Who Is The Greatest Comic Book Villian Of All Time!!!! (Poll Included) Post Here!!

[Jplaya2023]

This isnt about who is the strongest villian, its about who is the most evil, kaniving(sp), and always gave the hero the most trouble in the history of the comic book world.

The Candidates

1. Ruthless Joker - Perhaps batman's greatest villian of all time. He was maniacle, evil , mean and jsut downright nasty at some points especially in the comics he always had joker gas or he was carving up one of his victim's faced with his joker knife or any other deadly weapon. Joker's downfall was he was just 2 crazy for his own good, and he had multiple opportunities to kill batman but had he killed batman he problably would of killed himself.

2. Kingpin - New Yorks most hardened criminal mastermind and NY's largest. This was a man who didnt take no for an answer and always found ways to decieve the police and give spiderman, daredevil and his marvel counterparts trouble in his time. Wilson fisk the man who led mobs, kidnapped family members, killed people to obtain his power. His downfal was he was 2 greedy for his own good (pun intended) with his craving for power je never stopped until he controlled the world which didnt happen.

3. Magneto - X-men's greatest enemy with the exception of apoc and onslaught, here was a guy who was best friends with Prof X in their childhood until he obtained his powers and wanted to kill off the humans and keep the mutants alive. He has control over all magnetic sources in the world which fuel his power and desire to crush human life. His downside was he was 2 close to Xavier to ever destroy him thus taking down the whole x-men crew.

4. Dr. Doom - Famous foe of the FF4, here's a guy who was victor von doom the most powerful man in his state until that accident on the ship changed him completely. Not only did his skin begin to turn to some kind of alloy he also lost his long time love sue storm to stretch armstrong reed richards which fueled his desire for revenge. He always had to go 1-4 with the ff4 and he managed to son them time and time again. His powers are eerily similiar to magneto's but he controls electricity and uses his knowledge in science to fuel his powers. His downside he became 2 greedy

5. Lex Luthor - Not the strongest of foe's but he always managed to son superman time and time again with his power and status in society. He was 10000 smarter than superman and could never be blamed for crimes especially the ones he committed because he knew superman couldnt convict him. His downside was he had no powers but if he did he would of killed superman immediately.



6. Venom - Spiderman's greatest villian and ally in the spiderman series. Eddie Brock long time journalist (writer) for the daily until he is fired by JJJ for poor work performance in which he blamed parker and swore his revenge for JJJ. He had the chance when one time black/blue symbiote found brock and transformed him into the all powerful venom monster which his powers fueled by his rage and inability to attone for his past life mistakes. His downside was having to fight the greatest comic book ever in spiderman, and high pitched noises destroying the symbiote suit.



7. There are plenty others but im naming the main 6 if you disagree state who you think and give an explanation why dont b*Tch about my list make your own. Thanks

[Fantastic Fan22]

Doom

[Jplaya2023]

poll set pictures may come soon vote or die

[Johnny Blaze]

You must really be a big fan of Magneto. :confused:



And Other for Thanos

[Jplaya2023]

You must really be a big fan of Magneto. :confused:



And Other for Thanos

nah magnus was good he always foght 7 against 1 and sonned the xmen everytime

[Jplaya2023]

my poll is messed up will a mod fix this please

[Harlekin]

No one beats Doom.

Except you used crappy movie Doom, which sucks. You only used Movie/TV which sucks. You might wanna say you suck. But I won't.

[Nick Eastwood]

Frankly, I don't think you're listing enough villains. There are plenty of other villains that can match Magneto and Doom. Those are just the most well known villains.

But I can understand why. Because I think if Magneto and Doomed teamed up, they'd be a ***** to take down.

[Unthinkable]

Doom.

[Silver Sable]

I have too many to list :o :(

[Joker!]

Venom has no place on that list.He is not Spidey's greatest villain.Not by a long shot.GG and Ock wear that crown.

I say Joker is the greatest villain ever :up:

[Jplaya2023]

well list them sable

[King_Mungi]

What no?

Annihilus
Apocalypse
Gravitron
Green Goblin (classic)
Kang
Loki
Red Skull
Scarlet Witch *cough*
Thanos
Ultron

etc..etc.

[Jplaya2023]

Venom has no place on that list.He is not Spidey's greatest villain.Not by a long shot.GG and Ock wear that crown.

I say Joker is the greatest villain ever :up:


dock ock is the most popular yes but he isnt better than venom as far as challenging spidey and green goblin is a hoax hobgoblin is better

[Jplaya2023]

What no?

Annihilus
Apocalypse
Gravitron
Green Goblin (classic)
Kang
Loki
Red Skull
Scarlet Witch *cough*
Thanos
Ultron

etc..etc.

damn i forgot about red skull he needs to be there so with apoc as well my bad my bad my bad

[Joker!]

dock ock is the most popular yes but he isnt better than venom as far as challenging spidey and green goblin is a hoax hobgoblin is better

Venom knows who Spider-Man really is and Ock has still caused Spidey waaaaaaay more trouble than Venom has.Ditto with Green Goblin.

I find Venom very overrated and overused.

I have nothing against symbiote villains.I love Carnage.But Venom has got nothing on GG and Ock.They are Spider-Man's big time foes.Always have been and always will be.

[Bucknutty]

Doom!!

[Jplaya2023]

Venom knows who Spider-Man really is and Ock has still caused Spidey waaaaaaay more trouble than Venom has.Ditto with Green Goblin.

I find Venom very overrated and overused.

I have nothing against symbiote villains.I love Carnage.But Venom has got nothing on GG and Ock.They are Spider-Man's big time foes.Always have been and always will be.


that was a ploy the writers used to make it seem that way. Dock ock and gg have more appearances but spidey's tougher fights have always been against venom because venom is spiderman x 10. Anythnig spidey can do venom can do better and counter spidey's attacks.


I always see spidey web dock ocks glasses until he finally wore spider webs repellents and he gets goblin off his glider he's useless. Venom is more of a physical challenge, plus by him knownig his identity he can attack at anytime. The writers didnt use venom to hiis full decor

[Joker!]

Rhino is also a great physical challenge.Doesn't make him Spidey's greatest villain.

Of course Spidey has webbed Ock's glasses or knocked Goblin off his glider.Every villain has weaknesses.

Add a little fire or a little sound and bye bye symbiote off Eddie Brock.

[Silver Sable]

well list them sable

i'm afriad I'm gonna get teased if I do lol
:( :o

[SuperFerret]

1- Doctor Doom - This man has dedicated his entire life to showing us fools the true way we should live our life; under his benevolent rule. Blast that damn Reed Richards and his pathetic family, they always stop the world's progress to the utopia it should be.

2- Joker - An evil, sadistic son of a *****, and he knows it. This is a guy who'd have as much fun skinning someone as he would playing Hungry Hungry Hippos (and he'd look for a way to combine the two).

3- Green Goblin - Why don't more villains just do what this guy did? You wanna find out who your enemy is; just follow him home one day. Then drop the love of his life off a bridge (after doing the nasty with her, of course).

4- Zoom - How do you make a great villain for the fastest man alive? Get someone faster. This psycho actually wants to help make the Flash a better hero, by running him through the most intense gauntlet of events in Wally's young life.

5- Lex Luthor - The pinnacle of human greatness, he's rich, popular, and powerful. Unfortunately, he's overshadowed by that alien invader known as "Superman". How can everyone be so blind? That monster in a cape is just biding his time, waiting until the right time for him to rule the world. And Luthor will be there to stop him.

[King_Mungi]

i'm afriad I'm gonna get teased if I do lol
:( :o

That's twice you said that in 2 different threads:confused:

[papadakis]

Thanos.

End of thread.

[Silver Sable]

I know :o

[SuperFerret]

Just post them Sable. Please. :(

[The Question]

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

The Joker ownes you.

[Silver Sable]

Fine

Joker
GG
Venom
Carnage
Doc Ock
Darkseid
Doom
Magneto
Felix Faust
Braniac
Morgan LeFey
Kenneth Irons
Megatron

[King_Mungi]

Just post them Sable. Please. :(

Yeah! Don't you want to be popular? If you do, you will do it

Edit: and he did...some I agree and some no....crazy person:confused:

[SuperFerret]

Fine

Joker
GG
Venom
Carnage
Doc Ock
Darkseid
Doom
Magneto
Felix Faust
Braniac
Morgan LeFey
Kenneth Irons
Megatron

That's a solid list. Why were you so worried? It's not like you had Stiltman in there.

[Silver Sable]

Yeah! Don't you want to be popular? If you do, you will do it

Edit: and he did...some I agree and some no....crazy person:confused:

Trust me, I'm not popular here lol
:(

Sorry I'm just paranoid guys

[SuperFerret]

Trust me, I'm not popular here lol
:(

Poppycock! You're a better poster than a lot of the people on these boards.





Yeah, I just wanted an excuse to say "poppycock".

[Sogmot1969]

My top five:

MORGAN LE FAY, JOKER, CASSANDRA NOVA, DARKSEID, LADY SHIVA

[Sparta*]

That poll is too one sided for it to be fair.......What about Darkseid? Doomsday? Thanos? or Apocalypse?

[Spidey-Bat]

This should be in MISC. Since it's in marvel, none of the marvel fanboys will admit Joker is 1,000 times better than Doom. Joker has no Joker-bots. He does things himself. He's killed Jason, crippled Barbara, and helped in a plan to break Batman. He's completely evil. There is no good in him.

