Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Immortalfire]

Best movie of the year!

10/10!

And i'm alredy imaginning how could ''Indiana Jones 5'' be. Maybe Indy, Marion, Mutt and Ox searching for the Spear of Destiny?

What is the Spear of Destiny? :huh:

[chaseter]

What is the Spear of Destiny? :huh:
The Spear that pierced Jesus Chirst on the cross. It was in Constantine.

[chaseter]

This was by far the biggest dissapointment for me this year. Hell, Star Wars didn't even reach the depths of goofiness Indy did in this one movie. At least the trailers were nice...
Yea I doubt that anything in this movie compares to Jar Jar or fumbling Stoogesk robots.

[cerealkiller182]

What is the Spear of Destiny? :huh:

The spear that pierced Christ's side which was the killing blow during the cruxifiction.

Its said to give whoever holds it the power to be immortal as well asthe army they may be leading. The popular myth usually incorporates great world conquers as past holders

[Watson]

If they did do another one, I'd love to see them go back to medieval legend. Spear of Destiny would be interesting. Or maybe they could go after Excalibur since that legend already has so much that could be incorporated into a great movie.

[Kakihara]

Yea I doubt that anything in this movie compares to Jar Jar or fumbling Stoogesk robots.

Indy surviving an atomic bomb in a fridge, retarded badly done cgi ants, Mutt's tarzan scene, ridiculous cg prarie dogs, that horrendous waterfall scene, and a laughable flying saucer coming out of a Mayan temple-all of that was really painful. I'll give it on par with Episode I for suckage.

[War Party]

There was lead in that frig. Makes perfect sense.

[Isildur´s Heir]

I just saw it and liked it a lot.

The only real problem in my opinion, and a damn big one, is that the movie is a bit outdated, scenes like the monkeys, ants and surviving a nuclear blast inside a refrigerator, just don´t work well in this day and age.
Besides that, i really liked it.
Sure it wasn´t Raiders or Crusade (hell, it´s not even Doom), but works great, and it was nice to see that Ford still got it.
It´s a shame Indy doesn´t fight the nazi, but it´s a logical step, he got old, he can´t be in the WW2 forever.

I didn´t liked the casting of Shia for Indy´s son.
I have nothing against the guy, but i just can´t picture him as Indiana Jones II, i just can´t.
And the name Mutt sucked.

All in all, i give it a 7

[chaseter]

Indy surviving an atomic bomb in a fridge, retarded badly done cgi ants, Mutt's tarzan scene, ridiculous cg prarie dogs, that horrendous waterfall scene, and a laughable flying saucer coming out of a Mayan temple-all of that was really painful. I'll give it on par with Episode I for suckage.
To each his own I guess but I don't know of anyone that loved Jar Jar Binks:o. If the CGI is unbearable, then I will be a tad dissapointed but as for lead in the fridge, swinging, and a UFO are all on par with the quirky past Indy's as they are all fanatical adventures. A guy pulling hearts out, the Ark sucking the souls out of the Nazi's, and a cup with water that heals wounds and gives immortality...if a UFO is out of par with those:whatever:

And some people need to understand that this movie is an ode to the past Indies as this is the way they would have done the film if it were 3 years after Crusade. Listen to the punching noises...and supposedly the animals were a bit overexaggerated as they were in most films of that day.

[Shifty]

Indy surviving an atomic bomb in a fridge, retarded badly done cgi ants, Mutt's tarzan scene, ridiculous cg prarie dogs, that horrendous waterfall scene, and a laughable flying saucer coming out of a Mayan temple-all of that was really painful. I'll give it on par with Episode I for suckage.

The ants came off well, better than any other living thing.
The fridge worked, it had the sticker for the lead lined door. It was something else to see Indiana in 1950s suburbia.

[Secret Fawful]

I watched the movie, but none of the stuff that is bothering all of you bothered me, except for two things at the ending.

The alien at the end and the way the villainess died were all greatly concepted I thought, just badly executed. The alien should've stayed in silouette, and the saucer should've stayed hidden in all the debris. I think if they hadn't held back on the burning sockets death it would've been a bit better executed. The biggest thing I think that keeps this movie from being a classic is that it wasn't made 19 years ago. So we can't really look back and say, man, how cool was that stuff they did way back then? The biggest thing about the old movies is the special effects they did for the time. Today, it seems commonplace. with that said...8.5/10.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Is everyone aware that they went out of their way to make it outdated?

Spielberg decided early on that he wanted the film to have a distinctly old-fashioned feel. He and his cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, watched the three previous films so they could match their style, itself based on the cliffhanger Saturday-matinée serials of the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s. (Douglas Slocombe shot the first three Indy films.)

“Both Janusz and I had to swallow our pride,” Spielberg says. “Janusz had to approximate another cinematographer’s look, and I had to approximate this younger director’s look that I thought I had moved away from after almost two decades. To achieve this look, Spielberg deliberately used few computer-generated shots and employed much less fast cutting than most modern action movies feature.

[chaseter]

^Thank you Wilhelm...you said more than I did.

[Shifty]

John Williams had a rare misfire in the musical score. The best parts were old themes from the previous films. Nothing memorable or really enjoyable like in previous works done by Williams. That didn't help the film.

[Kakihara]

To each his own I guess but I don't know of anyone that loved Jar Jar Binks:o. If the CGI is unbearable, then I will be a tad dissapointed but as for lead in the fridge, swinging, and a UFO are all on par with the quirky past Indy's as they are all fanatical adventures. A guy pulling hearts out, the Ark sucking the souls out of the Nazi's, and a cup with water that heals wounds and gives immortality...if a UFO is out of par with those:whatever:

And some people need to understand that this movie is an ode to the past Indies as this is the way they would have done the film if it were 3 years after Crusade. Listen to the punching noises...and supposedly the animals were a bit overexaggerated as they were in most films of that day.

Don't get me wrong, I love the old Indy flicks, but this one just felt off, much like the SW prequels. Maybe the next one will be better.

[LegendaryCaleb]

I thought that If they had left out the alien bit in the storyline ,and say instead of if been an Alien mythos, they made it like a voodoo mythos, then it might have been good

i totally agree...i thought it was going voodoo style...which would have been fun for an indy film...but the aliens storyline was a huge wtf for me

[Shifty]

Is everyone aware that they went out of their way to make it outdated?

Well then this film will be enjoyable in 10 years from now for someone who thinks this came out in 1999.
See the movie yourself.
The problem is the things done with CGI could've done much better that it would have made the film better. The crappy CGI takes you out of the movie, where if this film came out in the late 1990s then it would be fine.

The previous Indys used the best tech available from ILM, so should have this. It looks like an Indy film inserted with bad CGI when it could've had great CGI that one couldn't even tell the difference from computer to fake. Or use prostetics or models or something that looks real and not phony.

[DieSmiling]

I just got back from a 2:30 show, and I have to say it was a bit disappointing. Overall I just didn't like the alien angle and while Ford was good, it was just sad to see him so old. There wasn't much spark and there were a few silly moments (the only one I really hated was the swinging monkeys with Mutt).

It was still fun, some good nostalgia and not a bad way to spend two hours... But it definitely wasn't as good as I was hoping.

[chaseter]

Another thing I just remembered: Brody's statue head just falling off when crashed into. WTF? Totally dumb, totally forced like the rest of the movie.
Like a WTF when Oddjob threw a shoe and it hit the statue's head and broke the neck?:o Did you go WTF at that too:huh: Becuase the neck is the thinnest part of a statue's upper body and would therefore break at its weakest point???

[turtlefocker]

Is everyone aware that they went out of their way to make it outdated?

Spielberg decided early on that he wanted the film to have a distinctly old-fashioned feel. He and his cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, watched the three previous films so they could match their style, itself based on the cliffhanger Saturday-matinée serials of the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s. (Douglas Slocombe shot the first three Indy films.)

“Both Janusz and I had to swallow our pride,” Spielberg says. “Janusz had to approximate another cinematographer’s look, and I had to approximate this younger director’s look that I thought I had moved away from after almost two decades. To achieve this look, Spielberg deliberately used few computer-generated shots and employed much less fast cutting than most modern action movies feature.



Wasn't there also an article that said that they were using exaggerated sound effects and that the CGI they did use was not intended to look realistic...

[Mr. Credible]

it really feels like nobody is judging this movie based on... well... this movie. only on the ones before it, the nostalgia factor.

admit it, this movie had some GLARINGLY BAD cringe worthy moments in it. if you enjoyed it, that's one thing, but there's no way this movie is a 10, and even 9 is pushing it.

i guarantee you, give it about 4 or 5 months for the hype to die down, and this will be just as looked down upon the phantom menace. just wait.

[turtlefocker]

Well then this film will be enjoyable in 10 years from now for someone who thinks this came out in 1999.
See the movie yourself.
The problem is the things done with CGI could've done much better that it would have made the film better. The crappy CGI takes you out of the movie, where if this film came out in the late 1990s then it would be fine.

The previous Indys used the best tech available from ILM, so should have this. It looks like an Indy film inserted with bad CGI when it could've had great CGI that one couldn't even tell the difference from computer to fake. Or use prostetics or models or something that looks real and not phony.

well then, to you, they made a bad choice. They wanted it to look exactly like the originals. You wanted it to look like a film made today. Maybe if they make a fifth they'll update it.

[chaseter]

Well then this film will be enjoyable in 10 years from now for someone who thinks this came out in 1999.
See the movie yourself.
The problem is the things done with CGI could've done much better that it would have made the film better. The crappy CGI takes you out of the movie, where if this film came out in the late 1990s then it would be fine.

The previous Indys used the best tech available from ILM, so should have this. It looks like an Indy film inserted with bad CGI when it could've had great CGI that one couldn't even tell the difference from computer to fake. Or use prostetics or models or something that looks real and not phony.
You make a great point but by today's standards...the effects in those 3 movies are near laughable. Seeing an incredibly fake Molina with spikes in his head was alright because the movie was so great. I know most people will be angry at the CGI if it as you all say (I am seeing it tonight) but this movie was meant to be nostalgic and not boast 300 million dollar CGI effects.

[Immortalfire]

The Spear that pierced Jesus Chirst on the cross. It was in Constantine.

Hmm, never thought about that one.

[turtlefocker]

Can someone list all the references to the previous three films?

[Mr. Credible]

and now we're defending the bad cgi?

"it wasn't meant to look real!"

yeah... okay. of course it wasn't. they wanted it to look really back in the day.... like, 7 years ago old school.

