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SpideyVille

09-23-2009, 10:59 PM

I just read the review for it and IGn gave it a 8.7. It looks like it's a cool read, but my question is why does Clark look like he has a big version of TW's head on a little kid's body lol

gohei_

09-24-2009, 04:24 AM

I think he looks like Christopher Reeve, but maybe that's just me.

Ultimate_Superman

09-24-2009, 05:42 AM

I think he looks like Christopher Reeve, but maybe that's just me.
Your not wrong Frank said in an interview once after Superman and the Legion of Superheroes he started to draw him like Reeve because thats who he and the fans see as Superman.

Ultimate_Superman

09-24-2009, 05:47 AM

was it good first issue? i might be picking it up in next few days.
It is very good it has a few nods to the movies, a few nods to SV, a few nods to TAS (mainly there how he found out he was from Krypton and his reaction is right out S:TAS), a few nods to MOS and some to birthright. So it is a very good read if you like those things but the way it is shaping up given how the comic is now it will be leaning more and more towards the Donner/Singer/Pre-Crisis Superman/ with a touch of S:TAS later down the line then anything else give how Up, Up, and Away, Last Son, Superman and the Legion of Superheroes, and his other arcs have been. Just to be clear while the book does make subtle nods to Smallville it more or less makes those nods in terms of how he dresses in Smallville and how his heat vision came about then put actual elements of Smallville in the origin the real big thing you'll find that comes out of SV is how he learned he could fly. For his time in SV it draws more from Superman: TAS and Birthright of some sorts then anything.

Webhead2006

09-24-2009, 10:36 AM

SpideyVille

09-24-2009, 11:37 AM

Yea I see the resemblance to Reeve now in the face, but the hair still makes me think of Welling, especially from the earlier years of the series.

The Caped Knight

09-24-2009, 12:15 PM

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Ultimate_Superman

09-24-2009, 12:36 PM

ok yea i might try picking it up today or tomorrow from one of the 3 local shops i go too. Yes i read that frank guy likes Reeve's look for superman and he was drawing on that for this series. I said it before i do lik reeve's look for superman. But for all mediums now we should try and form a new look for superman. Also yea i know johns favors silver age/donner stuff more. But hopefully he want make it solely on that to much. We dont need to relive that takes again.
Then my friend you will be disappointed if you have read the interviews and comics since IC thats the direction they have chose to go in since IC. Didio wants to take Superman back to his silver age roots and Secret origin was something Donner and Johns planned to do a while back but got side tracked.

Webhead2006

09-24-2009, 01:39 PM

oh i am not totally disapointed in that. I was just meaning in future media takes i dont want superman to be solely based on that take again. I see why tey are going back partially for this title due to johns favors it and other reasons probably since donner's take is favored more. I just dont want to see future media takes of the character to be stuck in silver age/donner stuff fully. I rather see a more rounded out take drawing from many takes on the character.

Ultimate_Superman

09-24-2009, 01:43 PM

Webhead2006

09-24-2009, 01:47 PM

well i said this over in the supes board. I would like to see the next people who take the reigns of superman. To look at all eras from 30s- present day. See what elements from each era made the character who they were from those peroids. That the fans overall agree what the best trait. Then compsite them together into a new superman. Maybe base the new films off certain top stories from any era like how folks say bb/tdk are based of certain batman stories. then give us a fresh look at things and a original story.

The Caped Knight

09-24-2009, 01:49 PM

You guys should read Superman: Secret Origins. There a few nods to Smallville in that book. For example Clark likes to wear the red jacket with the blue shirt, and how heat vision came about, as well as Chloe in name only (you'll see when you read it). So far Johns is redoing Superman with a mix of the Donner/Singer movies and Smallville and S:TAS.

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The Caped Knight

09-24-2009, 01:55 PM

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Ultimate_Superman

09-24-2009, 02:03 PM

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http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp107/mxyzptlk_pics/Miscellaneous/Superman%20Secret%20Origin/secretorigin5.jpgThis is the scene I was talking about that comes stright out of S:TAS it is when Clark finds out he is from Krypton only thing different is he learned to fly then while running away.

The Caped Knight

09-24-2009, 02:14 PM

This is the scene I was talking about that comes stright out of S:TAS it is when Clark finds out he is from Krypton only thing different is he learned to fly then while running away.

Yeah it is straight from STAS : The Last Son of Krypton . (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/reviews/lastsonofkrypton/)

Secret Origins has a lot of references to almost every incarnation of Superman over the characters 70 years history . (The Comics, - Live Action Television Series, - Animation, & the Donner films .)

The Caped Knight

09-24-2009, 02:35 PM

SV Fan

09-24-2009, 10:25 PM

Jonathan & Martha do look very much like John Schneider & Annette O'Toole

I actually think Lana looks like a young AoT, the mom looks more like Martha from L&C: TNAoS.

The give a slight Chloe shout out if you notice on Pete's cast you can see somebody named Chloe S.... signed it, the part after the S is covered up.

Ultimate_Superman

09-25-2009, 06:56 AM

Jor-EL looks like Marlon Bando with a mixture of Terence Stamp with the beard
Lara's a Blonde with a slight resemblance to Helen Slater
Jonathan & Martha do look very much like John Schneider & Annette O'Toole
The way Johns has done things in terms of Superman since post IC Jor-El is suppose to be a mix between Brando and Sean Connery (see Superman: Last Son for what they thought Jor-El should look like), Lex since post IC has look more like Kevin Spacey. Superman looks more like Christopher Reeve, Metropolis is Singer's Metropolis right down to the Daily Planet and the Kent's resemble a mix between L&C and S:TAS. While Lois, Perry, Jimmy, and Lana have had their own look although Lois is drawn more like Kidder. Smallville or The Kent farm is a mix between Singer and SV farm. So as far as the art goes Johns really for the most part took from all parts of the Superman history.

The Caped Knight

09-25-2009, 07:36 AM

Phonebooth phone Call between Lois & Superman/Clark Kent

http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/2009-09-22-wednesday-comics-ch12_N.htm

ZIPBAGS

09-25-2009, 09:57 AM

So it looks like they are bring Superboy back into existance.

Webhead2006

09-25-2009, 02:21 PM

It does look like a solid read. As i said before i might try picking it up in the coming days.

ironman29758

09-25-2009, 07:02 PM

ok yea i might try picking it up today or tomorrow from one of the 3 local shops i go too. Yes i read that frank guy likes Reeve's look for superman and he was drawing on that for this series. I said it before i do lik reeve's look for superman. But for all mediums now we should try and form a new look for superman. Also yea i know johns favors silver age/donner stuff more. But hopefully he want make it solely on that to much. We dont need to relive that takes again.
well that what Smallville, birthright, Ruby Spears Superman and STAS did

The Caped Knight

10-05-2009, 11:06 PM

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Webhead2006

10-06-2009, 08:51 AM

that is a nice variant cover.

The Caped Knight

10-07-2009, 07:40 PM

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Lois Lane is arrested by the government , Just like in smallville episode "Apocalypse" .

Sawyer

10-07-2009, 07:51 PM

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:D:up:

Fresh Prince

10-07-2009, 08:37 PM

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Even then Luthor was a prick.

Bnightwing

10-07-2009, 09:40 PM

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Lois Lane is arrested by the government , Just like in smallville episode "Apocalypse" .

Flamebird and Nightwing in the background FTW

Sawyer

10-07-2009, 09:50 PM

That smile on Cat Grant's face... what a *****. lol

Gmanofsteel

10-21-2009, 10:16 PM

Cyborg joins the JLA
http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/comics/?cm=13809
Written by James Robinson; Art and covers by Mark Bagley and Rob Hunter
Be here for the start of a new Justice League era! The JLA have been getting a pounding in the last couple of months, but NO MORE! The team regroups with a new roster that will transcend time and space! Make way for the World's Greatest Heroes – Batman, Green Lantern, the Atom, Green Arrow, Donna Troy, the Guardian, Cyborg, Mon-El, Starfire, Dr. Light and, yes, Congorilla!

This issue features two covers by Mark Bagley which are seperately orderable. Cover A features Green Lantern and Green Arrow; Cover B features Batman and Mon-El. The cover images will be revealed online before the issue's Final Order Cutoff date.

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Webhead2006

10-21-2009, 11:42 PM

interesting lineup.

Rolf

10-22-2009, 08:16 AM

So does all this "Back to the Silver Age and Donnerverse" stuff mean that Lex will never own Lex.corp or become president?

Is he going back to becoming an evil mastermind living in a -300 ft park avenue adress?

Webhead2006

10-22-2009, 01:08 PM

no i believe he has lex corp and is business guy in this secret origins book, But yea johns is pulling a bit more of silver age stuff along with some other stuff pre crisis/post crisis too for this new take.

The Caped Knight

11-01-2009, 02:49 PM

Lex & Clark from Secret Origins # 2

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Young Superman

11-01-2009, 04:40 PM

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Awesome:D:up:

Young Superman

11-20-2009, 04:21 PM

You can clearly tell Smallville influenced Superman Birthright.

http://acomicbookblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/superman_birthright.jpg
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Young Superman

11-20-2009, 04:24 PM

double post

The Caped Knight

12-02-2009, 02:03 AM

Superman: Secret Origins #3

Lois Lane meets Clark Kent
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The Caped Knight

12-02-2009, 02:06 AM

Lois Lane, meets Superman.
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KBX

12-02-2009, 02:32 AM

In the comics, has Lex been always born in Smallville or just for this series?

The Caped Knight

12-02-2009, 07:18 AM

In the comics, has Lex been always born in Smallville or just for this series?

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6267/2921r.jpg
In Superman # 292 - Pre-Crisis comics, It's revealed that Luthor & Kent were friends growing up in smallville until one day when Luthor's baldness was originally caused by an accidental laboratory explosion and he blamed superboy for it. Lex swore he'd get revenge on the boy of steel some day .

When John Byrne revamped the character of Superman in 1986. He removed Lex & Clark growing up in smallville together .

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/152/160441189261120541super.jpg
In Superman : Birthright #8 Mark Waid reintroduced Lex's secret history of his time growing up in smallville with Clark Kent back into the comic continuity (Clearly due to the popularity of the character of Lex Luthor featured on the successful tv series "Smallville")

Ever since Birthright & the Smallville tv series Luthor's presents in Smallville Kansas, is now the official origin of the character in the DCU .
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Webhead2006

12-02-2009, 10:52 AM

yea it just counts on what story you follow. also cool intro for lois and lois meeting superman in the newest issue.

zerohour films

12-02-2009, 12:03 PM

Thanks for posting the Secret Origins scans! I was wondering if I should pick those up and see now that I REALLY need to.

