The Official Juggernaut/Vinnie Jones Thread [merged - 3]

[spidey207]

This is the Thread that is dedicated to the character Juggernaut in X3. Discuss anything from casting of Vinnie Jones to his role in the movie to whatever you can think of. :up:


Do you think in X3 they will have the relationship between Juggernaut and Prof X as part of the plot of simply use him as hires muscle. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if they did reduce him to hired muscle seeing how they bypassed lady Deathstrike's background in X2. I'm hoping they won't but you never know.

[WalkingDead]

If the rumor of Prof X dying turns out to be true, I can only hope Juggy is the one that comes calling for Xavier's head. Time for a little "chat" with his dear stepbrother.

But really I hope they do Juggy justice and don't use him like Sabretooth or Deathstrike in the previous X-Films. I fully expect them to turn Juggy into a basic mutant with SLIGHT superhuman strength and ONLY mild invulnerability.

My ultimate hope for this movie is that Juggy storms the school and meets face to face with Xavier, only to have to fight Colossus in at least a 3-5minute long fight. And in this fight, they level much of the school and Colossus just doesn't quite have enough power to stop Juggy in the end.

[JP]

Juggernaut is definately something im looking forward to in X3. I can't wait.

[spidey207]

My ultimate hope for this movie is that Juggy storms the school and meets face to face with Xavier, only to have to fight Colossus in at least a 3-5minute long fight. And in this fight, they level much of the school and Colossus just doesn't quite have enough power to stop Juggy in the end.

That would be bada$$.

P.S. jpsketch, I love the avatar, classic.

[Crimson Warrior]

I like his idea too but who's going to fix the school? LOL But it really depends on how powerfull Juggernaut will be, the gem of cytorrak may be hard to explain.

[WalkingDead]

I like his idea too but who's going to fix the school? LOL But it really depends on how powerfull Juggernaut will be, the gem of cytorrak may be hard to explain.

Cyttorak won't be in the movie...there is way too much crap involved with it. Adn if they just say "he's powerful because of a mysterious gem" that'll be one lame prospect.

He'll just be a mutant...less powerful than his comic version, but stil powerful none-the-less.

[JP]

Most likely it will be like Evolution. So he'll be a mutant.

But anyways...

http://www.brek.akureyri.is/nem/8bekk/8c/hrannar/vefur/juggernaut.jpg

http://freethemes.ip.pt/images/shots/wallpaper/juggernaut-800x600.jpg

http://www.planetcomics.jp/illust/1/juggernaut.jpg

http://oneshot.anifics.com/xmen/juggernaut.jpg

http://oneshot.anifics.com/xmen/Juggernaut02.jpg

[Crimson Warrior]

I can live with him being a mutant, but I hope he isnt Sabretooth stand in part 2.

[Blade87]

What they should do is have the army or whatever try to raid the school again. Then they see collosus taking on all of them with ease then a man says "Its time to unleash the Juggernaut" then that is when juggernaut comes out to fight collosus.

[JP]

http://www.comicallyspeaking.com/content/Hard%20Hero/Juggernaut.jpg

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/juggernaut-ult.jpg

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/6093/Colossus-Juggernaut.jpg

[WalkingDead]

What they should do is have the army or whatever try to raid the school again. Then they see collosus taking on all of them with ease then a man says "Its time to unleash the Juggernaut" then that is when juggernaut comes out to fight collosus.

I'm not trying to be a prick...but...

Why? Why would the military be interested in the mansion again, after the President has had his mind changed at the end of X2? And why would the military unleash the Juggernaut? That makes very little sense and I hope that does not happen.

[Electrix]

http://www.brek.akureyri.is/nem/8bekk/8c/hrannar/vefur/juggernaut.jpg

This would be a good look for X3. Just a bit more realistic.

[JP]

^^ One of my personal favorite pictures.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I would prefer that Rogue absorb Juggernaut's super strength, and have a lengthy toe to toe fist fight with him over Colossus.

I mean, I like Colossus and all, but it's time to give Rogue at least a glimpse of what she's like in the comics. And having her at least temporarily absorb Juggernaut's strength, maybe not exactly what Rogue fans want to see happen, but at least they'll get to see her with her super strength.

And, as much as I like Colossus, I don't want yet another character introduced, just to fight with Juggernaut.

I hope that the backstory between Xavier and Juggernaut does happen. Afterall, when it was announced that Juggernaut was in, and that Vinnie Jones was playing him, Avi Arad and Matthew Vaughn both talked about the relationship between Cain and Xavier, and how it would be interesting to play out on screen.

[Electrix]

I mean, I like Colossus and all, but it's time to give Rogue at least a glimpse of what she's like in the comics.

Which comic may that be?

[JP]

http://ideashak.typepad.com/ideashak/vinniejones.jpg

http://www.sporting-pictures.com/emotions/emotions4.jpg

http://www.poster.net/jones-vinnie/jones-vinnie-photo-vinnie-jones-6200207.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1500000/images/_1502291_vinnie_150.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00081/vinnie_jones_02_81833c.jpg

http://anecdotage.com/pics/vinniejones.jpg

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Which comic may that be?

Um... just about every comic Rogue is in, where she has certain powers, that although aren't -really- hers, are still trademarks of who she is.

And a display of that superstrength, allowing her to have a fist fight with Juggernaut, would be pretty swell.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

http://ideashak.typepad.com/ideashak/vinniejones.jpg

I'm not familiar with any of Vinnie's work, but something about him just makes me feel REAL comfortable with him as Juggernaut.

[JP]

As am I. I have high hopes for Juggernaut.

[WalkingDead]

And, as much as I like Colossus, I don't want yet another character introduced, just to fight with Juggernaut.

I hope that the backstory between Xavier and Juggernaut does happen. Afterall, when it was announced that Juggernaut was in, and that Vinnie Jones was playing him, Avi Arad and Matthew Vaughn both talked about the relationship between Cain and Xavier, and how it would be interesting to play out on screen.

I agree that I don't want Colossus there just to fight Juggernaut...
My point was I hope they flesh out Colossus' character enough, so that he could fight Juggernaut and really have Colossus trying to save Xavier and the school, but just not quite able to. Would give him a really good dynamic of how he tires so hard and wants to save everyone (like how he wanted to stay and help Logan fight in X2).

And while I like Rogue and the idea of getting a partial amount of Juggernaut's super-strength, I don't want them just to use Juggernaut so Rogue can become some strong tear-'em-up character for one or two scenes.

[WalkingDead]

As am I. I have high hopes for Juggernaut.

I do as well...
I think if they nail the suit (and not on comic accuracy, I mean make it feel like Juggernaut exists as a real person with presence and power) he'll be able to fully give Juggy his due credit.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Well, I agree with you, WalkingDead, that I'd like the chance to see the REAL Colossus up there on the screen.

I mean, his cameo was awesome. I was mad when Wolverine said "Help them!"

I'm not as big a Colossus fan as I am of say... Gambit, or Beast, or Magneto. But I really like Colossus. I've stated in a previous thread, that in a way, Colossus COULD be the most emotional X-Men character, or one of them.

However, I just dunno if there's room for Colossus in this movie (and that's not something that I prefer to say).

We've already had Nightcrawler cut. We're introducing Beast, Angel, and there seems to be a struggle to get Gambit into the mix (and I very biasly think that it's a much higher priority to get Gambit in than Colossus)... I just don't know if there's gonna be enough room to flesh out Colossus the way we'd all like, as anything more than maybe just someone who tags along and fights in the background, if we even get that.

Rogue is already a character that's been established, and fans of Rogue are still trying to get a glimpse of the Rogue they all know and love. And, Rogue fans have just as much a right to see their favorite character brought to life as fans deserve to see Cyclops lead, Wolverine berserker out, and Gambit blow stuff up.

Again, I would love a chance to see Colossus fleshed out a bit. But, I don't think it's gonna happen, and I think it's a much easier, and better, solution, to give Rogue some temporary super strength to duke it out with Juggernaut for a bit, than to spend time fleshing out a new character just so he could fight Juggernaut for a bit.

[Colossal Spoons]

Juggy will be the first time we'll be seeing superstrength in the X-Movies. I'd love to see a good slugfest in X-3 so that leaves Colossus or Rogue to fight him. I really dislike Rogue's character and I don't think she's quite ready to absorb a villain as powerful as Juggy(unless X3 is set a few years in the future). I'd rather Colossus fight him but also to have a more developed character. My opinion is extremely biased because I'm a Colossus fanman.

I'm slowly starting to feel better about Vinie partially due to his role in Euro Trip. His rage is really on point. He's like a white Sam Jackson.

P.S. I don't see Gambit contributing much to the team in X3. He would just make for a more complicated love triangle with Rogue and Iceman.

[aaron]

the only problems i have are the facts that he seems to play the same role in every movie hes in, and that hes apparantly became a s*** since he became a moviestar

[spidey207]

I liked him in "Gone in 60 seconds", but I just flat like that movie so thats not saying much.

[aaron]

he didnt have much 2 do, nice fight scene. he didnt even say a word did he? i can remember

[spidey207]

Vinnie Jones movie career

Guns, Money and Homecooking
Tooth
Untitled Montecito Project
Hollywood Flies
Blast/Ultimatum
The Big Bounce
Night at the Golden Eagle (Released 2002)
The Mean Machine (Released 2001)
Swordfish (Released 2001)
Snatch (Released 2000)
Gone In 60 Seconds (Released 2000)
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (Released 1998)


I also thought he had a small role in Euro-trip but I could be wrong.

[spidey207]

He said something really intelligent and reflective at the end of the movie and he did it well. But you right. not much of a talking role, possibly like X3.

[Blade87]

I just hope they make him hella big and not short like they did with :thing:

[GNR]

Not too comfy with Vinnie playing Juggs.I thought he was cast because his buddy Vaughn was directing.If I had my way I would recast Juggs.But I doubt that;s gonna happen.

[WalkingDead]

I just hope they make him hella big and not short like they did with :thing:
Actually...since Thing was based on the 1961 designs of Thing, he's height was barely off...maybe 2-3 inches at most. The Thing later became the huge guy he is nowadays.

I imagine they'll do the same with Juggy...
Juggy was just under 7 ft. originally. He later became the 12 ft. monster of power he is most popularly known as.

[Blade87]

Actually...since Thing was based on the 1961 designs of Thing, he's height was barely off...maybe 2-3 inches at most. The Thing later became the huge guy he is nowadays.

I imagine they'll do the same with Juggy...
Juggy was just under 7 ft. originally. He later became the 12 ft. monster of power he is most popularly known as.
I think it would be better if they make him huge

[spidey207]

how about some Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut manips.

[WalkingDead]

how about some Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut manips.

Ooo...yes...that's a great idea, let's see some!

[PoSeiDon]

honestly, i dont kno much about the guy, this is the first time i really go with looks, he is skinny. so, are they going to do a body suit? prosthetics with cgi?? i hope they get into how they are going to pull him off, if they keep him in the script.

[Timstuff]

How tall is Jones anyway? If he's a litttle on the short side I suppose they could just give him elevator boots like they did with The Thing in Fantastic 4 (at least I heard he wears elevator boots, I haven't seen it though) however I'm still fairly concerned about his physical size, and wether or not he'll be able to give us that "Whoa, he's HUGE!" impression that we all want. Like in Raiders of the Lost Ark when that big Nazi fights Indy in front of the plane. I suppose he could be bulked up with lots of prosthetics if worst came to worst. Anyone have anything to comment about this?

[WalkingDead]

How tall is Jones anyway? If he's a litttle on the short side I suppose they could just give him elevator boots like they did with The Thing in Fantastic 4 (at least I heard he wears elevator boots, I haven't seen it though) however I'm still fairly concerned about his physical size, and wether or not he'll be able to give us that "Whoa, he's HUGE!" impression that we all want. Like in Raiders of the Lost Ark when that big Nazi fights Indy in front of the plane. I suppose he could be bulked up with lots of prosthetics if worst came to worst. Anyone have anything to comment about this?

Vinnie is 6' 2"...the original Juggernaut was only 6' 10".

Also..Rumors say that he'll have a 4-layer suit...that will beef him up a decent amount. Plus I imagine he'll work out enough to put a bit more mass to himself.

[Timstuff]

OK, good. Knowing he's 6' 2" automatically makes me much more confident, although I suspect if he's to be wearing a big suit they'll be using elevated footwear for him. As long has he has big ol' beefy arms, wether they're his own or prosthetics, and can stand at least a few inches taller than the main cast I'll be happy. Juggernaut needs to come across as being way bigger and tougher than any of the main X-Men, so as long as they do a good job with his training and costume design I think he should do a good job.

[WalkingDead]

OK, good. Knowing he's 6' 2" automatically makes me much more confident, although I suspect if he's to be wearing a big suit they'll be using elevated footwear for him. As long has he has big ol' beefy arms, wether they're his own or prosthetics, and can stand at least a few inches taller than the main cast I'll be happy. Juggernaut needs to come across as being way bigger and tougher than any of the main X-Men, so as long as they do a good job with his training and costume design I think he should do a good job.

I imagine they'll enlarge him digitally if the budget lets them, or they'll go with various forced-perspective tricks and camera angles if the budget doesn't allow the digital alterations.

I am confident they'll make Juggy big and strong...but the only fear is that when they do that, he'll become dumb and barely able to talk (which we all know is NOT how Caine is). I mean he ain't Beast, but he's not just some dumb idiot who can't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time either.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

how about some Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut manips.

I will make you sorry you asked!!!

Vinnie Jones:
http://lillen1326.homestead.com/files/vinniejones.jpg

Vinnie Jones as Cain Marko / Juggernaut:
http://lillen1326.homestead.com/files/vinnieasjugs1.jpg

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As you can tell, I'm not too great at this, I'm *REALLY* sorry about this.

[JP]

Ahh, yeah... err... anyways.

[Timstuff]

I will make you sorry you asked!!!

Vinnie Jones:
http://lillen1326.homestead.com/files/vinniejones.jpg

Vinnie Jones as Cain Marko / Juggernaut:
http://lillen1326.homestead.com/files/vinnieasjugs1.jpg

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As you can tell, I'm not too great at this, I'm *REALLY* sorry about this.

Here's some from the Manips thread. I have a feeling these will scare him away as well.

http://img115.echo.cx/img115/4149/x3juggernuts4ha.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Balthus/juggs.jpg

No offense to the fine chaps who made them! They just don't quite... Work for me.

[Corinthian™]

If anyone saw Locked, stocked and two smoking barrells and Snatch, you would agree with me

You have a GREAT Juggy...

[Corinthian™]

Bullet Tooth Tony: So, you are obviously the big dick. The men on the side of ya are your balls. There are two types of balls. There are big brave balls, and there are little mincey ****** balls.
Vinny: These are your last words, so make them a prayer.
Bullet Tooth Tony: Now, ***** have drive and clarity of vision, but they are not clever. They smell pussy and they want a piece of the action. And you thought you smelled some good old pussy, and have brought your two small mincey ****** balls along for a good old time. But you've got your parties mangled up. There's no pussy here, just a dose that'll make you wish you were born a woman. Like a prick, you are having second thoughts. You are shrinking, and your two little balls are shrinking with ya. The fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your gun. (withdraws his gun) And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point five O" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now... **** off.

that's badass... my favorite lines of the movie

[chamber-music]

People may say Vinnie lacks the physical appereance but he does have that bullying personna that cain seems to have.

[Octoberist]

How are they going to do his helmet without making him too stiff and bulky? I can't think of ways of doing it.

[Mister Sinister]

Vinnie Jones movie career

Guns, Money and Homecooking
Tooth
Untitled Montecito Project
Hollywood Flies
Blast/Ultimatum
The Big Bounce
Night at the Golden Eagle (Released 2002)
The Mean Machine (Released 2001)
Swordfish (Released 2001)
Snatch (Released 2000)
Gone In 60 Seconds (Released 2000)
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (Released 1998)
But we're not gonna hold that against him...:joker:

[Riggs15382]

Here's some from the Manips thread. I have a feeling these will scare him away as well.

http://img115.echo.cx/img115/4149/x3juggernuts4ha.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Balthus/juggs.jpg

No offense to the fine chaps who made them! They just don't quite... Work for me.

That top one is great. He just needs to be a little taller.

[spidey207]

What color do you think they will make his out fit. My guess is dark brown and black, nothing to extravagent.

[JP]

Im thinking a very dark brown. Maybe look like rusted metal.

[Mister Sinister]

For what it's worth, Vinnie has shaved his head bald. He's on the front page of a local newspaper over here.

[WalkingDead]

I would imagine IF Juggernaut gets an actual costume...Juggy's costume would be colored dark rust-red with some black and maybe a bit of brown.

Hell, honestly he might not even have a "Juggernaut" costume, he might be in some prisoner get-up, like just brown tore clothes or something like that if he is part of the prison break (which may or may not happen now).

[The Original Bamfer]

I would imagine IF Juggernaut gets an actual costume...Juggy's costume would be colored dark rust-red with some black and maybe a bit of brown.

Hell, honestly he might not even have a "Juggernaut" costume, he might be in some prisoner get-up, like just brown tore clothes or something like that if he is part of the prison break (which may or may not happen now).

I don't think they would write the jail break out, a lot of people found that one of the good things about the so-called-script. I think they'll leave it, if they do it will explain a lot. I'm sure he won't be in a jail get up the whole time, Magneto has to make a psyche-proof suit... or else he'd be down in one shot with the slightest pf psychics.

[Octoberist]

But I don't think that it'll be at The Rock in San Fran. I can't see them having the time to travel down over there, if they're in Canada. Of course, there's CGI and sets that can help, but I fear that it won't be convincing.

If they do have it, it would a fictional prison...I think

[Slim_X]

I think Vinnie's great for the role, he looks very intimidating :p

[heathm]

i like the idea of vinnie for the role i just wonder if they will use cgi to make him bigger (like 10 feet tall bigger) or just go with him being strong because i think it would be awsome to make him huge as long as it don't look cheesy. and i would love to see some more of collosus in x3 but no backstory, have a great entrance for him like he is the last chance to bring down juggy and have him change then before he can throw a puch he gets thrown back like 50 feet, that would be hilarious and nerve wrecking, plus that is how it would happen if this was real

[EnSabahNur]

i like the idea of vinnie for the role i just wonder if they will use cgi to make him bigger (like 10 feet tall bigger) or just go with him being strong because i think it would be awsome to make him huge as long as it don't look cheesy. and i would love to see some more of collosus in x3 but no backstory, have a great entrance for him like he is the last chance to bring down juggy and have him change then before he can throw a puch he gets thrown back like 50 feet, that would be hilarious and nerve wrecking, plus that is how it would happen if this was real YES you hit that colossus part right on the ball... we need something like that to show jugg's true power, plus bring back colo :D

[Slim_X]

I think a Cyclops and Colossus Vs. Juggernaut fight would be awesome.

[EnSabahNur]

yeah id like to see maybe gambit or beast in tehre aswell

[Octoberist]

I hope that they do make him slightly taller. He's 6'2 already, so give him some lifts to make him at least 6'4/6'5.

What bothered me about the Thing in F4 was that he was short. That's fine, but for some ODD reason, Tim Story would use low angles (esp on the bridge) to make him look 'taller'. But then he'll have scene where the he's walking with the group, and he's no taller than the yummy Jessica Alba. That's just a bad decision. Then why use the low angles in the first place? Film is a visual medium and practical effect can be made.

If they make Juggs look tall, they better not contridict itself like what Story did with the Thing.

[Joaqenix]

Hes obviously just going to be a Sabretooth/Lady Deathstrike part. Its painfully obvious. Hes the least famous actor in an already crowded movie. Besides, its not like Juggernaut is the most chatty of all mutants. I would be really, really surprised if he had much more of a part than Sabretooth.

I don't think we'll get any of the Juggernaut/Professor X connection.

[BMM]

But I don't think that it'll be at The Rock in San Fran. I can't see them having the time to travel down over there, if they're in Canada. Of course, there's CGI and sets that can help, but I fear that it won't be convincing.

If they do have it, it would a fictional prison...I think

A lot of posters are for the "jail break" scene, but it's the one that makes me the most nervous. It has the potential to be one of the best moments of the movie (if it remains intact) or the worst. I'm worried we're going to get some horribly stereotypical cheesy prison clip that serves as little more than a device from which to feature mutant cameos. If the scene remains, I hope they take their time with it, so it looks great . . . as well as serves as a meaningful plot device.

Yeah, I agree. Juggernaut will do little more than Sabretooth and Deathstrike did in the previous two films.

[The Original Bamfer]

I think he'll be involved in more fights though...

I'm thinking...

He should run through a large group of angry mutants on his way out of the prison... this would give a great opportunity for cameos (Unus, Cannonball, Gambit, Avalanche, Blob, Some morlocks and maybe even Emma Frost check the sig...) that wouldn't take over the film.

A short battle occurs when Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Wolverine and Iceman take on the raging crowd. Magneto steps in and its all over.

He hits a sentinel

He should next take on Colossus, Iceman, Beast and Shadowcat possibly with the help of Cannonball and/or Avalanche for an interesting fight.

He takes out another sentinel

Rogue can get some super human strength after she fights him when a brotherhood meeting goes wrong, she may even get some help from Gambit.

Bye bye yet another sentinel

He will then help out with the fight against Phoenix.



Just some ideas for his fights... They should all be fairly short, besides the Phoenix battle of course, but other than that he won't take up too much room but we will still get a good, um, taste of him.

[EnSabahNur]

me like bamf, very creative

[GoldGoblin]

I could see Juggernaut chasing Shadowcat and Shadowcat is going through walls as Juggernaut is breaking through them to get her.Then Shadowcat runs through Colossus and Jugernaut has a wall he can't break through(Colossus).

[EnSabahNur]

more creativity i like even more haha.. colossus would get tossed around by juggy but colo would put a decent fight up...

[JP]

I could see Juggernaut chasing Shadowcat and Shadowcat is going through walls as Juggernaut is breaking through them to get her.Then Shadowcat runs through Colossus and Jugernaut has a wall he can't break through(Colossus).


:up: :up:




The creative jiuces are flowing!

[GoldGoblin]

Magneto is on the city street and he picks up fifteen cars to throw at Cyclops and on the street behind Magneto Juggernaut goes charging at Iceman and Iceman freezes the ground underneath Juggernaut and Juggernaut falls on his face and goes sliding past Iceman and Juggernaut crashes into Magneto and Magneto and Juggernaut goes sliding underneath the cars right before they all come crashing on top of them.

[EnSabahNur]

ummmm the impact of juggernaut on magneto would kill him instantly not to mention hes sliding on top of the poor old man... and then the cars on top would help either... and im sure cyclops would throw a few beams in

[GoldGoblin]

ummmm the impact of juggernaut on magneto would kill him instantly not to mention hes sliding on top of the poor old man... and then the cars on top would help either... and im sure cyclops would throw a few beams in

^Or Juggernaut could go sliding past Magneto just bumping him a little causing Magneto too lose control of the cars,so the cars only land on top of Juggernaut.

[WalkingDead]

I hope that they do make him slightly taller. He's 6'2 already, so give him some lifts to make him at least 6'4/6'5.

If they make Juggs look tall, they better not contridict itself like what Story did with the Thing.

Well, with Sabretooth, the actor was 6' 9" and they made him become 7' 2" by the time all the makeup and lift-boots and everything else was put on him.
I imagine just a bit more extreme with Vinnie...like since he's 6' 2", they make him 6' 10" or so before it's over.

[JP]

ummmm the impact of juggernaut on magneto would kill him instantly not to mention hes sliding on top of the poor old man... and then the cars on top would help either... and im sure cyclops would throw a few beams in


LMAO... that seems funny to me.

Hahahahaha.

[WalkingDead]

^Or Juggernaut could go sliding past Magneto just bumping him a little causing Magneto too lose control of the cars,so the cars only land on top of Juggernaut.

If they keep it to the comics...that wouldn't work...Juggernaut can't be slid around on ice if he's running or walking, it's part of why he's called Juggernaut (an unstoppable force...and when in motion, Juggy can't be stopped by anything other than his own choice). He'd walk right over the ice, shattering it.

[EnSabahNur]

yeah thatd be a great way to kill of magneto... maybe a train crash for xavier... and a fatal std for cyclops.... this is what you get for doing it with the phoenix lol

[WalkingDead]

If Juggernaut's gonna have a fight I wanna see Logan try to bring him down and get his ass handed to him. Then several others try to jump into it to stop him.


But honestly I bet Cyclops will stop Juggy. He'll tear his visor off and obliterate him...even though in the comics that would do nothing by slow Juggy down and piss him off.

[JP]

Im sure Jean will dispose of him... after he is done tearing everyones arses up.

[EnSabahNur]

exactly follow the comics... xavier is gonna stop him some how you watch..

[GoldGoblin]

Wolverine faces Juggernaut and has his claws come out,but Juggernaut punches Wolverine in the face and Wolverine goes falling on his back and sliding on the ground with his elbows on the ground but his forarms are sticking up along with his claws.And Wolverine goes sliding under some Brotherhood mutant's legs and Wolverines's claws slash the mutant's groin.

[mutant]

Has anyone been to Vinnie's website? It's the funniest thing I've ever seen LOOOOL

http://www.vinniejones.co.uk/

Hello! I'm Vinnie Jones and you've found my website.
I've tried to keep the site upto date, but I have a pretty busy filming schedule
and it's not always that easy getting these things done.
Busy is not the word! Where does the time go, I don't know.
Vinnie is in Canada filming 'She's The Man' which is produced by Dreamworks, Directed by Andy Fickman and stars Amanda Bynes (Robots). It is based on Shakespeare's Twelfth Night but with a modern twist. (now seriously, am I the only one who finds it funny that he's doing a movie with Amanda Bynes? I just couldn't stop laughing when I read that).
And here are some funny quotes from Snatch:
Avi: Should I call you Bullet? Tooth?
Bullet Tooth Tony: You can call me Susan if it makes you happy.

Bullet Tooth Tony: You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

Avi: Tony.
Bullet Tooth Tony: What?
Avi: Look in the dog.
Bullet Tooth Tony: What do you mean, "Look in the dog"?
Avi: I mean open him up.
Bullet Tooth Tony: It's not a ****ing tin of baked beans! What do you mean "open him up"?

Bullet Tooth Tony: Avi, pull your socks up.

Mullet: What are you doing Tony?
Bullet Tooth Tony: Driving with you head stuck in my window. What do you think I'm doing?
[Bullet Tooth Tony is driving down the street with Mullet's head stuck in his window]
Tommy: You 'bin usin' dog **** fer toothpaste, Mullet?
Bullet Tooth Tony: [Madonna's "Lucky Star" comes on on the radio] Oh, I love this track.

[Ratcrawler]

now seriously, am I the only one who finds it funny that he's doing a movie with Amanda Bynes? I just couldn't stop laughing when I read that).

You'll laugh yourself into an early grave if she winds up playing Shadowcat in X3! She probably won't, but...still.

[mutant]

now seriously, am I the only one who finds it funny that he's doing a movie with Amanda Bynes? I just couldn't stop laughing when I read that).

You'll laugh yourself into an early grave if she winds up playing Shadowcat in X3! She probably won't, but...still.

I guess I just find it funny that a guy as tough as Vinnie would star in teen comedies like this one or Eurotrip.
I've never seen him in anything and I don't know anything about his acting, but I don't think that matters because he's always playing himself anyway.
He sounds like a funny guy and like Vaughn said, he has a REALLY HUGE HEAD!
He should be doing movies with Tarantino lol

[Timstuff]

A big head could mean that he'd look less akward wearing prosthetic muscles. Hmm...

[psylockolussus]

I hope Vinnie Jones would do a great job, I want to see a Juggernaut VS Colossus scene.

[Carmine Falcone]

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/1254/storyboards1lo.jpg

[Ratcrawler]

I preferred Cyclops' bulkier visor simply because that beam of his is so damn powerful.

Say, for a teamwork element, Juggernaut is moving down the street towards some vulnerable target. Storm tries to blow him away with gail force winds, but he barely slows down. Then she tries to suck him up in a twister but he simply won't get off the ground. Finally, Cyclops jumps down into a manhole. A moment later we see his optic blast explode up through the street beneath Juggs and send him up into the air. No longer on Terra Firma, he gets caught in Storm's twister and is flung far off into the ocean. At the end of the film, when the credits finish rolling, he wades up out of the ocean onto dry land.

[spidey207]

I preferred Cyclops' bulkier visor simply because that beam of his is so damn powerful.

Say, for a teamwork element, Juggernaut is moving down the street towards some vulnerable target. Storm tries to blow him away with gail force winds, but he barely slows down. Then she tries to suck him up in a twister but he simply won't get off the ground. Finally, Cyclops jumps down into a manhole. A moment later we see his optic blast explode up through the street beneath Juggs and send him up into the air.

That is a sweet idea, great visual. Not sure about the last part though, with him being washed ashore.

[Zues4Life]

I hope that Vinnie Jones does a good job as the Juggernaut.


Can someone post a picture of Vinnie Jones.

[WalkingDead]

I hope that Vinnie Jones does a good job as the Juggernaut.


Can someone post a picture of Vinnie Jones.

Um...check back on Page two of this Thread for some pics. The pics are like a bit pass halfway down.

[Zues4Life]

Okay.:)

[Zues4Life]

Just looked at the pictures and Vinnie looks really crazy.Perfect choice for Cain Marko/The Juggernaut.:D

[JP]

My thoughts exactly. He's very intimidating.

[Pauluz]

Last night i saw Mean Machine and I have to say, he's not a bad actor, AT ALL!

[Octoberist]

I don't get why people think that Vinnie is a bad actor. He might be a tad one note, but he's good.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't get why people think that Vinnie is a bad actor. He might be a tad one note, but he's good.

It's because Vinnie Jones isn't 12' tall, and however many pounds Juggernaut is, and the size of a ****ing tank, so he's a miscast.

[JP]

Vinnie isn't 10 ft tall.
Ian isn't strong.
Hugh isn't short.
Anna isn't hot enough.
Kelsey isn't young.
Ben isn't handsome enough.

Need I go on? Or have you all realized how imature your statments about the characters are? No? Oh well. There only a few more months left I'll have to deal with it.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Vinnie isn't 10 ft tall.
Ian isn't strong.
Hugh isn't short.
Anna isn't hot enough.
Kelsey isn't young.
Ben isn't handsome enough.

Well... I still stand by my opinion that Ben Foster looks *NOTHING* like Angel.

But then again, I haven't really ranted about it either, like some people have.

I stated my piece, that I don't think this is the best casting, but also admitted that I can't make a true judgment until I see the movie.

Either way, you are right. People really need to chill on the small ****.

[Slim_X]

I think it would be cool too to have Rogue steal his powers, kinda like that episode in X-Men Evolution, then she'll finally be able to kick some ass... some Juggernaut ass. We haven't seen her fight anyone and if this is the last movie I wanna see her fight! :mad:

[JP]

:( All I want is some ass kicking... pweeeeez?

[Mister Sinister]

Vinnie Jones is on Extras on BBC 2 tonight I believe.

[Ions]

Vinnie is one menacing looking c**t. Hopefully he gets as much screentime as Pyro did in X-2. Be interesting to see what design they go with for Juggernaut. I want a large domed helmet, rather than a Robocop style headgear.

[EnSabahNur]

i want to see the juggernaut from evolution... vinni could pull that off easily, and it looks cool too!

[EnSabahNur]

http://x-men.toonzone.net/gallery/images/32-04.jpg
http://x-men.toonzone.net/gallery/images/32-19.jpg
http://x-men.toonzone.net/gallery/images/32-18.jpg
http://x-men.toonzone.net/gallery/images/32-29.jpg

[Lightning Strykez!]

^^^ Yeah, that would work. :up:

We'll see.

[JP]

I just realized how much Vinnie looks like Juggernaut. Well the evolution version anyway.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I just realized how much Vinnie looks like Juggernaut. Well the evolution version anyway.

One of my issues of Uncanny that Juggernaut is in (#334), Juggernaut takes off his helment, and I swear it looks like Vinnie Jones.

[Electrix]

Maybe the reason they cast Vinnie was because he looked liked Juggernaut?...lol

[JP]

Maybe the reason they cast Vinnie was because he looked liked Juggernaut?...lol

:eek:

[The Guard]

I can see the screentests now.

"We want you to put on this helmet"

(Several people emerge, holding a massive Juggernaut helmet)

[Ions]

They cast him because hes a menacing c**t! With that big ass head. Perfect for Juggernaut. Hopefully they go liberal with the amount of destruction Juggernaut causes. Be funny watching him walk casually through buildings on the way to do something. Like it was just an everyday event.

Also I think they should use the same sort of device they used in Evo to restrain Juggernaut, to explain why Magneto needs to rescue him from Jail. It's the only way to explain it. If the jails use chemicals/machines and what not to keep the mutants unconscious. Also be good if Magneto thinks Juggernaut will help him. But Juggernaut just uses Magneto to get free then goes and does his own thing. :xmen: I really hope they don't tone down Juggernaut so hes just a mutant and is 'one' with the brotherhood. :marv: :down

[spidey207]

I hope early on it appears appears Juggy in "one" w/ the Brotherhood but it turns out he has a hidden agenda which is to get back at Prof. X. sometime in the 3rd Act.

[Mister Sinister]

http://x-men.toonzone.net/gallery/images/32-29.jpg
Is it wierd that I think Rogue from Evolution is hotter than a human?

[spidey207]

Its true, Anna Paquin or whatever was possibly the worst possible choice for Rogue. She(especially for a actress) is plain ugly or at least unattractive. worst choice for Rogue possible, except maybe Queen Latifa.

[JP]

^^ Not at all. Its perfectly natural.

*goes to watch Evolution*




EDIT: Anna is anything but ugly. Buncha haters.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Its true, Anna Paquin or whatever was possibly the worst possible choice for Rogue. She(especially for a actress) is plain ugly or at least unattractive. worst choice for Rogue possible, except maybe Queen Latifa.

WHAT?! [/liljon]

Anna Paquin is far from ugly, far from unattractive. Anna Paquin is a very beautiful girl, I'd love if I had a girlfriend as good looking as her.

[MoiBijou]

I'm a girl and I have to say Anna is pretty... not an AMAZING beauty, but she looks fine...

But tough I hate Rogue, I have to say the Evo cartoon is hotter than her... :D

[Leon the Professional]

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/1254/storyboards1lo.jpg[/QUOTE]

That would be much cooler if Juggernaut ran right thru Cyclops' optic blast. Cyke would really have to take off his visor and use a full-power unfiltered blast to slow/stop Juggs.

[JP]

Looking at that picture makes me feel bad for poor Cyke. Juggernaut knocked the beams right out of him. Poor guy.

[Electrix]

Looking at that picture makes me feel bad for poor Cyke. Juggernaut knocked the beams right out of him. Poor guy.

Juggernaut would knock the beams out of almost everyone. Wolverine, Iceman, Beast, Angel....anyone of them would go flying.

[liverlips]

Here's the Jughead scenario I have in mind:
Back at the mansion, Colossus is the first line of defense and he puts up a good fight, but we know what the outcome will be. The music gets somber when he hits the floor and reverts back to flesh.
The rest of the team has held off for fear of hitting the wrong guy; now Cyclops and Storm jump in as the others form a shield around the Professor.
They both manage to take the big guy off his feet, but he just bounces back up and plods forward. He finally gets Cyke in a bearhug and squeezes until you hear bones popping (nobody realizes yet that he's a goner...they were going to bump him off anyway, right?).
Storm gets ***** slapped and we're out two more X-Men. Knowing he's protected by his helmet, Jugs heads straight for lil' brother. He scatters the remaining members by hurling furniture and then has a short chat with Chuck, before crushing his windpipe.
This causes the misfits to throw caution to the wind and work as a team (for once) to bring the big guy down. Wolverine spears him in the eyeholes and is immediately KO'd in the process. A blind Marko staggers around as Iceman puts the big freeze on him. Immobilized, Beast leaps on his back, removes his helmet, lands some cheap shots and hops away just as Cain shatters the ice. Meantime, Rogue soaks up a still unconscious Colossus' power and transforms into metal. Jugs hears her coming and swings at the air, but she waits for the right moment and manages to catch him on the jaw. With Juggernaut dazed, she grabs on to his arm and drains his juice until there's nothing but a shrunken corpse inside the armor.
I thought having her be the hero would lead nicely into the X-kids spinoff.
That's it...not as exciting as Ali/Frazier, but I think it'll do.

[Will]

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/1254/storyboards1lo.jpg

That would be much cooler if Juggernaut ran right thru Cyclops' optic blast. Cyke would really have to take off his visor and use a full-power unfiltered blast to slow/stop Juggs.
Where did you get those storyboards? They from X3's preliminary stuff?

[JP]

Where did you get those storyboards? They from X3's preliminary stuff?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187191

:)

[Will]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187191

:)
Ah I see.

[WalkingDead]

Here's the Jughead scenario I have in mind:
Back at the mansion, Colossus is the first line of defense and he puts up a good fight, but we know what the outcome will be. The music gets somber when he hits the floor and reverts back to flesh.
The rest of the team has held off for fear of hitting the wrong guy; now Cyclops and Storm jump in as the others form a shield around the Professor.
They both manage to take the big guy off his feet, but he just bounces back up and plods forward. He finally gets Cyke in a bearhug and squeezes until you hear bones popping (nobody realizes yet that he's a goner...they were going to bump him off anyway, right?).
Storm gets ***** slapped and we're out two more X-Men. Knowing he's protected by his helmet, Jugs heads straight for lil' brother. He scatters the remaining members by hurling furniture and then has a short chat with Chuck, before crushing his windpipe.
This causes the misfits to throw caution to the wind and work as a team (for once) to bring the big guy down. Wolverine spears him in the eyeholes and is immediately KO'd in the process. A blind Marko staggers around as Iceman puts the big freeze on him. Immobilized, Beast leaps on his back, removes his helmet, lands some cheap shots and hops away just as Cain shatters the ice. Meantime, Rogue soaks up a still unconscious Colossus' power and transforms into metal. Jugs hears her coming and swings at the air, but she waits for the right moment and manages to catch him on the jaw. With Juggernaut dazed, she grabs on to his arm and drains his juice until there's nothing but a shrunken corpse inside the armor.
I thought having her be the hero would lead nicely into the X-kids spinoff.
That's it...not as exciting as Ali/Frazier, but I think it'll do.

I like your scenario for the most part...like the Colossus, Storm, and Cyclops bits.
A few things I don't like are:
Wolverine has tried to pierce Juggernaut's eyes before and they are like the rest of him, pretty much invulnerable. But for the movies, it's no big deal and could work out.
The problem is that Rogue has never been able to do much more than make Juggy dizzy from trying to drain him. She always passed out or went crazy from draining him while Juggy staggers a bit and then recomposes himself shortly afterwards.
Unless they severely cut Juggy's powers down, he's not gonna go out like you've proposed. Also it is pointless to kill off Juggernaut IMHO, but they could.

It's about a half and half mix there...if they make Juggernaut weaker than his comics version, this isn't a bad road to go down.

[liverlips]

Thanks, Walking Dead.

I heard this may be the last of the series, so I thought a few violent deaths would be in order. I haven't read the comics in over twenty-five years (the movies have unleashed the kid inside), so I'm sure you know more about these guys than I do. I think they probably will tweak Juggernaut's power a bit and make him more vulnerable...otherwise I don't think anyone could take him out(maybe the Professor?).
I hope they decide to have Juggs hunt Xavier down on his own and build the tension like a horror movie. The school gates could be ripped open as he stands in the moonlight, calling Chuck out. Colossus could rush out the door and try to keep the fight outside, while Cyke and Storm follow him as backup. The rest of the mutants could nervously watch the fight from the upstairs window while they guard Prof.X. They could play "Psycho" strings (weee weee weee) when Cain gets past the first three and bursts into the mansion.
Move over, Freddie and Jason.

[WalkingDead]

Thanks, Walking Dead.

I heard this may be the last of the series, so I thought a few violent deaths would be in order. I haven't read the comics in over twenty-five years (the movies have unleashed the kid inside), so I'm sure you know more about these guys than I do. I think they probably will tweak Juggernaut's power a bit and make him more vulnerable...otherwise I don't think anyone could take him out(maybe the Professor?).
I hope they decide to have Juggs hunt Xavier down on his own and build the tension like a horror movie. The school gates could be ripped open as he stands in the moonlight, calling Chuck out. Colossus could rush out the door and try to keep the fight outside, while Cyke and Storm follow him as backup. The rest of the mutants could nervously watch the fight from the upstairs window while they guard Prof.X. They could play "Psycho" strings (weee weee weee) when Cain gets past the first three and bursts into the mansion.
Move over, Freddie and Jason.

Cool...I could like that a lot if done right.

I'm sure they'll weaken Juggernaut a bit, they practically have to, well not really.
I fully believe Phoenix will destroy Juggy in the end, after he does his thing for a few scenes.

[EnSabahNur]

juggernaut wont die... and neither will x3 be the last... you wait x4 will be fullpacked with morlocks, sentinels a huge brotherhood with: magneto, mystique, toad, pyro, sabretooth, juggernaut, avalanche, quicksilver, scarlet witch and blob... imajin the physicle power theyd throw to the xmen with juggy and blob workiing together...m 8id be blown away....

[WalkingDead]

juggernaut wont die... and neither will x3 be the last... you wait x4 will be fullpacked with morlocks, sentinels a huge brotherhood with: magneto, mystique, toad, pyro, sabretooth, juggernaut, avalanche, quicksilver, scarlet witch and blob... imajin the physicle power theyd throw to the xmen with juggy and blob workiing together...m 8id be blown away....

By "destroy"...I meant kick his ass, not kill.

[JP]

juggernaut wont die... and neither will x3 be the last... you wait x4 will be fullpacked with morlocks, sentinels a huge brotherhood with: magneto, mystique, toad, pyro, sabretooth, juggernaut, avalanche, quicksilver, scarlet witch and blob... imajin the physicle power theyd throw to the xmen with juggy and blob workiing together...m 8id be blown away....

God forbid.

[EnSabahNur]

your a bully jp

[JP]

:0 :( :p

[EnSabahNur]

:'(

[The Geek Vault]

I always loved Juggernaut.
He was always cool to me with the suit. Do people think he'll where the helmet. I'd like to see it but idk if it would work without being dopy. Also is vinny jones going to be in a suit. I mean Juggernaut's supposed to be huge like bigger than mand big. Also does anyone know if there are any decent action figures of him?
Also if anyone played Wolverines revenge is it just me of did juggernaut sound scottish? He was way better in Next Dimension. I loved his third suit in that the white one looked like a storm trooper.

[BluShaypeShyfte]

Really, I didnt know that. What a spoiler! Man, that totally ruined the movie for me! Oh, wait, let me go make a post about this post. Everyone needs to know this info! Great find! So informative!

[Endeavor]

Play nice Blu

marvelman, there is a thread dedicated to all info on Juggernaut/Vinnie Jones.
You might find some answers to your questions there.

[TheDeafGuy]

yea man, I didn't know that the Juggs guy was goin to be in the sequel!!! wait...does this mean that Xavier has a brother...? umm....hmmmmm

[The Geek Vault]

Where's the thread for the other one.
Sorry for making this new one.

[Endeavor]

Here you go:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188730

[The Geek Vault]

YAY! Anyway, in the movie do u guys want to see Juggernaut with the helmet with angel wipping it off. Or Wolverine stabbing his eyes out with Juggernaut saying "not the helmet" or something totally new. PS anyone know anygood action figures of Juggernaut.

[TNC9852002]

There's a nice Marvel Legends figure of Juggernaut...

I've got one and it's pretty cool...Too bad I lost his helmet and I haven't found it yet.. :(

-TNC

[EnSabahNur]

There's a nice Marvel Legends figure of Juggernaut...

I've got one and it's pretty cool...Too bad I lost his helmet and I haven't found it yet.. :(

-TNC that might be a good thing, now all your other action figures have a chance of stopping him!

[The Geek Vault]

Here's some from the Manips thread. I have a feeling these will scare him away as well.

http://img115.echo.cx/img115/4149/x3juggernuts4ha.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Balthus/juggs.jpg

No offense to the fine chaps who made them! They just don't quite... Work for me. The fiirst one is good color but the helmet is too small. I think Vinnie should where a suit so he looks bigger. The helmet is crucial I think. I love that dopey lookin thing.

[The Geek Vault]

Is it Juggernaut or Juggernauts?

[EnSabahNur]

Juggernaut my friend, forever fear him

[Holly Goodhead]

those manips suck my ass. :( i hope hes hot in this movie..

[Octoberist]

actually the second pic of Juggs isn't that bad..

[TNC9852002]

It isn't that good either... :p

-TNC

[The Geek Vault]

I want to see the helmet so bad.

[aaron]

yeah lol, i hope it doesnt turn out to be ****

[Genosha]

Has anybody heard about whether or not they are going to make Vinnie look bigger via prosthetics?

I would hate for them to use too much CGI. Maybe use the camera to make him look bigger a la the techniques used in LOTR.

[Octoberist]

Tim Story made many contridictions by using camera angles to make The Thing look bigger.

THere were several shots of The Thing from a low angle, making him look bigger than he actually is (bridge scene). The problem is that there's several other medium shots of him standing/walking with the other teammates, and he looks small.

For example, when he was walking with Jessica Alba after the ESPN scene, he was as tall as her and it was done in an eye level view of the two actors. It just ruins the illusion.

I'm hoping that Ratner will be more consistent with this effect.

[Genosha]

Tim Story made many contridictions by using camera angles to make The Thing look bigger.

THere were several shots of The Thing from a low angle, making him look bigger than he actually is. The problem is that there's several medium shots of him with the other teammates, and he looks small; for example, when he was walking with Jessica Alba after the ESPN scene, he was as tall as her. It just ruins it.

I'm hoping that Ratner will be more consistent with this effect.

Yeah, I noticed that too. That's why Ratner should take a look at what Peter Jackson did with the angles. He was very good at making certain characters look bigger and smaller without CGI.

I wouldn't mind a make-up job on Vinnie similiar to Mr. Hyde from LXG. The movie wasn't very good, but I thought they did an excellent job on that character visually.

[Octoberist]

They did a decent job on Hyde. More so than the Hyde in...Van Helsing.

[TNC9852002]

I hear that they're giving Vinnie Jones a 60lb suit,...I'm not sure if it'll be full body like Thing/Chiklis'....I don't know how big they're going to be making him either..

-TNC

[Electrix]

http://www.mirrorprintstore.co.uk/previewimage.php?mediaid=63047&mediatype=2....

[JP]

He's got Juggernaut written all over him.

[_BB_]

For everyone in the UK, Vinnie Jones is on Ricky gervais' new comedy "Extras" tonight on BBC2 along side Ross Kemp (basically the two hard men of british telly)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extras/

I cant believe how big Ricky has made himself in the USA to get all these guest stars but he deserves it anyway :)

I found this:
"A bigger risk (and I say this on the basis of seeing only one programme, featuring Ross Kemp) is that the stars appear as themselves, but then assume another persona. In Kemp's case, he tries to impress Gervais (who plays Andy Millman, a lowly extra on the film set) by acting the hard man. Then he's confronted by Vinnie Jones, who's also playing himself, and is shown up as a snivelling softie."

As always, vinnie is playing the real hard man :D

[Jan Irisi]

http://www.mirrorprintstore.co.uk/previewimage.php?mediaid=63047&mediatype=2....

He scares me..............

[JP]

Thats a good thing.

[Super_Child]

He's just, an Ard Bastard is Vinnie.

[_BB_]

be very afraid...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/abbylei/vinnie.bmp

Sort of his signature thing lol

You got to love Vinnie :D

[JP]

I can picture him doing that to Hugh.

[Jan Irisi]

be very afraid...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/abbylei/vinnie.bmp

Sort of his signature thing lol

You got to love Vinnie :D

Okaaaaaaaaay.................so who gets that "treatment" in the film? Oh wait, kids in the audience..............naw.

[The Geek Vault]

Will he have brass knuckles.

[The Geek Vault]

What color should his costume be red or black?

[JP]

Im thinking rusty metal.

[The Geek Vault]

Has anyone played X-men: Next Dimension if so does anyone know what the third Juggernaut suit is from (the white one with the red stripe)?

[spidey207]

Will he have brass knuckles.

I hope so, it would make him more realistic in that the brass knuckles help him punch through walls and *****.

[Ions]

I hope so, it would make him more realistic in that the brass knuckles help him punch through walls and *****.If Juggernaut needs assistance to break through walls...then there is something seriously wrong with the movie version of him. :spidey:

[TNC9852002]

Pfft...I don't think Bryan Singer would think that an unstoppable behemoth would require some wimpy brass knuckles to break through crap and neither would I...

It would be all for show if he were to have some...Hmm...They'll probably just give him some finger gloves or something..

-TNC

[The Original Bamfer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/CRAZYllama07/VinniJ.jpg

A real tough guy

[WalkingDead]

Pfft...I don't think Bryan Singer would think that an unstoppable behemoth would require some wimpy brass knuckles to break through crap and neither would I...

-TNC

DAMN RIGHT!!

[JP]

Mess with teddy and you're toast!

[_BB_]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/CRAZYllama07/VinniJ.jpg

A real tough guy

LMAO!! Poor Pudsy Bear :(

[The Geek Vault]

ANyone know where I can get a Juggernaut aim buddy icon? I really want one?

