Catwoman / Selina Kyle thread

[Alfie Luke]

^ Honestly, I'm somewhat against the idea of using actors / actresses that have done 'similar' roles in other movies. I mean, some people once proposed Carie-Anne Moss for Catwoman, because she had the all-leather suit in the Matrix... I mean, come on now!

I know that sometimes, it shows certain actors / actresses actually have what it takes to pull of a certain kind of role when we see them do something similar in another movie, but I'm all for variations. If we're really looking for GOOD actors / actresses to play in our favorite movies, we should be looking for real talent, which implies the ability to be almost 'chameleon' like when it comes to types of roles.

... thank you for your time!

[Timstuff]

Maybe we should be looking outside the pool of actresses who have been in action roles? :confused:

Has anyone been dragged into watching any chick flicks or actionless dramas lately? Have you seen any actresses in them who look like they'd make a good Catwoman? Maybe our problem is that we're looking only at actresses from the movies that us action movie types typically watch. There might be a non-action movie actress out there who none of us have noticed though.

[antmanx68]

Good talent doesnt neccessarily mean that they are chameleon like in the parts they play. Looking outside the box is a good idea, but for Jolie (seems to be a fan favorite) no one is choosing her because she was already Lara Croft, she's just awesome. She's beautiful, has a good look for Selina Kyle and she's a great actress.

[Timstuff]

Kate Beckinsale, Charlize Theron, and Angelina Jolie would all be fine as Catwoman. But I would like to keep an open mind to other actresses who might have been overlooked because we didn't see them in any action flicks.

[Timstuff]

How tall is Rachel McAdams? With the right makeup and hair, she might be OK as Selina. I'd probably at least give her an audition.

[Two-Face]

How tall is Rachel McAdams? With the right makeup and hair, she might be OK as Selina. I'd probably at least give her an audition.


You know today i was thinking about that and saw the Red Eye banner while I waiting for a bus I saw the name Cillian Murphy next to it I saw Rachel McAdams credit name I thought she can be good Catwoman or Talia.

[Timstuff]

If Catwoman is in the trilogy, what they really need is a good rooftop chase scene. That is something that was sorely missing from Batman Returns, and it's absence was noticable, for me at least. Batman chasing Catwoman around on rooftops has always been an essential aspect of their relationship, almost like some bizzare form of foreplay. Now they finally have a chance to get it right and have a chase that lives up to those of the great comic classics and the Paul Dini and Bruce Timm cartoons. :up:

[regwec]

I agree entirely. It needs to be better than the rooftop chase in "Crouching Tiger", but Batman's cape-chute may allow some similar sense of walking on air.

[The Chairman]

Cameron Diaz is my top choice. Good actress, kicks butt, hot.http://oseb79.free.fr/images/Stars/cameron%20diaz%2002.jpg

If not her, then definitely McAdams.

[regwec]

Diaz is a good actress? My friend, you are far, far too forgiving.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Rachel Mcadams!

[The Chairman]

Diaz is a good actress? My friend, you are far, far too forgiving.

She's not the next Katherine Hepburn, but compared to some of the other actresses of today, Diaz isn't that bad.

By the way, in case anyone is interested I came up with my idea for a Bats/Cats movie, I based it off an old Hitchcock movie. If anyone would like to hear it I'll post it.

[Two-Face]

Cameron Diaz would be great as Harley Quinn

[The Chairman]

Cameron Diaz would be great as Harley Quinn

I'm not sure about Cameron as Harley. Brittany Murphy or Reese Witherspoon would be perfect though.

[The Chairman]

And in case anyone wants to hear it, here's my idea for a Bats/Cats film, inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's 1964 movie Marnie.

Here it is:

Selina Kyle grew up on the poor side of town in the streets. She becomes a theif early on in life. Like Batman, she comes up with a symbol. A cat. She becomes a jewel theif who cashes in on the goods and uses the money to move up in life. She eventually becomes a wealthy socialite, and she meets Bruce Wayne at a party. The two become smitten with each other, and they become a couple. By this point, Selina is a compulsive theif. She even steals from Wayne Enterprises, which results in a showdown with Batman, who becomes obsessed wit her. Meanwhile, Bruce is becoming suspicious of Selina, thinking she may be hiding something from him. He discovers the truth, which tears him apart bewtween doing what is right and forsaking it for love. It's a little hazy from here, but I think it gives a good general outlook.

[regwec]

Yeah, the traditional approach works really well. No point "fixing" something that isn't broke.

[Two-Face]

And in case anyone wants to hear it, here's my idea for a Bats/Cats film, inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's 1964 movie Marnie.

Here it is:

Selina Kyle grew up on the poor side of town in the streets. She becomes a theif early on in life. Like Batman, she comes up with a symbol. A cat. She becomes a jewel theif who cashes in on the goods and uses the money to move up in life. She eventually becomes a wealthy socialite, and she meets Bruce Wayne at a party. The two become smitten with each other, and they become a couple. By this point, Selina is a compulsive theif. She even steals from Wayne Enterprises, which results in a showdown with Batman, who becomes obsessed wit her. Meanwhile, Bruce is becoming suspicious of Selina, thinking she may be hiding something from him. He discovers the truth, which tears him apart bewtween doing what is right and forsaking it for love. It's a little hazy from here, but I think it gives a good general outlook.


If Nolan chooses Selina Kyle, this is the way they do it no supernatural powers.

[Jolie_Desastre]

you know i never thought of rachel mcadams. but if you give her the right look for the part she could probably pull it off. great actress too. but my top choice ofcourse is jolie. and diaz may be a good Quinn

[The Chairman]

If Nolan chooses Selina Kyle, this is the way they do it no supernatural powers.

Glad to know you like it. Maybe I'll write a script on it.

[DarkKnightJRK]

I never understood Jolie as Catwoman. Sure she's hot, but she's been at the very most average in the movies she's been in.

Besides, it's probably a good idea to find someone who's a little more below the radar, a girl who's not well known to the public, gifted as an actor, and has the components nessesary for the role. A female equivilant of Bale, if you will.

[Two-Face]

Glad to know you like it. Maybe I'll write a script on it.

Yeah I read it, if you wrote a script and your story is the way nolan should introduce Selina Kyle.

[Timstuff]

Besides, it's probably a good idea to find someone who's a little more below the radar, a girl who's not well known to the public, gifted as an actor, and has the components nessesary for the role. A female equivilant of Bale, if you will.

Yeah, I've felt this way too. With Bale, he was the kind of guy that got alot of people saying "Wow, who is this guy? Why haven't I seen him in any movies before?" Basically, he seemed like an A-List star even though many people had no-clue who he was. We need someone like that, only with the XX chromisome instead of XY. It might be Kate Beckinsale, it might be Rachel McAdams, or it might be someone who hasn't even been mentioned here yet. But it'll be Nolan's job to find the right lady for the part, and they'll have to give a very good screentest with Bale.

[The Chairman]

Yeah I read it, if you wrote a script and your story is the way nolan should introduce Selina Kyle.

I started writing it. Here's some of what I got?

BATMAN: INFATUATION



1: BAT LOGO engulfs the screen. We hold on it for a few seconds, until a horde of bats pop out and swarm the screen. We cut to a seedy alleyway in Gotham. We hear footsteps. We pan over to reveal a pair of black shoes. We pan upward to reveal a woman carrying a whip, wearing a skin tight leather outfit. She is walking very catlike. We cut to her climbing the wall of a building. She reaches the top, then slips a little, holding on tightly, and climbs onto the roof. She peers through the skylight. We don’t see what she, but we see the expression on her face. It’s a look of intense satisfaction. We cut to the interior of the building, a museum. We see a rope fall through the ceiling, then cut to her climbing down it. We then cut to a shot of lasers guarding a large jewel. We cut to the woman slinkily crawling beneath them. She goes to the jewel and removes the glass case around it. She picks it up.



CATWOMAN

(slowly, purring, holding down the “r” sound)

Purr-fect



(An alarm goes off. We hear guards in the background. The expression on Selina’s face changes, realizes she has to leave fast).



2: Outside the museum. Police are gathered outside, surveying the scene. We see Gordon and Batman walking together.



BATMAN

Commissioner. What’s the situation?



GORDON

Robbery. A rare African Jewel.



BATMAN

Another cat attack?



BATMAN

Any leads?



GORDON

We’ve talked to a few witnesses. Say they saw this figure, wearing a skin tight outfit and carrying a whip, sort of like a cat.



BATMAN

A cat?



GORDON

Yeah, a cat.



BATMAN

I’ll look into it.

I hope you guys like it so far. I was wondering if I should post it here or make a thread about it.

[DarkKnightJRK]

Yeah, I've felt this way too. With Bale, he was the kind of guy that got alot of people saying "Wow, who is this guy? Why haven't I seen him in any movies before?" Basically, he seemed like an A-List star even though many people had no-clue who he was. We need someone like that, only with the XX chromisome instead of XY. It might be Kate Beckinsale, it might be Rachel McAdams, or it might be someone who hasn't even been mentioned here yet. But it'll be Nolan's job to find the right lady for the part, and they'll have to give a very good screentest with Bale.

I don't reconize that name. Pic and movies she's been in, please?

[Two-Face]

I like it, you could have Batman chasing Catwoman on the rooftop "stop" allong them lines.

[Timstuff]

I don't reconize that name. Pic and movies she's been in, please?

She's done mostly chick flicks which is why she hasn't made it onto many "Geek lists" yet (as far as I know she hasn't had any action roles yet). But she was the star of the recent horror flick "Red Eye" (which oddly enough stars Cillian Murphy aka "Scarecrow" from Batman Begins). She's not my top pick for Selina, but I'm more than definately willing to give her a chance.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/redeye250.jpg

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/movies/40172/40172_bp.jpg

[The Chairman]

I don't reconize that name. Pic and movies she's been in, please?

Rachel McAdams has been in The Hot Chick, Mean Girls, The Notebook, Wedding Crashers and Red Eye. She is fast becoming, if not already, one of the best actresses in Hollywood today. Like Bale, she isn't extremely famous, but she nails every part she takes.

Here are a few pics:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/wedding_crashers/rachel_mcadams/crasherprek.jpg
http://teemix.aufeminin.com/imworld2/stars/fan/D20050723/1983_812080024_rachel_mcadams_09_H000558_L.jpg
http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos61/rachel-mcadams-01.jpg
http://cache.eonline.com/Features/Features/Heatwave2004/SummerSizzlers/Images/mcadams.jpg

[DarkKnightJRK]

That was the girl who had her body switched with Rob Schinder in the Hot Chick, right? Her and Anna Faris were the only saving grace of that POS.

I'm not sure if I could see her as Catwoman, but I'd be willing to give her a shot. :up:

[Timstuff]

I've posted my backstory for Selina before, but since then I've had some more ideas for how to streamline it and make it a little more effective. Obviousely there would not be enough screentime to show all this happening on film in realtime without turning it into "Catwoman: The real movie", but it could easily be touched upon during conversations in the film, as well as a flashback or two (hopefully of the short and effective variety). It's really long, but like I said it's all background details, and alot of it probably would only have to show up in companion books and whatnot. But please read on, because I poured alot of work into it! :)

Selina Kyle is a teenage girl living with her kid sister Maggie, and her mother. The family is goign through some serious money problems because of the depression, but Selina still manages to keep an excellent acedemic record, and she is also the head of her school's gymnastics team, despite worries that her height could get in the way. Unfortunately, as her mother's financial problems worsen, and her mental depression becomes more severe, she takes her own life with an overdose of sleeping pills, leaving Selina and Maggie all alone.

Selina and Maggie's landlord ends up kicking them out of their mother's apartment because they can't pay the rent, so they take refuge in an abandoned house in the narrows. They soon find that they are not alone though, as the house is populated by at least half a dozen homeless cats. Despite being strays, the cats are very friendly to the girls, and they all comfort eachother during the cold rainy nights.

however Selina needs to get money if they want to eat. So she takes up burglary, at first committing only petty theft, but as she gains experience she builds her way up to jewelry and cash boxes. Things are finally looking up for Selina and Maggie. Selina has enough money to keep food on the table, as well as help feed their cat friends. Selina only needs one more good score, and she'll finally be able to get them out of the narrows and into a decent apartment.

Unfortunately, her next big score comes in the form of Carmine "The Roman" Falcone. Although Selina knows the risk is extremely high, her self-confidence and love of adrenaline get the better of her common sense, and using her gymnastic skills and thieving experience, she attempts to break into Falcone's home and find something valueable to steal. Unfortunately, on her way out she is caught. She is apprehended by his thugs, and Falcone then procedes to pull the ski-mask off of her head. Falcone makes a sinister remark and laughs, but using some clever moves Selina escapes her captors and gets out of Falcone's home and into the streets. "Don't worry boys, I know who she is. Next time she'll know why no-one screws The Roman without getting screwed worse. Not even my bastard kids."

Selina runs through the narrows trying her best not to be seen. She's coming close to where her and Maggie's makeshift home is, but as she looks to the skyline, she sees an orange glow and smoke. Her heart races while her feet carry her, fearing for the worst. Sure enough, her home is burning, and she rushes inside to find Maggie. Dodging the flames and falling timber, she finds Maggie tied to a chair. Her face is bruised, and she seems to have some cuts on her. "Selina..." she moans as her older sister enters the room. Selina cuts the ropes as quickly as she can, and carries her sister out of the house, just narrowly missing being crushed by a pile of burning logs. Once outside, Selina holds her injured sister close as she watches the the roaring flames, the sounds of which are offset only by the whale of approaching firetruck sirens, and the desperate cries of Selina and Maggie's trapped cats. A tear rolls down Selina's face as all of it burns to the ground.

After the initial police reports are finished (with Selina obviousely lying about her burglary), Selina is placed in a run-down and over-crowded youth center, which is run by none other than Dr. Leslie Thompkins. Leslie tries to help Selina with councelling, and while Selina greatly admires her kindness and wisdom, eventually she makes up her mind to leave the youth center, and find herself. She retrieves her small cash pot, which she was very careful in hiding, and she then heads to Europe.

13 years later, she returns to Gotham City as a wealthy international socialite, with a background that's been conviniently re-written by paying up in the right places. Many people from Gotham's high-society admire her for her beauty, wit, and generosity to charities, but what they do not know is that during her time in Europe, she became the apprentice to multiple retired catburglars. She also trained under a former kick-boxing champion, and finally assumed the alter-ego of Catwoman, a master catburglar whose existance has yet to be discovered.

From her position of high society in Gotham, Selina is working with Dr. Thompkins to improve and expand Gotham's relief efforts. Her pet project is the youth center near the narrows where she briefly stayed, as well as Gotham's animal shelters. However, along with her noble efforts to assist Gotham's needy, her lifestyle as Catwoman is one of thrill seeking and great heists.

She would be a bit of a mystery for the audience. Is she a selfish wealth-seeking thief who is charitable to justify herself, or is she really a kind and charitable woman with questionable tactics, and a taste for luxury? Whatever the case, she certainly doesn't show remorse for hurting Gotham's fat-cats in the back pocket whenever she gets the chance. And, she still has some major dad-issues to resolve with one in particular...

[CASHMERE]

Rachel McAdams is an awesome actress. She is hollywood's "IT" at the moment. She'd be GOOD as Selina Kyle if not There's always Cameron Diaz.

[Timstuff]

Did anyone bother reading that long-winded backstory I wrote? Maybe I should have trimmed it down a little... :(

[Muze]

i like Rachel McAdams but she's not very athletic looking; sleek i mean. to wear that skin tight leather, you sort of need to have that Kate Beckinsale-body. Rachel reminds me more of the 'damsel-in-distress/clueless love interest' type. i think she actually would have made a better assistant DA than Katie Holmes. heck, her name's even Rachel. and screw Cameron Durr-az.

[DorkyFresh]

i like Rachel McAdams but she's not very athletic looking; sleek i mean. to wear that skin tight leather, you sort of need to have that Kate Beckinsale-body. Rachel reminds me more of the 'damsel-in-distress/clueless love interest' type. i think she actually would have made a better assistant DA than Katie Holmes. heck, her name's even Rachel.
i 2nd that...

...rachel mcadams doesn't have the uber sexy factor. she looks like she'd be a great girlfriend, but she doesn't look like the type of girl that would make my salivary glands work overtime like say....jolie, beckinsale, or theron do and that's something that Catwoman NEEDS to look like.

and screw Cameron Durr-az.
i 2nd, 3rd, AND 4th that!

[SUPERSEBAS]

[QUOTE=ANTHONYNASTI]Rachel McAdams has been in The Hot Chick, Mean Girls

Cat woman is not just a beautiful girl, must be exotic to! she have to be owner of a rare beauity!

[Cats]

She retrieves her small cash pot, which she was very careful in hiding, and she then heads to Europe.

13 years later, she returns to Gotham City as a wealthy international socialite, with a background that's been conviniently re-written by paying up in the right places. Many people from Gotham's high-society admire her for her beauty, wit, and generosity to charities, but what they do not know is that during her time in Europe, she became the apprentice to multiple retired catburglars. She also trained under a former kick-boxing champion, and finally assumed the alter-ego of Catwoman, a master catburglar whose existance has yet to be discovered.
Sounds okay, except that this portion (leaving Gotham, getting trained overseas and returning a masked avenger) gets too similar to Batman's.

To be honest, I've always seen her as a tragic young orphan - mother dies of abuse and father dies of alcohol and drugs. She's put in an orphanage down in crime alley where she's subject to a cruel headmistress. But being too headstrong, she won't take being bullied. So she sneaks away and takes to the streets, living in dark alleyways in cardboard boxes and off scraps. Eventually she decides to resort to pickpocketing, and gets so good at it, it becomes her way of life. When she catches a glimpse of Batman fighting the evil, she decides that she will be like him, righting the wrong in her own way. She has sympathy for those in her plight, growing up in the same environment. And while Batman whose sense of moral right and wrong are more defined, Selina only sees rich vs poor, she believes all rich are corrupt, and she decides to turn into a female Robin Hood, stealing from the rich to give to the poor, and also in turn to profit. The police aren't able to capture her and soon she's coined the woman cat burglar, and eventually plain Catwoman. She takes a fancy to the name the media gave to her and gets into character by adding the two cat ears.

[TheSpyAssassin]

The problem i think with choosing a Catwoman for the new movies(that is if they want to bring her in) is the fact that the guys making the movie have said they want to choose an actress who wont empower screen prescence over Christian Bale. For instance that was the entire reason for them to get rid of Katie Holmes. They thought the crowd was way too interested in seeing Holmes cuz of her affiar with Cruise. So sadly Angelina might be off that list becuase the media is all over her all the time. But if anything ill fight for Angelina to be catwoman.

[regwec]

Could we please stop posting images where an actresses eye or shoulder takes up my entire screen?

[CASHMERE]

i like Rachel McAdams but she's not very athletic looking; sleek i mean. to wear that skin tight leather, you sort of need to have that Kate Beckinsale-body. Rachel reminds me more of the 'damsel-in-distress/clueless love interest' type. i think she actually would have made a better assistant DA than Katie Holmes. heck, her name's even Rachel. and screw Cameron Durr-az.

I agree with you with McAdams playing Rachel Dawz(sp?) she's has range and is really a great actress, well atleast she's getting there quickly.....but the whole Cameron Diaz thing "WOW" you handled that well its sad really.

[The Chairman]

The problem i think with choosing a Catwoman for the new movies(that is if they want to bring her in) is the fact that the guys making the movie have said they want to choose an actress who wont empower screen prescence over Christian Bale. For instance that was the entire reason for them to get rid of Katie Holmes. They thought the crowd was way too interested in seeing Holmes cuz of her affiar with Cruise. So sadly Angelina might be off that list becuase the media is all over her all the time. But if anything ill fight for Angelina to be catwoman.

If Holmes had never hooked up with Cruise, than this wouldn't be an issue. Holmes was never exacly a media darling until she started going out with Cruise. As for Jolie, I've always hated her and her big lips, long before she started up with Pitt. She was never that attractive that all to me. And I'm a 14 year old boy. Most kids my age worship Jolie. I hate her. I find the older beauty of Michelle Pfeiffer (IMO the second hottest woman of all time), Kim Basinger and Nicole Kidman, the three hottest Bat-babes, much more appealing than Jolie.

[Jolie_Desastre]

yup more ppl liked holmes and her in the movie until she started with cruise. now they are all like she did soo bad and is not hot. geez.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

If Holmes had never hooked up with Cruise, than this wouldn't be an issue. Holmes was never exacly a media darling until she started going out with Cruise. As for Jolie, I've always hated her and her big lips, long before she started up with Pitt. She was never that attractive that all to me. And I'm a 14 year old boy. Most kids my age worship Jolie. I hate her. I find the older beauty of Michelle Pfeiffer (IMO the second hottest woman of all time), Kim Basinger and Nicole Kidman, the three hottest Bat-babes, much more appealing than Jolie.Hopefully you will grow out of your surrogate "mammy" fetish and learn to appreciate a true beautifull woman in her prime such as Jolie.

I'm joking of course. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

She's done mostly chick flicks which is why she hasn't made it onto many "Geek lists" yet (as far as I know she hasn't had any action roles yet). But she was the star of the recent horror flick "Red Eye" (which oddly enough stars Cillian Murphy aka "Scarecrow" from Batman Begins). She's not my top pick for Selina, but I'm more than definately willing to give her a chance.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/redeye250.jpg

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/movies/40172/40172_bp.jpgI like this girl alot but I don't think that she's quite right for Selina. Would have (along with countless others) made a better choice for Lois then Bosworth.

[CASHMERE]

On second thought I am all for Diane Kruger(Troy, National Treasure) as Selina Kyle. She's sexy and beautiful. She's a decent actress, she's not virtually an unknown and she wouldn't over-power Bale with her megawatt starpower like Cameron Diaz or Angelina Jolie might but she wouldn't be drowned either.


http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/imworld2/stars/fan/D20050120/1802_403111755_diane_H180420_L.jpg

http://www.svetovecelebrity.com/kruger/images/006.jpg

[elorenishii386]

I like rachel mcadams...but im still rooting for angelina jolie.
from day one i've always known she could be catwoman.
I also think Kate Bekinsale is a close second. I loved underworld and she would look great in a skin tight leather body suit :)

[diabolik]

It MUST be Jolie.