What a nice mixture of classic Superman comics and films. Makes me crazy we won't be getting a new movie anytime soon.

Zorex

12-02-2009, 12:45 PM

Likewise. Not for a while. :(

Ah well. Looking forward to picking up this issue! Thanks for the scans!

Young Superman

12-02-2009, 12:51 PM

Love the look on Lois's after Superman saves her.

ZIPBAGS

12-02-2009, 12:56 PM

The origin story seems to be moving things in line with the Donner Superman of 1978.

zerohour films

12-02-2009, 02:02 PM

The origin story seems to be moving things in line with the Donner Superman of 1978.

Yup, looks like in not only Superman's physical appearance but story elements as well. To me just from those few pages it's a nice modern take of the Donnerverse without seeming old, out-of-date. There is something fresh about it.

One thing I would have kept from the helicopter rescue though was Superman's "I'm a friend" remark instead of "Just someone who wants to help". That is just a classic line, but either way good stuff.

I like how they tried to explain the glasses and disguise a bit better with Lois's remarks about how they distort his eyes and cover alot of his face, etc. It shows that there is more to it than just putting on some glasses and all of us accepting that they are a good disguise.

12-02-2009, 02:09 PM

Eros

12-02-2009, 02:23 PM

The only problem with Secret origin, Its not remotely original, Johns is just pulling past plot points from other sources, and is essentilaly telling slightly altered version of Man of steel/Birthright. its easy to suceed at something when all you have to do is take other versions ideas and make them yours.

SpideyVille

12-02-2009, 02:53 PM

Does Lois faint after he he saves her?

ironman29758

12-02-2009, 03:15 PM

Does Lois faint after he he saves her?
no.

Webhead2006

12-02-2009, 09:59 PM

yea it seems to be a nice story so far from what i read. But yea johns is taking various elements from different eras and putting them together in a good logical fashion.

I been saying this for awhile. This is what the next film crew who get tackled on to superman needs to do. Take the best elements of the character from all eras of the comics. Find a way to combine them all. Then make a fresh and original story. Why is it do darn hard for them.

zerohour films

12-03-2009, 09:17 AM

^IMO it's easier for the comics to get it right because they are typically written by people who grew up reading the characters and know them inside/out and have a deep love/passion for them. In most cases they don't step in and try to reinvent the wheel.

On the movie side of the world you rarely get a director who is an absolute fan of the character and most of the time they aren't beholden to a character's rich history. On top of that you have producers and other executives with their own ideas stepping in and screwing it all up.

Makes me sick. The whole idea of Superman is so simple and classic that it should not be hard to translate. There is drama, action, adventure, romance, and even some Sci-Fi. It should be box office gold. :wall:

Webhead2006

12-03-2009, 08:38 PM

totally it sucks there is so many issues on top of the current legal battle over the copyright to superman. That is why they need to find someone who loves and understands who/what the character is. They def need to get dc on hand to oversee things and make sure the comic stuff is right and all that. Then make a new story to go around those comic elements fans want to see in a film series.

SV Fan

12-07-2009, 02:19 PM

Looks like Superman origin will be rebooted one more time next year

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/12/07/dcu-in-2010-welcome-to-earth-one/

Starting next year, DC Comics will unveil SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE and BATMAN: EARTH ONE, two graphic novels spotlighting the most powerful heroes of the DC Universe, with their first years and earliest moments retold in a standalone, original graphic novel format, on a new earth with an all-new continuity.
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Return to Smallville and experience the journey of Earth’s greatest adopted son, as he grows from boy to Superman in SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE by J. Michael Straczynski and artist Shane Davis.

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Watch from the darkest corners of Crime Alley as a young boy is struck by unbelievable tragedy that will forge the greatest crime-fighter to ever stalk the rooftops of Gotham City in BATMAN: EARTH ONE, by writer Geoff Johns and artist Gary Frank.

Zorex

12-07-2009, 02:51 PM

Sweet Jesus...

BlueLightning

12-07-2009, 03:06 PM

Is not a reboot, is an "Ultimate" version if you need a name.

Ultimate_Superman

12-07-2009, 03:26 PM

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6267/2921r.jpg
In Superman # 292 - Pre-Crisis comics, It's revealed that Luthor & Kent were friends growing up in smallville until one day when Luthor's baldness was originally caused by an accidental laboratory explosion and he blamed superboy for it. Lex swore he'd get revenge on the boy of steel some day .

When John Byrne revamped the character of Superman in 1986. He removed Lex & Clark growing up in smallville together .

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/152/160441189261120541super.jpg
In Superman : Birthright #8 Mark Waid reintroduced Lex's secret history of his time growing up in smallville with Clark Kent back into the comic continuity (Clearly due to the popularity of the character of Lex Luthor featured on the successful tv series "Smallville")

Ever since Birthright & the Smallville tv series Luthor's presents in Smallville Kansas, is now the official origin of the character in the DCU .
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Wow it has been a while since I've been here. But guys you have to remember Birthright was not influenced by Smallville expect for the fact that the Kent's where made to look younger and that comes straight from Waids mouth at one of the comic-cons. The mandate was that they were going back to the silver age Superman so thats where Lex growing up in SV being friends with Clark (Pre-Crisis Superboy) and things like that come from. Where you will find SV in the comics is when you look at Conner Kent and Mon-El and how they are written. Not to start anything either but that's what Waid said when asked about the subject concerning Birthright.

SV Fan

12-07-2009, 04:19 PM

Is not a reboot, is an "Ultimate" version if you need a name.

Ultimate/reboot it's still yet another telling of the Superman origin.

ironman29758

12-07-2009, 05:31 PM

Ultimate/reboot it's still yet another telling of the Superman origin.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/superman_leveledlores-196x300.jpg (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/superman_leveledlores.jpg)
Return to Smallville and experience the journey of Earth’s greatest adopted son, as he grows from boy to Superman in SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE by J. Michael Straczynski and artist Shane Davis.

Bug and JMS talk SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE!

AMBUSH BUG: Tell me a little bit about the premise behind SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE.
J. Michael Straczynski (JMS): There's this notion, which has really become a kind of accepted cliché, that as soon as you get powers, you put on a superhero (or super-villain) costume and you're off to the races. But logically, there would have to come a moment when you have to decide if you actually want to do that, or if you should do that. It's that moment in the Garden of Gethsemane where you have to decide if you want to endure everything that's going to happen to you if you decide to expose yourself.

Clark comes to Metropolis in his 21st year to decide what he really wants to do. And this is someone who can be anyone, do anything. If he keeps his background secret, as he's done for the preceding 21 years, he can be the best athlete the world has ever known, he could be the next Stephen Hawking, could take away the golf crown from Tiger Woods, create patents (http://forums.superherohype.com/#) that could earn (http://forums.superherohype.com/#) billions. He can finally step out of the shadows and into the light.

By contrast, if he chooses to become Superman, then Clark must live forever in the shadows, dedicated to a life of service and self-sacrifice that could eventually get him killed. That's a hard choice for anybody to make, let alone a 21 year old kid who wants to look after his mom and is lured by the idea of money and success and fame. So the story is about Clark's Gethsemane moment, when he has to finally make that choice, why he makes it, and what follows after.

Against this backdrop, we flash back to his life growing up in Smallville, so we can see how the Kents helped mold him and protect him and get him to a point in his life where he can finally make this most difficult of choices.

BUG: How is your take on the younger years of Superman going to be different than previous takes on his origin?

JMS: This is probably one of the most often told and re-told stories in comics history, so you have to be careful to preserve what's established while trying to find areas where you can bring a fresh approach. But I'll be straight up with you: I'm not here to change his story into something it was never intended to be so that I can "make my mark" on the character. It's about respecting the character and his origins. Especially for me, since Superman has always been my number one icon growing up as a kid. Coming from poor surroundings and circumstances where everybody says "forget this idea of being a writer, guys like you who come from nothing always end up at nothing," Superman was what I held onto, the idea of someone who could do anything. My house is filled with enough original Superman artwork, memorabilia and other stuff to constitute a museum. It's probably one of the biggest Superman collections on the Western Seaboard, not because of the collecting instinct, but because that's how much the character has meant to me over the years.

(True story: I was at Chicago Comic-Con a number of years ago, standing in the dealer's room, when some guy grabbed a bunch of expensive items off a table and made a run for it down the aisle, being chased by the owner of the table. Everybody in the aisle did a fast fade, parting before this guy like the Red Sea. I brought the mofo down and the two of us held him for the police. The con organizer later came up to me and said, "Why'd you do that? He was half your age and twice as big, you could've been hurt." I pointed to where I'd been standing, in front of a ten-foot-tall cutout of Superman. "How could I stand under that, in front of him, and do nothing?" I said.)

So to the point of your question, what I'm trying to do is to dig in to the character and look at him through modern eyes. If you were to create the Superman story today, for the first time, but keep intact all that works, what would it look like? As a fledgling writer I used to love going to see productions of Shakespeare because what would often be done would be to take that original play and move it forward in time. So you could have “Two Gentlemen of Verona” set in pre-WW2 Italy...you could have a female Hamlet...or as was recently produced for film, “Richard III” set in a corollary for Nazi Germany. And suddenly the lens through which you view those stories, those plays, colors and changes how you perceive them without changing anything essential.

Here, of course, we're doing more than that because we're not sticking to a script, but the idea is much the same. So in the case of Superman, you take all those elements that work, and infuse them with a modern sensibility, how it would be written today, this minute, if it had just been created for the first time. If I have any one particular strength as a writer, it's taking someone of massive power and making them relatable, sympathetic and vulnerable while not taking an inch away from that incalculable power.

BUG: Are there aspects of Superman's origin that you purposefully left out for the sake of your story?

JMS: The only substantial thing I'm leaving out is the notion of a Superboy. Here, the first time Clark puts on that uniform, it really is his first time.

In reflecting further on the question of changes, probably one of the most changed characters is Jim Olsen, and the most changed atmosphere is that of the Daily Planet. Having worked as a journalist for nearly ten years, I know what a news room is supposed to feel like, and my one ongoing complaint about comics set in those environments is that you (or I) could tell that the writers had never actually worked for a newspaper.

And in any newspaper, the one guy who is the most dangerous guy to stand next to is the photographer, because they'll go anywhere and do anything to get the shot. I recently saw footage where a press photographer was at one of those races that go through city streets, and a car spun out and came right at him. He kept taking pictures as the back end hit the wall to his right, spun out, and the front hit the wall to his left, barely missing him by inches. He never once stopped snapping photos. A good newspaper reporter keeps shooting no matter the danger, so I'm bringing that aspect into Olsen.

The rest of the staff look, act and talk like actual reporters now, and that's a lot of fun. And when we join our story, the Daily Planet is on the downward slide...it's where new reporters come to learn and old reporters come to die. It's what begins to happen in the aftermath of Superman's appearance that starts to reverse their fortunes.

BUG: How do you deal with the delicate tightrope walk of telling stories that matter vs. not straying so far from the status quo that you don't recognize these iconic characters anymore?

JMS: I think it's a matter of respect and keeping the character first. Again, you don't change things just so you can say "I changed that." You have to ask if it proceeds from character. So for instance, one of the elements of the story is the fact that growing up, Clark would have been even more of an outsider than we've seen previously. Every kid gets in schoolyard fights, but Clark would have had to walk away or just take the punches, because if he slipped for even a second, he could kill the other kid. This would have gotten him a reputation as a coward, a weirdo, and he'd have to hear that every day in the schoolyard...and the one thing you know as a kid is that you don't hang with the cowards or the weirdos. So he would've lived a very solitary, rough, and very controlled life, because even a brief lapse could have disastrous consequences. We see a very real sense of isolation in him, which informs his arrival in Metropolis which represents the first time when he can choose the life he wants, rather than having to endure the life he had to endure.

BUG: How does SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE fit in with current continuity? The name suggests that it could be either part of it or an all new start from square one for the character.

JMS: At this juncture, the book operates outside DC continuity. At some point way, way down the road, some of that may be folded in, but again that's a long ways away.

BUG: It seems there is a pretty even split when it comes to whether someone is a Batman fan or a Superman fan. What is it about the character of Superman that appeals to some but not others?

JMS: I think it's a difference between power fantasies and revenge fantasies, with Superman more the former, and Batman more the latter. Not to belabor the previous point, because we all have our childhood horror stories, but I grew up in the mean streets of Newark and Paterson and some of the poorer parts of other towns. We moved 21 times in my first 17 years. Guys like me didn't become writers, they ended up pumping gas or working in machine shops. It was a dead-end lifestyle filled with no. So on the one hand, there was no one I wanted to get revenge against...I just wanted a chance to be somebody, a chance to learn to fly, and to become someone who couldn't get hurt. So I latched on to Superman at a very early age. I've said it before, and it's true: most of my morality I learned from Superman. One of my very earliest memories is an image from a Max Fleischer Superman cartoon where he has his cape over Lois, protecting her from molten metal. I searched for that image for decades before I found it and it's one of the first things you see when you enter my home...that and a mountain of Alex Ross and Curt Swan artwork, and The Triptych: a sketch of Superman signed by Siegel and Shuster, with an autograph by George Reeves tipped into it.

BUG: Can you tell me a little bit about the art in this one and how you worked with artist Shane Davis?

JMS: Because I tend to write from emotion to action, I live or die by the degree to which the artist is able to express emotion. So when Dan DiDio and I began the process of finding an artist, that skill was number one on the list. As soon as I saw Shane's art, I knew he would be right for this, because he can not only get that degree of expressiveness, but he's also really great on action and composition. There's an insane amount of detail in his work. We had a lot of back-and-forth in terms of character design that led to some really cool stuff.

BUG: How do you respond to criticism you've received for delayed titles that you've penned? Was it easier for you to write in this graphic novel format than the monthly grind?

JMS: Let me dive into this for a second, because this is a sore point with me. I was on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN for over eight years, and with only a couple of small glitches that book came out like clockwork. BULLET POINTS: on time. SILVER SURFER REQUIEM: on time. MIDNIGHT NATION: on time. BRAVE AND THE BOLD: on time. When I took on THE TWELVE, I wanted to do it the same as BP and SSR: let me write it all the way through, get most of the art done, then announce it, because in particular I was concerned that there might be some conflicts in scheduling not just with me but with the artist. But when PROJECT SUPERPOWERS was announced, the powers that be at Marvel decided to go ahead before it was ready, and what I was afraid would happen, happened. He got busy, I got busy, then he got busy again, then I got busy again, and it fell off the grid. (Note: the last scripts will be in by year's end.) With Thor, I'll take the rap for a couple of delays, but Marvel also delayed the book to buy time to find another artist. Between the time I finished the script for the last issue, for instance, and its publication, almost four months went by. I have the timestamp on the file to prove it. That ain't my choice, but I get the rap for it.

With all that being said, for me, it's best to do it then announce it, so there are no delays. So when DC came to me about this project, I felt it was important to again say nothing specific about it until it was nearly done. As I write these words, the script is very close to being finished (we're talking a book of well over a hundred pages), and we've got oodles of art finished.

BUG: The graphic novel format has been a preferred reading experience for a growing number of fans. Trade-waiting is a pretty common term I hear thrown around these days. What do you think; does the release of such a high profile product in a graphic novel format signify the end of the monthly single issues?

JMS Not at all. It's like saying that the production of movies signifies the end of dramatic series TV. Each serves a different need, and fills a different niche. If there's anything that is signified by trade-waiting, it's that we need to write better stories. If a reader can wait until it's all done to buy it, then we're not doing our jobs right. We should be writing stories that the reader can't wait to buy as soon as the next installment hits the stands, and then at the end, wants to gather together for ease of re-reading. If a reader can wait it out, then we as creators need to re-evaluate our work. Seriously.

BUG: Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions.

this is basiaclly smallville and ultimate Superman JMS style

SV Fan

12-07-2009, 05:57 PM

this is basiaclly smallville and ultimate Superman JMS style

Well hopefully it's better then Geoff Johns Secret Origin, which has been rather dissapointing so far

Webhead2006

12-07-2009, 06:04 PM

oh boy what number reboot is this one. I thought DC was saying that johns new origin and what not was going to be the ORIGIN for some time. Now this is coming out some point soon when johns story would just be barely over?????

Ultimate_Superman

12-07-2009, 06:15 PM

I love Shane Davis art but then again maybe thats because he draws Superman like Routh but I am looking forward to this series. I loved JMS on Supreme Power and I am sure I will love this. I also and looking forward to Johns and Frank on Batman I can't wait to see what that is like.

The Caped Knight

12-07-2009, 06:26 PM

Looks like Superman origin will be rebooted one more time next year

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/12/07/dcu-in-2010-welcome-to-earth-one/

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/batman_fnl3-219x300.jpg (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/batman_fnl3.jpg)http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/alfred_fnl3-219x300.jpg (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/alfred_fnl3.jpg)
Whoa Batman looks like Christian Bale and Alfred looks like Sean Connery . Thank God Gary Frank drew young Bruce to looks like a badass rather than how he drew young Clark Kent in Superman: Secret Origins.

Webhead2006

12-07-2009, 07:47 PM

cool batman/alfred. As for that superman image above i dont really see any routh looks in it.

.: The Cal :.

12-07-2009, 08:03 PM

Wow, Aldred looks mad and strong! :eek:

Ultimate_Superman

12-07-2009, 08:07 PM

cool batman/alfred. As for that superman image above i dont really see any routh looks in it.The way the hair is parted, the shape of the face, the seems on the suit, pretty much Routh is Davis Superman as Reeve is Franks Superman look up all his artwork when dealing with Superman. Superman/Batman arc and Trinity covers is a good example.

SV Fan

12-07-2009, 08:08 PM

well a little more on the reboot

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43302

BUG: How do you deal with the delicate tightrope walk of telling stories that matter vs. not straying so far from the status quo that you don't recognize these iconic characters anymore?

JMS: I think it's a matter of respect and keeping the character first. Again, you don't change things just so you can say "I changed that." You have to ask if it proceeds from character. So for instance, one of the elements of the story is the fact that growing up, Clark would have been even more of an outsider than we've seen previously. Every kid gets in schoolyard fights, but Clark would have had to walk away or just take the punches, because if he slipped for even a second, he could kill the other kid. This would have gotten him a reputation as a coward, a weirdo, and he'd have to hear that every day in the schoolyard...and the one thing you know as a kid is that you don't hang with the cowards or the weirdos. So he would've lived a very solitary, rough, and very controlled life, because even a brief lapse could have disastrous consequences. We see a very real sense of isolation in him, which informs his arrival in Metropolis which represents the first time when he can choose the life he wants, rather than having to endure the life he had to endure.

That to some degree sounds like Smallville

Ultimate_Superman

12-07-2009, 08:09 PM

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/batman_fnl3-219x300.jpg (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/batman_fnl3.jpg)http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/alfred_fnl3-219x300.jpg (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/alfred_fnl3.jpg)
Whoa Batman looks like Christian Bale and Alfred looks like Sean Connery . Thank God Gary Frank drew young Bruce to looks like a badass rather than how he drew young Clark Kent in Superman: Secret Origins.

cool batman/alfred. As for that superman image above i dont really see any routh looks in it.

Wow, Aldred looks mad and strong! :eek:Alfred reminds me of the old All Star Batman and Robin joke that use to go around "In the arms of a butler."

.: The Cal :.

12-07-2009, 08:18 PM

I think that they should try making a Smallville comic book series, that'd be cool. :)

Ultimate_Superman

12-07-2009, 08:26 PM

They did and it failed it is collected though.

Ultimate_Superman

12-08-2009, 12:57 PM

Even though I say his Adult Clark Kent/Superman look is more inspired by Routh, his teenage Clark look (to the right with the jacket) has a more Welling/SV influence.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6224/1260292826.jpg

It also seems like they are writing Clark Kent at least for the first 22 pages to be more like Smallvilles's Clark and then have him become more like Cain's Clark (the natural progression from Welling's Clark)

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23968
JMS said about this book that for him, the way to make this work was to make sure that you were presenting Superman as if he'd been made brand new in the 21st Century. As you started working with him on the story and on the character, how did that manifest itself?

I got to read those first 38 pages, and the pacing really didn't end at a 22-page stopping point, which was good. I was given a rundown of Clark there and who Clark was in JMS' words – how he was handling him. He left the descriptions loose, so the first thing I did was submit designs. DC had some notes on his script before I even drew the characters pertaining to two characters: Clark and Jim Olsen. It's not Jimmy Olsen. It's just Jim. And one note on Clark was "How about he have a Smallville letter jacket?" Now keep in mind, Clark is 21 years old and leaving home for the first time, basically. And Jim, they made a comment about him being more of Superman's pal and kind of a buddy instead of a hard-boiled photographer like JMS said in his interview.
So for Clark, the first thing I wanted to do was not put him in a high school letter jacket because he's 21 years old. Any kid that left home at 21 years of age to live on his own in the big city wearing a high school letter jacket deserves to get his ass kicked. [Laughs] You know what I'm saying? I don't think they really help you in the world. So I got rid of that old school mentality. You have to go in on this really respecting everything that's been before, and I noticed right then and there was that maybe the problem with there being so many Superman reboots and what I wanted to try and get away from visually is some of the Superman stereotypes. So Clark as a 21 year old male, I wanted him to wear layers of clothing. He's trying to blend in, and he's got some brooding aspects to him. He's trying to find his way in the world, and his past is his past. But he's trying to find his future. He doesn't want to stand out, so I gave him a hood. I wanted it to emulate the cape bunched up around his next, so it's a red hood on his jacket. I just definitely wanted to get away from the normal Clark Kent – tie, tucked all in, glasses, the slicked back hair. That really didn't make a lot of sense to me.
I had to make him a little bit more fashionable to today's audience. You know, geek fashion is a little more chic than it used to be. What a geek was in the '50s isn't really the same thing today. Clark Kent was a fashion stereotype of an era we're not in anymore. On that same note, I wanted to keep Clark's look broad enough that it'll survive the test of time. Not to say that Clark Kent hasn't survived the test of time. He just starts out here as more of the character that is he. He's becoming Superman. When he puts on the costume, it's the costume for the first time. So when he comes in, it's like, "I'm Clark Kent and I have these abilities" but he doesn't have a dual persona at this point. It was really interesting because this was more about developing a character who fit his situation and his past rather than going, "I know what Clark Kent is! I know what he looks like. Let me draw the same Clark Kent."
The same thing goes for Jim Olsen. JMS has a specific idea that he should be a cutting-edge, almost-getting-killed news photographer. And I thought JMS was dead on there. In the script, I wrote "Major Kudos!" That's much more realistic. Jimmy Olsen always came off as more of a doofus, and he may be a great photographer, but in some of the panels [from the classic comics] it was more about them talking about how he screwed up something. It doesn't seem like he would be the top newspaper photographer because of that. To have a job at the Daily Planet, he would have to be the top of the top when it came to photographers. And I thought that was an interesting story hook JMS was putting in there – Superman surrounded by a great photographer.
When you got those first pages in and had to start, how did the process go in terms of drawing a graphic novel instead of drawing an issue-by-issue story? What did that change about your process from what you did in the past?
The story is more about character-development. I think from a story perspective – and major judos to DC for doing a graphic novel – the things we're going to do with Clark will really make you feel him as a character. That's where our advantage is over previous attempts. As far as action goes, you're going to be a good chunk into the book before you see any real physical action. We have some bits where he's trying to do things like football or, like JMS said, being an engineer. The best way to do the origin story is to know that we don't have to do the costume on the 22nd page. We don't have to have to start off on pages one through five with a flash-forward where we see him in a suit and then stopping the story to go back and tell him how we got there. We were able to pace it correctly, kind of like a movie treatment. When we start the story out, people know Superman's going to be in there eventually. So we can take our time, and if it takes 23 pages to see him rather than 22, we can do that. In single issues, we weren't able to do that.

Binker

12-08-2009, 01:39 PM

Davis' art is very good, and I'm glad he's doing this (I'm also excited for this DCU Earth One as it's to DC what Ultimate Marvel is to Marvel). I had to remember where I saw his work from, and of course the main one for me was Superman/Batman with the "K" storyarc.

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_6349/subcat_54026/img096.jpg

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_32864/subcat_80261/Davis,%20Shane%20-%20Superman%20Batman%2045%20Cover%20color.jpg

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_41279/subcat_89657/Superman_Batman.jpg
(That's Metallo that Superman's punching through, BTW)

Ultimate_Superman

12-08-2009, 01:48 PM

Webhead2006

12-08-2009, 02:15 PM

nice interview will be interesting to see what this turns out to be. I agree the easiest want to explain this right now is that its dc version of an ultimate universe or what not. Where they have free reign to do what ever.

Ultimate_Superman

12-08-2009, 02:41 PM

Agreed I am looking forward to see how everything leads up to Earth One JLA.

Brainiac 8

12-08-2009, 03:54 PM

Why is everyone so shocked? DC is to rebooting their continuity as Marvel is to ruining Spider-Man.

M.O.Steel

12-08-2009, 04:36 PM

usually not a fan of the inverse S on the cape as opposed to the solid yellow, but i like the picture.

and neither look like bale or routh. there are artists that use the resemble, especially routh and reeve as their superman, but these two do not look like their counterparts.

not sure if i'm feeling the trunkless batman or the alfred. he looks too much of a badass, and not someone who looks caring enough to raise bruce. i also don't like the other end of the spectrum, so i always thought caine's alfred is the best interpretation (ofcourse this isn't a fair assesment without actually reading earth one. but based on the pics)

Webhead2006

12-08-2009, 07:49 PM

Yea when isnt there a "Reboot" of superman happening. Its just odd to announce it when the new one is just in middle of release.

Zorex

12-08-2009, 08:25 PM

I want to see more pictures of the Superman from this Earth One. That one colour image isn't wowing me. It's all right, but I'd like to see more, like the Batman and Alfred images.

Doc Ock

12-08-2009, 10:14 PM

JackIvyGB

12-08-2009, 10:35 PM

Yea when isnt there a "Reboot" of superman happening. Its just odd to announce it when the new one is just in middle of release.

Well, this isn't so much in the same league as John's "Secret Origin". It's more "Ultimate Superman", launching a new universe and new interpretation altogether. Similar to Ultimate Spidey, we'll probably get the basics intact (pete bitten by spider, gets powers, becomes spidey, etc, or in this case, krypton blows up, clark sent to earth, raised by kents, moves to metropolis, becomes superman), but it will take creative liberty with alot of other things.

Where as Johns was a well executed re-arrangement and mixing of all the classic/major/popular origin stories, this is probably going to to take the core elements and then re-write from the ground up, similar to what Smallville has done. Familiar enough to recognize as Superman, but different enough to be something completely new.

Webhead2006

12-08-2009, 10:39 PM

yea that is what alot of folks are saying this will be. that is probably the best way to example this series. I am curious to check it out when it does hit. Any word on when its due to come out next year?

Doc Ock

12-08-2009, 10:55 PM

I might not check out this "reboot" until it is packed into a graphic novel.

Webhead2006

12-08-2009, 11:08 PM

it is going to be in a graphic novel format.

kal_el_526

12-10-2009, 03:56 PM

I like the way he looks drawn in that picture, Looks good

Doc Ock

12-10-2009, 04:19 PM

it is going to be in a graphic novel format.

Oh! :doh: I have trouble following the comic book world.....it was easier in the 90s...

Webhead2006

12-10-2009, 04:40 PM

no problem.

RakuMon

12-11-2009, 09:31 AM

check out the cover of green arrow #31
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/12/11/dcu-in-2010-the-rise-of-arsenal-and-the-fall-of-green-arrow/
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/12/ga-cover-final.jpg

now, if only justin would grow some facial hair!

JackIvyGB

12-11-2009, 09:53 AM

Oh snap son!!! It's the smallville green arrow suit!!! Win!!!

M.O.Steel

12-11-2009, 11:03 AM

wow. i surprised they adapted the smallville suit into the comics. it is a sweet suit.

Webhead2006

12-11-2009, 11:09 AM

it is pretty cool. I do wish they would have justin grow some perment facial hair. It would be interesting to see him with a full on gotee.

Zorex

12-11-2009, 11:49 AM

That's pretty rad!

Young Superman

12-11-2009, 11:55 AM

Nice.

M.O.Steel

12-11-2009, 11:57 AM

it is pretty cool. I do wish they would have justin grow some perment facial hair. It would be interesting to see him with a full on gotee.

i don't see why not. they should at least do it towards the end around the same time clark puts on the superman suit. i would also like to see a mask instead of sunglasses like that pic also.

The Incredible Hulk

12-11-2009, 12:48 PM

Awesome. Just give JH a van dyke (not a goatee), the mask, and get rid of that stupid compound bow and there you have it...

Gmanofsteel

12-11-2009, 01:12 PM

Webhead2006

12-11-2009, 02:04 PM

yea hopefully they will do that before the show ends. Also does any one have a picture of ollie last suit in comics before he will be sporting this new look.

The Incredible Hulk

12-11-2009, 02:31 PM

would love to see some of the panels from that comic to see if they've changed Ollie's facial appearance to be more similar to Hartley's.

Brainiac 8

12-11-2009, 03:06 PM

Hartley plays a fantastic Green Arrow...and I really wish if they did a spin-off, it would be about him.

smsvmos

12-11-2009, 03:54 PM

HOLY Green Arrows Batman that is just top notch :D

triplet

12-11-2009, 04:12 PM

Webhead2006

12-11-2009, 10:52 PM

i asked this on page 34 does any one have a pic of what comics green arrow costume was before this new sv like one is appearing?

The Caped Knight

12-12-2009, 06:00 AM

ZIPBAGS

12-12-2009, 11:04 AM

i asked this on page 34 does any one have a pic of what comics green arrow costume was before this new sv like one is appearing?

http://trylobyte.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/green_arrow.jpg

Artistsean

12-12-2009, 01:18 PM

I talked to an artist at Comic Con one year, years ago, and he was drawing Legion of Superheroes with Superboy in it. His original idea, or original drawings, had Superboy looking like Tom Welling. But DC had him change it because, I guess, they didn't have permission or were legally allowed to do that.

Webhead2006

12-12-2009, 03:00 PM

actually i believe that is a much older look for Green arrow, i was asking what was the actual present look suit he has before this green arrow comic coming out that is sporting sv look.

Artistsean

12-12-2009, 03:55 PM

His most recent look
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Green%20lantern/Blackest_Night_Vol_1_1b_Virgin.jpg
You can see him here,

I think its this costume:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Green%20lantern/212451-170743-green-arrow.jpg

So pretty much, or exactly the same, as the classic Alex Ross version.
Did they go back to the classic costume?

JackIvyGB

12-12-2009, 04:11 PM

I'm wondering if this is just the way the cover artist happened to draw the suit. This is just the cover and covers don't always match the interior art. He could very well still be wearing his classic suit inside.

I'd love to see the suit used in the book as well, but I really think this may just be for the cover.

