Ghost Rider TV Show? [Archive] - The SuperHeroHype Forums

FlameHead

07-27-2005, 09:49 PM

BURNFOREVER

07-27-2005, 11:17 PM

Avi mentioned at the con that this movie almost turned into a TV show. Close call eh? I'm definatly glad that there's a movie coming out...

... however, it sure would be awesome to have a tv show. Not in replacement of a movie but in addition too. Wouldn't you guys like that?

Would it work as a series ya think?

A GR tv series?
Christ! It will be my dream come true. Well, my second dream, since the MOVIE it´s been produced at this moment.
Mess up with future sequels? i don´t think so. Remember Smallville and Superman Returns. On the contraire, they are linked even.
In my dreams a wrote a tv show called "JOHNNY BLAZE", exploring JB´s childhood and teenage years. The Naomi story, the first signs of the DAMNATION, past incarnations, things like that.
But it´s just a fan dream.
It will be cool.:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

Vartha

07-28-2005, 12:26 AM

If they do it like they did StarGate from movie to tv series I'd be fine with it, but I'd like to see GR on the Screen at least a couple more times.

BIGGUN

07-28-2005, 12:36 AM

i agree w/ Vartha...let GR go the route of Blade. 3 movies then a tv series...of course that will depend how well the first movie does.

Vartha

07-28-2005, 01:20 AM

I just hope if they ever do a cartoon they don't dumb it down to the point where it doesn't make sense. I mean they talked about that before, they'd have to make it so it wouldn't scare the kiddies. The same for the tv show, from what I remember, they wanted to do the tv show, but it was too lame of a script and plot idea.

RedIsNotBlue

07-28-2005, 05:46 AM

Ehhh I think they would go with really cheap CGI and end up making Ghost Rider look laughable.

FlameHead

07-29-2005, 01:06 PM

There's always the problem with that. I mean, we don't want another Mutant X type thing. I think the only real way to do it would be a cartoon... a nice dark animation series.

Would be cool to see the story of a whole bunch of different Ghost Rider's through time.

Abaddon

07-29-2005, 01:11 PM

what the heck.as long as the main character isnt wearing a toupee.

Triligors

07-29-2005, 04:53 PM

Well, could work. In the film we know of Johnny Blaze, if Marvel is listening I will be pitching an idea for Spider-Man: The Series live action later on after its debut on superherohype.com. And I have 'worked' in the Marvel live action television mind set- even if not professionally. I think a Ghost Rider show would be great, but what about confusion? No problem, we've got Dan Ketch. Also this will help draw in teen audiences and fans alike. So, Dan Ketch seems like he would make the perfect page to small screen adaptation- since we picture Nicholas Cage as Johnny Blaze. Maybe he could have cameos now and then? Similar to how Christopher Reeves guest starred on Smallville.

FlameHead

07-30-2005, 05:45 AM

I'd watch it faithfully. They could even develop the brother storyline with Blaze and Ketch... though I doubt Nic would do any TV. Great idea! Again, we'd have to worry about the special effects with live action though.

Mr Nick

07-30-2005, 03:34 PM

I don't like to see Superheroes on TV. Very few of them get the budget they need to be done right.

Having said that, Ghost Rider could be adapted pretty easily for TV. Hell, the guy's seeking a way to rid himself of his curse and he's got a bike so he can ride to a new place every week. He'll fall for a local gal who's in trouble, fire up, beat the bad guys and save the damsel in distress, but in doing so lose his chance to cure himself by this much. Bit like The Incredible Hulk, but with wheels and hellfire.

;)

Chris Wallace

07-30-2005, 06:08 PM

Sci-fi & superhero TV shows seem to be made to break fans' hearts. You want them, wati w/baited breath for them, & they suck.

Chris Wallace

07-30-2005, 06:09 PM

Having said that, Ghost Rider could be adapted pretty easily for TV. Hell, the guy's seeking a way to rid himself of his curse and he's got a bike so he can ride to a new place every week. He'll fall for a local gal who's in trouble, fire up, beat the bad guys and save the damsel in distress, but in doing so lose his chance to cure himself by this much. Bit like The Incredible Hulk, but with wheels and hellfire.

;)And that's exactly how it would come across. Like a knockoff of the Hulk. :ghost:

RedIsNotBlue

07-30-2005, 06:21 PM

Sci-fi & superhero TV shows seem to be made to break fans' hearts. You want them, wati w/baited breath for them, & they suck.

Exactly. Especially with a main character that would have to rely on heavy CGI. A character like the Punisher who is more releastic can be made into a tv show but Ghost Rider...I doubt it. An animated series like Spawn definitely but live action...no.

FlameHead

08-01-2005, 07:35 AM

And that's exactly how it would come across. Like a knockoff of the Hulk. :ghost:

Just because it may have Ghost Rider appearing just once, at the end of the episode, doesn't make it a knockoff. It's just how plotlines go. I mean, the story is mainly about how Johnny/Dan Ketch deals with having this demon bonded to them (which IS much like the Hulk story, no doubt). Having Ghost Rider the entire episode wouldn't create any dramatic story and would be just action.

Having said that, designing it like the old hulk episodes would work perfectly... though I have to agree with Red on having an animated series would be best.

Mr Nick

08-01-2005, 01:04 PM

Exactly. Especially with a main character that would have to rely on heavy CGI. A character like the Punisher who is more releastic can be made into a tv show but Ghost Rider...I doubt it. An animated series like Spawn definitely but live action...no.

Ooooo, good call. I hadn't considered animation. The cel-shaded CG Spider-Man series from MTV was pretty cool. If it was like that, but darker, it'd be solid.

:eek:

InVictus

08-01-2005, 01:08 PM

Ooooo, good call. I hadn't considered animation. The cel-shaded CG Spider-Man series from MTV was pretty cool. If it was like that, but darker, it'd be solid.

:eek:

You mean like Spawn cartoons?

Mr Nick

08-01-2005, 01:12 PM

Didn't see Spawn, I'm afraid. Never liked the character.:(

InVictus

08-01-2005, 01:44 PM

Me too, actually i hate it , but the cartoon had the right look...

RedIsNotBlue

08-01-2005, 04:29 PM

You mean like Spawn cartoons?

Cartoons? That kind of make it sounds like something they show on Cartoon Network. It was an R rated animated series on HBO.

InVictus

08-01-2005, 04:39 PM

Sorry, i can't link Spawn to something as serious as the words "animated series".

RedIsNotBlue

08-01-2005, 05:04 PM

Sorry, i can't link Spawn to something as serious as the words "animated series".

What???? Have you even seen an episode? It was an amazing and serious animated series. It won 2 Emmys, 2 Golden Reel Awards and was nominated for an Annie.

Chris Wallace

08-01-2005, 09:08 PM

Just because it may have Ghost Rider appearing just once, at the end of the episode, doesn't make it a knockoff. It's just how plotlines go. I mean, the story is mainly about how Johnny/Dan Ketch deals with having this demon bonded to them (which IS much like the Hulk story, no doubt). Having Ghost Rider the entire episode wouldn't create any dramatic story and would be just action.

Having said that, designing it like the old hulk episodes would work perfectly... though I have to agree with Red on having an animated series would be best.
Just b/c it wouldn't be a knockoff don't mean it wouldn't be perceived as one. Besides, you can't exactly "cure" demonic possession. He'd have to be searching for an exorcist or something. In any event, this "Fugitive meets Mr. Hyde" approach has been done before & I don't want GR to suffer that fate.:ghost:

FlameHead

08-01-2005, 10:54 PM

What would you suggest the show be like then? I mean, that's the character.

InVictus

08-01-2005, 11:54 PM

What???? Have you even seen an episode? It was an amazing and serious animated series. It won 2 Emmys, 2 Golden Reel Awards and was nominated for an Annie.

I know, it's just i cannot stand Spawn.Period.

FlameHead

08-02-2005, 10:48 PM

I honestly haven't seen anything to do with spawn, except for the movie. That includes comics. Seen a few covers; that's it.

Vartha

08-02-2005, 11:33 PM

I don't mind Spawn, I just wouldn't buy the comic. I mean it just didn't do anything for me.

I hope if they go into sequeals, or, cartoons, they use the Son of Satan, There were some great story lines in his books.

RedIsNotBlue

08-03-2005, 06:12 AM

I honestly haven't seen anything to do with spawn, except for the movie. That includes comics. Seen a few covers; that's it.

The movie was horrible. Next time you get the chance rent all the seasons of the animated series do it. I have a strong feeling you would like it.

fearthenight

08-03-2005, 12:24 PM

I don't know too much about Ghostrider (that's why I am here), but I think a tv show would be pretty awesome. I hope they would go with a relly gritty adult tone (kinda like the art of Ghrendel? I believe Flamehead posted in the fan art section). The show could run along the lines of an X-files type show.

FlameHead

08-04-2005, 07:19 AM

I had a look for that Ghrendal art but I couldn't find it anywhere. There used to be 2 threads about it here on the hype. Not sure where they are now...

The movie was horrible. Next time you get the chance rent all the seasons of the animated series do it. I have a strong feeling you would like it.

I'll definatly do that. I'll give anything a chance once. The character is very similar to Ghost Rider so I'll either really love it for that, or hate it.

I didn't hate the movie either. I just found that by the time it got past the origin and into the good stuff, it was over.

RedIsNotBlue

08-04-2005, 04:19 PM

I'll definatly do that. I'll give anything a chance once. The character is very similar to Ghost Rider so I'll either really love it for that, or hate it.

I didn't hate the movie either. I just found that by the time it got past the origin and into the good stuff, it was over.

The movie didn't do him justice just let me put it that way. They tried to turn him into a superhero in that movie and he is supposed to be a bitter antihero. You will love the animated series...trust me.

Vartha

08-04-2005, 07:19 PM

No offence RED, but Spawn was just too lame for me. He was kind of like GR, Son of Satan, and Spider-man rolled into one. I just didn't think the character Comic or moive was THAT great.

RedIsNotBlue

08-04-2005, 07:23 PM

No offence RED, but Spawn was just too lame for me. He was kind of like GR, Son of Satan, and Spider-man rolled into one. I just didn't think the character Comic or moive was THAT great.

Answer my question and be honest. How many episodes have you seen of the Spawn Animated Series?

Vartha

08-04-2005, 07:39 PM

RedIsNotBlue

08-04-2005, 07:45 PM

I saw old ones awhile ago, they weren't bad, I just was never a Spawn fan. It's probably also because I hate Mcfarlen.
He and Byrne were jerks, I never liked either of them, they were too good for most people.
Byrne would start stories and never finish them, or, he'd kill off a major characters. Never liked either of them. sorry Red

Nothing to be sorry about. I was just curious if your were bashing the series based on the movie and the comics. Too be honest I have probably only read 2 Spawn comics when I was a lot younger so I don't know too much about it. But the series was just A+...for me at least.

Vartha

08-04-2005, 07:53 PM

Well if they do a GR toon, I hope they they do it in either Ploog's style, or Mike Golden's style. Those two had perfect style's for animation.

FlameHead

08-05-2005, 10:50 PM

Well, I'll definatly give the Spawn series a shot. Bad or Good, it's worth making my own judgement.

Well if they do a GR toon, I hope they they do it in either Ploog's style, or Mike Golden's style. Those two had perfect style's for animation.

If it's a toon, I'd love to see something really awesome like the animation of "Flight of the Phoenix"; one of the Animatrix shorts. Toy Story stuff. Something 3d in a 2d world.

