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Kanon
05-25-2008, 11:37 AM
I believe the original from Raiders actually goes like this:
"Throw me the idol!"
"Give me the whip!"
"No time to argue. You throw me the idol, I give you the whip!"

:D I love Raiders.
Probably right. I watched it on Thrusday before Skull, but I have the worst memory for quotes :woot:

Plus Alfred Molina's english wasn't that bad as I put it :hehe:

Lord Valumart
05-25-2008, 11:40 AM
o i heard that as well.. but why turn one legend into 2 seperate stories of 12 skulls when the ones we have work perfectly fine in the story... :o... hell thats like making another holy grail or another arc

i got that our ones were inspired by the alien ones...but thats probably me putting 2 and 2 together to get 5...:huh:

TLH
05-25-2008, 11:42 AM
LV,

You might want to blackout the word alien

Lord Valumart
05-25-2008, 11:46 AM
LV,

You might want to blackout the word alien

done, but it's been going around that the skulls were alien since WAY before the movie came out so i don't see why it's a spoiler or anything...

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 11:58 AM
I think he just swallow it

You can clearly see it sticking out of his mouth.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 12:04 PM
Karen Allen's fall into the Well of Souls. Indy being strong enough to move that ginat statue. Indy being strong enough to move that Giant Brick. Indy surviving a submerged Sub-Marine's journey.


I doubt it would be possible.


Indy and Ilsa swiming in propane but it not buring. Indy going over the cliff on the tank; it's never explained how he gets out of that' even in the long shot you don't see him jumping of the tank.


None of the sequences are beyond the realm of possiblity in Indy 4; just unlikley; just like in the prvious 3. Sure the monkey is cringe worthy but not impossible.

I'll buy the submarine journey thing. I always forget that scene. But Indiana moving stones isn't really that hard to believe, no matter how large.

What about the bridge scene is so unbelievable? Them hanging on as it falls and slams into the wall? People have survived much worse.

The only part of the Indy and Ilsa propane thing that is silly is Indy opening his eyes under it and looking.

The nuke scene is completely beyond the realm of possibility. Even if the fridge survived the blast, it's just a fridge. It flying through the air and smashing into the ground would do some damage to it. If I drop my fridge from the roof of my house, I'm sure at least the door would fall off.

Jack O Lantern
05-25-2008, 12:08 PM
sorry.. but on a scale to 1to10... the original trilogies event probabilities are actually pretty damn low while CS is near 10 or above it... i can by the water falls easily... its the other crap i can't. the original trilogy other then the "mystical" elements weren't compared to the new film... seriously monkeys and a nuke? compared to getting out of a tank on time? and diving under water to not get burned? (u do realise that kerosene only burns on top right?)

It's not water and when they go under it it means that they have swim through it to get above it and out of the sewer system. Not to mention the fact that their clothes are trenched in it.

There is nothing unrealistic about the monkey scene; it's just bad. A fridge that is lead lined would protect you from a nuke. And it's not geeting out of a tank on time; it's the fact that the tank was already half way down the cliff before he jumped off and in the wide shot we don't even see him doing it.

Jack O Lantern
05-25-2008, 12:12 PM
I'll buy the submarine journey thing. I always forget that scene. But Indiana moving stones isn't really that hard to believe, no matter how large.

Yeah it is because it looks like it weights a ton

What about the bridge scene is so unbelievable? Them hanging on as it falls and slams into the wall? People have survived much worse.


I was referring to the raft scene. But about the bridge scene; he is hit by about 5 arrows that bounce off him.

The nuke scene is completely beyond the realm of possibility. Even if the fridge survived the blast, it's just a fridge. It flying through the air and smashing into the ground would do some damage to it. If I drop my fridge from the roof of my house, I'm sure at least the door would fall off.

The fridge was lead lined.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 12:15 PM
I was referring to the raft scene. But about the bridge scene; he is hit by about 5 arrows that bounce off him.


The fridge was lead lined.

I said the raft scene is impossible, I merely stated that with a larger raft/floatation device it is possible. Mythbusters tested it and found that the escape slide on a plane could land someone safely.

NODvOx0V57E

Ok, the fridge was lined with lead.. I got that by the giant sign on screen saying so. I didn't know that saying something is lead lined gives it the ability to be impervious to any real damage. I'm pretty sure that was just a way to explain why the radiation didn't hurt Indy.

chaseter
05-25-2008, 12:24 PM
All of the movies have had impossible moments in them...it's an Indy movie. But, him surviving in a fridge being tossed thousands of feets was a bit much for my taste. That coupled with the guerilla monkeys and the skulls final performance made me go why...why George Lucas did you want that in there. But other than that, top notch.

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 12:48 PM
what about the magic flying raft from TOD??? surviving a fall of at least a couple hundred feet in an inflatable raft beats all.....I saw CS this morning with my Dad and we both liked it....its also cool because the whole motorcycle chase scene was filmed here in CT at Yale University....

The Caped Knight
05-25-2008, 01:06 PM
Opening Weekend: $101,000,00

Domestic Total as of May. 25, 2008: $126,000,000 (Estimate)

126 million from three days is good - budget was 185 million for reference

they'll make that back easily

The Apatow Crew
05-25-2008, 01:11 PM
they'll make that back easilyYeah once the worldwide totals get added in it will be well over or close to 200 million.

ultimatefan
05-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Indiana Jones Box Office summary:
Thursday: $25,041,072
Friday: $31,000,000
Saturday: $37,000,000
Sunday: $33,000,000
------------------------
$126,041,072 over its first four days

Monday should probably add at least $22 million to that, and potentially as high as $28 million.

Doesnīt break any records and is below industry expectations, but still will make its production budget back pretty fast and make a LOT of money for the studio. At least 300m domestic should be a lock.

TLH
05-25-2008, 01:46 PM
Doesnīt break any records and is below industry expectations, but still will make its production budget back pretty fast and make a LOT of money for the studio. At least 300m domestic should be a lock.

It didn't miss either of these by terribly much. Any sane company would be stoked with the numbers this film has taken in so far, no matter what they may have hoped for.

Go God Go!
05-25-2008, 01:51 PM
I'd give it a 6. Not bad, or anything, but a far cry from the first three.

ultimatefan
05-25-2008, 01:53 PM
It didn't miss either of these by terribly much. Any sane company would be stoked with the numbers this film has taken in so far, no matter what they may have hoped for.

I know, not trying to put it down, but it will come up in the media reports.

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Doesnīt break any records and is below industry expectations, but still will make its production budget back pretty fast and make a LOT of money for the studio. At least 300m domestic should be a lock.

Is it supposed to be breaking records?? I see that as something of a bonus more than anything else....

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Ok, the fridge was lined with lead.. I got that by the giant sign on screen saying so. I didn't know that saying something is lead lined gives it the ability to be impervious to any real damage. I'm pretty sure that was just a way to explain why the radiation didn't hurt Indy.

In the context of the film it becomes impervious. People were hiding under their desks during bomb drills. Everyone was told these things would protect you and the fiction of the time (which the movie is inspired by) reflected this information

X-Maniac
05-25-2008, 02:34 PM
Well, here's my review for my newspaper movie blog:

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/05/indy-review.html#more

I separated the spoiler material into another segment further down the page.

I think is one of those movies that will divide - you either see the glass as half-empty or half-full. But I - and the audience i saw it with - were entertained by it.

Malice
05-25-2008, 02:45 PM
OK just watched it myself....
I think it was better than Temple of Doom, but much worse than the Lost Ark and Last Crusade.

Malice
05-25-2008, 02:46 PM
The sad part is, I guessed the plot almost 15 minutes into the movie.
It was a combination of National Treasure (#2) and a few Stargate SG1 episodes...

Malice
05-25-2008, 02:47 PM
I gave it a 5

Schlosser85
05-25-2008, 02:52 PM
X-Maniac, well-written review. I agree.

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 02:56 PM
i dont get the Temple of Doom hate here:huh:


Temple is CLASSIC Indy... high speed chases(mine cart and chinatown)

swingin Indy

the spiked room trap and the best thing of all



"We Are Going to Die!" :up:




Kingdom doesnt even fit the bill.. its too outlandish the story arc is so NOT indy.. and the puzzle is so half assed...

its like Indy in a Stargate Episode.. you hit it right on the head malice

Malice
05-25-2008, 02:57 PM
Temple of Doom didnt have Nazis! That is the problem.
Just didnt fit without Nazis!

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 03:00 PM
Temple of Doom didnt have Nazis! That is the problem.
Just didnt fit without Nazis!
neither does Kingdom :huh:


and it doesnt even have an EARTHLY feel.. since the opening sequence



I knew they were going after aliens :csad:

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 03:04 PM
also..


Why would that stupid russian be seeking Knowledge???
The Russians were hellbent on ruling the world during the coldwar.. if they wanted a weapon of mass destruction... why didnt they retrieve the ark of the covenant.. which they unearthed while in the warehouse???:huh:

Untilteld
05-25-2008, 03:23 PM
Here's my idea on how they could continue the franchise:

Indiana has given up on his adventures and sends Mutt secretley away to find what he and Ox have been searching for for years, The Lost City. To fool Marion he says that Mutt is gone to a private school across the country so they could get some privacy. As Mutt is close to finding the Lost City he is captured and held ransom for all the information he was given from Indy by the Russians. Indiana discovers what happens from an inside man and heads over to save Mutt and the secrets of The Lost City from the evil Russians.

Joker
05-25-2008, 03:28 PM
also..


Why would that stupid russian be seeking Knowledge???
The Russians were hellbent on ruling the world during the coldwar.. if they wanted a weapon of mass destruction... why didnt they retrieve the ark of the covenant.. which they unearthed while in the warehouse???:huh:


She was interested in psychic phenomenon, and the Russians were athiest, so even if they knew of the arc, and knew where it was, they wouldnt have believed in it.

Joker
05-25-2008, 03:29 PM
Here's my idea on how they could continue the franchise:

Indiana has given up on his adventures and sends Mutt secretley away to find what he and Ox have been searching for for years, The Lost City. To fool Marion he says that Mutt is gone to a private school across the country so they could get some privacy. As Mutt is close to finding the Lost City he is captured and held ransom for all the information he was given from Indy by the Russians. Indiana discovers what happens from an inside man and heads over to save Mutt and the secrets of The Lost City from the evil Russians.

uh...they found the lost city, and it was destroyed, at the end of this movie...

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 03:32 PM
She was interested in psychic phenomenon, and the Russians were athiest, so even if they knew of the arc, and knew where it was, they wouldnt have believed in it.
good points

Untilteld
05-25-2008, 03:35 PM
uh...they found the lost city, and it was destroyed, at the end of this movie...

I meant Atlantis.

terry78
05-25-2008, 03:37 PM
I did like how Spalko was about to do the final ritual with the skull and was like like, "you have to believe, Dr. Jones." And he's like, "Oh I believe, sister, that's why I'm standing down here."

Joker
05-25-2008, 03:38 PM
I meant Atlantis.

the video game Indiana Jone and the Fate of Atlantis or whatever already dealt with that subject, and according to the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones, is in continuity. so I really doubt they'll re-do the same storyline and void that game out.

Untilteld
05-25-2008, 03:45 PM
the video game Indiana Jone and the Fate of Atlantis or whatever already dealt with that subject, and according to the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones, is in continuity. so I really doubt they'll re-do the same storyline and void that game out.

I never played any of the games. I'm going to buy Lego Indiana Jones on the 3rd for sure though.

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Just got back from seeing it.

All i have to say is, i'm glad all you guys came on here and nitpicked about the supposed 'cheesy parts'- like the Praire Dogs, the Monkeys and the ending, because it really braced me for this film..and guess what..your whining was greatly exaggerated.....this movie kicked ass!

INDY IS BACK!

Yeah, the extra-terrestrial spin was a little different from the other movies, but why repeat the same old formula? It's been done 3 times already. We got a NEW adventure for Indy. The fridge scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be at all. They clearly showed it was 'lined with lead'. And it was no more far fetched than Indy jumping out of a moving plane, in a rubber raft and surviving that like he did in TOD.

The only scene i found a tad corny, was his first bits of dialogue with Marion. It was a little odd for some reason. And she seemed a little ditsy in other scenes. :huh:

I loved the first 20 minutes, along with the whole jungle chase scene which rivalled that of the truck chase in Raiders, imo. Hell, they even used some of the same score, especially when Spalko was hanging on the front of Marions truck like Indy was in Raiders.

Question:

Was it me, or was that even Fords voice in the beginning, when he was first talking to Spalko? He was saying somethnig about "the way she pronounces, blah, blah,blah"..but it didn't even sound like Harrison Fords voice; more like a voice over. :huh: Odd.

All in all i enjoyed it. Even the tarzan scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. The nods to Marcus, and the scene with his statue was cool, especially since the look Indy gave Mutt was the same look he got from HIS dad in TLC, LOL!

All in all i say this one ties with my least favorite Indy Adnture, TLC. It might even be a tad better. I'll definately be seeing this again.

8.5/10

Raiders
TOD
TLC/KOCS

terry78
05-25-2008, 03:49 PM
Just got back from seeing it.

All i have to say is, i'm glad all you guys came on here and nitpicked about the supposed 'cheesy parts'- like the Praire Dogs, the Monkeys and the ending, because it really braced me for this film..and guess what..your whining was greatly exaggerated.....this movie kicked ass!

INDY IS BACK!

Yeah, the extra-terrestrial spin was a little different from the other movies, but why repeat the same old formula? It's been done 3 times already. We got a NEW adventure for Indy. The fridge scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be at all. They clearly showed it was 'lined with lead'. And it was no more far fetched than Indy jumping out of a moving plane, in a rubber raft and surviving that like he did in TOD.

The only scene i found a tad corny, was his first bits of dialogue with Marion. It was a little odd for some reason. And she seemed a little ditsy in other scenes. :huh:

I loved the first 20 minutes, along with the whole jungle chase scene which rivalled that of the truck chase in Raiders, imo. Hell, they even used some of the same score, especially when Spalko was hanging on the front of Marions truck like Indy was in Raiders.

Question:

Was it me, or was that even Fords voice in the beginning, when he was first talking to Spalko? He was saying somethnig about "the way she pronounces, blah, blah,blah"..but it didn't even sound like Harrison Fords voice; more like a voice over. :huh: Odd.

All in all i enjoyed it. Even the tarzan scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. The nods to Marcus, and the scene with his statue was cool, especially since the look Indy gave Mutt was the same look he got from HIS dad in TLC, LOL!

All in all i say this one ties with my least favorite Indy Adnture, TLC. It might even be a tad better. I'll definately be seeing this again.

8.5/10

Raiders
TOD
TLC/KOCS

He said, "the way you're pronouncing those "wubble-yous", I'd say Eastern Ukraine.

Matt Murdock
05-25-2008, 03:51 PM
I think the exact phrasing was 'Biting into those wubble-yous' :p

terry78
05-25-2008, 03:53 PM
I think the exact phrasing was 'