Catwoman / Selina Kyle thread

[Keyser Sushi]

Rosario Dawson! :cool:

Good choice! :up:

[batboy99]

Yes. She is not the best one.

I'm happy to see someoene else brought up Neve Campbell.:up:
As for the boobage, she has a good size in my opinion.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/castings/ncnaomikaltmangotham0010lq.jpg
i think she would be good for selina,she just needs to be in more movies
Does anyone have the ORIGINAL files for this? And no, I don't mean Matthew McConaughey face.i do,ill try to find it

[The Only Woj]

Yes. She is not the best one.

I'm happy to see someoene else brought up Neve Campbell.:up:
As for the boobage, she has a good size in my opinion.

Clearly, my celebrity boobage knowledge is inferior.

[batboy99]

i tried :(
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/Batman/nc.jpg

[David Rice]

I've thought so for a while, but I think it's just becoming more noticeable now.

:oldrazz:


Is jrpstarwars another user name? I only have this one.

[David Rice]

im starting to think that he might be him....

Who is this jrpstarwars? What the heck are you guys talking about?

[David Rice]

i think she would be good for selina,she just needs to be in more movies
i do,ill try to find it

She might work, how old is she?

[Nepenthes]

I think Jolie is just too cliche for the role.

That's right :up: she would be the ultimate in fanboy casting. I'm not saying she's a bad actor, just that she'd almost be a cartoon if she was Catwoman.

Neve would good, but she doesn't have the star power I think the role needs.


Very nice!

thanks!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/charlizec3.jpg
here's a newer version, fixed colours and make-up and things.

I've also decided that Catwoman should have two different colour eyes!

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Why?? :confused:

[The Dutch Hulk]

How about Neve Campbell or Eva Mendez ???

Or should i just shut up :woot: ???

[The Only Woj]

http://www.justsayah.com/pages/AHp22.html#

[Rac]

I kinda liked the idea of Ashley Judd as Selina. But dunno.

[Two-Face]

I kinda liked the idea of Ashley Judd as Selina. But dunno.


She's too old for the role I wouldn't mind Judd as Selina if they were doing 40 year old Batman.

[batboy99]

How about Neve Campbell or Eva Mendez ???

Or should i just shut up :woot: ???
i likeem both

[batboy99]

She might work, how old is she?
33 like bale and shes canadian :)
shes tied for #1 along with jolie and dawson for me,if only she was in more movies
and a random name,i know shes more harley type but how about fairuza balk?just a random thought

[batboy99]

bump
how about the original tomb raider rhona mitra?

[batboy99]

i just went through a thread (not this one)and seen that someone mentioned alyssa milano for selina,what do you guys think?

[DrMylesOBoogie]

damn, someone already beat me to suing Adam Hughe's cover...hehe. i swear this is a coincidence guys...but here...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman.jpgAwesome.

[Spider-Fan83]

i just went through a thread (not this one)and seen that someone mentioned alyssa milano for selina,what do you guys think?
out of the girls from Charmed I'd probably go with Rose McGowan over Alyssa Milano
but, I personally wouldn't go with either

[batboy99]

rose is way too thin imo,she would break,id prefer milano over her and alyssa is hotter but im sticking with rosario

[Spider-Fan83]

rose is way too thin imo,she would break,id prefer milano over her and alyssa is hotter but im sticking with rosario
like I said nether would really work for me, I mentioned rose, thinking back to her role in monkeybone as miss kitty lol
http://r-mcgowan.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=3502&fullsize=1

[batboy99]

wtf lol haha

[Spider-Fan83]

wtf lol haha
I take it you've never seen monkeybone lol


btw: the too thin commit from you who, supported Ricci is kinda funny

[batboy99]

past tense and she could bulk up a bit for the role,she used to be good before

[Castlewood]

To me, it's so painfully obvious..... Keira Knightley. I don't understand why there should be an argument. Keira as Catwoman is almost as obvious as Bale as Batman back in 2003. "DUH!!"

- She's a brit.
- She seems like a "Nolan girl".
- She's HOTTER than Angelina (in my opinion).
- She can do physical roles (Pirates).
- She's a VERY good actress (Pride and Prejudice).
- And above all... she's a freakin' Sex Kitten.... and kittens are small cats, so in essence, she should be Catwoman.







And... not to be Johnny Raincloud here, but why is there a Catwoman thread in the Dark Knight board when we all know damn well that she's not in it?

[batboy99]

i could see it just i dunno she wouldnt work at the same time i dont know how to explain it lol
Rosario Dawson For Catwoman!

[Miranda Fox]

To me, it's so painfully obvious..... Keira Knightley. I don't understand why there should be an argument. Keira as Catwoman is almost as obvious as Bale as Batman back in 2003. "DUH!!"

- She's a brit.
- She seems like a "Nolan girl".
- She's HOTTER than Angelina (in my opinion).
- She can do physical roles (Pirates).
- She's a VERY good actress (Pride and Prejudice).
- And above all... she's a freakin' Sex Kitten.... and kittens are small cats, so in essence, she should be Catwoman.







And... not to be Johnny Raincloud here, but why is there a Catwoman thread in the Dark Knight board when we all know damn well that she's not in it?

And she's the size of a toothpick.

Look, I like Knightley, but she's no Selina. For one thing, Catwoman should look like she can throw a punch. Keira is very slight.

Also, whoever said Catwoman wouldn't be in TDK!?

[batboy99]

she may be good for ivy,though green is better

[Crooklyn]

To me, it's so painfully obvious..... Keira Knightley. I don't understand why there should be an argument. Keira as Catwoman is almost as obvious as Bale as Batman back in 2003. "DUH!!"

- She's a brit.
Wonderful reason. :dry:

- She seems like a "Nolan girl".
Maybe you'd like to elaborate on what the hell that is.

- She's HOTTER than Angelina (in my opinion).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/005.gif

- She can do physical roles (Pirates).
Yup, but Angelina has done more. ;)

- She's a VERY good actress (Pride and Prejudice).
Won't disagree there.

- And above all... she's a freakin' Sex Kitten.... and kittens are small cats, so in essence, she should be Catwoman.
Keira is cute, but her body is the equivalent of a prepubescent 12 year-old boy. How in the world that remotely translates into SEX KITTEN, I don't know...

And... not to be Johnny Raincloud here, but why is there a Catwoman thread in the Dark Knight board when we all know damn well that she's not in it?
Says who? :confused:

[NinjaTurtleFan]

And she's the size of a toothpick.

Look, I like Knightley, but she's no Selina. For one thing, Catwoman should look like she can throw a punch. Keira is very slight.

Also, whoever said Catwoman wouldn't be in TDK!?

Yeah, her and Nicole Ritchie need to eat some damn sandwiches. I mean what's so wrong with a couple of slices of Wonderbread? lol

[batboy99]

ritchie wont be able to eat a quarter of a slice of wonderbread lol
actually,shes been gaining weight now

[Agentsands77]

To me, it's so painfully obvious..... Keira Knightley. I don't understand why there should be an argument. Keira as Catwoman is almost as obvious as Bale as Batman back in 2003. "DUH!!"

- She's a brit.
Catwoman's not a Brit.

- She seems like a "Nolan girl".
How so?

- She's HOTTER than Angelina (in my opinion).
Totally opinion. I'm not a fan of Jolie for the part, but I'd think she's much more attractive than skinny beanpole Knightley.

- She can do physical roles (Pirates).
So can many actresses.

- She's a VERY good actress (Pride and Prejudice).
Sorry, but her acclaim for that role was a joke. She's not a good actress, and her work in PRIDE AND PREJUDICE was merely passable.

- And above all... she's a freakin' Sex Kitten.... and kittens are small cats, so in essence, she should be Catwoman.
The same logic could have been applied to Halle Berry, and look how that turned out. And she doesn't really have the edge that Catwoman should have.

[Castlewood]

What the hell makes you guys think Catwoman is in TDK?!?!?!? :huh: :huh:

- Batman
- Joker
- Dent / possible Two-Face arc
- Gordon

There's no way IN HELL that Catwoman will be in TDK. There is no evidence to suggest it, and the very thought of her in it makes the movie seem as overcrowded as X-Men 3.

Come on, guys. :cwink: We're better than this.

[Crooklyn]

X3 had like 20+ characters in it. Hardly a comparison.

And you're right, there's no suggestion that Catwoman will be in it. But there's no suggestion that she won't either. My guess? If she appears at all, it'll be as Selina only.

[Brian2887]

Let's not forget the possible inclusion of Black Mask and Penguin.

[Warhammer]

No Catwoman.

No need for her.

[Warhammer]

What the hell makes you guys think Catwoman is in TDK?!?!?!? :huh: :huh:

- Batman
- Joker
- Dent / possible Two-Face arc
- Gordon

I love that formula.
That's the way it should be and stay.

F*** Catwoman. :up: :up:
IMO, it's stupid for her to be in these movies.

[Warhammer]

Let's not forget the possible inclusion of Black Mask and Penguin.

Correctomundo. :up:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

No Catwoman.

No need for her.

We've already said she won't be in TDK, maybe a cameo as Selina, but no Catwoman.

And there's no need for the Joker, or the Scarecrow, or a sequel for that matter, fi you are going to play like that :o

[Nepenthes]

No Catwoman.

No need for her.

Have you read the script?

You actually have no idea what the movie needs




the fact that everything is so secret tells me they're hiding a massive surprise...could be anything

[batboy99]

we need selina!

[Castlewood]

Have you read the script?

You actually have no idea what the movie needs




the fact that everything is so secret tells me they're hiding a massive surprise...could be anything


If anything, it's.... The Penguin, without a doubt.

[Crooklyn]

And you're basing this on.... :confused:

[Nepenthes]

intuition?

[batboy99]

i think these are my 3 favorites for the catwoman role right now
http://www.evamendes.com/images/modeling/stills/tanpushup/eva_mendes_dot_com850.jpg
http://www.katrinadelmar.com/rosario.jpg
http://www.beautyriot.com/stuff/images/articles/approve/1961_1701_Jolie-Angelina-hair-03-400-lo.jpg

[Miranda Fox]

i think these are my 3 favorites for the catwoman role right now
http://www.evamendes.com/images/modeling/stills/tanpushup/eva_mendes_dot_com850.jpg
http://www.katrinadelmar.com/rosario.jpg
http://www.beautyriot.com/stuff/images/articles/approve/1961_1701_Jolie-Angelina-hair-03-400-lo.jpg

Dammit, I want the t-shirt Rosario is wearing. ;)

[batboy99]

lol :p

[Nepenthes]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Penelope-Cruz-Photograph-C12036690.jpeg

She's actually a really good actor. But only in Spanish movies. :csad:

[batboy99]

i think shes good in 'english' movies too

[Two-Face]

What the hell makes you guys think Catwoman is in TDK?!?!?!? :huh: :huh:

- Batman
- Joker
- Dent / possible Two-Face arc
- Gordon

There's no way IN HELL that Catwoman will be in TDK. There is no evidence to suggest it, and the very thought of her in it makes the movie seem as overcrowded as X-Men 3.

Come on, guys. :cwink: We're better than this.


Are YOU head of WB? NO.
Apart from the characters you mentioned there will be more characters in TDK just like BB.

[Castlewood]

Are YOU head of WB? NO.
Apart from the characters you mentioned there will be more characters in TDK just like BB.

I will give you a check for $1,000 if I'm wrong. PM me with info on who to send it to.

[David Rice]

No Catwoman.

No need for her.

WRRRRRRRONG!

[NinjaTurtleFan]

i think these are my 3 favorites for the catwoman role right now
http://www.evamendes.com/images/modeling/stills/tanpushup/eva_mendes_dot_com850.jpg
http://www.katrinadelmar.com/rosario.jpg
http://www.beautyriot.com/stuff/images/articles/approve/1961_1701_Jolie-Angelina-hair-03-400-lo.jpg

Jolie all the way! :woot: :yay: :word:

[Spider-Fan83]

I was thinking, and I am just throwing this out there as a random thought take for what you want, Liv Tyler
http://www.facade.com/celebrity/photo/Liv_Tyler.jpg

[batboy99]

she seems more like i dunno,the wonder woman type?

[Spider-Fan83]

she seems more like i dunno,the wonder woman type?
i was thinking of her as more of a ...
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4328/cattoy3ex.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

type

[batboy99]

shes a little too tall for catwoman(btw i have that figure lol)i think liv is like 5 11 or something,catwomans 5'6 if its like one or 2 inches taller/shorter its fine but not 5 inches

[Spider-Fan83]

shes a little too tall for catwoman(btw i have that figure lol)i think liv is like 5 11 or something,catwomans 5'6 if its like one or 2 inches taller/shorter its fine but not 5 inches
depending on what version of catwoman your going with, shes usually described any where between 5'6" and 5'8", which really you don't have to go with the exact height of the comic character, Liv is like 5'10"ish, that isn't extreme, I'd kinda like a taller catwoman anyway
but, like a said she was just a random thought, so I am not too set on her, just throwing another name in to the mix

BTW: again, coming from you who liked Ricci (whos 5'1" at the most) auguring height is kinda funny (i know "liked" past tense,but, still)

[strider]

Im just happy Catwoman wont be in TDK. :]

[NinjaTurtleFan]

she seems more like i dunno,the wonder woman type?

Yeah, I think so too. I don't think Liv is much of an actress though.

[Keyser Sushi]

Goddamn double-post.

[Keyser Sushi]

Yeah, I think so too. I don't think Liv is much of an actress though.

I thought that too, but she was pretty good in LOTR.

[batboy99]

Yeah, I think so too. I don't think Liv is much of an actress though.
no she is an actress and shes pretty good too

[batboy99]

what about the girl form tm3?

[batboy99]

or just a random name,jeniffer garner?

[Spider-Fan83]

or just a random name,jeniffer garner?
oh, haha, ok, yes i just came in here throwing out random names, with out much thought behind, ok, i get it, no need to be sarcastic

ok, just, one more random name, Claire Forlani
(ever see The Medallion, she was pretty good, and, she's only 5'7" lol)

[batboy99]

claire is actually my choice for vicky vale


ok how bout this,really unconventional and i know people like her for harley but fairuza balk,i dont know why lol but i like her,probably cuz im into the goth stuff

[Two-Face]

I will give you a check for $1,000 if I'm wrong. PM me with info on who to send it to.

Will do.:woot:

[DorkyFresh]

if she ends up being a good actress, i think this chick would be awesome...

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/25/alicia_keys_narrowweb__200x283.jpg

...we'll see if she's any good in Smokin' Aces.

[Spider-Fan83]

claire is actually my choice for vicky vale as vicky, ya sure that could work, for me


ok how bout this,really unconventional and i know people like her for harley but fairuza balk,i dont know why lol but i like her,probably cuz im into the goth stuff
not personally in to the idea of a goth catwoman (though, any chick who weara that much leather, would have to be a lil goth lol)

[batboy99]

No Not For A Nolan Movie No,its Just Some Weird Fantasy Of Mine Lol

[batboy99]

bump
well if she was just a bit younger she would definatly be my #1 choice for catwoman
gina gershon (the voice of catwoman in TB)
http://www.maximonline.com/girls/gina_gershon/gina-gershon-gm_l1.jpg
Too bad shes 44

[jeaniebaby001]

JESSICA BIEL!!!

http://www.justjared.com/images/2006/08/jessica-biel-asset.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1208/hotness3fe.jpghttp://img.actressarchives.com/images2/jessib/JessicaBielE_Cohen_11612090.jpg


JESSICA BIEL !

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[Nepenthes]

^ She's a better suggestion than most. Way better than goddamn Jolie, but

I'm still convinced that Charlize Theron is the ideal Catwoman. By far, she's perfect.

[batboy99]

no not jessica,sorry but no

[darknite17]

I would go with Biel any day for Catwoman/Selina. I think Christian and her would have sizzling chemistry together on screen. She is arguably the most beautiful actress in Hollywood today, her acting ability is at a good enough standard as well (Illusionist, Elizabeth Town, Blade3) and he is quite a handsome bloke too.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/256966~Jessica-Biel-Posters.jpghttp://www.lostzilla.net/varios/catwoman.jpg
http://www.danceage.com/gossip/uploaded_images/Jessica%20Biel3-755576.jpghttp://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/man-pays-30000-for-date-with-jessica-biel-0V2.jpg

[Two-Face]

^ She's a better suggestion than most. Way better than goddamn Jolie, but

I'm still convinced that Charlize Theron is the ideal Catwoman. By far, she's perfect.



Haha!! that's so funny:woot:

Though Biel isn't a bad choice but no way she's better than Jolie.

[DorkyFresh]

i'm starting to see trends on these boards...

...first it was popular to want Jolie for Catwoman, but now it's the popular to hate on her. wtf is up? why's there so much negativity for Jolie other than her popularity? is she a bad actress? is she ugly?

if she weren't as popular as she is now would you guys still not like her?

[millennium movies]

People are dumb sometimes, they cant stick with their opinions, they have to change cause the majority is changing...

[Nepenthes]

i'm starting to see trends on these boards...

...first it was popular to want Jolie for Catwoman, but now it's the popular to hate on her. wtf is up? why's there so much negativity for Jolie other than her popularity? is she a bad actress? is she ugly?

if she weren't as popular as she is now would you guys still not like her?

I was against her from the moment I heard the idea suggestion. It's not really 'trend' it's just that people are considering it more wisely now. She's is an obvious suggestion that falls apart if you think on in for bit.

[Crooklyn]

"You have to think about it real close. Then you will see how wrong you are. Look inside your heart, for you know it to be true."

I love it. :dry: :up:

[batboy99]

i think jolies good

[DorkyFresh]

I was against her from the moment I heard the idea suggestion.
fair enough.

She's is an obvious suggestion that falls apart if you think on in for bit.
not to me. i think about Jolie as Catwoman and all i see is her owning the role and playing it with ease. she already has action experience from Tomb Raider, we all know she can do sexy, and we all know she can do twisted.

i most of us basically want the comic movies to be as close as the comics as possible without coming off as corny and Jolie is an actress that not only looks like the character, is the right age, can play this part with ease, and even has the nickname "Catwoman"! just slap some leather on her and give her a whip!

[batboy99]

:up::up:

[ronzpeed]

why is there a discussion about catwoman if we don't even know if she's even gonna be in the trilogy?

[batboy99]

because its a CATWOMAN thread

[DorkyFresh]

why is there a discussion about catwoman if we don't even know if she's even gonna be in the trilogy?

why NOT? there was a discussion on Peguin and Riddler...why not Catwoman?

[batboy99]

exactly!

[Nepenthes]

"You have to think about it real close. Then you will see how wrong you are. Look inside your heart, for you know it to be true."

I love it. :dry: :up:

Too bad that's not what I said

[Arkard]

OK, I am gonna pretend that this is still an actual thread and nominate my top actress for the role. Drums please *drums*. Ladies in bikins *walk in*. The envelope please!
And the nominee is... Jolene Blalock.
Here is why:
http://www.hytti.uku.fi/~vaisala/GALLERY/Jolene%20Blalock.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f44/sevenweblog3/Jolene_Blalock.jpg

[sassycat]

I find that Jolie has too much presence now like Tom Cruise. I wouldn't be seeing Catwoman played by Jolie I'be seeing JOLIE in a movie wearing a catsuit :(

[Crooklyn]

Too bad that's not what I said
What *did* you say then?

I find that Jolie has too much presence now like Tom Cruise. I wouldn't be seeing Catwoman played by Jolie I'be seeing JOLIE in a movie wearing a catsuit :(
I personally think Cruise is a nutjob right now, but I always appreciate his performances in his roles. I don't get why people can't separate the celebrity lives from the film personalities. Sounds like a trouble that needs to solved by the person themselves, rather than the actors.

[DorkyFresh]

I find that Jolie has too much presence now like Tom Cruise. I wouldn't be seeing Catwoman played by Jolie I'be seeing JOLIE in a movie wearing a catsuit :(

if she weren't so popular (think before Tomb Raider)...would you want to see her as Catwoman?

[Two-Face]

Jolie is nothing Cruise... get that out from your little brain....

[DorkyFresh]

I don't get why people can't separate the celebrity lives from the film personalities. Sounds like a trouble that needs to solved by the person themselves, rather than the actors.

exactly. we all know who Morgan Freeman, Christian Bale, and Gary Oldman are and what they look like...yet they vanish into their roles once they're on the screen. Angelina may have features that stick out and too much popularity but that hasn't prevented me from believing that she IS the part that she's playing.

[Brian2887]

Emmanuelle Chriqui. She's approaching 30, beautiful, and unknown enough to disappear into the role. She's been in several movies and tv shows, but she hasn't had that one break-out role yet. You may know her as Sloan from Entourage, or from Wrong Turn, Waiting, Adam and Eve, and The Crow: Wicked Prayer. Catwoman is the break-out role this girl needs, and she could absolutely kill it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/emmanuelle.jpg



Another actress who'd do well is Eliza Dushku. She's gorgeous, and she knows how to play a tough girl. She was the star of Tru Calling, and played Faith on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She was also in such movies as Bring It On, City By The Sea, and The New Guy.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/eliza.jpg

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

She has the attitude but I just don't see her as Catwoman, or in that case for Selina, but I'm really open to seeing actors work in a role completely different from anything they've ever done before, especially if they are good. So if Nolan chooses her ... and she's good...:up:

[Crooklyn]

Those are girls. The role calls for a WOMAN. :huh:

[DorkyFresh]

Eliza's hot but she doesn't have the look imo. her face is too "cute". not "sexy" enough.

[DorkyFresh]

i thought she looked too tomboyish but i take that back. i think she looks too "cute". Catwoman needs a face like Beckinsale's, Rosario's, Mendez's, Longoria's, etc. Catwoman has a SEXY face...not a cute face.

[Arkard]

Jolene Blalock

[killingyouguy]

Posted this in the larger Catwoman thread over in the sequels section, thought I'd post it here for those who don't check that thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkuselina.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkuselina2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkucatwoman2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/selinabruce.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman10.jpg

Been watching some of Season 3 of Buffy again (paying close attention to Eliza's scenes) and I'm even more convinced she's perfect for Selina Kyle. Granted you have to look past the teenage dialogue (which isn't her fault) but the character of Faith shares many of the personality traits of Selina Kyle. Tough, sassy, seductive, damaged, crazy and the same 'hot then cold' personality. Some points for:

1. Has already proven (IMO) she can pull off the role with ease. (SEE ABOVE)
2. Looks the part. (SEE MY POSTS ABOVE)
3. Not a big name. Doesn't come with a lot of baggage and can lose herself in the role. Which I doubt, for example, someone like Angelina Jolie could do. Also being lesser known means she commands a smaller paycheck (always gotta think of the bottam line!).
4. Similar tier of actor as Murphy, Eckhart & Ledger IMO. Granted female lead roles are much harder to come by, but she has just nabbed one in The Alphabet Killer. She's a seasoned young actress who is getting lots of work, especially recently (stars in 5 or 6 movies coming out this year). Would probably have been in as many movies as Maggie Gyllenhaal except Eliza's time for a while was taken up by her own TV series (!). Since Buffy & Dawson's Creek ended (same year) Eliza has been in around twice as many movies (not including her own series as well) as Katie Holmes, who was considered a good enough actor by Nolan (and who's main problem, I feel, was that everyone only saw Tom Cruise when watching her). Eliza is much better than Katie Holmes.

So, IMO, that adds up to her being the ideal choice for Selina Kyle/Catwoman in any future Batman movie. The only thing I can see in the "cons" category is her lack of experience in more mature roles (not including horror movies). But she's already taken on her (IMO) first real mature role in The Alphabet Killer plus she has a lot of movies on her plate this year (many of which she is a lead) and who knows what in between now and when they decide to have Selina Kyle in a Batman movie (if at all). Plus I think she would benefit under Nolan.

Dont' get me wrong, I'm not some huge fan of Eliza who goes around touting her as a candidate for every role (like the Joaquin Phoenix fans out there). I've seen her work (especially Buffy, which I was a fan of) but like all the people I've backed as candidates for roles, I'm not a "huge" fan (I don't visit fan sites, mailing lists, etc.) of any of them. But I do like their work and think they're ideal for these characters (taking into account the more realisic feel of the new Batman movies). Out of all the actresses (and I like most of them) in the poll of this thread I can only see 4 being possible candidates for Selina Kyle; Dushku, Theron, Jolie & Beckinsale. And that's my order of preference.

Beckinsale has somewhat of the look (but less so than the other 3). But I can't see her pulling off the more crazy/damaged parts of Selina's character. There's a big difference between Click, Van Helsing & Underworld and Batman Begins.

Jolie looks the part and would probably get it if this was a Joel Schumacher Batman movie. But this isn't the over the top, get the biggest star (at the moment)that looks that part (or doesn't), movies of the 90's. And for me, no matter what role she is in all I see is Angelina Jolie. I can't just see the character she is playing. Which is something similar to what happened with Katie Holmes and which I think Nolan would like to avoid repeating.

Theron is my choice if they want/have to go "big name". She is a quality actress who could easily act the part (although I haven't seen many 'Selina' qualities in any character I've seen her portray). She doesn't look like Selina IMO, but I do see bits of Michelle Pfeiffer when I look at her. If I can't have Eliza she'd be my choice but I'd feel something was missing (and I want them to get it right in these movies, they're probably not going to reinvent the series again).

As for Eliza...

All I know is that when I see Selina Kyle in the comics, or Eliza on screen, they're the same. That's gotta be some sorta a sign or something!

KYG

Credit to Majik1387 & myself for the manips.

[killingyouguy]

And here are some manips I made of Eliza as Catwoman, for those who may not have seen them from other threads. :oldrazz: :cwink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/elizacatwoman3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/elizacatwoman2.jpg

Meow! :up:

Credit to me for the manips.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

As I said, I'm all for it -if she's good...but I still don't see her as Selina.

I guess as Catwoman, she's sleazy enough to do it from what I've seen of her as Faith, but I still dunno. that comic image was just luck :o :p

[killingyouguy]

that comic image was just luck :o :p

Luck? More like an hour's work in PS (but I'm proud of it). :oldrazz:

You do know that's a manip and not just an image of Catwoman that happened to look like Eliza right?

[green]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/angelina_jolie_07.jpg

Jolie as Catwoman is as obvious a choice as Bale as Batman to me.
Just make her believe she's Falcones daughter, it makes it really easy to introduce her into Nolans vision.

[Crooklyn]

You know for once I'd like to see an actual woman do justice to a female role. Too many young actresses here that were simply hot within the past 5 years. CatWOMAN people.

[Miranda Fox]

You know for once I'd like to see an actual woman do justice to a female role. Too many young actresses here that were simply hot within the past 5 years. CatWOMAN people.

Listen to the man. :up:

[Crooklyn]

My top 3:

Jolie

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Dymes/af2c4f5e.jpg

Theron

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Dymes/e9c246cd.jpg

Moynahan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Dymes/235c0b55.jpg

I'd be fine with either. All 3 have the skills to pull off the role with relative ease, and all 3 can pull off the sexy, but elegant beauty that Selina should possess. Plus the bad-girl attitude. And oh yeah.....these are WOMEN. :p :up:

[Macphisto]

Eliza is the reason why I stopped watching Buffy all those years ago (luckily, I got back into it during the masterpiece that was season 5 :woot: ). She tries so desperately to act cool but comes across forced and wooden. I really can't stand the girl. She seems like the type who would fart in the tub and laugh at the bubbles.

If Selina is indeed in the flick (who are we kidding?), let's hope Nolan casts someone who has an otherworldly beauty to them and bags of charm and charisma. More to the point, let it be a real woman.

[batboy99]

Posted this in the larger Catwoman thread over in the sequels section, thought I'd post it here for those who don't check that thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkuselina.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkuselina2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/dushkucatwoman2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/selinabruce.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman10.jpg

Been watching some of Season 3 of Buffy again (paying close attention to Eliza's scenes) and I'm even more convinced she's perfect for Selina Kyle. Granted you have to look past the teenage dialogue (which isn't her fault) but the character of Faith shares many of the personality traits of Selina Kyle. Tough, sassy, seductive, damaged, crazy and the same 'hot then cold' personality. Some points for:

1. Has already proven (IMO) she can pull off the role with ease. (SEE ABOVE)
2. Looks the part. (SEE MY POSTS ABOVE)
3. Not a big name. Doesn't come with a lot of baggage and can lose herself in the role. Which I doubt, for example, someone like Angelina Jolie could do. Also being lesser known means she commands a smaller paycheck (always gotta think of the bottam line!).
4. Similar tier of actor as Murphy, Eckhart & Ledger IMO. Granted female lead roles are much harder to come by, but she has just nabbed one in The Alphabet Killer. She's a seasoned young actress who is getting lots of work, especially recently (stars in 5 or 6 movies coming out this year). Would probably have been in as many movies as Maggie Gyllenhaal except Eliza's time for a while was taken up by her own TV series (!). Since Buffy & Dawson's Creek ended (same year) Eliza has been in around twice as many movies (not including her own series as well) as Katie Holmes, who was considered a good enough actor by Nolan (and who's main problem, I feel, was that everyone only saw Tom Cruise when watching her). Eliza is much better than Katie Holmes.

So, IMO, that adds up to her being the ideal choice for Selina Kyle/Catwoman in any future Batman movie. The only thing I can see in the "cons" category is her lack of experience in more mature roles (not including horror movies). But she's already taken on her (IMO) first real mature role in The Alphabet Killer plus she has a lot of movies on her plate this year (many of which she is a lead) and who knows what in between now and when they decide to have Selina Kyle in a Batman movie (if at all). Plus I think she would benefit under Nolan.

Dont' get me wrong, I'm not some huge fan of Eliza who goes around touting her as a candidate for every role (like the Joaquin Phoenix fans out there). I've seen her work (especially Buffy, which I was a fan of) but like all the people I've backed as candidates for roles, I'm not a "huge" fan (I don't visit fan sites, mailing lists, etc.) of any of them. But I do like their work and think they're ideal for these characters (taking into account the more realisic feel of the new Batman movies). Out of all the actresses (and I like most of them) in the poll of this thread I can only see 4 being possible candidates for Selina Kyle; Dushku, Theron, Jolie & Beckinsale. And that's my order of preference.

Beckinsale has somewhat of the look (but less so than the other 3). But I can't see her pulling off the more crazy/damaged parts of Selina's character. There's a big difference between Click, Van Helsing & Underworld and Batman Begins.

Jolie looks the part and would probably get it if this was a Joel Schumacher Batman movie. But this isn't the over the top, get the biggest star (at the moment)that looks that part (or doesn't), movies of the 90's. And for me, no matter what role she is in all I see is Angelina Jolie. I can't just see the character she is playing. Which is something similar to what happened with Katie Holmes and which I think Nolan would like to avoid repeating.

Theron is my choice if they want/have to go "big name". She is a quality actress who could easily act the part (although I haven't seen many 'Selina' qualities in any character I've seen her portray). She doesn't look like Selina IMO, but I do see bits of Michelle Pfeiffer when I look at her. If I can't have Eliza she'd be my choice but I'd feel something was missing (and I want them to get it right in these movies, they're probably not going to reinvent the series again).

As for Eliza...

All I know is that when I see Selina Kyle in the comics, or Eliza on screen, they're the same. That's gotta be some sorta a sign or something!

KYG

Credit to Majik1387 & myself for the manips.i dont know why people dont say shes sexy,she would be an awesome selina and an even better catwoman

[DorkyFresh]

once again...when i look at Eliza, i don't think "omg, i wanna kcuf her brains out!" i think "aw, she's a cutie." Catwoman needs to be played by a woman who LOOKS like a woman. a woman with sexy facial features. Eliza's face isn't sexy...it's cute. her eyes aren't cat-like....they're droopy (ala Katie Holmes).

not to mention...she'd be acting amongst the likes of academy award winners and nominees, something she hasn't done before. do you really think she could hold her own amongst the likes of Bale, Eckhart, and Ledger? her biggest movie so far is either True Lies or Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back....she has very little acting cred.

i'm looking at her filmography right now and she hasn't done anything worth noting for a while. she's a cute chick, but it's pretty apparent that she was a 'flavor of the month' type actress that got her fame through teen movies and shows. i use the word "was" because she's been out of the spotlight for a while...

[killingyouguy]

Jolie as Catwoman is as obvious a choice as Bale as Batman to me.

Jolie is everyone's first immediate thought. But put any thinking into it and she can't be. Personally, I can't see the character past Jolie. Instead of coming out thinking about how the characters came off, they'll come thinking how the actor came off doing the character. You don't see Catwoman, you see Jolie as Catwoman.

Eliza is the reason why I stopped watching Buffy all those years ago (luckily, I got back into it during the masterpiece that was season 5 :woot: ).

Oh please, Buffy sucked after Season 3. A bunch of one-off villains each season, no overriding storylines, making Spike Angel Version 2.0, having Buffy **** someone every episode to make the series seem grown up, make Willow a lesbian, etc. Knowing how the series ended up is what makes it hard to watch my DVD's of the first 3 seasons.

once again...when i look at Eliza, i don't think "omg, i wanna kcuf her brains out!" i think "aw, she's a cutie." Catwoman needs to be played by a woman who LOOKS like a woman. a woman with sexy facial features. Eliza's face isn't sexy...it's cute. her eyes aren't cat-like....they're droopy (ala Katie Holmes).

I diagree. I would love to **** he brains out. And people had similar complaints about Ledger as The Joker.

not to mention...she'd be acting amongst the likes of academy award winners and nominees, something she hasn't done before. do you really think she could hold her own amongst the likes of Bale, Eckhart, and Ledger? her biggest movie so far is either True Lies or Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back....she has very little acting cred.

i'm looking at her filmography right now and she hasn't done anything worth noting for a while. she's a cute chick, but it's pretty apparent that she was a 'flavor of the month' type actress that got her fame through teen movies and shows. i use the word "was" because she's been out of the spotlight for a while...

"Flavor of the month?" It must have be a long month. She has 5-6 movies coming out this year. Most of which she is a lead (or THE lead). In Nobel Son she stars alongside the likes of Alan Rickman & Danny DeVito. In that film she plays an escaped mental patient. In The Alphabet Killler (based on the real life double initial killings in Rochester, NY) she gets top billing over the likes of Cary Elwes & Michael Ironside. She plays the obsessed lead investigator into the crimes who begins to see visions of the victims, which push her over the edge. Eventually being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and committed. You can read more here: http://www.alphabetkiller.com/

I don't see her being a "flavor of the month". Considering the sheer amount of movies she is in this year, the majority of which she is lead or leading actor, the increasing quality of the actors she is with & the increased maturity of the films/roles. I'd say her star is on the rise. I would assume Catwoman won't be cast for a few movies yet, that gives her about 5-8 years of roles to get even better. Coincidently, that would also put her in her early/mid-30's, more of a woman for those who have a problem.

KYG

EDIT: Food for thought, Michelle Pfeiffer was/is 7 years younger than Michael Keaton. Eliza Dushku is 6 years younger than Christian Bale.

[jeaniebaby001]

I would go with Biel any day for Catwoman/Selina. I think Christian and her would have sizzling chemistry together on screen. She is arguably the most beautiful actress in Hollywood today, her acting ability is at a good enough standard as well (Illusionist, Elizabeth Town, Blade3) and he is quite a handsome bloke too.


Christian Bale deserves to have Jessica Biel as his Catwoman lady...

[Crooklyn]

Jolie is everyone's first immediate thought. But put any thinking into it and she can't be. Personally, I can't see the character past Jolie. Instead of coming out thinking about how the characters came off, they'll come thinking how the actor came off doing the character. You don't see Catwoman, you see Jolie as Catwoman.
Personally. Keyword.

CLEARLY that is something you need to work on. If someone can't see past the actor's personal life, that's their fault.

Considering the sheer amount of movies she is in this year, the majority of which she is lead or leading actor, the increasing quality of the actors she is with & the increased maturity of the films/roles. I'd say her star is on the rise.
Sounds like an infomercial. :o

[jeaniebaby001]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/hearfield/Batman%20stuff/catwoman10.jpg

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[killingyouguy]

Personally. Keyword.

CLEARLY that is something you need to work on. If someone can't see past the actor's personal life, that's their fault.


Sounds like an infomercial. :o

:whatever:

[Crooklyn]

Well thought-out. :o :up:

[killingyouguy]

Well thought-out. :o :up:

You're not worth much more than that smilie.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

gentleman..why the negativity..

there really is no need.

[killingyouguy]

I don't enjoy being flamed.

[Rainer7]

My top 2 choices are Rosario and Biel.

[Crooklyn]

I don't enjoy being flamed.
:huh:

I was responding to you. It wasn't a flame in the least.

[killingyouguy]

Sounds like an infomercial. :o

"A flame is typically not intended to be constructive, to further clarify a discussion, or to persuade other people... Occasionally, flamers wish to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case they are trolls."

My reply of :whatever: was in accordance to your above comment. It sounds nothing like an infomercial and you were just trying to wind me up. And I didn't bother replying about not seeing past Angelina because I'm not the only one and it's been discussed numerous times on these boards. :dry:

[Crooklyn]

"A flame is typically not intended to be constructive, to further clarify a discussion, or to persuade other people... Occasionally, flamers wish to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case they are trolls."

My reply of :whatever: was in accordance to your above comment.
I clearly put a smiley to ensure I got the point across that it was said in jest. Not my fault you took it to heart. :huh:

It sounds nothing like an infomercial and you were just trying to wind me up.
It does sound like an infomercial because it seemed what you said was a huge stretch, considering how long Eliza's been off the radar.

And I didn't bother replying about not seeing past Angelina because I'm not the only and it's been discussed numerous times on these boards. :dry:
I never said you were the only one. I mentioned it before, as I said that's something that rests on the viewer. If people can't separate life and fantasy, then it's something that shouldn't be held against the actor.

[WorthyStevens]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7565/chards8.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7004/selinakw7.png

[batboy99]

wow :D

[killingyouguy]

I clearly put a smiley to ensure I got the point across that it was said in jest. Not my fault you took it to heart. :huh:

You seem to put a smiley with everything. Is everything you say not to be taken seriously?

It does sound like an infomercial because it seemed what you said was a huge stretch, considering how long Eliza's been off the radar.

Huge stretch? It's all fact. The amount of movies out this year, the fact she is in a leading role in most of them, the increasing quality of actors & maturity of the roles. It's not a "huge stretch", I'm just stating fact. And seeing as these are increasing, and not decreasing, my comment about her "star on the rise" is valid. It certaintly is not wanning. And she's been off your radar. I've known much more about her career than the likes of Eckhart or Gyllenhaal (not that I have anything against them).

I never said you were the only one. I mentioned it before, as I said that's something that rests on the viewer. If people can't separate life and fantasy, then it's something that shouldn't be held against the actor.

And I don't hold it against Jolie, at least not personally. It's a problem with celebritism. There are celebrities that are so much in the spotlight, like Cruise, Holmes, Pitt, Jolie, for example, that many people have a problem seeing past them to the character they're supposed to portray. Which is fine if you're doing popcorn movies like Tomb Raider, Mission Impossible or Ocean's Eleven. For movies like that it can actually be a benefit to have these "stars". But if you're doing a movie where the characters and their portrayal are what is important, then IMO you should avoid these types of actors. Which I think was one of the problems people had with Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. I didn't have that problem with her, I could see past her to Rachel. But I believe I would have problems with Jolie, especially since Catwoman is such an important character.

[jeaniebaby001]

um...

[killingyouguy]

Why are people posting these ****ty pictures? Are we allowed to do that? :whatever: :whatever: :huh:

Jenna Jameson for Catwoman anyone? :cwink:

[Crooklyn]

You seem to put a smiley with everything. Is everything you say not to be taken seriously?
Anything with a :o :oldrazz: :ninja:

Huge stretch? It's all fact. The amount of movies out this year, the fact she is in a leading role in most of them, the increasing quality of actors & maturity of the roles. It's not a "huge stretch", I'm just stating fact. And seeing as these are increasing, and not decreasing, my comment about her "star on the rise" is valid. It certaintly is not wanning. And she's been off your radar. I've known much more about her career than the likes of Eckhart or Gyllenhaal (not that I have anything against them).
Fine, she's off my radar. But I think I'm not the only one. Eckhart and Gyllenhaal's films have reached some sort of public spotlight moreso than Eliza imo, which is why I made that comment in the first place.

And I don't hold it against Jolie, at least not personally. It's a problem with celebritism. There are celebrities that are so much in the spotlight, like Cruise, Holmes, Pitt, Jolie, for example, that many people have a problem seeing past them to the character they're supposed to portray. Which is fine if you're doing popcorn movies like Tomb Raider, Mission Impossible or Ocean's Eleven. For movies like that it can actually be a benefit to have these "stars". But if you're doing a movie where the characters and their portrayal are what is important, then IMO you should avoid these types of actors. Which I think was one of the problems people had with Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. I didn't have that problem with her, I could see past her to Rachel. But I believe I would have problems with Jolie, especially since Catwoman is such an important character.
I don't have that problem with Jolie because she already does remind me much of Catwoman as her public self already. If anything, that's probably her detriment to this role, it wouldn't be too much of a difficult job for her to pull it off.

[WorthyStevens]

Why are people posting these ****ty pictures? Are we allowed to do that? :whatever: :whatever: :huh:

Because I'm suggesting her for Catwoman, and wanted to show that she could pull off Selina's sexiness. :huh:

[jeaniebaby001]

I see. I think you can tell if a woman is sexy even if she's wearing real clothes... like Ms. Biel in the previous page. :whatever: :woot:

****ty pics with too much skin are too desperate-looking..

BTW, can somebody do a manip of Jessica Biel in the catwoman mask or costume? I'm curious...

[DorkyFresh]

I diagree. I would love to **** he brains out.
you would? dang, i never would'a guessed!

And people had similar complaints about Ledger as The Joker.
um...and what does this have to do with Joker? while i think Ledger will do a fine job...he wasn't who i thought of when i thought of Joker.

She has 5-6 movies coming out this year. Most of which she is a lead (or THE lead). In Nobel Son she stars alongside the likes of Alan Rickman & Danny DeVito. In The Alphabet Killler (based on the real life double initial killings in Rochester, NY) she gets top billing over the likes of Cary Elwes & Michael Ironside.

I don't see her being a "flavor of the month". Considering the sheer amount of movies she is in this year, the majority of which she is lead or leading actor, the increasing quality of the actors she is with & the increased maturity of the films/roles.

wow, 6 movies? that's a lot but you know what they say. it's not about quantity, it's about quality. she may have 6 movies coming out but 1 of them is a horror with surfers, another is a comedy, and i could make a list of great actors and actresses Jolie has already worked with. one of which was Matt Damon who was offered the role of Harvey Dent.

Dushku is starting to climb, i'll give her that and she might be able to one day become a good actress...but as of right now Dushku still needs to prove herself as a serious actress. Jolie has done that already.

Food for thought, Michelle Pfeiffer was/is 7 years younger than Michael Keaton. Eliza Dushku is 6 years younger than Christian Bale.
well...ya got me there!!!



except that Nolan is trying to make his Bat-universe extremely different from Burton's...so it'd be more fitting to, instead of copy Burton and cast an actress that's over 5 years younger than the actor who's playing Batman, rather get an actress who's around the same age. Jolie was born the year before Bale...:cwink: :p

[DorkyFresh]

And I don't hold it against Jolie, at least not personally. It's a problem with celebritism. There are celebrities that are so much in the spotlight, like Cruise, Holmes, Pitt, Jolie, for example, that many people have a problem seeing past them to the character they're supposed to portray. Which is fine if you're doing popcorn movies like Tomb Raider, Mission Impossible or Ocean's Eleven. For movies like that it can actually be a benefit to have these "stars". But if you're doing a movie where the characters and their portrayal are what is important, then IMO you should avoid these types of actors. Which I think was one of the problems people had with Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. I didn't have that problem with her, I could see past her to Rachel. But I believe I would have problems with Jolie, especially since Catwoman is such an important character.

if you think her popularity as a celebrity would hurt her chances at Catwoman, what you do think about Dushku's popularity as a horror queen? Soul Survivors, Angel, Buffy, and now Open Graves. in essence it's the same problem with Jolie...they're both attached to an image that many folks might not be able to see past. Tom Cruise's popularity hurt M:I3 because he chose to make a fool of himself on Oprah and he was the LEAD in that movie. people knew that, in order to watch that movie, they'd have to watch 2 hours of Tom Cruise acting like Tom Cruise. on the other hand, Jolie stealing Aniston's man might not be looked up upon but she doesn't act dumb in public like Cruise did. that and she wouldn't be playing the lead role and she wouldn't be playing "Angelina Jolie".

[killingyouguy]

Dushku is starting to climb, i'll give her that and she might be able to one day become a good actress...but as of right now Dushku still needs to prove herself as a serious actress. Jolie has done that already.

She is starting to prove herself now. And I don't see Catwoman being cast in TDK or the following movie. It will be in one of the later ones (if they make more) which will, like I said, at least be 7 years down the track (if they keep the current gaps between films). 7 years ago Jolie, Theron, etc. weren't big names either. You've got to have perspective. :ninja:

except that Nolan is trying to make his Bat-universe extremely different from Burton's...so it'd be more fitting to, instead of copy Burton and cast an actress that's over 5 years younger than the actor who's playing Batman, rather get an actress who's around the same age. Jolie was born the year before Bale...:cwink: :p

My point was that people accepted Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman as a love interest for Keaton's Batman. No one thought she was too young. And I don't think (if Catwoman is brought in, say 7 years down the line) that there would be anything wrong with a 40 year old Batman and a 34 year old Catwoman. :bat: :meow:

[DorkyFresh]

She is starting to prove herself now. And I don't see Catwoman being cast in TDK or the following movie. It will be in one of the later ones (if they make more) which will, like I said, at least be 7 years down the track (if they keep the current gaps between films). 7 years ago Jolie, Theron, etc. weren't big names either. You've got to have perspective. :ninja:
you don't KNOW that Catwoman/Selina Kyle WON'T be cast in the next one for certain. that's speculation which proves nothing. she IS starting to get better roles...but just because she's a rising star doesn't mean that she's the best actress to play Catwoman. there are many rising actresses that aren't fit to play the vigilante based on a feline.

My point was that people accepted Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman as a love interest for Keaton's Batman. No one thought she was too young. And I don't think (if Catwoman is brought in, say 7 years down the line) that there would be anything wrong with a 40 year old Batman and a 34 year old Catwoman. :bat: :meow:
and i'm trying to say that if Nolan wants to set his vision apart from Burton's then he'd be better off casting an actress around the same age as Bale. also...saying that Catwoman MIGHT be introduced when Eliza is the right age is just reaching for reasons for Eliza to be Catwoman as opposed to just looking for the best actress.

[killingyouguy]

if you think her popularity as a celebrity would hurt her chances at Catwoman, what you do think about Dushku's popularity as a horror queen? Soul Survivors, Angel, Buffy, and now Open Graves. in essence it's the same problem with Jolie...they're both attached to an image that many folks might not be able to see past.

Dushku isn't as big a celebrity as Jolie. And I don't see her as a horror queen, but Jamie Lee Curtis had a similar title and I didn't experience any problems seeing her in other roles.

Tom Cruise's popularity hurt M:I3 because he chose to make a fool of himself on Oprah and he was the LEAD in that movie. people knew that, in order to watch that movie, they'd have to watch 2 hours of Tom Cruise acting like Tom Cruise. on the other hand, Jolie stealing Aniston's man might not be looked up upon but she doesn't act dumb in public like Cruise did. that and she wouldn't be playing the lead role and she wouldn't be playing "Angelina Jolie".

For me Jolie couldn't even "become" Lara Croft. And that was before she took Brad Pitt. People would be going to see Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman the character. And they would be coming out talking about Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman character.

She has over-exaggerated features like the comic book and could give a comic book performance but this isn't the Schumacher/Burton movies. So many people's casting suggestions (not just for Catwoman) are based on who looks the most like the comic book character. And if you're going to base your picks on that, then you're almost definately going to be disappointed when the role is cast.

If the role was being cast right now and you wanted someone with a good mix of "star power" and ability to become the character I'd suggest Charlize Theron.

[Crooklyn]

People would be going to see Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman the character. And they would be coming out talking about Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman character.
Wow, didn't realize Ms. Cleo resided in these parts.

She has over-exaggerated features like the comic book
Now that's a stretch. Aside from her lips, there's nothing about her that's exaggerated.

and could give a comic book performance but this isn't the Schumacher/Burton movies.
What are these assumptions based off of? Seriously, a lot of these (and I'm not just referring to you) arguments don't even have any validity since part of it is made-up conceptions that tilt things into their favor.

[killingyouguy]

you don't KNOW that Catwoman/Selina Kyle WON'T be cast in the next one for certain. that's speculation which proves nothing. she IS starting to get better roles...but just because she's a rising star doesn't mean that she's the best actress to play Catwoman. there are many rising actresses that aren't fit to play the vigilante based on a feline.

I never stated I KNOW that Catwoman won't be in the next one, it's my opinion. There has been no suggestion she will be in TDK. It's possible she could be in the one following if it's a trilogy then we would barely get a backstory. The character would feel unfullfilled, IMO. I consider these Batman movies to be a large story told over multiple 'acts' rather than the one-off storylines of the past.


and i'm trying to say that if Nolan wants to set his vision apart from Burton's then he'd be better off casting an actress around the same age as Bale.

Who is to say that the actors have to be the same age for the characters to look the same age? When I saw Batman Returns I thought Pfeiffer and Keaton WERE the same age. I don't think people are going to see casting same age actors as 'going a different route'.

also...saying that Catwoman MIGHT be introduced when Eliza is the right age is just reaching for reasons for Eliza to be Catwoman as opposed to just looking for the best actress.

I've already stated numerous reasons in my first post in this thread why I think she is MY CHOICE. And I happen to think she is the right age now. I just thought for the people that seem to think she is young to consider that Catwoman will probably be introduced 1-2 movies after TDK and people age. Not that her age, when Catwoman MIGHT be introduced, is the single reason to cast her. :whatever:

She is my choice (well not just mine). Nothing more, nothing less. :yay:

[killingyouguy]

Wow, didn't realize Ms. Cleo resided in these parts.

I know people. :o

Now that's a stretch. Aside from her lips, there's nothing about her that's exaggerated.

Her head, her eyes, her lips, she looks like a comic book character brought to life. Granted, an attractive one. :oldrazz:

What are these assumptions based off of? Seriously, a lot of these (and I'm not just referring to you) arguments don't even have any validity since part of it is made-up conceptions that tilt things into their favor.

"Made-up conceptions"? I'm just going off every performance I've seen of Angelina Jolie. :dry:

[DorkyFresh]

And I don't see her as a horror queen, but Jamie Lee Curtis had a similar title and I didn't experience any problems seeing her in other roles.
you don't consider her a horror queen, but she keeps doing projects geared towards horror which is close to being typecasted.

For me Jolie couldn't even "become" Lara Croft.
the Tomb Raider movies weren't exactly made to win Oscars. there was no need to spend that much time on making an actress act like a video game character that doesn't have much mythology behind her. i could make the same argument that Dushku doesn't become the character she plays because i haven't seen her in any movies that require much deep acting.

People would be going to see Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman the character. And they would be coming out talking about Jolie as Catwoman, not Catwoman character.
you have the ability to predict possible futures really well!


not!

She has over-exaggerated features like the comic book and could give a comic book performance but this isn't the Schumacher/Burton movies. So many people's casting suggestions (not just for Catwoman) are based on who looks the most like the comic book character. And if you're going to base your picks on that, then you're almost definately going to be disappointed when the role is cast.
but earlier you were trying to show how Dushku looks just like Catwoman. are you trying to suggest that we SHOULDN'T base the actor on the way the character looks in the comics? why not get as close as possible? Christian Bale is the closest thing to Batman/Bruce Wayne, looks wise, that there's ever been and Gary Oldman looks uncannily like Year One Gordon. what's wrong with getting an actor/actress that accurately looks like their comic counterpart?

If the role was being cast right now and you wanted someone with a good mix of "star power" and ability to become the character I'd suggest Charlize Theron.
she's my third choice. my second choice would be Rosario Dawson.

[Damiean Dark]

The only woman to play Catwoman/kyle for me is angelino jolie she as the sexiness (especially in those amazing eyes) and is a good actress (girl interupted is great) i would like her to portray her as a more forcefull personality like eartha kitt who was a far more physical catwoman then any done before.

[Damiean Dark]

And those llips.......

[Crooklyn]

are you trying to suggest that we SHOULDN'T base the actor on the way the character looks in the comics? why not get as close as possible? Christian Bale is the closest thing to Batman/Bruce Wayne, looks wise, that there's ever been and Gary Oldman looks uncannily like Year One Gordon. what's wrong with getting an actor/actress that accurately looks like their comic counterpart?
I agree here, but can't say the same for the Bale/Bruce comment. Physically, he's the closest. But out of all the actors, I'd say Adam West had the closest looking face to the comics.

[jeaniebaby001]

Just for fun, here is a suggestion for Talia al Ghul:

http://newsfoxx.de/afp/bilder/CPS.ADF64.050706134937.photo00.photo.default-329x512.jpghttp://www.mediaartsl.com/adjuntos/g_fichero_1153_20060207.jpg


Miss Caterina Murino, of Casino Royale fame :yay:

[Crooklyn]

What is it with suggesting latinas for a character that's of middle-eastern origin? :o

[DorkyFresh]

wow. couldn't think of a better Talia Al Ghul visually...

...can she act though? she didn't have much screentime in CR. great choice jeanie!

What is it with suggesting latinas for a character that's of middle-eastern origin? :o

she's italian, bro. besides...who cares, as long as her looks don't get in the way of her believability? i know plenty of Italians and Greeks that look middle eastern.

[Crooklyn]

Wasn't saying it was bad, I just found it funny. I'm guilty of it too, as I used to have CZJ as my top choice for Talia.

As for Murino, great look....but thick ass accent.

[jeaniebaby001]

um...

[killingyouguy]

you have the ability to predict possible futures really well!


not!

Thank you... wait a minute! :ninja:

but earlier you were trying to show how Dushku looks just like Catwoman. are you trying to suggest that we SHOULDN'T base the actor on the way the character looks in the comics? why not get as close as possible? Christian Bale is the closest thing to Batman/Bruce Wayne, looks wise, that there's ever been and Gary Oldman looks uncannily like Year One Gordon. what's wrong with getting an actor/actress that accurately looks like their comic counterpart?

I think Eliza is the real life Nolan version of the character. There is more to "character" than appearance. But she is what I would expect Selina Kyle to look like in a Nolan movie. It's sort of like how people want P.S.Hoffman as Penguin just because he looks a lot like the comic book character, where as I would prefer someone like Ian McShane because he could deliver the appearance & performance I would expect of the Penguin if he were "real".

Christian Bale doesn't look like Bruce in the comics (square head, jaw, etc.) IMO. But he is perfect as the a real life version of the character. Oldman (before they did him up) didn't really look like Gordon either. Caine doesn't look like the comic book Alfred, but he is a more realistic (& likeable) version of the character. Rarely are actors chosen who look the most like the comic book characters (hense the disappointment of C. Glover fans).

Let's just agree to disagree shall we. We can't keep this going 'til the character is cast (if at all). I want Eliza, you want Angelina. Let's just wait and see who gets over the finish line. Most likely we both lose. :cwink:

[Avernus]

Rachel McAdams for Selina Kyle..

[DorkyFresh]

Let's just agree to disagree shall we. We can't keep this going 'til the character is cast. I want Eliza, you want Angelina. Let's just wait and see who gets over the finish line. Most likely we both lose. :cwink:

i'll most certainly agree on that. :)

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

No Angelina...

[Avernus]

actually I was going to mention Eliza Dushku, but I was logged out and said screw it....

I love Eliza for this..but that's unrealistic I think.....

Rachel McAdams name was brought up before and I think she'd be perfect for selina...

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

She plays really sweet and caring characters (besides the one in Mean Girls...no match for Catwoman)...so you see I'm still a bit anxious about that choice.

I still say Rosario Dawson.

[Avernus]

I'd see Selina as a sweet girl in the Batman movies..but a slippery Catwoman who is almost independent in character...

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

that would make sense in keeping the alternate identities secret...plus that could add a multiple-personality disorder type thing to her character...that sounds like a real catwoman

[Ibn]

*sighs*

Rosario. I'm a broken record in this maternal penetrator.:whatever:

[Threshold]

Here are a few choices, most of them have shown up at one point or another as a suggestion for Selina...

Evangeline Lilly
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5608/evangelinelillyellept3.jpg

Nora Zehetner (of "Brick" and "Heroes")
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9906/brick1vu5.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3180/laynie06of8.jpg

Dagmara Domincyzk
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3571/24tiy5.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5585/pamela3sm8.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9992/24dks4.jpg

Just a couple of suggestions, some a little less mainstream than others. I think that Zehetner (who is extremely talented) is on the brink of stardom. Dominczyk is just the package deal: gorgeous, talented, and dangerous.

Lilly has shown through her work on LOST that she is extremely capable of portraying a physical character who is at best morally ambigous.

Thoughts?

[killingyouguy]

I personally don't like Evangeline, I just don't see her as Catwoman. But there are certainly worse choices out there. The second one looks cat-like but too cute. Could possibly make an ok Harley. I haven't seen much of Dominczyk's work but she is certainly attractive. :wow:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Lilly...not for Catwoman.
Nora...cute but not for Catwoman in my opinion
Dagmara...looks like SHaron Stone in the first pic but she might be alright. What has she been in, I've never heard of her before

[DorkyFresh]

my idea of what Jolie should look like if she were cast as Selina...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/collage.jpg

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Even though I said I want Rosario for Catwoman/Selina...I want a blonde Catwoman

[DorkyFresh]

so...you want Rosario to dye her hair blonde? :D




that'd be interesting...actually! haha

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

that may be interpreted that way...

maybe she would look good with blonde hair...

but she'd look good anyway as Selina/Catwoman

[Threshold]

I personally don't like Evangeline, I just don't see her as Catwoman. But there are certainly worse choices out there. The second one looks cat-like but too cute. Could possibly make an ok Harley. I haven't seen much of Dominczyk's work but she is certainly attractive. :wow:

Lilly...not for Catwoman.
Nora...cute but not for Catwoman in my opinion
Dagmara...looks like SHaron Stone in the first pic but she might be alright. What has she been in, I've never heard of her before

You know what? On second thought, I agree with you guys about Evangeline Lilly. She's good, but she's not Catwoman. Plus with LOST it'd be a joke to even think she'd have time for THE DARK KNIGHT.

Dagmara Domincyzk was Jim Cavieziel's wife in The Count of Monte Cristo. But that role doesn't really put her allure and viciousness on display. She had a short guest stint on 24 a few seasons ago as an assassin. She's also been in Kinsey, Trust the Man, Lonely Hearts, and Running With Scissors. She's 31 and is married to "Hard Candy" thesp Patrick Wilson.

Another actress who I think would do very well in the role of Catwoman/Selina Kyle is Sienna Miller. She's honestly on the cusp of superstardom due to her unfathomable hotness and shear talent. There's a reason Matthew Vaughn keeps putting her in his movies. She's sensational when paired with a great director... Christopher Nolan is as good as they get.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3589/miller1uh4.jpg

Thoughts?

[Damiean Dark]

sienna miller is another actress of very limited ability who grasped fame on the coattails of a former boyfreind in this case Jude law i admit she isnt bad looking but no way is she talented enough to be kyle/catwoman.

[batboy99]

so...you want Rosario to dye her hair blonde? :D




that'd be interesting...actually! haha
she has gone blonde before but i want a dark haired catwoman,i love the blonde catwoman and all but ive never actually seen a real dark haired catwoman(excluding the 60's,i wasnt around for that)
but if they go blonde,im going with scarlett other than that,eliza or dawson

[DorkyFresh]

if they go with a blonde i STILL want Jolie!!! haha

[batboy99]

no,i never liked jolie as a blonde,dark hair looks so much better on her

[Threshold]

Okay, okay... Third times the charm. After much deliberation (about 5 and a half minutes) I've narrowed it down to my top 3.

Isla Fisher
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5345/islafisherfhmdb6.jpg
After bursting into the public eye with a starmaking role in The Wedding Crashers, Isla Fisher is poised to become the next It Girl. All she needs is a diverse range of roles featured in both the indie scene as well as more mainstream fare. THE DARK KNIGHT or perhaps it's sequel would be an ideal career move for Mrs. Borat. Hell, she's already been featured in the rumor mill for an indisclosed role. She's got the ferocity, the charisma, and, boy oh boy, does she have the looks. She's a bit small, but they don't call it 'movie magic' for nothing.

Kate Winslet
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2513/katewinslet3ji6.jpg
While Winslet is a very unlikely candidate for the role, if you think about it, she has all the makings of a brilliant Catwoman. She's got boatloads of talent, fun as hell (check out her HYSTERICAL quest spot on Extras), GORGEOUS, and has the kind of background that would easily make her fit in with Nolan and his vision for Batman and his city.

and finally the dark horse candidate...Elizabeth Banks
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http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6926/xin28080324110214428674al0.jpg
Banks is a secret weapon. She's comic gold in The 40-Year-Old Virgin, Wet Hot American Summer, The Baxter, and Scrubs. She has fanboy cred with Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Slither, and the upcoming Spider-Man 3! But most of all, underneath all that charming and seductive flare is the beating heart of a tremendous artist. Go see Heights and see what she's really capable of.

She is honestly teetering on the brink of superstardom. I honestly think that there's going to be a role that is going to showcase every single one of her irresistable qualities and talents.

So, I hope that all makes up for the lackluster suggestions of Sienna Miller & Evangeline Lilly.

[batboy99]

no to fisher
winslet may be ok
banks is hot!but not catwoman,at least IMO

[DorkyFresh]

Winslet is the only one i'd consider. the other 2 haven't proven themselves as serious actresses.

[Threshold]

Winslet is the only one i'd consider. the other 2 haven't proven themselves as serious actresses.

Check out THE LOOKOUT (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt04274700) in a few weeks for some dramatic Isla Fisher acting and HEIGHTS (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382073) for Elizabeth Banks at her most raw and exceptional!

Winslet is absolutely the top choice though.

[JacksCatGirl]

Here's why I'd think Nolan would cast someone like Rachel McAdams(someone unexpected, not a complete big name, and doesn't 100 percent look like the character) for Selena and not Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, and Kate Beckinsale

It obvious Nolan would want to trick the audience, he would want to have Selena's debut to be a surprise and that would build up antcipation for the next Bat film, and he would want her character to be three dementional and human. He's already handling Dent that way, why would Selena be any different. I'm not saying she'll be in the TDK, I'm just saying there's no way show up as a main villain(in future sequels) without a clever set up and build up with Nolan making the film.

If Rachel had shown up in TDK as a nameless character in a brief cameo/s un introduced, people wouldn't be able to decide if she was Harley, Dent's wife, Vicky Vale, or Selena, everyone would be listening and looking for hints. Rachel is a wild card for Selena, and she is not known for a certain character type, where as Angelina and kate, everyone would automatically know as Selena by first glance.

I can see it now how Selena would appear, as some girl Bruce meets at a party briefly and have a deep conversation (maybe about something ironic like public facades. An intense yet witty arguement would be good, where she make fun of him as a selfish rich boy), he has a attraction to her, he finds her intriguing being one of the only girls not to flirt with him but instead make fun of him. He is interupted before he could get her name. He doesn't persue her at first, feeling that there's no girl who could understand him and trust enough to tell his odd lifestyle. Though curiousity gets the best of him and he later looks over his guest list of the party of his where he first met her, he can't find her and wonder if she crashed it. He sees her later in the film again and at another event, an auction(little hint), and ask someone like harvey who she is, and he doesn't know. He comes to believe that she could be a undercover reporter out to do a story on him when he finds she has a camera hidden and is secretly taking notes. He approches her, playfully asking her why she'd be at an auction and quoting what she said to him before, she avoids answering him by asking him the questions. She won't tell him her name and dissapears. Thus leading the audience to think she's vicky vale. Then later on the run into each other, both in a hurry, another brief interaction and he casually aks how her story is comming thinking that would affect her but when she replys "What story?" he is thrown off and replies, "Aren't you a reporter?" and she smiles at him and says as she walks away, "I'm not the type to be all talk. Just action and only action. You should try it sometime." Then at the end of the film after the main villian is taken care of and everything is at peace, Bruce gets notiication of a robbery taking place and we see a sleek dark figure hidden in shadow, there a chase down and fianlly he has the figure cornered on a rooftop, the figure is still hidden holding a diamond necklace the same one that was at the auction. We see part of the figure's face curl in a smile before she gets aways losing him. The next shot is a huge round window in a apartment up high with a sillouettte of Catwoman at the window sill. The apartment is dark as she goes in and the audience is now seeing the back of Catwoman as she takes of her mask and lays down on a day bed playing with the necklace. Her face is hidden in shadows and with lighting lights up and we see her face revealing who she is as we see in the background emerging from the shadows, with the classic cape effect, Batman---and the film ends there.

It would be more clever and deceiving than that, but that's an idea of how I think Nolan's Catwoman would enter and I just don't see how that would be pulled off well by Angelina and Kate(Beckinsale). It just can't be done with that kind of actress in the role.

Though to whoever mentioned Kate Winslet, I agree, she would make a very interesting Selena. She's an amazing actress and I can see her pulling off catwoman character rather well.

[Crooklyn]

Here's why I'd think Nolan would cast someone like Rachel McAdams(someone unexpected, not a complete big name, and doesn't 100 percent look like the character) for Selena and not Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, and Kate Beckinsale

It obvious Nolan would want to trick the audience, he would want to have Selena's debut to be a surprise and that would build up antcipation for the next Bat film, and he would want her character to be three dementional and human. He's already handling Dent that way, why would Selena be any different. I'm not saying she'll be in the TDK, I'm just saying there's no way show up as a main villain(in future sequels) without a clever set up and build up with Nolan making the film.

If Rachel had shown up in TDK as a nameless character in a brief cameo/s un introduced, people wouldn't be able to decide if she was Harley, Dent's wife, Vicky Vale, or Selena, everyone would be listening and looking for hints. Rachel is a wild card for Selena, and she is not known for a certain character type, where as Angelina and kate, everyone would automatically know as Selena by first glance.

I can see it now how Selena would appear, as some girl Bruce meets at a party briefly and have a deep conversation (maybe about something ironic like public facades. An intense yet witty arguement would be good, where she make fun of him as a selfish rich boy), he has a attraction to her, he finds her intriguing being one of the only girls not to flirt with him but instead make fun of him. He is interupted before he could get her name. He doesn't persue her at first, feeling that there's no girl who could understand him and trust enough to tell his odd lifestyle. Though curiousity gets the best of him and he later looks over his guest list of the party of his where he first met her, he can't find her and wonder if she crashed it. He sees her later in the film again and at another event, an auction(little hint), and ask someone like harvey who she is, and he doesn't know. He comes to believe that she could be a undercover reporter out to do a story on him when he finds she has a camera hidden and is secretly taking notes. He approches her, playfully asking her why she'd be at an auction and quoting what she said to him before, she avoids answering him by asking him the questions. She won't tell him her name and dissapears. Thus leading the audience to think she's vicky vale. Then later on the run into each other, both in a hurry, another brief interaction and he casually aks how her story is comming thinking that would affect her but when she replys "What story?" he is thrown off and replies, "Aren't you a reporter?" and she smiles at him and says as she walks away, "I'm not the type to be all talk. Just action and only action. You should try it sometime." Then at the end of the film after the main villian is taken care of and everything is at peace, Bruce gets notiication of a robbery taking place and we see a sleek dark figure hidden in shadow, there a chase down and fianlly he has the figure cornered on a rooftop, the figure is still hidden holding a diamond necklace the same one that was at the auction. We see part of the figure's face curl in a smile before she gets aways losing him. The next shot is a huge round window in a apartment up high with a sillouettte of Catwoman at the window sill. The apartment is dark as she goes in and the audience is now seeing the back of Catwoman as she takes of her mask and lays down on a day bed playing with the necklace. Her face is hidden in shadows and with lighting lights up and we see her face revealing who she is as we see in the background emerging from the shadows, with the classic cape effect, Batman---and the film ends there.

It would be more clever and deceiving than that, but that's an idea of how I think Nolan's Catwoman would enter and I just don't see how that would be pulled off well by Angelina and Kate(Beckinsale). It just can't be done with that kind of actress in the role.
I'm assuming for that type of situation to work out, the actress would either have to be hidden from the press, or take an uncredited/unnamed role?

I think we can cross out the first suggestion, as hiding a major character from a production this big is next to impossible. As for the latter, that can apply to any actress, famous or not. If all we know is so-and-so is playing a female character that meets up with Bruce, Selina WILL be brought up as part of speculation, you just can't escape it. I like your idea of introducing the character very much, but you'd be hard-pressed to fool the fans by the time it hits theaters. We'll figure it out long before then I'm sure.

[JacksCatGirl]

True, ala with the whole Ra's twist, but Nolan could find a way. They can nver fool fans but they can for sure fool others not familiar with the Bat world that wasn't shown on film. They could give the character/selena an alias name and make people think she's another made up Rachel Dawes type character.

[Crooklyn]

True, ala with the whole Ra's twist, but Nolan could find a way. They can nver fool fans but they can for sure fool others not familiar with the Bat world that wasn't shown on film.
Well we're moving to different territory then. If it's Joe-Six-Pack who's being referred to in this situation, then the Beckinsale/Theron/Jolie as Catwoman recognizability is considered null.

After all, it's only the fans that would be able to associate those 3 with Selina. To the mainstream audience, it's just (insert celebrity here) being featured in a Batman film. Catwoman wouldn't even be a conceivable thought.

[EagleVision]

Wow. Didn't realize Kate B. to play Selina Kyle is a top contender. She would be good, I think. But I'd think she'd might make a better Wonder Woman although we all know that may never get off the ground anytime soon. I also used to be an Ali Landry fan for WW but I don't know if the acting chops are there. But as for CW, I can deal with Beckinsale, but # 1 on my list is Mrs. Pitt. Jolie is perfect in every way!