What has Doom done? Everything he has done, it's really a Doombot:o

[Sparta*]

I am a marvel fanboy, but I agree with you that the Joker is bad to the bone. He is the most ruthless D.C. villain because he just kills people....straight up....he shoots and asks questions later. If this was for D.C. villains alone I would vote Joker...but its not, so I voted Magneto, doesn't mean I dont respect the Jokers abilities though.

[Spidey-Bat]

Magneto isn't a villian IMO. He's more of an anti-hero because you understand his hate of humanity since he witnessed the holocaust. He's a great character nontheless, but Joker is more of a villian.

[Sparta*]

Jokers intentions are definatley worse then Magnetos without a doubt...but I like Magneto because he believes in one thing, and he'll crush anyone who gets in his way of accomplishing it. Plus i'm an X-men freak...and he's the X-mens baddie.

[Shadowknight]

The poll is for the most evil villian, not necessarily the coolest. Look, Thanos has attempted to nuke the universe several times, but that's because he wanted to impress his girlfriend. Adam Warlock also got in his face about screwing up his own plans because he didn't really want to succeed. High body count or not, that doesn't necessarily make him or the Joker the most evil. Also, you can't respect a villian who isn't trying to win. That's just silly.

You want evil?

Kid Miracleman.

In his first appearance as a villian, he killed his secretary for spilling coffee, threw a small child at a building (yes I'm Superman, and I'll help you fly), and beat the hell out of his old mentor for the fun of it. He actually owned himself by accidentally saying his "Miracleman"

In his second villianous appearance, he started by ripping off the head of a kid who tried to rape him, ripped off another kid's arms and punched through the head of a nurse, who he admitted was the nicest person to him at the orphange.

And then he got nasty.

He killed several thousand people in London, one woman he ripped off her arms and tore out her eyes. He rained one street with hands and feet, flayed several people alive and hung their skin on a clothesline. He made a checkerboard out of human breasts and made a rope of human guts wrapped around a building. He threw dozens of cars in the air, with the motorists still in them. He tore off the heads of men, women and babies, he impaled people alive by the dozens, he ripped off heads and made a giant necklace out of them. He blew off the arm of a warpsmith, beat up Miracleman (and set him on fire, using a gasoline truck that had a driver in it)... There were panels where there were large hills of human bodies and deep pools of blood scattered throught the city. Oh, and he trashed a good number of building while he was at it.

It's not that he had a high bodycount, it's that he was so ****ing nasty in the way he went about it.

[Sparta*]

who the hell is kid miracleman?!

[Shadowknight]

He was the sidekick of Miracleman, a Captain Marvel knockoff in Britain in the 50's (both were originally Marvelman/Kid Marvelman, but they had to change the names once they started publishing stories in America). Alan Moore got the rights to use the characters in a revival, of sorts, in the early 80's. He published the first few stories in a British mag called "Warrior." He finished his stories, and reprinted the early ones in a series from Eclipse (no longer in business). Neil Gaiman started a run after Moore, but it got cancelled halfway through his second storyline.

Oh, and the Leader, from "The Hulk" should be on the poll as well.

[Anubis]

I second that Kid Miracleman. Some of the sickest stuff I've ever seen in a comic.

I would also say Ultron. He wiped out an entier Country in Ultron Unlimited.

[Bearpod91]

anyone say Venom yet? well...I do.

[Traveller]

Doom a wimp. Thanos the winner.

[CaptainStacy]

Doom.

And since some folks are making a list, here are MY top five villains;

1) Doom
2) Joker
3) Norman Osborn
4) Magneto
5) Lex Luthor

[Fenris_the_blue]

from marvel it HAS to be ol' Doc Doom. but over all the ultimate comic book baddy has to be The Joker. i mean he is just plain terrifying!!!!

[ShadowBoxing]

Dr. Doom owns all...no one trumps him...I mean he inspired George Lucas to create Darth Vader (its true)...not even Joker or Lex can make a claim like that

[Traveller]

Thanos killed half of every world. Who did anything close feat?

[ShadowBoxing]

The poll is for the most evil villian, not necessarily the coolest. Look, Thanos has attempted to nuke the universe several times, but that's because he wanted to impress his girlfriend. Adam Warlock also got in his face about screwing up his own plans because he didn't really want to succeed. High body count or not, that doesn't necessarily make him or the Joker the most evil. Also, you can't respect a villian who isn't trying to win. That's just silly.

You want evil?

Kid Miracleman.

In his first appearance as a villian, he killed his secretary for spilling coffee, threw a small child at a building (yes I'm Superman, and I'll help you fly), and beat the hell out of his old mentor for the fun of it. He actually owned himself by accidentally saying his "Miracleman"

In his second villianous appearance, he started by ripping off the head of a kid who tried to rape him and punched through the head of a nurse, who he admitted was the nicest person to him at the orphange.

And then he got nasty.

He killed several thousand people in London, one woman he ripped off her arms and tore out her eyes. He rained one street with hands and feet, flayed several people alive and hung their skin on a clothesline. He made a checkerboard out of human breasts and made a rope of human guts wrapped around a building. He threw dozens of cars in the air, with the motorists still in them. He tore off the heads of men, women and babies, he impaled people alive by the dozens, he ripped off heads and made a giant necklace out of them. He blew off the arm of a warpsmith, beat up Miracleman (and set him on fire, using a gasoline truck that had a driver in it)... There were panels where there were large hills of human bodies and deep pools of blood scattered throught the city. Oh, and he trashed a good number of building while he was at it.

It's not that he had a high bodycount, it's that he was so ****ing nasty in the way he went about it.
I need to read this comic...been looking for a TPB for years...is it true they are rereleasing it

[ShadowBoxing]

My list

Dr. Doom
Joker
Magneto
Megatron
Lex Luthor

[Shadowknight]

A couple of events I mentioned weren't actually seen in #15, but Neil Gaiman wrote them into a flashback (the checkerboard thing and the guts around the building thing).

But yeah, evil. There's a reason people refer to it as the most violent comic ever put out.

[Langoth]

Doom

[Shadowknight]

Thanos killed half of every world. Who did anything close feat?

Captain Marvel and Eternity's son actually destroyed the universe. The Anti-Monitor destroyed THOUSANDS of universes. Hal Jordan (Parallax) destroyed the universe and mutliple timelines.

So yeah, Thanos is a wuss compared to them.

[Guyverjay]

Bah Thanos did it just get some pussy, he rules all:o

Besides he only "Lost" because he wanted to:p

[SpawnofInuyasha]

Thanos.

End of thread.

TOTALLY:up:

[The Question]

Bah Thanos did it just get some pussy, he rules all:o


Humanity's desire to get laid is the downfall of many a nation.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Im going to go with the classics,either Dr.Doom,Mageto,Thanos,Darkseid or Lex Luthor.

[Guyverjay]

Humanity's desire to get laid is the downfall of many a nation.

Yeah?:confused:

[darkdaz]

Doom the be all and end all of comic villans. And these days i am more into DC than marvel. But there is just something about Doom.

[TheSumOfGod]

4. Dr. Doom - Famous foe of the FF4, here's a guy who was victor von doom the most powerful man in his state until that accident on the ship changed him completely. Not only did his skin begin to turn to some kind of alloy he also lost his long time love sue storm to stretch armstrong reed richards which fueled his desire for revenge. He always had to go 1-4 with the ff4 and he managed to son them time and time again. His powers are eerily similiar to magneto's but he controls electricity and uses his knowledge in science to fuel his powers. His downside he became 2 greedy

My... God... You know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the COMIC BOOK character, do you? This description above is for that terrible DDINO (Doctor Doom In Name Only) version of the character from that crappy FFINO (Fantastic Four In Name Only) movie that came out recently! Go read some freakin' FF comic books, THEN come back and make a proper poll! Sheesh! :eek: :rolleyes:

[ViscaBarcaInter]

Doom is so much above all other villains, it is frankly unfair to have him on this list, which only serves to humilate the other "villains" as they look up to him and see the sort of villain they WISH they were.

He's famous. He has so much to him, skills, knowledge, a personality and motivation that makes sense. And he is INFINITELY more of a threat to a hero or hero team than a guy like Joker could ever be. Joker would be second for me, simply because he is so cool and stuff. But simply BEING evil isn't enough for me, any time I see Batman vs Joker, the Joker quickly ends up getting his ass handed to him. In fact, I feel that too many comics/cartoons, and even the movie, show that the Joker doesn't really come across like an equal to Batman in any field, and that simply is not on for someone who is supposed to be the ARCH enemy of someone.

DOOM rocks blocks. Even if you were to forget the cool mask, the whole outfit, the endless knowledge of...everything, the hilariously pompous and condescending way he talks down to everyone, the way a non powered human causes so much trouble to a team of 4 superpowered heroes, the fact that the heroes in the Marvel world are all wary of him as an extremely dangerous man....

His NAME alone should win this contest. :D:D

[rigel7soldiers]

Doom, normally. Doom took over Counter-Earth in like a week and a half. Badass. Didn't vote for him, though, because this is comic book villain, meaning any comic book, in which case, Legato Bluesummers takes it.

