Contest Of Marvels (Thread 1)

[deathshead2]

Thanos
Kang
Beta Ray Bill
Proctor

[Midnight Ice]

New Sun
Captain Britain
Tri-Sentinel (I wasn't going to vote for it, but you convinved me)
Xavier(same here.)

[POWdER-man]

Man a 6-6 tie.....

I am willing to extend the voting to finish this match. I really don't want to go to a second match. Nightwing is the only one who didn't vote yet.

I would rather lose than go through a second round.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Has Ended!

Final Results:

Xavier 6-6 tie with Thanos
Kang 9-3 over Captain Britain-Braddock
Tri-Sentinel 8-4 over Beta Ray Bill
Proctor 7-5 over New Son

[POWdER-man]

Aww.....crap.

That's like kissing your sister.
:D

[Phaedrus45]

Aww.....crap.

That's like kissing your sister.
:D

Hmmm...I always liked kissing your sister.

[Harlekin]

Oh, Phaed just went there!

[POWdER-man]

Ooooohhhh.....OWNED


Hey wait....that was me.....:(





:p

[Johnny Blaze]

God, I hate ties. :o :mad: :(

[POWdER-man]

God, I hate ties. :mad: :(

No kidding....:mad:;)

Although this rematch would probably be pointless because I am not going to come up with anything fun like that again...:(

However I take refuge in that, if this bracket didn't have a matchup with Death's Head in it or if Brodie "the wise" didn't decide to pop by, I would have won this matchup....:D I would have dethrone the king of this tournament....actually the more I think about that, I came within a hair of beating Thanos...:(

[Phaedrus45]

I came within a hair of beating Thanos...:(

Hair....Xavier...ha ha ha (Maybe you can come up with a crazy strategy of Xavier putting on a wig, throwing Thanos off his game, and giving you an advantage when he's on the floor laughing his butt off.)

[POWdER-man]

Hair....Xavier...ha ha ha (Maybe you can come up with a crazy strategy of Xavier putting on a wig, throwing Thanos off his game, and giving you an advantage when he's on the floor laughing his butt off.)

Hmmm...I smell Photoshop.....

[JewishHobbit]

Ouch, I expected New Sun to win this one,... dang it! oh well.

[Brodie The Wise]

I don't appreciate your stagnant bitterness, powder.

[Phaedrus45]

I don't appreciate your stagnant bitterness, powder.

Brodie, chill. He was just pointing something out. There is no bitterness, as he never expected his character to win. He was just pointing out a fact.

[Brodie The Wise]

aww, I was jsut joshing with you guys, I'm a josher, you should know that.


Love the joshing.

[wiegeabo]

I can't believe Proctor made it. I was just hoping for a close battle, but I'll take it. Of course, I did expect either Mimic or Adaptoid (or both) to move on...:mad: :p

Good match JH.

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg

BRACKET 1,

Match 5:

Victor Mancha(DEATH'S HEAD) bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Mancha)

vs.

Nightwatch(PHAEDRUS) bio (http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/marvelclassic/characters/nightwatch.html)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_cover.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=cover.jpg)


Match 6:

Warpath(NIGHTWOLF) bio (http://www.mutanthigh.com/warpath.html)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_warpath.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=warpath.jpg)

vs.

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spidergirl.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_spider2.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=spider2.gif)

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 5:

Dark Beast (BLAZE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/darkbeastaoa.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_darkbeast.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=darkbeast.jpg)

vs.

Frankie Raye (HARLEKIN) bio (http://comicscentral.tripod.com/marvelheroes/f/frankie_raye.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_12v3.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=12v3.jpg)


Match 6:

Thunderbird - Exiles (JH) bio (http://www.mutanthigh.com/alternatex/exiles/thunderbird.html)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_tbird.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=tbird.jpg)

vs.

Balder (HARLEKIN) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/balder.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_Balder.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=Balder.jpg)

[Harlekin]

nvm

[Phaedrus45]

Rematch:

Charles Xavier(POWDERMAN) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/p/professorx.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_profx.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=profx.jpg)

vs.

Thanos(BLAZE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thanos.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_thanos.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=thanos.gif)

[Harlekin]

Balder vs T-Bird
Like JH will say, this is a long and bloody fight, but Balder is still an Asgardian Warrior. He's seen real war, and he's not going to be pulling any punches against T-Bird once he recognizes his strength. Painful and tactic strikes on the vulnerable parts of T-Bird will still be fatal. T-Bird does bleed after all, and a few jabs in the eyes or similar places should really hurt the guy.

Winner=Balder

Frankie Raye vs Dark Beast
This is really no debate. Dark Beast can do absolutely nothing against Frankie and she holds the Power Cosmic. She can take him out in numerous ways and do so quite efficiently.

Winner=Frankie Raye

[POWdER-man]

Oh Yeah...Location....

This week's matches will be held on Mojo's World. Specifically in a battle arena to be televised on prime time all across Mojoverse. Mojo will be overviewing each of the matches and will use the prisoner collar to subdue anyone who attempts to escape the battle area.

[JewishHobbit]

Thunderbird (Exiles) Vs Balder

This will be a strong fight, but I'm really glad that this isn't taking place in Asguard, as it is there that Balder can't be harmed. So what this will come down to is a fist/sword fight between the two powerhouses. I'm not overly familiar with Balder, but he seems to be fairly impressive. However, Thunderbird is a former horseman of Apocalypse and has the strength to take down the Hulk (and not only did he take down the Hulk, he pulverized the Hulk) so when it comes to a fight of strength between the two, I think T-Bird has it in the back. It will be long, bloody, and angry, but in the end, Thunderbird will stand the victor.

Winner - Thunderbird (Exiles)

[WOLVERINE25TH]

WARPATH vs. SPIDER-GIRL

This is a pretty even match. Both are super strong, both are fast, and both have enhanced senses...in a sense (no pun intended). But what SG does have on Warpath is more playing room. While he's fairly grounded, SG can take to the skies and deal out some webbed fury. In her short career, she's gone up against some tough opponents she's had no business beating before, all because of that seemingly inherited Parker inginuity. If there are projectiles to be involved, SG's spidey sense will help her stay ahead of them and her repulsion ability can send them right back at almost the intensity of Warpath's throws. If the fight is up close, it all comes down to spider-agility and spider-sense keeping her ahead of his mighty fists. But after surviving that ultimate Skrull (2 arcs ago in SG) Warpath is really gonna be a cake walk compared to him.

And hey, let's show Marvel we want our girl! Vote Spider-Girl and pick up her comics! It's the best Spider-series you're not reading. Need more incentive? 2 words: "No" "Other".

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL

[JewishHobbit]

But what SG does have on Warpath is more playing room. While he's fairly grounded, SG can take to the skies and deal out some webbed fury.

Just wanted to point out a correction, Warpath can fly and has been able too for a few years (ever since the Counter X arc)

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Woah, woah, woah! Say what? Well, you said this' th' most WELL-KNOWN versions, right? Well, I'd imagine most people know James as bein' grounded so that's what I based it on. What t'hell kinda **** is this he can fly? That's such crap...no wonder I forgot it. 'Sides, they probably retconned it by now.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Ah, no wonder I didn't know about that...I'm missin' a couple of those issues an' th' ones I do have I skimmed. Counter X sucked.

[JewishHobbit]

Well I'm a big X-Fan, so for me I feel he's known enough to consider flying a main story,.... but the more I think about it I guess most wouldn't know he flies,... so okay, we'll let that go. He's still the Warpath like he was through most of X-Force. And I agree that his flying was stupid. It had something to do with his advanced senses and such, but I could never figure out how they related.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I can tell you how: they don't. Just some dumb writer tryin' to validate that Shockwave crap.

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, way to go Ellis.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

If they wanted to make him fly so bad a smarter way to go would've been havin' him do th' original Superman/Hulk method. Woulda made more sense. Still woulda sucked, though.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[POWdER-man]

Xavier vs Thanos

Thanos is the lamest character in the marvel universe...:p

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/img0265wm.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/img0242f44j.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/img0250mq.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/spidey20super20stories20039335.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/glxmas062jf.jpg

If Squirrel Girl, Ka-zar, and an 8 year old boy can beat Thanos than Xavier shouldn't have any problem...

Xavier does what he has too....
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/panel_nxm1b.jpg

WINNER Xavier

[Phaedrus45]

Victor Mancha vs. Nightwatch:

To put it in plain and simple terms, I don't think either of these characters really are worthy enough to make it to the fourth round. So, no debate for me, especially considering there is so little information about my character due to the fact Marvel was forced to kill him off. The only reason I would say to vote for my character over Victor Mancha is to say "screw you" to Todd McFarlane, that pompous ass.

Winner - You Decide

[POWdER-man]

As promised....

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/ThanosCopter.jpg

THANOS COPTER

[Harlekin]

I was just want to say I edited in my debates, so read those before voting.

[Johnny Blaze]

THANOS
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/Thanos1.jpg

VS

XAVIER
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/ProfessorX.jpg

Xavier does not stand a chance in this rematch. Thanos will be even more prepared for this fight, and would be wise to Xavier's tricks. The bomb would not work this time around (even though it wouldn't last time, but that's over now so I'll move on). There would be no talking this time. Thanos would not allow this to go on to another match. Being placed in a battle arena, there'd be no place for Charles to hide. Thanos would simple vaporize him with a blast of cosmic fire.
Xavier's telepathy would have no effect, and there's no weapon he could get that could penetrate Thanos' shields. Chuckles has had a good run, but he's outclassed in this rematch.


As for the Spidey Super Stories pics, for those who aren't aware those were joke comics. Still, the Thanos Copter does rule. :D
Shame it never made it into regular continuity. It would've been funny. :o :(

[POWdER-man]

As for the Spidey Super Stories pics, for those who aren't aware those were joke comics. Still, the Thanos Copter does rule. :D
Shame it never made it into regular continuity. It would've been funny. :o :(

Squirrel Girl still beat him in regular continuity :o, and Ka-zar beat his "clone" :rolleyes:....

:D

BTW, the only chance in this rematch for Charles would be to increase Cerebro's power to an unmeasurable amount and mental blast him to hell. Hey he beat the Dark Phoenix and the Shadow King (without cerebro), so why not.

Winner Xavier

come on give a cripple another chance...:D

[Johnny Blaze]

Squirrel Girl still beat him in regular continuity :o, and Ka-zar beat his "clone" :rolleyes:....

:D

BTW, the only chance in this rematch for Charles would be to increase Cerebro's power to an unmeasurable amount and mental blast him to hell. Hey he beat the Dark Phoenix and the Shadow King (without cerebro), so why not.

Winner Xavier

come on give a cripple another chance...:D Squirrel Girl beat him in a joke comic. A very funny one. To take that seriously is...well to be frank, stupid. And, yes, Ka-Zar beat a low level clone of the Titan.

As for the Cerebro thing, I've already said that Thanos is immune to telepathy. But, he would not take any chances a second time around. It would not be far fetched at all for him to have extra defenses up to make sure Xavier's tricks are futile. Being restricted to the arena would only make things worse for Xavier. Thanos could simply vaporize the entire place with a blast, killing Charles and all of the alien spectators. There'd be no way Xavier could take Thanos down before the Titan wipes him from existance. Especially with this being their second encounter and with Thanos having another 24 hours to prepare accordingly.

[POWdER-man]

Squirrel Girl beat him in a joke comic. A very funny one. To take that seriously is...well to be frank, stupid. And, yes, Ka-Zar beat a low level clone of the Titan.

As for the Cerebro thing, I've already said that Thanos is immune to telepathy. But, he would not take any chances a second time around. It would not be far fetched at all for him to have extra defenses up to make sure Xavier's tricks are futile. Being restricted to the arena would only make things worse for Xavier. Thanos could simply vaporize the entire place with a blast, killing Charles and all of the alien spectators. There'd be no way Xavier could take Thanos down before the Titan wipes him from existance. Especially with this being their second encounter and with Thanos having another 24 hours to prepare accordingly.

You know I was trying to be funny but I guess that went over your head. I frankly don't care to be called stupid.... although I didn't take that comic seriously, the implication was made and is certainly unappreciated....:o

I don't actually expect Xavier to win this time, I was thrilled that he came close to winning last time, and a tie is certainly enough to be proud of....

[Sparta*]

I can't believe those pics of Thanos! WTF?! especially the Thanos Copter?! lol!!!! What the hell were they thinking?

[POWdER-man]

I laughed my head off the first time I saw it.....which was at work and not a good place to do it...:D

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Nightwatch
Spider-Girl
Frankie
Thunderbird

Oops, forgot th' rematch...ummm, Thanos. Tough choice.

[wiegeabo]

Nightwatch
Spider-Girl
Frankie Raye
Thunderbird

[Brodie The Wise]

Nightwatch
Spider-girl
Frank Raye
Thunderbird
Thanos

[wiegeabo]

Forgot...Thanos

[Phaedrus45]

*Nightwatch
*Spider-Girl
*Frankie Raye
*Balder
*Thanos (Sorry, Powder. Even you realize what a rematch will mean with Thanos. But, I gave up my vote for Kitty; so, I think it all evens out.)