[batboy99]

beckinsale isnt that great of an actress,jolie tops her on so many levels

[Arkard]

But Beckinsale has better boobage. You know, those sweater mittens. Her melons? The 2 presidents? The twins? BREASTS! Oh.. crap..

[batboy99]

uhh selinas boobs arent that big,and the boobs isnt what get you a role in a big movie like batman,in a smaller role,yeah maybe but not a role this important

[Two-Face]

Jolie is perfect in every way!


Of course, for Selina Kyle. :up:

[Slipping_Halo]

JOLIE. I don't see how anyone can take a single look at her and not see catwoman.
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http://www.ugo.com/hub/batman/images/galleries/batman_catwoman_filmtv/catwoman_comics_2_th.jpg

[Nepenthes]

Of course she looks like Catwoman.

She's also a good actor.

Doesn't she'd be right for this version of Batman though.

[Two-Face]

Of course she looks like Catwoman.

She's also a good actor.

Doesn't she'd be right for this version of Batman though.

Really? Holmes was right? Jolie is right but you don't want her in a Batman movie.

[batboy99]

im a fan for jolie for selina but im afraid she may over shadow the film,imo

[Crooklyn]

Of course she looks like Catwoman.

She's also a good actor.

Doesn't she'd be right for this version of Batman though.
And what *is* this version of Batman? :huh:

im a fan for jolie for selina but im afraid she may over shadow the film,imo
Please refer to like every damn film Jolie has been in, post-Tomb Raider. I really don't don't see how that is even an issue anymore.

[batboy99]

because everyone knows who she it isnt a problem but as many people said before,you wont say like hey theres catwoman,youll say hey look there angelina jolie as catwoman
hey i like her for selina but thats just my opinion

[Crooklyn]

Well now you're just discussing something completely different then. I don't really think that one will ever be resolved.

I've been arguing that point ever since page 2 of this thread. :csad:

[DorkyFresh]

Doesn't she'd be right for this version of Batman though.
a beautiful, talented actress that's worked with some of the best in Hollywood and would undoubtedly help at the box office....how is she not right?

im a fan for jolie for selina but im afraid she may over shadow the film,imo
i have that worry too, but after seeing her in Alexander and the Good Shepherd i have confidence that Angelina can play supporting roles without being overwhelming. heck, in the Good Shepherd i even felt she was UNDER-used.

you wont say like hey theres catwoman,youll say hey look there angelina jolie as catwoman
i had no problem with watching Captain Picard as Professor X or John McClane as Hartigan. her popularity is dying down right now...it only exploded because she hooked up with Brad Pitt. as Crooklyn said, not being able to see Angelina as her character in the movie is a problem with the person who thinks that way....not Angelina (or any other decent actor/actress).

[Slipping_Halo]

I had no problem seeing Christian Bale, whom I was already a fan of beforehand, as Batman. I also had no problem seeing Rutger Haur, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, or Gary Oldman in their respective roles. I knew who these people were and loved their previous work before the movie came out and it didn't affect at all my ability to see them as their respective characters. Jolie would be the same way. She's not THAT big of an actress that her presence would distract. She'd be awesome as Selina Kyle. There is no better pick.

[batboy99]

a beautiful, talented actress that's worked with some of the best in Hollywood and would undoubtedly help at the box office....how is she not right?


i have that worry too, but after seeing her in Alexander and the Good Shepherd i have confidence that Angelina can play supporting roles without being overwhelming. heck, in the Good Shepherd i even felt she was UNDER-used.


i had no problem with watching Captain Picard as Professor X or John McClane as Hartigan. her popularity is dying down right now...it only exploded because she hooked up with Brad Pitt. as Crooklyn said, not being able to see Angelina as her character in the movie is a problem with the person who thinks that way....not Angelina (or any other decent actor/actress).
thats true,she was one of the only reasons why i watched alexander(along with rosario dawson)

[Vs-F-J]

I'm really surprised and shocked that Kate Beckinsale seems to be everyone's favourite contender to play Catwoman in the future. I'm a Brit, and I'm VERY proud of our fine array of acting talent, but I think the actress for Catwoman should definitely be American! I don't think an actress from any other nationality would be able to capture Catwoman correctly. Also, everyone seems to think Beckinsale is really really sexy, but I've never thought so. She's actually rather thin and pale and doesn't have many curves to her figure. Catwoman has to have a voluptuous, athletic, sexy figure (like Angelina Jolie's or Charlize Theron, heck - even Halle Berry's body was right!), and I don't think Beckinsale looks the part. It's flattering that you guys want a Brit to play the role, but don't underestimate your own country's talent -those American girls know how to do sexy feline fatales very well! And this is a personal plea to Chris Nolan: PLEASE make sure you start including the villainesses in the Batman movies in future! PLEASE! It ain't the same without a sexy ****** in high heels kicking butt!

[Nepenthes]

Really? Holmes was right? Jolie is right but you don't want her in a Batman movie.

wtf why are you talking about Katie Holmes?

And what *is* this version of Batman? :huh:

How am I supposed to respond to this? You want me to describe why Begins is different from other superhero movies? Geez dude. You're developing a bad habit of asking people to restate their point of view; it's not clever nor is it witty. You know exactly what I'm saying and you just choose to ignore so you can "respond" with a snide little remark.


a beautiful, talented actress that's worked with some of the best in Hollywood and would undoubtedly help at the box office....how is she not right?

Just because she's a talented and unbelievably hot mega star it doesn't mean she's right for *every* and any role in question, which is what that statement implies ^.


People have pointed out that Jolie doesn't always overshadow her co-stars. Correct. But she's never worn a catsuit before. Hello, she'll be a *Batman villain*. They're big, grand characters. You can't cast Jolie and then ask her to play cool. She's not exactly subtle, in her acting or her public impact/perception.

Basically, Catwoman cannot be her own character if she's played by Jolie. She'll always be Angelina Jolie (OMG!) with kitten ears and a whip. That's all people will care about going in to the movie (because they don't know jack all about Catwoman) and so that's all they will see. It's selling the character short. It's reinforcing that 'Catwoman' is merely a sexy A-grade actress slinking around in leather and kicking in the air, a la Halle Berry and Michelle Pfieffer. It's doom to Selina Kyle.

We've already had the spandex comic-book geek-out Catwoman on screen before. Jolie is the ultimate in fanboy casting i.e. putting the comic before the film. Just because she's the splitting image in attitude, athleticism and looks (perfect!) it doesn't mean she can produce the character in a way no one else can.

The are SO MANY other actresses to consider here. Every one of them could approach the role WITHOUT the handicap of being the sexiest woman alive (and a global megastar and goddess unto her own). That's not Selina Kyle from the dirty South End.

[killingyouguy]

^ I agree with most of what you said. I was just wondering, who would you like to see as Catwoman? (I may have missed it)

[Nepenthes]

double post

[Nepenthes]

Charlize Theron. She's outrageously hot and feminine but she can still do the tough girl with all the pouting and glaring that Jolie and her ilk have to resort to. She can do dirty, violent action scenes without it descending into a kinky farce and then she then put on a cocktail dress and you wouldn't know it's the same person. And in terms of acting she makes Jolie look like a tadpole, one frozen expression.

[Hunter Rider]

Obviously Jolie is the perfect choice IMO but another one i would like if the went younger is.....

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2945/image00001nz0.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4825/image00002in0.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5555/image00003qg3.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2126/image00004ya3.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6650/image00005iy3.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2551/image00006vm5.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8259/image00007un0.jpg

[Crooklyn]

How am I supposed to respond to this? You want me to describe why Begins is different from other superhero movies? Geez dude. You're developing a bad habit of asking people to restate their point of view; it's not clever nor is it witty. You know exactly what I'm saying and you just choose to ignore so you can "respond" with a snide little remark.
Wasn't trying to be clever, nor witty. If I knew exactly what you were saying, I wouldn't bother to ask. Please do not flatter yourself so much to think I'd really take the time to take pointless little jabs.

Your comment about a "version" of Batman just doesn't fit in regards to casting. I'm not even just limiting this to Jolie or Catwoman, that goes for any actor and any role. I'm sure you already know, that well, these people...act. Meaning they do what the script says, what the director instructs, and in some cases, put their own spin according to how they read the character. So whatever vision there is, you just need an actress to pull off those 3 things.

Not to mention that we have NO idea what Nolan would do with Selina, it pretty much makes your point moot.

People have pointed out that Jolie doesn't always overshadow her co-stars. Correct. But she's never worn a catsuit before.
What the hell does a suit have to do with anything? :huh:

Hello, she'll be a *Batman villain*. They're big, grand characters.
Yes, the big, grand villains. Like Ra's, Crane, and Falcone. Real show stoppers. Totally took away from Bruce. :dry:

You can't cast Jolie and then ask her to play cool. She's not exactly subtle, in her acting or her public impact/perception.
If she wasn't subtle, you wouldn't be agreeing that she hasn't overshadowed anyone when in an ensemble cast.

Basically, Catwoman cannot be her own character if she's played by Jolie. She'll always be Angelina Jolie (OMG!) with kitten ears and a whip. That's all people will care about going in to the movie (because they don't know jack all about Catwoman) and so that's all they will see.
Yeah, let's completely forget that there very well could be the possibility of Jolie adding something to this role. Just completely predict the future, and state Jolie will play Jolie, Catwoman will be written 2-dimensional, and the audience will see it as such.

It's selling the character short. It's reinforcing that 'Catwoman' is merely a sexy A-grade actress slinking around in leather and kicking in the air, a la Halle Berry and Michelle Pfieffer. It's doom to Selina Kyle.
Last I checked Pheiffer's performance was widely praised. Also, the whole sexy, slinky, leather-clad archetype is completely up to the writers. It's their job to add some depth to the character.

Jolie is the ultimate in fanboy casting i.e. putting the comic before the film. Just because she's the splitting image in attitude, athleticism and looks (perfect!) it doesn't mean she can produce the character in a way no one else can.
Man, last I witnessed the ultimate fanboy casting, it worked absolute wonders. Little guy named Bale. I'm sure you've heard of him.

And I think we all know Jolie isn't the ONLY choice for this role. We're merely stating who's our #1. Just as in 2002-2003, many fanboys were suggesting Bale. Does it mean he's the only one? No, but they're voicing a loud opinion.

[DorkyFresh]

Just because she's a talented and unbelievably hot mega star it doesn't mean she's right for *every* and any role in question, which is what that statement implies ^.
no, that's what you imply. not every female role needs talent, requires a woman to be hot (though most do), or an actress that's worked with some of the best...but Catwoman's role does. now...those aren't the ONLY requirements, but i'm not about to start listing...

People have pointed out that Jolie doesn't always overshadow her co-stars. Correct. But she's never worn a catsuit before. Hello, she'll be a *Batman villain*. They're big, grand characters.
wtf does never having worn a catsuit before have anything to do with anything? Christian Bale never wore a BATSUIT before he played Batman, Tobey never wore a Spider-Man suit. wtf?

Basically, Catwoman cannot be her own character if she's played by Jolie. She'll always be Angelina Jolie (OMG!) with kitten ears and a whip. That's all people will care about going in to the movie (because they don't know jack all about Catwoman) and so that's all they will see. It's selling the character short. It's reinforcing that 'Catwoman' is merely a sexy A-grade actress slinking around in leather and kicking in the air, a la Halle Berry and Michelle Pfieffer. It's doom to Selina Kyle.
*sarcasm* i love when people start reading other people's minds and predicting possible futures. it really helps their argument because it's solid...*sarcasm*

We've already had the spandex comic-book geek-out Catwoman on screen before. Jolie is the ultimate in fanboy casting i.e. putting the comic before the film. Just because she's the splitting image in attitude, athleticism and looks (perfect!) it doesn't mean she can produce the character in a way no one else can.
Bale wasn't? Spacey wasn't? Peter Cullen (Transformers) isn't?? hell, they even got Patrick Stewart to play Professor Xavier...do you mean to tell me that the directors who casted those actors were putting comic before film? what exactly are you trying to prove here...that the directors shouldn't listen to the fans?

