Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[CalebYourMaster]

Shia's monkey swing will become the evil Peter Parker dance of 2008. :o
Thats a good call.

[Octoberist]

I saw the movie. I don't know what to think of it. I want to love it, but...I liked it. It was fun, but the jokes kinda fell flat, and there's a serious lack of character development. The ending wasn't as epic as it should've been, and there were a lack of quiet moments in the 2nd half of the movie. It was action, action, and more action.

I would say, in my opinion, that KOCS falls in last place. I love Temple of Doom and this doesn't even touch it.

But I still give it a C because it was enjoyable.

[Octoberist]

the monkey swing sequence was so out of place. I'm not kidding.

[The Joker]

How many times to movie characters have to get hit in the nuts for directors to realize it's not funny?

Yes, damn that low brow humor! It's not like anything showing pain being inflicted on someone is every funny! The Three Stooges were hacks! :rolleyes:

And Shia getting nailed during the car chase got a huge laugh from my crowd, by the way. You obvioulsy WANTED to hate the movie, regardless of what you say. You're a Lucas hater, as shown by your other posts, and at this point you're just trolling these threads. We know you didn't like the movie, we know you don't like Lucas, and fine, that's great for you. We all really support your blind hatred of it, you can do what you want. You can go now.

[Octoberist]

I thought that the humor in Kingdom, was kinda weak. I mean, there were there, but it was lacking the charm of the old movies. I still liked the movie mind you.

[kez1984]

There's one thing I think we can all agree on. Cate Blanchett was surprisingly hot in this movie.

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull/cate_blanchett/indianajones5.jpg

I love Cate Blanchett, she's one of the few alive female actresses that I really, really like, she keeps getting put in alot of **** movies though that are below her.

[Octoberist]

was there any movie where Cate goes nude? out curiostiy because she was hot in Indy.

[The Joker]

was there any movie where Cate goes nude? out curiostiy because she was hot in Indy.

Not that I'm aware of. If you want to feel really uncomfortable though, see I'm Not There. She plays Bob Dylan, and is yet still hot...I'm conflicted because of that now :cmad:

[Stevens25]

Honestly,I liked Shia. He's turning into quite the action hero. I could see him taking over for Indy.But what would the film be called? Son of Indiana Jones? I would think that the title would have to have some reminders of Indy? I thought the torch may have been passed at the end of the film when Mutt picks up Indy's hat and is about to put it on,then Indy grabs it from him. lol I did like that little moment.

For my money,the sexiest women in the franchise is still Alison from the Last Crusade. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/ChrisKaye/crusade03.jpgI guess you either like hot Nazis or hot Commies? lol

[The Joker]

I think they would probably keep the same set up of the titles, but just change the name...Mutt Williams/Jones and the Curse Of Draculas Tomb or whatever the hell idea they were to come up with....man, Indiana Jones vs Dracula would be awesome though, now that I think of it...

[Gamma Ray]

For my money,the sexiest women in the franchise is still Alison from the Last Crusade. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/ChrisKaye/crusade03.jpgI guess you either like hot Nazis or hot Commies? lol

Absolutely. Aside from her unfortunate last name, she's hot!

[Kakihara]

My favorite part was Cate. The movie was pretty ridiculous and it oddly ended exactly like the first X-Files movie, which was fine for Mulder and Scully, not Indy. And it really is funny how many people have said how strangely or surprisingly hot Cate was in it. :hehe:

[Gamma Ray]

I just remembered. One of the highlights of the movie was Janitor!

[BloodyWolverine]

Its childish to have an opinion about a film? Or is it just childish if the opinion is different to yours?
No its childish when certain fans say i was raped over Indiana JOnes and Lucas thats just a silly immature lie of thinking that only nerds have. I loved it personally but i never let myself get overly pumped about it for when you do you get hate in masses because cgi was used god forbid. In my opinion the finale raiders scene was cool yes but kinda a cheesy effect and its because of that Raider is ho hum for me. Temple Of Doom and Last Crusade were alot better.
KOTCS Is good in my opinion but your free to love or hate it i am just saying it was good in my view and care less if people hate it. Its going in my dvd collection and i have no problem with that.
10/10 with no regrets for i have had fun and so what its over the top and Indy is supernatural at the heart so i don't get the problem.

[turtlefocker]

Man that ****ing SUCKED. That ending was aweful, and the final scene was ****ing cringe worthy! Now I know why Connery stayed away!

And who the **** is Ox?



Ox?

_

If I liked National Treasure 2 will I like this?

Cause most people thought that movie was **** but I found it enjoyable...

[Golgo-13]

Is it really that bad? Like someone else said, the reviews are ssssssoooooo mixed, it's one of those movies you can't tell whether it's good or not, you have to see it for yourself.

[BloodyWolverine]

Well in my opinion its good but not as good as Crusade or the classics and in my opinion it shouldn't be for classics like those cannot be made again. With KOTC you get a reminder of great times and you can have fun with it and thats what people need to have going in. Just have fun and don't become a film critic. Choose for yourself to go but i say go have fun for its on par with Iron Man if you ask me but heck Indy in any compasity is better then any last few big box office films except for Batman Begins and The Rinsg trilogy.

[SuperKoala]

I thought it was excellent. the only part I didn't like was the ending

[Kaleb]

Went to see a preview of the of the new Indiana Jones film and I got to say it was the weakest of all the series,the script was really bad,and the dialoge even worse.Jones somehow does more spectacular stunts in this film dispite his age,the only enjoyment I got from this was watching the comedic interaction between Harrison and Shia,but that wasnt enough.The main villian played by Kate Blanchett is one of the worst villians I had ever seen,I kept on thinking that she was really just a sidekick for a bigger villian.Well Im done ranting I give this film a 6/10.

[Browncoat]

I'm going to see it tonight, but I already know about the ending. It's no surprise, since it's been very clear since day 1 that the movie was going to deal with the subject.

What alot of people seem to be forgetting (or never realized) that the Indiana Jones movies are supposed to capture a certain flavor of the type of films that were popular in the time period in which they were set, as well as what was on the American mindset in those times as well. Now ask yourself...what type of movies were popular in the 1950's? B-Rated Sci-Fi

[Symbiotic]

Only one question, guys. Does Indy live? (I know what Lucas said about Indy 5 but for all I know he could've just been saying that so we wouldn't know anything.)

[Kaleb]

Only one question, guys. Does Indy live? (I know what Lucas said about Indy 5 but for all I know he could've just been saying that so we wouldn't know anything.) yip

[turtlefocker]

...yea...

[turtlefocker]

"who the **** is Ox?"

[Symbiotic]

yip

...yea...:word:

[Kaleb]

"who the **** is Ox?"
Aparently his best friend. :huh:

[turtlefocker]

Aparently his best friend. :huh:

I'm more confused now than before I asked the question... which was a quote from a negative review from here on the hype... I'm lost.

Ox is a character in the film? Why is that a point against the movie?..

[Hunter Rider]

I just got back, I'd write my usual full review but there is little point as i wont be back. Basically i LOVED it, I wanted a pulp adventure story from the 50's, I wanted to laugh and i wanted the feel of the old movies with the type of set pieces modern tech affords movie makers...in short i wanted an Indy movie and that's Exactly what i got.

On a side note Janus Kaminski's cinematography was gorgeous and Spielberg's shot selection sublime.

10/10

To Sciwolf, Rezzo, Cafefighterkip, Dr. Watson and danyose, we have followed this pretty much all the way, I hope you guys enjoyed it. :yay:

[Dark Donnie]

I just got back, I'd write my usual full review but there is little point as i wont be back. Basically i LOVED it, I wanted a pulp adventure story from the 50's, I wanted to laugh and i wanted the feel of the old movies with the type of set pieces modern tech affords movie makers...in short i wanted an Indy movie and that's Exactly what i got.

On a side note Janus Kaminski's cinematography was gorgeous and Spielberg's shot selection sublime.

10/10

To Sciwolf, Rezzo, Cafefighterkip, Dr. Watson and danyose, we have followed this pretty much all the way, I hope you guys enjoyed it. :yay:

Glad you loved it....I will be heading out there in about 10 hours:yay:

[Kaleb]

I'm more confused now than before I asked the question... which was a quote from a negative review from here on the hype... I'm lost.

Ox is a character in the film? Why is that a point against the movie?..

Yip, ox was indy's friend since they were in young kids at university together.

[turtlefocker]

I just got back, I'd write my usual full review but there is little point as i wont be back. Basically i LOVED it, I wanted a pulp adventure story from the 50's, I wanted to laugh and i wanted the feel of the old movies with the type of set pieces modern tech affords movie makers...in short i wanted an Indy movie and that's Exactly what i got.

On a side note Janus Kaminski's cinematography was gorgeous and Spielberg's shot selection sublime.

10/10

To Sciwolf, Rezzo, Cafefighterkip, Dr. Watson and danyose, we have followed this pretty much all the way, I hope you guys enjoyed it. :yay:

Reading that made me feel all warm inside.

[cosmicherosa]

Was Shia a weak point? I just can't take him seriously in this role. I know it is a fun movie, but he just sticks out like a sore when I see him.

[turtlefocker]

Yip, ox was indy's friend since they were in young kids at university together.

I see, I guess the reviewer didn't like him because he wasn't mentioned in any of the other movies.

Kind of a lame concern since the previous three are filled with characters that are only mentioned in the films they are in even though they all have a 'history with Indy. (Lao-Che, Belloq, "fedora")

[DarknessOfDeath]

Ford- Who gives a ****
LOL

I just got back, I'd write my usual full review but there is little point as i wont be back. Basically i LOVED it, I wanted a pulp adventure story from the 50's, I wanted to laugh and i wanted the feel of the old movies with the type of set pieces modern tech affords movie makers...in short i wanted an Indy movie and that's Exactly what i got.

On a side note Janus Kaminski's cinematography was gorgeous and Spielberg's shot selection sublime.

10/10

To Sciwolf, Rezzo, Cafefighterkip, Dr. Watson and danyose, we have followed this pretty much all the way, I hope you guys enjoyed it. :yay:


Your leaving? :(

ooh. well reading your review made me feel all warm inside too. :)

[The Amazing Lee]

I see, I guess the reviewer didn't like him because he wasn't mentioned in any of the other movies.

