Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[The_Vision]

That tv spot was awesome!!!!!!!

[Secret_Riddle]

New t.v spot had one new scene..but it was really funny =D

[Spider-Vader]

They just had a TV spot on Nick. I know. I am watching it for IM commercials.

There was only some new footage at the beginning. Shia and Indy are in a small passage and he says it is a dead end and the Indy does something that opens a door and then looks back and smiles.
"C'mon genius"

it's funny how when Shia and Harrison were doing their little skit, all the girls in the audience were shouting "I LOVE YOU SHIA!!!!"
But when he put the hat on, they all screamed. "Ooooooh that's who that guy is" :oldrazz:
I'm now about 95% sure that Mutt isn't Indy's kid. He calls him "Professor" and he's listed on the ToyFair images as being a certain "Mutt Williams," not Ravenwood or Jones.

To be honest, I'm quite relieved about that.
Maybe it's to disguise the surprise.

[Lord Valumart]

do we know that marion is still called ravenwood in this one?

[Spider-Vader]

No we don't. Especially since there's no toys of her from this one.

[Lord Valumart]

then that may be why he's called williams...

[Dark Donnie]

Loved the new spot

[Spider-Vader]

Possibly. Though, where's the husband? Dead?
Maybe someone married Marion when they found out she was single mom.

[Lord Valumart]

Possibly. Though, where's the husband? Dead?
Maybe someone married Marion when they found out she was single mom.

by the looks of it marion gets kidnapped at some point and thrust into the adventure...

it's possible that she and indy broke up, she found out she had shia inside her and found someone to marry quick and blag it off as his kid...:huh:

[raybia]

Great trailer! Looks and feels like a Indiana Jones movie to me!

[Prison Mike]

by the looks of it marion gets kidnapped at some point and thrust into the adventure...

it's possible that she and indy broke up, she found out she had shia inside her and found someone to marry quick and blag it off as his kid...:huh:

maybe she pulls a "Lois Lane" and does that.

oh and that "shia inside her" part sounds gross. lol

[Watson]

maybe she pulls a "Lois Lane" and does that.

oh and that "shia inside her" part sounds gross. lol

LOL yes. But that is what I'm leaning towards as well. God knows it's been done enough times. Plus though they may not act like they have a father son relationship, from thier characterizations they seeem similiar enough that it is possible. Plus pretty much every major magazine has spec'd it at this point.

Here´s the tv spot in HD.

480p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tv1/IJ_KOTCS_TV1_FREEDOM30_480p.mov)

720p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tv1/IJ_KOTCS_TV1_FREEDOM30_720p.mov)

ha, love the new scene. This does seem like it will be in the vein of RotLA.

[turtlefocker]

Here´s the tv spot in HD.

480p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tv1/IJ_KOTCS_TV1_FREEDOM30_480p.mov)

720p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tv1/IJ_KOTCS_TV1_FREEDOM30_720p.mov)

http://i27.tinypic.com/14oaro5.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/2h4l1n7.jpg

Awesome, are there any other tv spots?

[Webhead2006]

not yet.

[Spider-Vader]

Be prepared to spots as much as Spidey 3 or ROTS. Then see Indy's face everywhere like Spidey's & Vader's.

[Cagefighterkip]

Be prepared to spots as much as Spidey 3 or ROTS. Then see Indy's face everywhere like Spidey's & Vader's.

god thats gonna be awesome...

[danoyse]

Be prepared to spots as much as Spidey 3 or ROTS. Then see Indy's face everywhere like Spidey's & Vader's.

Like this billboard I found in Times Square this morning? :wow: :woot:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/IndianaJones.jpg


This is now the wallpaper on my phone. :wow:

[Dark Donnie]

Amazing billboard

[dark_b]

this is indiana jones ......in your face

[Watson]

Like this billboard I found in Times Square this morning? :wow: :woot:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/IndianaJones.jpg


This is now the wallpaper on my phone. :wow:

Oooo.

This is such a nice counter to the TDK campaign in some ways. No muss, no fuss, just ads and billboards appearing at a good pace.

[danoyse]

I was actually about 4 blocks away, walking to work when I happened to look in that direction and see that billboard. (it's been advertising Stop-Loss for the last few weeks). My jaw just dropped.

It doesn't need to get any more basic than that...and still be the coolest billboard I've seen in a long time. :yay:

[CorpusBlack]

Like this billboard I found in Times Square this morning? :wow: :woot:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/IndianaJones.jpg


This is now the wallpaper on my phone. :wow:

That's utterly awesome.

[Prison Mike]

I'm sure there are billboards like that in Los Angeles also. I prefer this campagin over TDK one with viral crap.

[DoctorJones]

I love the way the 'J' is perched on Indiana's shoulder and the skull in the centre of that poster.

[OctaviusINC]

Major Spoiler. It pretty much confirms it.
http://www.theraider.net/news/fullstory_games.php?id=640

[turtlefocker]

Join Indiana Jones and his newly discovered son, Mutt Williams, on a mission to find the Crystal Skull. Battle through five action-packed levels, from the bone-chilling rapids of the raging Amazon River to the dark, perilous catacombs deep beneath an Irish castle. Along the way, you'll use your skills and kNwledge to help Indy overcome every obstacle. And, you can customize the game online with the math skills you're studying in school.

[Rezzo]

An interesting read.

A Jones for 'Jones' (http://www.fandango.com/fandangoblog#575318)

It might not come as a shocker that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is this summer’s most anticipated movie (according to a recent Fandango poll of a few thousand moviegoers). What is surprising is by how much it beats the competition. With 82 percent of the vote, Indiana Jones nearly doubles figures for the second-highest ranked film, The Dark Knight, at 42 percent. Coming in a close third at 38 percent is Iron Man..

We also asked people to pick their most anticipated new character/fresh interpretation of a familiar role. The late Heath Ledger as The Dark Knight’s Joker came in at 55 percent, followed by Steve Carell as Maxwell Smart in Get Smart (34 percent).

Who has ‘em beat when it comes to favorite action movie stars & characters? You guessed it: Harrison Ford and Indy leads the pack. Scroll down for the full results of our survey. And here's more on the new movie.

Most Anticipated Summer 2008 Movie:
1. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (82%)
2. THE DARK KNIGHT (42%)
3. IRON MAN (38%)
4. THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: PRINCE CASPIAN (37%)
5. THE MUMMY: TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPORER (30%)
6. GET SMART (29%)
7. THE INCREDIBLE HULK (22%)
8. THE UNTITLED X-FILES SEQUEL (20%)
9. SPEED RACER (19%)
10. SEX AND THE CITY (19%)

Most Anticipated New Character Portrayal (Fresh Interpretation of a Familiar Role):
1. Heath Ledger as “The Joker”, THE DARK KNIGHT (55%)
2. Steve Carell as “Maxwell Smart”, GET SMART (34%)
3. Robert Downey, Jr. as “Tony Stark”, IRON MAN (32%)
4. Edward Norton as “Bruce Banner”, THE INCREDIBLE HULK (26%)
5. Anne Hathaway as “Agent 99”, GET SMART (21%)
6. Ben Barnes as “Prince Caspian”, THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: PRINCE CASPIAN (21%)
7. Angelina Jolie as “ Fox”, WANTED (21%)
8. Meryl Streep as “Donna”, MAMMA MIA (12%)
9. Emile Hirsch as “Speed”, SPEED RACER (11%)
10. James McAvoy as “Wesley Gibson”, WANTED (9%)

All-Time Favorite Action Movie Character:
1. Indiana Jones (76%)
2. James Bond (51%)
3. Jason Bourne (43%)
4. Batman (40%)
5. DIE HARD’s John McClane (38%)
6. Spider-Man (33%)
7. The Terminator (28%)
8. Superman (27%)
9. THE MATRIX’s Neo (24%)
10. Lara Croft (24%)

All-Time Favorite Action Movie Star:
1. Harrison Ford (75%)
2. Bruce Willis (57%)
3. Will Smith (47%)
4. Mel Gibson (46%)
5. Nicolas Cage (38%)
6. Arnold Schwarzenegger (37%)
7. Clint Eastwood (37%)
8. Angelina Jolie (29%)
9. Russell Crowe (29%)
10. Samuel L. Jackson (27%)

[Trainwreck2100]

shouldn't percentages add to 100?

[turtlefocker]

that would make sense wouldn't it...

[Rezzo]

Indiana Jones Will Be (Mostly) CGI-Free, Designer Tells io9 (http://io9.com/374266/indiana-jones-will-be-mostly-cgi+free-designer-tells-io9)

Will Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull feature Indy ducking CGI boulders and reacting to greenscreen aliens? Not according to production designer Guy Hendrix Dyas, who also worked on Superman Returns and X2: X-Men United. We just talked to Dyas, who says he built all of the movie's sets, with little or no greenscreen. More details, and a gallery of Dyas' designs from Superman and X2, after the jump.

Many people had feared that George Lucas' involvement in the new Indiana Jones would mean another spate of greenscreen craziness, along the lines of the three Star Wars prequels. But Dyas says:

There really wasn't much CGI. We built all the sets... We built all of the [moving stone staircases, converging stone pillars and other pieces] so it was very nice.

You can see from looking at these images from Dyas' portfolio that he's designed and built some very elaborate sets for earlier movies, including Magneto's cell in X2. It'll be interesting to see Indy go head-to-head with the 100 percent CGI Speed Racer, also opening in May.

:up:

[Watson]

Join Indiana Jones and his newly discovered son, Mutt Williams, on a mission to find the Crystal Skull. Battle through five action-packed levels, from the bone-chilling rapids of the raging Amazon River to the dark, perilous catacombs deep beneath an Irish castle. Along the way, you'll use your skills and kNwledge to help Indy overcome every obstacle. And, you can customize the game online with the math skills you're studying in school.

and there we have it...

[theShape]

The new Tv spot's weak.

[Jack Napier]

The new Tv spot's weak.

(As Alec Baldwin from "Glengarry Glen Ross") The leads are weak? YOU'RE WEAK.

But seriously, I dunno about "weak".

[Cagefighterkip]

The new Tv spot's weak.

the tv spot isnt supposed to be a strong full on trailer... its just a 30 second blurb, and imo for what it was it was pimp

[Gamma Ray]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

[Cagefighterkip]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

disagree; but i loved the son in SR

[Kent]

shouldn't percentages add to 100?

My guess is people were asked if they anticipate a particular movie. So you could vote for several movies. It's not how the article describes the polling process, but it's the only way it could make any sense.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i was just reading about it over at theraider.net. Who knows if it is true or not some times those games/kids stuff are wrong. But for months it has been leaning towards shia's indy's son. But i dont really care as long as the story is good i am fine with him being his unknown son, just some greaser that got pulled into his adventure, or a current/former student of his.

[Spider-Vader]

Like this billboard I found in Times Square this morning? :wow: :woot:



This is now the wallpaper on my phone. :wow:
Yup.

The poll is proof why Indy's gonna be #1 this year, eat that BM fanboys!

[Conebone69]

The TV spot was kinda poorly done but I bet the movie will be sick

[StylishHokie21]

Who's going to see the movie opening day?

[The Amazing Lee]

uhhhh...me. :D

[danoyse]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

Well, Last Crusade was one of the best father-son action films...I've got faith that they'll do ok here. Even if Shia is no Sean Connery.

[The Kid]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

UH, Hi, remember me?

http://www.indiana.jp/character/image/shortround.jpg arguably one of the most memorable additions to the franchise.

[nightwing06]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

I knew Spielberg was going to do this,after an interview i read last year in which he talked about family,and the regrets he had in some of his films in which there wasnt a stronger family or father and son element.

[Rezzo]

Who's going to see the movie opening day?

Of course I am. :cwink:

[Gamma Ray]

UH, Hi, remember me?

http://www.indiana.jp/character/image/shortround.jpg arguably one of the most memorable additions to the franchise.


a. He wasn't a son.
b. He was almost as annoying as Willie.

[Kanon]

Magazine La Cosa, from Argentina, on sale today, has four Indy covers and 2 miniposters. I'll post pics tomorrow or later cause my scanner is broken :(

[Watson]

Who's going to see the movie opening day?

I can't wait to be leaving the theatre in the wee hours of the morning may 22 :D

[DoctorJones]

The "news" about "Mutt" (I feel like an idiot saying that) just makes me even less in favor of this movie. It will be Superman Returns all over again. Heroes shouldn't have kids.

Why are you surprised? In each Spielberg film there was a fatherhood theme, even in Raiders Indy had a bad history with Abner and Marion. In Skull we now have a teenager and an old man. Familiar themes reinterpreted for a new generation.

[Gamma Ray]

I'm not surprised. That's why I put news in quotations. I'm just upset that it's another predictable story arc.

[turtlefocker]

I would rather Indy haev a son than Superman...

[Stalker1138]

Maybe someone mentioned it, but some cereals have Indy on the front of the box.

I had a dream that I saw Indy 4 and hated it. My friend and I were arguing over who won Indy 4, Lucas or Spielberg, as in Lucas won because there was so much CGI and very little effort put into the story, characters and acting (much like the prequels).

[The Kid]

a. He wasn't a son.
b. He was almost as annoying as Willie.

Their relationship was just as strong as any normal father/son one. :o And I'm just pointing out how Indy as a father figure has come and gone with no big issues associated with it. There won't be any here, that's for sure.

I don't think he's as annoying as willie but I can't twist my way around his quirkyness, though the whole movies was like that, so it fit.

[Shifty]

Maybe someone mentioned it, but some cereals have Indy on the front of the box.


Get ready to see the Indy Whopper as well.

[danoyse]

Who's going to see the movie opening day?

I will be driving cross-country with my dad on opening weekend. I've already told him we're stopping at the first movie theater we find and seeing it. :woot:

[cerealkiller182]

I will be driving cross-country with my dad on opening weekend. I've already told him we're stopping at the first movie theater we find and seeing it. :woot:

How olds your dad? I know for one my dad is just as excited as I am and hes pushing 50 (i think). My point is that Ithink your dad would jump atthe chance to see Indy

[Spider-Vader]

Who's going to see the movie opening day?
I probably will. Either that or the next day.
a. He wasn't a son.
b. He was almost as annoying as Willie.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... Are you smoking weed? Short Round's is teh Sh**.

[danoyse]

How olds your dad? I know for one my dad is just as excited as I am and hes pushing 50 (i think)

My dad just turned 58. We saw Raiders together when it was first released. And two years ago we saw all 3 movies in one day when a theater in NY was running a marathon.

We're also spending the first part of that week at Disneyland in California, which has (according to my dad) an awesome Indiana Jones ride.

So yeah, we'll be stopping somewhere to see Indy IV. :woot:

[cerealkiller182]

My dad just turned 58. We saw Raiders together when it was first released. And two years ago we saw all 3 movies in one day when a theater in NY was running a marathon.

We're also spending the first part of that week at Disneyland in California, which has (according to my dad) an awesome Indiana Jones ride.

So yeah, we'll be stopping somewhere to see Indy IV. :woot:

Nice! I havent heard ofthe ride. I normally go to Florida where they have a pretty sweet Indiana Jones Stunt Show

[danoyse]

Nice! I havent heard ofthe ride. I normally go to Florida where they have a pretty sweet Indiana Jones Stunt Show

Yep, I've seen the stunt show in Florida. It's really good. :up:

The ride in Disneyland is supposedly a lot like the Dinosaur ride at Disney World, but much better.

I saw Last Crusade at Downtown Disney in Florida opening weekend in 1989. I remember the line wrapped around the building, and the whole audience groaned when the snotty butler told Indy "If you are a Scottish lord, than I am MICKEY MOUSE!"

They were even selling posters in the lobby. I still have mine. :yay:

[cerealkiller182]

I used to be pissed that i never got to see Indiana Jones or Die Hard in the theaters since I was either too young or not born but now I get to which is "wicked pissah!"

[danoyse]

I used to be pissed that i never got to see Indiana Jones or Die Hard in the theaters since I was either too young or not born but now I get to which is "wicked pissah!"

I grew up with them, but I never thought there would actually be a new Indiana Jones movie. So I'm just enjoying all of it right now...especially seeing that billboard in Times Square. Just so cool. :woot:

[Flash-er]

***SPOILER... Maybe... (okay, probably not, but you've been warned)***

Has anyone heard anything about this new film involving aliens? I just saw a toy pic of the "crystal skull" from the movie and I have to say, it looks pretty alien to me.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizarduniverse/nycc5.gif

Oh, and the kid being called "Mutt" isn't a big deal to me. After all, they named the DOG Indiana. :hehe:

[Watson]

***SPOILER... Maybe... (okay, probably not, but you've been warned)***

Has anyone heard anything about this new film involving aliens? I just saw a toy pic of the "crystal skull" from the movie and I have to say, it looks pretty alien to me.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizarduniverse/nycc5.gif

Oh, and the kid being called "Mutt" isn't a big deal to me. After all, they named the DOG Indiana. :hehe:

:lmao:

If you go through this thread, you'll see that is all we have been specing.

I don't know if we've seen those replications yet though. I like that you can buy the R2 and 3P0 tbalet from Last Crusade. Nice find.

[porchmonkey408]

The Indy ride at Disneyland in LA is sweet. Trust me. Well worth the wait in line (and it can get ridiculously long).

Anyway, I kind of hope they do an alien thing, but just do it right.

[Gamma Ray]

Oh, now I get it. They both have dog names... Clever.

[Webhead2006]

Yea the whole alien plot has been long rumored to be a factor in the film in some way. What way we dont know yet.

[Gold Samurai]

Oh, now I get it. They both have dog names... Clever.

"We named the dog Indiana"

so now we named the kid "Mutt"

[DoctorJones]

Likewise, Willie and Short Round were dogs from the production team. It's a grand tradition! I wonder if Henry was someone's dog. Oh, and Marion was Lawrence Kasdan's grandmother in law.

[The Amazing Lee]

Well it's going to have a B movie feel in places...so yeah...expect Aliens...:)

[Nirvana]

Aliens are okay in my book, we'll see how it plays out, Mutt's revelation I am okay with just as long as it's not played stupidly, The stunt show at Disney in Orlando is extremely cool, and I will definitely be there for a midnight showing.

[Secret_Riddle]

Actually, I think that Aliens were a great way to tie the enigma of the crystal skulls (there are actual theories out there) into Indiana Jones continuity. After all there is so much speculation as to whether our ancestors were ever visited by aliens( there is evidence), i think it will be fresh to see Indiana Jones exploring this.

[Stalker1138]

Likewise, Willie and Short Round were dogs from the production team. It's a grand tradition! I wonder if Henry was someone's dog. Oh, and Marion was Lawrence Kasdan's grandmother in law.

If I remember correctly, Lucas's dog was named Chewy or inspired the character or something.

[Tempest19]

Aliens makes a lot of sense and fits the world of the franchise since myths state aliens may have been around since the beginning of man. even accounts of UFOS in paintings of Jesus and cave paintings. Very archeological type information. So it fits.

Have a working theory that "gods" may have been aliens during ancient Greek times. Like Prometheus giving fire to the people. Might be more to this, rather than 'alien' as we refer to them they could have called them 'god.' Just an idea.

[Spider-Vader]

If I remember correctly, Lucas's dog was named Chewy or inspired the character or something.
Actually the dog was named Indiana & he got the idea of Chewbaca because the dog always sat in the front seat next to him.

[Stalker1138]

I believe more in aliens than I do in religious superpowered artifacts. I mean, to me at least, at least there is proof in aliens' existance, whereas the belief in a god is purely faith-oriented. Not trying to start a religious debate, just stating my side of the whole alien concept in Indy.

[jimmylace]

yeah exactly- its a mathematical improbability that there is no other life in our universe-whats the latest calculation? it's something like 500 billion solar systems like ours are likely to exist in the universe! and thats not including life that exists beyond our reality or visible range...despite a few hoaxes here and there, there are some really good ufo videos and accounts. Anyone that doesnt believe in e.t life really needs to get their head out of the sand.

As for the idea that aliens have intervened in human history- I'm not sold, but I certainly don't think its preposterous- there are some good theories and evidence for the case. Whilst theres tons more of evidence supporting Darwins theory, the simple fact remains that they have yet to find a missing link. Believe it or not, 'alien genetic manipulation' is gaining ground every day amongst scientists, and there are a number of respected indivduals looking at human D.N.A to find messages. Is 95% of our D.N.A really junk? I doubt it.

Anyway, don't want to get into a 'new age debate'- but I have no problems with Aliens in Indy.

[Stalker1138]

Yeah, the fact that we're here is proof that life exists, and not only that but life "finds a way" to quote from Jurassic Park...hahahaha.

Even though I too wouldn't really have a problem with aliens in Indy, I think I'd rather have it implied or suggested rather than seen. I think it leaves more to the imagination.

[DoctorJones]

Spielberg isn't stupid, and we won't have Indy doing the Close Encounters hand signal. That's partly why they rejected that awful Jeb Stuart Saucer Men from Mars script in the early 1990s. Lucas's favourite 1950s B-movie is Forbidden Planet, and that film has characters discovering an ancient advanced civilization, and the threat was a psychic creature made of dead souls: that's why I believe the aliens in the picture spiritual creatures, not physical ones.

Aliens makes a lot of sense and fits the world of the franchise since myths state aliens may have been around since the beginning of man. even accounts of UFOS in paintings of Jesus and cave paintings. Very archeological type information. So it fits.

Have a working theory that "gods" may have been aliens during ancient Greek times. Like Prometheus giving fire to the people. Might be more to this, rather than 'alien' as we refer to them they could have called them 'god.' Just an idea.

I'm a Christian and used to equate aliens with angels as a child (cue my teacher asking me if I knew what aliens looked like, lol). There is also a Muslim belief in Jinns, God's creation outside man and angels. I have no problem with this, as long as Spielberg does it right.

[The Chris]

This site says the movie is 2 hr 3 min

http://www.nfcstatistiek.nl/rel.htm

[DoctorJones]

Doesn't surprise me, considering the similiar length of the other three films, and because Spielberg hasn't made a film under two hours (except WOTW) since Temple of Doom.

[The Man of Steel]

does anyone have any avvys from the trailer in 50 x 50?

[Spider-Vader]

This site says the movie is 2 hr 3 min

http://www.nfcstatistiek.nl/rel.htm

Makes since all of the big blockbusters (except Shrek 3) are long.

[Showtime]

Just saw the TV Spot...awesome.

[Stalker1138]

Just saw the TV Spot...awesome.

I find it kind of awkward when Indy says "come on, genius." But it reminds me when he delivered the same kind of line in Last Crusade to his dad ("come ON, Dad!").

But the TV spot really plays to the theme music wonderfully, much better than the trailer. I love how they let the Raiders March just play, and then the visuals flow with it. Whoever put this together should work on the final trailer.

[TNC9852002]

I watched Raiders on Tuesday night. I'm watching Doom and TLC tonight. :D

-TNC

[Webhead2006]

hey guys have u seen this from joblo.com:

http://www.joblo.com/animated-indy
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy2.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy3.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy4.jpg

[Matt Murdock]

Seen that they're not making an Indiana Jones cartoon? :huh:

[Gotham]

An animated Indiana Jones show would definitely succeed.

[Webhead2006]

yea to bad it would be a nice idea to continue the character u know set it between 3 and 4 peroid and tell us about is many adventures he had before skulls.

[Gotham]

yea to bad it would be a nice idea to continue the character u know set it between 3 and 4 peroid and tell us about is many adventures he had before skulls.

If the fourth film is as successful as Paramount would like it to be, and they do go through with the animation idea (by some miracle), they would most likely use Mutt and Indy as the focal point.

[cerealkiller182]

Love how any and every Indy news piece is followed by some stupid little comment about how much people hate Mutt.


And yes I think Indy cartoon would be good. The guy who did the voice in the PS2 game Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb was a pretty good Ford impersonator too.

[Gotham]

Love how any and every Indy news piece is followed by some stupid little comment about how much people hate Mutt.



I'm a fan of the Mutt character. Honestly.

[cerealkiller182]

Fair enough

whenever i hear "the studio will probably..." I think the worst from fanboys

[Webhead2006]

yea if they were ever to do animated show they better get a pretty good impersonator for it.

[DocHoliday]

From what I can tell, Mutt is a pretty cool character.

[Matt Murdock]

Love how any and every Indy news piece is followed by some stupid little comment about how much people hate Mutt.


And yes I think Indy cartoon would be good. The guy who did the voice in the PS2 game Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb was a pretty good Ford impersonator too.
Him, the guy from the Ride over in Disneyland, or the guy who voiced him for IJatFOA.:up:

[Spider-Vader]

I watched Raiders on Tuesday night. I'm watching Doom and TLC tonight. :D

-TNC

My Doom's scratched up, I guess I'll have to get the new DVD.

[DoctorJones]

I've always wanted to see an Indiana Jones cartoon based on Patrick Schoenmaker's designs. His work reminds me of recent Disney.

[Spider-Vader]

Original Star Wars Clone Wars for me.

[joker072]

John Hurt was on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross last night, if anyone's interested. If I remember correctly he didn't give anything away and mentioned that if he did Lucas would sue his arse, as he is sworn to secrecy ("thank you captain obvious" - I know). However, he did mention that apparently KotCS will be debuting at the Cannes Film Festival, which is news to me at least.

[Shifty]

John Hurt was on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross last night, if anyone's interested. If I remember correctly he didn't give anything away and mentioned that if he did Lucas would sue his arse, as he is sworn to secrecy ("thank you captain obvious" - I know). However, he did mention that apparently KotCS will be debuting at the Cannes Film Festival, which is news to me at least.

There were rumours. The CFF runs May 14-25. They would be smart to have it on the 22nd and not so early. I'm sure spoilers will spread if it plays May 14.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Nothing new, just a reaction to the trailer. Thought it was funny. :o
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[Golgo-13]

^Lame.

[OctaviusINC]

^Lame.

I agree

[jimmylace]

This movie had better be good. I don't think I could handle a world where a crap Indiana Jones movie exists. LFODH was bad enough. (yes, imo) ;)

[Stalker1138]

Well, I was kinda adding it up and I must say the movie has a few strikes against it.

Cate Blanchett is hot and a great actress, but she definitely is no Mola Ram, Belloq, Dietrich or even Vogel. I mean, not to sound sexist, but the weakest villain IMO was Elsa, but at least we had Nazi Col. Vogel to provide a little more villain power. I think I'd rather hit on Cate's character than hit her.

Also, Nazis and religious cults are a bit more scary and intimidating as villains than Communist and American Army forces.

And Crystal Skulls? I am not too familiar with them, although the same could be said of the Shankara Stones from Temple of Doom. But THE TEMPLE itself did a nice job of being a main set piece and making up for the lack of a good goal for Indy. Although obtaining the stones was important and unavoidable, the main quest was to survive this nightmarish temple! In Raiders, Indy was going after the Ark and in Last Crusade, the Holy Grail. Some weird skulls just seem to pale in comparison. Yes, we don't know their power yet, they could be the most powerful objects in the universe, but I am going off sheer first impressions.

This movie also seems to retread some material/themes we've already seen; the Ark warehouse, maybe the Ark itself, Marion, running from a temple while being chased by ancient native tribes, and the father/son relationship a'la Last Crusade, although reverse dynamics could make for an interesting story.

And I know it irks some people, but I don't care because its my opinon. Shia Lebouf. He's plain goofy looking. Why couldn't Spielberg and Lucas gone with a young unknown, in the vein of Short Round? Or gone with an actor that actually looks like he could grow up to be Indy, a'la River Phoenix? I mean, if I were to see Shia wearing Indy's fedora, I would laugh and cry at the same time. I really really hope it isn't true about the rumor that in the end, Indy and Marion ride off into the sunset (or something) and Indy's fedora blows off and falls at Shia's feet If it does, I am afraid I will have to dismiss the movie just on that alone.

I want this to be good, but I have my doubts. Spielberg is simply unable to match the quality of Raiders and Temple, as demonstrated by the weaker Last Crusade. There is no way IMO that this film can approach those two's level because we had a young Indy (or relatively young -- he was still basically in his prime, not like this new movie) doing what he does best; adventuring, not worrying about his dad or his son and instead kicking villain ass and obtaining rare antiquties. Last Crusade was a little too bogged down in excess and trying to squeeze out some emotion, as if it were trying to validate the series as something more than b-movie throwbacks, which was a mistake. Also, Lucas. I would need a whole forum to describe my issues with him, but I can sum it up by saying he has completely lost it as a filmmaker. He's more obsessed with marketing the movie and how the movie looks than the movie itself. Acting, direction, story...all take a backseat to CGI for him. I know that this shoot had to be a fight with Lucas constantly, and I read that Spielberg was firm in telling Lucas 'no' to many things, but I imagine some of his ideas that did get through will probably be of the same quality as we've seen before as with the prequels and SEs of the beloved original trilogy.

Like I said, I want this to be good. I am a huge Indy fan, and I am as giddy as a schoolboy about this movie. Its like being a kid again, and to hear my favorite musical theme of all time, the Raiders March, will be an unequalled delight. But I still must have my doubts and trepidations, and must not allow my expectations to climb so insurmountably high lest I suffer another mammoth disappointment in the vein of Phantom Menace or Superman Returns.

[Gold Samurai]

I've always wanted to see an Indiana Jones cartoon based on Patrick Schoenmaker's designs. His work reminds me of recent Disney.

More precisely Disney's Atlantis. Indy's dad reminds me of the main character of that movie.

I have feeling Kate's role will get hammered by the critics for her character being cardboard and some asking "why is she wearing a ridiculous wig?"

[Secret Fawful]

Well, I was kinda adding it up and I must say the movie has a few strikes against it.

Cate Blanchett is hot and a great actress, but she definitely is no Mola Ram, Belloq, Dietrich or even Vogel. I mean, not to sound sexist, but the weakest villain IMO was Elsa, but at least we had Nazi Col. Vogel to provide a little more villain power. I think I'd rather hit on Cate's character than hit her.

Also, Nazis and religious cults are a bit more scary and intimidating as villains than Communist and American Army forces.

And Crystal Skulls? I am not too familiar with them, although the same could be said of the Shankara Stones from Temple of Doom. But THE TEMPLE itself did a nice job of being a main set piece and making up for the lack of a good goal for Indy. Although obtaining the stones was important and unavoidable, the main quest was to survive this nightmarish temple! In Raiders, Indy was going after the Ark and in Last Crusade, the Holy Grail. Some weird skulls just seem to pale in comparison. Yes, we don't know their power yet, they could be the most powerful objects in the universe, but I am going off sheer first impressions.

This movie also seems to retread some material/themes we've already seen; the Ark warehouse, maybe the Ark itself, Marion, running from a temple while being chased by ancient native tribes, and the father/son relationship a'la Last Crusade, although reverse dynamics could make for an interesting story.

And I know it irks some people, but I don't care because its my opinon. Shia Lebouf. He's plain goofy looking. Why couldn't Spielberg and Lucas gone with a young unknown, in the vein of Short Round? Or gone with an actor that actually looks like he could grow up to be Indy, a'la River Phoenix? I mean, if I were to see Shia wearing Indy's fedora, I would laugh and cry at the same time. I really really hope it isn't true about the rumor that in the end, Indy and Marion ride off into the sunset (or something) and Indy's fedora blows off and falls at Shia's feet If it does, I am afraid I will have to dismiss the movie just on that alone.

I want this to be good, but I have my doubts. Spielberg is simply unable to match the quality of Raiders and Temple, as demonstrated by the weaker Last Crusade. There is no way IMO that this film can approach those two's level because we had a young Indy (or relatively young -- he was still basically in his prime, not like this new movie) doing what he does best; adventuring, not worrying about his dad or his son and instead kicking villain ass and obtaining rare antiquties. Last Crusade was a little too bogged down in excess and trying to squeeze out some emotion, as if it were trying to validate the series as something more than b-movie throwbacks, which was a mistake. Also, Lucas. I would need a whole forum to describe my issues with him, but I can sum it up by saying he has completely lost it as a filmmaker. He's more obsessed with marketing the movie and how the movie looks than the movie itself. Acting, direction, story...all take a backseat to CGI for him. I know that this shoot had to be a fight with Lucas constantly, and I read that Spielberg was firm in telling Lucas 'no' to many things, but I imagine some of his ideas that did get through will probably be of the same quality as we've seen before as with the prequels and SEs of the beloved original trilogy.

Like I said, I want this to be good. I am a huge Indy fan, and I am as giddy as a schoolboy about this movie. Its like being a kid again, and to hear my favorite musical theme of all time, the Raiders March, will be an unequalled delight. But I still must have my doubts and trepidations, and must not allow my expectations to climb so insurmountably high lest I suffer another mammoth disappointment in the vein of Phantom Menace or Superman Returns.
Who Cares?

[Stalker1138]

Apparently you did if you read it, quoted it, and immaturely replied to it.

[cerealkiller182]

Apparently you did if you read it, quoted it, and immaturely replied to it.

I definitely know where you are coming from and as far as what you said about being a retread. I think its only a retread in the most simplistic form but its different cultures, different villains, different artifacts. I think they have found a good balance between giving us new stuff to surprise us and keep it fresh and enough familiar things to make it feel like Indiana Jones.

And as far as Shia. I find him enjoyable and capable. Hes no DeNiro or Nicholson (even in their rookie years) but he gets the job done. And Spielberg loves him. Shia definitely seems like he loves film and Spielberg seems to favor those who do.

[DoctorJones]

Also, Nazis and religious cults are a bit more scary and intimidating as villains than Communist[s]


For me, the Soviet Union is as terrifying as the Third Reich. Stalin was a more calculating and subtle monster than Hitler: he quietly deported his enemies, and he probably killed more men.

Secondly, if you feel Last Crusade was a dissapointment, then I cannot agree with you. TLC went back to the subtleties of ROTLA: TOD has none of the excellent characterizations like Belloq, Marion, Donovan, Elsa, Henry Senior etc. TOD was to paraphrase one critic, "a Superman movie without Clark Kent".

[Gold Samurai]

hey guys have u seen this from joblo.com:

http://www.joblo.com/animated-indy
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy2.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy3.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/animatedindy4.jpg

it would be nice if you didn't hotlink :whatever:

[GhostPoet]

I can't fathom why people hate Mutt.
He looks like a great character that fits well with Indy.

[Rezzo]

it would be nice if you didn't hotlink :whatever:

Goddamn bandwidth thieves. :cmad:

[Secret_Riddle]

Well, I was kinda adding it up and I must say the movie has a few strikes against it.

Cate Blanchett is hot and a great actress, but she definitely is no Mola Ram, Belloq, Dietrich or even Vogel. I mean, not to sound sexist, but the weakest villain IMO was Elsa, but at least we had Nazi Col. Vogel to provide a little more villain power. I think I'd rather hit on Cate's character than hit her.

Also, Nazis and religious cults are a bit more scary and intimidating as villains than Communist and American Army forces.

And Crystal Skulls? I am not too familiar with them, although the same could be said of the Shankara Stones from Temple of Doom. But THE TEMPLE itself did a nice job of being a main set piece and making up for the lack of a good goal for Indy. Although obtaining the stones was important and unavoidable, the main quest was to survive this nightmarish temple! In Raiders, Indy was going after the Ark and in Last Crusade, the Holy Grail. Some weird skulls just seem to pale in comparison. Yes, we don't know their power yet, they could be the most powerful objects in the universe, but I am going off sheer first impressions.

This movie also seems to retread some material/themes we've already seen; the Ark warehouse, maybe the Ark itself, Marion, running from a temple while being chased by ancient native tribes, and the father/son relationship a'la Last Crusade, although reverse dynamics could make for an interesting story.

And I know it irks some people, but I don't care because its my opinon. Shia Lebouf. He's plain goofy looking. Why couldn't Spielberg and Lucas gone with a young unknown, in the vein of Short Round? Or gone with an actor that actually looks like he could grow up to be Indy, a'la River Phoenix? I mean, if I were to see Shia wearing Indy's fedora, I would laugh and cry at the same time. I really really hope it isn't true about the rumor that in the end, Indy and Marion ride off into the sunset (or something) and Indy's fedora blows off and falls at Shia's feet If it does, I am afraid I will have to dismiss the movie just on that alone.

I want this to be good, but I have my doubts. Spielberg is simply unable to match the quality of Raiders and Temple, as demonstrated by the weaker Last Crusade. There is no way IMO that this film can approach those two's level because we had a young Indy (or relatively young -- he was still basically in his prime, not like this new movie) doing what he does best; adventuring, not worrying about his dad or his son and instead kicking villain ass and obtaining rare antiquties. Last Crusade was a little too bogged down in excess and trying to squeeze out some emotion, as if it were trying to validate the series as something more than b-movie throwbacks, which was a mistake. Also, Lucas. I would need a whole forum to describe my issues with him, but I can sum it up by saying he has completely lost it as a filmmaker. He's more obsessed with marketing the movie and how the movie looks than the movie itself. Acting, direction, story...all take a backseat to CGI for him. I know that this shoot had to be a fight with Lucas constantly, and I read that Spielberg was firm in telling Lucas 'no' to many things, but I imagine some of his ideas that did get through will probably be of the same quality as we've seen before as with the prequels and SEs of the beloved original trilogy.

Like I said, I want this to be good. I am a huge Indy fan, and I am as giddy as a schoolboy about this movie. Its like being a kid again, and to hear my favorite musical theme of all time, the Raiders March, will be an unequalled delight. But I still must have my doubts and trepidations, and must not allow my expectations to climb so insurmountably high lest I suffer another mammoth disappointment in the vein of Phantom Menace or Superman Returns.

No matter what you and I say, it will not change the movie that is being cut together as we speak.

Spielberg usually gets the job done and when asked about this movie he said "every frame, i think how will the fans react to this?" and spielberg tends to be a man of his word.

As for the problems you listed, theres a right way and a wrong way to do everything, lets hope Spielberg is on the right track.

[Stalker1138]

For me, the Soviet Union is as terrifying as the Third Reich. Stalin was a more calculating and subtle monster than Hitler: he quietly deported his enemies, and he probably killed more men.

Oh, I know. Stalin was a monster. I just think Nazis make more interesting bad guys. There is so much mysticism, extremism, and plain oddness with the Third Reich, much more so than the USSR. I mean, what they were coming up with behind closed doors (and sometimes not so closed doors) isn't too far off from some things we see in movies, books, etc. that may at first seem fantastical.

Secondly, if you feel Last Crusade was a dissapointment, then I cannot agree with you. TLC went back to the subtleties of ROTLA: TOD has none of the excellent characterizations like Belloq, Marion, Donovan, Elsa, Henry Senior etc. TOD was to paraphrase one critic, "a Superman movie without Clark Kent".

In comparison to Temple, I do feel Last Crusade was a disappointment. Last Crusade itself had a retread feel to it, but lacked the completely wonderful action set pieces from Raiders. It was a good movie, don't get me wrong, but when compared to the two masterful action movies before it, it just pales. I don't like the humor either.

[DoctorJones]

Oh, I know. Stalin was a monster. I just think Nazis make more interesting bad guys. There is so much mysticism, extremism, and plain oddness with the Third Reich, much more so than the USSR. I mean, what they were coming up with behind closed doors (and sometimes not so closed doors) isn't too far off from some things we see in movies, books, etc. that may at first seem fantastical.


True, and that's why Lucas chose a more grounded supernatural device for a more grounded villain in more grounded times.


In comparison to Temple, I do feel Last Crusade was a disappointment. Last Crusade itself had a retread feel to it, but lacked the completely wonderful action set pieces from Raiders. It was a good movie, don't get me wrong, but when compared to the two masterful action movies before it, it just pales. I don't like the humor either.

Right, so you missed out on the Sunday boy's own heart of the movie. Tom Stoppard and Sean Connery's polishing of the script was superb: "She talks in her sleep." But oh well, at least history judges TLC as near ROTLA's equal: Spielberg didn't try to replicate its grit, but its wit. Still, I know he's made it worth his while this time with a style to match ROTLA, rather than the Hollywoodized TOD.

[Matt Murdock]

People hate Mutt because it's absolutely unfathomable that Indiana Jones' sperm would've fertilized one of the eggs in Marion Ravencroft's ovaries.

[cerealkiller182]

Shia is kinda like Ben Affleck around here too. A few people find him entertaining but theres alot of people who seem to hate him

[블라스]

And they hate him for no other reason than "the other fanboyantastic sheep hate him, and so should I!".

[Stalker1138]

Right, so you missed out on the Sunday boy's own heart of the movie. Tom Stoppard and Sean Connery's polishing of the script was superb: "She talks in her sleep." But oh well, at least history judges TLC as near ROTLA's equal: Spielberg didn't try to replicate its grit, but its wit. Still, I know he's made it worth his while this time with a style to match ROTLA, rather than the Hollywoodized TOD.

I don't understand your first sentence at all. I don't really care about whatever history you're claiming judges Last Crusade, because opinion is not fact and it really only matters what I think.

And I don't know where your definition of "Hollywoodized" comes from, but Last Crusade is much more formulaic and crowd-friendly over Temple anyday.

Let's just remember that its opinion and try not to get so worked up that not everyone shares your opinion of Last Crusade's superiority over Temple. I find Temple much more entertaining and well made, thus there is no debate here.

[Golgo-13]

Saw the trailer for the first time on the big screen yesterday, attached to the worst movie i've seen i years '10,000 BC'. Good seeing it on the big screen.

There's only one thing i hope i NEVER see in this movie; Shia becoming Indy's replacement. If that happens, i will dumb this movie (no matter how good the rest of it is with the likes of AVP, Rocky Balboa and LFODH.

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/you-fool-038.gif

[StylishHokie21]

Well, I was kinda adding it up and I must say the movie has a few strikes against it.

Cate Blanchett is hot and a great actress, but she definitely is no Mola Ram, Belloq, Dietrich or even Vogel. I mean, not to sound sexist, but the weakest villain IMO was Elsa, but at least we had Nazi Col. Vogel to provide a little more villain power. I think I'd rather hit on Cate's character than hit her.

Also, Nazis and religious cults are a bit more scary and intimidating as villains than Communist and American Army forces.

And Crystal Skulls? I am not too familiar with them, although the same could be said of the Shankara Stones from Temple of Doom. But THE TEMPLE itself did a nice job of being a main set piece and making up for the lack of a good goal for Indy. Although obtaining the stones was important and unavoidable, the main quest was to survive this nightmarish temple! In Raiders, Indy was going after the Ark and in Last Crusade, the Holy Grail. Some weird skulls just seem to pale in comparison. Yes, we don't know their power yet, they could be the most powerful objects in the universe, but I am going off sheer first impressions.

This movie also seems to retread some material/themes we've already seen; the Ark warehouse, maybe the Ark itself, Marion, running from a temple while being chased by ancient native tribes, and the father/son relationship a'la Last Crusade, although reverse dynamics could make for an interesting story.

And I know it irks some people, but I don't care because its my opinon. Shia Lebouf. He's plain goofy looking. Why couldn't Spielberg and Lucas gone with a young unknown, in the vein of Short Round? Or gone with an actor that actually looks like he could grow up to be Indy, a'la River Phoenix? I mean, if I were to see Shia wearing Indy's fedora, I would laugh and cry at the same time. I really really hope it isn't true about the rumor that in the end, Indy and Marion ride off into the sunset (or something) and Indy's fedora blows off and falls at Shia's feet If it does, I am afraid I will have to dismiss the movie just on that alone.

I want this to be good, but I have my doubts. Spielberg is simply unable to match the quality of Raiders and Temple, as demonstrated by the weaker Last Crusade. There is no way IMO that this film can approach those two's level because we had a young Indy (or relatively young -- he was still basically in his prime, not like this new movie) doing what he does best; adventuring, not worrying about his dad or his son and instead kicking villain ass and obtaining rare antiquties. Last Crusade was a little too bogged down in excess and trying to squeeze out some emotion, as if it were trying to validate the series as something more than b-movie throwbacks, which was a mistake. Also, Lucas. I would need a whole forum to describe my issues with him, but I can sum it up by saying he has completely lost it as a filmmaker. He's more obsessed with marketing the movie and how the movie looks than the movie itself. Acting, direction, story...all take a backseat to CGI for him. I know that this shoot had to be a fight with Lucas constantly, and I read that Spielberg was firm in telling Lucas 'no' to many things, but I imagine some of his ideas that did get through will probably be of the same quality as we've seen before as with the prequels and SEs of the beloved original trilogy.

Like I said, I want this to be good. I am a huge Indy fan, and I am as giddy as a schoolboy about this movie. Its like being a kid again, and to hear my favorite musical theme of all time, the Raiders March, will be an unequalled delight. But I still must have my doubts and trepidations, and must not allow my expectations to climb so insurmountably high lest I suffer another mammoth disappointment in the vein of Phantom Menace or Superman Returns.

Great points. I'm hoping this can at least be as good as the first two.

[OctaviusINC]

INDY 4 SOUNDTRACK LISTING
I read the tracks and my heart nearly skipped a beat.
POSSIBLE
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS
http://goneelsewhere.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-biggest-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-spoilers-ever/#more-1196

Fans are sayin' it was a April Fools day prank on a German Indy Site. I hope to god they're right. Because if they're wrong, we're ****ed.

[Watson]

INDY 4 SOUNDTRACK LISTING
I read the tracks and my heart nearly skipped a beat.
POSSIBLE
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS
http://goneelsewhere.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-biggest-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-spoilers-ever/#more-1196

Fans are sayin' it was a April Fools day prank on a German Indy Site. I hope to god they're right. Because if they're wrong, we're ****ed.

:lmao:

My favourite track listing is definitely Don’t Touch my Fedora!

[Stalker1138]

OMFG!! I will kill myself in the theater......

[OctaviusINC]

:lmao:

My favourite track listing is definitely Don’t Touch my Fedora!

Sounds like it could make a great musical number.

[Stalker1138]

OMG I cannot believe they'd

use the Hollywood Orchestra over the London Symphony

I just will cry forever if that is true!! :csad:

[Watson]

Sounds like it could make a great musical number.

Indy the musical...not totally inconcievable, given that's there a Spider-Man musical coming out :oldrazz:.

[Rezzo]

INDY 4 SOUNDTRACK LISTING
I read the tracks and my heart nearly skipped a beat.
POSSIBLE
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS
http://goneelsewhere.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-biggest-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-spoilers-ever/#more-1196

Fans are sayin' it was a April Fools day prank on a German Indy Site. I hope to god they're right. Because if they're wrong, we're ****ed.

Don´t worry it´s fake.

[OctaviusINC]

OMG I cannot believe they'd

use the Hollywood Orchestra over the London Symphony

I just will cry forever if that is true!! :csad:

Well the comments on the site say it's a fake. But still, it scared the **** outta me.

Indy the musical...not totally inconcievable, given that's there a Spider-Man musical coming out :oldrazz:.

Hell, I'd buy tickets to see it.:yay:

[The Amazing Lee]

Doesn't Indy live to be like 90ish...


...Because there was an old Indy in The Young Indy chronicles.

[DoctorJones]

Even though it was removed from the home video releases, yes, George Hall played the 93 year old Indiana, who was still spry (he slid down the stairs of a museum in the pilot).

[Gotham]

INDY 4 SOUNDTRACK LISTING
I read the tracks and my heart nearly skipped a beat.
POSSIBLE
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS
http://goneelsewhere.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-biggest-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-spoilers-ever/#more-1196

Fans are sayin' it was a April Fools day prank on a German Indy Site. I hope to god they're right. Because if they're wrong, we're ****ed.

I really hope I didn't spoil the entire film for myself. Definitely sounds real..

[Gallagher]

I havent clicked the link but if one of those tracks is called 'The death of Dr Jones' or something along those lines and it turns out to be real...

There will be blood :cmad:

[Kent]

It's fake. Fake fake fake.

[Rezzo]

I really hope I didn't spoil the entire film for myself. Definitely sounds real..

It sounds fake and the guy that supposedly made it already admitted to making it on The Raven (http://raven.theraider.net/index.php?).

[Watson]

I really hope I didn't spoil the entire film for myself. Definitely sounds real..

It is so fake. Aside from the guy admitting he did it, look at some of those track listings. Would John Williams write a song called My son is a Greaser?

[Matt Murdock]

I know this is so incredibly off topic, but as far as John Williams is concerned, my favorite piece of his music is "Binary Sunset" from A New Hope

[Watson]

^That is a good one. In terms of Star Wars I really like Duel of the Fates from Ep. I and Across the Stars from Ep. II. His soundtrack for Harry Potter is pretty good to.

[Gallagher]

I know this is so incredibly off topic, but as far as John Williams is concerned, my favorite piece of his music is "Binary Sunset" from A New Hope

You win everything. I love that scene for the music and symbolism.

What happened to you George!!? :csad:

[DarknessOfDeath]

John Williams is da man!

[Cagefighterkip]

^That is a good one. In terms of Star Wars I really like Duel of the Fates from Ep. I and Across the Stars from Ep. II. His soundtrack for Harry Potter is pretty good to.

all williams music rocks, even in lackluster flix (ie HP)

[Captain Planet!]

I saw Raiders of the Lost Ark yesterday... and it was so cool it melted my face off.

I'm looking forward to Indy 4.

[Cagefighterkip]

so is this Indy cartoon a for sure deal or is it just rumors or does anyone knw fo sho yeT?

[Stalker1138]

I know this is so incredibly off topic, but as far as John Williams is concerned, my favorite piece of his music is "Binary Sunset" from A New Hope

Awesome off topic, but actually we could be discussing the birth of Jesus and it still would be an awesome OT post!

Binary Sunset is indeed awesome. I am also a fan of 'Luke and Leia' from ROTJ although it was never used in the movie. I also love the last duel music from ROTJ and Vader's funeral pyre.

Good god I could talk about Williams all day....

[DarknessOfDeath]

Awesome off topic, but actually we could be discussing the birth of Jesus and it still would be an awesome OT post!

Binary Sunset is indeed awesome. I am also a fan of 'Luke and Leia' from ROTJ although it was never used in the movie. I also love the last duel music from ROTJ and Vader's funeral pyre.

Good god I could talk about Williams all day....

Listening to The Rebel Fleet/End title from Empire. :up:

Me too

[Rezzo]

so is this Indy cartoon a for sure deal or is it just rumors or does anyone knw fo sho yeT?

I guess you read that JoBlo (http://www.joblo.com/animated-indy) article wrong cause there is no Indy cartoon being made at the moment.

[the_ultimate_evil]

i most be the only person on here that really isn't that hyped for this film, i have seen the other and will admit they are good films, but seriously when i think of Indiana jones all i can think is meh

anyone else

[DarknessOfDeath]

no... sorry :(

[CorpusBlack]

i most be the only person on here that really isn't that hyped for this film, i have seen the other and will admit they are good films, but seriously when i think of Indiana jones all i can think is meh

anyone else

Nope.

[Stalker1138]

anyone else

Nope.

[Rezzo]

i most be the only person on here that really isn't that hyped for this film, i have seen the other and will admit they are good films, but seriously when i think of Indiana jones all i can think is meh

anyone else

I believe there are a few in the same boat as you, but I´m not one of them.

[Mr. Credible]

i'm in that boat.

i loved the original films, maybe not to the extent that a few people here do, but i did really enjoy them.

but i just can't muster up the desire to care about this movie. it'll probably be good, but lucas' involvement really turns me off, and neither of the trailers piqued my interest in the slightest.

[The_Vision]

i most be the only person on here that really isn't that hyped for this film, i have seen the other and will admit they are good films, but seriously when i think of Indiana jones all i can think is meh

anyone else

Just you :p

[Watson]

Guys they are doing an open casting for the next Indy girl! :wow:

http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/indianajonesgirl/

What a lame prize, unless you're an uber huge Shia fan girl. You should at least get to go to the premiere

[블라스]

I hate the world sometimes.

[Cagefighterkip]

Guys they are doing an open casting for the next Indy girl! :wow:

http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/indianajonesgirl/

What a lame prize, unless you're an uber huge Shia fan girl. You should at least get to go to the premiere

shia has a massive fan base, so itll make someone really hAppy fosho

[The Chris]

I saw this on a rotten tomatoes forum

is this real? I hope so.


http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/data/587/KotCS_april_05.jpg

[The Kid]

Jesus Christ

[Rezzo]

Some new pics of Mutt.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2u9lw88.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2qn4kti.jpg

[Mladen]

i'm in that boat.

i loved the original films, maybe not to the extent that a few people here do, but i did really enjoy them.

but i just can't muster up the desire to care about this movie. it'll probably be good, but lucas' involvement really turns me off, and neither of the trailers piqued my interest in the slightest.

Yeah, i think most people remember really enjoying all of the previous films, but would be hardpressed to get enormously excited about them.

lucas was always involved in the original indi films, but both spielberg and lucas have lost something in their old age. Lucas can still be reigned in by a good director... remains to be seen how the film pans out, but I'd be suprised if they did any melting heads or ripped-out-hearts in this one.

trailers: they DID feel a bit mummy returns to me, especially the moving tombs etc...

[danoyse]

Yeah, i think most people remember really enjoying all of the previous films, but would be hardpressed to get enormously excited about them.

Everyone I know who enjoyed the original films is definitely enormously excited about the new film. Even one of my friends at work who's a bit of an indie film snob is excited about this film.

It's Indiana Jones, for god's sake.

[Prison Mike]

i most be the only person on here that really isn't that hyped for this film, i have seen the other and will admit they are good films, but seriously when i think of Indiana jones all i can think is meh

anyone else

same here. I never got as excited about these films as people here do.

[Watson]

Some new pics of Mutt.




http://i31.tinypic.com/2qn4kti.jpg

I am very interested in that sword fight. I wonder how it will go down on film?

[Mladen]

Everyone I know who enjoyed the original films is definitely enormously excited about the new film. Even one of my friends at work who's a bit of an indie film snob is excited about this film.

It's Indiana Jones, for god's sake.

i just don't think it generates the same kind of buzz that a lot of other films franchises do (probably because Indiana Jones hasn't been mentioned in the mainstream since 1989... and no, the tv series does not count). I don't know the type of people you're talking to, but the people I've spoken to were interested (and said they'd definately see it), but not 'enormously excited'.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing mind you. It'll be a popular film for sure (especially with the average movie-goer), but it doesn't gather the same frothing-at-the-mouth intensity of your average star-wars, lord of the rings, or comic-book-movie fan. its a kind of subdued, "Oh cool, an indiana jones movie. I'll definately go see it." Plus everybody is kind of suprised considering Harrison's age. I think its slightly better for the film, since people won't have ridiculously high expectations.

[turtlefocker]

Jesus Christ

http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/reviewi/rindiana_jones_last_crusade.jpg

*slap* That's for blasphemy.

[cerealkiller182]

People will get excited.The marketing campaign has just begun. The internet stuff is usually primarily only seen by fanboys and bloggers. Plus they are campaigning to other possiblky uninitiated demographic with Shia and Ford at Nickelodeon awards and the Indy contest MTV is sponsoring.

[Cagefighterkip]

I saw this on a rotten tomatoes forum

is this real? I hope so.


http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/data/587/KotCS_april_05.jpg

i hope it is, cuz this is the best poster of the them all...

[jimmylace]

^^^^ Tragically it IS the best poster but its a fake. Its the Last Crusade poster with a recent picture of Harrison photoshopped in and an effect applied.

[Spider-Vader]

This movie had better be good. I don't think I could handle a world where a crap Indiana Jones movie exists. LFODH was bad enough. (yes, imo) ;)
LFODH was waay better than #2 IMO.

so is this Indy cartoon a for sure deal or is it just rumors or does anyone knw fo sho yeT?

Rumor.

Regarding the CD:
I doubt Indy dies. Spielberg & Lucas know it wouldupset, well evryone & he is making this for us fans.

[Cagefighterkip]

LFODH was waay better than #2

agreed, though all the DIE HARD's are (yippykiya)motherf***ing awesome

[Spider-Fan]

agreed, though all the DIE HARD's are (yippykiya)motherf***ing awesome

I disagree...I hated 2, and found 4 to be mediocre at best, but I expected that from a sequel that took that long. Hence my displeasure at the idea of an Indy 4. Far too long between movies. People will be excited. It will make tons (it'll get money from me, I'll end up seeing it once). I just doubt this will be anywhere near the previous 3 movies, and just add to the history of poor to mediocre sequels made due to people trying to recapture past glory. That is all I really see this movie as.

[DocHoliday]

Live Free or Die Hard was a good movie. It ranks right up there with part 3 in my mind.

[Tojo]

I disagree...I hated 2, and found 4 to be mediocre at best, but I expected that from a sequel that took that long. Hence my displeasure at the idea of an Indy 4. Far too long between movies. People will be excited. It will make tons (it'll get money from me, I'll end up seeing it once). I just doubt this will be anywhere near the previous 3 movies, and just add to the history of poor to mediocre sequels made due to people trying to recapture past glory. That is all I really see this movie as.

But they're not trying to recaptur past glory. Ford wanted to another one, Lucas and Spielberg agreed. Lucas said in an interview that this will be ripped apart primarily due to anticiaption, and that neither of them thought people would love it, but they didn't care because they just wanted to have fun with it, and they did.

I love the Indy movies, more than Star Wars infact. I don't particularly like the idea of them making a 4th, but they are so that's that. It won't ruin the 'legacy'. they're only films for christs sake. I think the sci-fi, old man indy is an interesting prospect, but i hate the fact they've used CGI(obvious CGI that is), and i'm not keen on this Mutt character. Cant see the point to him really. Also, why did they not just call it Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull?!

[Cagefighterkip]

Live Free or Die Hard was a good movie. It ranks right up there with part 3 in my mind.

not to take the subject off indy 4 but...
1 - Die Hard
2 - Die Hard With A Vengeance
3 - Live Free or Die Hard (both versions, but the unRated rocks hard)
4 - Die Hard 2: Die Harder

back on the subject of indy, indy flicks rock

[블라스]

I'm just going to type what a lot of people here must be thinking...

All those "Meh, this might be good, but I don't see the big deal about Indy movies..." people can kiss my ass.

[Cagefighterkip]

I'm just going to type what a lot of people here must be thinking...

All those "Meh, this might be good, but I don't see the big deal about Indy movies..." people can kiss my ass.

1... 2... 3...
why are you here then if you dont like indy?

[블라스]

No, wait, you didn't get it....I love Indy :confused:

[Cagefighterkip]

No, wait, you didn't get it....I love Indy :confused:

oh ok, i guess not then

[블라스]

I wasn't very clear, I guess :(

Anyway, Indy rocks and his movies are the best and this one will be no exception.

[Cagefighterkip]

I wasn't very clear, I guess :(

Anyway, Indy rocks and his movies are the best and this one will be no exception.

so true good sir :)

[Rezzo]

Indiana Jones Story Details From Soundtrack Listing (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43891)

Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00171MNM4/comingsoon) has started taking pre-orders for the Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull soundtrack, featuring music composed and conducted by John Williams. The soundtrack is due out in stores on May 20, two days before the movie hits theaters.

The track listing for the soundtrack, which you can view by clicking either the link above or the cover below, offers new spoilers about the various scenes in the movie. We'll let you determine if you're willing to find out some of these details this early, though the listing does keep the ending a secret, something that some listings in the past for other high profile movies haven't done.

http://i27.tinypic.com/os8z95.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00171MNM4/comingsoon)

Here´s the track listing for those that want to check it out.


1. Raiders March
2. Call of the Crystal
3. The Adventures of Mutt
4. Irina's Theme
5. The Snake Pit
6. The Spell of the Skull
7. A Whirl Through Academe
8. The Journey to Akator
9. "Return"
10. The Jungle Chase
11. Orellana's Cradle
12. Grave Robbers
13. Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold
14. Secret Doors and Scorpions
15. Oxley's Dilemma
16. Ants!
17. Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed
18. The Departure
19. Finale

[Nirvana]

It doesn't seem like the track listing reveal anything important...if anything, for me in just confirms that the small creature attack will be ants.

[Golgo-13]

Here´s the track listing for those that want to check it out.


1. Raiders March
2. Call of the Crystal
3. The Adventures of Mutt
4. Irina's Theme
5. The Snake Pit
6. The Spell of the Skull
7. A Whirl Through Academe
8. The Journey to Akator
9. "Return"
10. The Jungle Chase
11. Orellana's Cradle
12. Grave Robbers
13. Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold
14. Secret Doors and Scorpions
15. Oxley's Dilemma
16. Ants!
17. Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed
18. The Departure
19. Finale

Raiders March?

[Rezzo]

Raiders March?

What about it? In case you don´t know that´s the name of the Indiana Jones theme song.

[Golgo-13]

Just wondering if it's the original 'Raiders theme' or something else?

I wonder now if they're going to re-release the 3 original movie's soundtracks after the movie comes out. I just got off Amazon, and the Raiders soundtrack is $74.

Btw, is there any word of another trailer before the movie hits?

[Rezzo]

Btw, is there any word of another trailer before the movie hits?

A new one should be premiering sometime this month.

[DocHoliday]

Here´s the track listing for those that want to check it out.


1. Raiders March
2. Call of the Crystal
3. The Adventures of Mutt
4. Irina's Theme
5. The Snake Pit
6. The Spell of the Skull
7. A Whirl Through Academe
8. The Journey to Akator
9. "Return"
10. The Jungle Chase
11. Orellana's Cradle
12. Grave Robbers
13. Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold
14. Secret Doors and Scorpions
15. Oxley's Dilemma
16. Ants!
17. Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed
18. The Departure
19. Finale

Groovy..I can't wait to hear some of the themes...I mean ALL of the themes.

[Jack Napier]

People out there who were against Indy 4 a year ago will never show their faces again, just like those who bashed Daniel Craig as Bond before "Casino Royale"'s release. I have been behind this movie for years, and now I hear, "Ya know, I just re-watched the trilogy the other day, and they're actually a lot better than I remembered."

The other day, I overheard someone say, "Shia Labeouf is gonna make a great Indiana Jones. I haven't seen the other three, but I know he'll be good." :whatever:

[Watson]

Here´s the track listing for those that want to check it out.


1. Raiders March
2. Call of the Crystal
3. The Adventures of Mutt
4. Irina's Theme
5. The Snake Pit
6. The Spell of the Skull
7. A Whirl Through Academe
8. The Journey to Akator
9. "Return"
10. The Jungle Chase
11. Orellana's Cradle
12. Grave Robbers
13. Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold
14. Secret Doors and Scorpions
15. Oxley's Dilemma
16. Ants!
17. Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed
18. The Departure
19. Finale


Where the hell is Don't touch my Fedora!? :cmad:

[danoyse]

i just don't think it generates the same kind of buzz that a lot of other films franchises do (probably because Indiana Jones hasn't been mentioned in the mainstream since 1989... and no, the tv series does not count). I don't know the type of people you're talking to, but the people I've spoken to were interested (and said they'd definately see it), but not 'enormously excited'.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing mind you. It'll be a popular film for sure (especially with the average movie-goer), but it doesn't gather the same frothing-at-the-mouth intensity of your average star-wars, lord of the rings, or comic-book-movie fan. its a kind of subdued, "Oh cool, an indiana jones movie. I'll definately go see it." Plus everybody is kind of suprised considering Harrison's age. I think its slightly better for the film, since people won't have ridiculously high expectations.

Well the "kind of people" I'm talking to are people my age, who are at least older than 25 and can clearly remember what it was like when that series was new, and how it never stopped being cool.

Most of them don't read these kinds of message boards and don't really fall over each other to get to next superhero film. But us old folks are extremely excited for this movie, definitely more than any other movie this summer. :cwink:

The LOTR fans I know are excited...I'm a huge Star Wars fan and I love Indy too, and I know they're psyched for it. The posters on a Disney message board I read keep starting threads about it.

You really have to look outside that whole fanboy realm to see what a big deal Indiana Jones is. The audience is so much bigger than that.

[DocHoliday]

Everyone I know (17-54) ARE STOKED.

[Mladen]

You really have to look outside that whole fanboy realm to see what a big deal Indiana Jones is. The audience is so much bigger than that.

guy, don't presume to know me.

Could just be a cultural thing, or the lack of any advertising about it here (I live in Australia... the ads aren't even on tv here yet), but apart from the fact that most people I work with here haven't even heard its coming out, they don't really seem to care either way beyond the, "Oh, that sounds cool." and of course "but he's so old"
Different country, different buzz

[danoyse]

guy, don't presume to know me.

Well I'm not a guy, first of all. :cwink:

And I wasn't trying to presume you were anything. You used as an example the LOTR/Star Wars/superhero audience...which for the most part would consist of fanboys.

Not knocking fanboys either...I've been a fangirl myself for most of my life, so I would be insulting myself if I was.

I was pointing out that Indy has such a broad audience that it's not just that group that would be excited...and everyone I know, who wouldn't normally classify as a fanboy/girl, is very excited for the movie.

Could just be a cultural thing, or the lack of any advertising about it here (I live in Australia... the ads aren't even on tv here yet), but apart from the fact that most people I work with here haven't even heard its coming out, they don't really seem to care either way beyond the, "Oh, that sounds cool." and of course "but he's so old"
Different country, different buzz

Maybe. I've seen two ads for it in the US so far: a giant billboard in Times Square, and a cereal promotion in the supermarket. It's not in full swing here yet either. But it's Indy, and even though it's been 19 years since the last movie, people seem to generally excited for the new one.

[Downhere]

Live Free or Die Hard was a good movie. It ranks right up there with part 3 in my mind.

Ditto that. LF or DH was awesome! :up:

[Dr. Fate]

Never liked Die Hard With A Vengeance. Sorry.

[The Geek Vault]

I'm nervous for this film!

[Tempest19]

'Secret revealed'

I'm betting Mutt is Indiana Jones' son now. I doubt if it was a secret about the skull the title would be 'secret revealed', it would be magic of the skull or skull secrets or something.

[Cagefighterkip]

The other day, I overheard someone say, "Shia Labeouf is gonna make a great Indiana Jones. I haven't seen the other three, but I know he'll be good." :whatever:

me too;
thing is i was talking to my ex and she said that exact same thing and i groaned and rolled my eyes about how stupid she sounded

[DoctorJones]

I can't wait to hear the themes Williams has cooked up for the Crystal Skull, Mutt and Spalko, as well as the reprise of Marion's theme.

[Golgo-13]

Jeeez, has John Willliams discovered a real life lazarus pit? How old is this guy?

[DocHoliday]

I can't wait to hear the themes Williams has cooked up for the Crystal Skull, Mutt and Spalko, as well as the reprise of Marion's theme.

I wonder if Mutt would have a rockabilly inspired theme. I doubt it but it's be interesting.

[Rezzo]

Jeeez, has John Willliams discovered a real life lazarus pit? How old is this guy?

He´s 76.

[Spider-Fan]

Live Free or Die Hard was a good movie. It ranks right up there with part 3 in my mind.

I personally disagree, but that's just my personal opinion.

But they're not trying to recaptur past glory. Ford wanted to another one, Lucas and Spielberg agreed. Lucas said in an interview that this will be ripped apart primarily due to anticiaption, and that neither of them thought people would love it, but they didn't care because they just wanted to have fun with it, and they did.

I love the Indy movies, more than Star Wars infact. I don't particularly like the idea of them making a 4th, but they are so that's that. It won't ruin the 'legacy'. they're only films for christs sake. I think the sci-fi, old man indy is an interesting prospect, but i hate the fact they've used CGI(obvious CGI that is), and i'm not keen on this Mutt character. Cant see the point to him really. Also, why did they not just call it Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull?!

This Indy movie is going many directions I think can easily back fire on this. I hate the CGI, the story idea is a major risk, I am not a Shia fan, and also sequels taking this long to be made suck or are mediocre (I have no good examples contradicting my statement, but feel free to throw some out). I happen to think this is an attempt to capitalize on the recent trend of ressurecting film series', but that's just me.

Like I said, it is just my opinion.

[TNC9852002]

What's wrong with CGI? It's not like the effects in the older movies were better than anything that CGI could deliver.

-TNC

[Spider-Fan]

What's wrong with CGI? It's not like the effects in the older movies were better than anything that CGI could deliver.

-TNC

CGI often times looks fake and computerized. The previous Indy movies, the effects looked real. Some shots in this one clearly look fake. Obvious CGI is distracting, at least to me. The Star Wars OT, minus a couple of shots, the effects all looked real. The prequels looked computerized and fake in many parts. It makes me think less of the movie when I don't buy into the reality of the shot.

[TNC9852002]

lol. I just watched the Indy movies last week and the effects were not that good at all. Maybe for its time they were, but they were definitely not mind-blowing to say the least... and no, they aren't quite comparable to the Star Wars movies.

I just don't see enough evidence in what we've seen so far to completely jump the gun on the CGI issue with this movie.

-TNC

[danoyse]

The previous Indy movies, the effects looked real. Some shots in this one clearly look fake.

And so did some of the matte shots in the originals. Plus the miniatures used during the mine chase in TOD was clearly obvious in many shots.

The CGI complaint is so weak. If they'd had it in the 80s, there would have been plenty of it in the originals. And both the old effects and the new effects have their weaknesses, regardless of which one they're using.

[Kent]

CGI often times looks fake and computerized. The previous Indy movies, the effects looked real. Some shots in this one clearly look fake. Obvious CGI is distracting, at least to me. The Star Wars OT, minus a couple of shots, the effects all looked real. The prequels looked computerized and fake in many parts. It makes me think less of the movie when I don't buy into the reality of the shot.

Are you telling me all those frickin' puppets/muppets in the Star Wars OT didn't look like frickin' puppets/muppets to you? :huh:
Because they're painfully obviously frickin' puppets/muppets. Yes, they are frickin' puppets/muppets that are physically there, but they're still frickin' puppets/muppets.

PUPPETS!! MUPPETS!! FRICKIN'!! BACKSLASH!!

Eeer... sorry bout that last part... :o
Point being, I think the reason some people today find CGI bothersome is simply because it's new. Yes you can see it's CGI most of the time, but you can also see when it's puppets, or when it's a stunt man, or when it's a matte painting. They're all fake.

[CorpusBlack]

also sequels taking this long to be made suck or are mediocre (I have no good examples contradicting my statement, but feel free to throw some out). I happen to think this is an attempt to capitalize on the recent trend of ressurecting film series', but that's just me.

I thought 'Rambo (IV)' 20 years after 'Rambo III' was incredibly good and the best in the series after the original 'First Blood'.

[블라스]

Harrison, Steven and George are all going to be so worried about Spider-Fan's disapproval of the movie :(

[Cagefighterkip]

I thought 'Rambo (IV)' 20 years after 'Rambo III' was incredibly good and the best in the series after the original 'First Blood'.

agreed;
also ROCKY BALBOA was the second best in the series after ther first Rocky... and LFoDH was the 3rd best in the series (sorry but DHWAV rocks harD)... lol i dont get the hate, heres hoping Beverly Hills Cop 4 rocks.

[Tojo]

I personally disagree, but that's just my personal opinion.



This Indy movie is going many directions I think can easily back fire on this. I hate the CGI, the story idea is a major risk, I am not a Shia fan, and also sequels taking this long to be made suck or are mediocre (I have no good examples contradicting my statement, but feel free to throw some out). I happen to think this is an attempt to capitalize on the recent trend of ressurecting film series', but that's just me.

Like I said, it is just my opinion.

Don't agree. This has been in development for 18 or so years. Neither of them(Ford, lucas, Spielberg) need the exposure or money, let's face it. Ford has always wanted to do another one, and he even said that if it doesn't get made by 2008 then to forget it altogether. I can't see how it is capitilising, it's just coincedental to me, given that it has been in development hell ever since Crusade.

How is the story a mjor risk? Because it's 'sci-Fi'? Set in the late 50's? Don't get it. I have no opinion on Shia lebof or whatever the hell his name is. Never seen him act. If he's Indy's son, well thats another matter. Not sure i'll care if he is. It won't be as shockingly horrible as Superman having a son atleast. And yes, the CGI is something i don't like either. The shot of the plane over the ocean looks like a computer game, as does the car chase on the cliff.

[Tempest19]

I'm surprised no one else caught the possibility of a MAJOR SR level spoiler in the soundtrack listings.

[Iceman]

Are you telling me all those frickin' puppets/muppets in the Star Wars OT didn't look like frickin' puppets/muppets to you? :huh:
Because they're painfully obviously frickin' puppets/muppets. Yes, they are frickin' puppets/muppets that are physically there, but they're still frickin' puppets/muppets.

PUPPETS!! MUPPETS!! FRICKIN'!! BACKSLASH!!

Eeer... sorry bout that last part... :o
Point being, I think the reason some people today find CGI bothersome is simply because it's new. Yes you can see it's CGI most of the time, but you can also see when it's puppets, or when it's a stunt man, or when it's a matte painting. They're all fake.Haha :up:

[Cagefighterkip]

'Secret revealed'

I'm betting Mutt is Indiana Jones' son now. I doubt if it was a secret about the skull the title would be 'secret revealed', it would be magic of the skull or skull secrets or something.

we can hope so; i know im in a minority but i love that aspect of indy4... but i was behind indy having a kid even back when natalie portman was rumored as his daughter

[OctaviusINC]

we can hope so; i know im in a minority but i love that aspect of indy4... but i was behind indy having a kid even back when natalie portman was rumored as his daughter

That brings up a good question, We basically know that Mutt is Indy's son, and in the Young Indy Chronicles we briefly see his daughter. But hypothetically speaking, if Indy had to have ONE Kid, One kid to continue his adventuring, would you want it to be a son or daughter?

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

They have Indiana Jones Snicker Bars & M&Ms now.:up::woot: I bought the Snickers. The wrappers are little collectibles in a way. They each have a little fact on them. I got #4 out of 8 & it said how the Indy name came from GL's dog named Indiana.
It's coconut flavored.:up: Tasted yummy.:o:indy:

[Cagefighterkip]

That brings up a good question, We basically know that Mutt is Indy's son, and in the Young Indy Chronicles we briefly see his daughter. But hypothetically speaking, if Indy had to have ONE Kid, One kid to continue his adventuring, would you want it to be a son or daughter?

maybe he has a daughter with willy... or elsa or something... hmmm... and discovers her later in life...

[Prison Mike]

That brings up a good question, We basically know that Mutt is Indy's son, and in the Young Indy Chronicles we briefly see his daughter. But hypothetically speaking, if Indy had to have ONE Kid, One kid to continue his adventuring, would you want it to be a son or daughter?

I'd like to see a son. If Shia is his son, then I'm happy with it. I'm not trying to be sexist or anything, but I just prefer a son to carry on the legacy.

[Cagefighterkip]

I'd like to see a son. If Shia is his son, then I'm happy with it. I'm not trying to be sexist or anything, but I just prefer a son to carry on the legacy.

just remembered hearing, old indy stuff in young indy chronicles isnt cannon anymore cuz it was removed from the dvd's

[danoyse]

Saw this on a NYC sightseeing bus when I went out for lunch today:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/IndyBus.jpg

Looks like Indy is running from the tourists...and I certainly can't blame him for that. :oldrazz:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Hahah. Nice.

[Cagefighterkip]

Saw this on a NYC sightseeing bus when I went out for lunch today:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/IndyBus.jpg

Looks like Indy is running from the tourists...and I certainly can't blame him for that. :oldrazz:

this made my night

[DoctorJones]

just remembered hearing, old indy stuff in young indy chronicles isnt cannon anymore cuz it was removed from the dvd's

Indiana Jones doesn't have a particular canon like Star Wars though. Lucas just re-edited all the episodes into feature films. As for Indiana's family, maybe he and Marion finally settled down: kids at an advanced age isn't surprising anymore.

[StrainedEyes]

Indiana Jones doesn't have a particular canon like Star Wars though. Lucas just re-edited all the episodes into feature films. As for Indiana's family, maybe he and Marion finally settled down: kids at an advanced age isn't surprising anymore.

Hahaha "Advanced age" :dry: Who the hell says that?

And kid's at an "Advanced age" have a much higher risk of birth defects. If Indy and Marion had a kid in their 60s, they are being very irresponsible.

[nightwing06]

http://http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/indybanner1.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/indybanner1.jpg

[The Kid]

Are you telling me all those frickin' puppets/muppets in the Star Wars OT didn't look like frickin' puppets/muppets to you? :huh:
Because they're painfully obviously frickin' puppets/muppets. Yes, they are frickin' puppets/muppets that are physically there, but they're still frickin' puppets/muppets.

PUPPETS!! MUPPETS!! FRICKIN'!! BACKSLASH!!

Eeer... sorry bout that last part... :o
Point being, I think the reason some people today find CGI bothersome is simply because it's new. Yes you can see it's CGI most of the time, but you can also see when it's puppets, or when it's a stunt man, or when it's a matte painting. They're all fake.

That argument doesn't really hold water. There's good puppetry and there's bad puppetry. There's good CGI and there's bad CGI. So Quality/skills/craftsmanship isn't really related to whatever method's used to achieve the illusion.

I mean just look at the magic wobbling pants. That looked more fake than yoda in my opinion.

[The Chris]

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[TNC9852002]

I agree that the SFX back are just as fake and noticeable as the SFX we use today (or just as good and not noticeable), so whether you like either, neither, or both, the human eye/brain will always attune itself whenever something out of the ordinary is present. There's no way of getting around it.

-TNC

[DoctorJones]

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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1208/indianajones420yo0sj1nu6.jpg

The latter image recalls Raiders when he starts grabbing everyone's baskets.

[Webhead2006]

sweet indy pics.

[블라스]

Those pics are just badass.

[Cagefighterkip]

The latter image recalls Raiders when he starts grabbing everyone's baskets.

i hope this doesn't reference and do too many callbacks to RAIDERS... it looks fantastic but ive heard about another boulder scene and running from the tribespeople, like running from the hovitos... and now this, im sure this will rock but i hope it isnt too self referential

[turtlefocker]

i hope this doesn't reference and do too many callbacks to RAIDERS... it looks fantastic but ive heard about another boulder scene and running from the tribespeople, like running from the hovitos... and now this, im sure this will rock but i hope it isnt too self referential

hopefully when Spielberg said "for the fans" he wasn't referring to their being a lot of nods to the most memorable moments of the previous three films...

[Gold Samurai]

and running from the tribespeople, like running from the hovitos

well that we can't avoid, as we've see that in the trailer. Hopefully Jock is still around, although he'll have to make room for marion and mutt.

[The Kid]

I don't know how I'm keeping my cool right now. That's ****ing indiana jones up there damnit and it's coming soon to a theater near me. How did I get so lucky? I'm not that great...

[Matt Murdock]

Am I the only person who's almost dreading a rehash of the "Dad?" "What?!" "DAD!" "WHAT?!" scene from tLC, only with Mutt and Indy?

[Spider-Fan]

agreed;
also ROCKY BALBOA was the second best in the series after ther first Rocky... and LFoDH was the 3rd best in the series (sorry but DHWAV rocks harD)... lol i dont get the hate, heres hoping Beverly Hills Cop 4 rocks.

Rocky Balboa was mediocre. Better than V and IV, but II and III were better movies. I also feel LFODH was mediocre. Ending DH at 3 would have been fine, but at least a mediocre ending to Rocky was better than a terrible one (only reason I support that movie).

Don't agree. This has been in development for 18 or so years. Neither of them(Ford, lucas, Spielberg) need the exposure or money, let's face it. Ford has always wanted to do another one, and he even said that if it doesn't get made by 2008 then to forget it altogether. I can't see how it is capitilising, it's just coincedental to me, given that it has been in development hell ever since Crusade.

How is the story a mjor risk? Because it's 'sci-Fi'? Set in the late 50's? Don't get it. I have no opinion on Shia lebof or whatever the hell his name is. Never seen him act. If he's Indy's son, well thats another matter. Not sure i'll care if he is. It won't be as shockingly horrible as Superman having a son atleast. And yes, the CGI is something i don't like either. The shot of the plane over the ocean looks like a computer game, as does the car chase on the cliff.

Putting aliens and such can easily back fire on this series. Indy movies all have investigation to items and such from history. Things easily researched from the past. Sci-Fi in this case is a major risk, as that has not been Indy's niche.

And so did some of the matte shots in the originals. Plus the miniatures used during the mine chase in TOD was clearly obvious in many shots.

The CGI complaint is so weak. If they'd had it in the 80s, there would have been plenty of it in the originals. And both the old effects and the new effects have their weaknesses, regardless of which one they're using.

The OT of Star Wars had more real looking scenes than the prequels did. I said it had some bad shots in them, but the vast majority looked great, and I believed the world that the characters were in. The prequels looked like a video game, and thus harder to buy into that world.

Are you telling me all those frickin' puppets/muppets in the Star Wars OT didn't look like frickin' puppets/muppets to you? :huh:
Because they're painfully obviously frickin' puppets/muppets. Yes, they are frickin' puppets/muppets that are physically there, but they're still frickin' puppets/muppets.

PUPPETS!! MUPPETS!! FRICKIN'!! BACKSLASH!!

Eeer... sorry bout that last part... :o
Point being, I think the reason some people today find CGI bothersome is simply because it's new. Yes you can see it's CGI most of the time, but you can also see when it's puppets, or when it's a stunt man, or when it's a matte painting. They're all fake.

Muppets look better than CGI animation in many cases. Are you telling me Yoda looked better in Eps II and III? If so, I think you are dead wrong. Yes, I know it is a muppet, but the thought doesn't cross my mind when I see the muppet, that comes when the movie is over, unlike when I can see the poor CGI video game version.

I thought 'Rambo (IV)' 20 years after 'Rambo III' was incredibly good and the best in the series after the original 'First Blood'.

Rambo sucked really bad imo. It didn't even achieve mediocrity like LFoDH or Rocky Balboa did. I have not seen III or II in years, but Rambo was NOWHERE NEAR the quality of First Blood. Not even close.

I still see no examples I agree with.

[danoyse]

The OT of Star Wars had more real looking scenes than the prequels did. I said it had some bad shots in them, but the vast majority looked great, and I believed the world that the characters were in. The prequels looked like a video game, and thus harder to buy into that world.


But we're not talking about Star Wars, we're talking about Indiana Jones. There's a difference when one series takes place in a made-up world and another that takes place here.

The other difference is that we've seen all 6 movies Star Wars movie and can fairly compare the special effects in both trilogies. You're making this proclamation that the CGI looks fake in Indy IV based on a 90-second trailer.

[Rezzo]

Am I the only person who's almost dreading a rehash of the "Dad?" "What?!" "DAD!" "WHAT?!" scene from tLC, only with Mutt and Indy?

Never thought about this until now.

[Cagefighterkip]

Am I the only person who's almost dreading a rehash of the "Dad?" "What?!" "DAD!" "WHAT?!" scene from tLC, only with Mutt and Indy?

i love that scene lol

[Golgo-13]

hopefully when Spielberg said "for the fans" he wasn't referring to their being a lot of nods to the most memorable moments of the previous three films...

I just hope they don't go over board with the nods. Like one every frickin scene.

[WormyT]

we can hope so; i know im in a minority but i love that aspect of indy4... but i was behind indy having a kid even back when natalie portman was rumored as his daughter

Oh God, Natalie Portman, can you imagine?

Being reminded of The Phantom Menace in every scene shes in.
:waa:

[Gamma Ray]

Are you telling me all those frickin' puppets/muppets in the Star Wars OT didn't look like frickin' puppets/muppets to you? :huh:
Because they're painfully obviously frickin' puppets/muppets. Yes, they are frickin' puppets/muppets that are physically there, but they're still frickin' puppets/muppets.

PUPPETS!! MUPPETS!! FRICKIN'!! BACKSLASH!!

Eeer... sorry bout that last part... :o
Point being, I think the reason some people today find CGI bothersome is simply because it's new. Yes you can see it's CGI most of the time, but you can also see when it's puppets, or when it's a stunt man, or when it's a matte painting. They're all fake.
They are all fake, but having something on the set for (1) the actors to interact with and (2) that provides natural shadowing, lighting, drooping, etc. adds the realism that CGI lacks.

[DoctorJones]

I was thinking the other day about aliens equating with gods, and I remembered these characters from the Transformers (Beast Era to be specific).

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/d/d4/Purple_vok.jpg

The Vok were the evolutionary endpoint, and placed many artifacts on prehistoric Earth in the show. Funny coincidence, I guess the aliens/gods in the film may be personified by a giant cloudy skull.

[Gotham]

Never thought about this until now.

Neither have I.

Yes, though. I'm somewhat dreading it. Now that I think about it, anyway.