FlameHead

11-14-2005, 05:05 PM

Bumpity Bump.

Uncanny Orb

11-15-2005, 05:19 AM

When he appeared on the hulk cartoon that was actually like a pilot for a cartoon I heard to see how people liked him. It was great untill the end when he FLEW away on his bike.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/uncannyorb/granimat.gif

RedIsNotBlue

11-15-2005, 05:56 AM

So did you check out the Spawn animated series yet, Flamehead?

FlameHead

11-16-2005, 03:12 PM

Umm...yes. Ahh, I can't lie to ya. No, I haven't had a chance to do so yet. There's so much I want to see and I keep forgettin' about that. Someday soon hopefully.

Orb, I havent' seen that Hulk appearance yet but I hope to do so sometime soon. The flyin' part sounds... weird.

Kritish

11-17-2005, 12:10 PM

But would it be live action or animated ? :ghost:

FlameHead

11-18-2005, 08:15 AM

What would you rather?

RedIsNotBlue

11-18-2005, 09:37 AM

What would you rather?

I would say a series like Spawn had on HBO but some of us haven't seen it. *Coughs*

FlameHead

11-19-2005, 06:08 AM

LoL. Nice dig.

I really will get them soon. I hope my local blockbuster has them. How many are there, by the way?

RedIsNotBlue

11-19-2005, 08:30 AM

LoL. Nice dig.

I really will get them soon. I hope my local blockbuster has them. How many are there, by the way?

Three seasons. They have them seperate and in a box set at Blockbuster.com if that is any help. http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?channel=Movies&subChannel=sub&movieID=107788&displayBoxArt=true

FlameHead

11-21-2005, 09:50 AM

Thanks for the link Red. If I have time today, I'm gonna run over to my local Blockbuster and see if they have them there. You have me quite excited about to see them now.

Hellstormer

11-21-2005, 05:20 PM

I wouldn't want a live action show, but a series like the Spier-man series on MTV would be cool (kinda CGI with a seperate but tied in story) but only if it doesn't mess with sequals.

FlameHead

11-25-2005, 09:10 AM

I'd be down with that.

FlameHead

07-24-2006, 10:49 AM

Hellstormer

07-24-2006, 10:58 AM

Figured I'd bump this as there has been a couple of comments about TV Ghostie lately...

With talk at the Con that Nic only wants to do a sequal if it's better than the first, it could be more likely that a TV show is developed instead. Who knows.
Yea something about Nic he's such a great guy that he'll do sequals if the fans loved it but the box office results weren't so great.

BURNFOREVER

07-24-2006, 08:09 PM

Figured I'd bump this as there has been a couple of comments about TV Ghostie lately...

With talk at the Con that Nic only wants to do a sequal if it's better than the first, it could be more likely that a TV show is developed instead. Who knows.

Wait a minute!
FH, there is a rumor about a GR tv show?
Damn, i misssed that.
Of course, movies are the best way to see our heroes. Big screen and all.
But, GR every week?
Come on! It would be cool.
I didn´t saw Blade the series yet, but the comments are great.
Blade is an awesome character. The firts 2 movies are the best of Marvel´s, my opinion. The third? Goyer ruined it all.
Anyway, let´s wait.
:)

FlameHead

07-25-2006, 12:55 AM

Sorry about the confusion Burn but, there are no rumours of a GR tv show as of now. This is just a general conversation about it, whether we want it and what's we'd like to see if there was one.

The Blade series is really freakin' great so far. I'm totally into it and couldn't be happier really. Of course, I'm a huge Blade fan as well and probalby biased but, It's good. It really is.

Netmaster

07-25-2006, 03:03 AM

Point well made about Fox. They do tend to get rid of their most expensive sci-fi shows very quickly (X-files being the only exception I can think of).

That said, I do think that with the right backing and good writing, a live action Ghost Rider series could work, however if it did have to be animated I'd want it to have an adult tone and I just don't know of many networks that would air it in prime time (where I'd like to see it). Maybe they could work something out with some network, but I want more than just 10 or so episodes like the animated Spiderman series that was done for MTV. I want at the very least 15-20 episodes or I see little point to even trying. If they are going to do it they need to do it right and not half assed.

Oh and parts of it need to be CGI. I think that's a must in order for it to be right on par with todays best animation. I don't know how they'd make it work, but I'd like for at least the flames to be CGI.

If I were in charge of the animated series I'd have Johnny Blaze done in traditional cell animation throughout the entire show, but whenever he transforms into Ghost Rider he goes from traditional animation to completely CGI along with the hell cycle. That's how I would lend that extra added umph to the Ghost Rider character.

Hellstormer

07-25-2006, 02:48 PM

Spawn and Hellboy are both great examples of cool gritty cartoons, but they were both done to be aired on HBO so I wouldn't mind seeing GR on HBO but I don't know how many people would actually be tuning in.

FlameHead

07-25-2006, 09:20 PM

Now there's a STYLIZED cartoon.

Spawn had the perfect animation for that character.

Not too cartoony and not too dark -- though it had that dark, scary factor to it. If the same people who did Spawn could work on a Ghost Rider cartoon, we'd have something on our hands then.

Man, Red is gonna **** all over me. Thanks for bringin' this up MM. Sheesh.

I'll get it. I will.

RedIsNotBlue

07-26-2006, 07:23 PM

Man, Red is gonna **** all over me. Thanks for bringin' this up MM. Sheesh.

I'll get it. I will.

http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual%20zoo/they%20walk/gorilla/Gorilla%20471049.jpg

FlameHead

07-26-2006, 07:26 PM

LoL.

I deserve that.

Ghost Ridin'

11-13-2006, 02:24 PM

Ghost Ridin'

11-13-2006, 02:51 PM

If a series was made I would like it to start from the time he sold his soul you know explain how he became ghost rider.

Then I think it should be animated and look like the new ongoing comic series I think most people like that style.
I would also love to see him hunt down a former Ghost Rider that has escaped hell.

Not really sure what network it should be on maybe HBO that way they could put in anything they want like that Spawn animated series that they had on but then you would have to pay to see it so that would suck.

Maybe Spiketv but it may have trouble getting viewers there.
Definatley no Fox network they would just hold it back and get it cancelled.

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

Canadian Rider

11-13-2006, 03:14 PM

The TV shows always bring down the movies. They have less money for the show, meaning less budget for effects etc., meaning the Ghost Rider would end up like the Daredevil movie that was made for TV and was horrible.

GR deserves better. Animated would be even worse.

The Rider is Coming.

CAH

11-13-2006, 03:41 PM

I heard they were going to make a series back when GR had a cameo on the Hulk cartoon show but it never took off.

I'm hoping that if enough people vote and the right people see the support given a show might get made.

After you vote please say why you would like to see a series made, what you would like to see happen in the show, and what network you would like to have it on.

That way we can give them a good foundation of ideas to start from.
Please vote
I'd LOVE to see either a live-action or animated GR series, and I think we may be in luck.

About 3 months ago, when I was "Iron Man", MSJ and I were talknig (PM-ing each other) about what his next projects would be. He told me about an HBO tv series (atleast, he wants it to be on HBO) he was developing (barely even working on it...it was just an idea he had) but did not specify what. I believe he said it was a comic/superhero based show, but hopefully...it's a live-action GR series! They could show some gruesome stuff on HBO!

It'd have to be cheap though, so I would settle with animated GR.

He also said that anything he's working on will take a backseat to GR2! :yay::yay::woot::woot:

CAH

Ghost Ridin'

11-13-2006, 04:43 PM

That's nice to hear.

At least we know he is totally dedicated to GR.

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

BIGGUN

11-13-2006, 06:06 PM

as much as a live series would be cool to see...it just wouldnt work imo.
they will need lots of money to make teh character work on screen..would look silly/cheap otherwise.
better to do an animated version...so many ways they can go and not have to be limited by cgi

BURNFOREVER

11-13-2006, 07:37 PM

I voted for a animated GR series ( wow... ), like the Spawn animated or something. But my heart almost told me to vote a llive action GR series.
Guys, curse me forever or not, but i really like the Smallville series.
I know, sometimes it´s dumb and silly, but, come on!, it´s really cool!
A new perspective about the most classic hero of comic books´?
I really like Smallville.
And i think my Hero can hold a series called "Johnny Blaze", just an exemple. The tales of the young JB, the tales before the curse, the races, the begginning of the relationship with Roxanne, Marvel heroes showing up, and, the 3rd season, who knows, the transformation!
Jeez...
It´s only a dream.
It´s just me.
In my head, works, big time!
GR4EVR!

tzar

11-13-2006, 08:02 PM

Is there an audience for it?
I'm looking forward to the film,but I wonder how long would it last.

Midnyte_Sun

11-13-2006, 09:13 PM

I wouldnt mind an animated show so long as the style of the animation is close to the comic. What I mean is something new and unique interms of animation. It just better not be something in the lines of Samurai Jack, nor Anime (or quasi-Anime), or even a CG show, but something truly unique that is intune with the dark nature of the comic itself.

The stories should remain dark and gritty intune with the comic and it should be presented for the Teens to Adult level, not children.

NDX

11-13-2006, 10:35 PM

Unfortunately, I can't see a television series surviving with a character like Ghost Rider. I can't see it garnering enough of a following to earn the needed ratings to keep the series afloat. So I will have to say no.

Marvel should focus on the current movie, and see if this is successful enough (in box office and dvd sales) to require a second movie.

Retroman

11-14-2006, 01:11 AM

A live-action tv series is always going to have less money than a big budget feature film. Especially a character like Ghost Rider is very time consuming and expensive to create so i really doubt that that is going to happen.An animated show has much more possiblities of happening since its less expensive and will probably have more longevity than a live-action GR show.Marvel really seem to be interested in the animated market as well lately.So hopefully they and Sony will see potential in a animated series.

webhead731

11-14-2006, 06:08 AM

A cartoon would be good. Not a cheap cartoon.

A dark one with good animation.:up:

Ghost Ridin'

11-14-2006, 03:39 PM

If they were to make an animated series I'd like it to be dark and gritty and to look something like the comic.

Like right here

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/720/720858/ghost-rider-20060725101137187.jpg

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

Saved

11-14-2006, 03:50 PM

Yeah the comic kicks butt. I think GR 5 comes out tomorrow. Finally!

Canadian Rider

11-14-2006, 09:27 PM

After the cool pic post I think I might have to reconsider the Cartoon/Animated series. I don't know if it is dark if it will be successful, but heck Samurai Jack is pretty different and I love that so ...

Animated Series - changing to a yes ...

TV series ... please for all that is Johnny Blaze ... NOOOO!!!!

Vartha

11-17-2006, 11:38 AM

I'd love to see a Gr animated series. It's a whole lot cheaper and it is possible to put it on a pay channel like hbo and make it so it's not dumbed down.
Hi by the way Ghost Ridin', we're practically neighbors, I'm up in Rogers. :D

Ghost Ridin'

11-17-2006, 07:33 PM

Whoa I'm in Mabelvale but since no one knows where that is I just say near Little Rock.:whatever:

but yeah I'd definately order HBO if GR had a show on it.

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

FlameHead

11-27-2006, 10:28 AM

If anyone is interested, there is an old conversation (also w/ a poll) on a TV series found here: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190674

As for this poll, I selected an Animated version because I really don't think a Live action series could be pulled off on TV. To expensive and the audience just wouldn't be there to support it.