call yourself a comicbook fan, you must read this. Thats all I can say. Now, as for what it's about? Well, it starts out as a simple murder mystery, but then it revals a complicated plot that isn't neccasarily evil. You've got great characters like the obsessed, slightly insane Rorschach. Or the God like Doctor Manhatten, who has grown board with the world. A guy who knows how everythings going to end, yet does nothing to stop it. Ozymandius, the smartest man in the world. A guy seemed to only be in the superhero game just for the fame. Nite Owl, the second generation hero whose life has just been on mute ever scince the events that lead most of the crime fighters into forced retirement. And the Silouette, stuck in a fading relationship with Dr. Manhatten. Longing to have her life back the way it was before....

It's got lots of things going on with it, in the trade you got excerpts of various books mentioned throughout the story. Such as the first Nite Owl's book. And Rorschach's psyic file. Everything, very interesting and if it were an actual book, hell you'd get a great read out of that alone. It's just, man, I can't really explain it. I'm holding it in my hand right now, using it for reference and, I just wanna read it again. It's one of those books you can just say, I'm gonna read a couple of chapeters and end losing five or six hours reading it. All I can say is just read it. Try a Library and check it out if you don't wanna buy it. They all should have it. Or at least you could order it. And really thats all I can say about it.

Anubis
08-14-2005, 09:41 PM
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Elijya
08-15-2005, 10:56 AM
So is Watchmen as good as poeple say? I'm just asking this because I kept hearing how amazing Kingdom Come was and how it kicks Marvels's butt and Earth X doesn't hold a candle, etc etc etc. I've heard this for years and so I went and bought it off of ebay assuming it'd be worth it. I got it and read it and when I finished it my literal thought was,.. "Well at least the last half of the last issue was decent." I then listed it on ebay to try and get my money back.

If I tried to get Watchmen am I in for the same let down? Keep in mind unless the story is really good I'm not much on nudity, language, and gore.
I think it might be an issue of people over-hyping things for you.

You're not much on Language? then I suggest you pick up the Nuff Said trade :D

If I recall correctly, there are degrees of sexuality and violence in Watchmen, but it's not done in a gratuitous manner, it's all there for a reason. If I recall, the character of Dr. Manhatten, who is an artificial construct, is nude at one point, but it's not like he has some huge boner sticking out, it's just there

JewishHobbit
08-15-2005, 02:04 PM
I think it might be an issue of people over-hyping things for you.

You're not much on Language? then I suggest you pick up the Nuff Said trade :D

If I recall correctly, there are degrees of sexuality and violence in Watchmen, but it's not done in a gratuitous manner, it's all there for a reason. If I recall, the character of Dr. Manhatten, who is an artificial construct, is nude at one point, but it's not like he has some huge boner sticking out, it's just there

As long as it's for a reason I don't mind it (for example,,, I don't mind Supreme Power because the language and nudity is for a reason. The only two scenes that did bother me was the parents having sex in the first issue because though it had a purpous it really wasn't necessary, and the second was the two issues where Zarda ran around nude. It had great purpous but was just a little too much for my tastes.) That'll give you an example of what I mean by not liking what I don't like. But if Watchmen only has the little you mention I may try it out.

Punch
08-15-2005, 02:05 PM
shouldn't this thread be sticky?

Elijya
08-15-2005, 02:08 PM
As long as it's for a reason I don't mind it (for example,,, I don't mind Supreme Power because the language and nudity is for a reason. The only two scenes that did bother me was the parents having sex in the first issue because though it had a purpous it really wasn't necessary, and the second was the two issues where Zarda ran around nude. It had great purpous but was just a little too much for my tastes.) That'll give you an example of what I mean by not liking what I don't like. But if Watchmen only has the little you mention I may try it out.
if you can deal with that, you should be able to handle Watchmen's content just fine

JewishHobbit
08-15-2005, 02:10 PM
Cool,.. thanks for the help Eli.

Elijya
08-15-2005, 02:11 PM
shouldn't this thread be sticky?
If I were a mod, then yes, I would probably make it a sticky. However, the mods here are not generally big on stickying threads, and only occassionally do it when there is some major news.

I don't think I've ever seen a sticky on any of the comics boards

mutant
08-15-2005, 05:13 PM
A few more recommendations: The Sandman and the Invisibles.
The Sandman comics tell the story of Dream, not the God of Dreams, but Dream itself. Dream, or Morpheus as he was called by the ancient Greeks, was captured by a sorcerer and missed most of the 20th century until he managed to escape. Dream is the member of the Endless, the oldest family that has ever existed. His older brother Destiny knows everything that has ever happened and will ever happen. His sister Death is the most beautiful woman you have ever seen. Desire is the giver and taker of everything and Despair will drive you crazy. Delirium and Destruction are his other two siblings. The book isn't just about these 7, older than Gods, entities, but about the daily struggles of the human races and how our dreams, our desires or death affect us. An absolute must if you're into mythology like I am.
http://ubbt.moby.com/userfiles/1585717-Death%20&%20Dream.jpg

Another title I would recommend is the Invisibles and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet. I've only read the first book (it's magnificent) and I'm surprised Morrison hasn't sued the Wachowski's for stealing his ideas to make the Matrix. Like someone else here said, it's a total mind*****. And Lord Fanny is probably the greatest character ever ;)
http://www.zianet.com/comic-booksuperstore/dc/invisibles-04.jpg

Killgore
08-18-2005, 08:08 AM
SUPERMAN: Secret Identity
Written by Kurt Busiek and penciled by Stuart Immonen
published by DC

http://ibulle.net/comics/images/originales/dccssiv1n001.jpg

It's about a boy in a "real world" whose parents had a sick sense of humour--having the last name of Kent, they named their son "Clark"--the "twist" being that Clark soon discovers that he really does have the powers of Superman--and so, the joke is on the rest of the world.

Each of the four chapters collected here focuses on a different part of Clark's life: the first on his childhood and his discovery of his powers and what he might be able to do with them; the second picks up a number of years later as Clark's into his career, and is introduced to a woman who adds to the "joke"; the third moves Clark into the realm of impending parenthood, and the concerns that come along with that, particularly given his "condition"; and the final chapter is set in Clark's twilight years, reflecting on his life and what he's done, and what his legacy to his children might be.

While something like this could almost make an interesting on-going series--sort of an "Ultimate Superman" or such--it is definitely far more effective as a four-chaptered story, giving a "beginning, middle, and end" to the reader. This is also very much a tale that can resonate with readers no matter what stage of life they're in, as it touches on so many of the "big things" in life.

Another great thing about this story is that by its nature, it transcends the issue of the "Silver Age" Superman vs. the "90s" Superman, or the more recent "Birthright" Superman and the WB's vision found in Smallville. Fans of any (or all) of these interpretations of the character should be able to enjoy this story.

Busiek's writing really shines here, and Immonen's art does nothing but enhance the writing, and convey the necessary mood for the book.

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Killgore
08-18-2005, 08:21 AM
Astro City
Written by Kurt Busiek
Illustrated by Alex Ross and Brent Anderson

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The Astro City stories each explore a world that feels comfortable, like a place we've visited before, despite still being shiny and new. In Astro City, heroes exist not just to get into brilliant battles with each other, but also to offer up insight to us on a variety of themes, including the old superhero standby about power and responsibility. In the very first Astro City story "In Dreams," a superhero known as Samaritan (an obvious Superman analogue) leads a life of emptiness. The only enjoyment in his life is the freedom he gets from flying, and even that he only gets a few seconds of flying each day between the disasters and various other crises he must combat.

That story and five others are collected in the first Astro City trade paperback, Astro City: Life in the Big City, a series of vignettes that each look at life in Astro City in a different way. Each story then also takes a different perspective on the superheroes that populate this metropolis, one the average reader might not be used to. From a newspaper reporter who witnesses a crossover-style event to a thug who discovers a hero's secret identity, this book takes the point-of-view of the average men and women in a world full of the extraordinary. We can connect with these narrating characters, identifying with their unique viewpoints on these virtual gods they share the world with.

Killgore
08-18-2005, 08:27 AM
Batman: The Long Halloween
Written by Jeph Loeb and Illustrated by Tim Sale

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BATMAN: THE LONG HALLOWEEN tells a tale, set as an unofficial sequel to Batman:Year One, of a serial killer at loose in Gotham City; a killer whose modus operandi has branded him Holiday. Beginning on Halloween, and once a month thereafter, on that month's most prominent holiday, he murders a member of Gotham City's most powerful crime family, the Falcones, leaving behind a cheap souvenir emblematic of that holiday as a kind of calling card.

The book is formatted as a murder mystery, with Batman, after all the World's Greatest Detective, attempting to discover the identity of the killer, while also dealing with the activities of his regular rogues gallery. Into this heady stew, Loeb throws in a very effective retelling of the origin of Two-Face.

Elijya
08-18-2005, 08:34 AM
good write-ups, Killgore :up:

Killgore
08-18-2005, 08:44 AM
Thanks. Got some down time at work. I didn't see Marvels at the bottom of page three, so I edited that post with Long Halloween.

Can you update the index on the front page? It helps me see what hasn't been reviewed.

BTW, if it wasn't for your hyping of Transmet here and at Philly, I may have missed what has become my second favorite series of all time, sunggly tieing for second after Watchmen and with Ultimates, V for Vendetta, Dark Knight Returns and Year One.

I just finished the latest TPB of 1oo Bullets, and where it has grown on me, it isn't amoung my favorites.

Sabretooth
08-18-2005, 09:02 AM
Batman: The Long Halloween
Written by Jeph Loeb and Illustrated by Tim Sale

http://hallofheroes.free.fr/Images/Covers/batman_long_halloween.jpg

BATMAN: THE LONG HALLOWEEN tells a tale, set as an unofficial sequel to Batman:Year One, of a serial killer at loose in Gotham City; a killer whose modus operandi has branded him Holiday. Beginning on Halloween, and once a month thereafter, on that month's most prominent holiday, he murders a member of Gotham City's most powerful crime family, the Falcones, leaving behind a cheap souvenir emblematic of that holiday as a kind of calling card.

The book is formatted as a murder mystery, with Batman, after all the World's Greatest Detective, attempting to discover the identity of the killer, while also dealing with the activities of his regular rogues gallery. Into this heady stew, Loeb throws in a very effective retelling of the origin of Two-Face.
First time I read this book, I hated it.Then I read it again and absolutely loved it.Even if your not a Batman fan,this book is a fun little mystery story :up:

Killgore
08-18-2005, 09:17 AM
Daredevil: Born Again
Written by Frank Miller and illustrated by Dan Mazzucchelli

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One time girlfriend of Matt Murdock goes to Hollywood with stars in her eyes and ends up with a needle in her veins. She becomes a porn star and a crackwhore who sells Daredevil's secret identity for a hit. The info gets passed up the chain of command all the way to the ears of Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin. And that's the friggin' first two pages. Instead of waging a head-on assault on Murdock, Kingpin tears down his arch enemy behind the scenes. He gets Matt disbarred, freezes his assets through an audit by the IRS, undermines his friendship with Foggy and finally makes a mistake blowing up his house. Matt is left living as a deranged homeless man in the gutter and after capitulating into grief and despair, fights his way back and is in essence BORN AGAIN. This came out right on the heels of Miller's own Dark Knight Returns and concurrently with Year One but is vastly ignored. Bendis has admitted that this has served as the template for his current run on Daredevil.

Elijya
08-18-2005, 09:19 AM
BTW, if it wasn't for your hyping of Transmet here and at Philly, I may have missed what has become my second favorite series of all time, sunggly tieing for second after Watchmen and with Ultimates, V for Vendetta, Dark Knight Returns and Year One.

I just finished the latest TPB of 1oo Bullets, and where it has grown on me, it isn't amoung my favorites.
no problem man, spread the word, spread the word

btw, my memory is completely skipping me, did we meet IRL?

Anubis
08-18-2005, 09:20 AM
First time I read this book, I hated it.Then I read it again and absolutely loved it.Even if your not a Batman fan,this book is a fun little mystery story :up:


I told you. Now you can check out Dark Victory.

Elijya
08-18-2005, 09:30 AM
index page updated