:rolleyes:

[chaseter]

and now we're defending the bad cgi?

"it wasn't meant to look real!"

yeah... okay. of course it wasn't. they wanted it to look really back in the day.... like, 7 years ago old school.

:rolleyes:
If Lucas, Spielberg, etc. wanted epic CGI...don't you think they could have gotten it:o And don't you think a higher budget would have been approved? They weren't short on time so what is your excuse?

[LegendaryCaleb]

The spear that pierced Christ's side which was the killing blow during the cruxifiction.

Its said to give whoever holds it the power to be immortal as well asthe army they may be leading. The popular myth usually incorporates great world conquers as past holders
that sounds like it could work up to a hell of a nice story!

[Kakihara]

If Lucas, Spielberg, etc. wanted epic CGI...don't you think they could have gotten it:o And don't you think a higher budget would have been approved? They weren't short on time so what is your excuse?

What the hell are you talking about? The cg was horrid and there's no excuse and no, it wasn't meant to be that way. I guess you're saying the film was meant to suck like it did too?! Utter lunacy.

[Mr. Credible]

If Lucas, Spielberg, etc. wanted epic CGI...don't you think they could have gotten it:o And don't you think a higher budget would have been approved? They weren't short on time so what is your excuse?

my excuse? what's theirs?

the cgi was laughable in some scenes... and not "nostalgic, 80's, serial movie" bad, more like, "7 or 8 years ago, we tried, but this is the best we could do" bad.

this movie had a huge budget, it was probably wasted elsewhere or something, how should i know? like the star wars prequels, those movies had huge budgets, all the time in the world, and crap cgi... was that supposed to be "nostalgic", too?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Hahaha, I can not wait to see this Mutt/Monkeys thing because it appears to be universally reviled.

[turtlefocker]

that sounds like it could work up to a hell of a nice story!

Darabont should write

Spielberg should Direct.

Lucas should be "busy with Star Wars series", if you catch my drift...

[TNC9852002]

and now we're defending the bad cgi?

"it wasn't meant to look real!"

yeah... okay. of course it wasn't. they wanted it to look really back in the day.... like, 7 years ago old school.

:rolleyes:
Bad CGI is misconcepted term. There's no way that anything in what I saw in Indy 4 could've been replicated by computers in that sort of detail five years ago.

and just because you know it's CG by looking at it or can tell it's a computer generated object, that doesn't always mean that it's bad or not well rendered with it's background. If that's the case, then 85% of all action movies have bad CGI in most respect.

I think it's time we've built a tolerance to it like I have. We can't always roll our eyes when we see a spacecraft that we know is not there. Knowing how this team operates, I'm very inclined to believe that a lot of the SFX that a lot of people are complaining about (in most movies in general, not just Indy), were actual practical props and effects with only CG enhancements.

-TNC

[chaseter]

my excuse? what's theirs?

the cgi was laughable in some scenes... and not "nostalgic, 80's, serial movie" bad, more like, "7 or 8 years ago, we tried, but this is the best we could do" bad.

this movie had a huge budget, it was probably wasted elsewhere or something, how should i know? like the star wars prequels, those movies had huge budgets, all the time in the world, and crap cgi... was that supposed to be "nostalgic", too?
They purposely made it that way...read Wilhelm's links and if you were keeping up with production you would have already known this. As for Star Wars' CGI, it has nothing to do with this movie and therefore no correlation.

The worst critic is an uneducated one. No offense but some critics and fans don't take the time to research a film before they see it or had the chance to follow it through production.

[turtlefocker]

I haven't seen it yet but one things for sure, it's the best Indiana Jones film since Last Crusade...

[chaseter]

I haven't seen it yet but one things for sure, it's the best Indiana Jones film since Last Crusade...
Indeed:woot:

[blake]

I just saw it and I think it was... well, allright.
I had no problem with the alien story, the Indy movies always had a supernatural element. It's pseudoarcheology, not real archeology, just like the Ark or the Holy Grail.
What I didn't like was the way they exaggerated the ending. The aliens and the flying saucer were just stupid ideas. This is like after the Ark was opened in Raiders and the ghosts came out... and then afterwards God came out of the sky, maybe reaching down with a huge hand, or if Kali appeard at the end of Temple of Doon.
What I'm trying too say is that it was just too much... fine, aliens came to earth, but leave it at that. Keep it a mystery who they actually were or how they looked.

Other than that the movie was fine. It was interesting to see an older Indiana Jones.
Chrystal Skull is definately not as good as the first three, but still worth watching.

[The Amazing Lee]

I hate this thread. :(

[Mr. Credible]

make all the excuses you want... this movie had some bad special effects.

[Kakihara]

They purposely made it that way...read Wilhelm's links and if you were keeping up with production you would have already known this. As for Star Wars' CGI, it has nothing to do with this movie and therefore no correlation.

The worst critic is an uneducated one. No offense but some critics and fans don't take the time to research a film before they see it or had the chance to follow it through production.

So you're saying there was a meeting and they all agreed, "Let's make Indy 4 look like poop! Audiences will eat it up!" That's what you're saying?! They wanted Indy to look like poop?

[Mister J]

Guys, I know the movie has been widely released, but (much like Cloverfield) we're asking that you make use of spoiler tags/blackout text for the larger revelations until this first weekend is over. This thing is drawing a lot of interest and we'd like to preserve the integrity of some detail for those still on the fence or unable to get to the cineplex early on. Thanks.

[DACMAN]

I haven't seen it yet but one things for sure, it's the best Indiana Jones film since Last Crusade...

I love your fricken avatar and custom tag under it! :up:

[black_dust]

Well i stayed out of this thread for about a year now and im back.

The film was good, but in some places it just wasnt indy....

Mutt and the monkeys = bad ....WTF? bad....

[TNC9852002]

make all the excuses you want... this movie had some bad special effects.
Hmmm...That's a very broad and unspecific statement.

Wow. Care to clarify? I mean, I'm sure no one here has made an excuse for all of the SFX in the movie that you thought was bad.

-TNC

[turtlefocker]

The film was good, but in some places it just wasn't indy....

Mutt and the monkeys = bad ....WTF? bad....

At least it wasn't as bad as you thought it was going to be:

Hmmm this is all about the money and not a love of the film its self, if they loved the film they would leave it as it is!

[Jack O Lantern]

I love people who bash cgi. People bashed the bad cgi in the Spider-Man films and even went to the point of picking apart certain shots; for example on guy bemoaned the american flag scene, not because of the chesseness but how fake Spidey and the flag looked at how bad the cgi was. Which makes it all the moe interesting that that scene contains no CGI.

My point is, and I'm not attacking any one person here, people ***** about CGI being bad because they hate cgi in general or because they want to appear smarter than everyone else. To the extent that they bash movies that has such good cgi they can't tell real from fake

[블라스]

Hahaha some of you people are just hilarious.
I was expecting a new Indiana Jones movie, and that's exactly what I got.
100% badass from beginning to end.

Bad CGI? Kiss my ass. They did it like that to make it like the old ones. I'm really gonna have to trust Spielberg a lot more than some smartass 15 year old with delusions of grandeur.

The Mutt-monkey thing? Kiss my ass. It's no more ridiculous than Indy playing a Scottish Lord entering a Nazi castle to look for tapestries, or a dinner where the main dishes are snakes, scarabs and goddamn monkey brains.

It had a lot of CGI? Kiss my ass. Wanting everything done in the practical way is not being a purist. That's being a dumbass.

The hate for Shia? Kiss my ass. Like many people have mentioned it before, the internet sheep always need to have a hate-boner for someone, and it shows how jealous and petty they really are.

The alien storyline? Kiss my ass. It was handled so great, and mixed perfectly with ancient cultures and mysteries and all that stuff. It's not like it's the first time someone in the Archeology field has made that connection. You people make it sound like this was ID4, with Indy punching an alien and yelling "WELCOME TO EARTH!!"

What the hell is wrong with people? This was a freaking great Indy Jones movie :(

[blake]

The special effects were actually very good... some were just not necessary.

[The Amazing Lee]

Hahaha some of you people are just hilarious.
I was expecting a new Indiana Jones movie, and that's exactly what I got.
100% badass from beginning to end.

Bad CGI? Kiss my ass. They did it like that to make it like the old ones. I'm really gonna have to trust Spielberg a lot more than some smartass 15 year old with delusions of grandeur.

The Mutt-monkey thing? Kiss my ass. It's no more ridiculous than Indy playing a Scottish Lord entering a Nazi castle to look for tapestries, or a dinner where the main dishes are snakes, scarabs and goddamn monkey brains.

It had a lot of CGI? Kiss my ass. Wanting everything done in the practical way is not being a purist. That's being a dumbass.

The hate for Shia? Kiss my ass. Like many people have mentioned it before, the internet sheep always need to have a hate-boner for someone, and it shows how jealous and petty they really are.

What the hell is wrong with people? This was a freaking great Indy Jones movie :(
I'm worried Blas...

what's with you really wanting others to kiss your ass...is there...is there something you're not telling us? :csad:

[turtlefocker]

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/movieman/files/2008/04/indynew.jpg

Is this a cool scene?

[블라스]

I'm worried Blas...

what's with you really wanting others to kiss your ass...is there...is there something you're not telling us? :csad:


No! :cmad:
Maybe... :huh:

:(

[블라스]

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/movieman/files/2008/04/indynew.jpg

Is this a cool scene?

Hell yeah.

[protocida]

Cool as Hell.

References i catch:

. The ark of Covenant during the fight on the warehouse.

. Indy talking about Pancho Villa.

. The fight between Jocks and Riders on the bar.

. ''I Have a bad feeling about this...'' line.

. Henry Sir and Marcus Brody pictures.

. Marcus Brody statue.

. Indy and Marion fights.

[The Guardian]

I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT BLAS, I LOVED IT!!!:indy::up:

[protocida]

I Pitch some ideas for scenes on ''Indiana Jones 5''.

. Mutt trying to swing in to a tunnel using the wip and hiting on the wall. After that, Indy shows up and says ''You have so much to learn, kid...''

. Indy recoverig the artifact and Mutt shutting the eyes. Indy smiles and says ''Chill out, Boy. It's not like it's going to melt you face down or something...''

. Willie Scott showing up and, obviously, screaming. Than Indy says ''Shut up...'', Then, he turns and, confused/suprised, says: ''... Willie?''

. Indy and Marion trapped inside a chamber and Indy saying ''Willie, we are going to die!''. She responds: ''Ah, you always say that!''

[블라스]

I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT BLAS, I LOVE IT!!!:indy::up:

Oh hell yeah, man :up:
I'll be watching it again tomorrow, after my weekly pool challenge with an evil Japanese girl from school :cmad:

[luke1234]

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/18263534/review/20899228/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull

i think peter travers nailed what a lot of people are thinking about, it sure was an indiana jones film but there was nothing special to it

[FaT_tONle]

Why do we always have to stoop down our expecations for these sequels/prequels 19 years in the making. I was still a kid when the prequels came out. I walked out of Ep. 1 knowing it kinda sucked even at a young age. I understand most of use are adults and the Indy movies may have passed us by... and there was obviously no way Indy 4 was living up to expectations... but I just didn't feel it. Blanchett was a huge disappointment. Was she supposed to be menacing? And Winstone was a big wtf? He backstabs that quickly? There was no buildup in that opening sequence. I couldn't get into it. Ford wasn't going to carry the film on his own again we all knew that. But to make the supporting cast as lack luster as they were with the cheezy story on top of it all... very poor. I just can't lower my expecations and accept this movie when they steeped as low or almost as low as they did with Phantom Menace.

[turtlefocker]

Cool as Hell.

References i caught:

. The ark of Covenant during the fight on the warehouse.

Does it actually show the ark? or is it just the same room...

. Indy talking about Pancho Villa.

What Young Indy episode is that from?

. The fight between Jocks and Riders on the bar.

...Back to the Future...?

...or just the names "raiders"

. ''I Have a bad feeling about this...'' line.

Star Wars?

. Henry Sir and Marcus Brody pictures.

Does Indy talk about them? Is there any dialog about his father or Marcus?

. Marcus Brody statue.

Huh?





:yay:

[luke1234]

Why do we always have to stoop down our expecations for these sequels/prequels 19 years in the making. I was still a kid when the prequels came out. I walked out of Ep. 1 knowing it kinda sucked even at a young age. I understand most of use are adults and the Indy movies may have passed us by... and there was obviously no way Indy 4 was living up to expectations... but I just didn't feel it. Blanchett was a huge disappointment. Was she supposed to be menacing? And Winstone was a big wtf? He backstabs that quickly? There was no buildup in that opening sequence. I couldn't get into it. Ford wasn't going to carry the film on his own again we all knew that. But to make the supporting cast as lack luster as they were with the cheezy story on top of it all... very poor. I just can't lower my expecations and accept this movie when they steeped as low or almost as low as they did with Phantom Menace.

yeah im sorry i tried to do what people have been telling us to do, go in and just have fun and enjoy a thrill ride, well i tried and i still was dissapointed, sorry spielberg but the story just didnt cut it

[FaT_tONle]

I Pitch some ideas for scenes on ''Indiana Jones 5''.

Tell me... when do we say enough is enough? Even if Shia is THAT good down the line... and Ford is in the Connery role... they need new writers and producers they just do... and I think these genre films may have even passed Spielberg behind. As frightening as WotW and A.I were... the guys best days are behind him. I don't even want a JP4 even if Spielberg returns. Lucas has dragged him down to his level like the previous poster mentioned.

[protocida]

. Indy runs away from the sovietics and Spalko's car crash on a container, that shows a part of the Ark.

. I Don't remember exactly.

. ''American Graffiti''.

. Yes.

. Yes. Indy says ''First Marcus... Than my dad...''. Then, whe see pictures of them and, on the ending, Indy says ''Somewhere, your grandfather is laughing of all this''.

. There's a Marcus Brody Statue on the Marshall College yard.

[Dark_Lord]

I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT BLAS, I LOVED IT!!!:indy::up:

I LOVED it, too! The theater was full and everyone seemed to enjoy it very much. I also got the latest The Dark Knight trailer so, it was even more awesome!

[protocida]

[quote=FaT_tONle;14863580]Tell me... when do we say enough is enough?[quote]

What do you mean? :huh:

[The Guardian]

Oh hell yeah, man :up:
I'll be watching it again tomorrow, after my weekly pool challenge with an evil Japanese girl from school :cmad:

LOL, SICKHER BLAS SICKHER, LOL!!!:oldrazz::D I SAW IT TODAY FOR THE SECOND TIME AND IT WAS EVEN BETTER!!!:indy::up:

[turtlefocker]

. Indy runs away from the sovietics and Spalko's car crash on a container, that shows a part of the Ark.

. I Don't remember exactly.

. ''American Graffiti''.

. Yes.

. Yes. Indy says ''First Marcus... Than my dad...''. Then, when he sees a pictures of them and, on the ending, Indy says ''Somewhere, your grandfather is laughing of all this''.

. There's a Marcus Brody Statue on the Marshall College yard.

I see, thanks. Just one more question; Why does Marcus have a statue?

Also that last Indy quote... he says that to Mutt?

[블라스]

LOL, SICKHER BLAS SICKHER, LOL!!!:oldrazz::D I SAW IT TODAY FOR THE SECOND TIME AND IT WAS EVEN BETTER!!!:indy::up:

She's very good, she's like Paul Newman in The Hustler :(
But we're always 50-50.
Anyway, yeah, I can't wait to watch it again :up:

[War Party]

I see, thanks. Just one more question; Why does Marcus have a statue?

Also that last Indy quote... he says that to Mutt?

Because he's dead and it was made in memory of him at the school.

[protocida]

And yes, he says it to Mutt.

[turtlefocker]

Because he's dead and it was made in memory of him at the school.

Makes sense, I should have got that from "first Marcus..."

[turtlefocker]

And yes, he says it to Mutt.

Cool.

How would you rate this in comparison to the other three?

[The Guardian]

I LOVED it, too! The theater was full and everyone seemed to enjoy it very much. I also got the latest The Dark Knight trailer so, it was even more awesome!

YEAH MY VIEWING TODAY WAS MORE SUBDUED BUT LAST NIGHT AT THE MIDNIGHT SHOW WAS GREAT, PEOPLE LAUGHED, CHEERED, AND CLAPPED AT THE END!!!:D:up: THERE WERE LIKE SIX GUYS DRESSED UP AS INDY, ONE OF THEM WAS FULL ON WITH A REAL WHIP, HE EVEN KNEW HOW TO USE IT WHICH HE DEMONSTRATED AFTER THE MOVIE WAS OVER OUTSIDE, PRETTY COOL!!!:indy::up:

[블라스]

I think most of the people hating the movie were already hell-bent on doing so before watching the damn movie :(

[Mr. Credible]

http://chud.com/articles/articles/14781/1/REVIEW-INDIANA-JONES-AND-THE-KINGDOM-OF-THE-CRYSTAL-SKULL-DEVIN039S-TAKE/Page1.html

that pretty much sums up my feelings on the movie to a T.

[War Party]

I wish the poll was public.

[Mr. Credible]

I think most of the people hating the movie were already hell-bent on doing so before watching the damn movie :(

yeah... and the people raving about this movie had there minds made up already, too... they figured it's indiana jones, i'll love it, regardless of the poor script, distracting special effects, goofy dialog, and plot lines that lead pretty much nowhere.

yay!

[Rezzo]

Just came back from watching it and I had a blast with it. :up:

[protocida]

For me, it's the best movie of the year.

10/10.

[The Guardian]

I JUST SAW ON ET THAT THEY'RE TRACKING $50 MILLION ON DAY ONE, THAT'S CRAZY AWESOME!!!:eek::up::indy::up:

[turtlefocker]

I JUST SAW ON ET THAT THEY'RE TRACKING $50 MILLION ON DAY ONE, THAT'S CRAZY AWESOME!!!:eek::up::indy::up:

For comparison what were Iron Man and Spider man 3's opening day numbers?

[BloodyWolverine]

I am not sure really i think Iron Man was 90 million something teh 4 days put it over for a 4 day weekend

[Joker]

yeah... and the people raving about this movie had there minds made up already, too... they figured it's indiana jones, i'll love it, regardless of the poor script, distracting special effects, goofy dialog, and plot lines that lead pretty much nowhere.

yay!

Yeah, cause no other Indy movies had poor SFX (raiders final scene), goofy dialoug (ALL of them) or plot lines that are never totally sewed up (Short Round went where again?)

Indiana Jones is not f**king Citizen Kane. They're an homage to old movie serials, and a great one that. They're FUN. I went in thinking "this could be good or as bad as Phantom Menace," and it was good. Simple as that. It gave me literally everything I was looking for in the movie. And if you hate it just for the fact that you wanted to hate it before even seeing it, I really just feel sorry for you and your pathetic jaded little life where you think your opinion is going to make a difference when it comes to this movie, which is already a hit.

[Conebone69]

Gonna see it tonight! Cant wait! :indy:

[War Party]

I think I will see it again, because my brother is back from Italy in 2 weeks and he wants to see it. Yeah, it's a flawed film, but I got what I want anyway and I just smiled throughout.

[turtlefocker]

http://chud.com/articles/articles/14781/1/REVIEW-INDIANA-JONES-AND-THE-KINGDOM-OF-THE-CRYSTAL-SKULL-DEVIN039S-TAKE/Page1.html

that pretty much sums up my feelings on the movie to a T.

"I will say that Crystal Skull does answer one question: Can Steven Spielberg direct a modestly decent action film in his sleep? Yes."

Funny quote.

[블라스]

yeah... and the people raving about this movie had there minds made up already, too... they figured it's indiana jones, i'll love it, regardless of the poor script, distracting special effects, goofy dialog, and plot lines that lead pretty much nowhere.

yay!

Sorry, I really can't take anything you say seriously.
At all.
Heh most of the time you're just talking about things of which you have no idea.
It's like, you actually put a lot effort into looking/sounding like this. :huh:

[Joker]

Sorry, I really can't take anything you say seriously.
At all.
Heh most of the time you're just talking about things of which you have no idea.
It's like, you actually put a lot effort into looking/sounding like this. :huh:

I responded to him up there without looking at the name of the poster. If I would have known it was him, I wouldn't have bothered. He's pretty much king of the douche-people here in the movie forums. He doesnt have a single valid opinion that I've ever seen, his complaints are always about ridiculous things, and he seems to hate EVERYTHING. He's your stereotypical internet nerd. He would probably be more at home over on the AICN talkbacks...

[turtlefocker]

Yeah, cause no other Indy movies had poor SFX (raiders final scene), goofy dialoug (ALL of them) or plot lines that are never totally sewed up (Short Round went where again?)





Thank you. Thank you.

It's like these people have never seen the other movies. The are fileld with ****ty dialog and characters that pop up out of nowhere then disappear just as fast -all of which have a 'history' with Indy- and like you said the SFX are garbage.

But that doesn't stop them from being awesome films.

[War Party]

I responded to him up there without looking at the name of the poster. If I would have known it was him, I wouldn't have bothered. He's pretty much king of the douche-people here in the movie forums. He doesnt have a single valid opinion that I've ever seen, his complaints are always about ridiculous things, and he seems to hate EVERYTHING. He's your stereotypical internet nerd. He would probably be more at home over on the AICN talkbacks...

I agree with this. I rarely ever agree with anything he says.

[Mr. Credible]

Sorry, I really can't take anything you say seriously.
At all.
Heh most of the time you're just talking about things of which you have no idea.
It's like, you actually put a lot effort into looking/sounding like this. :huh:

things of which i have no idea?

i saw the movie... i didn't like it. how do i have no idea about that? it's not like i'm the only one that feels this way.

really, i'd love to see you actually debate some of the negatives of this movie (of which there are many) rather than just dismissing it by saying "you're stupid, this movie was great."

[Joker]

Thank you. Thank you.

It's like these people have never seen the other movies. The are fileld with ****ty dialog and characters that pop up out of nowhere then disappear just as fast -all of which have a 'history' with Indy- and like you said the SFX are garbage.

But that doesn't stop them from being awesome films.

I look at them like this. Each is supposed to be an entire series of serials, edited together. But we havent seen all of them. I would say if you were to show every Indy adventure that's taken place, it would be around 100 movies. It's like if you were to go back and take just 4 Buck Rogers serials or whatever, and release them as movies. Of course you dont have all of the history, but you get enough of it from the dialouge and character interaction that you can piece it together yourself. Which I like, cause it doesnt spoon feed you like most movies do.

[블라스]

I responded to him up there without looking at the name of the poster. If I would have known it was him, I wouldn't have bothered. He's pretty much king of the douche-people here in the movie forums. He doesnt have a single valid opinion that I've ever seen, his complaints are always about ridiculous things, and he seems to hate EVERYTHING. He's your stereotypical internet nerd. He would probably be more at home over on the AICN talkbacks...

Heh :up:
Btw, I was surprised at the amount of talkbackers who loved this movie :huh:

[Megalith]

I can sum up the movie in one word: meaningless.

However, Spielberg definitely gets points for some very, very great shots (I love the part when Spalko is leaning over the crate as they are opening it in the beginning and she has this wild look). A lot of the shots seemed doubly impressive to me because somehow, they carried this sense of "classic Indy" with them.

...but that was mostly in the beginning of the film. It gets worse and worse. Then it becomes Indiana Jones: Fight the Future.

Well, at least the score is fantastic. Irina's Theme.

[Rezzo]

Was this posted already?

Team Indy Featurette

480p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/web14/Webisode14_TeamIndy_480p.mov)

720p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/web14/Webisode14_TeamIndy_720p.mov)

1080p (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/web14/Webisode14_TeamIndy_1080p.mov)

[Figs]

I'm seeing this film in about two hours.

Can't wait, I'm going in with an open mind. I haven't read one review yet since I keep hearing rumours that it's getting negatives.

So far it seems like it will be a good addition to the original trilogy.

[Joker]

I can sum up the movie in one word: meaningless.

However, Spielberg definitely gets points for some very, very great shots (I love the part when Spalko is leaning over the crate as they are opening it in the beginning and she has this wild look). A lot of the shots seemed doubly impressive to me because somehow, they carried this sense of "classic Indy" with them.

...but that was mostly in the beginning of the film. It gets worse and worse. Then it becomes Indiana Jones: Fight the Future.

Well, at least the score is fantastic. Irina's Theme.

Yes, cause all other Indy movies are so deep. And you know, dont have crazy ass things going on like Shiva killing a Thugee cult leader and the Ark of the Covenant letting god come down and kill nazis...aliens just dont fit at all :rolleyes:

[블라스]

things of which i have no idea?

i saw the movie... i didn't like it. how do i have no idea about that? it's not like i'm the only one that feels this way.

really, i'd love to see you actually debate some of the negatives of this movie (of which there are many) rather than just dismissing it by saying "you're stupid, this movie was great."

Well, I didn't mean just Indy. You just seem to think you have this superiority when it comes to movies, or something. And it's funny cause you just don't have enough knowledge about something, yet you still fire upon us poor souls with your poorly conceived opinions :(

Haha like with your famous "95% of Asian movies are power rangers knock-offs" comment that just reeked of so much ignorance.
I'm sure there's a lot more stuff like that.

You can hate the movie (or call it "A pretentious mediocre mess of a half-assed decent action movie with phoned-in performances blah blah blah", cause people like you like to type/sound/talk like that) for all I care, we're all gonna be ok :meow:

[luke1234]

I'm seeing this film in about two hours.

Can't wait, I'm going in with an open mind. I haven't read one review yet since I keep hearing rumours that it's getting negatives.

So far it seems like it will be a good addition to the original trilogy.

thats good that you havent read any of the reviews yet, i have to start doing that more often especially when tdk comes out

[turtlefocker]

SceneStealers Review (Highly Positive):

qgcLVVfW_F8

[Figs]

thats good that you havent read any of the reviews yet, i have to start doing that more often especially when tdk comes out


Same here with TDK. So many Batman fans are 100% sure that it's going to be this end all be all film.

They may keep it faithful to the comics and include a lot of scenes that the fanboys will love...but that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to get a good score on RT or overall.

IJ4...I keep hearing people argue back and forth that it was good/great or that it was bad/horrible. I'm going in with a clean slate and hoping for a good fourth to a character I grew up with.

[luke1234]

Did George Lucas do this story? with the aliens and everything? cause if he did what a shameful hit and miss situation just like with the star wars prequels

[Joker]

Did George Lucas do this story? with the aliens and everything? cause if he did what a shameful hit and miss situation just like with the star wars prequels

Him and Spielberg did the story like for all the movies. Lucas came up with the title "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars" originally, and they worked off that. And it was a total hit.

[블라스]

I'm really glad I am me.

[Rezzo]

Did George Lucas do this story? with the aliens and everything?

Yep.

[turtlefocker]

Did George Lucas do this story? with the aliens and everything? cause if he did what a shameful hit and miss situation just like with the star wars prequels

Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford are at much different stages of their careers. Spielberg seems to be at a creative peak after making such stellar projects as Minority Report and Munich. Lucas on the other hand finds himself richer than ever but hated by his former fans because of the problematic Star Wars prequel trilogy. Of the three Harrison Ford has perhaps fallen the furthest as he has gone from being the worlds biggest movie star to giving wooden performances in forgettable thrillers like Firewall.

[Nivek]

I'm not reading any more reviews till after I see it. Some of the negative reviews I've read seem like they come from people who either have no sense of joy, or come off as never being fans of the first 3 films.

The one thing that has stood out is that some of these fans seem completely ignorant of the movie serials that Indiana Jones is based on, and all there negatives seem to come from that lack of "getting it".

[JackBauer]

Just came back. Really dug it until the third act.

I didn't have a problem with the alien part of the plot until one actually appeared on screen and left in his flying saucer. The crystal skull still felt mystical, but that was just all-out sci-fi. And I know that was the point, but to me that's just not Indy.

Other than that, yeah, the Mutt/Tarzan thing was overt, but, coming back to a comparison someone made, it was hardly as bad as emo Peter Parker in Spidey 3.

Harrison Ford was just naturally Indy, Shia held his own, but Karen Allen didn't really have enough screentime to register either way. Ray Winstone was pretty charismatic, but they really shouldn't have had him betray Indy so early in the movie. It'd be better if you actually got to feel as betrayed as Indy, which you couldn't when you barely know the guy.

The action scenes were great, and I didn't have a problem with the CGI... Mostly.

So Blas, do I kiss your ass now or do I kiss it later? :D

[블라스]

Now dammit! :cmad:

[TNC9852002]

Hahaha some of you people are just hilarious.
I was expecting a new Indiana Jones movie, and that's exactly what I got.
100% badass from beginning to end.

Bad CGI? Kiss my ass. They did it like that to make it like the old ones. I'm really gonna have to trust Spielberg a lot more than some smartass 15 year old with delusions of grandeur.

The Mutt-monkey thing? Kiss my ass. It's no more ridiculous than Indy playing a Scottish Lord entering a Nazi castle to look for tapestries, or a dinner where the main dishes are snakes, scarabs and goddamn monkey brains.

It had a lot of CGI? Kiss my ass. Wanting everything done in the practical way is not being a purist. That's being a dumbass.

The hate for Shia? Kiss my ass. Like many people have mentioned it before, the internet sheep always need to have a hate-boner for someone, and it shows how jealous and petty they really are.

The alien storyline? Kiss my ass. It was handled so great, and mixed perfectly with ancient cultures and mysteries and all that stuff. It's not like it's the first time someone in the Archeology field has made that connection. You people make it sound like this was ID4, with Indy punching an alien and yelling "WELCOME TO EARTH!!"

What the hell is wrong with people? This was a freaking great Indy Jones movie :(
lol. I don't know what it is, but I like this guy. Looking back, the Mutt/monkey and some of the fighting during the chase scenes did look a whole lot like some of the SFX I remember seeing in Temple of Doom and TLC.

-TNC

[블라스]

lol. I don't know what it is, but I like this guy.

-TNC

:heart:

[turtlefocker]

I JUST SAW ON ET THAT THEY'RE TRACKING $50 MILLION ON DAY ONE, THAT'S CRAZY AWESOME!!!:eek::up::indy::up:

For comparison

[JackBauer]

For comparison does anyone know off-hand what Iron Man and Spider man 3's opening day numbers were?

Iron Man - $35,234,361 on opening day; $98,618,668 opening weekend (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ironman.htm)

Spider-Man 3 - $59,841,919 on opening day; $151,116,516 opening weekend (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman3.htm)

[TNC9852002]

Invinci-Pals?

-TNC

[블라스]

From "Invincible" a.k.a. one of the best comicbooks ever. So good that it actually got me to read comicbooks again.

[JackBauer]

SceneStealers Review (Highly Positive):

qgcLVVfW_F8

Agree with pretty much all of that. :up:

[turtlefocker]

Iron Man - $35,234,361 on opening day; $98,618,668 opening weekend (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ironman.htm)

Spider-Man 3 - $59,841,919 on opening day; $151,116,516 opening weekend (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman3.htm)

So if Guardian's right then Indy did better than Iron Man but not as good as Spider-man for it's opening day.

[JackBauer]

From "Invincible" a.k.a. one of the best comicbooks ever. So good that it actually got me to read comicbooks again.

Hell yeah! :up:

You should definitely look into it, TNC. If you don't get hooked right away, read it until issue 7. That's the one that gets people.

[JackBauer]

So if Guardian's right then Indy did better than Iron Man but not as good as Spider-man for it's opening day.

Yep. This'll be a pretty interesting "fight". Spidey had momentum going for it, but Indiana Jones is Indiana Jones. Spidey 3 had some bad word of mouth, and KOTCS seems to be getting some of that.

It's gonna be close. We'll see.

[Mr. Socko]

Just came back. Really dug it until the third act.

I didn't have a problem with the alien part of the plot until one actually appeared on screen and left in his flying saucer. The crystal skull still felt mystical, but that was just all-out sci-fi. And I know that was the point, but to me that's just not Indy.

Other than that, yeah, the Mutt/Tarzan thing was overt, but, coming back to a comparison someone made, it was hardly as bad as emo Peter Parker in Spidey 3.

Harrison Ford was just naturally Indy, Shia held his own, but Karen Allen didn't really have enough screentime to register either way. Ray Winstone was pretty charismatic, but they really shouldn't have had him betray Indy so early in the movie. It'd be better if you actually got to feel as betrayed as Indy, which you couldn't when you barely know the guy.

The action scenes were great, and I didn't have a problem with the CGI... Mostly.

So Blas, do I kiss your ass now or do I kiss it later? :D

Completely agree with this. I really liked it but the aliens in the flying saucer was just too much. Ironically, in 1980 Spielberg said he wanted Toht to have a robotic arm but Lucas refused because he didn't want Indiana Jones to contain any elements of science fiction! It was my only gripe, I give it a great 9/10.

[TNC9852002]

These guys hit it on the nail for me:

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I still have NO idea why so many people are having an issue with that spacecraft near the end. Maybe it's from me doing so much research on the subject of UFOs and pyramids or something, but I loved that part and it felt very fitting with the series.

-TNC

[CBG]

Damn good movie.

[War Party]

That review was entertaining.

[arachnid-guy]

Saw it a few hours ago. Yes it was classic Indy...up until the final few minutes...

The 'reveal' was too much. It was better subtly implied.
FAR better if it was subtle. :[
A disappointment...to an otherwise really good movie. That moment slightly ruined the movie for me, imo.

It's just too glaring and OBVIOUS. ;_;

[CrypticOne]

I don't understand why they put aliens in this movie. It doesn't make much sense. Can someone please explain the situation for me?

[Mr. Socko]

yeah... and the people raving about this movie had there minds made up already, too... they figured it's indiana jones, i'll love it, regardless of the poor script,

I disagree. I thought it was just as well scripted as the originals.

distracting special effects,

The cheesy effects is what makes the movies so much fun.

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2954/lawyersmeltingvq8.jpg

goofy dialog, and plot lines that lead pretty much nowhere.

yay!

Again, the dialogue is not anymore goofy than in the previous films. There are some goofy lines and they're pretty intentional. As Joker said, this isn't suppose to be Citizen Kane. As for "plot lines that lead no where," this plot is actually VERY VERY similar to Raiders of the Lost Ark, which I assume you must also have a problem with. In fact, the third act is almost exactly the same. In a secret base, villains find the powerful McGuffin they are after because they believe it to give them unlimited power, but it actually kills them in hokey manners. All while Indy and Marion escape.

Yes, cause all other Indy movies are so deep. And you know, dont have crazy ass things going on like Shiva killing a Thugee cult leader and the Ark of the Covenant letting god come down and kill nazis...aliens just dont fit at all :rolleyes:

I actually wasn't fond of the aliens at all during the coming months waiting for this film but I thought it was pulled off well once I saw it aside from the Saucer coming from the temple.

[TLH]

I'd also like to know wtf is up with the aliens. That doesn't sound very Indy-ish to me but I guess I'll have to see.

Is there really...
a spaceship and you actually see aliens take off in it?
...because if so that sounds pretty ridiculous

[War Party]

I don't get the complaints towards the alien plot since the movie is set in the '50s. atomic age. post-Roswell. beginning of the modern-day UFO phenomenon.

makes perfect sense to me

[Rezzo]

Is there really...
a spaceship and you actually see aliens take off in it?
...because if so that sounds pretty ridiculous

There sure is. :cwink:

I don't get the complaints towards the alien plot since the movie is set in the '50s. atomic age. post-Roswell. beginning of the modern-day UFO phenomenon.

makes perfect sense to me

Likewise.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So...is Temple of Doom better?

Because I actually liked Temple of Doom. I know critics skwed that one to holy hell...

[CrypticOne]

I'd also like to know wtf is up with the aliens. That doesn't sound very Indy-ish to me but I guess I'll have to see.

Is there really...
a spaceship and you actually see aliens take off in it?
...because if so that sounds pretty ridiculous

Yeah....that sounds kind of stupid if....

Aliens are seen taking off in a spaceship.

[JackBauer]

The aliens thing is actually pretty well handed through most of the movie. When it's just the crystal skull, it has that same supernatural and mystical feel to it as the other MagGuffins from the series. But once the portal to another dimension opens, a live alien shows up and leaves in his flying saucer, it gets a little too sci-fi for Indiana Jones, IMO.

[TNC9852002]

I don't understand why they put aliens in this movie. It doesn't make much sense. Can someone please explain the situation for me?
Because the movie takes place in 50's I imagine..

-TNC

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Gotta say, I've yet to see the flick.

But I don't see a problem with having some aliens apect to it.

It's not like supernatural, unexplicable powers is new to Indy. All of the religious and supernatural superpowered artifacts before were clearly unbelievable, but that didn't matter.

Why's the alien stuff a problem? Is it the execution of it?

[Mr. Socko]

So...is Temple of Doom better?

Because I actually liked Temple of Doom. I know critics skwed that one to holy hell...


It is to me, but that's because Temple is my favorite Indy film.

[TNC9852002]

lol. It's ok to see a bunch of alien bones and hieroglyphics and a psychic crystal alien skull, but no no no! Once the actual alien and a spacecraft show up for a few seconds, all of a sudden, it's too sci-fi?...Hmmm...Wow. [face_must_watch_the_original_trilogy_again_and_the n_watch_crystal_skull_again_plain] :p


-TNC

[Rezzo]

Because the movie takes place in 50's I imagine..

-TNC

1957 to be exact.

[CrypticOne]

From what I've heard, every Indy film is better than this one.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah....that sounds kind of stupid if....

Aliens are seen taking off in a spaceship.
It's not quite that explicit.

-TNC

[War Party]

In my opinion, I rank this 3rd best of the series. Ahead of Temple of Doom.

[JackBauer]

lol. It's ok to see a bunch of alien bones and hieroglyphics and a psychic crystal alien skull, but no no no! Once the actual alien and a spacecraft show up for a few seconds, all of a sudden, it's too sci-fi?...Hmmm...Wow. [face_must_watch_the_original_trilogy_again_and_the n_watch_crystal_skull_again_plain] :p


-TNC

I know, it's weird, but what can I say? That's how it felt. When it stopped being an artifact, it got too sci-fi. It didn't ruin the movie, it just felt a little off.

[Mr. Socko]

lol. It's ok to see a bunch of alien bones and hieroglyphics and a psychic crystal alien skull, but no no no! Once the actual alien and a spacecraft show up for a few seconds, all of a sudden, it's too sci-fi?...Hmmm...Wow. [face_must_watch_the_original_trilogy_again_and_the n_watch_crystal_skull_again_plain]

-TNC


I don't think it was "too," it just should have been less subtle. That's actually not the word I'm looking for but someone summed it up well before.

The aliens were fine, so was them destroying the Russians. But when the temple imploded and they flew off in a spacecraft, I thought it was a bit too much. As someone else said, the ghosts of the ark destroying the nazis in Raiders was just fine...but what if after that, A giant fist of God came down from the heavens...it would have been too much.

[Spider-Bat]

The fanboys who aren't really fans who do nothing but complain are so stupid. All they do is whine. It's not like it was as bad as Batman and Robin.

It was a very good movie and great to see Indy again. It could have been worse. I mean really just get over yourselves. They didn't have to make it at all, but for the love of the character they did and did a great job and I give Harrison credit for coming back, some actors can be asses about these things.

Sure the story wasn't as big as 1 or 3 but still fun. I think I'd have liked to see a better villian but oh well still a great film.

[TNC9852002]

From what I've heard, every Indy film is better than this one.
From what I've heard, you haven't yet seen CS.

It's sort of hard to fit this movie in the franchise...for me anyway. I mean, I admire, but don't even "looove" the original trilogy, since I'm relatively late to the Indy series (I grew up watching Doom, but I've only seen Raiders and Last Crusade for the first time four years ago).

Since then, I've seen those other movies so many times, but I haven't gotten used to watch CS the same way, so I plan on watching CS again tomorrow when I get off work so that I can adjust my initial reactions.

Like I've said, I gave this movie a 7 out of 10, but I'm not quite sure why. :p I think I disliked some aspects of the movie that no one has hardly mentioned here. After tomorrow night, I'll be able to give a more cohesive and intelligent review.

-TNC

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I actually thought Last Crusade was the best. Clearly, Raiders is probably the best...but 2nd in my book. While Temple of Doom....is insanely written, and completely nonsensical is really is....I mean, it's a very very crazy film....I still loved it.

Cause it's Indy.

So, I still gotta see this flick to judge it.

And who knows...maybe whenever they get around to making the 5th film, it'll appease those disappointed by this one (much like it happened in 1984 and then to 1989).

[CrypticOne]

From what I've heard, you haven't yet seen CS.

-TNC

Nope, I'm planning on seeing it tomorrow afternoon.

[Spider-Bat]

I know, it's weird, but what can I say? That's how it felt. When it stopped being an artifact, it got too sci-fi. It didn't ruin the movie, it just felt a little off.
I know what you mean, I like Indy best when he's involved in something religous or magical.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I know, it's weird, but what can I say? That's how it felt. When it stopped being an artifact, it got too sci-fi. It didn't ruin the movie, it just felt a little off.


Again, I gotta say that I've yet to see this flick.

But, in every Indy flick...the artifact stops being an artifact, usually when the thing kills whoever is near it or has it's power unleashed. I thought so, atleast.

[Majik1387]

Why don't many people like Temple of Doom the same way they like Raiders and Crusade?

[terry78]

So basically an ancient biblical artifact that literally spews out demons and ghosts, a potion that causes you to become the slave of Kali, and a goblet that causes eternal life or instant death are all so far removed from sci-fi, is what you're saying. Honestly, if Spielbergo and Lucas could have integrated larger setpieces back in the 80's like this, they would have. They could keep it subtle, but when the technology is available to now tell the stories in your head, why not use them?

[Schlosser85]

Ok, I just got back from seeing it, and I really, honestly enjoyed this movie. Do I think it's as good as the others? No, but it also definitely doesn't deserve the trashing it's received in many circles that had me apprehensive (this is all just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less, and I have no interest in engaging in an argument about it). My favorite part was the long jungle chase and everything it entailed, with the exception of the admittedly very cheesy Tarzan bit. I really liked the Mutt-Spalko swordfight on the hoods of their cars (yes it's over-the-top, so is almost every other Indiana Jones action sequence ever filmed, and that's part of what makes it so fun, and calling Indiana Jones over-the-top, tongue-in-cheek, etc. is intended as no insult whatsoever, there's nothing wrong with either of those when it's done this entertainingly, and to entertain was the primary goal of this movie and every Indy movie to precede it, which again is not in the slightest intended as any kind of insult or condescending/belittling/demeaning comment whatsoever), and the car landing on tree/trio of waterfalls sequence.

Harrison Ford still looks and acts like Indy. The only giveaway of his age is that he noticeably doesn't do as many stunts (his best, IMO, are in the first twenty or thirty minutes).

I have always liked Shia LaBeouf and have never seen why so many people hate him so much, and I liked Mutt perfectly fine, I thought he complimented Indy well (certainly better than Willie Scott which I think most will agree with, and this will be more controversial statement, but I would say Short Round too who I think is almost as annoying as Willie).

Cate Blanchett was also perfectly fine, although she could have been given more to do. She's never really nasty enough, but she's still a worthy adversary because she's smart and tough.

It's nice to have Karen Allen back, but she doesn't get much to do.

Ray Winstone and especially John Hurt are wasted.

The "event" at the end (not the big special effects sequence, which didn't bother me, the very end end scene) was cheesy and didn't have enough leading up to it, and was a bit of a lame epilogue.

And yea sure, why couldn't Lucas just use real prairie dogs instead of animating them.

The character interactions are more perfunctory, probably because Indy usually only has one or a couple sidekicks, here he accumulates this whole group he's leading along.

But those are my significant gripes.

Basically, I feel the same way about Indy IV as I do about Terminator 3 (I know a lot of you think T3 is horrible, and again I don't want to argue about personal preferences because we're not gonna change each other's minds and it's pointless to argue about opinions)...not up to the level of the others but still a thoroughly entertaining movie.

I will probably see it again while it's still in the theater, and get the DVD.

By the way, TDK trailer was attached to my screening, along with Kung Fu Panda, Eagle Eye, Hancock, Hellboy 2, and Benjamin Button. I doubt it's a coincidence that both Shia LaBeouf (Eagle Eye) and Cate Blanchett (Benjamin Button) had attached trailers.

[Omega Wizard]

My theatre gave it a standing ovation

[Joker]

On the question of "is this better then Temple of Doom?" I would say yes, but just a little. It's also only slightly worse than Raiders. It's right in the middle of the two. And while ToD is my least favorite of the movie, I still love it. I still want Short Round to come back damn it...They have a letter from him sent around the time of this movie in the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones, which I just picked up and read, so maybe if they do Indy 5 we'll get him. I'd actually like to see Short Round meet Mutt...

[War Party]

I was hoping short round was going to be at the wedding

[JackBauer]

On the question of "is this better then Temple of Doom?" I would say yes, but just a little. It's also only slightly worse than Raiders. It's right in the middle of the two. And while ToD is my least favorite of the movie, I still love it. I still want Short Round to come back damn it...They have a letter from him sent around the time of this movie in the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones, which I just picked up and read, so maybe if they do Indy 5 we'll get him. I'd actually like to see Short Round meet Mutt...

"Don't call him grampa! You call him toctoh Chones!!"

[Joker]

That would have been great. He should have burst in and been like..."No time for love, Dr. Jones!" and then told them about needing help with some artifact, and they all could have ran off. That would have been EPIC.

[War Party]

That would have been great. He should have burst in and been like..."No time for love, Dr. Jones!" and then told them about needing help with some artifact, and they all could have ran off. That would have been EPIC.

Man I wish they of done that. Would of been too awesome. How old would he have been in the time line of the films at in Skull?

[The Amazing Lee]

About 32-35.

[Joker]

Yeah, if he was 10-13 in Temple of Doom, and this is slightly less than 20 years later, he would have been in his early to mid 30's. He'd have to have on a fedora like Indy's too, as in the Journal, Indy mentions that he's going to buy him a hat for Chinese new year.

Oh, another interesting thing from the journal, apparently the previous video games are in continuity too. So the Atlantis one and it's sequel both happened.

[Mister J]

Guys, I know the movie has been widely released, but (much like Cloverfield) we're asking that you make use of spoiler tags/blackout text for the larger revelations until this first weekend is over. This thing is drawing a lot of interest and we'd like to preserve the integrity of some detail for those still on the fence or unable to get to the cineplex early on. Thanks.

[JackBauer]

Dammit Lucas, forget that Clone Wars cartoon and just make Indiana Jones The Animated Series!! :cmad:

Seriously, look at the potential: set it between LC and KOTCS, and you can not only adapt Fate of Atlantis and Infernal Machine, but also The Iron Phoenix (comic book), AND expand on the references of that time mentioned in Crystal Skull.

[CrypticOne]

Anyone think there are going to be more Indy films? Does this one leave things open for another trilogy?

[Mister J]

Isn't Ford like 66? :funny:

I wouldn't dare check out an Indy film with someone other than him as the lead.

[블라스]

I seriously doubt they'll make another one. This one was like the perfect ending for the franchise.

[Rezzo]

Anyone think there are going to be more Indy films? Does this one leave things open for another trilogy?

I don't think there will be any more and the end kind of leaves it open for more.

[luke1234]

I seriously doubt they'll make another one. This one was like the perfect ending for the franchise.

it did have a good ending but i wouldnt mind seeing Shia take over and have Harrison Ford take over the Sean Connery role. Shia was a great addition to the franchise imo, he seems to get better and better in every role he plays

[CrypticOne]

I seriously doubt they'll make another one. This one was like the perfect ending for the franchise.

Yeah, but Lucas said in a interview that he wants to make this into a trilogy....I read it on here a couple days ago.

[JackBauer]

No more movies! Animated series dammit!! :cmad:

[Kakihara]

I just know Lucas had the idea for more Shia in the next films and Ford taking the backseat, ala Sean Connery, in possible next installments. Just a rumour...

[블라스]

Done in this style...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/indyanimated.jpg

[CrypticOne]

Done in this style...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/indyanimated.jpg

That'd be pretty awesome to see.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

That's pretty cool to know.

Temple is just different, really. None of the characters come back, and Indy is more like Han Solo at the beginning, and Willie Scott is annoying as hell.

There's no real globetroting either, from Shangai we go to India and stay there, so there's that James Bond-aspect that the first and third had that was missing from the second.

I guess it being a prequel has something to do with most of that, but in a nutshell...that's kinda all there is to it as far as why it's held differently than the others.

And yet...despite all that, despite Willie, despite the crazy as hell story, the insane first 15 minutes...I still think it's a good movie, certainly a good Indy movie at that. I still love it.

Hands down the funniest moment in that movie is when Indy punches that waitress.

For no reason at all, other than he wanted to punch her.

So, yeah. I've gotta think if I'm that big a fan of TOD, that the Crystal Skull should be fine with me.

And Short Round is awesome. He should totally comeback for the fifth, which I think should get made no matter what.

[CBG]

Anyone think there are going to be more Indy films? Does this one leave things open for another trilogy?

I thought that 5 movies was originally planned back then.

[JackBauer]

Done in this style...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/indyanimated.jpg

:up:

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http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6123/creamdog04bi9.jpg

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[RonStoppablefan]

I just know Lucas had the idea for more Shia in the next films and Ford taking the backseat, ala Sean Connery, in possible next installments. Just a rumour...

Hey that would be cool. I really enjoyed his character and do hope they make that happen. Any who I give this movie a 10, it was great. Loved the action and the hurmor was there too.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I just know Lucas had the idea for more Shia in the next films and Ford taking the backseat, ala Sean Connery, in possible next installments. Just a rumour...


I don't think that would happen. I can't see Speilberg going along with Lucas' idea ALL THE WAY.

To go and have Indy as the 2nd character would mean that they'd really have to set it up for that in the 4th.

Probably giving Mutt the hat and bullwhip physically, even, so that people will know what they're in for in the next one. Because you'll piss people off with calling it an Indy flick and it not starring Indy.

Yeah, but Lucas said in a interview that he wants to make this into a trilogy....I read it on here a couple days ago.

There will probably be another one.

I'm sure Spielberg is up for it.

And Ford says he'll continue to be Indy as long as they want.

And Lucas is in for it too.

So, really...as long as Spielberg will do it, it'll probably get done. Those three players are what really matter if you ask if they'll make a new one.

I'm sure the box office numbers and DVD sales will probably back it up too. Indy is still commerically viable. He's still popular and still sells.

So, I cannot see why NOT make a fifth.

[Gamma Ray]

I seriously doubt they'll make another one. This one was like the perfect ending for the franchise.


Yeah. Perfect way to destroy the franchise.

[turtlefocker]

BRING.

BACK.

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/7/4/1/74188de9b76ab404f9562ede1c085534.jpg

[Octoberist]

what happened to Mac's legs before he died. that bothered me because there's no reason for that.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So a fifth to end it on a high note?

Although, if they make a fifth...I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up becoming an all knew franchise with just it turning out to be six, seven, eight (with Shia taking the reigns eventually along the way...probably at six being his whole film).

I mean, they'd make money. I'm sure that's reason enough for some.

[Kakihara]

I don't think that would happen. I can't see Speilberg going along with Lucas' idea ALL THE WAY.

To go and have Indy as the 2nd character would mean that they'd really have to set it up for that in the 4th.

Probably giving Mutt the hat and bullwhip physically, even, so that people will know what they're in for in the next one. Because you'll piss people off with calling it an Indy flick and it not starring Indy.



There will probably be another one.

I'm sure Spielberg is up for it.

And Ford says he'll continue to be Indy as long as they want.

And Lucas is in for it too.

So, really...as long as Spielberg will do it, it'll probably get done. Those three players are what really matter if you ask if they'll make a new one.

I'm sure the box office numbers and DVD sales will probably back it up too. Indy is still commerically viable. He's still popular and still sells.

So, I cannot see why NOT make a fifth.

That's what I said when I first heard about all this alien BS in an Indy film. I was like, "Spielberg won't let that happen to Indiana Jones," but I was gravely wrong. :csad:

[samsnee]

Just finished watching it online. I thought it was good. A little jarring to see a ufo at the end, but as others have said, since it takes place in the 50s, I can see why they went that way.

I would put this ahead of LC and about the same as ToD. I think the fact that this is the first Indy movie in 20 years hurt it, because the pacing between movies made now and then is so different. I liked the slow boil of Raiders and LC. This one seemed too throw you right into it.

[Bim]

Just came back from watching it again, full room, and i gotta say, everyone seemed to be having a great time, even at the outrageous scenes.

I enjoyed it more the second time around, so my 9 still stands :)

[Cagefighterkip]

loved it :)

[Octoberist]

opps. sorry for not using the spoiler tags :(

[turtlefocker]

Just finished watching it online. I thought it was good. A little jarring to see a ufo at the end, but as others have said, since it takes place in the 50s, I can see why they went that way.

I would put this ahead of LC and about the same as ToD. I think the fact that this is the first Indy movie in 20 years hurt it, because the pacing between movies made now and then is so different. I liked the slow boil of Raiders and LC. This one seemed too throw you right into it.


**** you. You better ****ing go to the theater and pay to see this at some point.

[Octoberist]

i know. online? come on. it's a movie going experience.

[War Party]

Any news on what the midnight box office was like?

[mathhater]

Wow. I just got back from seeing it. I'm in a state of shock right now. I truly TRULY despised this film. I can't think of a word right now strong enough to express this...I mean, this was a god-awful piece of crap. It almost became the first movie I've ever walked out of.

I was in such of a suck-induced haze afterwards that I almost got hit by a car. This movie literally almost killed me.

Just....:wow:

My gripe? "Indiana Jones" is cool, and science fiction is cool. But combining the two? Ugh.

[Browncoat]

Just finished watching it online.

:down

[turtlefocker]

Any news on what the midnight box office was like?

rumor is around 45-50

[Octoberist]

Wow. I just got back from seeing it. I'm in a state of shock right now. I mean, I truly TRULY despised this film. I can't think of a word right now strong enough to express this...I mean, this was a god-awful piece of crap. It almost became the first movie I've ever walked out of.

I was in such of a suck-induced haze afterwards that I almost got hit by a car. This movie literally almost killed me.

Just....:wow:

My gripe? "Indiana Jones" is cool, and science fiction is cool. But combining the two? Ugh.

I need to see it again. but i had the same reaction.

[The Man of Steel]

this movie rocked

[War Party]

You got problems if a movie really affected you that way. But I'm sure you're just exaggerating.

[The Man of Steel]

Probably

[Stevens25]

Personally,I loved the first 20-25 minutes.The whole Indy surviving a nuclear blast was a bit much to swallow,but one of my favorite moments is when Indy is escaping the warehouse in that truck and as he's driving out the door we see a broken open crate. And inside of it? The Ark of the covenant.:woot:

[Untilteld]

BRING.

BACK.

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/7/4/1/74188de9b76ab404f9562ede1c085534.jpg

I loved Short Round.

"Dr. Jones!"

[mathhater]

You got problems if a movie really affected you that way. But I'm sure you're just exaggerating.

Well I'm walking outside the theater's parking lot, just thinking to myself about how much I hated the movie, and I didn't notice the car approaching the parking space I was apparantly blocking.

(But maybe that's just my normal stupidity, but given the circumstances, I'm blaming the movie.)

[War Party]

And I'm sorry and know it's people's opinions. But if you look at it from a strictly film making point of view, this movie doesn't deserve a 10 or a 1. And that goes for all movies, even the really terrible films. The majority of films shouldn't get ratings like that. I seriously would like to see what people would rate it without involving their emotions after seeing it.

[turtlefocker]

:down

i know. online? come on. it's a movie going experience.

Not only that, it's disrespectful to the film-makers.

I'm cool with people downloading it for repeat viewings just until the DVD comes out but this kinda **** is bad for cinema.

[Octoberist]

And I'm sorry and know it's people's opinions. But if you look at it from a strictly film making point of view, this movie doesn't deserve a 10 or a 1. And that goes for all movies, even the really terrible films. The majority of films shouldn't get ratings like that. I seriously would like to see what people would rate it without involving their emotions. after seeing it.

people are just crazy. that's all.

[mathhater]

I need to see it again. but i had the same reaction.

At least I'm glad I'm not the only one...disappointed.

[PWN3R]

Saw it last night, man oh man does Ford still have it or what?Surprisingly Shia held his own, I dug is character, quite a lot actually. One of my favorite scenes was the Mutt/Indy/Russian University chase.

To be honest I think the third act was a little weak, and perhaps too sci-fi, but it's supposed to be set during a time when aliens were all the rage, so I can understand. I still think hinting that aliens were on earth at one time is so impossibly cool, but to go ahead and actually reveal them....that takes away from the fun and mystery of it all.

I enjoyed myself, it was a pretty cool thing to see Indiana Jones in theaters, definitely going again.

Oh yes and the Blanchettt? Furiously hot.:hehe:

:indy:

[Octoberist]

i'm surprised that Shia didn't hit on Blanchett's character.

[War Party]

Nothing to do with Crystal Skull, but I love this little kid:

PDXBt7bRzvI

[PWN3R]

Nothing to do with Crystal Skull, but I love this little kid:

PDXBt7bRzvI

That's mesmerizing:grin:

[Bim]

:hehe: gotta love Short Round "Hey lady, u call him Doctoh Jones!" :hehe:

[Drizzle]

**** you. You better ****ing go to the theater and pay to see this at some point.
Who are you to tell him what to do?

[EML]

Not a criminal...?

[Jack Napier]

I intend to see the film again, but I really am half-sold on it. The beginning was awesome, and the middle wasn't so bad either.

What really irritated me was not that Mutt is Indy's son, but that there was no time to develop the relationship between the two. With Marion either. Rather than have the Tarzan vine sequence or THREE waterfalls, why not slow the movie down for a couple of minutes and have the characters interact? And I don't have a problem with CGI, but this series was built on the best stunts, and there wasn't enough.

As for the rumors of Shia taking over the franchise, I have to say, thanks but no thanks. Mutt Williams was an okay character, but he showcases nothing that can upgrade Harrison Ford. Does anyone else think Eagle Eye is meant to condition us to think of Shia as a credible action hero? I heard he's gained 20 lbs. of muscle since filming "Crystal Skull".

[Drizzle]

Not a criminal...?
It's not a crime to watch movies for free online. It's a crime to actually videotape the damn thing in the theater and sell the bootlegs.

[Gamma Ray]

They should have used the boat ride as an opportunity to talk (like Indy and his dad in the blimp), instead of putting more action in. And it wasn't even good action.

[EML]

It's not a crime to watch movies for free online. It's a crime to actually videotape the damn thing in the theater and sell the bootlegs.

Wrong.

[GhostPoet]

OK, I want to see this movie again. And I almost never do that with movies!!!
Awesome Indy flick. Harrison Ford still has it....I thought maybe Indy would appear haggard and lifeless...but he totally brought Indy back to life.

[Drizzle]

Wrong.
Prove it.

[GhostPoet]

It's not a crime to watch movies for free online. It's a crime to actually videotape the damn thing in the theater and sell the bootlegs.

Oh and...actually it IS illegal to view even. Infact, studios will often put out copies of their own movies in bittorrent that has a tracking key which allows them to know who downloaded the movie and then send them a letter/email giving them a cease and desist order OR taking legal action against you.

I know from personal experience.

Besides, everyone worked hard to make the film...the least we can do is pay to watch it.

[Gamma Ray]

Oh and...actually it IS illegal to view even. Infact, studios will often put out copies of their own movies in bittorrent that has a tracking key which allows them to know who downloaded the movie and then send them a letter/email giving them a cease and desist order OR taking legal action against you.

I know from personal experience.

Besides, everyone worked hard to make the film...the least we can do is pay to watch it.

That's baiting and I'm sure they wouldn't be able to do anything in court.

[EML]

Prove it.

It's illegal to download or upload films that you do not have the copyright to.

[Rezzo]

I'll be going to see it again next week and I'm hoping my second viewing will be even better than the first. :up:

[Drizzle]

Oh and...actually it IS illegal to view even. Infact, studios will often put out copies of their own movies in bittorrent that has a tracking key which allows them to know who downloaded the movie and then send them a letter/email giving them a cease and desist order OR taking legal action against you.

I know from personal experience.

Besides, everyone worked hard to make the film...the least we can do is pay to watch it.

Okay. Thank you for the explanation. Much better than a simple "wrong". I didn't know that, but I guess that's because I don't download torrents.

[bullets]

:hehe: gotta love Short Round "Hey lady, u call him Doctoh Jones!" :hehe:





Yeah Short Round was cool . I don't care what they say I would like to see a cameo of him in the fifth . The only problem is that he really couldn't
be that same type of character . It would still be something I would enjoy.

[EML]

That's baiting and I'm sure they wouldn't be able to do anything in court.

Sure they can. The fact that the downloader downloaded the tracked movie is evidence enough to at least warrant a search for other copyright protected material in their possession.

[cerealkiller182]

As for the rumors of Shia taking over the franchise, I have to say, thanks but no thanks. Mutt Williams was an okay character, but he showcases nothing that can upgrade Harrison Ford. Does anyone else think Eagle Eye is meant to condition us to think of Shia as a credible action hero? I heard he's gained 20 lbs. of muscle since filming "Crystal Skull".

No, the director seems to want to make shia is "Bobby Deniro"

Disturbia, Eagle Eye, and hes pulling for his as Yorick in Y the Last Man


I liked the movie but obviously I had some problems:


1. Mutt as Indy's son. The idea never bothered me and I like Shia but I was almost certain that they werent going that route since their was immediate negative buzz with the casting of Shia.

2. The alien concept is great but the actual alien was dull and lame. I feel the whole concept could be more ambiguous.

3. CGI doesnt bother me, most of it I thought worked in this movie, but I still wanted more stunt work.

4. The Tarzan thing was kinda lame.

5. The wedding ending wasnt the best route, but I loved the symbolism of Mutt trying the hat but Indy stopping him. I think that symbolizes most fans feelings towards replacement. They neither want Harrison or Indiana replaced with another actor of Mutt. Although I wouldnt mind seeinga Mutt movie I would vote against it in general.

6. The red ants worked until they did an ant-pyramid to reach Spalko.

7. 3 waterfalls is a bit much

Some of these things I could have done without but overall didnt hurt my movie going experience

[The Man of Steel]

I'm going to see it again tomorrow

[EML]

Okay. Thank you for the explanation. Much better than a simple "wrong". I didn't know that, but I guess that's because I don't download torrents.

:whatever:

[cerealkiller182]

Sure they can. The fact that the downloader downloaded the tracked movie is evidence enough to at least warrant a search for other copyright protected material in their possession.

yeah, I heard HBO was doing so with torrents of their original TV shows

[EML]

No, the director seems to want to make shia is "Bobby Deniro"

Disturbia, Eagle Eye, and hes pulling for his as Yorick in Y the Last Man




And Spielberg is making him the new Tom Hanks, lol.

[bullets]

Done in this style...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/indyanimated.jpg




i really dig that animation . they could make a good prequel

[The Man of Steel]

That'd be a great idea

[EML]

That'd be a great idea

So are you employed by Paramount, Lucasfilm or what?

[Secret_Riddle]

Why the hell did I just leave an Indiana Jones movie thinking hey, that was pretty decent?

This movies not great, its good, but a shadow of the other three, they missed the mark fully and although I'm sure time will mold this one in with the other three, right now it sticks out like a sore thumb, so get ready for the weirdest positive, yet shockingly disappointed review you've ever read.

I wanted and fully expected to love this movie and my expectations were in check, I wanted an Indiana Jones movie.

What i got was a decent summer action movie that progressively worsened as it went on. My expectations were to high? Yah right, don't blame lazy writing, and tired film making on my expectations. Indy 4 needed to progress the formula, add an aspect to it, like ToD and LC did, instead this feels like a Frankenstein movie made using parts of the the original trilogy while failing to be unique.

Indiana Jones 4 is nothing more then a reunion of characters, it imitates the best moments from each of the three movies, but does none of them as well. It manages one moment of genuine excitement while constantly reminding us that Indys best days are a thing of the past, and finally it hits you "this isn't as good as the other ones." The 50's, lets face it, didn't fit the character as snuggly as the 30's did, and it made for a less interesting film IMO.

It's far from great. Critics are eating this stuff up, but in my eyes, it barely earns the rating of "good".

You know what the worst thing is? It finally made me appreciate how good the ending to Last Crusade was. Crystal Skull just felt like some half hearted "but wait, theres more".


Yes obviously Indiana Jones had more adventures but sometimes these things are better left to the fans imagination.

Honestly, Steven Spielberg said he made this for the fans and he did, but he forgot why the fans love Indy, he also forgot how important inspiration is. Indy 4 is a bunch of muddled feelings from the previous 3 all bunched into one movie that has a plot which is on par but clearly the weakest in the series. The lack of an identity, and the feeling of been there done that, but it was better then, makes this movie feel like an imitation. It feels like some 12 year old tried to write an Indy movie based off a pretty nifty plot he picked up somewhere, but because 12 year olds hardly LACK THE THOUGHT TO CREATE 200 MILLION DOLLAR MOVIES, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE LEFT TO PEOPLE LIKE SPIELBERG...oh wait. I'm not hating on Spielberg, I just get the vibe that he was rather uninspired with this one.

Anyway, you'll like Crystal Skull, but you wont love it, and youll feel as if you don't really know what to say about it other then..well i kinda liked it.

I give it a 7/10, and I know that the beautiful heartfelt Indy 4 I had in my head will never be realized, and now, probably for the best. I don't know if it will be better on a second viewing, it may be, but I don't think I'll ever put this on par with the others.

Indy 4 doesnt butcher the franchise like Spider-Man 3 did, in fact it manages to be a well done heartless mindless action flick, but thats not Indiana Jones, and thats really the only criticism I have. There were some great scenes GREAT, but none added up to anything more then a weak Indy movie, THE weakest Indy movie.

Time to hang up the fedora bud.

[The Man of Steel]

So are you employed by Paramount, Lucasfilm or what?
I'm Undercover ;)

[co2]

I intend to see the film again, but I really am half-sold on it. The beginning was awesome, and the middle wasn't so bad either.

What really irritated me was not that Mutt is Indy's son, but that there was no time to develop the relationship between the two. With Marion either. Rather than have the Tarzan vine sequence or THREE waterfalls, why not slow the movie down for a couple of minutes and have the characters interact? And I don't have a problem with CGI, but this series was built on the best stunts, and there wasn't enough.

As for the rumors of Shia taking over the franchise, I have to say, thanks but no thanks. Mutt Williams was an okay character, but he showcases nothing that can upgrade Harrison Ford. Does anyone else think Eagle Eye is meant to condition us to think of Shia as a credible action hero? I heard he's gained 20 lbs. of muscle since filming "Crystal Skull".

I agree with almost all of your sentiments. It wasn't a match for any of the originals, but it wasn't bad and certainly not as bad as word on the street has been making it sound.
I agree that the beginning was awesome. The whole portion of the film in Nevada was great. I didn't know what the plot of the movie was going to be, so in the beginning when it became clear to me that they were using the whole Roswell thing, I became rather excited because I thought that was an unexpected turn. I really liked how they intergrated it into the Cold War era 50's. Russians instead of Nazi worked just fine, the A-bomb test in the desert..I liked that whole first segment of the film. As it went along it lost just a little something and went a bit overboard at the end. It's not good enough to get me to go to the theater again, but it was entertaining none-the-less.
I think expectations are just way too high for this one and that is going to hurt some opinions.

[EML]

And so very subtley

[The Man of Steel]

That's my job ma'am :woot:

[Joker]

6. The red ants worked until they did an ant-pyramid to reach Spalko.


That type of ant can actually do that. Cracked.com has a list of the most terrifying bugs a while back, and one of them was the giant ant that lives in the rainforest. They can not only form ladders using themselves, but can jump long distances too.

[EML]

That's my job ma'am :woot:

...ma'am? :cmad:

[The Man of Steel]

lol :funny: just kiding

[co2]

Yes obviously Indiana Jones had more adventures but sometimes these things are better left to the fans imagination.


That's actually a wise statement. Fans may be wanting more, but people don't always want what is best. Sometimes it's best just to let the character contimue to exist in the fans imagination rather than returning to the well...only to find it is dry.

[Shifty]

That would have been great. He should have burst in and been like..."No time for love, Dr. Jones!" and then told them about needing help with some artifact, and they all could have ran off. That would have been EPIC.

The opening sequence in the fifth could wrap up that adventure.

The ending
nobody thought that they should've brought in Short Round or Sallah? The budget was too tight to pay a day's worth of work for any of those actors? Ox and Jim Broadbent were there, who **** cares that they were there. They mean nothing. Indiana Jones finally gets married and after all the travels he's had there is only a small turnout?But other than that I thought it was a terrific ending considering where Raiders ended.

[Joker]

The opening sequence in the fifth could wrap up that adventure.

The ending
nobody thought that they should've brought in Short Round or Sallah? The budget was too tight to pay a day's worth of work for any of those actors? Ox and Jim Broadbent were there, who **** cares that they were there. They mean nothing. Indiana Jones finally gets married and after all the travels he's had there is only a small turnout?But other than that I thought it was a terrific ending considering where Raiders ended.

Sallah definitely should have been there. But who knows, maybe they got married almost as soon as they got back. They never say how much time passed there. It could have been within the week, and Sallah might not have been able to make it. But I want Short Round, damn it :cmad:

[Chaos Bringer]

really felt like a kid again - but only during some parts of the film. some of the action is so over the top i kept expecting the road runner to pop outta nowhere and do his thing.

s p o i l e r s so skip the below if you wanna know nada;




aliens? i'm not sure about this.
the 1st ten minutes were so ridiculous the film almost lost me but BLAMMO went into proper indy mode soon as he crawled out of the refrigerator.
the music is awesomesauce.
why wasn't sean connery in this ?
looked like lucas and the 'berg might have debated over a scene or three. some looked like george, others like classic steven but the film is a bit all over the place.

doesn't suck and is value for the $.
7/10

[bullets]

That's actually a wise statement. Fans may be wanting more, but people don't always want what is best. Sometimes it's best just to let the character contimue to exist in the fans imagination rather than returning to the well...only to find it is dry.


its because fans add a whole new dimension to the character in their mind of who he should be and what should happen . georgle lucas believes that no matter how good he had made phantom menace he would of still left some people dissapointed.

[cerealkiller182]

That type of ant can actually do that. Cracked.com has a list of the most terrifying bugs a while back, and one of them was the giant ant that lives in the rainforest. They can not only form ladders using themselves, but can jump long distances too.

I'll buy that, but to the uninitiated it definitely comes off kinda weird. This is one aspect of the film they should have released ambiguosly.

"We studied lots of rainforest creatures and found an insect with an interesting talent."

Something like that. I guess in the long run its no big deal. But it was just weird.

[Secret_Riddle]

Well the thing about the new Indy, and perhaps the worst thing is..its just so tired. It's not bad, its still Spielberg, but it's also no longer as fresh or..well..good as it once was. I mean my review pretty much covered it all.

[Marx]

It was good, but not great. I had really high expectations...maybe that's my own fault. I'm a little disappointed.

THAT scene right before the end I could have done without. (Anyone who has seen the movie, knows which one I am talking about. The entire theater that I was in let out a collective moan...)

[War Party]

So everyone moaned in unison? I wish I could of seen that.

[Secret_Riddle]

The cinematography also was different..not necessarily better or worse, but definitely different. It didn't feel like Indy.

[cerealkiller182]

THAT scene right before the end I could have done without. (Anyone who has seen the movie, knows which one I am talking about. The entire theater that I was in let out a collective moan...)

the wedding in general or Shia's hat. The wedding was weak but the hat scene was kinda funny

[TLH]

Wow, lots of mixed reviews.

[co2]

its because fans add a whole new dimension to the character in their mind of who he should be and what should happen . georgle lucas believes that no matter how good he had made phantom menace he would of still left some people dissapointed.

I think it's actually the exact opposite. Fans don't add anything because they want to return to the character as it has existed in their memory for so long...so when film makers try to give it to them, people then realize that it will never be the same as how they remember..and that's how the disapointment begins.
We are on a comic book movie board after all and examples of this are in almost every thread.