[Ballistic Liz]

I think he looks perfect looks wise, but I'm not sure about the size.

Sure Hellboy looked great in his suit, but Ron P. seems to be made to be dressed up like that and is comfortable like that aka Beauty and the Beast tv show and other stuff.

But I didn't really like The Thing that much. I'm crossing my fingers and toes that Jug's will look and act good.

[TNC9852002]

The Thing and Hellboy's makeup are like night and day, but I think I know what you're saying...

Also, it's also good to see how much Xavier and Vinnie resemble facially...They look almost close enough to be a little bit more convincing than just half-brothers..

-TNC

[Ballistic Liz]

The Thing and Hellboy's makeup are like night and day, but I think I know what you're saying...

Also, it's also good to see how much Xavier and Vinnie resemble facially...They look almost close enough to be a little bit more convincing than just half-brothers..

-TNC

Plus to me that is another reason why it was best that a British guy was cast, to make to feel/sound more like those two could be related. I REALLY REALLY hope they do something interesting with that.

Super-thug Sabretooth in X-Men 1 I don't want to see again.


I know the two are night and day, but a real boxer/fighter tends to move more like one than an actor, experience and all. If your not used to wearing a big thing like a space suit you'll look like it.

Then agian I always did have a weird crush on Ron Pearlman... Vincent was hot!!! :up:

[Exabyte]

Vinnie is bad ass.

[The Geek Vault]

IDEA

In the movie verse maybe Juggernaut is the one who breaks Charles Xaviers spine causing him to be paralized.

[TNC9852002]

^Hmmm...In the movie-verse, that would be interesting...

-TNC

[spidey207]

IDEA

In the movie verse maybe Juggernaut is the one who breaks Charles Xaviers spine causing him to be paralized.

wow,that would work so well. It could be a flashback and after he paralyzes Xavier, the proffesor would phycically attack him and end up putting him away in the prison that magneto frees him from. I like it.

[JP]

That would work really nicely.

[EnSabahNur]

i still think that Cain Marko who hates his brother starts beating charles, this is the point where charles first gets his powers, Charles does something to Cain that totaly disrupts his mind.... bringing up his greatest fears, making him go crazy untill he falls unconcious.... since charles has only just developed his powers that second, his body and mind wasnt use to that much of a change and with that big of a mental outburst something happens to his spine that makes him crippled....
Cain is in some sort of secret mental facility the goverment runs, cain is there healing from the incedent, the goverment volunteers cain as a mutant killing experiment they give him ultimate strength and invulnerability.... as he awakens he is pissed, he goes on a rampage throughout the facility (a experiment gone wrong) nothing in there can stop him, he escapes with one thought in mind, to kill charles...
knowing his brother is a telepathic mutant cain knows he cant do anything without being protected from psychic abilities, he comes across magneto and asks for his help, magneto creates a helmet, much like his owne that enables psychic powers from affecting him, cain becomes the juggernaut...
Juggernaut is in a battle with the x-men (at the time Cyclops Jean and Storm) they stand no chance against him he is tossing them around and it seems like theres no chance when he grabs cyclops and about to kill him jean outbursts in power, you see a minor scale of what the phoenix can do as she blasts juggernaut back with basicly everything shes tossing at him with telekenesis some how it shows her stopping the Juggernaut in his tracks and sends him flying into an ocean or something, all the x-men are unconcious coinsedentaly so they didnt see the power from jean.... she collapses from the power and falls unconcious, You see a glimpse of xavier at the mansion and a feared look on his face...

^those would be flashback scenes of juggernaut^

Opening scene, Juggernaut is rampaging through a city the same city that the worthington mansion is in, Angel contacts the Xavier (his old friend) for help to stop juggernaut (you dont get a good glimpse of angel so you dont really know its him) Xavier refers to him as Warren on the phone...the x-men are sent out to stop him (Wolverine storm cyclops and iceman (newly added)) they split up trying to find him through the city, you get to see team work in the works... Cyclops seees juggernaut and juggernaut atacks him (like the story board) then while cyclops is on the ground juggernaut runs for him again but cyclops is saved be some person with angelic wings, you only get a back view.... now the audience is in there feet, who is this guy with wings?.... now wolverine jumps for Juggernaut andcovers juggs eyes with his hands, Juggernaut tries shaking him off while he stomps around, Iceman freezes the ground below him and juggernaut slipps and falls on his bottum as the earth shakesand buildings start to crumble.... wolverine jumps off and you see storm wolverine and Iceman standing beside each other then angel lands beside them with cyclops in his arms... cyclops gets up and speaks "ready x-men" and they battle juggernaut, at one point juggernaut runs for Iceman and icemans "ice ups" to stop the blow from juggernaut, Iceman goes flying into a wall but is ok from the protective ice... that one was for the iceman fans :D... anyway the xmen manage to stop Juggernaut somehow and the xmen leave as juggernaut is taken away by special goverment team and take him away to the mutant prison...
When Juggernaut is freed by magneto i want magneto to say something like "We meet again Cain" Juggernaut is in some cell that cant be affected by his Juggernauts strength... Juggernaut is banging on the walls and magneto just grins "have a proposition to make, I will help you get revenge against your brother if you accompany my brotherhood of mutants and help me with my goal... juggernaut agrees and magneto releases him, juggernaut rampages through the jail breaking out mutants and destroying all in his way....

those are a few scenes i thought of about juggernaut...... i think it would be cool but thats my opinion

[HCpride]

http://mutantvault.xmenlegends2.com/assets/juggernaut_517_thumb.jpg

also,gambit wont be a good guy, he will be a thug for magneto

[JP]

^^ That was once my wallpaper.

[WalkingDead]

^^ That was once my wallpaper.
Awesome...got a link for others?

[JP]

http://mutantvault.xmenlegends2.com/index.php

[WalkingDead]

http://mutantvault.xmenlegends2.com/index.php
Thank you good sir or madame as the case may be.

[JP]

:mad:

Sir.


:)

[TNC9852002]

...

...
those are a few scenes i thought of about juggernaut...... i think it would be cool but thats my opinion
Your flashback was okay, but,...the opening scene...I wasn't very fond of...It didn't really make a whole lot of sense..

-TNC

[spidey207]

great pic.

[Endeavor]

:mad:

Sir.


:)

:eek: Since when?!!!!!!


I kid i kid, lol. :p

[JP]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif Since when?!!!!!!


I kid i kid, lol. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

[TNC9852002]

Another poorly drawn picture of my Juggernaut: :p

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9109/scan175august0220050si.jpg

-TNC

[Will]

Another poorly drawn picture of my Juggernaut: :p

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9109/scan175august0220050si.jpg

-TNC
Looks good mang.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah,..the only addition/difference this time around is that I put in these metal neck bands, or braces with latches on the top of them so that they can connect with his helmet once he has it all the way on..I also add a few rivets on the helmet and additional side room for his ears...

It's basically a modified variation of the combination of this look:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2401/juggernaut27rp.gif

and movie Magneto:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0412/13/magnetoth.jpg

-TNC

[JP]

Thats pretty good.

[Will]

Yeah,..the only addition/difference this time around is that I put in these metal neck bands, or braces with latches on the top of them so that they can connect with his helmet once he has it all the way on..I also add a few rivets on the helmet and additional side room for his ears...

It's basically a modified variation of the combination of this look:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2401/juggernaut27rp.gif

and movie Magneto:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0412/13/magnetoth.jpg

-TNC
Nice attention to detail on the helmet.

I would prefer the comic dome and it's probably not happening so I could accept the designs in your sketch and the helmet he wore there at the time (isn't that his underhelmet?).

Magneto's helmets so far have been pretty well designed but I wasn't too crazy about the upwards "M" that's around it in X2. I was hoping for a bit more design and some color in the lining like the comic one but otherwise I'm interested in Magneto/Juggernaut's modified new looks and if Magneto will make Juggernaut's helmet using the same psychic blocking properties.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, I know...The dome issue...

Like we've seen again and again, the comic dome doesn't seem to work very well on a visual level due to the fact that Juggernaut's abnormal body proportions in the comic are the reason why it looks good on paper and I think it's safe to assume that Vinnie's body proportions won't be changing a whole lot from the neck up...Eh...Who knows what they'll put him in..

And yeah,..Magneto's helmet seems to be evolving from film to film...I'm curious to see how they decide to modify it this time around...

-TNC

[Endeavor]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif


Aww, you know I'm kidding. ;)

[Carmine Falcone]

i wonder if we'll get to see him beat someone up with a dildo...:o

I kinda doubt that...

[TNC9852002]

WTF? :eek:

-TNC

[spidey207]

I'm not sure, but probobly not.

[WalkingDead]

i wonder if we'll get to see him beat someone up with a dildo...:o
WTF?!
I mean seriously where the fudge did this come from?

[Angry Sentinel]

i wonder if we'll get to see him beat someone up with a dildo...:o Are we to assume that Vinnie Jones has used a dildo...:o in a menacing way before?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Timstuff]

So, does anyone have any idea how they are going to convey Juggernaut's "bigness" in the movie? I have three theories.

1. They will use prosthetic "puppet" limbs over Jones' real ones, and he'll be wearing some kind of elevated footware that will give him big feet and make him a few inches taller. Basically, think "Mr Hyde" from League of Extrordinary Gentlement except, well... Good.

2. They'll use forced perspective to make him look bigger, but I don't know how much this would be good for because his proportions would still be rather normal looking.

3. They'll use CGI, and either they'll replace his whole body except for his head which will be "matted on" somehow, or they whole thing will be CG like the Hulk and Jones will just provide the voice, likeness, and motion capture for the movement and face.

There's also a fourth option that I'm really hoping isnt on the table, and that's that they just plain don't try to make him look like the comic version. Hopefully that's not the case though.

[TNC9852002]

Definitely #1 and #2...

-TNC

[JP]

Yeah... 1 and 2.

[spidey207]

They will use all 3. the CGI would only be for wide shots. I'm thinking(& hoping) that its mainly prosthetics.

[Octoberist]

Kind of how did they did with that bearded giant fellow in the Harry Potter films. That's how they should do Juggs.

[WalkingDead]

So, does anyone have any idea how they are going to convey Juggernaut's "bigness" in the movie? I have three theories.

1. They will use prosthetic "puppet" limbs over Jones' real ones, and he'll be wearing some kind of elevated footware that will give him big feet and make him a few inches taller. Basically, think "Mr Hyde" from League of Extrordinary Gentlement except, well... Good.

2. They'll use forced perspective to make him look bigger, but I don't know how much this would be good for because his proportions would still be rather normal looking.

3. They'll use CGI, and either they'll replace his whole body except for his head which will be "matted on" somehow, or they whole thing will be CG like the Hulk and Jones will just provide the voice, likeness, and motion capture for the movement and face.

There's also a fourth option that I'm really hoping isnt on the table, and that's that they just plain don't try to make him look like the comic version. Hopefully that's not the case though.

We know they're going to use a suit to make him look bigger...yeah pretty sure they said that. And I'm pretty sure they'll use a bit of force-perspective for certain shots as well. Maybe soem CGI buffing as well...but I doubt it.

[Exabyte]

I am just curious as to what the Juggernaut will look like in X3. That's about it, I really don't care if I see his relationship with Prof. X.

[Octoberist]

When I heard Juggs was going to be in the movie, I was like "What the.."

I've always thought that Juggs would be a hard and expensive character to produce on the screen.. When I heard that Vinnie Jones was going to play him, I was like "Huh" again. Vinnie has the intensity of the character, but how about the Dome Helmet?

I have faith that Juggs will look decent (hopefully not too watered down) since it's from the same people who did Hellboy.

[Timstuff]

We know they're going to use a suit to make him look bigger...

Ah, that's a relief. Hopefully Juggs will at the very least bear a striking resemblance to his comicbook counterpart. :)

[JP]

i wonder if we'll get to see him beat someone up with a dildo...:o


SEX 3
Starring...

Juggs or Nuts

*COMING SOON*

:eek: :eek:

[TNC9852002]

*flushes the previous post down the toilet*

-TNC

[JP]

:mad: :o

It would have been Oscar worthy.

[salad fingers]

VINNIE JONES IS THE JUGGERNAUT :xmen:

[Electrix]

VINNIE JONES IS THE JUGGERNAUT :xmen:


OMG.....since when?

:D

[JP]

This guy gives me the heebie jeebies...

[American_Idiot]

http://img115.echo.cx/img115/4149/x3juggernuts4ha.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Balthus/juggs.jpg



The one on the bottom is pretty good. I doubt they would go with the bright colors, seeings how the previous films used mostly blacks and dark colors. I think giving Juggs a copper/rusted suit works perfect for the tone of these films. So the manip is not the best, still, better than I can do.

[spidey207]

American_Idiot, I love the avatar, its so true.

[supersync4d]

OMG you guys... I just got a leaked fighting scene between Colossus and Juggernaut!! so awesome.. not for the faint-hearted..

click on the link to see:

http://www.spidermedia.ru/media/misc/files/colossus_done_juggernaut2.gif

[Retroman]

OMG you guys... I just got a leaked fighting scene between Colossus and Juggernaut!! so awesome.. not for the faint-hearted..

click on the link to see:

http://www.spidermedia.ru/media/misc/files/colossus_done_juggernaut2.gif
:eek:

[Mister Sinister]

OMG you guys... I just got a leaked fighting scene between Colossus and Juggernaut!! so awesome.. not for the faint-hearted..

click on the link to see:

http://www.spidermedia.ru/media/misc/files/colossus_done_juggernaut2.gif
Great CGI...

[Ions]

*flushes the previous post down the toilet*

-TNCNow it'll just block the pipes up, you'll need something entirely more powerful to do away with that post. :down [Ions thinks TNC needs to crack a window while he's at it]

[Timstuff]

Dang, official images can't come soon enough!

[TNC9852002]

My estimate?...The first week of October..

-TNC

[Mister Sinister]

My estimate?...The first week of October..

-TNC
OCTOBER?

They've been filming for a week!

[TNC9852002]

Is it that hard to believe?

I bet that they'll keep the Beast and Juggernaut photos/shoots tightly sealed until then...

-TNC

[Angry Sentinel]

Is it that hard to believe?

I bet that they'll keep the Beast and Juggernaut photos/shoots tightly sealed until then...

-TNC:up:

They're gonna hold back on this one cause they know how much response it's gonna draw.

[Octoberist]

At this point anything is possible. BUt I don't expect to see either of them until past October.

I have feeling though that out of the new characters, we'll be seeing Angel first. Gut feeling.

[TEDDY]

Mess with teddy and you're toast!

That's right, MOTHA ****A!!!

[JP]

:eek: :)

[Angry Sentinel]

:up: That guy had to go back 2 weeks and 4 pages for that quote!

Good to see people still read around this forum.

[JP]

Vinnie Jones, who stars in Johnny Was, was unable to make a party to celebrate the end of shooting of the new Ulster-made movie as he was away being measured up for his costume for the new X-Men movie. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/film_tv/story.jsp?story=655159

[Octoberist]

Are they STILL working on the costume?

[Retroman]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/film_tv/story.jsp?story=655159
:up: Thanks JP. Good to know.

[JP]

Well, Mike did say they were about 85% done with the costumes.


DV-H!: How far along are all the characters’ designs? Are they all finished, or will some further work be done tweaking them before these characters go before the cameras?

Mike Elizalde: I think I feel comfortable saying that we are 85% locked down.

[Retroman]

Are they STILL working on the costume?
It's a fitting. I'm certain he's done many. They do multiple tests before lensing starts.

[Mister Sinister]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/film_tv/story.jsp?story=655159
That movie was filmed in my hometown. :D

[snwboarder88]

Jones fits Juggernaut Costume (http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=14914) - Vinnie Jones, who stars in Johnny Was, was unable to make a party to celebrate the end of shooting of the new Ulster-made movie as he was away being measured up for his costume for the new X-Men movie.

www.comics2film.com (http://www.comics2film.com)

[Lightning Strykez!]

We need...PIX!!! :eek:

It's been said that Vinnie's head is like collossal and weighs many pounds. ;)

[The Original Bamfer]

Interesting find, but... somehow, I knew, one day, someway, this would happen. I must be psychic! :p

[JP]

Yeah so.. this is already in the Juggernaut thread..... yeah.

[snwboarder88]

yea i couldnt find a pic with the article sucks!

[JP]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6442581#post6442581


:eek:

[The Original Bamfer]

???

[JP]

Yay a merge!

[snwboarder88]

jp chill out dude...no reason to freak