Webhead2006

12-12-2009, 08:19 PM

hmm that doesnt seem right cause i have seen images of him in recent years sporting a hood deal. Plus i asked on another board and a poster gave me an image of a hooded look.

TheLongestDay

12-12-2009, 08:57 PM

hmm that doesnt seem right cause i have seen images of him in recent years sporting a hood deal. Plus i asked on another board and a poster gave me an image of a hooded look.

That was a while ago now - if I remember correctly he mostly had the hood around the time that Hal Jordan turned into Parallax..just before Ollie "died".

http://www.ferretpress.com/weblog/20070101.jpg

but he is sometimes drawn like this too:

http://www.onlygoodmovies.com/images/content/green-arrow-movie.jpg

Webhead2006

12-12-2009, 10:17 PM

ok.

Primal Slayer

12-13-2009, 02:18 PM

As of December 2009, this is how GA has been drawn, from both of the titles he is starring in.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1212/jlacryforjustice0502102.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlacryforjustice0502102.jpg) http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/592/68546719.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68546719.jpg)

Webhead2006

12-13-2009, 05:51 PM

thanks primal so he been sporting the hood and the classic look then huh.

Webhead2006

12-19-2009, 01:50 AM

so comicbookresources site has another interview up with JMS about his new superman.

DrMylesOBoogie

01-16-2010, 08:11 AM

new Superman cover

http://i.newsarama.com/images/sm_cv699_02.jpg

01-16-2010, 08:47 AM

Does look a little Welling esque doesn't it.

I'm sure its not intentional though.. who drew it? If you know..?

Young Superman

01-16-2010, 10:48 AM

new Superman cover

http://i.newsarama.com/images/sm_cv699_02.jpgIronically I just posted this pic in the Your Favorite Superman Pictures Thread. It's AWESOME!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

M.O.Steel

01-16-2010, 05:22 PM

Does look a little Welling esque doesn't it.

I'm sure its not intentional though.. who drew it? If you know..?

it looks nothing like welling:huh:

01-17-2010, 06:00 AM

it looks nothing like welling:huh:

It does a little, only with a fatter jawline.

M.O.Steel

01-17-2010, 12:21 PM

which is probably why he doesn't look like welling at all.

there are some artists that obviously use CReeves, BR, and welling. this one doesn't look like welling to me.

Bnightwing

01-17-2010, 05:04 PM

01-18-2010, 12:19 PM

which is probably why he doesn't look like welling at all.

there are some artists that obviously use CReeves, BR, and welling. this one doesn't look like welling to me.

I think it does, in that picture anyway, with the exception of the heavy jawline.

I doubt whomever drew it was intending to reference anyone, which is why it isn't a blatent 'copy' like Gary Frank's Christopher Reeve esque Superman. It just so happens to look a little like a cartooned version Welling IMO, with a bigger jaw.

triplet

01-18-2010, 10:27 PM

new Superman cover

http://i.newsarama.com/images/sm_cv699_02.jpg

It does a little, only with a fatter jawline.

A little, but not much.....

Webhead2006

01-19-2010, 12:02 AM

what comic is that from?

Young Superman

01-19-2010, 09:02 AM

Superman #699

Webhead2006

01-19-2010, 02:57 PM

thanks

Young Superman

01-19-2010, 03:07 PM

Anytime:yay:

Ultimate_Superman

01-20-2010, 08:04 AM

which is probably why he doesn't look like welling at all.

there are some artists that obviously use CReeves, BR, and welling. this one doesn't look like welling to me.
Correct now if you really want to see Tom Welling in the comics look at how Mon-El has been drawen lately and you will see Welling and if you want to see Clark's SV story look at Conner Kent he acts more like Clark from SV. They actually are drawing him to look like Welling in the Superman comics.

Webhead2006

01-20-2010, 12:58 PM

can you post a few images to prove that?

Ultimate_Superman

01-20-2010, 01:09 PM

can you post a few images to prove that?
I did that a few pages back. Also take a look at the Mon-El covers to see it as well but I will re-post them for you.

Webhead2006

01-20-2010, 11:46 PM

well i dont got any images/posts handy if u can show some images that would be great.

Young Superman

02-14-2010, 01:14 PM

I know it's been brought up before but what's up with Mon-El looking like Welling?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25807/753947-monelpage_super.jpg

Webhead2006

02-14-2010, 01:21 PM

does look a bit simular.

Webhead2006

02-17-2010, 12:24 AM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/jake-black-supergirl.htm

http://www.kryptonsite.com/supergirl50-1.jpgSmallville Vets Take On Supergirl

Interview by Craig Byrne

This Wednesday at finer comic book stores, DC Comics' 50th issue of the current volume of Supergirl hits stores. This bonus-sized comic - which features a cover by the late Michael Turner - should be notable to comic book fans as it features a story co-written by two folks with a Smallville past - Jake Black, who worked in the Smallville production office in the show's early years and also contributed to several tie-ins - with Helen Slater, who in addition to playing Supergirl in the classic movie of the same name, played "Lara" in two episodes of Smallville's seventh season.
Jake Black took the time to speak with KryptonSite about the anniversary issue, and offers some hints about some Easter eggs that Smallville fans should enjoy. KryptonSite's questions are printed in bold type; Jake's answers are not.
How did it come about for you to co-write a Supergirl story with Helen Slater?

A couple years ago, Helen and I were guests at the annual Superman Celebration in Metropolis, IL. At dinner, we started talking about Supergirl, and how the character has evolved over the years. As we finished that conversation, we both really wanted to tackle the character in the comics. We worked up a pitch, and sent it in to DC Comics. DC had just put a new creative team on the book, so our pitch wasn't picked up. However, as DC was looking at the 50th issue, and wanting to make it special, they approached the two of us, and asked if we were interested in doing the story now. Our new story, even though it's very short, has a lot of elements and discussion that were featured in that initial pitch.

I hear artist Cliff Chiang (Green Arrow/Black Canary) had an interesting approach to illustrating the story. Can you talk about that?

It's great! Cliff has done a beautiful job with the story. He set up what he thought was the most important image on the page, and framed it with the other panels. It's really slick. I like it a lot.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/supergirl50-2.jpgIs it true there are some Easter eggs for Smallville fans?

There's subtle nod to Smallville's Supergirl in the art, yeah. Like most Easter eggs, you gotta look pretty close, but once you find it, its a fun reference to Smallville.

How long have you been writing comics?

My first comic was the fifth issue of the Smallville comics released in 2003-2004. I co-wrote a short story with Clint Carpenter, who was a writer on the show at the time. It was drawn by Pete Woods who has since gone on to do some pretty big things in the Superman comics. I'm really proud of it. I have a copy framed in my office to this day.

What else may you have done that you might be known for?

I've been writing comics for several years, doing some indie titles, as well as some books for DC and Marvel. I'm also one of the main writers for the "DC Comics Super-Hero Collection." Those are the biographical magazines on DC super-heroes that come with a small lead statue of the featured character. I've written several books, and a bunch of shows for Cartoon Network. Done a lot of freelancing writing, so I may be "known" for any of it! :-)

You worked at Smallville in the early days. What did you do with/for the show?

I started with the show in season one as the writer's intern. I spent seasons 1-4 writing for the old Torch and Ledger websites (several of thost articles were reprinted in the "Official Companion" books). Like I said, I wrote the an issue of the comics. Since then, I've written and consulted on a couple of the show's DVD features on characters like Lois Lane, Green Arrow and Supergirl. I was a writer for more than 20 issues of the Smallville Magazine published by Titan. I wrote a set of the trading cards. It's been great. I still keep in touch with the Smallville family.

Would you like to do more with Smallville itself in the future?

Absolutely. I'm currently writing/consulting on a pair of the season 9 DVD features. After spending almost a decade associated with the show as an intern and then a freelancer, I have a great love for the show. I want to contribute to it however I can.

Honestly, pick a favorite - Helen Slater or Laura Vandervoort?

Wow. That's not fair! I can't do pick! They are both wonderfully. I think they both perfectly captured the comic book portrayals of their characters at their time. I, of course, have great affection for my friend Helen, and I thought she was beautiful and graceful as Kara in the movie. (There's an easter egg nod to that portrayal in our comic story, too...) I thought she was wonderfully classy as Lara on Smallville, too. Laura Vandervoort gave Kara such strength and confidence, and brought to the screen the attributes that made Supergirl my favorite character in the comics.

How did you first meet Helen Slater?

It was at that Superman Celebration in Metropolis, IL. She's such a wonderful woman. So kind and supportive.

What is coming up next for you?

I'm working on a couple of issues of "CN Action Pack" for DC. I wrote an episode of "Ben 10 Alien Force" for Cartoon Network, and have been doing some the of comics based on that show. Those stories appear in "Action Pack." I'm also still working on the DC Super-hero Collection. Finally, I wrote an episode of "Batman: Brave and Bold" that will be airing later this year. In the meantime, I'm working on a few books, and some indie comics and some for Marvel as well.

It sounds like Supergirl #50 is a big book. How many pages and what is the price point?

It hits stores on February 17, and is $4.99. I'm not sure the total pages, but our story is 6 pages. The rest of the book is by the phenomenal team of Sterling Gates and Jamal Igle. They are doing such a tremendous job on the Supergirl comics. It's a great series to read, and this issue is a fantastic starting point. Plus there's a cover by Michael Turner. That was a cool bonus to me. I met Michael Turner a couple of times, and interviewed him for Wizard Magazine a few months before he passed away from cancer. In 2009, I also battled and beat cancer, so there's a lot of emotional connections to this book for me.

Supergirl #50 hits comic book stores on Wednesday, February 17. For more on Jake Black, visit his official site at jakeblack.com (http://www.jakeblack.com/) and follow him on Twitter @jakeboyslim (http://twitter.com/jakeboyslim).

The Caped Knight

03-11-2010, 07:05 PM

Check out the visual appearance of The Daily Planet from artist David Finch for his upcoming run in "Action Comics"
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7268/lexluthor.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/03/11/new-action-art-team-in-june-woods-on-interiors-finch-on-covers/

It looks like SMALLVILLE's version as does David's depiction of Lex Luthor .

Zorex

03-11-2010, 07:45 PM

The DP looks more like the "Superman Returns" version, in my opinion.

Webhead2006

03-11-2010, 11:31 PM

look a bit like both.

The Caped Knight

04-09-2010, 12:32 AM

Superman : Secret Origins #5

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(http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/secret%20origin%205/?action=view&current=30.jpg)

The Caped Knight

04-09-2010, 12:34 AM

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SV Fan

04-09-2010, 01:46 AM

Ultimate_Superman

04-09-2010, 07:59 AM

These 2 panels seem like they stole from SV a bit. The backstory of her mom dying was a Smallville thing first, Lois mentioned how her sister is a stranger to her in Lucy and the comment how Clark is meek one moment then overconfidient the next was right out of Gone.Actually that is straight out of Lois and Clark (done for most of the first season and second) and Donner's movies looking back to Superman II (talked about with Lois) and III (talked about with Lana) and even IV (somewhat talked about with Lacey).

Webhead2006

04-09-2010, 12:40 PM

nice panels.

ironman29758

04-09-2010, 03:38 PM

so Parasite got his powers using Kryptonite/a meteor freak like Smallville Parasite
Clark is made more agressive so he's not totally the silver age/donnerverse Clark like everyone thing, Metallo worked for the millitary and turned into Metallo on purpose instead of a car accident.
nice, alot of Smaville and Silver age, modern age and other comics. I'm going to but this comic

The Caped Knight

04-09-2010, 04:20 PM

Don't forget Luthor working with General Lane just like in "Gone"

Ultimate_Superman

06-23-2010, 11:57 AM

All SV fans should go pick up the latest issue of Superman/Batman where they have a very huge nod to SV. In the issue Lois is working at the Daily Planet and you see one of her articles that says Red-Blue Blur finally gets a name.

Zorex

06-23-2010, 02:19 PM

Ha! Funny. I might just check that out tonight.

Webhead2006

06-23-2010, 02:28 PM

haha thats cool if any one can get some scans of that would be nice.

The Caped Knight

06-26-2010, 02:37 PM

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/295/comicsredblueblur.jpg
Superman/Batman # 73

Full Scan
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/supermanbatman/Superman-Batman073013.jpg

Johnny

06-26-2010, 02:42 PM

The Caped Knight

06-26-2010, 02:58 PM

The Caped Knight

06-26-2010, 03:01 PM

BTW this is for you Webhead the complete Reunion of Lois & Clark/Superman from Superman # 700

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_04.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=04.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_09.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=09.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_10.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=10.jpg)
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Webhead2006

06-26-2010, 10:39 PM

cool cool

triplet

06-26-2010, 11:25 PM

oops...

someone already posted the scan from Superman/Batman #73.

Ultimate_Superman

06-28-2010, 07:45 AM

Yeah, I saw that too when I read it. So it's official - in the comicbook canon before "Superman" Clark was the Blur. People can say wtv they want about the show, but noone can deny the influence it has. Nice one, Smallville. ;)Actually Superman Batman is not canon. It is only canon when it relates to a bigger story in a whole. Like Return of Bruce Wayne or Our Worlds at War or Final Crisis. Thats why the book hasn't been in canon since the fall of Lex Luthor and Supergirl arc (which is even out of canon now). But any other story is just pretty much in the same category as All-Star Superman or an elseworld tell. Which is why we never see the follow up to Kryptonite where Lana turns on Superman (which is a shame because I would have loved to see how that one plays out) or the follow ups to other good stories they've had. Because if he was to be called Red-Blue Blur you would have seen it noted in Secret Origins.

Ultimate_Superman

06-28-2010, 07:48 AM

Smallville's not the only show that has a great influence on the comics . Superman : The animated series does as well as you can see from Superman # 700 , The appearance of The Parasite is based off STAS .

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_01.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=01.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_02.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=02.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_03.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=03.jpg)

BTW this is for you Webhead the complete Reunion of Lois & Clark/Superman from Superman # 700

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_10.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=10.jpg)
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http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_14.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=14.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_15.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=15.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/th_16.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/SupermanLois/?action=view&current=16.jpg)
You know the sad thing about this is this will be the only Lois and Clark/Superman moment we get until another year or two from now. Since they are paring Lois with Lex and Superman is pulling a Forrest Gump at the moment. Thank you very much JMS

Johnny

06-28-2010, 10:15 AM

They're not "pairing" Lois with Lex. That was just some dinner in the preview, Lois can't stand Lex lol.

Ultimate_Superman

06-28-2010, 11:19 AM

They're not "pairing" Lois with Lex. That was just some dinner in the preview, Lois can't stand Lex lol.
Actually yes they are for the time being Lois will be in Action comics as Lex Luthor's girlfriend. Where it is suppose to lead to we (the fans) don't know all I know is that is what is happening in the comics as of right now. Although it has been said among fans maybe she is pretending to be his girlfriend so that she can expose what Lex and her father did to New Krypton. Still there is other ways in doing that then making her Lex's girlfriend. While Superman takes his walk across America because JMS doesn't want Superman in any other book unless needed. All I know though is they better not mess with the marriage or there will be hell to pay.

Johnny

06-28-2010, 11:44 AM

The Caped Knight

06-28-2010, 12:10 PM

Lois will never cheat on Clark lol Even for an undercover story. Yeah, we'll see what it's all about but I highly doubt that's the thing. If that's the case. it would be even worse than what Marvel did.

Here's Paul Cornell interview

Secondly, a huge controversy erupted overnight about this interview. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Action-Comics-Cornell-Luthor-Lane-100520.html) I made the mistake of teasing that Lex Luthor, in my story arc in Action Comics, would be taking Lois Lane along with him 'as his girlfirend'. I, and this is silly of me in retrospect, expected the reaction to be 'oh, well, that can't possibly be true, I wonder what it really means, I'm so intrigued', instead of which, the actual reaction was 'arrgggghhhhhhhhhloveLoisandClarkasacouplekillyouk illyoukillyou!'

Now, we all know of creators whose response to this situation would be to continue to tease the audience and maybe get a 'Lex and Lois 4 Ever' tattoo. And I did indeed give that some thought, because that brave stance increases publicity. But, having slept on it, well, if we did that, we're not going to get any extra sales out of it. We're going to get one guy who'd have bought it anyway telling everyone 'oh, I've just looked at it, it's not what you think', and then everyone else blaming us for the anger they'd felt.

I'm not going to tell you what the actual Lex/Lois deal is, because that really would be spoiling the issue, and would be unjust to my lovely editors, who are probably as surprised at all this as I am. But I will say: if you're a Lois and Clark fan, you'll see, a few pages in, that you have no reason to be angry. I respect your love for these characters, I love your passion, and I want to write for that passion, not against it. We'll get sales not out of artificial controversy, but because we're telling a good story. I think this is a good story, and I don't want to distract from it by creating fake suspense over something that's a side issue. Just... trust me, okay?

http://bit.ly/cQnLzzSo their you go Lois & Clark are safe . :super:

ZIPBAGS

06-28-2010, 08:05 PM

Well...The only one who would be happy if Lex & Lois hooked up....Wonder Woman. :D

The Caped Knight

06-28-2010, 08:08 PM

Well...The only one who would be happy if Lex & Lois hooked up....Wonder Woman. :D

No, Diana actually in love with Bruce more so than she was with Clark .

Man of Tomorrow

06-28-2010, 09:33 PM

The Caped Knight

06-28-2010, 09:39 PM

So wait, Are Clark and Lois still married in the comics?

I can understand Lois hooking up with Lex in the 1980s before marrying Clark/Superman, but now it's too late.

Unless they're restarting/retconning Superman again?

Lois & Clark are still very much married in the current continuity. Even when he was on New Krypton, he still remained faithful to his wife Lois . On his brief return to earth during New Krypton storyarc, He tells Lois that even though he cut a ties to earth to become Commander Kal-El in the kryptonian army . He kept his wedding ring on a necklace he wore around his chest to remind him of his love for Lois .

Man of Tomorrow

06-28-2010, 10:03 PM

The New Krypton thing is stupid IMO.

The Superman comics have gone downhill since Infinite Crisis, save for Lost Son and perhaps the Johns Brainiac stuff.

If the Nolan Superman reboot proves to be a success, perhaps it's time to reboot Superman in the comics too and start fresh. It's getting way too convoluted.

By then it would have been over 35 years since John Byrne's "Man of Steel" reboot believe it or not.

Maybe then they could pull off this Lex/Lois stuff.

The Caped Knight

06-28-2010, 10:24 PM

Maybe then they could pull off this Lex/Lois stuff.

I see the upcoming Lex and Lois story plot as Lois's way to uncover the truth behind her father's involvement with Luthor during the war with New Krypton . Also maybe she'll get the evidence she needs to see that Luthor never sees the light of day when he sent back to prison for the War Crime he committed by causing the destruction of the planet New Krypton .

Webhead2006

06-28-2010, 11:07 PM

Ultimate_Superman

06-29-2010, 07:20 AM

even though i dont read any supes books presently i doubt even if the new film is a success they will be reboot again. Heck we have all these different reboots presently with earth one in the fall, to johns secret origins. Plus who knows what will be what come 2013 if things go bad for wb/dc comics with the contiuning legal stuff.No the reboot for the DCU is the Earth One titles which was like the reboot for the Marvel titles. They are suppose to be ongoing in Graphic Novel format. Supposedly they are already working on a sequel to Earth One Superman.

Johnny

06-29-2010, 07:21 AM

Well that's not really a reboot, it'll be more of an Elseworlds story. And I can't wait for it.

Ultimate_Superman

06-29-2010, 07:35 AM

No, Diana actually in love with Bruce more so than she was with Clark .
That remains to be seen now that JMS has taken over the title. Before Rucka's fallout with DC has was rumored to be taking over the title again and that was suppose to be one of his storylines. However after the fall out all that stuff changed. Much like things did with Action where it was suppose to pick up the whole New Krypton events but that has been changed as well.
The New Krypton thing is stupid IMO.

The Superman comics have gone downhill since Infinite Crisis, save for Lost Son and perhaps the Johns Brainiac stuff.

If the Nolan Superman reboot proves to be a success, perhaps it's time to reboot Superman in the comics too and start fresh. It's getting way too convoluted.

By then it would have been over 35 years since John Byrne's "Man of Steel" reboot believe it or not.

Maybe then they could pull off this Lex/Lois stuff.The whole New Krypton story is a bust IMO mainly because of John's. This story line was suppose to be like the Sinestro Crops War/Blackest Night and it started off that way but left suddenly and they had to scramble to keep things going. And you really saw that towards the end of the New Krypton story. Because War of the Supermen was suppose to be DC's big summer event that was suppose to leave a lasting effect on the DCU and Superman think Superman: TAS Legacy where the whole world wouldn't trust him and he had to earn back their trust. At least that's where Robinson's arc was heading towards. But instead the event went by barely noticeable and at the end of the whole thing DC hit the big reset button and took away all the character development from New Krypton and left us with nothing. Like it never happened (much like Final Crisis). That was the biggest problem with that whole arc because when John's left things started to unravel. He is like the Bryan Singer of the DCU meaning he usually starts something big but never finishes it.

Ultimate_Superman

06-29-2010, 07:38 AM

Well that's not really a reboot, it'll be more of an Elseworlds story. And I can't wait for it.
Oh its not an elseworld where it is a one shot. It is ongoing (depending on sells) think Marvel's Ultimate Universe where that was their chance to reboot everything and start over without having to touch the main universe as well or better yet think pre Crisis where they have now two worlds going on at once like they did back then. That's what DC is doing with Earth One although I still would prefer a monthly title for this line then a 2 (per each character) books a year.

Webhead2006

06-29-2010, 10:24 AM

Ultimate_Superman

06-29-2010, 11:06 AM

ultimate/johnny i was just saying we got some many books out there at dc that are meant to be reboots or restarts for supes, and they keep rebooting him it seems every few yrs. I just dont think we need to have another reboot coming in the comics. IF anything things will probably have to be rebooted come 2013 after any more legal stuff when shuster's heirs go to court against dc.
The legal stuff will be settled the closest thing we will get to a reboot is the Earth One line. However as far as Superman's Origin goes that is another story as we see if redone every 5 years now. Although in fairness for Birthright that was suppose to be the start of the Ultimate line then but later changed at last moment.

Webhead2006

06-29-2010, 11:21 AM

i know i was just saying who knows what could happen with the legal stuff if they dont settle within the next few yrs, Now i do want them to settled. So it leaves wb/dc comics to use all the elements of the character for comics, cartoons, tv, films and all that. Just from what i seen over the years dc has rebooted superman far to many times so its like why the heck do they need another comic reboot again.

ZIPBAGS

06-29-2010, 11:56 AM

The Caped Knight

06-29-2010, 12:54 PM

I am sorry if this is off topic. But, I stopped reading after the whole New Krypton story started. It was just too much. Can someone tell me how (or if) they resolved it? Their cannot be a whole planet of Kryptonians. It totally ruins the uniqueness of Supes.

Thanks!

In a nutshell

The planet of New Krypton is destroyed by Lex Luthor, Brainiac and Sam Lane with the aid of Reactron. The remaining Kryptonians that are left head to earth preparing for War.

Luthor launch a counter attack in the form of a missile housing a huge supply of Red Kryptonite is shot into the sky through the black hole/time pool tech directly into the yellow sun making it a huge red sun killing the remain Kryptonians in space before getting to earth.

In return Lex regains his beloved Lexcorp along with a full pardon from his past previous crimes.

Flamebird sacrifices her life as she flies into the heart the sun to save any remain kryptonians she could (Superman, Supergirl, Zod and his army) returning it back to the yellow Sun.

Flamebird dies as Superman and Supergirl catch their now returned super breaths and watch as 73,000 Kryptonians die in space. Zod notes there are now only 7,000 Kryptonians left. Zod, Non, and Ursa fly toward Earth to lead the attack by the survivors. All over the planet, the Kryptonians wreak havoc killing world leaders, destroying landmarks, and facing off against both super-heroes and Green Kryptonite robots. Ursa flies toward the White House seeking to kill the President - Supergirl arrives and they fight.

General Zod is leading his forces to Metropolis where Superman waits for them atop the Daily Planet building in flight.

A massive Battle between Superman vs. General Zod happens in the heart of Metropolis . With the aid of Conner Kent and the Phantom Zone projector , Conner uses it against the remaining Kryptonians sending them to the phantom zone .

Meanwhile Supergirl flies into the military base to confront General Lane, willing to kill him in revenge for the death of her people and mother, much to General Lane's satisfaction as it would prove him right about the Kryptonians, only for Lois Lane to talk Supergirl down. Refusing to face judgement for his war crimes, General Lane shoot himself.

Superman attempts to drag Zod into the Zone with him, willing to sacrifice himself to ensure that Zod is imprisoned for good, only for Nightwing to interrupt his efforts, sending his adopted father back to Earth so that he can continue to defend it while remaining behind to ensure that his biological father remains trapped.

Nightwing (Chris) reverts to a young boy, encounters Mon-El, and the two journey off together within the Zone.

In the aftermath, Lois and Clark reflect sadly on how New Krypton's appearance resulted in such a pointless war, Clark expressing his uncertainty about whether any Kryptonians are left in hiding on Earth while Lois promises to write the truth about her father's actions despite the media portraying him as a hero for his 'defensive action', hoping that someday humanity will be ready for interaction with other alien races.

The Caped Knight

06-30-2010, 10:47 PM

Well the truth is revealed about Lois & Lex in the current Action Comics turns out This isn't the real Lois but a robotic duplicate of Lois Lane using kryptonian tech from Brainiac.
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/23-1.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/hippie_hunter/35mf4wh.jpg

Smallville - Lex clones Lana and his brother Julian Luthor

Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman - Lex clones Superman creating Bizarro and a Lois clone who's obsessed with eating frogs

Superman : TAS and comics - Lex clones Superman creating Bizarro

Man Luthor's really obsessive with Lois and Superman .

Johnny

07-01-2010, 03:29 AM

I was laughing my ass off on that scene. Well played. Loved how from the preview everyone thought that Lois is gonna hook up with Lex and then what do you know. hahah One of the best gags in comics I've ever read. And the punchline was wicked. :woot:

Webhead2006

07-01-2010, 10:27 PM

interesting

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 11:51 AM

James Marsters (Brainiac on Smallville) reprises his role as Lex Luthor with Adam Baldwin (John Casey from Chuck) returning as Superman as well from Superman: Doomsday in the upcoming MMORPG video game DC Universe Online (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe_Online) . Marsters will also provide the voice of Brainiac as well .

Check out this trailer where Lex Luthor refers to Brainiac as The Brain Inter Active Construct . Look's like Smallville's influence is making a impact even beyond the comics now .

Who Do You Trust - Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-who-dc-universe/702050)

The Incredible Hulk

07-24-2010, 12:09 PM

I thoght the whole "Brain Interactive Construct" thing was in the comics before Smallville? :confused:

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 12:21 PM

I thoght the whole "Brain Interactive Construct" thing was in the comics before Smallville? :confused:

Nope not to my knowledge, I've never heard of Brainiac ever referred to as the "Brain InterActive Construct" in the comics or any other medium before "Smallville" . He was always called Brainiac .

KalKai

07-24-2010, 01:41 PM

That CG trailer is fantastic.

Mike22

07-24-2010, 02:40 PM

Spider-Gamer

07-24-2010, 03:02 PM

Chloe Sullivan is going to be making her "first official DCU appearance" in the new Jimmy Olsen co-feature in Action Comics.

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 04:19 PM

Chloe Sullivan is going to be making her "first official DCU appearance" in the new Jimmy Olsen co-feature in Action Comics.

:facepalm:

KalKai

07-24-2010, 05:07 PM

Prison Mike

07-24-2010, 05:14 PM

I wonder how she will factor in a Jimmy comic? Will the comic take place in the same Smallville universe (just in the future)?

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 05:38 PM

1st look:

http://randombrightness.tumblr.com/post/853805789/first-look-chloe-sullivan-in-action-comics

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6313rrKPJ1qc1hr9o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1280095608&Signature=5BbCAhRfTN62OgelN%2BO1aOLpilI%3D

Jimmy looks awesome,

But that pic of that hot babe doesn't look anything like Chloe Sullivan or Allison Mack from smallville . (Sarcasm)

KalKai

07-24-2010, 05:45 PM

I'd hardly call that a hot babe. Chloe/Allison is way hotter than that.

It's the hair, way too short, makes her look older.

Sawyer

07-24-2010, 05:51 PM

Yeah, I'd say Mack is hotter.

Prison Mike

07-24-2010, 05:56 PM

No doubt that Mack is hotter. I agree about the short hair makes her look older. Maybe this takes place long after Smallville.

KalKai

07-24-2010, 06:08 PM

Wrong thread.

Spider-Gamer

07-24-2010, 06:09 PM

No doubt that Mack is hotter. I agree about the short hair makes her look older. Maybe this takes place long after Smallville.

As stated earlier this takes place in the official DC universe so maybe she looks older because she might be around the same age group as Clark and Lois.

The Incredible Hulk

07-24-2010, 06:10 PM

you're comparing the "hotness" of an actual human being to a drawing???

Christ, guys. Go outside and get some air or something....

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 06:14 PM

I was being Sacrastic.

Prison Mike

07-24-2010, 06:35 PM

What is this "air" you speak of? :huh:

The Caped Knight

07-24-2010, 06:45 PM

That CG trailer is fantastic.
Damn straight it is . I'd love to see a full-length film since the chances of The WB succeeding to make an actual live action film is next to impossible . This type CGI could work real well to make a movie devoted to the Justice League.

That trailer was utterly fantastic. I just loved how the 3D shield looked on Supes, and how realistic the cape looked.
Looking at this superman and seeing how awesome a superman movie can really be like, just makes me hate SR even more.

Indeed, Look at how detailed his suit look even the yellow S emblem on the cape look phenomenal .

Batman's armored suit in the future looks freaking wicked as does his regular traditional attire . Also having the definitive voice of Batman, Kevin Conroy just adds to the epicness of the character .

Man of Tomorrow

07-25-2010, 05:15 AM

Check out this trailer where Lex Luthor refers to Brainiac as The Brain Inter Active Construct . Look's like Smallville's influence is making a impact even beyond the comics now

Nope.

Luthor says "I alone survived; a rat in the walls of the Brainiac construct.."

He didn't speak of the Smallville phrase "Brain Inter Active Construct"

Webhead2006

07-26-2010, 04:13 AM

pretty cool dc universe trailer. As for chloe going to the comics, really whats the big deal there. We have no clue how the story will be, how the character will be treated or how the writers will use her. She could end up being a decent enough character in the books.

LostSon88

08-18-2010, 02:28 AM

Was at the bookstore today and skimmed through Superman/Batman #73:

There's a scene with Lois at her desk and on her wall is an issue of the Daily Planet front page with the headline:

ITS SUPERMAN
Red-Blue Blur gets a Name

:super:

Johnny

08-18-2010, 06:00 AM

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/295/comicsredblueblur.jpg

Very cool image, indeed. ;)

The Caped Knight

08-19-2010, 09:06 PM

Lois and Superman phone call
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/911/superman702031.th.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/superman702031.jpg/)

LostSon88

08-24-2010, 03:44 AM

EDIT: wrong thread.

The Caped Knight

08-26-2010, 08:37 PM

Superman : Secret Origin #6 - Lois and Superman

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img009.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img009.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img010.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img010.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img011.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img011.jpg)
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http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img020.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img020.jpg)

The Caped Knight

08-26-2010, 08:42 PM

"Smallville" - "Metallo" Sequence

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img021.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img021.jpg)

Rest of the issue
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http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img024.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img024.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img025.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img025.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img030.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img030.jpg)
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img031.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img031.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img032.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img032.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img033.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img033.jpg)

The Caped Knight

08-26-2010, 08:43 PM

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img034.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img034.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img035.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img035.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img036.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img036.jpg)
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img037.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img037.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img040.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img040.jpg)http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/th_img041.jpg
(http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww257/winegeek100/Secret%20Origin%206/?action=view&current=img041.jpg)

Serene

09-01-2010, 11:58 PM

From "Superman, Last Family of Krypton."

http://a.imageshack.us/img818/6180/155127090.jpg

ZIPBAGS

09-02-2010, 03:32 PM

Holy cow! That first panel is Tom to a tee. :wow:

From "Superman, Last Family of Krypton."

http://a.imageshack.us/img818/6180/155127090.jpg

Young Superman

09-02-2010, 07:51 PM

Holy cow! That first panel is Tom to a tee. :wow:

Agreed

ZIPBAGS

09-03-2010, 02:51 PM

Their is no reason not to think Smallville would be an influence on the Comics when the comic writers are either writing or advising Smallville.

The Caped Knight

09-06-2010, 03:25 PM

Easter Eggs in Comics: Smallville in Teen Titans (http://comicscube.blogspot.com/2010/07/easter-eggs-in-comics-smallville-in.html)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FVXCQBs2iUU/TCC7YqgK2II/AAAAAAAADd4/_GdS3JLGbLQ/s320/smallville.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FVXCQBs2iUU/TCC7YqgK2II/AAAAAAAADd4/_GdS3JLGbLQ/s1600/smallville.jpg)

Young Superman

09-06-2010, 05:35 PM

Nice

blksuperman2

09-06-2010, 06:24 PM

SV Fan

09-19-2010, 04:20 PM

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/december-2010-dc-solicitations-100920.html

ACTION COMICS #896

And in the hit new JIMMY OLSEN co-feature, Jimmy signs up for a "Win a Date" auction, but much to his surprise, so does his ex, Chloe Sullivan! While Jimmy ends up on a date with CrazyPants McGee, Jimmy's archrival snags Chloe! D'oh! And wait, are those wedding bells we hear? Better hope they don't toll for thee, Olsen!

Prison Mike

09-19-2010, 04:31 PM

So Jimmy and Chloe are exes in the comics? Cool!

KalKai

09-20-2010, 03:36 PM

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Smallville-Chloe-Comic-1023291.aspx

First Look: Smallville's Chloe Makes Her Comic Book Debut

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100920/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/1_mon/100920dc-comics-sullivan1.jpg

Chloe Sullivan won't be seen much during the final season of Smallville (http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/smallville/100398) — Allison Mack (http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/allison-mack/139221) is signed on for just five episodes of the CW drama — but her passionate fans are getting a nice consolation prize. Clark Kent's pal finally makes her first comic-book appearance in DC Comics' Action Comics No. 893 (on sale September 29). "She's a very successful and dedicated reporter and a major player in Metropolis," says Nick Spencer, who is writing the story (with art by R.B. Silva).

To introduce Chloe — the only key Smallville character who did not originate in Superman's comic adventures — Spencer had to make a few tweaks to her history. "It's a pretty different continuity, which I think has always been the challenging part of bringing Chloe into the DC Comics Universe," Spencer says. "She's never existed in the comics before, so in order to make a part of Clark's life when he was a teenager in Smallville, you'd have to do it somewhat retroactively, and it would age Chloe as a character a lot, since Superman is well past that part of his life in the books."

That said, Spencer promises that "she's the same dogged, funny and principled girl we've all come to love." She'll appear alongside Daily Planet photographer Jimmy Olsen (a version of the character married Chloe on Smallville and later died in the Season 8 finale). Teases Spencer: "She and Jimmy have a previous relationship and that causes him to embark on a huge adventure that takes him across space and alternate realities to prove something to himself and her."

The Caped Knight

09-20-2010, 10:33 PM

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/solicitation-artwork/October-2010/SMSO-TP.jpg

Young Superman

09-20-2010, 10:39 PM

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/solicitation-artwork/October-2010/SMSO-TP.jpg

Nice

The Sage

09-21-2010, 07:39 AM

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/solicitation-artwork/October-2010/SMSO-TP.jpg

Where is this from? I need a bigger picture of it! :eek:

Johnny

09-21-2010, 09:11 AM

I think it's from the hardcover edition of Superman: Secret Origin.

Webhead2006

09-24-2010, 06:53 PM

cool

The Caped Knight

10-01-2010, 06:46 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/vo7qip.jpg
This looks like Tom

KalKai

10-01-2010, 06:49 PM

That's a really nice cover.

Gianakin_

10-01-2010, 06:51 PM

Yeah, the haircut sure reminds me of Tom. I see the costume (the torso part) is a bit different from the classic, too. I like it. Good look.

Man of Tomorrow

10-01-2010, 07:07 PM

Shane Davis is notorious for basing his Superman artwork on a certain \S/ actor, but it isn't Tom.

BUT I do like that suit.

Gianakin_

10-01-2010, 07:14 PM

Who is he basing it to? I can't say the face reminds me of anyone.

KalKai

10-01-2010, 07:19 PM

That's because it doesn't particulary look like anyone, certainly not Routh.

If the artist is basing it on him he's doing a bad job. :hehe:

Man of Tomorrow

10-01-2010, 07:21 PM

It's somewhat obvious, but that particular shot isn't very clear.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/1/11753_400x600.jpg http://dccomics.com/media/product/1/0/10853_400x600.jpg

Nevertheless, I'm anticipating the comic release.

What's interesting is Superman year one is Clark when he's 21, saving the city in the shadows. It's similar to the Red-Blue Blur on SV. It's a much younger version of the character.

Gianakin_

10-01-2010, 07:22 PM

He doesn't look anything like Routh in the Wizard cover. He KINDA resembles him FAINTLY in the Trinity cover, the left one.

Man of Tomorrow

10-01-2010, 07:25 PM

The only difference between the two above is the hair parting. Facially, it's the same basis.

The Superman Year One is supposed to be a younger version of that artwork.

Gianakin_

10-02-2010, 02:39 AM

Really? I seriously still can't see it. But if the artist said so...

Webhead2006

10-02-2010, 09:31 AM

yea i dont really see routh in those drawing much, if anyone is used as most common drawing for superman its reeve.

The Caped Knight

10-05-2010, 11:31 PM

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/65157/1368459-kalel2lfok.jpg
This looks like Tom as The Blur, but actually it's young Kal-El from Superman: The family of El

Young Superman

10-06-2010, 12:37 AM

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/65157/1368459-kalel2lfok.jpg
This looks like Tom as The Blur, but actually it's young Kal-El from Superman: The family of El

Cool

Young Superman

10-06-2010, 12:40 AM

IMO the Superman: Birthright version of Superman looks a lot like Welling.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2242/birthright1200xv5.jpg

SV Fan

10-06-2010, 12:44 AM

Sadly Superman: Earth One seems to taking some of the bad aspects of Smallville, from the previews this Clark Kent seems a little emo

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/09/02/superman-earth-one-preview/

Webhead2006

10-06-2010, 01:05 AM

i dont see how he is too emo there.

SV Fan

10-06-2010, 01:08 AM

i dont see how he is too emo there.

While not to the degree of Smallville Clark he sort of seems sad and depressed in the scans

Gianakin_

10-06-2010, 02:28 AM

IMO the Superman: Birthright version of Superman looks a lot like Welling.

Nope, can't see the resemblance there, either.

Johnny

10-06-2010, 04:37 AM

While not to the degree of Smallville Clark he sort of seems sad and depressed in the scans

They said Clark is 21 here. And well, not all young people these days are exactly all bright and confident. JMS is trying to make it realistic. And there's nothing wrong with that, I really don't picture Clark growing up nowadays and being all bright and positive since the very beginning.

Gianakin_

10-06-2010, 07:10 AM

This looks like Tom as The Blur, but actually it's young Kal-El from Superman: The family of El

He really does. That's pretty cool!

10-06-2010, 07:21 AM

This looks like Tom as The Blur, but actually it's young Kal-El from Superman: The family of El

Definatly does.

I'm not seeing any real resemblance to Welling though from the Birthright design.. :dry:

kal-elrebooted

10-30-2010, 10:09 AM

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8458/clarklana02.jpg
By supermanrebooted (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/supermanrebooted) at 2010-10-30

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/900/035qcl.jpg
By supermanrebooted (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/supermanrebooted) at 2010-10-28

Webhead2006

10-30-2010, 04:22 PM

hey for any one who has picked up superman earth one i was wondering does clark wear glasses once he starts work at the planet, and if so how do they go about them in this tale?

kal-elrebooted

10-30-2010, 05:03 PM

hey for any one who has picked up superman earth one i was wondering does clark wear glasses once he starts work at the planet, and if so how do they go about them in this tale?
Yeah

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7052/1481992118.jpg
By supermanrebooted (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/supermanrebooted) at 2010-10-30

Webhead2006

10-30-2010, 08:06 PM

Ok thanks man, what's the story on why he does glasses here. Is it the usual deal?

kal-elrebooted

10-30-2010, 10:12 PM

Pretty Much but i still want to get the book

Webhead2006

10-31-2010, 08:49 AM

Thanks for answer just wanted to know.

The Caped Knight

10-31-2010, 11:45 AM

Well it looks like Conner Kent's life in "Smallville" is going to be heavily based off of the tv series "Smallville" .

Conner is sitting on the Smallville water tower much like Kara did in "Bizarro" and Conner mentioned how "Smallville" is his home much like Clark did in his youth many times in the show.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4217/sbv21dylux3copy.jpg

Check out Phantom Stangers dialogue with Conner it's very familiar to Jor-El's warning to Clark in Season 5 "Arrival", "Hidden" and even Season 10 "Lazarus".
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9977/sbv21dylux6copy.jpg

Conner rescues Martha much like Clark has done countless times
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8683/sbv21dylux7copy.jpg