View Full Version : Should SM3 be the last
I loved the spidey moves ( perhapes 1 more though), but IMO i think this should be the last because, i would rather have an amazing spider-man trilogy, then have the sequals deminish over time *Cough* *Cough* * superman 3,4 & batman forever, batman & robin *Cough*. Its not possible for them all to be good, so whats it to be a great trilogy or average saga?
spiderfan08
07-28-2005, 04:28 PM
i am not sure. i guess if everybody wants to stop, they should stop. but i would like to see some more spider-man movies. i don't care if they are by a different director and different actors. so yes i would like to see more spidey movies but don't care who does it.
i also have to say that spider-man can go more than 3. i know batman and superman couldn't but they are dc movies. marvel, i think, has a bigger fan base and will get more people to come see the movie.
GoldGoblin
07-28-2005, 04:36 PM
Spidey movies can go stronger than three.
WalkingDead
07-28-2005, 04:40 PM
I personally think they'll finish up 1-3 with the original cast, then replace people like Tobey and Kirstin for other actors so they can do 4-6. (If they stick to the 2 Trilogies idea)
I would like them to actually do the two Trilogies and then say goodbye for 7-10 years or so, if not longer. As long as the story can hold up and the acting and characters are done well-enough, I say continue. Sequels always don't have to do downhill, but it generally happens because less detail and attention is paid to the characters and situations as time goes on...leading to worse written and worse directed movies.
The Kid
07-28-2005, 05:02 PM
studios are funny.
Batman's crappy sequels happened despite Superman's crappy sequels existing.
The Matrix trilogy debacle happened despite Back to the future trilogy existing.
So I feel inclined to agree wholeheartedly. They never pay attention to history.
Spider-X
07-28-2005, 06:02 PM
there have been about 10 of this exact same thread in the past few months...and i'm gonna say what i usually do:
Why stop making them if they continue to make quality movies? there is such an anormous fan base and so much great original material to go from...so to answer: NO!
ace60galaxy
07-28-2005, 07:17 PM
i am not sure. i guess if everybody wants to stop, they should stop. but i would like to see some more spider-man movies. i don't care if they are by a different director and different actors. so yes i would like to see more spidey movies but don't care who does it.
i also have to say that spider-man can go more than 3. i know batman and superman couldn't but they are dc movies. marvel, i think, has a bigger fan base and will get more people to come see the movie.
agree
End it with a trilogy. I doubt Raimi will return for more and I dont trust any other director.
Dr Freeze
07-28-2005, 07:36 PM
Of course it WON T .
Batman franchise sucked at the end because of the change of direction AND the director choosed for it .
Trust me if Raimi or someone of his caliber (Alex Proyas , David Fincher) remains at the helm of it, we could have a lot of Spidey movies .
After all there s tons of interesting villains which could make for great entertainment on the big screen
So I really hope it won t be the last of Spidey Movie, only the last one filmed by Raimi since it s time for a fresh start again
spidey207
07-28-2005, 08:15 PM
I'm fairly sure sony is commited to making 6 spiderman films. I heard that a while ago, like right after sm2. I think they will make 6.
Nirvana
07-28-2005, 08:19 PM
No way. We still need to see the better villains like Lizard, Venom, and Scorpion. When they make one with Venom devote the whole movie to Venom and put aside the love story and Peter's life.
CConn
07-28-2005, 08:30 PM
If SM3 is an average film, yes, they should stop. If SM3's good or great, they should continue.
AmerikazMostWanted
07-28-2005, 08:32 PM
dude honestly dude seriosuly bro dude what I think dude bro what i think should like happen bro dude I think seriouly I think Spiderman 3 should end the movies thats my opinion
spiderfan08
07-28-2005, 08:34 PM
If SM3 is an average film, yes, they should stop. If SM3's good or great, they should continue.
i agree somewhat. i think if #3 does well then hell yes continue. but if it bombs, which it won't totally, they will probably just end it.
Dr Freeze
07-28-2005, 08:38 PM
One thing is for sure :
the more it will make money, the more we will get some out of them .
The less it will make, the earliest it will be gone forever
Sadly, that is true. Problem is, they could completey destroy the franchise and everyone will only notice when it's too late - if it sells Happy Meals, then it'll continue...Case in point, the Batman and Superman franchises.
Silver Sable
07-28-2005, 10:01 PM
No let's have more Spidey films! I'm not saying to have 10 of them but at least 5 or 6
The Kid
07-28-2005, 10:20 PM
I still like happy meals...
I just hope Chameleon's lame ass doesnt step foot in any of the movies. He's so lame.
Showtime
07-28-2005, 11:02 PM
I'm fairly sure sony is commited to making 6 spiderman films. I heard that a while ago, like right after sm2. I think they will make 6.
I remember this being the case as well. :spidey:
The Kid
07-28-2005, 11:11 PM
I just hope Chameleon's lame ass doesnt step foot in any of the movies. He's so lame.
topher grace is the chameleon I think because he looks so similar to tobey and they won't have to do too many split screens or other digital illusions when peter and the chameleon fight each other.
:down:(
Showtime
07-28-2005, 11:14 PM
topher grace is the chameleon I think because he looks so similar to tobey and they won't have to do too many split screens or other digital illusions when peter and the chameleon fight each other.
:down:(
I think that is a strong possibility. It makes sense on many levels. I think Topher Grace is a good signing because he could replace Tobey or he could be a villian.
K-pax
07-29-2005, 04:26 AM
It shouldn't end completely after this one. But it should end as a conclusion, as in not another cliffhanger.
blades_shades
07-29-2005, 12:10 PM
Spiderman 3 will not be the last so that can just be taken out of your mind. This might be the last with the current cast but Raimi wants to do more as does Sony and Marvel will pump them out forever. It's not a matter of how many films they make it's the quality of films. Batman had some lousy sequels as did Superman. Spiderman has had 2 great films so far and likely a 3rd great film and considering the character has 40 years of stories to tell it would be ridiclous to think 3 films could tell everything there is about Spiderman. We've seen 2 villains. There will be lots more Spiderman to come as long as the fans keep coming...and they will as long as the films are good.
they can make more as long as they replace tobey
Gamma Burst
07-29-2005, 04:01 PM
Spiderman 3 will not be the last so that can just be taken out of your mind. This might be the last with the current cast but Raimi wants to do more as does Sony and Marvel will pump them out forever. It's not a matter of how many films they make it's the quality of films. Batman had some lousy sequels as did Superman. Spiderman has had 2 great films so far and likely a 3rd great film and considering the character has 40 years of stories to tell it would be ridiclous to think 3 films could tell everything there is about Spiderman. We've seen 2 villains. There will be lots more Spiderman to come as long as the fans keep coming...and they will as long as the films are good.
Nice post.Spider-Man popularity(which was already huge) has become bigger with the movies.Just put the money the previous movies have made and add the money S-M3 is gonna make(itīs probably going to be 2007 biggest movie event).I find it hard that spideyīs franchise is gonna have less than 4 movies.:spidey:
Exabyte
07-29-2005, 07:06 PM
I feel that if your going to go out, then go out on top. Why risk making a bunch of SM movies after this one, when the original cast may not be in it, or the same director. See, Batman only had one good movie back in 89, and then it went down hill Till BB saved its butt and restart the franchise where it should have gone.
The Geek Vault
07-29-2005, 08:20 PM
I think that there should be five.
Gamma Burst
07-29-2005, 08:24 PM
As long as they are well done,i donīt mind to see 6 movies(as it was said previously):):spidey:
OobeDoobBenubi
07-29-2005, 08:42 PM
I think that this movie should HINT at future sequel possibilities & I also think it should end with it NOT setting up any sequel.
I feel that if your going to go out, then go out on top. Why risk making a bunch of SM movies after this one, when the original cast may not be in it, or the same director. See, Batman only had one good movie back in 89, and then it went down hill Till BB saved its butt and restart the franchise where it should have gone.
:up: :up: :up: :up:
Agent 194
07-29-2005, 09:47 PM
If it does go on....I say a new director....perhaps a new cast....and definitely a new approach. Say maybe,...having more Spider-Man and less Dawson's Creek.
Gamma Burst
07-29-2005, 11:46 PM
A new cast will come for sure.The approach will depends on Sonyīs decision to keep Raimi and the crew or not.:spidey:
bweurk
07-30-2005, 02:08 AM
why having a last movie??? why not making as many movies as they can... i don't see how it would hurt us.. if Spider-man 4 is a crap, then don't buy it.. do you think that if Spidey 4 is a crap it will hurt your appreciation of the three first movies??
spund
07-30-2005, 02:11 AM
There are way too many cool villains to stop at 3 movies. Though if they start considering Rocket Racer, maybe THEN it'll be time to quit.
DeGenerate10
07-30-2005, 05:27 AM
I'd say if all main characters Tobey, Kristen, and company signed on to do more than 3 films than go for it. If they can't get the cast and Raimi to do more than 3 films than no. Keep the cast or no more movies.
spider-jide
07-30-2005, 08:55 AM
Surprisingly enough, more crap than usual got thrown around on these spidey boards during my absense and just like clockwork, it was inevitable for me to return and tell it how it is.
Should sm3 be the last? Thats a good question that has been discussed many times before but with the abundance of stupid threads and ideas being pasted all over the place, this thread in particular stands out as being somewhat intelligent and I dare say, underrated.
If Raimi gives us a script on the intermediate level of sm1 and 2 then yes, I say they should stop at sm3 and Marvel should then concentrate on buying back the rights for the spidey movies because it will then be clear that the movies aren't getting significantly better.
One thing you have to give Raimi and his goons at sony credit for is their marketng strategy and their ability to conjur up mass hype but unfortunately for them, its now become a case of, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me for a third time, you can all go to hell!
I find it bizzare that some "die-hard" spidey fans are willing to accept the mediocre standards of these movies but are the same ones who come up with the lamest logic and stupid ideas and bang on about 40+ years of source material, blah blah blah.
If there are 40+ yeras of source material why are the movies so pathetically average, especially with a die-hard fan at the helm of the movie?
On the other hand, if by some luck, Raimi decides to direct his "hard" efforts into giving us a real spider-man movie, decent script, dialogue, better action and all round entertaining movie that doesn't require skipping to the action scenes once released on dvd, then by all means let the franchise go on and continue. Afterall, we do have more than enough source material to extract ideas from to tell incredible stories with the movies.
There's this retarded notion going around since the 1st official trailer of sm1 that if Maguire, Raimi and Dunst quit or whatever then the movies should stop. Bull****. Maguire of all people does not make spider-man great, neither does Raimi and neither dose Dunst especially. All this crap about how the batman movies sucked due to the change of the lead character is irrelevent. The batman movies fell into the suck-vortex because the movies themselves sucked, the script sucked, the dialogue sucked, the directing sucked and the action sucked.
If the leads in the sm movies dissapear after sm3, thats absoloutly fine with me. Tobey's not impresively spectacular with the character as it is and brings no real dynamic dexterity to the character, he pretty much plays the same tired role in all his movies. I welcome anyone else who is capable and has knowledge of the pp/spider-man character. Dunst isn't even worth discussing.
With all that said, I really hope sm3 does what the previous spidey movies were supposed to do and if the leads want to stay which I doubt, good for them, if they want to leave, they all know where the door is. :o
spider-jide
07-30-2005, 08:57 AM
If they can't get the cast and Raimi to do more than 3 films than no. Keep the cast or no more movies.
This is exactly the sort of garbage I'm talking about :o
cant say i disagree with you spider-jide, they need a fresh start with some real actors and scripts, i thinki molina was the only good decision made in the past two films
spider-jide
07-30-2005, 10:48 AM
cant say i disagree with you spider-jide, they need a fresh start with some real actors and scripts, i thinki molina was the only good decision made in the past two films
Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about. :up: :up:
Agent 194
07-30-2005, 11:39 AM
If the leads in the sm movies dissapear after sm3, thats absoloutly fine with me. Tobey's not impresively spectacular with the character as it is and brings no real dynamic dexterity to the character, he pretty much plays the same tired role in all his movies. I welcome anyone else who is capable and has knowledge of the pp/spider-man character. Dunst isn't even worth discussing.
With all that said, I really hope sm3 does what the previous spidey movies were supposed to do and if the leads want to stay which I doubt, good for them, if they want to leave, they all know where the door is. :o
I agree that Tobey has never done it for me. I never have bought him as Peter or Spider-Man. And while I've always been thrilled that the movies and a character that I love have done well, I don't feel that Raimi's vision of Spider-Man fits mine. At least I've always felt more could be done with it.
SuperNewGuy
07-30-2005, 12:01 PM
I agree that Tobey has never done it for me. I never have bought him as Peter or Spider-Man. And while I've always been thrilled that the movies and a character that I love have done well, I don't feel that Raimi's vision of Spider-Man fits mine. At least I've always felt more could be done with it.