Catwoman/Selina needs to be an incredibly strong personality. Someone who can go tow to tow with Batman. And just like Bale...you need an actor with an edge.

Joile can smile and rasie an eyebrow, and instantly shes Selina. You need an actress that makes you belive shes crazy enough to do what she does....just like you belive in Bale.

Plus you need sex....and Jolie is sex incarnate......yeah...there are other women just as hot....but Jolie has that something that makes your eyes bug out of your head.

Chemistry.....Imagine Bale and Jolie in a scene....not a crazy action thing....but a conversation.....two actors that can pull off crazy like no other....

Its Jolie...Gotta be

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

look at that face ! lol.....Thats Selina....thats the attitude.... Selina = Jolie.

[Two-Face]

It MUST be Jolie.

Catwoman/Selina needs to be an incredibly strong personality. Someone who can go tow to tow with Batman. And just like Bale...you need an actor with an edge.

Joile can smile and rasie an eyebrow, and instantly shes Selina. You need an actress that makes you belive shes crazy enough to do what she does....just like you belive in Bale.

Plus you need sex....and Jolie is sex incarnate......yeah...there are other women just as hot....but Jolie has that something that makes your eyes bug out of your head.

Chemistry.....Imagine Bale and Jolie in a scene....not a crazy action thing....but a conversation.....two actors that can pull off crazy like no other....

Its Jolie...Gotta be

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

look at that face ! lol.....Thats Selina....thats the attitude.... Selina = Jolie.

Well said :up:

[Jolie_Desastre]

It MUST be Jolie.

Catwoman/Selina needs to be an incredibly strong personality. Someone who can go tow to tow with Batman. And just like Bale...you need an actor with an edge.

Joile can smile and rasie an eyebrow, and instantly shes Selina. You need an actress that makes you belive shes crazy enough to do what she does....just like you belive in Bale.

Plus you need sex....and Jolie is sex incarnate......yeah...there are other women just as hot....but Jolie has that something that makes your eyes bug out of your head.

Chemistry.....Imagine Bale and Jolie in a scene....not a crazy action thing....but a conversation.....two actors that can pull off crazy like no other....

Its Jolie...Gotta be

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

look at that face ! lol.....Thats Selina....thats the attitude.... Selina = Jolie.

you couldn't have put it together better :up:

[regwec]

How much would each of us here pay for that vest?

[elorenishii386]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg
This is why she'd be the perfect Catwoman!!!!

[Jolie_Desastre]

she has the look. the attitude. the talent. oh man would i love to see her share the screen with bale.

[Two-Face]

she has the look. the attitude. the talent. oh man would i love to see her share the screen with bale.

I hope WB at least consider Angelina Jolie if Nolan choose to use Selina Kyle.

[The Chairman]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

If this woman plays Catwoman, I will never watch another Batman movie ever again. First of all, I can't believe you people think Jolie will make the best Catwoman ever. Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me. I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive. I'd be sick to my stomach if the old fashioned, elegant beauty of Michelle was replaced by this woman who has about as much elegance as a bathroom as a state prison. And finally, Jolie is a horrible actress. Forget the fact that she has an Oscar. I've heard from various sources that Girl, Interrupted is a horrible movie.

The bottom line:


I HATE ANGELINA JOLIE!

[Two-Face]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

If this woman plays Catwoman, I will never watch another Batman movie ever again. First of all, I can't believe you people think Jolie will make the best Catwoman ever. Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me. I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive. I'd be sick to my stomach if the old fashioned, elegant beauty of Michelle was replaced by this woman who has about as much elegance as a bathroom as a state prison. And finally, Jolie is a horrible actress. Forget the fact that she has an Oscar. I've heard from various sources that Girl, Interrupted is a horrible movie.

The bottom line:


I HATE ANGELINA JOLIE!


You are lying that "you never watch Batman movie because Jolie plays in a Batman movie" :rolleyes: grow up we all know you will see it no matter what if Jolie plays or not.

[The Chairman]

You are lying that "you never watch Batman movie because Jolie plays in a Batman movie" :rolleyes: grow up we all know you will see it no matter what if Jolie plays or not.

I really have nothing to worry about. Nolan is smart. He will not cast Jolie. I'll bet you on that. Heck, I'm willing to bet that Catwoman won't even appear in this series of films.

[regwec]

Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me.
You're living in the past.
I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive.
...and you're gay.

[DorkyFresh]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

If this woman plays Catwoman, I will never watch another Batman movie ever again. First of all, I can't believe you people think Jolie will make the best Catwoman ever. Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me. I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive. I'd be sick to my stomach if the old fashioned, elegant beauty of Michelle was replaced by this woman who has about as much elegance as a bathroom as a state prison. And finally, Jolie is a horrible actress. Forget the fact that she has an Oscar. I've heard from various sources that Girl, Interrupted is a horrible movie.

The bottom line:


I HATE ANGELINA JOLIE!


















.................BWAAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!!!!! OMG!!! that's the funniest post i've EVER read!!! WOOOO!!! you sure are a comedian. you almost got me! you almost had me fooled there for a second, i thought you were serious! man! that's a good one!!!!

[Two-Face]

I really have nothing to worry about. Nolan is smart. He will not cast Jolie. I'll bet you on that. Heck, I'm willing to bet that Catwoman won't even appear in this series of films.


Are you a boardmember of WB or something?? we don't know what future might bring, you've might be right or wrong, if they choose to use Selina Kyle Jolie least has to be considered by WB and if they choose someone else I'll still go see it I'm Batman fan. This is like when fans heard Katie Holmes signed to play in Batman Begins some of the fans didn't want to go see Begins because of her but Holmes being in the movie didn't stop me to see on big screen more then once.

[The Chairman]

Let me respond to a few people's respones:

Quote - Two-Face

"Are you a boardmember of WB or something?? we don't know what future might bring, you've might be right or wrong, if they choose to use Selina Kyle Jolie least has to be considered by WB and if they choose someone else I'll still go see it I'm Batman fan. This is like when fans heard Katie Holmes signed to play in Batman Begins some of the fans didn't want to go see Begins because of her but Holmes being in the movie didn't stop me to see on big screen more then once".

No, I'm not a board member, but Nolan and Goyer already stated what villians they were going to use and Catwoman was not one of them.

Quote - regwec

"You're living in the past and you're gay"

That hurts my feelings. No really it does. Regwec, I've never liked you, and now I hate you.

Guys, I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I don't like Jolie. Don't bash me for it. You two should grow up.

[StorminNorman]

Let me respond to a few people's respones:

Quote - Two-Face

"Are you a boardmember of WB or something?? we don't know what future might bring, you've might be right or wrong, if they choose to use Selina Kyle Jolie least has to be considered by WB and if they choose someone else I'll still go see it I'm Batman fan. This is like when fans heard Katie Holmes signed to play in Batman Begins some of the fans didn't want to go see Begins because of her but Holmes being in the movie didn't stop me to see on big screen more then once".

No, I'm not a board member, but Nolan and Goyer already stated what villians they were going to use and Catwoman was not one of them.

Quote - regwec

"You're living in the past and you're gay"

That hurts my feelings. No really it does. Regwec, I've never liked you, and now I hate you.

Guys, I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I don't like Jolie. Don't bash me for it. You two should grow up.


Neither Nolan nor Goyer have stated officially what villians will be in BB2 - besides Joker, Two-Face. Plus is Catwoman really a villian?

[DorkyFresh]

No, I'm not a board member, but Nolan and Goyer already stated what villians they were going to use and Catwoman was not one of them.
Nolan and Goyer have an IDEA of what villains they want to use for the NEXT movie...but they never specified which characters would be used for the 3rd movie. As far as we know....Two Face is the only one even SPECULATED to be in part 3...that leaves room for at LEAST 1 more main character.

[StorminNorman]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

If this woman plays Catwoman, I will never watch another Batman movie ever again. First of all, I can't believe you people think Jolie will make the best Catwoman ever. Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me. I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive. I'd be sick to my stomach if the old fashioned, elegant beauty of Michelle was replaced by this woman who has about as much elegance as a bathroom as a state prison. And finally, Jolie is a horrible actress. Forget the fact that she has an Oscar. I've heard from various sources that Girl, Interrupted is a horrible movie.

The bottom line:


I HATE ANGELINA JOLIE!

Prieffers catwoman was just flat out strange - in a good way, but I think Jolie could really pull it off; but to make a statement so bold as saying I will never watch Batman again is rediculous

[Two-Face]

Let me respond to a few people's respones:

Quote - Two-Face

"Are you a boardmember of WB or something?? we don't know what future might bring, you've might be right or wrong, if they choose to use Selina Kyle Jolie least has to be considered by WB and if they choose someone else I'll still go see it I'm Batman fan. This is like when fans heard Katie Holmes signed to play in Batman Begins some of the fans didn't want to go see Begins because of her but Holmes being in the movie didn't stop me to see on big screen more then once".

No, I'm not a board member, but Nolan and Goyer already stated what villians they were going to use and Catwoman was not one of them.

Quote - regwec

"You're living in the past and you're gay"

That hurts my feelings. No really it does. Regwec, I've never liked you, and now I hate you.

Guys, I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I don't like Jolie. Don't bash me for it. You two should grow up.


For thing I didn't call you a "gay" second I'm 22 and grown man, you wouldn't see it cos IF Jolie plays Selina in a Batman movie, it's you that being childish it's fine you don't like Jolie I’m just saying you will see it no matter what

[Jolie_Desastre]

http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/images/angelina_jolie.jpg

If this woman plays Catwoman, I will never watch another Batman movie ever again. First of all, I can't believe you people think Jolie will make the best Catwoman ever. Pfeiffer wil always be Catowman to me. I also don't find Jolie the least bit attractive. I'd be sick to my stomach if the old fashioned, elegant beauty of Michelle was replaced by this woman who has about as much elegance as a bathroom as a state prison. And finally, Jolie is a horrible actress. Forget the fact that she has an Oscar. I've heard from various sources that Girl, Interrupted is a horrible movie.

The bottom line:


I HATE ANGELINA JOLIE!

ok you aren't gay. and you have a right to your own opinion. but shouldn't you watch an actress's work b4 you judge her. you just heard it was a terrible movie. and that she is a terrible actress?:o

[The Chairman]

For thing I didn't call you a "gay" second I'm 22 and grown man, you wouldn't see it cos IF Jolie plays Selina in a Batman movie, it's you that being childish it's fine you don't like Jolie I’m just saying you will see it no matter what

First of all, it was regwec who called me gay, not you. I was talking to him when I mentioned that. Secondly, the main reason I don't want Jolie, other than the fact that she doesn't appeal to me is that she'd just seem out of place. I mean, Christian Bale is well established as probably the best actor working in Hollywood today, and Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman are considered legends in the business. I'm not sure if Jolie is capable of going up against them. She seems to media savvy at the moment, and I think she might take too much attention away from the film, which Nolan seems against doing. And to be honest, I probably shouldn't call her a bad actress since I've only seen one film of hers in its entirety (Gone In 60 Seconds, which unlike most people, I actually liked), but her recent films (Taking Lives, the Lara Croft movies) didn't get very good reviews, plus she doesn't make films that appeal to me. As for her not being attractive, there's just something about her that turns me off. She's not butt ugly, but I do think there are prettier women in the world.

So, there you have it. Hopefully, we'll be able to work out our differences and accept each other's opinions. I'm willing to do it.

[Jolie_Desastre]

well you should really judge films for yourself. that's all i'm saying. and who knows when we will have a catwoman storyline. hopefully the damn tabloids will tone down a bit. oh waht am i sayin? those are tabloids i'm talking about!!

[DarkKnightJRK]

well you should really judge films for yourself. that's all i'm saying. and who knows when we will have a catwoman storyline. hopefully the damn tabloids will tone down a bit. oh waht am i sayin? those are tabloids i'm talking about!!

I agree, I watched some of her movies before I decided she was a horrible actress. :):up:

[CASHMERE]

First of all, it was regwec who called me gay, not you. I was talking to him when I mentioned that. Secondly, the main reason I don't want Jolie, other than the fact that she doesn't appeal to me is that she'd just seem out of place. I mean, Christian Bale is well established as probably the best actor working in Hollywood today, and Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman are considered legends in the business. I'm not sure if Jolie is capable of going up against them. She seems to media savvy at the moment, and I think she might take too much attention away from the film, which Nolan seems against doing. And to be honest, I probably shouldn't call her a bad actress since I've only seen one film of hers in its entirety (Gone In 60 Seconds, which unlike most people, I actually liked), but her recent films (Taking Lives, the Lara Croft movies) didn't get very good reviews, plus she doesn't make films that appeal to me. As for her not being attractive, there's just something about her that turns me off. She's not butt ugly, but I do think there are prettier women in the world.


So, there you have it. Hopefully, we'll be able to work out our differences and accept each other's opinions. I'm willing to do it.

Whoe I'm one of those people who are anti-Angelina Jolie for Catwoman but saying that Jolie isn't capable of going up against them is crazy talk. Angelina Jolie is a powerhouse. She didn't win an oscar for no reason. It's not her performances that are bad its the movie. Since when was Christian Bale established as the best actor working in hollywood right now? before his turn as Batman he barely got any recognition. There was American Psycho and his massive weight loss for The Machinist but best actor right now I don't know about that.:) Uh I don't really know what's my point whatever:confused: I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

ooh on the fence Cashmere I like it

[infoghost]

Ashley still gets my vote.


http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/3564/2324jh.jpg

[Lazmarquez]

I'm usually not at this neck of the woods, but love the good Batman Movies (original, returns,and begins) and thought i'd put some of my thoughts here.
I personally grew up in the time when Returns was huge, and had introduced Pfeifer's complex Catwoman, which truly gave her a grounding in which I felt any Batman Media ever really touched on. She was tragic, she had a TRUE motive, and was flawed. In my opinion, Michelle Pfeifer created the role, owned it and will in my opinion always embody the character and how I feel she should always be fleshed out.

I wouldn't be opposed to a re-introduction of Catwoman and Selina, and I feel like Nolan is a very smart man and can justify the character and his casting choice. I have to agree with a few people on the board though, Jolie is a very wrong choice in so many respects. Jolie is gorgeous, it's become insane overkill at this point. She can turn women lesbian, gay men straight, straight men straighter. I get it. She is ideal for any man in terms of her physical attributes. BUT, Jolie truly doesn't embody the ideals of Selina. I watch Jolie on screen and see only that, Angelina Jolie. I have seen almost every movie she has done and cannot be convinced that she is anything otherwise. (Closest to character change was Girl, Interupted). But I never would be able to see her play Catwoman.

Personally, I'd prefer a no-name, great actress to play the role. I think thats always a good way to go with characters like this, but if choices had to be made. Beckinsale is an okay idea, not my first pick though. Theron isn't a bad one either, she is most definetly a great enough actress to take on the role. But I'd go with a No-Name.

[Timstuff]

If they'd ditch Katie Holmes because of "Tomkat" you'd better believe they'd avoid Jolie like the plague because of "Bradgelina". I don't want to sound too much like a hater, but I really think Jolie is one of the most overrated geek-godesses on the entire internet.

I doubt Nolan will want to cast someone as Catwoman who could possibly overshadow Bale. The last thing they want is for the movie's premier to turn into a Bradgelina photoshoot/autograph signing session (it happened to Batman Begins with Tomkat), and I don't want to see it happen either. Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine were awesome as Luscious Fox and Alfred, but that's because they are respected for their skills as an actor and didn't let themselves become E! Network fodder. There's a very distinct line I draw between "respected actor" and "hot celeb". Freeman, Caine, and Bale fall into the former category, but Jolie falls into the latter.

I don't want to sound like I'm Jolie bashing, but I'm trying to inject a little bit of reality into this thread after reading 5+ posts saying "Jolie is HAWT! She has big lips! She has teh sassy 'tude! She's walking sex! No one can play Catwoman but Jolie!". The truth is that if Catwoman is in Batman 2 she will most likely NOT be played by Jolie, just like she won't play the 50+ other popular action heroines that internet fanboys think she's "perfect" to play. It will probably be someone who hasn't been in lots of smash-hit blockbusters or appear alot on the "celebrity radar".

[Smegger56]

To those that aren't fond of the idea of Angelina Jolie playing catwoman, then thats fine.

But anyways, i found a pic of her with the best set of 'cats' eyes ever.

http://lanylane.canalblog.com/images/angelina_jolie03.jpg

Oh yeah, catwoman right there.

If she did become catwoman too, i don't think i'd ever be able to stand straight again :D

[Timstuff]

I agree, I watched some of her movies before I decided she was a horrible actress. :):up:

touche! :D:up:

[The Chairman]

I'm usually not at this neck of the woods, but love the good Batman Movies (original, returns,and begins) and thought i'd put some of my thoughts here.

I personally grew up in the time when Returns was huge, and had introduced Pfeifer's complex Catwoman, which truly gave her a grounding in which I felt any Batman Media ever really touched on. She was tragic, she had a TRUE motive, and was flawed. In my opinion, Michelle Pfeifer created the role, owned it and will in my opinion always embody the character and how I feel she should always be fleshed out.

I wouldn't be opposed to a re-introduction of Catwoman and Selina, and I feel like Nolan is a very smart man and can justify the character and his casting choice. I have to agree with a few people on the board though, Jolie is a very wrong choice in so many respects. Jolie is gorgeous, it's become insane overkill at this point. She can turn women lesbian, gay men straight, straight men straighter. I get it. She is ideal for any man in terms of her physical attributes. BUT, Jolie truly doesn't embody the ideals of Selina. I watch Jolie on screen and see only that, Angelina Jolie. I have seen almost every movie she has done and cannot be convinced that she is anything otherwise. (Closest to character change was Girl, Interupted). But I never would be able to see her play Catwoman.

Personally, I'd prefer a no-name, great actress to play the role. I think thats always a good way to go with characters like this, but if choices had to be made. Beckinsale is an okay idea, not my first pick though. Theron isn't a bad one either, she is most definetly a great enough actress to take on the role. But I'd go with a No-Name.




That was a beautifully written, eloquently stated objection. I'm in awe. Great post.

As a sidenote: I'd like to unveil my new choice for Catwoman/Selina Kyle:

Charlize Theron
http://www.mythen-post.ch/bilder_charlize_theron/charlize_02_im_badkleid.jpg

[Smegger56]

That is a really bad picture of her> if you showed that to WB, they'd tell you where to go. BUt yeh, Theron would be a good choice... just not from that pic. Facially, she looks great... the body though... on that pic, YIKES :eek:

[Kritish]

I'd like to see her play by Angilna Jolie and her character done as this .



The oldest of two sisters from a fractured family, Selina Kyle had one of the toughest childhoods one could imagine. After her mother's suicide, she and her sister Maggie were sent to the Youth Authority, where Selina began to see how hard the world could really be. After escaping from Juvenile Hall at age 13, she lived on the streets as a runaway and began to learn the art of being a thief, something at which she excelled. Inspired by seeing Batman in action in his early days, Selina adopted the persona of Catwoman as a way to exploit those she saw exploiting so many others. When her success as Catwoman made her wealthy, she entered Gotham's social elite, dining and dancing with the same people from whom she was stealing. It was during her time as a member of Gotham high society that Selina briefly dated Bruce Wayne.

Recently, Selina returned to the East End of Gotham to reevaluate what she wanted from her life as Catwoman, and decided she had strayed from her original path. While she still sees herself as someone who lives outside the law, now she also speaks for society's cast-offs. Someone has to care about the people who fall through the cracks.


With this type of costume
http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medbmcatwoman.jpg

[Lazmarquez]

I was really thinking about the idea of all these different actresses playing a Catwoman incarnation, and I further felt that Theron would be the best choice. I do a bunch of Fan-Art over at the X-Men Threads and thought I'd give a try at doing one of Batman. Here is my rendition of a movie poster for "Batman: Lifelines", my made up name for a Catwoman featured Batman Movie featuring Charlize Theron as Catwoman.

http://www.lazmarquez.com/art/BL.jpg

-Laz :xmen:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Nice work incorporating the Catwoman 04 mask with CHarlize Theron...unless I'm mistaken?

I actually think Naomi Watts would be good not necessarily as Catwoman, but as Selina Kyle...

[CASHMERE]

I really don't see Charlize Theron as Catwoman Im sorry.

[CASHMERE]

If they'd ditch Katie Holmes because of "Tomkat" you'd better believe they'd avoid Jolie like the plague because of "Bradgelina". I don't want to sound too much like a hater, but I really think Jolie is one of the most overrated geek-godesses on the entire internet.

I doubt Nolan will want to cast someone as Catwoman who could possibly overshadow Bale. The last thing they want is for the movie's premier to turn into a Bradgelina photoshoot/autograph signing session (it happened to Batman Begins with Tomkat), and I don't want to see it happen either. Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine were awesome as Luscious Fox and Alfred, but that's because they are respected for their skills as an actor and didn't let themselves become E! Network fodder. There's a very distinct line I draw between "respected actor" and "hot celeb". Freeman, Caine, and Bale fall into the former category, but Jolie falls into the latter.

I don't want to sound like I'm Jolie bashing, but I'm trying to inject a little bit of reality into this thread after reading 5+ posts saying "Jolie is HAWT! She has big lips! She has teh sassy 'tude! She's walking sex! No one can play Catwoman but Jolie!". The truth is that if Catwoman is in Batman 2 she will most likely NOT be played by Jolie, just like she won't play the 50+ other popular action heroines that internet fanboys think she's "perfect" to play. It will probably be someone who hasn't been in lots of smash-hit blockbusters or appear alot on the "celebrity radar".

:up: :up: This is why I think Diane Kruger is an awesome choice for Selina.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/national_treasure/diane_kruger/elevator.jpg http://images.zap2it.com/20041109/02_nationaltreasure.jpg

[StorminNorman]

I've actually liked whats her name - the actress on Rome who plays Octavians mother/Caesars sister? neice? - she may be a little to old but she has always seem to fit it for me.

[Jolie_Desastre]

I agree, I watched some of her movies before I decided she was a horrible actress. :):up:

atleast you watched her movies.

[Timstuff]

I was really thinking about the idea of all these different actresses playing a Catwoman incarnation, and I further felt that Theron would be the best choice. I do a bunch of Fan-Art over at the X-Men Threads and thought I'd give a try at doing one of Batman. Here is my rendition of a movie poster for "Batman: Lifelines", my made up name for a Catwoman featured Batman Movie featuring Charlize Theron as Catwoman.

http://www.lazmarquez.com/art/BL.jpg

-Laz :xmen:

Not a bad attempt, but you really should try to get rid of the nose on her mask. It brings back too many horrid CINO memories. :(

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Catwoman was good. The story was sucky as but it was fun. It wasn't supposed to be anything but fun. But the thing that really ticked me off were those ears that were way too high...*shivers*

I reckon Naomi Watts still.

[Timstuff]

CINO was an attrocity and every known existing copy should be shredded and burned in a thousand degree furnace. Then they should do the same for all the remaining unknown copies. It makes Bob Kane and Bill Finger roll in their gaves so loudly that the other corpses in the 'yard tell them to buy a Sleep Number bed. Multiple children were hospitalized when a tower of un-sold CINO DVDs toppled over at Best Buy, nearly crushing them. When Ashley Judd was offered to star in it, she used the script they gave her to house-break her pets. Pitoff's existance cause americans to re-name French Toast and French Fries "Freedom Toast" and "Freedom Fries" again! It's so bad that the Motion Picture Academy asked Halle Berry to send her oscar back, and the film got more Golden Raspberries than King Midas' mouth when he tries to eat pie.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

and? People don't make movies to impress you. People make movies to entertain people. If it does, great! If it doesn't, stop complaining! I don't care if the script is bad (which unfortunately it is) but I like the visuals and the catfight between the two baddies...

Look, I don't care what anybody thinks, even Halle Berry herself (she said it was a "piece of **** god awful movie") but whoever likes it likes it, like many people like Batman begins. You don't go around saying a pile of special three disc sets fell on kids and killed them...izat because that's Batman begins haha?

Oh well...

[Smegger56]

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medbmcatwoman.jpg


If we see a catwoman, i'd like to see Angelina Jolie play her, as i've said.

Also, the look of catwoman, i'd like to see the Batman: Animated series catwoman look, the gray one... but obviously worked on for the film, with different colors.

Th pic above, i don't like at all. That look is horrible, IMO

[Timstuff]

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medbmcatwoman.jpg


If we see a catwoman, i'd like to see Angelina Jolie play her, as i've said.

Also, the look of catwoman, i'd like to see the Batman: Animated series catwoman look, the gray one... but obviously worked on for the film, with different colors.

Th pic above, i don't like at all. That look is horrible, IMO

The costume looked really good in Hush. It all depends on who's drawing it.

[Two-Face]

and? People don't make movies to impress you. People make movies to entertain people. If it does, great! If it doesn't, stop complaining! I don't care if the script is bad (which unfortunately it is) but I like the visuals and the catfight between the two baddies...

Look, I don't care what anybody thinks, even Halle Berry herself (she said it was a "piece of **** god awful movie") but whoever likes it likes it, like many people like Batman begins. You don't go around saying a pile of special three disc sets fell on kids and killed them...izat because that's Batman begins haha?

Oh well...



I can't believe you're defending CINO. :down

[Timstuff]

Some people... :o

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

haha I'm allowed to! But I'm not defending CINO. (It's Catwoman BTW haha) I'm defending the hot Sharon Stone and Halle Berry...everything else is just midless eye candy

[Smegger56]

The costume looked really good in Hush. It all depends on who's drawing it.

http://www.star-collector.net/autographs/adriennebarbeau.jpg

A variation of this one. This one a excellent, but make it a lot darker.

http://www.kyushu-ns.ac.jp/~allan/Assets/Batman%20Returns/catwoman42.jpg

Mix it with this one from BR (not B&R). The Catwoman suit in this film was superb. Lose the stitching.

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medbmcatwoman.jpg

As long as we don't get this one, i'll be happy.

IMO

[DavidTyler]

Timstuff, I think your origin for Catwoman is good. It would work well on the big screen and, to tell you the truth, it doesn't really conflict with Frank Miller's origin.

In his, we see her as kind of a dominatrix call girl. This could be between the lines of your idea without ever saying or showing it. It was just one of the many things she did to support herself and her sister.

Unfortunately, I think everyone else here is right. I think the Halle Berry movie screwed the pooch.

Still, Nolan is his own man and the studio is behind him since the success of Begins. Maybe he'll take a stab at it.

[DavidTyler]

I've always wanted Ashley Judd for Lois. I can't see her as Selina.

If they were to cast Catwoman, I would completely trust Nolan on that one.

[CASHMERE]

In "Cino" IMO the bank robbery scene was decent. I also like how they gave Catwoman a fighting style that fits her, it was sleek and sexy. Cino had something right.

[Timstuff]

[img]http://www.star-collector.net/autographs/adriennebarbeau.jpg[/img

A variation of this one. This one a excellent, but make it a lot darker.

[img]http://www.kyushu-ns.ac.jp/~allan/Assets/Batman%20Returns/catwoman42.jpg[/img

Mix it with this one from BR (not B&R). The Catwoman suit in this film was superb. Lose the stitching.

[img]http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medbmcatwoman.jpg[/img

As long as we don't get this one, i'll be happy.

IMO

There are alot of artists who draw the current costume in such a way that makes it look kind of stupid. But the way Jim Lee draws it, IMO looks very good.

http://www.cnv.co.il/dude/pics/catwoman.jpg

If it looked like this in the film, I'd have no complaints at all. :up:

[Smegger56]

What gets me is the goggles and the short boots. It's a costume i personally wouldn't want to see.

[CASHMERE]

^ Same here. The short boots are so tacky, and man-ish not sexy at all - The googles oh god I don't buy it, they're so ugly.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

In "Cino" IMO the bank robbery scene was decent. I also like how they gave Catwoman a fighting style that fits her, it was sleek and sexy. Cino had something right.

YAY! At last someone agrees with me somewhat. At least you don't 100% diss it.

You only 90% diss it :D

[EnSabahNur]

as much as I'd hate to see a repeat of this but what about a return of Halle to take the role in a third installment to the Batman begins movies.

[Jolie_Desastre]

as much as I'd hate to see a repeat of this but what about a return of Halle to take the role in a third installment to the Batman begins movies.
depends on the script

[Timstuff]

as much as I'd hate to see a repeat of this but what about a return of Halle to take the role in a third installment to the Batman begins movies.

No matter how nicely you put it or how careful they are, having Halle Berry as Catwoman would automatically connect the movie with CINO in the minds of the public no matter what. There's no reason to cast Berry as Catwoman again except if they wanted to connect the film with CINO, which Warners obviousely would not want to do. It would be a mistake on almost every level imagineable to have Halle as Catwoman again, even if she's playing Selina Kyle instead of "Patience Phillips".

Having said that, someone else dangit! :mad::up:

[Karategirlx2001]

Personally I could see either Beckinsale, Jolie, or Theron as Catwoman and be happy.

Though I think Kate would make a better Talia than Catwoman. I'm not completely sure that she has the "attitude" of Selina's alter-ego.

[Postman]

I personally don't want to see catwoman again because I felt Phiffer did such a good job why bring the character back when it wasn't messed up in the original series? and esp. after that horrible horrible catwoman movie. But if i were to cast catwoman I'd go with Milla Jovovich.

[Two-Face]

I personally don't want to see catwoman again because I felt Phiffer did such a good job why bring the character back when it wasn't messed up in the original series? and esp. after that horrible horrible catwoman movie. But if i were to cast catwoman I'd go with Milla Jovovich.


Michelle Preiffier did great job as Catwoman/Selina Kyle in Batman Returns but this is new franchise and Catwoman was a freak and died after pushed off by her boss then saved by cats brought Selina back to life that was Burton's version and that's not how Catwoman is portrayed in Batman comics. I like to see Selina done right in Nolan’s Batman franchise also I like Burton version but that’s his version not a comic version of the character.

[CASHMERE]

Loved Michelle Pfeiffer's potrayal of Catwoman. I don't even read the comics but I love it.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

haha i loved it when she put a bird in her mouth!

[Timstuff]

Pfiefer was great as Catwoman, but it's not the role is her property or something. While she obviousely did a great job portraying the character, I didn't really like how her story was written. Her origin had absolutely nothing to do with her comicbook counterpart's, and she didn't seem to have any goal other than getting revenge on her boss (which seems out of character for Catwoman since she is against killing).

I'd like to see the story aspect of Catwoman done justice, and after CINO I think it's very important that she re-claim some respect with the public. While some people see CINO as the reason for why Selina shouldn't be in BB2, I think that such a view couldn't be further from the truth.

[StorminNorman]

I want Catwoman, just not in the next film (already to crowded), I would eventually like to see them have a relationship like they did in HUSH.

[Timstuff]

But what if Nolan and Goyer do? I doubt the WB is going to try and stop them if they think they can make it work.

[Two-Face]

After catwoman bombed,I don't think WB wants to introduce selina kyle to nolan's batman franchise.


Why? Since CINO is nothing to do with Catwoman/Selina Kyle character in Nolan's Batman franchise

[Karategirlx2001]

I want Catwoman, just not in the next film (already to crowded), I would eventually like to see them have a relationship like they did in HUSH.

Agreed, I'd like that kind of twist.

[Nightwing]

i also would like to see it,the way it happend in Hush.

[AJF499]

I don't think that Catwoman should appear in the next film as if rumours are true there just won't be room to do her justice. The next film may just be too close to the Halle Berry version.

Under no circumstances do I want A-list stars playing ANY of the characters, that was the problem with the pre-Nolan era. Warners should get the best actor most suitable for the part, not the biggest star they can shoe horn into the role.

Two names I'm going to throw out there for Catwoman:
Kiera Knightley and Rosario Dawson

[Nightwing]

My choice would be Kate Beckinsale.

She has that cat look,and has worked with Bale before in the movie Laurel Canyon.

[BatmanReborn]

i do think we should at least meet selina kyle in the sequel, we dont need to ever see catwoman in the trilogy, but just a nod would work, then maybe at the end of the third film, have a news report of how the freaks have risen, and one still on the loose, a cat burglar who wears a cat-suit, or something like that. ending the series but leaving room for a new cast and crew to move forward down the line.

[Ronny Shade]

Rosario Dawson
Never thought of that, but I like it.


It's gonna be hard for fans to tell who is gonna be good as Selina because she needs 2 things that are hard to know without an audition/screen test:

1) GOOD CHEMISTRY WITH BALE. This is probably the most important thing.

2) The ability to portray someone who'd be just nuts enough to dress up like a cat and go on robbing sprees. Bale definitely sold the part on his intense portrayal of the character. It was very believable that he'd actually do something like fight crime. Catwoman, if she's going to have a major role, needs to be able to pull that off.

Besides that, the pnly physical qualifications she needs are being in shape, and being hott.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Rosario DawsonWhat is the point in casting someone that totally does not have the right ethinicity for the part when there are so many actresses that do?

Casting Dawson would be like casting Will Smith as Batman or Brad Pitt as John Stewart/Green Lantern. A complete missed opurtunity for perfect casting.

[Nightwing]

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/corazon/20031023/12/620977448.jpg


:up:

[regwec]

What is the point in casting someone that totally does not have the right ethinicity for the part when there are so many actresses that do?

Casting Dawson would be like casting Will Smith as Batman or Brad Pitt as John Stewart/Green Lantern. A complete missed opurtunity for perfect casting.
Catwoman's ethnicity isn't entirely clear cut, however. She has almost always been fairly dark skinned, with deep eyes and blackish hair. She obviously isn't 100% African in origin, but she could be interpreted as of mixed ethnicity.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Catwoman's ethnicity isn't entirely clear cut, however. She has almost always been fairly dark skinned, with deep eyes and blackish hair. She obviously isn't 100% African in origin, but she could be interpreted as of mixed ethnicity.The only hints of her being mixed are in TLH and DV which hint to her coming from an Italian background. Other then that she has always been portryaed as white other then one elseworlds story that I recall and the awfull Eritha Kitt portrayel. To have her be black in a movie would be pointless when there are an abundance of actresses that could be good.

By your logic then Bruce Wayne is of mixed ethnicity because there was once a story that hinted of him having native american heritage.

[Slipping_Halo]

Selina Kyle is a completely different character than the one in CINO. That was crap, this is the real deal.

Angelina Jolie is THE ONLY person who could play Catwoman the way she should be played. It's a no-brainer. She looks like she came right out of the comic book. She's sexy, she's a good actress, she LOOKS very cat-like, and she can be completely psychotic. What more can you ask?

[regwec]

Angelina Jolie is THE ONLY ] person who could play Catwoman the way she should be played. It's a no-brainer. She looks like she came right out of the comic book. She's sexy, she's a good actress, she LOOKS very cat-like,
So do lots of actresses.
she can be completely psychotic.
Catwoman isn't even slightly psychotic.
what more can you ask?
A better actress with less of a reputation.

[Two-Face]

Selina Kyle is a completely different character than the one in CINO. That was crap, this is the real deal.

Angelina Jolie is THE ONLY person who could play Catwoman the way she should be played. It's a no-brainer. She looks like she came right out of the comic book. She's sexy, she's a good actress, she LOOKS very cat-like, and she can be completely psychotic. What more can you ask?


Well said :up:

Jolie for Selina Kyle!


But it won't be bad if Theron or Beckinsale got the role.

[Slipping_Halo]

I think Theron MIGHT be able to pull off Poison Ivy, especially better than Jolie could. I also think that Thalia Al Ghul is perfectly matched with Kate Beckinsale. The only one left is Jolie, and that's fine with me.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

You cannot get better then perfection and Jolie is absolutely perfect for the role. I don't know why people question her acting ability because I think that she's a great actress.

[Nightwing]

Jolie and Beckinsale.

My top two.

[trustyside-kick]

Between Kate Beckinsale and Angelina Jolie..I would have to choose Kate Beckinsale; although, was hard to choose. And it would be cool if they did her suit to be like the one that Catwoman wears in the HUSH series.

And to reply from Slipping Halo's reply...for Thalia Al Ghul I think Monica Belucci would be way better to play that role. I mean, not like Thalia has that much of a role in the Batman series and remember Belucci's role in the Matrix: Reloaded movie? The way her character acted in that movie is super similar to the way Thalia acts..only instead of Neo from Matrix we have Batman. (Sorry to go off topic...just wanted to say that Dx).

[Nightwing]

Between Kate Beckinsale and Angelina Jolie..I would have to choose Kate Beckinsale; although, was hard to choose. And it would be cool if they did her suit to be like the one that Catwoman wears in the HUSH series.

:up:

[Two-Face]

Bellucci would been great Talia five years ago she's older then Bale.
Angelina Jolie has the eyes the lips and acting etc... Jolie would be better Selina Kyle.

[Timstuff]

Angelina Jolie is THE ONLY person who could play Catwoman the way she should be played. It's a no-brainer. She looks like she came right out of the comic book. She's sexy, she's a good actress, she LOOKS very cat-like,
So do lots of actresses.
and she can be completely psychotic. What more can you ask?
Catwoman isn't even slightly psychotic.
What more can you ask?
A better actress with less of a reputation.

Excellent post Regwec, I agree 100%! :up:

Seriousely, people need to detach themselves from this "Jolie or no-one" attitude they've developed. The truth is, if Catwoman shows up she'll probably be played by someone else who Nolan will select, and for all you know it might be some unknown British actress who's been in a bunch of tiny British films that no-one here has ever seen or heard of.

And I'd be perfectly happy with that, because I do not obsess over Angelina Jolie 24/7. I think she is highly overrated, and I'd love to see a lesser known but highly talented actress in the role.

[Nightwing]

Well said Timstuff.

[Bullseye]

I am certainly not the biggest Jolie fan... still se would give a great performance as Catwoman.

[Nightwing]

I am certainly not the biggest Jolie fan... still se would give a great performance as Catwoman.

Handsdown.

[Bullseye]

Scarlett Johansson would be a good choice for Catwoman also. She can act as well.

[Nightwing]

Scarlett Johansson would be a good choice for Catwoman also. She can act as well.

Kate Beckinsale!

[Bullseye]

Kate Beckinsale!

I've heard that suggestion.

She's beautiful and can act... don't know though about her as Catwoman.

[Nightwing]

I've heard that suggestion.

She's beautiful and can act... don't know though about her as Catwoman.

Shes worked with Bale before,and wacth the movie "The Aviator",shes phenomenal in it.

Id love to see her as Selina Kyle.

[Bullseye]

I loved Michelle Pfeiffer's performance of Catwoman in BR. I wish she could come back and be Catwoman again.

But it is time for a new actress to be Catwoman.

[The Chairman]

I've posted this already in another Catwoman thread and I shall post it here as well.

http://www.ads345.com/adView.aspx?requesturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.featuringd ave.com%2Fimages%2Fchicks%2Fangelina01.jpg&mac=ac983ed4&Segment=1
I watched Mr. & Mrs. Smith tonight, and now I'm all for Jolie. I take back that post where I said she was ugly and can't act. I was 150 % wrong on both counts. Jolie is my top choice for Selina.

But I'm still all for Theron. They're both my top choices. I don't like one more than the other. Exact tie. Both will rock. I don't care who gets it as long as it's between those two.

(That being said, I don't think either one will top Pfeiffer).

[Nightwing]

I've posted this already in another Catwoman thread and I shall post it here as well.

http://www.ads345.com/adView.aspx?requesturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.featuringd ave.com%2Fimages%2Fchicks%2Fangelina01.jpg&mac=ac983ed4&Segment=1
I watched Mr. & Mrs. Smith tonight, and now I'm all for Jolie. I take back that post where I said she was ugly and can't act. I was 150 % wrong on both counts. Jolie is my top choice for Selina.

But I'm still all for Theron. They're both my top choices. I don't like one more than the other. Exact tie. Both will rock. I don't care who gets it as long as it's between those two.

(That being said, I don't think either one will top Pfeiffer).

You've killed me.

Shes absolutey perfect. :up:

[Dark Knight88]

Angelina Jolie was born for that role!

[Bullseye]

I didn't think her Lara Croft/Tomb Raider movies were that good... she would do great things for Catwoman.

[Nightwing]

I didn't think her Lara Croft/Tomb Raider movies were that good... she would do great things for Catwoman.

I agree.

[vividvisuals]

Angelina Jolie was not born for the role of Catwoman. She is way over rated!Plus, even IF she wanted the role, she'll NEVER get it! Period! Nolan will NEVER cast her. She is a media whore, she's too high profile.If she gets cast in that role you might as well call the next Batman film, BATMAN BEGINS 2: starring Angelina Jolie.Oh... yeah don't forget to cast old Brad as Harvey Dent.

[Nightwing]

Angelina Jolie was not born for the role of Catwoman. She is way over rated!Plus, even IF she wanted the role, she'll NEVER get it! Period! Nolan will NEVER cast her. She is a media whore, she's too high profile.If she gets cast in that role you might as well call the next Batman film, BATMAN BEGINS 2: starring Angelina Jolie.Oh... yeah don't forget to cast old Brad as Harvey Dent.

Ok you could be right on the fact the Nolan may never cast her,but no need to call her a media whore and etc...
And can we please not bring all that Brad crap in there too?
Liev Shrieber is in the lead for Dent.(Even if you were kidding)
But we Bat fans can fantasize on Jolie getting the part.

Welcome to SHH,noob.

[vividvisuals]

True... I don't need to call that... but it is true. Can anyone disagree? Is there any week that goes by that you don't hear something about her or her new man? (Sorry Brad.... Your a bad ass, but you ya messed up man!)Angelina Jolie is kinda ****ty and very strange. That's not an image I see for Selina. Selina is sexy and mysterious. Plus she's not naturaly pretty... she might not be fake, but she looks like it.Eva Longoria or Kate Beckinsale should get the role. I've never seen anything Eva was done, but they both look and act like the Selina of the comics.

[vividvisuals]

PS: I was kidding about the Brad thing.I know Liev Shrieber is in the lead I run www.gothamcitycentral.com Liev will be great as Harvey.

[Nightwing]

PS: I was kidding about the Brad thing.I know Liev Shrieber is in the lead I run www.gothamcitycentral.com.Liev (http://www.gothamcitycentral.com.Liev) will be great as Harvey.

Link doesnt work.

[vividvisuals]

Sorry about that... I forgot to space. www.gothamcitycentral.com

[WhatsHisFace]

Avoid Crapwoman at all costs!

[vividvisuals]

Avoid Crapwoman? Please elaborate.... I've gota hear this...

[Two-Face]

Avoid Crapwoman at all costs!


If you're talking about Berry's Catwoman that has nothing to do with the Nolan's Batman franchise

You're crapface.

[regwec]

You're crapface.
Hahah! A classic.

[Two-Face]

Yeah that's funny.... hahaha!

[Nightwing]

If you're talking about Berry's Catwoman that has nothing to do with the Nolan's Batman franchise

You're crapface.

Haha. :up:

[Bullseye]

Wasn't the Catwoman movie a spin-off of Batman Returns?

[regwec]

It was intended to be, but something went drastically wrong somewhere along the line.

[Bullseye]

I never saw the Catwoman movie... I hear it was not good.

[Nightwing]

I never saw the Catwoman movie... I hear it was not good.

Far worse then "not good."

Kate Beckinsale should be Catwoman.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

True Feckin' Dat!

[Nightwing]

True Feckin' Dat!

:up:

[Two-Face]

I like this picture and the make up she's got.


http://indecentes.iespana.es/fondos/kate_beckinsale/wallpaper_kate_beckinsale_7.jpg

[Nightwing]

I like this picture and the make up she's got.


http://indecentes.iespana.es/fondos/kate_beckinsale/wallpaper_kate_beckinsale_7.jpg

Two-Face....you...rock! :eek: :up:

She must play Catwoman its her destiny.

[Two-Face]

thank you Bats.

Nolan has to screen test Kate Beckinsale for th role if Nolan decided to use Selina Kyle but my first choice is Angelina Jolie

[Nightwing]

thank you Bats.

Nolan has to screen test Kate Beckinsale for th role if Nolan decided to use Selina Kyle but my first choice is Angelina Jolie

Welcome.
Ive never seen the picture before yet I do web searches on her all the time.

Nolan will obviously do screen tests first,for me its the reverse.
Kate Beckinsale is my first,Jolie is my second.
Beckinsale has starred in great films such as Pearl Harbor,The Aviator and etc.She was amazing.

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/avedavies/2005/04/02/kate20beckinsale-300.jpg

[The Chairman]

http://www.desktopexchange.com/Celebrity-Girls-pictures/Charlize-Theron-pictures-2.jpg
http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures/TheronCharlizeAG566074131.jpg
http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures/Theron_AG88002586.jpg
http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures/3C7V232987382.jpg
http://www.angelina-jolie-hot-pictures.com/angelinajolie98.jpg
http://www.angelina-jolie.o.kutno.pl/zdjecia/angelina-jolie.jpg


We need to see one of these women in tight leather carrying a whip.


Just needed to get that out of my system

[Bullseye]

I still say either Jolie or Beckinsale for Catwoman. I can't make up my mind.

[Nightwing]

Charlize Theron is def on my list now aswell.

[Bullseye]

Theron is also a good canidate for Catwoman.

[Nightwing]

Theron is also a good canidate for Catwoman.

Def.

[Bullseye]

Didn't both Jolie and Theron get Academy awards?

[Nightwing]

Didn't both Jolie and Theron get Academy awards?

Correct.

[Bullseye]

Well, then either one of those two.

Although, Beckinsale has got talent, she should also be a canidate for the role.

[Nightwing]

Well, then either one of those two.

Although, Beckinsale has got talent, she should also be a canidate for the role.

:up:

[tamron]

I'd say Beckinsale first, then Jolie. I'm not really keen on Theron as Catwoman.

My dark horse though, is Shannyn Sossamon. She's got a quirkiness about her performances that I think is very cool. I think she'd play Catwoman as more than just some bombshell, which I think would be the temptation. And her lithe body makes her believable as a cat burglar. She'd definitely be a solid character actor to plug into the role, instead of a star. She reminds me a lot of Darwyn Cooke's Catwoman, one of my favorite renditions of the character.

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5426/1543505481112yb.gif

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6867/shannynsossamon16uj.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8184/shannyn7qc.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1841/shannynsossamon1pj.jpg

[Nightwing]

I'd say Beckinsale first, then Jolie.

My dark horse though, is Shannyn Sossamon. She's got a quirkiness about her performances that I think is very cool. I think she'd play Catwoman as more than just some bombshell, which I think would be the temptation. And her lithe body makes her believable as a cat burglar. She reminds me a lot of Darwyn Cooke's Catwoman, which is my favorite rendition of the character.

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5426/1543505481112yb.gif

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6867/shannynsossamon16uj.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8184/shannyn7qc.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1841/shannynsossamon1pj.jpg

When I see that cover I already have Kate Beckinsale in my head.I could see her playing the part with either short of long hair.IMO I can see Sossamon,she has the look but not the right acting skills needing to play the role I think.

Nice pictures btw,but I think you could get banned for the last one.I suggest you edited it out.

[regwec]

It should be alright; we can't see anything pink or hairy...

[Timstuff]

I'm glad to finally see a name I haven't heard already. She seems like a pretty good canidate.

[Nightwing]

Guys I just learned,that in the comics Selina Kyle is no longer Catwoman.

[regwec]

Yes she is. Either you just made that up, or you have been misinformed.

[Nightwing]

Its at newsarama.com

[regwec]

Do you mean that it is predicted to happen, or that it already has? Because i have the most recent issue of Catwoman in my hands, and it carries no suggestion of Selina's demise.

[Nightwing]

No it will happen in March when DC jumps One Year Later.Look heres the main page of newsarama,scroll down and you'll see the interview.For some odd reason it wont let me read it thats why I couldnt post it.Will Pfeifer said it,thats why I put spoiler tags so it wouldnt be spoiled.

http://newsarama.com/

[Nightwing]

Here it is.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52812

[regwec]

So I suppose that either Huntress or Onyx will become the new Catwoman. God, Infinate Crisis sucks more and more all the time.

[Nightwing]

Most likely Huntress.

Still doesnt explain the blonde hair though.

[Two-Face]

Would that matter if Nolan chose to do Catwoman? but to me Selina Kyle always will be Catwoman

[Nightwing]

I think since its One Year ahead for the comics and not the film,then they should kepp Selina Kyle for a sequel if ever they choose to put her in it since they havent had her in the franchise yet.

Im still in awe,Selina must remain as Catwoman.

[regwec]

It probably wouldn't affect Nolan's vision. Or Alex Ross's, for that matter. But it will make me very, very unhappy.

[Nightwing]

Jsut because there has been a change with the character,I dont think it will make Nolan head that direction aswell.

[Bullseye]

What change of the character?

[MaskedManJRK]

So I suppose that either Huntress or Onyx will become the new Catwoman. God, Infinate Crisis sucks more and more all the time.

I thought Onyx bought it during War Games? Or am I thinking of Orpheous?

Anyway, my guess is since they've been showing her training a lot lately, if Catwoman is someone else OYL, it'll probably be Holly.

[Nightwing]

I think it will be Holly aswell,only cause like you said shes been training hard lately and it would explian the blonde hair.

[Timstuff]

I could care less what happens in the comics over the next five years. There's already more than enough good material that's already written to draw inspiration from, and I don't see the current comics affecting what course the movies take very drastically. If Nolan wants Catwoman in Batman 2, and he wants her to be Selina Kyle, he can do as he darn well pleases.

[Nightwing]

Thats what I said in one of my previous posts.

[Bullseye]

I wasn't for sure if talking about the movies or comics that there would be a change to the character.

I don't like the idea of a new Catwoman either.

[regwec]

I thought Onyx bought it during War Games? Or am I thinking of Orpheous?
Orpheous was tortured to death by Roman Sionis. Onyx was recently stabbed by Jason Todd, but seems to have survived.

[Bullseye]

I really do not want to see Onyx be Catwoman. I can't see anyone else as Catwoman.

Why change it.

[Nightwing]

She wont be Catwoman I can be sure of it Bullseye.

[Bullseye]

I still don't see why they need to change the character.

[regwec]

It will probably be Holly, but I would personally find that worse. There is pretty much nothing exceptional about Holly in any respect. She would be interesting as about the only lesbian mask in comics, but she has never shown the glamour, the vitality or the resiliance that makes Selina Catwoman.

[Nightwing]

Oh yeah I forgot that Holly was a lesbian.

[Two-Face]

Holly was lesbian? I didn't know.

[Nightwing]

Yep hard to believe aint it.

[MaskedManJRK]

Yep hard to believe aint it.

Not really, one could see a lot of subtext in Year One...

And I find it odd that people didn't know that. Just browsing through an issue of the Brubacker run, it's pretty obvious. :o

[Timstuff]

I have a feeling that infinant crisis can only lead down to one, inevitable road: a complete restart of DC continuity, ala the Marvel Ultimate line.

[regwec]

No, that won't happen. DC already did that with C.O.I.E., before Marvel stole the idea. It will simply be an overhaul of the status quo.

[IzzyJG99]

To me, really. I think putting Jolie into the movie would be putting A+ Lister with to many A- Listers and would take away from the movie. Like them dumb Bond Girls. Bond failed when they started putting famous girls in as Bond Girls.

[Symbiotica]

CINO ruins all chances we fans have of Batman had of seeing a beautiful vixen clad in tight black spandex, topped off with cat-like ears... now I have even more reason to hate that stupid CINO!!!!!!

I wouldn't say so at all.

I see no reason why CINO cannot simply be swept under the rug like the small pile of trash that it is, and they could move on from there. Let's pretend it never happened.

But no Angelina Jolie. I'm tired of her, she's everywhere and you can't get away from her. I'd much rather see Beckinsale, who physically fits the part and would add seriousness and intensity to the role.

[Nightwing]

But no Angelina Jolie. I'm tired of her, she's everywhere and you can't get away from her. I'd much rather see Beckinsale, who physically fits the part and would add seriousness and intensity to the role.

Beckinsale Beckinsale Beckinsale.

*continues chant*

[Two-Face]

To me, really. I think putting Jolie into the movie would be putting A+ Lister with to many A- Listers and would take away from the movie. Like them dumb Bond Girls. Bond failed when they started putting famous girls in as Bond Girls.


Sure that's in your opinion did Neeson, Caine, Freeman and Oldman out-shine Bale no. Also Bale is known more now that he's got a Batman movie under his belt, I think Angelina Jolie would be great Selina Kyle with the acting chops.

[regwec]

The difference between someone like Liam Neeson and someone like Angelina Jolie is that the former is known for acting and acting alone, whilst the latter is known more widely as an off-screen celebrity and personality. Far more people could recongnise and name Angelina Jolie than have actually seen her in a film; with Neeson, it's he other way around.

[Super_Ludacris]

Beckinsale Beckinsale Beckinsale.

*continues chant*

Agreed, I don't want Jolie. It would be a PR nightmare for the film.

Half the time the press would be more concerned with if she's gonna steal Bale and if there gonna go adopt some kids in Nepal. Nah, **** all that lol

[Bullseye]

I choose Beckinsale also. She would be great.

[Tojo]

1. I hope Catwoman will play a major role in Batman 2, and that Rachel Dawes is not in the film.

2. Any talk of catwoman being anyone other than Selina in the FILM SEQUEL is pretty lame, unless u weren't actually talking about the movie and just IC & OYL

3. No Angelina Jolie(bad for the film), AND NO Beckinsdale! Seriously, what Selina/Catwoman qualities has she actually got? She's good looking but hardly sexy like Catwoman is supposed to be. C-Woman needs to have a bit of a smutty side, and English actors don't have that-they are so unsexual, especially Beckinsdale.

[Super_Ludacris]

1. I hope Catwoman will play a major role in Batman 2, and that Rachel Dawes is not in the film.

2. Any talk of catwoman being anyone other than Selina in the FILM SEQUEL is pretty lame, unless u weren't actually talking about the movie and just IC & OYL

3. No Angelina Jolie(bad for the film), AND NO Beckinsdale! Seriously, what Selina/Catwoman qualities has she actually got? She's good looking but hardly sexy like Catwoman is supposed to be. C-Woman needs to have a bit of a smutty side, and English actors don't have that-they are so unsexual, especially Beckinsdale.

uh...and you know this for sure?

[Tojo]

uh...and you know this for sure?

I've seen most of her films, and that's how she comes across to me.

Look a'ight in photos though :eek:

http://www.cutelemons.com/gallery/albums/wallpaper/Kate-Beckinsale/wallpaper_Kate_Beckinsale_9.jpg

[Super_Ludacris]

I've seen most of her films, and that's how she comes across to me.

Look a'ight in photos though :eek:

http://www.cutelemons.com/gallery/albums/wallpaper/Kate-Beckinsale/wallpaper_Kate_Beckinsale_9.jpg


way to contradict yourself

[RakuMon]

Agreed, I don't want Jolie. It would be a PR nightmare for the film.

Half the time the press would be more concerned with if she's gonna steal Bale and if there gonna go adopt some kids in Nepal. Nah, **** all that lol
I also concur.

If you thought the producers were pissed about Katie Holmes' and Tom Cruise's off-screen antics taking away from publicity of the movie, just wait and see what madness Brangelina would stir up.

I used to think Jolie would make a great Catwoman too, but I have to admit, she brings too much paparazzi nonsense to the film.

[BobJM]

I want Selina to be the Rachel of BB2, although not as much as a damsel in distress kind of love interest. She could get into trouble, but have her beat up her attackers and have it hint to her Catwoman stuff.

In BB3, she has to be a love interest/villain/hero. She's a whole lotta stuff.

[BK]

I used to think Jolie would make a great Catwoman too, but I have to admit, she brings too much paparazzi nonsense to the film.
There will be no Bradgelina-type nonsense since that whole fiasco would be like 3 years old by the time they market the sequel. Unless she gets into another situation when the time comes (which I doubt since she seems to be settling down into a family now), I don't see how it would be a PR nightmare. Before there was Mr. and Mrs. Smith, her last 3 movies did fine without her taking over the spotlight. In fact, she was pretty non-existant so I'm not worried if she is cast.

[Super_Ludacris]

There will be no Bradgelina-type nonsense since that whole fiasco would be like 3 years old by the time they market the sequel. Unless she gets into another situation when the time comes (which I doubt since she seems to be settling down into a family now), I don't see how it would be a PR nightmare. Before there was Mr. and Mrs. Smith, her last 3 movies did fine without her taking over the spotlight. In fact, she was pretty non-existant so I'm not worried if she is cast.

How did Tomb Raider 2, Taking Lives and Beyond Boarders do fine?:o :D

[BK]

1) I was talking about Alexander, Sky Captain, Shark Tale, (and if you don't count cg movies) Taking Lives

2) I wasn't referring to the movies' success, but how they were marketed. As far as I could tell, Jolie did not take up any significant spotlight at all. And when she did during Mr. and Mrs. Smith, it wasn't exactly her whoring herself out to the public like Holmes/Cruise were. If you noticed, both her and Brad actually were the ones avoiding the whole thing. Sooo...not their fault.

3) I still haven't seen one good reason why Jolie should be counted out, as well as any other celebrity mentioned that is deemed "too famous". So all of you can still suck it. :o :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

1) I was talking about Alexander, Sky Captain, Shark Tale, (and if you don't count cg movies) Taking Lives

2) I wasn't referring to the movies' success, but how they were marketed. As far as I could tell, Jolie did not take up any significant spotlight at all. And when she did during Mr. and Mrs. Smith, it wasn't exactly her whoring herself out to the public like Holmes/Cruise were. If you noticed, both her and Brad actually were the ones avoiding the whole thing. Sooo...not their fault.

3) I still haven't seen one good reason why Jolie should be counted out, as well as any other celebrity mentioned that is deemed "too famous". So all of you can still suck it. :o :up:

1) Alexander sucked, Shark Tale made it's money but sucked and She wasn't saying nothing in Sky captain

2) You could say the same about Katie and Tom prior to there get together. And the thing is even if Jolie doesn't whore herself out (and she probably wont) the press will anyways. It's a tough break

3) this has been a poor response on my part but
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tmsxl/mad.jpg


I joke of course :)

[BK]

1) Like I already said, I'm only talking about marketing. Obviously if she's cast in BB2, it's be more likely that film would not suck like the films she has done before.

2) Yes, Tom and Kate were pretty hushhush about it at first, but that didn't last long. Jolie's been pretty quiet when it comes to the paparazzi blowing up all her stories. And as I mentioned before, I don't think she'll be doing anything nearly as big as the Bradgelina scandal since she wants to settle down now. I think she's stopped doing the crazy teenage-girl s**t, she's a big girl now. :p

3) Using Cam'ron as any part of your retort against me is an insult to my intelligence as well as to the message board. Please leave the vicinity as I will surely throw a b***h-fit anytime now. :o

[Nightwing]

Hey Super Ludacris nice avvy.

[The Chairman]

1) I was talking about Alexander, Sky Captain, Shark Tale, (and if you don't count cg movies) Taking Lives

2) I wasn't referring to the movies' success, but how they were marketed. As far as I could tell, Jolie did not take up any significant spotlight at all. And when she did during Mr. and Mrs. Smith, it wasn't exactly her whoring herself out to the public like Holmes/Cruise were. If you noticed, both her and Brad actually were the ones avoiding the whole thing. Sooo...not their fault.

3) I still haven't seen one good reason why Jolie should be counted out, as well as any other celebrity mentioned that is deemed "too famous". So all of you can still suck it. :o :up:

Good post. Another reason I think Jolie should be cast is that she really needs to return a strong dramatic role. After Girl Interrupted, I think she did too many big budget action flicks rather than taking more roles that exposed her acting abilities. And most of the films were bad, even her more dramatic films. And while Mr. & Mrs. Smith is one of my favorite movies, it still wasn't the kind of film that exposed her acting abilities. The same can be said for my other number one choice, Charlize Theron, after the debacle that was Aeon Flux. Nolan can put their acting careers back on track and expose their acting abilities again. While some argue that superhero films are indeed big budget action flicks, Nolan's are much more than that.

That all said, Theron or Jolie or no one!!!

[Super_Ludacris]

3) Using Cam'ron as any part of your retort against me is an insult to my intelligence as well as to the message board. Please leave the vicinity as I will surely throw a b***h-fit anytime now. :o


Don't be mad at the shinning canary diamond chincilla piffnes Aye!
http://www.thejunkblog.com/uploaded_images/camron-773263.gif

[Super_Ludacris]

Good post. Another reason I think Jolie should be cast is that she really needs to return a strong dramatic role

At the risk of pissing my fellow comic book fans:

I don't think from Jolie's perspective as non comic book fan she's thinking that dressing up as a cat in skin tight latex is a serious role. Even though we know Nolan's vision is authentic. Plus you gotta think after Mr and Ms. Smith and Tomb Raider does she want to continue making those type of all action films?
I just don't think Jolie is the unanimous choice and in some cases her casting could back fire. Like I said with the whole press distraction thing doesn't have to be generated from her. hell, it wont' be generated from her and even if Brad Pitt is long gone by 2008 it's still Angelina Jolie and she still brings that by default
Now I am always one of these people who supports big name superstars taking a role over unknown just for there own sake of proving they still have acting chops but sometimes they don't think a comic book adaption is the route (even though with today's generation of comic flicks they bring that rare balance of good story and box office stong numbers).

[Super_Ludacris]

That all said, Theron or Jolie or no one!!!
See that's the thing I mean, how do you know there's no one else? lol. There could be someone.

[BK]

Of course there's always someone. Problem is you'd be hard-pressed to find that perfect person for the role. Just as I can say that Bale is no doubt the best choice for Batman out of all the actors that were presented, I am open to believe that there may have been another unknown out there that had the potential to be better.

Same case here with Catwoman imo. There are plenty of choices out there, but I think Theron, Jolie, (and to a lesser extent) Beckinsale, are the top choices that we have. It's PURELY coincedental that these ladies are very well known in Hollywood and attract the media more than others.

Anyone that's known me from way back knows I am truly against casting big-name actors just for the sake of garnering ticket sales. I'm all for casting the right person, and these 3 I think are the best choices we have aside from screentesting unknowns. With that said, if none of those 3 are chosen, I hope to god the unknown that is cast will do a suitable job. With Nolan at the helm though, at this point I can pretty much trust his decision whoever it may be. :up:

[regwec]

Angelina probably would like the role. It's iconic, putting her in the same calibre as Michelle Pfeiffer; and Angelina really needs another solid lead-female role to sustain her otherwise inflated celebrity capital. She is in danger of becoming known for her sexual/maternal exploits more than her acting.

[Super_Ludacris]

Angelina probably would like the role. It's iconic, putting her in the same calibre as Michelle Pfeiffer; and Angelina really needs another solid lead-female role to sustain her otherwise inflated celebrity capital. She is in danger of becoming known for her sexual/maternal exploits more than her acting.

And of course the best way to stop that is for her to play Catwoman. Lol!

[regwec]

Since when has Catwoman been maternal? :confused:

[Super_Ludacris]

Since when has Catwoman been maternal? :confused:

sigh... I meant in relation to her sexual exploits (and films)

[regwec]

I don't think she need worry about using her inate sexuality in films- that's just playing to her strengths. I just think that she needs a meaty role in a decent film to regain some of her credibility.

At the same time, I don't want her in the role.

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't think she need worry about using her inate sexuality in films- that's just playing to her strengths. I just think that she needs a meaty role in a decent film to regain some of her credibility.



But can you honestly step back from the comic book world and as an average person say that playing Catwoman is the solution to that?

Obviously not

[Two-Face]

Angelina Jolie would be great as Catwoman/Selina and other would be Theron and Beckinsale that's my top three for the role but Jolie is Selina.

[Tojo]

way to contradict yourself

ah jeez lighten up.

[Nightwing]

Angelina Jolie would be great as Catwoman/Selina and other would be Theron and Beckinsale that's my top three for the role but Jolie is Selina.

*Prays to god while on knees*

She has to get the part of Selina.I saw her in some new Underworld 2 commercial and she get nude in one scene and fights etc....Sheer bliss.

[Bullseye]

Beckinsale is my new numbere one choice for Catwoman.

[regwec]

But can you honestly step back from the comic book world and as an average person say that playing Catwoman is the solution to that?

Obviously not
...er, yes. It's not the whole answer, but it could be a part of it.

[Bullseye]

So, I guess they would be using Selena in a sequel.

[Two-Face]

I highly doubt it but you never know what Nolan could do next.

[Superman79]

[quote=Super_Ludacris]At the risk of pissing my fellow comic book fans:

I don't think from Jolie's perspective as non comic book fan she's thinking that dressing up as a cat in skin tight latex is a serious role. Even though we know Nolan's vision is authentic. [quote]

Still my friend, do not forget that if you talk about actors who only take serious roles, Mr. Bale himself would top that list, and really was kind of an unlikely candidate for the role (at first I wondered if he would really do it- and thank the powers that be that he did!!) So it is completely possible that Angelina ( or another "serious" actress) would consider the role.

As for my actress preference...Angelina, KAte, Charlise, all of them would do well, I have a hard time deciding, but I will say if they were to introduce Talia to the franchise, Kate B. would be perfect. :up:

[Captain Wonder]

Eva Longoria
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DAMCE/Eva%20Longoria/eva_11.jpg

[The Chairman]

Eva Longoria
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DAMCE/Eva%20Longoria/eva_11.jpg


You know, Eva is my second choice after Jolie and Theron but she doesn't even come close to matching what those two would bring to the role.

Also, I know this may seem, but do any of you think Angie Harmon would make a good Selina?

[regwec]

I adore Angie, but think that she is more cut out for Talia.

[Eddie Dean]

What about Dagmara Dominczyk?
http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/d/dagmara_dominczyk_1.jpg