Circumcision - what's the beef? (mature subject)

[comicgirl]

I never released what a big brew haha there is going on about this. In the US, it's still a very common procedure (like 1 out of every 3 births); however in countries like Russia and Germany, the number drops to one in every 2500 roughly. So, what's your opinion? Is it for religious significance or just to fit in?

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

When you say "what's the beef?" in your title then claim it is a mature discussion, that throws up a red flag for me.

point is, some do it because of tradition or beliefs. others don't because they don't want it done. this choice is up to you.

[Carter]

Uncut looks wierd.
Plus I heard chicks don't dig it

[taskmaster]

I'm uncut and haven't had any hygiene issues

[comicgirl]

Uncut looks wierd.
Plus I heard chicks don't dig itit's not that we don't dig it, I think..I think we American girls are just not used to it...I wonder if Russian girls think a cir, penis is weird...or better?

[dcbmp]

Women think it's wierd if your penis is not circumcised. Then again let us see what experts have to say. http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/2754/womenpref.html
http://www.circumstitions.com/Sexuality.html

[ComicBookGuy25]

It's viewed that uncircumcised penis' are more hygienical. But that means nothing in the game of life. :(

[Snowbeast]

Uncircumcized guys just need to wash under the extra skin really well, if not you could get kidney problems.

[Robin91939]

Uncircumcized guys just need to wash under the extra skin really well, if not you could get kidney problems.
I am uncut and was unaware of this....I know about schmegma....but I have never scene that. Accept for the first time I ever cleaned it when I was like 10, because it was the first time in ten years. After you clean it the first time, you're good. As long as you take atleast on shower every three days (which I hope people do AT LEAST this) you have no problems. I shower every day, and if I go a full day without a shower, its because I showered the night before or will early the next morning. So its really not a big worry. Its not a hassel, and its not like there is a HUGE amount, or any at all unless you just do not shower at all.

There is a great thing about it is that uncircumsized guys have more sexual plessure than cut guys. This is do to the nerve endings being fresh and are not getting rubbed against your pants or underwear having the nerve endings frayed and killed.

-R

[Carter]

Ill sacrifice the nerve endings for the sleek streamlined look.:joker:

[GHollywood]

^^^^LMAO Carter you always crack me up

But its true I'd be pissed as hell if mine wasnt.

[Carter]

I try

[Van_V]

I had no idea so many people were uncut. To me the idea of being uncut would be akin to walking around with the umbilical cord still hanging on.

[Tangled Web]

There is a great thing about it is that uncircumsized guys have more sexual plessure than cut guys. This is do to the nerve endings being fresh and are not getting rubbed against your pants or underwear having the nerve endings frayed and killed.
-R
Hell yeah! Uncut rules! :thing:

[GHollywood]

There is a great thing about it is that uncircumsized guys have more sexual plessure than cut guys. This is do to the nerve endings being fresh and are not getting rubbed against your pants or underwear having the nerve endings frayed and killed.-R


Come on man if there was anymore feeling I'd have a heart attack. :up: :cool:

[Tangled Web]

^^^^^^^^^
Lol!

[Van_V]

Come on man if there was anymore feeling I'd have a heart attack. :up: :cool:
Cut wins :up:

[Tangled Web]

The poll indicates that cut doesn't win. 11-6!

[Slipknot]

The poll indicates that cut doesn't win. 11-6!
The poll indicates that you suck. :up:

No, not really... the poll shows me nothing... it isn't all that clear cut as to who the "winner" is.

[Tangled Web]

Why do I suck?

[Carter]

Because you have a nasty peepee

[Tangled Web]

Oh sorry I didn't see the end of your post Slipknot

[Slipknot]

Why do I suck?
I was screwing around... then I noticed you may take it seriously so I added.

[Tangled Web]

Oh no offence taken! :)

[moop501]

What's an uncut one look like?

Wait...do I even wanna know? :confused:

[Spider-Nerd]

It's just got a little extra skin on top moop.

[Van_V]

What's an uncut one look like?

Wait...do I even wanna know? :confused:
Kinda like the aliens from ID4

[Max Shrek]

lol. I'm semi-circumised and girls find it a bit odd at first but then don't mind it. Also for some reason, I don't need any kind of lube or anything if I wanna wack the ol' weasel. I wonder if that's because I'm semi-circumised or maybe just cause my body was made weird.

[Slipknot]

What's an uncut one look like?

Wait...do I even wanna know? :confused:
Ever see a turtle with his head inside of his shell? That's it... it looks very weird, I mistakenly looked it up a couple weeks ago. First mistake, last mistake.

[Slipknot]

lol. I'm semi-circumised and girls find it a bit odd at first but then don't mind it. Also for some reason, I don't need any kind of lube or anything if I wanna wack the ol' weasel. I wonder if that's because I'm semi-circumised or maybe just cause my body was made weird.
Did the doctor screw up or something?

[Tangled Web]

Ever see a turtle with his head inside of his shell? That's it... it looks very weird, I mistakenly looked it up a couple weeks ago. First mistake, last mistake.
Im guessing you didn't look at Turtles.

[Slipknot]

How did that happen?
I looked it up after seeing threads about this topic a while back.

[moop501]

Ever see a turtle with his head inside of his shell? That's it... it looks very weird, I mistakenly looked it up a couple weeks ago. First mistake, last mistake.
Ummm...turtle are cute,but since this is a penis we're talking about.......ewwwwww.

[Max Shrek]

Did the doctor screw up or something?


I have no idea but it doesn't look like a regular one or a full blown un-cut. It's sort of inbetween.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm not circumsized

and the following people are not either

Christian Bale
Hugh Jackman
Mick Jagger
Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan
Colin Ferrel


....so I am in good company :)

[Carter]

This thread goes hand in hand with accidental mental pictures.
Thank you Shadow Boxing for making me accidentally picture about 5 of my heroes' penises

[ShadowBoxing]

This thread goes hand in hand with accidental mental pictures.
Thank you Shadow Boxing for making me accidentally picture about 5 of my heroes' penises

no problem :up:

[MakeMineMarvel]

There is no medical benefit of circumcision. The only reasons it's done is for cosmetic and believed benefits, i.e. "chicks dig it." It's mutilation if you ask me and I'm a victim. Any sons I have won't have it done and you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours.

[The Riddler]

There is no medical benefit of circumcision. The only reasons it's done is for cosmetic and believed benefits, i.e. "chicks dig it." It's mutilation if you ask me and I'm a victim. Any sons I have won't have it done and you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours.
but why?

if there's no foreskin, you don't need to clean it.

what benefits does not cutting give you?

[ShadowBoxing]

There is no medical benefit of circumcision. The only reasons it's done is for cosmetic and believed benefits, i.e. "chicks dig it." It's mutilation if you ask me and I'm a victim. Any sons I have won't have it done and you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours.

Your right there is no medical benefit.

[The Riddler]

I'm not circumsized

and the following people are not either

Christian Bale
Hugh Jackman
Mick Jagger
Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan
Colin Ferrel


....so I am in good company :)
how the <expletive> do you know?

sick human being.

[ShadowBoxing]

but why?

if there's no foreskin, you don't need to clean it.

what benefits does not cutting give you?

There is no proof showing that is the case

[Tokage]

you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours.

Say what now?

[GammaMike]

There is no medical benefit of circumcision. The only reasons it's done is for cosmetic and believed benefits, i.e. "chicks dig it." It's mutilation if you ask me and I'm a victim. Any sons I have won't have it done and you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours.

Well, I'd be concerned with my son's sense of identity..........it might freak him out if he has something different than i do. My kid would be cut.....just so he feels he is natural, like his father. Not like he has something to be ashamed of.

[Slipknot]

I'm not circumsized

and the following people are not either

Christian Bale
Hugh Jackman
Mick Jagger
Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan
Colin Ferrel


....so I am in good company :)
Creep.

How the HELL do you know that? Wait... I don't want to know.

[Holly Goodhead]

3 of my boyfriends were uncircumsized, 1 was circumsized. it really doesnt matter to me. the uncircumsized guys didnt have dirty weiners, so i dont understand what thats about.

[Slipknot]

3 of my boyfriends were uncircumsized, 1 was circumsized. it really doesnt matter to me. the uncircumsized guys didnt have dirty weiners, so i dont understand what thats about.
They get a cheese like substance on them, smegma. That is, if they don't wash properly.

[Holly Goodhead]

well they never had that problem.

[Dark Carnage]

Whether your circumcised or not it doesn't matter. The whole thing is bulls**t anyway. Cut guys think they've had some sort of surgical treatment that has improved them, while Un-Cut guys are proud that they are still completely in tact.

Am I cut? No. My parents aren't religious and in England, having it done just because it "looks better" isn't running rampant like it does in the states.

I won't be doing it to my kids, but if they CHOOSE to have it done later in life, I'll ask them why but I won't try to stop them.

But I do think everyone should watch the episode of Penn & Teller's Bulls**t! to get a little more info on it.

[Slipknot]

well they never had that problem.
Uh... good? :up: :confused:

[Holly Goodhead]

Uh... good? :up: :confused:

i would just eat it anyways, i love cheese.

[JLBats]

i would just eat it anyways, i love cheese.

I will never eat cheese again...

[Kipobe]

Mine grows back once or twice a week, what do I do?

[Holly Goodhead]

where do all the foreskins go?

[JLBats]

where do all the foreskins go?

They make clones of you with them in a government lab.

[Holly Goodhead]

they make foreskin pies.

[ShadowBoxing]

where do all the foreskins go?

you know those tarps that cover baseball fields when it rains....

[Carter]

they make foreskin pies.

*spits out mouthfull of Pot Pie Express*

[Holly Goodhead]

they make them into confetti!

[ShadowBoxing]

Creep.

How the HELL do you know that? Wait... I don't want to know.

Well I once considered getting circumsised because I felt that my girlfriend was having a problem with it so she e-mailed me a website with a list of names of celebrities who were intact

[JLBats]

Well I once considered getting circumsised because I felt that my girlfriend was having a problem with it so she e-mailed me a website with a list of names of celebrities who were intact

And how do the people at the website know?

[ShadowBoxing]

And how do the people at the website know?

they provided quotes where the celebrities were asked about it interviews.

[ShadowBoxing]

Most of the time though the actors in question were from overseas

[JLBats]

they provided quotes where the celebrities were asked about it interviews.

Why would they ask that question?

[ShadowBoxing]

Why would they ask that question?

They ask those people a lot of stupid questions

[ShadowBoxing]

I honestly don't think its that hard to believe that a whole bunch of actors from the UK and Europe, plus a few from the US are intact

[JLBats]

I honestly don't think its that hard to believe that a whole bunch of actors from the UK and Europe, plus a few from the US are intact

Nor do I, I'm just horrified they'd ask such stupid and personal questions.

[ShadowBoxing]

Nor do I, I'm just horrified they'd ask such stupid and personal questions.

This is why I could never handle being famous

[batnkevlar]

Non circumsized is better to masturbate with... the foreskin adds a bit more movement... anyway, my parents say i wasn't circumsized, and I know that, but it's like I was half circmusized... I mean, not physically, but like, my foreskin isn't that long. How far up is it supposed to go? Anyway, yeah I heard from this one girl foreskin is more pleasureable to the guy and girl... my friend who's a girl, she told me to do the **** cuz she had never done it with a noncircumsized penis, and she'd jump at the chance. Should I mention the ****'s bi? I've mentioned her before here on the Hype...

[comicgirl]

Non circumsized is better to masturbate with... the foreskin adds a bit more movement... anyway, my parents say i wasn't circumsized, and I know that, but it's like I was half circmusized... I mean, not physically, but like, my foreskin isn't that long. How far up is it supposed to go? Anyway, yeah I heard from this one girl foreskin is more pleasureable to the guy and girl... my friend who's a girl, she told me to do the **** cuz she had never done it with a noncircumsized penis, and she'd jump at the chance. Should I mention the ****'s bi? I've mentioned her before here on the Hype...but, how do you know masturbation's not just as good w/o a fs?...maybe better, cause it's "direct...I myself have no preference...it's all good

[ShadowBoxing]

I guess Superman has got to be intact....I mean its doubtful that practice existed on Krypton and there is no way they could do that to him on earth

[comicgirl]

I guess Superman has got to be intact....I mean its doubtful that practice existed on Krypton and there is no way they could do that to him on earthdude, Sup's was created by two Jewish men...he's definately cut

[ShadowBoxing]

dude, Sup's was created by two Jewish men...he's definately cut

I was speaking more from a logical standing point (DD was created by two Jewish men and he is Irish Catholic). However there is reason to believe before decided on the final famous story, Superman was originally going to be Jewish

[swifty]

i would just eat it anyways, i love cheese.

was it like cheese cake?

[ShadowBoxing]

If you want to go with the writers intentions for Superman then he probably was cut (since its rumored he is "Jewish"). However if you look at his character logically he is most likely intact (since all cultures removed from Judaism are..until recently).

[Carter]

They'd have to use Kryptonite scissors

[batnkevlar]

but, how do you know masturbation's not just as good w/o a fs?...maybe better, cause it's "direct...I myself have no preference...it's all good

How do I know? Inference, really. I mean, what the hell is lube? I don't need lube to whack off. Seriously, and if you think about it, the foreskin adds for more movement, and more motion in the action...

[ShadowBoxing]

They'd have to use Kryptonite scissors

I smell a new Lex Luther plot

[Mr. Thing]

My girlfriend dosen't want me to get 'cut' because she says she likes that 'uncut' feeling.

[JLBats]

My girlfriend dosen't want me to get 'cut' because she says she likes that 'uncut' feeling.

I... see...

[Mr. Thing]

I... see...

I ...know...

[JLBats]

I ...know...

Cool, right then.

[Mr. Thing]

Cool, right then.

:up:

[Carter]

Okay terrific

[MakeMineMarvel]

Well, I'd be concerned with my son's sense of identity..........it might freak him out if he has something different than i do. My kid would be cut.....just so he feels he is natural, like his father. Not like he has something to be ashamed of.

So to avoid explaining to your son that your parents did something to you that wasn't necessary, you'd rather mutilate him ... and cutting off someone's skin just to "keep up with the joneses" is "natural?"

That's ridiculous. There is no benefit to cutting the skin away other than the fact that it would look like yours. Are you going to get him a nose job when his nose doesn't look just like yours too? How about letting the kid get old enough so he can decide whether he'd like to keep his penis intact or not?

[Carter]

Pfft.
My kid'll be cut too

[MakeMineMarvel]

Originally Posted by MakeMineMarvel
"you can actually non-surgically "regrow" yours."

Say what now?

True enough! Saw it on the Penn and Teller show a while back.

[akut401]

makemine, you should probably either have a warning or take that link off, because, ya know, theres a penis.

[Dorian Gray]

n/m

[comicgirl]

So to avoid explaining to your son that your parents did something to you that wasn't necessary, you'd rather mutilate him ... and cutting off someone's skin just to "keep up with the joneses" is "natural?"

That's ridiculous. There is no benefit to cutting the skin away other than the fact that it would look like yours. Are you going to get him a nose job when his nose doesn't look just like yours too? How about letting the kid get old enough so he can decide whether he'd like to keep his penis intact or not?come on...no one has the big C done when they're older, unless there's a problem...like the President of Virgin, that billionaire guy. I have never seen an uncut penis, up close so to speak...but I don't think I'd have a prob with one....It's just society...no one wants their kid to be the one embarressed to shower in gym...a friend of mine had a boyfriend that was uncut..he had a lot of hang-ups about it..but then, he was weird anyway

[ShadowBoxing]

come on...no one has the big C done when they're older, unless there's a problem...like the President of Virgin, that billionaire guy. I have never seen an uncut penis, up close so to speak...but I don't think I'd have a prob with one....It's just society...no one wants their kid to be the one embarressed to shower in gym...a friend of mine had a boyfriend that was uncut..he had a lot of hang-ups about it..but then, he was weird anyway

If your so insecure that you get embarassed at the gym about being uncut....I would have to say there are a lot bigger (or smaller as the case may be) problems with you

[MakeMineMarvel]

But the hang-ups are the fault of the parents - not the kid or the idiots around him. There's a lot of things society will profess as the cool thing or the in thing, but that doesn't make it right.

You look at it as being embarrassed to shower when you haven't been mutilated as compared to being embarrassed because you have been mutilated. If you teach your child to be proud that he is intact it isn't a problem.

[ShadowBoxing]

But the hang-ups are the fault of the parents - not the kid or the idiots around him. There's a lot of things society will profess as the cool thing or the in thing, but that doesn't make it right.

You look at it as being embarrassed to shower when you haven't been mutilated as compared to being embarrassed because you have been mutilated. If you teach your child to be proud that he is intact it isn't a problem.

pretty much my point. The "in" crowd feeds off the insecurity of the "out" crowd. They feel better for having something the other does not

[Carter]

I get a kick out of this "mutilation" claim.
Not everybody sees it that way. Doesn't make them idiots.

I'd rather be circumsized and if I have kids they will be also.

It's not like being circumsized is wrong.
And vice versa

[ShadowBoxing]

I get a kick out of this "mutilation" claim.
Not everybody sees it that way. Doesn't make them idiots.

I'd rather be circumsized and if I have kids they will be also.

It's not like being circumsized is wrong.
And vice versa

Well I never called it mutilation (though some have). I mean its not mutilation, that phrase is a bit strong. I prefer the terms intact and circumsised, they don't have negative conotations

[Tangled Web]

Since when has being circumsized been the cool thing to do?

[NOFX]

Since when has being circumsized been the cool thing to do?
Since President Bush was re-elected. Its the law now :o

[Tangled Web]

You're right I just read it in the Patriot Act.

[comicgirl]

Since President Bush was re-elected. Its the law now :oLMAO!!!..I think it should be the choice of the parents (or the mom, if she's single)...hopefullly, the parent would read pro's and cons for the procedure and go from there.....that's in a perfect world, anyway

[MakeMineMarvel]

I don't remember anyone being called an 'idiot,' either. The point of doing so just to hope the kid "fits in" with some other kids, to me, isn't reason enough to snip is manhood.

[DBM]

I'm going to have my sons circumsized, just in case the Jews are right.

[Holly Goodhead]

a cock is a cock, who cares.

[Carter]

Except for the teeny tiny ones

[Holly Goodhead]

you wouldnt know anything about that

[Carter]

Of course not.

[Holly Goodhead]

you have a very aerodynamic penis.

[Carter]

It's like a fighter jet

[Holly Goodhead]

its a comfortable ride but the peanuts are a little salty.

[NOFX]

you have a very aerodynamic penis.
Toven if you unblock me from aim, ill let you see my circumsized penis :cool:

[Carter]

ewww.

[BK]

Desperation at its finest. :up:

[NOFX]

FINEST COCK AROUND!!!
http://graphics.filecorner.com/thedailydose/lll/archives/antinori-gm-rooster.jpg

[DIRECTOR]

it's easier to masterize when your not circumfrenced

[BatMatt]

sex is better for guys who aren't circumcised :up:
How'd it start anyway, every guy is born with it so its not like a defect

[DIRECTOR]

really?? I mean, don't you sense more when YOU ARE circumcised?

[Abaddon]

uncut is bizarre

[BatMatt]

really?? I mean, don't you sense more when YOU ARE circumcised?
no because as someone mentioned the head isn't protected so nerve endings wear away from friction. When erect its not like theres a huge difference in looks anyway

[Tangled Web]

no because as someone mentioned the head isn't protected so nerve endings wear away from friction. When erect its not like theres a huge difference in looks anyway
That is correct.
:batman:

[Danalys]

that aint right. it's that the fore skin has nerves in it. that you obviously lose if it's cut off.

[DIRECTOR]

oh i see, i get it it now.

[Batty for Bats!]

Uncut looks wierd.
Plus I heard chicks don't dig it

Hit the nail on the head there.:D
Has anyone ever seen one of those in a porno? I'm circumcisioned (i know your curious;))But really? its just all... EWE!!! I'm not Jewish, just a decision my parents made. But all in all, I totally think for the better.

[DIRECTOR]

oh man, so girls prefered circumsized?

are there different kind of circumsized? Because i think read a term "semi circumsized or something" on this thread?

[terry78]

The girls will take what I give them. That whole "girls like it so I'm cutting my cock" thing is a little much for me. There would have to be some life threatening reason for me to even consider it. Besides, not too many black guys outside of Africa get it cut, so I don't exactly feel all outcast about it.

[ShadowBoxing]

uncut is bizarre

what and its not bizarre to cut skin off your body. :rolleyes:

[MakeMineMarvel]

If a girl gets all the way to the point of having sex with you - down to the nakedness, and she stops because you have your foreskin - that's her issue. Look if she didn't stop at your beer gut, or your natty mid-section then by that point she is probably in it to win it. If she's got a real problem, tell her labia is oversized but you didn't complain.

[ShadowBoxing]

If a girl gets all the way to the point of having sex with you - down to the nakedness, and she stops because you have your foreskin - that's her issue. Look if she didn't stop at your beer gut, or your natty mid-section then by that point she is probably in it to win it. If she's got a real problem, tell her labia is oversized but you didn't complain.

yeah and if your really hot...you probably have nothing to worry about either

[BatMatt]

I dont know if girls have much of a preference, but usually they're more used to seeing a circumcised penis thats all.

[Abaddon]

what and its not bizarre to cut skin off your body. :rolleyes:


Not any more bizarre than it is to use a blade to shave off your hair,or to shoot a laser into your eye to change the shape of your cornea.:confused:

[Harlekin]

Uhm... yeah. Basically everyone carrying any sharp or lethal objects really need to get the **** away from my genitalia. Circumcision, I could not bare through it.

[MakeMineMarvel]

Not any more bizarre than it is to use a blade to shave off your hair,or to shoot a laser into your eye to change the shape of your cornea.:confused:


Except hair and skin are not the same thing, and shooting a laser in your eye to change the shape of your cornea is proven to be beneficial.

[Abaddon]

Except hair and skin are not the same thing, and shooting a laser in your eye to change the shape of your cornea is proven to be beneficial.

So how is a circumsion detrimental to ones health?:confused:

[ShadowBoxing]

So how is a circumsion detrimental to ones health?:confused:

Someone said uncut was bizarre so I was just giving a response to counter his claim. It was not meant to be taken as serious, I was simply pointing out that he had a unfounded opinion

[War Lord]

Uhm... yeah. Basically everyone carrying any sharp or lethal objects really need to get the **** away from my genitalia. Circumcision, I could not bare through it.

You can and you will.

*snikt*

[Abaddon]

Someone said uncut was bizarre so I was just giving a response to counter his claim. It was not meant to be taken as serious, I was simply pointing out that he had a unfounded opinion


It was me,and an opinion cant be unfounded.It is simply that...an opinion.

[terry78]

As soon as someone tells me factual and accounted benefits of it, aside from just "lots of chicks like it", I'll no longer sneer at it.

[Themanofbat]

As soon as someone tells me factual and accounted benefits of it, aside from just "lots of chicks like it", I'll no longer sneer at it.

There are no benefits to circumcision... it's an old barbaric religious practice.

I have my foreskin, and I've never had problems with the opposite sex.

:)

[Robin91939]

I'm not circumsized

and the following people are not either

Christian Bale
Hugh Jackman
Mick Jagger
Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan
Colin Ferrel


....so I am in good company :)
Yeah, well I know that they don't shave around there genitals, they wax. :rolleyes:

How do you know that, and why would you want to know that.

-R

[War Lord]

There are no benefits to circumcision... it's an old barbaric religious practice.

I have my foreskin, and I've never had problems with the opposite sex.

:)

You just don't tell them that you keep it in a box in the closet.

[Themanofbat]

You just don't tell them that you keep it in a box in the closet.

Your Mom didn't seem to mind... in fact, she really dug it.

:)

[War Lord]

Your Mom didn't seem to mind... in fact, she really dug it.

:)

What kind of man wants to do a 90 year old woman?

[Jesse_Custer]

There are no benefits to circumcision... it's an old barbaric religious practice.


Yup.

I miss my skin ring. :(

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

I couldn't have done anything to stop my circumcision. I was a new born.

[Danalys]

circumcision did make sense in the disease riddled past, but not now.

[NOFX]

circumcision did make sense in the disease riddled past, but not now.
You mean they found a cure for aids or any other STD. Having a circumsized penis is like the next best thing to a condom :o Safety First :cool:

[Danalys]

no i mean they stopped diseases that caused inflimation of the penis.

[Carter]

The title of this thread is damned hilarious.
"Where's the Beef"...but oh wait, this is a mature subject

hahahahaha

[Themanofbat]

What kind of man wants to do a 90 year old woman?

The cool kind. :cool:

:)

[Themanofbat]

You mean they found a cure for aids or any other STD. Having a circumsized penis is like the next best thing to a condom :o Safety First :cool:

Unless you can find a reliable interenet link to back up that statement, it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard you say around here.

:rolleyes:

[Cobblepot]

They get a cheese like substance on them, smegma. That is, if they don't wash properly.

Even that is bull, I shower daily when it's hot even twice.
A few years ago I didn't shower for over a week (little bit of macho commando training) and mine was clean like a plain Whopper.:yellow:

[dbzmom]

I didn't circumcise my sons. I wouldn't do that to them you can hear the little boys screaming all the way across the maternity ward. And it isn't regular baby screaming it is way worse. As a woman I have no preference either way, as a mommy I just couldn't do something like that to my kids.

[chamber-music]

Have any of you actualy seen a circumcision. Check out www.cirp.org and not while your eating.

[comicgirl]

sex is better for guys who aren't circumcised :up:
How'd it start anyway, every guy is born with it so its not like a defecthow would you know???

[ShadowBoxing]

how would you know???

When you circumcise someone you cut off nerve endings that connect to the head. This means intact people feel sex more since they possess more nerves in the head of their penis.

[comicgirl]

When you circumcise someone you cut off nerve endings that connect to the head. This means intact people feel sex more since they possess more nerves in the head of their penis.sure, but the practice has been around for thousands of years...one of the earliest artifacts found on the site of ancient Sumatra (desert in Syria) is a recipe for beer and the ceremony for the C-job...when your a "man" of 10, not a baby...I don't know..never seen a un-C ...penis...

here's my thought...since it directly affects men, maybe it shoud be an elective thing guys can choose or not choose when they're men...it's kinda like pregnancy; men don't have a uterus, so they cannot make a judgement call on in subject..

[Van_V]

We don't need to cut our hair, but we definitely look better if we get it cut as some point in our lives. And sex might be better if it's not cut, but I'll never know the difference, and I'd rather not gross out my girl.

[terry78]

I don't do permanent things like that just for a girl. There are always more girls out there.

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

Y'know, it kind of pisses me off that I had no say in my circumcision.

[Isildur´s Heir]

I´m uncut, and i think that most people in Europe are.
Circumcision is not that usual here as it is in the States...i think :confused:

[Hobgoblin]

Meh, what the hell. Cut em.

[ShadowBoxing]

I´m uncut, and i think that most people in Europe are.
Circumcision is not that usual here as it is in the States...i think :confused:

yes you are correct sir, it is common in the states....but I'm intact:D

[ShadowBoxing]

sure, but the practice has been around for thousands of years...one of the earliest artifacts found on the site of ancient Sumatra (desert in Syria) is a recipe for beer and the ceremony for the C-job...when your a "man" of 10, not a baby...I don't know..never seen a un-C ...penis...

here's my thought...since it directly affects men, maybe it shoud be an elective thing guys can choose or not choose when they're men...it's kinda like pregnancy; men don't have a uterus, so they cannot make a judgement call on in subject..

so because its been around for thousands of years we should still do it :confused:
excuse me...didn't they do blood lettings back then too

[Carter]

It should be the parents decision, plain and simple.

[War Lord]

so because its been around for thousands of years we should still do it :confused:
excuse me...didn't they do blood lettings back then too

They're starting to do them again, because they've found some medical use for it after all.

[MakeMineMarvel]

We don't need to cut our hair, but we definitely look better if we get it cut as some point in our lives. And sex might be better if it's not cut, but I'll never know the difference, and I'd rather not gross out my girl.

To equate cutting your hair (which is just hair) and cutting your foreskin (which actually has nerve endings in it) is about the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard.

Why don't men just cut off their nipples, too? I mean, there's no benefit to it and chicks might like it so, why not give it a shot. :confused:

I have yet to hear one convincing reason why cutting skin from any part of your body is good and beneficial, especially from a place that, to men, is probably right up there as the most important part.

[Van_V]

To equate cutting your hair (which is just hair) and cutting your foreskin (which actually has nerve endings in it) is about the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard.

Why don't men just cut off their nipples, too? I mean, there's no benefit to it and chicks might like it so, why not give it a shot. :confused:

I have yet to hear one convincing reason why cutting skin from any part of your body is good and beneficial, especially from a place that, to men, is probably right up there as the most important part.

No, you're strewing the analogy. It was a reply to say why would you ever cut anything that doesn't need to be. You don't need to cut hair, but you do it for the look. Ditto for foreskin. If nippless chests become vogue someday, then maybe we'll end up cutting those at birth too, who knows. All I know is I'm thankful I DIDN'T have the choice, because I'm pretty sure I'd want that freakish thing off, but man would it be torture to have it done when I can tell the difference.

You guys are just bitter because you have ugly penises.

edited to add - I'm pretty sure I said it in another post, but it's also like not cutting off the umbilical cord. Gross, man.

[TheSumOfGod]

You guys are just bitter because you have ugly penises.

Think of a penis as an action figure. An UNcircumsized penis is an action figure in mint condition, with the original packaging intact, it's worth 100% or more of price guide value. A circumcised penis is NOT in mint condition, it's original packaging is missing, it's only worth 50% to 75% of price guide value. Sorry, your penises aren't worth as much as ours, and they'll be worth practically nothing if you don't stop playing with them.

[Van_V]

Think of a penis as an action figure. An UNcircumsized penis is an action figure in mint condition, with the original packaging intact, it's worth 100% or more of price guide value. A circumcised penis is NOT in mint condition, it's original packaging is missing, it's only worth 50% to 75% of price guide value. Sorry, your penises aren't worth as much as ours, and they'll be worth practically nothing if you don't stop playing with them.

But then you never get to have any fun with it.

[ShadowBoxing]

No, you're strewing the analogy. It was a reply to say why would you ever cut anything that doesn't need to be. You don't need to cut hair, but you do it for the look. Ditto for foreskin. If nippless chests become vogue someday, then maybe we'll end up cutting those at birth too, who knows. All I know is I'm thankful I DIDN'T have the choice, because I'm pretty sure I'd want that freakish thing off, but man would it be torture to have it done when I can tell the difference.

You guys are just bitter because you have ugly penises.

edited to add - I'm pretty sure I said it in another post, but it's also like not cutting off the umbilical cord. Gross, man.

I hardly think you can liken not cutting an umbilical cord to cutting the foreskin off your penis. If you didn't cut the umbilical cord you would be attacted to your mother for your life

[Van_V]

I hardly think you can liken not cutting an umbilical cord to cutting the foreskin off your penis. If you didn't cut the umbilical cord you would be attacted to your mother for your life
Cutting both ends.

[Varient]

I never released what a big brew haha there is going on about this. In the US, it's still a very common procedure (like 1 out of every 3 births); however in countries like Russia and Germany, the number drops to one in every 2500 roughly. So, what's your opinion? Is it for religious significance or just to fit in?
My son's are not,.. I am.

There could be a Hygiene component,.. and I'm watching out for indication of the rare condition where the Foreskin can't slide back easily,...


I believe that it's an overall good thing to be circumsized.

[ShadowBoxing]

Cutting both ends.

The end connected to the child naturally falls off...

[Van_V]

The end connected to the child naturally falls off...

Then I'm talking about for the mother.

[comicgirl]

I don't think men that aren't cut should feel better or less than men who are.....anything dealing romotely w/ sex freaks people out

[ShadowBoxing]

I don't think men that aren't cut should feel better or less than men who are.....anything dealing romotely w/ sex freaks people out

Anerica is notorious for being uptight about sex/nudity (anything relating to sex). This goes far to explain things like homophobia, what we are talking about here, and the porno epidemic which do not appear to be prevalent in other (european) countries

[War Lord]

Anerica is notorious for being uptight about sex/nudity (anything relating to sex). This goes far to explain things like homophobia, what we are talking about here, and the porno epidemic which do not appear to be prevalent in other (european) countries

Considering that you can get porn 24 hours a day on the local cable channel in Europe, it's probably worse then it is in America. Nobody talks about it over there, that's all.

[ShadowBoxing]

Considering that you can get porn 24 hours a day on the local cable channel in Europe, it's probably worse then it is in America. Nobody talks about it over there, that's all.

actually thats somewhat of a myth. I have travelled Europe a few households get cable for one. Also I only remember one hotel that actually had that channel. Very few Europeans watch TV, the bulk of the programing is News

[comicgirl]

Considering that you can get porn 24 hours a day on the local cable channel in Europe, it's probably worse then it is in America. Nobody talks about it over there, that's all.
they're just cooler about it....it is a natural thing..

[War Lord]

they're just cooler about it....it is a natural thing..

Violence is also a natural thing and Americans are fine with that.

[comicgirl]

Violence is also a natural thing and Americans are fine with that.yeah, but violence is a bit more destructive than sex...or is it?

[War Lord]

yeah, but violence is a bit more destructive than sex...or is it?

How many people have AIDS killed this year?

And no, there is no such thing as safe sex.

[comicgirl]

How many people have AIDS killed this year?

And no, there is no such thing as safe sex.dude, come on now.....you could stick your whole arm in a condom and not rip it...try it..anyone who says " the condom ripped" is a idiot or just using a F--up condom...it's more likely to slip off than break....basically, safe sex means "protect thine self"...if people wish to protect themselves via absintence, so be it...

and, AIDS is transmitted by internal exposure to contaminated fluids.......not sex

[War Lord]

dude, come on now.....you could stick your whole arm in a comdom and not rip it...try it..anyone who says " the condom ripped" is a idiot or just using a F--up condom...it's more likely to slpis off than break....basically, safe sex means "protect thine self"...if people wish to protect themselves via absintence, so be it...

If condoms could protect adequately, than the spread of AIDS should be quite minimal around the world now since people have been preaching the benefits of such for the past 20 years, instead of it marching on in a steady fashion.

[War Lord]

dude, come on now.....you could stick your whole arm in a condom and not rip it...try it..anyone who says " the condom ripped" is a idiot or just using a F--up condom...it's more likely to slip off than break....basically, safe sex means "protect thine self"...if people wish to protect themselves via absintence, so be it...

and, AIDS is transmitted by internal exposure to contaminated fluids.......not sex

There are no fluid issues in sex?

That's news.

[comicgirl]

There are no fluid issues in sex?

That's news.
you can have sex w/o coming in contact with them, you know.......there are couples with just one positive partner...

[War Lord]

you can have sex w/o coming in contact with them, you know.......there are couples with just one positive partner...

Telepathy or telekinesis?

[comicgirl]

Telepathy or telekinesis?neither..actual bump and grind sex

[War Lord]

neither..actual bump and grind sex

Than there is risk of passing fluids, but that is their risk to take and I can't criticize it.

[blueyedgypsy]

I'm too lazy to look through 8 pages of discussion...

Is there a female equivilent parts-wise to the foreskin?

Because I think female circumcision is evil, but physiologically I don't know what it's equivelant would be in male anatomical terms.

[comicgirl]

Than there is risk of passing fluids, but that is their risk to take and I can't criticize it.I agree...all I saw for 7 yrs were people getting the worse possible news you could get about your husband/wife and trying to find a way to live with it...I guess if you decide to stay together...you have to take precautions..

does anyone know if there's any proof that you have a better chance of catching an STD when your not circumcised? I don't really buy that

[War Lord]

I'm too lazy to look through 8 pages of discussion...

Is there a female equivilent parts-wise to the foreskin?

Because I think female circumcision is evil, but physiologically I don't know what it's equivelant would be in male anatomical terms.

The clitoral hood is probably the equivalent.

[comicgirl]

I'm too lazy to look through 8 pages of discussion...

Is there a female equivilent parts-wise to the foreskin?

Because I think female circumcision is evil, but physiologically I don't know what it's equivelant would be in male anatomical terms.I think for the female eq., they're actually chopping off the whole clitorus....OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[War Lord]

I agree...all I saw for 7 yrs were people getting the worse possible news you could get about your husband/wife and trying to find a way to live with it...I guees if you decide to stay together...you have to take precautions..

does anyone know if there any proof that you have a better chance of catching an STD when your not circumcised? I don't really buy that

That was a fairly recent report. The researchers found the findings to be so convincing that they stopped the study half-way through so that participants could get cut.

[blueyedgypsy]

The clitoral hood is probably the equivalent.

Sounds about right, I guess. Golly, It seems like something the individual person should decide, but I cannot think of an uncut 18 year old deciding to be circumcised for hygenic reasons...seems strage for a parent to just make the executive decision to have part of their child's sexual organs removed.

[ShadowBoxing]

That was a fairly recent report. The researchers found the findings to be so convincing that they stopped the study half-way through so that participants could get cut.

rightttttt :confused:

and how exactly did they conduct a study of giving men STDs

[War Lord]

rightttttt :confused:

and how exactly did they conduct a study of giving men STDs

That's how the story went. I'm only reporting the known facts.

[ShadowBoxing]

That's how the story went. I'm only reporting the known facts.

really cause I just found your "study" online and it says CIRCUMCISED men have a higher risk of STDs

[blueyedgypsy]

rightttttt :confused:

and how exactly did they conduct a study of giving men STDs


:D. My thoughts, exactly. Do you have some sources for us, jonty? Or the university that sponsered the research? It's just that there's so much crap floating around out there...gotta look at folk's method and data, really....

[ShadowBoxing]

:D. My thoughts, exactly. Do you have some sources for us, jonty? Or the university that sponsered the research? It's just that there's so much crap floating around out there...gotta look at folk's method and data, really....

funny I just found his study and it says CIRCUMCISED men have a higher risk

In fact, circumcised men were found to be slightly more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease in their study of 1,410 American men.
While none of the 353 uncircumcised men ever had chlamydia, 26 of the 1,033 circumcised men had contracted the disease, according to the study.


here is the link http://www.menweb.org/msnbcirc.htm

[blueyedgypsy]

funny I just found his study and it says CIRCUMCISED men have a higher risk

In fact, circumcised men were found to be slightly more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease in their study of 1,410 American men.
While none of the 353 uncircumcised men ever had chlamydia, 26 of the 1,033 circumcised men had contracted the disease, according to the study.


here is the link http://www.menweb.org/msnbcirc.htm


Hmmm. It sounds like gathered research rather than tested research. So many variables!

I wish everything could be done in a lab...

[comicgirl]

Hmmm. It sounds like gathered research rather than tested research. So many variables!

I wish everything could be done in a lab...yeah, but I think if you're cut or not, you run the risk having unprotected sex..like playing russian roulette w/ your family jewels

[War Lord]

really cause I just found your "study" online and it says CIRCUMCISED men have a higher risk of STDs

It was a widely reported study, not just on some website.

[blueyedgypsy]

here is the link http://www.menweb.org/msnbcirc.htm[/font]


Hmmm. Still didn't say much. That's just a collection of statistical correlations that have been found:(. "Correlation does not equal causation", aye?

[blueyedgypsy]

It was a widely reported study, not just on some website.
Id be really interested in reading it if you could find a link for me:). Honest, I'm not being contrary, I'd like to read up on it.

[ShadowBoxing]

It was a widely reported study, not just on some website.

I found several sources thank you.
BTW I never found your "widely reported study"
and blueyedgypsy is correct this study I provided is highly debatable and has major problems with its logistics

[War Lord]

:D. My thoughts, exactly. Do you have some sources for us, jonty? Or the university that sponsered the research? It's just that there's so much crap floating around out there...gotta look at folk's method and data, really....

here you go

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/06/MNGANDJFVK1.DTL&type=printableL

[blueyedgypsy]

"Laboratory studies have found that the foreskin is rich in white blood cells, which are favored targets of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. So the theory is that men who are uncircumcised are much more likely to contract the virus during sex with an infected woman, and that the epidemic spreads when these newly infected men have sex with other women within their network of sexual partners.

The lead investigators of the study, Dr. Bertran Auvert of the University of Paris and Adrian Puren of South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases, are not talking. The results were expected to be discussed at an AIDS conference in Rio de Janeiro in three weeks. But word about the findings has been circulating among researchers searching for ways to slow the epidemic.

"I would be thrilled if it works, but we will also need the results of other trials,'' said Johns Hopkins University epidemiologist Ronald Gray, who is conducting, in Uganda, one of two other controlled clinical trials of male circumcision. "



That's really fascinating!

[blueyedgypsy]

It'll be a real godsend if the other research confirms it.

Thanks, jonty!

[ShadowBoxing]

here you go

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/06/MNGANDJFVK1.DTL&type=printableL

I would be thrilled if it works, but we will also need the results of other trials

was a quote in the article....they had not even implemented the study in africa yet.


my favorite part was the last paragraph you must have missed

"doubts linger as to whether circumcision itself is protective, or whether the lower risk may be the result of cultural practices among those who circumcise. HIV rates are low in Muslim communities, for example, which practice male circumcision but also engage in ritual washing before sex and frown on promiscuity"

so in other words the reason they showed a 70% in HIV in other countries is because the culture and development of the area helps prevent the spread of disease

[War Lord]

It'll be a real godsend if the other research confirms it.

Thanks, jonty!

I don't deserve the credit. Drudgereport does.

[blueyedgypsy]

It looks then (if I may speculate on so little info:)), that some STD's are hindered by the presence of a foreskin, and some are hindered by the absence of it. So I suppose it all comes down to which STD's you feel you or your child might be most likely to come into contact with...

[blueyedgypsy]

I don't deserve the credit. Drudgereport does.


Yay Drudgereport!

Thanks for the link is what I meant, jonty:D

[Alonsovich]

If condoms could protect adequately, than the spread of AIDS should be quite minimal around the world now since people have been preaching the benefits of such for the past 20 years, instead of it marching on in a steady fashion.

Oh, c'mon. You can't say that. Condoms are affective when they're USED, not preached. The problem is there are a lot of people that don't use them... and when you go to Africa or other places that have high HIV rates the quantity of people that don't use condoms is amazingly high. Don't forget that the occidental world, where there has been massive condom advertising (not a bunch of UN paid doctors saying it to a small 200 people tribe in Africa) that has reached entire countries, is the place where HIV is a minimal problem compared to those places. In most countries in the occidental world smoking or car crashes cause way more deaths than HIV. That doesn't happen in Africa.

[War Lord]

It looks then (if I may speculate on so little info:)), that some STD's are hindered by the presence of a foreskin, and some are hindered by the absence of it. So I suppose it all comes down to which STD's you feel you or your child might be most likely to come into contact with...

You have to take a look at the big picture. Whichever prevents the most diseases is where you want to go, especially in places like Africa.

[blueyedgypsy]

my favorite part was the last paragraph you must have missed


so in other words the reason they showed a 70% in HIV in other countries is because the culture and development of the area helps prevent the spread of disease

Thank you, Captain Condescending :D.

I think I might have mentioned something about seeing if the rest of the research confirms it...

[blueyedgypsy]

Oh, c'mon. You can't say that. Condoms are affective when they're USED, not preached. The problem is there are a lot of people that don't use them... and when you go to Africa or other places that have high HIV rates the quantity of people that don't use condoms is amazingly high. Don't forget that the occidental world, where there has been massive condom advertising (not a bunch of UN paid doctors saying it to a small 200 people tribe in Africa) that has reached entire countries, is the place where HIV is a minimal problem compared to those places. In most countries in the occidental world smoking or car crashes cause way more deaths than HIV. That doesn't happen in Africa.

**applause**:)

[War Lord]

Oh, c'mon. You can't say that. Condoms are affective when they're USED, not preached. The problem is there are a lot of people that don't use them... and when you go to Africa or other places that have high HIV rates the quantity of people that don't use condoms is amazingly high. Don't forget that the occidental world, where there has been massive condom advertising (not a bunch of UN paid doctors saying it to a small 200 people tribe in Africa) that has reached entire countries, is the place where HIV is a minimal problem compared to those places. In most countries in the occidental world smoking or car crashes cause way more deaths than HIV. That doesn't happen in Africa.

You should still see a change in terms of the spread of AIDS if it worked. Even a small change would be evidence of the effectiveness of condom use.

Uganda has been one of the few success areas in slowing the AIDS in Africa and they primarily promoted marriage and faithfulness in marriage to do it.

http://www.usaid.gov/press/releases/2003/uganda030313.html

[Alonsovich]

You should still see a change in terms of the spread of AIDS if it worked. Even a small change would be evidence of the effectiveness of condom use.

Uganda has been one of the few success areas in slowing the AIDS in Africa and they primarily promoted marriage and faithfulness in marriage to do it.

http://www.usaid.gov/press/releases/2003/uganda030313.html

The change was proven in the minimal rate of HIV that the occidental world has in comparison with Africa. Why? Because there was massive advertising about the disease and safe sex. In Africa there are a lot of tribes that don't accept the inclusion of a rubber in their sexual rituals nor abstinence. That's precisely why the disease spreads.

[comicgirl]

Oh, c'mon. You can't say that. Condoms are affective when they're USED, not preached. The problem is there are a lot of people that don't use them... and when you go to Africa or other places that have high HIV rates the quantity of people that don't use condoms is amazingly high. Don't forget that the occidental world, where there has been massive condom advertising (not a bunch of UN paid doctors saying it to a small 200 people tribe in Africa) that has reached entire countries, is the place where HIV is a minimal problem compared to those places. In most countries in the occidental world smoking or car crashes cause way more deaths than HIV. That doesn't happen in Africa. :up: :up: :up:

[Abaddon]

comicgirl is the bestest

[SickBoy]

Here's what i poseted in the other circumsition thread:

I'm not cut and I never would want to be! My girlfriend likes it this way and so do I! I think everyone should have a choice.

And about the hygiene issue: mine is very clean. If you are circumsised, don't pretend to know what its like to have foreskin. It's not all gross and dirty and weird.

I have always wondered about not having foreskin. I imagine it would be less sensitive sexually. The foreskin, at least for me, heightens sexual pleasure a lot.
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I think people need to chill out. I don't know if one is "better" than the other. It's kind of different for everyone. But I'm uncut and I like it that way. If I ever have a boy I won't have him cut. As long as you wash regularly you're ok.

Also, my girlfriend really likes my foreskin because it's actually extremely soft. It's fun to play with!

[Tangled Web]

Have to agree with sick boy.

[Hades]

I think people shouldn't be allowed to circumsice their children.
It should be left to the person, considering this is a piece of you
you'll never be able to get back...

[GoldenAgeHero]

i like my foreskin his name is oscar.

[Darren Daring]

God, I wouldn't do that to my son, slice it all off.

[The Comedian]

I have always wondered about not having foreskin. I imagine it would be less sensitive sexually. The foreskin, at least for me, heightens sexual pleasure a lot.
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I'm kinda the same way. I've wondered what it'd be like without it and I even looked into getting it done at one point, but a hefty pricetag, less sensitivity, and stitches around my beast that will pop out if I have an erection over the three week healing period = no thanks

[Dr. MIX]

Nothing against the uncircumcised penises out there (who are the majority), but they look so damn weird!

[The Comedian]

Nothing against the uncircumcised penises out there (who are the majority), but they look so damn weird!

They don't look that weird. But I'll give up aesthetics for function.

[thedeadite]

my dad's not, i'm not, if i have sons they won't be.

i've seen the procedure on video, it's hard to imagine it's legal to do.

btw..i never had any problems with cleanliness, infection, teasing, girls freaking out..or any of that

[BatMatt]

They don't look that weird. But I'll give up aesthetics for function.
its like a turtle neck :up:

cept you can't get your head through it :(

[The Comedian]

its like a turtle neck :up:

cept you can't get your head through it :(

Ummm, actually yes, you can

[BatMatt]

Ummm, actually yes, you can
not what I meant exactly I meant an uncircumcised penis looks like a head trying to get through a turtleneck. I know the foreskin doesn't prevent that head from peeping through. I'm not cut

[terry78]

I'm really not going to take too much stock in another guy telling me my penis looks weird. If anything, that makes me want to maintain it as is.

[BatMatt]

I've found it really doesn't make too much difference with girls, and if its that big a deal for them, well they're just too superficial anyway

[kainedamo]

It looks normal. And natural. Haha, sucks to be you.

[Erzengel]

Well continuing on from "your" thread. Some girls it doesn't matter to them, others prefer one while others prefer another. But making it sound like it's a big deal what's the point?

[Emrys]

If condoms could protect adequately, than the spread of AIDS should be quite minimal around the world now since people have been preaching the benefits of such for the past 20 years, instead of it marching on in a steady fashion.

Oh condoms DO protect adequately the problem is that a lot of people don't wisen up and use them cause "Bare feels better" or "My religion prohibits the use of Condoms (Africa falls into that category). In most Western countries however the use of condoms prevents STD's just perfectly... that is if you actually USE them which a lot of people are not doing. It's the "It will never happen to ME" kind of attitude. Sadly I know a few people myself who display that, strangely though they are mostly female. Oh and the probability that your condom is gonna burst is soooo small, heck my pals and I had fun pulling condoms over our heads and blowing them up like a space helmet when we were teenagers and the things didn't pop. It's more likely that you get hit by a lightning than that your condom's gonna burst.

[BatMatt]

condoms are like 99.98% effective against STDs and pregnancy

[ampersand]

I didn't think it was that high.

[BatMatt]

thats when used properly (checking experation date, checking for holes, pinching the package, ect)

[da creole kid]

Well have you ever seen a kangaroo embryo?