Catwoman / Selina Kyle thread

[Timstuff]

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[Gianakin_]

Catwoman rocks:woot:

[batboy99]

I think Shumacher has potential but screws it up for unknown reasons 90% of the time.

My point was different, though. You said so himself that Boll is crap, Bay is mediocre etc, so if you put them next to Nolan, won't he look like a genius?
compaired to those two, ya, but theres some directors in hollywood that are better than Nolan

[Timstuff]

Catwoman rocks:woot:

And don't forget it!

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6734/catwoman46bi3.jpg

[Gianakin_]

compaired to those two, ya, but theres some directors in hollywood that are better than Nolan

Yes, but gothamcentral (or me) didn't deny that.

Especially gothamcentral said that "Compared to others, he's a genius". He didn't say "He's a genius on his own, period".

On topic: I don't think I like the dominatrix angle, especially since I got a load of her in the unused Sam Hamm Batman Returns script. I'll pass.

[Gianakin_]

And don't forget it!

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6734/catwoman46bi3.jpg

So, is that Selina or this Robinson gal?

[batboy99]

thats selina

[Timstuff]

There are virtually no pics of Holly Catwoman on the Google Image search, and I think it's because a lot of people hated her as Catwoman.

[Gianakin_]

So, they drew Selina after Hepburn, huh? That's not bad at all as a nod.

Is she still retired?

PS: I know I can wiki it, but I prefer the convo.

[Timstuff]

I don't read a lot of comics, but I know that Selina did put the costume back on (which actually meant that there were two Catwomen at the same time, temporarily) and she ended up having to give up her baby up for adoption because it was getting too dangerous for her. I don't know what's happened since then, but I'd assume that if Selina has given up her hopes of being a mother, she'd want to continue life as Catwoman (which would mean that Holly would have to hang up her own costume, presumably).

Personally, I'm glad that they decided to drop the whole "Selina is a mommy" story, because I don't think that I could have accepted Holly perminantly replacing her as Catwoman. It seemed like just another comic book shock-value stunt, and I think they realized it wasn't necessarily a good idea for the future of the comic. Selina Kyle is the main character of Catwoman, and chances are if you read the comic, it's because you want to read about her, not her supporting cast.

[Gianakin_]

I see. And seeing that you didn't mention a lot of Batman doing stuff with her, I must say I'm not very interested in reading that.

[Mr. Socko]

No way that they will include Riddler, Freeze, Bane, or Mad Hatter! The only other than Catwoman I can see them have is Black Mask. But even that is doubtful.

Riddler, the only reason I'm saying Nolan probably would not use him is because he already has Two Face planned for the next film as well, but who knows, he could probably make it work. Because I mean then again, this film features Harvey Dent and The Joker. Two prominent characters from B'89, so using the same villains from BF would not be THAT big of a deal. But I would prefer he not.

Freeze, Bane, Mad Hatter? Doubt we'll see any of them in Batman 3.

Nolan is no worse at fight scenes than Tim Burton. One of my biggest criticisms of Burton has always been that he can't direct action for crap. Nolan may not be much better, but at least he tries to hide what his fights lack in choreography through camera angles.

I always thought the choreography of fight scenes in B'89 was rather poor, and Burton shot them in a straight forward manner, unfortunately giving away the glaring problems in the actual fights. On the other hand, Begins had superb choreography, but the scenes were shot in a very blurry manner.

[Timstuff]

I think that Nolan may have been trying too hard to avoid falling into the same traps as the other Batman movies with how he filmed his fight scenes, and ended up falling into a different one altogether. Still, Begins is a great movie, and unlike so many other summer action flicks, the fight scenes aren't what you watch it for.

[batboy99]

I don't read a lot of comics, but I know that Selina did put the costume back on (which actually meant that there were two Catwomen at the same time, temporarily) and she ended up having to give up her baby up for adoption because it was getting too dangerous for her. I don't know what's happened since then, but I'd assume that if Selina has given up her hopes of being a mother, she'd want to continue life as Catwoman (which would mean that Holly would have to hang up her own costume, presumably).

Personally, I'm glad that they decided to drop the whole "Selina is a mommy" story, because I don't think that I could have accepted Holly perminantly replacing her as Catwoman. It seemed like just another comic book shock-value stunt, and I think they realized it wasn't necessarily a good idea for the future of the comic. Selina Kyle is the main character of Catwoman, and chances are if you read the comic, it's because you want to read about her, not her supporting cast.

yes, selina put the costume back on when holly was caught by the cops, so selina went to save her.

[jmc]

Back to the topic - Catwoman Rocks!

[David Rice]

christopher nolan>albert einstien

batman begins/the dark knight >the theory of relativity

that is all.


this thread got lame:whatever:

Thank you.

Oh, ok, thanks for clarifying:up:




Well, he's somewhat right, dont you think? I mean take Uwe Boll, Shumacher, Bay... I can't help but agree with him.:woot:

And thank you more! :woot:

[Timstuff]

I like Michael Bay. He makes big loud movies that are fun to watch. I don't see what's wrong with movies for fun.

Semi-back-on-topic, my Hush Catwoman figure came today. Yay! :)

[jmc]

^ Bay's films are all about boom, crash, bang, with no character and little resemblance of a plot. He's the cinema equivalent to junk food.

[CaptainClown]

Bay's films are more for entertainment rather then something you can take home and rethink your life.

[Nepenthes]

Aaron Eckhart/Two Face could definitely hold his own as a sole villain.

But they'll probably introduce one other.

I'd count on a mob boss, and possibly Catwoman. I'd have said Joker too but...

It's not as simple as whether Ekhart can merely "hold his own". I expect he will and he'll make a great Two-Face and a lead villain.....but the question is whether the movie itself will be sufficiently "bigger" than TDK to make an impression on people. Not to sound cynical but sequels need to up the bang entirely, that's a fact. A lead villain that not alot of people are familiar with, who was last represented the forgetful-if-it-was-not-so-godamn-embarrasingly-awful Batman Forever, is not going to make the film a very attractive sell at all. And the fact is by movie three ordinary people ARE going to be asking "where's Catwoman? bring on Catwoman". She is ABSOLUTELY neccersarry to produce movie three. She's an injection of sex appeal and a classic ol gal that EVERYBODY loves.

I think people love Catwoman more than they do Batman or Joker, easily, by far.

[CaptainClown]

I think Two-face is a villain that works better bossing other minor villains around like the mad hatter, poison ivy, mr. freeze and so on, like in Dark Victory.

[jmc]

It's not as simple as whether Ekhart can merely "hold his own". I expect he will and he'll make a great Two-Face and a lead villain.....but the question is whether the movie itself will be sufficiently "bigger" than TDK to make an impression on people. Not to sound cynical but sequels need to up the bang entirely, that's a fact. A lead villain that not alot of people are familiar with, who was last represented the forgetful-if-it-was-not-so-godamn-embarrasingly-awful Batman Forever, is not going to make the film a very attractive sell at all. And the fact is by movie three ordinary people ARE going to be asking "where's Catwoman? bring on Catwoman". She is ABSOLUTELY neccersarry to produce movie three. She's an injection of sex appeal and a classic ol gal that EVERYBODY loves.

I think people love Catwoman more than they do Batman or Joker, easily, by far.

Easy to say that about Catwoman, but if Nolan isn't sure if the character has a place in film three, there's no sense in putting her in just to appease the masses. Raimi did that in SPM3 with Venom, he wasn't sure about adding the character but caved in, the end result was woeful, a half arsed version of the character. I would like to see Catwoman in this series, but only if a place in the story can be found for her, I'd hate to see Nolan just start adding villains for the sake of it, if Two face is all he wants to use, so be it, is the character on the same level as Joker, Catwoman and Penguin in terms of general public awareness? Of course not, but he is one of Batman's top villains and for once deserves top billing on screen. Adding another 'well known' character just for the sake of it is merely cheap tactics to get a few more bums on seats. If people complain that there's no Catwoman or whoever, let them complain, I'll be to busy watching Two Face hogging the limelight.

