Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

terminal was lame, yeah. It's a 30 min tv episode stretched out to be a movie.

and it was still better than some crap released that year.

lol

:D

[The Kid]

Hell, this year too. Spielberg at his worst is still better than most of what we get.

[Dark Donnie]

Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" was a horrible movie,with Dakota Fanning screaming every second and Tom Cruise's presence just making you sick,but hopefully this movie will be the movie that has Speilberg making great movies once again.

Have you seen Munich?

[Cinemaman]

yeah Spielberg kinda hit a rut lately, somehow he lost his magic.

maybe that's what he's trying to recapture: he's doing an Indiana Jones movie and he'll be bringing a "live animation" version of Rin Tin Tin to the big screen.

Don't forget about such intersting projects like Interstellar (pre-production, Jonathan Nolan is still working on script) and Lincoln (I guess it was frozen).

[GoldGoblin]

Have you seen Munich?

^
Yep,I loved that movie.

[Cinemaman]

I will watch this flick no matter what. It will either look great or look like ****. I'm watching this regardless. I need to see if they can still pull of an Indy flick.

Plus it has Ray Winstone who I rank pretty high in my ''most awesome actors ever'' list.

Agreed, I hope Spielberg will prove that not every franchise can be finished with trilogy (Lucas tried to do that, but his Prequels were awful) :)

Besides, his last film (Munich) didn't make me doubt in Spielberg still being the best filmmaker ever :up:

And why everybody forgot about Catch Me, If You Can? I think it was a great movie (of course, not the best Spielberg's one, but still great) :confused:

[Spider-Fan]

I will see it opening day also, but I don't expect to do anything but suck. It is too long between movies, Ford is too old, and Lucas and has gone insane with what makes quality. Even Spielberg's movies are not as good as they used to be (Munich being an exception).

He is still a great director, though. If this is good, he is the reason it will work.

[Hunter Rider]

And why everybody forgot about Catch Me, If You Can? I think it was a great movie (of course, not the best Spielberg's one, but still great) :confused:

Good call Cine,that film was great and had the light touch and sense of fun mixed with drama and set pieces that shows he still has an Indy in him and if Ford can be as badass as Connery was in The Rock in his 60's i have no worries about his age

[Spider-Fan]

Catch Me If You Can was great, also.

However, this is not only a Spielberg production, remember. That is enough cause for concern.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I loved Terminal. It was like a old fashion comedy from the 50's. And Tom was great in that. Catherine Zeta Jones though....what a *****

[Cinemaman]

Good call Cine,that film was great and had the light touch and sense of fun mixed with drama and set pieces that shows he still has an Indy in him and if Ford can be as badass as Connery was in The Rock in his 60's i have no worries about his age

Exactly, so it also doesn't make any sense for me why Spielberg can't do his magic of 70s-80s again? He always was #1 in Hollywood (and not only in directing movies) :up:

[Cinemaman]

Catch Me If You Can was great, also.

However, this is not only a Spielberg production, remember. That is enough cause for concern.

What you mean? He was the only one, who directed it :confused:

[Spider-Fan]

What you mean? He was the only one, who directed it :confused:

Talking about Indiana Jones 4, not Catch Me If You Can...Lucas is involved, so he has input here.

[chaseter]

I just hope they don't go overboard with CGI for this movie.

[Spider-Fan]

I just hope they don't go overboard with CGI for this movie.

I have a huge fear that they might. His name is George Lucas.

[Cinemaman]

Talking about Indiana Jones 4, not Catch Me If You Can...Lucas is involved, so he has input here.

Are you sure?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0367882/

Spielberg stays as the only director of this movie.

[Hunter Rider]

Exactly, so it also doesn't make any sense for me why Spielberg can't do his magic of 70s-80s again? He always was #1 in Hollywood (and not only in directing movies) :up:

I'm with ya Cine,my hopes are high for this one for now:up:

Talking about Indiana Jones 4, not Catch Me If You Can...Lucas is involved, so he has input here.

I'll preface this by saying i like a lot of the prequels but the deal was always that Indy 4 would only happen if all 3 main players were on the same page and i doubt Spielberg gave into a poor script b/c it's not like he needs the work

[Spider-Fan]

Are you sure?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0367882/

Spielberg stays as the only director of this movie.

I never said Lucas was a director.

Lucas is still a producer...so he will influence Spielberg.

[Spider-Fan]

I'm with ya Cine,my hopes are high for this one for now:up:



I'll preface this by saying i like a lot of the prequels but the deal was always that Indy 4 would only happen if all 3 main players were on the same page and i doubt Spielberg gave into a poor script b/c it's not like he needs the work

I think for this he would. Indiana Jones has been his series, and I doubt he would have let someone else finish it for him.

[Hunter Rider]

I think for this he would. Indiana Jones has been his series, and I doubt he would have let someone else finish it for him.

I actually edited my post after you quoted,what i meant to say was i don't think Spielberg is so desperate to make an Indy movie that he'd take any hotchpotch script,here he is director and set boss,Lucas will be on set as a producer and is a guy that has come up with some great ideas,with Spielberg filtering them i am not worried

[Cinemaman]

I'm with ya Cine,my hopes are high for this one for now:up:



I'll preface this by saying i like a lot of the prequels but the deal was always that Indy 4 would only happen if all 3 main players were on the same page and i doubt Spielberg gave into a poor script b/c it's not like he needs the work

Thank you, master Kenobi :D :up:

Agreed, Lucas has always been the part of Indy's crew. besides, I doubt Spielberg will let Lucast to control him ;)

[Spider-Fan]

I am not as confident. Lucas was once a man of ideas, but Episodes I and II and various aspects of III show he has lost a lot of his inspiration.

[chaseter]

Oh God...SF just made me realize Lucas is going to have a lot of say in this one...noticing his recent streak of crap.

[Spider-Fan]

I don't like being the bearer of bad news, but I am also a realist. While I wish I could have faith in this production, I just can't. The first three are classics, and I doubt this will even if it achieves best case scenario.

[Hunter Rider]

Thank you, master Kenobi :D :up:

Agreed, Lucas has always been the part of Indy's crew. besides, I doubt Spielberg will let Lucast to control him ;)

:D:up:

That's what i'm thinking and Lucas still has good in him,i feel the presence:woot:

[Hunter Rider]

I am not as confident. Lucas was once a man of ideas, but Episodes I and II and various aspects of III show he has lost a lot of his inspiration.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here SF as i liked II and III myself:yay:

[Cinemaman]

I am not as confident. Lucas was once a man of ideas, but Episodes I and II and various aspects of III show he has lost a lot of his inspiration.

The same here, I also have doubts and worries about this film as every another fan of Indy franchise. But i believe it will grow on people and turn out as good enough film to be count as a part of 80s trilogy. Everything can happen, it can become either good or bad. But I hope the asnwer will be the first one :)

[Cinemaman]

:D:up:

That's what i'm thinking and Lucas still has good in him,i feel the presence:woot:

LOL!!! :up:

Gearoge Lucas=Darth Vader :eek: I knew that! :D

[Spider-Fan]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here SF as i liked II and III myself:yay:

I liked Episode III, but a lot of things bugged me about it. It could have been great, but it fell into the prequel trap and made too many bad cameo moments, bad effects at times, and weak character moments. I still enjoyed it though. I feel if it was directed by someone else, it could have been great. Lucas' direction brings it down at certain points.

Now, Episode II I hated.

[Hunter Rider]

LOL!!! :up:

Gearoge Lucas=Darth Vader :eek: I knew that! :D

We can save him Cine!:wow:you grab his helmet and I'll unplug his breathing apparatus:woot:

I liked Episode III, but a lot of things bugged me about it. It could have been great, but it fell into the prequel trap and made too many bad cameo moments, bad effects at times, and weak character moments. I still enjoyed it though. I feel if it was directed by someone else, it could have been great. Lucas brings it down at certain points.

Now, Episode II I hated.

That's fair enough man,i'm not looking to change ya mind,hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised when the trailer arrives in November:cwink:

[Spider-Fan]

:D:up:

That's what i'm thinking and Lucas still has good in him,i feel the presence:woot:

Gone his creative side is, consumed by greed he is.

[Eros]

well Im pretty sure Lucas has alot more say then Steven[ Lucas created the character] Spielberg will only change something he feels is dumb during actual shooting [like the case in the first movie]. Is Lucas writing the screenplay to?

[Spider-Fan]

We can save him Cine!:wow:you grab his helmet and I'll unplug his breathing apparatus:woot:



That's fair enough man,i'm not looking to change ya mind,hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised when the trailer arrives in November:cwink:

I hope this is as great as the others are. I love this franchise, and another great installment would be great.

However, with the time between these movies, I believe capturing that magic will be a major chore. These are not the same men that did the previous three. Both have changed in different ways, as evidenced by their more recent endeavors.

We have three classics, and this won't ruin the others even if it is terrible, but I was not a person who demanded it get made. I could have lived without it.

But still, I hope for the best.

[Spider-Fan]

well Im pretty sure Lucas has alot more say then Steven[ Lucas created the character] Spielberg will only change something he feels is dumb during actual shooting [like the case in the first movie]. Is Lucas writing the screenplay to?

I think David Koepp did. Am I right?

[Cinemaman]

We can save him Cine!:wow:you grab his helmet and I'll unplug his breathing apparatus:woot:



That's fair enough man,i'm not looking to change ya mind,hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised when the trailer arrives in November:cwink:

:up: I bet he'll tell me the truth, we just need a bat and everything is done ;)

[Hunter Rider]

I hope this is as great as the others are. I love this franchise, and another great installment would be great.

However, with the time between these movies, I believe capturing that magic will be a major chore. These are not the same men that did the previous three. Both have changed in different ways, as evidenced by their more recent endeavors.

We have three classics, and this won't ruin the others even if it is terrible, but I was not a person who demanded it get made. I could have lived without it.

But still, I hope for the best.

To be honest i could have lived without another one,i had said for a long time that there was no point now and it would just be a waste of time but i can't help my inner fanboy getting hyped for an Indy movie and i am just naturally optimistic with films

I think David Koepp did. Am I right?

Yep and it seems he basically worked from Darabonts original

[Hunter Rider]

:up: I bet he'll tell me the truth, we just need a bat and everything is done ;)

:woot:We can use one of those electric devices they used on Han in ESB:ninja:

[Cinemaman]

I think David Koepp did. Am I right?

Yep, also Lucas was the one, who confirmed the script.

[Cinemaman]

:woot:We can use one of those electric devices they used on Han in ESB:ninja:

Damn it, you're right!

*5 minutes later*

Darth Lucas: Cine, I am your father!

Cine: Oh c'mon, who would believe that. You're not George Lucas, the real Lucas would say "Lets make prequel to E.T. as quickly as Universal still has the rights" :( :down

:D

[Spider-Fan]

To be honest i could have lived without another one,i had said for a long time that there was no point now and it would just be a waste of time but i can't help my inner fanboy getting hyped for an Indy movie and i am just naturally optimistic with films



I would be optimistic, but I have to question the motive behind bringing Indy back (especially with Lucas' recent track record). Is this because there is a story they feel must be told, or is it to cash in on the bloated BO totals big movies get now? Is it artistic or economic? Of course economics is part of it, but art must also be part of the decision if the movie is to be good, and I am not sure it is at this point.

The other movies had great stories to coincide with the draw, and with the long wait and sudden ressurection, I must ask whether this has the creativity behind it the others did.

[Hunter Rider]

Damn it, you're right!

*5 minutes later*

Darth Lucas: Cine, I am your father!

Cine: Oh c'mon, who would believe that. You're not George Lucas, the real Lucas would say "Lets make prequel to E.T. as quickly as Universal still has the rights" :( :down

:D

LMAOhttp://valboard.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/valboard/emo-24.gif

Classic Cine:up:

[Spider-Fan]

Damn it, you're right!

*5 minutes later*

Darth Lucas: Cine, I am your father!

Cine: Oh c'mon, who would believe that. You're not George Lucas, the real Lucas would say "Lets make prequel to E.T. as quickly as Universal still has the rights" :( :down

:D

LOL, that is hilarious.

[Hunter Rider]

I would be optimistic, but I have to question the motive behind bringing Indy back (especially with Lucas' recent track record). Is this because there is a story they feel must be told, or is it to cash in on the bloated BO totals big movies get now? Is it artistic or economic? Of course economics is part of it, but art must also be part of the decision if the movie is to be good, and I am not sure it is at this point.

The other movies had great stories to coincide with the draw, and with the long wait and sudden ressurection, I must ask whether this has the creativity behind it the others did.

In Fords case i'd question if he just really wants another hit b/c his star is fading but with the other two i think it's just something they want to do,Spielberg has no end of top line projects he could do and make cash and Lucas has so much already and so many various SW projects in the pipe that i doubt he'd exhaust the money and energy making this movie for money reasons........maybe i am to un-cynical but i think these guys just want to recapture time gone by and have one last hurrah,perhaps show these new boys on the block how it's done:cwink:

[AssMan]

I think David Koepp did. Am I right?

All 3 Lucas, Ford & Speilberg had to agree on a script. No matter who wrote it they would not have done the movie without Lucas's okay

[Cinemaman]

LMAOhttp://valboard.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/valboard/emo-24.gif

Classic Cine:up:

Thanks :D :up:

BTW, where did you get this smile? :yay:

[Cinemaman]

LOL, that is hilarious.

Thanks :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks :D :up:

BTW, where did you get this smile? :yay:

It's from YIM,sadly not on the hype:csad:

[Spider-Fan]

In Fords case i'd question if he just really wants another hit b/c his star is fading but with the other two i think it's just something they want to do,Spielberg has no end of top line projects he could do and make cash and Lucas has so much already and so many various SW projects in the pipe that i doubt he'd exhaust the money and energy making this movie for money reasons........maybe i am to un-cynical but i think these guys just want to recapture time gone by and have one last hurrah,perhaps show these new boys on the block how it's done:cwink:

Lucas knows Star Wars is a cash cow, and I am wondering if he wants to cash in on Indy again with the more money that is too be made in big summer movies. See if he can't find another property he can exploit for opscene amounts of money. I am not sure Lucas could ever have enough.

As for Spielberg, I believe he just wouldn't want someone to finish what he started.

Ford is definately in this to get his name out again though. He has not done much recently, at least that was good).

I wouldn't call my view cynical, but extremely skeptical is very accurate.

[Cinemaman]

In Fords case i'd question if he just really wants another hit b/c his star is fading but with the other two i think it's just something they want to do,Spielberg has no end of top line projects he could do and make cash and Lucas has so much already and so many various SW projects in the pipe that i doubt he'd exhaust the money and energy making this movie for money reasons........maybe i am to un-cynical but i think these guys just want to recapture time gone by and have one last hurrah,perhaps show these new boys on the block how it's done:cwink:

Now this makes sense. I also don't understand why would both Lucas and Spielbergs a.k.a. as the richest filmmakers in Hollywood need to make Indy 4 for money, which they already got :up:

[Spider-Fan]

All 3 Lucas, Ford & Speilberg had to agree on a script. No matter who wrote it they would not have done the movie without Lucas's okay

I knew that, but I was answering someone else's question. Just wanted to make sure I had the correct writer (this production has cycled through many).

[Cinemaman]

It's from YIM,sadly not on the hype:csad:

I love SHH! Forum, but it really needs some improvement in smiles' categories :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Lucas knows Star Wars is a cash cow, and I am wondering if he wants to cash in on Indy again with the more money that is too be made in big summer movies. See if he can't find another property he can exploit for opscene amounts of money. I am not sure Lucas could ever have enough.

As for Spielberg, I believe he just wouldn't want someone to finish what he started.

I wouldn't call my view cynical, but extremely skeptical is very accurate.

Outside of the movie BO i don't think Indy has anywhere near the revenue potential SW has and well i don't feel that way about Lucas in general but that's another debate

The thing here is no one else was ever gonna finish it if Spielberg didn't,they had an agreement that stated unless all 3 signed off on a script it wouldn't get made,now IMO that means Spielberg would not have went ahead with this if he thought Lucas was doing as you suggest and also i think it's unlikely he would just flush Indy away for any reason.

This is a surefire hit but i am sure they all want it to be good as well

[Hunter Rider]

Now this makes sense. I also don't understand why would both Lucas and Spielbergs a.k.a. as the richest filmmakers in Hollywood need to make Indy 4 for money, which they already got :up:

That's my feeling on it,i think it's the 3 guys that trailblazed the blockbuster wanting one last run at it,see if they can still match the new breed

I love SHH! Forum, but it really needs some improvement in smiles' categories :up:

Agreed,i want an IM one:cmad::woot:

[Cinemaman]

That's my feeling on it,i think it's the 3 guys that trailblazed the blockbuster wanting one last run at it,see if they can still match the new breed



Agreed,i want an IM one:cmad::woot:

An IM smile would be a great idea. Also, I wouldn't mind to get more of general smiles (like the one, which has been posted by you in this thread) :up:

[Cinemaman]

Still, I can't understand all this hatred to Lucas. Yes, his prequels were terribel, but he is still good filmmaker. He turned crappy tale into the beginning of one of the most famous movie franchises ever and now he just wants to work again with Spielberg and to return Indy to the audience of new generation.

And BTW, if he needed money, he wouldn't give $100m to the University of Southern California.

[Eros]

true that C-man.

[L0ngsh0t]

Still, I can't understand all this hatred to Lucas. Yes, his prequels were terribel, but he is still good filmmaker. He turned crappy tale into the beginning of one of the most famous movie franchises ever and now he just wants to work again with Spielberg and to return Indy to the audience of new generation.

And BTW, if he needed money, he wouldn't give $100m to the University of Southern California.


I think AtotC and ROTS are both better than Jedi, but whatever

what is the word on this movie I haven't been to up to task on it yet

i know of casting, is there any plot rumors, bad guy, or trailer news?

[Spider-Fan]

Like I said about Lucas, he once had great artistic vision. Once he started to become more business oriented, he lost it. This is seen with the prequels and his desire to send off a lot of his ideas to other directors. Heck, he even says he didn't want to do the prequels himself.

Like I said on this movie, we shall see, but these are all different people. You can see it in their endeavors. Capturing the magic of this series after all this time away from it will be extremely difficult, and I don't think they can anymore. Maybe 8 years ago, but I don't see it now.

Like I said before, I hope I am wrong, but that is just how I see it.

[TwilightPro101]

I'm with you Spider-fan. I'm just hoping that it goes well with this sequel.

[Hunter Rider]

I think AtotC and ROTS are both better than Jedi, but whatever

what is the word on this movie I haven't been to up to task on it yet

i know of casting, is there any plot rumors, bad guy, or trailer news?

First trailer is due in November,this post here will give you all the latest plot and villain details we know so far


http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=11712019&postcount=728

[L0ngsh0t]

First trailer is due in November,this post here will give you all the latest plot and villain details we know so far


http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=11712019&postcount=728


that is ****ing sweet bro, thanks!

k after that this movie is gunna own next year (outside of the soon to be best movie ever TDK)

[Cinemaman]

I like what facts tell so far :)

Now I guess they will release first pics next month :up:

[Golgo-13]

I like that Marion is Back, although the way she looks in real life today, she's gonna look way older than she's sopppose to within the Indy time line. This movie is in the 1950's, Raiders took place in the late 1930's. That's a little less than 20 years, whereas Raiders came out in 1981, and Indy IV come out in 2008. That's almost 30 years. I love her character, but the last time i saw Karen Allen was in the movie 'The Perfect Storm'..and she looked like she was pushing 80....

[Hunter Rider]

http://i8.tinypic.com/6ez3pxf.jpg

This is the most recent pic i can find of her

[Golgo-13]

Well, i guess if they can makke Mckellen look younger in X3 they can do the same with Allen and Ford.

[Carmine Falcone]

Allen and Ford.

Alan Ford?

http://www.thecnj.co.uk/review/020906/images020906/books01-1.jpg

:up::up:

[Cinemaman]

Oh c'mon, she'll be 57 next year, so with good make-up, everything can be fixed ;)

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20683

Indiana Jones 4 Starts Filming This Week
Source: Formula1.com (http://www.formula1.com/news/6162.html)
May 29, 2007


The official Formula 1 website (http://www.formula1.com/news/6162.html) caught up with George Lucas at the Monaco Grand Prix late last week. He said Indiana Jones 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665) starts filming this week:

I plan to go to Indianapolis as well - if my schedule permits it, as I start shooting Indiana Jones IV next week. If the production is running as planned you will find me there."

Lucas is executive producing the fourth installment, hitting theaters (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20683#) on May 22, 2008.

[xwolverine2]

finally!!!!!!

[green]

Not sure if this has been posted.

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blog/index.php?/archives/131-Exclusive-Indiana-Jones-IV-Sets-Erected!.html
Exclusive: Indiana Jones IV Sets Erected!

Exclusive: If there's one movie I'm looking forward to more than anything else it's Paramount Pictures' Indiana Jones IV, which is aiming for an adventurous release on May 22, 2008.

This past weekend Freeze Dried Movies learned that set have already begun to be built... right between the Psycho house and the disaster set from War of the Worlds on the Universal Studios lot in Universal City, California. No word on when exactly the film will begin shooting, but it looks like fans might be getting the exact same experience on the tour as they did with War of the Worlds (where you could - and still can - check out the set on the backlot tour). More details as they come in.

Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett, Ray Winstone and Shia LaBeouf will all star in Steven Spielberg's highly anticipated follow-up to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989).

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Oh god that is so coool, its finally happening, perhaps we will get shots of Ford soon.

[Lord Valumart]

i honestly belevie that when the first pic of Ford in the Fedora are posted on the net the world will take a gasp

[xwolverine2]

Oh god that is so coool, its finally happening, perhaps we will get shots of Ford soon.

oh man..... that will be 100x better than the joker pic:o

[Fried Gold]

i honestly belevie that when the first pic of Ford in the Fedora are posted on the net the world will take a gaspThat's gonna be RAD

[The Storm]

Cate Blanchette, Ray Winstone this film is no joke. I excited about seeing Shia LaBeouf, I love this guy!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

oh man..... that will be 100x better than the joker pic:o



ooh cheap shot , i love it.:woot:

[Mr. Socko]

Hopefully this movie will be good. It's not being directed by Lucas but by Spielberg like the others, so the chances are very high.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

If they have taken this long on it, i would imagine it should be a damn Oscar winner.

[Mr. Socko]

What kind?

Best picture?

[Cinemaman]

I am so happy!!! Can't wait for first pics from the set!!! :) :up:

[Redwoods Wolf]

What kind?

Best picture?

No, just the "Best Movie Ever Made" award, like Highlander got. ;)

[Spider-Fan]

No, just the "Best Movie Ever Made" award, like Highlander got. ;)

I saw de Highlander movie. It was s**t.

j/k...I loved Highlander. I just couldn't resist.

[Redwoods Wolf]

^^:D Nice.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20790

Indiana Jones 4 Casting Call!
Source: ComingSoon.net
June 4, 2007


SpielbergFilms.com (http://www.spielbergfilms.com/indy4/1418) reports that there will be a casting call for Indiana Jones 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665) in New Haven, Connecticut on June 11 and June 12:

The production is holding an open casting call for extras to appear in a sequence where Indy tears through campus on a motorcycle (along Chapel Street in New Haven). The call, organized by Billy Dowd Casting, will be held on Monday, June 11 and Tuesday, June 12 at the Omni Hotel at Yale between 1 p.m.-9 p.m. both days.

For more details, hit the link above. The production will film (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20790#) in New Haven between June 28 and July 7.

In related news, the New Haven Register has published two more articles on the film in the city, which you can read here (http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18419697&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=590581&rfi=6) and here (http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18419701&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=566835&rfi=6).

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20877

Hurt Joins Indiana Jones 4, Connery Not Returning
Source: Paramount Pictures
June 7, 2007


John Hurt has joined the previously-announced Cate Blanchett (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20877#) and Ray Winstone in Indiana Jones 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665), while Sean Connery has made it official that he won't be returning. Here's the official press release:

Several stars have thrown their hats into the ring to join Harrison Ford and Shia LeBeouf in Indiana Jones' latest whip-cracking adventure. Next year, when the new Indiana Jones movie opens worldwide on May 22, Indy will share the screen with Cate Blanchett, Ray Winstone and John Hurt.

Academy Award® winner Cate Blanchett has established herself as one of the preeminent leading actresses in film today, earning her first Best Actress nomination for her title role in Elizabeth, for which she received a BAFTA and Golden Globe Award. She continued to draw acclaim for significant roles in The Talented Mr. Ripley, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Notes on a Scandal and Babel. In 2005, she won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role as Katherine Hepburn in The Aviator, and this year was named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in the World. Cate is currently filming The Curious Case of Benjamin Button costarring Brad Pitt and directed by David Fincher.

Known for his layered and nuanced performances of tough guys, Ray Winstone drew international praise for his role as Gal Dove in Jonathan Glazer’s Sexy Beast. His recent screen credits include Martin Scorsese’s The Departed, Antoine Fuqua’s King Arthur, and Anthony Minghella’s Breaking & Entering. Winstone's voice can be heard as Mr. Beaver in The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Ray will next be seen in the title role of Beowulf opening November 16, 2007 directed by Robert Zemeckis.

Academy Award nominee John Hurt, whose career in film spans more than 40 years, has played memorable roles in movies both big and small. His impressive body of work includes such films as V for Vendetta, Elephant Man, 1984, Midnight Express, Contact, and Alien. On television, he won world-wide acclaim for his role of Caligula in "I, Claudius" and Quentin Crisp, in "The Naked Civil Servant".

While the man with the hat is back, this time he's not bringing his Dad. Sean Connery, who retired from acting in 2005, said:

"I get asked the question so often, I thought it best to make an announcement. I thought long and hard about it and if anything could have pulled me out of retirement it would have been an Indiana Jones film. I love working with Steven and George, and it goes without saying that it is an honor to have Harrison as my son. But in the end, retirement is just too damned much fun. I, do however, have one bit of advice for Junior: Demand that the critters be digital, the cliffs be low, and for goodness sake keep that whip by your side at all times in case you need to escape from the stunt coordinator! This is a remarkable cast, and I can only say, 'Break a leg, everyone.' I'll see you on May 22, 2008 at the theater!"

[Symbiotic]

Then so be it.

[Sava]

:up:... this is some cast

[Rezzo]

I was really hoping Sean Connery would return :(

[Kevin Roegele]

I'm glad Connery didn't come back. Cramming a popular character in just for the sake of it is never a good idea. The Last Crusade is about Indy and his dad - leave it at that.

[PhotoJones]

That cast is fantastic. But, as much as I love Shia, does anyone think he's the odd one out?

[Noir]

I'm watching Temple of Doom right now :D

[Carmine Falcone]

John Hurt? John ****ing Hurt! Hell yes!

This will be awesome.

[Kevin Roegele]

John Hurt? John ****ing Hurt! Hell yes!

This will be awesome.

What I like about that is that Hurt could easily have appeared in one of the three previous films. Just like Christopher Lee in Star Wars. It fits, it's authentic.

[Carmine Falcone]

I'm curious what kind of role the will play, an archeologist would make sense.

Btw, Winstone and Hurt together in one movie? Damn, the sound alone will be worth the price of the movie ticket, they both got ****ing awesome voices. :cool:

[Kevin Roegele]

I know why they cast Hurt.....the same reason they cast actors older than Roger Moore in his last few Bond films.

[Fanticon]

Maybe Connery will make a cameo and we won't know untill months leading up to the films release:O ...I wish.

[Rac]

Umm, what if Hurt is Jones Sr.? Or even betterly he's just some cool old archeologist, maybe a old buddy of Indy's dad.

[Kevin Roegele]

Umm, what if Hurt is Jones Sr.?

He's not, don't worry.

[Rac]

Huh, cool.

[Bababoozer]

I hear Sean's in bad shape. I hope it's not true.

[Steelsheen]

dissapointed on the Connery news :(

but hey this cast is shaping up to be the best one yet :up:

[Noir]

Connery's news is bad..
But John Hurt basicly makes me forget about it :D

[Spidey Lover 10]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20877

Hurt Joins Indiana Jones 4, Connery Not Returning
Source: Paramount Pictures
June 7, 2007


John Hurt has joined the previously-announced Cate Blanchett (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20877#) and Ray Winstone in Indiana Jones 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665), while Sean Connery has made it official that he won't be returning. Here's the official press release:

Several stars have thrown their hats into the ring to join Harrison Ford and Shia LeBeouf in Indiana Jones' latest whip-cracking adventure. Next year, when the new Indiana Jones movie opens worldwide on May 22, Indy will share the screen with Cate Blanchett, Ray Winstone and John Hurt.

Academy Award® winner Cate Blanchett has established herself as one of the preeminent leading actresses in film today, earning her first Best Actress nomination for her title role in Elizabeth, for which she received a BAFTA and Golden Globe Award. She continued to draw acclaim for significant roles in The Talented Mr. Ripley, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Notes on a Scandal and Babel. In 2005, she won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role as Katherine Hepburn in The Aviator, and this year was named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in the World. Cate is currently filming The Curious Case of Benjamin Button costarring Brad Pitt and directed by David Fincher.

Known for his layered and nuanced performances of tough guys, Ray Winstone drew international praise for his role as Gal Dove in Jonathan Glazer’s Sexy Beast. His recent screen credits include Martin Scorsese’s The Departed, Antoine Fuqua’s King Arthur, and Anthony Minghella’s Breaking & Entering. Winstone's voice can be heard as Mr. Beaver in The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Ray will next be seen in the title role of Beowulf opening November 16, 2007 directed by Robert Zemeckis.

Academy Award nominee John Hurt, whose career in film spans more than 40 years, has played memorable roles in movies both big and small. His impressive body of work includes such films as V for Vendetta, Elephant Man, 1984, Midnight Express, Contact, and Alien. On television, he won world-wide acclaim for his role of Caligula in "I, Claudius" and Quentin Crisp, in "The Naked Civil Servant".

While the man with the hat is back, this time he's not bringing his Dad. Sean Connery, who retired from acting in 2005, said:

"I get asked the question so often, I thought it best to make an announcement. I thought long and hard about it and if anything could have pulled me out of retirement it would have been an Indiana Jones film. I love working with Steven and George, and it goes without saying that it is an honor to have Harrison as my son. But in the end, retirement is just too damned much fun. I, do however, have one bit of advice for Junior: Demand that the critters be digital, the cliffs be low, and for goodness sake keep that whip by your side at all times in case you need to escape from the stunt coordinator! This is a remarkable cast, and I can only say, 'Break a leg, everyone.' I'll see you on May 22, 2008 at the theater!"

*FALLS ON HIS KNEES AND CRYS OUT TO GOD* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! DAMNIT, SEAN CONNERY, WHY DID U DO THIS?!?!?! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!? *breaks down crying his eyes out* I WANTED TO SEE INDY SR. BACK SO BADLY! *crying continues*:csad: :csad: :csad: :csad: :csad: :csad: :csad:

[Gold Samurai]

too bad theres not going to be

Marcus Brody-the actor has been dead for awhile
Davies- supposedly not required for the film
connery- chooses not to be in it

only "temple of doom" had none of the 3 listed above and its regarded as the bad apple of the "indiana jones" movies

another temple of doom vibe could be the young sidekick "shia lebeouf"

to quote star wars "I have a bad feeling about this"

[raybia]

too bad theres not going to be

Marcus Brody-the actor has been dead for awhile
Davies- supposedly not required for the film
connery- chooses not to be in it

only "temple of doom" had none of the 3 listed above and its regarded as the bad apple of the "indiana jones" movies

another temple of doom vibe could be the young sidekick "shia lebeouf"

to quote star wars "I have a bad feeling about this"

Since Connery isn't coming back, if I was Lucas, I would use this opportunity to bring back Davies.

[Visceral]

connery is a great actor but was never the reason i liked indy

[Kevin Roegele]

Since Connery isn't coming back, if I was Lucas, I would use this opportunity to bring back Davies.

:up: Definetly.

[Fried Gold]

connery is a great actor but was never the reason i liked indyYou do know he was only in 1 film, right?

[Kevin Roegele]

Great, the cast is set, production is underway and the Connery issue has been finally addressed. Now if we can just get to next summer without anymore lame, "Indiana Jones and the Quest for the Zimmer Frame" type jokes.....

[britrogue]

I don't see any reason for Connery to return. Last Crusade was my least favourite anyway, he took too much focus off my beloved Indy! lol

[Kevin Roegele]

I don't see any reason for Connery to return. Last Crusade was my least favourite anyway, he took too much focus off my beloved Indy! lol

He didn't really take the focus away from Indy, he added to and informed his character. We learn a lot more about Indy by seeing his dad and his relationship with him.

[Catman]

I'm glad Connery didn't come back. Cramming a popular character in just for the sake of it is never a good idea. The Last Crusade is about Indy and his dad - leave it at that.

Good point but I thought this would be a great exit film for Connery. I mean...ending his career with League of Crap is just wrong. :csad:

[Mr Jide]

Connery's not in this?!?!?!?!?

Oh hell no! That sucks.

[Kevin Roegele]

Connery's not in this?!?!?!?!?

Oh hell no! That sucks.

Yeah, but he's not in Raiders of the Lost Ark either.

Unless LUCAS decides to go back and put a CGI Henry Jones Sr into Raiders. And have Harrison Ford step on his tail. Won't that be clever and amusing.

[Noir]

Yeah, but he's not in Raiders of the Lost Ark either.

Unless LUCAS decides to go back and put a CGI Henry Jones Sr into Raiders. And have Harrison Ford step on his tail. Won't that be clever and amusing.
..The sad part is once Indy 4 comes out Lucas will probably digitally add Shia into the old movies and tweak them and such.. :dry:

[Spider-Fan]

We'll a CGI rock chasing Indy in Raiders, lol.

[green]

Eh I could care less about Connery returning, it would have been cool but the casting of Hurt is terrific news.

[Jack Rabbit]

Yeah, but he's not in Raiders of the Lost Ark either.

Unless LUCAS decides to go back and put a CGI Henry Jones Sr into Raiders. And have Harrison Ford step on his tail. Won't that be clever and amusing.


Silly.:woot:

I could care less that Connery isn't in this one. He served his purpose in Last Crusade, and his presence gave the film the quality they were looking for.

We don't another Last Crusade, so why bring Connery back into the fray? He's not needed.

[Antonello Blueberry]

We don't another Last Crusade, so why bring Connery back into the fray? He's not needed.
Why bring back Connery? Maybe because Professor Jones Sr. plays a big part in the script?

[Jack Rabbit]

Why bring back Connery? Maybe because Professor Jones Sr. plays a big part in the script?

I didn't know about that.:huh:

Regardless, the Last Crusade is a father-son movie. It's not about finding the Grail, it's about Indy and his father finding each other. That story has been told, I see no big reason for Dr. Jones Sr. to play a major role in another film.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I don't see any reason for Connery to return. Last Crusade was my least favourite anyway, he took too much focus off my beloved Indy! lol

It was my least favorite but I thought Connery was the bright point in the movie. Marcus and Sallah were practically unrecognizable and reduced to comedic relief, so maybe its good they're not in this one. For some reason, Last Crusade hasn't aged as well as the others.

[Fanticon]

I respect his official statement...although, I'm not so sure a 5minute cameo would hurt. Obviously a cameo like that would take almost, maybe less than a week to film.

[Kevin Roegele]

Why bring back Connery? Maybe because Professor Jones Sr. plays a big part in the script?

He doesn't though, we know it's more or less an extended cameo.

[The Chairman]

No Connery makes me sad.

Still, Hurt's a cool addition.

[Cinemaman]

So when will we get first pics? :)

[Iceman/Psylocke]

I only ever wanted to see a cameo for Jones Sr in this one.

[Darth Elektra]

Indiana Jones 4 Coming to Deming, NM

The Las Cruces Sun-News has published two articles (here and here) on the upcoming Indiana Jones 4 filming coming to Deming, New Mexico. Here's a bit from the first article:

The fourth installment of the "Indiana Jones" series will film some scenes in Deming. The working title is: "Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods."

An area outside Deming will be transformed through Hollywood magic into Morocco.

Folks who work in the technical side of the film business have been in Deming for weeks. A building at the former air strip in Deming has been painted blue, with a USAF insignia and the words "Home Of The Fighter Pilot" painted on an outside wall. In addition, WWII Air Force vehicles are parked nearby.

The fourth Indiana Jones adventure hits theaters on May 22, 2008.

[britrogue]

City Of The Gods huh? Not a bad title

[green]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070610e.php

Some interesting photos of preparation in New Mexico for shooting on the upcoming "Indiana Jones IV". Meanwhile with Connery gone, speculation is turning rife that John Hurt's role will be that of the 'thought dead' Abner Ravenwood, who's technically also the Shia LaBeouf character's grandfather.

The phots are gone now btw...

[bunk]

Abner is alive? Man, that guy must be old as hell in the movie.

[raybia]

Abner is alive? Man, that guy must be old as hell in the movie.

John Hurt is old as hell

[Kevin Roegele]

John Hurt is old as hell

John Hurt is well over 250 years old. He was born in Medieval times.

[Qwerty©]

Speaking of age, didn't Indiana Jones become immortal in the Last Crusade from drinking out of the Holy Grail?

So why would he have aged by this movie?

[raybia]

Speaking of age, didn't Indiana Jones become immortal in the Last Crusade from drinking out of the Holy Grail?

So why would he have aged by this movie?

He would have had to stay in the cave for it to work. The price for immortality.

[Qwerty©]

He would have had to stay in the cave for it to work. The price for immortality.Oh yes, I remember now.

[Kevin Roegele]

He would have had to stay in the cave for it to work. The price for immortality.

The irony being that Sean Connery was immortal, but got beheaded by the Kurgan. But then came back. And died.

[Kevin Roegele]

Anyway, I'm fascinated by the modern Spielberg doing an Indy flick. He is a very different director now than he was in 1989. Since then he's done Schindler's List, Private Ryan, Minority Report, AI, Munich....even The Lost World was dark and forboding and predominantly black.

[FaT_tONle]

What is the artifact here? Are they doing Atlantis or what?

[Kevin Roegele]

What is the artifact here? Are they doing Atlantis or what?

Your sig is giving me a headache. Less is more, man.

[Furious Styles]

The irony being that Sean Connery was immortal, but got beheaded by the Kurgan. But then came back. And died.

I'm pretty sure the original line in the shooting script was "There Can Be Only One...More Sequel!"

[Bat Attack]

I voted for "Bring in a heap of blue screen & Cgi work".

[Bat Attack]

I'm pretty sure the original line in the shooting script was "There Can Be Only One...More Sequel!"
That is correct. :oldrazz:

[Movies205]

I know Kevin is a huge fan of Highlander but god-damn that's got be the most over-rated tripe ever... Seriously great premise but mediocre execution... Seriously the get mind powers when they kill of the rest of their kind? WHOO-WOOO!!!

[raybia]

Abner is alive? Man, that guy must be old as hell in the movie.

I like that idea. Does anyone remember the details of the character from the 1st movie?

[Fried Gold]

I know Kevin is a huge fan of Highlander but god-damn that's got be the most over-rated tripe ever... Seriously great premise but mediocre execution... Seriously the get mind powers when they kill of the rest of their kind? WHOO-WOOO!!!Highlander the film is fantastic, but Highlander the franchise is beyond awful.

[sithgoblin]

Wasn't that supposed to be Abner who gave Indy his hat in The Last Crusade?

[raybia]

Wasn't that supposed to be Abner who gave Indy his hat in The Last Crusade?

No, that was Marcus Brody. Unfortunately, the actor has passed away.

[Jack Rabbit]

I like that idea. Does anyone remember the details of the character from the 1st movie?

I believe Indy said he was the leading expert in the Ark of the Covenant, also an esteemed Egyptology scholar.

[raybia]

I believe Indy said he was the leading expert in the Ark of the Covenant, also an esteemed Egyptology scholar.

Hmm, so I wonder what the connection will be?

If it is Abner, then he has some explaining to do. I think poor Abner has a case of Anakin Skywalker.

[Jack Rabbit]

Hmm, so I wonder what the connection will be?

If it is Abner, then he has some explaining to do. I think poor Abner has a case of Anakin Skywalker.

It was definitely stated that Abner was an expert on the Ark, and I think it was also alluded to that he and Indy had quite a relationship...I need to go watch Raiders again. I'll get back to you on it.

Whatever the case may be, I think that the expansion of Abner's character into something of a legend is definitely possible.

[Jack Rabbit]

No, that was Marcus Brody. Unfortunately, the actor has passed away.

The guy with Coronado's Cross was Brody?! ****, I gotta watch Last Crusade again, too!!

[raybia]

It was definitely stated that Abner was an expert on the Ark, and I think it was also alluded to that he and Indy had quite a relationship...I need to go watch Raiders again. I'll get back to you on it.

Whatever the case may be, I think that the expansion of Abner's character into something of a legend is definitely possible.

If featured, I think Abner has gone rogue and is the new villian working for the bad guys.

[Jack Rabbit]

If featured, I think Abner has gone rogue and is the new villian working for the bad guys.

I don't know how I feel about that.:csad:

Is there any word on the time frame of this film?

[raybia]

I don't know how I feel about that.:csad:

Is there any word on the time frame of this film?

I think its in the early to mid fifties.


Think about it. Indy and son (they don't know yet) get thrown together on an adventure involving the new bad guys (Soviets) and then the long thought to be dead Abner Ravenwood shows up to Indy's and Marion's (his daughter) surprise and then Indy and Abner get a suprise of their own when they learn that the kid is Indy's and Marion's, which would be Abner's grandson.

This is one big disfunctional family reunion. Kind of like Star Wars!

[Golgo-13]

Abner was Marions father right? Wasn't it said he was dead though? Eventhough i like the idea of them linking Indy 4 with a prior Indy movie, i don't want them to uproot any established facts.

[raybia]

Abner was Marions father right? Wasn't it said he was dead though? Eventhough i like the idea of them linking Indy 4 with a prior Indy movie, i don't want them to uproot any established facts.

Yes, thats the catch. They thought he was dead, but the details were never revealed.

Remember, in Star Wars, it was established that Anakin Skywalker was dead too. Same guy involved with Indy.

[sithgoblin]

No, that was Marcus Brody. Unfortunately, the actor has passed away.

No, it wasn't. It was supposed to be Abner, then they decided not to make him anyone and named him Fedora.

[Jack Rabbit]

No, that was Marcus Brody. Unfortunately, the actor has passed away.

Incorrect...

From IMDB:

The character named "Fedora" in the credits (played by Richard Young (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949985/)) was in the script originally named Abner Ravenwood, Marion Ravenwood's father and Indiana's mentor who was mentioned in Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981).

I had to look it up.

[raybia]

No, it wasn't. It was supposed to be Abner, then they decided not to make him anyone and named him Fedora.

http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/img/photochronicles042.jpg

Marcus Brody.

[Jack Rabbit]

I refer you to my previous post.

[sithgoblin]

http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/img/photochronicles042.jpg

Marcus Brody.

Wrong. :yay:

Where did you get the idea it was Marcus anyway?

[Golgo-13]

No, it wasn't. It was supposed to be Abner, then they decided not to make him anyone and named him Fedora.

Correct on saying it wasn't Brody, not sure if it was sopposed to be Abner though.

Yes, thats the catch. They thought he was dead, but the details were never revealed.

Remember, in Star Wars, it was established that Anakin Skywalker was dead too. Same guy involved with Indy.

So it's confirmed that Hurt is Abner or is this just speculation?




I'd like to ask; Is Die hard 4 a good assessment on how the general public will or will not recieve a resurrected franchise with a 4th installment? In other words if Die Hard 4 get's slammed by fans and critics alike, could this be a pre-cursor of what could happen to Indy 4?

[raybia]

Wrong. :yay:

Where did you get the idea it was Marcus anyway?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/img/photochronicles042.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/photochronicles042.html&h=271&w=268&sz=24&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=vgCFnfpgO-n5FM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=112&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarcus%2Bbrody%2Bindiana%2Bjones%26sv num%3D10%26hl%3Den

[sithgoblin]

Marcus was a family friend of the Jones family. He said himself in Last Crusade that he had known Indy and Henry their whole lives, he watched Indy grow up and he watched them grow apart. That doesn't fit with the Fedora encounter at all. Also, Marcus's personality is completely different. He's a scholar, not an adventurer.

[Jack Rabbit]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/img/photochronicles042.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/photochronicles/photochronicles042.html&h=271&w=268&sz=24&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=vgCFnfpgO-n5FM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=112&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarcus%2Bbrody%2Bindiana%2Bjones%26sv num%3D10%26hl%3Den

That proves nothing.:huh:

[Jack Rabbit]

Marcus was a family friend of the Jones family. He said himself in Last Crusade they he had known Indy and Henry their whole lives, he watched Indy grow up and he watched them grow apart. That doesn't fit with the Fedora encounter at all. Also, Marcus's personality is completely different. He's a scholar, not an adventurer.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

And if he does indeed go rogue as raybia said he might, that would make him fit with the Fedora character.

[raybia]

That proves nothing.:huh:

Maybe we are talking about two different characters. But Marcus Brody was a character from the 1st and 3rd movies played by Denholm Elliot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Brody

[raybia]

Correct on saying it wasn't Brody, not sure if it was sopposed to be Abner though.



So it's confirmed that Hurt is Abner or is this just speculation?

Rumored from Dark Horizons.

I'd like to ask; Is Die hard 4 a good assessment on how the general public will or will not recieve a resurrected franchise with a 4th installment? In other words if Die Hard 4 get's slammed by fans and critics alike, could this be a pre-cursor of what could happen to Indy 4?


It will come down to how quality of a film it is and can it outdo the films that were inspired by the original Diehard.

[raybia]

From Wikipedia:

In 1936, in the Peruvian jungle, archaeologist Indiana Jones braves several booby traps to retrieve the Hovito Idol from an ancient temple. After escaping a rolling boulder, he finds rival archaeologist Rene Belloq waiting outside the cave with a small group of Hovitos, the local natives. Surrounded and outnumbered, Jones is forced to give up the artifact to Belloq, but he escapes. Back at the college where he teaches, Jones meets with two Army intelligence agents. They explain that the Nazis, in their quest to gain occult power, are searching for Abner Ravenwood, Jones’ former mentor. Ravenwood is the foremost expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis, which has been rediscovered by the Nazis and is believed to be the location of the Ark of the Covenant, the chest the Israelites built to hold the Ten Commandments. Jones surmises that the Nazis seek Ravenwood because he possesses the headpiece to the Staff of Ra, a key artifact which is essential in calculating the Ark’s resting place. His colleague Marcus Brody explains that, according to legend, the power of the Ark can make any army invincible.

Jones flies to Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and his daughter Marion, Jones' bitter former lover, has the headpiece. After a gunfight between Jones and a sadistic Nazi agent named Toht, Marion's tavern burns down. Toht's hand is scarred with the face of the medallion, and Jones ends up with both the headpiece and Marion, who decides to travel with him. The two fly to Cairo and meet up with Sallah, a skilled Egyptian digger, who says that he knows where they are digging for the Ark, and that Belloq is working for the Nazis. Nazi operatives quickly kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Jones. That evening, Sallah and Jones get the headpiece deciphered. Based on this translation, they realize the Nazis used the wrong length for the Staff of Ra, and are digging in the wrong place.

[raybia]

Incorrect...

From IMDB:



I had to look it up.

That was a flashback scene when Indy was played by River Phoenix. The guy in the Fedora hat that looked like a prototype for Indiana Jones.

I thought the original post was referring to Marcus Brody, not this guy.


There is still no reason why "Fedora" couldn't be Abner though.

In 1912, boy scout Indiana Jones steals the Cross of Coronado, an ornamental cross belonging to Francisco Vásquez de Coronado, from grave robbers, believing it should be in a museum instead of a private collection, in the process using a whip, scarring his chin, and gaining his fear of snakes. Although he rescues the cross, the robbers tell the police that Indiana was the thief, and he is forced to return it, while his oblivious father, Henry Jones, is working on his research. One of the robbers, dressed very similarly to the future Indiana, gives him a fedora. In 1938, an adult Indiana is on the robbers' ship, the Coronado, off the Portuguese coast, finally retrieving the Cross and donating it to Marcus Brody's museum.

[Jack Rabbit]

We were mixed up, dude.

I thought you were telling me that Brody was 'Fedora'.

I know who Brody is, and I know who Abner is. I was saying Abner was 'Fedora'...I don't know where the confusion was, but it was definitely there.

[sithgoblin]

Well, my original post said 'wasn't Abner the one who gave Indy his hat?'

I don't see what's so confusing about that, only one person gave a hat to Indy in that film.

[Halcohol]

The last page of this thread made me laugh pretty hard... it's so not complicated, guys.

[Fried Gold]

Who's on first?

[Halcohol]

Who's on first?
No, no, Who's on second. What's on first. With Brody and a fedora. :rolleyes:

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Indiana Jones 4 Coming to Deming, NM

The Las Cruces Sun-News has published two articles (here and here) on the upcoming Indiana Jones 4 filming coming to Deming, New Mexico. Here's a bit from the first article:

The fourth installment of the "Indiana Jones" series will film some scenes in Deming. The working title is: "Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods."

An area outside Deming will be transformed through Hollywood magic into Morocco.

Folks who work in the technical side of the film business have been in Deming for weeks. A building at the former air strip in Deming has been painted blue, with a USAF insignia and the words "Home Of The Fighter Pilot" painted on an outside wall. In addition, WWII Air Force vehicles are parked nearby.

The fourth Indiana Jones adventure hits theaters on May 22, 2008.Not a bad name :up:

[Threshold]

For some reason, I've been struck with a twinge of hope for this film. Rather than suspecting it to be a failure... I think, and I know that this may seem like some pretty 'outside-of-the-box' thinking, that I'm going to be hopefull and optimistic about the project until I have reason to doubt it's quality...

Did anyone else hear about the rumor that John Hurt may be cast as the originally thought dead Abner Ravenwood? I think that's pretty f-king cool!

[Fried Gold]

Did anyone else hear about the rumor that John Hurt may be cast as the originally thought dead Abner Ravenwood? I think that's pretty f-king cool!Proof that one should read the thread before posting...

[FaT_tONle]

Your sig is giving me a headache. Less is more, man.

Sorry you feel that way... but lets keep that debate to another thread

[Fried Gold]

Sorry you feel that way... but lets keep that debate to another threadIn fairness, it is rather hideous

[FaT_tONle]

In fairness, it is rather hideous

Too many colors and words I know... well its there to stay... I'll take out the tag lines though

[Kevin Roegele]

Too many colors and words I know... well its there to stay... I'll take out the tag lines though

Just have less colours! Please!

[The_Vision]

For some reason, I've been struck with a twinge of hope for this film. Rather than suspecting it to be a failure... I think, and I know that this may seem like some pretty 'outside-of-the-box' thinking, that I'm going to be hopefull and optimistic about the project until I have reason to doubt it's quality...

Did anyone else hear about the rumor that John Hurt may be cast as the originally thought dead Abner Ravenwood? I think that's pretty f-king cool!

I heard that John Hurt will be playing Albert Einstein although its probally just a rumor

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Indy_4_Rumors_With_Possible_Spoilers_106072.asp

[raybia]

Well, my original post said 'wasn't Abner the one who gave Indy his hat?'

I don't see what's so confusing about that, only one person gave a hat to Indy in that film.

For some reason, I thought I was responding to who did Indy give the cross to.

My bad.

[Hunter Rider]

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/795/795878p1.html

Indiana Jones and Area 51
Is the top secret base featured in Indy IV?
by IGN Staff (http://uk.movies.ign.com/email.html)

US, June 12, 2007 - With filming on Indiana Jones 4 getting underway, fan anticipation for the long-awaited movie is building to a fever pitch. And along with all of that enthusiasm comes rampant speculation about the film's top secret storyline.

Yesterday, we passed along a report (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/795/795668p1.html) that Albert Einstein might appear in the film -- played by veteran actor John Hurt. We also relayed another piece of information that may reveal more details about the film's events than was previously thought.

The Deming Headlight newspaper has reported that an area near the town's Deming Municipal Airport, a former WWII training base, is being prepped for filming. A structure on the site has been painted blue and now sports a United States Air Force insignia along with the slogan "Home of the Fighter Pilot."

The paper claims that parts of the area will stand-in for Morocco during filming, and while we think that's probably true, we believe it may also serve as another more mysterious location.

Upon looking into the whole "Home of the Fighter Pilot" thing, we've learned that it's actually a slogan that belongs to Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. And anyone with a passing interest in the UFO phenomenon will know that Nellis is adjacent to the legendary above top secret military installation Area 51. See where this is going? Could it be that just a tiny bit of screenwriter Jeb Stuart's scrapped 1995 script Indiana Jones and The Saucer Men From Mars has survived? Probably not, but we think it's very likely the Deming, New Mexico airport location is being setup to look like Nellis Air Force Base. That could mean UFOs, some other kind of top secret military angle on the story, or something completely mundane.

It's also important to note that Nellis encompasses the Nevada Test Site where nuclear weapons were frequently tested during the period when the movie takes place -- at the height of Cold War proliferation.

[Jack Rabbit]

Oh, there better not be any flying ****ing saucers. HEADS WILL ROLL.

[Threshold]

Proof that one should read the thread before posting...

So I did read it here... :D

[Kevin Roegele]

Can Harrison Ford even run? How fast can a 65-year old man run?

Can he jump?

[FaT_tONle]

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/795/795878p1.html

Indiana Jones and Area 51
Is the top secret base featured in Indy IV?
by IGN Staff (http://uk.movies.ign.com/email.html)

US, June 12, 2007 - With filming on Indiana Jones 4 getting underway, fan anticipation for the long-awaited movie is building to a fever pitch. And along with all of that enthusiasm comes rampant speculation about the film's top secret storyline.

Yesterday, we passed along a report (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/795/795668p1.html) that Albert Einstein might appear in the film -- played by veteran actor John Hurt. We also relayed another piece of information that may reveal more details about the film's events than was previously thought.

The Deming Headlight newspaper has reported that an area near the town's Deming Municipal Airport, a former WWII training base, is being prepped for filming. A structure on the site has been painted blue and now sports a United States Air Force insignia along with the slogan "Home of the Fighter Pilot."

The paper claims that parts of the area will stand-in for Morocco during filming, and while we think that's probably true, we believe it may also serve as another more mysterious location.

Upon looking into the whole "Home of the Fighter Pilot" thing, we've learned that it's actually a slogan that belongs to Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. And anyone with a passing interest in the UFO phenomenon will know that Nellis is adjacent to the legendary above top secret military installation Area 51. See where this is going? Could it be that just a tiny bit of screenwriter Jeb Stuart's scrapped 1995 script Indiana Jones and The Saucer Men From Mars has survived? Probably not, but we think it's very likely the Deming, New Mexico airport location is being setup to look like Nellis Air Force Base. That could mean UFOs, some other kind of top secret military angle on the story, or something completely mundane.

It's also important to note that Nellis encompasses the Nevada Test Site where nuclear weapons were frequently tested during the period when the movie takes place -- at the height of Cold War proliferation.

Area 51??? In an Indy flick... tell me you are joking? If this is about an alien artifact damn them to hell... I'd rather Ford and Speilberg have heart attacks than to see an Indy film about aliens

[sithgoblin]

Agreed, Indy should be about the supernatural, not scifi

[Shifty]

Can Harrison Ford even run? How fast can a 65-year old man run?

Can he jump?

Can Ric Flair?

[jimmylace]

yip. area 51. I'm afraid that aliens do feature in Indy 4...although, thankfully only ancient ones. The plot is about 13 magical crystal skulls...supposedly alien..and the soviets are after them for some reason. also Shia LeBoeuf plays a greaser who gets caught up in Indy's quest...its halfway through the movie until they realise they are father and son. (marion is the mom)


okay so the above is merely rumour...but its persistent...makes alot of sense, and I think thats the movie Indy 4 will be. theres a motorcycle chase through a university which is right out of saucer men...looks like some of that (mostly horrible) script has survived....I think Indy might be getting married at some point in this movie too (spielberg mentioned that old flames would make cameos...happens at the wedding in saucer men from mars.

[Avangarde]

I think the whole Crystal Skull thing was featured in an episode of Stargate SG1, there may be some relevence to the connection between aliens and the crystal skulls, that and the working title City of the Gods does point to ancient extraterrestrial involvement. Just a thought.

[Pablo Parker]

what was that "Saucer men" script all about? Is it on the net? and btw... "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars"? That´s the worst title somebody could think of.

[Qwerty©]

There are existing artifacts in the world that are crystal skulls, and some believe there to be an alien connection.

[FaT_tONle]

Are you guys sure this is legit... sure makes sense... but alien cyrstals??? This movie is going to suck hard...

[Qwerty©]

Are you guys sure this is legit... sure makes sense... but alien cyrstals??? This movie is going to suck hard...
All you hear is one little plot point and you think this movie is going to suck?

[green]

Set going up at Universal Studios.
http://filmpub.atlas.cz/aktuality/122272-prvni-obrazky-z-indiana-jonese-4.aspx

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/1106049.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/1106050.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/1106051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/1106052.jpg

[Pablo Parker]

that pics really remind me of the Fate of Atlantis video game...

[Cinemaman]

Holy Crap!!! First pics from the set! :eek: :up:

[xwolverine2]

cool! sean connery's retirement home!

[Ring Deacon]

Well the Crystal Skulls are real artifacts, some of which have been found already. They are believed to have some sort of powers and may hold information like a computer (think Superman's crystals). So I think it sounds pretty cool. Indy is once again going after something that is real and not a made up artifact. I for one can't wait for this movie.

[Hunter Rider]

The pics are from National Treasure 2

[Cinemaman]

DAMN IT!!! :mad: :down

[Jack Rabbit]

yip. area 51. I'm afraid that aliens do feature in Indy 4...although, thankfully only ancient ones. The plot is about 13 magical crystal skulls...supposedly alien..and the soviets are after them for some reason. also Shia LeBoeuf plays a greaser who gets caught up in Indy's quest...its halfway through the movie until they realise they are father and son. (marion is the mom)


okay so the above is merely rumour...but its persistent...makes alot of sense, and I think thats the movie Indy 4 will be. theres a motorcycle chase through a university which is right out of saucer men...looks like some of that (mostly horrible) script has survived....I think Indy might be getting married at some point in this movie too (spielberg mentioned that old flames would make cameos...happens at the wedding in saucer men from mars.


Say it isn't SO!!!:cmad: :cmad:

What are your sources?!:cmad: :cmad:

[xwolverine2]

The pics are from National Treasure 2

ugh

[Gold Samurai]

The last page of this thread made me laugh pretty hard... it's so not complicated, guys.

seriously. How could "Mr Fedora" turn into Marcus Brody the man that got lost in his own museum:cwink:

That post about the title being revealed as "Indiana Jones and the City of The Gods" is that confirmed? I don't see it on the Indianajones.com website or comingsoon.net

[Jack Rabbit]

seriously. How could "Mr Fedora" turn into Marcus Brody the man that got lost in his own museum:cwink:
I don't know! That's why I was getting so confused. I was sure the was no way Brody could've been 'Fedora'.


That post about the title being revealed as "Indiana Jones and the City of The Gods" is that confirmed? I don't see it on the Indianajones.com website or comingsoon.net

It's on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Indiana+Jones), last time I checked.

[Cinemaman]

I guess it's just a work title.

[jimmylace]

wow. Ive got alot of comments to get through!! The legend of the crystal skulls....well its more than a legend. its a very real phenomenon. archeologists all over the world have found crystal skulls that defy all belief in how they were created. (theyre ancient but theres no evidence of cutting...not even laser..theyre made out of one piece of crystal only and thusly it should be physically impossible for them to exist without splitting. it therefore could be argued that whatever created them must have been more advanced than us)

I remember reading a story as a kid in one of these "unexplained phenomenon" type books about a crystal skull that would scream anytime it was moved. I really like this as an artifact for Indy....

if you wanna know more just run a search for crystal skulls...im sure theres probably tons of articles on the things...

[jimmylace]

what was that "Saucer men" script all about? Is it on the net? and btw... "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars"? That´s the worst title somebody could think of.

"Indiana Jones And The Saucer Men From Mars" was a script commissioned by Lucas and penned by Jeb Stuart in 1995 (or 97 I really cant remember)

****

Ive read it....its very easy to find on the internet too. Its not a terrible script in itself, but it would definately be a dissapointing Indy movie after all this time.

I dont want to write a synopsis on the script, as that would take ages, but there were one or two good scenes in there. In that script Indy came face to face with an alien at the end though. The tone of the script was like an homage to 50's B movies. I'd expect Indy 4 to still follow suit.

If you want to read the scripts theres two very good indy fan sites...www.theraider.net and indyexperience.com lots of Indy news too from reliable sources. (thats where my info comes from)

INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF GODS was the title of Frank Darabonts rejected draft...parts of which remained in nathansons draft. parts of nathansons draft remain in koepps.

no one knows if COG is still the title, but it seems theres a strong chance that it will be. if not, the title may include the crystal skull idea


A bug rumour at the moment is that John Hurt will be playing Albert Einstein in the pic. The movies set in 57 though, so Im assuming only in flashbacks if true.

[jimmylace]

oh and those set pictures are for National Treasure 2, not Indy.

[Jack Rabbit]

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

Huh.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6cslu.jpg

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1c.jpg

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1d.jpg
"Here boy! C'mere, crystal skull! C'mere!"


I think it sounds pretty stupid. I don't like aliens and Indy.:csad:

[Dr. Fate]

This film is nothing but a bloated vanity project headed by 3 greedy old men who don't care if they ruin the good name of what was once a great franchise.

[Jack Rabbit]

This film is nothing but a bloated vanity project headed by 3 greedy old men who don't care if they ruin the good name of what was once a great franchise.

Don't hold back, Fate. Tell us how you FEEL.

[Dr. Fate]

Don't hold back, Fate. Tell us how you FEEL.
I FEEL that this film is a piece of crap in the making. Satisifed, JR?

[Kritish]

Of all the things that could go wrong with the film why is too much CGI one of them? :huh:

[Mr. Socko]

SOOOOO excited about this film!

[Cinemaman]

I heard Hurt will play Einstein, but... didn't Albert die in 1955 (two years before the movie take place)?

[britrogue]

Of all the things that could go wrong with the film why is too much CGI one of them? :huh:

Remember the opening of the Ark? If they re-did that now it would suck

[Threshold]

Now they're saying John Hurt could be playing Young Einstein?

Wow, the dude could probably pull it off without a hitch, but what purpose would the character serve in the film?

[FaT_tONle]

I heard Hurt will play Einstein, but... didn't Albert die in 1955 (two years before the movie take place)?

Lets see... TLC was what... 1938? Indy was probably in his late thirties... Indy 4 is early 1950's... so we are looking at a 50 something year old Indy and an old Albert Einstein... an age Ford can pull of quite easily... I am sure the beard will go and they will dye up that hair and take some years off of his appearance

[Kevin Roegele]

I heard Hurt will play Einstein, but... didn't Albert die in 1955 (two years before the movie take place)?

Yeah, but it's fiction. :)

[Fried Gold]

Indy 4 is early 1950'sNah, Indy 4 is 1957

[Cinemaman]

Lets see... TLC was what... 1938? Indy was probably in his late thirties... Indy 4 is early 1950's... so we are looking at a 50 something year old Indy and an old Albert Einstein... an age Ford can pull of quite easily... I am sure the beard will go and they will dye up that hair and take some years off of his appearance

Indy 4 takes place in 1957, so I have no idea how will they put Einstein in it, considering teh fact that he died in 1955. And I am not talking about Indy's age in new movie.

[Jack Rabbit]

I FEEL that this film is a piece of crap in the making. Satisifed, JR?

Woah, there boy. I was just being funny. I kind of agree with you, but I'm clinging to glimmers of hope.

[Gold Samurai]

Shia lebeouf was on jay leno to promote transformer and talked a bit about Indy 4. He said that Harrison was rehearsing on the motorcycle with guys with swords

[Hunter Rider]

Shia lebeouf was on jay leno to promote transformer and talked a bit about Indy 4. He said that Harrison was rehearsing on the motorcycle with guys with swords:wow::woot:

[Fanticon]

and the whip...he said that too.

[Cinemaman]

The shooting has already started and we still don't have any pics :(

[Golgo-13]

I really feel this film casting a known, establish actress (Cate Blanchett) as the villan is a mistake. Every other Indy film has cast relative unknowns, who were great character actors and made the role they were assigned. In other words they didn't bring along any baggage, and you believed who they were in the Indy movie because you hadn't really seen them in anything else. Kate Capshaw, Karen Allen, Allison Doody, Denholm Elliott, etc,etc.....all great but not known for anything else until they starred in Indy.

I like Blanchett. And i like Shia. And i hope that making a 4th Indy doesn't sour an awesome, classic franchise but i believe that casting known actors is the first mistake.................... of many.

[xwolverine2]

what has blanchett been in??? lol

[Mr. Socko]

Cate Blanchett is Galadriel in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, she was also nominated for best supporting actress in Martin Scorsese's Aviator and starred in the film Elizabeth I. Just last year she starred in Babel, Good German, and Notes on a Scandal. Quite an impressive Resume.


Anyway, Indy Jones is the greatest action/adventure hero of all time, I have no doubt that Spielberg and Lucas will deliver a globe trotting, adventure epic. National Treasure will never hold a candle to Indiana Jones.

[Golgo-13]

Cate Blanchett is Galadriel in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, she was also nominated for best supporting actress in Martin Scorsese's Aviator and starred in the film Elizabeth I. Just last year she starred in Babel, Good German, and Notes on a Scandal. Quite an impressive Resume.


Anyway, Indy Jones is the greatest action/adventure hero of all time, I have no doubt that Spielberg and Lucas will deliver a globe trotting, adventure epic. National Treasure will never hold a candle to Indiana Jones.

They sure are trying though.

[green]

The pics are from National Treasure 2

LMAO...they were?


:woot:
We've been had.:cmad:

[Mr. Socko]

I actually liked those set pieces. Really reminded me of a set from an Indy film. Would be cool if that set was for the beginning of NT2, Nic Cage is after something like the golden idol in Raiders, just to open up the film, y'know.

[Kevin Roegele]

Indy Jones is the greatest action/adventure hero of all time

Indy is second.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/99/007Connery.jpg

[Fried Gold]

I really feel this film casting a known, establish actress (Cate Blanchett) as the villan is a mistake. Every other Indy film has cast relative unknownsYeah, but in this instance, it's casting against type, which is cool.

[Cinemaman]

Indy is second.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/99/007Connery.jpg

James Bond? Nah, he didn't work for me as the greatest one (though I liked some of his movies) :word:

[sithgoblin]

We've all seen what Bond is like next to Jones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/IJ3_IA_13_R.jpg

[green]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33043

Rumor that Jim Broadbent has joined the cast.

[The Gonking 2.0]

Indy Jones is not the greatest action hero of all time, there a lot better.

John Mclane
Terminator
Bond
Dirty Harry and all the characters played by Clint in his western movies
V

[Sava]

Indy was recently voted the great action hero of all time ... i forget who it was by but it was a big magazine

[Qwerty©]

Indy Jones is not the greatest action hero of all time, there a lot better.

John Mclane
Terminator
Bond
Dirty Harry and all the characters played by Clint in his western movies
V
V?

V shouldn't be higher than Indy.

[Hunter Rider]

McClane is the only one of those i'd put up with Indy,certainly not the Terminator

[Sava]

when are we likely to get a teaser for this?

[scifiwolf]

My money's on getting a teaser with Beowulf on November 16.

[Hunter Rider]

^^^quite possibly,Lucas said November for the teaser

[The Chairman]

McClane is the only one of those i'd put up with Indy,certainly not the Terminator

I'd put Connery's Bond, not the rest. But The Terminator? V?

:huh:

[Kevin Roegele]

I'd put Connery's Bond, not the rest. But The Terminator? V?

:huh:

V? Thatr's just weird.