[POWdER-man]

Nightwatch
Spider-girl
Frankie Raye
T-Bird

Yeah well I knew it was coming, a rematch of this was pointless from the beginning. That's why I said I would rather just lose last time than to go to a rematch....but oh well....bye bye Charles....at least he will probably survive in spirit.....
Btw Charles Xavier (probably his only vote)

[JewishHobbit]

Victor Mancha
Frankie Raye
Spider-Girl
Thunderbird

Thanos

[Harlekin]

Nightwatch
Spider-Girl
Frankie Raye
Balder
Thanos

[Sparta*]

Spider-Girl
Frankie Ray
Balder
Victor Mancha

Xavier

[Johnny Blaze]

You know I was trying to be funny but I guess that went over your head. I frankly don't care to be called stupid.... although I didn't take that comic seriously, the implication was made and is certainly unappreciated....:o

I don't actually expect Xavier to win this time, I was thrilled that he came close to winning last time, and a tie is certainly enough to be proud of....
You're reading too much into it. I did not call you stupid at all. I said it was stupid to take a joke comic seriously. I didn't call you stupid, but I will apologize if that's what you think happened.
Wasn't trying to offend you, so if I did I'm sorry. :up:

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Yeah, callin' people stupid is wrong. They're "Mentally Challenged". ;)

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Nightwatch 6-2 over Victor Mancha
Spider-Girl 8-0 over Warpath
Frankie Raye 8-0 over Dark Beast
Thunderbird-Exiles 5-3 over Balder
Thanos 6-2 over Xavier

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Yeah, see, that, Marvel? People LIKE Spider-Girl! Cancel her at yer own risk.

[Phaedrus45]

I know. I was thinking that I will be honored to have my Nightwatch lose to Spider-Girl next round. Heck, I like her so much, I might have to vote against my character. Just think, you have an excellent chance to take Spider-Girl into Round 5!

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Heh while I understand th' sentiment, if you put up a good fight NW'll deserve to win.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

Final Results:

Nightwatch 6-2 over Victor Mancha
Spider-Girl 8-0 over Warpath
Frankie Raye 8-0 over Dark Beast
Thunderbird-Exiles 5-3 over Balder
Thanos 6-2 over Xavier

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Daymn, a shut-out. Wasn't expectin' that.

[Harlekin]

Not completely unexpected.

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg

BRACKET 1,

Match 7:

Avalanche(NIGHTWING) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/avalanche.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_avalanche.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=avalanche.gif)

vs.

Ezekial(PHAED) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ezekil.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_ezekiel.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=ezekiel.jpg)


Match 8:

Psylocke(NIGHTWOLF) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/p/psylocke.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_psylocke2.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=psylocke2.jpg)

vs.

Death's Head II(DEATH'S HEAD) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_180px-Death27s_Head_II2C_Issue_1.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=180px-Death27s_Head_II2C_Issue_1.jpg)

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 7:

Blackbolt (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blackbolt.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blackbolt.gif)

vs.

Abomination (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/abomination.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_abomination.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=abomination.gif)


Match 8:

Blob (NIGHTWING) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blob.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blob.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blob.gif)

vs.

Jack Of Hearts (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/jackofhearts.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_jackofhearts.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=jackofhearts.gif)

[POWdER-man]

LOCATION

This week's location will be held deep in the Canadian wilderness, on the snow-covered terrain of Calgary, Alberta during the bitter Canadian winter. This location was featured during the Weapon X program.

[Phaedrus45]

Blob vs. Jack Of Hearts: Sadly, all my matches against an opponent other than myself are against Nightwing this week, and everyone seem very one sided. For The Blob, we know that if you strike the ground that he is standing on, that is his weakness. Jack will know not to try to stike his body; so, shooting an intense blast of Zero Energy at the ground, he's knock Blob right off his feet. Then, a concussive blast to the head would help to take him out, as his eyes, ears, nose and mouth are all areas of his body that are not as resistant to injury as the rest of his body. Plus, except for the initial meeting with the X-Men, Blob is a character reliant on a team being around him and giving him instructions. This guy isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, that's for sure. His ability to research his opponent would be very limited.

Winner - Jack Of Hearts

[Phaedrus45]

Avalanche vs. Ezekial: Another team player (and definitely one of the weaker links on the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants) versus a person with the abilities of Spider-Man...only with much more experience. Face it...Avalanche isn't real well known because within his group setting, he hasn't done much. Plus, his abilities don't effect organic tissue. If he tries to use his abilities directly on Ezekial, they will only reflect the vibrations back at Avalanche. (He tried this battling the Hulk, and it made him shatter his own arm.) And, since Avalanche's only ability is in making vibrations against inorganic matter, coupled with the fact his has the same strength and endurance as a regular human, Ezekial would go right at him and knock him out.

Winner - Ezekial

[Phaedrus45]

Black Bolt vs. Abomination: I hate to lose my big, green giant...but, it's really not much of a match-up. Black Bolt takes Abomination easily.

Winner - Black Bolt

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[King_Mungi]

Ezekial [All though, how much coverage does the forest have?]
Death's Head II [he did take on the X-Men, Psy including]
Blackbolt
Jack of Hearts

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Ezekial
Death's Head
Black Bolt
Jack

[Phaedrus45]

*Ezekial
*Death's Head II
*Black Bolt
*Jack Of Hearts

[Trigger]

Ezekial
BlackBolt
Jack
Death's Head( I hate not voting for my favorites, but Psy doesn't take this one either.)

[POWdER-man]

Ezekial
Death's Head
Blackbolt(you know I hated voting for him...:D:D:D)
Jack of Hearts

[Sparta*]

Deaths Head II
Avalanche
Black Bolt
Jack of Hearts

[JewishHobbit]

Avalanche
Black Bolt
Jack of Hearts
Death's Head II

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Ezekial 5-2 over Avalanche
Death's Head II 7-0 over Psylocke
Black Bolt 7-0 over Abomination
Jack Of Hearts 7-0 over Blob

[wiegeabo]

Ezekial
Blackbolt
Jack of Hearts
Death's Head II

[Harlekin]

Ezekiel
Death's Head II
Black Bolt
Jack of Hearts

[Brodie The Wise]

Ezekiel
Death's Head II
Black Bolt
Jack of Hearts

[Da Docta]

Ezekiel
Death's Head II
BlackBolt
Jack Of Hearts

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Ezekial 9-2 over Avalanche
Death's Head II 11-0 over Psylocke
Black Bolt 11-0 over Abomination
Jack Of Hearts 11-0 over Blob

[Johnny Blaze]

Ezekiel
Death's Head II
Black Bolt
Jack of Hearts

[deathshead2]

Ezekial
Death's Head2 ( yep he did take on the x-men) :)
Blackbolt
Jack of Hearts

[Midnight Ice]

Ezekial
Death's Head II
Blackbolt
Jack of Hearts

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Ezekial 12-2 over Avalanche
Death's Head II 14-0 over Psylocke
Black Bolt 14-0 over Abomination
Jack Of Hearts 14-0 over Blob

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg

BRACKET 1,

Match 1:

Enchantress(SPARTA) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/enchantress.htm)

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pics/picse/enchantress.gif

vs.

Hyperion-Exiles(JH) bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(comics))

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_hyperion.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=hyperion.jpg)


Match 2:

Thanos(BLAZE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thanos.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_thanos.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=thanos.gif)

vs.

Kang(BLAZE) bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_the_Conqueror)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_Kang.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=Kang.jpg)

[JewishHobbit]

Looks like Blaze is losing one of his favorates this round, my suggestion would be to go with Kang :D

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 1:

Goblin Queen (BLAZE) bio (http://www.mutanthigh.com/alternatex/mutantx/gq.html)

http://www.mutanthigh.com/alternatex/mutantx/gq.jpg

vs.

High Evolutionary (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/highevolutionary.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_High-Evolutionary.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=High-Evolutionary.jpg)


Match 2:

Tri-Sentinel (WOLVERINE) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/trisenti.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_tri_sentinel.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=tri_sentinel.jpg)

vs.

Proctor (WIEGEABO) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/proctorgatherers.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_Sersicardproctor.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=Sersicardproctor.jpg)

[JewishHobbit]

Well, don't know location yet, so I'll just go on without it.

Hyperion (Exiles) Vs Enchantress

Okay, so Hyperion has the strength, quickness, and cruelty factor down on this match. The only thing he has to really fear from Enchantress is her ability to sway men to do her will, but the thing is, according to her bio, she has to kiss him. Now while Hyperion's shown in the past to enjoy getting down and dirty with the ladies, he's never just up and kissed a foe. He's more likely to know what this tournament's about and just go to town on the killing. Enchantress has some good mystical abilities, but Hyperion can take a hit. His speed is something way beyond what Enchantress can handle, and really all it would take is one hit to put her down. He can also attack with a variety of surounding materials at a distance (such as throwing a train at her), or with his heat vision. I mean, this dude snorted Holocaust like he was last week's crack and killed every hero of several worlds. One lone asguardian woman shouldn't be a problem.

winner - Hyperion

[WOLVERINE25TH]

TRI-SENTINEL vs. PROCTOR

Now this is an even match if I never did see one. Both are powerful, both can heal, both have advanced weaponry at their disposal. The one advantage for the Sentinel is it was BUILT to kill. Every fiber of its being allows it to be a massive, effectual killing machine. It's triple processors would allow it to register Proctor's moves and abilities and formulate multiple strategies to deal with him. It will rely on its shielding most during the fight and deliver a massive salvo of its weapons. Also, with its ability to take over technology, Proctor's could be subjected to its whims and made to be used against him. It took cosmic Spidey to hold up against this thing, so Proctor possibly manage, but in the end John Henry won't win against the machine.

WINNER: TRI-SENTINEL

[POWdER-man]

SORRY, SORRY GUYS...I was away from my computer this weekend and forgot all about this.....I still have a lot of ideas. I was actually going to go with the South African location shown in New X-Men, where Cassandra Nova helped release the Sentinels but I like your suggestion Blaze....

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU

This weeks location will be held in the tiny african nation of Wakanda. This nation is most known for it's rare Vibranium and it's ruler T'Challa(Black Panther). From the Woods of solitude, to the village and the Palace is in play.

[Phaedrus45]

Goblin Queen vs. High Evolutionary:

Well, I was wondering how this battle would go...but, then I found this bio that states:

Known Powers: The High Evolutionary possesses vast psionic power, further augmented by his armor.

Extrasensory Powers of Clairaudience, Clairvoyance, Cosmic Awareness and a form of Danger Sense;
Astral Projection; He can survive apart from his physical body for an indefinite period of time.
Mental Invisibility; the High Evolutionary is normally undectable even by other powerful telepaths
Aside from telepathically communicating with other humans, the High Evolutionary can also telepathically communicate with animals and cybernetic systems
Telekinesis used for levitation, flight, forcefields and blasts
He is an expert in linguistics and can even use a form of ventriloquism
Total Memory
Matter Creation--all types including lifeforms simply by his intense force of will.
His suit is designed to protect it's wearer at all costs
His suit can regenerate his body or create a new body for him if needed.
His suit provides complete life support for WyndhamKnown Abilities: Skilled in science, especially relating to genetics and engineering.
Strength Level: Strength level unknown


So, considering that the Goblin Queen's main power is telekinesis and High Evolutionary is basically invisible to her powers, all his extra powers would easily eliminate her.

This bio is found here: http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/High_Evolutionary

Winner - High Evolutionary

[wiegeabo]

Proctor vs Tri-Sentinel

I have to agree that this is a great fight. One that would be awesome to see. Proctor's array of powers against the Tri-Sentinel's ability to fight and adapt.

And as much of a killing machine as the Tri-Sentinel is, so is Proctor. This is a man who travels from universe to universe killing off the Sersi who lives there, an Eternal. That's no small feat. And he won't let anything get in his way.

He also has a variety of powers at his disposal. He can use his telekinesis to batter and toss Tri-Sentinel around. But his greatest tactic will be the teleporting in, cutting through Tri-Sentinel with the mystical Ebony Blade, and teleporting back to safety again and again. He can also use his energy blasts to keep Tri-Sentinel off balance and increase any damage caused by the blade.

Proctor may even be able to teleport inside Tri-Sentinel and attack it from the inside out.

Plus, Proctor may be able to find and use any Wakandian weapons. Heck, he may even be able to get his hand on some Vibranium armor to help protect him from injury. And if he is injured, he heals quickly.

It's going to be a long and bloody fight. But the Sersi killing machine will take it over actual machine.

Proctor wins

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Hyperion
Thanos
Evolutionary
Tri-Sentinel

[Trigger]

Hyperion
Goblin Queen
Thanos
Tri-Sentinel

[Johnny Blaze]

C'mon people, vote Goblin Queen!

Anyone who looks this hot...
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/GoblinQueen.jpg
...deserves to win. Right? Right? :D :o

[Trigger]

lol, I voted for Gobby because of how bad ass she is in combat. Why haven't you brought up the Goblin force in your debates?

[Johnny Blaze]

lol, I voted for Gobby because of how bad ass she is in combat. Why haven't you brought up the Goblin force in your debates?
Because, from what I gather, it's like the Phoenix Force in power and that would make her too uber for this thing. Even compared to beings like Thanos.

[Harlekin]

Hyperion
Kang
High Evo
Proctor

Sorry, Blaze, you know me, no debate is 'forfeit'.

[Johnny Blaze]

Hyperion
Kang
High Evo
Proctor

Sorry, Blaze, you know me, no debate is 'forfeit'.
Cool. Doesn't really bother me none. :up:

[POWdER-man]

Kang (Just because I don't like Thanos...:o....:D plus you get to choose anyways Blaze ;))
Hyperion
Proctor
High Evolutionary

[Phaedrus45]

*Hyperion (I think Enchantress could have taken him down...but, with no debate, I had to give it to JH.)
*Thanos (YES! Thanos vs. Hyperion. THAT'S A BATTLE!!!)
*High Evolutionary
*Proctor (Proctor has had some damn tough battles. Again, this could go either way...but, the human factor, being able to think out of the box, is the plus to me.)

[Sparta*]

Enchantress
Goblyn Queen
Thanos
Proctor

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Hyperion-Exiles 5-1 over Enchantress
Thanos 4-2 over Kang
High Evolutionary 4-2 over Goblin Queen
Proctor 4-2 over Tri-Sentinel

[TheWaterologist]

Hyperion
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Proctor

[Johnny Blaze]

Hyperion
Thanos
Goblin Queen
Tri-Sentinel

[JewishHobbit]

Hyperion
Kang (just because I don't want to face Thanos next round :))
Evolutionary
Tri-Sentinel

[Midnight Ice]

Enchantress (Man, Sparta*, you should have debated with Enchantress' ability to get any man to fall in love with her and do what she says.)
Tri-Sentinel
Goblin Queen
Thanos

[deathshead2]

Hyperion
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Proctor

[Sparta*]

Enchantress (Man, Sparta*, you should have debated with Enchantress' ability to get any man to fall in love with her and do what she says.)


Yeah I know, but this weeks schedule was confusing and I didn't know when the voting was going to begin. None the less, even if I did advance with her this week, Thanos would have stomped her next week.

[wiegeabo]

Hyperion
Kang
High Evolutionary
Proctor

[spartin2008]

Hyperion
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Tri-Sentinel

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Hyperion 11-2 over Enchantress
Thanos 9-4 over Kang
High Evolutionary 9-4 over Goblin Queen
Proctor 7-6 over Tri-Sentinel

[WOLVERINE25TH]

At least my loss was close.

[Phaedrus45]

At least my loss was close.

Sometimes I hate when I lose by one point more...it's like, "Maybe I could have argued just a little better..."

[POWdER-man]

Well the voting is still going. If victor, Nightwolf, or even Nightwing come around they could vote. So don't count out Tri-Sentinel yet.

BTW, yeah the only thing I hate more than losing by one vote would be tieing......:down:

[Phaedrus45]

Well the voting is still going. If victor, Nightwolf, or even Nightwing come around they could vote. So don't count out Tri-Sentinel yet.

BTW, yeah the only thing I hate more than losing by one vote would be tieing......:down:

cough, cough...(blackbolt)....cough, cough

[POWdER-man]

cough, cough...(blackbolt)....cough, cough

Don't remind me...:o I will never read an inhuman comic ever again....



:p

[Da Docta]

Hyperion
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Proctor

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Hyperion 12-2 over Enchantress
Thanos 10-4 over Kang
High Evolutionary 10-4 over Goblin Queen
Proctor 8-6 over Tri-Sentinel

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg

BRACKET 1,

Match 3:

Nightwatch(PHAEDRUS) bio (http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/marvelclassic/characters/nightwatch.html)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_cover.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=cover.jpg)

vs.

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spidergirl.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_spider2.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=spider2.gif)


Match 4:

Ezekial(PHAED) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ezekil.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_ezekiel.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=ezekiel.jpg)

vs.

Death's Head II(DEATH'S HEAD) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_180px-Death27s_Head_II2C_Issue_1.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=180px-Death27s_Head_II2C_Issue_1.jpg)

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 3:

Frankie Raye (HARLEKIN) bio (http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Nova_(Frankie_Raye))

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_12v3.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=12v3.jpg)

vs.

Thunderbird - Exiles (JH) bio (http://www.mutanthigh.com/alternatex/exiles/thunderbird.html)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_tbird.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=tbird.jpg)


Match 4:

Blackbolt (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blackbolt.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blackbolt.gif)

vs.

Jack Of Hearts (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/jackofhearts.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_jackofhearts.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=jackofhearts.gif)

[POWdER-man]

Location, Location, Location (huh I remembered...:) )

This week's location will be held at Asteroid M. This was the orbiting base for Magneto, who created it by converting surrounding asteroids into his home.

[Harlekin]

Frankie Raye vs Thunderbird (Exiles)

Frankie Raye has one major advantage over T-Bird, flight. Thunderbird is a tough one, and he even took on Galactus. In the end Frankie needs to use everything at her disposal, and that is going to meet pouring it on fully until Johnny gives. Besides, if sufficiently enraged, T-Bird loses control, and Asteroid M isn't the best place for that (space).

Winner=Frankie Raye

[JewishHobbit]

Thunderbird (Exiles) Vs Frankie Raye

At first I thougth I was surely going to lose this match. I mean, she's a herald of Galactus, and that means TOUGH! However, the more I looked into her the more I think Thunderbird has a great chance of winning this. She's tough, and the location gives her the advantage, but all it would take is one blow. Thunderbird wouldn't do that well in his normal form, but as he starts to morph into his death (or is it war) mode, he'd become formidable enough. Now Asteroid M is an environment that can contain life, so not too much problem there. He is tough and though she has the advantage of flight, he can leap very well. Think about the Hulk, does facing flying people stop the Hulk? Nope, and it wouldn't stop T-Bird either. All it would take is one leap to catch her to bring her down, then the match is his. Why is it his? Because I just learned that Frankie died by very conventional physical means. She was simply stabbed through the back. In his War mode, Thunderbird is very brutal and will due what's necessary to win. He kinda goes Savage Hulk. He's not stupid, just savage. It'd be tough, but once he manages to get his hands on her, whether it be through leaping and catching, hitting her with debrie, etc. all he'd have to do is whale on her and she'll go down, simple as that. As Harlekin said, this man went down only because he fought Galactus, and he technically won that match even,... so yeah, he can win this.

Winner - Thunderbird (Exiles)

[Harlekin]

Thunderbird (Exiles) Vs Frankie Raye

At first I thougth I was surely going to lose this match. I mean, she's a herald of Galactus, and that means TOUGH! However, the more I looked into her the more I think Thunderbird has a great chance of winning this. She's tough, and the location gives her the advantage, but all it would take is one blow.
I'm not going to dispute this, he really only needs to get her in one blow. There are only two problems with this. He needs to catch her (and she is faster than him as well) and he's going to have be able to withstand a full on Power Cosmic assault, and there's not many he are capable of doing that.

Thunderbird wouldn't do that well in his normal form, but as he starts to morph into his death (or is it war) mode, he'd become formidable enough. Now Asteroid M is an environment that can contain life, so not too much problem there. He is tough and though she has the advantage of flight, he can leap very well. Think about the Hulk, does facing flying people stop the Hulk? Nope, and it wouldn't stop T-Bird either. All it would take is one leap to catch her to bring her down, then the match is his.
Asteroid M is a very large place in itself, but not every room and every corridor is going to be that way as well. If T-Bird starts leaping around Hulk style, he's going to crash through the roof in no-time and find himself in space. It's not Asteroid M that is the problem, it's what is outside it... space.

Frankie simply has a lot more chances to lay it on T-Bird. She's got speed, and by making use of the smaller spaces, she can really lay it on him. All that she needs to be close to is an exit. Especially in his war mode, he's going to be huge, and moving through Asteroid M isn't going to be that easy, as some rooms will be really cramped, and voila, out of an air-duct, full on Power Cosmic barrage. Frankie flies away, storing up some more power and rinse and repeat.

Why is it his? Because I just learned that Frankie died by very conventional physical means. She was simply stabbed through the back. In his War mode, Thunderbird is very brutal and will due what's necessary to win. He kinda goes Savage Hulk. He's not stupid, just savage. It'd be tough, but once he manages to get his hands on her, whether it be through leaping and catching, hitting her with debrie, etc. all he'd have to do is whale on her and she'll go down, simple as that. As Harlekin said, this man went down only because he fought Galactus, and he technically won that match even,... so yeah, he can win this.

He can win it, but probality favors Frankie in this match. It'll be much easier for her to evade him than vice versa. While T-Bird is a very physical fighter, she can lay on the hurt from a distance, and it'll be hard to close that gap between them with
a) the Power Cosmic blasting at him
b) making sure not to jump through the roof
Choice b is going to be increasingly more difficult for T-Bird the more he devolves into his war mode, and although he doesn't become stupid, he does become very savage, and will be out of control.

To sum it up: Frankie has the speed, the flight control and the power to take him down, especially if the two end up space, since she can actually breathe there.

Winner=Frankie Raye

[Harlekin]

Frankie Raye vs Thunderbird (Exiles)

Hi, it's me again. I'd like you all to check out this respect thread for Nova (Frankie Raye):
http://superherochat.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=101346
It seems even I underestimated the power she wields.

Winner=Frankie Raye

[JewishHobbit]

Thunderbird Vs Frankie Raye

It's hard for me to measure the strength of cosmic power as I've read few cosmic comics, but while I know it's tough, I'd think that Thunderbird could take some abuse from it (I don't know how much, but some).

Now you've talked a lot about Nova and T-Bird fighting in closed quarters with the threat of T-Bird leaping through the cieling, but there's several things we must remember in this. First off, this place wasn't made by no novice, it was made by Magneto. It isn't some glass thing cieling, it's enough to withstand the pressures of space, metal molded by the master of magnetism himself. It's made of strong stuff and can take a beating by T-Bird before it gives. You also mention how Thunderbird will be at a disadvantage in the tighter spaces when it comes to dodging, but this is a two way street, as even with Nova's speed, she will have less room to manauver, making her an easy target for T-Bird to get at. His speed is impressive as well, and he can jump, dodge, and I'm sure riccochet off of walls to get to her, not just a straight jump. I can see him launching stuff at her and leaping himself so that she'd have to focus on more than one thing. If one thing lands, then she's distracted and he can take that and use it to his advantage. He'd be hurting I'm sure, but when he gets to her, it's over.

Also, you may have to correct me, but I've always been under the impression that Nova is fairly compassionate, good hearted. Would she go all out with her cosmic blasts to fry Thunderbird? I'm not sure, so I'll wait for your response on that. I will say though, that if she isn't, then when Thunderbird "hulk's up" he won't hold back. Will Nova?

I think we both agree that this match really could go either way, and it's my opinion that the location both helps and hurts us both. I really don't know how it would go, as I can see it easily going both ways. I think the question is, can Thunderbird get to Frankie to take her out, or would Frankie be able to stop Thunderbird before he can get his hands on her. I think he can.

Winner - Thunderbird (Exiles)

[Harlekin]

Thunderbird Vs Frankie Raye

It's hard for me to measure the strength of cosmic power as I've read few cosmic comics, but while I know it's tough, I'd think that Thunderbird could take some abuse from it (I don't know how much, but some).
Well that would depend on how much someone like the Hulk (which T-Bird is close to when he goes into war mode) could withstand. I'm not really sure either.

Now you've talked a lot about Nova and T-Bird fighting in closed quarters with the threat of T-Bird leaping through the cieling, but there's several things we must remember in this. First off, this place wasn't made by no novice, it was made by Magneto. It isn't some glass thing cieling, it's enough to withstand the pressures of space, metal molded by the master of magnetism himself. It's made of strong stuff and can take a beating by T-Bird before it gives.
Of course, and like I said, that would take a while, but when he starts getting into war mode he's going to get stronger and stronger, and eventually I can see him busting through one of those walls. The question is on how long Nova will be able to evade it.

You also mention how Thunderbird will be at a disadvantage in the tighter spaces when it comes to dodging, but this is a two way street, as even with Nova's speed, she will have less room to manauver, making her an easy target for T-Bird to get at. His speed is impressive as well, and he can jump, dodge, and I'm sure riccochet off of walls to get to her, not just a straight jump. I can see him launching stuff at her and leaping himself so that she'd have to focus on more than one thing. If one thing lands, then she's distracted and he can take that and use it to his advantage. He'd be hurting I'm sure, but when he gets to her, it's over.
But her speed is still significantly greater, being a herald of Galactus and all, and she's going that advantage allows her to scout out a room before they enter it. She's going to make sure there's an exit for her when things start to, heh, geto too hot.

You bring up a good point however in his use of the equipment around, but quick blasts (nothing in Asteroid M would be able to withstand much from the Power Cosmic) or blasts where they eject from her body and cover an extensive area.

Also, you may have to correct me, but I've always been under the impression that Nova is fairly compassionate, good hearted. Would she go all out with her cosmic blasts to fry Thunderbird? I'm not sure, so I'll wait for your response on that. I will say though, that if she isn't, then when Thunderbird "hulk's up" he won't hold back. Will Nova?
She is indeed a compassionate individual, but like what was posted in the thread I linked, she does have a certain edge to her. She's not going to fire at T-Bird with the intent to kill, but once she understands that he won't be holding back and take a hit, she'll undoubtedly unleash some of the power at her disposal.

Which also brings me to another strategy, as she can control everything about her flame. Obviously, her flames are powered by the Cosmic Power and do not require oxygen to burn, but I would wager she could control it thus to suck up oxygen nonetheless, and T-Bird still requires to breathe. It wouldn't kill him, but knock him out.

I think we both agree that this match really could go either way, and it's my opinion that the location both helps and hurts us both. I really don't know how it would go, as I can see it easily going both ways. I think the question is, can Thunderbird get to Frankie to take her out, or would Frankie be able to stop Thunderbird before he can get his hands on her. I think he can.
Definitely, this match really can go either way, but I just think that Frankie has more tricks at her disposal that will allow her to stop T-Bird before he can lay a hand on her. Guess we'll have to leave it to the voters.

Winner=Frankie Raye

[JewishHobbit]

Guess we'll have to leave it to the voters.



Sounds good, I don't think either of us will get any further in our debates of this match without just restating what we've already said over and over. Let's see what the voters have to say.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

NIGHTWATCH vs. SPIDER-GIRL

Nightwatch has a nice arsenal available to him, but May's faced his type before. She's gone up against armored heavies, aliens, super psychos and more and managed to come out on top. She has all the powers of her father plus some extra skills. May's inexperience doesn't stop her from taking down her foes and she has had a few tricks up her sleeve.

And I really don't know where else to go with this since I dunno much about NW, so I can't get too specific. You know SG, you know NW (I assume), so use your imaginations. Unless Phead comes up with somethin' I can counter.

WINNER (by popularity): SPIDER-GIRL

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Spider-Girl (Save our girl!)
Death's Head
Frankie
Jack

[Ahura Mazda]

Nightwatch
death's head
Thunderbird (the guy seems to find something to mutate into that enables him to fight anybody really; he even fought the Hulk :mad: and won)
Blackbolt (he could decide to open his mouth, not likely I know...)

[Phaedrus45]

*Nightwatch
*Ezekial
*Frankie Raye
*Black Bolt

[JewishHobbit]

Spider-Girl (though I really wanted to vote for Nightwatch)
Thunderbird (Exiles)
Ezekial
Blackbolt

[Phaedrus45]

Boy, I looked at all the threads, but seemed to fail to look at this one. Anyway, here is a brief write-up for my matches:

Black Bolt vs. Jack Of Hearts: I absolutely love Jack Of Hearts...but, I don't think he stands a chance. I give my buddy props for taking out Hulk in the first round. Plus, a vote for Black Bolt means we can continue to annoy Powderman. :p

Winner - Black Bolt


Ezekial vs. Death's Head II: Death's Head is a remnant from the 90's, and we know what 90's comics was like. Meanwhile, Ezekial is one of the bright spots in the Spider-Man comics of late. Remember, Ezekial has the powers of Spider-Man, but with even more experience. And, a vote for Ezekial means we might have a great match-up between him and Spider-Girl in the next round. ;)

Winner - Ezekial

Nightwatch vs. Spider-Girl: Nightwatch = Spawn. Spider-Girl = Spider-Man. The hard part of this match is in finding information about Nightwatch. There is very little out there; and, besides comparing him to Spawn, there isn't much about his powers. So, it's up to the voters. Plus, one of the main things that usually works against May Parker is her inexperience. In reading her comics, she still gets her butt handed to her, especially when fighting someone for the first time.

Winner - Nightwatch

[POWdER-man]

Spider Girl(I remember seeing NW in Maximum Carnage he seemed like a wimp in that)
Ezekial (guy can take on spidey, although I hate his guts)
Jack (just because.....:p)
Thunderbird (the guy is a monster in this tournament)

[WOLVERINE25TH]

NIGHTWATCH vs. SPIDER-GIRL

True, but those were all villains. NW is basically a good guy so gotta take that into consideration he might go a little easy on her. But really, May is no slouch and after all she's faced she's certainly come up in the webs. Also, she did pretty damn good against Namora who she definitely couldn't get any info about! (that is unless there's a rule we can't count past matches in our things, in which case they've done a bad job enforcing it)

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL

[JewishHobbit]

Nightwatch was a cool character, mostly while in his own ongoing. Unfortunately Marvel was sued and they killed off the character during the clone saga.

[Trigger]

Spider-Girl
Ezekial
BlackBolt ( a lot the stuff I've read about him has helped me realize how strong he actually is.)
Frankie Raye

[wiegeabo]

Spider-Girl
Death's Head II
BlackBolt
Frankie Raye

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Spider-Girl 5-2 over Nightwatch
Ezekial 4-3 over Death's Head II
Frankie Raye 4-3 over Thunderbird-Exiles
Black Bolt 5-2 over Jack Of Hearts

[Harlekin]

Spider-Girl
Ezekiel
Frankie Raye
Black Bolt

[Sparta*]

Nightwatch
Deaths Head II
Frankie Raye
Black Bolt

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Looks like we got a spider battle next round.

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

Final Results:

Spider-Girl 6-3 over Nightwatch
Ezekial 5-4 over Death's Head II
Frankie Raye 6-3 over Thunderbird-Exiles
Black Bolt 7-2 over Jack Of Hearts

[Harlekin]

I actually won? Very cool. Great match JH. :D :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Darn it,.. I was hoping for this one. Oh well, good job Harlekin :up:

[POWdER-man]

Location Location bo Bocation! Banana Fanna fo Focation! Fe fi mo Mocation! Location

The Location this week will be in the alternate universe shown in Marvel Zombies. Where a virus has turned all the superheroes into flesh eating zombies.....good luck







j/k


I thought I would give you guys a heart attack.

REAL LOCATION THIS WEEK

DUCKWORLD!!!! Yeah that's right. It's the home planet of Howard the Duck, where ducks are the dominant species. There will be plenty of ducks around, so feel free to kill any. You will be inside a city that is awfully characteristic of New York, but just more duck.

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg

BRACKET 1,

Match 1:

Hyperion-Exiles(JH) bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(comics)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_hyperion.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=hyperion.jpg)

vs.

Thanos(BLAZE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thanos.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_thanos.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=thanos.gif)


Match 2:

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spidergirl.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_spider2.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=spider2.gif)

vs.

Ezekial(PHAED) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ezekil.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_ezekiel.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=ezekiel.jpg)

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 1:

High Evolutionary (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/highevolutionary.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_High-Evolutionary.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=High-Evolutionary.jpg)

vs.

Proctor (WIEGEABO) bio (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/proctorgatherers.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_Sersicardproctor.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=Sersicardproctor.jpg)


Match 2:

Frankie Raye (HARLEKIN) bio (http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Nova_(Frankie_Raye))

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_12v3.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=12v3.jpg)

vs.

Blackbolt (PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blackbolt.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blackbolt.gif)

[Johnny Blaze]

Hyperion-Exiles(JH)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/Hyperion-Exiles.png

vs.

Thanos(BLAZE)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/Thanos11.jpg

This is the toughest test Thanos will have faced thus far in this tournament. Hyperion is a big time bruiser with class 100 strength, and so is Thanos. Still, Thanos is able to increase his strength, as well as his other physical abilities, with his ability to channel cosmic energy. They're both extremely durable and would be able to take a real beating from one another. They both have their ranged attacks.

Hyperion's big advantage would be his flight and his speed (even though in his last appearance it has been seen that Thanos can fly, or levitate. The true range of this power is still unknown). Still, Thanos his his big advantages as well, such as his natural Eternal powers of total molecular control, his ability to channel cosmic energy for a variety of effects, and transmutation.
The biggest advantage Thanos has, and a major one at that, is his vast intellgence. Hyperion is not the master planner Thanos is. Not even close. He's pretty much a super powered brute. A damn powerful super powered brute.

Thanos' most dangerous weapon is his keen mind. He is a genius inventor on the level of Reed Richards and is one of the greatest tactical minds in the Marvel U. With twenty four hours of preptime, Thanos would have plenty of time to learn about Hyperion (he is one of the biggest knowledge whores in all of comics and has been said to monitor Earth intently as well as other dimensions, so it is likely he has info on Hyperion) and gather a means to neatralize his powers: argonite (pretty much his kryptonite).

Thanos could also use his stasis gun on Hyperion to trap him in a stasis block. And the block would definitely hold Hyperion as it has held Thor when the Thunderer was stricken with warrior madness and in posession of the Power Gem. It wouldn't be hard for him to trap him in stasis and send him into a black hole or what not.

Bottom line, Hyperion is a tough bastich, but Thanos is just as tough if not tougher. And, with his superior intellect in science and battle tactics, and all his resources, Thanos should be able to pull out a victory in a good fight.

[Phaedrus45]

Just letting Blaze and JH know that I understand this will be a very difficult battle to decide on who to vote for. Heck, it could easily have been the final two characters if they had been in seperate brackets. With that said, I am not above bribery. I will gladly auction off my vote. :D

[Phaedrus45]

bump

[Phaedrus45]

Spider-Girl vs. Ezekial:

Three matches in one bracket...thought I'd start off with this meaningless match. (Why meaningless? Take a look at who the winner is going to have to face next round!) Anyway, this is an excellent match...but, it really comes down to age and experience.

Face it. Anyone who reads Spider-Girl knows that even though she's about to reach her 100th issue, the gal is still a novice at many things. She often gets her butt handed to her, especially when dealing with a foe for the first time. (Which, she would in this match-up.) Also, Ezekial would totally have the upper hand, as he knows all about Peter's spider powers and how they work. He's been using his powers all his life, and has even bested the original Spider-Man.

Winner - Ezekial

[Phaedrus45]

High Evolutionary vs. Proctor:

Again, I would like to draw everyone's attention to the following bio on High Evolutionary: http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/High_Evolutionary
As it states:

Known Powers: The High Evolutionary possesses vast psionic power, further augmented by his armor.

Extrasensory Powers of Clairaudience, Clairvoyance, Cosmic Awareness and a form of Danger Sense;
Astral Projection; He can survive apart from his physical body for an indefinite period of time.
Mental Invisibility; the High Evolutionary is normally undectable even by other powerful telepaths
Aside from telepathically communicating with other humans, the High Evolutionary can also telepathically communicate with animals and cybernetic systems
Telekinesis used for levitation, flight, forcefields and blasts
He is an expert in linguistics and can even use a form of ventriloquism
Total Memory
Matter Creation--all types including lifeforms simply by his intense force of will.
His suit is designed to protect it's wearer at all costs
His suit can regenerate his body or create a new body for him if needed.
His suit provides complete life support for WyndhamKnown Abilities: Skilled in science, especially relating to genetics and engineering.
Strength Level: Strength level unknown

Now, in regards to his total memory, HE will know everything there is about Proctor...he retains everything written about anyone...and, there would be enough about Proctor at this point that he'd have access to that knowledge. High Evolutionary will be prepared for Proctor in every way, and with HE's mental powers, Proctor won't even know where he is.

Winner - High Evolutionary

[Phaedrus45]

Frankie Raye vs. Black Bolt:

Well, Black Bolt's record speaks for itself. After a real easy opponent in the first round, Nick Fury, he's faced and beaten some of the best and most difficult characters that Marvel has to offer (and, very different in abilities): Kid Omega, Abomination, and Jack Of Hearts. And, for once, Black Bolt will be facing someone similiar in abilities that he just faced with Jack Of Hearts, Frankie Raye. So, logic would state that if BB can take down Jack, he'll be able to do the same with Frankie.

What's going to be a big time match-up will be if Black Bolt has to battle High Evolutionary next round.

Winner - Black Bolt

[WOLVERINE25TH]

SPIDER-GIRL vs. EZEKIAL

But therin lies his greatest downfall; Spider-Girl is NOT Spider-Man. Granted, May have trouble at first, but she's younger than E, meaning she can push a lot more than he can. Also, E has never given any indication of a spider-sense, which May has used a LOT more effectively than her pops has lately (bullet CATCHING, anyone?) plus the added bonus of tactile telekinesis. That's right, old Mayday can not only FLING stuff, but propel them at her foe. This, plus web-shooters, gives her the added advantage of range. And, of course, we have the old Parker determination. Ya know, when the chips are down SG pulls up all the rage, all the hate, all her emptions and rolls them up into a major smackdown (most recently, the Scrier). May is a whole new breed of Spider, and E may have met his match.

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL

[POWdER-man]

Frankie Raye vs. Black Bolt:

Well, Black Bolt's record speaks for itself. After a real easy opponent in the first round, Nick Fury, he's faced and beaten some of the best and most difficult characters that Marvel has to offer (and, very different in abilities): Kid Omega, Abomination, and Jack Of Hearts. And, for once, Black Bolt will be facing someone similiar in abilities that he just faced with Jack Of Hearts, Frankie Raye. So, logic would state that if BB can take down Jack, he'll be able to do the same with Frankie.

What's going to be a big time match-up will be if Black Bolt has to battle High Evolutionary next round.

Winner - Black Bolt

Just for clarification for those who may not follow as closely, because that statement is a bit misleading.

Phaedrus owns(ed) Jack of hearts so he made a choice in the end who he favored and chose to continue

As well as Abomination.....

And don't get me started on Kid Omega, don't be bringing THAT up...:rolleyes:




:D

[Phaedrus45]

Just for clarification for those who may not follow as closely, because that statement is a bit misleading.

Phaedrus owns(ed) Jack of hearts so he made a choice in the end who he favored and chose to continue

As well as Abomination.....

And don't get me started on Kid Omega, don't be bringing THAT up...:rolleyes:




:D

Yes, but Black Bolt has to still fight them, and the people chose who they believed won the match. I went with the votes each time, which with Abomination and Jack was a slaughter. And, Jack is very similiar to Frankie.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Although, Black Bolt woulda lost that fight. Jack can breath in space, Bolt can't. If he spoke and decimated the place, he'da been dead. If Jack had created a hole, Bolt woulda been dead.