[deathfromabove]

It's not as simple as whether Ekhart can merely "hold his own". I expect he will and he'll make a great Two-Face and a lead villain.....but the question is whether the movie itself will be sufficiently "bigger" than TDK to make an impression on people. Not to sound cynical but sequels need to up the bang entirely, that's a fact. A lead villain that not alot of people are familiar with, who was last represented the forgetful-if-it-was-not-so-godamn-embarrasingly-awful Batman Forever, is not going to make the film a very attractive sell at all. And the fact is by movie three ordinary people ARE going to be asking "where's Catwoman? bring on Catwoman". She is ABSOLUTELY neccersarry to produce movie three. She's an injection of sex appeal and a classic ol gal that EVERYBODY loves.

I think people love Catwoman more than they do Batman or Joker, easily, by far.

really?:whatever:

still i would love to see selina make an appearance.

[metal666]

Nepenthes
She's an injection of sex appeal and a classic ol gal that EVERYBODY loves.

Agreed. Also, if maggie is killed off or just written out of the story the movie is going to turn into a sausage fest. :csad:

[StorminNorman]

I think people love Catwoman more than they do Batman or Joker, easily, by far.

This comment is just simply absurd.

[Timstuff]

Nepenthes


Agreed. Also, if maggie is killed off or just written out of the story the movie is going to turn into a sausage fest. :csad:

True. I actually speculate that Rachel might be in a relationship with Harvey in TDK, but I could be wrong. At any rate, I think that she's gonna have this guy following her in TDK:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2889/grimreaper300mz9.gif

With Batman's primary love interest from the first movie / two movies out of the picture, Catwoman should be there to catch him on the rebound.

[BatmanFanatic]

Nolan is no worse at fight scenes than Tim Burton. One of my biggest criticisms of Burton has always been that he can't direct action for crap. Nolan may not be much better, but at least he tries to hide what his fights lack in choreography through camera angles.

So when are we going to get a Batman movie where the fighting is actually .. *shock* good? :csad::oldrazz:

At least with Burton I could see what Batman was doing. But yes, the fighting was lame. Bats had no moves. And I think the choreography was likely fantastic judging by the special features... Nolan just didnt SHOW any of it.

I hope TDK will be a big improvement in that department. I hope, I hope, I hope.

[Laderlappen]

If Rachel dies, you can just forget about Catwoman. But she's not so...

[Timstuff]

If Rachel dies, you can just forget about Catwoman.

How so? Are you suggesting that Batman 3 will be a sausage fest? :huh:

[Mr. Socko]

The Batman films could use more female supporting roles. I've been saying this for the longest.

[Timstuff]

Having no love interest would be flat and boring.

[Dark Knight]

I think it's a given that Selina/Catwoman will be in the 3rd Nolan film.

I also think that Oswald/Penguin will be in some scenes in a supporting role as a mob boss/arms dealer.

[Laderlappen]

How so? Are you suggesting that Batman 3 will be a sausage fest? :huh:Bruce would be emotionally unstable if the closest friend and exloveinterest was murdered. And outta respect for her, he wouldn't start a romantic relationship right after she dies.

[Timstuff]

If she dies in TDK, and Batman 3 doesn't come out until 2010 or 2011, then I'd expect to see the story deal with him moving on (which is where Catwoman comes in).

[batboy99]

Then id have Selina and harley or Talia and Harley.

[Mr. Socko]

I think it's a given that Selina/Catwoman will be in the 3rd Nolan film.

I also think that Oswald/Penguin will be in some scenes in a supporting role as a mob boss/arms dealer.

What leads you to either of these conclusions?

I'd love to see Catwoman but I don't see how it, or anything, is a given. As for Penguin...why do you think he will have a supporting role when Nolan has gone on record saying he is not interested in the character. You usually make pretty good points but right now you are pulling non-existent assertions out of thin air.

I'm not saying he wouldn't have a love interest. I'm saying it's possible for two female characters to be in the movie with one being the love interest and the other just being a supporting character, not love interest or third part of love triangle.


Exactly:up:

[wikum]

Beg to differ, if Two Face is the only villain in a possible film three, Eckhart can more than hold his own, he's a fantastic actor.

Acting wise....yes he can.

As a draw for $$$/tickets/fans ect....I think not.

[Conebone69]

Having no love interest would be flat and boring.
Agreed. He has to have a love intrest

[Ledlunar]

i think joker will be re cast for 3 aswell, its not like it would be rude or anything it was a accidental death, i mean a stunt man was killed and they kept the stunts in it....... They recast maggie even though they could have taken her out, i think nolan wants to really create batmans world too and leaving joker out after him coming in is wrong

[jmc]

Acting wise....yes he can.

As a draw for $$$/tickets/fans ect....I think not.

If the movie is good enough it will draw people in regardless if it's Eckhart or Tom Cruise playing the role.

[Figs]

Having no love interest would be flat and boring.


Wouldn't having a love interest be cliche' and typical though?

I think with what's going through Bruce/Batman's head most of the time, that's more then enough depth to spread out over the films.

[jmc]

Would a love interest angle work in this series? Is the Bat gonna have time to focus on anything other than trying to stop Dent? I'm not really sure.

[†~AntiChrist~†]

If the movie is good enough it will draw people in regardless if it's Eckhart or Tom Cruise playing the role.

It will, Its batman were talking about..No doubt it will have people excited..

[The Joker_1000]

I really don't want to see Catwoman in this franchise. I like the character (somewhat) but I don't think she belongs in this franchise.

[Timstuff]

Naturally, I disagree. I don't think I can wait until the franchise changes hands again to see Catwoman done correctly. And more importantly, I really would like to see how Nolan and crew handles her character, because so far it seems like they're doing an excellent job adapting Batman's world to film.

[The Joker_1000]

I'm not going to ***** & moan if she makes it into the franchise but I just don't really want to see her. I'm more interested in seeing villains like Clayface, Killer Croc, Bane, & Mr. Freeze.

[†~AntiChrist~†]

I would like to see freeze and bane but catwoman is one of my favorites..

[Aidan2209]

Having no love interest would be flat and boring.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/th3n00b/family-guy-i-disagree-1.jpg

[†~AntiChrist~†]

:grin:

[The Battousai]

Those damn drive-by arguments :cmad: They get me in such a tiff!

[dark_knight08]

:batty: The role of Catwoman should be played by Kate Beckinsale.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I wish they could include Catwoman in Nolan's Batman franchise but Ill bet money to anyone that we wont see it happen.

[Laderlappen]

I don't think she belongs in this franchise.
I'm more interested in seeing villains like Clayface, Killer Croc, Bane, & Mr. Freeze.
:whatever: :woot:

[The Guard]

but I don't think she belongs in this franchise.

What does that even mean? If they make a story with her involved, she'd belong as much as The Joker or Ra's Al Ghul or Harvey Dent did.

[MarkJK1441]

i havn't looked through this thread so don't flame me for thiw question but has there been some rumors that catwomen will be in the next installment or is it all speculation

[Mr. Socko]

I'm not going to ***** & moan if she makes it into the franchise but I just don't really want to see her. I'm more interested in seeing villains like Clayface, Killer Croc, Bane, & Mr. Freeze.

Catwoman is far more fitting, and dare I say, realistic, for this series than any of the above names.

:batty: The role of Catwoman should be played by Kate Beckinsale.

After finally seeing her academy award deserving performance in that classic vampire duology with Davy Jones, I definitely agree! She is so full of talent it would be best if Nolan cast her as Harley too.

[jmc]

i havn't looked through this thread so don't flame me for thiw question but has there been some rumors that catwomen will be in the next installment or is it all speculation

Just speculation, this threads more about the character and how she could be adapted.

[CaptainClown]

Also who to cast, nobody in this thread really agrees though. We bicker and bicker and it kind of goes around in a circle until a new aspect to bicker about is brought up. The most common one is who to cast.

[jmc]

^ And you get the usual names like Beckinsale and Jolie. :whatever: There's usually a backlash against any actress mentioned, although I have noticed that Keri Russell seems to be the one name who causes the least amount of drama.

