Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[The Don Killuminati]

MTV.com said Hurt was replacing Connery as indys dad?

also Shia was 'sworn to secrecy' i wonder if spiels and lucas got pissed...or planned it.

[Golgo-13]

I'm sure Connery will get a mention.

[chamber-music]

MTV.com said Hurt was replacing Connery as indys dad?



I hope not as recasts suck. Also John Hurt is only 2 years older than Harrison Ford.

[The Don Killuminati]

i just found the article, they changed 'replacing connery as his dad' to 'connery isnt coming back, and Hurts role is unknown'

so disregard that last post :D

[CFE]

His role isn't unknown though... :huh:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000457/

CFE

[scifiwolf]

C'mon CFE, I'd expect you to know better than to believe IMDb. Hurt's role is entirely unknown.

[CFE]

C'mon CFE, I'd expect you to know better than to believe IMDb. Hurt's role is entirely unknown.

I DON'T believe IMDB most of the time...but c'mon, John Hurt as Marion's father is perfect casting.

Either way it's great to have him, but I'm pushing for this to be true.

And with Karen Allen involved again AND Hurt's speculation as Abner, it can't be coinsidence.

This better be true.

CFE

[The Amazing Spider-Man]

Except according to Raiders of the Lost Ark, Abner Ravenwood is dead. Although I guess Marion could have been lying, or Abner faked his death for some reason, or there could be some other reason considering how the Indy films jump into the supernatural.

It's all just assumptions though. :o

[CFE]

Except according to Raiders of the Lost Ark, Abner Ravenwood is dead. Although I guess Marion could have been lying, or Abner faked his death for some reason, or there could be some other reason considering how the Indy films jump into the supernatural.

It's all just assumptions though. :o

That's what I said earlier...there's any number of reasons as to why Abner could still be alive.

CFE

[DocHoliday]

According to many sources he is playing Abner.

[블라스]

What about the Einstein rumor? :confused:

[DocHoliday]

What about the Einstein rumor? :confused:

I'd say that is rubbish. The film taked place in 57/58' and Einstein was dead at that age. He was in one of th eprevious Ind 4 drafts though.

[블라스]

Maybe it's Robo-Einstein?

[DocHoliday]

Maybe it's Robo-Einstein?

Perhaps!! I have my fingers crossed.

[Mr. Socko]

Robo-Einstein...lol


I still believe Connery will have a cameo in part 4. He says he's not in it, but I don't believe him and won't believe otherwise until I see the film and see that he's not there.

[Downhere]

I still believe Connery will have a cameo in part 4. He says he's not in it, but I don't believe him and won't believe otherwise until I see the film and see that he's not there.

That would be cool if he did have a cameo, but at this point I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Catman]

I still believe Connery will have a cameo in part 4. He says he's not in it, but I don't believe him and won't believe otherwise until I see the film and see that he's not there.

Same here, man!

[chamber-music]

If I was connery I would atleast make a cameo. Who wants their last screen role to be the League Of Extrodinairy Gentlemen.

[DocHoliday]

Connery in a cameo would be great.

[Penismightier]

Robo-Einstein...lol


I still believe Connery will have a cameo in part 4. He says he's not in it, but I don't believe him and won't believe otherwise until I see the film and see that he's not there.

It would be the ultimate surprise. It would bring down the house at the premiere. Sean Connery's career deserves to go out on the biggest surprise cameo in movie history.

[The Don Killuminati]

If I was connery I would atleast make a cameo. Who wants their last screen role to be the League Of Extrodinairy Gentlemen.

exactly why i think connery will come back, with more than a cameo...

[Penismightier]

It would be hard to cover up if he has a large role. Someone, somewhere would spot him going on an actual set. But at a closed set for one day.....

[Kanon]

MAybe just his voice over the phone... That would be easy to hide :P And would be enough for me to scream like a little girl...

[scifiwolf]

Entertainment Weekly interview with Cate Blanchet (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20054213_20054215_20055688,00.html)
Speaking of, what can you tell me about the Indiana Jones film?
It's phenomenal to be working with Harrison Ford and Spielberg and Karen Allen, all of whom were in one of the most amazing experiences of my childhood, watching that film. And then I'm stepping into the frame. It's a real Zelig moment for me. It was really quite moving when Karen filmed her first entry into the film the other day. You know, Spielberg said, ''I feel so young!'' [Laughs] It was fantastic.
And what is the Spielberg experience?
Look, he's an absolute master. He knows the genre like the back of his hand, and he makes fantastic suggestions. He's really fast and incredibly creative. Like, if a shot's not working, he'd completely change it and do something equally as amazing. And it's weird, because I feel like I know all the movies as an audience [member]. I know all the lighting, I know all the elements. But it's coming together in a new way. And Harrison looks f---ing great.

[Spider-Vader]

You<May 22, 2008

[The Don Killuminati]

whens the teaser trailer coming?

is this going to be the final indy film? something tells me there will be a 5th, and end it there...

[DocHoliday]

A 5th? I dunno...Maybe with Shia's character but I do not see Harrison coming back for one.

[Spider-Vader]

November.
Rumor has it there will be a 5th.

[MaximusCannabis]

Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

I had heard it was going to be Indiana Jones and the City of Gods. I like that title better.

[The Don Killuminati]

A 5th? I dunno...Maybe with Shia's character but I do not see Harrison coming back for one.

He did come back for a fourth....which is shocking enough.

damn, november is a little late for a teaser...id expect a full trailer in January...the release is in may right? if this movie is as huge as that of, say spidey 3, err well if it wants to be as huge, shouldnt some teaser be out by now? i hope publicity explodes soon. or else non indy fans(people obviously dont know indy these days because it was so long ago) wont be as pumped about it... IMO, if i didnt know much about Indy, and i saw a kickass trailer now or close to now, id watch the original 3... and that would make the 4th that much more anticipated.

[The Don Killuminati]

I had heard it was going to be Indiana Jones and the City of Gods. I like that title better.

OptimusCannibis?

[DocHoliday]

November.
Rumor has it there will be a 5th.

I've heard those but I still think if they move ahead with a 5th film it will focus in Shia's character.

[Mr. Socko]

Lucas said the trailer will be out around Thanksgiving.

[The Don Killuminati]

no teaser?

[MaximusCannabis]

OptimusCannibis?
No, he died. I'm his long lost half brother.

[The Don Killuminati]

nice.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Don't know if anyone saw, but in the latest issue of EW there is a pic of Harrison in Indy garb, with his hat brim upturned.

[DocHoliday]

Don't know if anyone saw, but in the latest issue of EW there is a pic of Harrison in Indy garb, with his hat brim upturned.



No I haven't...Someone needs to scan that sucker!!

[Iron Fist]

If this is Ford's last Indy movie, then yes, I think Shia could maybe continue the franchise with stories of his character.

[Mr. Socko]

If this is Ford's last Indy movie, then yes, I think Shia could maybe continue the franchise with stories of his character.


As long as he wears a fedora, I could live with that.

[Iron Fist]

As long as he wears a fedora, I could live with that.

Yeah, I think he should have the attire we all come to know of.

[The Kid]

Shia needs to prove he's a real man before even touching the indy crown...

[Mr. Socko]

Shia needs to prove he's a real man before even touching the indy crown...


Lol. He'll prove it as Indy Jones II or III:oldrazz:

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/gallery/dvdscreenshots/129.jpg


Toht: We are *cackle*cackle* NOT THIRSTY!

[DocHoliday]

A radio for speaking to God!

[Advanced Dark]

If this is Ford's last Indy movie, then yes, I think Shia could maybe continue the franchise with stories of his character.

Will he be called "Junior". :)

[DocHoliday]

Will he be called "Junior". :)

Actually from what we have heard his name is wait for it lol


Mutt Ravenwood

[jdogg willie]

Mutt Ravenwood, are you kidding??? After the 'Indiana Jones' titles, what are we gonna have, the 'Young Ravenwood' titles?

How do you guys think that they'll introduce Shia's movies if he continues the franchise?

[DocHoliday]

Mutt Ravenwood, are you kidding??? After the 'Indiana Jones' titles, what are we gonna have, the 'Young Ravenwood' titles?

How do you guys think that they'll introduce Shia's movies if he continues the franchise?

I dunno but he's a greaser I do not expect him to have the Fedora on although it has been hinted at he will. I actually like the name if he is a greaser and it is his nickname.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

No I haven't...Someone needs to scan that sucker!!

I'll scan it when I get home.

[DocHoliday]

I'll scan it when I get home.

Many thanks, bro.

[Wolverini]

Actually from what we have heard his name is wait for it lol


Mutt Ravenwood

LOL! That would be fun. Indy named after the dog and his son named after a common name for a dog. :wow::oldrazz:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I wanted him to be called henry, so indy starts calling him junior.

i think that would be a nice joke to play..

[MaximusCannabis]

As long as he wears a fedora, I could live with that.

I had on a fedora last night. Can I play Dr. Jones? I even had the whip, nothing else on but I DID have the hat and the whip. So can I?

[aaron]

man i want his shirt sooo bad

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I actually like the name if he is a greaser and it is his nickname.

I hope its his nick name lol otherwise Mutt will be the new Jar Jar :wow:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg

[aaron]

wow.. and not in a good way :(

[The Don Killuminati]

anyone know indys ages in all 4 movies??

[Catman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg

Grandpa Jones!

[GoldGoblin]

Is this movie really gonna be called "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull",and do you know what it's gonna be about?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

anyone know indys ages in all 4 movies??

I think he was born in 1899 or 1900 or 1901.

So with that, Temple took place in 1935, Raiders in 1936, and Last Crusade in 1938. I think that KOCS takes place in 1957.

[Iron Fist]

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg

Interesting.

[jimmylace]

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg


HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA thats ****ing hilarious! I think that should be indys look for the whole movie..."whats that you say young whippersnapper?!....aaagh this cold drink is a'hurtin' ma teef! and that's saying sumthin' cos theyre not even mine! ahahahahahah *laughs hysterically*

[Iron Fist]

Has there been any new news on the Indy video game?

[Mr. Socko]

anyone know indys ages in all 4 movies??


Henry "Indiana" Walden Jones Jr, born July 1, 1899.

Raiders of the Lost Ark: 1936- 36 years old
Temple of Doom: 1935- 35 years old
The Last Crusade: 1938- 38 years old
Kingdom of TCS: 1957- 57 years old

[fu manchu]

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.



IMO, I would rather see no pic, than see that. :csad:

[jimmylace]

IMO, I would rather see no pic, than see that. :csad:

that's what I was thinking!!!! :)

seriously though, on camera, with the make-up etc harrison could pass for late 40's/early 50's. dont let this off-set pic destroy any previous enthusiasm.

[JustABill]

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg
This is why this movie should not have been made. :o

This is why Harrison Ford needs to realize he's starting to look ridiculous in all these action roles. :o

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

when that teaser trailer hits, all of you are going to change you're mind about saying he is too old.

:)

[aaron]

true

[arachnid-guy]

when that teaser trailer hits, all of you are going to change you're mind about saying he is too old.

:)

Speaking of the teaser. Speculation as to when it hits?

[dark_b]

when that teaser trailer hits, all of you are going to change you're mind about saying he is too old.

:)doubt it. we will only say that the movie looks good for an extreme old ford. :dry:
i mean why should humor and action scenes make him look younger?

[sithgoblin]

Why does Indy have to be young to have an adventure?

[The Kid]

I'd watch a clint eastwood western or dirty harry if he made it right now.

why? we need more macho men in cinema to show us what it takes to be a real man... seriously, it's become a wuss-fest and girly-emo-man zone in recent years and I'm sick of it.

300 made so much because it was a breath of fresh air not because it was that good a movie.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Speaking of the teaser. Speculation as to when it hits?



November/early December.

but i would say thanks giving.:yay:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

doubt it. we will only say that the movie looks good for an extreme old ford. :dry:
i mean why should humor and action scenes make him look younger?



but why would you want him to look younger..there not saying he is 35, hes pretty much playing his age..and ford is in better shape than probably all of us on this board..

Would you say jackie chan is too old?

cause that guy dyes his hair to look younger.. ford doesn't.

[Kanon]

November/early December.

but i would say thanks giving.:yay:

You think it come with Bee Movie?

Here's the pic. Not that great IMO but a pic is better than no pic, I suppose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg

Is that Ford or Spielberg? :wow:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

You think it come with Bee Movie?




actually i haven't thought about the film it will be with, the internet pretty much covers the trailers these days..

Thanks giving is a nice family time..people will be at home.:yay:

On the internet watching indy!!!

:cmad:

:o

[Fanticon]

Did I mention i'm fergainst this title...city of gods was so much better.

[Spider-Fan]

What...there might be a 5th :dry:

:sigh: Can't leave a good trilogy alone :csad:

[Bishop2]

I'm afraid that we'll get a new spinoff series with Shia.

[Spider-Fan]

I'm afraid that we'll get a new spinoff series with Shia.

Only thing worse than an Indy 5 :dry:

[dark_b]

but why would you want him to look younger..there not saying he is 35, hes pretty much playing his age..and ford is in better shape than probably all of us on this board..

Would you say jackie chan is too old?

cause that guy dyes his hair to look younger.. ford doesn't.the problem i have wit hthis movie is that spielberg himself said that he is makign this movie for us.
this is not good IMO.
i understand why ford is doing this but spielberg? to bad :dry:

[Bishop2]

the problem i have wit hthis movie is that spielberg himself said that he is makign this movie for us.
this is not good IMO.

Hmmm. I remember he always said that was one of the main reasons he wanted to make The Lost World - popular demand. I wonder if people will have a similar reaction.

[dark_b]

Hmmm. I remember he always said that was one of the main reasons he wanted to make The Lost World - popular demand. I wonder if people will have a similar reaction.well i personal hate when a director doesnt first make the movie because he wants to.
it will show in the movie IMO

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

the problem i have wit hthis movie is that spielberg himself said that he is makign this movie for us.
this is not good IMO.
i understand why ford is doing this but spielberg? to bad :dry:



yeah, but its steven ****ing Spielberg!

you really think he would do a **** indy film.

[Bishop2]

yeah, but its steven ****ing Spielberg!

you really think he would do a **** indy film.

Based on how completely different his style has become ever since he did Saving Private Ryan... yes. Absolutely.

[Mr. Socko]

It's hard to believe Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones....Han Solo, is older than both Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.


Anyway, let's recap Doc Ock in Raiders of the Lost Ark!

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3101/044qa2.jpg
Greatest opener of all time

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2551/040ol2.jpg
Throw me the Idol!

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2457/050su4.jpg
Pwned.

[The Amazing Spider-Man]

"Adios, Sapito" :cwink:

(And before anyone says "his name was Satipo..", yes I realize that. Ford pronounced the name wrong. :oldrazz: )

[Mr. Socko]

He looks far better in this screencap than that candid pic.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/indymutt.jpg

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

^^

Agree and its down to lower lighting, which is how i think Speilberg will shoot him.

:)

[Hunter Rider]

When will we see the first INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL trailer? (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34050)

[scifiwolf]

Yeah, Beowulf is the likely movie to get the teaser. It's good to hear murmurings of John Williams doing some music for the trailer. I also like the thought of footage exclusive to the trailer, kind of like the Batman Begins teaser.

Thanks for the link HR!

[dark_b]

He looks far better in this screencap than that candid pic.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/indymutt.jpg
it all comes down to angle,lighting. and lets not forget that in hte movies everything looks better than in real life. yes the ILM guys will make it work.

but he is still to old :oldrazz:

[dark_b]

yeah, but its steven ****ing Spielberg!

you really think he would do a **** indy film.i think i like every movei from him.

wait(searching on google)....................yeah i htink i like every hes movie. i dont think he ever made a movie where i was bored.

so now someone needs to tell me if SS ever made a movie for the fans. did he? if he did then ok.

[TNC9852002]

Screw these screencaps...Give me a trailer!

-TNC

[Lady Stormcrow]

Has the picture from the latest issue of 'Empire' shown here? It gives me faith for this movie, and Ford doesnt look half bad in it.

[Lord Valumart]

Has the picture from the latest issue of 'Empire' shown here? It gives me faith for this movie, and Ford doesnt look half bad in it.

you didn't have faith when you read the "Indiana Jone" part:huh:

[aaron]

i wanna see the empire pic!

[chaseter]

Shia looks like a pedophile...

[aaron]

his facial hair worries me

[Lady Stormcrow]

i wanna see the empire pic!


sorry, my scanner's gone kapoot. :csad:

[aaron]

its okies

ill just go cry in the corner :p

[Lady Stormcrow]

Okay, I apologise for the poor, poor quality, but my webcam is rubbish, it's dark, and my bedroom light has a green shade over it :o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/olorin/Picture19.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/olorin/Picture16.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/olorin/Picture18.jpg

[Geo7877]

Those are pretty old.

[aaron]

comic con stuff :)

thanks mrs r

[Lady Stormcrow]

Curses, sorry, thought they'd be new!

You're welcome kol_lover! Its my fault because Im not keeping up to speed with Indy news, because of trying to avoid spoilers and so on.

[aaron]

dont say sorry :p

i forget things i do check out the spoilers for all the time

[Cinemaman]

Shia looks like a pedophile...

Actually, he's only 21. And it's just him growing up, so I don't see any connection with pedophile :confused:

[aaron]

i think he was referring to the facial hair growth for the flick :p

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

i think he was referring to the facial hair growth for the flick :p



Is that what they call facial hair these days?

:woot:

[Cinemaman]

i think he was referring to the facial hair growth for the flick :p

But almost every another rebel had that haircut in 50s :confused:

[aaron]

i personally like his 'fuzz' :p

[Lady Stormcrow]

i personally like his 'fuzz' :p

I agree, it makes him look hot. You may even say, he has hot fuzz :woot:

[Bishop2]

i think he was referring to the facial hair growth for the flick :p

It actually looks like someone drew it on with a pencil. :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Somebody call in Michael Shanks from Stargate SG-1 :wow:

[MaximusCannabis]

i think he was referring to the facial hair growth for the flick :p

Ummm... what does facial hair have to do with being a pedophile?

[MaximusCannabis]

It's not confirmed that he's playing Abner, but even if it is, just because Marion thought he was dead doesn't mean he is.

Yeah, don't ever believe a drunken whore.

[Mr. Socko]

Who else would love an Indy cartoon?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7616/indy1sp9.jpg

Art by Patrick Schoenmaker.

[Kritish]

Edit: Nevermind

[블라스]

Who else would love an Indy cartoon?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7616/indy1sp9.jpg

Art by Patrick Schoenmaker.

I would, if it's done in exactly that style :woot: :up:

[Argyle of Sock]

Who else would love an Indy cartoon?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7616/indy1sp9.jpg

Art by Patrick Schoenmaker.

Awww! That's a cute cartoon. Me likey! :woot:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Cut and pasted from Aint It Cool News.com:

“Tyler Nelson’s dancing talent has landed him a part in INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL…

***
... what Tyler understands about the Indiana Jones movie is based on his own scenes that were filmed during the first week of September. Tyler plays a Russian soldier. Only the lead actors were ever given scripts, so Tyler still doesn’t know the entire plot.

“Apparently, the Soviet Army was searching for a [crucifix] skull in the jungles of South America and Indiana Jones was searching, as well,” Tyler said.

The Russian Army tries blackmailing Indiana Jones to help them find the crystal skull by “threatening to kill Karen, his old flame from the Lost Ark.”

Actress Karen Allen of “Raiders of the Lost Ark” fame returns to play Jones’ love interest Marion Ravenwood. Cate Blanchett was cast as the Russian interrogator.

“We took Indiana Jones hostage and managed to find the skull,” Tyler said.

Afterward, Tyler and the other Russian soldiers rejoice in the jungle by wildly dancing and singing to Russian balalaika folk music beside a roaring campfire…

***
… “they were filming us outside of a tent dancing and then turned the camera inside the tent,” Tyler explained his scene. “I saw Harrison Ford strapped in a chair being interrogated. I started to gather they were holding this big crystal-looking thing in the tent and heard someone mention a crucifix skull.”

In the movie, Indiana actor Shia LaBeouf plays Indiana Jones’ son. Jones learns of this and falls in love with Ravenwood again, Tyler said.”

[aaron]

omg that cartoon looks amazing!

is there gonna be one?!

[Rezzo]

George Lucas Hails Maverick Filmmakers, Teases Indy 4
(http://www.tvguide.com/news/george-lucas-maverick/070918-01)
George Lucas is feeling good about television. In his life post-Star Wars franchise, the legendary writer, director, producer, special-effects czar and mega-mogul is still embracing his legacy — the far-far-away galaxy he created for six films that changed the cinematic universe and became a part of world pop culture. But now a new medium will bear the message. In a conversation with TV Guide executive editor Steve Sonsky that began with a discussion of Fog City Mavericks, a Starz documentary (premiering Monday, Sept. 24, at 9 pm/ET) about the history of San Francisco-based filmmakers like himself, Francis Ford Coppola and Clint Eastwood, Lucas also held forth on the status of his two forthcoming television series that will expand the Star Wars saga, his own TV-watching habits, the Internet culture, and why it turned out OK that Sean Connery wouldn't reprise his role as Harrison Ford's dad in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, scheduled for release next May. Here is Part 1 of that conversation.

TV Guide: So, Fog City Mavericks — a wonderful couple of hours. It was great fun to watch.
George Lucas: I'm a firm believer in regional cinema, cinema that's not made by people who live in Hollywood but who live in [places] like Austin or New York City or Chicago, Baltimore, San Francisco. There are several little film communities that exist outside the main center, Hollywood, and who take their ideas from different places and do different kinds of things and have more of a creative say in what they do. This film is about San Francisco. I hope, at some point, somebody makes one about New York and Austin and all of the other places.

TV Guide: It seems almost as much an homage to San Francisco as it does to all of you, the filmmakers. It paints a great portrait of the city as an incubator for artistic individuality.
Lucas: Well, yeah, the thing most people don't understand is that San Francisco has a long tradition of making films, not just having films shot here but actually [hosting] an indigenous film industry. It's very, very small, but the people who live and work here have a different outlook and get their ideas from different sources, and [so] the films come out differently. I think [Mavericks] clarifies that some of the more successful films that have come out of Hollywood actually haven't been made in Hollywood.

TV Guide: What do you think it is about San Francisco that makes that happen? There's a fun quote in the film from [Toy Story director] John Lasseter — who says it's the great food, it's the great wine — but, more seriously, there's also a lot of discussion obviously of the spirit of independence and the nonconformist ethic of San Francisco.
Lucas: Well, yeah. We're free of the institution, the institutionalized creative system, which means that we've been able to do things pretty much on our own without much interference. And even when things do get assigned to us, we still have a very independent way of looking at things. Everyone here kind of thinks outside the box, and Hollywood is the box.

TV Guide: Could you ever do good work in Los Angeles — or do you think it's just not your nature?
Lucas: It's not my nature. I've never worked down there, and I don't see any reason why I ever would.

TV Guide: So what lessons would you impart to young artists trying to fight authority?
Lucas: Well, it's not a matter of fighting authority. It's a matter of realizing that you don't have to go to Hollywood to make movies. A lot of independent filmmakers around this country make movies in their hometowns. You know, there's like a thousand independent films made every year. Not that many of them make it into the mainstream, and what [Mavericks] is about is the ones that do. This is about how even the most mainstream of movies can be made outside the system. And, for a lot of the independent filmmakers who are working outside the system and working all around the country, I think the message of the [documentary] is to stay there. If you become successful, if you make a movie that actually hits the mainstream, that becomes successful, don't move. Stay home. Work out of your own background. Work out of your own milieu. Work out of your own history.

TV Guide: Who are the young filmmakers you see out there, the regional filmmakers who you think are particularly doing wonderful stuff that should be noticed?
Lucas: That's one of those things like, "What's your favorite film?" Whoever I say, somebody else is going to say, "Why didn't you mention me?" [Laughs]

TV Guide: Yeah, it's a loaded question, I know. Come on.
Lucas: There are a lot. There are some great filmmakers who are working, and you see them at Sundance every year, and the problem there is people sort of get sucked into the system and then they lose their voice. And my plea is for them to stay outside the system and try to work out of their heart instead of out of their pocketbook. Because ultimately, if you're good at it… Those of us in San Francisco and New York and Austin, especially, we've done financially fine. We're not sacrificing anything by not working down there.

TV Guide: Yeah, I think you've done OK, George.
Lucas: Yeah, and so have Francis [Coppola] and John Lasseter…. If you've got the talent and you can tell a story, you'll do fine. And if you want to be personal and esoteric and not go to a mass market, then you will struggle to tell your story, which is equally valid. But to go and get paid a lot of money not to tell your story is definitely not what you want to do.

TV Guide: As the documentary unfolds, telling the history of San Francisco filmmaking, there are some just amazing parallels — your nearly fatal car accident at 18 and the nearly fatal stagecoach accident of [motion-picture camera inventor] Edward Muybridge put each of you on new paths that maybe wouldn't have been the case otherwise, as filmmakers.
Lucas: [Laughs] Well, life throws you funny curves, and you can either look at it as a detour, or you can look at it as an opportunity. In both cases, we reassessed our priorities, which people do when they're in those kinds of life-and-death situations. You end up doing what's more in your heart, what you actually want to do rather than what you think you have to do, because you have a feeling that you're kind of on borrowed time and you don't want to waste it.

TV Guide: Do you still have that feeling at this point in your life?
Lucas: I still feel very lucky about what happened and grateful that I managed to survive and have a life after that. And so I try to make the most of every day, and I have ever since then. I was basically putzing around, not doing anything. It sort of said, "Hey, wake up and make something out of your life because it may be over before you think."

TV Guide: More amazing serendipity in the history of San Francisco filmmakers: If THX 1138 [Lucas' ambitious 1971 box-office failure, which nearly bankrupted his friend and producer Francis Coppola's American Zoetrope studio] was a hit, Coppola might not have made The Godfather.
Lucas: [Laughs] Possibly, yeah. You know, you sort of have to look at opportunities and sometimes things come along and you sort of, even though you want to reject them outright, you have to look at the other side of it. Fortunately, in terms of The Godfather, Francis would never have done that just for the money, no matter what. He had to find something that he loved about it. He had to find the hook that would get him into it, to say, "How can I make this mine? I know something about Italians, I know something about the Mafia and I know something about family" — and those are things that really interested him. And so he turned it into his movie. And you know, it's different than the book, and obviously he had to fight very hard against the system to do that. Fortunately, he managed to survive and overcome all of the influences. That was literally going to be a very cheap gangster movie starring Kirk Douglas, and he made it something extraordinary.

TV Guide: Do you ever see you and Francis working together again?
Lucas: You never know. We're all kind of loose. We help each other out, basically. And you know, we obviously are friends and communicate with each other. So there's no formal reality to all of it. It's just basically what happens when people are friends and hang out together.

TV Guide: Speaking of friends working together... you and Steven Spielberg — how's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull going?
Lucas: Very well. Very well indeed.

TV Guide: Were you disappointed about Sean Connery not coming out of retirement to play Indy's father?
Lucas: No, in the end, it turned out better. In the beginning, he was just in a little bit of it, and I think with the strength of Sean Connery, people would've wanted him to go all the way through the whole thing, and the story really didn't work that way. And so I think there would've been some disappointment that [his character] dropped out partway through the movie. By having somebody else fill that role, you lose him without any regret, so to speak, even though we got a great actor to play the part. And I mean, he's not his father, so it's much easier....

TV Guide: You mean [the other actor] is not playing Indy's father?
Lucas: That's right. It's just a completely different character, so you're not invested in him in any way. The fact that that character, after the first part of the movie, isn't needed doesn't become a problem. Whereas I think with the scene we had, where [Indy] says goodbye to his dad, everybody was, "Wait a minute! Isn't he coming back?" So in the end, I think it turned out for the best. Sean just retired and he wants to stay retired, and I understand that. [Laughs] I think he just said, "Look, I've done it, I've done it." He was very tempted, you know, and we talked for a long time. But in the end, he just said, "Eh, I'm playing golf."

TV Guide: Anything about the film that's been out there, wrong Internet buzz, that you want to correct?
Lucas: Well, I don't really read the Internet buzz.

TV Guide: Probably healthy.
Lucas: Yeah, I don't get involved in all that. A film is what it is. And you know, I think it's turned out well. It's very funny, it's very exciting, and it's everything that the other ones were. I can't wait to see it! [Laughs]

Coming Thursday in TVGuide.com Interviews & Features: George Lucas shares an in-depth update on the two upcoming Star Wars TV series and laments the loss of one of his favorite TV programs.

Talks a bit about the new film

[Kanon]

hate to say it, but Lucas is right about Connery and the fans wanting more of him in the movie...

Who else would love an Indy cartoon?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7616/indy1sp9.jpg

Art by Patrick Schoenmaker.

An indy cartoon would be the best way to keep indy around and around. I would love one, and I think, we will eventually get one...

[aaron]

whats that cartoon pic from?

[Rezzo]

whats that cartoon pic from?

Cartoon :huh:

New Indiana Jones header illustration (http://www.theraider.net/news/fullstory_theraidernet.php?id=309)

If you want to check out more of his stuff then check here CreamDog (http://www.creamdog.net/) or here The Trumpet Parade (http://patrickschoenmaker.blogspot.com/)

[aaron]

thanks :)

[chamber-music]

Who's Jim Broadbent Playing?

[DocHoliday]

Who's Jim Broadbent Playing?

A think he basically replaces Brody. He works at the University.

[aaron]

is he gunna be playing an american?

i loved his accent in gangs of new york

[Mr. Socko]

Thanks for posting Bauer. Be sure to update us on Thursday with Part II :up:


An indy cartoon would be the best way to keep indy around and around. I would love one, and I think, we will eventually get one...

If Indy 4 is a success, a cartoon from Lucasfilm would be pretty much guaranteed, I bet!

[aaron]

i hope :heart:

[DocHoliday]

is he gunna be playing an american?

i loved his accent in gangs of new york

No clue. I doubt it.

[aaron]

such a good actor :heart:

[DocHoliday]

such a good actor :heart:

He is a very capable actor. Most importantly if it is a relatively small part he can bring some gravitas and importance to it.

[Golgo-13]

Cut and pasted from Aint It Cool News.com:

“Tyler Nelson’s dancing talent has landed him a part in INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL…

***
... what Tyler understands about the Indiana Jones movie is based on his own scenes that were filmed during the first week of September. Tyler plays a Russian soldier. Only the lead actors were ever given scripts, so Tyler still doesn’t know the entire plot.

“Apparently, the Soviet Army was searching for a [crucifix] skull in the jungles of South America and Indiana Jones was searching, as well,” Tyler said.

The Russian Army tries blackmailing Indiana Jones to help them find the crystal skull by “threatening to kill Karen, his old flame from the Lost Ark.”

Actress Karen Allen of “Raiders of the Lost Ark” fame returns to play Jones’ love interest Marion Ravenwood. Cate Blanchett was cast as the Russian interrogator.

“We took Indiana Jones hostage and managed to find the skull,” Tyler said.

Afterward, Tyler and the other Russian soldiers rejoice in the jungle by wildly dancing and singing to Russian balalaika folk music beside a roaring campfire…

***
… “they were filming us outside of a tent dancing and then turned the camera inside the tent,” Tyler explained his scene. “I saw Harrison Ford strapped in a chair being interrogated. I started to gather they were holding this big crystal-looking thing in the tent and heard someone mention a crucifix skull.”

In the movie, Indiana actor Shia LaBeouf plays Indiana Jones’ son. Jones learns of this and falls in love with Ravenwood again, Tyler said.”

Sounds cool. More talk of crucifixes...? Christianity? First the Ark (jewish) then the Grail (Christian), then there was the 'Cross of Coronado'.....

And wasn't somene of here complaining about this movie not having a Christian artifact as the theme..?:cwink:

[sithgoblin]

Cut and pasted from Aint It Cool News.com:

“Tyler Nelson’s dancing talent has landed him a part in INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL…

***
... what Tyler understands about the Indiana Jones movie is based on his own scenes that were filmed during the first week of September. Tyler plays a Russian soldier. Only the lead actors were ever given scripts, so Tyler still doesn’t know the entire plot.

“Apparently, the Soviet Army was searching for a [crucifix] skull in the jungles of South America and Indiana Jones was searching, as well,” Tyler said.

The Russian Army tries blackmailing Indiana Jones to help them find the crystal skull by “threatening to kill Karen, his old flame from the Lost Ark.”

Actress Karen Allen of “Raiders of the Lost Ark” fame returns to play Jones’ love interest Marion Ravenwood. Cate Blanchett was cast as the Russian interrogator.

“We took Indiana Jones hostage and managed to find the skull,” Tyler said.

Afterward, Tyler and the other Russian soldiers rejoice in the jungle by wildly dancing and singing to Russian balalaika folk music beside a roaring campfire…

***
… “they were filming us outside of a tent dancing and then turned the camera inside the tent,” Tyler explained his scene. “I saw Harrison Ford strapped in a chair being interrogated. I started to gather they were holding this big crystal-looking thing in the tent and heard someone mention a crucifix skull.”

In the movie, Indiana actor Shia LaBeouf plays Indiana Jones’ son. Jones learns of this and falls in love with Ravenwood again, Tyler said.”

Someone's gonna get sued! :wow:

[DocHoliday]

Based on what CHUD and IESB said it's alien in origin

[aaron]

god i hope so!

is the area 51 stuff still in?

[scoobydude]

oh man i can't wait to see this.. it kinda sucks sean connery isn't playing Indy's dad tho.

[aaron]

but if it was only gonna be a tiny part im happy hes not in it

[DocHoliday]

god i hope so!

is the area 51 stuff still in?

According to CHUD and IESB yes.

[Mr. Socko]

I just picked up all Indy films on VHS. Brand new cases and the seal is still intact on all 3, never been viewed.


These will go in the memorabilia section.

[DocHoliday]

I just picked up all Indy films on VHS. Brand new cases and the seal is still intact on all 3, never been viewed.


These will go in the memorabilia section.

Kudos! Did it come with an episode of Young Indy?

[Kanon]

Sorry if it has been posted before, I've been wanting to post a link to this kind of stuff, but something always get in the way :)

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1.htm

[aaron]

yeyyy love the ufo/aliens idea

[DocHoliday]

yeyyy love the ufo/aliens idea

I did not at first a few years ago but with it taking place in the 50's I think i is appropriate on some level.

[Iron Fist]

So Shia is going to be Indy's son?

[MaximusCannabis]

So Shia is going to be Indy's son?

I wonder how Indy feels about his son being a super pudwack?

[MaximusCannabis]

yeyyy love the ufo/aliens idea

So I wonder if the Starchild Skull will be included somehow.

[DocHoliday]

So I wonder if the Starchild Skull will be included somehow.

haha...that'd be cool. With the music too of course.

[MaximusCannabis]

haha...that'd be cool. With the music too of course.

Music???:huh:

[DocHoliday]

Music???:huh:

I thought you were makign a 2001 joke.

[MaximusCannabis]

I thought you were makign a 2001 joke.

Huh? There's a Starchild Skull in 2001?

[DocHoliday]

Huh? There's a Starchild Skull in 2001?

Nono the Starchild shows up in the end and the famous 2001 theme plays.

[MaximusCannabis]

Nono the Starchild shows up in the end and the famous 2001 theme plays.

edit

[MaximusCannabis]

The Starchild Skull is believed to be an alien/human hybrid skull:
http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-m.jpg (http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-large.jpg)http://www.book-of-thoth.com/userimages/2skulls.jpg

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull#_note-0)

The starchild skull came into the possession of Lloyd Pye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Pye), a writer and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge, in February 1999. According to Pye, the skull was found around 1930 in a mine tunnel about 100 miles (200 km) southwest of the Mexican city of Chihuahua, Chihuahua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua%2C_Chihuahua), buried alongside a normal human skeleton exposed and lying supine on the surface of the tunnel.

The skull is abnormal in several aspects. A dentist determined that it was a child's skull, due to unerupted teeth being impacted in the associated upper right maxilla found with the skull. However, the volume of the interior of the starchild skull is 1600 cubic centimeters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E-3_m%C2%B3), which is 200 cm3 larger than the average adult's brain, and 400 cm3 larger than an adult of the same approximate size. The orbits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_%28anatomy%29) are oval and shallow, with the optic nerve canal situated at the bottom of the orbit instead of at the back. There are no frontal sinuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_sinus). The back of the skull is flattened, but not by artificial means. The skull consists of calcium hydroxyapatite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyapatite), the normal material of mammalian bone, but there is an overload of collagen in it, much more than is usual for human bone.

Carbon 14 dating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating) was performed twice, the first on the normal human skull at the University of California at Riverside in 1999, and on the Starchild skull in 2004 at Beta Analytic in Miami, the largest radiocarbon dating laboratory in the world. Both independent tests gave a result of 900 years ± 40 years since death. DNA testing at Trace Genetics in 2003 recovered mitochondrial DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA) and determined that the child had a human mother, though it was not the child of the skull found with it. Its mother did belong to a known Native American haplogroup, haplogroup C. However, useful lengths of nuclear DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_DNA) for further testing could not be recovered. Later testing in 2004 at the Royal Holloway Institute [1] (http://www.rhul.ac.uk/Biological-Sciences/) at the University of London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_London) revealed unexplained "fibers" in the bone of the skull and a reddish residue in the cancellous bone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancellous_bone), neither of which are known or recorded in any other bone at present existing on earth.

Despite criticism from established science, the skull has gathered great interest within the study of UFOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO) and alien life forms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life). Some contend that it is the skull of a non-human, or a human/non-human hybrid, based on the shape of the skull bearing similarities to the common grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys) representation of aliens. Attempts to extract nuclear DNA to confirm or refute this belief were unsuccessful.

Lloyd Pye believes that the starchild skull is the result of genetic engineering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering) by aliens, creating a human-alien hybrid. Other explanations have included the use of cradle boarding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_board) on a hydrocephalic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus) child, brachycephaly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachycephaly), or Crouzon syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouzon_syndrome).

[DocHoliday]

The Starchild Skull is believed to be an alien/human hybrid skull:
http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-m.jpg (http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-large.jpg)http://www.book-of-thoth.com/userimages/2skulls.jpg

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull#_note-0)

The starchild skull came into the possession of Lloyd Pye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Pye), a writer and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge, in February 1999. According to Pye, the skull was found around 1930 in a mine tunnel about 100 miles (200 km) southwest of the Mexican city of Chihuahua, Chihuahua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua%2C_Chihuahua), buried alongside a normal human skeleton exposed and lying supine on the surface of the tunnel.

The skull is abnormal in several aspects. A dentist determined that it was a child's skull, due to unerupted teeth being impacted in the associated upper right maxilla found with the skull. However, the volume of the interior of the starchild skull is 1600 cubic centimeters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E-3_m%C2%B3), which is 200 cm3 larger than the average adult's brain, and 400 cm3 larger than an adult of the same approximate size. The orbits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_%28anatomy%29) are oval and shallow, with the optic nerve canal situated at the bottom of the orbit instead of at the back. There are no frontal sinuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_sinus). The back of the skull is flattened, but not by artificial means. The skull consists of calcium hydroxyapatite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyapatite), the normal material of mammalian bone, but there is an overload of collagen in it, much more than is usual for human bone.

Carbon 14 dating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating) was performed twice, the first on the normal human skull at the University of California at Riverside in 1999, and on the Starchild skull in 2004 at Beta Analytic in Miami, the largest radiocarbon dating laboratory in the world. Both independent tests gave a result of 900 years ± 40 years since death. DNA testing at Trace Genetics in 2003 recovered mitochondrial DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA) and determined that the child had a human mother, though it was not the child of the skull found with it. Its mother did belong to a known Native American haplogroup, haplogroup C. However, useful lengths of nuclear DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_DNA) for further testing could not be recovered. Later testing in 2004 at the Royal Holloway Institute [1] (http://www.rhul.ac.uk/Biological-Sciences/) at the University of London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_London) revealed unexplained "fibers" in the bone of the skull and a reddish residue in the cancellous bone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancellous_bone), neither of which are known or recorded in any other bone at present existing on earth.

Despite criticism from established science, the skull has gathered great interest within the study of UFOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO) and alien life forms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life). Some contend that it is the skull of a non-human, or a human/non-human hybrid, based on the shape of the skull bearing similarities to the common grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys) representation of aliens. Attempts to extract nuclear DNA to confirm or refute this belief were unsuccessful.

Lloyd Pye believes that the starchild skull is the result of genetic engineering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering) by aliens, creating a human-alien hybrid. Other explanations have included the use of cradle boarding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_board) on a hydrocephalic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus) child, brachycephaly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachycephaly), or Crouzon syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouzon_syndrome).



Oh that is aweome! Thanks for posting that man. Well from I have heard The crystal skulls are just that in the movie. An Alien's skull!

[Octoberist]

it's always interesting to see or read about alien lifeforms in the early 20th century. It has that..pulp vibe that i like. it's always facinating.

[Lighthouse]

The Starchild Skull is believed to be an alien/human hybrid skull:
http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-m.jpg (http://www.alienvideo.net/images/articles/06-11/starchild-skull-large.jpg)http://www.book-of-thoth.com/userimages/2skulls.jpg

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull#_note-0)

The starchild skull came into the possession of Lloyd Pye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Pye), a writer and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge, in February 1999. According to Pye, the skull was found around 1930 in a mine tunnel about 100 miles (200 km) southwest of the Mexican city of Chihuahua, Chihuahua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua%2C_Chihuahua), buried alongside a normal human skeleton exposed and lying supine on the surface of the tunnel.

The skull is abnormal in several aspects. A dentist determined that it was a child's skull, due to unerupted teeth being impacted in the associated upper right maxilla found with the skull. However, the volume of the interior of the starchild skull is 1600 cubic centimeters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E-3_m%C2%B3), which is 200 cm3 larger than the average adult's brain, and 400 cm3 larger than an adult of the same approximate size. The orbits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_%28anatomy%29) are oval and shallow, with the optic nerve canal situated at the bottom of the orbit instead of at the back. There are no frontal sinuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_sinus). The back of the skull is flattened, but not by artificial means. The skull consists of calcium hydroxyapatite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyapatite), the normal material of mammalian bone, but there is an overload of collagen in it, much more than is usual for human bone.

Carbon 14 dating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating) was performed twice, the first on the normal human skull at the University of California at Riverside in 1999, and on the Starchild skull in 2004 at Beta Analytic in Miami, the largest radiocarbon dating laboratory in the world. Both independent tests gave a result of 900 years ± 40 years since death. DNA testing at Trace Genetics in 2003 recovered mitochondrial DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA) and determined that the child had a human mother, though it was not the child of the skull found with it. Its mother did belong to a known Native American haplogroup, haplogroup C. However, useful lengths of nuclear DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_DNA) for further testing could not be recovered. Later testing in 2004 at the Royal Holloway Institute [1] (http://www.rhul.ac.uk/Biological-Sciences/) at the University of London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_London) revealed unexplained "fibers" in the bone of the skull and a reddish residue in the cancellous bone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancellous_bone), neither of which are known or recorded in any other bone at present existing on earth.

Despite criticism from established science, the skull has gathered great interest within the study of UFOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO) and alien life forms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life). Some contend that it is the skull of a non-human, or a human/non-human hybrid, based on the shape of the skull bearing similarities to the common grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys) representation of aliens. Attempts to extract nuclear DNA to confirm or refute this belief were unsuccessful.

Lloyd Pye believes that the starchild skull is the result of genetic engineering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering) by aliens, creating a human-alien hybrid. Other explanations have included the use of cradle boarding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_board) on a hydrocephalic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus) child, brachycephaly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachycephaly), or Crouzon syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouzon_syndrome).

Where does this sound familiar.....


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/Lighthouse27/2001-baby.jpg

[DocHoliday]

Where does this sound familiar.....


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/Lighthouse27/2001-baby.jpg



Yeah when I hear Starchild that is what pops in my mind first.

[scifiwolf]

Since this thread is in danger of being dormant for a week, I'll post a bit of news. This is from The Other Paper (http://www.theotherpaper.com/top9-20/substory3.htm), regarding John Williams' upcoming involvement in the movie.

What’s the current project you’re working on?

Well, I just actually put pen down on a viola concerto. And I will be doing a week for the New York Philharmonic here, and then I’ll be coming out to Columbus for one day and I’ll be looking forward to meeting the orchestra. I think they’ll be great. And then I’ll be home in California the first of October to start on the next Indiana Jones.


Are you just going to incorporate music from the earlier movies, or are you writing any new melodies?

I’ll be able to tell you in about two weeks.
Hit the link for more of the interview. Not much about Indy, but a good read anyway.

[DocHoliday]

Awesome I can't wait to hear some tracks!

[Arkady Rossovich]

So,any new word on the movie?This Indiana Jones title is new to me.

[Bishop2]

So,any new word on the movie?This Indiana Jones title is new to me.

That came out two or three weeks back. Ummm, I'm not sure what else you might've missed in that time. The spoilers from that one soldier extra, perhaps.

[The Don Killuminati]

what do yall want the teaser to be like?

[Dr. Watson]

The AICN report about this guy (Tyler Nelson) is a page back. This has new spoilers as well as the reprocussions for his yaking.

Major spoilers in article so stay away if you don't want to know

September 25, 2007 -- A BIG-mouthed extra working on the new "Indiana Jones" flick has blown his fledgling movie career to smithereens by spilling the film's major plot points.
Director Steven Spielberg and producer George Lucas made the entire cast and crew of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" sign nondisclosure agreements. But Tyler Nelson - cast as a "dancing Russian soldier" - gave an interview to his hometown newspaper, the Edmond Sun in Oklahoma, in which he revealed that:


* Indy, played once again by Harrison Ford, and the Soviet army are both searching for a priceless skull made of crystal in the jungles of South America.

* The Russians take Indy hostage and then blackmail him by threatening to kill his ex-girlfriend and mother of his son, Marion Ravenwood, portrayed by Karen Allen. Cast as the son is Shia LaBeouf.

* Cate Blanchett plays an evil Russian who grills Indy. "I saw Harrison Ford strapped to a chair and being interrogated," Nelson told the paper.




Nelson's own big scene comes when he celebrates Indy's capture by dancing to balalaika folk music. But it's doubtful the footage of the 24-year-old actor - a professionally trained ballet dancer who studied at the Bolshoi Academy in Moscow - will make it into the final cut. Spielberg, furious Nelson blabbed, has reportedly snipped his scene.
Spielberg's spokesman, Marvin Levy, wouldn't say whether any of Nelson's spoilers are accurate, but noted: "Who knows whether that particular person will ever work in this town again?"
Reached by Page Six yesterday, Nelson told us, "No comment. I'm not supposed to talk about it." But his rep at the Thomas Talent Agency said, "He's in trouble. He's got to know that he can't do that."
Meanwhile, there have been behind-the-scenes machinations to get the story squashed. Nelson got the Edmond Sun to yank the story from its Web site, with an employee there telling us: "We removed it out of respect to a hometown boy." And plot-spoilers posted on Harry Knowles' influential Ain't It Cool News site also vanished. Knowles didn't return our call.
The movie, fourth in the "Indiana Jones" series, is set to hit theaters in May.



http://www.nypost.com/seven/09252007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm

[Dr. Watson]

Someone's gonna get sued! :wow:

You sir, would be right.

[Catman]

The AICN report about this guy (Tyler Nelson) is a page back. This has new spoilers as well as the reprocussions for his yaking.

Major spoilers in article so stay away if you don't want to know

September 25, 2007 -- A BIG-mouthed extra working on the new "Indiana Jones" flick has blown his fledgling movie career to smithereens by spilling the film's major plot points.
Director Steven Spielberg and producer George Lucas made the entire cast and crew of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" sign nondisclosure agreements. But Tyler Nelson - cast as a "dancing Russian soldier" - gave an interview to his hometown newspaper, the Edmond Sun in Oklahoma, in which he revealed that:


* Indy, played once again by Harrison Ford, and the Soviet army are both searching for a priceless skull made of crystal in the jungles of South America.

* The Russians take Indy hostage and then blackmail him by threatening to kill his ex-girlfriend and mother of his son, Marion Ravenwood, portrayed by Karen Allen. Cast as the son is Shia LaBeouf.

* Cate Blanchett plays an evil Russian who grills Indy. "I saw Harrison Ford strapped to a chair and being interrogated," Nelson told the paper.




Nelson's own big scene comes when he celebrates Indy's capture by dancing to balalaika folk music. But it's doubtful the footage of the 24-year-old actor - a professionally trained ballet dancer who studied at the Bolshoi Academy in Moscow - will make it into the final cut. Spielberg, furious Nelson blabbed, has reportedly snipped his scene.
Spielberg's spokesman, Marvin Levy, wouldn't say whether any of Nelson's spoilers are accurate, but noted: "Who knows whether that particular person will ever work in this town again?"
Reached by Page Six yesterday, Nelson told us, "No comment. I'm not supposed to talk about it." But his rep at the Thomas Talent Agency said, "He's in trouble. He's got to know that he can't do that."
Meanwhile, there have been behind-the-scenes machinations to get the story squashed. Nelson got the Edmond Sun to yank the story from its Web site, with an employee there telling us: "We removed it out of respect to a hometown boy." And plot-spoilers posted on Harry Knowles' influential Ain't It Cool News site also vanished. Knowles didn't return our call.
The movie, fourth in the "Indiana Jones" series, is set to hit theaters in May.



http://www.nypost.com/seven/09252007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm


The man is gonna be sued and never work in Hollywood again...but I don't care! :woot:

[aaron]

i hate harry knowles :o

[Bishop2]

i hate harry knowles :o

Me too, but at least he broke a semi-relevant story for once... been years since he did much of that anymore.

[scifiwolf]

I wouldn't give too much credit to Harry for "breaking" the story. The NY Post sort of broke it, while message boards were already talking about it, and AICN reported the Post's story at the same time as other news outlets. At least those other outlets didn't reprint the spoilers like th Post and AICN.

[jimmylace]

lol what a ****! in all fairness, nothing much revealed that the fans didn't know already...

[Excel]

AHAHAHAA what an idiot!

sounds good though!

[Bishop2]

According to a post on CHUD in the past couple of days, Indy and "Mutt" will first learn that they're related while they are stuck in quicksand together.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Indy - I cant believe I met my match with quicksand
Mutt - Before we die there is something I want you to know
Indy - What
Mutt - You are my father
Indy :wow:

[aaron]

Me too, but at least he broke a semi-relevant story for once... been years since he did much of that anymore.

i just hate his sucking up to studios just to get future stuff from 'em

ass kisser :o

[DocHoliday]

Agreed^^

[aaron]

and i can't believe he's married.... LUCKY LADY!!

[DocHoliday]

and i can't believe he's married.... LUCKY LADY!!

And you roll with the punches! :woot:

[Dr. Watson]

Indy - I cant believe I met my match with quicksand
Mutt - Before we die there is something I want you to know
Indy - What
Mutt - You are my father
Indy :wow:

They've reversed the Luke/Vader reveal haha.

[scifiwolf]

I was just thinking, it'd be funny to see the two of them exhibiting the same mannerisms and habits before they find out they're related. Kind of like Arnie and Danny Devito's characters did in Twins. River Phoenix did a great job of channelling Harrison in Crusade, I'd like to see a little bit of that in Mutt.

[sithgoblin]

I hate his name. Mutt. What the hell kind of name is that!

[Iron Fist]

According to a post on CHUD in the past couple of days, Indy and "Mutt" will first learn that they're related while they are stuck in quicksand together.

Interesting.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hate his name. Mutt. What the hell kind of name is that!

Im sure thats just a nick name that just that caught on

[sithgoblin]

Im sure thats just a nick name that just that caught on

That doesn't excuse it from being a terrible name.

[Mr. Socko]

Indy - I cant believe I met my match with quicksand
Mutt - Before we die there is something I want you to know
Indy - What
Mutt - You are my father
Indy :wow:

Indy: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I hate his name. Mutt. What the hell kind of name is that!


Completely agree. Absolutely terrible name. That's taking the "we named you after the dog" bit way too far. All I can do is hope this Mutt stuff is all just a rumor, but I doubt it:csad:

[DocHoliday]

Bro his nickname is definitely Mutt. It says it on his leather jacket in the comic con footage.

[Bishop2]

Bro his nickname is definitely Mutt. It says it on his leather jacket in the comic con footage.

Yeah, "Mutt" is inescapable now that it's on his coat. But CHUD reports that his real name is Abner. Named after his grandfather.

[Dr. Watson]

D*mn, thats a double whammy of a bad name.

[aaron]

abner's an awesome name

[chamber-music]

Yeah, "Mutt" is inescapable now that it's on his coat. But CHUD reports that his real name is Abner. Named after his grandfather.

Mutt/Abner wow :csad:
Thats terrible a name, Hell it makes Short Round sound like a good name.

[Bishop2]

Mutt/Abner wow :csad:
Thats terrible a name, Hell it makes Short Round sound like a good name.

Why was he called Short Round anyway? Yes, he's short, because he's a child. But he wasn't remotely ROUND... :oldrazz:

[Rezzo]

Cate Blanchett Talks Indy IV
We're going to see Butch Blanchett? (http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=21125)

There are many words that come to mind when you think Cate Blanchett. Ethereal, maybe. Fantastically talented, certainly. Agreeably antipodean, even. "Butch" is not one of them. But that's what Blanchett recently told us we could expect of her character in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

“Oh, it’s so much fun,” she says of working on the franchise's fourth movie, “I’ve been having a ball. I went on set [recently] and Steven said, ‘I’ve got five really macho things for you to do today.’ He was so excited about butching me up. And I was such a fan [of the Indiana Jones movies], I grew up on them. I was completely in love with Harrison Ford, and still am. He’s a hottie, he’s definitely stood the test of time. And it’s fantastic to be working in a genre that Steven and Harrison know like the back of their hands. They grew up making these films together; it’s like a family, all the people who’ve worked on this franchise. And they’re so welcoming; it’s a really happy set to be on.”

Spielberg has been doing an admirable job of keeping plot points under wraps, but this certainly adds credence to the rumours doing the rounds that Blanchett's playing a villainess, possibly a Russian. One with a touch of androgyny about her, apparently.

Can´t wait to see her performance :up:

[Redwoods Wolf]

Why was he called Short Round anyway? Yes, he's short, because he's a child. But he wasn't remotely ROUND... :oldrazz:

Short Round was named after screenwriter Willard Huyck's dog. Ironically, Short Round's name was originally taken from an orphan character's name, played by William Chun in film 1951 The Steel Helmet.

Or so says indianajones.de.

[Rezzo]

Wanna Know What Indiana Jones Is Doing This Week?! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34218)

A trusted source got in touch with me yesterday, a wee bit nervous after all the hullabaloo over the loose-lipped Indy IV extra who blabbed a bunch of spoilers and ruined his own career in the process. That extra was an idiot for violating his non-disclosure agreement so prominently, and I’ll bet he didn’t even know he was being an idiot.

So my source is under deep deep deep cover, but they’ve always been reliable in the past and they’ve been contributing to the site for years. When they say something, I can trust it to be accurate and well-intentioned.

My source got in touch to ask if I knew what was being filmed by the Indy IV crew now that they’re on the Downey sound stages. Based on what I’d heard about the script, I was starting to think that something we’d heard about the film was completely wrong, but now I know there’s something to it, and I’m intrigued. Even knowing as much as I know about the film, it’s obvious there are going to be surprises for me, and that’s exciting. I’m not sure how it all ties in, but sure enough... as rumored (and I never really believed it until now), on a sound stage in Downey... they’ve evidently built a reproduction of the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and they’re staging a sequence there even as you read this.

I would lovelovelovelovelovelove to see what this warehouse looks like, considering it’s one of the most iconic locations in any of the three movies so far.

It all sounds exciting to me, and my natural cynicism about this project is slowly eroding in the face of some of the groovy choices they're making as they put this together.

Sounds good :up:

[Iron Fist]

Sounds awesome.

[Golgo-13]

If this movie is tied to the end of Raiders, i don't know how i'd feel about it. The end of Raiders was just classic, and left it open to you, to determine what happened to the Ark next.

I have a funny feeling that the powers of the Ark have been harnessed in some sort of way...but like i said, i'd rather this movie have no connection to The Ark whatso, just in case it sucks....

[Mr. Socko]

Bringing in Marion is fine, but I certainly don't want KotCK to be tied into Raiders of the Lost Ark in plot. The Indiana Jones films are suppose to be like serials, all are sequels but function on their own and don't need to tie into another film in the series.

[Backdrifter]

Bringing in Marion is fine, but I certainly don't want KotCK to be tied into Raiders of the Lost Ark in plot. The Indiana Jones films are suppose to be like serials, all are sequels but function on their own and don't need to tie into another film in the series.

All serials? Have you ever even watched a complete set of actual serials from the 1930s and 1940s?

[Mr. Socko]

All serials? Have you ever even watched a complete set of actual serials from the 1930s and 1940s?


I have seen some but can't claim to have seen a complete set. And what I've seen, they are all stand alone.

Why? Yours match up?

[scifiwolf]

Indy and Marion had history in Raiders, but that didn't take away from the movie. You didn't need to know that history to understand the movie. The same will probably be true of Kingdom. The fact that they have history is what's important, not the specifics. This will be a stand alone movie, and Marion's presence will not negate that.

[GoldGoblin]

Are we gonna see real aliens in this movie that are done in CGI,or is the skull the only thing alienish?

[scifiwolf]

Aliens aren't in the movie. In fact, the only connection to aliens to date has been from the fans running rampant with wild speculation.

[Lady Stormcrow]

I watched Temple of Doom today. Part of me wishes that in later Indy films they'd kept Short Round in them. He's possibly the only Hollywood child side-kick who isnt irritating.
I havent been keeping up to speed with spoilers, but is there any chance of a cameo from Shorty or something?

[Backdrifter]

I have seen some but can't claim to have seen a complete set. And what I've seen, they are all stand alone.

Why? Yours match up?

Each episode does stand alone. But, many serials have characters that return and even have one over arching villain. Star Wars took this idea and ran with it.

It all depends on the serial. There are not firmly set rules about these types of stories and just because Indiana Jones chooses not to make each film stand alone does not make the series bad. Seems like a very silly thing to complain about.

[DocHoliday]

Aliens aren't in the movie. In fact, the only connection to aliens to date has been from the fans running rampant with wild speculation.

...and the mostly reliable sites CHUD and IESB.

[scifiwolf]

Yeah, I know they've reported the alien thing too, but I'd still chalk those reports up to pure speculation. Maybe, I'm just stubborn, or in denial, but I really don't think aliens will be a factor in this movie. If they turn out to be, I suppose that'll be fine, just so long as it's not too Sci-fi channel-ish.

[Speedball]

Those spoilers that were revealed aren't that big. It's stuff we've been speculating about since the casting was announced. If they explained what the skulls did, or maybe how the movie ends, then it would be a spoiler, but this stuff isn't anything to get that worked up about (Raises eyebrow at Spielberg).

[GoldGoblin]

Aliens aren't in the movie. In fact, the only connection to aliens to date has been from the fans running rampant with wild speculation.

^
Good,I was kinda getting worried.

[Bishop2]

Deleted.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It all depends on the serial. There are not firmly set rules about these types of stories and just because Indiana Jones chooses not to make each film stand alone does not make the series bad. Seems like a very silly thing to complain about.

:whatever:

It's hardly silly to complain about the movie being basically dependent on Raiders instead of having a completely original premise. Sounds like you haven't seen the other movies as they are QUITE stand alone films. That's why most people don't know Temple takes place before Raiders. You don't really have to know that. The movies don't need each other and references to other films in the series are merely tongue-in-cheek mentions and not at all relevant to the individual plot.

[Fried Gold]

Indiana Jones chooses not to make each film stand alone...The Indiana Jones films are totally stand alone, much like Bond in that regard. It's not like, say, Back to the Future.

[Bad Superman]

The Indiana Jones films are totally stand alone, much like Bond in that regard. It's not like, say, Back to the Future.

While Indiana Jones films are stand alone, they differ from the Bond films when you talk about continuity and timeline. Bond films, while stand alone, have little or no continuity between them and do not follow a time line.

If there something spoilerish about the new film that breaks the pattern, I don't know. I've avoided spoilers as much as possible.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

If there something spoilerish about the new film that breaks the pattern, I don't know. I've avoided spoilers as much as possible.

Uh yeah. What we do know about the film, which isn't too much, is mostly spoiler stuff that ties this film to Raiders. I mean, the lead female character reprises her role just for starters! There are many other things, which I won't spoil for you.

[Fried Gold]

While Indiana Jones films are stand alone, they differ from the Bond films when you talk about continuity and timeline. Bond films, while stand alone, have little or no continuity between them and do not follow a time line.I said it was like Bond, not the same as. It's like Bond in the sense that you have bunch of characters that take part in a story removed from previous adventures, save for indirect references, or subtle nods to what has gone before (the Ark in the Last Crusade).

[SolidSnakeMGS]

(the Ark in the Last Crusade).

Or Indy smugly reaching for his pistol in Temple towards the end when he faces the pair of swordsman, which is a reference to Raiders despite the fact that Raiders takes place after Temple. You can read what you want into the reference. Maybe Indy learned from his mistake.:cwink:

[Bad Superman]

Uh yeah. What we do know about the film, which isn't too much, is mostly spoiler stuff that ties this film to Raiders. I mean, the lead female character reprises her role just for starters! There are many other things, which I won't spoil for you.

Thanx, I really appreciate that. Are they still in production?

I said it was like Bond, not the same as. It's like Bond in the sense that you have bunch of characters that take part in a story removed from previous adventures, save for indirect references, or subtle nods to what has gone before (the Ark in the Last Crusade).

Got it.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Thanx, I really appreciate that. Are they still in production?

I heard they wrapped already. With Spielberg's insane efficiency at shoots I wouldn't be surprised. Raiders was done in 72 days! But I am not 100%.

[Hunter Rider]

^^^^Awesome avvy :up:

[Bad Superman]

I heard they wrapped already. With Spielberg's insane efficiency at shoots I wouldn't be surprised. Raiders was done in 72 days! But I am not 100%.

If that's the case I'm glad it's basically done. It seems no one was injured and shooting didn't get held up.

It's gonna be a long wait for May 08.

[Cinemaman]

Funny, TDK production has started two-three months ago and they're still filming, while Spelberg has already finished his Indy 4. It's neither good or bad, because every filmmaker works on his projects with his own style, so it can take less or more time.

[dark_b]

Funny, TDK production has started two-three months ago and they're still filming, while Spelberg has already finished his Indy 4. It's neither good or bad, because every filmmaker works on his projects with his own style, so it can take less or more time.whats happening with TDK is a misterry.
looks like a big and epic movie IMO.

spielberg? he is a pro. how long did he film WOTW? a weekend right :woot:

[Cinemaman]

whats happening with TDK is a misterry.
looks like a big and epic movie IMO.

spielberg? he is a pro. how long did he film WOTW? a weekend right :woot:

I really like how Nolan is trying to hide all details, maybe he was a magician in previous life :D

Actually, it took him 72 days (a mit more than two months) to film the movie, production of which usually gets finished after 4-6 months. But the problem was that Spielberg didn't give the whole story and it's concept stuff to the right hands (yeah, Koepp is a very good screenwriter, but he also had some fails) and just wanted to relax making another summer blockbuster with elements of suspence. I hope this time he will be more serious.

[dark_b]

I really like how Nolan is trying to hide all details, maybe he was a magician in previous life :D

Actually, it took him 72 days (a mit more than two months) to film the movie, production of which usually gets finished after 4-6 months. But the problem was that Spielberg didn't give the whole story and it's concept stuff to the right hands (yeah, Koepp is a very good screenwriter, but he also had some fails) and just wanted to relax making another summer blockbuster with elements of suspence. I hope this time he will be more serious.the story was not perfect. but WOTW was still a big movie and in 2 months? spielberg is good.

[Cinemaman]

the story was not perfect. but WOTW was still a big movie and in 2 months? spielberg is good.

I am agreed, he's still №1, but I will be very disappointed, if he doesn't get the lessons of past and think about script before even castin someone. I am not trying to bash Indy 4, as I'm really looking forward to it, but I am really worried about it's possible flaws, which later will be shown during screening.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I just hope we get less comedy than Last Crusade. I want the comedy to be more subtle, more intelligent...less in your face than Last Crusade. It seems like the comedy in Temple and Raiders were very natural, and was a result of the plot; whereas the comedy in Last Crusade stood out and was almost in spite of the plot.

Filmmakers tend to get lighter in nature when they get older, and Spielberg is no exception. Same with Lucas (Jar Jar, anyone?). This can and often does result in more light-hearted elements, usually comedy or comedic relief, and to me can be a very bad thing when in excess.

So to me, unnecessary and/or gratutious comedy is one of my fears. In that one shot where we see Indy on the motorcycle with ....groan...Mutt Ravenwood, me and my friend predicted we'll see Indy hanging onto his son's waist as his legs flail behind him like in a cartoon because Mutt is going so fast. Please I hope this isn't the case.

[Agentsands77]

I just hope we get less comedy than Last Crusade. I want the comedy to be more subtle, more intelligent...less in your face than Last Crusade. It seems like the comedy in Temple and Raiders were very natural, and was a result of the plot; whereas the comedy in Last Crusade stood out and was almost in spite of the plot.
I have no love for THE LAST CRUSADE, but as far as humor goes, the humor in TEMPLE was even less subtle than it was in CRUSADE. It gets somewhat ignored because the darkness overrides it, but TEMPLE was abundant in blatantly slapstick/silly humor.

The problem with the humor in CRUSADE is that it undermines the characters in the process, making everyone seem like a bumbling idiot. Even making Indy un-cool. The slapstick of TEMPLE was more over-the-top, but at least I found it humorous and it didn't really reflect badly on the title character. But with CRUSADE, I find the humor bland and that it really ate away at the characters' appeal.

In that one shot where we see Indy on the motorcycle with ....groan...Mutt Ravenwood, me and my friend predicted we'll see Indy hanging onto his son's waist as his legs flail behind him like in a cartoon because Mutt is going so fast. Please I hope this isn't the case.
I highly doubt we'll se anything like that.

However, in that sequence Indiana Jones does catch a football while running through the football game.

[Bishop2]

Filmmakers tend to get lighter in nature when they get older, and Spielberg is no exception.

He's definitely an exception. As he's gotten older he's colder, more pessimistic and downright brutal. There's very little that's "light" about films such as War of the Worlds, Munich, Saving Private Ryan, A.I., Minority Report. War of the Worlds and Munich in particular are relentlessly grim. Compare his modern ouvre - and even the washed-out, greyed-out colors of the films - to his earlier movies like Close Encounters, Raiders, Hook, Jurassic Park... and I'm honestly not worried about the film having too much humor, I'm more worried about it being too grim, grey and depressing.

[Agentsands77]

Yeah, I know they've reported the alien thing too, but I'd still chalk those reports up to pure speculation.
They're not. I can vouch for their validity 100%, thanks to an acquaintance who has read a summary of the film (given out to marketers so that they can come up with concepts for advertising).

[Bishop2]

However, in that sequence Indiana Jones does catch a football while running through the football game.

Okay, that's insanely cheesy. Maybe SolidSnake is right to be scared after all.

[Agentsands77]

I'm honestly not worried about the film having too much humor, I'm more worried about it being too grim, grey and depressing.
It's not going to be. It's more in keeping with the lighter tone of CRUSADE, from what I've been told. As CHUD reported, and my source has also stated:

Indy and Mutt find out that they're related to each other when the family unit (Indy, Mutt, and Marion) are stuck in quicksand. It's towards the end of the second act, and clearly a very comedic moment.

[Threshold]

Spielberg is an incredibly intelligent guy and he knows why he made Raiders of the Lost Ark and the two sequels in the first place. They were fun, action-packed, heroic events! He's not going to all of a sudden make Indy IV: The Bummer.

I guarantee that no matter how good of a movie this is quality-wise, it will at least be a pleasure-filled experience regardless. The creators of Jaws, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones and returning to make a fourth installment to the latter franchise?

Sign me up and hand me a whip!

[Golgo-13]

I still have great faith in the movie, but i know no matter how good it is ppl are gonna find reasons to rip it apart. :csad:

[FaT_tONle]

I still have great faith in the movie, but i know no matter how good it is ppl are gonna find reasons to rip it apart. :csad:

It has just been way too long... I mean Rocky 6 was iight but it was never gonna capture that magic again... I thought it was really good though... haven't seen die hard 4 yet... I am just not a fan of making fourth installments (or beyond) 10-15 years after the last... it almost never works... it should be like eight years max... even if the script calls for an older lead... people do age alot in eight years and they can be made to look whatever age they are required to play. Talking about action franchises here so its not like we need the lead to look like 70. But even as good as Harrison looks... he isn't nearly the same actor as he once was and this film just won't rekindle that magic. Its a tough way to spin no matter how you look at this.

[Agentsands77]

It has just been way too long... I mean Rocky 6 was iight but it was never gonna capture that magic again...
I think ROCKY BALBOA was the second best film in the series. If anything, that film gives me hope for a film like KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL.

Talking about action franchises here so its not like we need the lead to look like 70. But even as good as Harrison looks... he isn't nearly the same actor as he once was and this film just won't rekindle that magic.
Isn't it at least possible that INDY IV as a project could rejuvenate Harrison and bring back some of the Harrison that we all love? It looks like we have our Harrison back, at least from the interviews. Seems like a new man.

Now, I don't think INDY IV will be perfect. It's not going to be another RAIDERS, but it might be an effective enough send-off for Indiana. This film is going to be a nice mix of new material and nostalgia, and I think at the very least it'll be as good as TEMPLE and CRUSADE were (from what I know of the film, it seems like it'll be better than either of those).

[KALEL114]

Spielberg is an incredibly intelligent guy and he knows why he made Raiders of the Lost Ark and the two sequels in the first place. They were fun, action-packed, heroic events! He's not going to all of a sudden make Indy IV: The Bummer.

I guarantee that no matter how good of a movie this is quality-wise, it will at least be a pleasure-filled experience regardless. The creators of Jaws, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones and returning to make a fourth installment to the latter franchise?

Sign me up and hand me a whip!

Throw me the idol and i will throw the whip. :o
I couldn't help it.:csad:

[Golgo-13]

It has just been way too long... I mean Rocky 6 was iight but it was never gonna capture that magic again... I thought it was really good though... haven't seen die hard 4 yet... I am just not a fan of making fourth installments (or beyond) 10-15 years after the last... it almost never works... it should be like eight years max... even if the script calls for an older lead... people do age alot in eight years and they can be made to look whatever age they are required to play. Talking about action franchises here so its not like we need the lead to look like 70. But even as good as Harrison looks... he isn't nearly the same actor as he once was and this film just won't rekindle that magic. Its a tough way to spin no matter how you look at this.

I somewhat agree. In a perfect world, Indy 4 would have never been made. Classics like Indy, Back to the Future, etc should not be touched. I just hope Speilburg and co know what they're doing. Die hard 4 was a decent movie, but like you said, it's hard to capture the magic after all that time has pass. With Rambo 4 now coming, i won't be suprised if another Jaws movie is soon made.

[Agentsands77]

In a perfect world, Indy 4 would have never been made.
I don't know. I'd rather they made it than not. IMO, LAST CRUSADE was already a shoddy conclusion to the franchise, so even if KINGDOM fails, at least there was a try for another film.

Die hard 4 was a decent movie, but like you said, it's hard to capture the magic after all that time has pass.
Well, DIE HARD 4 might have had more magic if they'd actually made an attempt to make it feel like a DIE HARD film. They didn't even try, so no wonder it didn't quite feel like the magic was back.

Had LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD had a better script and John McTiernan at the helm, I bet it would have felt more like a legitimate successor to the franchise.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

He's definitely an exception. As he's gotten older he's colder, more pessimistic and downright brutal. There's very little that's "light" about films such as War of the Worlds, Munich, Saving Private Ryan, A.I., Minority Report. War of the Worlds and Munich in particular are relentlessly grim. Compare his modern ouvre - and even the washed-out, greyed-out colors of the films - to his earlier movies like Close Encounters, Raiders, Hook, Jurassic Park... and I'm honestly not worried about the film having too much humor, I'm more worried about it being too grim, grey and depressing.

Let's run down the list. His films, such as Catch Me if You Can and The Terminal, have been lighter fare than we've seen. He replaced shotguns with Walkie-talkies in E.T. Last Crusade was definitely the most slapsticky of the Indy movies. A.I. ending on a happy note.

I am not saying he is a happy-go-lucky pure optimist now, just that he definitely has a lighter mood. If you look at the evil he's shown, the greed of man, the obsession of man, and couple that with the violence he's portrayed, the more severe of that is in his past films.

I know he still does gritty, dark films, but that isn't what I am talking about. I am talking about his general current filmography, and in regards to certain creative decisions he's made.

[Agentsands77]

Let's run down the list. His films, such as Catch Me if You Can and The Terminal, have been lighter fare than we've seen.
Light fare? Sure. Lighter than we've seen? No way, no how. They still don't compare to HOOK.

Last Crusade was definitely the most slapsticky of the Indy movies.
No, TEMPLE OF DOOM was. It was full of overt gags like the dinner sequence or the big hammer hitting the thug on the head. But the darkness balances it out.

A.I. ending on a happy note.
It's Kubrick's ending, not Spielberg's. Everyone thinks it's Spielberg's.

Furthermore, if you understand what the ending was intended to signify, it's not happy at all. It's a terribly depressing and bleak statement. Most people thing David "sleeps" at the end of the film. Not at all. He shuts down... He dies.

I am not saying he is a happy-go-lucky pure optimist now, just that he definitely has a lighter mood.
His films have generally been much bleaker than anything he tried before. A.I., MINORITY REPORT, WAR OF THE WORLDS, MUNICH... all are very bleak films in their own way. There have been some moments of lightness in there, too (CATCH ME IF YOU CAN and THE TERMINAL), but even then, they're characterized with a new kind of cynicism that Spielberg hadn't previously demonstrated.

If you look at the evil he's shown, the greed of man, the obsession of man, and couple that with the violence he's portrayed, the more severe of that is in his past films.
Strongly disagree. MUNICH was by far Spielberg's darkest take on human nature, with the most graphic content. Absolutely brutal film.

[Mr. Socko]

I just watched Temple of Doom recently. I seem to love it even more. The action, the comedy, classic lines, great setting, very dark mood. And a perfect finale. NOTHING beats Indy on the rigidity bridge with a torn sleeve and a machete in one hand. And side-kicks just don't get any better than Short Round. I think I love Temple even more than Raiders of the Lost Ark, it also had the perfect posters. Ah, almost forgot to mention the opener! You've got to love the homage to James Bond with the white tux and martini.

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[Bishop2]

And a perfect finale. NOTHING beats Indy on the rigidity bridge with a torn sleeve and a machete in one hand.

Agreed, easily the best ending of the series, fantastic music too. I wish they'd put Williams' score for Temple on CD here in the U.S. - it's my favorite of his three Indy scores, and the only one we've never gotten as an album domestically! It goes for like $75 bucks if you import it!


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Totally iconic.

[Fried Gold]

I just watched Temple of Doom recently. I seem to love it even more. The action, the comedy, classic lines, great setting, very dark mood. And a perfect finale. NOTHING beats Indy on the rigidity bridge with a torn sleeve and a machete in one hand. And side-kicks just don't get any better than Short Round. I think I love Temple even more than Raiders of the Lost Ark, it also had the perfect posters. Ah, almost forgot to mention the opener! You've got to love the homage to James Bond with the white tux and martini.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/34/003_INDY2CRP~Indiana-Jones-and-The-Temple-of-Doom-Posters.jpg

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Indiana-Jones-and-The-Temple-of-Doom-Poster-C10286893.jpeg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/248/524821815_e9d41fd8ed.jpg

http://videodetective.com/photos/013/000570_37.jpgTemple of Doom also had the greatest score.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Light fare? Sure. Lighter than we've seen? No way, no how. They still don't compare to HOOK.


No, TEMPLE OF DOOM was. It was full of overt gags like the dinner sequence or the big hammer hitting the thug on the head. But the darkness balances it out.


It's Kubrick's ending, not Spielberg's. Everyone thinks it's Spielberg's.

Furthermore, if you understand what the ending was intended to signify, it's not happy at all. It's a terribly depressing and bleak statement. Most people thing David &quot;sleeps&quot; at the end of the film. Not at all. He shuts down... He dies.


His films have generally been much bleaker than anything he tried before. A.I., MINORITY REPORT, WAR OF THE WORLDS, MUNICH... all are very bleak films in their own way. There have been some moments of lightness in there, too (CATCH ME IF YOU CAN and THE TERMINAL), but even then, they're characterized with a new kind of cynicism that Spielberg hadn't previously demonstrated.


Strongly disagree. MUNICH was by far Spielberg's darkest take on human nature, with the most graphic content. Absolutely brutal film.

:cmad: I had replied in length to your post but this ****ing computer at work logged me out and my post got completely lost in the void. Oh well, suffice to say that I respectfully disagree with your view of Spielberg and guess I have to leave it at that. No time to reconstruct my post.

[Mr. Socko]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=279925&page=41

Quickly, everyone vote Indy

[scifiwolf]

Breaking Story: Indiana Jones and the Secret of the Stolen Set Photos!

Written by Robert Sanchez
Tuesday, 02 October 2007

Steven Spielberg has another reason to be pissed off. Over 2000 production stills, production budget breakdown and other sensitive materials from Indiana Jones 4 were stolen from his office.

This is a story that we are going to be hearing much more of in the upcoming days but here is the skinny.

Over 2000 production stills, plenty of sensitive paperwork including a complete production budget breakdown, possibly the script from Indiana Jones 4 and multiple computers were stolen from Spielberg’s Universal Studio office.

The thief started contacting multiple entertainment websites including TMZ.com and offering the stolen goods for a sum of $2000.00.

The IESB has been informed that TMZ.com may had obtained some of stolen property and were on the verge of running the story on its TV division until Paramount lawyers stepped in.

TMZ.com went as far as promoting their upcoming story but we have been informed that they have scrapped their original plans.

The good news for Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and the fine folks over at Paramount, the alleged thief was apprehended today at the Standard Hotel in Los Angeles, CA. around 4:00pm PST.

We have been told that the thief was apprehended by LAPD and the FBI with the help of a member of the online press that had been offered the stolen property. Sources tell us that an undercover sting operation was set in motion late last night with the help of the unnamed member of the online press.

A meeting between the alleged thief and the unnamed online reporter was set up for 4:00pm at the Standard Hotel on Sunset Blvd. The sting went as planned and the arrest was made. The IESB has been told that the alleged thief was in possession of the stolen property.

We are waiting for Paramount Studios to issue an official comment at this time.

Charges to be filed against the individual are unknown at this time.

Stay tuned as this story develops.Glad he was caught and nothing got released.