[taskmaster]

taskmaster

[Franklin Richards]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/CAPITALS.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/xmen14596DrDoom.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/doomtriumphant.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/SecretWars10.jpg


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[rigel7soldiers]

That last one is from when Doom took on the Beyonder, who is omnipotent, and came out on top.

[Pksoze]

Sorry guys whenever I think of Doom I just laugh.

http://www.geocities.com/druj_nasu/Doom_squirreled.JPG

[Guyverjay]

That last one is from when Doom took on the Beyonder, who is omnipotent, and came out on top.


Meh only because Beyonder allowed it to happen:o

[rigel7soldiers]

Doom took over Counter-Earth in like a week and a half, I think that counts for something. Seriously, do manga villains count? 'Cause I have a lot more.

[A_French_Gal]

I'ma go with the gigantigan Galactus! Why? A'cause he's so powerful, he just gives other normal people incredible super cosmic super powers that just put most other superhumans to shame, and has THEM beat everybody up. Or, he just puts on his shield and walks through the "pathetic" attempts of supertypes, not even really caring about them, like they're nothing. Or maybe cause he used to have a big purple "G" on his chest. Either way. He has to exist in every universe to keep Abrax (sp?) from getting out and destroying everything anyway. lol THAT'S how important and powerful he is.

[Shadowknight]

Meh only because Beyonder allowed it to happen:o

Nope. Doom had a device in his armor that allowed him to suck the power out of the Beyonder. This was while half his body was being dissected by the Beyonder.

So, Doom's definetly pimp, yo.

[Juelz Santana]

3- Green Goblin - Why don't more villains just do what this guy did? You wanna find out who your enemy is; just follow him home one day. Then drop the love of his life off a bridge (after doing the nasty with her, of course).



lol, nicely worded.:up:

[Juelz Santana]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/CAPITALS.jpg


'Nuff said.

[Jplaya2023]

yo santana spit some piff

[Valorman]

doom owns thanos

[mrvlknight21]

I say Red Skull simply because of what he stood for. When I say that he is the greatest villain-I amthinking in terms of how evil is he and the reaons for his ecil actions. Magneto has tragedy as motivation, Joker is just a nutcase, Luthor and Kingpin are just power hungry. Venom is a product of an alien and an inferiority complex thus Doom would be my 2nd choice.

[rigel7soldiers]

You know who else is a good Manga villain? Vicious.

[Muze]

if we're talking most dangerous, i'd have to go with either Thanos or Galactus. Doom is ambitious but normally limits himself to ruling the world. Thanos wanted all of existence. and he's just naturally tougher (doesn't need armor). Galactus because destruction, to him, is like breathing to us. a handful of cowardly villians might tremble at the name 'Doom' but Galactus scares the piss out of several species; earthborn and other.

if we're talking 'evilest,' i'd nominate the Purple Man or Red Skull. points go to Red Skull for having always been evil. Purple Man's a johnny-come-lately who would be a joke if not for Alias, imo.

as for 'greatest' villain, i'm going with Magneto. under Claremont, he was like Dr Doom done right imo. his background is instantly relatable as is his cause. physically, he's as dangerous as an atom bomb (ex. a weaker version ripped Apocalypse in half). i mean there's a reason why the government greated the Magneto protocols, the russians are trying to assassinate him, and Genosha is under mutant control. he's just a well-made villain and cooler than Doom in some ways i.e. doesn't have to beg for s*x, use robot duplicates, or make boastful speeches. the Acolytes worshipped him just because of his charisma. that's the kind of villain that i like.

[Van_V]

http://comicscentral.tripod.com/marvelheroes/b/images/batroc2.jpg

[Electro UK]

My fav is Electro, but when I have to go with greatest, it can only be Doom

[Muze]

only one of these villains has a solo movie in the works.

[Anubis]

Magneto

[Tony Stark]

Dr. Doom is far and away the greatest.

[Zenien]

Doctor Doom is the greatest Characeture villain of all time, so he gets my vote.

[Blade83]

other - Apocalypse

[PaleRider]

No one rivals Doom, NO ONE!

but yeah my little list thing:
1. Doom
2. Thanos
3. Darkseid
4. Lex Luthor
5. magneto

[Electro UK]

Doom is the greatest. All will bow to Doom.
Leader, Powerfull, Rich, Intelligent and quite the Gentlemen. What more could you want?

[Jplaya2023]

why is doom this popular??????

[taskmaster]

Because, people who actually know dr.doom for the comics voted in this poll.

[Muze]

Doom is the greatest. All will bow to Doom.
Leader, Powerfull, Rich, Intelligent and quite the Gentlemen. What more could you want?

but that description describes Magneto and the Mandarin as well.

[rigel7soldiers]

why is doom this popular??????

He wins, in the end. His inventios make a mockery of the word "impossible." His machines have wraught souls from Hell, and sent them to Heaven. There is nothing worthwile on this Earth that he has not posessed. He is end all, and be all.

[Electro UK]

but that description describes Magneto and the Mandarin as well.

Is magneto rich? I didn't know that. And... Manderin is lame. Rings? Magical rings?

[rigel7soldiers]

The rings are formidable, but he never freakin' uses them.

[Muze]

Is magneto rich? I didn't know that. And... Manderin is lame. Rings? Magical rings?

ok, forget the rings. what about that dragon of his? anyways, f-yeah Magneto's rich. don't you remember when he stole all of that gold from the nazi's? and i'm sure that he saved every penny that the CIA gave to him. and the dude is master of metals; silver and gold currency. and what kind of Acolyte is going to pass on a collection plate without emptying his/her pockets for the Lord Magnus?

[Tony Stark]

why is doom this popular??????

Because he was the primary inspiration for Darth Vader.....nuff said!

[Da Docta]

CLOSE/BAN/DELETE/SPIT :o

[Jplaya2023]

CLOSE/BAN/DELETE/SPIT :o



u love my style huh

[Muze]

Because he was the primary inspiration for Darth Vader.....nuff said!

so what. Darth Vadar's a loser. that's something to be proud of? i'll answer that for you, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

btw, isn't it obvious that Doom is a combination of Dracula, the Phantom of the Opera (disfigurement), and Dr Frankenstein (playing God)?

[Bishop.]

Nah... this dude is my personal favourite.
black tom cassidy!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/Seamus616/blacktom.gif

[Da Docta]

u love my style huh
:rolleyes:

[Muze]

Nah... this dude is my personal favourite.
black tom cassidy!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/Seamus616/blacktom.gif

Tom is awesome and he's got to be the most obviously in-the-closet villain around. guy even shoots people with a big stick. :)

[Jplaya2023]

:rolleyes:

you the one who brought this thread back from thread hell

[Bishop.]

Tom is awesome and he's got to be the most obviously in-the-closet villain around. guy even shoots people with a big stick. :)
words of a genius!!
i am extremely surprised they didnt have Sabretooth.... there is no one more evil than him!!

[nogap87]

Magneto: Great look, great powers, and has a "noble" reason for being a "villian"

[Muze]

words of a genius!!
i am extremely surprised they didnt have Sabretooth.... there is no one more evil than him!!

good call. he has my vote for the most depraved. Vic kept a little girl in his closet for a late-night snack. and that's after killing her family and decorating his own room with various other bodies.

[Bishop.]

Yeah he is the most evil.

[ShadowBoxing]

Isn't JPlaya2023 the greatest supervillian of all time???

[Chris Wallace]

Gotta go with Doom. None of the others are even in his league.

[ShadowBoxing]

The Candidates

1. Ruthless Joker - Perhaps batman's greatest villian of all time. He was maniacle, evil , mean and jsut downright nasty at some points especially in the comics he always had joker gas or he was carving up one of his victim's faced with his joker knife or any other deadly weapon. Joker's downfall was he was just 2 crazy for his own good, and he had multiple opportunities to kill batman but had he killed batman he problably would of killed himself.

Joker never carved up his victims in the comics. he usually either shot them or gassed them. Also Joker is not too crazy for his own good, his craziness is what has kept him as Batman's greatest foil

2. Kingpin - New Yorks most hardened criminal mastermind and NY's largest. This was a man who didnt take no for an answer and always found ways to decieve the police and give spiderman, daredevil and his marvel counterparts trouble in his time. Wilson fisk the man who led mobs, kidnapped family members, killed people to obtain his power. His downfal was he was 2 greedy for his own good (pun intended) with his craving for power je never stopped until he controlled the world which didnt happen.
Wilson Fisk never wanted to control the world...in fact the largest piece of territory he ever controlled was Hell's Kitchen. Wilson Fisk also has not "led mobs" in fact Wilson Fisk is the head of all crime in Hell's Kitchen. He has henchmen but he is not a mere mob leader. Also he is DareDevil's villian, Spider-Man was more a passing nuasence to him.


3. Magneto - X-men's greatest enemy with the exception of apoc and onslaught, here was a guy who was best friends with Prof X in their childhood until he obtained his powers and wanted to kill off the humans and keep the mutants alive. He has control over all magnetic sources in the world which fuel his power and desire to crush human life. His downside was he was 2 close to Xavier to ever destroy him thus taking down the whole x-men crew. WAYYYYY off
-Magneto was not Xaviers childhood friend. Xavier did not meet him until he was well into his twenties.
-Magneto's Power has nothing to do with his desire to crush human life. Number 1) Magneto was imprisoned in a nazi concentration camp disallusioning him to humanity. Number 2) his children were taken from him and his wife was killed by an angry gathering...this is when his powers manifested
-The X-Men routinely take down Magneto, they have killed, mind wiped, and even imprisoned Magneto

4. Dr. Doom - Famous foe of the FF4, here's a guy who was victor von doom the most powerful man in his state until that accident on the ship changed him completely. Not only did his skin begin to turn to some kind of alloy he also lost his long time love sue storm to stretch armstrong reed richards which fueled his desire for revenge. He always had to go 1-4 with the ff4 and he managed to son them time and time again. His powers are eerily similiar to magneto's but he controls electricity and uses his knowledge in science to fuel his powers. His downside he became 2 greedy

wow....uhhh where do I start
Doom does not have powers...he wheres a metal suit. Furthermore he never was on the voyage with the Fantastic Four. Doom was Victor Von Doom a young boy whose family was killed by an oppressive Latverian government due to the fact that they were gypsies. Doom, a brillant child, pursued education at ESU and met his first "friend" Reed Richards. Reed was involved in an experiment designed to contact Doom's mother that backfired and scarred Doom horribly. Doom was horrified that he had been made imperfect so he wandered into the land of Tibet where the mystic Monks who had trained his mother made him a suit of armor with the power of a nuclear reactor. Doom put the mask of this suit on while it was still hot and burned his face beyond recognition. From there he plotted. Upon learning of a buried treasure Doom enlisted the FF by capturing Sue (whom he never previously met) and made them enter a time portal to retrieve a device. Reed tricked Doom and Doom fled. Doom would go on to use his SUIT OF ARMOR to overthrow the Latverian government and ascede to the thrown

5. Lex Luthor - Not the strongest of foe's but he always managed to son superman time and time again with his power and status in society. He was 10000 smarter than superman and could never be blamed for crimes especially the ones he committed because he knew superman couldnt convict him. His downside was he had no powers but if he did he would of killed superman immediately.
Lex Luthor has had krytonite battle suits. He really never had a downfall. he has always been surrounded by elites, whether they be villians, politicians, or bussinessmen. Lex Luthor's strength is adapting to every situation, whether it be good or ill. Lex has been president and has always stayed two steps ahead of his opponents. You might even say he is an evil Batman of sorts


6. Venom - Spiderman's greatest villian and ally in the spiderman series. Eddie Brock long time journalist (writer) for the daily until he is fired by JJJ for poor work performance in which he blamed parker and swore his revenge for JJJ. He had the chance when one time black/blue symbiote found brock and transformed him into the all powerful venom monster which his powers fueled by his rage and inability to attone for his past life mistakes. His downside was having to fight the greatest comic book ever in spiderman, and high pitched noises destroying the symbiote suit.
ultra sonic frequencies

He had no "past mistakes". In fact Eddie was the perfect child. Straight A's, star athlete, hard worker...only one problem. His father never once complimented him on any of his accomplishments, never once gave him a pat on the back. Eddie as a result saw no potential in himself. That is what the Venom suit gave him...power and potential. He finally fealt like a man his father would have been proud of



7. There are plenty others but im naming the main 6 if you disagree state who you think and give an explanation why dont b*Tch about my list make your own. Thanks

next time research the characters before openning your mouth

[J.R.]

Lex Luthor...anyone who is human and can stand up to Superman time and time again is a fine villain in my opinion.

[XSpidercideX]

Hmm...I don't know all but I'll take a whack at it, excuse me for leaving out a lot that I don't know of...

Sickest/Demented villains...
Kid Miracleman
...followed by...
Carnage
Joker

Greatest...
Dr. Doom
Magneto
Lex Luther

Most Dangerous...
Galactus
Thanos

Biggest Personal Vendetta...
Green Goblin (Norman) ...my fave...had to make a category for him, lol

[Bishop.]

Hmm...I don't know all but I'll take a whack at it, excuse me for leaving out a lot that I don't know of...

Sickest/Demented villains...
Kid Miracleman
...followed by...
Carnage
Joker

Greatest...
Dr. Doom
Magneto
Lex Luther

Most Dangerous...
Galactus
Thanos

Biggest Personal Vendetta...
Green Goblin (Norman) ...my fave...had to make a category for him, lol
for demented you forgot Victor Creed... othere than that its pretty accurate.
and for Dangerous magneto could have made it... that man has control of the electro magnetic pulses around the earth!

[Doc Ock 1]

Dr Doom is the greatest comic book villain of all time in my opinion.:doom:

He is the premier villain of the Marvel Universe,sure he is mostly one of the Fantastic Four's main villains but he has also crossed paths with Spider Man,Daredevil,The Hulk,The Silver Surfer,The Punisher,The X Men and The Avengers a few times.
And I think that masked villains are more interesting than villains who look normal.

[rigel7soldiers]

Kid Miracleman would probably get my vote were he on the poll...

Or, again, Legato Bluesummers. He can make people do whatever he wants. Once, a guy in a bar was giving him trouble; Legato used his mind to make the guy rip his own heart out. From Trigun.

[Sparta*]

Most EVIL would have to be Thanos, Doctor Doom, or Mephisto

Villains that are only villains because people are standing in the way of them achieving their desires would be Magneto, Apocalypse, Mister Sinister

[Jplaya2023]

sinister is a c-level villian he really doesnt have what it takes to be on the list

[Sparta*]

No way, hes B list for sure

[The Question]

Wilson Fisk never wanted to control the world...in fact the largest piece of territory he ever controlled was Hell's Kitchen. Wilson Fisk also has not "led mobs" in fact Wilson Fisk is the head of all crime in Hell's Kitchen. He has henchmen but he is not a mere mob leader. Also he is DareDevil's villian, Spider-Man was more a passing nuasence to him.


Actually, Fisk was at one point a member of Hydra and tried to help them take over the world. However, he realized that world domination is an unnecesairy and costly goal, so he just went back to being New York's biggest crime lord.

[Anubis]

I've always liked Kang. And Ultron of course.

[Jplaya2023]

I've always liked Krang. And Ultron of course.


this krang

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/avatars/travis_krangarcade.jpg

[Anubis]

Man.......that was lame.

[rigel7soldiers]

No, Krang from Atlantis. He's a Namor villain who basically looks like an underwater Ming the Merciless. Or, perhaps he means Kang.

EDIT: Yeah, it was Kang.

[Anubis]

He thought it would be funny if he changed what I said to Krang so that he could post a picture of Squidbilly over there. But that wasn't a very well thought out joke.

[rigel7soldiers]

Oh, he put that there? Maybe he doesn't know who Kang is, and thought that's who you meant. Though that is a pretty big leap.

[Muze]

Kid Miracleman would probably get my vote were he on the poll...

Or, again, Legato Bluesummers. He can make people do whatever he wants. Once, a guy in a bar was giving him trouble; Legato used his mind to make the guy rip his own heart out. From Trigun.

but Purple Man would have had everyone in the bar stop breathing.

[The Question]

Then he'd have a drink while sitting around their corpses and chat up the sexy female bartender.

[Da Docta]

sinister is a c-level villian he really doesnt have what it takes to be on the list
:rolleyes:

[rigel7soldiers]

but Purple Man would have had everyone in the bar stop breathing.
Legato can do that, but making a guy rip his own heart out is much more cruel. Then he made everyone else shoot each other... making them stop breathing means there'd be no blood. Legato thinks his powers make him the greatest thing in all creation; he would have destroyed mankind altogether, but decided to pull a fast one and make his pacifist foil kill him.

[ookami]

Nice question, I can't believe it....anyway I think Magneto because the man actually killed his own children when they got in his way.

[Anubis]

When did that happen?

[Muze]

Legato can do that, but making a guy rip his own heart out is much more cruel. Then he made everyone else shoot each other... making them stop breathing means there'd be no blood. Legato thinks his powers make him the greatest thing in all creation; he would have destroyed mankind altogether, but decided to pull a fast one and make his pacifist foil kill him.

i beg to differ. having a guy pull his own heart out is cruel...to the guy missing a heart. Purple Man very casually killed a restaraunt full of complete strangers because he didn't want to be disturbed while he was eating. we're possibly talking about little kids, someone's parents, siblings all suddenly not being able to breathe because of some psycho. and suffocation isn't exactly a quick death like having your heart removed. they probably sat there in complete shock for a minute before they succumbed to asphyxia. he's also had people murder others and then let them live. i'd say that's as cruel as it gets.

[Muze]

When did that happen?

i don't know that it did but Magneto has said on more than 1 occassion that he would kill his own children if they got in his way. the Ultimate version used a machine gun on Quicksilver's legs after years and years of emotional abuse (asking Cyclops to call him "father" when Quicksilver was around to make him jealous).

[Anubis]

Yeah, but that was Ultimate Mags, that doesn't really count. :o

[ShadowBoxing]

i beg to differ. having a guy pull his own heart out is cruel...to the guy missing a heart. Purple Man very casually killed a restaraunt full of complete strangers because he didn't want to be disturbed while he was eating. we're possibly talking about little kids, someone's parents, siblings all suddenly not being able to breathe because of some psycho. and suffocation isn't exactly a quick death like having your heart removed. they probably sat there in complete shock for a minute before they succumbed to asphyxia. he's also had people murder others and then let them live. i'd say that's as cruel as it gets.What they have done with Purple Man recently is quiet astounding...I am glad I have his first app.

[ShadowBoxing]

Nice question, I can't believe it....anyway I think Magneto because the man actually killed his own children when they got in his way.I honestly (have followed this character for years) do not think he would do that. Magneto has a huge problem with killing mutants...so much so that once he thought he had killed Kitty Pryde and then ended up wheeping and letting the X-Men go. Magneto wants whats best for all mutants. He in his minds thinks he is saving them. He will at times feel there may be a need to sacrifice a mutant here or there, however in the end he always seems to have a perverse form of compassion for them. I think this is one of the reasons we frequently sides WITH the X-Men. However this is all my take on the character.

Also Magneto does cherish his children as shown in Vision/Scarlet Witch series, He almost lost them once

[The Question]

What they have done with Purple Man recently is quiet astounding...I am glad I have his first app.


It's really just an example of how power corrupts. At first he was a simple con man. Now he's a mass murderer and rapist as well as a con man. Why. Because he can.

[Sarge]

It's really just an example of how power corrupts. At first he was a simple con man. Now he's a mass murderer and rapist as well as a con man. Why. Because he can.
Kind of like what Gaiman did for Dr. Destiny. He turned a simple gimmick villian into one seriously ****ed up dude.

[ShadowBoxing]

Kind of like what Gaiman did for Dr. Destiny. He turned a simple gimmick villian into one seriously ****ed up dude.I really need to pick up those Alias issues with Purple Man

[rigel7soldiers]

Eh, I don't know. Legato once boasted that he could kill everyone in a busy town square in under two seconds... I do love the Purple Man, though I never appreciated his name. First off, I'd bet he prefers Zebediah. Second, is the Abomination called the Green Man? It doesn't even describe his powers at all...

[ShadowBoxing]

Eh, I don't know. Legato once boasted that he could kill everyone in a busy town square in under two seconds... I do love the Purple Man, though I never appreciated his name. First off, I'd bet he prefers Zebediah. Second, is the Abomination called the Green Man? It doesn't even describe his powers at all...I kinda like the name Purple man....you don't get Purple a whole lot...but his daughter (formerly purple girl) is called persuasion

[Muze]

I honestly (have followed this character for years) do not think he would do that. Magneto has a huge problem with killing mutants...

he killed Sanyaka and Fabian Cortez; quite nonchalantly. :)


so much so that once he thought he had killed Kitty Pryde and then ended up wheeping and letting the X-Men go.

that was because 1) Kitty is jewish and 2) she's a little girl. consider that he weeps only after trying to kill the other Xmen. what Mags was surprised at was that he almost hurt an innocent; one who reminded him of his family members (Anya especially) no doubt.


Magneto wants whats best for all mutants. He in his minds thinks he is saving them.


when he's being written well. many writers just want him to be a 1-dimensional self-serving terrorist. those writers suck.


Also Magneto does cherish his children as shown in Vision/Scarlet Witch series, He almost lost them once

or maybe it has more to do with his pride. he cherish's his children's obedience. he wants them at his side because it's humiliating to have his own flesh and blood oppose him. btw, that appearance in Vision/Scarlet Witch was a very good story.

[Muze]

Eh, I don't know. Legato once boasted that he could kill everyone in a busy town square in under two seconds... I do love the Purple Man, though I never appreciated his name. First off, I'd bet he prefers Zebediah. Second, is the Abomination called the Green Man? It doesn't even describe his powers at all...

again, it's not how powerful the villain is but what they do with that power. this Legato individual sounds dangerous but not in the same way the Purple Man is. Purple Man is a villain without honor; absolutely no reservations against hurting the innocent. in truth, he thinks that we're all comic book characters and that what he's doing is beyond morality. killing everyone in a busy town square sounds impressive. but for it to happen in 2 seconds would mean that his victims wouldn't feel anything. if he did what he boasted of, it would be to demonstrate his power. contrast that with the Purple Man. he engages in mass murder to alleviate boredom. he gets off on it. he wouldn't kill everyone in a busy town square in 2 seconds. he (like he does in Alias) would command everyone on a crowded city street to turn to their neighbor and beat them to death. could you imagine being in that crowd, beating another innocent person to death, and being unable to defend yourself as the person next to you is doing the same? Purple Man's a sadist.

[ookami]

I honestly (have followed this character for years) do not think he would do that. Magneto has a huge problem with killing mutants...so much so that once he thought he had killed Kitty Pryde and then ended up wheeping and letting the X-Men go. Magneto wants whats best for all mutants. He in his minds thinks he is saving them. He will at times feel there may be a need to sacrifice a mutant here or there, however in the end he always seems to have a perverse form of compassion for them. I think this is one of the reasons we frequently sides WITH the X-Men. However this is all my take on the character.

Also Magneto does cherish his children as shown in Vision/Scarlet Witch series, He almost lost them once

My BF says it was a mini series called Magneto Rex (yeah I know), but I do remember him killing Pietro because he got in his way about something...it was so damned long ago, but he did kill his son, don't have to believe me but it is true...I'll try to find it.

[Muze]

My BF says it was a mini series called Magneto Rex (yeah I know), but I do remember him killing Pietro because he got in his way about something...it was so damned long ago, but he did kill his son, don't have to believe me but it is true...I'll try to find it.

how did Pietro come back to life then? :)

[ShadowBoxing]

My BF says it was a mini series called Magneto Rex (yeah I know), but I do remember him killing Pietro because he got in his way about something...it was so damned long ago, but he did kill his son, don't have to believe me but it is true...I'll try to find it.I know the series of which you speak...however I believe its a alternate reality

[Keyser Soze]

Here's my countdown of my top ten favourite villains. I know this probably doesn't go along with the "Greatest Comic Book Villain" idea, because I have some strange choices in my Top Ten. But between deciding on lists based on who's the most evil, or powerful, or iconic, I thought that having a list based on personal preference was just as valid.

10. SCARECROW
A fascinating cerebral opponent for Batman. I like him because he brings an element of horror to Gotham City, looking like something out of a nightmare. Fear is such a strong emotion within us all, so having someone who can control it is a genuinely unnerving thought. Something that makes Scarecrow extremely interesting is that, in fighting him, heroes will often be forced to confront their own personal demons as well as Scarecrow himself.

9. THE GREEN GOBLIN
Spider-Man's most hated foe, Norman Osborn deserves on the list purely for all the hell he has put Peter Parker through. As The Green Goblin, he is a twisted, devious villain, with an array of deadly gizmos at his disposal. But even in his alter ego, Norman Osborn, he is an iconic portrayal of villainy. Haunted by the loss of his son, driven by the need for vengeance on Spider-Man, he devises cold, calculated methods of destroying Peter Parker. The Green Goblin is one person you DO NOT want knowing about your personal life.

8. DR. DOOM
A classic villain. All of the would-be world conquerors who have followed him have something to owe to Dr Doom. Even Darth Vader has elements of Doom. He's Marvel's top dog of vilainy, and many would call him the best bad guy in comics. So why is he so low on my list? Well, just as a hero is only as good as his villains, a villain is only as good as his heroes. And I have never been that into The Fantastic Four. But still, an excellent villain.

7. LEX LUTHOR
Manipulative. Ambitious. Ruthless. Lex Luthor is a villain who can be both charismatic and cruel. Want an example? Here's one. Luthor enters a cafe. He offers the waitress serving him 1 million dollars if she'll spend a month with him. But he leaves before she can decide. We learn it's a game he plays at roadside stops, designed to torment poor women. He takes pleasure in leaving them questioning for the rest of their lives how their lives might have turned out if they had taken Lex up on his offer. No killing, not even a crime involved. But in my opinion, this small act of cruelty is more powerful than anything Dr Doom has ever done.

6. THANOS
The Green Goblin has Spider-man for an enemy. Lex Luthor wants to bring down Superman. But Thanos doesn't target a hero for destruction: he targets the entire universe! And what makes Thanos such an excellent villain is that he has actually succeeded in the past! The Mad Titan is obsessed with Death, it's female incarnation to be precise. And he wants to erase as much life as he can to appease her. Originally created as a Darkseid knock-off, Thanos has actually far surpassed his inspiration, becoming a superior villain in his own right. In his own words - "You address omnipotence. Tread carefully."

5. MAGNETO
If this was based on powers, Magneto would be top of the list. He has quite possibly the coolest superpower in comicdom - mastery of magnetism. Not only can he move huge metal objects at will, but he can even manipulate the iron in your blood. But it isn't just his great powers that earn him this high ranking. Magneto is such a complex character. He believes he is acting for the greater good, to enhance the mutant race. And some of the time, his arguments seem more valid than Xavier's. But when it comes down to it, he's still a villain. Not because he follows a different ideology. But because he insists you do too.

4. TWO-FACE
There's nothing better than a well-written villain. And Two-Face is one of the best-written villains out there. Once the District Attorney of Gotham City, the left side of Harvey Dent's face was severely disfigured by acid, creating the ruthless criminal Two-Face. What makes Two-Face so good is that he's not one, but two great characters. Harvey Dent is a tormented man, haunted by past demons, and tormented by what he has become. Two-Face is a sinister figure, unleashing his own twisted brand of "justice", with life and death decided on the flip of a coin. He serves as a dark mirror image of Batman, and has a close personal link to him. Whenever Batman has to fight his old friend, it weighs on his soul.

3. BULLSEYE
One of the deadliest men on the planet, Bullseye can turn any object into a lethal weapon, using his perfect aim to kill people with everything from knives to paper-clips. He's a hired assassin, one of the best, but due to the fact that's he totally psychotic, he'll also kill random people for fun. He's arguably Daredevil's most hated enemy, having killed not one, but two of his loves. Beat that Osborn!

2. DOCTOR OCTOPUS
Spider-Man's REAL top foe. Doctor Octopus works excellently as an antithesis to Spider-Man. While Peter Parker has used his knowledge in science for the good of mankind, Otto Octavious was consumed by it, and uses it to his own ends. An accident left four metalic limbs grafted to his body, and he was granted complete mental control over them. People don't come up with concepts like that anymore! Battles between Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus are among the most dynamic in comics. All Doctor Octopus needs to finally reach the absolute pinnacle of villainy is a classic story, given writers that are actually worthy of the character.

1. THE JOKER
The Clown Prince Of Crime. The Harlequin Of Hate. The Ace Of Knaves. The definitive comic book villain. The Joker is the perfect nemesis for Batman. It's order versus chaos, good versus evil at its most pure. The Joker is intelligent, often able to match wits with Batman. But he's also completely insane. But don't let the laugh full you - he's anything but funny. At his best, he's absolutely terrifying. He represents everything Batman has sworn to stand against. Without The Joker, there would be no Batman - its as simple as that. The Joker is the greatest comic book villain of all time. End of story.

[Genis-vell]

I'm a Doom man myself, I'm glad to see the panel where Captain America asks how he can speak in Capitals - genius.

I think Loki deserves more credit, that guy never stopped scheming and had a big hand setting in motion the end of Asgard (Until the relaunch :0)

Always thought Nefaria was pretty badass as villians go, so is Kang.

Luthor and Joker are also special, DC heroes have never really interested me, but those guys are always worth checking up on - both brilliant villians.

I will say I don't really see Galactus as a bad dude, again, he just simply exists, he has incalculable power and does some pretty badass stuff with it but he never comes across as outright evil.

[Da Docta]

I think Loki deserves more credit, that guy never stopped scheming and had a big hand setting in motion the end of Asgard (Until the relaunch :0)

agreed :up:

[TheSumOfGod]

Ultimate Hulk think Ultimate Hulk best villain of all!

http://www.spidermedia.ru/characters/marvel/ultimate/images/ultimate_hulk.jpg

VOTE FOR ULTIMATE HULK!

[Union Jack]

Doctor Doom is the greatest villain.

Though on a personal level i also think norman osborn deserves a mention..what he has put poor parker through!!

[ihateusernames]

what about Dormammu? (sp)

[ookami]

how did Pietro come back to life then? :)

Dude I just read it I don't write it:confused:

[ookami]

I know the series of which you speak...however I believe its a alternate reality

Thank you...does it matter? Not gettin' smart just a question.:confused:

[Anubis]

Yeah, it kinda does. 616 Mags is the definative mags so you must always ask yourself, "Would he do that in the regular Universe?" The answer is, Probally not.

[ShadowBoxing]

Thank you...does it matter? Not gettin' smart just a question.:confused:Unless I have to...I do not like using out of continuity information when exploring characters. Which is strange because one of my areas of expertise is alternate dimensions in Marvel

[rodhulk]

Just gotta go with Dr. Doom.

[Muze]

Yeah, it kinda does. 616 Mags is the definative mags so you must always ask yourself, "Would he do that in the regular Universe?" The answer is, Probally not.

hmm. i don't know. i think Magneto would have a hard time killing Wanda because 1) she's his daughter and 2) she looks like his dead wife. by contrast, i don't think it'd take much of a reason for him to kill Pietro. he holds Pietro to a higher standard because 1) he's his son and 2) they resemble each other. looking at it from Magneto's point of view, Pietro is a humongous failure. he hasn't even tapped his own genetic potential. he's directionless; seriously, what would Quicksilver being doing right now if there was no House of M? he sired a human child and pined over an inhuman half breed. he's made it quite clear that he hates his father and, speculatively, aids humans as a form of rebellion; ask yourself what Pietro really thinks of humans. now compare that description to Exodus. yeah, i think Magneto would kill him without hesitation if his son were to oppose him. that's not to say that he wouldn't welcome him with open arms if he were 100% obedient. it's just quite obvious that he doesn't have the love for Pietro that he does Wanda; alpha male syndrome.

[GraveDigger]

wow....uhhh where do I start
Doom does not have powers...he wheres a metal suit. Furthermore he never was on the voyage with the Fantastic Four. Doom was Victor Von Doom a young boy whose family was killed by an oppressive Latverian government due to the fact that they were gypsies. Doom, a brillant child, pursued education at ESU and met his first "friend" Reed Richards. Reed was involved in an experiment designed to contact Doom's mother that backfired and scarred Doom horribly. Doom was horrified that he had been made imperfect so he wandered into the land of Tibet where the mystic Monks who had trained his mother made him a suit of armor with the power of a nuclear reactor. Doom put the mask of this suit on while it was still hot and burned his face beyond recognition. From there he plotted. Upon learning of a buried treasure Doom enlisted the FF by capturing Sue (whom he never previously met) and made them enter a time portal to retrieve a device. Reed tricked Doom and Doom fled. Doom would go on to use his SUIT OF ARMOR to overthrow the Latverian government and ascede to the thrown.

You forgot to mention that Doom is a master sorcerer. He even trained with Strange, And Strange commented that Doom could be more powerful than himself one day.

[rigel7soldiers]

Doom has one supewrpower: he can tranfer his mind into another person's body.

[-Æ-]

I choosed other, and that would have to be Apocalypse! Reason why is because of all of the villians I can think of, Overlord Apocalypse is the most underated villian of them all. Even though he has be thrwated in the past by many enemies, he still seems to test the eye of time to be able to overthrow his opponents. Someday, I will destroy Apocalypse, and be the supreme OVERLORD MWHAHAHA!!

[Jplaya2023]

I choosed other, and that would have to be Apocalypse! Reason why is because of all of the villians I can think of, Overlord Apocalypse is the most underated villian of them all. Even though he has be thrwated in the past by many enemies, he still seems to test the eye of time to be able to overthrow his opponents. Someday, I will destroy Apocalypse, and be the supreme OVERLORD MWHAHAHA!!

yeah i forgot about apoc who do you think wins in a fight apocolyspe or onslaught

[Muze]

yeah i forgot about apoc who do you think wins in a fight apocolyspe or onslaught

Onslaught. no contest. during AoA, an old Magneto at half power beat Apocalypse in a solo fight. Onslaught is a full powered Magneto combined with Professor X, Franklin Richards, Juggernaut, and X-Man. there's a reason why Apocalypse was just chatting with the Watcher/staying far away from the battle during that story. powerful he may be but not Onslaught level.

[Jplaya2023]

Onslaught. no contest. during AoA, an old Magneto at half power beat Apocalypse in a solo fight. Onslaught is a full powered Magneto combined with Professor X, Franklin Richards, Juggernaut, and X-Man. there's a reason why Apocalypse was just chatting with the Watcher/staying far away from the battle during that story. powerful he may be but not Onslaught level.

what about abyss and onslaughT?

[Muze]

what about abyss and onslaughT?

well Abyss was still a pawn of Apocalypse in that world, so i'm giving it to Onslaught. heck, Banshee nearly killed Abyss (cool character btw) in that world.

[oregondude]

Wow, Doom is running away with this, odd. I was never much into him and his costume. Sort of corny how he wears this armor and that hooded cloak and of course, whenever he is losing a battle it turns out to be a doombot.



Boooooooooooooooooooring

[Sentry2005]

doc doom is winning by a mile!! wtf?!?!

[Muze]

it's not surprising when you consider how many Fantastic Four fans there are at the hype and how fresh in the minds Doom is because of the Fantastic Four movie. me, i voted for Magneto. didn't help that they put his name up there twice; thereby splitting the vote and confusing people. :)


and why isn't Thanos up there? or the Red Skull?

[Sentry2005]

lol, well that would explain it. i went with the joker myself, with magneto just behind (i don't really consider magneto a villain at the mo)

[rigel7soldiers]

Oh, hey, you know who else isn't up there? ****ing Darkseid is who.

[Sentry2005]

would have thought parralex could be.... or onslaught.... what about apolcalypse?!?!?!!?

[Muze]

Oh, hey, you know who else isn't up there? ****ing Darkseid is who.

yeah, but this is the Marvel Comics board.

[Jplaya2023]

why arent people voting for kingpin?? NY's biggest criminal mind a man who is almost invulnerable, punches dont hurt him kicks etc.. He can lift a few tons as well and has a bear hug that will squeeze the life out of you

[Shadowknight]

What, no option for Turner D. Century?!

[Jplaya2023]

What, no option for Turner D. Century?!

anything lower than a B level villian didnt make the cut sorry

[Muze]

why arent people voting for kingpin?? NY's biggest criminal mind a man who is almost invulnerable, punches dont hurt him kicks etc.. He can lift a few tons as well and has a bear hug that will squeeze the life out of you

wasn't he crippled by gangsters and deposed as kingpin?

[Jplaya2023]

wasn't he crippled by gangsters and deposed as kingpin?

no sir not to my knowledge last i seen/heard of the infamous wilson fisk he and spiderman were stopping carnage from destroying the world by destroying that time inverter machine carnage had.

[A_French_Gal]

yeah, but this is the Marvel Comics board.

It's actually open to all comic book villans though.

[Anubis]

Then you haven't read anything with Kingpin in it in a long time.

[Muze]

no sir not to my knowledge last i seen/heard of the infamous wilson fisk he and spiderman were stopping carnage from destroying the world by destroying that time inverter machine carnage had.


whoooWHAT?!

[Jplaya2023]

whoooWHAT?!

yeah its spiderman you should look him up more it was pretty intense. Carnage had tricked kingpin about using the time inverter to steal stuff, so when kingy found out carnage was gonna reverse the effectsand destroy the world. Kingping spidey, the scarlett spider and the other spiderman stopped carnage it was great

[Torchd]

Magneto or Dr.Doom

[The Question]

whoooWHAT?!


He's talking about the Spiderman:TAS series finale.

[rigel7soldiers]

anything lower than a B level villian didnt make the cut sorry

Dude, he was kidding. Turner D. Century is one of the lamest villains ever.

[The Question]

why arent people voting for kingpin?? NY's biggest criminal mind a man who is almost invulnerable, punches dont hurt him kicks etc.. He can lift a few tons as well and has a bear hug that will squeeze the life out of you


He can't lift a few tons. He doesn't have powers, and he's not invulrible. At most he can lift 600 pounds with serious effort. Next you're gonna tell me that Daredevil has superstrength.

[Keyser Soze]

Oh yeah, I was meaning to ask that. Is The Kingpin still blind? I mean, it's been a few years now, and in Marvel, big changes like that only tend to last that long.

[Jplaya2023]

Oh yeah, I was meaning to ask that. Is The Kingpin still blind? I mean, it's been a few years now, and in Marvel, big changes like that only tend to last that long.

when was the kingpin blind this is news to me WOWZA

[Harlekin]

Oh yeah, I was meaning to ask that. Is The Kingpin still blind? I mean, it's been a few years now, and in Marvel, big changes like that only tend to last that long.
Nope he has since recovered, but hasn't been seen for a bit after Daredevil royally kicked his ass and became the Kingpin. He's making his return though in the Murdock Papers.

[rigel7soldiers]

when was the kingpin blind this is news to me WOWZA

I'll assume the fact that he had a son would be news to you too, yes? You seem to know little about the character.

[Jplaya2023]

Nope he has since recovered, but hasn't been seen for a bit after Daredevil royally kicked his ass and became the Kingpin. He's making his return though in the Murdock Papers.

DAREDEVIL is now kingpin?

[rigel7soldiers]

Not anymore, as far as I know, but he was for a time.

[Jplaya2023]

I'll assume the fact that he had a son would be news to you too, yes? You seem to know little about the character.

Actually i been knew of fisk's son he was used quite often in the highly recognized TAS series

[rigel7soldiers]

The Rose was in Spider-
man TAS? H8uh. Learn something new everyday.

[Jplaya2023]

The Rose was in Spider-
man TAS? H8uh. Learn something new everyday.

the rose??? i dont know what his name was but kingpin had him take the fall for him in a crime case

[Keyser Soze]

JPlaya, do yo uactually read comics? Or do you just follow comic book characters through films and cartoons? It's not a problem, and you shouldn't let people think any less of you just for not reading comics, but I'm just curious...

[rigel7soldiers]

the rose??? i dont know what his name was but kingpin had him take the fall for him in a crime case
Richard Fisk was a crime boss as well. He wore a lilac mask and carried a rose.

[Jplaya2023]

JPlaya, do yo uactually read comics? Or do you just follow comic book characters through films and cartoons? It's not a problem, and you shouldn't let people think any less of you just for not reading comics, but I'm just curious...

nah im not really into the comics but i looked at some recently though. But they dont get into the charactor as well as the shows do from what i've seen

[rigel7soldiers]

Which comics do you read?

[Jplaya2023]

Which comics do you read?

batman - killing joke

spiderman vs superman

batman and superman

batman and spiderman

got some f4 i aint read yet

batman owns the hulk

superman and the terminator

[The Question]

DAREDEVIL is now kingpin?


Daredevil kicked the crap out of Fisk and declared himself the new Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.

[The Question]

batman - killing joke

spiderman vs superman

batman and superman

batman and spiderman

got some f4 i aint read yet

batman owns the hulk

superman and the terminator


Well, the problem right there is with the exception of The Killing Joke, those aren't really the best that the comic book world has to offer.

[Da Docta]

He's talking about the Spiderman:TAS series finale.
of course he is :up: :o

[Da Docta]

why isnt anyone voting for kingpin? well lets see:
you just said he is NYs biggest criminal, well there you go, NY,not the world, dumb ass

[Harlekin]

nah im not really into the comics but i looked at some recently though. But they dont get into the charactor as well as the shows do from what i've seen
Which is arguably one of the dumbest things to say.

No offense Jplaya, but the TV shows are actually based on the comics. The comics ussually show character development in a much better way, and a lot deeper than your average cartoon.

[Da Docta]

he doesnt understand the comics, so he watches the cartoons :)

[SpideyInATree]

Chose "Other"

Green Goblin (Norman Osborn) :bomb:

[Jplaya2023]

Chose "Other"

Green Goblin (Norman Osborn) :bomb:

green goblin bwahaaaaa he wasnt even spidey's greatest villian that goes to venom but green goblin was a nice foil for spidey though so he one of the top 5 greatest spidey villians

[Sarge]

green goblin bwahaaaaa he wasnt even spidey's greatest villian that goes to venom but green goblin was a nice foil for spidey though so he one of the top 5 greatest spidey villians
Have you stumbled into some sort of parallel universe where Venom is somehow Spideys greatest villian and Goblin is only a "nice foil"? :confused:

[Jplaya2023]

Which is arguably one of the dumbest things to say.

No offense Jplaya, but the TV shows are actually based on the comics. The comics ussually show character development in a much better way, and a lot deeper than your average cartoon.

nah itsn ot dum just where im coming from you know. Sometimes the tv goes into better character explanation than comics do from my experience. Liek for example in spiderman TAS kingpin is portrayed as a ruthless psychopath, a manipulator, a man who will risk his wife and son for the bettermen of "business". He was scorned as a child and the backlash followed him into adulthood. Here we have wilson fisk a man that just wants to be accepted into society but was scorned earleir.

How do they depict him in the comics???????

[The Question]

Exactly the same. Except even more ruthless.

[Sarge]

nah itsn ot dum just where im coming from you know. Sometimes the tv goes into better character explanation than comics do from my experience. Liek for example in spiderman TAS kingpin is portrayed as a ruthless psychopath, a manipulator, a man who will risk his wife and son for the bettermen of "business". He was scorned as a child and the backlash followed him into adulthood. Here we have wilson fisk a man that just wants to be accepted into society but was scorned earleir.

How do they depict him in the comics???????
You can't say that the cartoon Kingpin is depicted better than the comics Kingpin if you don't read the comics. Besides, both were pretty much the same.

[Da Docta]

green goblin bwahaaaaa he wasnt even spidey's greatest villian that goes to venom but green goblin was a nice foil for spidey though so he one of the top 5 greatest spidey villians
you ask for an opinion in your thread and this is what you say ass hole?
ignore him, he doesnt even read comics :o :up:

[Da Docta]

You can't say that the cartoon Kingpin is depicted better than the comics Kingpin if you don't read the comics. Besides, both were pretty much the same.
exactly :o

[Jplaya2023]

so in the comics fisk went around kidnapping people's wives, holding them as ransome cutting off his men limbs when they mess up, bench press 700lbs + had an affliction for punishment, sold his son out to the law and at the same time stop maniacs like carnage from taking over the world

[The Question]

Not exactly, but his son did try to kill him and take ove his empire, and acting in his place his wife killed him. Their own son. He'll kill his men if they mess up, he can bench 600lbs, and he doesn't interfere when supervillains try to take over the world.

[rigel7soldiers]

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[rigel7soldiers]

Not exactly, but his son did try to kill him and take ove his empire, and acting in his place his wife killed him. Their own son. He'll kill his men if they mess up, he can bench 600lbs, and he doesn't interfere when supervillains try to take over the world.

Though he was a member of the Acts of Vengence, along with Dr. Doom, Mags, the Wizard and the Mandarin.

[Jplaya2023]

I guess you never watched the FF animated series... you don't know crap about Doom.


are you talking to me???????

[rigel7soldiers]

Yes, although it was rude of me to bring it up. You don't have to respond, and I don't expect you too. It was also off-topic, and I apologize for this.

[Da Docta]

no, hes talking to me :rolleyes: :up:

[The Question]

Though he was a member of the Acts of Vengence, along with Dr. Doom, Mags, the Wizard and the Mandarin.

Yeah, but since then he's tried to stay out of globe shattering consperacy. It's bad for buisness.

[Jplaya2023]

Yes, although it was rude of me to bring it up. You don't have to respond, and I don't expect you too. It was also off-topic, and I apologize for this.


nah u answering the thread no apologies needed yeah i got ff4 season 1 on the pc

[rigel7soldiers]

Well, we were srt of talking about the Kingpin.

