Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[DarknessOfDeath]

Me too. Im hoping to see it tomorrow or perhaps the weekend but we'll see. I went to see ROTS on opening night by myself. :(

I'm gonna get my friend to come if she's still interested. I know she wants to see it

[Dark Donnie]

I loved both trailers. Eagle Eye looks very promising.

Good to hear, hopefully I get that and the Benjamin Button trailor when I go tonight

[The Incredible Hulk]

I REALLY want this movie to be good. I left the theater at each of the first 3 movies being really blown away (of course I was 6, 9, and 14 at the time) and just dont want to be let down now that I'm 33 and far more critical of everything...

[Bim]

I just found out we're gonna have an early premiere...TODAY :wow:

I'm trying to get myself in there :hehe:, wish me luck! :woot:

[DarknessOfDeath]

I just found out we're gonna have an early premiere...TODAY :wow:

I'm trying to get myself in there :hehe:, wish me luck! :woot:

Good luck Bim :)

[Han Solo] "Your gonna need it" ;) [/Han Solo]

[luke1234]

hey everyone, i just saw a screening of the new indiana jones last night at my movie theater and im sorry to say this spider-tim and tortel and all the other indy fans but it just wasnt that good of a movie. Too much cgi was used, the story was unbelievable and the action sequences just got way too rediculous for me to even take seriously. The script was boring the characters were all 1 dimensional, even indy wasnt up to speed. Im sorry to give it a bad review im just expressing my opinion. I feel like george lucas paid off the critics for this film because i cant believe that all these critics actually really like this movie. The original 3 were so much better. Anyways just thought i would share this with you, by all means go see the film just be prepared to see some ridiculous stuff.

im gonna have to watch it again to make sure i was watching the right movie because it seems everyone else is liking it

[DarknessOfDeath]

I didn't read that :(

[BloodyWolverine]

You know there is alot of early viewing for a film so tightly kept underwraps so i am will to guess you guys except for Supe's saw it down loaded version or just wanna vent because you never liked the idea to start with. I have a feeling we are gonna get alot of DMC and PM hate mail for Indy 4.

They make Indy 4 after years of people wining when will we get another movie and when people get it they dump on what they wanted. Which is reall silly a fan of film who liked the movies will like Indy 4 for the fact Indy is back
But some nerds will tear it apart if one little thing is off.

[luke1234]

I didn't read that :(

ha im sorry man i know it sucks, hey you might like it just for me theres a line of unbelivable action scenes and ridiculous occurrences, indy 4 just crossed that line to a point where i couldn't believe in any of the characters and action scenes that was taking place im sorry

[luke1234]

You know there is alot of early viewing for a film so tightly kept underwraps so i am will to guess you guys except for Supe's saw it down loaded version or just wanna vent because you never liked the idea to start with. I have a feeling we are gonna get alot of DMC and PM hate mail for Indy 4.

They make Indy 4 after years of people wining when will we get another movie and when people get it they dump on what they wanted. Which is reall silly a fan of film who liked the movies will like Indy 4 for the fact Indy is back
But some nerds will tear it apart if one little thing is off.

Its not like that man, Im one of the biggest indiana jones fans, i love the guy for gods sake but this movie just wasnt what i was expecting. Im sorry i didnt like it but im not trying to ruin everyones hype for indy im just expressing my opinion to give others a heads up to whats to come.

[War Party]

Unbelievable action scenes and ridiculous occurrences is what I want. I thought those were in the other films too.

[BloodyWolverine]

Can't please some people i guess. Well i am gonna go and have fun and remember National Treasure has become a good franchise with Indy tones so it hard to beat NT when there actually good.

[luke1234]

Unbelievable action scenes and ridiculous occurrences is what I want. I thought those were in the other films too.

they were but there was also a sense of just maybe this could happen, i guess it was the cgi and the scale that was just too ridiculous you'll know what i mean when you see the first getaway scene

[DarknessOfDeath]

You know there is alot of early viewing for a film so tightly kept underwraps so i am will to guess you guys except for Supe's saw it down loaded version or just wanna vent because you never liked the idea to start with. I have a feeling we are gonna get alot of DMC and PM hate mail for Indy 4.

They make Indy 4 after years of people wining when will we get another movie and when people get it they dump on what they wanted. Which is reall silly a fan of film who liked the movies will like Indy 4 for the fact Indy is back
But some nerds will tear it apart if one little thing is off.


*nods in agreement*

well Im taking Supes word for it cause I always thought the original 3 were fun, exciting and adventurous and thats what I asked Supes, he said Indy4 is like that.

Its not like I expect everything to be perfect about this movie when the other ones weren't as nearly perfect so I don;t care either way.

I have never seen the other 3 in theaters so this is my chance to see an Indy film on the big screen :up:

[War Party]

So is Spielberg lying when he said 30% of the effects is CGI?

[BloodyWolverine]

Its not like that man, Im one of the biggest indiana jones fans, i love the guy for gods sake but this movie just wasnt what i was expecting. Im sorry i didnt like it but im not trying to ruin everyones hype for indy im just expressing my opinion to give others a heads up to whats to come.
I mean no offense but this is a summer film blowem ups is what summer pop corn people want usually. I had the same feeling over Spiderman when i first saw it i didn't like it but i grew to like it.

[luke1234]

i will say this, it was good to see indy back on the big screen because i never got to experience that

[luke1234]

So is Spielberg lying when he said 30% of the effects is CGI?

every action scene has cgi in it so he might be

[DarknessOfDeath]

Unbelievable action scenes and ridiculous occurrences is what I want. I thought those were in the other films too.

Yeah... take the blow up raft from TOD when Indy, Short round and the woman escape the plane before it crashes into the mountains. lols

[War Party]

I thought this was an insightful article on the effects of the film.

Just when I thought that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull didn't have any major buzz (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/26/more-indiana-jones-iv-photos-are-you-getting-excited-yet/), not only does it make one hell of a comeback by topping the Most Anticipated Summer 2008 Movies (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/31/the-moviegoers-most-anticipated-summer-2008-movie-still-indy-4/) list and debuting a new TV spot (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/29/new-indiana-jones-4-tv-spot-whips-into-action/), but now another solid article that's guaranteed to generate even more buzz hits. Our friends at io9 (http://io9.com/374266/indiana-jones-will-be-mostly-cgi+free-designer-tells-io9) caught up with production designer Guy Hendrix Dyas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0245596/), who built all of the sets for Indy 4, and heard some very interesting things - primarily that they built almost all of the sets and there really isn't too much CGI.
Dyas is one of today's phenomenal production designers, currently with X-Men 2, Superman Returns, Elizabeth: The Golden Age, and Indiana Jones 4 under his belt. You can see a gallery of some of his work over at io9 (http://io9.com/374266/indiana-jones-will-be-mostly-cgi+free-designer-tells-io9). However, let's get back to the topic at hand. Dyas told io9:"There really wasn't much CGI. We built all the sets… We built all of the [moving stone staircases, converging stone pillars and other pieces] so it was very nice."
He also goes on to say that they used little to no greenscreen. However, I wouldn't be so quick to jump on a quote like that and say there really will be no CGI in the end. I even remember hearing from Spielberg that the reason the trailer was so late was because they wanted 100% finished scenes and they weren't ready until recently. Peter from SlashFilm (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/03/31/indiana-jones-4-production-designer-says-film-is-mostly-cgi-free/) calms our nerves, however, saying that "Spielberg estimated during production that 30% of the visual effects would be CGI, but mostly for elements such as backdrops and rotoscope removal of the visible safety wires during stunt sequences. Apparently, the finished film will contain only 'a couple of hundred' effects shots, compared to Michael Bay's Transformers which featured almost 650 effects shots or Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3 which featured almost 1,000 effects shots."
I really don't think that having CGI, albeit minimally, in a movie (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/31/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-is-nearly-cgi-free/#) like Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a bad thing. I do think it's a good thing that they used the least amount they could, because I think it will stay truer to its roots, but if CGI is used in the right ways, I don't imagine it would be that detrimental. However, I do commend Spielberg for choosing to mimic as closely as possible the techniques they used to film the first three Indiana Jones movies (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/31/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-is-nearly-cgi-free/#). I hate it when sequels have a disconnected feeling because one decided to use CGI as opposed to the original methods.
Although the first few trailers haven't been overly exciting, the first intro bit in the last TV spot (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/29/new-indiana-jones-4-tv-spot-whips-into-action/) did make me feel a bit nostalgic. I'm very excited to see Indiana Jones (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/31/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-is-nearly-cgi-free/#) return to the big screen again and I'm still holding out hoping that this will live up to the first three.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/31/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-is-nearly-cgi-free/

[luke1234]

Yeah... take the blow up raft from TOD when Indy, Short round and the woman escape the plane before it crashes into the mountains. lols

yeah but that was the only scene that was ridiculous in that movie, in KOtCS it was like that for every action sequence

[DarknessOfDeath]

oh im sure theres more but I can't think of any for it now..

[BloodyWolverine]

It sound like an Indiana Jones movie too me but i think it will be better then the Prequel Star Wars films. But maybe not as good as TDK which i expect to be the best 2008 film.

[War Party]

All the movies have unbelievable action scenes and ridiculous moments. That's part why these films are great. It just surprises me that this would be a negative in the new film. But hey, I haven't seen the movie yet, so I may agree with you. I doubt it, but there's a slim chance.

[luke1234]

It sound like an Indiana Jones movie too me but i think it will be better then the Prequel Star Wars films. But maybe not as good as TDK which i expect to be the best 2008 film.
yeah i agree with that, i just felt like Indiana Jones 4 just had way too many unnecessary things going on with it, like the Cgi animals

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[FilmNerdJamie]

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[BloodyWolverine]

oh im sure theres more but I can't think of any for it now..
The Rope Bridge Sceen where Indy Cuts it and the natives fall and then theres the hotel posioning and street car chase.

[DarknessOfDeath]

yeah and I meant the other films too

[DarknessOfDeath]

mmmmmmm liv tyler


Edit: that was a double post

[luke1234]

The Rope Bridge Sceen where Indy Cuts it and the natives fall and then theres the hotel posioning and street car chase.

yeah they were cool, but the way they were filmed made a lil more belivable, i dont know i cant explain it i wish i could tell you some of the scenes to express what im trying to say but i dont want to spoil the movie to anyone

[Nirvana]

I'm so excited for tonight! I'm going to Disney to watch this (and meeting up with a fellow SHH! member) so it should be pretty sweet :up:

[Rezzo]

I absolutely can't wait anymore, I'm so excited to see this. :grin:

[Bim]

I'm going crazy here, i'm trying to plan my escape from work earlier :hehe:

[Cagefighterkip]

just over 12 hours away... :)

[The Man of Steel]

I absolutely can't wait anymore, I'm so excited to see this. :grin:
Me to, :woot:
I Just finished Raiders of the Lost Ark and now it's on to Temple of Doom:indy:

[Captain Planet!]

I hope it's playing at the Drive-In this weekend. That's where I want to see it.

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[Rocker22]

A friend of mine got into a screening of it last night and when I asked him what he thought he just put his hand up and gave a so-so. Given that he wasn't a fan of the old ones not a big surprise.

[Cagefighterkip]

A friend of mine got into a screening of it last night and when I asked him what he thought he just put his hand up and gave a so-so. Given that he wasn't a fan of the old ones not a big surprise.

if you dont like old indys, why would that same person like a NEW indy? his "so so" review is kinda worthless to any indy fan anyways...

[Fanticon]

Got my tix and gettin' in line at 8pm for the midnight show!!! Its soooo close now!

[Rocker22]

if you dont like old indys, why would that same person like a NEW indy? his "so so" review is kinda worthless to any indy fan anyways...

Just because someone doesn't like the original movie of anything doesn't mean they won't like a sequel.

[War Party]

Got my tix and gettin' in line at 8pm for the midnight show!!! Its soooo close now!

8 PM? Really?

[Cagefighterkip]

Just because someone doesn't like the original movie of anything doesn't mean they won't like a sequel.

well you said he didnt like the original indy's (as in plural, as in all of them). my thought was if they didnt like raiders, crusade or doom why would they enjoy crystal skull?

[Rocker22]

He liked the first, he didn't like the 2nd, and he thought the 3rd was good but not as good as the first. So it was really up in the air anyway, and his so-so pretty much goes along with what everybody else has been saying in terms of critics and some fans.

[Cagefighterkip]

He liked the first, he didn't like the 2nd, and he thought the 3rd was good but not as good as the first. So it was really up in the air anyway, and his so-so pretty much goes along with what everybody else has been saying in terms of critics and some fans.

oh ok, misunderstood

[GhostPoet]

Just because someone doesn't like the original movie of anything doesn't mean they won't like a sequel.

Normally I would agree with that. But in this case I don't....it's an exception. If you don't like the style of the original three, then you are likely not going to like the 4th.

(even though I can't fathom a person who doesn't like Indy)

[Untilteld]

Alright at the end of Raiders, (I'm an indiana noob, just bought all 3) Jones' crate is being pulled into that warehouse, are all of those crates in there from him? :dry:

[Rezzo]

Alright at the end of Raiders, (I'm an indiana noob, just bought all 3) Jones' crate is being pulled into that warehouse, are all of those crates in there from him? :dry:

No they are not all from him.

[Shifty]

Alright at the end of Raiders, (I'm an indiana noob, just bought all 3) Jones' crate is being pulled into that warehouse, are all of those crates in there from him? :dry:

No the US Army stashes it there with other items they want kept safe but secret.

[Fanticon]

8 PM? Really?

Its a war zone out here:cwink:

[War Party]

I'll probably get to my theater around 11:45. Got the tickets already, so no need to arrive early. And finding good seats won't be a problem since it's just me and a friend.

[Fanticon]

11:45?! Hmmm...well good luck. Its just me and my gf but I gotta play it safe...I've been to too many of these to risk getting in line that late. Maybe I'll head over around 9pm. :woot:

[War Party]

I've never had a problem going to midnight showings. usually get there 5-10 min. before and always get great seats. The Regal theaters are huge and they usually open two theaters for these things.

[Shifty]

Harrison Ford will be on Conan tonight. He's been great on his three previous appearences. Conan always asked him about Indy 4, he's a fanboy, and now they can talk about it.

Ford on Conan
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Ford in Water to Wine as a favour to his son A MUST WATCH
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[Sugarculted]

Just received a text asking if I wanted to see Indy at midnight. I would've loved to, if I had moneys.
:(:(:(

[The Apatow Crew]

Just received a text asking if I wanted to see Indy at midnight. I would've loved to, if I had moneys.
:(:(:(Just ask them to pay for you and tell them your pay them back later.

[luke1234]

im working the midnight showing tonight haha this should be funny

[Kanon]

Damn, no midnight showing over here... I just called and bought my ticket for tomorrow night :)

[Moviefan2k4]

I haven't seen any of the first 3 films in quite a long time, but "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" looks like it'll be a truly great ride. I'll be attending the 4PM show tomorrow (budget reasons), so I'm really looking forward to it.

[The Amazing Lee]

Although she isn't fussed...I said I'd take my girlfriend...she doesn't come home til Sunday and I most probably won't see her til Monday.

GAH!

:(

[Fanticon]

I've never had a problem going to midnight showings. usually get there 5-10 min. before and always get great seats. The Regal theaters are huge and they usually open two theaters for these things.

this particular theater is showing it on 4 screens all at midnight...all of 'em huge...and I'm still gettin there early. They're only setting up one line and you can pick which theater you want to go to once you get in. Its gonna be crazy. :woot: I'm gonna wear my Temple of Doom shirt...show my fanboyism!

[Octoberist]

i'm going tonight!

[Bim]

this particular theater is showing it on 4 screens all at midnight...all of 'em huge...and I'm still gettin there early. They're only setting up one line and you can pick which theater you want to go to once you get in. Its gonna be crazy. :woot: I'm gonna wear my Temple of Doom shirt...show my fandom!
Bring ur whip, and get anyone that tries to run ahead of u :indy::hehe:

[Fanticon]

who gave it a 1? By default its impossible.

[Bim]

Some Indy haters :whatever:

[TNC9852002]

Kung Fu Panda and Eagle Eye. :up:
Only two trailers?


Yeah right!

-TNC

[Octoberist]

no..come on...there has to be more than that.

[Bim]

I'm off to see Indy, it starts in half hour :indy:

I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow with my non spoiler report :woot:

[Rezzo]

I'm off to see Indy, it starts in half hour :indy:

I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow with my non spoiler report :woot:

Enjoy the adventure. :up:

[The Man of Steel]

I'm going to see it in 5 and a half hours

[CFE]

Man I wish it was true about those scenes of Indy from the first trailer being of him going after the Ark in the US Government Warehouse...but I have a feeling that won't be the case.

Still can't wait to see it though. I'll be going Saturday AND Monday to see it twice. Should be very worthwhile.

CFE

[The Man of Steel]

i'm probably gonna see about 12 million times

[The Man of Steel]

I'm off to see Indy, it starts in half hour :indy:

I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow with my non spoiler report :woot:
i have to wait 5 more hours :(

[TNC9852002]

Time to take my nap!

-TNC

[The Man of Steel]

lol, almost time to watch Last Crusade for me :woot:

[The Amazing Lee]

Am watching Temple of Doom, as we speak. :)

[War Party]

In regards to the movie, I think Ebert said it best:

I can say that if you liked the other Indiana Jones movies, you will like this one, and that if you did not, there is no talking to you.

Granted, I haven't seen the film yet. But I see no way me not liking this movie.

[The Man of Steel]

Am watching Temple of Doom, as we speak. :)
same here :indy::up::woot:

[The Amazing Lee]

:woot:

[Rezzo]

In regards to the movie, I think Ebert said it best:

I can say that if you liked the other Indiana Jones movies, you will like this one, and that if you did not, there is no talking to you.

Granted, I haven't seen the film yet. But I see no way me not liking this movie.

My feelings exactly.

[The Man of Steel]

In regards to the movie, I think Ebert said it best:

from Ebert and Roper?

[Rezzo]

from Ebert and Roper?

Yes.

[The Man of Steel]

Oh, thanks. In that case I Agree to

[BloodyWolverine]

who gave this movie 2 votes for a 1 now come on no Indy movie should geta 1 vote even the worst one for a worst Indy film is better then 3 Pirates movies lol.
I loved The Pirates movies thats just how much more i liked the Indy movies its number 2 trilogy and i believe it will be a good film but i am not going over blown fan crazy and get mad of cgi for come on Harrison is 65.

[The Man of Steel]

lol, Agreed :woot::up:

[Rezzo]

who gave this movie 2 votes for a 1 now come on no Indy movie should geta 1 vote even the worst one for a worst Indy film is better then 3 Pirates movies lol.

Haters, that's who. :down

[The Man of Steel]

which one of these TV spots would y'all say is the best?

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TV Spot 3 (5.6.08):
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Flash Player (http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html?deeplink=videos/1/v37)

TV Spot 4 (5.6.08):
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TV Spot 5 (5.6.08):
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Flash Player (http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html?deeplink=videos/1/v39)

TV Spot 6 (5.6.08):
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TV Spot 7 (5.6.08):
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TV Spot 8 (5.6.08):
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TV Spot 10 (5.15.08):
QuickTime (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tvspots/IJ_tvs10_professor_1080p.mov), High Definition (1080p)
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TV Spot 11 (5.15.08):
Flash Player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPoHbbuNk_Y&fmt=18)

TV Spot 12 (5.15.08):
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TV Spot 14 (5.20.08):
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[Fanticon]

update...the theater I'm going to see this at just opened up another screen for midnight! They must be close to full capacity on some of the other shwoings...Go, Indy! :indy:

[SuperKoala]

go indy

[BloodyWolverine]

I like the M & M's commercial and i liked the best but the two best movies spots was the one where Indy is telling mutt about the skulls in like a diner the tv spot during wrestling one and the one that showed Indy getting the rocket louncher and Marian says she didn't think he planned that far ahead.

[The Guardian]

I PICKED UP MY TICKET THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE MIDNIGHT SHOW TONIGHT!!!:indy: I BOUGHT A NEW INDY T-SHIRT WHICH I WILL BE SPORTING TONIGHT AND I'VE BOUGHT ALMOST ALL OF THE ACTION FIGURES, ABOUT 200 DOLLARS WORTH OF FIGURES, YEAH I'M NUTS, BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY I'M A BIG INDY FAN!!!:D:up: I'VE BEEN STAYING AWAY FROM THIS THREAD SO I DON'T SPOIL THE MOVIE, BUT I'LL BE READING IT UNTIL TONIGHT AND BE BACK AFTER I'VE SEEN IT TO POST MY THOUGHTS, I'M SURE IT'LL BE GREAT!!!:D:up: MAN I'M SUCH A DORK LOL!!!:oldrazz::D

[SuperKoala]

I can't express in words how much I appreciate the indiana jones trilogy. I hope this one doesnt let us down

[Golgo-13]

I'm going to catch a matinee tomorrow.

[Rezzo]

I can't express in words how much I appreciate the indiana jones trilogy. I hope this one doesnt let us down

Well from the look of the trailers I don't think I'll be disappointed cause it looks like an Indiana Jones adventure to me. :up:

[french joker]

I'm a BIG fan of the original trilogy, but oh god, that was awful.
The script is just a total non-sense, the characters are meaning-less, and every single scene got bad CGI.
I won't spoil you, but the end made me feel ashamed for Spielberg.

But the thing that i really HATED is that the character of Indiana Jones is totally destroyed, say goodbye to the archeologist who used to be your hero when you were a child. Say hello to the secret agent who works for the FBI !

What have you done Steven ?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[The Man of Steel]

Well from the look of the trailers I don't think I'll be disappointed cause it looks like an Indiana Jones adventure to me. :up:
to me too

[War Party]

I'm a BIG fan of the original trilogy, but oh god, that was awful.
The script is just a total non-sense, the characters are meaning-less, and every single scene got bad CGI.
I won't spoil you, but the end made me feel ashamed for Spielberg.

But the thing that i really HATED is that the character of Indiana Jones is totally destroyed, say goodbye to the archeologist who used to be your hero when you were a child. Say hello to the secret agent who works for the FBI !

What have you done Steven ?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

Are you saying bad CGI, because it doesn't look good. Or you think it doesn't belong in an Indy film? Many reviewers are saying the CG looks good, except for a few parts.

[The Man of Steel]

I Think it looks great

[Warhammer]

Public poll please? :)

[War Party]

This movie is going to be different for everyone and it's going to depend on what people's expectations are going into it. For me, I'm not looking for a perfect film or a classic. That's an unfair expectation for any film. The other three aren't even close to perfect. I just want a movie that will make me forget about my stressful life for 2 hours and that it will be a fun film. The script can be crap, but just as long as the fun factor is there, it's all good. Looks like I'm going to have a fun time at the theater tonight.

[War Party]

Public poll please? :)

Seriously, I hate private polls.

[shogunrua]

I just came back from the theater...wow I don't think I would have been so disappointed...seriously it's not about trolling or whatever.

I was prepared to have a weak plot in front of me, because I was going to see an Indiana Jones movie, so I was more looking for a great adventure, lots of fun stuff and crazy stunts, you know like the first three movies...but this one, even if it has his action sequence (and I have to say that the last one was unbearable for me I felt that the movie should have been renamed "Indiana Jones metts Stargate") but it felt like something was missing...I don't know how to explain it, it was like they were doing another movie, just for the sake of doing it.

The Cate Blanchett character was getting on my nerves too. It seems that she was always behind Indiana Jones saying "hey you help me or else..." the first time it was ok, but damn there were like 4-5 times like that in this movie.


The CGI was too obvious...I hate when CGI is too obvious

The good points: well it's still Indiana Jones, even in his 50-60's, the guy still kicks major ass and that's always great !!! Shia LaBoeuf was great but you almost see it coming from the first time he appears on screen that he is Indy's son.

Conclusion: well I got out of the theater thinking "it was ok...now let's go home and eat something" and that just doesn't feel right about an Indiana Jones movie...not right AT ALL !!!!

[WarBlade]

Are you saying bad CGI, because it doesn't look good. Or you think it doesn't belong in an Indy film? Many reviewers are saying the CG looks good, except for a few parts.

I wouldn't call the CGI bad... In fact much of it is quite good. The problem is that there's just way too much reliance on CG imagery thanks to the ridiculous plot that emerges, especially during the last 3 reels. :csad:

You're right about one thing though. There was CGI that didn't belong in an Indiana Jones film. :csad:

[War Party]

I'm just confused about all these articles I read. Pretty much all of them stated that 30% of the effects were CG and there were only a couple hundred effects shots, mostly used for backdrops and rotoscope removal of the visible safety wires during stunt sequences. So I don't know who to believe anymore. And I don't have a problem with CG what so ever. I love that ****. But I just find it odd that I'm being told one thing by many, and then being told another by just as many.

[french joker]

Are you saying bad CGI, because it doesn't look good. Or you think it doesn't belong in an Indy film? Many reviewers are saying the CG looks good, except for a few parts.
Because they don't look good, like said shogunrua they're too obvious. And like said WarBlade, some CGI shouldn't be seen in an Indy movie (especially at the end...)

To me, "Indy4" is the "Phantom Menace" of the Indiana Jones franchise:csad:

[Fanticon]

Theres almost nothing about this new film you could tell me in advance to kill my buzz about seeing...my only concern now...is that I'll get an unruly crowd.

I'm there for one thing...to see Indiana Jones in action again...no matter what the storyline is...no matter what the sfx and cgi will look like. Go back and look at the old Indy movies...you'll be able to pick them apart these days to the point where its humiliating how bad things used to look. If it was good enough for Speilberg to film...and for Ford to return...then its gonna be good enough for me! Theres some things I just won't stand for...ruining continuity and changing actors for roles...I don't think that has been done here. Still just as excited to see this as I was after walking out of the theaters in Last Crusade wanting more!

[Mr. Credible]

i don't know how people can believe that this movie is only 30% cgi... watch any combination of any of the trailers and tv spots and nearly every action shot is (very obvious) cgi.

[Hunter Rider]

I hope to see this tomorrow, not sure if anyone cares about my review but once i post it i most likely wont be back.

[The Guardian]

Theres almost nothing about this new film you could tell me in advance to kill my buzz about seeing...my only concern now...is that I'll get an unruly crowd.

I'm there for one thing...to see Indiana Jones in action again...no matter what the storyline is...no matter what the sfx and cgi will look like. Go back and look at the old Indy movies...you'll be able to pick them apart these days to the point where its humiliating how bad things used to look. If it was good enough for Speilberg to film...and for Ford to return...then its gonna be good enough for me! Theres some things I just won't stand for...ruining continuity and changing actors for roles...I don't think that has been done here. Still just as excited to see this as I was after walking out of the theaters in Last Crusade wanting more!

I AGREE 100%!!!:indy::up:

[Fanticon]

Heres an opening line from a review someone posted on IMDB...yes...i've been poking around on message boards all day ;)

Clear your head of all the cliché-ridden warnings that sequels are inferior: The new Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a faithful addition to the intrepid Professor Henry Jones, Jr.'s archaeological adventures, sparkles like its crystal skulls with wit and good-old races/escapes without serious computer graphics, throwing us back to the adolescent fun of serials and adventure movies of the '50's.


:up:

[Spider-Gamer]

Hiya all! I'm just wondering if there is anything confirmed if there is anything after the credits like some other movies like Iron Man?

[Schlosser85]

I'm going to see this tomorrow after work, it'll be around 6. I admit I'm apprehensive about all the mixed reviews, but I really want to like this movie and I hope it will let me, lol.

[Fanticon]

Spider-Gamer,
apparently the earliest reports from Hypers who've seen it are so negative it appears they left before the credits rolled just to leave the parking lot before everyone else....sorry.

I'll be seeing it at Midnight...
However, on a side note...it would not be in keeping to have an end-credits-secret-scene...as none of the other films in this series have needed nor required one. Hope that helps...

[Spider-Gamer]

Yeah. I thought so too since the other ones had none that there would be nothing. Just wanted to double check because I am hopefully going on midnight and don't want to come home with any "suprises". :oldrazz:
Anyway, thank you!

[shogunrua]

I didn't stay after the credits, but there is one moment at the end of the movie that I thought (and I say it again, i THOUGHT) might give a hint for future development, plus it's in adequation with the last development we've heard about a potential sequel, so maybe the next Indiana Jones will be Henry Jones "Mutt" Jr Jr...

[turtlefocker]

The film looks like a combination of the previous three; the Indy from Raiders, the father-son theme from Crusade and the OTT action from Temple.

I don't see how this movie could possibly be bad...

[french joker]

That's exactly what i fought before i saw it...

[Warhammer]

I hope to see this tomorrow, not sure if anyone cares about my review but once i post it i most likely wont be back.

Leaving the Hype? :csad:

[Hunter Rider]

Leaving the Hype? :csad:

No no. :) Just this thread, I haven't got the inclination to be part of the type of mess it's gonna become.

[The Amazing Lee]

I think he meant this thread.

[turtlefocker]

That's exactly what i fought before i saw it...

So what didn't you like?

Tarzan thing? Multiple Waterfalls? Indy getting married? Shia holding Indy's hat at the end? The Alien sub-plot?

If I enjoyed NT2 would I enjoy this, since most people hate that movie....

[Golgo-13]

No no. :) Just this thread, I haven't got the inclination to be part of the type of mess it's gonna become.

Your right about that big brother. It's gonna get really ugly in here. :csad:

[The Man of Steel]

has anyone seen it yet?

[War Party]

Yeah, I always planned on posting my little review and never coming back again. Tensions are already getting high. I say good luck to you Hunter Rider, being a mod and all.

[turtlefocker]

Video Reviews:

Variety - "no heart" -
SfuXTreZQ9s


Movie Blog - "disappointing" -
IRoKZI04TMU

[LuiECuomo]

Is it true that Ian McDiarmid (Emperor Palpatine) is in this movie?

[WarBlade]

Funny you should mention that because by the end of it I was wondering if Jar Jar Binks was going to show up. :huh:

[War Party]

Funny you should mention that because by the end of it I was wondering if Jar Jar Binks was going to show up. :huh:

Now you're just being cruel.

[turtlefocker]

Funny you should mention that because by the end of it I was wondering if Jar Jar Binks was going to show up. :huh:

So what didn't you like?

Tarzan thing? Multiple Waterfalls? Indy getting married? Shia holding Indy's hat at the end? The Alien sub-plot?

If I enjoyed NT2 would I enjoy this, since most people hate that movie....

[WarBlade]

Ok, maybe that's a bit unfair, but the Goa'uld, Thor and Apophis from Stargate would have fitted right in. :whatever:

[The Apatow Crew]

Video Reviews:

Variety - "no heart" -
SfuXTreZQ9s


Movie Blog - "disappointing" -
IRoKZI04TMUPoor Shia. Everyones ripping into him like Lions.


"Not worthy of Indiana Jones". Ouch.

[LuiECuomo]

Is it true that Ian McDiarmid (Emperor Palpatine) is in this movie?

Can anyone answer my question? :(

[turtlefocker]

Can anyone answer my question? :(

IMDB - "no"

[LuiECuomo]

Ah, that sucks. I was hoping it was going to be true.

Thanks, anyway.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It could be the Temple of Doom before the next film, I guess.

Although even as incredibly insane as Temple of Doom was, I still liked it. Even with Han Solo in place of Indy too.

[Agentsands77]

Poor Shia. Everyones ripping into him like Lions.
Not everybody. A lot of reviews have given him high marks - some have even counted him as a highlight.

[Alex The Great]

1 more day! *dies*

[Untilteld]

I just watched Temple of Doom, Short Round was awesome, Spielberg's wife was annoying as hell, and Indy was badass. But the movie was waaaay too unbelievable for me. Meh, The Last Crusade tomorrow and than Crystal Skull Friday. :up:

[Golgo-13]

Not everybody. A lot of reviews have given him high marks - some have even counted him as a highlight.

:whatever:

[Lord Blackbolt]

None of those negative reviews say the movie is "bad"...and even though they didn't like it a lot...they still recommend it.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, Indy's advenutres are about stuff that are too incredible to beleive. Though, the Lost Ark and the Cup from the Last Crusade are more unbelievable that anything in Temple of Doom.

Funny too, how Temple of Doom is a prequel. Most would believe the prequels began with Star Wars...but it was Indy's, first.

[Bim]

Well i just returned from watching an early showing... i gave it a solid 9, i enjoyed this one :woot:

It was a great showing, cause there was mostly adults (some with their kids, who thankfully werent noisy brats), and other than some idiot tapping his foot at several points (i guess he was nervous:hehe:) i just had a great time.

It was what i love about Indy... at first i found myself telling me to just focus and watch it, cause i kept thinking "I'm watching Indy, i'm watching Indy!" :hehe: and it took me about 10 minutes to shut myself up, but once the action started, it felt like an Indy movie, and i was hooked.

I dont wanna give any spoilers, so i'm leaving my review here... however, i thought the ending was very cool, and clearly states that Mutt wont take over the fedora hat :oldrazz: at least that's my take on it .

So Indy fans, just go enjoy the movie, and forget critics and reviews... i know i'm going back at least one more time before the weekend is over :indy:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't see how Shia could be a bad, though. Shia is pretty good onscreen no matter what.

[DarknessOfDeath]

My local newspaper gave Indy4 3 and a half stars out of 5.

Not bad. It said that Indy4 delivers. I'll post the article..

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I guess we're getting a 5th too. For sure.

Now, who will be the lead...in the air I guess, but there's gotta be a sequel to this one.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

My papers here in New York. One gave it a 3 out of 4. And another gave it a 4 out of 5.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Indy delivers (again!)

Wed, May 21, 2008
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull dodges curse of impossible expectations



By KEVIN WILLIAMSON (kevin.williamson@calgarysun.com)



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Harrison Ford is back as Indiana Jones in the newly released Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

It's one more -- and hopefully the last -- narrow escape for creaky-but-spry Indiana Jones.

After 19 years of pent-up demand for, and then anxiety over, the excavation of another long-dormant Lucas film franchise (thank you, Phantom Menace), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull dodges the curse of impossible expectations and delivers precisely what you would expect: A witty, efficient Indiana Jones adventure.

So, like the sadistic Temple of Doom and jokey Last Crusade before it, this sequel is engaging, uneven and firmly entrenched in the shadow of the original movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Not that we expected it to approach the original's whip-smart perfection. That 1981 thriller was a miracle of alchemy that could hold you spellbound even in its quietest moments. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull isn't that energetic or hungry, but it handily proves that Ford, at 65, can still confidently run laps around such imitators as National Treasure.

Ford himself seems exhumed after a mummified career spate in which his gruff charisma morphed into scowling surliness; could it be he's having fun again?



Back in nimble form, too, is Spielberg, who seems eager and pleased to merely entertain.

Set in 1957, two decades after the events of Last Crusade, Crystal Skull kick-starts with a shanghaied Indy forced by Soviet agents (led by a delectable, diabolical Cate Blanchett) to locate a top-secret military cache stashed in the ever-notorious Area 51. (You'd have to have lived on Mars for the past 50 years to not know what they're looking for.)

These opening 20 minutes are also the sequel's punchiest: a breathless chain reaction of suspense, humour, choreography, absurdity and ingenuity culminating in no less than an atomic explosion. No wonder the rest of the movie feels winded, as if after this blast of crackling, first-rate filmmaking Spielberg and Co. can't quite catch their breath, try as they might.

And try they do.

Post-prologue and back in academia, Indy finds himself under a cloud of suspicion -- this is the era of fear-mongering McCarthyism, remember -- and unexpectedly partnered with a duck-tailed rebel without a clue: "greaser" Mutt Williams (Shia LaBeouf, better than Jar Jar, if you were worried).

After a rousing motorcycle-and-car chase -- the second best set-piece -- Indy and the greaser head to South America in search of the movie's requisite treasure: An alien-made crystal skull with mind-controlling powers.

Along the way, they dodge more Russian muscle, poison-dart-equipped locals and wildlife, including one large snake and several thousand flesh-eating giant ants.

Aside from Blanchett's villain, Indy is also reunited with the script's other leading lady: Karen Allen, returning as feisty Marion Ravenwood from Raiders.

There's little time for romantic sparks, though. And, given the abundance of characters -- including Ray Winstone as Indy's old war buddy "Mac" -- it's inevitable Crystal Skull most closely resembles Last Crusade, what with its interpersonal dynamics, mismatched buddy comedy (LaBeouf's sidekick offers a role-reversal from the Ford-Sean Connery relationship) and a mellow, none-too-frightening vibe that, while enjoyable enough, never fully invigorates.

Still, for Indy fans -- myself included-- that's probably enough.
As with any class reunion, the pleasure of this Indiana Jones entry isn't so much what happens, as who you're with.

Rating: 3 1/2 out of 5

[Fanticon]

damn...my theater just added another screen to the midnight showings! Thats 6, up two more from earlier today!

On a side note...I got my tix early...and I want a packed showing...I don't want them to just keep opening up more screens...that'll mean a less packed crowd! I don't know...just one way to look at it...

[Spider-Vader]

I'll see it either Friday or next week. I would see it tomorrow but my friend says his dad (who's out of town) wants to come.

[turtlefocker]

I dont wanna give any spoilers, so i'm leaving my review here... however, i thought the ending was very cool, and clearly states that Mutt wont take over the fedora hat at least that's my take on it .



Doesn't the last shot show Mutt holding Indy's fedora? Wouldn't that suggest that he is taking over?

I guess we're getting a 5th too. For sure.

Now, who will be the lead...in the air I guess, but there's gotta be a sequel to this one.

What makes you think that? the "for sure" I mean...?

[Spider-Vader]

Hopefully we'll get one more sequel with Indy as the main guy. Then Mutt can do what ever he wants.

[Golgo-13]

Doesn't the last shot show Mutt holding Indy's fedora? Wouldn't that suggest that he is taking over?





That one shot might ruin the whole movie for some.

[Bim]

Doesn't the last shot show Mutt holding Indy's fedora? Wouldn't that suggest that he is taking over?

Well, he picks it up and goes to put it on, but Indy takes it from his hand and puts it on himself, as if saying 'No way kid':hehe:

I really thought that part of the ending was awesome, cause u can see Indy laugh and Mutt just smile aswell

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, I basing on there being a 5th because Indy will prove to still be a heavy hitter. Even dispite harsh reviews, the movie is still going to have a big weekend. A good run.

And I'd imagine that Spielberg must want to do another one as well, if he felt the need to do a 4th after so long. Ford said he'll be Indiana Jones till they tell him otherwise.

And of course....there's what was said by Lucas.

You don't even need a cliffhanger at the end of the Crystal Skull either.

[JackBauer24]

None of those negative reviews say the movie is "bad"...and even though they didn't like it a lot...they still recommend it.


It was bad.

[Untilteld]

Eesh, gotta stay clear of this thread until friday.

[JackBauer24]

Eesh, gotta stay clear of this thread until friday.

Save your money, dude - it's not worth it.

[DarknessOfDeath]

No offence, but I think Merk should decide on his own wither to go see the movie or not.

So Merk, don't listen to anybody but yourself.

Its your choice, not by force.

[JackBauer24]

No offence, but I think Merk should decide on his own wither to go see the movie or not.

Nobody's making a decision for him. What I'm doing is offering advice. Look it up - it's different to a decision.

[theShape]

Nobody's making a decision for him. What I'm doing is offering advice. Look it up - it's different to a decision.

Let's be honest, though. No one here will be dissuaded from seeing this movie.

[JackBauer24]

Let's be honest, though. No one here will be dissuaded from seeing this movie.

Sad, but most likely true. That's why they made it after all it seems. Certainly wasn't because of the great script.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Nobody's making a decision for him. What I'm doing is offering advice. Look it up - it's different to a decision.


Well theres no need to say it like it is to Merk. He can make up his own mind and I don't care if he doesn't go see it.

[Bim]

Save your money, dude - it's not worth it.
I disagree, i thought it was totally worth it :woot: and in fact, i'll see this more than once for sure :cwink:

[JackBauer24]

Well theres no need to say it like it is to Merk. He can make up his own mind and I don't care if he doesn't go see it.

I'm not saying he can't make up his own mind - I was just proferring my opinion. I'm sure Merk is a free-spirited individual who will do whatever he damn pleases - seems to me you're the one who thinks he can't think for himself if you have to keep telling him he can make up his own mind and that I shouldn't try and influence him with my opinion.

Also, I do care if he sees it because if people keep going to see all these hapless sequels, remakes, prequels and the rest of them then in 5 years there will be no original blockbusters at all. It's sad.

[Bim]

Also, I do care if he sees it because if people keep going to see all these hapless sequels, remakes, prequels and the rest of them then in 5 years there will be no original blockbusters at all. It's sad.
If u feel so strongly about sequels, remakes, prequels, etc is it safe to assume ur against the new Batman movies aswell?

'Hapless sequels' to u, just because u dont enjoy them or dont want to see them, doesnt mean they're bad. That's just UR pov.

[JackBauer]

Haven't seen the movie yet, but I had to post this...

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[Bim]

It was bad.
Ah, it seemed to me like u had seen it already :hehe:

[Iron Fist]

Tomorrow. :ninja:

[JackBauer24]

If u feel so strongly about sequels, remakes, prequels, etc is it safe to assume ur against the new Batman movies aswell?

'Hapless sequels' to u, just because u dont enjoy them or dont want to see them, doesnt mean they're bad. That's just UR pov.

Hey I don't have a problem with sequels if they're actually good and some effort and invention have gone into making them. Which is why I'm all for the new Batman movies, as Chris Nolan proved with Batman Begins that he's a smart filmmaker who knows what he's doing - and what I've seen of The Dark Knight is doing nothing to change my mind about that. Same goes for the Hellboy movies.

But from the start this reeked of a cash-grab. And I'm afraid that's what it was. So the reason I don't want people to see it is so perhaps when it flops, the studios and filmmakers and writers will realise that they're gonna have to actually get off their butts and make something worth seeing to make money. However, this isn't gonna happen.

[JackBauer24]

Okay I’m gonna make this quick cos I just have to get it out. I shall post a more measured and thoughtful review in time but for now…

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So, first and for the sake of argument let me get the good things (or at least the not-so-terrible ones) out of the way. Firstly, Harrison Ford. Bless Harrison Ford – I love him – and he really tries his best here. He is perfectly fine as Indy – sure he doesn’t have as much energy and is a little bit fatter and greyer than he used to be, but he is still Indy. Don’t let anybody tell you the problem with the movie is that Harrison Ford was too old – he may be a little – but that is not the problem.

The problem is that the movie is just terribly written and poorly directed to boot. It has no spark, no life, no wit, subtlety or invention that marked all of the previous Indiana Jones movies. The plot is asinine and incomprehensible, the characters spend half of the movie just talking about the plot in clumsy exposition that is about as interesting as attending a real archaeology lecture (apology to any archaeologists in the room). The characters are beyond one-dimensional and to make up for this there are about twenty of them all as uninteresting as the last. Spielberg seems to have got caught up with the idea of Indy having sidekicks as the series went along, so it’s gone from one/two in Raiders, to two in Temple of Doom, to three in Last Crusade, to four in KotCS (not counting the villain who spends all her time with the heroes). Because there are so many characters and none ever get time away from the big group to develop on their own each is given about one line every ten minutes which is usually something expository and dull. Marion is completely wasted – she turns up and what could be a really interesting subplot just turns into nothing. She and Indy shout at each other for a bit as Shia looks on bemused then kiss and make up for no reason and Karen Allen spends the rest of the film grinning inanely. No character arcs at all.

The visual effects are terrible, everything has that blurry look you always get with bad CGI. The entire movie looks like it was shot on sets with greenscreen (apart from establishing location shots) all the backgrounds look fake, nothing looks like it was shot for real. The cinematography is washed out and completely lacks the rich colours of the previous films. The musical score is entirely unmemorable. The editing is all over the place, there appears to be no planning of set-pieces or intricate marriage of image and music like you would find in Raiders (take the map-room sequence as an example), it is as if Spielberg decided that storyboards were for chumps – let’s just make the movie in the editing room! The dialogue clunks, Cate Blanchette devours the scenery and the movie sucks. I have so much more in me but I just wanna go to bed and cry now, so all I’ll say is…

Don’t go.

[Bim]

Hey I don't have a problem with sequels if they're actually good and some effort and invention have gone into making them. Which is why I'm all for the new Batman movies, as Chris Nolan proved with Batman Begins that he's a smart filmmaker who knows what he's doing - and what I've seen of The Dark Knight is doing nothing to change my mind about that. Same goes for the Hellboy movies.

But from the start this reeked of a cash-grab. And I'm afraid that's what it was. So the reason I don't want people to see it is so perhaps when it flops, the studios and filmmakers and writers will realise that they're gonna have to actually get off their butts and make something worth seeing to make money. However, this isn't gonna happen.
Aah, but what's 'good' and 'inventive' can be subjective. Like i said before, just because u dont like something, doesnt mean it's bad.

See for me, Hellboy was lame and boring, and i'm not motivated to see Hellboy 2 at all, so it's just a matter of opinion.

Hey, if u dont like Indy, that's ur call and i wont argue that with u, but u phrase things as facts, when ur only stating ur pov ... i doubt Lucas, Spielberg and Ford need cash, so saying it's a cash grab feels a bit off to me :hehe:

It was fun and worth seeing to me, so i guess we'll just have to disagree :cwink:

BTW, i confused u with JackBauer, he's the one that hadnt seen it yet :hehe: so sorry :woot: how many Bauers r here darn it! quit confusing me haha

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Okay I’m gonna make this quick cos I just have to get it out. I shall post a more measured and thoughtful review in time but for now…

RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙ ∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙

So, first and for the sake of argument let me get the good things (or at least the not-so-terrible ones) out of the way. Firstly, Harrison Ford. Bless Harrison Ford – I love him – and he really tries his best here. He is perfectly fine as Indy – sure he doesn’t have as much energy and is a little bit fatter and greyer than he used to be, but he is still Indy. Don’t let anybody tell you the problem with the movie is that Harrison Ford was too old – he may be a little – but that is not the problem.

The problem is that the movie is just terribly written and poorly directed to boot. It has no spark, no life, no wit, subtlety or invention that marked all of the previous Indiana Jones movies. The plot is asinine and incomprehensible, the characters spend half of the movie just talking about the plot in clumsy exposition that is about as interesting as attending a real archaeology lecture (apology to any archaeologists in the room). The characters are beyond one-dimensional and to make up for this there are about twenty of them all as uninteresting as the last. Spielberg seems to have got caught up with the idea of Indy having sidekicks as the series went along, so it’s gone from one/two in Raiders, to two in Temple of Doom, to three in Last Crusade, to four in KotCS (not counting the villain who spends all her time with the heroes). Because there are so many characters and none ever get time away from the big group to develop on their own each is given about one line every ten minutes which is usually something expository and dull. Marion is completely wasted – she turns up and what could be a really interesting subplot just turns into nothing. She and Indy shout at each other for a bit as Shia looks on bemused then kiss and make up for no reason and Karen Allen spends the rest of the film grinning inanely. No character arcs at all.

The visual effects are terrible, everything has that blurry look you always get with bad CGI. The entire movie looks like it was shot on sets with greenscreen (apart from establishing location shots) all the backgrounds look fake, nothing looks like it was shot for real. The cinematography is washed out and completely lacks the rich colours of the previous films. The musical score is entirely unmemorable. The editing is all over the place, there appears to be no planning of set-pieces or intricate marriage of image and music like you would find in Raiders (take the map-room sequence as an example), it is as if Spielberg decided that storyboards were for chumps – let’s just make the movie in the editing room! The dialogue clunks, Cate Blanchette devours the scenery and the movie sucks. I have so much more in me but I just wanna go to bed and cry now, so all I’ll say is…

Don’t go.
You just saved me eight bucks, thanks! :up:, looks like fans will be expecting a Phantom Menace size turd here.

[JackBauer24]

Aah, but what's 'good' and 'inventive' can be subjective. Like i said before, just because u dont like something, doesnt mean it's bad.

See for me, Hellboy was lame and boring, and i'm not motivated to see Hellboy 2 at all, so it's just a matter of opinion.

Hey, if u dont like Indy, that's ur call and i wont argue that with u, but u phrase things as facts, when ur only stating ur pov ... i doubt Lucas, Spielberg and Ford need cash, so saying it's a cash grab feels a bit off to me :hehe:

It was fun and worth seeing to me, so i guess we'll just have to disagree :cwink:

I'm sorry where am I phrasing things as facts? Do you see any references after my statements - any footnotes? Just because I can't be bothered to put 'IMHO' before every word I write doesn't mean I'm stating it as the God's Honest Truth. Yes, everything's a matter of opinion but if nobody is allowed to emphatically state theirs then what the bloody hell is point of this thread? Or message boards in general? Or conversation?! We should all just sit around and not say anything because our opinion is bound to conflict with others? The purpose of debate is to try and influence other's opinions and you can't very well do that if you don't truly believe yours to be the right one.

[boydston_14]

Okay I’m gonna make this quick cos I just have to get it out. I shall post a more measured and thoughtful review in time but for now…

RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙ ∙∙RANT∙AHEAD∙∙∙

So, first and for the sake of argument let me get the good things (or at least the not-so-terrible ones) out of the way. Firstly, Harrison Ford. Bless Harrison Ford – I love him – and he really tries his best here. He is perfectly fine as Indy – sure he doesn’t have as much energy and is a little bit fatter and greyer than he used to be, but he is still Indy. Don’t let anybody tell you the problem with the movie is that Harrison Ford was too old – he may be a little – but that is not the problem.

The problem is that the movie is just terribly written and poorly directed to boot. It has no spark, no life, no wit, subtlety or invention that marked all of the previous Indiana Jones movies. The plot is asinine and incomprehensible, the characters spend half of the movie just talking about the plot in clumsy exposition that is about as interesting as attending a real archaeology lecture (apology to any archaeologists in the room). The characters are beyond one-dimensional and to make up for this there are about twenty of them all as uninteresting as the last. Spielberg seems to have got caught up with the idea of Indy having sidekicks as the series went along, so it’s gone from one/two in Raiders, to two in Temple of Doom, to three in Last Crusade, to four in KotCS (not counting the villain who spends all her time with the heroes). Because there are so many characters and none ever get time away from the big group to develop on their own each is given about one line every ten minutes which is usually something expository and dull. Marion is completely wasted – she turns up and what could be a really interesting subplot just turns into nothing. She and Indy shout at each other for a bit as Shia looks on bemused then kiss and make up for no reason and Karen Allen spends the rest of the film grinning inanely. No character arcs at all.

The visual effects are terrible, everything has that blurry look you always get with bad CGI. The entire movie looks like it was shot on sets with greenscreen (apart from establishing location shots) all the backgrounds look fake, nothing looks like it was shot for real. The cinematography is washed out and completely lacks the rich colours of the previous films. The musical score is entirely unmemorable. The editing is all over the place, there appears to be no planning of set-pieces or intricate marriage of image and music like you would find in Raiders (take the map-room sequence as an example), it is as if Spielberg decided that storyboards were for chumps – let’s just make the movie in the editing room! The dialogue clunks, Cate Blanchette devours the scenery and the movie sucks. I have so much more in me but I just wanna go to bed and cry now, so all I’ll say is…

Don’t go.

Okay. We get it, you don't like the movie. Not many of us really care to see you post it 8 times within an hour that you don't like it. I understand that you don't like it, but I (and many others) want to give the movie a chance. And from what I hear some others actually like the movie, even if you don't....

[Bim]

I thought the point of debate was to exchange views and opinions, not to change people's minds to make them agree with u all the time :huh:

I guess we just see things differently, cause i dont feel the need to influence people like that and make everyone think like me and agree with me, and i do like fun and educated debate as much as the next person :woot:

Back to Indy now, i'm still too hyped and cant get to bed :indy:

[CBGB]

I don't give a **** if it's bad. IT'S INDIANA ****ING JONES!!!!!

[Schlosser85]

I'm going after work at 6 tomorrow, should I be concerned about them selling out or anything?

[CBGB]

I'm going after work at 6 tomorrow, should I be concerned about them selling out or anything?

hehehehe............. yeah! :indy:

[JackBauer24]

I don't give a **** if it's bad. IT'S INDIANA ****ING JONES!!!!!

:csad:

[CBGB]

:csad:

:twisted::yay:

[bullets]

jackbauer's review seems to be consistent with what i've been hearing . however if someone had warned me about phantom menace is still would of went to see it . i think i could be dissapointed but might find something to like about it . i wasn't a big fan of temple of doom but there were parts of that movie i thought were good . hell i thought short round did a good job ( i usually have disdain for kid sidekicks) and would like some sort of follow up on him. you just have to see the movie .it might reach greatness but there will definately be some parts worth seeing .

[Schlosser85]

Well I don't have a problem with Temple of Doom or (gasp!) the Star Wars prequels, so people saying KOTCS is "as bad" as them doesn't mean much to me.

[Bim]

Short Round was a great kid sidekick, with the heavy and graphic theme that TOD had, it helped (at least me) in keeping things light. I guess that's why i'm not as traumatized as some when it comes to TOD :hehe:

For me, each Indy movie has it's own charm, and i found room for this one aswell :woot:

[DarknessOfDeath]

Short Round was a great kid sidekick, with the heavy and graphic theme that TOD had, it helped (at least me) in keeping things light. I guess that's why i'm not as traumatized as some when it comes to TOD :hehe:

For me, each Indy movie has it's own charm, and i found room for this one aswell :woot:

Thats great :)

I can't wait til I go see it tonight. :up:

[The Man of Steel]

I'm off to see it :woot:

[Bim]

Have fun, Dr. Jones! :woot: :indy:

[The Man of Steel]

I'll be back :indy::up::woot:

[Gold Samurai]

Ford- Who gives a ****
LOL

[DarknessOfDeath]

Ford- Who gives a ****
LOL


huh??

[Gold Samurai]

huh??

On Conan Obrien tonight Conan brought out his executive producer and the producer is a huge indy fan. The producer asked very indepth question about the change in the type of bull whip to a kangaroo bull whilp material in the last two films. He quizzed Ford about what color the ball part was to which Ford replied

"Who gives a ****"

poking fun at all those anal fans that know every single detail about a film.

Also Conan asked if Ford keeps any movie memorabilla

"I don't need that crap, I'm a very rich man"
LOL

[cryptic name]

Save your money, dude - it's not worth it.

you're deluded if you think you can talk anybody out of seeing Indiana Jones. no matter what you say about it. and i'm not saying you're wrong as i have not seen it, but still...it's a useless gesture

[P.B.&Chocolate]

I have my ticket and am going tomorrow afternoon even though I am kinda bummed about the reviews .

[Octoberist]

Well I don't have a problem with Temple of Doom or (gasp!) the Star Wars prequels, so people saying KOTCS is "as bad" as them doesn't mean much to me.

Temple of Doom is still a fun ride, while the Star Wars Prequels are empty, awkwardly made films

[BloodyWolverine]

My opinion is people are going to rip this like Phantom Menace was trashed and there is nothing that can be done about it. So sad are people when they act like children and not adults about films.

[StylishHokie21]

Was it honestly that bad? I'm still going to see it regardless.

[Gamma Ray]

I went in expecting nothing. What I got was less than nothing. It was *****. I'm incredibly pissed off by how bad it was. The story was wholly uninteresting, the effects made me role my eyes every time and the finale was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

I WILL NEVER SEE THIS MOVIE AGAIN.

1/10

[War Party]

Loved it. Very fun and I had a smile on my face the whole time. I was even digging the alien stuff. That was Indy I saw on the big screen tonight. And for the first time in my theater going experience, people were clapping when the credits rolled. That never happened after a movie I saw in the theater. Gets a solid 8/10 from me.

[The Guardian]

HI GUYS I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE MOVIE AND I LOVED IT, IT'S CLASSIC INDY ADVENTURE AT ITS MOST OVER THE TOP!!!:D:up: I'M NOT GONNA POST TOO MUCH NOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL IT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET!!! IT WAS ALLOT OF FUN AND A GREAT RIDE, I THINK MOST WILL LIKE IT, I LOVED IT 10/10!!!:indy::up:

[Excel]

Man that ****ing SUCKED. That ending was aweful, and the final scene was ****ing cringe worthy! Now I know why Connery stayed away!

And who the **** is Ox?

Man I am pissed, that was garbage. Horrible special effects, piss poor dialogue...Spielberg mailed this one in ro Lucas had too much control. This is officallty the first BAD film Spielberg has made.

[Shifty]

Ford- Who gives a ****
LOL

That was a very funny interview.

HI GUYS I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE MOVIE AND I LOVED IT, IT'S CLASSIC INDY ADVENTURE AT ITS MOST OVER THE TOP!!!:D:up: I'M NOT GONNA POST TOO MUCH NOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL IT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET!!! IT WAS ALLOT OF FUN AND A GREAT RIDE, I THINK MOST WILL LIKE IT, I LOVED IT 10/10!!!:indy::up:

Loved it. Very fun and I had a smile on my face the whole time. I was even digging the alien stuff. That was Indy I saw on the big screen tonight. And for the first time in my theater going experience, people were clapping when the credits rolled. That never happened after a movie I saw in the theater. Gets a solid 8/10 from me.

I went in expecting nothing. What I got was less than nothing. It was *****. I'm incredibly pissed off by how bad it was. The story was wholly uninteresting, the effects made me role my eyes every time and the finale was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

I WILL NEVER SEE THIS MOVIE AGAIN.

1/10

:csad:

Hmmm hopefully I leave the theatre with a smile on my face.

[flickchick85]

Wow, the responses are all over the place on this one. Definitely one of those cases where I'll want to see for myself (like I wasn't going to anyway).

[Mladen]

My opinion is people are going to rip this like Phantom Menace was trashed and there is nothing that can be done about it. So sad are people when they act like children and not adults about films.

Its childish to have an opinion about a film? Or is it just childish if the opinion is different to yours?

[War Party]

I thought the effects were very good. I guess I have a different pair of eyes than others or that I'm just easily impressed when it comes to effects.

[Excel]

Dont see it, I cant recoomend it; I wish I hadnt. I had a lot more respect for Indy and co. before watching it...now Ill never be able to watch Last Crusade thinking about what a great way it was to end Indy :(

[TNC9852002]

Trailers Shown at my midnight show:

-Kung Fu Panda
-Wall-E
-Eagle Eye
-The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
-Hellboy II
-Hancock (slightly new variation of the latest trailer)
-Australia

I don't have a whole lot to say about Indy right now.

It's lingering in my head as a 7/10 right now.

-TNC

[War Party]

I got all the same trailers, minus Australia. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button trailer was great.

[Stevens25]

I just got back from seeing the midnight showing and I have to say that I liked the film,but I didn't love it. I found it above average.It was great to see Indy on screen again and I liked some of the action,but I don't know what to say. There was just something about it that left me thinking,"Oh,here's just another action film."I wasn't too crazy about the whole alien/UFO stuff. It just didn't have that same creepiness and mystery like the Ark did. And the Soviets just didn't come off as evil enough bad guys. The Nazis were kick ass bad guys in the previous films(as were the cult in "Temple of doom"),but the commies just didn't have that same threatening quality.Plus,Indy surviving a nuclear blast? What the hell?! I really like a movie when,after seeing it for the first time,I say to myself,"Yeah,I wanna see that again!" With Indy 4,I liked it enough to watch it again but probably on DVD. I gave it 6/10.

[Mladen]

Trailers Shown at my midnight show:
-Kung Fu Panda


is kung-fu panda a remake of chris farley's Beverly Hills Ninja? i'm not clear on this one?

[Catman]

I liked the movie. I didn't mind the alien stuff. My biggest problem was how the relationship between Indy, Marion, and Mutt was handled. Where Last Crusade was successful is where Crystal Skull failed.

[TNC9852002]

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button trailer was great.
That was definitely an eye-opener for me. I'm usually on top of these sorts of things, but this movie and this movie trailer caught me totally by surprise.

-TNC

[TNC9852002]

is kung-fu panda a remake of chris farley's Beverly Hills Ninja? i'm not clear on this one?
lol. What does a "Kung Fu Panda" have anything to do with a "Beverly Hills Ninja"? :p

You must be confused with Beverly Hills Chihuahua, which still doesn't have any relation to the movie in question.

-TNC

[Drizzle]

This movie had some cool stuff, but it is nowhere near as good as the original films.

I didn't like the alien plotline, but the stupidest thing ever was Mutt swinging on vines with monkeys. I thought that was the most retarded thing I have ever seen in a movie.

[CalebYourMaster]

swinging on vines???...aliens???...corny wedding???
yes im bickering too much...all in all did i enjoy the movie?
yes...but it totally wasnt what i expected...it lacked...im not saying i was super hyped for the film...but i loved all the other indy movies...this one just wasnt too great...the fridge scene was pretty excellent though i must say lol

a lot of cringing throughout this film...
6.5/10

shias character mutt was good...but some of his scenes made me mad

[Mladen]

lol. What does a "Kung Fu Panda" have anything to do with a "Beverly Hills Ninja"? :p

You must be confused with Beverly Hills Chihuahua, which still doesn't have any relation to the movie in question.

-TNC

"It's the story about a lazy, irreverent slacker panda, named Po, who unexpectedly joins the world of Kung Fu and studies alongside his idols, the legendary Furious Five -- But before they know it, the vengeful and treacherous Tai Lung is headed their way, and it's up to Po to defend everyone from the oncoming threat. Can he turn his dreams of becoming a Kung Fu master into reality? Po puts his heart - and his girth - into the task, and the unlikely hero ultimately finds that his greatest weaknesses turn out to be his greatest strengths."

swap the words 'po' with chris farley, 'kung-fu' with 'ninjitsu', and 'panda' with 'talentless actor' and its the same freaking movie!
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Beverly-Hills-Ninja-Poster-C10316196.jpeg

[Catman]

Mutt swinging on vines with monkeys.

That scene was indeed stupid. On paper it may have seemed like a good idea but the way it was shot, edited, and the effects made it seems kinda dumb.

[Gamma Ray]

Not just any monkeys.... CGI MONKEYS! And CGI gophers! And CGI snakes! YAY FOR COMPUTER GENERATED CRAP!

[TNC9852002]

That scene was indeed stupid. On paper it may have seemed like a good idea but the way it was shot, edited, and the effects made it seems kinda dumb.
The monkey scene and the demented, killer mutant ants were the only two parts of the movie where I had a serious issue with.

Everything else I was very satisfied with...and the CGI was top notch for the most part. I'm thinking that people have become so used to the better effects in the movie that they don't even remember anything but the lesser quality effects...what about the atomic bomb or the ants, or the craft in the pyramid? Great stuff.

-TNC

[BMM]

I don't know what to think of the movie. The opinions I overheard after were all over the place too.

[TNC9852002]

"It's the story about a lazy, irreverent slacker panda, named Po, who unexpectedly joins the world of Kung Fu and studies alongside his idols, the legendary Furious Five -- But before they know it, the vengeful and treacherous Tai Lung is headed their way, and it's up to Po to defend everyone from the oncoming threat. Can he turn his dreams of becoming a Kung Fu master into reality? Po puts his heart - and his girth - into the task, and the unlikely hero ultimately finds that his greatest weaknesses turn out to be his greatest strengths."

swap the words 'po' with chris farley, 'kung-fu' with 'ninjitsu', and 'panda' with 'talentless actor' and its the same freaking movie!
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Beverly-Hills-Ninja-Poster-C10316196.jpeg
You're really reaching there... :p The main characters have similarities, but that's where they stop, really. You can look at a variety of similar aspects of two related-genre movies and say they're the same movie if you only look at the characters...But, this wasn't even my original point that I was trying to make with Mladen.

-TNC

[The Guardian]

That scene was indeed stupid. On paper it may have seemed like a good idea but the way it was shot, edited, and the effects made it seems kinda dumb.

I AGREE TO A POINT, IT WAS FUNNY THOUGH LOL!!!:oldrazz::D

[CrypticOne]

Hmm....from reading the reviews on here, I don't think I will be seeing this.

[Catman]

Shia's monkey swing will become the evil Peter Parker dance of 2008. :o

[Gamma Ray]

Hmm....from reading the reviews on here, I don't think I will be seeing this.

Please don't. I want this movie to make as little as possible so that they don't continue to rape the franchise.

[deathfromabove]

Dont see it, I cant recoomend it; I wish I hadnt. I had a lot more respect for Indy and co. before watching it...now Ill never be able to watch Last Crusade thinking about what a great way it was to end Indy :(

this was at least as good as last crusade.

Indy delivers (again!)

Wed, May 21, 2008
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull dodges curse of impossible expectations



By KEVIN WILLIAMSON (kevin.williamson@calgarysun.com)



http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Today/Entertainment/2008/05/21/londontoday.jpg


Harrison Ford is back as Indiana Jones in the newly released Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

It's one more -- and hopefully the last -- narrow escape for creaky-but-spry Indiana Jones.

After 19 years of pent-up demand for, and then anxiety over, the excavation of another long-dormant Lucas film franchise (thank you, Phantom Menace), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull dodges the curse of impossible expectations and delivers precisely what you would expect: A witty, efficient Indiana Jones adventure.

So, like the sadistic Temple of Doom and jokey Last Crusade before it, this sequel is engaging, uneven and firmly entrenched in the shadow of the original movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Not that we expected it to approach the original's whip-smart perfection. That 1981 thriller was a miracle of alchemy that could hold you spellbound even in its quietest moments. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull isn't that energetic or hungry, but it handily proves that Ford, at 65, can still confidently run laps around such imitators as National Treasure.

Ford himself seems exhumed after a mummified career spate in which his gruff charisma morphed into scowling surliness; could it be he's having fun again?



Back in nimble form, too, is Spielberg, who seems eager and pleased to merely entertain.

Set in 1957, two decades after the events of Last Crusade, Crystal Skull kick-starts with a shanghaied Indy forced by Soviet agents (led by a delectable, diabolical Cate Blanchett) to locate a top-secret military cache stashed in the ever-notorious Area 51. (You'd have to have lived on Mars for the past 50 years to not know what they're looking for.)

These opening 20 minutes are also the sequel's punchiest: a breathless chain reaction of suspense, humour, choreography, absurdity and ingenuity culminating in no less than an atomic explosion. No wonder the rest of the movie feels winded, as if after this blast of crackling, first-rate filmmaking Spielberg and Co. can't quite catch their breath, try as they might.

And try they do.

Post-prologue and back in academia, Indy finds himself under a cloud of suspicion -- this is the era of fear-mongering McCarthyism, remember -- and unexpectedly partnered with a duck-tailed rebel without a clue: "greaser" Mutt Williams (Shia LaBeouf, better than Jar Jar, if you were worried).

After a rousing motorcycle-and-car chase -- the second best set-piece -- Indy and the greaser head to South America in search of the movie's requisite treasure: An alien-made crystal skull with mind-controlling powers.

Along the way, they dodge more Russian muscle, poison-dart-equipped locals and wildlife, including one large snake and several thousand flesh-eating giant ants.

Aside from Blanchett's villain, Indy is also reunited with the script's other leading lady: Karen Allen, returning as feisty Marion Ravenwood from Raiders.

There's little time for romantic sparks, though. And, given the abundance of characters -- including Ray Winstone as Indy's old war buddy "Mac" -- it's inevitable Crystal Skull most closely resembles Last Crusade, what with its interpersonal dynamics, mismatched buddy comedy (LaBeouf's sidekick offers a role-reversal from the Ford-Sean Connery relationship) and a mellow, none-too-frightening vibe that, while enjoyable enough, never fully invigorates.

Still, for Indy fans -- myself included-- that's probably enough.
As with any class reunion, the pleasure of this Indiana Jones entry isn't so much what happens, as who you're with.

Rating: 3 1/2 out of 5

that sums up how i feel about it pretty good.

Save your money, dude - it's not worth it.

a ticket is the price of 2 gallons of gas. its worth it.

i will say this if you were not born when raiders came out then you might have issues with this movie.

[TNC9852002]

Hmm....from reading the reviews on here, I don't think I will be seeing this.
You didn't really want to see this movie, then. Because if I were you, this would be the last place I'd go to find reviews to make up my mind about seeing a movie. :p

-TNC

[The Guardian]

Shia's monkey swing will become the evil Peter Parker dance of 2008. :o

LOL, OH COME ON I LOVED THOSE SCENES!!!:o:oldrazz:;):D

[CrypticOne]

You didn't really want to see this movie, then. Because if I were you, this would be the last place I'd go to find reviews to make up my mind about seeing a movie. :p

-TNC

Well, yeah. Indy wasn't really a big movie on my list for this year to see. I come here though, to read people's reviews on movies I kind of wanted to check out.

[Mladen]

You're really reaching there... :p The main characters have similarities, but that's where they stop, really. You can look at a variety of similar aspects of two related-genre movies and say they're the same movie if you only look at the characters...But, this wasn't even my original point that I was trying to make with Mladen.

-TNC

Thats not a reach at all!
both are comedies with the exact same premise (obeise, unbelievably inept student of kung-fu must overcome self-doubt to save the day and the respect of his colleagues... meanwhile learning an important message about body image. And lots of fart jokes).

also, I don't think I ever thought I'd be arguing the finer points of Chris Farley's similarities to a cartoon panda. What has my life become? :csad:

[Catman]

Please don't. I want this movie to make as little as possible so that they don't continue to rape the franchise.

It's too late. The movie is already a hit. My theater was packed and I'm sure everyone else's was as well.

[Gamma Ray]

Opening night doesn't mean anything. Obviously there are millions of Indy fans so it seems like it can't miss, but there's always hope.

[Manosman]

I thought Indy4 was an ok movie, but there were a few parts where I cannot believe speilberg allowed to be put into the final product, most have been mentioned already. I also thought there was a little too much cgi, where they could have used practical effects, the scorpions biting shia for example. I also didnt like the filter they used, everything seemed like there was a glare on it, cant really explain, but that has nothing to do with the story itself. the first half of the movie was a lot better than the second half, and the climax was ehh. They could have done a lot better, and I think if lucas didn't have so much say, it might have turned out better, I mean he hasn't been the same for 10 years, but oh well......7/10 just about average.

[Omega Wizard]

I loved it :up:

[Catman]

Opening night doesn't mean anything. Obviously there are millions of Indy fans so it seems like it can't miss, but there's always hope.

A strong opening is all you need for a movie to be a hit these days.

[LostSon88]

Damn this thread is all over the place...

I HATED IT!!! :cmad:
I LOVED IT!!! :grin:
I HATED IT!!! :cmad:
I LOVED IT!!! :grin:

Jeez...not that its gonna stop me from watching it. :cwink:

[Catman]

Damn this thread is all over the place...

I HATED IT!!! :cmad:
I LOVED IT!!! :grin:
I HATED IT!!! :cmad:
I LOVED IT!!! :grin:

lol. I know. Its such a love it or hate it type movie.

[Omega Wizard]

Please don't. I want this movie to make as little as possible so that they don't continue to rape the franchise.
Dude, if your going to be against a movie you should keep the childish bashing to a low, please.

Hmm....from reading the reviews on here, I don't think I will be seeing this.
Watch it for yourself to decide what you think about it,

[The Joker]

I just got back...It sucked.












I kid, I kid! It was great. I would put it just above Temple of Doom and just below Raiders. Last Crusade is still my favorite. It was a fun ride, and I had a smile on my face through almost the entire thing. I voted 9 for it, by the way. Anyone who doesnt like it has no taste, or is a fanboy who's just looking for a reason to hate this due to the prequels or Shia's involvement. Shia was great by the way, I would see a Mutt spin off if they were to ever do one.

[Catman]

Shia was great by the way, I would see a Mutt spin off if they were to ever do one.

I would give it a chance as well. He was good in the movie. The only things that sucked weren't his fault. It was the script. Him swinging from trees and the under-developed relationship with Indy were script problems.

[The Joker]

I think the tree swinging was fine. This is a movie starring a character who fights communists and has interdimensional aliens...If I can believe that, I can believe Shia going all Tarzan.

[Catman]

I think the tree swinging was fine. This is a movie starring a character who fights communists and has interdimensional aliens...If I can believe that, I can believe Shia going all Tarzan.

You make a good point, but the scene just wasn't executed well.

[Omega Wizard]

Shia was pure sex in this movie.

[Gamma Ray]

I'm really looking forward to Eagle Eye.

[The Joker]

I think it was fine. Got some laughs. And it was like "Ok, I'm stuck in a vine." then the monkey swung, and he was like "well, might as well try that." And it worked. But to each his own...as long as you liked the movie, if you didnt, I'm going to hunt you down and kill you like the dog you are :cmad: That goes to all of you :cmad:

[Catman]

Shia was pure sex in this movie.

I must agree. :o

[Gamma Ray]

How many times to movie characters have to get hit in the nuts for directors to realize it's not funny?

[Mladen]

How many times to movie characters have to get hit in the nuts for directors to realize it's not funny?

oh god, that happens?
is there a BOING sound effect?

[The Guardian]

I think it was fine. Got some laughs. And it was like "Ok, I'm stuck in a vine." then the monkey swung, and he was like "well, might as well try that." And it worked. But to each his own...as long as you liked the movie, if you didnt, I'm going to hunt you down and kill you like the dog you are :cmad: That goes to all of you :cmad:

I LOVED IT ALRIGHT, I LOVED IT,:mad: STOP YELLING AT ME!!!:mad::mad::oldrazz::D

[Catman]

There's one thing I think we can all agree on. Cate Blanchett was surprisingly hot in this movie.

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull/cate_blanchett/indianajones5.jpg

[Omega Wizard]

There's one thing I think we can all agree on. Cate Blanchett was surprisingly hot in this movie.

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull/cate_blanchett/indianajones5.jpg
She totally high jacks her pants.


I must agree. :o
If I was gay, I would totally tap that.