Kind of a lame concern since the previous three are filled with characters that are only mentioned in the films they are in even though they all have a 'history with Indy. (Lao-Che, Belloq, "fedora")

Lao-Che was such a pointless character, it annoys me haha.

[DarknessOfDeath]

So was it fun, adventurous and exciting? Cause thats what I liked about the other three but again they weren't anywhere near as perfect (no kind of movie is anyway) but I love Indiana Jones :heart: :)

[terry78]

Probably gonna go during my lunch hour today, but may only be able to catch the first hour and a half. I told the boss I had to run a "personal" errand during lunch so I get an extra 30 min. :p

[War Party]

Your leaving? :(

ooh. well reading your review made me feel all warm inside too. :)

He's not coming back to the thread. He's sticking around th boards.

[turtlefocker]

Lao-Che was such a pointless character, it annoys me haha.

Point is, if he accepted Lao-Che he should have been able to accept Indy having an old University buddy show up out of nowhere.

All the complaints I have seen have been really lame. I mean, I may end up not liking this movie, but so far the people who don't like this movie couldn't have possible liked the previous three since they are filled with the same flaws.


They have corny dialog, over-the-top action scenes, annoying characters, and ****ty effects.... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

:indy:

[DarknessOfDeath]

He's not coming back to the thread. He's sticking around th boards.

oh...

ok :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

Point is, if he accepted Lao-Che he should have been able to accept Indy having an old University buddy show up out of nowhere.

All the complaints I have seen have been really lame. I mean, I may end up not liking this movie, but so far the people who don't like this movie couldn't have possible liked the previous three since they are filled with the same flaws.


They have corny dialog, over-the-top action scenes, annoying characters, and ****ty effects.... and I? wouldn't have it any other way.

:indy:

Water raft sequence :o

[GhostPoet]

9/10
A fantastic addition to the series and proof that age has nothing to do with bringing a great character on screen again. Indy is full of life and personality.

[deathfromabove]

Point is, if he accepted Lao-Che he should have been able to accept Indy having an old University buddy show up out of nowhere.

All the complaints I have seen have been really lame. I mean, I may end up not liking this movie, but so far the people who don't like this movie couldn't have possible liked the previous three since they are filled with the same flaws.


They have corny dialog, over-the-top action scenes, annoying characters, and ****ty effects.... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

:indy:

:up:

[TNC9852002]

Yeah....this is what I feared. The Indy fans wanted things to stay the same and at the same time, updated for today's environment. The problem is, where do you make those compromises and when are you willing to see how certain aspects of the past Indy films that many people have grown to love, might not blend well with today's moviegoer's standards and expectations?

Were today's Indy fans willing to accept a new Indy movie while also adjusting to today's standards of moviemaking where everything needs to be explicit, detailed, dark, and logical? Is there a place today for the thrill-ride, campy, and popcorn type anymore? I mean, like I've said before, of the Indy series only started out in today's time, I'm sure the response would be a whole lot different. Today, there's a totally different mindset in place than there was 15-20 years ago.

Most of us cherish these Indy movies because we respect the fact that these movies came out probably before we were born or while we were still kids and a lot of liberties were taken and can be overlooked easily. Today is definitely not the case anymore and this is why this film is a very evenly split love/hate movie...and like most love/hate movies, people will eventually come to appreciate this film. Maybe it'll take 10 years or so, but it'll definitely become a lot more accepted later in time once people adjust once again to this genre.

-TNC

[terry78]

Exactly. You become more anal and picky as an adult than when you were a child, where if it looked cool you loved it, regardless of how it was done. You just had the "wow" factor more ingrained in you.

[SpideyLad]

I'm gonna give it an 8/10. It loses points for the whole Tarzan routine, and I felt that the ending was a bit rushed.

[TNC9852002]

BTW, how in the hell is Lucas to blame here for everything that was wrong with this movie? Can someone explain to me in detail where these conclusions are coming from because not once have I seen anyone actually blaming the actual director of this movie, the not-so inflaliable Steven Spielberg.

I mean, it's getting a tad bit annoying. Well, it wouldn't be as much so if someone can prove to me what aspect of this movie that Lucas was a part of. We only know that he was a co-writer of the story and a producer, but that shouldn't mean he should get the blame for whenever someone doesn't like a computer generated scorpion.

Anyone feel this way here?

-TNC

[cosmicherosa]

I mean, it's getting a tad bit annoying.

Get a hold of yourself, and stop looking for attention.

[Immortalfire]

I gotta say, I wasn't that impressed. Ford still is Indy, age or not. And the rest of the cast did and ok job too.
But otherwise, I was sorry to see this as an Indiana Jones film.

For one, I've never been a fan of giving the hero a son for really no reason. And for the overall story, not too slick. It basically came to Indiana meets Roswell? My god George, get some freaking dignity. Indy and Marion's marriage couldn't have been cheesier, even if Velveeta had been dumped on them as they exited the chapel.

It was an ok effort, but I think twenty years from now, people will still be watching the original three, and nothing else.

[terry78]

Get a hold of yourself, and stop looking for attention.

You can't be serious.

[terry78]

Point blank, making a sequel to a pop culture franchise decades later is always a gamble, and it can either come off well or not at all,and usually the lifelong fans are the first to say it's the latter.

[TNC9852002]

Has anyone even mentioned David Koepp anywhere in this thread?

:p
-TNC

[SpideyLad]

Don't try to defend this film people. Don't try to pin it on someone else... How many times are we going to give Lucas a pass here? "Ah he didn't have any help with the prequels"... this time we had the great cast... great director... we didn't even have an annoying kid since Shia was decent in this... yet we still get a piss poor attempt at another Indy go around. Spielberg deserves some flack too... it seemed like both Blanchett and Winstone were carbon copies of characters we have seen time and time again. Spielberg did nothing to distinguish them. And the handling of John Hurt's character... who shouldn't have had the role he had (I thought it was a freaking cameo???) just became such a distraction for me. Poorly directed supporting cast... and Ford seemed to lose it. He never captured Indy like he has in the past. Ford really did run out of gas. A lot of blame to go around... but Lucas doesn't deserve a pass for this he just doesn't.

I'd gladly defend the film, cause I actually liked it.:o

Has anyone even mentioned David Koepp anywhere in this thread?

:p
-TNC

I doubt it.:oldrazz:

[Kaleb]

possibly the worst line of the film


Indy :''Have they gone back to space''
Ox ''No ,they gone to the space inbetween spaces ''

[War Party]

I really liked the movie. It was fun. What more could I ask for?

[Kaleb]

I really liked the movie. It was fun. What more could I ask for?I dont know, um an actual Indiana Jones film ?

[SpideyLad]

I dont know, um an actual Indiana Jones film ?

I consider it to be an actual Indiana Jones film....

[War Party]

I dont know, um an actual Indiana Jones film ?

Which I consider it to be. Well, I'm done with this thread, because it's just going get insane in here.

[FaT_tONle]

Which I consider it to be. Well, I'm done with this thread, because it's just going get insane in here.

True true... get the posts in while its still early. And that line Kaleb pointed out sums up all you need to know about Hurt's character... a big WTF were they thinking?

[britrogue]

I have 4 and a half hours to wait unril I see it!

[DarknessOfDeath]

I really liked the movie. It was fun. What more could I ask for?

I consider it to be an actual Indiana Jones film....

Im only seeing this movie cause of Ford and that I grew to enjoy Indiana Jones...while growing up that is.

Its not like Im expecting this movie to be just as well as perfect when the other ones weren't. The movies were and have always been fun, exciting and adventurous.

they all have flaws so its not like Indy4 won't be faced with the same
dilemma - cause I expected Indy4 would follow the same style the first three were. Im not expecting a lot from this movie, nor am I expecting little.

I never got to see the first 3 in theaters... and to see Ford as Indy on the big screen is an honor cause he defined Indiana Jones and he is Indiana Jones.

lols this scene is hysterical... women are. Willie screams at everything that comes insight. Watching TOD. omg...women are hilarious.

"Thats why they call it the jungle, sweetheart."

That is so a Han Solo quote...

[Excel]

I am aware this is a movie and even more aware that this is an Indiana Jones movie, but the suspension of disbelief just bordered on ridiculous.

Swinging on vines Shia? Surviving 3 water falls? Crashing into a tree at 50 MPH? Surviving a nuclear explosion by getting into a fridge? Being ok 100% fine after said fridge is tossed 20 miles? Being 100% after getting out of said fridge on the ground just hit by a by a nuclear bomb? Flying saucers out of the ground? Flying magnetic gunpowder?

Im willing ti suspend disbelief and really loved this film up until they crash off the waterfalls...the last 2-25 minutes is soooooooo stupid. That final scene is just :huh::huh: what were they thinking?

[Dr. Watson]

I just got back, I'd write my usual full review but there is little point as i wont be back. Basically i LOVED it, I wanted a pulp adventure story from the 50's, I wanted to laugh and i wanted the feel of the old movies with the type of set pieces modern tech affords movie makers...in short i wanted an Indy movie and that's Exactly what i got.

On a side note Janus Kaminski's cinematography was gorgeous and Spielberg's shot selection sublime.

10/10

To Sciwolf, Rezzo, Cafefighterkip, Dr. Watson and danyose, we have followed this pretty much all the way, I hope you guys enjoyed it. :yay:

I am so happy to see your review HR, and FYI...I really liked this.

I thought it was a great update. To me, this film was on par with Crusade in terms of action and aventure, and I thought there was some pretty funny bits as well. The whole opening action sequence was great, and I got big laughs out of the greaser fight in the pop shoppe. I was generally pretty happy with most of the supporting cast. Hurt seemed like he was really having fun with the role, and Blanchett was a great villian. I liked her to because her thirst for knowledge rather then focusing on a specific object was an interesting twist for an Indy villian. Plus the little easter eggs for hardcore fans were great especially the nod to Star Wars at the very end :D

That said I had a few minor quibbles with it. I thought Winstone's character was a little too hammy at times, and it was blantatly obvious that he was never a triple agent. I would have rather him just be pure baddy all the way through. There were also some action sequences that made me roll my eyes specifically Mutt swinging along the vines with the monkeys.

Overall though, I enjoyed myself a great deal, and left the theatre with a great big smile on my face. 8/10.

[War Party]

I know I said I wasn't coming back to this thread for awhile, but everything Dr. Watson said about the movie I agree with.

[BeserkerHilf]

Plus the little easter eggs for hardcore fans were great especially the nod to Star Wars at the very end :D



what easter egg was this?

[Nirvana]

I saw this last night at midnight. I have to say I really loved it. In my opinion it fits perfectly well with the other three movies. It doesn't feel any different. I enjoyed myself quite a bit. Harrison Ford still kicks total ass. I'm pretty surprised at how much he did at his age. I also loved the nods to Marcus Brody and Dr. Jones Sr towards the beginning. Also Shia haters are crazy...He didn't feel out of place at all in the film and I think he did a great job. Also the opening warehouse scene was awesome. The action overall was great.

The only problem I had was with
the jungle car chase. I mean sure all the other Indy films had over the top moments that fit well (falling from a plane with an boat, crawling underneath a car, etc) but this scene was so ridiculous that it lost any sense of realism. From the cringe worthy vine swing, sword fight on two cars, "Jonesy!" and getting punched in the face, crappy CGI giant ants, falling off a waterfall three times. Ugh! But once it got past this point it started to pick up again.

Also, this wasn't bad in my opinion, but I do have to say that
even though I knew the Crystal Skull had alien origins, it was still pretty different seeing aliens and UFOs flying out of the ground. Seeing Indy and a UFO in the same shot together was strange. It's not bad, but it was just different...

Also, I was pretty impressed with John Williams score. "The Call of the Crystal" really stuck in my mind well. Overall, I loved it. I think it fits perfectly well with the other three and is a worthy addition to the Indiana Jones films. Harrison Ford is back and I welcome him with full arms. I still cannot decide was order to list the films from greatest to least. I hope they move on with Indy 5.

All the Shia haters, and bashers of this film can go to hell.

[Nirvana]

what easter egg was this?

"I have a bad feeling about this"

[DarknessOfDeath]

I saw this last night at midnight. I have to say I really loved it. In my opinion it fits perfectly well with the other three movies. It doesn't feel any different. I enjoyed myself quite a bit. Harrison Ford still kicks total ass. I'm pretty surprised at how much he did at his age. I also loved the nods to Marcus Brody and Dr. Jones Sr towards the beginning. Also Shia haters are crazy...He didn't feel out of place at all in the film and I think he did a great job. Also the opening warehouse scene was awesome. The action overall was great.

The only problem I had was with
the jungle car chase. I mean sure all the other Indy films had over the top moments that fit well (falling from a plane with an boat, crawling underneath a car, etc) but this scene was so ridiculous that it lost any sense of realism. From the cringe worthy vine swing, sword fight on two cars, "Jonesy!" and getting punched in the face, crappy CGI giant ants, falling off a waterfall three times. Ugh! But once it got past this point it started to pick up again.

Also, this wasn't bad in my opinion, but I do have to say that
even though I knew the Crystal Skull had alien origins, it was still pretty different seeing aliens and UFOs flying out of the ground. Seeing Indy and a UFO in the same shot together was strange. It's not bad, but it was just different...

Also, I was pretty impressed with John Williams score. "The Call of the Crystal" really stuck in my mind well. Overall, I loved it. I think it fits perfectly well with the other three and is a worthy addition to the Indiana Jones films. Harrison Ford is back and I welcome him with full arms. I still cannot decide was order to list the films from greatest to least. I hope they move on with Indy 5.

All the Shia haters, and bashers of this film can go to hell.

Watching TOD to ease my nervousness... your review makes me feel glad.

[Nirvana]

BTW, how in the hell is Lucas to blame here for everything that was wrong with this movie? Can someone explain to me in detail where these conclusions are coming from because not once have I seen anyone actually blaming the actual director of this movie, the not-so inflaliable Steven Spielberg.

I mean, it's getting a tad bit annoying. Well, it wouldn't be as much so if someone can prove to me what aspect of this movie that Lucas was a part of. We only know that he was a co-writer of the story and a producer, but that shouldn't mean he should get the blame for whenever someone doesn't like a computer generated scorpion.

Anyone feel this way here?

-TNC

I totally agree.

I gotta say, I wasn't that impressed. Ford still is Indy, age or not. And the rest of the cast did and ok job too.
But otherwise, I was sorry to see this as an Indiana Jones film.

For one, I've never been a fan of giving the hero a son for really no reason. And for the overall story, not too slick. It basically came to Indiana meets Roswell? My god George, get some freaking dignity. Indy and Marion's marriage couldn't have been cheesier, even if Velveeta had been dumped on them as they exited the chapel.

It was an ok effort, but I think twenty years from now, people will still be watching the original three, and nothing else.

Your point right here well proven. :whatever:

I mean in reality hasn't Spielberg made more alien films that Lucas has made?

[Darknightnomis]

I'll be Seeing it tonight. Review tommorow. :woot:

[RickO'Connell]

Did they hint at Indy's father dying sometime after the last Indy movie ?

[Octoberist]

Watching TOD to ease my nervousness... your review makes me feel glad.

I think Temple of Doom is a way better movie than KOCS, no question. However, I would put KOCS last in my least favorite Indy movie. There are elements that I liked but the 2nd half was something they needed to polished up.

I don't mind the over-the-action, but things get mentioned and nothing gets developed. But it was fun still.

[Lord Valumart]

so i saw it like 5/6 hours ago...i'm still grinning:woot: it was so awesome...from the opening through to the placing of the skull...then it got a bit mental and kinda "er...ok..." but then it got better again and was so frekin awesome:indy:

[DarknessOfDeath]

so i saw it like 5/6 hours ago...i'm still grinning:woot: it was so awesome...from the opening through to the placing of the skull...then it got a bit mental and kinda "er...ok..." but then it got better again and was so frekin awesome:indy:

you know I was thinking about you LV.

Whats your rating?

[War Party]

Did they hint at Indy's father dying sometime after the last Indy movie ?

Yes.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I dont know, um an actual Indiana Jones film ?It's an Indiana Jones film. That would be ridiculous to say that Phantom Menace is not a Star Wars film.

You can't get any more Indiana Jones...Harrison Ford, as, Indiana Jones, George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, whip, fedora, searching for an artifact.

You may think it's a poorly done Indiana Jones film, but it's an Indiana Jones film.
I thought Temple of Doom and Last Crusade sucked, but they're still Indiana Jones films.

[Lord Valumart]

you know I was thinking about you LV.

Whats your rating?

i'd give it a 9/10...probably gets ranked

raiders
kingdom
crusade
temple...

[DarknessOfDeath]

i'd give it a 9/10...probably gets ranked

raiders
kingdom
crusade
temple...

:up: Thank you... :indy: You've eased most of my nervousness.

Can't wait til tonight :hehe:

[Mister J]

My god George, get some freaking dignity.

:funny:

[Lord Valumart]

:up: Thank you... :indy: You've eased most of my nervousness.

Can't wait til tonight :hehe:

me neither, seeing it again with my parents:woot::indy:

[DarknessOfDeath]

me neither, seeing it again with my parents:woot::indy:

Cool.

Im seeing it with a friend and probably go see it again with my parents :up:

:indy: go Indy! :D

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Point is, if he accepted Lao-Che he should have been able to accept Indy having an old University buddy show up out of nowhere.

All the complaints I have seen have been really lame. I mean, I may end up not liking this movie, but so far the people who don't like this movie couldn't have possible liked the previous three since they are filled with the same flaws.


They have corny dialog, over-the-top action scenes, annoying characters, and ****ty effects.... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

:indy:Whoa whoa, I hope this doesn't have ****ty effects, 'cause the effects in the old ones were top-of-the-line...for the time.
The effects should be top-of-the-line now, if it's coming out now.

[War Party]

I thought the effects were excellent, granted for a few parts.

[Lord Valumart]

Cool.

Im seeing it with a friend and probably go see it again with my parents :up:

:indy: go Indy! :D

i saw it with two of my mates who knew that if this movie was bad i'd be hell to be with and if it was good i'd be hellto be with. we were there until we needed to pee and then i hugged them cause i was so happy...

it really was just awesome...

[Octoberist]

I do have to say Harrison was excellent in KOCS. excellent. he's back.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

i saw it with two of my mates who knew that if this movie was bad i'd be hell to be with and if it was good i'd be hellto be with. we were there until we needed to pee and then i hugged them cause i was so happy...

it really was just awesome...
...and now your life is over. :(

[Octoberist]

Whoa whoa, I hope this doesn't have ****ty effects, 'cause the effects in the old ones were top-of-the-line...for the time.
The effects should be top-of-the-line now, if it's coming out now.

it's over the top...in a pulp way i guess. kinda weird,kinda cartoony. it's in the same mold as the old films, but with a modern take that you makes you go "hmmm".

[Immortalfire]

:funny:

My hope is that someone, somewhere will sig that.

[CalebYourMaster]

I gotta say, I wasn't that impressed. Ford still is Indy, age or not. And the rest of the cast did and ok job too.
But otherwise, I was sorry to see this as an Indiana Jones film.

For one, I've never been a fan of giving the hero a son for really no reason. And for the overall story, not too slick. It basically came to Indiana meets Roswell? My god George, get some freaking dignity. Indy and Marion's marriage couldn't have been cheesier, even if Velveeta had been dumped on them as they exited the chapel.

It was an ok effort, but I think twenty years from now, people will still be watching the original three, and nothing else.
i totally agree...

[Jack O Lantern]

So just saw the movie and here is my humble review.


I liked it. It was on par with Temple of Doom. It starts kind of slow and it takes a while for them to find the spirit of the character again; but they do find it. I was hoping for less effects than they have but none of them made me cridge.

I can't believe that some people are hating on the Ant scene; that's classic Indy; snakes in the 1st; bugs in the 2nd and Rats in the 3rd. This time they were just specific with what bug it was.

I like the swutch around of the Father/Son dynamic that they had in Last Crusade. Shi Lebeof impressed me in thsi father [not enough to learn how to spell his name mind.]

Now for the bad. The monkey swing scene, what the ****? Did Keopp get that attached to Spidey? Also I didn't like the Brody statue being knocked over; was that necessary?

Loved the ending with Indy taking the hat with the smile that says "No chance, junior!"

[Octoberist]

the actual ending was cute, in my opinion. but there was no build up to it, that's the problem.

I don't think KOCS has the Phantom Menace vibe, but of the 'Revenge of the Sith' tone where it's watchable enough.

I don't think today's kids will like KOCS more than the older movies however. Raiders and Temple of Doom were more gruelsome, whereas KOCS could've been rated PG easily if they omited certain scenes..

[Octoberist]

So just saw the movie and here is my humble review.


I liked it. It was on par with Temple of Doom. It starts kind of slow and it takes a while for them to find the spirit of the character again; but they do find it. I was hoping for less effects than they have but none of them made me cridge.

I can't believe that some people are hating on the Ant scene; that's classic Indy; snakes in the 1st; bugs in the 2nd and Rats in the 3rd. This time they were just specific with what bug it was.

I like the swutch around of the Father/Son dynamic that they had in Last Crusade. Shi Lebeof impressed me in thsi father [not enough to learn how to spell his name mind.]

Now for the bad. The monkey swing scene, what the ****? Did Keopp get that attached to Spidey? Also I didn't like the Brody statue being knocked over; was that necessary?

Loved the ending with Indy taking the hat with the smile that says "No chance, junior!"





The statue thing was a nice nod, but at the same time, I was like "ehh?"

[Kaleb]

I thought that If they had left out the alien bit in the storyline ,and say instead of if been an Alien mythos, they made it like a voodoo mythos, then it might have been good

[Lord Valumart]

I thought that If they had left out the alien bit in the storyline ,and say instead of if been an Alien mythos, they made it like a voodoo mythos, then it might have been good

really? i liked that...the only thing that bothered me ever so slightly was that all the crystal guys became one and a fleshed out alien...that was kinda wrong but still...eyes on fire:up:

[Octoberist]

I thought that If they had left out the alien bit in the storyline ,and say instead of if been an Alien mythos, they made it like a voodoo mythos, then it might have been good

Yes. Less is more. the big reveal was kinda awkward.

[Octoberist]

really? i liked that...the only thing that bothered me ever so slightly was that all the crystal guys became one and a fleshed out alien...that was kinda wrong but still...eyes on fire:up:

Man, ILM must of been out of it because their work in this film was so-so. and it had less effects than Transformers or Iron Man.

[Jack O Lantern]

The statue thing was a nice nod, but at the same time, I was like "ehh?"

I liked at first because I thought it was showing Marcos is still helping Indy; then the head fell of and Indy is clearly upset by that but we never come back to it

[Gonzo]

I'm seeing the film later on today. I'm not letting all these reviews get me down, I'm seeing it cause I want to see an Indiana jones film and if it's not as good as the other ones, then so be it. Besides, I'm not expecting it to be as great as Raiders, no indy film will ever top that. All I hope is to be entertained and with regard to some of the um, humor stuff I've read, you gotta remember, Raiders had a monkey do the hitler salute. It doesn't get more outlandish than that, it's funny but still outlandish.

[Octoberist]

I liked at first because I thought it was showing Marcos is still helping Indy; then the head fell of and Indy is clearly upset by that but we never come back to it

yeah, it's just a gag. nothing else. poor fellow.

[Octoberist]

I'm seeing the film later on today. I'm not letting all these reviews get me down, I'm seeing it cause I want to see an Indiana jones film and if it's not as good as the other ones, then so be it. Besides, I'm not expecting it to be as great as Raiders, no indy film will ever top that. All I hope is to be entertained and with regard to some of the um, humor stuff I've read, you gotta remember, Raiders had a monkey do the hitler salute. It doesn't get more outlandish than that, it's funny but still outlandish.

it's entertaining. the thing is that the movie lacked any witty lines so that's why earlier, I said that the 'funny' parts were 'ehh'.

[Matt]

Whoa whoa, I hope this doesn't have ****ty effects, 'cause the effects in the old ones were top-of-the-line...for the time.
The effects should be top-of-the-line now, if it's coming out now.

The only time the effects really suck are when Kate Blanchett's character and Mutt are sword fighting while each is on a different jeep. The CGI is really bad, but fortunately it is a short sequence.

[Octoberist]

yes, the effects/green screen in the jeep scene was terrible.

and for no reason too. this isn't SOny Imageworks that we'll taling about here, but ILM. ILM! come on!

[Immortalfire]

We all know how much George loves CGI.

[Lord Valumart]

Man, ILM must of been out of it because their work in this film was so-so. and it had less effects than Transformers or Iron Man.

yeh...but it was still better that most of the effects in the star wars prequals. i siad to my mate after it "thats how cgi should be used...not for adding little alien chickens"

[Octoberist]

yeh...but it was still better that most of the effects in the star wars prequals. i siad to my mate after it "thats how cgi should be used...not for adding little alien chickens"

I mean, it wasn't horrid but they kinda stood out in certain scenes.

The ants looks great upclose but fake from afar. Again, the greenscreens were questionable at times. but they did do their jobs well.

[Kaleb]

suprised nobody mentioned that scene with all those ''killer Ants'' , that was abit too over the top for me.

[Octoberist]

the ants reminded me of King Kong: one scene after another, there's always some type of peril....

..it was okay. not as bad the 'vine swinging' with the CGI monkey-buddies.

[Kaleb]

I mean, it wasn't horrid but they kinda stood out in certain scenes.

The ants looks great upclose but fake from afar. Again, the greenscreens were questionable at times. but they did do their jobs well.oops ok I see you mentioned it

[Immortalfire]

suprised nobody mentioned that scene with all those ''killer Ants'' , that was a bit too over the top for me.
Yah, that didn't go over too well in the Indiana Jones tradition of a creepy crawlers scene.

[Lord Valumart]

I mean, it wasn't horrid but they kinda stood out in certain scenes.

The ants looks great upclose but fake from afar. Again, the greenscreens were questionable at times. but they did do their jobs well.

yeh...the swinging scene stood out, but not that much else...i might just have been over come from seeing indiana jones on the big screen and ignored most of it's flaws...:huh:

[Octoberist]

Yah, that didn't go over too well in the Indiana Jones tradition of a creepy crawlers scene.

it was more shoehorned in there, that's why I thought it wasn't a needed thing to have them.

[Kaleb]

the ants reminded me of King Kong: one scene after another, there's always some type of peril....

..it was okay. not as bad the 'vine swinging' with the CGI monkey-buddies.

worst scenes for me

1. Shia swinning like a monkey
2.killer ants
3. the final scene with the alien and Kate
4.Shia and Kate sword fighting on the two vehicles.

[Octoberist]

yeh...the swinging scene stood out, but not that much else...i might just have been over come from seeing indiana jones on the big screen and ignored most of it's flaws...:huh:

I think I had more problems with the story, esp with the 2nd half.

I think it's because there's a lack of conversational scenes. those quiet moments where you get to know the characters more. I mean, there are some, but no enough. I really wished Cate's character was explored more.

[Lord Valumart]

I think I had more problems with the story, esp with the 2nd half.

I think it's because there's a lack of conversational scenes. those quiet moments where you get to know the characters more. I mean, there are some, but no enough. I really wished Cate's character was explored more.

yeh...wanting to know things was kinda bad motivation for the main villian...

[luke1234]

did anyone thnk the atomic bomb scene was over the top? i sure did

[Octoberist]

did anyone thnk the atomic bomb scene was over the top? i sure did

yeah, it was.:oldrazz:

[Kaleb]

did anyone thnk the atomic bomb scene was over the top? i sure did

omg, another scene to add to my list. :(

[luke1234]

yeah, it was.:oldrazz:

i mean it was funny at first when he was like "this isnt good" but how he escaped it i was like c mon, i thought he was gonna find a military shelter somewhere underground

[Lord Valumart]

did anyone thnk the atomic bomb scene was over the top? i sure did

not really...

was it over the top when the arc killed a bunch of nazis? or when the false grail aged someone to the point of death?

[Jack O Lantern]

I was just glad that they addressed the problem of the radioactivity. I thought he was just going to walk away.

That's another story for another movie

[luke1234]

not really...

was it over the top when the arc killed a bunch of nazis? or when the false grail aged someone to the point of death?

yeah but they were all supernatural elements, this was like a realistic problem and a way over the top escape from it

[The Man of Steel]

I Thougt the movie was great, exept for maybe the part with Shia/Mutt with the monkeys

[Kaleb]

this film made me wish the nazi had won :(

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The only time the effects really suck are when Kate Blanchett's character and Mutt are sword fighting while each is on a different jeep. The CGI is really bad, but fortunately it is a short sequence.I read something about Shia being from the "greenscreen age" and sucky effects in a part involving jeeps.

But, I'm sure it can't look as fake as those little stop motion animated G.I. Joe and Barbie dolls in the mine carts in Temple of Doom. :)

[Lord Valumart]

yeah but they were all supernatural elements, this was like a realistic problem and a way over the top escape from it

i really wasn't that bothered...it's indiana jones, parts of it are gonnabe over the top and slightly stupid...

[RickO'Connell]

I enjoyed the movie but there were to many what the **** moments. Though I guess it can be said that the skull was protecting them ? Especially during the 3 waterfall falls

[Octoberist]

i also didn't like how they kept on mentioning Indy's real name by his colleges. In the past, it was always Indiana, even with The Last Crusade. The "Henry Jr" thing was just briefly mentioned at the end, and that was all.

Here, they kept on saying, as if it's common knowledge between the characters. Since when?

[luke1234]

i really wasn't that bothered...it's indiana jones, parts of it are gonnabe over the top and slightly stupid...

true i guess im just nitpicking, i figured the real problem i had with it was the fact that after almost 2 decades this was the script they came up with, it was just mediocre, i mean i know all the TOD and LC had mediocre scripts but i though this was enough time to come up with something special instead of just a mediocre script.

harrison ford did kick ass though

[Octoberist]

I read something about Shia being from the "greenscreen age" and sucky effects in a part involving jeeps.

But, I'm sure it can't look as fake as those little stop motion animated G.I. Joe and Barbie dolls in the mine carts in Temple of Doom. :)

I disagree because they're a novelty with the 'mine cart' scene in Temple of Doom that I liked.

Here, ILM could've done a better job with the greenscreen.

[RickO'Connell]

Here, they kept on saying, as if it's common knowledge between the characters. Since when?

They had to also establish Mutt's name which is Henry Jones Junior The Third :o

[Octoberist]

true i guess im just nitpicking, i figured the real problem i had with it was the fact that after almost 2 decades this was the script they came up with, it was just mediocre, i mean i know all the TOD and LC had mediocre scripts but i though this was enough time to come up with something special instead of just a mediocre script.

harrison ford did kick ass though

mediocre? you sure?

I think the Indy sequels didn't have the dramatic weight of Raiders but they were not mediocre.

[Excel]

Last Crusade is the best of series :hehe:

[luke1234]

mediocre? you sure?

I think the Indy sequels didn't have the dramatic weight of Raiders but they were not mediocre.

yeah i thought they were mediocre, i thought the direction was brilliant however and thats what made them worth qualified sequels

[Lord Valumart]

true i guess im just nitpicking, i figured the real problem i had with it was the fact that after almost 2 decades this was the script they came up with, it was just mediocre, i mean i know all the TOD and LC had mediocre scripts but i though this was enough time to come up with something special instead of just a mediocre script.

harrison ford did kick ass though

it wasn;t mediocre...it was good, on par with last crusade. some bits were good other's not so good...like all movies.

and yes, ford did kick major arse...

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I disagree because they're a novelty with the 'mine cart' scene in Temple of Doom that I liked.

Here, ILM could've done a better job with the greenscreen.Pff, dude...greenscreen S.A.W.K.E.D. back then.

They probably intentionally made it look fake, to placate all of the dweebs who act like CGI is the Devil and static rubber puppets and jerky doll animation and inch thick matte lines are the key to magical effects. :o


Like th^t, the dolls look totally fake, but it's "novel" ?
No, it's "totally fake effects" because they couldn't do the scene with real sets/people...but it's from the old days, so it's "good". :o

[luke1234]

i also did like the references to the past movies, especially the area 51 scene for people that have seen it

[Lord Valumart]

i also did like the references to the past movies, especially the area 51 scene for people that have seen it

what about the refference to young indy? cause i bloody loved that

[Matt]

Anyhow, my thoughts:

6 out of 10. The question for me with this movie has always been, will Spielberg save Lucas' legacy or will Lucas drag Spielberg down to his level (if only for one movie, because lets face it, every movie Spielberg makes from this point on can be crap and he will still go down as one of the greatest ever)? Sadly it is the latter.

This movie is mediocrity defined. The plot is horrible (Indy should be fantasy, not sci-fi. This is a full on sci-fi movie). The climax is ultimately unsatisfying and the rest of the plot just seems like filler between various moments spent in Commie captivity. Plus the ending is the cheesiest thing I have ever seen on film.

The character development is horribly done. After the reveal about Mutt, for example, they all just sort of shrug it off after the initial argument. Same with the whole double agent thing. They are just all willing to accept it with absolutely no question despite the fact he tried to kill them numerous times and is actively plundering the ruins right in front of them while the others are in mortal danger.

The movie is void of humor (at least good humor). The attempts at humor are not so much funny and 100 % Lucas (and the prequels let you know how that works out).

At the end of the day, the only two reasons to see this movie are Ford and the action sequences

6/10.

Oh, plus the nuclear blast was just so stupid and not even necessary. It added nothing to the plot. It was unneeded, completely unrealistic (and to say that in a movie about an alien skeleton with super powers is saying something). I mean, it was the kind of unrealistic that just makes you roll your eyes. It was just ridiculous.

[luke1234]

what about the refference to young indy? cause i bloody loved that

haha oh yeah that was great

[Cagefighterkip]

Raiders (10)
Last Crusade (9)
Crystal Skull (8.5)
Temple of Doom (8)

i loved it, it was a blast (nuclear pun intended) and the passing of the torch (but not really was classic :)

[luke1234]

Anyhow, my thoughts:

6 out of 10. The question for me with this movie has always been, will Spielberg save Lucas' legacy or will Lucas drag Spielberg down to his level (if only for one movie, because lets face it, every movie Spielberg makes from this point on can be crap and he will still go down as one of the greatest ever)? Sadly it is the latter.

This movie is mediocrity defined. The plot is horrible (Indy should be fantasy, not sci-fi. This is a full on sci-fi movie). The climax is ultimately unsatisfying and the rest of the plot just seems like filler between various moments spent in Commie captivity. Plus the ending is the cheesiest thing I have ever seen on film.

The character development is horribly done. After the reveal about Mutt, for example, they all just sort of shrug it off after the initial argument. Same with the whole double agent thing. They are just all willing to accept it with absolutely no question despite the fact he tried to kill them numerous times and is actively plundering the ruins right in front of them while the others are in mortal danger.

The movie is void of humor (at least good humor). The attempts at humor are not so much funny and 100 % Lucas (and the prequels let you know how that works out).

At the end of the day, the only two reasons to see this movie are Ford and the action sequences

6/10.

i agree with most of the things you said and i also gave it a 6/10

[Lord Valumart]

haha oh yeah that was great

none of my mates beleived me so i had to look for that diary thing thats out and prove it to them...

i thought it was nice we finaly got young indy fully cannoised:up:

[luke1234]

none of my mates beleived me so i had to look for that diary thing thats out and prove it to them...

i thought it was nice we finaly got young indy fully cannoised:up:

yeah i agree that was a very nice touch

[Jack O Lantern]

Anyhow, my thoughts:
Same with the whole double agent thing. They are just all willing to accept it with absolutely no question despite the fact he tried to kill them numerous times and is actively plundering the ruins right in front of them while the others are in mortal danger.


Indy and Winston had fought togther in WW2 and were friends for a decade. To Indy the double agent thing was probably far more likley than him being a turn coat.

[luke1234]

so did Koepp right the crystal skull story or was it Lucas? i know Koepp did the script but did he do the overall story as well?

[Matt]

Indy and Winston had fought togther in WW2 and were friends for a decade. To Indy the double agent thing was probably far more likley than him being a turn coat.

Despite the fact that his actions while he was with them contradicted his statements? It just seemed to abrupt. Mutt and Marion were as accepting as Indy. No one showed any sign of questioning him.

[Jack O Lantern]

Despite the fact that his actions while he was with them contradicted his statements?

How so? Being greedy does not a communist make?


It just seemed to abrupt. Mutt and Marion were as accepting as Indy. No one showed any sign of questioning him.

They were just as accepting because they would never doubt Indiana Jones.

[Matt]

How so? Being greedy does not a communist make?


Being greedy while your friends are in mortal danger? Sorta does. Especially when the reason he gave for backstabbing everyone was that he wanted money.


They were just as accepting because they would never doubt Indiana Jones.

Now you're just being apologetic.

[War Party]

I loved the nuclear bomb scene. Got big laughs.

[Kaleb]

Anyhow, my thoughts:

6 out of 10. The question for me with this movie has always been, will Spielberg save Lucas' legacy or will Lucas drag Spielberg down to his level (if only for one movie, because lets face it, every movie Spielberg makes from this point on can be crap and he will still go down as one of the greatest ever)? Sadly it is the latter.

This movie is mediocrity defined. The plot is horrible (Indy should be fantasy, not sci-fi. This is a full on sci-fi movie). The climax is ultimately unsatisfying and the rest of the plot just seems like filler between various moments spent in Commie captivity. Plus the ending is the cheesiest thing I have ever seen on film.

The character development is horribly done. After the reveal about Mutt, for example, they all just sort of shrug it off after the initial argument. Same with the whole double agent thing. They are just all willing to accept it with absolutely no question despite the fact he tried to kill them numerous times and is actively plundering the ruins right in front of them while the others are in mortal danger.

The movie is void of humor (at least good humor). The attempts at humor are not so much funny and 100 % Lucas (and the prequels let you know how that works out).

At the end of the day, the only two reasons to see this movie are Ford and the action sequences

6/10.

Oh, plus the nuclear blast was just so stupid and not even necessary. It added nothing to the plot. It was unneeded, completely unrealistic (and to say that in a movie about an alien skeleton with super powers is saying something). I mean, it was the kind of unrealistic that just makes you roll your eyes. It was just ridiculous.



good review, pretty much summed up how I felt

[Matt]

I loved the nuclear bomb scene. Got big laughs.

Really? I thought it was entirely corny and unneccessary. The parts leading up to it were funny but the second he got in the refridgerator it got ridiculous.

[War Party]

Really? I thought it was entirely corny and unneccessary. The parts leading up to it were funny but the second he got in the refridgerator it got ridiculous.

Yeah, the people in my theater were really digging the movie. It was the first time ever people clapped after a movie that I attended. Never witnessed it before.

[luke1234]

Really? I thought it was entirely corny and unneccessary. The parts leading up to it were funny but the second he got in the refridgerator it got ridiculous.

it was really funny when he was like "this is not good" but then when he got in the refrigirator im like u got to be kiddin me, i though he was gonna find a military shelter or something like that

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The movie is void of humor (at least good humor). The attempts at humor are not so much funny and 100 % Lucas (and the prequels let you know how that works out).Yes, who could forget this quote from the making of Phantom Menace:

"Jar Jar is the funniest character we've ever had in a Star Wars movie."
- George Lucas

Han Solo saying "We're all fine here. How are you?" was funnier than all of the farting, burping, slipping in poo and slobbery tongue-wagging in TPM. :o

[War Party]

it was really funny when he was like "this is not good" but then when he got in the refrigirator im like u got to be kiddin me, i though he was gonna find a military shelter or something like that

The refrigerator did have lead in it...I know, I know, it's ridiculous, but I loved that scene.

[Lord Valumart]

Yes, who could forget this quote from the making of Phantom Menace:

"Jar Jar is the funniest character we've ever had in a Star Wars movie."
- George Lucas

Han Solo saying "We're all fine here. How are you?" was funnier than all of the farting, burping, slipping in poo and slobbery tongue-wagging in TPM. :o

maybes he meant to say retarded:huh:

the guy was walking around on the indy 4 set with a "han short first" tshirt on so he's clearly mental...

[luke1234]

The refrigerator did have lead in it...I know, I know, it's ridiculous, but I loved that scene.

hahha its cool, i just dont understand how when he got out of the refrigerator he wasn't affected by the radiation

oh and did anyone else see the skull reference in the mushroom cloud?

[Figs]

Yes, who could forget this quote from the making of Phantom Menace:

"Jar Jar is the funniest character we've ever had in a Star Wars movie."
- George Lucas

Han Solo saying "We're all fine here. How are you?" was funnier than all of the farting, burping, slipping in poo and slobbery tongue-wagging in TPM. :o


Agreed.


I'm seeing this after work and hopefully I'll enjoy it.

So are the general opinions saying they dropped the ball on this one?

[War Party]

hahha its cool, i just dont understand how when he got out of the refrigerator he wasn't affected by the radiation

oh and did anyone else see the skull reference in the mushroom cloud?

Yeah, I was also wondering why after getting out of the refrigerator, he wasn't affected. But they did give him a shower, so I guess that helped. I don't know. That scene was just so insane that I loved it.

[War Party]

Agreed.


I'm seeing this after work and hopefully I'll enjoy it.

So are the general opinions saying they dropped the ball on this one?

I don't think that's the general opinion. The opinion on this film seems so mixed that you have to see it for yourself to find out where you fall.

[luke1234]

Agreed.


I'm seeing this after work and hopefully I'll enjoy it.

So are the general opinions saying they dropped the ball on this one?

na on imdb its iin the top 250 movies haha, i just think people were expecting more and just got an ordianry indiana jones movie with some flaws

[Lord Valumart]

So are the general opinions saying they dropped the ball on this one?

i loved it...it was worth the £6 i paid for it and i'd gladly had over money time and time again to see it more. it was the movie i'd wanted since i was 7 and i finaly got it...it was just awesome...so awesome...go see it:up:

[Figs]

I can't wait to see it tonight.

I think with a lot of the people giving it negatives...it's a typical case of setting your expectations too high.

[Immortalfire]

Yes, who could forget this quote from the making of Phantom Menace:

"Jar Jar is the funniest character we've ever had in a Star Wars movie."
- George Lucas

Han Solo saying "We're all fine here. How are you?" was funnier than all of the farting, burping, slipping in poo and slobbery tongue-wagging in TPM. :o

Lucas will burn in hell.

[Fanticon]

The movie was great! Everything worked except for these...major or minor complaints depending on how you'll take 'em...and I think you'll take them just as badly as I did and my midnight audience.

*SPOILER ALERT*

Gopher, Gophers, Refrigerator, Gopher, and monkeys....in that order. :cool:

Did it ruin the movie? No...but why was I thinking about it from the time I left the theater...and the moment I woke up? Because I just didn't get it. :csad: And I don't understand why they did it.

[Drizzle]

I can't even fathom the fact that it's in the imdb top 250 (for now) or even the fact that some of you are voting this as a 10. The vine swinging scene alone keeps it from being a 10.

[War Party]

I can't even fathom the fact that it's in the imdb top 250 (for now) or even the fact that some of you are voting this as a 10. The vine swinging scene alone keeps it from being a 10.

Seriously, if most people were rating it as a film and taking all aspects of film making into consideration, it would be very rare that film will be a perfect 10 or even earning a 1. So yes, in my opinion, this movie ain't a 10 or a 1. I gave it a 7, but bumped it to a 8 because I had a blast watching it.

[GhostPoet]

I can't even fathom the fact that it's in the imdb top 250 (for now) or even the fact that some of you are voting this as a 10. The vine swinging scene alone keeps it from being a 10.


I gave it a 9...which is what it deserves.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm seeing this after work and hopefully I'll enjoy it.

So are the general opinions saying they dropped the ball on this one?
I've read a ton of good reviews in newspapers and online, and noticed quite a few that said it was a success and that they did not drop the ball.
It's only been here that I've seen so much derision and statements like, "This wasn't an Indiana Jones film", so I think it's probably fanboy finickiness.

But then, Harry Knowles said it made him tremble and weep for joy and that it was better than sex or meeting Jesus, so...

[Drizzle]

I gave it a 7. There was definitely a lot more cool stuff than bad stuff in the movie.

And did anyone else love the fact that we got pretty much all the music cues from the first three movies? I loved hearing the Ark theme and the father/son theme from "Last Crusade" a couple of times.

[echostation]

just caught the film...

this is the best they could come up with after what... 20 ****ing years??

this is like the Superman Returns of the ****in franchise... Lucas... just trip up on a rock and die already please

[Jick09]

so......is it good?
was it worth the wait?
or would be better if they had let the franchise alone the way it was?
'cause I don't see many good reviews.
if it's bad at the box office...the first thing I'll say is "I told you"

[Dr. MIX]

On an unrelated note; was The Dark Knight trailer attached to this?

[Matt Murdock]

I loved this movie. I gave it an 8.

People are clearly expecting a second coming of a glorious franchise, but what they fail to realize is that everyone is older, more experienced, and far more cautious than they would have been in any of the previous films.

There was an incredible 'B-Movie' feel to this, which is exactly what I was hoping for, and expecting.

I liked it, and I'm not going to ***** about the flaws.

[War Party]

so......is it good?
was it worth the wait?
or would be better if they had let the franchise alone the way it was?
'cause I don't see many good reviews.
if it's bad at the box office...the first thing I'll say is "I told you"

Check rottentomatoes.com. It's got a 80% fresh rating. This is the only site I visit where the reviews are so mixed.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm not going to ***** about the flaws.You have to. You're on the internet. :huh:

[GhostPoet]

so......is it good?
was it worth the wait?
or would be better if they had let the franchise alone the way it was?
'cause I don't see many good reviews.
if it's bad at the box office...the first thing I'll say is "I told you"

Of course it was good. Loved it!

[Rezzo]

One more hour and my adventure will begin. :woot:

[Lord Valumart]

On an unrelated note; was The Dark Knight trailer attached to this?

thankfuly not to mine:up:

[Lord Valumart]

You have to. You're on the internet. :huh:

he could defend everything that was good about it to his dying day :huh:

[Drizzle]

On an unrelated note; was The Dark Knight trailer attached to this?
It was attached to mine.
thankfuly not to mine:up:
What do you mean by that?

[Lord Valumart]

What do you mean by that?

i mean i didn;t have to suffer to get the indiana jones goodness:huh:

[Matt Murdock]

You have to. You're on the internet. :huh:

:lmao:

I suppose that's a true point of view... but I'm an Indy fan, and I wasn't expecting anything perfect.

[Drizzle]

i mean i didn;t have to suffer to get the indiana jones goodness:huh:
Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

[Lord Valumart]

Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

i just had eagle eye and wanted trailers...the rest were for cars and orange mobile:huh:

[War Party]

Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

Benjamin Button is going to a fantastic film. But I can see why people may not be into it. Fincher is one of my favorite director's, so I'm very excited for it.

[SpideyLad]

i just had eagle eye and wanted trailers...the rest were for cars and orange mobile:huh:

I had TDK, Wall-E, The Mummy 3 (:woot::woot::woot:), Prince Caspian, Kung Fu Panda, and Eagle Eye....And one of those Orange pitch adverts

[chaseter]

Not surprised that once again...people on here give a movie with so much to offer, even if they were let down, 1's and 2's. That is why I never listen to most people on here because they are so quick to give a movie they liked a 10/10 or a movie they thought could have been better a 1/10. Come on, grow up and actually review a movie instead of being a little attention hungry kid by putting: "I hated this movie: 1/10."

[Rocker22]

Ford on Conan last night was golden.

[terry78]

Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

I heard the Benjamin Button trailer was pretty good. You didn't care for it?

[chaseter]

Ford on Conan last night was golden.
HAHA yea he was...acting like a pissed off old man:woot:

[Matt]

Check rottentomatoes.com. It's got a 80% fresh rating. This is the only site I visit where the reviews are so mixed.

This movie is critic proof. Lucas and Spielberg are two of the most powerful men in Hollywood. Very few critics will have the balls to cross them as it will guarantee they can kiss goodbye any chance at advanced screenings to any of the high profile future movies they make.

[Matt]

HAHA yea he was...acting like a pissed off old man:woot:

That's how he always acts on Conan and that is why every interview Conan does with him is golden. :up:

[War Party]

This movie is critic proof. Lucas and Spielberg are two of the most powerful men in Hollywood. Very few critics will have the balls to cross them as it will guarantee they can kiss goodbye any chance at advanced screenings to any of the high profile future movies they make.

I was just answering the guy's question. He said he hasn't seen many good reviews, so I pointed it to him where they were. But I always found RT to be ********. So he can interpret the rating how he wants.

[Fanticon]

Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

same here. None of the previews we got were anygood...not even Eagle Eye.

[GhostPoet]

I keep hearing how there are not very many good reviews...just most of the sites i've visited i've seen a vast majority of critics and users giving it a great score......so confused.

[Bim]

so......is it good?
was it worth the wait?
or would be better if they had let the franchise alone the way it was?
'cause I don't see many good reviews.
if it's bad at the box office...the first thing I'll say is "I told you"
Personally, i think it fits with the previous ones, i do think it's good and was worth the wait just to see Indy again :yay:

Matt: i disagree... i think critics would gladly bash anything Lucas does (same as certain fans :hehe:), so i dont consider it critic proof at all.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

This movie is critic proof. Lucas and Spielberg are two of the most powerful men in Hollywood. Very few critics will have the balls to cross them as it will guarantee they can kiss goodbye any chance at advanced screenings to any of the high profile future movies they make.Loosen your tin foil hat, Matt.
Critics savaged and shredded the Star Wars prequels. Amistad was weaker than Schindler's List and critics were happy to say so. They weren't kind to A.I., they crapped all over Howard the Duck...I don't even have time to get into the Spielberg projects, he produced, that they talked smack about.
Pauline Kael dismissed all of the Star Wars movies and George responded by naming the bad guy in "Willow" "General Kael"...showing an obvious sense of humor about it, which he has talked at length about...in his words "The Star Wars movies have always gotten bad reviews."

I do not believe most critics are afraid to lambaste a crappy movie just because they want to see the next Spielberg/Lucas movie early. :whatever:

[Octoberist]

Well I had to suffer through those god-awful "Australia" and "Benjamin Button" trailers.

HOw are they God awful? all of my friends were fascinated by Benjamin Button..

but i guess you're okay with Kung Fu Panda?

[GhostPoet]

WOOT!!! Kung Fu Panda!! :)

[chaseter]

I keep hearing how there are not very many good reviews...just most of the sites i've visited i've seen a vast majority of critics and users giving it a great score......so confused.
I have a few critics that I pay close attention to and see where they stand on movies. It is always good to find a couple of critics that agree with your taste in movies and follow suite to their reviews. On here, it is such a fickle bunch of fans that either love or hate movies. Sure there are some people on here that actually review movies and give an unbiased report but they are few and far between.

I love the Indy franchise to I was going to see this movie regardless but on movies that I am iffy with to begin with (ie Speed Racer), I choose whether or not to see it from the help of my chosen critics. Some critics are idiots or bigots and some actually do a good job.

[GhostPoet]

I have a game magazine I trust for game reviews.
But I haven't really found any movie critics that I could call "trusted" for my tastes.

Unless I can find a critic out there that likes Speed Racer AND Iron Man both. =)

[Hypestyle]

the American Premiere in new york city...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/21/bts.indiana.jones/

[chaseter]

Loosen your tin foil hat, Matt.
Critics savaged and shredded the Star Wars prequels. Amistad was weaker than Schindler's List and critics were happy to say so. They weren't kind to A.I., they crapped all over Howard the Duck...I don't even have time to get into the Spielberg projects, he produced, that they talked smack about.
Pauline Kael dismissed all of the Star Wars movies and George responded by naming the bad guy in "Willow" "General Kael"...showing an obvious sense of humor about it, which he has talked at length about...in his words "The Star Wars movies have always gotten bad reviews."

I do not believe most critics are afraid to lambaste a crappy movie just because they want to see the next Spielberg/Lucas movie early. :whatever:
Darn...you beat me to it:cmad::woot:

I remember the a good portion of critics bashing episodes 1 and 2.

[War Party]

Yeah, I got three critics that I usually agree with and those are the only three who's opinions I care about. And I definitely agree with you Chaseter about how some people review movies on these boards. There's seriously about 8 posters here that I enjoy reading reviews from.

[Octoberist]

in the long run, critics don't matter. just look at Fight Club and Blade Runner when they first came out.

as much as I thought Kingdom of the KS was 'okay', I'll need to see it again to see if I reallly like it nor not.

[Octoberist]

Darn...you beat me to it:cmad::woot:

I remember the a good portion of critics bashing episodes 1 and 2.

however, episode 1 deserved the criticisms for the most part..

[Bim]

WOOT!!! Kung Fu Panda!! :)
I got Kung Fu Panda too, and some other one i cant even remember ... i just wanted Indy to start to be honest :hehe:

[chaseter]

however, episode 1 deserved the criticisms for the most part..
Because it sucked and so did 2:o Episode 3 to me was pretty good but didn't live up to 4 or 5.

But that is a problem most of us have. We view Star Wars 4 as a masterpiece. Why? Because it was revolutionary for its time, even if we didn't grow up with it. Same goes for Indiana Jones and the Raiders. That movie was so revolutionary, quick, witty, and just glorious so of course we automatically judge every subsequent film on that...even when the times change. I will agree that George is on a whorish downfall but we need to view this movie as a progressive franchise, not as a sequel to Raiders.

[Octoberist]

Because it sucked and so did 2:o Episode 3 to me was pretty good but didn't live up to 4 or 5.

But that is a problem most of us have. We view Star Wars 4 as a masterpiece. Why? Because it was revolutionary for its time, even if we didn't grow up with it. Same goes for Indiana Jones and the Raiders. That movie was so revolutionary, quick, witty, and just glorious so of course we automatically judge every subsequent film on that...even when the times change. I will agree that George is on a whorish downfall but we need to view this movie as a progressive franchise, not as a sequel to Raiders.

Yeah that's true.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

however, episode 1 deserved the criticisms for the most part..Not the point. Matt said this movie also deserves the criticism but it's getting good reviews because reviewers won't be honest about how bad it is because then George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg will read their bad reviews and take their names off of the lists of critics who get to view future Lucas or Spielberg movies in advance. It's silly.
Also, because, there are lots of other powerful figures in Hollywood, who make movies that get really bad reviews. According to his logic, any high profile summer "blockbuster" made by powerful people will get good reviews and that hasn't been the case at all.

[Bim]

I also think that it's not the same watching these movies as a kid when ur not as picky, than watching it as a critical adult. Like the PT for SW, i think that the sentimental memories from childhood can prevent from enjoying the newer movies to some degree, just because our perspective is different and we have certain expectations that can be very difficult to live up to :yay:

[Octoberist]

Not the point. Matt said this movie also deserves the criticism but it's getting good reviews because reviewers won't be honest about how bad it is because then George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg will read their bad reviews and take their names off of the lists of critics who get to view future Lucas or Spielberg movies in advance. It's silly.
Also, because, there are lots of other powerful figures in Hollywood, who make movies that get really bad reviews. According to his logic, any high profile summer "blockbuster" made by powerful people will get good reviews and that hasn't been the case at all.



I don't know if there's an obligation to like a movie or not. It depends on the person. I've noticed that there perhaps were...some for Spider-Man 3. The thing is that i don't have proof but it's just a feeling. However, it could be a geniune liking for that movie

Here, I don't know if people are forcing themselves to write a good review or not. It's hard to say, in these cynical times.

[Drizzle]

I heard the Benjamin Button trailer was pretty good. You didn't care for it?
Not much. I just don't think a movie that odd should be made if Tim Burton isn't directing it.

[Octoberist]

Not much. I just don't think a movie that odd should be made if Tim Burton isn't directing it.

but this David Fincher, the best darn director out there!! And it looks good - I mean, why is Tim Burton the only one who can direct 'weird' movies? it's open to anybody, if it's good.

[The Guardian]

I JUST GOT BACK FROM SEEING IT FOR THE SECOND TIME AND I STILL LOVED IT!!! I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE LITTLE NUANCES AND DETAILS OF THE STORY MUCH BETTER THIS TIME AROUND SINCE THE FIRST VIEWING IS BASICLY YOU MESMERIZED BY THE EXPERIENCE!!! THERE ARE A FEW SILLY MOMENTS BUT THOSE ARE IN ALL THE MOVIES, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALLOT OF FUN AND I STILL GIVE IT A 10/10!!!:indy::up:

[Drizzle]

but this David Fincher, the best darn director out there!! And it looks good - I mean, why is Tim Burton the only one who can direct 'weird' movies? it's open to anybody, if it's good.
Because Tim Burton is a weird guy by nature, so he tends to do weird movies better. While I don't think Fincher is the best director out there, "Se7en" and "Fight Club" were good. But this just seems too fantastical for him.

[War Party]

If you think Benjamin Button is weird, I can't wait to see what he does with "Black Hole."

[Dr. Watson]

Why is everyone *****ing about Lucas and how he screwed up this film? Even if you didn't like it, Lucas did not write or direct it. From the interviews it seems like Speilberg was actually fairly resistant to Lucas impeding on his vision. And Speilberg has no aversion to using CGI himself. AI, Jurassic Park I and II, War of the Worlds...all featured heavy use of CGI.

I'm no fan of Lucas. But if you hated this, lay blame on Spielberg and David Koepp who wrote it. Koepp's got quite a few "cheesy" credits to his name so it doesn't suprise me that some don't like the humour.

[Drizzle]

Why is everyone *****ing about Lucas and how he screwed up this film? Even if you didn't like it, Lucas did not write or direct it.

Because of the credit "Story by George Lucas".

[turtlefocker]

what about the refference to young indy? cause i bloody loved that

What was it? (haven't seen movie yet... never saw Young Indy though so I'll probably miss it.)

I loved this movie. I gave it an 8.

People are clearly expecting a second coming of a glorious franchise, but what they fail to realize is that everyone is older, more experienced, and far more cautious than they would have been in any of the previous films.

There was an incredible 'B-Movie' feel to this, which is exactly what I was hoping for, and expecting.

I liked it, and I'm not going to ***** about the flaws.

Sounds Good


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Review from the Spill Crew:

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[Gamma Ray]

Lucas is the one who convinced everyone to go with the stupid alien plot.

Aliens have nothing to do with archeology. I'm sure there are many more Mayan artifacts that could be dealt with and made interesting. The ark and the grail are widely recognized and don't stretch the boundaries of believability so much. The sankara stones were a big stretch and the movie wouldn't have been good if not for the chemistry and the rest of the story. The skull was a HUGE stretch and the movie had a horrible story which made it an overall disaster of a movie.

Another problem I had with the story is that the hero came out exactly the same after the "adventure". Nothing was gained, nothing lost. That makes for an unfulfilling story, especially if everything in between sucks.


EDIT: I'd go so far as to say the only good parts were the homages (the ark, Henry I, Marion, etc.)

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Why is everyone *****ing about Lucas and how he screwed up this film? You must not have been following the production, because they kept arriving at drafts for a script which people were happy with, and George was the one who kept vetoing them (which made people nervous after his writing on the SW prequels).

Next, the story is by George Lucas and Jeff Nathanson.
To suggest that George isn't responsible is plain wrong. :huh:



It has taken a long time to get a story that everyone - specifically Lucas (whose original idea Indy was), Spielberg and Ford - could agree on. The first script was written in the early 1990s and was called Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars. Lucas’s idea was that, as the first three films had replicated the movie serials of the 1930s and 1940s, with their emphasis on Nazis as villains, the fourth should take its ideas from the serials of the 1950s, when there was much more emphasis on space and aliens. But Ford didn’t like it.
Over the years, five other writers wrote treatments or scripts, the closest to getting made being one by Frank Darabont (who wrote The Shawshank Redemption). It was Darabont who brought back Marion Ravenwood, among other story elements that have remained in the movie. Spielberg loved the script, but Lucas, who has power of veto over such things, didn’t like the story, much to Darabont’s fury. He called Lucas “insane” for rejecting it and provoked much internet ire against Lucas, who is almost universally derided for the incredibly clunky scripts he wrote for the recent Star Wars movies. In the end, the writer to get the script credit on the film was David Koepp, who had co-written Spielberg’s 2005 film War of the Worlds. Koepp put the emphasis on what Lucas was interested in,


lol, Darabont said he's "insane".

[Dr. Watson]

Because of the credit "Story by George Lucas".

He also came up for the story's of Raiders, Temple, Crusade, and the three original Star Wars. As far as I can tell those are pretty popular and well liked movies in these parts and with the general audience.

Lucas can have very good ideas for stories. He can even direct decently on occasion (Star Wars: ANH, and American Grafitti were both very good). I think he just falls apart when he gets to actually writing dialogue (if you watch the star wars documentary in the DVD set, even Ford and the other principal actors think this, saying that some of the lines in ANH were too difficult). That's why IMO the prequels were so bad. But in terms of the actual screenplay and direction of KotCS, the blame for any failure should mostly go to Spielberg and Koepp.

[Visceral]

Indy 4.

****ing fantastic, its great fun just like all the other indy films. go see it I think that this is the best movie of the year so far.

as i walked out i heard people nitpicking saying that the film was too far out there and that vine swinging part was too much. But lets be honest, it indiana ****ing jones, so who cares the film doesn't have to be perfect and its already know that it will be out there, so whats the big deal.

9/10

[Gamma Ray]

It's widely known that vintage Lucas is not the same Lucas we have today.

[chaseter]

Lucas is the one who convinced everyone to go with the stupid alien plot.

Aliens have nothing to do with archeology. I'm sure there are many more Mayan artifacts that could be dealt with and made interesting. The ark and the grail are widely recognized and don't stretch the boundaries of believability so much. The sankara stones were a big stretch and the movie wouldn't have been good if not for the chemistry and the rest of the story. The skull was a HUGE stretch and the movie had a horrible story which made it an overall disaster of a movie.

Another problem I had with the story is that the hero came out exactly the same after the "adventure". Nothing was gained, nothing lost. That makes for an unfulfilling story, especially if everything in between sucks.


EDIT: I'd go so far as to say the only good parts were the homages (the ark, Henry I, Marion, etc.)
Bone up on the Crystal Skulls if you want to attack the plot and it to some is just as fantastic of a plot device as the Ark, burning stones, and the Holy Grail.

[War Party]

Bone up on the Crystal Skulls if you want to attack the plot and it to some is just as fantastic of a plot device as the Ark, burning stones, and the Holy Grail.

The Crystal Skulls are real!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/slapshot8/19-2.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

He also came up for the story's of Raiders, Temple, Crusade, and the three original Star Wars. As far as I can tell those are pretty popular and well liked movies in these parts and with the general audience.

Lucas can have very good ideas for stories. He can even direct decently on occasion (Star Wars: ANH, and American Grafitti were both very good). I think he just falls apart when he gets to actually writing dialogue (if you watch the star wars documentary in the DVD set, even Ford and the other principal actors think this, saying that some of the lines in ANH were too difficult). That's why IMO the prequels were so bad. But in terms of the actual screenplay and direction of KotCS, the blame for any failure should mostly go to Spielberg and Koepp.

He only came up with the concept of an American adventurer named Indiana Jones. Im pretty sure that Spielberg and Lucas have always had the same input when it came to the story and Ford came him later when he became such an integral part. i dont see why Spielberg and Koepp should be blames when basically all parties involved have been overly optimistic at every attempt to restart the franchise except Lucas.

[Bim]

I actually found the interdimensional alien gods twist fun, cause since i noticed they were in 'Area 51', i was scared that it would be ET part 2 :oldrazz: but i liked how that played out :yay:

[chaseter]

The Crystal Skulls are real!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/slapshot8/19-2.jpg
Yea I know...there were suppose to be 13 skulls made by the Mayans which were alien technology in hopes for us to find them and prevent the end of the world in 2012.

[Shifty]

The monkeys and the alien finale just didn't work. I really enjoyed the first half of the film. While I knew about the opening sequence and wasn't really excited about what I heard, I enjoyed it. The film really started to fall apart when they met up with the Russians in the jungle. It had the Marion reunion but that's when things started slipping. After the army ants sceneit just wasn't fun.

I watched Raiders four weeks ago, Doom on Friday and Last Crusade last night. Unfortunately this film has knocked of Temple of Doom as the poorest Indiana Jones film. It just wasn't as fun from start to finish as the previous three. Sure it had certain standards to meet but not all were met. Its still good and I say go see it, its still a movie that should be seen on the big screen but the script just wasn't working at the end. The CGI was sloppy as well.

The aliens in Close Encounters of the Third Kind looked better and that was 30 years ago!

The ending fit right, though a Sallah cameo should've happened.

Indiana: "This is intolerable!" I really liked that line, as Henry Sr. said that 3x in Last Crusade.

7/10

Bring on The Dark Knight!

Now if Indiana Jones 5 ever happens, lets hope they lock Lucas up and get a script. Speilberg rarely misteps.

[Gamma Ray]

For me, this movie lacked heart. The stakes didn't seem high enough and there was barely a serious moment in the entire thing. Maybe it was because I found the film entirely unbelievable. Nothing was connected, and everything seemed to just happen to the cast. I feel like I'm not that hard to please but this movie should have been a video game.

[War Party]

Yea I know...there were suppose to be 13 skulls made by the Mayans which were alien technology in hopes for us to find them and prevent the end of the world in 2012.

I know you know. I was just supplying evidence to your post.

[Spider-Bat]

I was sad at first to see Indy so much older. It's just weird to see one of my heroes like that, you just think of him always looking like he did in Raiders.

Mutt was cool. I was very happy with him.

Good to see Marion back, I wish Salla had been at the wedding.

Very sad about Marcus and Indy's Father.

I like it better when Indy's deling with religous or magic artifacts.

But it was still great!

They can do a son of Indiana movie next kind of but it has to be good and Indy still in it of course, but Mutt can handle most of the action.

I love ya' Indy!:indy: 3 stars!!!

[Dr. Watson]

He only came up with the concept of an American adventurer named Indiana Jones. Im pretty sure that Spielberg and Lucas have always had the same input when it came to the story and Ford came him later when he became such an integral part. i dont see why Spielberg and Koepp should be blames when basically all parties involved have been overly optimistic at every attempt to restart the franchise except Lucas.

I don't think they should take all the blame. Yet I find it funny that while a lot of people can't stop bad mouthing Lucas, not a bad word has been said about what Spielberg or Koepp might have contributed to thier dislike. It makes me think that some of the people who didn't like the film (and this isn't directed at anyone in particular) don't because of a focus on hating Lucas and what he has done to another beloved franchise.

[chaseter]

I know you know. I was just supplying evidence to your post.
Oh why thanks:cwink:

It is interesting that they do exist and we have yet to find them all.

[Bim]

Dr. Watson: indeed, there's just a lot of Lucas hate out there.

Well since i have the day off from work, i'm gonna get ready and go watch this movie again :hehe: see u all later! :woot:

[Immortalfire]

They can do a son of Indiana movie next kind of but it has to be good and Indy still in it of course, but Mutt can handle most of the action.


This statement reminds me of the brainless teen girls I heard when leaving Superman Returns, "Oooh..Clark can die a heroic death in a sequel, and Jason will grow up into the next Superman! :eek: :heart:"


I kid you not :down

[Gamma Ray]

Another thing I just remembered: Brody's statue head just falling off when crashed into. WTF? Totally dumb, totally forced like the rest of the movie.

[Spider-Bat]

It didn't feel like it had enough to it, it lacked a great villian like the last three. But I still love it. I'll see it again. It was just a fun adventure, but it needed more.

Although it had more to it than any other movie I've seen yet out of the blockbuster season. I thought it had more substance than Ironman that is for sure and not boring like Narnia 2.

I still love Lucas and Spielberg I don't care what anyone says.

It could have been worse, it could have been like that new crappy Mummy movie coming out.

It could have been a new director etc. and all crap. It still had heart I think.

I still love ya' Indy!!!

[protocida]

Best movie of the year!

10/10!

And i'm alredy imaginning how could ''Indiana Jones 5'' be. Maybe Indy, Marion, Mutt and Ox searching for the Spear of Destiny?

[RickO'Connell]

It looks like Skulls got one of those "Review" spots

http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/tvspots/IJ_tvs14_RideReview_480p.mov

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Good to see Marion back, I wish Salla had been at the wedding.Oh nice. :whatever:
It doesn't say that this is a spoiler thread anywhere.
I was just wondering yesterday if they'd go cheezy and have them get married or stay realistic and have him be a loner forever.
Great.

[Shifty]

It's too late. The movie is already a hit. My theater was packed and I'm sure everyone else's was as well.

I was actually surprised at the lack of turnout for my theatre. There was a 1205pm, and two 1230pms. They had to combine the two 1230s due to low ticket sales. It was pretty bad, maybe 35 people who bought tickets for the two 1230 showings. All the other theatres in the city don't play until 330pm or later. Now it is a Thursday and in the afternoon but I got there early expecting somewhat of a rush for seats. Spider-Man 3 had a bigger turnout on a Friday at the same theatre last year. Audiences will see it but I've never seen anything like that for an opening day film, especially for a franchise. But I did notice there were more older pepole one usually sees at a movie theatre.

The script was cobbled together from the various scripts written over the last 19 years. David Koepp just got the credit, the WGA has many rules about who gets credit for script/stories. But he's likely to have developed that lame ending.

With the very little CGI I just don't understand how they couldn't do a better job. The army ants worked but that's pretty much it.

[War Party]

I don't know, my theater had three midnight showings last night and all were sold out.

[turtlefocker]

what about the refference to young indy? cause i bloody loved that

What was it? (haven't seen movie yet... never saw Young Indy though so I'll probably miss it.)
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[turtlefocker]

what about the refference to young indy? cause i bloody loved that

What was it? (haven't seen movie yet... never saw Young Indy though so I'll probably miss it.)
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[Kakihara]

This was by far the biggest dissapointment for me this year. Hell, Star Wars didn't even reach the depths of goofiness Indy did in this one movie. At least the trailers were nice...

[cerealkiller182]

But its still a midnight showing. I dont really careto go to the movies at midnight.