Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[RAD]

The grail is worthless beyond the seal so why collapse the place if someone tries to remove it?http://secretunicornsforum.com/forum/images/smiles/kidsthesedays.jpg

[danoyse]

Thats lame. Wasn`t it that the grail itself could not pass beyond the seal? I don`t think they extrapolated that the effects were limited as well.

Surely the whole reason plotwise for the place collapsing and the grail falling into the pit was that it can make you immortal wherever you go but now that the grail is lost forever only indy can benefit from it.

Otherwise that end scene seems a lil over the top in its efforts to destroy any hopes of refinding the grail when the grail is apparantly mostly useless to most people.

Think of it this way: the only reason they needed to find the grail was to get to it before the Nazis did. Hitler wanted the grail because he believed it would give the power of eternal life and make him and his armies immortal.

Of course they find it, and learn that it will give eternal life, but they need to stay in the cave, as the knight explains: "But, beware: the Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal, for that is the boundry, and the price, of immortality."

In other words, the grail can't leave, and neither can you if you want to live forever. There's kind of a gray area regarding healing wounds, but since a person doesn't immediately die if they drink from the grail and leave the cave, I guess a person's gunshot wound wouldn't immediately re-open, either.

The cave began to collapse once Elsa walked past the seal, just as the knight said would happen. And even if she hadn't, I don't think Nazis would have given up and gone home and not try to take the thing by force if they had to...after all, look what happened when they opened the ark. :cwink:

[Spider-Vader]

We'll show you!

This is my most anticipated movie of the year, Indy can never come too late!
Exactly.
T...thats old indy?

Not anymore! Lucas cut all of them out except which had Harrison Ford as Indy again.

[BatJeff7786]

So......trailer with I Am Legend? Or Golden Compass?

[BatJeff7786]

Lucas and Spielburg are idiots. They had the nigh perfect franchise and ruined it.

How you ask?

At the end of last crusade both indy and indy`s father drink from the holy grail. It heals the dad`s wounds and apparantly grants eternal life. The only apparant proviso is that you can`t remove the grail form the place they got it from.

The effects of the grail must extend beyond the interior of that building because otherwise indy`s dad would have died from the wounds immediatly he got out of range.

So where doe this leave us?

Indiana Jones should be Immortal!!! (Barring of course death through injury and murder, the immortality is obviously an extension of life. He would have an unending life expectantcy he would NOT be invulnerable. He could still die from getting shot its just if he doesn`t meet with nay fatal encounters he would live forever.)

And by casting Harrison Ford again they blow the immortality bit out of the water because he has aged. Now the only way we will see future indy films is with indy`s stupid kid running around temples.

It is laughable considering spielburg and lucas had set up the perfect bit in last crusade.

If indy had been left as an immortal they could have had a never ending james bond style franchise where everytime the actor decides to leave you recast. Because indy would be immortal and forever aged about 30-40-ish.

But instead we get geriatric ford and indiana jones junior junior. what a waste.

well at least thats what i think.

FAIL

[Advanced Dark]

Uh I thought he would only be Immortal if he stayed in that chamber guarding the Grail?

[Jack Napier]

I don't expect much from this movie.

I couldn't help but notice your avatar is from "Spider-Man 3". Did that film meet your expectations? If they did, then my friend, they were very low. :woot:

[Advanced Dark]

Spidey 3 was fine. They had to wrap up all those storylines before the actors contracts were up and fans were demanding Venom while Raimi wanted Sandman. It wasn't perfect but it was fun enough. I'm just happy to see Spidey swinging on the big screen.

[Apollo]

so umm..

is the video game going to be for both PS3 and Xbox360?

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, it'll be for just about all systems. This was released last year when the game was scheduled for 07 but pushed to '08 to coincide with the new film. And there's a teaser trailer for it out on youtube.

http://www.theindyexperience.com/video_games/img/next_gen_indy_game_cover.jpg

I found it interesting that Indy in the video game is in his 30s or 40s like Ford was during the original trilogy as opposed to making Indy of the video game in his 50s like the newest movie. Guess it wouldn't be as fun to play as an older Indy, eh.

[Spider-Fan]

I couldn't help but notice your avatar is from "Spider-Man 3". Did that film meet your expectations? If they did, then my friend, they were very low. :woot:

SM3 ROCKED!!!

:spidey:

I still think this will end up sucking though. Like I have said before, this sequel is years too late.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

SM3 ROCKED!!!

:spidey:

I still think this will end up sucking though. Like I have said before, this sequel is years too late.

I hope you're kidding about SM3. It was up there...or should I say down there with the crappy likes of X3, Daredevil, and Elektra. Terrible filmmaking. Raimi should be ashamed.

Anyway, can't wait for the Indy game.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

My favourite post from you of all time. :D :up:

[SuperJAK]

The last couple of days have been great with new pictures :eek:

[Matt Murdock]

Those are really cool. :up:

[scifiwolf]

Huge friggin sizes:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/396/ij4ia6864rresizeas0.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/791/ij4ia5906rresizexe4.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2739/ij4ia5532rresizenj5.jpg

Courtesy of effin on The Raven

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Excellent, scifiwolf.

The pics look reminiscent of previous Indy movies, at least the bottom 2 do. The second one reminds me of Temple and the third one of Last Crusade, when young Indy is looking down in that hole at the beginning.

Glad to see Indy still has his revolver. Thank god the Spiel didn't wuss out on that decision.

[Advanced Dark]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

Nice.

[Carmine Falcone]

I think Indy looks more badass than ever. And yes HR, It's because of the grizzle.

[Advanced Dark]

It's too bad they didn't take advantage of this time and film 2 movies back to back.

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks for the awesome High res Sciwolf. :up:

I think Indy looks more badass than ever. And yes HR, It's because of the grizzle.

Hahaha! you read my thoughts before i think them. :woot:

[Rezzo]

Huge friggin sizes:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/396/ij4ia6864rresizeas0.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/791/ij4ia5906rresizexe4.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2739/ij4ia5532rresizenj5.jpg

Courtesy of effin on The Raven

Amazing. :wow::wow::wow:

[Hunter Rider]

http://i19.tinypic.com/81q95zt.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/71p225d.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/82jjgad.jpg

[BenReilly]

Awesome pics. Ford looks great. :up:

It's great to have Indy back.

[danoyse]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

YEAH!!! :woot: :up:

(I don't have any other comment to add...this was the only way I could keep from yelling that out loud at work.) :oldrazz:

[Kent]

Awesome new pics. Now I just need a trailer.

[Watson]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

:wow:

I don't know if my brain can handle all these new pics recently...

In the first pic, it looks like Indy is approaching Mutt on his motorcycle, mais non?

[black_dust]

Last picture he looks really really old :( it saddens me :(

Still awesome tho

[Mr. Socko]

*DIES OF HEART ATTACK*

He looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Catman]

These new pics are AWESOME! Can't wait till the movie is released.

[Matt]

Last picture he looks really really old :( it saddens me :(

Still awesome tho

Harrison Ford could be in a nursing home in a wheel chair, with no teeth and ranting about how the nurses steal from him and he would still be bad ass.

[Matt Murdock]

I'm in high school, with an idiot for an economics teacher and right now we're watching "Firewall" for God knows what reason.

That said, Ford is a badass. To the enth degree.

[Secret_Riddle]

Great pics..cant wait for a trailer.

[Mr. Socko]

I'm in high school, with an idiot for an economics teacher and right now we're watching "Firewall" for God knows what reason.

That said, Ford is a badass. To the enth degree.

I didn't like Firewall.

This is Ford's return.

[Matt Murdock]

Oh I don't like the film much either, doesn't mean he can't kick ass! He killed someone with a blender!

[Secret_Riddle]

I like how it looks as if this movie could be from 92 you know? like it doesnt look like they waited almost 20 years to make this movie...

[Matt Murdock]

It's got that "Old Indy Smell." :up:

[Soapy]

It's got that "Old Indy Smell." :up:

I could make a crass fart joke here, but I shall restrain myself.

Anyway, the new pics look great! :yay:

[블라스]

Holy....my head can't handle the pictures...
Oh mama...

[Spider-Fan]

I hope you're kidding about SM3. It was up there...or should I say down there with the crappy likes of X3, Daredevil, and Elektra. Terrible filmmaking. Raimi should be ashamed.

Anyway, can't wait for the Indy game.

I am not kidding. Loved the movie. That is my opinion on it, and I am not ashamed of SM3 at all :spidey:

But, this is an Indy thread, not let's analyze Spider-Fan's movie taste so we can disregard his comments about thinking Indy 4 will suck thread.

[Matt]

Agreed. Stay on topic Solidsnake.

[블라스]

Damn, I am so happy.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Yeah, the last pic you can see his eyes, and he really does look like an old man. But in the other pics, he doesn't look that old at all.

Can't wait for the trailer just to hear the Raider's March again.

Agreed. Stay on topic Solidsnake.

LOL, lots of OT on this thread but you pick me out. Wonder why.

[Matt]

Yeah, the last pic you can see his eyes, and he really does look like an old man. But in the other pics, he doesn't look that old at all.

Can't wait for the trailer just to hear the Raider's March again.



LOL, lots of OT on this thread but you pick me out. Wonder why.

Because I've been a moderator for two days and yours was the first off topic post I saw on this thread. Now stay on topic.

[BatJeff7786]

It's too bad they didn't take advantage of this time and film 2 movies back to back.

That generally never goes over well in Hollywood. The only time it ever worked to perfection was Lord of the Rings.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Wonder when we'll start seeing the promotions. Hope we can get some new action figures out of this. Hopefully a classics line that includes younger Indy.

Now stay on topic.

Uh, I am. Every post of mine contains discussions about Indy. Every. One.

[Matt]

Again, if you want to discuss Spider-Man 3, do so in private messages. At any rate, check your PMs and we will continue this discussion there as to not further drive this thread off topic.

[Backdrifter]

Shia really does look like Ford's son.

[Hunter Rider]

Untagged.

http://i5.tinypic.com/6ut39dh.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/6jksnd3.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/8be1q8k.jpg

[Matt Murdock]

Indy's just...

fantastic.

[bunk]

God.... he looks so much better than I though he would. Freaking amazing.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

God.... he looks so much better than I though he would. Freaking amazing.

I know this is old, but it is relevant.

http://uk.hollywood.com/website/gossip.phtml?gid=2662

[bunk]

I know this is old, but it is relevant.

http://uk.hollywood.com/website/gossip.phtml?gid=2662

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. What a freak, I'm 25 and I doubt I could handle that kind of regiment. Hearing 'CG whip' made me cringe lol.


I made this for myself but I figured someone else might be interested.

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[블라스]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. What a freak, I'm 25 and I doubt I could handle that kind of regiment. Hearing 'CG whip' made me cringe lol.


I made this for myself but I figured someone else might be interested.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5615/indynewwallqk5.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indynewwallqk5.jpg)



Hey, that looks great!
Can I make a small suggestion?
How about instead of just pasting the picture, blurring the edges a bit?
That way it doesn't look like just a square picture pasted in?

[Mr. Socko]

Shia really does look like Ford's son.


Yes, he looks great!

*saves untagged photos*


And very nice wallpaper bunk.

[cryptic name]

Lucas and Spielburg are idiots. They had the nigh perfect franchise and ruined it.

How you ask?

At the end of last crusade both indy and indy`s father drink from the holy grail. It heals the dad`s wounds and apparantly grants eternal life. The only apparant proviso is that you can`t remove the grail form the place they got it from.

The effects of the grail must extend beyond the interior of that building because otherwise indy`s dad would have died from the wounds immediatly he got out of range.

So where doe this leave us?

Indiana Jones should be Immortal!!! (Barring of course death through injury and murder, the immortality is obviously an extension of life. He would have an unending life expectantcy he would NOT be invulnerable. He could still die from getting shot its just if he doesn`t meet with nay fatal encounters he would live forever.)

And by casting Harrison Ford again they blow the immortality bit out of the water because he has aged. Now the only way we will see future indy films is with indy`s stupid kid running around temples.

It is laughable considering spielburg and lucas had set up the perfect bit in last crusade.

If indy had been left as an immortal they could have had a never ending james bond style franchise where everytime the actor decides to leave you recast. Because indy would be immortal and forever aged about 30-40-ish.

But instead we get geriatric ford and indiana jones junior junior. what a waste.

well at least thats what i think.

without Ford there is no Indy.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. What a freak, I'm 25 and I doubt I could handle that kind of regiment. Hearing 'CG whip' made me cringe lol.


I made this for myself but I figured someone else might be interested.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5615/indynewwallqk5.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indynewwallqk5.jpg)

http://forums.superherohype.com/%5BURL=http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indynewwallqk5.jpg%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5615/indynewwallqk5.th.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D

Nice! That pic was my choice for a poster idea as well. Its different from what you have though.

[Octoberist]

Harrison still looks very good in that outfit.

Which brings me to this: I think the backtalkers at 'aint it cool news' are probably the worst human beings on the planet. It's a breeding ground for lame people. For God's sakes, they're complaining about Indy's clothes. His clothes? What do you want him to wear? It's freakin' ICONIC!

[Lord Valumart]

I know this is old, but it is relevant.

http://uk.hollywood.com/website/gossip.phtml?gid=2662

lol a CGI whip would be horrible...

[Avangarde]

Awesome new Indy pics :up:

[P.B.&Chocolate]

Great new pictures! Indy looks as heroic as ever .Thanks for the hi -rez versions.

[FaT_tONle]

Flash lights???? Bring back the tourch.... all I can say is they better bring in a realistic stunt double without making it too obvious... I am not sold until I see him in action.

[terry78]

lol a CGI whip would be horrible...

I don't even know how a CGI whip would work. He's not Simon Belmont with a 11 foot chain morning star mace type thing.

[terry78]

Flash lights???? Bring back the tourch.... all I can say is they better bring in a realistic stunt double without making it too obvious... I am not sold until I see him in action.

Why wouldn't they have flash lights? It's the 50's, and he's never been about going the harder route if he doesn't have to. Jones has always been thrust into **** that he doesn't want to be, but gets out one way or another.

[Mr. Socko]

Harrison still looks very good in that outfit.

Which brings me to this: I think the backtalkers at 'aint it cool news' are probably the worst human beings on the planet. It's a breeding ground for lame people. For God's sakes, they're complaining about Indy's clothes. His clothes? What do you want him to wear? It's freakin' ICONIC!

I think his clothes look great, but I will say, his pants seem a bit too high in the picture with the gun. Indy still dresses the same after all of these years, although the strap on the handbag is black as opposed to being brown like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. But I'm not complaining. Who else do you know would still dress that way after 20 years:o

[Lord Valumart]

I don't even know how a CGI whip would work.

thats cause it wouldn't

[Octoberist]

I think his clothes look great, but I will say, his pants seem a bit too high in the picture with the gun. Indy still dresses the same after all of these years, although the strap on the handbag is black as opposed to being brown like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. But I'm not complaining. Who else do you know would still dress that way after 20 years:o

The pants are kinda high in the second pic..but it's the 50s, and that was common. Kinda serious, kinda joking about that :p

[bunk]

Is it really even supposed to be the exact same outfit he wore all those years ago? Other than the hat and jacket, I could see the rest being easily replaced, and often replaced. I could see him replacing the strap on the bag from time to time also.

[Spider-Fan]

I figured he'd look like that in the movie.

I am not concerned with pics and such. What I want to see is the trailer and story elements before I can get remotely enthusiastic about this project.

[Mr. Socko]

Is it really even supposed to be the exact same outfit he wore all those years ago? Other than the hat and jacket, I could see the rest being easily replaced, and often replaced. I could see him replacing the strap on the bag from time to time also.


Yeah, I was just being nitpicky, not serious:oldrazz:


Indy got his fedora when he was 16 years old and kept it until he was at least 93:o

[Golgo-13]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg

Awesome. Awesome .Awesome!

The man with the hat is back!

[Mr. Socko]

Evolution of Indy and his fedora:


http://i11.tinypic.com/7w5ffr7.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/822vhcj.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/6sgtmkl.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/6pjtk6t.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/8bo0yvp.jpg

[Golgo-13]

Evolution of Indy and his fedora:


http://i11.tinypic.com/7w5ffr7.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/822vhcj.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/6sgtmkl.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/6pjtk6t.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/8bo0yvp.jpg


Nice.

I've always wondered: Does Indy wear the very same Fedora he was given as a kid in The Last Crusade? Or does he just keep buying new ones, that just look like the original one, as time goes on....?