The are SO MANY other actresses to consider here. Every one of them could approach the role WITHOUT the handicap of being the sexiest woman alive (and a global megastar and goddess unto her own). That's not Selina Kyle from the dirty South End.
i agree...there ARE other actresses to consider. i've expressed that already...i would love to see Charlize or Rosario take the role. i'd have no problems with them what-so-ever....but i feel that Angelina has the edge over everyone else not ONLY because she's drop dead gorgeous (i'll admit that it has a lot to do with it) but ALSO because i feel that she's had enough experience to hit this role out of the park.

[Two-Face]

wtf why are you talking about Katie Holmes?


I used her as example, since you said Jolie isn't right this version of Batman that's why I said "was Holmes right?" I mean which actress is right for Nolan's Batman?

[batboy99]

Obviously Jolie is the perfect choice IMO but another one i would like if the went younger is.....

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2945/image00001nz0.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4825/image00002in0.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5555/image00003qg3.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2126/image00004ya3.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6650/image00005iy3.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2551/image00006vm5.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8259/image00007un0.jpg
ive said her before,im glad she isnt as skinny now,deep down i still like her for catwoman its just shes so damn short!

[killingyouguy]

^ I'd rather her for Harley.

[The Only Woj]

ive said her before,im glad she isnt as skinny now,deep down i still like her for catwoman its just shes so damn short!

yeah, I'm surprised she gets so much work considering she's 3'11"

[Vs-F-J]

yeah, I'm surprised she gets so much work considering she's 3'11"

Yeah, Catwoman needs to be taller, like Charlize Theron (who is also a great actress)

[Slipping_Halo]

I'm really surprised and shocked that Kate Beckinsale seems to be everyone's favourite contender to play Catwoman in the future. I'm a Brit, and I'm VERY proud of our fine array of acting talent, but I think the actress for Catwoman should definitely be American! I don't think an actress from any other nationality would be able to capture Catwoman correctly. Also, everyone seems to think Beckinsale is really really sexy, but I've never thought so. She's actually rather thin and pale and doesn't have many curves to her figure. Catwoman has to have a voluptuous, athletic, sexy figure (like Angelina Jolie's or Charlize Theron, heck - even Halle Berry's body was right!), and I don't think Beckinsale looks the part. It's flattering that you guys want a Brit to play the role, but don't underestimate your own country's talent -those American girls know how to do sexy feline fatales very well! And this is a personal plea to Chris Nolan: PLEASE make sure you start including the villainesses in the Batman movies in future! PLEASE! It ain't the same without a sexy ****** in high heels kicking butt!

We've already got an British Batman and Commissioner Gordon and an Australian Joker, if I remember correctly. I believe the characters do need to be American-in the movie itself. Otherwise it doesn't matter where they're from. Either way I'm not for Beckinsale as Catwoman. Angelina Jolie is more than capable and looks straight out of the comic. She's a badass and sexy as hell, curvy, and feisty. She's perfect.

I see Beckinsale as a possible Talia Al Ghul really.

[green]

Im honestly suprised there isnt more support for Natalie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/natcat.jpg

[DorkyFresh]

the problem i have with Natalie is the same problem i have with Ricci and Dushku...they're "cute"...not "sexy".

[green]

Yeah, I can see that. I think Nat could pull it off though, especially after Closer.

[batboy99]

yeah, I'm surprised she gets so much work considering she's 3'11"
uh shes taller than that

[Two-Face]

the problem i have with Natalie is the same problem i have with Ricci and Dushku...they're "cute"...not "sexy".

I agree, I say same for Scarlett Johansson.

[WorthyStevens]

I've always thought Charisma Carpenter would make a great Selina/Catwoman.

[batboy99]

I agree, I say same for Scarlett Johansson.
what??no shes dead sexy!now that woman is beyond cute,by a long shot

[DorkyFresh]

Yeah, I can see that. I think Nat could pull it off though, especially after Closer.
not so sure about Natalie. haven't seen Closer, but from what i've seen of her she'd do a DECENT job but not a GREAT job. i'm sure Ricci would do an awesome job but she's just too short, too young, and too cute...imo.

I agree, I say same for Scarlett Johansson.
the only problem i have with Scarlett for Catwoman is her age. i think she has looks that could be considered either cute OR sexy...but i consider her look more sexy than cute.

[Miranda Fox]

I've always thought Charisma Carpenter would make a great Selina/Catwoman.

I would agree except for that VOICE! It worked for Cordy on Buffy but for Selina? Survey says NU-UH.

[Two-Face]

the only problem i have with Scarlett for Catwoman is her age. i think she has looks that could be considered either cute OR sexy...but i consider her look more sexy than cute.

what??no shes dead sexy!now that woman is beyond cute,by a long shot

I'm pleased for both of you, I consider cute and sexy but more cute.

[DorkyFresh]

fair enough. i don't want her for Catwoman anyway. i want her for Meryl from Metal Gear.

[Hunter Rider]

The earlier mention of Charlize is a good one,i could see her fitting the role really well

[Crooklyn]

fair enough. i don't want her for Catwoman anyway. i want her for Meryl from Metal Gear.
Silly goose, that's reserved for Rachael Leigh Cook:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6457/rachaelleighcook03ow8.jpg
http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/14593/images/meryl.jpg

:p

[Vs-F-J]

The earlier mention of Charlize is a good one,i could see her fitting the role really well

Yeah that was me lol! Even though my ideal Catwoman/Selina Kyle would be blonde, Charlize also looks stunning as a brunette and can pull off either hair colour perfectly! :yay: Plus I think she has the acting talent to pull off the complex persona that is Catwoman, whereas some of the other actresses mentioned might not be so versatile. I'd put my faith in her or an unknown actress who could make her debut role as Catwoman.

[DorkyFresh]

Silly goose, that's reserved for Rachael Leigh Cook:

:p

too girly, too small. Scarlett dammit!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/merylscarlettcompare1.jpg

[hey yo its sean]

uh shes taller than that

No ****, Sherlock.

[MinNoir]

Hmmm.... what to say, what to say.

I'm actually in support of either CC or KB. I believe both could pull it off fantastically, but if you ask me. I say go for a no-namer, a gal whose got no real resumé I mean sure she's been in a few parts here and there, but a gal who has yet to hit a big time role would probably do a helluva lot better than say, NP, KB, CR, or CC.

[By the way I'm just too damn lazy to spell out the girls entire names.]

So my vote: Casting call, open casting call for gals to play the beloved Selina Kyle who can really capture her, in a way that will please the fanboys and girls, and will keep the money coming. I say an unknown gal. Hell, no one really knew who Bale or Maguire were before they big shots at the films. So sure they had a few sparkles in the lights before but now they just big time stars look at'im. So, pick an unknown gal that will really give the role all she's got. Because quite honestly half the women we're talking about might think themselves *too big* for the role. Well Rosario, may do it but honestly, compare her to the comic book for you comic before film folk.

Just my two cents: *wonders off to read her comic books*

[Crooklyn]

Unknowns are pretty much the answer for every comic book role. At least for the major roles, where it's absolutely necessary the audience identity with the character first, instead of the actor.

But for supporting roles? Not so much imo. It's hard enough finding an unknown with the right look, no less one that can pull off the role if they don't have much experience anyway. If they do find a girl that can do it, great. But they'd have a better shot going with someone already in Hollywood.

[DorkyFresh]

Crooklyn...besides Meryl, we think on the same level. props to ya!

[batboy99]

No ****, Sherlock.:whatever:

[DorkyFresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman1-1.jpg

[Crooklyn]

The body is nice....but what's up with the face? Did you stretch her face? :huh:

[Darth Elektra]

Im honestly suprised there isnt more support for Natalie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/natcat.jpg

wow :up:

[Darth Elektra]

Look at these pics of Beckinsale in Underworld: Evolution... If you got rid of the guns and corsette, and gave her the mask, we'd have ourselves a perfect Catwoman. :cool:

http://www.kbeckinsale.net/gallery/albums/movies/underworld2/stills/15.jpg http://www.kbeckinsale.net/gallery/albums/movies/underworld2/stills/normal_11.jpg http://www.kbeckinsale.net/gallery/albums/movies/underworld2/posters/02.jpg
http://www.kbeckinsale.net/gallery/albums/movies/underworld2/stills/17.jpg

Also, there's this other fine bounty that screams Catwoman. :O

http://www.kbeckinsale.net/gallery/albums/magazines/clippingsandunknown/008.jpg

Beckinsale is a great choice, also Bridget Moynahan would be a good choice.

[Vs-F-J]

Beckinsale is a great choice, also Bridget Moynahan would be a good choice.[/FONT]

Have you forgotten her disastrous attempt at an action heroine in Van Helsing?!

[DorkyFresh]

Have you forgotten her disastrous attempt at an action heroine in Van Helsing?!
what're talkin' about dude? Bridget wasn't in Van Helsing....that was Kate Beckinsale.

The body is nice....but what's up with the face? Did you stretch her face? :huh:
naw dude...left the face. it DOES look a lil' weird but i like the expression on her face...

[Vs-F-J]

what're talkin' about dude? Bridget wasn't in Van Helsing....that was Kate Beckinsale.

That's who I was talking about - obviously!

[DorkyFresh]

oh...my fault, i saw Bridget in bold so i thought she as who you were talking about. my mistake...

[itsthebatman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman1-1.jpg
Angelina Jolie...leather... *slips in own drool*

[Vs-F-J]

Angelina Jolie...leather... *slips in own drool*

Angelina Jolie?! I thought it was Uma Thurman from The Avengers!

[Vs-F-J]

Angelina Jolie...leather... *slips in own drool*

Angelina Jolie?! I thought it was Uma Thurman from The Avengers!

[itsthebatman]

Angelina Jolie?! I thought it was Uma Thurman from The Avengers!

I know, I know. But the manip just set my mind going in weird and wonderful directions. Mind you, wouldn't say no to Uma either.

[Darth Elektra]

Anyway, this manip pretty much says it all.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1791

BECKINSALE DANGIT!!!


Thats sweet!

[slipknotrocks]

Jolie or maybe Eva Green.

[batboy99]

eva IMO is more suited for ivy
and sorry to the kate supporters,shes got the looks but she cant act

[Vs-F-J]

I know, I know. But the manip just set my mind going in weird and wonderful directions. Mind you, wouldn't say no to Uma either.

Oh my God, are you sure about that?!! Think what she did to Poison Ivy!!!


eva IMO is more suited for ivy

and sorry to the kate supporters,shes got the looks but she cant act

Kate Beckinsale can act, but to me she just don't look right for Catwoman!! And Eva Green doesn't look right for any of the villainesses. She's too short and pale; she's a good actress, but I don't think she's got that wild, sexual, violent confidence that Catwoman has and I don't think she could imitate it.

[batboy99]

Oh my God, are you sure about that?!! Think what she did to Poison Ivy!!!




Kate Beckinsale can act, but to me she just don't look right for Catwoman!! And Eva Green doesn't look right for any of the villainesses. She's too short and pale; she's a good actress, but I don't think she's got that wild, sexual, violent confidence that Catwoman has and I don't think she could imitate it.no sorry,she cant

[Darth Elektra]

no sorry,she cant

Yes, she can.

[DorkyFresh]

Beckinsale has potential. she's not that great, but she's not a $#!++y actress either. she needs to work on better projects with better directors. she was great in Aviator because Scorsese directed it.

[David Rice]

Beckinsale has potential. she's not that great, but she's not a $#!++y actress either. she needs to work on better projects with better directors. she was great in Aviator because Scorsese directed it.

Yeah, you said it man. She was good in Peal Harbor too!

[David Rice]

Im honestly suprised there isnt more support for Natalie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/natcat.jpg

She's too short! Great actress, just too short for Catwoman.

[batboy99]

if she was younger,Gina Gershon :up: