Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Agentsands77]

:cmad: I had replied in length to your post but this ****ing computer at work logged me out and my post got completely lost in the void. Oh well, suffice to say that I respectfully disagree with your view of Spielberg and guess I have to leave it at that. No time to reconstruct my post.
Shame. I'm interested as to what your argument would have been.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Well, one of my points was that you pointed out the dinner scene from Temple, and my view was that the dinner itself wasn't the humor, it was western civilization's reaction to what is to them an almost alien culture. It was the humor that arose out of that culture shock, the awkwardness, the confusion, the FEAR. The humor was very natural, but also exaggerated in that typical Indy fashion. It didn't seem like the humor was injected in there, like how I felt the humor in Last Crusade was.

If I have time and cam remember the rest, I'll try to bring them up.

[StylishHokie21]

I just watched the Comic Con footage and was surprised to see Karen Allen returning. She looks like she hasn't aged at all. Haha! The title is pretty cool also.

[Agentsands77]

Well, one of my points was that you pointed out the dinner scene from Temple, and my view was that the dinner itself wasn't the humor, it was western civilization's reaction to what is to them an almost alien culture. It was the humor that arose out of that culture shock, the awkwardness, the confusion, the FEAR. The humor was very natural, but also exaggerated in that typical Indy fashion. It didn't seem like the humor was injected in there, like how I felt the humor in Last Crusade was.
I agree. The humor in that scene is a much more natural evolution out of the story, but that's not what we were discussing. Your assertion was that LAST CRUSADE was the most "slapsticky," which has little or nothing to do with how naturally the humor comes out of the story, and more to do with the mode of humor. I still feel that the humor was much more exaggerated than anything in LAST CRUSADE. It certainly comes more naturally out of the film, but it's a very cartoonish scene, and that cartoonishness comes out in other places, too.

[scifiwolf]

Suspect charged in "Indiana Jones" theft

Thu Oct 4, 2007 10:22am EDT
By Carly Mayberry

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department has arrested a man in connection with the theft of computers, photographs and documents from director Steven Spielberg's upcoming fourth "Indiana Jones" film.

The Tuesday afternoon arrest took place during a sting operation in West Hollywood, according to sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

He said officers posing as potential buyers arrested the man on suspicion of receiving stolen property. The goods had been advertised for sale through emails sent out to entertainment-gossip Web sites.

"He is on what is known as parole hold," said Whitmore who declined to release the man's name. "We believe there's more people involved and don't want to release the name until this plays out," he added.

On September 24, the sheriff's department was notified that some items had been taken from Spielberg's production office on the Universal Pictures lot.


Reuters/Hollywood ReporterIt's interesting to see that there may be more conspirators.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I agree. The humor in that scene is a much more natural evolution out of the story, but that's not what we were discussing. Your assertion was that LAST CRUSADE was the most "slapsticky," which has little or nothing to do with how naturally the humor comes out of the story, and more to do with the mode of humor. I still feel that the humor was much more exaggerated than anything in LAST CRUSADE. It certainly comes more naturally out of the film, but it's a very cartoonish scene, and that cartoonishness comes out in other places, too.

Well, in Last Crusade, they turned normally serious characters into comedic relief, unnecessarily. It was implied in Raiders that Brody was maybe at one time an "obtainer of rare antiquities", in Last Crusade, he was a drunken fool who stumbled and bumbled his way through the movie. Sallah, the most respected digger in Egypt, just seemed like the idiot fat guy to laugh at. That was the most distasteful thing.

And as far as comedy, you got the library stamper at the beginning, the Irish baron bit, and the whole post-Zeppelin chase was very light and more comedically inclined just for beginners. A lot of the action in Last Crusade had many bits of comedy in it. Actually, EVERY action scene had comedy in it in some form, making it less serious and more light in nature.

While Raiders and Temple had their comedy, there was a time for comedy and then a time for action. Not with Last Crusade, which definitely and unfortunately blended the two to a rather lackluster effect IMO.

[Spider-Vader]

I liked the comedy in LC. Made it stand-out in a good way. They pulled it off.*Glares at TPM*

[Bishop2]

Well, in Last Crusade, they turned normally serious characters into comedic relief, unnecessarily. It was implied in Raiders that Brody was maybe at one time an "obtainer of rare antiquities", in Last Crusade, he was a drunken fool who stumbled and bumbled his way through the movie. Sallah, the most respected digger in Egypt, just seemed like the idiot fat guy to laugh at. That was the most distasteful thing.

And as far as comedy, you got the library stamper at the beginning, the Irish baron bit, and the whole post-Zeppelin chase was very light and more comedically inclined just for beginners. A lot of the action in Last Crusade had many bits of comedy in it. Actually, EVERY action scene had comedy in it in some form, making it less serious and more light in nature.

While Raiders and Temple had their comedy, there was a time for comedy and then a time for action. Not with Last Crusade, which definitely and unfortunately blended the two to a rather lackluster effect IMO.

Well said. But I didn't think they made Sallah into an idiot; certainly nothing compared to what they did to Marcus. I mean, what's the dumbest thing Sallah does? Gets some camels?

[Carmine Falcone]

I think Last Crusade is quite hilarious, especially the scene with Marcus and Sallah:

German Guide: Papers, please.
Sallah: [laughing] Papers? Of course
[to Marcus]
Sallah: Run.
Marcus Brody: Yes.
Sallah: Papers. Got it here. Just finished reading it myself.
[to Marcus]
Sallah: Run.
Marcus Brody: Yes.
Sallah: "Egyptian Mail," morning edition.
[to Marcus]
Sallah: Run.
Marcus Brody: Did you say, uh...
[Sallah punches one of the German guides]
Sallah: RUN!

[Fried Gold]

Each film is tonally different, which is a difficult thing to pull off convincingly. Saying that the Last Crusade is too 'slapsticky' is no more or less valid than saying that Temple of Doom is too 'dark'.

[Golgo-13]

Temple of Doom has to be my favorite. The scene with Indy in Lao Chi Bar at the beginning-fighting for the antidote has got to be one of the greatest action scene in cinema history, imo.

Raiders is a close second. I'm more a fan of the truck chase in the desert-with Indy being dragged , as oppsed to everyones favorite- with Indy being chased by that giant ball.

Last Crusade was still nice closure, then, to the trilogy. The sscne with young Indy being chased over the train is the best action scne in the movie.


Does anyone know what critters they have in store for us this time around? It was snakes and spiders in Raiders, bugs in TOD, and rats in Last Crusade.

Any ideas...?

[scifiwolf]

In a new interview with MTV News (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml), George has stated that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will be closest to Raiders in tone.

[xwolverine2]

In a new interview with MTV News (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml), George has stated that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will be closest to Raiders in tone.

cool.... so this will be the most powerful of the relics so far...

[Agentsands77]

Well, in Last Crusade, they turned normally serious characters into comedic relief, unnecessarily. It was implied in Raiders that Brody was maybe at one time an "obtainer of rare antiquities", in Last Crusade, he was a drunken fool who stumbled and bumbled his way through the movie. Sallah, the most respected digger in Egypt, just seemed like the idiot fat guy to laugh at. That was the most distasteful thing.

And as far as comedy, you got the library stamper at the beginning, the Irish baron bit, and the whole post-Zeppelin chase was very light and more comedically inclined just for beginners. A lot of the action in Last Crusade had many bits of comedy in it. Actually, EVERY action scene had comedy in it in some form, making it less serious and more light in nature.

While Raiders and Temple had their comedy, there was a time for comedy and then a time for action. Not with Last Crusade, which definitely and unfortunately blended the two to a rather lackluster effect IMO.
Agreed with all of that, but that was never what we were talking about.

I've never actually been defending CRUSADE. I dislike that film immensely, and consider TEMPLE to be very superior. But TEMPLE does have the more "slapsticky" brand of humor, if we're going to refer to it as such.

[xwolverine2]

Agreed with all of that, but that was never what we were talking about.

I've never actually been defending CRUSADE. I dislike that film immensely, and consider TEMPLE to be very superior. But TEMPLE does have the more "slapsticky" brand of humor, if we're going to refer to it as such.

yeah the trolly ride at the end was a bit too ridiculous lol

[Agentsands77]

cool.... so this will be the most powerful of the relics so far...
Wanna know what the skulls actually do in KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL?

They fall into the psychic amplifiers category. With all the skulls together, you can effectively control the minds of the world.

[xwolverine2]

that's just a myth Dr.Agentsands77.... :ninja:

[Agentsands77]

that's just a myth Dr.Agentsands77.... :ninja:
No, that's what they do in INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. Trust me.

[Mr. Socko]

So the skulls are leftovers from The Young Indy adventures...

Good one George.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I want to see giant aliens at the end of this movie & Michael Shanks needs a cameo. Its essential :cwink:

[Secret_Riddle]

I hope the ark of the covenant theme gets a reprisal in Kingdom :D

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hope the ark of the covenant theme gets a reprisal in Kingdom :D

Master Chief should get a cameo as well. With the famous lines "I need a weapon"

[jimmylace]

I can understand the crusade bashing, but as far as entertainment value, you cant go far wrong with it. "He chose....poorly." Plus it has some iconic scenes, and classy indiana jones moments too. Theyre all quite different really, though I would have to say that Raiders has become my favourite as I've gotten older, but Temple and Crusade rule. If anything, the Indy movies are one of the most consistently brilliant series ever.

[Agentsands77]

Plus it has some iconic scenes,
Such as? I can't really think of any. Maybe the final grail choice, but other than that, the movie feels pretty bland.

[jimmylace]

well yeah, all of the ending really....the tank fight...

[Agentsands77]

well yeah, all of the ending really....the tank fight...
Personally, I've always found the tank fight relatively boring.

[Noir]

When is the teaser do?

[Agentsands77]

The teaser's due out next month, from what I understand.

[Noir]

Good. Cause I really want a taste of this.

[DocHoliday]

Good. Cause I really want a taste of this.

As do I.

[Secret_Riddle]

Master Chief should get a cameo as well. With the famous lines "I need a weapon"

I think you misunderstand what i meant lmfao :oldrazz:

but that would be cool.

[Golgo-13]

In a new interview with MTV News (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml), George has stated that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will be closest to Raiders in tone.

History of movie making has shown that this is not always a good move; trying to re-captere the original.

Before filming started, Back to the Future 3 was said to be more like BTTF 1, and we saw how that turned out.

Goyer said he wrote Blade 3 be more like the original Blade, and well, you get the point........

[DocHoliday]

History of movie making has shown that this is not always a good move; trying to re-captere the original.

Before filming started, Back to the Future 3 was said to be more like BTTF 1, and we saw how that turned out.

Goyer said he wrote Blade 3 be more like the original Blade, and well, you get the point........

I agree with that. BTTF 3 was a step down from 2.

[Spider-Vader]

BTTF 3 like BTTF 1, wow....Things change. But I think sicne KOCC is half-way done well Lucas may be right.

[Octoberist]

I don't think Back to the Future 3 was a MAJOR step down from part 2. I just think that there's a stigma with the 'western' genre with the mainstream. In other words, it's not as cool as flying cars in the future.

I do think Back to the Future 3 was the most...intimate one. It's about Doc. It's more character based, a smaller film.

[xwolverine2]

Such as? I can't really think of any. Maybe the final grail choice, but other than that, the movie feels pretty bland.

it had nazis.....

2nd didnt.... just idiot muslims or w/e(survivors of the 300' persian army,lol)

[SolidSnakeMGS]

2nd didnt.... just idiot muslims or w/e(survivors of the 300' persian army,lol)

Seriously, how old are you? :whatever:

First India and Iran aren't the same place and secondly the movie dealt with a Hindu cult obsessed with Kali.

[Octoberist]

temple of doom kicked ass, and it had the best sidekick. I will defend it till i'm dead.

[Mr. Socko]

it had nazis.....

2nd didnt.... just idiot muslims or w/e(survivors of the 300' persian army,lol)


You really don't know how ridiculous you look right now, do you?

I personally preferred the Thugee cult to the Nazis. Temple was such an amazing movie, but I've already said this multiple times. But I did love the classic Nazi infiltration scene in the Last Crusade. Hitler signs the diary that contains the answer to one of the artifacts his boys have been searching for for years.


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2555/254pr6.jpg

[SolidSnakeMGS]

^^ The actor that played Hitler was the Captain of the U-boat in Raiders and Admiral Ozzel in Empire Strikes Back. If you look at his filmog, he's played Hitler in at least 5 movies, and played Himmler a couple of times as well. Poor guy is always playing the baddest of the bad guys, lol.

[Kent]

Such as? I can't really think of any. Maybe the final grail choice, but other than that, the movie feels pretty bland.

I can't say I agree at all.
The scene from Indy's youth in the beginning was great.
Then there's the catacombs with the rats, and the boat chase in Venice... and the castle scene leading up to that fun motorcycle chase. And the whole plane thing... ending with Indy's dad saving the day by getting birds to fly into the attacking plane (hilarious).
Then there's the tank action sequence, which I found very exciting, and Indy getting passed the different traps to get to the Grail.

Plus, any scene where Harrison Ford and Sean Connery interacted were instant gold.

"I told you..." *machine guns a bunch of nazis* "...don't call me Junior!"
"Look what you did..." *beat* "I can't believe what you did."

"Those people are trying to kill us!"
"I *know* dad!"
"This is a new experience for me."
"It happens to me all the time."


My only real problem with the film is what they did to Marcus Brody's character (turned him into some kind of bumbling buffoon).

[DocHoliday]

it had nazis.....

2nd didnt.... just idiot muslims or w/e(survivors of the 300' persian army,lol)

Truly foolish.

[Bishop2]

Personally, I've always found the tank fight relatively boring.

I always see it as a highlight of the film. As far as vehicular mayhem is considered, it's not rivaling the truck chase in Raiders or the mine car chase in Temple, though. But I think it's probably stronger than the boat chase in Venice, which I also enjoyed.

[chaseter]

Can somone give me the rundown of the plot?

[Cinemaman]

I don't think Back to the Future 3 was a MAJOR step down from part 2. I just think that there's a stigma with the 'western' genre with the mainstream. In other words, it's not as cool as flying cars in the future.

I do think Back to the Future 3 was the most...intimate one. It's about Doc. It's more character based, a smaller film.

You mean it was more character-driven than plot-driven story, right?

[Hobgoblin]

I agree with that. BTTF 3 was a step down from 2.

Really? :huh: I always thought that part 3 was a giant leap above part 2.

[Agentsands77]

The scene from Indy's youth in the beginning was great.
I thought it was really cornball. Didn't like it one bit. You expect me to believe all of the famous Indiana Jones traits originated from about an hour to two hours in his life? Nah. Not buying it.

the boat chase in Venice...
I think that's the laziest set-piece in all three films.

Plus, any scene where Harrison Ford and Sean Connery interacted were instant gold.
I don't like them. It turns both of their characters into jokes. I wish they'd gone for something less blatantly comedic with the both of them... more along the lines of the subtle, character-based humor in RAIDERS. Humor that comes out of the characters, but doesn't make fun of them. I mean, LAST CRUSADE is the only Indy film where Indiana Jones himself is un-cool. That's a big mistake.

For example, take the scene where "Indiana" is revealed to be the name of the dog. Not only does this rob some of the mystery of the character away, it links one of the coolest monikers to one of the lamest source. Is it funny? Yeah, but the name's never been quite as cool ever since.

LAST CRUSADE isn't an awful film, IMO, just a mediocre one. It's a film that feels like it was directed by screenwriter Jeffrey Boam and written by Steven Spielberg, if that makes any sense. It lacks the striking set-pieces that made the first two so great (nothing like the truck chase, or the bridge sequence). Furthermore, it loses the all-important "adventure serial" feel.

Given what I know about KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, it feels like the film CRUSADE should have been.

[Marvolo]

Last Crusade is my favorite of the series. I loved Sean Connery and Harrison Fords interaction in that film. I like Temple the least, because I don't like the story. It is to small scaled.

The first film had someone trying to harness the power of the Ark. If its power had been harnessed, the person with the power could have poilitcly and militarily conquered the world. The third film had Hitler trying to find the Holy Grail. This would have allowed Hitler to live forever, and politicly and militarily affect the world. Even though he couldn't leave the temple he could have still made decisions and had his army act them out.

The second film's threat didn't spread worldwide. That cult was not a political or military power. Even if the cult did spread across the entire country of India it wouldn't have taken off in America or in any other politicly or militarily powerful country. The cult by itself without a proper military or political system was no world wide threat or had any influence over anyone in the industrialized world.

[Advanced Dark]

Was this already posted?

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml

Lucas says it'll be as good as Raiders.

[Green Goblin 1964]

Was this already posted?

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml

Lucas says it'll be as good as Raiders.And I should believe...

http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/movies/l/lucas_george/afi_event_07/281x211.jpg
THIS man ? :cmad:

[scifiwolf]

Was this already posted?

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1571280/20071005/story.jhtml

Lucas says it'll be as good as Raiders.
Yeah, it was. :p

[Spider-Vader]

temple of doom kicked ass, and it had the best sidekick. I will defend it till i'm dead.

Me too though ROTLA & TOD change places from time-to-time. I like the bafoon Brody, how was he made a bafoon? He appeared in Raiders for like 2 minutes most of the time being interrupted by Indy.

Lucas may of regained his mind with ROTS. So who knows he may be right. :wow:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I like the bafoon Brody, how was he made a bafoon? He appeared in Raiders for like 2 minutes most of the time being interrupted by Indy.

Watch Raiders again. Brody was intelligent and he even alluded to the possibility that he too once was an adventurer. He was confident and apparently very capable. Look at the knowledge displayed when he is telling the G men about the Ark.

Yet in Last Crusade, he is constantly a walking, bumbling fool who doesn't at all look like someone who is well versed in culture and civilization as he was in Raiders. They completely sold the character out and made him into nothing more than comedic relief. He should have been a great source of info to Indy on his quest, yet no, he was a hinderance the whole way through.

[chaseter]

Can somone give me the rundown of the plot?
Would please, help?

[sithgoblin]

Watch Raiders again. Brody was intelligent and he even alluded to the possibility that he too once was an adventurer. He was confident and apparently very capable. Look at the knowledge displayed when he is telling the G men about the Ark.

Yet in Last Crusade, he is constantly a walking, bumbling fool who doesn't at all look like someone who is well versed in culture and civilization as he was in Raiders. They completely sold the character out and made him into nothing more than comedic relief. He should have been a great source of info to Indy on his quest, yet no, he was a hinderance the whole way through.

You never know, maybe he had a stroke between Raiders and Crusade. Or Alzheimer's. :oldrazz:

[Bishop2]

Would please, help?

We don't know a whole lot, really...

The movie takes place in 1957. The artifact that is the focus is, obviously, a crystal skull or possibly MULTIPLE skulls. The enemies who seek the skull(s) are Soviet agents. Cate Blanchett plays one of the leading Soviet officiers. Indy meets up with young Abner "Mutt" Ravenwood (Shia LaBeouf), the son of Marion, early in the film. It's not until later, when the two wind up trapped in quicksand, that they realize they are father and son. Action scene locations include a nuclear test site and the warehouse glimpsed at the end of Raiders. Ray Winstone plays Indy's primary sidekick in the movie. It is heavily rumored that the crystal skulls were left on Earth by an alien civilization; these aliens may or may not make an appearance in the finale.

[Hypestyle]

...I don't understand the skepticism toward cgi effects and/or stunts.. they might as well take it there.. I don't want to see any wires..

[Agentsands77]

We don't know a whole lot, really...

The movie takes place in 1957. The artifact that is the focus is, obviously, a crystal skull or possibly MULTIPLE skulls. The enemies who seek the skull(s) are Soviet agents. Cate Blanchett plays one of the leading Soviet officiers. Indy meets up with young Abner "Mutt" Ravenwood (Shia LaBeouf), the son of Marion, early in the film. It's not until later, when the two wind up trapped in quicksand, that they realize they are father and son. Action scene locations include a nuclear test site and the warehouse glimpsed at the end of Raiders. Ray Winstone plays Indy's primary sidekick in the movie. It is heavily rumored that the crystal skulls were left on Earth by an alien civilization; these aliens may or may not make an appearance in the finale.
Well, let me amend this according to what I've been told from my own source (whom I put a good deal of faith in):

KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is set in 1957. After an opening in the Nevada desert involving Jones and his sidekick Mac surviving a nuclear blast (a scene that is re-used from the rejected SAUCER MEN FROM MARS script), the plot of the movie kicks into gear when Mutt Ravenwood shows up at Indy's doorstep asking him for help to rescue his mother (he'd been told to seek out Indy in case of trouble), and they are pursued by the Soviets.

The artifacts themselves are actually two things. We all know about the crystal skulls (of which there are 13), which are effectively pyschic amplifiers. With them, the Soviets can control the minds of the world, so the benefit is implicit. Yes, they do come from extraterrestrial origin (though no extraterrestrials physically appear in the film).

