favorite HUMAN superhero movie villain

[Riven]

Who is your favorite HUMAN superhero movie villain?

The kind of character that, without any superpowers, colourful psychosis or fantastical army of ninja warriors, but through cunning, deceit and large sums of money, manages to make the hero's life HELL.



The contenders...

MAX SHRECK (Christopher Walken, Batman Returns)

The epitome of vampiric greed and corruption, this Gotham City businessman will lie, cheat, bribe and murder to get his way. Wants to build an electrical plant that actually sucks power instead of generating it. To obtain this goal he kills his secretary and rigs a mayoral election, putting a criminal maniac up for candidate.

http://minadream.com/timburton/images/BatmanReturns/pic3.jpg

WILLIAM STRYKER (Brian Cox, X2)

Mutant-hating military high-up who will turn mutantkind's greatest invention against itself. Uses immoral experiments to abuse mutant powers. Leader of a covert taskforce. Political manipulator, fascist bully, genocidal fiend.

http://www.mtv.it/img/flipbook/foto_05(1).jpg

GLENN TALBOT (Josh Lucas, Hulk)

D!ck. Military contractor who screws everyone in his path. Sees big dollar-signs in death and mayhem. Wants to destroy the Hulk, but worst of all, is part of an overly-tense emotional love-triangle.

http://ecomm.mercanti.it/dvdstore/Foto/DPT1547_1040102170218.jpg

CARMINE FALCONE (Tom Wilkinson, Batman Begins)

Powerful crime boss who controls all illegal business in Gotham. Can have anyone killed, silenced or bought. Owns judges and politicians. Acts with total impunity. Unwittingly aids nihilist warlord and deranged doctor in evil plot to destroy the city.

http://www.agalaxia.com.br/imagens/carmine_falcone.jpg

HARRY OSBORN (James Franco, Spider-Man 2)

Slightly spoilt, love-impaired and mostly confused young man. Girlfriend left him for his best friend, the hero killed his father and business is not looking up. His best chance at continued fame and fortune nearly blows up New York, creating a new supervillain. Strikes pact with said villain to deliver him Spidey for whatever the villain might need to complete his doomsday device. Discovers hidden family heirlooms, which lead to interesting possibilities...

http://cache.eonline.com/Features/Features/Heatwave2004/Spiderman/Images/spiderman3.jpg

WILSON FISK (Michael Clarke Duncan, Daredevil)

Posing as a philantropist entrepreneur, this Kingpin of crime wants nothing more than to enrich himself by any means possible. Has old friends murdered out of spite and to hide his fellonious identity. Hires ruthless and unintentionally funny hitman to kill the hero and his girlfriend/fellow vigilante. Strong-ass son of a ******.

http://lygo.com/ly/wg/e/ss/Daredevil3.jpg

LEX LUTHOR (Gene Hackman, Superman The Movie)

A debatable candidate, since he falls squarely in the Oldschool Megalomaniac / Mad Scientist category, but arguably the ULTIMATE human nemesis to the divine superhero. Steals nuclear weapons, carries big chunks of green glowing rock and treats his devoted staff like crap.

http://www.enduringvision.com/archives/lex_luthor.jpg

[CConn]

Falcone, Shrek, and Luthor, definitely.

Harry and Stryker were great as well, though.

[Isildur´s Heir]

William Stryker

[Charlie No-One]

Shreck

[Silver Sable]

Harry Osborn,Kingpin, and William Stryker

[Chris Wallace]

That's not a pic of Luas as Talbot, by the way. I think it was taken from "Sweet Home Alabama".

[SuperFerret]

Fisk.

[co2]

Out of that list, Kingpin and Lex Luthor were great but Bryan Cox's performance as William Stryker really won me over. He was dastardly in a very real world way. Plus, Cox is just such a good actor. Looking at the results, it seems most feel that way too.

[3dman27]

col.stryker

[Dwarf lord]

Gene Hackman set the standard and people are still trying to achieve it.

[Sentinel X]

Scarecrow...he's human he just uses fear gas but if that doesnt count then Ra's Al Ghul

[griffolyon12]

Harry Osborn.

[CConn]

Scarecrow...he's human he just uses fear gas but if that doesnt count then Ra's Al GhulTechnically, they'd both Metas.

[The Question]

Ra's is a meta if you stretch it. Scarecrow isn't a meta. Well, he is in the comics now, but in the movie he wasn't.

[Snowbeast]

Luther because he's a better counter balance to the hero. He's the polar opposite to who Superman is and what he stands for.

[Karem-Knight]

Osborn, Falcone and Fisk

[Kmack]

Falcone and Kingpin

[J.R.]

I loved to hate Kingpin so much. He was great.

[Ikenheimer]

Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor, AND John Shea as Lex Luthor. Styker was a great villain and was nice and evil, as were Fisk and Falcone. but Luthor (in both examples) was not just a villain-he was a villain that had a sense of humor and taste. Fisk was classy, but he was just plain evil. Luthor was a villain (in movies, TV, and comics) that pretty much only Superman knew was a villain, which made him an even more powerful adversary.

[PyroChamber]

What about Howard Saint?

[3dman27]

What about Howard Saint?
i think he was made for the punisher movie if i understand what i'veread on these boards correctly

[CConn]

i think he was made for the punisher movie if i understand what i'veread on these boards correctlySo was Max Shreck.

[Riven]

Scarecrow...he's human he just uses fear gas but if that doesnt count then Ra's Al GhulLike I said, I discounted the traditional "costumed psycho" and "leader of cult armies" type of villains. I realise these categories are slightly hypocritical (Stryker has an army unit under his command, Lex Luthor for instance could be considered insane and Harry Osborn will become a costumed freak), but I just wanted to make a poll where the likes of Magneto, Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow and by that logic the Joker, since he too is just human after all, wouldn't be featured. These are more the "mastermind behind the scenes" villains.

What about Howard Saint?Ah yes, I forgot about him. Oh well, just vote "other" then...

[mongo44]

Luthor hands down

[Guason]

A tie between Gotham`s "own Santa Claus" Max Schreck and William Stryker from X2.

[Carmine Falcone]

Shreck
Falcone
Stryker

[JP]

Stryker

[Ceb-Man]

Carmine Falcone

The Ceb-Man!

[Carmine Falcone]

Carmine Falcone

Yes?



sorry...lame. :o

[Guyverjay]

Gene Hackman set the standard and people are still trying to achieve it.

The standard of what? Really cheesey villains?

[JP]

The standard of what? Really cheesey villains?

I think so.

[Incrediblejeff]

I would choose Max Shrek.

[That-Guy]

Stryker, because I absolutely HATED him by the end of X2... he was such a loathesome bastard that you couldn't help but want Wolvie to slash him to pieces. Brian Cox kicks everybody's ass.

Carmine Falcone would be a close second though. Tom Wilkinson rocks.

Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor would be third. I think he's AWESOME in the role; my only complaint is that as the movies progressed, they made him more comical and not much of a threat. And any incarnation of Lex, be it, billionaire industrialist or mad scientist, should be lethal.

Harry Osborn would be an honorable mention... Franco is a terrific actor who REALLY stood out in Spider-Man 2.

The other ones I couldn't care less about.

[Riven]

Personally I voted for Max Shreck and William Stryker. They're the very best. Falcone, Luthor and Harry Osborn deserve an honorable mention though.

I'm kinda surprised so many people voted for the Kingpin still... I thought he was lame and grossly underdeveloped in DD, despite Michael Clarke Duncan's decent performance... Oh well.

[Chris Wallace]

The standard of what? Really cheesey villains?
I'd have to agree.

[Abaddon]

Stryker was such a bastard.He earned the win.


And don't Doc Ock,and Green Goblin techncally count as humans?

[3dman27]

Stryker was such a bastard.He earned the win.


And don't Doc Ock,and Green Goblin techncally count as humans?
you've got that right and by marvel standards otto is tecchnically a cyborg while normy is an augmented human

[The Chairman]

The Joker. He's human, he counts because he doesn't have super powers.

I'd say Catwoman (the Pfeiffer version as well) as well, but most of you would argue that she had superpowers because of the whole nine lives schtick, though it's been debated.

[HighVoltage]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/daredevil-farrell_as_bullseye.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/bullseyecostume.jpg

BullsEye!!!!

[Calendar Man]

Yeah Joker, Penguin and Riddler should all be choices here. I would pick Joker.

[Riven]

People really don't seem to get that this whole poll was all about not including the colourful "shtick" villains like Joker, Green Goblin or Bullseye. If you put the frigging Joker in a poll next to Glenn Talbot or even Stryker, do you think anyone is gonna vote for them?

The point was: none of Batman's psychotic "freaks", no superpowers, no physical enhancements, no legions of doom. Just plain human villains, guys you'd walk past in the street without going "WHAT THE F#CK??" :o

[Octoberist]

I got it Riven. I GOT IT FROM THE START :)

I would go with Stryker.

I hated Hackmans' Luthor. I love him as an actor, but Luthor was a buffoon. What was he? A evil real estate agent. His actions were a threat, but as a character, he's as intimidating as a rug.

[The Shredder]

Probably Max Shreck.

And although I agree that Hackman's Luthor was played a bit too comedic, I still find his performance very entertaining.
Especially his numerous put downs towards the buffoonish Otis. Who even made Jack Nicholson's The Joker's Bob the Goon look intelligent.

[Quentin Beck]

For me it's Harry Osborn and The Kingpin

[Sandman138]

Shreck ruled, but Stryker is my absolute favorite. He was scary because he was what we could all easily become. He was motivated by fear and self-rightousness, two easy emotions to fall prey to. He was at once despicable and pitiful. Easily the most three dimensional villian in the genre.

[CHEZ]

William stryker beating out Lex Luthor? Wow, this site definitely has a younger crowd. Cuz, that is nuts.

[Sandman138]

Well, it depends on what qualities you use to judge the characters. Hackman's Luthor defintaly steals the show. He is memorable, eccentric, and larger than life. Stryker is tragic (in the sense that for all his evil, he's really just a human being whose shortcomings pervert what is a noble goal: insuring the safety of his fellow man), and reveals his indentity in a more subdued, though arguably melodramatic, manner. Both are compelling for different reasons, and though age cannot be disqualified as a factor for this poll's overiding opinion, I don't beleive it is close to the only one.

[Two-Face]

Carmine Falcone - Tom Wilkinson, I like this version of Falcone but the comic book cersion is better.

[Doc Ock 1]

I voted for Lex Luthor,because Gene Hackman played him really well in 3 out of 4 Superman movies(well we all know he was'nt cast in Superman 3)
But still he was cast really well in the other movies none the less.:supes:

[SpiderHulkThing]

kingpin

[not_a_victim]

Luthor, because of how many times he, as a mere mortal human, has been able to bring Supes to his knees more times than anyone else.

[CConn]

The greatest criminal mind of our time!

[Riven]

After seeing Spacey's Luthor and getting to know Michael Rosenbaum's Lex, the character has definitely taken a step up in my book!

[Mee]

Falcone and Stryker.

[Spoarz™]

Wilson Fisk, Lex Luthor, Max Shreck and Harry Osborn.

[Green Goblin 1964]

i vote harry osborne

[Chris Wallace]

Lex put me off in the old movies by being so campy. I haven't even seen SR & don't plan to any time soon. I still vote Stryker.

[captain_jimbo]

I voted Lex Luthor, but I loved Walken's Max Shreck too.

[Magneto]

Guess I'll pick Lex Luthor.

[FOG3]

Harry Osbourne is the best and most interesting out of these IMO.

[Chris Wallace]

Any particular reason? To me, Harry's only real selling point is his motivation. A friend betrayed makes for a hell of a plot device.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Harry was really great in the second movie, he had a really good character ark and it left me wanting to see what happens next.

IMHO Stryker was boring villian in X2, I hate Luthor as he is in SM:The movie, Schreck was just Walken being Walken and wasn't even a decent villian and I didn't like that guy's acting who played Falcone.

Ra's was cool though.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The other ones on this list don't even deserved to be discussed by me.

[32CAGE]

Yeah Joker, Penguin and Riddler should all be choices here. I would pick Joker.

I'm with you. Jack Nicholson's Joker is tops.

[Riven]

I'm with you. Jack Nicholson's Joker is tops.
I'll say it again:

the point was: none of Batman's psychotic "freaks", no superpowers, no physical enhancements, no legions of doom. Just plain human villains, guys you'd walk past in the street without going "WHAT THE F#CK??"

[Carmine Falcone]

Just plain human villains, guys you'd walk past in the street without going "WHAT THE F#CK??"

That rules out Max Shreck. I mean...THE HAIRCUT! :wow:











;)

[AsianHulk]

Major Glenn Talbot is one of my fave villain in the Hulk movie.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/mrphilippines53bx/lucastalbot.jpg

[November Rain]

ha...you've all been fooled,

this is the real answer

http://movie-poster.ws/movies/wallpaper/cartoon/incredibles/syndrome.jpg


here's why

HE ACTUALLY MANAGED TO KILL HEROES, and PLENTY OF THEM.

he was also rich and popular, his only problem was that he was too intelligent and monologued.

His motivations and actions, power and wealth, as well as skills far surpass anyone on that list