Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[black_dust]

ndiana Jones 4 Starts Filming in June
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
January 1, 2007


The Hollywood Reporter has learned more details about the Indiana Jones 4 production after George Lucas announced on Friday that the project is a go for a release in May, 2008.

After years spent in script development, the fourth installment of the successful franchise is set to begin production in June in locations around the world and in the U.S.

Although he has been developing other projects, including a biopic about Abraham Lincoln with Liam Neeson attached to star, Spielberg has decided the "Indiana Jones" sequel will be his next directorial outing.

"George, Harrison and I are all very excited," Spielberg said. "We feel that the script was well worth the wait. We hope it delivers everything you'd expect from our history with Indiana Jones."

The film will be produced by Lucasfilm Ltd. and released worldwide by Paramount Pictures, the parent company of DreamWorks. Frank Marshall will serve as producer, with Lucas and Kathy Kennedy joining him as executive producers.

David Koepp, who has wrote such previous Spielberg projects as Jurassic Park and War of the Worlds, wrote the screenplay that finally got the stamp of approval from Lucas and Spielberg. An earlier screenplay by Frank Darabont had been shelved when Lucas turned thumbs down on it.

For the moment, the title of the new film as well as its story line are being kept under wraps.

Although a spokesman for Spielberg said Monday that no casting has begun, Lucas and Ford have said that they would like to include Sean Connery, who played Indiana Jones' father, Professor Henry Jones, in "The Last Crusade."

June hu? I wonder he Connery will be back? because didnt he retire from acting not long ago?

[Speedball]

June hu? I wonder he Connery will be back? because didnt he retire from acting not long ago?
Connery retire?
That's the craziest thing I've ever read.
He'll probably be in it...he is immortal in the series, so why not?

[Shifty]

The big question is, apart from, 'Is Ford too old?' is how Spielberg will approach the film given that he's now in his 'dark' period and it's fourteen years since his last big family-friendly adventure (even The Lost World is dark, ominous and broody). Since then he's been making downbeat and depressing films about serious subjects, be it war, religion or identity, with two average comedies forced inbetween.

I don't see the Indiana Jones Trilogy as big family-friendly. If your family has young teenagers then yes. I think the only big family-friendly movie with Nazis is The Sound of Music. I didn't see Minority Report as depressing.

[Hunter Rider]

June for anyone else I'd say is pushing it but not Spielberg,10 months is easily enough and bringing back Henry is OK but with the plot surely emphasising Indy's age do we need another aged Jones ?

[Kevin Roegele]

I don't see the Indiana Jones Trilogy as big family-friendly.

Absolutely they are. The Temple of Doom has got a family in it (Indy, Willie and Shorty). Plus it's typical Goonie-era Spielberg. And Last Crusade is the most comedic of the three.

I didn't see Minority Report as depressing.

Really? The hero can't let go of his dead family and is framed for murder by his mentor/father figure. It's film noir set in the future.

[Hunter Rider]

Absolutely they are. The Temple of Doom has got a family in it (Indy, Willie and Shorty). Plus it's typical Goonie-era Spielberg. And Last Crusade is the most comedic of the three.

the Hills have eyes has a family unit in it is it a family movie ? i'd say any pretence at being a one for under 12's is shot to pieces with the blood drinking and heart ripping coupled with child slavery and the dark ominous frightening tone of the middle act
I agree with you on Crusade though



Really? The hero can't let go of his dead family and is framed for murder by his mentor/father figure. It's film noir set in the future.
I wouldn't say it is a depressing or non depressing movie,it's simply a thriller with an point to ponder that has a redemptive ending and a few adventurous action set pieces

[Shifty]

Absolutely they are. The Temple of Doom has got a family in it (Indy, Willie and Shorty). Plus it's typical Goonie-era Spielberg. And Last Crusade is the most comedic of the three.


Really? The hero can't let go of his dead family and is framed for murder by his mentor/father figure. It's film noir set in the future.

A lot of movies have a family in it, and that isn't a great example of a family either. For 12 and over they're fine probably even 10, but when I think "big family friendly" movies I would think of Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. Temple of Doom was PG and after it was released PG-13 was created. They could watch it on the edited TV versions.


If Cruise remained locked up and Pre-Crime went national without the truth being known then it could get away with being depressive. Was The Fugitive depressing? No. You felt sorry for Kimble but you left the theatre in a good mood.

[black_dust]

Connery retire?
That's the craziest thing I've ever read.
He'll probably be in it...he is immortal in the series, so why not?
Connery received the American Film Institute's Lifetime Achievement Award on 8 June 2006, where he again confirmed his retirement from acting.

It is still strongly rumored that he will reprise his role as Indiana Jones's father in the forthcoming Indiana Jones film. This rumor has not been confirmed or denied by the studio or any of the actors involved.

Crazy indeed

[britrogue]

This is where I start getting excited. Harrison Ford is my lifelong hero

[Catman]

I seem to recall that he wasn't the last writer on the project.

Looks like Koepp was the last writer involved.

"David Koepp, who has wrote such previous Spielberg projects as Jurassic Park and War of the Worlds, wrote the screenplay that finally got the stamp of approval from Lucas and Spielberg"
-Hollywood Reporter

[GREEN =w= DAY]

oh man, oh man!! i am pumped for this!!!! finally, after 10+ years of not knowing what was gonna happen to Indy 4, we finally have a script approval by both Lucas and Spielberg, filming date, and relase date!!!! I have complete confidence in Spielberg and Lucas too believe it or not (the film would not get greenlit unless Spielberg approved as well, and he will more input in the film than Lucas anyway :woot: ) Harrison Ford is gonna kick total major ass!!! 2008 is already gonna be an awesome year with The Dark Knight and Indy 4 coming out. CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Shifty]

Well it looks like for Christmas 2008 I'll ask for the Indiana Jones Quadrilogy:whatever: for DVD. Or maybe HD-DVD. Never bought the DVD set since it seemed like Indy IV would be made in the coming year.

[Golgo-13]

Making this movie is a really big mistake. Taking the greatest action adventure trilogy and trying to re-capture the magic after 17 years..? Very risky. But with the succes of the new Rocky movie, i guess old franchises can be resurrected with some grade of success..i just hope it doesn't back-fire.

btw, is this movie going up against the Batman sequel?

[Shifty]

Making this movie is a really big mistake. Taking the greatest action adventure trilogy and trying to re-capture the magic after 17 years..? Very risky. But with the succes of the new Rocky movie, i guess old franchises can be resurrected with some grade of success..i just hope it doesn't back-fire.

btw, is this movie going up against the Batman sequel?

Well it was 16 years for Episode I, critically it wasn't well received but I'm sure Lucas doesn't mind that it made over $400 million domestically and whatever he made from merchandise. If the film is better than Temple of Doom (still a great 2 hours) than I'll be pleased. Its not like Joe Johnston is the director or is like Terminator 3, it has mostly everyone from the previous films and the new talent they brought in has had great success in the past 15 years.

As for a Batman vs. Indiana rematch, not really. They said Indy 4 will be out in May 2008. May 9 or May 30 are the two Fridays in May that aren't spoken for, plus it could open on a Thursday. Has there been a solid date for The Dark Knight or just June or July 2008? I'm thinking they'll go for the May 9 release date so it will face less of the summer competition and be in theatres for the Memorial Day Long weekend.

[Catman]

The Dark Knight is gonna be released in July. The first Batman film since B89 to not be released in June. :csad:

[britrogue]

I just have real mixed feelings about this. I hope my beloved Indy isn't going to be written off as an old man, whilst the obligatory son goes out and has all the fun

[Fried Gold]

I just have real mixed feelings about this. I hope my beloved Indy isn't going to be written off as an old man, whilst the obligatory son goes out and has all the funPerosnally, I hope the 'obligatory son' dies within the first reel.

[britrogue]

LMAO. As lolng as Indy himself doesn't bite the bullet. They threatened to do that in The Last Crusade and I really don't think I could bear it!

[Fried Gold]

LMAO. As lolng as Indy himself doesn't bite the bullet. They threatened to do that in The Last Crusade and I really don't think I could bear it!I don't think they'd do that. I can see Henry Jones Sr. biting the bullet, though.

[green]

Ive spoken out against this, I think the whole movie is a terrible idea and shouldnt be made.



But darn it, Im actually kinda getting exctied.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Well I hate George Lucas and Steven Spielberg (alright...I just dislike him a little)...and I'm not the biggest fan of this but hey, I'm gonna be dragged to this movie anyday

[Gonking]

David Koepp Talks Indiana Jones 4
Source: FilmStew.com January 17, 2007

FilmStew.com talked to Indiana Jones 4 screenwriter David Koepp, who dropped some interesting bits:

Koepp agrees that it would be crazy not to take into account star Harrison Ford's real age for this next installment. In fact, he suggests that if it were not in the script, Ford would likely insist on references to this being added.

As much as he is a fan of Indy lore, Koepp says it's essential to discard that point of view when tapping out further adventures. "You can't write a fan script," he insists. "You have to pretend that this movie exists without the other one." "The worst thing to do would be to have him make reference to things he said in the first movie, like to pun on lines of dialogue."

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18471

[Shifty]

Had an idea for the Indy 4 villain; Peter Stormare

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Peter_Stormare.jpg/200px-Peter_Stormare.jpg

Minority Report, The Lost World, Prison Break
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001780/

If Indy 4 is after WWII, the Soviets would be in power and could be searching for a religious artifact that would help them win the Cold War. He played a Russian in Bad Boys II, didn't see was he able to play a convincing Russian?

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18525


Sean Connery Considering Indiana Jones 4
Source: Scotland on Sunday (http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=106882007)
January 22, 2007


Sean Connery has told Scotland on Sunday (http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=106882007) that he is considering returning as Dr. Henry Jones in the highly-anticipated Indiana Jones 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665). He previously played Indiana Jones (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18525#)' father in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade back in 1989:

The new Indiana Jones film is due to shoot this summer, and after being approached by Lucas, Connery admits he is seriously considering it.

Asked directly if he thought he would be back in front of the cameras this summer as Dr Jones, he answered: "Perhaps."

Choosing his words carefully, Connery then added: "At the moment there's nothing decided. I haven't got the script. Everything depends on the script."

Filming is expected to start in June for a May, 2008 release

[britrogue]

Oh well, watch this space I guess

[Backdrifter]

Why is this film needed? Last Crusade was called "Last" for a reason and it was a nice cherry on top of a classic film sundae.

[jimmylace]

oh yeah here we go! look, the new indiana jones movie is

a-with an older indy, b in a different time period, c character-driven.

that alone actually makes this movie MORE worthwhile than any of the other sequels, because its not going to be a formulaic retread like the other sequels were.

How does a hero grow old? what would spider-man be like in his 50's? I think its quite an intruiging opportunity.

Im expecting Indy 4 to be a slow burner like da vinci code more than anything (but with more humour and better dialogue)

[GREEN =w= DAY]

hat and whip DAMMIT!!!

[Jack O Lantern]

Why is this film needed? Last Crusade was called "Last" for a reason and it was a nice cherry on top of a classic film sundae.

Yeah it was called "Last" because it was the Last Crusade. The crusades were when Kings and Knights would go in search of the Holy Grail, since the grail has been iscovered there is no reason for another crusade, hence the name Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.

It was never meant to be the last Adventure of Indiana Jones.

[Golgo-13]

But it was implied it was. In other words 'The Last' in the title had a double meaning...and yes it made a nice finale to the greatest adventure franchise in cinema history....i actually heard that the guy who played Short Round in The 'Temple of Doom' was gonna be in 4...god what an aweful mistake they're making...

[FaT_tONle]

You guys need to have faith... Spielberg and Harrison are on board... imagine they made this in 94/95 without Spielberg directing... the movie would have bombed... look you know they can pep Ford up.... Balboa looked like he was 40 in Rocky 6... just dye him up... put some make up... we are talking about the greatest action hero of our time that also played our favorite movie characters of all time... have faith...

[GoldGoblin]

When do they start filming?

[Shifty]

When do they start filming?

June. So it will probably take 2-3 months (how long did the other three movies take to shoot? I just know Spielberg usually has his movies done in 2-3 months). Spielberg has said that they're doing a non-CGI film (or have very little hopefully not noticeable) so any post-production shouldn't take very long and will make the 2008 target. We could have a teaser trailer this November. :woot:

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31437

Harrison Ford willing to Quit INDY IV because of Fake Whip Chit?


Hey folks, Harry here - you won't believe this story... in fact I don't know if I believe this story, as it just sounds so ****ing ridiculous as to be... ridiculous. Word from this site (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1254481.php/Ford_demands_whip) is reporting that Harrison Ford is not happy. That there are alleged new "Hollywood Regulations" that forbid Harrison getting to wield the iconic whip, due to it being possibly dangerous - thus making it required to replace the real whip with a CG whip. The story says that Harrison is so dedicated to his whip, that he's willing to walk off the film if he, as DEVO said, can't WHIP IT, WHIP IT REAL GOOD!

If this is so - this is just sad. If it isn't so... then that's one helluva fun rumor. Take it with a grain of salt. - this story was sent in by a young Indiana.

[black_dust]

Hell i hope he does walk if they give him a CGI whip

[The_Raven]

That there are alleged new "Hollywood Regulations" that forbid Harrison getting to wield the iconic whip, due to it being possibly dangerous - thus making it required to replace the real whip with a CG whip. The story says that Harrison is so dedicated to his whip, that he's willing to walk off the film if he, as DEVO said, can't WHIP IT, WHIP IT REAL GOOD!

This can't possibly be true.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

They used a mixture of real and CG whips in Catwoman not three years ago. Why are they kicking up a stink if this is true?

[black_dust]

They used a mixture of real and CG whips in Catwoman not three years ago. Why are they kicking up a stink if this is true?

And look how that movie turned out :p


I dont think ford wants to be running around with a green stick :)

[jrpstarwars]

I am not certain but I have know doubt this is true. Look how pussified, sports, school, and the workplace have become because of legal threat. Not that these things are any easier, their surroundings are just so pussified it's ridiculous. If anything it's harder now than before.

[Redwoods Wolf]

I'm simultaneously very excited and very worried about this movie. Especially if that last rumor is true.

[GoldGoblin]

A CGI whip wouldn't be that bad,doesn't Ford know that CGI looks pretty good nowadays.

[Shifty]

The previous films had Indy finding an artifact only to lose it and then went after a religious artifact. Jewish, Christian and Hindu. They could use an one from Islam or make one up like the stones in Temple of Doom.

The Soviets could discover information of an Islamic artifact and are currently looking for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Soviet_Union

[black_dust]

Read in the paper ford is now working out everyday at hollywood pro gym, least he is getting into some sort of shape :)

[sithgoblin]

Yeah it was called "Last" because it was the Last Crusade. The crusades were when Kings and Knights would go in search of the Holy Grail, since the grail has been iscovered there is no reason for another crusade, hence the name Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.

It was never meant to be the last Adventure of Indiana Jones.

No, the crusades were about reclaiming the holy lands. They had nothing to do with the grail.

[Kevin Roegele]

They used a mixture of real and CG whips in Catwoman not three years ago. Why are they kicking up a stink if this is true?

Put yourself in Harrison Ford's shoes for a minute (if this is true). People are already claiming he is waaaay too old for this. Now he's being told, because he's too old, he can't even use a real whip. Even though he must be a master of it by now.

That would piss anybody off.

[Warhammer]

It's a damn whip.
We don't need a fully CGI whip. It's highly unnecessary.

...Lucas is going bananas.

[Eros]

IMO Ewan McGregor should be in the movie as a co-star.

[Kevin Roegele]

It's a damn whip.
We don't need a fully CGI whip. It's highly unnecessary.

...Lucas is going bananas.

LOL, I sincerely doubt the blame for this one can be placed on Lucas' head.

[Redwoods Wolf]

IMO Ewan McGregor should be in the movie as a co-star.

Reprising his role as Obi-Wan, perhaps? ;)

Indy: This is crazy. Even if we could shut down the spike trap, there's still the boulder.
Obi-Wan: Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
Indy: Damn fool, I knew you were gonna say that...

[Kevin Roegele]

Reprising his role as Obi-Wan, perhaps? ;)

Indy: This is crazy. Even if we could shut down the spike trap, there's still the boulder.
Obi-Wan: Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
Indy: Damn fool, I knew you were gonna say that...

Now there's an in-joke that could spiral quickly out of control....

[Hunter Rider]

This whole Whip fiasco has to be a rib:woot:

[Kevin Roegele]

This whole Whip fiasco has to be a rib:woot:

It sounds just ludicrous enough to be real....it would be both amusing and awful it it was.

[Eros]

Perhaps Ewan McGregor could play Indiana Jones younger partner, who he eventually passes the torch [and the hat and the whip] to at movies end.

[Golgo-13]

I really hope that this movie is 100% CGI free but with Lucas at every turn of the production, it's like asking a dog not to bark.....

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

You know it's going to have CGI. But Spielberg will be directing won't he?

Meh.

Itll have CG regardless

[Redwoods Wolf]

You know it's going to have CGI. But Spielberg will be directing won't he?

Meh.

Itll have CG regardless

Spielberg seems to be the sort of filmmaker who uses the right tool for the right job, not just CG easier. Personally, I'm hoping it will have very little CG, just to have more of the feel of the first movies.

Love that avvy. Picard's the man. :up:

[Agentsands77]

You guys need to have faith... Spielberg and Harrison are on board... imagine they made this in 94/95 without Spielberg directing... the movie would have bombed... look you know they can pep Ford up....
Well, I don't see a whole lot of reason to have faith. INDY IV is really only worth making if they can make a masterpiece, and considering neither TEMPLE OF DOOM or LAST CRUSADE were that, we're demanding a good deal. This film already has its work cut out for him.

Steven Spielberg, while a solid director, is hardly a pillar of consistency. He's on-and-off with his films, and we can only hope that he'll be on with INDY IV. But I have my doubts.

George Lucas? Hah. Moving on...

Harrison Ford. Well, Ford doesn't have all the artistic control, and furthermore, he hasn't exactly been on the best track as of late, with his string of poor project choices.

David Koepp? While his comments about the script are very encouraging, he's hardly a genius. I can only hope that the fact that his draft got approval from all three after such a long period of drafting and redrafting means that it's damn good.

But who am I kidding? They'll be able to sucker me into getting excited as soon as they crank out a trailer with the Indiana Jones theme playing the background (hell, Lucas was able to do it with the prequel trailers). I just hope I'm not disappointed.

[Hunter Rider]

Well, I don't see a whole lot of reason to have faith. INDY IV is really only worth making if they can make a masterpiece, and considering neither TEMPLE OF DOOM or LAST CRUSADE were that, we're demanding a good deal. This film already has its work cut out for him.

Steven Spielberg, while a solid director, is hardly a pillar of consistency. He's on-and-off with his films, and we can only hope that he'll be on with INDY IV. But I have my doubts.

.

I disagree on all counts

[Kevin Roegele]

There's a lot of (inevitable) Lucas-criticism in this thread. But let's not forget;

1. Lucas is just as responsible for the success of Indiana Jones as Spielberg is.

2. Lucas didn't want to make Indy IV and was only convinced by Ford and Spielberg.

As such, I see the Bearded One taking a less hands-on role for Indy IV.

[Kevin Roegele]

David Koepp? While his comments about the script are very encouraging, he's hardly a genius. I can only hope that the fact that his draft got approval from all three after such a long period of drafting and redrafting means that it's damn good.

Yeah, but come on....the previous scripts were hardly written by the greats. Lucas himself, Willard Hyuck, Jeffrey Boam...

[xwolverine2]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31437

Harrison Ford willing to Quit INDY IV because of Fake Whip Chit?


Hey folks, Harry here - you won't believe this story... in fact I don't know if I believe this story, as it just sounds so ****ing ridiculous as to be... ridiculous. Word from this site (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1254481.php/Ford_demands_whip) is reporting that Harrison Ford is not happy. That there are alleged new "Hollywood Regulations" that forbid Harrison getting to wield the iconic whip, due to it being possibly dangerous - thus making it required to replace the real whip with a CG whip. The story says that Harrison is so dedicated to his whip, that he's willing to walk off the film if he, as DEVO said, can't WHIP IT, WHIP IT REAL GOOD!

If this is so - this is just sad. If it isn't so... then that's one helluva fun rumor. Take it with a grain of salt. - this story was sent in by a young Indiana.


didnt halle have a whip?:huh:

[Agentsands77]

As such, I see the Bearded One taking a less hands-on role for Indy IV.
You may be right. And I hope you are.

Yeah, but come on....the previous scripts were hardly written by the greats. Lucas himself, Willard Hyuck, Jeffrey Boam...
I know... but I don't think the scripts for TEMPLE OF DOOM or LAST CRUSADE were particularly awe-inspiring either, so that's not entirely comforting.

If they're bothering to make INDY IV, it has to be a freaking masterpiece, otherwise they shouldn't bother. I have no doubt Koepp's talents have led him to producing something decent, but I hope David Koepp has produced a script that is that good.

[green]

There's a lot of (inevitable) Lucas-criticism in this thread. But let's not forget;

1. Lucas is just as responsible for the success of Indiana Jones as Spielberg is.

2. Lucas didn't want to make Indy IV and was only convinced by Ford and Spielberg.

As such, I see the Bearded One taking a less hands-on role for Indy IV.

Is Lucasfilms financing the whole thing?
Does anyone know?

[Backdrifter]

I don't think I have ever seen bad CGI in a Spielberg film. There is nothing to worry about.

[Kevin Roegele]

I don't think I have ever seen bad CGI in a Spielberg film. There is nothing to worry about.

It's not the quality of the CGI people care about. It's the very inclusion of CGI in an Indiana Jones film, and the fact that Indiana Jones' whip being CGI is just wrong.

[Hunter Rider]

I know... but I don't think the scripts for TEMPLE OF DOOM or LAST CRUSADE were particularly awe-inspiring either, so that's not entirely comforting.


See this is where i have no worries as i thought those films were awesome

[L0ngsh0t]

See this is where i have no worries as i thought those films were awesome

Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade are 2 of probably the 20 best adventure films ever, yeah, no worries

[Kevin Roegele]

See this is where i have no worries as i thought those films were awesome

Agentsands didn't say he didn't like those films as much as you, he said the scripts were 'not particularly awe-inspiring.' And look at them - they're really not. Last Crusade has good banter between Indy and his dad, but it's really the performances that sell a decent but average script. As for Temple of Doom....absolutely nothing special about that script whatsoever. It's just Spielberg and Lucas coming up with one set-piece after another.

[Hunter Rider]

Agentsands didn't say he didn't like those films as much as you, he said the scripts were 'not particularly awe-inspiring.' And look at them - they're really not. Last Crusade has good banter between Indy and his dad, but it's really the performances that sell a decent but average script. As for Temple of Doom....absolutely nothing special about that script whatsoever. It's just Spielberg and Lucas coming up with one set-piece after another.

I disagree,i love Temple of Doom's story very much,i think both scripts have a good balance of interesting and entertaining character interactions and cracking adventure story

[Agentsands77]

Agentsands didn't say he didn't like those films as much as you, he said the scripts were 'not particularly awe-inspiring.' And look at them - they're really not. Last Crusade has good banter between Indy and his dad, but it's really the performances that sell a decent but average script. As for Temple of Doom....absolutely nothing special about that script whatsoever. It's just Spielberg and Lucas coming up with one set-piece after another.
That's exactly what I meant.

[Golgo-13]

I was wondering something. I was watching the Last Crusade today, and it was mentioned that whomever drunk from the cup of Christ would have eternal youth. Since both Jones, Junior and Senior drunk from the cup, so in Indy 4 they should be the same age as they were in Indy 3.

I wonder if this fact will be incorporated in Indy 4's story?

[Hunter Rider]

I was wondering something. I was watching the Last Crusade today, and it was mentioned that whomever drunk from the cup of Christ would have eternal youth. Since both Jones, Junior and Senior drunk from the cup, so in Indy 4 they should be the same age as they were in Indy 3.

I wonder if this fact will be incorporated in Indy 4's story?

It only works if you don't cross the seal and stay in that cave the Knight was in,once they crossed the effect was lost

[Cаrter]

I can't stand Temple of Doom.

[Sava]

i must be the only guy in here who doesnt love Indy... really, i never found them great, just ok. But i will give this a try anyway.

[Hunter Rider]

i must be the only guy in here who doesnt love Indy... really, i never found them great, just ok. But i will give this a try anyway.

Have you still not been to that shrink ?:csad:

[Kevin Roegele]

That's exactly what I meant.

Whoa.....scary.

[Kevin Roegele]

I disagree,i love Temple of Doom's story very much,i think both scripts have a good balance of interesting and entertaining character interactions and cracking adventure story

What are the entertaining character interactions in The Temple of Doom?

Shorty is amusing but he basically runs around after Indy. Willie is annoying (and Kate Capshaw has limited chemistry with Harrison Ford, although that's not a scripting issue). And some stock bad guys. That's it.

Temple of Doom is Spielberg at his very worst level of Goonie-era self indulgence, and Lucas seeing just how nasty he could make the film and get away with (as he has later admitted). While I'll be the first to admit it's a decent action adventure, it really offers nothing in the way of characterisation, a by-the-numbers storyline, forgettable villains, and an action climax so long-winded that it's tiresome. Harrison Ford didn't actually film some parts of the climax - it's his stunt double - and it doesn't make any difference because the climax is just stunts.

Doom is also, surely, the most violent 'family' movie ever made.

Raiders had the classic, old-fashioned screwball-comedy style sparring-turned-romance of Indy and Marion, and Last Crusade obviously has Indy and his dad.

[Hunter Rider]

What are the entertaining character interactions in The Temple of Doom?

Shorty is amusing but he basically runs around after Indy. Willie is annoying (and Kate Capshaw has limited chemistry with Harrison Ford, although that's not a scripting issue). And some stock bad guys. That's it.



Well i guess the fundamental issue of opinion here is I liked Willie and the trio interactions with her Indy and Shorty,the campfire scene,the crashing plane banter,the big action sequences at the end,all lots of fun IMO
Molarom was the best of the Indy movie bad guys i thought,he was menacing and powerful in presence

[britrogue]

Yeah, the bit when she's running around screaming, and Indy and Shorty are arguing over poker is so funny.

[deathfromabove]

How does a hero grow old? what would spider-man be like in his 50's? I think its quite an intruiging opportunity.

Im expecting Indy 4 to be a slow burner like da vinci code more than anything (but with more humour and better dialogue)

i agree that this movie could (and should) be great but da vinci code was horrible.

[britrogue]

I can't wait to see my beloved Indy again. I first fell in love with him when I was 3 years old. (23 years ago!) lol

[Antonello Blueberry]

May 22, 2008.
Put your hats on and get ready to roll.

[xwolverine2]

so far so good.

[britrogue]

May 22, 2008.
Put your hats on and get ready to roll.
That date been made official now?

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759

Indiana Jones 4 Set for May 22, '08!
Source: Box Office Mojo (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=indianajones4.htm)
February 6, 2007


Box Office Mojo (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=indianajones4.htm) reports that Paramount Pictures has set Thursday, May 22, 2008 as the release for the fourth "Indiana Jones" movie (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759#), which the studio is now officially referring to as the Fourth Installment of the Indiana Jones Adventures (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665).

The picture maintains the Memorial Day weekend release strategy of the last two "Indiana Jones" movies, and it mirrors the last two "Star Wars (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759#)" movies and The Matrix Reloaded with its Thursday launch.

Also currently scheduled for Memorial Day weekend 2008 is Warner Bros.' Speed Racer (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=17308).

[britrogue]

Yay!

[Cinemaman]

They better start shooting already.

[Sava]

Have you still not been to that shrink ?:csad:

yeah but he kicked me out because we got into an aguement about The Hulk :(

[Hunter Rider]

They better start shooting already.

They start in June

yeah but he kicked me out because we got into an aguement about The Hulk :(

Always some basteed hating on big green:csad:

[Sava]

Always some basteed hating on big green:csad:
yeah, people are so racist, they hate him just cause he's green :(

... is Portman in this?...

[Hunter Rider]

yeah, people are so racist, they hate him just cause he's green :(

... is Portman in this?...

She was rumoured a while back to be playing Indy's daughter but nothing has been set since

[Sava]

She was rumoured a while back to be playing Indy's daughter but nothing has been set since

oh well, May is a good month and i'm sure there will be alot of fans going apes**t over this movie, Indy was voted the No 1 action hero of all time.

[Hunter Rider]

oh well, May is a good month and i'm sure there will be alot of fans going apes**t over this movie, Indy was voted the No 1 action hero of all time.

Movie-wise i agree:up: although Bauer is the man IMO

[Cinemaman]

They start in June


That's late, they'll have only 6-7 months fpor post-production.

[black_dust]

That's late, they'll have only 6-7 months fpor post-production.

And with little or no CGI that should be plenty enough time to edit and score.

[Hunter Rider]

That's late, they'll have only 6-7 months fpor post-production.

Yes but Spielberg always works with these times and he has had his team for a long time,they know what they are doing

[Golgo-13]

I take it John Williams is coming back?

[Joe Kerr]

cant wait for this flick, anyone know the release date?

[Hunter Rider]

cant wait for this flick, anyone know the release date?May 22, '08!

[Joe Kerr]

May 22, '08!


aye, thanks alot... :up:

[Shifty]

I take it John Williams is coming back?

I think that is a given, he hasn't retired.

I was wondering if Drew Stuzan will be back for the movie poster. He did all three Indiana Jones movies but only did the first two SW Prequel posters. No Episode III.
http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0411111033404006.jpg


http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0007250209306864.jpg
He did do some stuff for Pan's Labyrinth. http://www.drewstruzan.com/portfolio/?fa=large&gid=613&mp&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=mp

[matrix_ghost]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759

Indiana Jones 4 Set for May 22, '08!
Source: Box Office Mojo (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=indianajones4.htm)
February 6, 2007


Box Office Mojo (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=indianajones4.htm) reports that Paramount Pictures has set Thursday, May 22, 2008 as the release for the fourth "Indiana Jones" movie (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759#), which the studio is now officially referring to as the Fourth Installment of the Indiana Jones Adventures (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665).

The picture maintains the Memorial Day weekend release strategy of the last two "Indiana Jones" movies, and it mirrors the last two "Star Wars (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18759#)" movies and The Matrix Reloaded with its Thursday launch.

Also currently scheduled for Memorial Day weekend 2008 is Warner Bros.' Speed Racer (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=17308).


Damn. It'll be interesting to see if Speed Racer will maintain it's Memorial Day release date or move to another date.

[FaT_tONle]

Thank goodnees this is happening... but I don't know if that will be a good thing

[Shifty]

Damn. It'll be interesting to see if Speed Racer will maintain it's Memorial Day release date or move to another date.

Speed Racer is also set to film in June. Considering how the last two Matrix films did I think WB will move Speed Racer to the open dates in May. Indy 4 may be terrible but the opening weekend will be huge and will have a much larger fanbase than a "Speed Racer" film.

They haven't casted anyone plus Joel Silver has said all the cars may be done by computers. They'll have a much longer post-production window than Indy 4 which is basically going to be editing and scoring.

[Kevin Roegele]

oh well, May is a good month and i'm sure there will be alot of fans going apes**t over this movie, Indy was voted the No 1 action hero of all time.

Bond is number one. Everyone knows that.

[Kevin Roegele]

I think that is a given, he hasn't retired.

I was wondering if Drew Stuzan will be back for the movie poster. He did all three Indiana Jones movies but only did the first two SW Prequel posters. No Episode III.
http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0411111033404006.jpg


http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0007250209306864.jpg
He did do some stuff for Pan's Labyrinth. http://www.drewstruzan.com/portfolio/?fa=large&gid=613&mp&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=mp

That guy is the undisputed master of movie artwork. :up:

I'd love to see him do some posters for any of the upcoming supehero movies.

[Redwoods Wolf]

I think that is a given, he hasn't retired.

I was wondering if Drew Stuzan will be back for the movie poster. He did all three Indiana Jones movies but only did the first two SW Prequel posters. No Episode III.
http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0411111033404006.jpg


http://www.drewstruzan.com/documents/img/gl0007250209306864.jpg
He did do some stuff for Pan's Labyrinth. http://www.drewstruzan.com/portfolio/?fa=large&gid=613&mp&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=mp

I'm hoping he's on board for IV. I'd see it just for him doing a poster. :up:
BTW, what are you talking about with the prequel trilogy? He did Ep. III:
http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/star_wars_episode_three_ver2.jpg
You can see his signature in the lower left, under the TIE Fighter ish vehicle.

[matrix_ghost]

Speed Racer is also set to film in June. Considering how the last two Matrix films did I think WB will move Speed Racer to the open dates in May. Indy 4 may be terrible but the opening weekend will be huge and will have a much larger fanbase than a "Speed Racer" film.

They haven't casted anyone plus Joel Silver has said all the cars may be done by computers. They'll have a much longer post-production window than Indy 4 which is basically going to be editing and scoring.

True. However i think that the work has already been done ( in secret) on the VFX. With the matrix sequels early VFX tests etc were already done by 2000 with shooting beginning in 2001. Locations have already been scouted , reports say that just like with VfV , Speed Racer will be shot in berlin.
I dunno if they will use CGI cars or not , but assuming they will it means that they'll shoot mostly against a blue/green a la SW. That basically reduces you're shooting schedule alot. And their are still reports that Vince Vaughn is up for the role. So who knows...

As for Indy , so far all we know is that the script is now finished and that Harrison is ready. There's no word on other roles nor where the movie is going to be shot. Locations need to be scouted and sets need to be built. I defiatenly think Lucas and Spielberg are going to use the CGI to their advantage this time.

It'll be a tight race for both movies , but you are right in saying that Indy will have draw a bigger crowd. Simply cause it's better known.

[JackJupiter]

Excuse me Matrix ghost I just want to say that I agree that Indy does have the larger fanbase than Speed Racer But I have to disagree with u on it's opening weekend.
Indy 4 will open on May 23rd 08 same day as Speed Racer right? but before then Prince Caspian will open a week prior and Iron Man 3 weeks prior which with that many blockbuster films coming out in one month will hinder Indy 4 severely. Especially since The Indiana Jones franchise has'nt been able to make itself known on merchandise and other media than say the Star Wars franchise. But I will give it this my prediction will be that in the end the film will gross 250-300 million dollars worldwide.
By the way HOW ARE YOU DOING SAVA!!!

[Catman]

Bond is number one. Everyone knows that.

Well, it depends on who's voting. If Indy was voted #1 action hero that must mean that the voters were people who grew up with Indy in the `80s. Which makes sense since the `80s wasn't really a great decade for Bond.

Sure you had For Your Eyes Only and the Octopussy/Never Say Never Again competition of `83 but everything else wasn't that impressive. A View to a Kill was a movie many felt could have be done without Roger Moore. He was 60 and you can tell. The Living Daylights is like the worst Bond film ever. No offense to Dalton fans. And, License to Kill was a film no one (atleast in the U.S.) cared about in `89.

[matrix_ghost]

Excuse me Matrix ghost I just want to say that I agree that Indy does have the larger fanbase than Speed Racer But I have to disagree with u on it's opening weekend.

Okaayyy :huh: . I wasn't even talking about a opening weekend but whatever , it's a topic that can be discussed.


Indy 4 will open on May 23rd 08 same day as Speed Racer right? but before then Prince Caspian will open a week prior and Iron Man 3 weeks prior which with that many blockbuster films coming out in one month will hinder Indy 4 severely.
That is true. I don't know to what extent Iron Man will affect Indy's BO performance . I might get some flaming for this , but i don't think Iron Man is that well know with the general audience. True it's one of Marvel's bigger CB characters , but unlike Spiderman and Hulk it really didn't have any previous exposure to the General audience like the Hulk tv series or the SPiderman cartoons or even the X-men cartoons. At least to my knowledge...i never saw a Iron Man cartoon in my life. If the trailers do advertise it as a fun movie , it could get a similar reaction that Fantastic Four got.
However the big contender for Indy is Prince Caspian. I've never read any of the CS Lewis books and i'm sure many people haven't either. But the movie still was a massive hit domestic and internationally as well. It was just the first movie and it outgrossed Harry Potter on the domestic list and made 450 million or something WW. Those are big numbers and i'm sure alot of people are looking forward to the sequel.
The first Narnia movie was definately one where good word of mouth kept the movie going.
It can pose a big problem for Indy however if you look at Shrek 2 which fought competion from Day After Tomorrow and Harry Potter , it still made 400 million.



Especially since The Indiana Jones franchise has'nt been able to make itself known on merchandise and other media than say the Star Wars franchise. But I will give it this my prediction will be that in the end the film will gross 250-300 million dollars worldwide.

Well i think i'm going to be more optimistic about this.
If you compare the Indy franchise to the SW , you can see that the SW franchise can lead you into many directions.
The games which can go into any territory IMO ( everything from Clone Wars , to jedi knight , to sith knight etc) , books as well as the prequels helped the SW to keep in business.
What can you do with Indy ? Only a few games really .
But i still think that Indy can be huge. Really huge. It's still Indy and alot of people know who Indiana Jones is. Not to mention that it's release date is not only a domestic , but WW release date. That obviously helps in bringing in the $$$. And unlike SW , Indy is a continuation of the series meaning that you have all the familiar faces. With SW it was a prequel with new actors filling the roles of people like Alec McGuinnes , David Prowse etc. Not only that , as the series progressed you gradually get to meet the other characters such as Chewie and others.
You don't have that with Indy.

I do think that a 400 million mark for Indy is really easy WW with at least 200 million domestic.





That is IF one big factor does screw things up :
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/index.html
It takes place from June 7th to June 29th.
Combine that with a Hot Summer and you can forget movies will make money during that period in Europe.

[Shifty]

I'm hoping he's on board for IV. I'd see it just for him doing a poster. :up:
BTW, what are you talking about with the prequel trilogy? He did Ep. III:
http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/star_wars_episode_three_ver2.jpg
You can see his signature in the lower left, under the TIE Fighter ish vehicle.

He wasn't listed on IMDb. If someone went to the trouble to have him listed for I and II why not III? Good to know. That more or less confirms another classic poster by Drew.


In the release of The Phantom Menace, George Lucas dictated that, contractually, Struzan's poster was the only art the foreign distributors could use, and other than the text, it could not be modified in any way. With the dominating global release of that film in nearly every country on the planet, it is regarded that the Struzan poster is the single most viewed piece of art in history

[britrogue]

Eek! I'm getting all excited!

[Kevin Roegele]

Well, it depends on who's voting. If Indy was voted #1 action hero that must mean that the voters were people who grew up with Indy in the `80s. Which makes sense since the `80s wasn't really a great decade for Bond.

Sure you had For Your Eyes Only and the Octopussy/Never Say Never Again competition of `83 but everything else wasn't that impressive. A View to a Kill was a movie many felt could have be done without Roger Moore. He was 60 and you can tell. The Living Daylights is like the worst Bond film ever. No offense to Dalton fans. And, License to Kill was a film no one (atleast in the U.S.) cared about in `89.

The Living Daylights worst Bond film ever? Have you not seen Die Another Day?

And Roger Moore wasn't sixty in A View to a Kill! He was 56.

[Fried Gold]

The Living Daylights is like the worst Bond film ever. No offense to Dalton fans.Oh, don't be so silly. It's quite clearly Moonraker.

[Sava]

The Living Daylights worst Bond film ever? Have you not seen Die Another Day?

agreed, Die Another Day was s**t...just pure s**t.

[Fried Gold]

agreed, Die Another Day was s**t...just pure s**t.Yeah, when I say that Moonraker is the worst, I'm by no means saying that Die Another Day is any better. Having said that, I quite like the car chase on ice sequence.

[Kevin Roegele]

Yeah, when I say that Moonraker is the worst, I'm by no means saying that Die Another Day is any better.

LOL, you said the worst is, "quite clearly Moonraker." By that definition, Die Another Day is clearly not as bad. ;)

[Fried Gold]

LOL, you said the worst is, "quite clearly Moonraker." By that definition, Die Another Day is clearly not as bad. ;)And cancer isn't 'as bad' as AIDS.

[britrogue]

Die Another Day sucked. Period. Living Daylights was much better

[Hunter Rider]

I find Moonraker ok until after the Cable car sequence

We should be getting some Indy 4 casting soon i think:woot:

[AssMan]

And their are still reports that Vince Vaughn is up for the role. So who knows

I thought Keanu Reeves was confirmed to be Speed Racer ?

[Mr Jide]

Bond is number one. Everyone knows that.

Amen. That is why Connery was cast to play Jones Sr. Which character is more adventurous and the head honcho when it comes to action? Why, Bond of course and who is the best Bond??

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/007/dn-1-0823-james-bond.jpg

[Fried Gold]

I find Moonraker ok until after the Cable car sequence

We should be getting some Indy 4 casting soon i think:woot:Dude, the pre-credits sequence has Jaws flapping his arms trying to fly, immediately destroying any residual menace from TSWLM.

[britrogue]

We should be getting some Indy 4 casting soon i think:woot:

I hope so

[Kevin Roegele]

And cancer isn't 'as bad' as AIDS.

I don't know how we got to this in an Indy thread, but AIDS in itself isn't as bad as cancer. As long as you lived in a vacuum. Obviously you couldn't, but you know what I mean.

[Kevin Roegele]

Die Another Day sucked. Period. Living Daylights was much better

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/b0/007TLDposter.jpg

Classic Bond.

[Agentsands77]

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is actually one of the best films in the franchise, and is responsible for rescuing the series from self-parody (unfortunately, DIE ANOTHER DAY brought it back there).

[Joe Kerr]

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is actually one of the best films in the franchise, and is responsible for rescuing the series from self-parody (unfortunately, DIE ANOTHER DAY brought it back there).

... but Casino Royale brought it back yet again... :D

[Sava]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/b0/007TLDposter.jpg

Classic Bond.

dear god, thats a great poster :eek: :up:

[Agentsands77]

... but Casino Royale brought it back yet again... :D
And thank god for that.

[Kevin Roegele]

... but Casino Royale brought it back yet again... :D

Exactly. Bond goes through cycles of getting too over-the-top, then getting serious again, lightening up, and so on. You have the quite ridiculous You Only Live Twice followed by the (relatively) down-to-earth On Her Majesty's Secret Service, the literally out-of-this-world Moonraker and then the sober thrills of For Your Eyes Only, the cartoonish A View to a Kill followed by the serious The Living Daylights, and then, as stated, the ultimate travesty that is Die Another Day followed, like a pheonix from the flames, by Casino Royale.

[Catman]

The Living Daylights worst Bond film ever? Have you not seen Die Another Day?

Die Another Day was bad, but atleast it did not have that horrible ending where Jon Don Baker attacks Bond with toys. :dry:

And Roger Moore wasn't sixty in A View to a Kill! He was 56.

He looked 60.

Oh, don't be so silly. It's quite clearly Moonraker.

Moonraker is crap, but it had its moments.

agreed, Die Another Day was s**t...just pure s**t.

The beginning of the movie was good. I mean the scenes where Bond is a prisoner and when he's at that hospital. After that the movie turns into garbage.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/b0/007TLDposter.jpg

Classic Bond.

Classic crap, actually. The Living Daylights had the worst Bond villain EVER in the form of Jon Don Baker in his silly toys. It also had the ugliest Bond girl ever. I know someone will quickly say, "what about the black chick from A View to a Kill." That black chick is Grace Jones and her character's name is May Day. And, she is the ugliest Bond girl villain. Also, Dalton was pretty weak in the movie. He was taking the part WAY too seriously. He was better in License to Kill since the movie was written with him in mind.

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is actually one of the best films in the franchise, and is responsible for rescuing the series from self-parody

Too bad the next film, License to Kill, was ignored by American audiences at the time. So much for rescuing the franchise, huh?

dear god, thats a great poster :eek: :up:

That's something I can agree about.

Exactly. Bond goes through cycles of getting too over-the-top, then getting serious again, lightening up, and so on.

Thats what I keep telling people at the Bond 22 board. People think Casino Royale changed the franchise and we can expect each film to be like that. When in fact when we least expect it it'll get over the top again.

You have the quite ridiculous You Only Live Twice followed by the (relatively) down-to-earth On Her Majesty's Secret Service, the literally out-of-this-world Moonraker and then the sober thrills of For Your Eyes Only, the cartoonish A View to a Kill followed by the serious The Living Daylights, and then, as stated, the ultimate travesty that is Die Another Day followed, like a pheonix from the flames, by Casino Royale.

You Only Live Twice is classic Bond. People just hate it now cause Austin Powers has spoofed it.

[green]

http://www.cinematical.com/
A bit from Darabont

And on the Indy 4 script he wrote, which was tossed aside by George Lucas? "It was a wasted year or more of my life, and I only have so many years to devote....Steven was ecstatic. We both were. It was going to be his next film. He told me it was the best script he'd read since Raiders of the Lost Ark. That's a quote......then George Lucas read it, didn't like it, and threw ice water on the whole thing......Steven and I looked like accident victims the day we got that call.....it was emotionally devastating."

ouch, I hope the script gets leaked at some point.

[Catman]

^ That has been posted before.

[green]

I figured as much, oh well.

[Shifty]

^ That has been posted before.

If the script is the best Steven has seen in over 20 years, Frank should take that script and change the characters/some scenes to and still get it made as a non-Indy film. Even if the changes weaken the film, a script that is weaker than Raiders is still a very good script.

[Shifty]

Excuse me Matrix ghost I just want to say that I agree that Indy does have the larger fanbase than Speed Racer But I have to disagree with u on it's opening weekend.
Indy 4 will open on May 23rd 08 same day as Speed Racer right? but before then Prince Caspian will open a week prior and Iron Man 3 weeks prior which with that many blockbuster films coming out in one month will hinder Indy 4 severely. Especially since The Indiana Jones franchise has'nt been able to make itself known on merchandise and other media than say the Star Wars franchise. But I will give it this my prediction will be that in the end the film will gross 250-300 million dollars worldwide.
By the way HOW ARE YOU DOING SAVA!!!

Indy 4 comes out on May 22. So that gives them midnight screenings plus maybe $35 million + on the Thursday and then Memorial Day Weekend kicks in. Episode III made $50+ million on their opening day on a Thursday. Speed Racer could be 2008's Posideon. There still is a Friday in May that is open, Paramount could've picked that one but they were aggressive and moved it to the Thursday.

May 2
- Iron Man

May 9
?

May 16
- The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

May 22
- Fourth Installment of the Indiana Jones Adventures

May 23
- Speed Racer

[Catman]

If the script is the best Steven has seen in over 20 years, Frank should take that script and change the characters/some scenes to and still get it made as a non-Indy film. Even if the changes weaken the film, a script that is weaker than Raiders is still a very good script.

I'm sure he thought of that, but Evil Lucas probably owns the script and won't let him do that.

[Shifty]

May 2
- Iron Man

May 9
?

May 16
- The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

May 22
- Fourth Installment of the Indiana Jones Adventures

May 23
- Speed Racer

Strange how no CGI animated movie or even a kids movie has been called yet. Horton Hears A Who (Jim Carrey/Steve Carell) is out in the spring and could be bumped back to May 9. Hoodwinked 2 is out in January '08. And then the other animated movies already have summer or fall release dates.

[Catman]

Strange how no CGI animated movie or even a kids movie has been called yet.

Iron Man, Narnia, and Indy are kid-friendly movies. And, Speed Racer is based on a classic anime. So, I guess that's the reason.

[Shifty]

Iron Man, Narnia, and Indy are kid-friendly movies. And, Speed Racer is based on a classic anime. So, I guess that's the reason.

Well more like Madagascar and Over the Hedge, films where six year olds can be entertained while the adults can still get by, seeing how its 90 minutes long. Iron Man will probably be PG-13, Joel Silver originally wanted Speed Racer to be Rated R but its now going to be PG-13, Narnia is Narnia so the only 6 six year olds will be Christians and Indy is a solid PG-13. So a real animated film for those 10 and under, that even 10 or older can enjoy, is missing.

[Catman]

Well more like Madagascar and Over the Hedge, films where six year olds can be entertained while the adults can still get by, seeing how its 90 minutes long. Iron Man will probably be PG-13, Joel Silver originally wanted Speed Racer to be Rated R but its now going to be PG-13, Narnia is Narnia so the only 6 six year olds will be Christians and Indy is a solid PG-13. So a real animated film for those 10 and under, that even 10 or older can enjoy, is missing.

I see where you are coming from, but I think kids can handle some cool live-action movies. Back in the `80s every kids favorite movie was the Star Wars trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., The Goonies, Back to the Future, Batman, etc.

I love cartoons as much as the next person, but sometimes live-action stuff is cooler. If Iron Man and Indy IV have a lot of cool action scenes kids will like it.

[Shifty]

I see where you are coming from, but I think kids can handle some cool live-action movies. Back in the `80s every kids favorite movie was the Star Wars trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., The Goonies, Back to the Future, Batman, etc.

I love cartoons as much as the next person, but sometimes live-action stuff is cooler. If Iron Man and Indy IV have a lot of cool action scenes kids will like it.

No doubt, just that there is an audience that isn't being attended too. So Indy IV and all the other films in May will probably get some more competition. 15-25 years ago Disney was the only one pumping out animated movies every few years to eventually every year and now for kids the the animated movie is a marketed "must see event" with ass loads of tie ins and merchandise that happens every month in the summer.

[Hunter Rider]

Speed Racer will move to May 9th IMO

[Kevin Roegele]

Die Another Day was bad, but atleast it did not have that horrible ending where Jon Don Baker attacks Bond with toys.

No, he attacks Bond with military souvenirs and memorobilia. Anyway, you're saying that makes it worse than the entire two hours of misery that is Die Another Day? The Living Daylights does not have..

- Woeful PlayStation 1 quality CGI (Daylights has superb model work)
- Embarassing 'Matrix' style camera work
- Halle Berry trying to come across as a martial artist. Guys, we had Michelle Yeoh a few films ago, we're not stupid
- a climax with Bond fighting RoboCop on a CGI plane. One of the WORST FIGHT SCENES EVER. Go back and watch it, it absolutely terrible. Compare this with the genuinely incredible and dangerous fight scene on the back of a plane in The Living Daylights.



You Only Live Twice is classic Bond. People just hate it now cause Austin Powers has spoofed it.

Nobody said anything about hating it, I simply said it was ridiculous, and it is, and that's why Austin Powers spoofs it.

[Hunter Rider]

This would make a good debate thread in the Bond section guys;)

[Kevin Roegele]

This would make a good debate thread in the Bond section guys;)

Yeah, if only we had one......oh well.....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, if only we had one......oh well.....:huh::oldrazz:

[Kevin Roegele]

:huh::oldrazz:

lol

[Agentsands77]

Too bad the next film, License to Kill, was ignored by American audiences at the time. So much for rescuing the franchise, huh?
Without THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENCE TO KILL, GOLDENEYE would never have been made the way it was. GOLDENEYE is essentially the third Dalton film, just with a little Roger Moore thrown in.

Thats what I keep telling people at the Bond 22 board. People think Casino Royale changed the franchise and we can expect each film to be like that. When in fact when we least expect it it'll get over the top again.
But the changes have never been unexpected. The fantastic Bonds have always been anticipated. It's not like the direction changes in the franchise came out of nowhere.

And there's a good case to be made for CASINO ROYALE being an altogether different situation than we've had with the franchise in the past.

[Kevin Roegele]

Without THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENCE TO KILL, GOLDENEYE would never have been made the way it was. GOLDENEYE is essentially the third Dalton film, just with a little Roger Moore thrown in.

Preach it brother! GoldenEye was written for Monsieur Dalton. The stuff on the beach - "It's what keeps me alive," "No, it's what keeps you alone" - is pure Dalton.

[Kevin Roegele]

Here's one for you, when was the last time Harrison Ford played Indiana Jones?


Wrong. It was 1993, in Young Indiana Jones.


http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/ford.jpg

Watch this clip and shake your head in amazement/bemusement....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwEIs5_z7E

I hope Indy's main method of attack in the new movie won't be to cause a snowslide with a saxophone.

[Agentsands77]

I remember that episode. That moment is really quite terrible.

[Shifty]

I remember that episode. That moment is really quite terrible.

Yes, why would Harrison come back to do that as a cameo? That was still 13.5 years ago.
I missed the last season of the show. :csad:

[Hunter Rider]

I like the bearded look:up:

[Shifty]

Excuse me Matrix ghost I just want to say that I agree that Indy does have the larger fanbase than Speed Racer But I have to disagree with u on it's opening weekend.
Indy 4 will open on May 23rd 08 same day as Speed Racer right? but before then Prince Caspian will open a week prior and Iron Man 3 weeks prior which with that many blockbuster films coming out in one month will hinder Indy 4 severely. Especially since The Indiana Jones franchise has'nt been able to make itself known on merchandise and other media than say the Star Wars franchise. !

Family Guy keeps on putting out the Indiana Jones parodies.

Sampling (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=indiana+jones+family+guy&search=Search)

Plus the TV series will be released on DVD, a trailer this holiday season will wake all the dormant Indy fans.

[Furious Styles]

Too bad the next film, License to Kill, was ignored by American audiences at the time. So much for rescuing the franchise, huh?

Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade was one of the reasons LTK underperformed at the box office. Along with B'89 and a slew of other box office juggernauts, it was going to be difficult for Dalton to conquer the box office that year.

Along with a ridiculous, muddled marketing campaign and summer time release date, EON and company have since learned their lesson. They did not make the same mistake with Brosnan and Craig that they made with Dalton and LTK.

But I don't think that is an indicator of Dalton's performance as Bond. Although LTK garners very distinct reactions within the Bond fan community, LTK has been given a second look since Craig's performance and I think people should be willing to re-examine the parameters through which they view Bond.

To disregard Dalton's portrayal as Bond because of a low box office yield in 1989 is, how shall I word it, bollocks!

[Shifty]

Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade was one of the reasons LTK underperformed at the box office. Along with B'89 and a slew of other box office juggernauts, it was going to be difficult for Dalton to conquer the box office that year.

Along with a ridiculous, muddled marketing campaign and summer time release date, EON and company have since learned their lesson. They did not make the same mistake with Brosnan and Craig that they made with Dalton and LTK.

But I don't think that is an indicator of Dalton's performance as Bond. Although LTK garners very distinct reactions within the Bond fan community, LTK has been given a second look since Craig's performance and I think people should be willing to re-examine the parameters through which they view Bond.

To disregard Dalton's portrayal as Bond because of a low box office yield in 1989 is, how shall I word it, bollocks!

Here is when Last Crusade enters the 1989 box office, click on next weekend link and watch it hang in there while others parish (Star Trek V, LTK).
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=&yr=1989&wknd=21a&p=.htm

Indy 3 was already out for 2 months, Ghostbusters II was out for 5 weeks, Batman for 1 month, Lethal Weapon 2 was in its second weekend. In its second weekend LTK had no new competiton and still fell 41%. I dunno about that argument. The other stronger movies only had a 25% or less drop offs. How bad was the marketing?

[ChrisBaleBatman]

That clip made me want to go blind.

Seriosuly.....it was hard to watch. The small fight didn't make much sense....and why carry a gun if u won't load it? And why believe him when he says it isn't loaded? And why a sax? Why.....Christ....I'll be here all day....

[Tojo]

Guys, does anybody see any value in Indy 4 getting it's own board? Bond did, so i don' see why this can't. Or am i missing something?

[Tojo]

Spielberg seems to be the sort of filmmaker who uses the right tool for the right job, not just CG easier. Personally, I'm hoping it will have very little CG, just to have more of the feel of the first movies.

Love that avvy. Picard's the man. :up:

well we know Lucas was adamant this be shot on digital, but Spielberg refused as he prefers film. Sooo, with Spielberg at the helm i am hopeful that there will be little CGI, not that shooting on digital means CGI has to be included though. It is apparent that it is unnecesary to include MAJOR CGI upon watching the old Indy films. However, the problem may be that, just like the SW:OT, the Indy films look dated, while charming at the same time, and that modern audiences will not accept any sort of ''horror movie-esque'' props.

My only worry is that if it includes CGI it will lose much of it's predeccesors charm. Look how flat and charmless the new star wars trilogy looks compared to the OT. Using CGI for touch-ups is fine, but anything more really has a negative impact on a film imo.


Other worries include Spielberg and the writers allegedley being dubious about Lucas's maguffin, or mcmuffing or whatever the hell that thing is.

[Hunter Rider]

Catman i moved your post to the Living Daylights thread in the Bond section

Guys, does anybody see any value in Indy 4 getting it's own board? Bond did, so i don' see why this can't. Or am i missing something?

It was asked before and turned down

[Catman]

Guys, does anybody see any value in Indy 4 getting it's own board? Bond did, so i don' see why this can't. Or am i missing something?

I wouldn't be surprised if we got one when production starts.

Catman i moved your post to the Living Daylights thread in the Bond section

Cool.

[Fried Gold]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/b0/007TLDposter.jpg

Classic Bond.I had that poster in my room at college.

[Road Warrior]

Here's one for you, when was the last time Harrison Ford played Indiana Jones?


Wrong. It was 1993, in Young Indiana Jones.


http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/ford.jpg

Watch this clip and shake your head in amazement/bemusement....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwEIs5_z7E

I hope Indy's main method of attack in the new movie won't be to cause a snowslide with a saxophone.

Thank you for reminding me why I never got into the Young Indiana Jones series.

[britrogue]

I still haven't figured out why Harrison agreed to do that cameo

[Road Warrior]

I still haven't figured out why Harrison agreed to do that cameo

He was filming the Fugitive, I believe.

[Tojo]

It was asked before and turned down

Was it asked recently or before the film was confirmed?

I would not understand if it was refused now, because how is this any different to Bond? JB isn't a comic book either, and while a more lucrative and vast franchise to Indiana Jones it is no more loved or important in the geek community. It is also greatly admired by normal people too.

[Fried Gold]

I still haven't figured out why Harrison agreed to do that cameoPossibly because he loves the character?

[Hunter Rider]

Was it asked recently or before the film was confirmed?

I would not understand if it was refused now, because how is this any different to Bond? JB isn't a comic book either, and while a more lucrative and vast franchise to Indiana Jones it is no more loved or important in the geek community. It is also greatly admired by normal people too.
It was asked recently in tech support,the reason that Bond got a board was due to the relationship SHH had with that movie on scoops and such from what i was told

[Fried Gold]

Why has my post been deleted?

[Hunter Rider]

Why has my post been deleted?

The Living Daylights discussion has been moved to the Living Daylights thread in the Bond section

[Kevin Roegele]

He was filming the Fugitive, I believe.

You mean he was filming The Fugitive and recieved a heavy blow to the head which made him temporarily lose his memory and stagger around in a daze, at which point Lucas pounced and convinced him he was the star of a half-assed cash-in TV show that nobody watched?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

i think its a great idea..even if he did seem out of place..

[Road Warrior]

You mean he was filming The Fugitive and recieved a heavy blow to the head which made him temporarily lose his memory and stagger around in a daze, at which point Lucas pounced and convinced him he was the star of a half-assed cash-in TV show that nobody watched?

Can you now explain how he made the Star Wars Holiday Special?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnVcbWQ2cg

[Kevin Roegele]

Can you now explain how he made the Star Wars Holiday Special?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnVcbWQ2cg

Only Lucas can explain that, preferably in a court of law. :up:

[Catman]

I'm surprised no one has edited the Holiday Special into the original trilogy. It would make for an entertaining watch. :D

[britrogue]

Can you now explain how he made the Star Wars Holiday Special?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnVcbWQ2cg


I don't know, but god damn does he look good in it!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Can you now explain how he made the Star Wars Holiday Special?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnVcbWQ2cg



I can,dollar signs and lots of them.

[Road Warrior]

I can,dollar signs and lots of them.

I can't wait for the DVD release! ;)

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

gives you something to look forward to huh.

:D

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18991

Shia LaBeouf in Indiana Jones 4?
Source: Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31628)
February 18, 2007


Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31628) is reporting a rumor that Disturbia (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=14352) and Transformers (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8437) star Shia LaBeouf might play the role of Indiana Jones' son in the fourth installment (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665):

The thing is, we know Spielberg loves La Beouf right now. DISTURBIA became a pet project for The Beard, and it evidently came out well. TRANSFORMERS is a big deal for the company, and a lot of the weight of that falls squarely on the shoulders of Shia. So as much as I pray that there's no Indy Jr., I’m starting to think that this may in fact be true.

The fourth film has been scheduled for a May 22, 2008 release.

[L0ngsh0t]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18991

Shia LaBeouf in Indiana Jones 4?
Source: Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31628)
February 18, 2007


Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31628) is reporting a rumor that Disturbia (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=14352) and Transformers (http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8437) star Shia LaBeouf might play the role of Indiana Jones' son in the fourth installment (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665):

The thing is, we know Spielberg loves La Beouf right now. DISTURBIA became a pet project for The Beard, and it evidently came out well. TRANSFORMERS is a big deal for the company, and a lot of the weight of that falls squarely on the shoulders of Shia. So as much as I pray that there's no Indy Jr., I’m starting to think that this may in fact be true.

The fourth film has been scheduled for a May 22, 2008 release.


He is a good actor, but he is the Dakota Fanning of a couple years ago, when ever someone needs a 20 year old they get him

I get a little sick of him

though he is good

A Guide to recognizing your saints was awesome

[Catman]

I have faith in Spielberg!

[L0ngsh0t]

I have faith in Spielberg!

Oh me too, and Shia is an awesome actor, and this movie is gunna own

alls i am saying is whenever someone needs a 16-20 year old, they get Shia, so he is in about 10 billion movies a year, I get a little board with him, maybe by 08 it won't be that bad

[Catman]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/raiders_of_the_lost_ark/_group_photos/harrison_ford3.jpg
Have faith!

[Hunter Rider]

I preferred the rumour of Natalie Portman as his daughter but Shia is cool and i wouldn't mind him in this although this is simialr to the idea for the Mummy 3

[L0ngsh0t]

I preferred the rumour of Natalie Portman as his daughter but Shia is cool and i wouldn't mind him in this although this is simialr to the idea for the Mummy 3

Kinda

[Backdrifter]

See, told ya. Just another reason why this movie is not needed.

[Jspider13]

Shia is not worthy of Spielberg! :mad:

[AssMan]

Shia is in just about everything these days. Is his pay check cheap ? Dont get me wrong hes cool & I like him as an actor but damn hes in almost everything thats big :o

[L0ngsh0t]

Shia is not worthy of Spielberg! :mad:

Please, he is probably the best actor around that is his age

And Spielberg is one of the best directors around, I think they will do right by each other

[matrix_ghost]

Shia in Indy .
Oh god no :csad: .
The first signs of the apocalypse have arrived.

My god can't they cast someone better. I hated his performance in Constantine . They got the essence of Constantine right , despite the chances but my god did i hate what they 1) did to Chas and 2) Shia as Chas.

Same goes for his performance in I,ROBOT. An already crappy movie stunk even more with his performance.

My only complaint with Transformers is him being in the movie as a lead.

Please let this not be true.:csad:

[Catman]

Shia is not worthy of Spielberg! :mad:


Neither was Short Round and we all grew to love him! :cmad: IN TWO MOVIES!

Goonies never say die! :cmad:

[Catman]

http://users.javanet.com/u/m/umlaut/short-round.jpg

[Threshold]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. This is sounding a lot more like "Last Crusade" than it is "Raiders of the Lost Ark".

Oh, I have faith in Spielberg. But the Star Wars prequels taught me to be wary of anything related to George Lucas.

[Catman]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. This is sounding a lot more like "Last Crusade" than it is "Raiders of the Lost Ark".

So what? Last Crusade was awesome!

Oh, I have faith in Spielberg. But the Star Wars prequels taught me to be wary of anything related to George Lucas.

Spielberg was making awesome Indiana Jones movies while Lucas was making Ewoks movies and Howard the Duck.

[PhotoJones]

Spielberg was making awesome Indiana Jones movies while Lucas was making Ewoks movies and Howard the Duck.

dizzamn straight!

[Threshold]

Any movie where George Lucas has veto rights has a big red flag waving...

[PhotoJones]

Any movie where George Lucas has veto rights has a big red flag waving...

i don't understand how he went from a rising star to cranking out ****. does he have a mental illness?

[Catman]

Any movie where George Lucas has veto rights has a big red flag waving...

Once they start production, Spielberg does whatever he wants. Lucas isn't even on set everyday. Didn't you see on the DVD how Lucas was at the states while Harrison Ford got injured during Temple of Doom. So, when Lucas isn't breathing down their throats they do whatever they want.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

So what? Last Crusade was awesome!


No, it wasn't. It was a mediocre ending to a great series. Temple of Doom runs circles around LC in about every respect.

And anyone who thinks this Shia LaPoof in Indy business is any good needs a head examination, stat.

[britrogue]

Last Crusade was definately my least favourite of the trilogy

[Fried Gold]

No, it wasn't. It was a mediocre ending to a great series. Temple of Doom runs circles around LC in about every respect.ERRONEOUS. Whilst Last Crusade is the weakest, it's by no means the cinematic abortion that you're painting here.

[Threshold]

i don't understand how he went from a rising star to cranking out ****. does he have a mental illness?

George Lucas was a rising star anytime recently?

[britrogue]

ERRONEOUS. Whilst Last Crusade is the weakest, it's by no means the cinematic abortion that you're painting here.

I agree. It's still a damn good film.

[Lord Valumart]

i always felt temple of doom was the weakest....

radiers is still my favourate though:yay:

[Hunter Rider]

No, it wasn't. It was a mediocre ending to a great series. Temple of Doom runs circles around LC in about every respect.

And anyone who thinks this Shia LaPoof in Indy business is any good needs a head examination, stat.

Where to start........firstly that is your opinion,i personally prefer TOD myself but i like most think Last Crusade is an excellent movie and our TOD opinion is the minority

The second part of your post is stupid and beneath you

[sithgoblin]

The general consensus of the public and critics and historians is that Temple is the weakest. You're entitled to your opinion, SolidSnakeMGS, but don't go round touting it as fact.

[Sava]

i wouldn't mind seeing Shia in an Indy movie.

[Movies205]

The general consensus of the public and critics and historians is that Temple is the weakest. You're entitled to your opinion, SolidSnakeMGS, but don't go round touting it as fact.

Nice Avy :)

[Warhammer]

I like Shia.
Even though I would maybe pass on seeing a son, a son could make the film more interesting, and Shia is good, IMO.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

ERRONEOUS. Whilst Last Crusade is the weakest, it's by no means the cinematic abortion that you're painting here.

What's erroneous is your definition of the word mediocre, and that it equates in movie rating terms with being a "cinematic abortion".

The second part of your post is stupid and beneath you

I stand by it and I don't see how its stupid. I despise the boy and this whole thing is a rumor that will never happen. It will disappear....poof! I don't think we need another Indy movie. The last one was bad because it was to self-aware, and was a departure from the b-movie spirit of the originals. This one can only be worse, in that regard.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

The general consensus of the public and critics and historians is that Temple is the weakest. You're entitled to your opinion, SolidSnakeMGS, but don't go round touting it as fact.

Point me to my post where I said "TEMPLE OF DOOM IS BETTER, AND THAT'S A FACT!!!"

Oh right. You can't.

Its funny when someone disagrees with you, and in an attempt to discredit your opinion, they act like you are touting your opinion as a fact. You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of, friend.

And as far as the public and historians and astronomers and whoever else you want to throw in there, that doesn't affect my opinion nor lower it.

I personally know a lot of people that feel the same as me. Last Crusade, while a good movie, is a watered down Indiana Jones movie. It was written by a subpar writer, and filled with too many personal moments that dragged the whole movie down.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't like heroes with sons.:down

[Hunter Rider]

I stand by it and I don't see how its stupid. I despise the boy and this whole thing is a rumor that will never happen. It will disappear....poof! I don't think we need another Indy movie. The last one was bad because it was to self-aware, and was a departure from the b-movie spirit of the originals. This one can only be worse, in that regard.

i wasn't debating the point with you and i'm not worried that you don't want this movie or like Last crusade and see it as "Self aware" what i do have a problem with is you insulting a whole thread of posters,that wasn't up for debate i was letting you know to watch it

[Cinemaman]

http://latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1488


Shia LaBeouf In Indy 4
Date: February 18, 2007

By: Kellvin Chavez
Source: Latino Review


I've gotten a few phone calls today regarding the rumor flying around the net about Shia LaBeouf being cast in the upcoming Indiana Jones Adventure (http://latinoreview.com/filmpreview.php?id=776).

I can tell you that it's not a rumor!

In fact, two weeks ago we posted the story below. But after a few minutes being up, I was told to take the story down. I don't really want to share the story, but I feel I have to say something. Essentially, I was told, Kellvin, you have to give something up. Either you take down the story or we won't be working with you anymore.

Here is the story in question:


I had a chance to speak to Shia LaBeouf a few weeks ago here in NYC and I asked him what he was working on next now that he's rapped TRANSFORMERS. Shia replied something like this: “I can't really say because.... put it this way, I'm trying to work something out to be in the next Steven Spielberg movie.”

Which Spielberg movie is it? Well let's do some math. Spielberg is working on two projects, Lincoln and Indy IV. Lincoln is the Abraham Lincoln biopic and we all know about Indy IV.

When I pressed him if it was Lincoln, Shia laughed it off. He just gave me a look saying “NO WAY!" Then when I asked him point blank if it was Indy IV. He put on a devilish smile and said “I'm trying to work it out. I don't want to loose the role to another actor so I really can't say much but it will be announced very soon.”

Even more, my guy in L.A., who isn't very liked at the moment, EL MAYIMBE has spotted Shia at the Gym working out like a mad man.

Would Shia being working his ass off for a role in Lincoln? Unlikely.

A few days later our sources said that Steven loves Shia and that he's up for one of two roles, either Indy's son or a faithful sidekick.

Could he be Indy's son? Considering the rumor that one of the rejected scripts did see Indy with a son from a liaison with Marion back in Raiders, it could happen. But it would make sense, considering Shia was born in 1986 and Raiders was released in 1981, if a fling with Willie in Temple created a Jones offspring, which was released in 1984, a bit closer to Shia's birth year.

Expect an announcement soon.
This report went up for a minute two weeks ago before it was taken down and now has been broken by AICN (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31628). I'm not hating on AICN at all. I'm pissed that I took it down and tried to play nice only to lose a great scoop. It sucks to do this to my sources as well, who share these scoops with us because they believe in us. Should this be what happens when someone tries to play nice? I don't think so either. So from now on, I will not play nice.

[Jspider13]

http://users.javanet.com/u/m/umlaut/short-round.jpg

how dare you compare shia to short round... :mad:

[Kevin Roegele]

how dare you compare shia to short round... :mad:

Short Round is the ultimate psuedo-son/kid sidekick; he drives cars while you shoot at chasing vehicles; he tells people to call you 'doctor'; and he tells women to leave you alone when you're trying to get to sleep.

[Threshold]

Short Round is the ultimate psuedo-son/kid sidekick; he drives cars while you shoot at chasing vehicles; he tells people to call you 'doctor'; and he tells women to leave you alone when you're trying to get to sleep.

I love Short Round. I totally wished I was friends with him as a kid. He'd have to have his Indy attitude and his Goonies gadgets!

[Catman]

No, it wasn't. It was a mediocre ending to a great series. Temple of Doom runs circles around LC in about every respect.

All three Indy films were great, but...to each his own.

i always felt temple of doom was the weakest....

All three were great, but yeah, definitly the weakest.

how dare you compare shia to short round... :mad:

Shia is a 20-year-old Goonie. :o

Short Round is the ultimate psuedo-son/kid sidekick; he drives cars while you shoot at chasing vehicles; he tells people to call you 'doctor'; and he tells women to leave you alone when you're trying to get to sleep.

:D

I love Short Round. I totally wished I was friends with him as a kid. He'd have to have his Indy attitude and his Goonies gadgets!

I know, dude! Short Round would be the popular kid in school.

[sithgoblin]

Point me to my post where I said "TEMPLE OF DOOM IS BETTER, AND THAT'S A FACT!!!"

Oh right. You can't.

Its funny when someone disagrees with you, and in an attempt to discredit your opinion, they act like you are touting your opinion as a fact. You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of, friend.

And as far as the public and historians and astronomers and whoever else you want to throw in there, that doesn't affect my opinion nor lower it.

I personally know a lot of people that feel the same as me. Last Crusade, while a good movie, is a watered down Indiana Jones movie. It was written by a subpar writer, and filled with too many personal moments that dragged the whole movie down.
my opinion is fact. and temple of doom turned indiana jones into an awkward combo of stupid slapstick and dark suject matter. it didn't have the balance of the first and last.

[Fried Gold]

EDIT: Nevermind.

[Fried Gold]

What's erroneous is your definition of the word mediocre, and that it equates in movie rating terms with being a "cinematic abortion".So what you're saying is that a mediocre film is not a cinematic abortion?

[britrogue]

I loved Short Round. They should bring him back! LOL

[green]

Im so back and forth on this movie. I dont think its needed yet Im kinda excited, then I hear this and Im over it again. Nothing against Shia but the inclusion of a kid, it's been done and seems like just an attmept for a future franchise.

[The Chairman]

Last Crusade is easily the best of the three. Best character develoment, best action sequence, best pacing, and one of the most tense climaxes in movie history.

And I don't understand the hate toward Temple Of Doom. Yeah, it's the weakest, but it's still one of the best adventure movies ever.

[Hunter Rider]

Im so back and forth on this movie. I dont think its needed yet Im kinda excited, then I hear this and Im over it again. Nothing against Shia but the inclusion of a kid, it's been done and seems like just an attmept for a future franchise.

Yet when they gave Supes a kid it was ok:o:oldrazz:

[The Chairman]

Yet when they gave Supes a kid it was ok:o:oldrazz:

I preferred the rumor that Natalie Portman was going to be Indy's daughter. :csad:

[green]

Yet when they gave Supes a kid it was ok:o:oldrazz:

It wasnt ok but it was suprisingly well done IMO.:cmad: :oldrazz:

I would have preferred he had a daughter if they were gonna go this route. I think the dynamic of him dealing with a girl would be more awkward and interesting.

[Hunter Rider]

I preferred the rumor that Natalie Portman was going to be Indy's daughter. :csad:

As did i but i think Shia can be good and like anything it's how it is executed that matters IMO

To follow green's comment about being done before,how many quests for a powerful object has there been ? how many time travel concept movies have there been ? how many times has some agent/cop stopped terrorists ? it's all about how the director and actors execute the concept

[Hunter Rider]

It wasnt ok but it was suprisingly well done IMO.:cmad: :oldrazz:

I would have preferred he had a daughter if they were gonna go this route. I think the dynamic of him dealing with a girl would be more awkward and interesting.

See my post to ANTONY:cwink: They may have felt that using a daughter would be to Tomb Raider

[Speedball]

Why not give Indy a son and a daughter?

[The Chairman]

As did i but i think Shia can be good and like anything it's how it is executed that matters IMO

To follow green's comment about being done before,how many quests for a powerful object has there been ? how many time travel concept movies have there been ? how many times has some agent/cop stopped terrorists ? it's all about how the director and actors execute the concept

I really just don't like Shia. At all. I liked him in Holes, but that's it.

[green]

As did i but i think Shia can be good and like anything it's how it is executed that matters IMO

To follow green's comment about being done before,how many quests for a powerful object has there been ? how many time travel concept movies have there been ? how many times has some agent/cop stopped terrorists ? it's all about how the director and actors execute the concept

Oh but come on...Spielberg and kids, you know I love his work but he always has to throw that kid in there and IMO the dynamic is usually always pretty similar.

[Hunter Rider]

Why not give Indy a son and a daughter?

Someone will brand it Incestiana Jones:csad:

I really just don't like Shia. At all. I liked him in Holes, but that's it.

Fair enough

Oh but come on...Spielberg and kids, you know I love his work but he always has to throw that kid in there and IMO the dynamic is usually always pretty similar.

Other than the son in WOTW i can't really think of any Spielberg movies with a father/son dynamic with a guy Shia's age:huh:

[Speedball]

Someone will brand it Incestiana Jones:csad:



Fair enough



Other than the son in WOTW i can't really think of any Spielberg movies with a father/son dynamic with a guy Shia's age:huh:
Oh C'mon.
Natalie Portman can be Shia's older sister.
It's not like it's gonna be Star Wars, where they didn't know.
It'll be like Jurassic Park.

[green]

Other than the son in WOTW i can't really think of any Spielberg movies with a father/son dynamic with a guy Shia's age:huh:

It's not really about age though...
anyway we are getting way ahead of ourselves, for all we know he could turn out to be one of Indy's students and not his son. Although if it is his son I wonder if he'll be Marion's or Willie's.

[Hunter Rider]

Oh C'mon.
Natalie Portman can be Shia's older sister.
It's not like it's gonna be Star Wars, where they didn't know.
It'll be like Jurassic Park.

It was a joke:huh::csad:

[Hunter Rider]

It's not really about age though...
anyway we are getting way ahead of ourselves, for all we know he could turn out to be one of Indy's students and not his son. Although if it is his son I wonder if he'll be Marion's or Willie's.

Age completely alters the dynamic though
True but i'd imagine Shia as Willie's not Marions:woot:

[Catman]

Last Crusade is easily the best of the three. Best character develoment, best action sequence, best pacing, and one of the most tense climaxes in movie history.

Raiders is the best but Crusade is my favorite. :yay:

And I don't understand the hate toward Temple Of Doom. Yeah, it's the weakest, but it's still one of the best adventure movies ever.

Agreed. :)

[Kevin Roegele]

And I don't understand the hate toward Temple Of Doom. Yeah, it's the weakest, but it's still one of the best adventure movies ever.

Because it's a f****** lazy piece of storytelling. It's just one set-piece after another. Spielberg is on autopilot and Lucas just wants to see how nasty he can make a family film. Yes, it is fun to watch, but no, it's not a good movie.

[Catman]

Temple of Doom didn't have the best story which is why its the weakest but the movie was cool. :)

[Hunter Rider]

Because it's a f****** lazy piece of storytelling. It's just one set-piece after another. Spielberg is on autopilot and Lucas just wants to see how nasty he can make a family film. Yes, it is fun to watch, but no, it's not a good movie.

I think it's a very good film but opinions and so on:cwink:

[L0ngsh0t]

I love temple of doom, sure its worse than the other 2, but its still better than 90 percent of movies made

[Catman]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MG/189604.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF6-A_XKN_4

[dpm07]

Personally, I'm really not crazy about them giving Indy a son. I think giving a child to Superman was horrible, and was one of the things that hurt that film. I'd hate to see that done to another iconic character in Indiana Jones.

Unfortunately, I don't have control over what will happen.

[Golgo-13]

Think we'll get the sword gag in this one? You know the scene in Raiders, where the Middle Eastern man is singing the sword, challenging Indy to a fight then Indy just shoots him...? They spoofed it in Temple of Doom too. Think we'll get it again..? It is classic Indy, imo...

[The Chairman]

Because it's a f****** lazy piece of storytelling. It's just one set-piece after another. Spielberg is on autopilot and Lucas just wants to see how nasty he can make a family film. Yes, it is fun to watch, but no, it's not a good movie.

No it isn't, but thanks for responding. The story for me as just as stong as Raiders, though I still think Last Crusade was overall the best of the trilogy.