But what you haven't been told is that the Lost City of Gold actually plays a role in the story. A colleage of Indy's, named Oaxley (I think this is John Hurt's character), was an expert in both the skulls and the Lost City of Gold, and apparently found the city, but went insane. It is in the Lost City of Gold that the remaining skulls are to be found.

The journey eventually takes them to South America, in pursuit of the Lost City of Gold. The journey is treacherous. The largest action sequence in the film involves tank-like Soviet tree-mulchers (pictures of those things have been released) cutting their way through the jungle.

I believe it is also during this section of film that the "quicksand" sequence occurs, with Marion, Indy, and Mutt all sinking. At that moment, Mutt and Indy discover their relationship to one another.

The finale occurs at the great pyramid itself. What specifically happens there? I don't know. But my source has confirmed what IESB.net reported a while back... the pyramid flies away at the end, revealing itself to be a spaceship.

The finale of the film is Indy's marriage to Marion. They ride off into the sunset, as Indy's hat is blown off and lands at the feet of Mutt Ravenwood.

Take that or leave it, but I stand firmly by it.

[Spider-Vader]

Watch Raiders again. Brody was intelligent and he even alluded to the possibility that he too once was an adventurer. He was confident and apparently very capable. Look at the knowledge displayed when he is telling the G men about the Ark.

Yet in Last Crusade, he is constantly a walking, bumbling fool who doesn't at all look like someone who is well versed in culture and civilization as he was in Raiders. They completely sold the character out and made him into nothing more than comedic relief. He should have been a great source of info to Indy on his quest, yet no, he was a hinderance the whole way through.

The only thing that I saw as intelligent was his knowledge of the ark. Him getting interrupted seemed a little bafoomish to me. He was going to say something to the FBI guys & Indy kept interrupting him.
Who said Brody's "adventures" weren't full of craaaaazy, mishaps & shenanigans! Oh crap....I just gave Lucas an idea. :oldrazz:

[Agentsands77]

Quint at AICN had a set visit on INDY IV:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34376

This quote cracked me up:

Other topics brought up included his working relationship with George Lucas and if Spielberg was pressured to shoot INDY 4 digitally. Spielberg said that the way he works with George is he lets George talk for an hour and then says, “No.”

[Hunter Rider]

Spielberg Talks Indy 4
Source: Heather Newgen
October 9, 2007


http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/spielbergindy4.jpg

Earlier today, ComingSoon.net had a chance to talk to director (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38211#) Steven Spielberg about next summer's highly-anticipated Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665), starring Harrison Ford, Shia LaBeouf, Cate Blanchett, Ray Winstone, Karen Allen, John Hurt and Jim Broadbent, as well as his other projects in the works like Tintin and the Transformers sequel.

As a way to reward the online community for not being enticed to buy stolen pictures and information about the new Indy 4 film, Steven Spielberg invited a few sites to the Amblin offices on the Universal Studios lot to personally thank journalists.

Before we met the remarkable and legendary director, we were shuttled to craft services near the set for lunch. While we weren’t allowed on-set, which was somewhat disappointing but understandable, I did catch a glimpse of Harrison Ford in full costume grabbing a bite to eat as we left the area and that made not seeing the set alright by me. He appeared to be amazingly fit in his Indy outfit and couldn’t believe how great the 64-year-old looked as he quickly flashed his award-winning grin.

A few minutes later, we met Spielberg in a private screening room where he enthusiastically greeted us sporting his usual dressed-down-with-ball-cap look. He sincerely thanked the small group of reporters for not allowing the people who stole important details of the movie to leak out in the press and said how they would be going away for "decades." He joked and said while he was more forgiving, George [Lucas] was not and that he’s going after them full force saying "he does not take any prisoners."

He continued by saying that the people had the information for about 24 hours, and that it was a frightening ordeal because they had a lot of essential specifics about the project that could have been devastating to the film if the information had gotten out.

Spielberg was gracious with his time and while he talked with us a few minutes, he was upfront about not wanting to answer any questions about the movie. Of course as journalists, we had to try and this is what we got:

Production is two days away from wrapping and the director raved about how great it was to have Ford back and how amazed he was that he did the majority of his own stunts. He said looking back to the last film, which was 18 years ago, he couldn’t tell the difference between the action star from then to now because he’s still that good. He also told us that the Russians are the villains in the film and he hired Russian actors to ensure accuracy with their accents.

He went on to say that the fourth installment of the "Indiana Jones" franchise is shot on film and not digital, despite Lucas’ encouragements of doing so because he is old-fashioned, and he added that if the people before him who he considered great directors did it on film then that’s good enough for him.

Spielberg then talked about what a great addition Shia LaBeouf has been and how he’s been doing all of his own stunts, too. Speaking of LaBeouf, Spielberg told us they are going to be multiple "Transformers (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38211#)" films that the hot young actor is signed on to do and that there’s already a story for the second one, but production depends on the pending writer’s strike.

As if meeting Spielberg in person and listening to him talk wasn’t enough, he also signed limited edition Indy 4 posters for all of us. It was a great afternoon for everyone, to say the least.

[블라스]

I :heart: Steven :)

[Mr. Socko]

Thanks for the article Hunter. And thanks for the set report, Sheldon.

[Mr. Socko]

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- MovieTickets.com (www.movietickets.com), the world's most powerful Internet movie ticketing service, has revealed the results of a poll conducted among 2000 active moviegoers to determine which films scheduled for release over the next 12 months are generating the most interest. According to the highly-qualified pool of moviegoers, films based on existing properties such as the Indiana Jones, Batman and Chronicles of Narnia installments and Iron Man are of greatest interest, with only American Gangster and I Am Legend as the only original films breaking into the top 10. The MovieTickets.com poll results reveal early, valuable insight into which movies scheduled for release over the next year are generating the most interest among active moviegoers.

The poll revealed the following:
- By a wide margin and across all demographic segments, Indiana Jones and
the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull earned the greatest interest
- Measurable strength was recorded for The Dark Knight, National Treasure:
Book of Secrets, and American Gangster
- A majority of the most anticipated films are based on existing
franchises

1 - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
2 - The Dark Knight (Batman Begins 2)
3 - National Treasure: Book of Secrets
4 - American Gangster
5 - The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
6 - Iron Man
7 - I Am Legend
8 - Get Smart
9 - The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor
10 - Charlie Wilson's War
11 - Hancock
12 - Beowulf
13 - His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass
14 - Mamma Mia!
15 - The Incredible Hulk
16 - Speed Racer
17 - Step Brothers
18 - Bee Movie
19 - Mr. Magnorium's Wonder Emporium
20 - Starship Dave

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/CLTU06309102007-1.htm

[Agentsands77]

And thanks for the set report, Sheldon.
Sheldon?

[Mr. Socko]

Sheldon?

You've forgotten your own name? It was suppose to be an in-joke:cwink:

Sheldon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Sands)

hehe:oldrazz:

[Agentsands77]

Sorry... don't know what I was thinking.

[cryptic name]

...I don't understand the skepticism toward cgi effects and/or stunts.. they might as well take it there.. I don't want to see any wires..

there's a difference between digitally erasing wires and creating full CG stunt doubles

[cryptic name]

Well, let me amend this according to what I've been told from my own source (whom I put a good deal of faith in):

KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is set in 1957. After an opening in the Nevada desert involving Jones and his sidekick Mac surviving a nuclear blast (a scene that is re-used from the rejected SAUCER MEN FROM MARS script), the plot of the movie kicks into gear when Mutt Ravenwood shows up at Indy's doorstep asking him for help to rescue his mother (he'd been told to seek out Indy in case of trouble), and they are pursued by the Soviets.

The artifacts themselves are actually two things. We all know about the crystal skulls (of which there are 13), which are effectively pyschic amplifiers. With them, the Soviets can control the minds of the world, so the benefit is implicit. Yes, they do come from extraterrestrial origin (though no extraterrestrials physically appear in the film).

But what you haven't been told is that the Lost City of Gold actually plays a role in the story. A colleage of Indy's, named Oaxley (I think this is John Hurt's character), was an expert in both the skulls and the Lost City of Gold, and apparently found the city, but went insane. It is in the Lost City of Gold that the remaining skulls are to be found.

The journey eventually takes them to South America, in pursuit of the Lost City of Gold. The journey is treacherous. The largest action sequence in the film involves tank-like Soviet tree-mulchers (pictures of those things have been released) cutting their way through the jungle.

I believe it is also during this section of film that the "quicksand" sequence occurs, with Marion, Indy, and Mutt all sinking. At that moment, Mutt and Indy discover their relationship to one another.

The finale occurs at the great pyramid itself. What specifically happens there? I don't know. But my source has confirmed what IESB.net reported a while back... the pyramid flies away at the end, revealing itself to be a spaceship.

The finale of the film is Indy's marriage to Marion. They ride off into the sunset, as Indy's hat is blown off and lands at the feet of Mutt Ravenwood.

Take that or leave it, but I stand firmly by it.

... **** :csad:

[sithgoblin]

City of Gold is cool in my book!

[scifiwolf]

In addition to the ComingSoon! set visit, the other sites there that day have posted their own articles. They're mostly redundant, but there are some good tidbits in each, so they're all worth reading.

Indiana Jones and the Other White Meat (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12095)
Indiana Jones 4: A Visit with Steven Spielberg (http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/09/a-visit-to-the-set-of-indiana-jones-4/)
IESB Chats With The Master - Steven Spielberg! (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3450&Itemid=99)
Quint visits with Steven Spielberg on the INDIANA JONES 4 set!!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34376)
Indy IV Winding Down (http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/826/826026p1.html)

[SolidSnakeMGS]

The only thing that I saw as intelligent was his knowledge of the ark. Him getting interrupted seemed a little bafoomish to me. He was going to say something to the FBI guys & Indy kept interrupting him.
Who said Brody's "adventures" weren't full of craaaaazy, mishaps & shenanigans! Oh crap....I just gave Lucas an idea. :oldrazz:

I believe Indy only interrupted him once or twice, and that hardly shows Brody being a buffoon. It in fact does nothing of the sort, and is intended to show Indy's childlike excitement at the subject matter. Like he can't contain himself.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Where are the pics of the Soviet tree mulchers?

[Advanced Dark]

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- MovieTickets.com (www.movietickets.com) (http://www.movietickets.com)), the world's most powerful Internet movie ticketing service, has revealed the results of a poll conducted among 2000 active moviegoers to determine which films scheduled for release over the next 12 months are generating the most interest. According to the highly-qualified pool of moviegoers, films based on existing properties such as the Indiana Jones, Batman and Chronicles of Narnia installments and Iron Man are of greatest interest, with only American Gangster and I Am Legend as the only original films breaking into the top 10. The MovieTickets.com poll results reveal early, valuable insight into which movies scheduled for release over the next year are generating the most interest among active moviegoers.

The poll revealed the following:
- By a wide margin and across all demographic segments, Indiana Jones and
the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull earned the greatest interest
- Measurable strength was recorded for The Dark Knight, National Treasure:
Book of Secrets, and American Gangster
- A majority of the most anticipated films are based on existing
franchises

1 - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
2 - The Dark Knight (Batman Begins 2)
3 - National Treasure: Book of Secrets
4 - American Gangster
5 - The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
6 - Iron Man
7 - I Am Legend
8 - Get Smart
9 - The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor
10 - Charlie Wilson's War
11 - Hancock
12 - Beowulf
13 - His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass
14 - Mamma Mia!
15 - The Incredible Hulk
16 - Speed Racer
17 - Step Brothers
18 - Bee Movie
19 - Mr. Magnorium's Wonder Emporium
20 - Starship Dave

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/CLTU06309102007-1.htm

It should easily be #1 in 2008 at the box office hands down. One thing that's gonna be interesting is seeing Steve Carell attempt to do Get Smart. How the hell can you even copy Adam's performance. He was the draw to that series. He's what made it so damn funny. I hope Steve pulls it off.

[scifiwolf]

Where are the pics of the Soviet tree mulchers?
Go to Harrison Ford Web. (http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/showphoto.php/photo/6546)

[Mr. Socko]

It should easily be #1 in 2008 at the box office hands down. One thing that's gonna be interesting is seeing Steve Carell attempt to do Get Smart. How the hell can you even copy Adam's performance. He was the draw to that series. He's what made it so damn funny. I hope Steve pulls it off.


Indy 4 will definitely be #1 in the summer, but of the whole year, I'm not sure since HP-HBP is released next year as well. But it should be a strong one.

I can't wait for Get Smart. Carell looks just like Don Adams did in the show:up:

[Cinemaman]

I :heart: Steven :)

Same here :up:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Go to Harrison Ford Web. (http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/showphoto.php/photo/6546)

Thank you!

[Cory]

Harry Potter: Half Blood Prince will easily be the #1 movie of 08. unless indy or TDK miraculously make 900+

[Golgo-13]

Aren't ppl tired of HP Yet? I mean, i like Potter too, but i didn't even bother going to see the last one. I'll wait until it comes on tv.

[Mr. Socko]

Aren't ppl tired of HP Yet? I mean, i like Potter too, but i didn't even bother going to see the last one. I'll wait until it comes on tv.

On The Deathly Hallows first day of sales, it sold 11 million copies in the UK and U.S., breaking the record of 9 million held by the sixth book. In the U.S., 8.3 million hardcovers were sold during the first 24 hours, breaking the record of 6.9 million set by the sixth book.

Order of the Phoenix Box Office Intake:

Domestic: $290, 690, 107
+ Foreign: $644, 700, 000
______________________
Worldwide: $935, 390, 107

I'm going to take an educated guess and say No.

[Advanced Dark]

Harry Potter: Half Blood Prince will easily be the #1 movie of 08. unless indy or TDK miraculously make 900+

Indy will beat it domestically without question. International should be Potter.

[Spider-Vader]

I noticed during the "calm" scenes in Crusade Brody's smart like in Raiders, but during the action scenes he was C-3PO like.
Nice to know Indy's #1, I can see it being 1 domestically & 2 world wide.

[Cinemaman]

I doubt Indy 4 will get #1, more likely Narnia 2 will take it. But I won't be sureprised, if it makes more than $200m, what still means success.

[Spider-Vader]

Narnia dosen't seem like a Summer movie, it'll do good but not as good as the original. Take Potter for example the best making ones were released in winter.

[DocHoliday]

Guys do not forget WALL-E I do believe it is slated for 2008 as well.

[Marvolo]

Narnia dosen't seem like a Summer movie, it'll do good but not as good as the original. Take Potter for example the best making ones were released in winter.

The highest grossing Potter film was released in the winter, and the second highest grossing Potter film was released in the summer. So that statement is false, because the highest grossing Potter films were released in the summer and the winter.

[Marvolo]

wrong

Your the one that is wrong.

Listed in order from greatest to least boxoffice.


1. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

November 16, 2001

Domestic: $317,575,550
Foreign: $658,900,000
Worldwide: $976,475,550

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

July 11, 2007

Domestic: $290,753,534
Foreign: $644,700,000
Worldwide:$935,534

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

3. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

November 18, 2005

Domestic: $290,013,036
Foreign: $606,003,123
Worldwide:$896,016,159

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

November 15,2002

Domestic: $261,988,482
Foreign: $617,000,000
Worldwide:$878,988,482

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

5. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

June 4, 2004

Domestic: $249,541,069
Foreign: $546,000,000
Worldwide:$795,541,069



This info is courtesy of BoxOfficeMojo. Check your facts.

[Timstuff]

Harry Potter: Half Blood Prince will easily be the #1 movie of 08. unless indy or TDK miraculously make 900+

You've got to be kidding me. Harry Potter besting Indiana Jones for the box office? Indiana Jones has been a household name for dacades, while Harry Potter has not. The last Harry Potter came out this summer, while the last Indiana Jones came out in '89. People have been waiting for a new Indiana Jones way longer than they've been waiting for Harry Potter. They will both make a boatload of moolah, but I doubt Harry Potter will make more than Indy.

[Lord Valumart]

if potter makes more than indy i'll officaly give up hope for the world

[Lady Stormcrow]

Guys do not forget WALL-E I do believe it is slated for 2008 as well.

Oh yeah! That film looks so freakin' adorable.

[Lord Valumart]

adorable don;t cut it...

indy FTW:up:

[Cinemaman]

Wall-E has a really good potential to be #1 among other animated flicks :up:

[Spider-Vader]

I doubt Narnia will out-do Indy or Batman.

[echostation]

HP beat the hell out of Superman Returns overall in terms of gross... I see no problem in HP doing the same to Indy

[SolidSnakeMGS]

HP beat the hell out of Superman Returns overall in terms of gross... I see no problem in HP doing the same to Indy

Indy and Superman aren't comparable at all. Different situation entirely. A lot of people didn't know what to think about SR whereas there is no confusion about Indy. I expect we'll get a more traditional marketing strategy for Indy whereas the SR one was pretty experimental and failed, IMO.

Superman movies also declined in quality while the Indy movies are widely regarded as being all pretty solid entries. Superman also came about when we simply had too many comic book movies of varying quality out there, and the public didn't know what to think of such a boy scout like Superman returning to the screen, especially with the best actor to portray him is gone.

[Spider-Vader]

HP didn't beat ROTS. Atleast domestically.
SW & IJ go hand-in-hand.

[Cinemaman]

I doubt Narnia will out-do Indy or Batman.

The first one made about $300m, so I guess it will be some kind of new POTC2. But everything is possible.

[scifiwolf]

Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who was mostly unimpressed with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?

[Mr. Socko]

I actually never saw Narnia. I'll get around to it one day.

[LostSon88]

I thought it was okay...

I think we've all been spoiled by LOTR...hence why I felt somewhat underwhelmed.

[Cory]

You've got to be kidding me. Harry Potter besting Indiana Jones for the box office? Indiana Jones has been a household name for dacades, while Harry Potter has not. The last Harry Potter came out this summer, while the last Indiana Jones came out in '89. People have been waiting for a new Indiana Jones way longer than they've been waiting for Harry Potter. They will both make a boatload of moolah, but I doubt Harry Potter will make more than Indy.


No sir...Youve got to be kidding ME. Indiana is and old, old franchise....entire families are all about HP, because of THE KIDS. there are no kids interested in IJ4. honestly...its too hard to tell whats bigger....no trailers or teasers at all....

but HP will definately beat IJ4. i love indy. dont get me wrong...but for a old franchise randomly coming back 20 years later, beat out a cultural phenom...highly doubtful....Rocky came back, and didnt so s**.

no way in hell indy beats harry., or narnia...

the way i see it....
1. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
2. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
3. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4. The Dark Knight

[Cory]

also....Indy...in no way, will break 900 million...where as HP will.

[LostSon88]

Rocky came back, and didnt so s**.

Rocky did pretty well considering their budget...they more than doubled it at the BO. It was also well received by critics and fans alike. So for the most part, it was a successful return of the franchise.

Oh and also don't forget a little movie called, Live Free or Die Hard, that actually did rather well too.

So the whole, "Old Franchise" argument IMO, doesn't really stand up to scrutnity.

But then again, Rocky and DH isn't an 'epic' type of franchise like IJ. So whatever...

[Cory]

Rocky did pretty well considering their budget...they more than doubled it at the BO. It was also well received by critics and fans alike. So for the most part, it was a successful return of the franchise.

Oh and also don't forget a little movie called, Live Free or Die Hard, that actually did rather well too.

So the whole, "Old Franchise" defense IMO, doesn't really stand up to scrutnity.

But then again, Rocky and DH isn't an 'epic' type of franchise like IJ. So whatever...

i see ur point...but their world wide income is nothing to that of harry potter... and diehards last movie was in like 96...

but your right, die hard and rocky arent epics....but neither is indy....indy is not an epic movie, none of them.... hell HP is questionably epic....

but the fan base alone is too much for indy. HP has more fans than indy does, NO DOUBT. harry potter is nearing the end of its franchise. last 2 movies of 7....and indy is making a random comeback....more people wanna see the end, then a "ran out of ideas for new movies" ploy.

ill be there opening day for indy, and HP.... but theres no way in hell indy will beat out HP....theres nothing we can say until dec 31st 2008...but when that day comes, unless theres a massive theatre power outage the day HP comes out, HP will dominate.

[Mr. Socko]

No sir...Youve got to be kidding ME. Indiana is and old, old franchise....entire families are all about HP, because of THE KIDS. there are no kids interested in IJ4. honestly...its too hard to tell whats bigger....no trailers or teasers at all....

but HP will definately beat IJ4. i love indy. dont get me wrong...but for a old franchise randomly coming back 20 years later, beat out a cultural phenom...highly doubtful....Rocky came back, and didnt so s**.

no way in hell indy beats harry., or narnia...

the way i see it....
1. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
2. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
3. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4. The Dark Knight


Pretty much, I agree. Worldwide Indy won't surpass Narnia or Potter. Domestic though, it stands a chance, although that isn't what matters most.

[Cory]

Pretty much, I agree. Worldwide Indy won't surpass Narnia or Potter. Domestic though, it stands a chance, although that isn't what matters most.


i hate saying it, cause i want indy to be HUGE....but it just aint happening, it will be big, but wont even compete with HP or Narnia....

it will be .... HP VS Narnia.... HP winning, and winning 2008...then Indy Vs TDK. im not even gonna add Iron Man, cause comon, stands no chance with indy and bats...

domestically...it stands a CHANCE.... but still, your talking about the last 2 movies of a historic franchise...and HP:HBP is a book setting the table for the final battle... this is nothing like LOTR...this is a 7 part series...and its bearing down on the final 2 parts... honestly, if HP5 made as much as it did...HP6 will make 950....MAYBE....emphasize MAYBE a billion. HP7 a billion, no doubt. But Indy..comon...making 900 million is a miracle for indy. chances are it will make 700-750 world wide. the anticipation is just not there for a 900 million dollar movie. maybe for us fan geeks:cwink: , but general public wise....i bet many, many people dont even know a new indy is coming!!! but a new HP....IS A GIVEN.

[Spider-Vader]

Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who was mostly unimpressed with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?

I was. It was OK.

LFODH did pretty damn good for a franchise that hasn't been seen for 12 years & the first 3 being made of R rated movies.

Who really wanted to see another Rocky they're all basically the same thing.

[LostSon88]

I did...because Rocky 5 was terrible.

Rocky Balboa was a perfect bookend to the first movie.

It even works without the previous 4 sequels...it could very well have been a direct follow up to the first one.

[Cory]

i just dont know how anyone is thinking this movie is gonna be huge just because its indy....it could very well suck terribly.

[LostSon88]

Alight, lets ignore the fact that its Indiana Jones. And look at it like this,

Its a summer adventure film:

-Starring Harrison Ford

-Directed by Steven Spielberg

-Produced by George Lucas

3 of some of the BIGGEST NAMES IN HOLLYWOOD COLLABORATING FOR THIS MOVIE.

Add to that the co-starring of Shia Lebouf--one of the fastest rising stars in Hollywood.

AND...its opening on Memorial Day weekend.

THAT'S WHY PEOPLE THINK ITS GONNA BE HUGE...and can you blame em'?

The Marquee alone should be enough to sell some tickets...

[Cory]

all thats good and all...but doesnt mean it will beat out HP or Narnia.

not to mention..Starring Harrison Ford doesnt mean that much these days, or the past 10 years. and Stephen Spielberg....nothing good has come out of his name for a long time either...Shia is big bc of Transformers...thats all. and TF made 700 mil....

Big to me, is 500-700 million
Huge to me, is 800 and on...

Indy...700-750 Tops.

[Steelsheen]

I thought it was okay...

I think we've all been spoiled by LOTR...hence why I felt somewhat underwhelmed.

theres some truth in that.

[Tempest19]

In my mind LOTR & Narnia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter

[Cory]

LOTR>Potter...yes, so far..

Narnia>potter....ehhh...No.

[Mike]

Yeah Narnia was kinda corny.......... It wasnt as magical as the mini series I saw as a kid.

[Tempest19]

NARNIA > potter.... HELL YEAH!!!!

Face it not everyone likes Potter, frankly Im sick of boy wizard

[DocHoliday]

In my mind LOTR & Narnia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter

LOTR I agree with and I have only read/watched the first Narnia so I couldn't say quite yet.

[arachnid-guy]

I have just realised something.

This is going to be the first Indy film I will watch on the big screen. :wow:

[scifiwolf]

I've seen Raiders in the theater.

Anyways, back on topic...

Filming wrapped up in Fresno on Friday October 12. (http://brodiemash.blogspot.com/2007/10/it-belongs-in-museum.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/mrsskywalker/Indy.jpg

[Spider-Vader]

The way I see it.
Domestic
1. Indy IV
2. Harry Potter VI
3. The Dark Knight
4. Iron Man
5. Narnia II

World Wide:
1. Harry Potter 6
2. Indy IV
3. Narnia II
4. The Dark Knight
5. Iron Man

Indy will do great, & I'll laugh when us, the die-hard Indy fans, are right. :woot:

That ticket website had Indy as the highest-want to see movie for everyone & men & women.....Narnia #5. Hmmm....

[MR.Fixit]

I bet the Incredible Hulk takes out most of them at the Box Office. Any takers?

[Bishop2]

I have just realised something.

This is going to be the first Indy film I will watch on the big screen. :wow:

I saw Last Crusade in its first run at a friend's birthday party when I was 9 years old. ;)

[Lord Valumart]

you guys are lucky to have seen films on the big screen:csad:

i saw the wicker man(origonal) on the big screen and my god it really does make a huge difference!

i can only imagine how awesome Raiders would have been:csad:

[Advanced Dark]

Raider's on the big screen was amazing. You can get the same effect with some of these home theatres though...actually it's even better as you don't have to get your seat kicked and listen to all the drones munching on popcorn, and tearing the wrapping off their concessions.

[Matt Murdock]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/edlewis657/378414193_ace0b2bb8a_o.gif

[Mr. Socko]

I've seen Raiders in the theater.

Anyways, back on topic...

Filming wrapped up in Fresno on Friday October 12. (http://brodiemash.blogspot.com/2007/10/it-belongs-in-museum.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/mrsskywalker/Indy.jpg

:up: :up: :up:

[Spider-Vader]

I bet the Incredible Hulk takes out most of them at the Box Office. Any takers?

Ahahhahhahahhha!
People will back away because of how crappy the first was.

[Captain Clown]

I've seen Raiders in the theater.

Anyways, back on topic...

Filming wrapped up in Fresno on Friday October 12. (http://brodiemash.blogspot.com/2007/10/it-belongs-in-museum.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/mrsskywalker/Indy.jpg

Greatness.

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_temple_of_boom/

Absolutely astounding!

[Excel]

Raider's on the big screen was amazing. You can get the same effect with some of these home theatres though...actually it's even better as you don't have to get your seat kicked and listen to all the drones munching on popcorn, and tearing the wrapping off their concessions.

movies with sold out; 500 seat theaters are the bomb. Borat opening in an opening night sold out 650 seater...i gave it 1000/10 in a theater with the crowd; but at home i was like "wtf is this?"

[Agentsands77]

NARNIA > potter.... HELL YEAH!!!!
As far as books go? Yes. By far.

As far as movies go? No. The first NARNIA movie was a mediocre film (and an insult to the work of C. S. Lewis). We'll see if the sequels fare any better, but for now, they have yet to reach the quality of even the weaker Potter films.

[Fried Gold]

Does Indy not have a gun in this film? In all of the pics I've seen so far, he's not wearing a gunbelt...

[The Amazing Lee]

When can we expect a trailer?

[GoldGoblin]

Does Indy not have a gun in this film? In all of the pics I've seen so far, he's not wearing a gunbelt...

^
Because there gonna CGI it:yay:

[Cory]

I bet the Incredible Hulk takes out most of them at the Box Office. Any takers?


......bahahahaha

[britrogue]

Is it only two official pics so far?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Does Indy not have a gun in this film? In all of the pics I've seen so far, he's not wearing a gunbelt...

CGI walkie talkie.

Indy better have his pistol. If they've removed it to be more family-friendly, my respect from Steven will dwindle.

[chamber-music]

CGI walkie talkie.

Indy better have his pistol. If they've removed it to be more family-friendly, my respect from Steven will dwindle.

Yeah I hope Spielberg doesn't go into one of his soft moments as Lucas calls it.

[The Amazing Spider-Man]

http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_temple_of_boom/

Absolutely astounding!

Now THAT is how you do a home theater. That's incredible. The Star Wars one is pretty nice too. Didn't take a look at the Star Trek ones though.

[Spider-Vader]

Does Indy not have a gun in this film? In all of the pics I've seen so far, he's not wearing a gunbelt...

Where's his jacket?

[Matt Murdock]

His jacket wasn't as iconic as the pistol, fedora, or whip.

[danoyse]

Raider's on the big screen was amazing. You can get the same effect with some of these home theatres though...actually it's even better as you don't have to get your seat kicked and listen to all the drones munching on popcorn, and tearing the wrapping off their concessions.

I got to see all 3 of them on the big screen last year at the Zeigfeld, which is this old theater palace in NY--they still do premieres there, the theater has about 1000 seats, and only one screen. The curtain opens and closes before and after each show.

Last year they were showing all 3 of them for a week, and my dad and I saw all 3 on the same day. The prints weren't totally new, but they still looked great, especially Raiders. :up:

[DocHoliday]

His jacket wasn't as iconic as the pistol, fedora, or whip.

To me it is. However he doesn't wear it in the movie as much as people think. Chances are we are just seeing him without it on because of the heat. I am sure he throws it on between takes when outside.

[scifiwolf]

Since this thread hasn't gotten any love all week, here's a tidbit with Ray Winstone, courtesy of IESB.net (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3547&Itemid=99). He talks about Beowulf and Indy in the interview. Hit the link at the bottm of the article to watch the video.

[Carmine Falcone]

So, any idea when the first trailer will be released?

[Hunter Rider]

So, any idea when the first trailer will be released?11/16

[Carmine Falcone]

The eleventh of the sixteenth month? ;)

[Cinemaman]

^^^

I guess he meant November 16th :D

If it's true, then Paramount will most likely attach it to Beowulf.

[Mr. Socko]

The eleventh of the sixteenth month? ;)

People write dates differently in certain parts of the world.

^^^

I guess he meant November 16th :D

If it's true, then Paramount will most likely attach it to Beowulf.

I really hope so. I'm looking forward to Beowulf, an Indy trailer before it would be the sweetest icing I've ever tasted on an already great cake.

[Hunter Rider]

Dammit, i thought Carmine would be with me since we are both in Europe. :csad::oldrazz:

[Carmine Falcone]

People write dates differently in certain parts of the world.

I know, hence the wink smiley.

[Mr. Socko]

I know, hence the wink smiley.


oh, my mistake :up:

[Spider-Vader]

His jacket wasn't as iconic as the pistol, fedora, or whip.


So? Indy needs the jacket.

[scifiwolf]

I'd say it boils down to the jacket, whip, and fedora. Every Halloween costume I've seen since the weekend has had those three things, if nothing else.

[Mr Jide]

So? Indy needs the jacket.

He didn't always where the jacket. Did he even wear it once in TOD? Can't remember. I always found it strange that Indy wore the black leather jacket in the heat doing all that macho heroic stuff.

[DocHoliday]

He didn't always where the jacket. Did he even wear it once in TOD? Can't remember. I always found it strange that Indy wore the black leather jacket in the heat doing all that macho heroic stuff.

Yes he did have it on ToD but far less than he had it in the other films.

[DorkyFresh]

TMZ managed to get a good picture of Karen...

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/10/1030_karen_allen_2_getty.jpg

...imo, she's aged BEAUTIFULLY! she doesn't look 56 at all, more like 40 or so. here's another pic that was around the net. sorry if it's already been posted...

http://weblogs.variety.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/26/karenallenindianajones_4.jpg

[Mr. Socko]

www.indianajones.com


New production video up!

[scifiwolf]

Thanks Socko. I was going to post it yesterday, but Halloween stuff got in the way.

I can't wait to actually get some stuff of real substance from this movie. I was hoping that the trailer would be with Beowulf, but there are murmurings that we won't get it until Christmas. Someone on IMDb posted a "description" of it, which sounds pretty cool. Unfortunately, it's IMDb's forum, so it's less reliable than if a toilet bowl said it.

[Carmine Falcone]

Holy ****, John Hurt looks badass!

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9802/hurtea5.png

:p:up:

[BatJeff7786]

So we're literally weeks away from a trailer right? Didn't they say around Thanksgiving?

[Threshold]

Beowulf is coming out November 16th and it's gonna be pretty huge and it's also Paramount... could it be with that?

[Kanon]

any direct links for the wrap filming video? I'm having some trouble...

[Karea07]

i hope this movie is bad ass and not too campy for kids or some ****.

[Mr. Socko]

I really hope the trailer is with Beowulf. And Lucas said it would be out in November.

[Spider-Vader]

any direct links for the wrap filming video? I'm having some trouble...
Just go to Indiana Jones.com. Then click videos.

[Sebastos]

I can't wait for a trailer. I really anticipate it. :up:

[Wedge A.]

Yeah, I think Lucas said the teaser trailer will be released around Thanksgiving.

[Dark_Lord]

Friend of TFN, Ryan P., sent us the following Indy 4 teaser trailer transcript that was taken from TheRaider.net. It seems the post at the site has been taken down. I wonder what that means...

"This is a transcript for the teaser trailer for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that is currently being rated. It will be released on 22nd November. I work at the classification board so I've seen it a few times and it looks awesome."

TRANSCRIPT:

Paramount logo.

Black screen.

We hear a low buzzing.

Shot of a mass of big jeeps crossing the desert.

Fade to black.

JIM BROADBENT: There are many secrets in this world...

Shot of a wooden box being loaded onto a loader.

Fade to black.

JIM BROADBENT: ...that man was not meant to discover!

Shot of the Ark being lifted out of its confines as military scientists watch in awe.

Fade to black.

A shot of the lid being lifted off the Ark.

Cut to black.

Cut to Indy and Jim in a university hallway.

JIM BROADBENT: There are others who seek the power of the Ark now!

Cut to black.

Shot of Indy leaving the university, looks like he's being watched.

Shot a woman in a white dress stepping from a vehicle.

CATE: Your services are required, Dr Jones.

Shot of Cate talking to Indy, she opens a box revealing a crystal skull.

INDIANA: I'm sorry, I cant help you!

Shot of Marion tied up in the back of a vehicle, kicking and screaming. The door opens and Indy reacts.

CATE: Your reward...is her life!

INDIANA: Marion!

Shot of a ship crossing the ocean.

Massive shot of Indy and Ray Winstone in a temple.

Shot of Shia fighting next to rotating blades.

Shot of a huge Mayan city.

Shot of Indy racing through catacombs.

Shot of Cate slapping Marion. Marion slaps her back.

Shot of Cate by the crystal skull alter, a fleet of soldiers behind her. We can just see the ark, she places a crystal skull down!

Shot of Jim Broadbent looking very worried.

Shot of A Mayan temple exploding with the power of the Ark

Shot of Indy and Shia swinging across a huge ravine as walls collapse around them. Shia slips at the edge; Indy grabs his Hand.

TITLES: INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL

Shot of Marion punching Indy.

INDY: I should have seen that coming!

2008
Sounds legit but who knows. We shall see soon enough!

TheForce.net (http://www.theforce.net/holonet/story/Indy_4_Teaser_Trailer_Details_109871.asp)

[블라스]

I don't know if that's real or not, but just reading the description for a FREAKING TEASER FOR A NEW INDY JONES MOVIE put a huuuuuuge smile on my face.

[scifiwolf]

Dark_Lord, that description is from th IMDb forums, which I mentioned earlier. I didn't post it because, like I said, that site is about as reliable as, well, it's not reliable at all. If it turns out by some miracle to be accurate, I'll give IMDb forums the first bit of credit its ever deserved.

[terry78]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38988

Guy that stole stuff from the Indy set is getting two years in prison.

[Bad Superman]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38988

Guy that stole stuff from the Indy set is getting two years in prison.

He's in for some serious butt whipping. . . . Pun intended. :cmad: :up: :up:

[The Amazing Lee]

YAY! the trailer comes out on my birthday...what a treat. :D

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38988

Guy that stole stuff from the Indy set is getting two years in prison.


That's being owned!

I hope he rots.

[Sebastos]

Serves him right.

[Spider-Vader]

I don't know if that's real or not, but just reading the description for a FREAKING TEASER FOR A NEW INDY JONES MOVIE put a huuuuuuge smile on my face.
Ditto.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21456

13 November 2007

Lego Reveals Hints To Indy IV Set Pieces
And a trailer for the game
Source: Brickset (http://www.brickset.com/search.aspx?Theme=Indiana%20Jones)

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/150x180/23810.jpg http://www.empireonline.com/images/point.gif
http://www.empireonline.com/images/point.gif

The Lego fansite (yes there are such things) Brickset has discovered the names of some upcoming Indiana Jones Lego sets that give hints to set pieces in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The site, which you can visit here (http://www.brickset.com/search.aspx?Theme=Indiana%20Jones), lists four sets called Jungle Duel, River Chase, Jungle Cutter and Temple of the Crystal Skull, which we can assume will relate to big scenes in the movie, otherwise why would Lego make sets based around them?

OK, that doesn't go into specifics, but it as good as confirms that the movie will be jungle-centric and tells us that the titular Crystal Skull will be housed in a temple, lending credence to the rumours that this film will be very much a hark back to Raiders of the Lost Ark.

There are also images of the Lego sets based on the first three movies. There are four of those too. There's 'Temple Escape', 'Race For The Lost Treasure' and 'Lost Tomb' from Raiders and 'Motorcycle Chase' from Last Crusade (Lego Sean Connery!). They seem to be ignoring Temple of Doom, which means we may never see a Lego Short Round, which is sad.

While we're on all things Lego and Indiana Jones, you can see a trailer for the upcoming computer game here (http://www.lucasarts.com/games/legoindianajones/), which looks pretty cute.

[Lord Valumart]

goddamnit...i wanna buy legos again now:csad:

and it's a shame we don;t get indy 4 in the lego indy game:csad:

[DarkSuperman]

JUNIOR! JUNIOR!

Why do you keep calling him Junior?

Because that's his name! Henry Jones Jr! We named the dog Indiana...

You were named after the dog?! *hysterical laughter*

I have a lot of fond memories of that dog!


HAHA.

Connery should have been in it! He was my fav in the Last Crusade!

[scifiwolf]

Ray Winstone Whips It Good With ‘Indy 4’

Larry Carroll
November 6, 2007

We’ve seen his not-so-buff bod in “Sexy Beast,” heard him voice the adorable Mr. Beaver in “Narnia,” and now he’s being turned into the titular hero of the CGI flick “Beowulf.” But these days, it’s Ray Winstone’s action film that has everybody talking.

“You go there, and you see the first camera move, and then you realize you’re in an Indiana Jones film,” the 50-year-old actor said excitedly when asked about his recent experiences on “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”. “It’s a film I never thought I’d ever be making. Then you get a little bit [more] excited, because it’s something your kids are going to be able to watch. And working with Steven Spielberg and [George Lucas] … They’re geniuses; these are clever men, and they’re great filmmakers, and you feel like you’re in the company of these people. What happened? How did I get from there to here?”

Confirming that he’s worked with both the trademark Indy hat and whip, Winstone said that the beloved movie props gave him chills. “Yep, without any shadow of a doubt — and without even realizing I was going to be like that,” he grinned. “Harrison really uses the whip — he can hit a spot on a door with the whip! The man runs around like a 17-year-old.”

Although the veil of secrecy on the film remains tough to crack, the beefy British actor did concede that he plays a sidekick to Ford’s iconic hero. “It’s alright, I like it,” he said of the second-banana role, along the same lines as Short Round in “Temple of Doom”. “I’ve enjoyed working with [Ford]; it’s fun.”

As for the script, Winstone said that “Crystal” mixes its action, heartfelt moments and comedy in equal amounts. “They wouldn’t last forever if they just had action,” he explained. “If it all works to plan, which I’m sure it will, it [will have that mix]; it starts off with a gallop, and [the script] just gets quicker and quicker and quicker. It’s one hell of a story, actually.”
Furthermore, the actor expressed enthusiasm for the work of franchise newcomer Shia LaBeouf, who he said has brought the Indy world a welcomed sense of improv. “Shia’s a great kid. He’s got his feet on the ground, and he’s a born actor, this boy,” Winstone observed. “I like him a lot.”

And despite what many have assumed, Winstone insists that the humor of the film isn’t necessarily dependent on Indy delivering “I’m too old for this”-type lines after an action scene. “I don’t think so,” he assured. “I wouldn’t want to race Harrison around the block; he would beat me. He’s looking fit as a fiddle.”


http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/06/ray-winstone-whips-it-good-with-indy-4/

[Sebastos]

Great read. :up:

[Spider-Vader]

Maybe 'River Chase' is from LC & 'Jungle Cutter' is from TOD. Cutter being the Bridge cutting sequence.

[Sebastos]

There's an Indy lego game coming out for the 360, can't wait for that.

[Spider-Vader]

Also PS3 & Wii probably PSP too.

[Agentsands77]

Maybe 'River Chase' is from LC & 'Jungle Cutter' is from TOD. Cutter being the Bridge cutting sequence.
I don't know about the river chase, but jungle cutter is from KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. It refers to an action sequence involving Russian tree-cutter like vehicles that are plowing their way through the jungle.

[Sebastos]

Also PS3 & Wii probably PSP too.

Yes, forgot to mention them.