[The Question]

Jplaya, instead of insulting you, I'm going to try and help you. I am going to make a list of comics you should read and might enjoy:

Batman: Year One
Batman: The Long Halloween
Batman: Dark Victory
Daredevil: Born Again
Justice League: New World Order
Justice League: Rock of Ages
Justice League: World War Three


Please please PLEASE buy and read these.

[oregondude]

yeah, but this is the Marvel Comics board.

Joker anyone?

[oregondude]

nah itsn ot dum just where im coming from you know. Sometimes the tv goes into better character explanation than comics do from my experience. Liek for example in spiderman TAS kingpin is portrayed as a ruthless psychopath, a manipulator, a man who will risk his wife and son for the bettermen of "business". He was scorned as a child and the backlash followed him into adulthood. Here we have wilson fisk a man that just wants to be accepted into society but was scorned earleir.

How do they depict him in the comics???????

There was a "Spider-Man: The Animated Series" or are you getting your cartoons mixed up?

[Keyser Soze]

Okay, you want to know about comic Kingpin? Well, in the comics, Daredecil's girlfriend, Karen Page, became a drug addict. Desperate for a fix, she sold Daredevil's secret identity - Matt Murdock. This found it's way into the hands of none other than The Kingpin.

The Kingpin then began systematically destroying Matt Murdock's life. He blew up his home. He destroyed his career. He turned his loved ones against him. And when Murdock, with nothing to lose, tried to confront Fisk, The Kingpin beat him to within an inch of his life. Then he pumped Murdock full of drugs, and left him in an alley to die of a drugs overdose, disgraced and alone.

Did that happen in the cartoon?

[Shadowknight]

anything lower than a B level villian didnt make the cut sorry
Meh, more of a humorous poke at the people who keep complaining that X didn't make the poll.

Besides, what's more evil than the one villian that Mark Gruenwald didn't regret willing off in the Scourge storylline?

[SpideyInATree]

green goblin bwahaaaaa he wasnt even spidey's greatest villian that goes to venom but green goblin was a nice foil for spidey though so he one of the top 5 greatest spidey villians

:confused:

Go to your nearest book store/comic shop and pick up Essential Amazing Spider-Man Volumes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6

You'll notice very quickly that Venom hasn't even touched Green Goblin when it comes to villain status. You can't judge villains on your cartoon viewing. There are 40 plus years of comic book history behind Spider-Man. And Venom, while a great villain in his own respect, ranks behind Goblin and Doctor Octopus without a shadow of a doubt....and you can ask ANY Spider-Man fan that.

You need some comic education, son. :up: I've pointed you in the right direction.

[Dr Doom]

:looks at name:

What do YOU think my answer is?

[Shadowknight]

Dr Doom: going by your name, I assume that your favorite villian is The Gremlin.



:)

[Jplaya2023]

Okay, you want to know about comic Kingpin? Well, in the comics, Daredecil's girlfriend, Karen Page, became a drug addict. Desperate for a fix, she sold Daredevil's secret identity - Matt Murdock. This found it's way into the hands of none other than The Kingpin.

The Kingpin then began systematically destroying Matt Murdock's life. He blew up his home. He destroyed his career. He turned his loved ones against him. And when Murdock, with nothing to lose, tried to confront Fisk, The Kingpin beat him to within an inch of his life. Then he pumped Murdock full of drugs, and left him in an alley to die of a drugs overdose, disgraced and alone.

Did that happen in the cartoon?

well thats not to bad then kingpin showed he is gully but what about this. In tas kingpin once cut off a henchmen's figners because he messed up a deal, once kidnapped and raped tombstone's bosses daughter. Almost put peter parker in jail and began destroying NY piece by piece.

[Shadowknight]

Oh, the Leader's pretty nasty too. Nuked a town to kill the Hulk, rounded up the few survivors to brainwash them into being his henchmen. The survivors, obviously, had superpowers from the Gamma radiation. The other several thousands were just corpses, provided they weren't vaporized at ground zero.

[The Geek Vault]

I'd say Doctor Doom. OR I know he's not his really a comic villain but Scar from the lion king the guy kills his brother and blames the kid for his fathers death. then he rallies up some hyenas to take over the pride land.

[ShadowBoxing]

well thats not to bad then kingpin showed he is gully but what about this. In tas kingpin once cut off a henchmen's figners because he messed up a deal, once kidnapped and raped tombstone's bosses daughter. Almost put peter parker in jail and began destroying NY piece by piece.
no its not as bad....its wayyyy worse

actually that guy messed up the story

Kingpin drugged Matt and left him in a taxi cab that he pushed to the bottom of the Hudson. Mat managed to escape then ended up in an alley way.

The Kingpin also hired Typhoid Mary to seduce and kill Matt Murdock. He eventually sent four villians (Bushwacker, Shotgun (thats what they say in the issue summary but it is actually the guy he fought in Fall of the Mutants), Bullet, and Typhoid) to systematically trying to kill Matt Murdock. When they were confident of their success they dropped him off a bridge into a park where he was left to die. One of Mary's split personalities saved him

[ShadowBoxing]

nah itsn ot dum just where im coming from you know. Sometimes the tv goes into better character explanation than comics do from my experience. Liek for example in spiderman TAS kingpin is portrayed as a ruthless psychopath, a manipulator, a man who will risk his wife and son for the bettermen of "business". He was scorned as a child and the backlash followed him into adulthood. Here we have wilson fisk a man that just wants to be accepted into society but was scorned earleir.

How do they depict him in the comics???????yeah but I bet you do not know Kingpin's origin back to his early childhood like I do...how he washed his hands in the gutter to clean the blood off and was instantly hooked to killing.

Or I bet you cannot pyschologically break down Iceman who has had issues devoted to his past

Or I bet you've never read into Hulk that deeply. In the comic books for a time Hulk's ID, EGO and SUPEREGO (parts of frueds pyschie) manifested themselves into actually beings.

Or how about Wolverine, tell me his origin completely with break down because it takes me about 25 minutes to do that

Or what about Venom...you had no idea about his past, I corrected that part of your post

[ShadowBoxing]

Though he was a member of the Acts of Vengence, along with Dr. Doom, Mags, the Wizard and the Mandarin.thats true...but Acts was more of a comic gimmick rather than a true to life series. Kingpin typically stays out of world takeovers

[Muze]

thats true...but Acts was more of a comic gimmick rather than a true to life series. Kingpin typically stays out of world takeovers

heck, the Wizard was a part of that meaning. shows you how serious that storyline was.

[Jplaya2023]

wilson fisk should be respected more than this

[rigel7soldiers]

I know. I just read "Severance Package" (Tangled web of Spider-Man #4).

Guy runs a tight ship. Like clockwork. No second chances. The story is, after Fisk fired you, you snapped, and tried to kill him. He defended himself.

About the Wizard; I know his status as Reed Richards' other archenemy isn't that impressive, and that he's run afoul of Doom in the past, but... He watches the Daily Show. He's awesome.

Although, he needs to check his facts before he prints them in his magazine. Ba-Zing!

[Eyeballing]

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg

Any questions? :up:

[oregondude]

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg

Any questions? :up:

That is GREAT!!!

[Jplaya2023]

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg

Any questions? :up:

yeah whose is the guy on the right i cant see his face, isnt that one of superman's enemies?

[HERCULES]

yeah whose is the guy on the right i cant see his face, isnt that one of superman's enemies?

Not one of Superman's enemies. He's a marvel character named Drax the Destroyer

[Cubs Fan]

yeah whose is the guy on the right i cant see his face, isnt that one of superman's enemies?

No, whole different universe.

[Doombringer]

http://www.spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/images/DrDoomI_02.jpg

Dr. Doom was, is, and always will be the greatest comic book villain of all time.

[Eyeballing]

Not one of Superman's enemies. He's a marvel character named Drax the Destroyer

No, whole different universe.



For those of you that don't know. Jplaya2023 is currently the most loathed and least respected poster here at the Hype. Yes even more so than DevilHulk. Many of us have come to a few similar conclusions about Jplaya

He is either

A) A complete imbicile and knows nothing of comics except what he gets from the back of ceral and video game boxes. (which actually makes him funny to laugh AT, not with)

B) Posts the most ignorant and annoying statements possible just to hear people make fun of him because he is in desperate need of attention. (Which makes him a complete douche and should be kicked)

or

C) He is a combination of both A and B and is probably only 12 or so.

So just do what I do and ignore him. :D

[Brainiac 8]

I vote Luthor. Noone is more coniving and maniacal than Lex. He is the "Greatest Criminal Mastermind of our Time!":up: :)

[Brainiac 8]

Eyeballing...your avatar is just GREAT! Just wanted to tell you that.:)

[Guyverjay]

DOOM always wins these polls

[Da Docta]

Joker beat Mags :down

[Eyeballing]

Eyeballing...your avatar is just GREAT! Just wanted to tell you that.:)


Thank you :D :up: Greatly appreciated :D But I have to disagree with you, Lex although a great criminal mind, and possibly the greatest HUMAN criminal mind. Along with Doom. Still can't touch this guy, I mean that's Hulk and Drax at the same time with one hand.

OWNED!!!!
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg

[oregondude]

Joker beat Mags :down

Of course he did, Magneto is boooooooooooooring