Agreed. I'd say Raimi did a pretty good job with the movies overall, but there's still a lot of room for improvement. This can only be realized by a different director with a different vision. Not to bring up the whole organic web argument again but a director who makes this big of a change obviously doesn't have a vision that really jives with the spirit of the comics.
spider-jide
07-30-2005, 12:03 PM
I agree that Tobey has never done it for me. I never have bought him as Peter or Spider-Man. And while I've always been thrilled that the movies and a character that I love have done well, I don't feel that Raimi's vision of Spider-Man fits mine. At least I've always felt more could be done with it.
Most definately. I appreciate Raimi giving us movies that the majority of viwers can show appreciate for and for what it is but imo appreciation is shown for what I consider to be underwhelming reasons. I'd rather Raimi adhere a lot closer to the source material, envisioning a spidey movie where we can take all the greatness from the comics and then expand upon it. Only then can I truelly be greatful.
Surprisingly enough, more crap than usual got thrown around on these spidey boards during my absense and just like clockwork, it was inevitable for me to return and tell it how it is.
Should sm3 be the last? Thats a good question that has been discussed many times before but with the abundance of stupid threads and ideas being pasted all over the place, this thread in particular stands out as being somewhat intelligent and I dare say, underrated.
If Raimi gives us a script on the intermediate level of sm1 and 2 then yes, I say they should stop at sm3 and Marvel should then concentrate on buying back the rights for the spidey movies because it will then be clear that the movies aren't getting significantly better.
One thing you have to give Raimi and his goons at sony credit for is their marketng strategy and their ability to conjur up mass hype but unfortunately for them, its now become a case of, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me for a third time, you can all go to hell!
I find it bizzare that some "die-hard" spidey fans are willing to accept the mediocre standards of these movies but are the same ones who come up with the lamest logic and stupid ideas and bang on about 40+ years of source material, blah blah blah.
If there are 40+ yeras of source material why are the movies so pathetically average, especially with a die-hard fan at the helm of the movie?
On the other hand, if by some luck, Raimi decides to direct his "hard" efforts into giving us a real spider-man movie, decent script, dialogue, better action and all round entertaining movie that doesn't require skipping to the action scenes once released on dvd, then by all means let the franchise go on and continue. Afterall, we do have more than enough source material to extract ideas from to tell incredible stories with the movies.
There's this retarded notion going around since the 1st official trailer of sm1 that if Maguire, Raimi and Dunst quit or whatever then the movies should stop. Bull****. Maguire of all people does not make spider-man great, neither does Raimi and neither dose Dunst especially. All this crap about how the batman movies sucked due to the change of the lead character is irrelevent. The batman movies fell into the suck-vortex because the movies themselves sucked, the script sucked, the dialogue sucked, the directing sucked and the action sucked.
If the leads in the sm movies dissapear after sm3, thats absoloutly fine with me. Tobey's not impresively spectacular with the character as it is and brings no real dynamic dexterity to the character, he pretty much plays the same tired role in all his movies. I welcome anyone else who is capable and has knowledge of the pp/spider-man character. Dunst isn't even worth discussing.
With all that said, I really hope sm3 does what the previous spidey movies were supposed to do and if the leads want to stay which I doubt, good for them, if they want to leave, they all know where the door is. :o
thanks man, i just thought i would make a thread about the movie and its possible sequels, insteed of ranting about the villians
Rizpower
07-30-2005, 01:05 PM
If they completely revamp the franchise so it doesn't suck. I could see an even bigger Spidey franchise.
American_Hobo
07-30-2005, 02:07 PM
I loved the spidey moves ( perhapes 1 more though), but IMO i think this should be the last because, i would rather have an amazing spider-man trilogy, then have the sequals deminish over time *Cough* *Cough* * superman 3,4 & batman forever, batman & robin *Cough*. Its not possible for them all to be good, so whats it to be a great trilogy or average saga?
no, they shouldn't end at 3 because we need to see Venom
I've no doubt we'll see Venom if they continue the movies (especially if Raimi leaves after 3) - mostly likely Carnage, too. Both appeal to the MTV Spawn-loving crowd, nevermind the fact that both are incredibly boring characters.
Gamma Burst
07-30-2005, 11:55 PM
If they completely revamp the franchise so it doesn't suck. I could see an even bigger Spidey franchise.
I could see that too.Spidey has so much potential to explore:spidey:
comicgirl
07-31-2005, 04:27 PM
I loved the spidey moves ( perhapes 1 more though), but IMO i think this should be the last because, i would rather have an amazing spider-man trilogy, then have the sequals deminish over time *Cough* *Cough* * superman 3,4 & batman forever, batman & robin *Cough*. Its not possible for them all to be good, so whats it to be a great trilogy or average saga?I think 3 should be it...eventually, Hollywood is going to screw it up
spider-jide
07-31-2005, 05:11 PM
I think 3 should be it...eventually, Hollywood is going to screw it up
Too late, hollywood botched it from exactly the moment peter parker uttured his 1st sentence.. :o
TheBat812
07-31-2005, 06:32 PM
i am not sure. i guess if everybody wants to stop, they should stop. but i would like to see some more spider-man movies. i don't care if they are by a different director and different actors. so yes i would like to see more spidey movies but don't care who does it.
i also have to say that spider-man can go more than 3. i know batman and superman couldn't but they are dc movies. marvel, i think, has a bigger fan base and will get more people to come see the movie.
the two most popular superheroes that everybody knows about are Superman and Batman, so don't give me that ****. also, i don't want more than a trilogy. 3 films just works perfectly.
Gamma Burst
07-31-2005, 11:59 PM
I donīt care about superman or batman.Spider-Man is equally popular nowadays,so it would make the 3 most popular characters.If S-M3 is good,bring on the fourth film.:spidey:
Kevin Roegele
08-01-2005, 02:47 AM
studios are funny.
Batman's crappy sequels happened despite Superman's crappy sequels existing.
The Matrix trilogy debacle happened despite Back to the future trilogy existing.
So I feel inclined to agree wholeheartedly. They never pay attention to history.
How is that funny? Studios care about cash, not quality. Batman and Superman movies make a lot of money. And no-one tries to make a bad film, it's just very hard to make a good film. It's very hard to make a film, period.
Mr. Socko
08-01-2005, 08:41 AM
I don't think this cast and crew will return after Spiderman 3. I could see it being created by differnet people after 3. Another triolgy, another cast and crew.
WalkingDead
08-01-2005, 11:05 AM
I don't think this cast and crew will return after Spiderman 3. I could see it being created by differnet people after 3. Another triolgy, another cast and crew.
That's exactly what I expect...
Tobey, Kirsten, and Raimi will probably leave after this one. Certain actors will come back. I imagine J.K. Simmons and Rosemary and a few other supporting rolers would come back. Just need a new Director, Peter, and MJ.
Visionary
08-01-2005, 01:13 PM
Doesn't matter, a new director and cast sounds interesting after SM3. If the movies are good to the majority, if they can still crowd a theater, I say keep making them--like I really need to tell them that.:o
spider-jide
08-01-2005, 03:09 PM
I don't think this cast and crew will return after Spiderman 3. I could see it being created by differnet people after 3. Another triolgy, another cast and crew.
Bingo! Thats what I want and think should happen.
the thing is SM is sonys biggest(perhapes only)franchise without they are ****ed, so they will pusg for it to continue. why they didn't do what WB & nolan are plaining we will never no
Agent 194
08-01-2005, 03:51 PM
I don't think this cast and crew will return after Spiderman 3. I could see it being created by differnet people after 3. Another triolgy, another cast and crew.
I say take what's good about these movies,...move forward,and in a slightly different direction and make them better. Singer seems to be applying that philosophy to the Superman franchise. Take what worked and whatever weems to have liked to and keep going forward.
This would mean in the case of this franchise to me, to make the movies more about Peter's relationship with Spiderman and not MJ. I would love to for him to be more of a "man" and get in his head and hear his problems somehow the way we are privy to his thoughts in the comics. Not the wimp he is in these films. Maybe have him do contemplative voice overs while he's out and about and perfroming heroic deeds the way he does in the books. Not just intros and outros to the movie.
kooguy911
08-01-2005, 07:15 PM
as long as rami stays, the movies will be great because he is the ultimate director
Gamma Burst
08-01-2005, 09:41 PM
I don't think this cast and crew will return after Spiderman 3. I could see it being created by differnet people after 3. Another triolgy, another cast and crew.
Thatīs what i think iīts gonna happen:spidey:
Mr. Freeze
08-06-2005, 06:04 PM
Well see heres the thing eventually people are gonna get tired of Spider-man after say 4 or 5 movies
Besides if Spidey 3 has as much love as spidey 2 did than look for it to do not so good
I mean one reason Spider-man 2 did not make as much money as spidey 1 is b/c people though that the Mj parker love thing wasn't going to be a major factor in the sequel, well they were wrong
Which is why many people i know think spidey 2 as a chick flick
Gamma Burst
08-06-2005, 11:16 PM
I believe spidey 2 didnīt make as much money as the first cos it was released in July.May is a stronger month for blockbusters like these:spidey:
Mr. Freeze
08-07-2005, 01:22 PM
that is also true.
Torche
08-08-2005, 04:55 AM
I dont know if it should be but I have a feeling it will be atleast with the main actors involded in.
I say the Spider Man movies end ...
When Tobey leaves the suit. I dont like actors being replaced, specially the main one. They should wait quite a few years before jumping back on project.
daveswb
08-08-2005, 08:20 AM
well according to sony and marvel they want to do 6 all together.
http://channels.netscape.com/netcenter/men/article.jsp?article=20050725_entertainment_and_rev iews_1.xml
The worst case of a different actor replacing the lead is obviously the batman movies. Which I'm sure no one wants. And of course usually the biggest argument for actors leaving a role is afraid of being type cast.
So what to you do to assure the actors stay? Why do some actors come back to rolls again and again and some do a movie once and say forget it?
I would like to play a little bit of a devil's advocate and say this. The movies thus far have been good. Very well done and so forth. but they haven't been "great". I've been reading Spider-man comics fro a very long time now and there are definetly area's where these movie are lacking. The wise cracks, spideys scientific mind, Showing of his ability to doge attacks because of his reflexes and spider-sense. But maybe bringing in some fresh faces would breath new life into the series and solve some of the issues. When the talk first started about Topher Grace playing ben reilly or possibly being a replacement for Tobey I thought that's dumb, but know that I've had time to think about it well, Maybe having an actor with more of a comedic back ground would be a better pick for spidey, somone that can come up with quips on his own and adlib a bit. Just a thought.
On a final note: For those who say comic books are for kids and that they suck. Obviously has not read many comics. Yes ocassionally there are some bad story arcs, but that comes with the teritory. A charcter that has been around for 43 years is ocassionally going to have a bad story. Besides comic book hereos how many characters have been written about for 50 + years.
And all you really need to do is point to batman begins. There is arguably a great movie. It seems to have appealed to both the comic book and non-comic book crowds. It also definetly answers a lot of the issues that comic book crowds had with the other 4 batman movies. If they didn't care about the comic book geeks they probably wouldn't of made such a good movie, or maybe never made another batman again.
MUGSY
08-08-2005, 09:48 AM
Spidey movies can go stronger than three.
Yep. And there is so much more to expolre throught the Spiderman series.
kamesan
08-08-2005, 09:55 AM
Spider-Man has fought the most villians in Marvel history (that I know of) so theoretically you could do endless sequels w/out running out of material. However, they fxxxed up by not putting Gwen Stacy in the movie from the word go. The problen w/ sequels though is you're never guaranteed to get a quality movie.
Arcturus
08-08-2005, 10:24 AM
SM-3 will not be the last, Sam Rami told me there are going to be 340579035034 movies.
Go figure.
KangConquers
08-08-2005, 05:53 PM
I say keep going. I want to see Venom, The Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion, The Lizard, Kraven etc.
Mr. Marko
08-08-2005, 05:57 PM
Agreed...there are too many stories to tell. They would be wasting perfectly good character possibilities with the characters already set up. They have Lizard and Hobby/GG2 lined up already. I would love to see Venom, Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, Kraven, Scorpion, etc. Man, WAY too many classic villains to show off.
P.S. None of those classic villains include Chameleon! :D
KangConquers
08-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Agreed...there are too many stories to tell. They would be wasting perfectly good character possibilities with the characters already set up. They have Lizard and Hobby/GG2 lined up already. I would love to see Venom, Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, Kraven, Scorpion, etc. Man, WAY too many classic villains to show off.
P.S. None of those classic villains include Chameleon! :D
I'd disagree about the Chameleon one. I think a Chameleon/ Kraven duo would be excellent, with Kraven providing the action, and speeding up the pace, and Chameleon supplying the drama.
make it the last sony, thats all i ask.
hulkamania85
11-10-2005, 04:32 PM
No way. Spider-Man needs to become the next James Bond at best, or get run into the ground like Rocky at worst.
War Lord
11-26-2005, 11:06 AM
I think X-3 should be the last with Xavier and Magneto.
Hugebear
11-26-2005, 09:39 PM
I just hope Chameleon's lame ass doesnt step foot in any of the movies. He's so lame.
The Chameleon would be cool to see in one of the movies. Infact I'd like for him to be the main villain, by himself with no other villain, to see if Raimi can make a great Spider-man movie. I mean its easy to make a action movie, when you have villains with powers.
The Villain
11-27-2005, 10:24 AM
The Chameleon would be cool to see in one of the movies. Infact I'd like for him to be the main villain, by himself with no other villain, to see if Raimi can make a great Spider-man movie. I mean its easy to make a action movie, when you have villains with powers.
I'd like to see Chameleon aswell but maybe it would be good to have him as a behind the scenes type baddie perhaps hiring a few goons to do some jobs etc.
I would prefer to see Mysterio first though and I know Chameleon was Spideys first main baddie he faced but Mysterio has a lot of indications for being used in a future sequel.
It would make sense to introduce Quentin Beck to SP3 since MJ has got more into acting. He could just be Beck but have him act in a sinister way towards MJ during the film.
I hope and pray that Spidey will have atleast six films so we can see Mysterio, Scorpion, Lizard and Electro.
DroolingforGwen
04-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Can anyone give me a successful sequel that contained new directors or a recast in actors??? I can't think of one of the top of my head... as far as six Spiderman movies... i think that will be a complete mess... it just gets redundant after a while... i mean characters like mysterio and chameleon are characters that will appeal to the fanbase... but will they appeal to the general public... I think not... obviously it all depends on Spiderman 3... (which we all no is gonna reek in almost 400 million domestically... but to make three more movies??? That might work if it was done ten years after sm3 (ala Batman Begins)... i want to see them rap it up with four movies tops with the core cast (Tobey, Kirsten, Simmons)... (and just a side note... if Kirsten isn't coming back, why don't they just make them break up at the end??? No one has really mentioned it a whole lot... but they could do something like they did in Batman Begins With Rachel and Bruce... I think that's a better solution than a recast...)
maninthechair
04-16-2006, 05:33 PM
If they can come up with good stories to tell, I say keep the movies coming. They just have to pick the right directors who will take the material seriously. These hollywood idiots don't think the material can hold up so they try to camp it up. As we'll all agee, that's a big ****ing mistake. I think Raimi is done after this but if they replace him with someone good, I'd be up for seeing more of these movies
The Riddler
04-16-2006, 07:25 PM
no way this movie does bad at the box office, so expect the franchise to continue.
Spider-Bite
04-16-2006, 07:54 PM
Can anyone give me a successful sequel that contained new directors or a recast in actors??? I can't think of one of the top of my head... as far as six Spiderman movies... i think that will be a complete mess... it just gets redundant after a while... i mean characters like mysterio and chameleon are characters that will appeal to the fanbase... but will they appeal to the general public... I think not... obviously it all depends on Spiderman 3... (which we all no is gonna reek in almost 400 million domestically... but to make three more movies??? That might work if it was done ten years after sm3 (ala Batman Begins)... i want to see them rap it up with four movies tops with the core cast (Tobey, Kirsten, Simmons)... (and just a side note... if Kirsten isn't coming back, why don't they just make them break up at the end??? No one has really mentioned it a whole lot... but they could do something like they did in Batman Begins With Rachel and Bruce... I think that's a better solution than a recast...)
A batman begins style revamp of spider-man will not work as good as Batman Begins worked simply because the first movie was so close to the original story. How can you tell his origin without making the same exact movie over again? think about it. What can you show?
dorky kid getting bit by spider at science exhib
discovers his powers
becomes a wrestler, gets ripped off, lets the burgular pass,
burgular kills his uncle
becomes a hero
How could they show all that without making the same movie over again? It worked for Batman Begins but that's completely different.
I agree on the Dunst situation. I think Gwen should die in part 4 or 5. by then Dunst would be willing to come back probably.
DroolingforGwen
04-16-2006, 08:23 PM
The biggest problem I have with six movies is the fact that new directors will be taking over and probably new actors as well... and that's when things go sour pretty quickly... i'm not stupid enough to think people can not be replaced but...a continuation that just won't live up to the past movies... what i was trying to get at at the Batman reference was simply taking a break between trilogies... take a four or five year break atleast and get things right rather than cramming in a crappy ass movie... find the right people and the right cast but I am still convinced that six movies is just beating it to death, and while the movies might make money... they will lose quality for sure...
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