[NewYorkSpider]

I found this fake teaser trailer that I thought was good. Kinda gave me goosebumps. Also, the title at the end isn't right.

nYPECXaVulg

[Ring Deacon]

I found this fake teaser trailer that I thought was good. Kinda gave me goosebumps. Also, the title at the end isn't right.

nYPECXaVulg

Not half bad. I just wish they would have found a clip of Ford puting the hat on for the end of it. That would have made it perfect.

[Watson]

Ray Winstone Whips It Good With ‘Indy 4’

Larry Carroll
November 6, 2007

We’ve seen his not-so-buff bod in “Sexy Beast,” heard him voice the adorable Mr. Beaver in “Narnia,” and now he’s being turned into the titular hero of the CGI flick “Beowulf.” But these days, it’s Ray Winstone’s action film that has everybody talking.

“You go there, and you see the first camera move, and then you realize you’re in an Indiana Jones film,” the 50-year-old actor said excitedly when asked about his recent experiences on “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”. “It’s a film I never thought I’d ever be making. Then you get a little bit [more] excited, because it’s something your kids are going to be able to watch. And working with Steven Spielberg and [George Lucas] … They’re geniuses; these are clever men, and they’re great filmmakers, and you feel like you’re in the company of these people. What happened? How did I get from there to here?”

Confirming that he’s worked with both the trademark Indy hat and whip, Winstone said that the beloved movie props gave him chills. “Yep, without any shadow of a doubt — and without even realizing I was going to be like that,” he grinned. “Harrison really uses the whip — he can hit a spot on a door with the whip! The man runs around like a 17-year-old.”

Although the veil of secrecy on the film remains tough to crack, the beefy British actor did concede that he plays a sidekick to Ford’s iconic hero. “It’s alright, I like it,” he said of the second-banana role, along the same lines as Short Round in “Temple of Doom”. “I’ve enjoyed working with [Ford]; it’s fun.”

As for the script, Winstone said that “Crystal” mixes its action, heartfelt moments and comedy in equal amounts. “They wouldn’t last forever if they just had action,” he explained. “If it all works to plan, which I’m sure it will, it [will have that mix]; it starts off with a gallop, and [the script] just gets quicker and quicker and quicker. It’s one hell of a story, actually.”
Furthermore, the actor expressed enthusiasm for the work of franchise newcomer Shia LaBeouf, who he said has brought the Indy world a welcomed sense of improv. “Shia’s a great kid. He’s got his feet on the ground, and he’s a born actor, this boy,” Winstone observed. “I like him a lot.”

And despite what many have assumed, Winstone insists that the humor of the film isn’t necessarily dependent on Indy delivering “I’m too old for this”-type lines after an action scene. “I don’t think so,” he assured. “I wouldn’t want to race Harrison around the block; he would beat me. He’s looking fit as a fiddle.”


http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/06/ray-winstone-whips-it-good-with-indy-4/

that seems like an akward comparison...

[SolidSnakeMGS]

There's an Indy lego game coming out for the 360, can't wait for that.

There's a full fledged Indy next gen game coming out for 360.

vRUfN5-N6eI

[블라스]

So, are we getting a teaser with Beowulf? :confused:

[Advanced Dark]

I heard that from a good source.

[scifiwolf]

If we don't see it with Beowulf (and I doubt it from lack of news), we could still get it with The Mist or Hitman next week. If we get it in December, I'd expect it with Sweeny Todd.

[Sebastos]

There's a full fledged Indy next gen game coming out for 360.

vRUfN5-N6eI

Awesome, never saw that trailer.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If we don't see it with Beowulf (and I doubt it from lack of news), we could still get it with The Mist or Hitman next week. If we get it in December, I'd expect it with Sweeny Todd.

If we get it in December I would expect it to be with I Am Legend. They have been advertising that movie like **** & it has the chance to be a really big movie for Will Smith.

[scifiwolf]

I forgot about Legend. Man, Indy and TDK with Legend - that would be a nice Christmas gift. :up:

[Jack Napier]

I really hope that damn trailer comes out with Beowulf, but who knows? I've been waiting for this movie for 15 years, and it's the main reason I've ever been on any film board.

But for all of you who are anticipating this film like I am, check out this fanmade trailer of the other movies, it's excellent. Really gets you pumped for the new movie! :word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCgJACYsOSo

[Mr. Socko]

I really hope the teaser is with Beowulf as well. I'm looking forward to that movie. An Indy 4 trailer before it would be icing on an already perfect cake.

Great video Jack!

[Matt Murdock]

I think i should make some more manips!

[Spider-Vader]

Come on release the trailer online like Iron Man!

[Mr. Socko]

I was hoping we'd get it with Beowulf. Dammit! Hopefully with a movie this coming Friday. I don't think they'll release it exclusively for the internet.

[Jack Napier]

It will really be amazing to see the teaser trailer for this. With all the years of script rewrites, countless writers, and a constant cycle of greenlight/red light, this movie will actually be in theaters almost six months from now.

There aren't many promotional stills available, so it's still hard to believe this movie is coming out. When I see that trailer, it will hit me, and damn it, I will be whooping and hollering for a while :woot:

[Spider-Vader]

Paramount needs to release the trailer & start re-airing the OT on TV to prepare hype.

[Enriquespy]

Paramount needs to release the trailer & start re-airing the OT on TV to prepare hype.

OT? but yes, the advertising is even slower than TDK one...:csad:

[Spider-Vader]

Atleast TDK has one. All this has is a T-shirt only available at SWS.com.
OT meaning the first 3. OT is easier to type. :oldrazz:

[Drizzle]

Okay, the teaser trailer should hit with any movie now. My guess is with "The Golden Compass", or "National Treasure II" at the very latest.

[scifiwolf]

Lucas said very specifically the trailer "before Christmas." That likely means we'll see it within the two weeks leading up to December 25, attached to Golden Compass, National Treasure 2, or I Am Legend. Each one of those seems plausible. Compass will have very broad exposure. NT2 has the benefit of sharing the adventure genre. Legend is a Dreamworks picture, to whom Paramount is a parent company.

[Watson]

Lucas said very specifically the trailer "before Christmas." That likely means we'll see it within the two weeks leading up to December 25, attached to Golden Compass, National Treasure 2, or I Am Legend. Each one of those seems plausible. Compass will have very broad exposure. NT2 has the benefit of sharing the adventure genre. Legend is a Dreamworks picture, to whom Paramount is a parent company.

Rumour is though that The Dark Knight teaser trailer will be attached to Legend, which is actually a WB movie, not Dreamworks.

[Spider-Vader]

Soooooo..... Very slow Indy IV news week. 0.o

[Mr. Socko]

More like very slow Indy IV month :(

I want the damn trailer soon. Doesn't seem like we'll get it until December though. I doubt it will play with I Am Legend. I'd go with The Golden Compass. Oh, I completely forgot about National Treasurer. Maybe it'll play with that. On a side note, NT2 seems like a complete rehash of the first one.

The closest thing I could find to news was a picture of GentleGiant's new Indy figures scheduled for release next year. Look kinda cheap, I'm waiting on the expensive-morethanIcanspend figures to blow all my cash on. Then on one other note, the official Lucasfilm e-shop store is selling Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls t-shirts. I'll pick one up soon. :up:

[Spider-Fan]

There is a trailer coming for this soon?

Probably gonna be with NT2...seems like it since the movies have some what related premises.

Though, as people know, I don't expect much from this movie.

[Mr. Socko]

There is a trailer coming for this soon?

Probably gonna be with NT2...seems like it since the movies have some what related premises.

Though, as people know, I don't expect much from this movie.


:wow::wow::wow:

Well I guess in that case, you'll just come out loving it even more, eh:woot:

[Spider-Fan]

:wow::wow::wow:

Well I guess in that case, you'll just come out loving it even more, eh:woot:

No, I more think of it as I can't walk out of it feeling disappointed if it sucks, cause I kind of expected it. This movie is way too late, imo.

[Mr. Socko]

No, I more think of it as I can't walk out of it feeling disappointed if it sucks, cause I kind of expected it. This movie is way too late, imo.


We'll show you!

This is my most anticipated movie of the year, Indy can never come too late!

[Spider-Fan]

We'll show you!

This is my most anticipated movie of the year, Indy can never come too late!

Yes it can...and I think it is. Plus, the news about his son, Shia, etc. doesn't exactly have me very jazzed.

Iron Man will stomp the floor with this!!! Perhaps not at the BO, but in the court of my opinion.

[Backdrifter]

Yes it can...and I think it is. Plus, the news about his son, Shia, etc. doesn't exactly have me very jazzed.

Iron Man will stomp the floor with this!!! Perhaps not at the BO, but in the court of my opinion.This movie is going to be absolutley fantastic. Spielberg said he is making this movie for the fans. When he says something like that you know he is aiming to please audiences all over the world and that is something he does best.

[dark_b]

This movie is going to be absolutley fantastic. Spielberg said he is making this movie for the fans. When he says something like that you know he is aiming to please audiences all over the world and that is something he does best.and from my expreience when a director says that eh is making the movie for the people then it doesnt look good.

IMO the director must first make the movie for himself. but as a fan i get you. when spielberg said that he is making the movie for you you had an orgasm.

[Backdrifter]

and from my expreience when a director says that eh is making the movie for the people then it doesnt look good.

IMO the director must first make the movie for himself. but as a fan i get you. when spielberg said that he is making the movie for you you had an orgasm.

Well the first part of his speech he said that over the past 15 years he has made a lot of different kinds of movies; movies that he needed to make for himself and that Indy 4 is for the fans. But, I think its clear that he's a fan of Indy so in turn is also making it for himself.

[Kevin Roegele]

I still can't quite believe Indiana Jones IV is being made as we speak (type).

Wow.

Although from a certain point of view, it's really just Indiana Jones Epilogue: What He Did in His Twilight Years

[Mr. Socko]

I'd say the tv show is what features the 'epilogue.' Old Indy just reminiscing past events.


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4271/mo11tnuu8.jpg

Ford's still old enough to whoop ass and get the job done.

[Matt Murdock]

T...thats old indy?

[Mr. Socko]

Yes, he was played by the now late George Hall in the television show.

[Spider-Fan]

This movie is going to be absolutley fantastic. Spielberg said he is making this movie for the fans. When he says something like that you know he is aiming to please audiences all over the world and that is something he does best.

Spielberg would never come out and say "I am making a bad movie." No dircetor will. They will all tell you that they are making something amazing, cause they have to sell the movie. I don't trust what any director says about a films quality before it is coming out unless they say it sucks. Then it probably means it does, while they can tell me they are making it for me and still make garbage.

Spielberg can say what he wants, but the news I have seen about this movie does not have me jumping for joy, nor looking forward to it. I still say this sequel is far too late, and hyping myself for this will only end in disappointment.

[Iceburgeruk]

Lucas and Spielburg are idiots. They had the nigh perfect franchise and ruined it.

How you ask?

At the end of last crusade both indy and indy`s father drink from the holy grail. It heals the dad`s wounds and apparantly grants eternal life. The only apparant proviso is that you can`t remove the grail form the place they got it from.

The effects of the grail must extend beyond the interior of that building because otherwise indy`s dad would have died from the wounds immediatly he got out of range.

So where doe this leave us?

Indiana Jones should be Immortal!!! (Barring of course death through injury and murder, the immortality is obviously an extension of life. He would have an unending life expectantcy he would NOT be invulnerable. He could still die from getting shot its just if he doesn`t meet with nay fatal encounters he would live forever.)

And by casting Harrison Ford again they blow the immortality bit out of the water because he has aged. Now the only way we will see future indy films is with indy`s stupid kid running around temples.

It is laughable considering spielburg and lucas had set up the perfect bit in last crusade.

If indy had been left as an immortal they could have had a never ending james bond style franchise where everytime the actor decides to leave you recast. Because indy would be immortal and forever aged about 30-40-ish.

But instead we get geriatric ford and indiana jones junior junior. what a waste.

well at least thats what i think.

[Hunter Rider]

One healed the wounds don't un-heal. :huh:

[Iceburgeruk]

One healed the wounds don't un-heal. :huh:


Yeah but they were mortal injuries that were healed completly by the grail. If the grail`s influence did not extend beyond where they found it then most likely the unnatural effects of the grail would be reversed.

[Hunter Rider]

The effects don't reverse. All the grail does is keep you alive forever if you stay behind the seal. What they do to heal an injury stays as such but the immortality is gone once you pass the seal.

[Iceburgeruk]

The effects don't reverse. All the grail does is keep you alive forever if you stay behind the seal. What they do to heal an injury stays as such but the immortality is gone once you pass the seal.

Thats lame. Wasn`t it that the grail itself could not pass beyond the seal? I don`t think they extrapolated that the effects were limited as well.

Surely the whole reason plotwise for the place collapsing and the grail falling into the pit was that it can make you immortal wherever you go but now that the grail is lost forever only indy can benefit from it.

Otherwise that end scene seems a lil over the top in its efforts to destroy any hopes of refinding the grail when the grail is apparantly mostly useless to most people.

[Hunter Rider]

The Knight tells Indy that the grail and immortality only last while behind the seal. The point of the grail being lost showcased Elsa's greed

[Avangarde]

HR :up:

[Iceburgeruk]

True but you can`t tell me that Harrison Ford at his age is not gonna look at least a lil creaky as Indiana Jones. I`m also worried about just how much killing they can do against communist soldiers.

I mean fair play the thuggies were real and they were evil guys. So fair enough. And the Nazis were definitly bad so you aren`t that concerned when he shoots 3 in a row.

But as much as McCarthy would have you think otherwise, i just don`t think i will be really excited to see communsit soldiers get killed by indy. I mean thats like saying that just because buddhists or sikhs have a diffeent belief system that it would be cool to see indy shooting them. I personallu just don`t have neough of a beef with the oold soviets to see them killed with such ferocity as indy dispatched the nazis and thuggies in the first trilogy.

[Hunter Rider]

They won't be Russians he is simply killing, they will be bad guys, their nationality will be secondary.

[Iceburgeruk]

They won't be Russians he is simply killing, they will be bad guys, their nationality will be secondary.

Good. As long as spielburg and lucas remember you need to setup the reasons for their evilness. Being soviets and therby evil doesn`t fly as easy as nazis and evil. Hell with the nazis you didn`t even need telling that theyw ere gonna be evil they just needed to turn up and you knew they were real bad.

[Secret_Riddle]

Good. As long as spielburg and lucas remember you need to setup the reasons for their evilness. Being soviets and therby evil doesn`t fly as easy as nazis and evil. Hell with the nazis you didn`t even need telling that theyw ere gonna be evil they just needed to turn up and you knew they were real bad.

Umm stereotypical as evil soviets may be...if it worked for Bond, it'll work for Indy.

[Golgo-13]

Good. As long as spielburg and lucas remember you need to setup the reasons for their evilness. Being soviets and therby evil doesn`t fly as easy as nazis and evil. Hell with the nazis you didn`t even need telling that theyw ere gonna be evil they just needed to turn up and you knew they were real bad.

Well isn't the 50's when the film takes place, the cold war era? That should automatically constitute them as being evil.

[Iceburgeruk]

Well isn't the 50's when the film takes place, the cold war era? That should automatically constitute them as being evil.

Yeah but the cold war soviets were never evil. I mean think for a moment about the evil things the nazis did in ww2 and then try and come up with some equally evil things the 50s era soviets did. Truth is the soviets didn`t do much evil (only the purges were truly evil and those ended when hitler tried to invade).

Now that we aren`t in the cold war and aren`t being bombarded by propoganda it is difficult to make a case for the soviets being evil.

[Kevin Roegele]

Latest news, I've heard rumours that the legendary Indy theme tune will have lyrics this time...

In-di-ana
Jones is old
In-di-ana
Jones is an-old-man
In-di-ana
Jones is old
He's an old man
He can't run
He can't fight
But boy can he talk
Like all old gits do
Like they do

IN-DI-ANA!
JONES IS OLD
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS AN OLD MAN
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
BUT WE'LL STILL WATCH
WE'LL STILL PAY
IF IT SUCKS
JUST BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS

IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
ETC

[Iceburgeruk]

Latest news, I've heard rumours that the legendary Indy theme tune will have lyrics this time...

In-di-ana
Jones is old
In-di-ana
Jones is an-old-man
In-di-ana
Jones is old
He's an old man
He can't run
He can't fight
But boy can he talk
Like all old gits do
Like they do

IN-DI-ANA!
JONES IS OLD
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS AN OLD MAN
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
BUT WE'LL STILL WATCH
WE'LL STILL PAY
IF IT SUCKS
JUST BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS

IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
ETC

They they should use that theme. Perhaps with a bit about shia lebouf being an idiot. lol.

[Matt Murdock]

Who wants to place bets about how many times Ford is going to say "Give me back my family!"

[Matt Murdock]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tZnBdJumGwA

[xwolverine2]

Latest news, I've heard rumours that the legendary Indy theme tune will have lyrics this time...

In-di-ana
Jones is old
In-di-ana
Jones is an-old-man
In-di-ana
Jones is old
He's an old man
He can't run
He can't fight
But boy can he talk
Like all old gits do
Like they do

IN-DI-ANA!
JONES IS OLD
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS AN OLD MAN
IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
BUT WE'LL STILL WATCH
WE'LL STILL PAY
IF IT SUCKS
JUST BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS
BLAME LUCAS

IN-DI-ANA
JONES IS OLD
ETC

brilliant:dry: :whatever:

[aaron]

i hate lucas :/

[Mr.E.Nygma]

But Spielberg is great, so it creates a balance. I'm very hyped for this one, with every cast member also execpt Shia LaBoeuf, who can surprise me in this though. But after rewatching Temple of Doom, it got me set for summer 2008!

[Mr. Socko]

Lucas and Spielburg are idiots. They had the nigh perfect franchise and ruined it.

How you ask?

At the end of last crusade both indy and indy`s father drink from the holy grail. It heals the dad`s wounds and apparantly grants eternal life. The only apparant proviso is that you can`t remove the grail form the place they got it from.

The effects of the grail must extend beyond the interior of that building because otherwise indy`s dad would have died from the wounds immediatly he got out of range.

So where doe this leave us?

Indiana Jones should be Immortal!!! (Barring of course death through injury and murder, the immortality is obviously an extension of life. He would have an unending life expectantcy he would NOT be invulnerable. He could still die from getting shot its just if he doesn`t meet with nay fatal encounters he would live forever.)

And by casting Harrison Ford again they blow the immortality bit out of the water because he has aged. Now the only way we will see future indy films is with indy`s stupid kid running around temples.

It is laughable considering spielburg and lucas had set up the perfect bit in last crusade.

If indy had been left as an immortal they could have had a never ending james bond style franchise where everytime the actor decides to leave you recast. Because indy would be immortal and forever aged about 30-40-ish.

But instead we get geriatric ford and indiana jones junior junior. what a waste.

well at least thats what i think.


Ri....dic.......u........lous

First off you are completely ignoring the canon television show The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones which shows Indy as an old man in his 90s, bare proof that he DOES age.

Secondly as Hunter said, the templar Knight in The Last Crusade explained you're only immortal as long as you stay in the temple. It's the reason The Knight never, ever left himself.

[Stotch]

Ri....dic.......u........lous

First off you are completely ignoring the canon television show The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones which shows Indy as an old man in his 90s, bare proof that he DOES age.

Secondly as Hunter said, the templar Knight in The Last Crusade explained you're only immortal as long as you stay in the temple. It's the reason The Knight never, ever left himself.

Ah, thanks for clearin that up :woot: I was curious about that whole immortality, too. Except I also thought each movie was a stand-alone, thus this new movie doesn't really have anything to do with the Last Crusade.

But I also thought the Grail's effects still worked outside, but the immortality issue was the thing; you become immortal, yet you still age. You just don't die, which is why it showed the Knight being so old(I assumed he got there when he was young).

But your explanation makes a bit more sense.

[Iceburgeruk]

Ah, thanks for clearin that up :woot: I was curious about that whole immortality, too. Except I also thought each movie was a stand-alone, thus this new movie doesn't really have anything to do with the Last Crusade.

But I also thought the Grail's effects still worked outside, but the immortality issue was the thing; you become immortal, yet you still age. You just don't die, which is why it showed the Knight being so old(I assumed he got there when he was young).

But your explanation makes a bit more sense.

To me it just doesn`t make sense. Why have that the immortality doesn`t go beyond the seal and the grail? Surely the grail is a useless cup outside of the seal so why did the place have to fall down when elsa tried to take it? The grail is worthless beyond the seal so why collapse the place if someone tries to remove it?

[SuperJAK]

To me it just doesn`t make sense. Why have that the immortality doesn`t go beyond the seal and the grail? Surely the grail is a useless cup outside of the seal so why did the place have to fall down when elsa tried to take it? The grail is worthless beyond the seal so why collapse the place if someone tries to remove it?Because it is the cup that Jesus Christ himself drank out of. You don't just let people take it.

[RAD]

I don`t think they extrapolated that the effects were limited as well.LOL