What other superheroes should make cameos in Smallville?

[griffolyon12]

I have often wondered what other superheroes should make cameo appearances in Smallville.Like what they did with Flash.What other heroes would you like to see make cameos in Smallville?
For me I'd like to see Batman and/or Bruce Wayne and I'd love to see Green Arrow and one of the Green Lanterns.

[triplet]

Batman won't make an appearance, they've already been down that road. That's how we got the ersatz Bruce Wayne, Adam Knight, in the third season.

[griffolyon12]

But what about other DC heroes?

[triplet]

I think one of the producers said that more DCU characters would make an appearance this year, but they didn't say who...

[Spider-Gamer]

I want The Question to be in an episode! :o

[smsvmos]

>Hal Jordan as a Rookie Pilot fallowing a Flying man (Clark)
>Diana as a U.N Representative that is goin to be under attack. Clark jumps on to help her since she is in Metropolis but she back hands him to the floor and difflects the bullets with her Bracelets. ( They dont have to meet)

[NHawk19]

Aquaman just cause no one else ever mentions him

[HULK LOVER]

Aquaman or The Flash

[AwesomeGuy]

Honestly? None, they usually slaughter the origins of the hero, I mean mxy was RUSSIAN! lol

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Oliver Queen (Green Arrow), Arthur Curry (Aquaman) through the Lori Lemaris story, Martian Manhunter and of course Bruce Wayne (never give up !)

[deathshead2]

The Question should be in it as some random crazy highschool paper reporter who thinks clark has powers but no one belives vic because he is crazy.

[Superfreak]

NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE

I'd only advocate a character if it made total sense for them to be there. And no one mentioned so far has any reason to be in Smallville, or on the show. I hated the Flash episode simply because it was totally random.

If there had to be one or two, one would be a villain,,, and it would be bizarro 'clark'. Why? because all the foundation is there in the plot already. ie. The Luthor's and there knowledge about the 'magic blood', the Cloning of Emily, the guy who got brought back to life by Lionel (with the kidney failure). All the ground work is already laid for a Bizarro character, an evil retarded Clark. It'd make a good arc. Two clark's walking around for one episode (double impact style), then in later episode(s) clone Clark begins to break down mentally and physically.

It'd make a great arc

The other would be GL, handled much like Superman TAS handled it. A fallen Lantern would crash in SV, and the ring would scoot around until it found a 'clark' like dork. Villain would show up to capture the ring, and Clark would help this new superhero find his sea legs, and together they'd take down the villain

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I liked both your ideas. Cool ones.

[Awesomer Guy]

To have bizarro luthor would need to know about superman though, which he doesnt..

I like the GL idea, if done STAS style

[Superfreak]

To have bizarro luthor would need to know about superman though, which he doesnt..

I like the GL idea, if done STAS style

not if lex got his hands on some more of the blood, cloned a specimen, and it escaped before Lex could examine it.

the idea is growing into something cool.

Lex on the hunt for the missing clone. Two clark's walking around, one with amnesia(the clone), one without(good clark). Then Bizarro Clark begins to break down, and becomes unrecognizable. Then Lex finds demented unrecognizable Clark etc.

[Wargod]

i always wanted Alan Scott to appear in Smallville, mostly because betwen the golden age heroes he is a legend, and maybe he could teach Clark the real meanning of being a hero.

[Bat Andy]

Aquaman, LOL!!!

A guy with aquatic powers of the sea in a land locked state with reservoirs or sediment filled rivers. I would love to see how they would pull that off.

However if Clark were to be on vacation say near the coast...

[smsvmos]

I see a better spot for Hal Jordan to be in SV than Aquaman since Aquaman would have to come out of the sea and in SV there are only lakes but then again the episode can take place in Metropolis . But Hal Jordan makes more sense and it would give us a cool action sceen.NOw ppl im not saying bring on the Green Lantern, what im saying is bring Hal Jordan before he becomes GL and make him a rookie pilot

[smsvmos]

I also suggested that another character from Superman's arc should also make a cameo. Hevy Weight Champion of the World Bibbo Bibowski. Lets have Clark have a day with his father in a PPV fight and make Bibbo trow a punch at Jonathan and Clark stops it :D

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Aquaman, LOL!!!

A guy with aquatic powers of the sea in a land locked state with reservoirs or sediment filled rivers. I would love to see how they would pull that off.

However if Clark were to be on vacation say near the coast...

That's why I said "Aquaman through the Lori Lemaris story" - which does NOT take place on Smallville. Ever read that one ? One of the best Superman stories. And the best thing is, the story takes place in the current timeline of SV, when Clark is in/going to collegue and it is a Clark Kent story. He doesn't wear the suit.

[TheStrider]

Ummm....It won't happen, but Jubilee, just cause, well, I wanted to say something different!

[Captain Britain]

another hero?
dunno,i think don't have a hero per se' but have say ray palmer (The Atom)be a scientist helping them out.but have him before he discovered the white dwarf physics..but have him say he is working on it.

also.

Have maybe wildcat...but again not as a hero,but wildcat be his ring fighter name and he gets into trouble and clark helps him?

[Zues4Life]

A young Bruce Wayne/Batman who Clark learns secretly fights crime at night as a masked vigilante.

[ETHERSPIN]

have clark in gotham for some reason and hear the legend of a green lantern/sentinel and clark could meet alan scott in some professional capacity first, then help him out when the city is under attack

[SlurpeeGuy]

They need to do the Legion of SuperHeroes. Have Brainiac come to Smallville in a plan to eliminate the last son of Krypton before his power's fully manifest, and the Legion comes back in time to save one of their founding members. Imagine that arc!

[TheStrider]

w00t, that would be fun!

[SlurpeeGuy]

Granted it's lifted from the STAS ep, but still, they could do it in Smallville.

[Superfreak]

Granted it's lifted from the STAS ep, but still, they could do it in Smallville.

yep, I mentioned that a couple of times about 3 years ago. It would be the an uber entertaining episode if they ever did it.

That being said, the staff writers of Smallville could learn a lot, and borrow a lot from Superman TAS. Because there are atleast 4 episodes of TAS that would be GOLD, if adapted to fit the smallville screen

[TheStrider]

Yes I agree completely.

[AgentPat]

Honestly? None, they usually slaughter the origins of the hero, I mean mxy was RUSSIAN! lolWould you have preferred a Fifth Dimension purple Leprechaun from the future?

Come on, peeps! SV is doing a pretty decent job of keeping things as "real" as possible while still acknowledging the comic book inspirations. By using names like "Kara" (Clark's "cousin" from California), "Krypto" ("You can name your next dog, Krypto) and Mxy (whose MO Chloe discovered by spelling his name backwards), the writers are giving comic book fans big time nods without making the story lines overly ridiculous for the general audience. It's a fine line, and one they're walking pretty well, IMHO.

[Serene]

Would you have preferred a Fifth Dimension purple Leprechaun from the future?

Come on, peeps! SV is doing a pretty decent job of keeping things as "real" as possible while still acknowledging the comic book inspirations. By using names like "Kara" (Clark's "cousin" from California), "Krypto" ("You can name your next dog, Krypto) and Mxy (whose MO Chloe discovered by spelling his name backwards), the writers are giving comic book fans big time nods without making the story lines overly ridiculous for the general audience. It's a fine line, and one they're walking pretty well, IMHO.

And still, it'll never be enough for some expectations. Meh. Don't watch then. I guess I'm beyond caring about it. I LOVE the show and that's enough. :)

[TheStrider]

Clark Kent meets the Thunder Cats, only not as Superman this time!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/KentStrider/supercats.bmp

[El Hombre-Araña]

I agree that the show should not turn into a "Superhero runway", but, afterall this is a show about Superman! While there have been references and nods to the DC Universe, I think they could have more tibdits per season.
I remember in the Pilot episode the newspaper Lionel was reading stated that the Queen CEO was missing... and it would have been a great opportunity at the beggining of season 3 to have Lex encounter Oliver Queen in a deserted island... yet, they preferred to have a new character stranded there with no consecuence, depth or relevance whatsoever.
I was surprised with the Flash episode, but I think, as many posts on this forum, that it wasn´t nailed quite right (it reminded me of the horrible Thor or Daredevil apperances back in the Incredible hulk Tv Shows).
I would like to see Oliver Queen and Hal Jordan, as regular "hard travelling heroes" (not in full attire) going through America, dropping by Smallville and helping Clark capture "a freak of the week". Also, it would be fun to have A-list actors as guest appreances playing the DC universe heroes (if not on films, at least here...) like Jennifer Connelly as Diana Prince.
Unfortunately, my best guess is that guest appreances are more regulated by copyright and property issues than Loeb's or screenwriters' creativity. True, all DC characters are handled through WB, but I guess they want to keep their properties separate in case they want to sell or lease a certain right.
Still, dreams never die...

El Hombre-Araña

[triplet]

Would you have preferred a Fifth Dimension purple Leprechaun from the future?

Come on, peeps! SV is doing a pretty decent job of keeping things as "real" as possible while still acknowledging the comic book inspirations. By using names like "Kara" (Clark's "cousin" from California), "Krypto" ("You can name your next dog, Krypto) and Mxy (whose MO Chloe discovered by spelling his name backwards), the writers are giving comic book fans big time nods without making the story lines overly ridiculous for the general audience. It's a fine line, and one they're walking pretty well, IMHO.

Great post!

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I loved Jinx, what fun that episode was. Possibly one of the best mythos moments in the series was in that one (Clark dressing for "battle" and then the speech he gives to Jonathan before the big game is priceless) and his running to save Chloe and then still win the game... I laughed out loud, that was so much fun.

Loved that episode! Who cares if Mxy wasn't an imp from an alternate plane of existance and didn't wear a purple suit and yellow bowler? I sure didn't...

I hope Trent Ford comes back, actually, in Season 5 with Mxy's powers intact. Maybe then we'll find out who else is on floor 33.1... ;)

[TheStrider]

Clark will own him, and Mxy won't even know it, just like last time :P

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Great post!

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I loved Jinx, what fun that episode was. Possibly one of the best mythos moments in the series was in that one (Clark dressing for "battle" and then the speech he gives to Jonathan before the big game is priceless) and his running to save Chloe and then still win the game... I laughed out loud, that was so much fun.

Loved that episode! Who cares if Mxy wasn't an imp from an alternate plane of existance and didn't wear a purple suit and yellow bowler? I sure didn't...

I hope Trent Ford comes back, actually, in Season 5 with Mxy's powers intact. Maybe then we'll find out who else is on floor 33.1... ;)

Yeah, I agree. I think they said he will be coming back on season 5 along with Bart.
In some stories, Myx travelled back in time to Smallville to show a young Clark things from his Kryptonian past etc. That would be an interesting thing for them to do. And if they can't show bits of Krypton, maybe Myx could show him his future, if you know what I mean... :supes:

[kamillon66]

what about...a real villian other then lex?

[Superfreak]

Great post!

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I loved Jinx, what fun that episode was. Possibly one of the best mythos moments in the series was in that one (Clark dressing for "battle" and then the speech he gives to Jonathan before the big game is priceless) and his running to save Chloe and then still win the game... I laughed out loud, that was so much fun.

Loved that episode! Who cares if Mxy wasn't an imp from an alternate plane of existance and didn't wear a purple suit and yellow bowler? I sure didn't...

I hope Trent Ford comes back, actually, in Season 5 with Mxy's powers intact. Maybe then we'll find out who else is on floor 33.1... ;)

I agree and disagree...

should he have been a 5th dimension being? HELL YES. Should he have been a lepracon (sp) NO!!!!!! They got the Myx character just right for the show, it was just the crummy background story they gave him. A magical being, who's family had been cursed. That's Bad. I don't like that. A little bit of creative writing to could have remedied that easily.

[TheStrider]

They got the Myx character just right for the show, it was just the crummy background story they gave him. A magical being, who's family had been cursed. That's Bad. I don't like that. A little bit of creative writing to could have remedied that easily.Agreed

[Timstuff]

They could have a retired Hal Jordan make a guest appearance. :P

[user123456789]

i can't get enough of flash!

[Spider-Gamer]

what about...a real villian other then lex?
I have to agree! :up:

[NHawk19]

Who knew the whole Aquaman thing would come true?

[Kirk Langstrom]

How about a guest appearance by a super hero who actually wears a super hero costume? Geez, I'm getting a little tired of Gough's "No Tights" policy...

[TheStrider]

I wouldn't mind seeing a costumed hero, maybe an inspiration to Clark? hehe

[NHawk19]

I seem to remember a comic with Bruce Wayne . . .maybe it was the Hush series, where he and a friend take a trip to Metropolis and see one of the Older Green Lantern's around (sorry not a big GL fan). Given Smallville's new found proximity to Metropolis that would be something interesting to explore.

[The Batman]

Batman(It'll never happen, but one can dream)
Wonder Woman(Besides Batman, another big name superhero)
J'onn J'onzz(Disguised as John Jones)
Hawkman(since Carter and Clark deal with artifacts)

[rigel7soldiers]

One character who's appeared in every episode... is Homoeroticism. Ooh, BURN!

[The Sage]

Here's my idea for a cameo based on Superboy.

It's an idea that I'm still thinking through, so expect more stuff and maybe changes made as time goes on.

This isn't really for one episode, more so a saga. Maybe the middle part of the season all the way up to towards the end type deal. Haven't divided it up into episodes.

BROTHER

- In a two week time span, several robberies are committed in Metropolis, with the thief being so fast that he's not able to be caught on video camera. Chloe, working at the Daily Planet, informs Clark about it, who automatically suspects Bart(Flash) from Season 4. However, that theory is dismissed when a recent robbery in Metropolis Museum showed that not only was the thief too fast for the camera, but he bent steel bars in order to get to whatever artifact he stole.

- We enter a giant lab labeled Project Cadmus. A group of scientists stand around, taking notes, all looking like they're waiting for someone to return. Out of nowhere, the thief appears. About 15 years old, with a very close resemblance to Clark Kent. His name is Conner.

- They mention his powers, faster than a speeding bullet, able to bend steel, near invulnerability, as well as the abiilty to leap at a great distance. Other senses include x-ray vision, which he can't control. Possibly other latent abilities. Body processes solar energy to produce superhuman abilities.

- Conner is very brash, hates hiding himself and wants to go public, as well as chase women. He eventually will become more sullen.

- The head director of Cadmus is Paul Westfield, who seems to show compassion towards Conner since he was partially responsible for his creation.

- Conner robs the Daily Planet, sent there to remove any incriminating evidence against Cadmus' experiments. He runs into Chloe, who he automatically falls in love with. In mid conversation, a security guard hits Conner from behind with a nightstick, which breaks against him. Conner knocks him out and escapes.

- The founder of Project Cadmus is revealed to be Lex Luthor, who instructs Conner to target the Kent farm and search for an octagonal object.

- Chloe informs Clark that the thief resembles him, and he exhibits most of Clark's powers. In response, CK goes to the FOS and questions if Jor-El has possessed another human being as he did with Kara. His birth father replies no, leaving that mystery unsolved.

- Conner sneaks into the Kent farm, looking for the key in the barn. Clark is in the house but catches the movement with his super-hearing. Running into the barn, the two meet each face to face, with Conner making a snide comment. A battle ensues, tearing the farm apart. Conner does some things that CK can't do, such as leaping high in the air and changing direction in mid-air. Clark blasts Conner with his heat vision, something Conner can't do. Conner finds the key but Clark wrestles him for it. They accidentally knock over the red metal drawers (I hope that's the right terminology), and the piece of kryptonite kept in the farm falls on to the ground. Both Clark and Conner fall, succumbing to the radiation. Clark notices this. The Kents come home, puts the green K back in its box. Clark gets his composure, but realizes Conner is gone, with the key.

- In Metropolis, Conner tries to romance Chloe, who's angry at his actions in Smallville. This leads to Conner and Clark meeting each other without fighting in Metropolis. Conner feels great to open up to someone who isn't wearing a lab coat. He reveals that he was created in Project Cadmus, and tells them that it's part of a LuthorCorp department. Clark emphasizes the importance of the key, which moves Conner to find a way to give it back to him.

- Lex goes to Cadmus for the key, which is in the hands of the scientists. A fire breaks out, the container holding the key is lost in the fire. Conner runs into the lab and saves everyone, but Lex wants the key. Conner hands him the container with a melted metal object. Lex is enraged. While talking to Lex, Conner has the genuine key in his backpocket.

- Conner returns the key to Clark and starts to leave when Clark offers to be his friend, telling him he doesn't have to be alone. At the same time, Clark is telling himself the same question, seeing that he has found a "brother", despite the suspicious origins which aren't revealed as of yet.

- Clark and Conner's interaction would be reminiscent of Bart and Clark, but Conner would talk more about exposing himself to people and cashing in on his powers, with CK doing his usual talk of selfish gain.

- Lex, upon meeting Conner, would be highly suspicious as Conner does resemble Clark.

More to come...when I feel like it. :) :O

[Red]

I
I remember in the Pilot episode the newspaper Lionel was reading stated that the Queen CEO was missing... and it would have been a great

This true?

[RakuMon]

That's really cool Sage!
The whole Lex unknowingly cloning Clark (I assume it's a result of the blood samples Lex probably still has somewhere) is a great idea and could even segue into a BIZARRO episode!!

[Red]

I
I remember in the Pilot episode the newspaper Lionel was reading stated that the Queen CEO was missing... and it would have been a great

This true?

[avidreader]

Great storyline Sage. :up:

[The Sage]

That's really cool Sage!
The whole Lex unknowingly cloning Clark (I assume it's a result of the blood samples Lex probably still has somewhere) is a great idea and could even segue into a BIZARRO episode!!

Hey don't give it away!! ;):D

[The Sage]

Alright RakuMon, I've got the idea for the second part of the Brother saga. I'll write it up when I have time. I'm sure you'll like it.

[Brainiac 8]

Deffinatly interesting ideas Sage. I swear that they should hire us to write some of the episodes. I think at least we would create less plot holes, and I would love the paycheck.:p

[The Sage]

Thanks guys. Also, I'm thinking in the second part, Conner wers blue jeans, a red long sleeve shirt with a black t-shirt. I'm sure Kon-El and Teen Titan fans would get the hint. ;)

[Tim Drake]

Here's my idea for a cameo based on Superboy.

It's an idea that I'm still thinking through, so expect more stuff and maybe changes made as time goes on.

This isn't really for one episode, more so a saga. Maybe the middle part of the season all the way up to towards the end type deal. Haven't divided it up into episodes.

BROTHER

- In a two week time span, several robberies are committed in Metropolis, with the thief being so fast that he's not able to be caught on video camera. Chloe, working at the Daily Planet, informs Clark about it, who automatically suspects Bart(Flash) from Season 4. However, that theory is dismissed when a recent robbery in Metropolis Museum showed that not only was the thief too fast for the camera, but he bent steel bars in order to get to whatever artifact he stole.

- We enter a giant lab labeled Project Cadmus. A group of scientists stand around, taking notes, all looking like they're waiting for someone to return. Out of nowhere, the thief appears. About 15 years old, with a very close resemblance to Clark Kent. His name is Conner.

- They mention his powers, faster than a speeding bullet, able to bend steel, near invulnerability, as well as the abiilty to leap at a great distance. Other senses include x-ray vision, which he can't control. Possibly other latent abilities. Body processes solar energy to produce superhuman abilities.

- Conner is very brash, hates hiding himself and wants to go public, as well as chase women. He eventually will become more sullen.

- The head director of Cadmus is Paul Westfield, who seems to show compassion towards Conner since he was partially responsible for his creation.

- Conner robs the Daily Planet, sent there to remove any incriminating evidence against Cadmus' experiments. He runs into Chloe, who he automatically falls in love with. In mid conversation, a security guard hits Conner from behind with a nightstick, which breaks against him. Conner knocks him out and escapes.

- The founder of Project Cadmus is revealed to be Lex Luthor, who instructs Conner to target the Kent farm and search for an octagonal object.

- Chloe informs Clark that the thief resembles him, and he exhibits most of Clark's powers. In response, CK goes to the FOS and questions if Jor-El has possessed another human being as he did with Kara. His birth father replies no, leaving that mystery unsolved.

- Conner sneaks into the Kent farm, looking for the key in the barn. Clark is in the house but catches the movement with his super-hearing. Running into the barn, the two meet each face to face, with Conner making a snide comment. A battle ensues, tearing the farm apart. Conner does some things that CK can't do, such as leaping high in the air and changing direction in mid-air. Clark blasts Conner with his heat vision, something Conner can't do. Conner finds the key but Clark wrestles him for it. They accidentally knock over the red metal drawers (I hope that's the right terminology), and the piece of kryptonite kept in the farm falls on to the ground. Both Clark and Conner fall, succumbing to the radiation. Clark notices this. The Kents come home, puts the green K back in its box. Clark gets his composure, but realizes Conner is gone, with the key.

- In Metropolis, Conner tries to romance Chloe, who's angry at his actions in Smallville. This leads to Conner and Clark meeting each other without fighting in Metropolis. Conner feels great to open up to someone who isn't wearing a lab coat. He reveals that he was created in Project Cadmus, and tells them that it's part of a LuthorCorp department. Clark emphasizes the importance of the key, which moves Conner to find a way to give it back to him.

- Lex goes to Cadmus for the key, which is in the hands of the scientists. A fire breaks out, the container holding the key is lost in the fire. Conner runs into the lab and saves everyone, but Lex wants the key. Conner hands him the container with a melted metal object. Lex is enraged. While talking to Lex, Conner has the genuine key in his backpocket.

- Conner returns the key to Clark and starts to leave when Clark offers to be his friend, telling him he doesn't have to be alone. At the same time, Clark is telling himself the same question, seeing that he has found a "brother", despite the suspicious origins which aren't revealed as of yet.

- Clark and Conner's interaction would be reminiscent of Bart and Clark, but Conner would talk more about exposing himself to people and cashing in on his powers, with CK doing his usual talk of selfish gain.

- Lex, upon meeting Conner, would be highly suspicious as Conner does resemble Clark.

More to come...when I feel like it. :) :O

Okay, to be honest. It doesnt seem like such a good idea. No offence.

First, having Cadmus established this early and having Clark's Kryptonian DNA before he becomes Superman is pretty weak.

Having a Clark clone named 'Conner' (even though it tends to be spelled Connor) appear this early on kind of precludes the possibility of the existence of Connor in the future (during the Death of Superman saga to his role in the Titans).

A major part of Connor's character is the fact that he is half Kal-el's DNA and half Lex Luthors. Humans were never able to develop a full clone of a Kryptonian, it was impossible...they needed a human base sequence. Connor, in turn, is a conflicted and deep character struggling between good and evil while wondering if he is a clone of Superman or Lex Luthor....

How would Cadmus (if it was founded by Lex like you suggest here) have Clark Kent's DNA when Lex doesnt even know about Clark's abiltiies. Wouldnt the creation of the clone with powers (assuming Lex is giving it orders like you suggest) prove that Clark Kent's DNA is indeed alien....proof to Lex. Thats just not right...

[Tim Drake]

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[RakuMon]

Okay, to be honest. It doesnt seem like such a good idea. No offence.

First, having Cadmus established this early and having Clark's Kryptonian DNA before he becomes Superman is pretty weak.

Having a Clark clone named 'Conner' (even though it tends to be spelled Connor) appear this early on kind of precludes the possibility of the existence of Connor in the future (during the Death of Superman saga to his role in the Titans).

One thing Smallville excels at is the ability to adapt characters in the comics to their continuity and logic. I doubt the whole "Death & Return" of Superman is actually in this Clark Kent's future, so that's a moot point. As far as Cadmus, that was established as part of Smallville lore way back in Season One. I believe Victoria's family sold it to LexCorp or something like that.

A major part of Connor's character is the fact that he is half Kal-el's DNA and half Lex Luthors. Humans were never able to develop a full clone of a Kryptonian, it was impossible...they needed a human base sequence. Connor, in turn, is a conflicted and deep character struggling between good and evil while wondering if he is a clone of Superman or Lex Luthor....
That's a good point. I think one possibility is that Connor is the latest (and therefore most successful) experiment. The previous failed experiments all resulted in Bizarros clones, but when Lex decides to offer his DNA, Connor is born. An even better scenario might be that Lex decides to mix the alien DNA with Lionel's blood!

How would Cadmus (if it was founded by Lex like you suggest here) have Clark Kent's DNA when Lex doesnt even know about Clark's abiltiies. Wouldnt the creation of the clone with powers (assuming Lex is giving it orders like you suggest) prove that Clark Kent's DNA is indeed alien....proof to Lex. Thats just not right...
I think the best explanation is that Lex uses the sample of Clark's blood that I bet he still possesses. And he doesn't know it's Clark's blood, but he does know of its alien properties. After all, I bet Lionel has files at LuthorCorp somewhere. And I think the fact that the resulting Clone bearing a resemblance to a younger Clark Kent will be another nice touch since it gives Lex more insight into who Clark really is.

I think Sage's idea could be a really cool season-long story arc on the show!

[avidreader]

I think the best explanation is that Lex uses the sample of Clark's blood that I bet he still possesses. And he doesn't know it's Clark's blood, but he does know of its alien properties. After all, I bet Lionel has files at LuthorCorp somewhere. And I think the fact that the resulting Clone bearing a resemblance to a younger Clark Kent will be another nice touch since it gives Lex more insight into who Clark really is.



That would be absolutely awesome! :up: :cool:

[Brainiac 8]

Tim, personally I love when they bring in characters from elsewhere. Especially when you remember that this is it's own continuity, they can bring in anyone with their own spin on things. Having Connor show up I think would be great. If they did do a season long arc involving the cloning of Clark, then it would lead to some interesting episodes.

They could introduce Bizarro that way, not including Connor. Re-introducing Cadmus would lead to some neat stuff also. I think they could use the Cadmus story to introduce Gangbuster too, which I would love. He doesn't show up enough in the comics as it is.:up: :cool:

[Tim Drake]

Well I just dont like when they take stuff out of the comics, out of context, totally change everything around about it and fit it into Smallville where it shouldnt be.

I think the DCAU cartoons tend to do a better job of presenting an original product with new stories but is still strongly rooted and based upon the storylines of the comics.

Bringing in Teen Titan characters a decade before Clark even becomes Superman is just strange. I could deal with Smallville being a total reinvent of Superman (alternate earth, Elseworlds..whatever) but still I'd prefer more basis on the source material as opposed to drastic reinvention.

I think I would have had more respect for the show if it could maintain that basis because without it, anything could happen, anythings possible...Darkseid, Doomsday and yes even Connor Kent could show up in future episodes. Superboy showing up long before Clark himself becomes Superman...it just doesnt work for me.

[Tim Drake]

One thing Smallville excels at is the ability to adapt characters in the comics to their continuity and logic. I doubt the whole "Death & Return" of Superman is actually in this Clark Kent's future, so that's a moot point. As far as Cadmus, that was established as part of Smallville lore way back in Season One. I believe Victoria's family sold it to LexCorp or something like that.


Whos Victoria? I never payed that close attention to the majority of storylines in season one as they werent even that important in the overall picture, some of them led nowhere too. I'd like to know what Cadmus was doing being established this early in the game anyways.

That Death/Return saga is such a huge event in the life of the modern Superman. Unfortunately we'll never know for sure if its in Smallville Clark's future. I guess it wont be, since they already explored his 'death' and 'ressurection' in season 5.

[triplet]

In Leech, Victoria Hardwick an old flame of Lex's (first introduced in Rogue, I believe) was fooled into getting her father to buy Cadmus which ultimately ruins him.

Here in the wikipedia entry on Cadmus in Smallville:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cadmus

The television series Smallville referenced a company called "Cadmus Labs," which Lex Luthor bought. This Cadmus, however, was just being used by Luthor as part of a larger plan; after it was taken from him in a hostile takeover by a woman pretending to love him and her father, it turned out that the project was a feint. The company was in major financial and legal trouble, and so the "lover" and her father were financially crippled.

In doing a search for this online, I also found an old Smallville Ledger article on the events:

http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/smallville/ledger/article.jsp?id=sv_vol64_iss04_1

[AllThingsComic]

How about Apache Chief? lol

[The Incredible Hulk]

ENUK TUK!!!! :D

It would be hilarious if they did an episode called "Token" where they brought in all of those racially stereotypical characters from the Superfriends:

Apache Chief
Samurai
Black Lightning
Eldorado

[The Sage]

Okay, to be honest. It doesnt seem like such a good idea. No offence.


WHY!!


First, having Cadmus established this early and having Clark's Kryptonian DNA before he becomes Superman is pretty weak.


I haven't even finished the story up, and how is it weak? Think about it, they're experimenting with Kryptonian DNA at this stage. By the time we approach the Death of Superman saga, they'll have perfected it, which would lead into the real Superboy's creation.


Having a Clark clone named 'Conner' (even though it tends to be spelled Connor) appear this early on kind of precludes the possibility of the existence of Connor in the future (during the Death of Superman saga to his role in the Titans).


No it doesn't. In the comics, Connor is the name given to Superboy by either Superman or the Kents when he decides to live a civilian identity as CK's cousin. If you were to use my idea, Clark could name Superboy Connor in honor of his first teenage clone.


A major part of Connor's character is the fact that he is half Kal-el's DNA and half Lex Luthors. Humans were never able to develop a full clone of a Kryptonian, it was impossible...they needed a human base sequence. Connor, in turn, is a conflicted and deep character struggling between good and evil while wondering if he is a clone of Superman or Lex Luthor....


Well here's the thing...I wouldn't go in that direction. This Connor isn't a mix of Supes and Lex. He is partially human, but he's the first prototype. They're experimenting at this stage. And it will show.


How would Cadmus (if it was founded by Lex like you suggest here) have Clark Kent's DNA when Lex doesnt even know about Clark's abiltiies. Wouldnt the creation of the clone with powers (assuming Lex is giving it orders like you suggest) prove that Clark Kent's DNA is indeed alien....proof to Lex. Thats just not right...

Simple, Lex doesn't know it's CK's DNA. I'll explain it in the second part. It's something leftover from when his father ran LuthorCorp.

Geez, gonna make me give spoilers. :p

[The Sage]

I think the best explanation is that Lex uses the sample of Clark's blood that I bet he still possesses. And he doesn't know it's Clark's blood, but he does know of its alien properties. After all, I bet Lionel has files at LuthorCorp somewhere. And I think the fact that the resulting Clone bearing a resemblance to a younger Clark Kent will be another nice touch since it gives Lex more insight into who Clark really is.

I think Sage's idea could be a really cool season-long story arc on the show!

Thanks. I was thinking that it wouldn't be Lex's DNA, but rather...Westfield's. I figured that was who it was in the comics until last year when they revealed it was Lex. I figure this way it could be a separation between this Connor and the Superboy of the comics.

[AgentPat]

Well I just don't like when they take stuff out of the comics, out of context, totally change everything around about it and fit it into Smallville where it shouldn't be.Meh. Such re-invention is done all the time. It's what helps to keep the stories fresh. There's also many fans of the show who have no clue about Teen Titans, Darkseid, Doomsday, Connor Kent, and even Brainiac.

When SV was first tested for audiences, there were people that had no CLUE what Kryptonite was, or why it affected Clark. That's why they had to show the green vein effect - so that people would know there was something physical happening - and that it HURT! The producers took something from the mythos and adapted it to SV. Clark's blood boils in the presence of K. (ouch!) And the freakin' stuff is everywhere, not just in Addis Ababa. :p

Honestly, I don't mind the changes SV has made. There's a reason for most everything they do, and generally an explanation to accompany the artistic license. If I wanted SV to follow everything explicitly from the comic books, I'd just read the comic books, y'know? As long as the core of the story is still the same though, I'm good.

[AllThingsComic]

n/m

[AllThingsComic]

What I have to say about introducing characters that aren't meant to be yet named is, do it! We don't know how much longer we have to enjoy the show which we all love! Let's get as many as we can before it's to late. What if they happen to have a great story line for Connor, but are thinking the same as Tim, then boom show's over and we never got to enjoy that story plot. Let's enjoy as much as we can in the time we have.

[avidreader]

What I have to say about introducing characters that aren't meant to be yet named is, do it! We don't know how much longer we have to enjoy the show which we all love! Let's get as many as we can before it's to late. What if they happen to have a great story line for Connor, but are thinking the same as Tim, then boom show's over and we never got to enjoy that story plot. Let's enjoy as much as we can in the time we have.

I agree ATC :up: Go with what you get and enjoy it for what it is.

[King Ruler]

Seriously, I'd like to see Lobo make an appearance. I know it would seem odd, but maybe it could be done this way:

We all know Lobo is just the badass of them all, who even got kicked out of both Heaven AND Hell, and he always returns, usually reincarnated into a squirrel or a lady or something. Well if you ask me, it'd be nice to have a new character introduced, whose name is Robert "Bo" Wolfe, or something like that, and he is seen as a nuisance to Clark, and an all around bad boy.
Eventually, he will be killed or something (by a villain or whatever), and all his blood that is spilled arises and morphs into the Main Man himself.

Not the BEST idea, but if you ask me, it could work. Or maybe make him Slobo instead of Lobo, I dunno...

I'd like to see Martian Manhunter appear as well. He could've escaped from a government containment center and is taking the alias of a cop named John Jones. Using his telepathic link or whatever, he manages to track down another alien being aka Clark. And you all can continue from there.

[Tim Drake]

Meh. Such re-invention is done all the time. It's what helps to keep the stories fresh. There's also many fans of the show who have no clue about Teen Titans, Darkseid, Doomsday, Connor Kent, and even Brainiac.

When SV was first tested for audiences, there were people that had no CLUE what Kryptonite was, or why it affected Clark. That's why they had to show the green vein effect - so that people would know there was something physical happening - and that it HURT! The producers took something from the mythos and adapted it to SV. Clark's blood boils in the presence of K. (ouch!) And the freakin' stuff is everywhere, not just in Addis Ababa. :p


Double Meh.

The majority of kids had no idea about the complexities and facets of the DCU but when developing the DCAU cartoons; Batman TAS, Superman TAS, JLU etc.. they did it in a manner that was still true (and close) to the comic storylines and yet made it easy for kids to comprehend what was going on.

Smallville is just mainly Millar's own artistic view for Superman and how he would have handled it. All I'm saying its my own personal preference is for a series closer to the source material like the animated series. The DCAU proves that such a series would work just as well with audiences that have no clue about the details of the DCU.

[Tim Drake]

No it doesn't. In the comics, Connor is the name given to Superboy by either Superman or the Kents when he decides to live a civilian identity as CK's cousin. If you were to use my idea, Clark could name Superboy Connor in honor of his first teenage clone.


Thats repetitive though, and kind of silly when you think about it.

I think logically, (if you feel compelled to do the clone story this early on) you should use Bizzaro first. He's far less perfected than any type of Conner-like clone and pretty rough around the edges. Hes pretty much an experiment gone wrong.

Personally I wouldnt use either at this point in time, Clarks only 18. This stuff can wait till hes Superman. It doesnt do much, writing-wise, to show a teenage clone of Clark Kent, when Clark himself is still a conflicted teen. At least with Superman, the differences between him and Conner are pretty big.

[The Sage]

Thats repetitive though, and kind of silly when you think about it.

I think logically, (if you feel compelled to do the clone story this early on) you should use Bizzaro first. He's far less perfected than any type of Conner-like clone and pretty rough around the edges. Hes pretty much an experiment gone wrong.

Personally I wouldnt use either at this point in time, Clarks only 18. This stuff can wait till hes Superman. It doesnt do much, writing-wise, to show a teenage clone of Clark Kent, when Clark himself is still a conflicted teen. At least with Superman, the differences between him and Conner are pretty big.

Connor can be 13 to 14, Clark can be what he is now...19. At this point, Clark isn't a conflicted teen, he's a young adult trying to hold on to his current life instead of moving forward with his destiny. Connor can be someone who's discovering that he's a clone of someone else, he doesn't have a childhood, and he feels that he's not real. For goodness sakes, this is good stuff! Their interactions would be the sweetest.

In any case, you could easily do Connor and Bizarro at the same time.

[Tim Drake]

At the same time? thats just overkill. How would you explain them having one primative clone like Bizzaro and then one perfect clone like Connor?

This whole thing your proposing reminds me of a Star Trek episode named "Similitude"...an episode that raised the moral question about clone rights and even the deeper question over whether a clone was a real being with a soul, or simply a copy.

I guess your idea could work for one episode IF handled properly and not written as a complete departure from the comics...but it should only be for a one-episode standalone....not an entire arc devoted to this.

[AgentPat]

Double Meh.

The majority of kids had no idea about the complexities and facets of the DCU but when developing the DCAU cartoons; Batman TAS, Superman TAS, JLU etc.. they did it in a manner that was still true (and close) to the comic storylines and yet made it easy for kids to comprehend what was going on.

Smallville is just mainly Millar's own artistic view for Superman and how he would have handled it. All I'm saying its my own personal preference is for a series closer to the source material like the animated series. The DCAU proves that such a series would work just as well with audiences that have no clue about the details of the DCU.Well, whatever floats your boat man. The cartoons are still there for your enjoyment. SV's just another TV show. It's entertainment. It happens to be a different take on Superman. Some people like it. Some people loathe it. And some people are just indifferent to it. As a fan of the character and the comics, you can enjoy it for what it is, or you can piss and moan about it. It's not going to matter in the long run though because it's still gonna be what it is: a different take on Superman.

Call me crazy, but that's one of the things I love about the show. It's different. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

I swear, comic fans are their own worst enemies. :(

[King Ruler]

Another idea, it'd be interesting if the Question (as Vic) made an appearance as a tabloid reporter, searching for stories in Smallville, home of all sorts of odd happenings. There he runs in to Clark and cop John Jones (J'onn J'onnz), and after the whole episode or whatever, John and Vic leave Smallville together, becoming some sort of duo (which could open the door to a spin-off starring "The Question" and "The Martian Manhunter" in an X-Files-esque/"Supernatural" show or something.

Who WOULDN'T want to see that? A spin-off starring a paranoid tabloid reporter who is a conspiracy nut, along with an alien disguised as a cop as his partner? :)

[Tim Drake]

Well, whatever floats your boat man. The cartoons are still there for your enjoyment. SV's just another TV show. It's entertainment. It happens to be a different take on Superman. Some people like it. Some people loathe it. And some people are just indifferent to it. As a fan of the character and the comics, you can enjoy it for what it is, or you can piss and moan about it. It's not going to matter in the long run though because it's still gonna be what it is: a different take on Superman.

Call me crazy, but that's one of the things I love about the show. It's different. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

I swear, comic fans are their own worst enemies. :(

Not at all. The same can be said about Schumaccer's Batman movies. They were "different"...very...but it doesnt neccessarily make them good or mean I have to like them.

My person preference is the comics and the source material, thats why I prefered "Batman Begins" which was alot closer to the real stuff than the previous movies.

At this point Im kind of indifferent to Smallville. Its pretty inconsistant with its episodes; meaning there are good ones and bad ones that vary from week to week. The concept itself has potential but I would have enjoyed it more if it did better service to the comics (which to me is the core and root of the Superman mythos).

That being said, this entire rant was just to point out my dislike with the idea of using Connor this early on. Since they arent really doing it, no point to continue this. Hopefully theyll be smart enough not to do it in the long-run.

[Serene]

I think your storyline idea rocks, Sage. :up:

[Tim Drake]

Another idea, it'd be interesting if the Question (as Vic) made an appearance as a tabloid reporter, searching for stories in Smallville, home of all sorts of odd happenings. There he runs in to Clark and cop John Jones (J'onn J'onnz), and after the whole episode or whatever, John and Vic leave Smallville together, becoming some sort of duo (which could open the door to a spin-off starring "The Question" and "The Martian Manhunter" in an X-Files-esque/"Supernatural" show or something.

Who WOULDN'T want to see that? A spin-off starring a paranoid tabloid reporter who is a conspiracy nut, along with an alien disguised as a cop as his partner? :)

I once considered the idea of Vic Sage being a paranoid conspiricy theorist at Clark's university who got kicked out for his insane theories....

But "The Question" is a character more closely related to the Batman family. I'd prefer not to use him in this series.

And its way too early to justify bringing in Martian Manhunter! You'd have to totally rework and reinvent that character to make him fit at this point in time, and that would ruin him.

[AgentPat]

Not at all. The same can be said about Schumaccer's Batman movies. They were "different"...very...but it doesnt neccessarily make them good or mean I have to like them.Quite true. But do you complain about Schumacher and his Batman films in the Batman forums too?

At this point Im kind of indifferent to Smallville.See, this is what I don't understand. I've logged about 30 posts in the SR forums over the last two months compared to about 500 in the SV forums in the same period of time. That's being indifferent.

In your 9 days on the Hype, you've posted over 80 messages in the SV forums with the remaining 30 or so being posted in all other forums (including comics) combined. I dunno. I wouldn't call that being indifferent to the show.

Just making an observation, that's all. :confused:

[triplet]

It's a love-hate relationship, clearly...

:rolleyes:

[Brainiac 8]

Quite true. But do you complain about Schumacher and his Batman films in the Batman forums too?

You know what I complain about.....Bat Nipples! I mean...EWWWWW!!!:mad: :(

[Kaboom]

i now its been said, but i think a green arrow episode would be great....a non powered guy teaching clark that its not powers that make someone a hero but the willingness to do the right thing.....

i'd also get excited to see john henry irons
maybe a hawgirl.

[Tim Drake]

Quite true. But do you complain about Schumacher and his Batman films in the Batman forums too?

See, this is what I don't understand. I've logged about 30 posts in the SR forums over the last two months compared to about 500 in the SV forums in the same period of time. That's being indifferent.

In your 9 days on the Hype, you've posted over 80 messages in the SV forums with the remaining 30 or so being posted in all other forums (including comics) combined. I dunno. I wouldn't call that being indifferent to the show.

Just making an observation, that's all. :confused:

Well look at the context of my 'complaint' it only pertains to the hypothetical scenario of using 'Connor' on Smallville...which is likely never to happen. I was just stating my reasons against such a move.

I do my Smallville posting on SHH (since I think this is the most decent Smallville board...which is a rare thing)..

and my Superman posting on Bluetights...

[Tim Drake]

i now its been said, but i think a green arrow episode would be great....a non powered guy teaching clark that its not powers that make someone a hero but the willingness to do the right thing.....

i'd also get excited to see john henry irons
maybe a hawgirl.

Hawkgirl? If anything it should be bloody Hawkman...Carter effin Hall.

Hes the man, Hawkgirl is just his accessory (like Supergirl to Superman).

All that said, I doubt his rights would be tied up so Millar and Gough... you should use Carter Hall and Oliver Queen next season!

[Kaboom]

ok, i jut thought of this.......what if a dying gl comes to earth to give clark his power ring (kal-el is suposed to be the green lantern of krypton) but lex intervenes and uses it to his advantage. lex would lose the ring only to have it found by clark or a returning gl who then gives it to a young test pilot. so hal jordan ends up with kal's ring....now that could be a cool episode!

[Tim Drake]

You know what I complain about.....Bat Nipples! I mean...EWWWWW!!!:mad: :(

Thats the tip of the iceberg my friend....

[Tim Drake]

ok, i jut thought of this.......what if a dying gl comes to earth to give clark his power ring (kal-el is suposed to be the green lantern of krypton) but lex intervenes and uses it to his advantage. lex would lose the ring only to have it found by clark or a returning gl who then gives it to a young test pilot. so hal jordan ends up with kal's ring....now that could be a cool episode!

LoL no...that pretty much sh&ts on Hal Jordons epic origin story...

Plus would you really want the Green Lantern making his public debut as the hero of Coast City 10 years before Superman appears in Metropolis?

It kinda takes away from the greatness of Superman.

Luckily Im confident the rights to GL will be sold (for a movie) before season 6 begins.

[Kaboom]

LoL no...that pretty much sh&ts on Hal Jordons epic origin story...

Plus would you really want the Green Lantern making his public debut as the hero of Coast City 10 years before Superman appears in Metropolis?

It kinda takes away from the greatness of Superman.

Luckily Im confident the rights to GL will be sold (for a movie) before season 6 begins.

come on this is smallville, they do everything out of time anyway...its an elseworld story. besides, at the end of the series the antimonitor is just gonna wipe it ou of existence anyway . =)

and whos to say hal jordan couldnt delay in putting on a costume just like clark has....he could still show up after supes. i mean seriously we already have an impulse withut having had a flash......

[Tim Drake]

come on this is smallville, they do everything out of time anyway...its an elseworld story. besides, at the end of the series the antimonitor is just gonna wipe it ou of existence anyway . =)

and whos to say hal jordan couldnt delay in putting on a costume just like clark has....he could still show up after supes. i mean seriously we already have an impulse withut having had a flash......

Why would Hal Jordan delay? I dont see a problem with young Hal appearing as a young fighter pilot on earth in General Sam Lane's group....but becoming the GL?

What they could do is have Sinestro appear on Earth as the GL in the episode. Do alot of foreshadowing of him eventually going evil and Hal becoming a GL, but Hal never actually encounters him face to face or becomes the GL at this point...

They could even bring Abin Sur in as an active GL whos temporarily on Earth whos watching Jordon and observes Hal's heroic behavior. Perhaps the writers could rework it so Sur's crash a few years later in Coast City was no random accident, he was looking for Hal.....make it so Hal was chosen long before he assumed the power.

Its a new twist but its similar to Jorel on Earth in Smallville chosing the Kent family.

[The Sage]

Double Meh.

The majority of kids had no idea about the complexities and facets of the DCU but when developing the DCAU cartoons; Batman TAS, Superman TAS, JLU etc.. they did it in a manner that was still true (and close) to the comic storylines and yet made it easy for kids to comprehend what was going on.

Smallville is just mainly Millar's own artistic view for Superman and how he would have handled it. All I'm saying its my own personal preference is for a series closer to the source material like the animated series. The DCAU proves that such a series would work just as well with audiences that have no clue about the details of the DCU.

I'm sorry but you're comparing an animated series with a live-action show. Of course the series can be more faithful, it's animated, a cartoon. You can literally almost take a comicbook story and translate it to animation easily. In most cases it's not the same with live action shows.

[The Sage]

Well, whatever floats your boat man. The cartoons are still there for your enjoyment. SV's just another TV show. It's entertainment. It happens to be a different take on Superman. Some people like it. Some people loathe it. And some people are just indifferent to it. As a fan of the character and the comics, you can enjoy it for what it is, or you can piss and moan about it. It's not going to matter in the long run though because it's still gonna be what it is: a different take on Superman.

Call me crazy, but that's one of the things I love about the show. It's different. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

I swear, comic fans are their own worst enemies. :(

Yes they are. Welcome to my world. :up:

It's reasons like this that when you doing a tv show or a movie, you need a director or producer with enough respect for the mythos to be faithful yet also take it with their own vision. Otherwise all you'll get is Sin City type stories, and personally I wasn't fond of Sin City the movie. Way too comicbooky. Would work as an animated movie much better.

[The Sage]

At the same time? thats just overkill. How would you explain them having one primative clone like Bizzaro and then one perfect clone like Connor?


I have that figured out already. ;)



This whole thing your proposing reminds me of a Star Trek episode named "Similitude"...an episode that raised the moral question about clone rights and even the deeper question over whether a clone was a real being with a soul, or simply a copy.

I guess your idea could work for one episode IF handled properly and not written as a complete departure from the comics...but it should only be for a one-episode standalone....not an entire arc devoted to this.

I can't see how the story would work for just one episode. Conner, Bizarro, Clark's blood, Lex, Cadmus. Three to five episodes at least.

[The Sage]

How about a cameo appearance with the Legion of Super-Heroes, just some of them going into the past? That's actually one of the TAS episodes that could workout excellently and be stretched for 3 episodes.

[Tim Drake]

How about a cameo appearance with the Legion of Super-Heroes, just some of them going into the past? That's actually one of the TAS episodes that could workout excellently and be stretched for 3 episodes.

Except that was a one episode thing and ended with the Legion deleting everyones memories to preserve time.

That would have been a great one episode story in season 1 but not now.

[The Sage]

Except that was a one episode thing and ended with the Legion deleting everyones memories to preserve time.

That would have been a great one episode story in season 1 but not now.

Why not? Clark still doesn't know what his destiny is. And although he's faced Brainiac, he hasn't fought a supercharged Brainiac with the intent to kill him. Plus you can hint and tease at a lot, especially with Lois in Smallville.

[Tim Drake]

I'm sorry but you're comparing an animated series with a live-action show. Of course the series can be more faithful, it's animated, a cartoon. You can literally almost take a comicbook story and translate it to animation easily. In most cases it's not the same with live action shows.

Not true. There isnt too much information about young Clark Kent in smallville in the comics so its pretty easy to write your own stuff that works with the show....

However...when that stuff tends to contradict future Superman events established by them...thats problematic.

It wasnt an impossible task to accomplish.

[The Sage]

Not true. There isnt too much information about young Clark Kent in smallville in the comics so its pretty easy to write your own stuff that works with the show....

However...when that stuff tends to contradict future Superman events established by them...thats problematic.

It wasnt an impossible task to accomplish.

Does Ra's Al Ghul training Bruce Wayne jeopardize any chance of a romance with Talia in the future? I don't think so. Clark having a teenage clone of himself? I don't think so, particularly if the clone is temporary and won't be around forever.

[triplet]

:rolleyes:

It never stops...

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

[The Sage]

:rolleyes:

It never stops...

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

LOL I missed that picture. :D

[Tim Drake]

Why not? Clark still doesn't know what his destiny is. And although he's faced Brainiac, he hasn't fought a supercharged Brainiac with the intent to kill him. Plus you can hint and tease at a lot, especially with Lois in Smallville.

lol The fanwank needs to end. I think that would have made a great story as the season one cliffhanger. Brainiac from the future infecting the past like the computer in T3, trying to kill Clark Kent....

I would have written it as the Legion was under orders not to interfere with events in the past...however, the lesson they learn is to trust instincts over orders. The story takes place the day Jonathan Kent was meant to die from a heart attack. Even though the Legion vowed not to save him while they were there (to stop Brainiac) after getting to know the Kents, they decided to disobey orders and save him...altering history so Jonathan Kent never dies.

In the end, everyone in Smallville's memories are erased of Brainiac and the Legion (thanks to Saturn Girl)...and Jonathan Kent's mysterious recovery is an unexplained miracle....even though Clark's instincts tells him that more happened than he could remember.

[Kaboom]

why is it everyone says johnathen kent has to die? he only dies on one version of he superman mythos (not coutning the movie). in most he survives all the way through.........gah!

[Tim Drake]

Does Ra's Al Ghul training Bruce Wayne jeopardize any chance of a romance with Talia in the future? I don't think so. Clark having a teenage clone of himself? I don't think so, particularly if the clone is temporary and won't be around forever.

Why would that even jeopardize any chance of romance? Obvously something could still happen and end when Bruce realizes who her father is.

However, Im hoping thats avoided since Batman doesnt need romances.

The teenage clone is just a silly idea. What it does is, it makes Cadmus cloning the real Kon-El in the future into a repetitive storyline....

Its better not to bring stuff that isnt even supposed to happen yet into the present fold. Id rather this show try to be more of a prequel than "Ultimate Superman."

[Tim Drake]

why is it everyone says johnathen kent has to die? he only dies on one version of he superman mythos (not coutning the movie). in most he survives all the way through.........gah!

No he doesnt. He only survives in the postcrisis timeline.

In Earth 1 and Earth 2, he died.

Smallville is strongly based off the silver-age and the reeve films, if you havent noticed.

[triplet]

LOL I missed that picture. :D

I've missed you 'round here, Sage.

*hugs*

Too bad you're stuck on a merry go round that doesn't appear to have an off button. :D

[The Sage]

Why would that even jeopardize any chance of romance? Obvously something could still happen and end when Bruce realizes who her father is.

However, Im hoping thats avoided since Batman doesnt need romances.

The teenage clone is just a silly idea. What it does is, it makes Cadmus cloning the real Kon-El in the future into a repetitive storyline....

Its better not to bring stuff that isnt even supposed to happen yet into the present fold. Id rather this show try to be more of a prequel than "Ultimate Superman."

I don't see how it makes it silly. All it means is that the cloning procedure is proven and that they've managed to perfect it to the point of creating Kon-El with no errors.

[Brainiac 8]

I've missed you 'round here, Sage.

*hugs*

Too bad you're stuck on a merry go round that doesn't appear to have an off button. :D


Here it is...see if it works.;)



http://www.a-zdarts.com/pics/large-off.jpg

[Tim Drake]

I don't see how it makes it silly. All it means is that the cloning procedure is proven and that they've managed to perfect it to the point of creating Kon-El with no errors.

But it wasnt even perfected with Kon-El, thats why half of his DNA needed to be a humans...it needed to be Lex's. They wanted to create a Superman clone in the wake of his death....but they ended up getting something else.

And its redux too, for something thats been done to happen again...

I think we should first wait and see whether the character of 'Connor Kent' even survives the Infinite Crisis. Hes one of the candidates to die according to the Wizard article. They may be trying to get rid of him for good....since hes served his purpose in the DCU.

[The Sage]

But it wasnt even perfected with Kon-El, thats why half of his DNA needed to be a humans...it needed to be Lex's. They wanted to create a Superman clone in the wake of his death....but they ended up getting something else.

And its redux too, for something thats been done to happen again...

I think we should first wait and see whether the character of 'Connor Kent' even survives the Infinite Crisis. Hes one of the candidates to die according to the Wizard article. They may be trying to get rid of him for good....since hes served his purpose in the DCU.

Well I doubt he's going to die considering the Titans Tomorrow storyline shows that he'll be Superman in the future.

Besides, what difference does it make what happens to him? Joe Chill hasn't been used in the comics since the 80s yet they used him in Batman Begins.

[Tim Drake]

He HAS been used in the modern postcrisis. The only difference is here, Batman doesnt know that 'Joe Chill' truely killed his parents. The name itself could be an alias.

The movie changed that detail, I suppose Nolan prefered the pre-zero hour and pre-crisis interpretation of Chill....however, in the modern comics, Batman will never know the truth (thats how I like it) but Chill still exists.

[The Sage]

Okay, continuing...

To add the first part of the "Brother" arc, at the end, the scientists at Cadmus are looking at papers with Connor's stats, and the stats of failed experiments. The camera pans up to reveal a full grown specimen in a tube, even older than Clark, and again it bears a resemblance to him, but not much.

- Second part begins with Clark and Connor walking into the Talon. Connor's been begging Clark to show him how to use his heat vision. (Clark's wearing his blue jeans and t-shirt shirt with the red long sleeve shirt, Connor's wearing the same except for a black t-shirt) Clark tells him he has to focus on something that gets him hot. Ironically, when he says this, Lois comes from the back, since she works there. Connor sees her, and almost instantaneously his heat vision flares up, almost a deja vu of Heat from Season 2. Luckily Connor only starts a small fire.

- At Cadmus, the doctors are ready to release the new specimen. One of them mentions that unlike the others including Connor, they've managed to find a way to control it. Professor Phineas Potter reveals some blue vials filled with liquid made to affect the bloodstream of their new specimen.

- The new clone is released, and he's a little bigger than Clark. It seems to be fine at first. Suddenly he begins to grab himself in pain, his skin color turning pale. A professor notes it's possibly from aging the cells too quickly or from too much blood from the samples and not enough human DNA. The creature attacks one of the scientists, who attempted to wave green kryptonite in front it, with no affect. One swipe from the arm kills the scientist. Potter manages to stab the creature with a needle, its body not strengthened by sunlight yet. The pale creature lays on the lab floor, breathing. The scientists wondering what went wrong. Westfield grabs a phone and calls Luthor.

More to come...

[The Sage]

- Back at the farm, Connor is helping Clark with his chores. Connor learns how to focus his hearing with Clark teaching him. Clark asks him where is he from, in which Connor replies with he doesn't know, he doesn't remember his childhood. The last thing he remembers is waking up in the lab, and Professor Westfield telling him he saved his life. He also goes over where their powers come from, as well as how kryptonite affects them, all of this Connor learned from the laboratory.

- At Cadmus, Lex looks at the new clone, labeled Bizarro. He wonders what went wrong, the doctors telling him. Luthor wants them to solve the problem and fix it, but he's told there isn't much of the blood samples to test or experiment with. In turn, Lex tells them to find the source. Looking around, he asks where is Connor.

- Clark takes Conner to the Kowachi Caves and talks about Krypton. Connor asks if that's where he's from too. His expression is happiness, thrilled to know he's more than just normal, even human. Clark wonders why, and Connor replies "Why be normal when you can be more? Get rich, become a celebrity..." Clark begins to lecture Connor, but the Kid of Steel tells him to save it, and notes Clark hating being different and tells him to be happy about it.

- Connor asks Clark to tell him more about Krypton, in which a sauntering in Lex replies "What's Krypton?" Clark is shocked, but Connor slyly says "The element on the periodic table. Duh!" Lex pretends to be shocked to see them down in the caves. He asks how did they meet. Clark says Connor came into the Talon and he was trying to talk to Lois. Connor's pager goes off, and he has to leave.

- Lex confronts Clark about Connor looking like him as if they were brothers. Clark is speechless for a moment, and he says stupidly that he doesn't see it. But then again, they say everyone in the world has a twin, Clark says to him.

More to come...

[avidreader]

That's really cool Sage. :) :up:

[Brainiac 8]

Too bad you couldn't submit this Sage. This arc would open for some great stories and ideas.:up:

[Red]

I'm liking it Sage, But Connor would have to die at the end of the arc.

[The Sage]

Thanks guys. :)

Continued...;)

- Connor returns to Cadmus Labs, with Westfield chastising him about where he was. Connor doesn't give direct answers, trying to protect Clark. He meets Bizarro, who's still resting in his tube. His eyelids open, sensing Connor, who says gross.

- Connor is sent to perform tests of strength. Westfield unleashes Bizarro on the city, poised to destroy a CEO of a rival company. At first Bizarro grabs Westfield and attempts to choke him. He falls to the floor, weakened. Potter walks over, holding a blue meteor rock that he just created using the blue liquid. They have a way to control him.

- Bizarro kills the man and his security guards easily and quickly. It makes the Daily Planet frontpage. Chloe drives to Smallville to inform Clark. Both suspect Connor. Connor's in the kitchen talking to Pa Kent. He's getting comfortable around the farm. Clark asks him if he knows what happened. Connor realizes what happened and tells him about the new clone. Clark tells Connor to take him to Cadmus.

- In the main lab, Clark & Connor superspeed in. Clark notes that he couldn't see inside with this x-ray vision. They check everything from files to clipboards. Clark reads something about the blood sample used, yet still is clueless about where it came from. They hear someone coming and sped off. Unfortunately, they were caught off camera. Westfield smiles, realizing he found the source of the blood.

- On the farm, Connor is outside playing with Shelby (yeah I'm using the dog too, that's right :p). Clark talks to the Kents about where Connor came from. Outside, Shelby starts barking continuously, and Connor feels something approaching. He turns around and gets knocked down by a blur that crashes into the Kents' home: Bizarro.

- The creature lunges at Clark and they fight. Connor runs in to join, but Clark tells him to protect his parents. At that moment, Bizarro hurled a huge item at the Kents, Connor gets in the way to protect them. Clark superspeed tackles Bizarro outside and they brawl. The much stronger Bizarro starts winning. Clark suffers from internal bleeding and gets tossed into the grain silo. They fight back and forth, then the fight starts looking like Smith vs Morpheus, with everything Clark doing not working and he gets knocked out. Bizarro grabs him and is gone in a flash.

- At Cadmus, Clark, shirtless, is strapped to a gurney with a tube running from his arm. Right over his head is a kryptonite light shining down on him. Westfield looks at him smiling, saying Clark's blood and the blood sample are a perfect match. He says since the blood is not of human origin, then obviously Clark isn't human. He'll make a great deal of money with this discovery.

- He talks about the serum attempts from Season 3, and how now they've been trying to create clones using the blood. The first batch were made purely from the blood samples, but every clone deteriorated. Finally, they came up with the idea of mixing human DNA to stabilize it, and Westfield used his own for their first experiment. Instead of growing a full adult clone, they tried creating a child, resulting in Connor. The next one was the one behind them the Bizarro, who while more powerful than Connor, was dying slowly due to the rapid aging process.

- Now that he has Clark, Westfield says, he'll harvest every drop of his blood and figure out what went wrong. Connor bursts through the door and tells Westfield to stop. He doesn't, and Connor threatens him, grabbing and slamming him into a wall. Westfield grabs a piece of kryptonite and waves it in front of Connor, weakening him. There's a sad look on Westfield's face as he does this. He releases Bizarro to kill Connor. The creature doesn't obey, and Westfield waves the blue kryptonite.

- Connor manages to move away from Westfield enough to use his heatvision to destroy the bright light shining over Clark. Bizarro knocks the green K out of Westfield's hand in an effort to fight the blue K's effects. Westfield tries to inject the blue fluid in him, but Connor melts the blue K in his hands. Free, Bizarro tosses the scientist.

- Connor helps the weakened Clark to his feet. Bizarro sees both of them and tries to fight them, yet his body starts to give out on him. Clark and Connor use their heat vision on him, his skin not able to handle it in his condition. He's still able to attack them, Clark is even more injured, Connor takes a bruise.

- A beeping noise is heard. Westfield is laying on the ground, holding a detonator. He says they made sure they could control the creature. Connor grabs Clark and begins to leave, but CK tells him to save Westfield too.

- Bizarro blows up, Westfield is left outside for the police. Connor grabs Clark and runs to Smallville.

- At the farm, Connor deals with the news that he's a clone of Clark and doesn't have a past life. He's devastated to the point of saying he doesn't have a soul. Ma Kent tries to cheer him up, saying that by saving Clark and Westfield he proved he's human, more human than most people.

- Later on, Lex arranges for Westfield to be picked up from the police. Westfield tell him "I found the source."

End of the second part.

[The Sage]

I'm liking it Sage, But Connor would have to die at the end of the arc.

You don't say...:O

[The Sage]

Okay, now I've got a bit of writer's block, LOL. If anyone has any ideas where to take the story, go for it.

[avidreader]

Okay, now I've got a bit of writer's block, LOL. If anyone has any ideas where to take the story, go for it.

I'm liking your story so far. What do you plan to do with Connor? Keep him alive, or will he die a natural death as a result of his cloning. That decision could help with your writer's block. :)


Okay just noticed the above post.

I guess I should ask, do you want to have Connor die as a result of the cloning, or have him been killed him some sort of action sequence?

[NHawk19]

I forgot about this thread and went into page 1. Found this as post #7

Aquaman just cause no one else ever mentions him

[The Sage]

I'm liking your story so far. What do you plan to do with Connor? Keep him alive, or will he die a natural death as a result of his cloning. That decision could help with your writer's block. :)


Okay just noticed the above post.

I guess I should ask, do you want to have Connor die as a result of the cloning, or have him been killed him some sort of action sequence?

Natural death. Well, that helps. I'm brewing my ideas now.:)

[Frodo]

As far as Hero's goes I'd go with Bruce Wayne . I'd have Wentworth Miller of Prison Break as Bruce Wayne and David Warner as Alfred. I think at first Clark would be wary of Bruce and his association's with Lex. He would come off as a charming spoiled kid but as Clark get's to know him he see's his true dark nature . I'd have him even change his voice slightly when Clark see's who he really is. Seeing Bruce 's act plants the seed's of the idea of a dual personality for Clark .

[triplet]

^^--- Millar & Gough have publically and repeatedly said that there will be no Bruce Wayne in Smallville.... Although, I would love to see WM as Bats. He'd be awesome.

Of course, he's just awesome anyway....

[Serene]

Wentworth and Tom on the same screen? Please.. my heart couldn't take it.

[triplet]

Wentworth and Tom on the same screen? Please.. my heart couldn't take it.

LOL! I know... I'd like go into shock or something... WM with those smouldering blue eyes and growly voice.

*sigh*

And TW with those brilliant green eyes with that million watt smile...



What a combo they'd make.....

[The Sage]

As far as Hero's goes I'd go with Bruce Wayne . I'd have Wentworth Miller of Prison Break as Bruce Wayne and David Warner as Alfred. I think at first Clark would be wary of Bruce and his association's with Lex. He would come off as a charming spoiled kid but as Clark get's to know him he see's his true dark nature . I'd have him even change his voice slightly when Clark see's who he really is. Seeing Bruce 's act plants the seed's of the idea of a dual personality for Clark .

The boy from Matrix? :o

[Brainiac 8]

Wentworth and Tom on the same screen? Please.. my heart couldn't take it.

LOL, Yea, I think my wife would have an aneurism.:D

[mathhater]

Besides superheroes, what about the possibility of some more supervillians?...as in ones outside of the Superman universe?...I think there's some untapped potential there.

[Artistsean]

I dont know if anyone has posted this already, and I posted it somewhere else before seeing this, but id like to see Green Lantern on the show. Not a pre Green Lantern or a teen Green Lantern but an adult already been on several missions Green Lantern. His age could be explained by the ring keeping him young.
He could come to Earth on an under cover mission, so he would dress in his civilian cloths, have to hide his power battery, and keep the use of the ring to a minimum. But he could be a real influence on Clark becoming a hero and talk to him about alien life and Earth. Maybe he even visited Krypton.
His clothes are a leather flight jacket, which he almost never takes off, a green/black blad buttoned shirt, and jeans, and his power ring which he doesnt have to hide.

Id also like to see a young Bruce Wayne, and Alfred, visit, it could be during his travels while training to be the Batman. He visits Smallville, his character instantly clashes with Lex. He also meets Clark and while they don't like each other at first, they at least learn to tolerate each others help. Bruce's wardrobe, because Smallville does this with its super hero guest stars, is similar to his comic persona. He wears all black, all the time, he is in constant mourning.

Wonder Woman: a foreign exchange student from a island no ones heard of, Clark discovers she is secretly super strong and fast, and her braclets deflect bullets. He later learns she is from the island of amazons, and was sent to scout the world of man. Donna Troy wears clothes similar to Clark, red, blue, and yellow.

Just ideas, something Id like to see.

[King Ruler]

For a Bruce/Clark crossover that could even be tied into "Batman Begins" with no confusions, it could show Bruce running away from Gotham, RIGHT after leaving the Falcone and giving up his coat. While on the run, trying to get ahold of the criminal life and understand it better, he could end up in Smallville, working as a small time crook or something, and Clark stops him and the two get into a fight. Yadda yadda yadda, you add on in the middle. In the end, Bruce goes on his way, finishing his journey.

(But then again, this could cause some confusion still, like this would prove that "Batman Begins" is in the same universe as "Smallville", and not in it's own. Meh well...)

[Kane]

For a Bruce/Clark crossover that could even be tied into "Batman Begins" with no confusions, it could show Bruce running away from Gotham, RIGHT after leaving the Falcone and giving up his coat. While on the run, trying to get ahold of the criminal life and understand it better, he could end up in Smallville, working as a small time crook or something, and Clark stops him and the two get into a fight. Yadda yadda yadda, you add on in the middle. In the end, Bruce goes on his way, finishing his journey.

(But then again, this could cause some confusion still, like this would prove that "Batman Begins" is in the same universe as "Smallville", and not in it's own. Meh well...)


It would also not work since smallville is established to take place in the present (current year) and so does Batman Begins....the flashback to the coat was 7 years prior to begins (before he began his journey)...SV and BB cant be in the same universe.

[Artistsean]

Heres my take on Martian Manhunter,
Clark discovers his presents on Earth, he has been on Earth for some time. His story is revelaed, being the last survivor of his planet Mars. He is a shapeshifter so he rarely, or maybe never, is in his alien form. but if he ever does change into his alien form it is kept to a small amount and maybe in the dark. But his red, and extremely alien, eyes are shown with the green skin around them. He could be either a teen like Clark is meant to be or an older being.
He is also fast, strong, and can levitate. He also has mental telepathy and talks to Clark with his thoughts.
Perhaps he can be clark's mentor, he can apear on and off and since he is a shape shifter his apearence is always different. He comes to Clark in different forms all the time. His first apearnce, or his usual one, is that of his cop alter ego. Maybe he is on the run from the FBI.
Like Smallville does on its show with Aqua Man and Flash, Martian Manhunter wears clothes that are colored to resemble his comic self, navy blue and green.
Just a thought.

[Red]

Green Arrow...

[Kane]

Heres my take on Martian Manhunter,
Clark discovers his presents on Earth, he has been on Earth for some time. His story is revelaed, being the last survivor of his planet Mars. He is a shapeshifter so he rarely, or maybe never, is in his alien form. but if he ever does change into his alien form it is kept to a small amount and maybe in the dark. But his red, and extremely alien, eyes are shown with the green skin around them. He could be either a teen like Clark is meant to be or an older being.
He is also fast, strong, and can levitate. He also has mental telepathy and talks to Clark with his thoughts.
Perhaps he can be clark's mentor, he can apear on and off and since he is a shape shifter his apearence is always different. He comes to Clark in different forms all the time. His first apearnce, or his usual one, is that of his cop alter ego. Maybe he is on the run from the FBI.
Like Smallville does on its show with Aqua Man and Flash, Martian Manhunter wears clothes that are colored to resemble his comic self, navy blue and green.
Just a thought.

I'd rather MM use his 'John Jones' alias to observe Clark in Smallville. Clark meets John Jones but doesnt learn the truth that hes a Martian yet...or learn of his backstory. The episode should be viewed through the commentary and prespective of Jones, an outsider, as he observes Clark and his interactions in Smallville.

[Artistsean]

Yeagh Green Arrow would be cool, he is another rich kid only he is a sort of activists who sabatoges things and makes rich companies loose money and gets the poor money. I can see him at odds with Lex Corp, and Lex Luther. He could be in Smallville for the same reason Lex was, to start his comapnies branch there, but really its to topple Luther Corps. It would be cool to see a blonde actor wearing all green using a bow and arrow. I see Green Arrow being sort of reckless compared to Clark. but these are just MY ideas, and Im not saying that this is exactly how they should do it or even that its the best way. Its just how I see them and how Id like to see them.

[Kaboom]

bump

[Kane]

Why... -_-

[Kaboom]

why not? its a fair thread? fine...i de-bump! wait a sec....that didnt work out so well.....lol

[NHawk19]

bump - I dont like when this falls off of page 1

[Kaboom]

yah bc then we get countless threads on whther bruce wayne or GL are going to show up...

[SuperSoldier87]

Who should play him but keep in mind Clark, Bart, and Arthur are teenagers

[Red]

bump

[Artistsean]

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What do you guys think about this? Scott Porter, from Friday Night Lights, is a HUGE Green Lantern fan. He reads all the comics and wants to play Hal, or Kyle, in Smallville.

What do you think about him playin Hal, or Kyle? Do you think Hal should be portrayed as a young adult or teen? Or should he be an adult?
Is his character and story too hard to explain for an episode or two on Smallville? Would Hal work as a teen? Would he work better as an adult, or would he be too much for Smallville?

[The Caped Knight]

He'd be good as Kyle

[phil]

Sounds good to me

[Billy Batson]

Black Adam and Billy Batson withouthttp://members.ozemail.com.au/~scunge/shazam/PoSHAZAM.gif
Clark & a few guess members of the legion of superheroes saves Billy from Adam. :woot:
Time travel @ it's finest, travelers legion members & Black Adam. Watch out Hiro!

[Billy Batson]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/artistsean/GLonSMALLVILLE.jpg

:wow: :up:

[Sam Fisher]

It would be hilarious if Bruce Banner or Peter Parker showed up on SV:woot:

[Kebab gud]

Black Canary... come on ! the blond bombshell needs to be in smallville soon!

[smsvmos]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/artistsean/GLonSMALLVILLE.jpg

What do you guys think about this? Scott Porter, from Friday Night Lights, is a HUGE Green Lantern fan. He reads all the comics and wants to play Hal, or Kyle, in Smallville.

What do you think about him playin Hal, or Kyle? Do you think Hal should be portrayed as a young adult or teen? Or should he be an adult?
Is his character and story too hard to explain for an episode or two on Smallville? Would Hal work as a teen? Would he work better as an adult, or would he be too much for Smallville?

This is amazing :wow: New actors aspire to be in big Hollywood movies and this kid wants to be Hal Jordan in Smallville. I say give him a shot this is grate. I would love to see Hal and involve him in a military episode as a young rooky pilot for the military. He can even work for Sam Lane :D

[phoenixflight]

Here's hoping for Wonder Woman to make an appearance on Smallville. Here are several plot summaries of some ideas I've had to include Diana in Season 6.

Episode: Amazon
THE AMAZON PRINCESS VS THE MAN OF STEEL - After two Amazons mysteriously die following an encounter with a strange alien creature (from the Phantom Zone) on Themyscira, Queen Hippolyta reluctantly sends her best Amazon after it to track it down and stop it, putting an end to a possible alien invasion. But when Diana enters Man's World and sees Clark use his powers to stop the creature she realizes that he is also an alien and must be stopped as well. It's a Diana vs Clark showdown. Is Clark a match for Diana and her magical weapons!!

Episode: Paradise
LOIS LANE MEETS THE AMAZONS OF PARADISE ISLAND - A small charter plane crashes in the ocean near an uncharted island in the Bermuda Triangle, and its only surviving passenger - Lois Lane washes up on shore and is rescued by a young woman wearing silver bracelets. Diana's mission is simple - return Lois to “Man's World”. But after her recent breakup with Oliver Queen and her Valentine's fiasco with Clark, Paradise is so perfect that Lois may want to stay forever! And what happens when Diana goes to Smallville and meets Clark Kent?

Episode: Princess
PRINCESS DIANA TREATS CHLOE LIKE ROYALTY - Diana, a foreign exchange student with diplomatic status at Metropolis State University majoring in World Economics meets Chloe Sullivan during exam week. Trying to help her new friend forget about the stress of Midterms and her recent break-up with Jimmy Olsen, Diana takes Chloe on a shopping extravaganza ladies night out. But is Diana really who she says she is? It's up to intrepid investigative reporter Clark Kent to dig up the dirt and find out who Chloe's newest best buddy is replacing him!

My vote for Smallville's Amazon Princess, Taylor Cole!

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9924/taylorwwji2.jpg



**credit to 'jmc' for the original body image over at www.bluetights.net/theplanet/

[TheCaptain22555]

I'd love to see a Green Lantern (preferably Kyle Rayner because I know him best) and that's about it. There seems to have been so many cameos lately (probably to boost ratings) that it's kind of losing it's aura of being special. Episodes with cameos to me are pretty much "must-see events" because I love to see how the character is being portrayed. I would like to see more cameos but I could definitely do without them for a while. Worry about more important things, like Clark somehow getting stuck with a small job at the Daily Planet. :D

[LordJK]

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9924/taylorwwji2.jpg


That's actually a great looking Wonder Woman costume.

[Tempest19]

Wait... we might get Green Lantern? AWESOME!!!

I think that character's still available- due to no movies coming out about the character (thank god J Black is going't be a GL)- so that would be GREAT!

[Brainiac 2009]

Well Gough confirms that WW is still 'off the table' despite Whedon being axed.

No WW on Smallville.

But that Taylor Cole manip is good, she needs star spangled panties though.

[The Sage]

Here's my idea for a cameo based on Superboy.

It's an idea that I'm still thinking through, so expect more stuff and maybe changes made as time goes on.

This isn't really for one episode, more so a saga. Maybe the middle part of the season all the way up to towards the end type deal. Haven't divided it up into episodes.

BROTHER

- In a two week time span, several robberies are committed in Metropolis, with the thief being so fast that he's not able to be caught on video camera. Chloe, working at the Daily Planet, informs Clark about it, who automatically suspects Bart(Flash) from Season 4. However, that theory is dismissed when a recent robbery in Metropolis Museum showed that not only was the thief too fast for the camera, but he bent steel bars in order to get to whatever artifact he stole.

- We enter a giant lab labeled Project Cadmus. A group of scientists stand around, taking notes, all looking like they're waiting for someone to return. Out of nowhere, the thief appears. About 15 years old, with a very close resemblance to Clark Kent. His name is Conner.

- They mention his powers, faster than a speeding bullet, able to bend steel, near invulnerability, as well as the abiilty to leap at a great distance. Other senses include x-ray vision, which he can't control. Possibly other latent abilities. Body processes solar energy to produce superhuman abilities.

- Conner is very brash, hates hiding himself and wants to go public, as well as chase women. He eventually will become more sullen.

- The head director of Cadmus is Paul Westfield, who seems to show compassion towards Conner since he was partially responsible for his creation.

- Conner robs the Daily Planet, sent there to remove any incriminating evidence against Cadmus' experiments. He runs into Chloe, who he automatically falls in love with. In mid conversation, a security guard hits Conner from behind with a nightstick, which breaks against him. Conner knocks him out and escapes.

- The founder of Project Cadmus is revealed to be Lex Luthor, who instructs Conner to target the Kent farm and search for an octagonal object.

- Chloe informs Clark that the thief resembles him, and he exhibits most of Clark's powers. In response, CK goes to the FOS and questions if Jor-El has possessed another human being as he did with Kara. His birth father replies no, leaving that mystery unsolved.

- Conner sneaks into the Kent farm, looking for the key in the barn. Clark is in the house but catches the movement with his super-hearing. Running into the barn, the two meet each face to face, with Conner making a snide comment. A battle ensues, tearing the farm apart. Conner does some things that CK can't do, such as leaping high in the air and changing direction in mid-air. Clark blasts Conner with his heat vision, something Conner can't do. Conner finds the key but Clark wrestles him for it. They accidentally knock over the red metal drawers (I hope that's the right terminology), and the piece of kryptonite kept in the farm falls on to the ground. Both Clark and Conner fall, succumbing to the radiation. Clark notices this. The Kents come home, puts the green K back in its box. Clark gets his composure, but realizes Conner is gone, with the key.

- In Metropolis, Conner tries to romance Chloe, who's angry at his actions in Smallville. This leads to Conner and Clark meeting each other without fighting in Metropolis. Conner feels great to open up to someone who isn't wearing a lab coat. He reveals that he was created in Project Cadmus, and tells them that it's part of a LuthorCorp department. Clark emphasizes the importance of the key, which moves Conner to find a way to give it back to him.

- Lex goes to Cadmus for the key, which is in the hands of the scientists. A fire breaks out, the container holding the key is lost in the fire. Conner runs into the lab and saves everyone, but Lex wants the key. Conner hands him the container with a melted metal object. Lex is enraged. While talking to Lex, Conner has the genuine key in his backpocket.

- Conner returns the key to Clark and starts to leave when Clark offers to be his friend, telling him he doesn't have to be alone. At the same time, Clark is telling himself the same question, seeing that he has found a "brother", despite the suspicious origins which aren't revealed as of yet.

- Clark and Conner's interaction would be reminiscent of Bart and Clark, but Conner would talk more about exposing himself to people and cashing in on his powers, with CK doing his usual talk of selfish gain.

- Lex, upon meeting Conner, would be highly suspicious as Conner does resemble Clark.

More to come...when I feel like it. :) :O

- Back at the farm, Connor is helping Clark with his chores. Connor learns how to focus his hearing with Clark teaching him. Clark asks him where is he from, in which Connor replies with he doesn't know, he doesn't remember his childhood. The last thing he remembers is waking up in the lab, and Professor Westfield telling him he saved his life. He also goes over where their powers come from, as well as how kryptonite affects them, all of this Connor learned from the laboratory.

- At Cadmus, Lex looks at the new clone, labeled Bizarro. He wonders what went wrong, the doctors telling him. Luthor wants them to solve the problem and fix it, but he's told there isn't much of the blood samples to test or experiment with. In turn, Lex tells them to find the source. Looking around, he asks where is Connor.

- Clark takes Conner to the Kowachi Caves and talks about Krypton. Connor asks if that's where he's from too. His expression is happiness, thrilled to know he's more than just normal, even human. Clark wonders why, and Connor replies "Why be normal when you can be more? Get rich, become a celebrity..." Clark begins to lecture Connor, but the Kid of Steel tells him to save it, and notes Clark hating being different and tells him to be happy about it.

- Connor asks Clark to tell him more about Krypton, in which a sauntering in Lex replies "What's Krypton?" Clark is shocked, but Connor slyly says "The element on the periodic table. Duh!" Lex pretends to be shocked to see them down in the caves. He asks how did they meet. Clark says Connor came into the Talon and he was trying to talk to Lois. Connor's pager goes off, and he has to leave.

- Lex confronts Clark about Connor looking like him as if they were brothers. Clark is speechless for a moment, and he says stupidly that he doesn't see it. But then again, they say everyone in the world has a twin, Clark says to him.

More to come...

Thanks guys. :)

Continued...;)

- Connor returns to Cadmus Labs, with Westfield chastising him about where he was. Connor doesn't give direct answers, trying to protect Clark. He meets Bizarro, who's still resting in his tube. His eyelids open, sensing Connor, who says gross.

- Connor is sent to perform tests of strength. Westfield unleashes Bizarro on the city, poised to destroy a CEO of a rival company. At first Bizarro grabs Westfield and attempts to choke him. He falls to the floor, weakened. Potter walks over, holding a blue meteor rock that he just created using the blue liquid. They have a way to control him.

- Bizarro kills the man and his security guards easily and quickly. It makes the Daily Planet frontpage. Chloe drives to Smallville to inform Clark. Both suspect Connor. Connor's in the kitchen talking to Pa Kent. He's getting comfortable around the farm. Clark asks him if he knows what happened. Connor realizes what happened and tells him about the new clone. Clark tells Connor to take him to Cadmus.

- In the main lab, Clark & Connor superspeed in. Clark notes that he couldn't see inside with this x-ray vision. They check everything from files to clipboards. Clark reads something about the blood sample used, yet still is clueless about where it came from. They hear someone coming and sped off. Unfortunately, they were caught off camera. Westfield smiles, realizing he found the source of the blood.

- On the farm, Connor is outside playing with Shelby (yeah I'm using the dog too, that's right :p). Clark talks to the Kents about where Connor came from. Outside, Shelby starts barking continuously, and Connor feels something approaching. He turns around and gets knocked down by a blur that crashes into the Kents' home: Bizarro.

- The creature lunges at Clark and they fight. Connor runs in to join, but Clark tells him to protect his parents. At that moment, Bizarro hurled a huge item at the Kents, Connor gets in the way to protect them. Clark superspeed tackles Bizarro outside and they brawl. The much stronger Bizarro starts winning. Clark suffers from internal bleeding and gets tossed into the grain silo. They fight back and forth, then the fight starts looking like Smith vs Morpheus, with everything Clark doing not working and he gets knocked out. Bizarro grabs him and is gone in a flash.

- At Cadmus, Clark, shirtless, is strapped to a gurney with a tube running from his arm. Right over his head is a kryptonite light shining down on him. Westfield looks at him smiling, saying Clark's blood and the blood sample are a perfect match. He says since the blood is not of human origin, then obviously Clark isn't human. He'll make a great deal of money with this discovery.

- He talks about the serum attempts from Season 3, and how now they've been trying to create clones using the blood. The first batch were made purely from the blood samples, but every clone deteriorated. Finally, they came up with the idea of mixing human DNA to stabilize it, and Westfield used his own for their first experiment. Instead of growing a full adult clone, they tried creating a child, resulting in Connor. The next one was the one behind them the Bizarro, who while more powerful than Connor, was dying slowly due to the rapid aging process.

- Now that he has Clark, Westfield says, he'll harvest every drop of his blood and figure out what went wrong. Connor bursts through the door and tells Westfield to stop. He doesn't, and Connor threatens him, grabbing and slamming him into a wall. Westfield grabs a piece of kryptonite and waves it in front of Connor, weakening him. There's a sad look on Westfield's face as he does this. He releases Bizarro to kill Connor. The creature doesn't obey, and Westfield waves the blue kryptonite.

- Connor manages to move away from Westfield enough to use his heatvision to destroy the bright light shining over Clark. Bizarro knocks the green K out of Westfield's hand in an effort to fight the blue K's effects. Westfield tries to inject the blue fluid in him, but Connor melts the blue K in his hands. Free, Bizarro tosses the scientist.

- Connor helps the weakened Clark to his feet. Bizarro sees both of them and tries to fight them, yet his body starts to give out on him. Clark and Connor use their heat vision on him, his skin not able to handle it in his condition. He's still able to attack them, Clark is even more injured, Connor takes a bruise.

- A beeping noise is heard. Westfield is laying on the ground, holding a detonator. He says they made sure they could control the creature. Connor grabs Clark and begins to leave, but CK tells him to save Westfield too.

- Bizarro blows up, Westfield is left outside for the police. Connor grabs Clark and runs to Smallville.

- At the farm, Connor deals with the news that he's a clone of Clark and doesn't have a past life. He's devastated to the point of saying he doesn't have a soul. Ma Kent tries to cheer him up, saying that by saving Clark and Westfield he proved he's human, more human than most people.

- Later on, Lex arranges for Westfield to be picked up from the police. Westfield tell him "I found the source."

End of the second part.

I mean, since we're bumping. :cwink:

[mathhater]

Well Gough confirms that WW is still 'off the table' despite Whedon being axed.

No WW on Smallville.

But that Taylor Cole manip is good, she needs star spangled panties though.

This is just my opinion here, but my view...she NEVER needs star spangled panties. I know, that by this point her costume is too iconic to mess with, but seriously...

A) She's not American...so why so proudly display such an obvious American motif?
B) It doesn't match the rest of the costume...i.e. the red and gold...the top and bottom parts of her costume are two completely different color schemes and aren't very cohiesive.

If anyone needs a costume overhaul, it's WW.

But as I said...just my opinion.

[Brainiac 2009]

Well, its classic stuff. If the new film is set in WW2 (as I hope) they should keep them.

Besides, her costume needs that blue tone to contrast all the red and gold.

[mathhater]

Fair enough.

[The Caped Knight]

I still would love to see Bruce Wayne . Out of all the DC comics superhero universe . He should have guest star. His history with Lois, Clark & Lex in the mythology . Could make for great story telling If done right .

[MJZ]

Frankly at this point I don't care to see anymore of them. AT ALL.

They've used up all the main players with the exception of Batman (which is never gonna happen), and they take the focus off Clark. Ollie and his JLA served a purpose this season, anymore and it's just overkill.

[Brainiac 2009]

I agree with that. Aside from the big JL episode, Ollie alone didnt do much for ratings either.

Maybe they should go back to focusing on the core cast and kill all the gimmicks.

[The Sage]

Frankly at this point I don't care to see anymore of them. AT ALL.

They've used up all the main players with the exception of Batman (which is never gonna happen), and they take the focus off Clark. Ollie and his JLA served a purpose this season, anymore and it's just overkill.

Amen to that. :up::up:

[Hypestyle]

Mr. Terrific
Billy Batson
Jakeem Thunder
Wildcat
Jay Garrick
Alan Scott
Stargirl
Liberty Belle
Power Girl (please, bring Power Girl into the show..)

ideas for actors?

[Billy Batson]

Here's my idea for a cameo based on Superboy.

It's an idea that I'm still thinking through, so expect more stuff and maybe changes made as time goes on.

This isn't really for one episode, more so a saga. Maybe the middle part of the season all the way up to towards the end type deal. Haven't divided it up into episodes.

BROTHER

- In a two week time span, several robberies are committed in Metropolis, with the thief being so fast that he's not able to be caught on video camera. Chloe, working at the Daily Planet, informs Clark about it, who automatically suspects Bart(Flash) from Season 4. However, that theory is dismissed when a recent robbery in Metropolis Museum showed that not only was the thief too fast for the camera, but he bent steel bars in order to get to whatever artifact he stole.

- We enter a giant lab labeled Project Cadmus. A group of scientists stand around, taking notes, all looking like they're waiting for someone to return. Out of nowhere, the thief appears. About 15 years old, with a very close resemblance to Clark Kent. His name is Conner.

- They mention his powers, faster than a speeding bullet, able to bend steel, near invulnerability, as well as the abiilty to leap at a great distance. Other senses include x-ray vision, which he can't control. Possibly other latent abilities. Body processes solar energy to produce superhuman abilities.

- Conner is very brash, hates hiding himself and wants to go public, as well as chase women. He eventually will become more sullen.

- The head director of Cadmus is Paul Westfield, who seems to show compassion towards Conner since he was partially responsible for his creation.

- Conner robs the Daily Planet, sent there to remove any incriminating evidence against Cadmus' experiments. He runs into Chloe, who he automatically falls in love with. In mid conversation, a security guard hits Conner from behind with a nightstick, which breaks against him. Conner knocks him out and escapes.

- The founder of Project Cadmus is revealed to be Lex Luthor, who instructs Conner to target the Kent farm and search for an octagonal object.

- Chloe informs Clark that the thief resembles him, and he exhibits most of Clark's powers. In response, CK goes to the FOS and questions if Jor-El has possessed another human being as he did with Kara. His birth father replies no, leaving that mystery unsolved.

- Conner sneaks into the Kent farm, looking for the key in the barn. Clark is in the house but catches the movement with his super-hearing. Running into the barn, the two meet each face to face, with Conner making a snide comment. A battle ensues, tearing the farm apart. Conner does some things that CK can't do, such as leaping high in the air and changing direction in mid-air. Clark blasts Conner with his heat vision, something Conner can't do. Conner finds the key but Clark wrestles him for it. They accidentally knock over the red metal drawers (I hope that's the right terminology), and the piece of kryptonite kept in the farm falls on to the ground. Both Clark and Conner fall, succumbing to the radiation. Clark notices this. The Kents come home, puts the green K back in its box. Clark gets his composure, but realizes Conner is gone, with the key.

- In Metropolis, Conner tries to romance Chloe, who's angry at his actions in Smallville. This leads to Conner and Clark meeting each other without fighting in Metropolis. Conner feels great to open up to someone who isn't wearing a lab coat. He reveals that he was created in Project Cadmus, and tells them that it's part of a LuthorCorp department. Clark emphasizes the importance of the key, which moves Conner to find a way to give it back to him.

- Lex goes to Cadmus for the key, which is in the hands of the scientists. A fire breaks out, the container holding the key is lost in the fire. Conner runs into the lab and saves everyone, but Lex wants the key. Conner hands him the container with a melted metal object. Lex is enraged. While talking to Lex, Conner has the genuine key in his backpocket.

- Conner returns the key to Clark and starts to leave when Clark offers to be his friend, telling him he doesn't have to be alone. At the same time, Clark is telling himself the same question, seeing that he has found a "brother", despite the suspicious origins which aren't revealed as of yet.

- Clark and Conner's interaction would be reminiscent of Bart and Clark, but Conner would talk more about exposing himself to people and cashing in on his powers, with CK doing his usual talk of selfish gain.

- Lex, upon meeting Conner, would be highly suspicious as Conner does resemble Clark.

More to come...when I feel like it. :) :O

I know that I'm late on this, but.
:wow: DAMN! this is really good MAN! :heart: :up: :up: :up:

[ariellem]

Sage, I just read the first few pages of this thread (had seen the end previously). LOVE your Connor/Bizarro script ideas! Hope they do something like this - it'd give them at least an episode, possibly an entire season, depending on how they go about it. Best of luck... I'll be watching & hoping!

[Serene]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/artistsean/GLonSMALLVILLE.jpg

What do you guys think about this? Scott Porter, from Friday Night Lights, is a HUGE Green Lantern fan. He reads all the comics and wants to play Hal, or Kyle, in Smallville.

What do you think about him playin Hal, or Kyle? Do you think Hal should be portrayed as a young adult or teen? Or should he be an adult?
Is his character and story too hard to explain for an episode or two on Smallville? Would Hal work as a teen? Would he work better as an adult, or would he be too much for Smallville?

I really like FNL, and I'd be thrilled to pieces to see Scott Porter on SV. I love his enthusiasm for the comics. I'm not sure we need another big name superhero anytime soon though. Maybe a guest appearance in Season 8. :)

[ariellem]

I know people have been complaining about him, but I rather enjoyed AC. I'd like to have him back for an episode or two mid-season, with bits from underwater. Maybe Lana or someone falls off a boat, or is being held captive underwater, and he can save her and get her back to Clark. Would like to see more of Cyborg too.

[Serene]

I know people have been complaining about him, but I rather enjoyed AC. I'd like to have him back for an episode or two mid-season, with bits from underwater. Maybe Lana or someone falls off a boat, or is being held captive underwater, and he can save her and get her back to Clark. Would like to see more of Cyborg too.

No, no... LOIS is the one they like to drown. They've already done it 3 times, I think a 4th would be hysterical.

Poor ED, she hates the water too. LOL.

[Syncos]

Frankly at this point I don't care to see anymore of them. AT ALL.

They've used up all the main players with the exception of Batman (which is never gonna happen), and they take the focus off Clark. Ollie and his JLA served a purpose this season, anymore and it's just overkill.

All of the main players? When did they have Wonder Woman, or Green Lantern, or Hawkman, etc?

[KBX]

I agree with that. Aside from the big JL episode, Ollie alone didnt do much for ratings either.

Maybe they should go back to focusing on the core cast and kill all the gimmicks.

Actually when Ollie was in the show, the ratings did fine... It was the episodes after he left that didn't do too well....

SEASON 6 Week to Week

Zod......................4.96*
Sneeze.................4.52*
Wither..................4.88*
Arrow...................4.71*
Reunion...............4.79*
Fallout.................5.01*
Rage...................4.46*
Static...................4.70*
Subterranean........4.31*
Hydro..................4.68*
Justice.................5.26*
Labyrinth..............5.00*
Crimson.................4.91*
Trespass...............4.74*
Freak....................4.76*
Promise................4.69*
Combat................4.07*
Progeny...............3.98*
Nemesis..............3.88*
Noir....................3.59*
Prototype...........3.43*
Phantom............4.01

thanks to Best Episode 321


But then again I just saw you made that post on 2/14 so I make myself look like an idiot

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I wouldn't mind seeing an adaptation of Mon-El.

[tvcrazyman]

How about some golden age heroes like the Spectre, Dr. Fate, the Atom, etc

[Artistsean]

Someone mentioned at the Comic Con
That since its an alternate reality anyway
That Bruce Wayne should make an appearence at the end of the series.
Maybe Bruce comes into Metropolis in the last season.

We would see him interact with Lex and Clark. Maybe even show Bruce in his early stages of being a vigilantee (in his Batmanless costume).

it could even end with Bruce and Clark shaking hands at the end (the beginning of a powerful friendship)
The End.


I mean why not, its an alternate reality anyway. So its not the comic or the movie. Why not let Batman, and others like Wonder Woman be on the show?

[04nbod]

DC and WB think we are stupid and can't tell the difference between the small screen and big screen. Bruce is never going to happen- they have given up trying to get him

[Artistsean]

Yeah, too bad.

Here is what I thought would be great for the last season:

Wonder Woman has already made an appearence on the show in the previous season. Also in the previous season Lois and Clark, after a season of flirting finally get together at the season finally.

The final season could start with Lois and Clark finally dating.
Bruce Wayne comes to town. He hides his identity for a while, he is on his travels around the world. Training with fighters and theives.
His butler Alfred joins him.
Maybe Brucce is also planning on buying out Lex or something, once he sees how evil and dangerous him being in charge can be.
Bruce and Clark don't get along, like oil and water.
Bruce wears gear (like the body armor in Batman Begins pre-Bat suit).
He is just starting his vigilanteeing.
Maybe he is the one who pushes Clark towards being a Superhero.

Ends with Clark and Bruce taking down some great evil,
Like Lex's armor of Superman clones,
then they shake hands.


Nothing concrete, just stuff I would like to see.

I think they should end the show already though.

[RySmack]

They would be really good, artistsean....i really think that the SERIES finale should be like the "justice" episode with victor stone(cyborg), aquaman, and green arrow...and perhaps a vigilante appearance of bruce wayne...or just a season finale.

personally, i think they should just stick with the flash, cyborg, green arrow(maybe add green lantern and bruce wayne), and then make some continuation of prior episodes like cloe's mother or the kid tobias...
whatever they do and whoever they add they better continue their story...

[TwilightPro101]

Yeah, too bad.

Here is what I thought would be great for the last season:

Wonder Woman has already made an appearence on the show in the previous season. Also in the previous season Lois and Clark, after a season of flirting finally get together at the season finally.

The final season could start with Lois and Clark finally dating.
Bruce Wayne comes to town. He hides his identity for a while, he is on his travels around the world. Training with fighters and theives.
His butler Alfred joins him.
Maybe Brucce is also planning on buying out Lex or something, once he sees how evil and dangerous him being in charge can be.
Bruce and Clark don't get along, like oil and water.
Bruce wears gear (like the body armor in Batman Begins pre-Bat suit).
He is just starting his vigilanteeing.
Maybe he is the one who pushes Clark towards being a Superhero.

Ends with Clark and Bruce taking down some great evil,
Like Lex's armor of Superman clones,
then they shake hands.


Nothing concrete, just stuff I would like to see.

I think they should end the show already though.

Would be a great approach if they could get past all the studio issues and I agree with you on the end of the show.

[Billy Batson]

DC and WB think we are stupid and can't tell the difference between the small screen and big screen. Bruce is never going to happen- they have given up trying to get him

Damn! Whatever happen to Supply & Demand? :csad:

personally, i think they should just stick with the flash, cyborg, green arrow(maybe add green lantern and bruce wayne), and then make some continuation of prior episodes like cloe's mother or the kid tobias...
whatever they do and whoever they add they better continue their story...

Smallville is it's own universe, creatively they can go anywhere with the stories.
The WB just being A holes.:whatever: :csad:

[Apollo]

The Hulk

robot chicken lol

[TwilightPro101]

The Hulk

robot chicken lol

And that has what to do with the topic of the thread?

[project13]

Have John Henry Irons on SV! He could be a student at Metropolis University studying enginerring. He teams up with Clark to stop Lex from manufacturing a weapon called a "toastmaster" that John unknowingly help Lex designed.

This guy would be perfect for the part.

http://www.thebestyears.ca/images/TheBestYears_C_05.jpg

[Billy Batson]

Have John Henry Irons on SV! He could be a student at Metropolis University studying enginerring. He teams up with Clark to stop Lex from manufacturing a weapon called a "toastmaster" that John unknowingly help Lex designed.

This guy would be perfect for the part.

http://www.thebestyears.ca/images/TheBestYears_C_05.jpg

I wouldn't mind seeing an adaptation of Mon-El.

:wow: Sweet ideas.

[Justice Bringer]

John Henry Irons would be good but the actor you suggested for him is crap.

Hes already been on SV twice and was killed once by Bow Wow. And hes like a midget..

Irons is a tall dude (they went as far to have Shaq playing him at one point).

[tvcrazyman]

Have Shaq guest star on Smallville as Steel, he hasn't had any roles in forever, I bet they could get him.

[Smallville#1fan]

1. John Henry Irons aka Steel (I don't know who should play him.)
2. Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman (I think she should be played by Megan Fox:heart: )
3. Hal Gordon aka Green Lantern (I think he should be played by Kevin Zegers

[TwilightPro101]

1. John Henry Irons aka Steel (I don't know who should play him.)
2. Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman (I think she should be played by Megan Fox:heart: )
3. Hal Gordon aka Green Lantern (I think he should be played by Kevin Zegers

It's HAL JORDAN.

[Flash-er]

I wouldn't mind seeing an adaptation of Mon-El.

I never even thought about that, but it would be cool. A decendent of Clark, coming back in time to help him with something from the future too, but also letting him know that he has a heritage that goes on and that he should be proud of.

[Justice Bringer]

Al and Miles said they could use the Legion characters. Theres some restriction in place.

I think they said this at the Jules Verne festival.

[Billy Batson]

I would die to see Mon-EL & the Legionnaires travel back in time to help out Smallville. Do a good enough job, CW could and/or should spin off a Mon-EL version to replace Smallville, after the show run it's course.

[Lane & Kent]

It would be better then supergirl

[Kaboom]

saturn girl!

[Smallville#1fan]

They've got some of the Justice League of America (Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg, Aquaman and The Flash.)

What if they got Kevin Zegers as Green Lantern, Steel, and Wonder Woman. Maybe Hawkwoman?

Hal Jordan - wears a green sweater and black pants (played by Kevin Zegers)

John Henry Irons - a colledge student studying how to be a mechanic (played by ??????)

Diana Prince - wears a tiara-like scunchi, red sexy tank top, with short blue shorts, red boots (played by Megan Fox)

What about Hawkwoman in Smallville? She can be played by Emma Watson.

About Wonder Woman in Smallville, what if Lex terrorizes a forest in her home and she gets mad and Clark tries to stop her. In an episode she can be a princess. When she first meets Clark, she uses her look-alike ordinary braclets as heat-ray shields.

That's what I think. Dang, I did a lot of typing for this. lol!

[darkrayaelaine]

i would probably like to see another jla member to debut in sv. maybe hawkgirl , worder woman ect.:trans:

[Brainiac 8]

Howard the Duck.:wow:

[COMPO]

Is he villian or something? Maybe, the Tick's? LOL.

[Brainiac 8]

Actually he's a character created by Marvel back in the seventies. His books are usually crude and very humerous.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Howard_The_Duck_-8.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Howard_The_Duck_-8.jpg)

Plus they made a live action movie in the eighties.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Howard_the_Duck_%281986%29.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Howard_the_Duck_%281986%29.jpg)

Funny stuff actually. :O

[COMPO]

didn't he try and flirt with the girl from Back to the Future?

[darkrayaelaine]

lol

[Brainiac 8]

didn't he try and flirt with the girl from Back to the Future?

Yea, Leah Thompson was in it...and they had a rather uncomfortable scene that bordered on beastiality.:wow: :dry:

[COMPO]

So, he was a pervy duck?

[Brainiac 8]

So, he was a pervy duck?


He's been a pervy duck since the 70's. His schtick was that he was a complete pervert jerkwad tool of a duck that somehow always ended up doing the heroic thing while shacking up with human chicks.

But the comic was always geared toward adults, and wasn't meant for kids. Too much dark crude humor throughout.

[COMPO]

so, the film was cheesy?

[Brainiac 8]

so, the film was cheesy?


About as much as anything that came out of the 80's.

That era was fun...but the cheese factor was high. I mean look at what came out of it:

Big Hair
Synth music
Flock of Seagulls
Kevin Bacon in Footloose
Men Without Hats
Garbage Pail Kids
New Kids on the Block
Vanilla Ice
The Moonwalk

I love the eighties, but wow did it inspire a decade of cheese.:csad: :O

[triplet]

so, the film was cheesy?

It was a critical and commercial bomb in a huge way...

It only got 19% on the Rottentomatoes fresh-o-meter (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/howard_the_duck/).

That's bad.

[ariellem]

Other superheroes:
Mighty Mouse! NOT as someone for Clark to fight - that would be painful. Have one of the characters watch a Mighty Mouse cartoon or wear a t-shirt or have a poster in his/her room.

Scenario idea:
Clark (finally!) visits Pete, who is now living in an apartment or a college dorm rather than with his mom. When Clark arrives (or wakes up one morning while staying there), Pete is watching Mighty Mouse. He gets up, greets Clark with a big smile, slaps him on the arm and says, "Hey, wouldn't it be COOL to be able to fly like that? The cape, the girl, ..." [brief pause as camera on Clark's face shows that he's not sure how to answer that] "Wait a minute, Clark - you can, can't you?! I *knew* it!"

Clark can honestly answer "no" at this point if it's early in the season...

[project13]

Here's hoping for Wonder Woman to make an appearance on Smallville. Here are several plot summaries of some ideas I've had to include Diana in Season 6.

Episode: Amazon
THE AMAZON PRINCESS VS THE MAN OF STEEL - After two Amazons mysteriously die following an encounter with a strange alien creature (from the Phantom Zone) on Themyscira, Queen Hippolyta reluctantly sends her best Amazon after it to track it down and stop it, putting an end to a possible alien invasion. But when Diana enters Man's World and sees Clark use his powers to stop the creature she realizes that he is also an alien and must be stopped as well. It's a Diana vs Clark showdown. Is Clark a match for Diana and her magical weapons!!

Episode: Paradise
LOIS LANE MEETS THE AMAZONS OF PARADISE ISLAND - A small charter plane crashes in the ocean near an uncharted island in the Bermuda Triangle, and its only surviving passenger - Lois Lane washes up on shore and is rescued by a young woman wearing silver bracelets. Diana's mission is simple - return Lois to “Man's World”. But after her recent breakup with Oliver Queen and her Valentine's fiasco with Clark, Paradise is so perfect that Lois may want to stay forever! And what happens when Diana goes to Smallville and meets Clark Kent?

Episode: Princess
PRINCESS DIANA TREATS CHLOE LIKE ROYALTY - Diana, a foreign exchange student with diplomatic status at Metropolis State University majoring in World Economics meets Chloe Sullivan during exam week. Trying to help her new friend forget about the stress of Midterms and her recent break-up with Jimmy Olsen, Diana takes Chloe on a shopping extravaganza ladies night out. But is Diana really who she says she is? It's up to intrepid investigative reporter Clark Kent to dig up the dirt and find out who Chloe's newest best buddy is replacing him!


My vote for Smallville's Amazon Princess, Taylor Cole!


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9924/taylorwwji2.jpg



**credit to 'jmc' for the original body image over at www.bluetights.net/theplanet/ (http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/)

Good WW arc, but if she appeared on SV, she'd looked more like Donna Troy. And this girl should play Diana on the show.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/Jennifer__Rodriguez/CharityShe_Cohen_12086333_400.jpg

[Smallville#1fan]

Episode: Lantern
A boy named Hal Jordan is visiting Smallville. When Lana and Clark meet together for a date, they drive to a resturant. As the two were walking by a group of gangsters (in the parking lot), one gangster was wearing a kryptonite necklace and beats Clark and threatens Lana. As Hal walks by, he sees the gangsters. Using his ring, he saves Lana. As Clark and Lana thank him, he runs off. Meanwhile, the resturant's security camera's see the ring in Hal's hand. The owner tells his friend, Lex Luther. Lex then tries to get his men to find him. As the men almost found him, he ran off to Clark's farm. There, they talked about Hal's origin. Then, as Hal leaves, the men found him, held something yellow, and trapped him. As he was held in Luthercorp Labs, Lex thnreatens him to get his ring. Hal disagrees and gets tortured. As Clark hears he's missing, he rushes to find him. He then finds out he's at Lutrhercorp. As Lex and his men go away, Clark sneaks in and helps Hal. The two then go out to the barnhouse and talk. Hal teels Clark that Lex has another plan and tells Clark its about him. Then Hal goes back home.

Who will play Hal Jordan? Kevin Zegers?

Episode: Hawk
A girl named Shiera Hall comes to Smallville, running from Dr. Anton Hastor and has the power to fly with wings of a hawk. As she runs, she finds the Kent Fram and sleeps there. As Clark learns she is sleeping there, the two talk about her origin. They then become friends. As Clark dates Lana and leaves Shiera with Chloe, Dr. Hastor tracks her down and attacks Chloe and Shiera. Dr. Hastor then kidnaps Shiera and takes her to Lex, who was behind all this. She learns that Lex and Anton were friends. As she was trpped, she uses a hammer and breaks out. She then uses the hammer to get past the bodygaurds. As the hammer is taken away from her. Clark, who finds her at Luthercorp, helps her get out. She then thanks Clark and flies home.

Emma Watson as Hawk girl

[morphmaster]

Green Lantern has yet to come.

I would like to see a young John Henry Irons aka Steel.

And I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this...but how about the rest of the Teen Titans? Exclude Robin since the Batman mythology isn't addressed in Smallville.

Beast Boy

Raven

Starfire

Hey, if Cyborg can do it...

Plus, if they have the budget for all their powers...I'd say do it.

[KBX]

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9924/taylorwwji2.jpg

I think I am in love.....

[project13]

Can someone manip this to make it more Amazon-like? Seems like a good idea for a SV version of the WW costume.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/nolapete/cs.jpg