[GhostPoet]

Wow...in that first pic when he's walking to the bike he barely looks aged.
All the pic though are amazing...he looks fantastic. I thought he'd look really old...but man, fantastic looking!!!

I feel dizzy...I think i'm geeking out.

[Matt Murdock]

Where's the picture of him with the Sax from?

[DocHoliday]

Where's the picture of him with the Sax from?

Young Indy Episode entitled "Mystery of the Blues". A 50's Indy narrates the story inside a cabin while snowed in.

[Matt Murdock]

That's really harrison ford, too.

How nice of him to do the episode. :p

[DocHoliday]

That's really harrison ford, too.

How nice of him to do the episode. :p

Yeah he was shooting The Fugitive at the time they shot it, hence the beard. I think they thought it'd boost the ratings but sadly it did not.

[bunk]

Evolution of Indy and his fedora:




http://i1.tinypic.com/6sgtmkl.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/8bo0yvp.jpg


Where are these two from?

Edit: Ok, the beard one is from Young Indy. Other one too?

[DocHoliday]

Where are these two from?

Young Indy episodes.

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, the old man is George Hall who played Indy in the television show. The show would sometimes start with Old Indy telling a story to proceed the show.

Indy is one of few men who can still pull off the old man beard look and still come off as awesome.

[Pablo Parker]

was the eye patch ever explained in the show...?

[Golgo-13]

I ask again:

Does Indy wear the very same Fedora he was given as a kid in The Last Crusade? Or does he just keep buying new ones, that just look like the original one, as time goes on....?

[aaron]

his pants are too loose :/

[scifiwolf]

Golgo13, I don't know about the fedora. I always thought it was the same one. If you really wanna know, go hit up the Club Obi-Wan forums and ask there. That's the best place to find any info on any piece of gear or prop.

[Mr. Socko]

It's never been said by Ford, Lucas, or Spielberg if he wears the same fedora or buys new ones. The guys at Club Obi-Wan will tell you that the fedora in Raiders is not the same as in Temple of Doom. The width of the brim is different, actually larger in Temple. So no, in reality it is not the same fedora. But I wouldn't imagine they would use the exact same hat for filming each movie as well as the television show either. But George Lucas has set up a running gag that Indy will do pretty much anything to keep the hat. Like how he almost has his arm crushed in Temple just to grab his fedora.

[Stotch]

This is probably asked too much, but, any news on the teaser/trailer?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

kcwEIs5_z7E

Pretty stupidly written, but it is Indy.

[That'ssuper!]

I wish I had found this thread sooner.

[britrogue]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg





I could cry! He looks wonderful! :heart:

[Golgo-13]

It's never been said by Ford, Lucas, or Spielberg if he wears the same fedora or buys new ones. The guys at Club Obi-Wan will tell you that the fedora in Raiders is not the same as in Temple of Doom. The width of the brim is different, actually larger in Temple. So no, in reality it is not the same fedora. But I wouldn't imagine they would use the exact same hat for filming each movie as well as the television show either. But George Lucas has set up a running gag that Indy will do pretty much anything to keep the hat. Like how he almost has his arm crushed in Temple just to grab his fedora.

Guys, i didn't really mean the fedora as a prop in real life being the same one, i meant within the Indy universe itself. When the guy placed the hat on his head at the beginning of TLC, it appears that Indy was born, so to speak, and that 'particula'r hat had sentimental value.....

[black_dust]

Guys, i didn't really mean the fedora as a prop in real life being the same one, i meant within the Indy universe itself. When the guy placed the hat on his head at the beginning of TLC, it appears that Indy was born, so to speak, and that 'particula'r hat had sentimental value.....

i knew wa u ment :p

Probs the same one he seems very attached to it and always gets it back when lost

[scifiwolf]

I knew what you meant, too, Golgo. I think everybody knows full well that the prop changes.

[Golgo-13]

^O.K :yay:

I hope we get the same old 'punch' sound effect we got from the last 3 movies. I love the sound effect that was used every time someone got hit, it was so exaggerated! :up:

[scifiwolf]

You know, I've heard a lot of people mention the punch sound. I'd love to hear it too. It gives such pulp, serial feel to the movies.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Harrison looks ace in that picture

[mad-sci]

Hope this is new.


According to JoBlo, this is the new Indy teaser poster:-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/madsci/indieposter.jpg


Says it all, doesn't it?

[Matt Murdock]

It's not new. It's hanging up in my bedroom

[GhostPoet]

^O.K :yay:

I hope we get the same old 'punch' sound effect we got from the last 3 movies. I love the sound effect that was used every time someone got hit, it was so exaggerated! :up:

I'd be extremely dissapointed if they didn't. :/

[BritishChap007]

Originally Posted by Iceburgeruk http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13328189#post13328189)
Lucas and Spielburg are idiots. They had the nigh perfect franchise and ruined it.

How you ask?

At the end of last crusade both indy and indy`s father drink from the holy grail. It heals the dad`s wounds and apparantly grants eternal life. The only apparant proviso is that you can`t remove the grail form the place they got it from.

The effects of the grail must extend beyond the interior of that building because otherwise indy`s dad would have died from the wounds immediatly he got out of range.

So where doe this leave us?

Indiana Jones should be Immortal!!! (Barring of course death through injury and murder, the immortality is obviously an extension of life. He would have an unending life expectantcy he would NOT be invulnerable. He could still die from getting shot its just if he doesn`t meet with nay fatal encounters he would live forever.)

And by casting Harrison Ford again they blow the immortality bit out of the water because he has aged. Now the only way we will see future indy films is with indy`s stupid kid running around temples.

It is laughable considering spielburg and lucas had set up the perfect bit in last crusade.

If indy had been left as an immortal they could have had a never ending james bond style franchise where everytime the actor decides to leave you recast. Because indy would be immortal and forever aged about 30-40-ish.

But instead we get geriatric ford and indiana jones junior junior. what a waste.

well at least thats what i think.


That argument is completly illogical.

What evidence points to the fact that healed wounds would have to be re-opened after crossing the seal simply because the imortality does not last past the seal?

Henry Jones Snr. had yet to die of the wound. The pouring of the water heals the wound and restores his health. In the realm of the movie, the wound now no longer exists. He's cured, so to speek. Why then, would the wound re-open? Again, it is 100% gone. Immortality does not last past the seal, but the wound is irrelevant to the seal.

It would be almost like this: Say in your family you can drink Pepsi in the kitchen, but once you go into the family room, you are not allowed to have it anymore. You drink some Pepsi and go into the family room. But, when you enter the family room, your body still contains the liquid you have already consumed. Does this mean that you are allowed to have the Pepsi in the family room? No, that doesn't make sense. It just means that you have already drank some Pepsi and that isn't going to change!

You are not allowed to take the grail across the seal, and the powers of immortality follow suite. But, before they crossed it, they heal the wound. When they leave, and the wound is still 100% healed, does this mean that the grails powers extend past the seal? No, that doesn't make sense. It just means that the wound has already been healed and that isn't going to change regardless.

Last but not least, that would be a terrible idea to have Indy young in all the films due to immortality. James Bond isn't immortal. James Bond lives in an impossible timeline where he is always young. No, the audience doesn't care. He is a fictional character. But, if you gave Indy a reason for always being young in every movie (the grail), regardless of the decade, suddenly it is rediculous because of the fictional explination.

Having Harrison Ford in the film is the only answer. And making it take place in the 50's only makes sense!

[Matt Murdock]

Are the italics supposed to add something to your argument?

[BritishChap007]

Are the italics supposed to add something to your argument?

Nah, that was an accident. But thanks for pointing it out buddy. And, im assuming you don't agree with me?

[Matt Murdock]

Your argument doesn't need any strengthening.

[BritishChap007]

Your argument doesn't need any strengthening.

Thanks. one of the most annoying things about discussing Indiana Jones is the old "he's immortal" thing that pops up in various forms all the time.

[Matt Murdock]

The explanation I came up with was that the cup provided eternal life... doesn't mean the eternal life had to come in a single gulp. The knight had been there for centuries, probably drinking from the cup over and over again.

[BritishChap007]

The explanation I came up with was that the cup provided eternal life... doesn't mean the eternal life had to come in a single gulp. The knight had been there for centuries, probably drinking from the cup over and over again.