[POWdER-man]

Yes, but Black Bolt has to still fight them, and the people chose who they believed won the match. I went with the votes each time, which with Abomination and Jack was a slaughter. And, Jack is very similiar to Frankie.

Hence favored (and debated).....if someone actually debated on Jack's behalf I don't think it would have had the same results...

[Phaedrus45]

SPIDER-GIRL vs. EZEKIAL

But therin lies his greatest downfall; Spider-Girl is NOT Spider-Man. Granted, May have trouble at first, but she's younger than E, meaning she can push a lot more than he can. Also, E has never given any indication of a spider-sense, which May has used a LOT more effectively than her pops has lately (bullet CATCHING, anyone?) plus the added bonus of tactile telekinesis. That's right, old Mayday can not only FLING stuff, but propel them at her foe. This, plus web-shooters, gives her the added advantage of range. And, of course, we have the old Parker determination. Ya know, when the chips are down SG pulls up all the rage, all the hate, all her emptions and rolls them up into a major smackdown (most recently, the Scrier). May is a whole new breed of Spider, and E may have met his match.

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL

Yes, I will agree with one statement, "Spider-Girl is NOT Spider-Man." To somewhat quote a famous political debate, "I know Spider-Man; and, Spider-Girl is no Spider-Man." To put it simply, Spider-Girl has a not-to-impressive rogue's gallery. If you put any of the villians that Mayday Parker has faced in a one-on-one match versus Peter Parker, I doubt highly that those villians would get a single vote. Meanwhile, Ezekial went head-to-head with Spidey and bested him. (Sure, he used drugs to amplify his abilities; but, there is no reason to believe he couldn't do it again.)

As with the spider-sense, there is nothing that says he has or doesn't have it. What we do know is that even though Peter does have it, it didn't help him. And, Ezekial is not going to be too surprised by anything that Spider-Girl throws at him. He understands these powers, he has studied them...something we've never seen Mayday really do. She knows nothing about the Spider-Gods and what her superhuman abilities really mean. That's a big plus to have in a battle between two people of similiar abilities.

Winner - Ezekial

[Phaedrus45]

Hence favored (and debated).....if someone actually debated on Jack's behalf I don't think it would have had the same results...

Not to me. I think the results would have been very similiar. To me, my toughest foe I've faced in any match was Kid Omega, hands down. The other three opponents were easy in comparison. And, as for debating changing the vote, I would hope that most people are intelligent enough to take both characters abilities into question when making a vote. There have been some times where a debate has changed someone's mind; but, for the most part people know these characters and probably still vote with what their gut tells them.


As for Wolverine's quote about the previous match, "Although, Black Bolt woulda lost that fight. Jack can breath in space, Bolt can't. If he spoke and decimated the place, he'da been dead. If Jack had created a hole, Bolt woulda been dead," I would simply point out another quote, "Other possible manifestations of this harnessed electron energy include electron energy blasts, flight, enhanced strength (the "Master Blow" being a superhuman punch), ability to survive in space, and the ability to analyze and manipulate matter." (Quote from Wikipedia.) So, it would be nice to have that statement stricken from record of anyone trying to decide who would win this match-up.

Black Bolt isn't all about his ability to speak, even though that is definitely his most devestating weapon. His abilities are all effected by his ability to harness free-floating electrons. As his bio states in one section:

"He can form a field of highly-active electrons around himself with the wave of a hand, said field being capable of deflecting projectiles up to the mass of an MX missile traveling at its maximum speed. He can create particle / electron interaction fields solid enough to be traveled upon, though this phenomenon is a particularly difficult and exhausting one. He can use these electron fields as extrasensory probes which are highly sensitive to other electromagnetic energy phenomena."

That alone shows that he would have been able to deflect anything that Jack Of Hearts OR Frankie Raye has to deliver at him. Also, if anyone remembers Frankie Raye, she wasn't the best Herald that Galactus ever had, that's for sure. In fact, it could possibly be debated she was the weakest of the group, even dying at the hands of Morg during the famous Herald Ordeal.

Winner - Black Bolt

[POWdER-man]

Not to me. I think the results would have been very similiar. To me, my toughest foe I've faced in any match was Kid Omega, hands down. The other three opponents were easy in comparison. And, as for debating changing the vote, I would hope that most people are intelligent enough to take both characters abilities into question when making a vote. There have been some times where a debate has changed someone's mind; but, for the most part people know these characters and probably still vote with what their gut tells them.



I am not looking at arguing this but the only reason why it was a difficult matchup because I debated the HELL out of it for TWO WEEKS. You called my character Kid Wimp because you had no respect for him. If those two were both your characters I imagine it would have had the same result as Jack and Abomination. Probably worse because you would have demeaned that character even more than you did when I had him. Plus no one would stick up for Kid Omega like I did.

Nick Fury was easy because it was a mismatch, so you really can't say that was a BIG accomplishment. The other two, if I had them(especially Jack of Hearts), I would have debated the match as best as I could. And I could tell you now it would have been a closer result, if it wasn't switched.

I am not debating this matchup, I just think it's a questionable tactic since you owned both characters and you debated for Blackbolt.

Harlekin could argue it any further because I was initially just pointing out something.

[Phaedrus45]

I am not looking at arguing this but the only reason why it was a difficult matchup because I debated the HELL out of it for TWO WEEKS. You called my character Kid Wimp because you had no respect for him. If those two were both your characters I imagine it would have had the same result as Jack and Abomination. Probably worse because you would have demeaned that character even more than you did when I had him. Plus no one would stick up for Kid Omega like I did.

Nick Fury was easy because it was a mismatch, so you really can't say that was a BIG accomplishment. The other two, if I had them(especially Jack of Hearts), I would have debated the match as best as I could. And I could tell you now it would have been a closer result, if it wasn't switched.

I am not debating this matchup, I just think it's a questionable tactic since you owned both characters and you debated for Blackbolt.

Harlekin could argue it any further because I was initially just pointing out something.

Actually, I have a lot of respect for Kid Omega. And, if I owned them both, I don't know who I would have picked. (I have even said that when we had the rematch, if it came down to me not owning Black Bolt, I would have chosen Kid Omega. Of course, it wasn't mentioned until after the match.) Anyway, the reason I'm debating it is two fold. One, the people did speak with very little in the way of me trying to convince them. And, it wasn't even close. Black Bolt won 14 - 0 over Abomination and 7-2 over Jack Of Hearts. And, to be additionally honest, if either Abomination or Jack went against Kid Omega, I sincerly believe it would have been just as big as a blow out, with or without debate.

And, my second reason for debating your statement is because both you and Wolverine made remarks against my debate...both of which I think were disparaging. You discredited the voting process and Wolverine made an untruth. And, that's alright, but this late in the game with so much at stake, it was really up to Harlekin to say if he believes my wins are a fluke.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I could retort, but I dunno if I wanna. Really is pointless considerin'.

[Harlekin]

I'll get into this whole thing tomorrow if you don't mind. School is the priority at the moment.

[Phaedrus45]

I'll get into this whole thing tomorrow if you don't mind. School is the priority at the moment.

That's cool. As you can see, I've asked for an extension on debating to let some of you guys get a chance to debate your matches.

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, I'd like to know how it is that I FORGOT about the matches this week?!!!

Alright, I'll try to have a debate up soon. If I don't get one up tonight then I'll try to have one up tomorrow sometime (busy couple of days).

[JewishHobbit]

Thanos Vs Hyperion (Exiles)

Man, this is a tough match, but I'll admit that Thanos has the overall advantage, but I firmly believe that Hyperion has a chance here. Please read through this NOVEL and get all that I say. See through the 3am tired rambling and find the truth, that Hyperion CAN beat the Titan.

The first mistake that I think anyone will make when thinking of Hyperion, is that they simply think of him as a "dumb brute" but he isn't just that. He's REALLY tough. I decided to list some feats that he's been shown doing during his time in the Exiles comic. Now note, any deaths were other worlds versions of the people, but nonetheless, they are them:

-Hyperion personally killed: Vision, an army of Sentinels, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Wolverine, Mystique, Magneto, Forge Quicksilver, Reed Richards, Thor, Magik, Hulk, Holocaust, and Namora. Not to mention countless other heroes of worlds that he tried to take over, and these people listed aren't even the people he had help with.

- He's quick enough to catch a fully running Quicksilver by the throat and snap it.

- He withstood the heat of a point blank meteor (while trying to stop it), the same heat that burnt Rogue to a crisp.

- His heat vision was enough to kill the Hulk with one blast, as well as disintegrate Wolverine, adamantium and all.

- He can survive just fine in space, just as Thanos can

- He snorted Holocaust through his nose!!!

- He absorbs solar and other types of energy of that nature, and it makes him stronger

- Namora turned his head completely around, breaking his neck. He laughed, turned it back around, and fried her.

- Each of his body's cells are like little batteries and they can rebuild themselves when damaged (though it can take time). He rebuilt himself from being evaporated to nothing but a head and shoulders.

- He caught Mimic's hand while in Colossus form, and crushed it with ease.

- As powerful as he is, he held his own against two alternate versions of himself just fine.

So all that is to show that he's one tough cookie that can take the beatings Thanos can dish out. He was able to fight two of himself just fine. He killed he Hulk with a single blast of his eyes. He snapped Thor's neck. He's tough.

However, I am not dense enough to believe that all his strength and heat vision to be enough to win this match. Fortunately he has killer resources, and he's not as dumb as you'd think. If this match just suddenly started and Thanos was before him, he'd just attack and mock and get killed. But he has a forced 24 hours to prepare, and I think that would help.

His main resource is 'home base.' He was the first person to discover the secret behind the Exiles and Weapon X, and he took control of the Timebreaker's layer long before the Exiles showed up to take it over. For those of you who aren't familiar with this, this is a place between dimensions packed with bugs. It's all crystal-like and it watches and records everything that happens in every dimension. Hyperion won't know who Thanos is, but he can go to these computers and search through the worlds and not only learn who Thanos is, but also all his strengths and weaknesses, not to mention any reality version of him. He can study all the ways his powers have been used and he can watch all the ways that he has died or fallen in battle. Needless to say, Hyperion will go into this match with 100% knowledge on Thanos. Thanos however, shouldn't know Hyperion from a hole in the wall. Yes, Thanos watches all that happens on earth, but no Hyperion has ever originated on Earth and has only visited rarely. It could be possible that Thanos somehow watched during one of these minuet times, but with no proof of it in the comics, and no mention of him ever witnessing or encountering Hyperion, I think it's best to assume he has no knowledge of him. Anything else would simply be making up stories and occurrences for the benefit of the match.

So advantage #1 is that Hyperion knows everything about Thanos, and Thanos knows nothing about Hyperion. This may be enough, maybe not, but wait, there's more.

The second part of this is that many think Hyperion to be a DUMB brute who isn't very calculated, or intelligent, but this isn't true. We learned that while he was in control of the Exile's current timebroker base, he watched the Exiles and made it difficult for them. He began to plan and think his way through this and showed that he can actually be calculating and intelligent. One thing that he did was place Holocaust on the team to make it difficult for them. Another is that he placed the Age of Apocalypse Sabretooth on the team so that he'd distract Blink and make her a less effective leader, which worked. He also analyzed Blink's powers and learned a way to keep her from hurting him, but vibrating and offsetting her shards. He can think, and he can plan if given time, which he has.

So now I think all this really helps Hyperion out. He can study Thanos, his history, his methods, his strengths, his defeats, his powers, etc, and he can prepare for them. Thanos is a master planner and intelligent, but he doesn't know what he's planning for. Also note, for the heck of it, that Thanos has been shown using a lack of common sense, nearly costing him. This can be seen as when he discarded a cosmic cube before claiming it's power, which was then used by Marvel to depower him of what power he had just gained (I think I got that right). He also showed his moronic side in the Infinity Gauntlet by depowering HIMSELF to battle the heroes of the earth. That nearly cost him dearly. I'm thinking he did something else stupid in that series in regards to the dead chick that got the gauntlet from him, but I don’t' remember what it was. Anyhow, Thanos isn't as perfect as people think, he has his flaws and he's had his moments of stupidity.

I think I’ve defended Hyperion enough, so the question comes, how can he actually BEAT Thanos? There are actually quite a few things he can do. Now, I’m going to have to leave some of this to your imagination as I don’t know Thanos that well and haven’t read anything with him in it, save the Infinity Gauntlet, which isn’t this version of Thanos. But Hyperion would prepare against Thanos by studying him and seeing how he’s fallen in the past. If there has ever been an item that took him out, he can travel to that world, claim that item, and bring it back. Then he’d take it into battle against Thanos to add to his already enormous power. Another thought is that he can study Thanos’ powers and calculate in the computers how he would be best to defend himself against them, and then do so. He can study Thanos’ control over his molecular structure and find something on some elseworld that can attack that and bring it into battle. Maybe he can bring things that have nothing to do with Thanos that are just powerful, things like the gun that Forge made that can kill the Hulk, etc. (man, this place is the best resource ever!).

Something that I’m thinking is that Hyperion absorbs such things as solar energy, and I wonder if that could extend to cosmic energy in general? I can’t say for certain, but it’s possible that Thanos’ cosmic rays could actually help Hyperion. If not, then he can at least put up with them for a while.