[regwec]

...and Sienna Guillory is awesome. :)

[CaptainClown]

Jmc is kind of right it doesn't get that heated when Russell is mentioned. The usually flamers don't really post those OMG YER AN IDIOT! posts

[David Rice]

...and Sienna Guillory is awesome. :)

... and Keri Russell is not. :woot:

[†~AntiChrist~†]

:grin:

[batboy99]

... and Keri Russell is not. :woot:
:whatever:



:oldrazz:

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Its smiley central...

[batboy99]

yee-ha!

[†~AntiChrist~†]

:indy:

[Gianakin_]

:indy:


You want Harrison Ford to play Selina?

:oldrazz:

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Heh..

[The Battousai]

Hey, are you against Christ?

Maybe he just doesn't like Handel's Messiah :oldrazz:

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Not mine.......

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Thats good jim..

[The Battousai]

It's all cool, man

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/7/_/n/lucyStill_05.jpg

[CaptainClown]

you can pound my tom tom

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Everybodys religious...

[The Battousai]

Everybodys religious...

Who said that? :ninja:

[†~AntiChrist~†]

Dont worry..

[David Rice]

:whatever:



:oldrazz:

What? It was funny. :yay:

[Lumenis]

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Selma Blair easily, she has the looks of classic Selina Kyle. Raven-haired and with exotic eyes that ooze with sex appeal yet a glisten of mischief behind them. Very cat-like.

The dealio with Nolan's films is that there are people that can actually act. Blair is no powerhouse actress but she's not an empty actress either.

My other choice would be Rachel Weisz but I think most people would find her too old to play the role. Anna Paquin has also played the sultry temptress in many of her movies and does have a body for the bodysuit but dunno if she'd be good for this role. Yet having the body curves to look good in the leather suit is a huge issue as well

[Mr. Socko]

Who said that? :ninja:


Manson just got tagged:ninja:

[David Rice]

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Selma Blair easily, she has the looks of classic Selina Kyle. Raven-haired and with exotic eyes that ooze with sex appeal yet a glisten of mischief behind them. Very cat-like.

The dealio with Nolan's films is that there are people that can actually act. Blair is no powerhouse actress but she's not an empty actress either.

My other choice would be Rachel Weisz but I think most people would find her too old to play the role. Anna Paquin has also played the sultry temptress in many of her movies and does have a body for the bodysuit but dunno if she'd be good for this role. Yet having the body curves to look good in the leather suit is a huge issue as well

Rachel Weisz yes, Selma Blair no.

[Laderlappen]

If I HAD to have a 2nd favourit, I guess it would be Rachel Weisz. I find it strange that she gets suggested for Talia all the time, but never for Catwoman.

[jmc]

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Don't know what it is but she's always creeped me out. :wow:

[bruce_kent]

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I think that Selma Blair is a good choice possible for Talia Al Ghul, equal that Rachel Weisz or Michelle Monaghan.

But my choice for Catwoman is Rachel Roberts (S1m0ne), who i think is equal to Michelle Pfeiffer.

Bye.

[Dew k. Mosi]

I'm going to start banning. Knock it off. Stop sending angry PMs and stop posting them. There is an ignore button, use it

[Bright Knight]

http://www.mi6.co.uk/livenews/images/eva_green.jpg


Eva Green FTW!!!

[ArmsHeldOut]

http://www.mi6.co.uk/livenews/images/eva_green.jpg


Eva Green FTW!!!

Probably my favorite choice at the moment. I was initially more in favor of Lena Headey for the role, but I have to say .. Eva is the frontrunner in my book, as of now.

[Nepenthes]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/12/05/Theron_wideweb__470x345.jpg

hmm yeah Charlize is the ONLY one for the part. if you're not comfortable with that yet then you obviously havn't seen her in enough movies :cwink:. this thread should be renamed the Charlize/Catwoman thread
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[Bright Knight]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/12/05/Theron_wideweb__470x345.jpg

hmm yeah Charlize is the ONLY one for the part. if you're not comfortable with that yet then you obviously havn't seen her in enough movies :cwink:. this thread should be renamed the Charlize/Catwoman thread
:heart:http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii318/barbarabush8/catwoman_dc.gif

I'm meeting her on the 16th. I was invited to the Irish Premier of her film Battle in Seattle and she's gonna be at it during the Irish Film Festival and we're all going out for dinner after apparently!

Sweet!

[CaptainClown]

ok I must not be comfortable with her because I haven't seen her in enough movies, but I don't care for her for the role.

[batboy99]

What if she was actually cast(doubt it will), Majik, would you be really dissapointed?

[Mr. Socko]

I'm meeting her on the 16th. I was invited to the Irish Premier of her film Battle in Seattle and she's gonna be at it during the Irish Film Festival and we're all going out for dinner after apparently!

Sweet!


You better tap that before Will Smith gets there!

[Golgo-13]

Probably my favorite choice at the moment. I was initially more in favor of Lena Headey for the role, but I have to say .. Eva is the frontrunner in my book, as of now.

I like Lena Headey.

[batboy99]

I think she can pull it off, but i do feel it would probably feel like Aeon Flux 2

[CaptainClown]

CC votes for Lena and Keri..I want both

[Obsidian]

Not sure if she's been mentioned already, but what about Marion Cotillard?

http://olivier.quenechdu.free.fr/spip/IMG/jpg/marion.jpg

[nedflanders]

Mena Suvari?

[The Joker_1000]

She doesn't really have the look of Catwoman to me. Then again, neither did Halle Berry.

[Laderlappen]

Not sure if she's been mentioned already, but what about Marion Cotillard?

We have talked about Marion here. She definetly has the look and the acting chops. She would have been my 2nd favourit choice if it wasn't for one little problem. She has problem with her english.

She's starring in the new gangster movie Public Enemies along with Christian Bale & Johnny Depp which sounds fantastic.

[Nepenthes]

ok I must not be comfortable with her because I haven't seen her in enough movies, but I don't care for her for the role.

Have you seen Monster? the film. Is it her looks/type/acting skill or something else your don't care for?

If it's acting I base my entire apprasial off Monster and North Country. The characters are kinda similair in aspects, she'd NAIL Selina in all her depth and complexity and Catwoman well I've seen bits of Aeon Flux to know she looks amazing in action. And crucially, she's believable when she wants to go all hardcore and mean and that's something pretty much no other actress has so far imo. To me she's the equivlant of Bale for Batman, you couldn't ask for a more perfect match it's absurd

[nedflanders]

She doesn't really have the look of Catwoman to me. Then again, neither did Halle Berry.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8255/menasuvariunknown3127a7dc7.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menasuvariunknown3127a7dc7.jpg)

I think it's a good match. Good body type too for more acrobatic work.

[Miranda Fox]

Emily Blunt. She's got the kind of presence I would expect Selina to have, I'm not quite sure how to describe it. I realise she's not conventionally attractive perse but well, check out this manip:

http://www.basin-city.net/images/catw6.jpg

[Crook]

Not sexy enough. :o

[Miranda Fox]

Not sexy enough. :o

I knew you'd start. :oldrazz: :woot:

[Crook]

These American girls just aren't doing it for me anymore. :(

I'm starting to think that it might be more useful to look outside the States, and start looking at the international crowd. Lord knows there are tons of beautiful women out there. There should be quite a few that'd fit the bill for the role.

[jmc]

We have talked about Marion here. She definetly has the look and the acting chops. She would have been my 2nd favourit choice if it wasn't for one little problem. She has problem with her english.

She's starring in the new gangster movie Public Enemies along with Christian Bale & Johnny Depp which sounds fantastic.

Nothing a dialog coach can't help with, Marion would make a very interesting Catwoman.

[Miranda Fox]

These American girls just aren't doing it for me anymore. :(

I'm starting to think that it might be more useful to look outside the States, and start looking at the international crowd. Lord knows there are tons of beautiful women out there. There should be quite a few that'd fit the bill for the role.

Emily Blunt = English.

BTW, that is an awesome avatar Crook.

[turtlefocker]

Marion Cotillard sounds good. I can't wait for public enemies

[Crook]

Nothing a dialog coach can't help with, Marion would make a very interesting Catwoman.
She'd be interesting, yeah. But if she has a very thick French accent, then I don't know if a dialect coach can even help with that. From my experience, it's practically impossible for the French to do any convincing American accent, if they haven't spoken it at an early age.

The girls sound ridiculously cute trying to do it, I'll give 'em that. :o

Emily Blunt = English.

BTW, that is an awesome avatar Crook.
I was thinking of someone from Italy (since there is the Falcone relation), or maybe from Australia (they always seem to crank out some really good actors).

And thanks. :up:

[Miranda Fox]

I was thinking of someone from Italy (since there is the Falcone relation), or maybe from Australia (they always seem to crank out some really good actors).

And thanks. :up:

No problem. ;)

I never honestly considered an Italian actress. I'm still kind of partial to my fellow UK'ers, I admit. ;)

Another English actress I thought of:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/aliasvaughn/002.jpg

Romola Garai. There is, somewhere out there, a photoshoot of her with brown hair and she looks stunning.

[jmc]

She'd be interesting, yeah. But if she has a very thick French accent, then I don't know if a dialect coach can even help with that. From my experience, it's practically impossible for the French to do any convincing American accent, if they haven't spoken it at an early age.

The girls sound ridiculously cute trying to do it, I'll give 'em that. :o


Well, I know people are opposed to the idea but if that's the case, you could just leave her with a French accent, could make the character seem more exotic. I await the flood of fanboy backlash for such a comment.... :woot:

[Crook]

I never honestly considered an Italian actress. I'm still kind of partial to my fellow UK'ers, I admit. ;)
Wait, so you have....a British accent? I never knew. :cmad:

Another English actress I thought of:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/aliasvaughn/002.jpg

Romola Garai. There is, somewhere out there, a photoshoot of her with brown hair and she looks stunning.
She looks very homely. I haven't seen Atonement yet, but I heard she's very good. Reminds me more of a Barbara Gordon than a Selina though.

Her looks aren't very striking.

This isn't just because I'm a man. It's all about the role. Really. :o

Well, I know people are opposed to the idea but if that's the case, you could just leave her with a French accent, could make the character seem more exotic. I await the flood of fanboy backlash for such a comment.... :woot:
That actually would be interesting. I can't say I'm completely against it, because I really do have a very soft spot for French women (so hot! :O).

One thing they have in spades is natural allure and beauty. Definitely useful for someone like Selina. :up:

[Laderlappen]

It's not her accent that's the problem. Many from the Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are not americans and speak with a different accent. Marion Cotillard has diffuculties with the language. And for somedy like that, it's not exactly easy to speak english fluently without an accent.

[Miranda Fox]

Wait, so you have....a British accent? I never knew.

You learn something new every day. :woot:


She looks very homely. I haven't seen Atonement yet, but I heard she's very good. Reminds me more of a Barbara Gordon than a Selina though.

Her looks aren't very striking.

This isn't just because I'm a man. It's all about the role. Really. :o

Of course, I never thought otherwise.

Well, most of the time, I agree she isn't the most striking woman but I do think as a brunette she looks pretty good. But that's just my opinion. ;)

[Laderlappen]

I like your choices Miranda. Finally somebody that suggest actresses more based on their acting and if they fit with the other cast than looks.
I was thinking of someone from Italy (since there is the Falcone relation), But how italian is Falcone from the movie supposed to be? And I doubt they will make any connection that she's related to Falcone.

[Crook]

It's not her accent that's the problem. Many from the Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are not americans and speak with a different accent. Marion Cotillard has diffuculties with the language. And for somedy like that, it's not exactly easy to speak english fluently without an accent.
That's true as well. I just saw a couple Youtube vids of her, and she mentions English was very difficult as it was only recently she started speaking it.

It would be great to have her though. Just to add the clout for this franchise. Another oscar-nominated actor thrown into the fray wouldn't hurt. Plus it helps that her acting is great as well as her looks. Unlike some recent female cast member in TDK. :ninja:

You learn something new every day. :woot:
An audio clip saying "I'm a British girl, and I love Batman!" is in order. :o

Well, most of the time, I agree she isn't the most striking woman but I do think as a brunette she looks pretty good. But that's just my opinion. ;)
Pics would help. I wasn't a fan of Keri Russell either, until I saw some recent pics that made her look absolutely stunning.

But how italian is Falcone from the movie supposed to be? And I doubt they will make any connection that she's related to Falcone.
Falcone had a pretty damn thick Italian accent in BB. And the connection doesn't have to be put out there, or even implied. Could be just a slight nod to the fans.

[Mr. Socko]

Really? I always thought Wilkinson was attempting a very poor Brooklyn accent in Begins.

[jmc]

That's true as well. I just saw a couple Youtube vids of her, and she mentions English was very difficult as it was only recently she started speaking it.

It would be great to have her though. Just to add the clout for this franchise. Another oscar-nominated actor thrown into the fray wouldn't hurt. Plus it helps that her acting is great as well as her looks. Unlike some recent female cast member in TDK. :ninja:


Just watch some Youtube vids of her now actually speaking English, her French accent isn't really that thick.

[batboy99]

Ivy to me, evedn if ivy isnt in any of the movie,s shes still more ivy to me than Catwoman. I wouldnt mind her as selin,a but i cant really picture her in the role eitherEmily Blunt. She's got the kind of presence I would expect Selina to have, I'm not quite sure how to describe it. I realise she's not conventionally attractive perse but well, check out this manip:

http://www.basin-city.net/images/catw6.jpg

[batboy99]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8255/menasuvariunknown3127a7dc7.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menasuvariunknown3127a7dc7.jpg)

I think it's a good match. Good body type too for more acrobatic work.oh god no

[jmc]

Whilst Marion Cotillard's name is being thrown around, might as well mention she just won the BAFTA for best actress, nice one :up:.

[jmc]

^ I was listening to her speak today and although she did have trouble understanding some questions asked upon her, her grasp on English is actually quite good and her accent is not your stereotypical Pepe Le Pew style French accent, it's very subtle, I'm convinced with a good dialect coach she would be fine.

[Timstuff]

Do you think that if Catwoman's claws are sharp enough to cut glass, they'd be sharp enough to pierce Batman's nomex suit from Batman Begins? I want to see Catwoman leave him with a claw scar, like in the comics. Maybe it wouldn't be realistic for her to actually leave a long slash mark (I mean let's face it-- Fox did tell Bruce his suit could "stop a knife"), but maybe 3 or 4 little round scars where the claws on her fingers puncture his suit would work.

[Nepenthes]

Havn't seen Emily Blunt in anything but apparently Charlie Wilsons War is pretty good so i might check out her next cheap Tuesday.

On the claws...you know they're going to be nasty for regular crooks and that'll make for some cool scenes, but for Batman I'd prefer to see how she deals with a more capable foe. For example she tries to slash him..her claws get stuck in his gut and he backhands her to the ground...she cartwheels and recovers, gets her rope around his neck and throws him off the side of a building, jumps after him, aims with her HEEL and drives it into chest from a three story drop. This HURTS. Just an example, she's got alot more than claws going for her against Batman.

She should also carry a stun gun, bolt cutters, crowbars etc, and her 'whip' is a actually a climbing rope. If I saw some chick creeping into my mansion WITH A WHIP I'd just go what the hell and shoot her, Indiana styles. A whip is a very stupid weapon, not too mention useless for climbing or grabbing hold of flagpoles while hurtling in mid-air. She should have a climbing rope and a seperate cat o'nine tails explicity for intimdating people, a cat 'o nine tails is a weapon you don't see very often and when someone pulls it out you're gonna be like WTF :shock:. She gets a sick pleasure from 'punishing' cops and fat hairy mob bosses, she's the Robin Hood who goes a little bit further meeting out the discipline. Oh and she has handcuffs for bailing up security guards, and guess what, they're covered in pink fur :cwink: :heart:

[jmc]

In regards to her whip, perhaps she obtains the whip sometime during the film, not for use in burglary or a heist but maybe for defensive purpose like maybe she's trapped and the only thing to defend herself is a whip, I think something like that would be a suitable adaption.

[CaptainClown]

How about this
Catwoman is prowling through Gotham, she then stumbles upon some tomb raiders who just got a very important Spanish Cross. In her heart she knows that that item belongs in a museum and steals it. Then great chase ensues, all the way to the monorail system of Gotham. The monorail system will have a circus theme since the circus that Robin is with is in town. Little does she know the monorail is carrying a giant lion and she accidentally falls in that cage so she reaches for the whip...

[Damien Rage]

ok call me crazy (for many reasons)...what about Jaime King?

The other day I was flipping through tv and cought some of Cheaper By The Dozen 2. I see this girl and I think...wow she's got a Michelle Pfeiffer kinda look. (sigh Michelle who I think is the most beautiful woman in the world) So yeah I see this girl and think Hmm...

Now PLEASE keep in mind I have nothing to base this off of other than looks, I saw like 5 minutes of the movie so I can have idea how Jaime's acting is or anything...

Props to Julie, Lee and Eartha but in my heart Michelle to me was is and always will be the perfect Catwoman (the acting, the costume)...sigh

[Pondslider]

How about this
Catwoman is prowling through Gotham, she then stumbles upon some tomb raiders who just got a very important Spanish Cross. In her heart she knows that that item belongs in a museum and steals it. Then great chase ensues, all the way to the monorail system of Gotham. The monorail system will have a circus theme since the circus that Robin is with is in town. Little does she know the monorail is carrying a giant lion and she accidentally falls in that cage so she reaches for the whip...

Also she should be terrified of snakes afterwards.

[Laderlappen]

Havn't seen Emily Blunt in anything but apparently Charlie Wilsons War is pretty good so i might check out her next cheap Tuesday.
She's in like 10 minutes in Charlie Wilsons War. If you wanna check out her acting, you should see The Devil Wears Prada. But if you wanna check out her "hotness", Charlie Wilsons War is the way to go.

[Jokers_Wild]

Also she should be terrified of snakes afterwards.

She should also hit herself on the chin with the whip, so that she has a life-long scar from it...that would be cool.

:indy:

[Sandouras]

Emily Blunt? Oh my god!!! :nono:

Am i the only one that hates that *****y woman who dresses like a cat and plays with batman's emotions just to manipulate her way out of jail? I mean, is there anything more to catwoman?

[FlawlessVictory]

Charlize Theron. End of discussion. Close thread.

:grin:

[batboy99]

If she got a really good dialect coach, I'll be all for Marion Cotillard.
Definetly, shes got the look and the acting

[Bright Knight]

In regards to her whip, perhaps she obtains the whip sometime during the film, not for use in burglary or a heist but maybe for defensive purpose like maybe she's trapped and the only thing to defend herself is a whip, I think something like that would be a suitable adaption.


Catwoman... Cat o' nine tails... Very famous type of whip, it would be easy to explain why a lady who calls herself catwoman would have a cat o nine tails. Well, as easy as it would be to explain why a man goes around dressed as a bat.

Furthermore, what if she was an archeologist, or something, i dunno, a museum curator/expert? Who specialised in egyptology?

Cats were sacred in ancient egypt. Then she goes kinda crazy, or not maybe. Maybe she's egyptian and resents how all her country's artefacts are being kept in foreign musuems, so she sets about robbing museums of their priceless artefacts?

A cat burgular, if you will, who is an egyptologist, and is fascinated by ancient egypt's fixation on cats, where they were held to be sacred, who uses a cat o nine tails whip, cos of the name...

How about that???

[Crook]

How about what, a Catwoman that isn't Selina Kyle? :huh:

[Bright Knight]

How about what, a Catwoman that isn't Selina Kyle? :huh:


There is no definitive version of who Selina Kyle is. however it's considered cannon that she's a cat burgular. So I'm actually staying within cannon.

All I did was suggest a fleshed out back story, of which there are many. There is nothing preculding her from being an egyptologist.

[jmc]

Catwoman... Cat o' nine tails... Very famous type of whip, it would be easy to explain why a lady who calls herself catwoman would have a cat o nine tails. Well, as easy as it would be to explain why a man goes around dressed as a bat.

Furthermore, what if she was an archeologist, or something, i dunno, a museum curator/expert? Who specialised in egyptology?

Cats were sacred in ancient egypt. Then she goes kinda crazy, or not maybe. Maybe she's egyptian and resents how all her country's artefacts are being kept in foreign musuems, so she sets about robbing museums of their priceless artefacts?

A cat burgular, if you will, who is an egyptologist, and is fascinated by ancient egypt's fixation on cats, where they were held to be sacred, who uses a cat o nine tails whip, cos of the name...

How about that???

Who says she would call herself Catwoman? Perhaps she's always referred to as Selina and Catwoman is only a tag given to her by the media or a nickname given to her buy the criminal underworld. And as for the egyptology angle, that is way too left field.

[Bright Knight]

Who says she would call herself Catwoman? Perhaps she's always referred to as Selina and Catwoman is only a tag given to her by the media or a nickname given to her buy the criminal underworld. And as for the egyptology angle, that is way too left field.


No one says she calls herself catwoman. Batman doesn't call himself batman but he fashions himself on bats. Catwoman needn't call herself catwoman but she can fashion herself on cat themed stuff.

Why is egyptology too left of field? It's a commonly know fact that cats were sacred in ancient egypt, the above story gives an intelligent high class woman a motive to go on a burgulary spree throughout museums.

WHy is it too left of field?

[batboy99]

Yes he does, well he did. remeber when he told the thugh ''I'm Batman'' ??

[Bright Knight]

Yes he does, well he did. remeber when he told the thugh ''I'm Batman'' ??


Wasn't that in B89?

And it's also pedantics. I never said she'd call herself catwoman. But ffs, if her character is gonna be called catwoman she's going to have a cat motif, isn't she!?

[regwec]

I think she should call herself Catwoman, and I think that she should choose the cat motif purely because the idea amuses her. For me, much of the charm of the villainous Catwoman is that she coins many of the same trappings as Batman, but for opposite reasons; fun rather than a sense of obligation.

[Bright Knight]

I think she should call herself Catwoman, and I think that she should choose the cat motif purely because the idea amuses her. For me, much of the charm of the villainous Catwoman is that she coins many of the same trappings as Batman, but for opposite reasons; fun rather than a sense of obligation.

Totally. I think the egyptologist thing is a runner though.

[jmc]

I think she should call herself Catwoman, and I think that she should choose the cat motif purely because the idea amuses her. For me, much of the charm of the villainous Catwoman is that she coins many of the same trappings as Batman, but for opposite reasons; fun rather than a sense of obligation.

I think rather she should choose the cat motif because maybe it gives comfort because of her love of cats, perhaps as a sort of lucky charm similar to what some sport people have, ie wearing same shoes, using same equipment etc.

[Bright Knight]

I think rather she should choose the cat motif because maybe it gives comfort because of her love of cats, perhaps as a sort of lucky charm similar to what some sport people have, ie wearing same shoes, using same equipment etc.


You're right. That lucky charm idea is far more intelligent and well thought out than anything I came up with.

JMC FTW!

[batboy99]

Wasn't that in B89?

And it's also pedantics. I never said she'd call herself catwoman. But ffs, if her character is gonna be called catwoman she's going to have a cat motif, isn't she!?
yes and in batman begins too.

Oh excuse me, im sorry, it wasnt a thug, it was when he pulled Falcone out of the car

[Bright Knight]

yes and in batman begins too.

Oh excuse me, im sorry, it wasnt a thug, it was when he pulled Falcone out of the car


That's ok. I appreciate you pointing that out to me.

I'm just a little muddled today, I've lots on my mind.

:(

[batboy99]

:confused:

[Crook]

There is no definitive version of who Selina Kyle is. however it's considered cannon that she's a cat burgular. So I'm actually staying within cannon.

All I did was suggest a fleshed out back story, of which there are many. There is nothing preculding her from being an egyptologist.
I'd say the fact that there has been no indication she is in such a field, would prove contrary. In this case, because it has never been mentioned, it's safe to say it doesn't exist.

[Bright Knight]

I'd say the fact that there has been no indication she is in such a field, would prove contrary. In this case, because it has never been mentioned, it's safe to say it doesn't exist.


There was never any indication in the comics that ducard was actually ras al ghul who had the scarecrow working for him either... But there you go. It was in the film.

I came up with a new idea and you're just angry at me.

Why are you being so horrible and negative to me? I've having such a hard time over heath's death, I'm just coming to terms with it, and BANG, Roy Scheider, my childhood hero dies. This is all while my uncle is in hospital dying, and i come onto this site to take my mind off how horrible everything in the world is, and you people come along and bully me for having a new idea.

I might as well just kill myself.

[Crook]

There was never any indication in the comics that ducard was actually ras al ghul who had the scarecrow working for him either... But there you go. It was in the film.
There's a difference between a lifestyle/occupation and a partnership being formed for a limited time.


I came up with a new idea and you're just angry at me.
I've been calm, where in the world did you get the idea that I was angry?

Why are you being so horrible and negative to me? I've having such a hard time over heath's death, I'm just coming to terms with it, and BANG, Roy Scheider, my childhood hero dies. This is all while my uncle is in hospital dying, and i come onto this site to take my mind off how horrible everything in the world is, and you people come along and bully me for having a new idea.

I might as well just kill myself.
Ok, that came outta nowhere. This is literally my second time talking to you, and I get backlash about me being a bully.

...the hell? :huh:

[AndrewGilkison]

No, it's because everything in my life has being going wrong and I'm losing everyone close to me. And there just doesn't seem to be any hope.

And when I try to pull myself out of this I get knocked back down by people like him who are just so horrible.

I'm on meds and they're just not working.
He's not the reason. It's because there is no more hope.

If you are serious, I want you to understand that there is always hope. Every cloud has it's silver lining. It might take a long time to find one, but you won't find it by killing yourself. You would only be hurting the people in your life who care about you who are still alive.

[Timstuff]

I'd say that Catwoman from Batman Returns would be about a 6, which would mean more emotionally unstable than stable. I'd say that Nolan's Catwoman should be about a 3 or a 4.

[Majik1387]

I'd say in Returns she was more 7-8 by the end than 6.

[Kelly]

Bad form guys, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD FORM....lets get back on topic.

[Majik1387]

Huh?:huh:

And quick question: Why aren't all these Nolan-verse Catwoman threads merged?

[Timstuff]

I dunno, lol.

The one in the "Batman Begins Sequels" forum is more about casting, and this one is more about her character. We have no idea if there's even a mention of her in TDK, but I started this thread before TDK was even in production, so that's why it's still here. I suppose it'll get moved if the movie comes out and there's no mention of Selina in the movie, but until then, I don't see the harm in keeping it around.

[Nepenthes]

Keep them seperate! The other thread is just a casting chant. "This chic for Selina". "Too old". "Looks weird". "No way". "Dumb bimbo". That's all it is. Same with the Poison Ivy thread :csad:. There's a small group of posters that like to do that so it's better they've got their own space for it.

[FlawlessVictory]

Edit

[jmc]

Huh?:huh:

And quick question: Why aren't all these Nolan-verse Catwoman threads merged?

Keep this one for the character, the other can be for the actress. :up:

[Majik1387]

Okay, just wondered.

[Sandouras]

Charlize Theron. End of discussion. Close thread.

:grin:
She is older than Bale. Quite a lot.

Wow, 143 pages on a character that WONT be in TDK and its sequel is years away!

[batboy99]

how old do you think she is? Theron is 32, bales 33...

[Laderlappen]

Yes, the age she has.

And it's not end of discussion. Everybody doesn't agree.

[GoogleMe94]

theron is overrated and not that attractive. same with jolie. they both irritate me.

[FlawlessVictory]

She is older than Bale. Quite a lot.

1 year is a lot? :huh:

Wow, 143 pages on a character that WONT be in TDK and its sequel is years away!

:woot:

[Timstuff]

Not to mention Theron is one year YOUNGER than Bale. :o

[FlawlessVictory]

Not to mention Theron is one year YOUNGER than Bale. :o

:eek: Just checked IMDB and LOL, she is! I thought she was older myself, but not by much.

[mackblack01]

I don't know if she was already mentionned, but Hilary Swank could make a great Catwoman. She's not THAT pretty, but she can fit into Nolan's world easily. I have a feeling that she can play Selina Kyle perfectly!

[Crook]

She's not THAT pretty, but she can fit into Nolan's world easily.
I don't see how that has relevance to casting, or the character.

[Cúchulainn]

theron is overrated and not that attractive. same with jolie. they both irritate me.


Charlize is one of the most attractive women on the planet! Herself and Scarlett johansson are SMOKING!

How about that girl from lost? Whatshername.

[batboy99]

Evangeline Lilly and no

[jmc]

I don't know if she was already mentionned, but Hilary Swank could make a great Catwoman. She's not THAT pretty, but she can fit into Nolan's world easily. I have a feeling that she can play Selina Kyle perfectly!

She may not of played the most glamorous character roles but the girl is still attractive. Regardless, she's still a great actress, never really considered her as the Cat.

[CaptainClown]

ew HIllary Swank...ewww...

[Nepenthes]

Hilary Swank could play Sophia Gigante :D

no, she's a great actor i really like her and she's hot in her own way, but she's not Catwoman. Huntress, yeah maybe

[CaptainClown]

Hilary Swank hot? ewww.

[Majik1387]

I don't think she was ever hot, but she has an odd sense of beauty to her.

[Watson]

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/s/swank/Swank_AG02589088.jpg


http://thetalkinghorse.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mr-ed-gets-the-last-laugh.jpg

Swank for Mr. Ed, in theatres 2009!

[CaptainClown]

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/s/swank/Swank_AG02589088.jpg


http://thetalkinghorse.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mr-ed-gets-the-last-laugh.jpg

Swank for Mr. Ed, in theatres 2009!
QFT!

[Nepenthes]

okay hot is the wrong word. but certainly glamourous and striking

Hillary would ACE both sides of the role, no doubt, but she's not the type people *want* to see as the Catwoman, there's too much dissonance there. We need a modern version of the Catwoman that people already know in their minds, an update on the Newmar/Pfeiffer feline fatale. This is partly where CINO fcked up; Catwoman is an icon and a cultural concept outside of comics and movies and Halle was just so different it didn't tap into what people already identify as being "catwoman".

[Majik1387]

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/s/swank/Swank_AG02589088.jpg
Give her some concealer, and there's no problem; as with all Hollywood beauties.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/airbrushhillary.jpg

[CaptainClown]

If she was in the movie she can't smile.

Look at them teeth rawr!

[Watson]

If she was in the movie she can't smile.

Look at them teeth rawr!

HILARY SWANK HUNGRY!!!!!!!

[jmc]

Some people can be really cruel. :whatever:

[metal666]

I'd take Swank over Theron. Now that i think about I'd pick her over alot of 'traditional' beauties like Angelina or Kate Beckinsale.

[CaptainClown]

I'll take Swank if they put a bag over her head

[MiniBond]

Slight idea after seeing a comic pic of the feline.....


http://www.carla-gugino.info/wallpapers/carla-gugino-01.jpg


http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/031120/164531__sisco_l.jpg

[Nepenthes]

Yeah, if she wasn't already in Watchmen I'd say sign her right now. Other people have noted her near perfection for the role

[JaD]

Slight idea after seeing a comic pic of the feline.....


http://www.carla-gugino.info/wallpapers/carla-gugino-01.jpg


http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/031120/164531__sisco_l.jpg

(:wow:)yea id do her, err no i mean id use her....for catwoman

[Ryudoz]

Carla gets my vote for Selina. Rawr.

[Laderlappen]

Carla Gugino sure is beautiful. And she's a good actress. But I don't think she's good enough. Plus she already did Sin City and Watchmen. And would be 40 when Batman 3 comes out.

[Ryudoz]

Carla Gugino sure is beautiful. And she's a good actress. But I don't think she's good enough. Plus she already did Sin City and Watchmen. And would be 40 when Batman 3 comes out.

I don't think her age would have much to do with it. She's not that much older than Bale at this point, so I think as long as she stayed sexy (highly likely), she could do well. Her track record could suggest she might stray from Comic book movies in the future, but to discount her possibly portraying a role that is nowhere near confirmed to exist in a movie that has yet to be planned, is a stretch. So it's possible that if Selina were in a 3rd movie in this franchise, I think Carla could do well despite these factors.

[MiniBond]

what made me think about Carla....

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8950/scan0001ga7.png

[Cúchulainn]

Some people can be really cruel. :whatever:


We can!?!?!?

Thanks!

[robthorn24]

Here is my pic for Ms. Kyle.

Jodi Lyn O'Keefe

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo2.jpg

She's great on Prison Break. She's got Selina's sexy look down and can play the tough girl/****** as well. What do ya think?

I believe she's got the chops to share the screen with Bale. She's also kind of "under the radar" so she won't draw the attention such as Angelina Jolie (who I also think is perfect for the role).

I would LOVE it if this casting decision was made!

[batboy99]

She woulda made a better WW

[Laderlappen]

Here is my pic for Ms. Kyle.

Jodi Lyn O'Keefe I really despise this chick. And that's not because she's supposed to be unlikeable on PB, but she's a real pain in the ass to watch. We need a great actress for the role. Good isn't enough. But this girl isn't even okay.

[Sandouras]

Here is my pic for Ms. Kyle.

Jodi Lyn O'Keefe

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo2.jpg

She's great on Prison Break. She's got Selina's sexy look down and can play the tough girl/****** as well. What do ya think?

I believe she's got the chops to share the screen with Bale. She's also kind of "under the radar" so she won't draw the attention such as Angelina Jolie (who I also think is perfect for the role).

I would LOVE it if this casting decision was made!
Austin Powers said it best: Its a man baby!

[RonStoppablefan]

Has Catwoman been confirmed in this movie yet? She's an awesome character. If not wonder what movie she will be in...

[Majik1387]

Can we not go to TV actors for the role. Thank you.

[jmc]

^ Any good versatile actor is capable of doing any acting medium.

[robthorn24]

Can we not go to TV actors for the role. Thank you.

Actually an actress is an actress. They act. That's what they do. By your logic we would have never had Bruce Willis in Die Hard because he had appeared in Moonlighting.

And besides... she has been in movies.

[elgato]

Austin Powers said it best: Its a man baby!

LOL!:grin:

[elgato]

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/city_catwomanmanip.png

if she is in TDK... (Don't count on it)

[elgato]

I spent several hours doing this.
What if Catwoman would have been a good movie? (:woot: )
Not really TDK, but

Keri Russell......Catwoman
Christian Bale......Batman
Kristen Stewart.......Holly Robinson
Alex Johnzon........Karon
Tom Wilkinson........Carmine Falcone

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/CATWOMAN_POSTER_ELGATO_00.jpg

[namtaB]

Since Nolan is focusing on realism I think Catwoman should reflect what a real woman looks like. Forget the size 0 anorexic look that perpetuates a false ideal for women. She should be a size 14 big beautiful woman in skin tight black latex. My vote is Camryn Manheim for Catwoman.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/Emmys05/CamrynManh_Grani_5985572_600_273x400.jpg

[Laderlappen]

But skinny women are not unrealistic.

[Mr. Socko]

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Majik1387]

^ Any good versatile actor is capable of doing any acting medium.
Can we not go to TV actors for the role. Thank you.
Actually an actress is an actress. They act. That's what they do. By your logic we would have never had Bruce Willis in Die Hard because he had appeared in Moonlighting.

And besides... she has been in movies.

Let me explain my logic.


No TV actors while their show(s) is(are) still on the air, and not in the rerun sense.

[BatmanFanatic]

Since Nolan is focusing on realism I think Catwoman should reflect what a real woman looks like. Forget the size 0 anorexic look that perpetuates a false ideal for women. She should be a size 14 big beautiful woman in skin tight black latex. My vote is Camryn Manheim for Catwoman.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/Emmys05/CamrynManh_Grani_5985572_600_273x400.jpg

Hmm. Yet, realistically, size 14 women would make poor sneaky catburglars and gymnasts.

I didn't know my body was unrealistic btw... thanks, I feel special now. :woot:

[beyond_death]

Nah I think he's jkz.

I hope.

[Ryudoz]

Nah I think he's jkz.

I hope.

C'mon, Camryn would bring an extra level of sexy to Catwoman, seeing as how she's twice the woman of previous Catwomen.

:up: :up:

[batboy99]

Austin Powers said it best: Its a man baby!
not even close...
she may not be the hottest thing, but she dont look like a man

BTW, if anyone hasnt seen it, heres my revised GIF of Keri Russell as Catwoman
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/kerirussellcatwoman.gif

[The Battousai]

Hmm. Yet, realistically, size 14 women would make poor sneaky catburglars and gymnasts.

I didn't know my body was unrealistic btw... thanks, I feel special now. :woot:

:wow::wow::wow: When did you come back?

[elgato]

My new sketches

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/16-02-2008022218PM.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/16-02-2008021742PM.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/16-02-2008021551PM.jpg

[regwec]

Like it- reminds me of Sienna Guillory. ;)

[Miranda Fox]

Reg and Sienna - a true love story. :woot:

I mentioned these pictures awhile back of Romola Garai so here they are:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/aliasvaughn/63843_Romola_Garai__Unknown_Photosh.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/aliasvaughn/68336_hq002ew3_122_327lo.jpg

Nice gif, batboy! :)

[regwec]

Reg and Sienna - a true love story. :woot:
:csad:

[David Rice]

Here is my pic for Ms. Kyle.

Jodi Lyn O'Keefe

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/robthorn24/jlo2.jpg

She's great on Prison Break. She's got Selina's sexy look down and can play the tough girl/****** as well. What do ya think?

I believe she's got the chops to share the screen with Bale. She's also kind of "under the radar" so she won't draw the attention such as Angelina Jolie (who I also think is perfect for the role).

I would LOVE it if this casting decision was made!

I got to disagree man. She is horrible on that show and she would be a bad Selina IMO.

[Miranda Fox]

:csad:

I meant that in a good way. :(

[David Rice]

I meant that in a good way. :(

It's been a while since I've seen you Fox. How are ya?

[regwec]

Yeah, but we unrequited love causes great pain!

[Miranda Fox]

It's been a while since I've seen you Fox. How are ya?

Fine, thanks. Yourself? :)

[David Rice]

Fine, thanks. Yourself? :)

Cool! I am great! Where have you been? Just hanging?

[Miranda Fox]

Cool! I am great! Where have you been? Just hanging?

Pretty much. :)

[David Rice]

Pretty much. :)

Sweet, glad to see you're posting again. :yay:

[Mr. Socko]

If Nolan presents Catwoman he probably won't use the skin tight leather suit for the character. I imagine he would use a more practical suit(someone had a manip of one somewhere in here), but hey, it could work well.

[Gianakin_]

Something close to the Hush version, perhaps?

[regwec]

Oh no...

[David Rice]

If Nolan presents Catwoman he probably won't use the skin tight leather suit for the character. I imagine he would use a more practical suit(someone had a manip of one somewhere in here), but hey, it could work well.

Yes, I think is was Batboy99

Something close to the Hush version, perhaps?

Yes, please!

[Mr. Socko]

Oh no...
lol:p

Something close to the Hush version, perhaps?

Something similar I could see. But what I see throughout this thread is several people who expect a Catwoman costume just like the comics, which in any such event, isn't happening. In the case of this series, Nolan adapts their looks into something that comes off as more real worldly. Look at the visual differences of Scarecrow, Al Ghul, and Joker compared to their comic counterpart. So through this thinking, I wouldn't expect Catwoman's leather costume and such to be translated precisely as it is from the comics to screen when no one else's costume has been.

Which is why I say I expect to see something that looks more functional, a bit stealthy perhaps.

[theShape]

Honestly, I hope we don't see Selina Kyle or Catwoman in this series of films.

[regwec]

Thanks- we all hope that we do.

[Gianakin_]

Which is why I say I expect to see something that looks more functional, a bit stealthy perhaps.

In all honesty, and I know visuals is half the adaptation to you, I don't want to see her purple-suit version.

[regwec]

Purple, sprayed-on suit, long jet-black hair, thigh-high boots and enormous breasts are clearly the way to go. :D

[theShape]

Thanks- we all hope that we do.

Thanks.

As of late, though, Catwoman is seen more as a joke, especially after the atrocious spinoff film. I think it would be best to keep her off the silver screen for a while and bring her back with another interpretation of the character in another series.

[Gianakin_]

Reg: Oh, I can't say I'm in the least surprised:woot:

[Gianakin_]

As of late, though, Catwoman is seen more as a joke, especially after the atrocious spinoff film. I think it would be best to keep her off the silver screen for a while and bring her back with another interpretation of the character in another series.

Batman was a joke until 2005, too. By the time BB3 arrives, it will most likely be 2011. That's 10 years after Catwoman.

[theShape]

Batman was a joke until 2005, too. By the time BB3 arrives, it will most likely be 2011. That's 10 years after Catwoman.

Fair enough. What do you think Catwoman can bring to this franchise that is fresh and exciting?

[regwec]

Catwoman has had a great 24 months in comic books. It would be nice to think that that could be built on. Of course Halle Berry's atrocious film was a setback, but Catwoman remains a massive figure of popculture reference- possibly even more so than Wonderwoman. She is essentially the acceptable, mainstream face of the dominatrix/fetishistic fantasy to a lot of people.

[theShape]

Catwoman has had a great 24 months in comic books. It would be nice to think that that could be built on. Of course Halle Berry's atrocious film was a setback, but Catwoman remains a massive figure of popculture reference- possibly even more so than Wonderwoman. She is essentially the acceptable, mainstream face of the dominatrix/fetishistic fantasy to a lot of people.

So then I extend the question in my previous post to you, as well.

[regwec]

Well, the simple answer is a significant female dynamic that permeated the structure of the whole film and the development of the other characters. Dawes was used to flesh out the more tender aspect of Bruce Wayne's character to some extent; it would be nice to see what someone like Selina could bring out of him.

[Gianakin_]

Fair enough. What do you think Catwoman can bring to this franchise that is fresh and exciting?

1.A very good opportunity to build Batman's identity crisis. This can be done as (speculating now) having Bruce choose the woman he wants to hit it with. Rachel (who appeals to Bruce) or Catwoman (who appeals to Batman)?
2.The best love interest of Batman. Ever (to me). Thus, hopefully, another fantastic love story between them.
3.Very nice parallels between Batman and Catwoman, morally speaking. Of course, they can play with the reasons they wear costumes etc etc.

[theShape]

1.A very good opportunity to build Batman's identity crisis. This can be done as (speculating now) having Bruce choose the woman he wants to hit it with. Rachel (who appeals to Bruce) or Catwoman (who appeals to Batman)?
2.The best love interest of Batman. Ever (to me). Thus, hopefully, another fantastic love story between them.
3.Very nice parallels between Batman and Catwoman, morally speaking. Of course, they can play with the reasons they wear costumes etc etc.

All the things you've mentioned were done in Batman Returns.

At least with the Joker in TDK we are getting a different approach to the character than we got before. But the Bruce/Batman and Selina/Catwoman love story has been told. To me, Catwoman just wouldn't be that interesting for the next film. Sure, they can give her a hot new costume, make her a jewel thief, change her motives around, but it won't be that successful.

[Gianakin_]

All the things you've mentioned were done in Batman Returns.

At least with the Joker in TDK we are getting a different approach to the character than we got before. But the Bruce/Batman and Selina/Catwoman love story has been told. To me, Catwoman just wouldn't be that interesting for the next film. Sure, they can give her a hot new costume, make her a jewel thief, change her motives around, but it won't be that successful.

I disagree with this.

I explained the basics of what she'd do in BB3. The thing is, the basics with Joker in TDK are similar to B89 (and the comics). So, it is essential to keep that stuff.
You change that, then appearances won't matter at all, the source material connection is gone completely.

Plus, you can have those 3 things (that you say were also touched upon in BR) presented in another way. Like the TDK Joker as opposed to B89 Joker.
Once the characters have been changed (and they have, as of 2005), then the dynamics change.

[David Rice]

Honestly, I hope we don't see Selina Kyle or Catwoman in this series of films.

Great, then kindly leave this thread! :woot:

Thanks- we all hope that we do.

Yep! You tell him! :woot:

[David Rice]

All the things you've mentioned were done in Batman Returns.

At least with the Joker in TDK we are getting a different approach to the character than we got before. But the Bruce/Batman and Selina/Catwoman love story has been told. To me, Catwoman just wouldn't be that interesting for the next film. Sure, they can give her a hot new costume, make her a jewel thief, change her motives around, but it won't be that successful.

Do you really think that Nolan will not take a different approach than the one in Batman Returns? :whatever:

[theShape]

I disagree with this.

I explained the basics of what she'd do in BB3. The thing is, the basics with Joker in TDK are similar to B89 (and the comics). So, it is essential to keep that stuff.
You change that, then appearances won't matter at all, the source material connection is gone completely.

Plus, you can have those 3 things (that you say were also touched upon in BR) presented in another way. Like the TDK Joker as opposed to B89 Joker.
Once the characters have been changed (and they have, as of 2005), then the dynamics change.

While TDK Joker is the same Joker at heart, he is completely different from the '89 version at the same time, and not only with his appearance. Gone is the acid bath origin, and it's been replaced with a more mysterious Joker. Also, in '89, you had the parallels of Batman and the Joker, because Napier killed Bruce's parents, and there was that whole revenge aspect. So obviously, we are not going to see the same things dwelled upon in TDK as we saw in '89.

The themes you mentioned are the same ones that we saw in Batman Returns with Catwoman. And yes, I know Nolan would find a way to change the character and ground her in reality in what not, but I'm not so sure that it would be compelling to watch.

[Gianakin_]

While TDK Joker is the same Joker at heart, he is completely different from the '89 version at the same time, and not only with his appearance. Gone is the acid bath origin, and it's been replaced with a more mysterious Joker. Also, in '89, you had the parallels of Batman and the Joker, because Napier killed Bruce's parents, and there was that whole revenge aspect. So obviously, we are not going to see the same things dwelled upon in TDK as we saw in '89.

My point is, though, that the basics between Bats and Joker haven't changed. You're talking the other kind of changes, which I acknowledged before. The basics are seemingly there.

1.He is insane, or is he?
2.He drives Batman to the edge.
3.He is chaos, while Batman is order.

These are the same in the comics, in B89 and from what I've seen so far, in TDK. That's what I'm talking about when I say Catwoman has to offer stuff for BB3. Like you say in the next paragraph, themes. And themes should stay similar, as they are the truest connections to the source material, to me.

And btw, the Joker killing Bruce's parents deal, I disagree that it sets a parallel. I believe they put it only for revenge and personal connection (as you mentioned). But no parallels come out of this, imo.

The themes you mentioned are the same ones that we saw in Batman Returns with Catwoman. And yes, I know Nolan would find a way to change the character and ground her in reality in what not, but I'm not so sure that it would be compelling to watch.

That's a matter of opinion and I can only say: Fair enough.

[batboy99]

not even close...
she may not be the hottest thing, but she dont look like a man

BTW, if anyone hasnt seen it, heres my revised GIF of Keri Russell as Catwoman
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/kerirussellcatwoman.gifBump?:(

[Gianakin_]

It's a good gif. She fits visually in this clip.