This is plausible. Obviously, the Knight has the means to drink from the cup whenever he chooses. Indy only had a glass full. He used most of it on his fathers wound. In total, Indy and his dad only drank from the cup one time a piece.

Maybe it gave some longevity to them, but immortals? Definitely not.

[Mr. Socko]

The explanation I came up with was that the cup provided eternal life... doesn't mean the eternal life had to come in a single gulp. The knight had been there for centuries, probably drinking from the cup over and over again.


That's a good theory indeed, had not thought of it :up:

[Matt Murdock]

That's a good theory indeed, had not thought of it :up:

That's why they call me the smart one. :)

[BritishChap007]

Altough it's ultimatley irrelevant. The Knight specifically says that it is the cost of immortality not to be able to pass the seal. Whether it be because the immortalit remain immortal, thus losing the immortality b to remain immortal, thus losing the immortality by crossing the seal, the point reamains the same. No immortality.

[scifiwolf]

BritishChap007 is right - this discussion is moot. In fact, if there were any point in bringing up the grail, how about doing it in an Indy trilogy thread?

[Hunter Rider]

Any news on the trailer ?

[scifiwolf]

None that I know of. I suspect we'll get it within the next three weeks. I'm betting on it being with NT2. We'd have known by now to expect it with Golden Compass next week, and I Am Legend seems not ideal to premier a family adventure film like Indy. The other thing is NT2 is about six months to the day before Indy's release. It's perfect.

[The Chris]

I watched The Last Crusade a few hours ago. These movies are just so damn great man, it's so great to have another one coming out that I'm now able to go to the theatre to. And Harrison looks great!

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Altough it's ultimatley irrelevant. The Knight specifically says that it is the cost of immortality not to be able to pass the seal. Whether it be because the immortalit remain immortal, thus losing the immortality b to remain immortal, thus losing the immortality by crossing the seal, the point reamains the same. No immortality.

I figure that becoming immortal has a price, and that is that it becomes up to whomever drinks from the grail to therefore guard the grail for the rest of their existence, which is forever or until the next Indy comes along to try and take it or what not.

[Morg]

“To celebrate Close Encounters of the Third Kind's 30th anniversary, Spielberg has gone into the storage warehouse and dusted off those rubber Extraterrestrial dummies for a cameo appearance in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. You are probably wishing that I made that up. But, no, I am not.
The one thing everybody knows about the new Indiana Jones adventure is that it deals with aliens. Of some kind. There is a really cool article over at MTV that gives you all the information you'd ever want to know about the emergence of the Crystal Skull in our culture. How they came to be, what they are, and what many believe they are used for. These artificial artifacts make for the perfect Indiana Jones treasure. Read the article and it will all make sense to you. It's cool.

One of the things that Spielberg has gone on record as saying is that most of the special effects in the film are practical. Now that appears to be true. The aliens in the film are puppets. There are three of them, seated on thrones in The Kingdom (an Aztec structure that turns out to be a spaceship). And, guess what? They bare a striking resemblance to the little naked bald headed midgets that were seen running around at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. They are indeed supposed to be the ascendants of the Extraterrestrials seen in that film. They are related. Though the film doesn't come right out and say that. A lot of kids haven't even seen Close Encounters. They aren't going to get the joke.

This makes sense. Editor Michael Kahn and Steve Spielberg first worked together on Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Kahn has been with Spielberg ever since, and is also editing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Plus, this isn't the first time that there have been crossovers in the Spielberg-Lucas Universe. Star Wars figures are prominently featured in E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. E.T. and his army of alien friends then showed up in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. "THX-1138" shows up on the wing of a plane in Raiders Of The Lost Ark. In Indiana Jones & The Temple Of Doom, the cafe at the beginning of the film bares Obi-Wan Kenobi's name. This type of self-referential "humor" is expected at this point.

The puppets have been updated slightly, and I have no idea if they will be modified digitally. But next summer, I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be saying, "Oh, ****...It's the aliens from Close Encounters!" When they see the finished project.”

If that's true it's going be a bit silly

[bunk]

If that's true it's going be a bit silly

I kinda wish I hadn't read that. I need to find that Haitian guy from 'Heroes'...

[GoldGoblin]

Did Frank Darabont's script have aliens in it?

[DocHoliday]

Did Frank Darabont's script have aliens in it?

Yes.

[Watson]

If that's true it's going be a bit silly

Where was that posted? Or is it up thread and I just missed it? :csad:


Aliens...hrmm if handled well maybe could work. I wouldn't want to see any ET like interaction, but it is in keeping with the fifties mythos they seem to be going with for this film.

[danoyse]

This is plausible. Obviously, the Knight has the means to drink from the cup whenever he chooses. Indy only had a glass full. He used most of it on his fathers wound. In total, Indy and his dad only drank from the cup one time a piece.

Maybe it gave some longevity to them, but immortals? Definitely not.

And Indy didn't even drink from the cup for eternal life, he only drank from it to make sure it was the right one before taking it to save his father.

[Agentsands77]

Aliens...hrmm if handled well maybe could work. I wouldn't want to see any ET like interaction, but it is in keeping with the fifties mythos they seem to be going with for this film.
My informant has expressly confirmed that INDY IV deals with crystal skulls of extraterrestrial origin, and that the pyramid of the finale is indeed a space ship (they've been correct on countless other details, so I don't see why they'd be wrong on this).

However, I was given the impression that we never actually met live aliens. I suppose that this report, if true, means that these aliens will be deceased aliens inside the pyramid.

And yeah, it definitely fits with the 1950s motif.

[danoyse]

If that's true it's going be a bit silly

Depends. I just googled "crystal skull" and found some interesting stuff that sounds in line with an Indy movie:

http://www.crystalinks.com/crystalskulls.html

People who believe in the psychic power of crystal skulls say that the skulls are a center of radiant psychic energy and have the power to increase happiness and improve people's lives just by being held, handled and spoken with; others have suggested that crystal skulls can be used like crystal balls, to aid divination.

The healing and supernatural powers of crystal skulls have never been scientifically established. The scientific community at large has found no evidence of any unusual phenomena associated with the skulls nor any reason for further investigation.

There are legends that speak of indigenous peoples who have ancient crystal skulls, which contain hidden information, that they keep secretly hidden from the rest of the world.

The article also mentions that crystal skulls are also often associated with extraterrestrials, and also lists some famous (?!) crystal skulls, including one that appears to articulate when held a certain position in the light. :wow:

[Watson]

My informant has expressly confirmed that INDY IV deals with crystal skulls of extraterrestrial origin, and that the pyramid of the finale is indeed a space ship (they've been correct on countless other details, so I don't see why they'd be wrong on this).

However, I was given the impression that we never actually met live aliens. I suppose that this report, if true, means that these aliens will be deceased aliens inside the pyramid.

And yeah, it definitely fits with the 1950s motif.

Ah ok. Has the potential to be cool I think.

[Mr. Socko]

If you all are talking about aliens, I have to completely disagree. I don't want to see them in an Indiana Jones movie in any form.

Please, let Lucas and Spielberg keep the sci-fi aliens in Star Wars, Close Encounters, ET, and War of the Worlds(all good movies btw). Just don't bring down Indy Jones with such mess.

[GoldGoblin]

If you all are talking about aliens, I have to completely disagree. I don't want to see them in an Indiana Jones movie in any form.

Please, let Lucas and Spielberg keep the sci-fi aliens in Star Wars, Close Encounters, ET, and War of the Worlds(all good movies btw). Just don't bring down Indy Jones with such mess.

^
I feel the same way,aliens in a Indy movie just doesn't seem right.

[Watson]

I don't think it seems that out of line. Indy movies deal with extraordinary myths coming to life. Aliens and the crystal skull are both myths that done rights could fit in to Indy's world. Plus it fits with the overall themes that were present in the fifties: Commies, the space race, Roswell, etc.

[Hunter Rider]

I don't think it seems that out of line. Indy movies deal with extraordinary myths coming to life. Aliens and the crystal skull are both myths that done rights could fit in to Indy's world. Plus it fits with the overall themes that were present in the fifties: Commies, the space race, Roswell, etc.

Agreed Miss Watson. :up:

[Pablo Parker]

the Alien plotline could work pretty well if done right (you know, if the don´t show up at the end and Indy has to fist fight with them or something like that...).
Actually i just rememberd that in the Fate of Atlantis videogame, the idea of aliens being the creators of Atlantis was thrown a couple of times during the story...

[Agentsands77]

If you all are talking about aliens, I have to completely disagree. I don't want to see them in an Indiana Jones movie in any form.

Please, let Lucas and Spielberg keep the sci-fi aliens in Star Wars, Close Encounters, ET, and War of the Worlds(all good movies btw). Just don't bring down Indy Jones with such mess.
Well, they're part of the story for INDY IV, so you just have to deal with it.

I don't think it seems that out of line. Indy movies deal with extraordinary myths coming to life. Aliens and the crystal skull are both myths that done rights could fit in to Indy's world. Plus it fits with the overall themes that were present in the fifties: Commies, the space race, Roswell, etc.
I entirely agree. It's not so much that aliens are there, it's how they're handled. I think that it's entirely possible to utilize them well.

Actually i just rememberd that in the Fate of Atlantis videogame, the idea of aliens being the creators of Atlantis was thrown a couple of times during the story...
Yup. That's true.

And in INDIANA JONES AND THE INFERNAL MACHINE, that whole ending had Indy taken into that weird dimension with that alien-like creature. Very, very sci-fi in concept.

[BritishChap007]

I think that Spielberg and George Lucas know what fits in the movie. It may sound odd to us, but whatever they do, Im sure it will be done right if it happens. They were the one to make the last three, not the fans!

[BatJeff7786]

Aliens are no more rediculous then a man pulling out people's hears while they are still alive, an immortal man living in a cave, or supernatural beings living in a golden box.

[Mr. Socko]

Well, they're part of the story for INDY IV, so you just have to deal with it.


I'll believe that when I see it.

Aliens are no more rediculous then a man pulling out people's hears while they are still alive, an immortal man living in a cave, or supernatural beings living in a golden box.

That all fits under fantasy. Indy Jones ain't ever been about flying spaceships and Sci-Fi.


Next they will make a Jurassic Park IV where the Dinos use guns and chase people on motorcycles...:rolleyes:

[Watson]

^Sci-fi and fantasy have elements that are easily interchangeable, and it seems that is what they are doing here.

And like Pablo said, as long as Indy isn't fighting them a la Predator deathmatch, it could be kept in the theme of the series.

[Agentsands77]

I'll believe that when I see it.
Suit yourself. I stand by my source very confidently (especially since he's gotten so much right that has slowly been confirmed through other channels). It's not like I'm the only source of information to report as much.

Aliens and Indiana Jones have been tied together with INDY IV much earlier than this final draft. There was the Jeb Stuart draft, which featured aliens, and the Frank Darabont draft, which also featured aliens. Now, from numerous distinct reports, we've been told that KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, which shares a lot of similarity with elements from both of these drafts, will also feature aliens. Seems like there's some continuity there.

Holding out hope that there won't be aliens seems pointless. We have plenty of indication for aliens. We don't have seemingly valid reports to the contrary.

^Sci-fi and fantasy have elements that are easily interchangeable, and it seems that is what they are doing here.
Exactly. The lines between sci-fi and fantasy are very blurry.

[roach]

when is the trailer supposed to drop???

[Catman]

when is the trailer supposed to drop???

Thats what I wanna know! :cmad:

[Mr. Socko]

Suit yourself. I stand by my source very confidently (especially since he's gotten so much right that has slowly been confirmed through other channels). It's not like I'm the only source of information to report as much.

Aliens and Indiana Jones have been tied together with INDY IV much earlier than this final draft. There was the Jeb Stuart draft, which featured aliens, and the Frank Darabont draft, which also featured aliens. Now, from numerous distinct reports, we've been told that KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, which shares a lot of similarity with elements from both of these drafts, will also feature aliens. Seems like there's some continuity there.

Holding out hope that there won't be aliens seems pointless. We have plenty of indication for aliens. We don't have seemingly valid reports to the contrary.


Exactly. The lines between sci-fi and fantasy are very blurry.

Was Aliens in ET not enough? Was Aliens in Star Wars not enough? War of the Worlds..............Close Encounters............and the other billion alien movies they've done.

I go an idea, why doesn't Spielberg just allow Uncle Bullfrog to insert some aliens in Jurassic Park as well and re-release it in theaters! American Graffiti too! Berg and Lucas can put Aliens in all of their newest films and all of the old ones too thanks to the powers of ILM. Let's just re-edit Temple of Doom and remove Mola Ram and digitally replace him with Jar Jar Binks. That way it can be a nice little easter egg!

Yay, and why just stop there? What's wrong with Indy fighting Aliens, they can even kidnap him then have MUTT JONES(stupidest name ever created FYI) fly across the moon in his motorcycle with a little brown alien made of chicken wire.

Another Spielberg movie with Aliens! Who'd a thunk it, I mean I sure as hell see the originality:dry::dry::dry:

[Mr. Socko]

when is the trailer supposed to drop???


When Uncle George chokes on a pork sandwich.:dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry:

[roach]

you have a lot of anger issues

[Agentsands77]

Was Aliens in ET not enough? Was Aliens in Star Wars not enough? War of the Worlds..............Close Encounters............and the other billion alien movies they've done.

I go an idea, why doesn't Spielberg just allow Uncle Bullfrog to insert some aliens in Jurassic Park as well and re-release it in theaters! American Graffiti too! Berg and Lucas can put Aliens in all of their newest films and all of the old ones too thanks to the powers of ILM. Let's just re-edit Temple of Doom and remove Mola Ram and digitally replace him with Jar Jar Binks. That way it can be a nice little easter egg!

Yay, and why just stop there? What's wrong with Indy fighting Aliens, they can even kidnap him then have MUTT JONES(stupidest name ever created FYI) fly across the moon in his motorcycle with a little brown alien made of chicken wire.

Another Spielberg movie with Aliens! Who'd a thunk it, I mean I sure as hell see the originality:dry::dry::dry:
Eesh. Quite a rant you got there.

By the way, Shia LeBeouf's character's name isn't actually "Mutt." That's just his "greaser" name. His real name is something else.

[Spider-Vader]

New pics!
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg
That picture sums up what we'll be getting on May 22, 2008. The best movie of 2008!
I am not kidding. Loved the movie. That is my opinion on it, and I am not ashamed of SM3 at all :spidey:

But, this is an Indy thread, not let's analyze Spider-Fan's movie taste so we can disregard his comments about thinking Indy 4 will suck thread.
I loved Spidey 3 too.

I'm not mad about aliens as long as they not very prominent, like they're at the end.

[cky]

I'm curious on what the plot of the movie is?

I don't want to go through all 136 pages to find the plot. Haha.

[Spider-Vader]

Lucasfilm & Paramount are all silent on the plot.

Rumors have aliens & the Ark of the Covenent besides the Skulls.

[DocHoliday]

you have a lot of anger issues

Agreed.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=39869

The first trailer for Steven Spielberg's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665) is now planned for a debut in February. While we don't know for sure with which movie (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=39869#) it will show, Paramount's biggest film that month is The Spiderwick Chronicles (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=13847), so keep your eye on that one. Of course, it's possible Paramount will decide to debut footage earlier during the Super Bowl, but we're not sure.

:cmad: :csad:

[Matt Murdock]

NO!
Those bastards!

[xwolverine2]

ugggghh sooooooooooooooooooo faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

[BatJeff7786]

Was Aliens in ET not enough? Was Aliens in Star Wars not enough? War of the Worlds..............Close Encounters............and the other billion alien movies they've done.

I go an idea, why doesn't Spielberg just allow Uncle Bullfrog to insert some aliens in Jurassic Park as well and re-release it in theaters! American Graffiti too! Berg and Lucas can put Aliens in all of their newest films and all of the old ones too thanks to the powers of ILM. Let's just re-edit Temple of Doom and remove Mola Ram and digitally replace him with Jar Jar Binks. That way it can be a nice little easter egg!

Yay, and why just stop there? What's wrong with Indy fighting Aliens, they can even kidnap him then have MUTT JONES(stupidest name ever created FYI) fly across the moon in his motorcycle with a little brown alien made of chicken wire.

Another Spielberg movie with Aliens! Who'd a thunk it, I mean I sure as hell see the originality:dry::dry::dry:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/John_Edward_awarded_on_South_Park.jpg
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE RECIEVED THIS YEAR'S AWARD FOR BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE.

[Matt Murdock]

:dry:

[BatJeff7786]

What? Too soon?

[Mr. Socko]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/John_Edward_awarded_on_South_Park.jpg
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE RECIEVED THIS YEAR'S AWARD FOR BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE.


I wear my badge proudly.

[BatJeff7786]

I wear my badge proudly.

Well thanks for being a good sport. :woot:

[black_dust]

Eesh. Quite a rant you got there.

By the way, Shia LeBeouf's character's name isn't actually "Mutt." That's just his "greaser" name. His real name is something else.

Maybe he named him self after his dog ;)

[BritishChap007]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=39869



:cmad: :csad:

Hopefully that is a full trailer and we will get a teaser before then!

[aaron]

soo gonna be at superbowl

and whats this about aliens being unrealistic, even scientists have said theres more chance that there are extraterrestrials then then isnt

[DocHoliday]

soo gonna be at superbowl

and whats this about aliens being unrealistic, even scientists have said theres more chance that there are extraterrestrials then then isnt

Exactly. You'd have to be a loon to think we are alone in the universe.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't care if the artifact has to do with aliens... but damn we better not be seeing UFO's or alien bodies in this film and get something like Mission to Mars... this as an Indy movie for Indy's sake...

[Agentsands77]

and whats this about aliens being unrealistic, even scientists have said theres more chance that there are extraterrestrials then then isnt
Not entirely true. Recent science is demonstrating more and more how rare the necessarily conditions for life are, and how increasingly unlikely it seems that there's substantially developed life elsewhere in the universe. It's called "Rare Earth Theory."

[SuperJAK]

Not entirely true. Recent science is demonstrating more and more how rare the necessarily conditions for life are, and how increasingly unlikely it seems that there's substantially developed life elsewhere in the universe. It's called "Rare Earth Theory."
But that is just based on what we know. Who says we know all the necessary conditions for life, or that they cannot be repeated in an infinitely large universe?

[scifiwolf]

From what I've heard, the presence of the aliens is going to be the exact same as the presence of R2-D2 and C-3PO in Raiders. If you know when and where to look, you might see them. If you don't, you'll never know they were there.

[Agentsands77]

But that is just based on what we know. Who says we know all the necessary conditions for life, or that they cannot be repeated in an infinitely large universe?
All science has to be done by what we know. Perhaps we don't know all the necessary conditions for life, and there is some scenario we don't know by which it could exist. But that's entirely speculation.

Furthermore, the universe is infinitely large, but it's not infinitely full. It's infinitely large because it's continually filling up with dead space.

[Agentsands77]

From what I've heard, the presence of the aliens is going to be the exact same as the presence of R2-D2 and C-3PO in Raiders. If you know when and where to look, you might see them. If you don't, you'll never know they were there.
That's really quite cool, then. What a wonderful little in-joke.

[Mr. Socko]

From what I've heard, the presence of the aliens is going to be the exact same as the presence of R2-D2 and C-3PO in Raiders. If you know when and where to look, you might see them. If you don't, you'll never know they were there.


That sounds good, I'm sure they can pull it off.

Really excited for Indy, why'd they have to push the trailer date back so far:csad:

[Matt Murdock]

Whoaaa, hold the phone. R2 - D2 was in Raiders?

[Hunter Rider]

That sounds good, I'm sure they can pull it off.

Really excited for Indy, why'd they have to push the trailer date back so far:csad:

B/c they saw you whining about aliens and punished us all. :cmad:

[dark_b]

why i dont like aliens in an indy movie?
because spielberg made already tons of alien movies. good ones if i might add. i love spielbergs moveis about aliens. i really do. but why do we need aliens now in an indiy movie?
it looks like spielberg and lucas are obsessed with aliens.

[Mr. Socko]

B/c they saw you whining about aliens and punished us all. :cmad:


I thought people would realize I wasn't serious when I said I wanted George Lucas to choke on a pork sammich:csad:

why i dont like aliens in an indy movie?
because spielberg made already tons of alien movies. good ones if i might add. i love spielbergs moveis about aliens. i really do. but why do we need aliens now in an indiy movie?
it looks like spielberg and lucas are obsessed with aliens.

If they're in, it's only going to be a small little part. Won't ruin the movie, could be a fun catch if anything.

[dark_b]

i can already see small aliens that act like gremlins.

[Agentsands77]

That sounds good, I'm sure they can pull it off.
It doesn't change the fact, though, that the skulls are of extraterrestrial origin and the pyramid is a space ship. I don't know if that bothers you or not.

[Spider-Vader]

why i dont like aliens in an indy movie?
because spielberg made already tons of alien movies. good ones if i might add. i love spielbergs moveis about aliens. i really do. but why do we need aliens now in an indiy movie?
it looks like spielberg and lucas are obsessed with aliens.
Maybe they were abducted. :oldrazz:
Whoaaa, hold the phone. R2 - D2 was in Raiders?
In the background in the Well of the Souls on a brick.

[SuperJAK]

Alien artifacts fits perfectly with the 1950's aspect of the film IMO.

[StylishHokie21]

I'm looking forward to the teaser.

[Ring Deacon]

Whoaaa, hold the phone. R2 - D2 was in Raiders?

The sure are, and so is Leia. They are on the walls of the Well of Souls

http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/RaidersWOS_small.jpg

Also

Jock's airplane at the beginning has the registration number "OB-CPO", referring to Obi-wan and C-3PO from Star Wars

The scene where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a bazooka, as it is being carried through a canyon, was filmed in the exact same canyon in Tunisia used in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope when R2-D2 was zapped and stolen by Jawas

[Mr. Socko]

It doesn't change the fact, though, that the skulls are of extraterrestrial origin and the pyramid is a space ship. I don't know if that bothers you or not.


That is cool, I don't really have a problem with it. I'm sure it'll all work out fine.

[Watson]

The sure are, and so is Leia. They are on the walls of the Well of Souls

Also

Jock's airplane at the beginning has the registration number "OB-CPO", referring to Obi-wan and C-3PO from Star Wars

The scene where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a bazooka, as it is being carried through a canyon, was filmed in the exact same canyon in Tunisia used in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope when R2-D2 was zapped and stolen by Jawas

Not to mention Club Obi in Temple :up:

[Spider-Vader]

That was Leia!? Never noticed it until you mentioned.

[aaron]

i actually hope we see aliens

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40003




Frank Marshall on Indy 4
Source: Edward Douglas
December 5, 2007


Producer Frank Marshall has earned his reputation from working in the movie business (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40003#) for over 35 years, mostly working with Steven Spielberg on movies like Raiders of the Lost Ark and the Amblin films, but also having huge hits on his own with blockbusters like The Sixth Sense and more recently, the Jason Bourne trilogy.

While we were talking to Mr. Marshall about The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=13889), we wondered whether there was any serious possibility about a fourth movie, after Matt Damon has told reporters in recent months that he's reticent about returning. "There were only three books written. I know they've written a fourth but it wasn't written by Ludlum," Marshall said. "Look, we would love to continue the franchise. We just need a great story, and we're not going to do it unless we have a great story, but we are working on coming up with one, and Matt said to me, ‘Look, you hand me a great script, I'm in.' Unfortunately, we're not able to do any writing at the moment, but we're all thinking about it."

He also has a bunch of new movies coming out next year including The Spiderwick Chronicles (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=13847), Wayne Kramer's Crossing Over (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=22245) and David Fincher's The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=20703), but no movie is more anticipated than his latest with Spielberg, that being Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665).

He told us why Steven and Harrison Ford (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40003#) felt that now was the time to return to Indy. "It's kind of been out there in the air, but we never had the right script, and we kind of put it on the backburner and then back in 2000, we all went to the AFI Lifetime Achievement Award for Harrison. George and Harrison and Steven and I and Kathy were all backstage all dressed up and we were looking at clips from the movies and we thought, ‘God, those were really fun. Maybe we oughta really focus on trying to do another one." And that's what happened. David Koepp came up with a great script finally, and we're done shooting and now in the editing process. It's pretty amazing."

"What we've done is we moved it from the '40s to the ‘50s so we're acknowledging that everybody's 10 or 15 years older and it plays into the story," he told us when asked about how things would be different from the earlier movies. "We're not trying to hide that Harrison's older, but we have Shia LaBeouf coming in as his sidekick, so we've got a young element. The best way to describe the movie is that it's an Indiana Jones movie. It's got all the style and elements of the old movies, and we're not really trying to do anything different."

"You're going to see a teaser poster later this month," he said when asked when we might be seeing some more from the movie.

[Watson]

^I don't know if I can take any more teaser poster madness.

But seriously, yay!

[Whiskey Tango]

Indy and Star Wars are the only two series I've seen in full on the big screen. NOTHING will keep me away from this one, I don't care if my head falls off on the way to the theater.

Just going to the official site and hearing the music gives me goosebumps.

[chaseter]

i actually hope we see aliens
No aliens:o

[britrogue]

The sure are, and so is Leia. They are on the walls of the Well of Souls

http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/RaidersWOS_small.jpg

Also

Jock's airplane at the beginning has the registration number "OB-CPO", referring to Obi-wan and C-3PO from Star Wars

The scene where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a bazooka, as it is being carried through a canyon, was filmed in the exact same canyon in Tunisia used in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope when R2-D2 was zapped and stolen by Jawas


I am ashamed to admit I have never noticed R2 and Leia in the Well Of Souls! I am disgusted with myself! :cmad:

[Taiwarriorz21]

when the heck are they going to give us a trailer? It's almost Christmas! Where's my early present?!

[Cinemaman]

^^^

I remember reading something about moving to Feb.

[Taiwarriorz21]

^^^

I remember reading something about moving to Feb.

I guess they don't care about getting me my Christmas present. :eek:

[Cinemaman]

^^^

I guess they don't care about anybody in this forum :(

[Advanced Dark]

I am ashamed to admit I have never noticed R2 and Leia in the Well Of Souls! I am disgusted with myself! :cmad:

Wow! Now I gotta go watch that tonight when I get back from the Improv. LOL Funny.

[Advanced Dark]

The sure are, and so is Leia. They are on the walls of the Well of Souls

http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/RaidersWOS_small.jpg

Also

Jock's airplane at the beginning has the registration number "OB-CPO", referring to Obi-wan and C-3PO from Star Wars

The scene where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a bazooka, as it is being carried through a canyon, was filmed in the exact same canyon in Tunisia used in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope when R2-D2 was zapped and stolen by Jawas

What was the significance of 3263827 from the trash compactor in star wars. Was it someone's phone #. LOL I never forgot that #.

[Cagefighterkip]

so i heard a rumor about the stunt double doing all the whip work on KOTCS... is this true?

[Taiwarriorz21]

^^^

I guess they don't care about anybody in this forum :(

Does Spielberg have a heart? If so why hasn't he made JURASSIC IV yet? :wow:

[scifiwolf]

so i heard a rumor about the stunt double doing all the whip work on KOTCS... is this true?Absolutely not. Ray Winstone was quoted as saying that Harrison Ford could hit a spot on a wall with the whip, and others have talked about the impressive amount of stunt work Harrison did on set.

[Cagefighterkip]

Absolutely not. Ray Winstone was quoted as saying that Harrison Ford could hit a spot on a wall with the whip, and others have talked about the impressive amount of stunt work Harrison did on set.

thanks man, yknow i think i read that rumor on AICN, and they're normally reliable for good, honest info :whatever:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

^I don't know if I can take any more teaser poster madness.

LOL, I know what you mean.

OMG TEASER POSTER!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy4.jpg

:woot:

[Watson]

LOL, I know what you mean.

OMG TEASER POSTER!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy4.jpg

:woot:

OMG THAT POSTER IS TEH SUXXX!!!!1!!! kTHXbai


But really...that is hilarious. Well done sir :up:

[bunk]

LOL, I know what you mean.

OMG TEASER POSTER!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy4.jpg

:woot:


Dude, are you responsible for that? I was lmao, and I think you might have opened a can a worms there.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i14.tinypic.com/7yf65h3.jpg

[Mr. Socko]

Ford looks great in some pics, and much older in others. That one fits into the latter.

Does Spielberg have a heart? If so why hasn't he made JURASSIC IV yet? :wow:

I can't say I want a JP4.

[Cagefighterkip]

Any new words on Shia Leabuff getting his own Indy-spinoff series? From what I understand (SPOILERS LURK BELOW) that Indy speeds off with Marion at the end and Indy's fedora falls at Mutt's feet... setting for the further adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Dude, are you responsible for that? I was lmao, and I think you might have opened a can a worms there.

LOL yeah, I don't know how to deal with the new TDK poster.

[CorpusBlack]

when the heck are they going to give us a trailer? It's almost Christmas! Where's my early present?!

I figured we'd have a trailer by now. I mean everytime a new Star Wars film was coming out, Lucas dropped a teaser in November the previous year.

[Cagefighterkip]

the new trailer needs to be here... i'd be happy with a simple teaser now, but the trailer wont be till february most likely during the superbowl and/or with the spiderwick chronicles... sigh...

[Mr. Socko]

Any new words on Shia Leabuff getting his own Indy-spinoff series? From what I understand (SPOILERS LURK BELOW) that Indy speeds off with Marion at the end and Indy's fedora falls at Mutt's feet... setting for the further adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.


I don't particularly believe this. I like Shia but in an Indy-spinoff series? I'll have to turn it down.

[Cagefighterkip]

yeah
i dont know if i could get behind shia in a spinoff. the rumors were(?) running wild. it all started from an interview with one of the producers on MTV... i just dont think you could do it without ford.

[Spider-Vader]

Does Spielberg have a heart? If so why hasn't he made JURASSIC IV yet? :wow:
'Cause he's making this. :oldrazz:
Any new words on Shia Leabuff getting his own Indy-spinoff series? From what I understand (SPOILERS LURK BELOW) that Indy speeds off with Marion at the end and Indy's fedora falls at Mutt's feet... setting for the further adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.

LOL. If you're serious, I will be LMAO in the theater.

[Dr. Fate]

New pics!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull1.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/indyskull3.jpg
He looks like a greedy, grumpy old man who can't let go of his glory days.

[Spider-Fan]

I think the trailer will be with National Treasure 2. Just my guess.

Considering I think this will suck, and that NT2 will also (since NT was just completely awful), I will avoid it, but will probably be dragged into the theater by my dad (obsessed with NT and so excited for NT2 :dry:)

[Agentsands77]

I don't particularly believe this. I like Shia but in an Indy-spinoff series? I'll have to turn it down.
It was recently refuted by producer Frank Marshall. He said they're all too old for another franchise.

Does Spielberg have a heart? If so why hasn't he made JURASSIC IV yet? :wow:
He hasn't made JURASSIC PARK IV yet because he has a heart.

[Agentsands77]

LOL. If you're serious, I will be LMAO in the theater.
Well, he is indeed right.

KINGDOM does indeed end with Marion/Indy getting hitched, driving off, and Indy's hat getting blown off and landing at his son's feet. But that's not there to provide an opportunity for a new franchise, it's just showing the torch get passed.

[The Caped Knight]

http://i14.tinypic.com/7yf65h3.jpg

Question is Shia Indy's Son ?

[Whiskey Tango]

He looks like a greedy, grumpy old man who can't let go of his glory days.

Looks like Indy to me. He's even got webs 'n **** on his hat in that last pic.:up:

[Agentsands77]

Question is Shia Indy's Son ?
Yes.

[Watson]

I think the trailer will be with National Treasure 2. Just my guess.

Considering I think this will suck, and that NT2 will also (since NT was just completely awful), I will avoid it, but will probably be dragged into the theater by my dad (obsessed with NT and so excited for NT2 :dry:)

I thought it was confirmed it wasn't out till February :huh:

[Spider-Fan]

I thought it was confirmed it wasn't out till February :huh:

I haven't been following this production much, so I don't know. As I have said many times in this thread, I am not pumped for Indy 4.

[Watson]

^That's cool. I just thought that there was a new rumour making the rounds.

[Spider-Fan]

^That's cool. I just thought that there was a new rumour making the rounds.

I could always start one :woot:

[The Caped Knight]

Yes.

I thought so , So Marion is the mother right ?

[Agentsands77]

I thought so , So Marion is the mother right ?
Yes.

[Spider-Vader]

I thought it was confirmed it wasn't out till February :huh:

Teaser? That said trailer.

[The Caped Knight]

Yes.

Sweet.

Question how do you know ?

[Agentsands77]

Question how do you know ?
I'm not the only one to report this. CHUD.com and IESB.net, both sites that have broken information that was later confirmed, posted it.

But I have a source of my own that was able to read a summary of the film given to advertisers to help come up with clever campaign strategies and ideas. He also told me some details that have later been confirmed as they came out through other sources. He's been entirely right so far on everything we can confirm, and he matches up with the other more reliable reports.

[Jack Napier]

He looks like a greedy, grumpy old man who can't let go of his glory days.

And you look like a tool who likes to stir the **** pot.

[Jack Napier]

I haven't been following this production much, so I don't know. As I have said many times in this thread, I am not pumped for Indy 4.

It'll be better than Spider-Man 3, I assure you.

[Dr. Fate]

And you look like a tool who likes to stir the **** pot.
Oh yeah, brilliant comeback.

[Spider-Fan]

It'll be better than Spider-Man 3, I assure you.

Why is it that whenever I mention my opinion that Indy 4 will suck, someone brings up SM3? It is getting old. Yes, I LOVED SM3, but that has no bearing on my views on this movie.

[Matt Murdock]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread before I find any more out about this movie.

[Castlewood]

You know what would be perfect? If they showed the Indy trailer with National Treasure, and it said, "The one that started it all", and it would make National Treasure look like the copy-cat piece of crap it really is.
Hell, National Treasure is simply a combination of things.... Indy, Mummy, and Da Vinci Code. Don't deny it. :word:

[Mr. Socko]

I have to disagree. Just because National Treasurer is an adventure film doesn't mean it's ripping from all of the greats.

I honestly do not see these strange parallels with National Treasurer and Indiana Jones or National Treasurer and the Mummy. . .sounds to me like people see them because they want to.

[scifiwolf]

I think people forget that Indy is a copy of the great treasure and adventure films that came before it. The bottom line is, NT and Mummy aren't really copies, they're other films in the same genre.

[Kevin Roegele]

You know what would be perfect? If they showed the Indy trailer with National Treasure, and it said, "The one that started it all", and it would make National Treasure look like the copy-cat piece of crap it really is.
Hell, National Treasure is simply a combination of things.... Indy, Mummy, and Da Vinci Code. Don't deny it. :word:

And Indiana Jones isn't?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Gunga Din was obviously an influence on Indiana Jones. In Gunga Din, they fight the Thugee! Great adventure film with the charismatic Cary Grant as one of the heroes.

I'd say Treasure of the Sierra Madre was also an influence. Great movie as well.

[SuperJAK]

Why is it that whenever I mention my opinion that Indy 4 will suck, someone brings up SM3? It is getting old. Yes, I LOVED SM3, but that has no bearing on my views on this movie.Because people can't handle the fact you think differently to them, so they try and discredit you through the popular opinion. It is both lame and pathetic. I say this as someone looking forward to Indy 4 and who believes SM3 was a badly done movie.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It'll be better than Spider-Man 3, I assure you.

LOL, watch Matt come in here and ***** at ME for getting off topic again!

[Cagefighterkip]

Because people can't handle the fact you think differently to them, so they try and discredit you through the popular opinion. It is both lame and pathetic. I say this as someone looking forward to Indy 4 and who believes SM3 was a badly done movie.

good job sir, very nice.
finally someone who is talking back but not being rude... cool.

[Cagefighterkip]

from The Raider Dot Net:
Cate Blanchett & Ray Winstone's characters revealed
07/12/07, 4:48pm EST

Rest assured, the SPOILER character details are still hidden from plain sight on TheRaider.net!
The roles Cate Blanchett and Ray Winstone play in the new Kingdom of the Crystal Skull are no longer a secret! During an exclusive interview with MTV News producer Frank Marshall finally revealed some more info on the roles these actors are playing.
And while you would assume that these actor instantly jumped at the opportunity to star in the fourth Indiana Jones, it wasn't like that exactly.

"Well, no," "Indy" producer Frank Marshall laughed. "I think it's an opportunity that doesn't come along very often — to do these kinds of big movies — but they talk to Steven and he pitches the role. [Before they commit], they want to know, rightfully, what the part is."

"Well, Cate [Blanchett] is just spectacular, one of the finest actresses working today. She went from The Curious Case of Benjamin Button to playing [ the villainess in 'Indiana Jones,' so she's up for anything," Marshall enthused, confirming speculation that the Oscar winner joined the cast as Indy's main adversary. "She makes a great villain. She had a really fun time. ]

"Ray Winstone, he came from Beowulf to this," Marshall continued, describing Winstone's character, [ Mac, as a sort of cross between villain Belloq and friend Sallah. "He plays an archaeologist competitor to Indy. Friend and competitor." ]

And Jim Broadbent? He plays [ a Yale colleague of Dr. Jones' that "sort of replaces Marcus Brody," ] Marshall said.

All three, along with Shia LaBeouf, Karen Allen, Harrison Ford, Spielberg, Lucas and Marshall himself, face a particularly "huge expectation" with "Indy 4," the producer said — a pressure to succeed that led screenwriter David Koepp to recently tell MTV News that his biggest hope for the film was "just [to not] screw up."

It's a pressure they've faced and successfully surpassed, Marshall insisted.

"I think the best thing I can say about it is it looks like an Indiana Jones movie in all the best ways. It's the look, it's the way that Steven designs all the shots, it's the style, it's the lighting, it's the way Indy is — all of those things. We haven't strayed," he giddily explained. "It sounds trite, but there's no other way to describe it. You go, 'Oh — Indy.' There's sort of a language that Steven developed for this character and for these movies. And you're going to get exactly what you got in the other three movies, which is really kind of thrilling when you see it."

Frank Marshall also denied all rumors that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull would be the start of another series. Not with Harrison Ford or with Shia LaBeouf.

"I don't think so. We're all getting too old," Marshall playfully reported. "We have to hand the [adventure] torch to somebody else. I don't know who that's going to be."

[scifiwolf]

Cagefighter, you might want to clean that up, cause it's kinda hard to read. For those of you who do not want to read through it, I'll make bullet points.


Cate Blanchet is the villain (we already knew this)
Mac (Ray Winstone) is a competitor, but friend, to Indy (we already knew this)
Steven's style for the film hearkens back to the original Indy movies
BIGGIE: There will be NO continuation of the series with Harrison, Shia, or anyone else


The fact that there will be no spinoff series should relieve many. The fact that Frank Marshall stresses Shia in that statement could be a subtle confirmation that Mutt is indeed Indy's son.

[Cagefighterkip]

[quote=scifiwolf;13465614]Cagefighter, you might want to clean that up, cause it's kinda hard to read. For those of you who do not want to read through it, I'll make bullet points.quote]

sorry man-
im really new here (as of 2days) ill get muchos better w/it

[scifiwolf]

lol- no worries, man.

[bunk]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread before I find any more out about this movie.


I literally just scroll down the page real quick to check for new pics. I've all but stopped reading posted in fear of finding out something I didn't want to know.

[Spider-Vader]

I might start stop reading around trailer time.

[scifiwolf]

These were pulled off a German site and are making the rounds today:

Set 7624
"Jungle Duel"
http://www.spielsteine.eu/images/product_images/popup_images/214_0.jpg

Set 7625
"River Chase"
http://www.spielsteine.eu/images/product_images/popup_images/215_0.jpg

Set 7626
"Jungle Cutter"
http://www.spielsteine.eu/images/product_images/popup_images/216_0.jpg

[Timstuff]

Wow, that cutter-tank-thing would be pretty crazy if it's in the actual film...

[Agentsands77]

The cutter tank is in the film. We've had set pictures of it, and it's included in an action sequence that I've heard described as something like the tank chase in LAST CRUSADE.

[Rac]

I wanna see official Nazi Legos!

[scifiwolf]

There might be some legal roadblocks to making Nazi children's toys...

[Lord Valumart]

action man had nazi's in the 70's...man those uniforms were nice...

[Timstuff]

I always thought it would be cool if Lego made an entire line of military sets, but alas, it never happened. :(

[scifiwolf]

I totally forgot about the Raiders sets...

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/indyLego.jpg

[batfan1028]

Scifiwolf can you give us a link as to where you are getting these pics?

[scifiwolf]

The original trilogy LEGO sets I pulled off Google. The site for the Crystal Skull sets is spielsteine.eu (http://www.spielsteine.eu/LEGO/LEGO-INDIANA-JONES:::213_239.html).