Some simple ideas is simply that Hyperion studies Thanos and goes toe to toe with him in a fit of strength to see who would win, maybe frying his head off before the match can even get too far in.

But for those of you who think that NONE of these other possibilities would work, or they’re too vague, here’s a last possible route that is full proof (if not a bit cheap). He can give himself a talus (the thing that Blink wears that connects her to the base). From this talus he’ll be able to access the things of the base, as well as the teleporting feature and such. He will possibly know that Thanos is too much for him, but he doesn’t want to lose, and he doesn’t’ want too cheap of a victory, so he’d study and research, trying to find the absolute worse place in the base’s maps. Then when he ports to the location, he and Thanos will encounter one another. Now Thanos likes to talk, and so does Hyperion, so they’ll meat and begin to discuss evil things as evil people do, trying to learn from one another. Hyperion will then simply use the talus to have the crystal base teleport Thanos to whatever planet/dimension that he deemed most worthy of torturing him. Thanos is removed from the battle with little effort, much to Hyperion’s dislike.

I know, I’m all over the place with this post, but I hope you can get what I’m trying to say… basically, Hyperion has enough resources to be a match for Thanos, and several ways where he can pull it off. If you want Thanos gone from this tournament, this is the round to make your voice heard! (And with that, it’s nearly 3 in the morning; I’m off to bed).

Winner – Hyperion (Exiles)

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos Vs Hyperion (Exiles)

Man, this is a tough match, but I'll admit that Thanos has the overall advantage, but I firmly believe that Hyperion has a chance here. Please read through this NOVEL and get all that I say. See through the 3am tired rambling and find the truth, that Hyperion CAN beat the Titan.

The first mistake that I think anyone will make when thinking of Hyperion, is that they simply think of him as a "dumb brute" but he isn't just that. He's REALLY tough. I decided to list some feats that he's been shown doing during his time in the Exiles comic. Now note, any deaths were other worlds versions of the people, but nonetheless, they are them:

-Hyperion personally killed: Vision, an army of Sentinels, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Wolverine, Mystique, Magneto, Forge Quicksilver, Reed Richards, Thor, Magik, Hulk, Holocaust, and Namora. Not to mention countless other heroes of worlds that he tried to take over, and these people listed aren't even the people he had help with.

Impressive, but nothing Thanos' couldn't do if he truly wished to kill them. He's killed/beat the ever-lovin' crap out of his share of characters such as Adam Warlock, Thor, Thing, Silver Surfer, etc.

- He's quick enough to catch a fully running Quicksilver by the throat and snap it.

Yep, which is why I said Hyperion's speed is his advantage. Just like Thanos' superior intellect and variety of cosmic manipulation is his.

- He withstood the heat of a point blank meteor (while trying to stop it), the same heat that burnt Rogue to a crisp.

Nothing Thanos could not do. Hell, he's survived an entire planet exploding without any injury. Was just kind of relaxing in the aftermath while floating in space.

- His heat vision was enough to kill the Hulk with one blast, as well as disintegrate Wolverine, adamantium and all.

Again, nothing Thanos could not do. Especially considering that Hulk was weaker than the 616 one. :o

- He can survive just fine in space, just as Thanos can

- He snorted Holocaust through his nose!!!
Nothing Thanos could not do; Holocaust is really overrated.

- He absorbs solar and other types of energy of that nature, and it makes him stronger

Yep, and he can also be drained of said energy. And has a clearly defined weakness in Argonite. Both things the Titan would use against him. But, I'll touch more on that later.

- Namora turned his head completely around, breaking his neck. He laughed, turned it back around, and fried her.

Yeah, it was a cool scene, and showed how tough Hyperion is. But, Thanos has survived attacks just as bad if not worse.

- Each of his body's cells are like little batteries and they can rebuild themselves when damaged (though it can take time). He rebuilt himself from being evaporated to nothing but a head and shoulders.

As you said, if it's a major attack it would take time. The battle would be over and Thanos would be victorious before Hyperion could reform.

- He caught Mimic's hand while in Colossus form, and crushed it with ease.

Nothing Thanos couldn't do.

- As powerful as he is, he held his own against two alternate versions of himself just fine.

Nothing Thanos couldn't do. He's survived and held his own against beings much more powerful than Hyperion (Odin for example).

So all that is to show that he's one tough cookie that can take the beatings Thanos can dish out. He was able to fight two of himself just fine. He killed he Hulk with a single blast of his eyes. He snapped Thor's neck. He's tough.

And so is Thanos. At the very least, he's just as tough as Hyperion is.

However, I am not dense enough to believe that all his strength and heat vision to be enough to win this match. Fortunately he has killer resources, and he's not as dumb as you'd think. If this match just suddenly started and Thanos was before him, he'd just attack and mock and get killed. But he has a forced 24 hours to prepare, and I think that would help.

No, I know he's not dumb, such as Drax. But, he's nowhere even near Thanos' league as far as planning and strategies go. Thanos would run circles around him in that department. It'd be like comparing a forest fire to a match. Just can't hold up.

His main resource is 'home base.' He was the first person to discover the secret behind the Exiles and Weapon X, and he took control of the Timebreaker's layer long before the Exiles showed up to take it over. For those of you who aren't familiar with this, this is a place between dimensions packed with bugs. It's all crystal-like and it watches and records everything that happens in every dimension. Hyperion won't know who Thanos is, but he can go to these computers and search through the worlds and not only learn who Thanos is, but also all his strengths and weaknesses, not to mention any reality version of him. He can study all the ways his powers have been used and he can watch all the ways that he has died or fallen in battle. Needless to say, Hyperion will go into this match with 100% knowledge on Thanos.

Actually, there are no other reality versions of Thanos. He's a unique being in the entire multiverse. And, yes, this has been stated in one of his appearances. One of the Infinity mini's IIRC. Might have been the IW series though. Can't remember off hand.
And Thanos' only real weakness is his feeling that he is unworthy of ultimate power. Thus, every time he gains godlike power, he set's himself up for his own fall. That would have no part in this match whatsoever. So, as far as finding an exploitable weakness goes, Hyperion would be out of luck.

Thanos however, shouldn't know Hyperion from a hole in the wall. Yes, Thanos watches all that happens on earth, but no Hyperion has ever originated on Earth and has only visited rarely. It could be possible that Thanos somehow watched during one of these minuet times, but with no proof of it in the comics, and no mention of him ever witnessing or encountering Hyperion, I think it's best to assume he has no knowledge of him. Anything else would simply be making up stories and occurrences for the benefit of the match.

The Squadron Sinister and Supreme have been to 616 Earth before. And it is known that Thanos has explored and mapped countless other dimensions. Considering how much of a knowledge whore he is (probably the biggest one in all of comics), it's not far-fetched at all to think that he'd have something on the entire Squadron, let alone Hyperion. Especially considering that Hyperion is not a unique being like Thanos in that there's different versions of him in a lot of different dimensions/realities.

So advantage #1 is that Hyperion knows everything about Thanos, and Thanos knows nothing about Hyperion. This may be enough, maybe not, but wait, there's more.

Again, that's a very far out assumption you make, Hobbit. Honestly, I'm kinda surprised by it.

The second part of this is that many think Hyperion to be a DUMB brute who isn't very calculated, or intelligent, but this isn't true. We learned that while he was in control of the Exile's current timebroker base, he watched the Exiles and made it difficult for them. He began to plan and think his way through this and showed that he can actually be calculating and intelligent. One thing that he did was place Holocaust on the team to make it difficult for them. Another is that he placed the Age of Apocalypse Sabretooth on the team so that he'd distract Blink and make her a less effective leader, which worked. He also analyzed Blink's powers and learned a way to keep her from hurting him, but vibrating and offsetting her shards. He can think, and he can plan if given time, which he has.

Yes, he's not a dumb brute, ala the Hulk or Drax. He is intelligent and will use sound tactics in a fight. But, as said above, he's not even close to being in Thanos' league when it comes to preparing for a match. Thanos has masterminded schemes that would make Doom jealous. With his resourses and genius he'd definitely be able to come up with a way to take him down, whether he knew his weaknesses or not. An example that I used earlier was his stasis gun. A gun that would hold Hyperion in a stasis cube for hours.

So now I think all this really helps Hyperion out. He can study Thanos, his history, his methods, his strengths, his defeats, his powers, etc, and he can prepare for them. Thanos is a master planner and intelligent, but he doesn't know what he's planning for. Also note, for the heck of it, that Thanos has been shown using a lack of common sense, nearly costing him. This can be seen as when he discarded a cosmic cube before claiming it's power, which was then used by Marvel to depower him of what power he had just gained (I think I got that right). He also showed his moronic side in the Infinity Gauntlet by depowering HIMSELF to battle the heroes of the earth. That nearly cost him dearly. I'm thinking he did something else stupid in that series in regards to the dead chick that got the gauntlet from him, but I don’t' remember what it was. Anyhow, Thanos isn't as perfect as people think, he has his flaws and he's had his moments of stupidity.

As mentioned above, the only time he's used a lack of common sense or shown stupidity like you bring up was when he possessed ultimate power. Deep down, he feels unworthy of having that kind of god-like power and sets himself up to lose it. If he felt himself worthy of that power, there'd be nothing anyone could do to stop him.
Other than those instances, and the joke comics like the Super Stories, he's used perfect common sense.

And the undead chick was Nebula, who claimed to be his granddaughter.

I think I’ve defended Hyperion enough, so the question comes, how can he actually BEAT Thanos? There are actually quite a few things he can do. Now, I’m going to have to leave some of this to your imagination as I don’t know Thanos that well and haven’t read anything with him in it, save the Infinity Gauntlet, which isn’t this version of Thanos.

So you make all these assumptions on the Titan when you pretty much have zero experience with him? Please don't take offense to this Hobbit as I do respect you, but I'm kind of disappointed. :o :(

But Hyperion would prepare against Thanos by studying him and seeing how he’s fallen in the past. If there has ever been an item that took him out, he can travel to that world, claim that item, and bring it back. Then he’d take it into battle against Thanos to add to his already enormous power. Another thought is that he can study Thanos’ powers and calculate in the computers how he would be best to defend himself against them, and then do so. He can study Thanos’ control over his molecular structure and find something on some elseworld that can attack that and bring it into battle. Maybe he can bring things that have nothing to do with Thanos that are just powerful, things like the gun that Forge made that can kill the Hulk, etc. (man, this place is the best resource ever!).

It really is a good resource. One of the reasons I got Blink for my DTL team. :up:
Still, wouldn't an item from another world not be part of his resourses? If that's not the case, what's to stop Thanos from doing the same thing?

Something that I’m thinking is that Hyperion absorbs such things as solar energy, and I wonder if that could extend to cosmic energy in general? I can’t say for certain, but it’s possible that Thanos’ cosmic rays could actually help Hyperion. If not, then he can at least put up with them for a while.

No, they would not help him. He's not the Silver Surfer, able to manipulate all forms of energy. He's pretty much Marvel's Superman, though a bit more powerful (at least the evil Exiles version is). He's strictly limited to solar energy. And his toughness should allow him to take a beating from Thanos' cosmic blasts anyway.

Some simple ideas is simply that Hyperion studies Thanos and goes toe to toe with him in a fit of strength to see who would win, maybe frying his head off before the match can even get too far in.

Thanos has survived much, much worse. I'd doubt his heat vision would "fry his head off". It would hurt and probably fry off his armor, but that's about it. And that's going under the assumption that Thanos is going into a fight without any shields, which he pretty much always has at his disposal.

But for those of you who think that NONE of these other possibilities would work, or they’re too vague, here’s a last possible route that is full proof (if not a bit cheap). He can give himself a talus (the thing that Blink wears that connects her to the base). From this talus he’ll be able to access the things of the base, as well as the teleporting feature and such. He will possibly know that Thanos is too much for him, but he doesn’t want to lose, and he doesn’t’ want too cheap of a victory, so he’d study and research, trying to find the absolute worse place in the base’s maps. Then when he ports to the location, he and Thanos will encounter one another. Now Thanos likes to talk, and so does Hyperion, so they’ll meat and begin to discuss evil things as evil people do, trying to learn from one another. Hyperion will then simply use the talus to have the crystal base teleport Thanos to whatever planet/dimension that he deemed most worthy of torturing him. Thanos is removed from the battle with little effort, much to Hyperion’s dislike.

Why do people always assume Thanos will just stand around in a fight and talk away? That's the biggest BS I've heard.
He would not exchange any kind of pleasantries with Hyperion pre-fight. Now, he would definitely talk while fighting, but he wouldn't just have a little talk with Hyperion before throwing down.
Thanos knows this is a battle. And, remembering his first fight against Xavier, he would take this fight with the upmost seriousness.
And what's to stop Thanos from simply teleporting Hyperion into a black hole for instance? It goes both ways.

I know, I’m all over the place with this post, but I hope you can get what I’m trying to say… basically, Hyperion has enough resources to be a match for Thanos, and several ways where he can pull it off. If you want Thanos gone from this tournament, this is the round to make your voice heard! (And with that, it’s nearly 3 in the morning; I’m off to bed).

Winner – Hyperion (Exiles)

Yes, Hyperion has an excellent resourse with the Crystal Palace. But Thanos has excellent resourses as well. From info (even stuff as obscure as the vital statistics of the common Asgardian), to weapons (his stasis gun that held in check a mad Thor who possess the Power Gem, and the gun was just a prototype at the time), to tech (his "Mobius Chair", if you will, that allows him to teleport across vast distances of space and through dimensions)...Thanos is one of the most resourse full (heh) characters in this thing.
And, like I said above, Thanos has no real weakness that Hyperion could exploit. However, Hyperion is suseptable to being drained of his solar energy and, the big one, Argonite (his kryptonite).
With his superior mind, being just as tough as Hyperion, having a more versatile power set, and twenty four hours to prepare for this fight with all of his technological resourses at his disposal, Thanos should definitely take this.

[wiegeabo]

Proctor vs High Evolutionary

What a tought battle. Both have a range of powers, with Evolutionary arguably having a nice edge. Proctor should be able to protect his own mind from telepathic intrusion, and counter Evolutionary's telekinesis with his own. And they've both got energy blasts and healing power (Evolutionary's healing is better though).

Proctor's problem is going to be countering High Evolutionary's suit, his ESP, and incredible intellect. So one strategy is for Proctor to keep quickly teleporting, preventing HE from getting a lock on him, and giving Proctor time to locate his adversary. At that point Proctor trigger HE's awareness, drawing fire onto himself, all for the purpose of teleporting the Ebony Blade into (or next to) the Evolutionary. HE's suit may protect him at all costs, but the Blade can cut through anything, and if Proctor attacks with it fast enough, he can shred HE's body. Now the suit will keep trying to heal, or replace, the damaged body, but Proctor will have the advantage.

The problem with this method is at best it could result in a long, drawn out battle. And the longer the battle goes on, the less chance Proctor has at victory. This means, while the teleportation may protect Proctor until he can mount an attack, his first attack is going to have to somehow disable the Evolutionary.

He can do that by attacking the chemical's in the High Evolutionary's brain. No matter how smart he may be, once Proctor attacks the brain, HE can be incapacitated. And there would not be any physical damage to heal from. Proctor can create the secretion of chemicals and neurotransmitters that bathes HE in sheer agony, preventing him from any coherent thoughts. Or Proctor could induce an almost narcartic euphorea in HE that makes him unwilling to, or uninterested in a, fight. Or maybe create such an intense depression the HE takes his own life. Or Proctor could just seize up HE's brain, making him unable to think or move, leaving him completely vulnerable to attack.

Once the brain is vulnerable, HE will fall.

Proctor wins

[WOLVERINE25TH]

E vs. SPIDER-GIRL

But, again, while E may know th' powers, he doesn't know MAY'S powers. Or May. An advantage there fer her, an' one she can take advantage of.

And, on another note; we all wanna forget about Totem and the Other, but we all love Spider-Girl. Vote with your conscience.

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL (by crappy editorial)

[JewishHobbit]

Hyperion Vs Thanos

Well, you've pointed out that all the things I brought up regarding Hyperion can be done by Thanos, but it was never my point to show he's better than Thanos, but rather that he's not just some brute. It was just to show some clarification.

I wasn't aware that there's no other reality versions of Thanos, but Hyperion can still study Thanos himself. And you claim that it'd be very believable for Thanos to have studied Hyperion and such because his Squadran Supreme version has been to earth before, and that Thanos has studied other demensions... however,.... Thanos isn't ALWAYS watching, and there's no proof that he ever saw them on earth (being that it hasn't even been that many times). No hint, no mention, no clue,.. nothing. He watches the world, but he hasn't watched it every second of its history. And though he has studied other dimensions, it is obvious that Hyperion isn't in all of them (as he isn't in 616) and with the vast amount of worlds there are out there, I think without proof that Thanos has infact seen or studied Hyperion (one person chosen out of the billions per world, or however many they have),... it's a safer bet to assume he hasn't studied him than he has. I think that's a bigger assumption on your part than mine. That stated, I'm still standing by my decision that Thanos would not know Hyperion (not an official CoM rule or anything, just my opinion as a debater, for clarification).

And that still gives Hyperion the chance of winning. Thanos is a master planner and all that, but if he doesn't know what he's planning against, he loses most of that extra edge. I'm sure he'll still come into battle prepared, but he wont' know exactly how to be prepared and he may bring some good, and some bad things to help him. Meanwhile, Hyperion will be able to know EXACTLY how to prepare. However, I will not go further into that, as I already have and I don't want to just quote myself.

It really is a good resource. One of the reasons I got Blink for my DTL team.
Still, wouldn't an item from another world not be part of his resourses? If that's not the case, what's to stop Thanos from doing the same thing?

Keep in mind that it was 3am when I wrote that, and I was thinking of the item taken still as a resource of the crystal palace, as he used it to find the weakness, and to locate the item of weakness. However, now that I'm more awake, I can see how that could be seen as wrong, and if it wasn't my character I'd probably argue against it myself, so I'm omiting that idea. Though he can still look for such items (of coarse, not having read the comics with him in them, I don't know if there ever was something that could stop Thanos in the past, but oh well, it's pointless now).

Your argument about Arganite is pointless as well, I will state, because (at least in my opinion, and it's up to the voters) I feel that Thanos wouldn't know anything about Hyperion, and thus, wouldn't know to use Arganite. So that weakness, (in my opinion) isn't exploitable in this match. The same goes for his solar power being drainable. Thanos wouldn't know that, thus, he wouldn't know to do it.

Also, in THIS (http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-hyperion.html) link to the normal Hyperion (whose powers still aply), it mentions cosmic energy a few times. Aparently he uses it to maintain his youth, as well as rechannel it into his eye blasts. It states that his body has the innate ability to metabolize cosmic energy. I only mention this so that any out there who may be thinking that "though he's tough, he can't hold up to cosmic blasts" I think this shows he can. I'm sure it'd still hurt him, but he deals with cosmic energy constantly. His body's use to it.

Why do people always assume Thanos will just stand around in a fight and talk away? That's the biggest BS I've heard.

I mentioned it because in the Silver Surfer issue I read (50 I think, right before the Infinity Gauntlet), he shows up before the Surfer, just talking, and the Surfer attacks him. He then goes on to talk for the remainder of the issue. And though I no longer have the infinity gauntlet comics to check, I remember him showing up on that little space island and just talking up a storm. So I thought it'd be safe to assume. But either way, if he doesn't do that normally, then he and Hyperion would fight, and at any time during this fued Hyperion could use the talis to send him to another dimension, or into the crystal wall where dead exiles go. I assume you're right in that Thanos could do this as well, but why would he? In fighting Hyperion he will find him tough, but I think he will feel able to take him. I picture him more liable to try to figure out Hyperion before just ending it. He does like to study people after all :)

And the last thing I'm going to mention before hitting the hey,... Hyperion would know that Thanos has a lot of technological resources. The Crystal Palace is a technological heaven. If he was able to use the palace to teach him how to be immune to Blink's power, I'm sure he can use the palace's technology to come up with something to take the power from other technological resources. He could probably do it straight from the main computer of the palace, and then during battle just access it through his talis. This is some assumption on my part, but with the quality and amount of tech in the crystal palace, something as small as an emp wave shouldn't be hard to figure out. This would be a big aid as I'd imagine it taking out some of Thanos' weapons, as well as his shields, and maybe even that little stasis gun you kept mentioning. Knocks that thing right out! :up:

So yeah,.. Hyperion still stands his ground.

Winner - Hyperion

[TheWaterologist]

When do we get to the votes, consarnit?

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[Phaedrus45]

Proctor vs High Evolutionary

Proctor's problem is going to be countering High Evolutionary's suit, his ESP, and incredible intellect. So one strategy is for Proctor to keep quickly teleporting, preventing HE from getting a lock on him, and giving Proctor time to locate his adversary.

This is the main problem with the strategy. Proctor wouldn't be able to get a lock on him. For, as it states in HE's bio, "Mental Invisibility; the High Evolutionary is normally undectable even by other powerful telepaths." One thing Proctor isn't is a powerful telepath. As Proctor's bio states, he has "limited mental powers." Proctor wouldn't be able to get a lock on HE...although, with HE's vast knowledge of both Proctor AND Duck World, HE would be able to find AND defeat Proctor.

Winner - High Evolutionary

[wiegeabo]

This is the main problem with the strategy. Proctor wouldn't be able to get a lock on him. For, as it states in HE's bio, "Mental Invisibility; the High Evolutionary is normally undectable even by other powerful telepaths." One thing Proctor isn't is a powerful telepath. As Proctor's bio states, he has "limited mental powers." Proctor wouldn't be able to get a lock on HE...although, with HE's vast knowledge of both Proctor AND Duck World, HE would be able to find AND defeat Proctor.

Winner - High Evolutionary


It says Proctor would avoid HE getting a lock on him, not Proctor getting a lock on HE. Proctor would turn all his mental abilities into a protective shield. Combined with quick teleportation, HE wouldn't have the time to lock onto Proctor and attack mentally. And by using the teleportation, Proctor can scour the city for his opponenet, attacking when he finds HE.

Proctor wins

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Frankie

[TheWaterologist]

Thanos
Apparantly I meant Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Bolt

[wiegeabo]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
Proctor
Frankie Raye

[Phaedrus45]

*Thanos
*Ezekial
*High Evolutionary
*Black Bolt

[JewishHobbit]

Hyperion (Agree with me, you know you want to!!!)
Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Blackbolt

[TheWaterologist]

Jew, you're mean, I'm tempted to vote against you on every one of your matches based on pure spite:(

[JewishHobbit]

You already have :D

[TheWaterologist]

Well, Damnit, It's Thanos:mad:

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Water, you can't change yer vote once ya cast it.

[TheWaterologist]

It was a mistype, I meant Ezekial the whole time:down

Oh, you mean the jewthing? No, that's jsut playful banter.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Can we get a rulin' on this from one of th' muckity-mucks? Pretty sure unless ya pull a Phaed an' vote fer two people in one fight can't change yer vote once ya post it.

[Ahura Mazda]

I would like to say Hyperion but I have to go with Thanos :(
Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Blackbolt

[TheWaterologist]

Can we get a rulin' on this from one of th' muckity-mucks? Pretty sure unless ya pull a Phaed an' vote fer two people in one fight can't change yer vote once ya post it.

I changed it when there were only three votes, it's not like I thought E was going to be voted off and I panicked, simple mistake

[Phaedrus45]

Hmmm....

I'll let JH decide since it involves our characters. The ruling does state that you can't change a vote once it's been cast...but, that's suppose to be if someone keeps debating and you change your vote. Now, if you messed up what you type, you should be able to edit quickly after it. (I've done this before, as we just saw, and I've done it when debating and stating the winner.) Either way, it doesn't bother me. Whoever wins is going to be cremated next round, anyway.

[TheWaterologist]

I changed the Spider-Girl/Ezekial matchup, not the Thanos one.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Yeah, but if I'm gonna get bashed by rules that others got away with, I'm gonna do some rule bashin' in return.

An' remember; th' last time had votin' discrepencies we got Bush. Twice.

[Trigger]

Hyperion
Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Frankie Raye

[JewishHobbit]

Sorry Brodie, but once a vote is cast, it stays. Even if it was a mistake. I'm alright with a change if you do what Phaed did and accidently miss a match and vote for two people who are actually facing one another,... but since you voted one person per match, it stays.

[JewishHobbit]

Hyperion
Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Frankie Raye

Yay, Trigger get's first round draft pick next season :D

[TheWaterologist]

Sorry Brodie, but once a vote is cast, it stays. Even if it was a mistake. I'm alright with a change if you do what Phaed did and accidently miss a match and vote for two people who are actually facing one another,... but since you voted one person per match, it stays.

WEll, fine, good for Spider-Girl

[Trigger]

Yay, Trigger get's first round draft pick next season :D

Don't play with my fragile emotions!:mad: ........I'm so delicate inside.:(

[POWdER-man]

Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt
damn I want to say Hyperion.....so I said it...(it's close enough that it should be closer)

[Harlekin]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
High Evo
Frankie Raye

I said I would debate the Raye vs Bolt match, but in the end Phaed hardly did beside posting some matches he won in this tourney, and that's been covered. It's a tough match, although I obviously think Frankie has a chance to win it. Winner=Raye

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Thanos 6-3 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 6-3 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 8-1 over Proctor
Black Bolt 5-4 over Frankie Raye

[Phaedrus45]

I said I would debate the Raye vs Bolt match, but in the end Phaed hardly did beside posting some matches he won in this tourney, and that's been covered. It's a tough match, although I obviously think Frankie has a chance to win it. Winner=Raye

Actually, I did say more than what's been said. First, I was awaiting a response to see what approach you might take. But, I did counter some arguments not mentioned by you, including this information which says why Frankie Raye's powers aren't going to effect Black Bolt:

"Black Bolt isn't all about his ability to speak, even though that is definitely his most devestating weapon. His abilities are all effected by his ability to harness free-floating electrons. As his bio states in one section:

'He can form a field of highly-active electrons around himself with the wave of a hand, said field being capable of deflecting projectiles up to the mass of an MX missile traveling at its maximum speed. He can create particle / electron interaction fields solid enough to be traveled upon, though this phenomenon is a particularly difficult and exhausting one. He can use these electron fields as extrasensory probes which are highly sensitive to other electromagnetic energy phenomena.'

That alone shows that he would have been able to deflect anything that Jack Of Hearts OR Frankie Raye has to deliver at him. Also, if anyone remembers Frankie Raye, she wasn't the best Herald that Galactus ever had, that's for sure. In fact, it could possibly be debated she was the weakest of the group, even dying at the hands of Morg during the famous Herald Ordeal."

So, I have done more than just say Black Bolt's record speaks for itself. (Of which, even you thought Black Bolt would take out Jack Of Hearts when you voted.)

Winner - Black Bolt

[Sparta*]

Hyperion
Ezekial
Black Bolt
Proctor

[Quentin Beck]

Thanos
Spider Girl
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt

[Johnny Blaze]

Hyperion Vs Thanos

Well, you've pointed out that all the things I brought up regarding Hyperion can be done by Thanos, but it was never my point to show he's better than Thanos, but rather that he's not just some brute. It was just to show some clarification.

Figured that. Still wanted to make sure people who didn't know much about the Titan to think that he didn't have his own impressive feats, or what not, as well. :up:

I wasn't aware that there's no other reality versions of Thanos, but Hyperion can still study Thanos himself. And you claim that it'd be very believable for Thanos to have studied Hyperion and such because his Squadran Supreme version has been to earth before, and that Thanos has studied other demensions... however,.... Thanos isn't ALWAYS watching, and there's no proof that he ever saw them on earth (being that it hasn't even been that many times). No hint, no mention, no clue,.. nothing. He watches the world, but he hasn't watched it every second of its history. And though he has studied other dimensions, it is obvious that Hyperion isn't in all of them (as he isn't in 616) and with the vast amount of worlds there are out there, I think without proof that Thanos has infact seen or studied Hyperion (one person chosen out of the billions per world, or however many they have),... it's a safer bet to assume he hasn't studied him than he has. I think that's a bigger assumption on your part than mine. That stated, I'm still standing by my decision that Thanos would not know Hyperion (not an official CoM rule or anything, just my opinion as a debater, for clarification).

Meh. From the ammount of knowledge Thanos has been shown to have (from the bio stats of an Asgardian, to interdimensional parasites, to Galactus' DNA), the fact that he's a colossal knowledge whore (as mentioned he's one of the biggest), and the fact that he's known to keep tabs on the Earth along with the rest of the galaxy, as well as other dimension/realities it's not that big of a stretch to assume he'd have some info on a powerful group such as the Squadron Supreme.
Especially an individual, such as Hyperion, who would stand out among the teeming masses of humanity like a sore thumb.

And that still gives Hyperion the chance of winning. Thanos is a master planner and all that, but if he doesn't know what he's planning against, he loses most of that extra edge. I'm sure he'll still come into battle prepared, but he wont' know exactly how to be prepared and he may bring some good, and some bad things to help him. Meanwhile, Hyperion will be able to know EXACTLY how to prepare. However, I will not go further into that, as I already have and I don't want to just quote myself.



Keep in mind that it was 3am when I wrote that, and I was thinking of the item taken still as a resource of the crystal palace, as he used it to find the weakness, and to locate the item of weakness. However, now that I'm more awake, I can see how that could be seen as wrong, and if it wasn't my character I'd probably argue against it myself, so I'm omiting that idea. Though he can still look for such items (of coarse, not having read the comics with him in them, I don't know if there ever was something that could stop Thanos in the past, but oh well, it's pointless now).

Your argument about Arganite is pointless as well, I will state, because (at least in my opinion, and it's up to the voters) I feel that Thanos wouldn't know anything about Hyperion, and thus, wouldn't know to use Arganite. So that weakness, (in my opinion) isn't exploitable in this match. The same goes for his solar power being drainable. Thanos wouldn't know that, thus, he wouldn't know to do it.

Also, in THIS (http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-hyperion.html) link to the normal Hyperion (whose powers still aply), it mentions cosmic energy a few times. Aparently he uses it to maintain his youth, as well as rechannel it into his eye blasts. It states that his body has the innate ability to metabolize cosmic energy. I only mention this so that any out there who may be thinking that "though he's tough, he can't hold up to cosmic blasts" I think this shows he can. I'm sure it'd still hurt him, but he deals with cosmic energy constantly. His body's use to it.

Never said he wouldn't be able to take a blast from Thanos. :confused:
I think he most definitely would.

I mentioned it because in the Silver Surfer issue I read (50 I think, right before the Infinity Gauntlet), he shows up before the Surfer, just talking, and the Surfer attacks him. He then goes on to talk for the remainder of the issue. And though I no longer have the infinity gauntlet comics to check, I remember him showing up on that little space island and just talking up a storm. So I thought it'd be safe to assume.

Yeah, that was when he had the IG and was the Supreme Power in the MU. He didn't really mean to do anything else but stall Surfer from reaching Strange, IIRC.

But either way, if he doesn't do that normally, then he and Hyperion would fight, and at any time during this fued Hyperion could use the talis to send him to another dimension, or into the crystal wall where dead exiles go. I assume you're right in that Thanos could do this as well, but why would he? In fighting Hyperion he will find him tough, but I think he will feel able to take him. I picture him more liable to try to figure out Hyperion before just ending it. He does like to study people after all :)

Actually, in the recent Annihilation Prologue, it's been mentioned that sending Thanos to another reality would not work since he can "move through realities".

And the last thing I'm going to mention before hitting the hey,... Hyperion would know that Thanos has a lot of technological resources. The Crystal Palace is a technological heaven. If he was able to use the palace to teach him how to be immune to Blink's power, I'm sure he can use the palace's technology to come up with something to take the power from other technological resources. He could probably do it straight from the main computer of the palace, and then during battle just access it through his talis. This is some assumption on my part, but with the quality and amount of tech in the crystal palace, something as small as an emp wave shouldn't be hard to figure out. This would be a big aid as I'd imagine it taking out some of Thanos' weapons, as well as his shields, and maybe even that little stasis gun you kept mentioning. Knocks that thing right out! :up:

So yeah,.. Hyperion still stands his ground.

Winner - Hyperion
I can maybe see his stasis gun getting taken out by an EMP, but it's highly likely that the ever brilliant Titan has fail safes designed in his personal shielding against just such an attack. After all, he's been around for hundreds upon hundreds of years. It is highly likely that he has encountered such an attack before in those centuries and has used his vast intellect to counteract it.
Even still, he would not need his tech to take care of Hyperion. His plethora of powers would work just fine by themselves.

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos
Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Thanos 8-4 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 7-5 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 10-2 over Proctor
Black Bolt 8-4

[TheWaterologist]

Oh, man, Zeke is gonna get boned by me:(

[JewishHobbit]

Actually, in the recent Annihilation Prologue, it's been mentioned that sending Thanos to another reality would not work since he can "move through realities".

If Hyperion sends him into the crystal wall, he'd be in a sleeping state, not able to teleport anywhere else.

[Midnight Ice]

Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt
Hyperion

[Da Docta]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
Proctor
Frankie Raye

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Thanos 9-5 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 8-6 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 11-3 over Proctor
Black Bolt 9-5

[POWdER-man]

VOTING HAS ENDED

Thanos wins over Hyperion 9-5
Spider-Girl wins over Ezekial 8-6
High Evolutionary wins over Proctor 11-3
Black Bolt wins over Frankie Raye 9-5

[Harlekin]

Can't say I'm surprised by the outcome. Congrats Phaed.

[Tank McGee]

Oh, god, I screwed Ezekial:(

[Phaedrus45]

Good matches, everyone. I knew I had a good chance of coming out with 3 characters this round...and, if I had to lose one, it was definitely Ezekial. He can walk away from his match with Spider-Girl to fight another day. Spider-Girl against Thanos reminds me of a week 1 match-up. But, who knows? Maybe Wolverine has some mad plan up his sleeve.

[Johnny Blaze]

Good matches, everyone. I knew I had a good chance of coming out with 3 characters this round...and, if I had to lose one, it was definitely Ezekial. He can walk away from his match with Spider-Girl to fight another day. Spider-Girl against Thanos reminds me of a week 1 match-up. But, who knows? Maybe Wolverine has some mad plan up his sleeve.
Actually, it's a little known fact that Thanos is allergic to webbing. Deathly allergic. :o

[Phaedrus45]

Actually, it's a little known fact that Thanos is allergic to webbing. Deathly allergic. :o

Ooooo....I just thought of a mad as$ plan! It's on the goofy side...but, I can see Slott running with it.

[Phaedrus45]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/CoM.jpg


BRACKET 1 FINAL MATCH-UP:

Thanos(BLAZE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thanos.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_thanos.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=thanos.gif)


vs.

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spidergirl.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_spider2.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=spider2.gif)

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2 FINAL MATCH-UP:

High Evolutionary(PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/highevolutionary.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_High-Evolutionary.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=High-Evolutionary.jpg)


vs.

Black Bolt(PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blackbolt.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blackbolt.gif)

[Quentin Beck]

edit

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Beck, yer about half a week early on votes.

[POWdER-man]

Yeah and obviously since you voted prior to debates I am assuming you don't know the rules. You must read the debates prior to voting after the voting has been announced to start.

[POWdER-man]

OHHHHH FARMER BROWN WHO HAD A DOG, AND LOCATION WAS HIS NAME-O. L-O-C-A-T-I-O-N, L-O-C-A-T-I-O-N AND LOCATION WAS HIS NAME-O

This week's matches will be held in Transylvania in Castle Dracula.

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2 FINAL MATCH-UP:

High Evolutionary(PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/highevolutionary.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_High-Evolutionary.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=High-Evolutionary.jpg)


vs.

Black Bolt(PHAED) bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/th_blackbolt.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/Phaedrus45/?action=view&current=blackbolt.gif)

Well, I get to own Bracket #2. Too bad I have to lose one of my two big powerhouses because of it. After thinking about it over the weekend, I believe High Evolutionary is going to take out Black Bolt, simply from the fact that he'd have a vast amount of information about the Inhumans and would be undetectable to Black Bolt.

Winner - High Evolutionary

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos(BLAZE)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/Thanos16.jpg

vs.

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/SpiderGirl.jpg

She's made it pretty damn far. Farther than I would've thought, and probably a few others would've thought, she'd go.
She should get credit for a good run, but that run ends here. Thanos has the advantage in pretty much every department. All it would take is one punch, one blast, one kick...and May is done. There would be no banter. No going easy. Thanos can see the finish line of this grand cosmic game in sight, and he will stop at nothing to continue on. May might dance around for a bit, but, eventually, Thanos will connect with an attack.
And when he does she's done.

[Phaedrus45]

Cool picture of Spider-Girl. I think it convinced me of Spider-Girls power. ;)

[Phaedrus45]

The more you look at those two pictures, it seems like a before and after shot. Before is Thanos getting ready to blast Spider-Girl...the after, Spider-Girl is standing there saying, "Nya, nya, nya, now I'm going to kick your butt."

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Heh well, there's my debate right there! Good job!

But, I'll also add this;

A vote for Thanos is a vote for Communism.

Vote your conscience. Vote SPIDER-GIRL

[Phaedrus45]

Heh well, there's my debate right there! Good job!

But, I'll also add this;

A vote for Thanos is a vote for Communism.

Vote your conscience. Vote SPIDER-GIRL

I'm dying to have the debating finish; so, I can give away my spectacular plan on how Spider-Girl could actually defeat the great Thanos. Like I said, it's a Slott strategy; but, a Slott strategy almost had She-Hulk advance once.

[Trigger]

I'm dying to have the debating finish; so, I can give away my spectacular plan on how Spider-Girl could actually defeat the great Thanos. Like I said, it's a Slott strategy; but, a Slott strategy almost had She-Hulk advance once.

emphasis on almost:o

[WOLVERINE25TH]

THANOS vs. SPIDER-GIRL

At first glance, this seems like a pretty one-sided match-up. I mean, it's Thanos, and it's Spider-Girl, right? But, perhaps, with Thanos' recent reformation, SG can appeal to his softer side and make it so she can take him down easily. He definitely won't fight as hard against her as he would have in the past.

And if it helps any, just remember: Squirrel Girl beat Thanos. Not a clone. Not a Skrull. Thanos. That's right, a girl who talks to rodents beat Thanos. So, why couldn't the daughter of the one-true Spider-Man?

WINNER: SPIDER-GIRL

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

[deathshead2]

Thanos(sorry spider girl) :(
High Evolutionary

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary

[POWdER-man]

Thanos
High Evolutionary(at least Black bolt gets his finally..;))

[Ahura Mazda]

Thanos
High Evolutionary

[Phaedrus45]

Thanos
High Evolutionary

(Now that debating is over, this argument CANNOT be used against Thanos. But, if I owned Spider-Girl, I would have used the following argument: What is Thanos' one weakness? Lady Death. Look at Spider-Girl...she has the same basic size and shape as Death. So, in Slottesk fashion, Spider-Girl would enter the battle dressed as Lady Death, totally making Thanos drop his guard. Turned on beyond reason, Spider-Girl seduces Thanos, convincing him to drop out of the tournament in order to appease her ladyship.)

[Harlekin]

Thanos
High Evo

[JewishHobbit]

Thanos
High Evolutionary

[bkhedr]

Thanos
High Evolutionary

[wiegeabo]

Thanos (really wanted to vote SG. Brilliant strategy Phead!)
High Evolutionary

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Thanos 8-1 over Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary 9-0 over Black Bolt

[Midnight Ice]

Thanos
Blackbolt
:xmen:

[Midnight Ice]

Thanos
Blackbolt
:xmen: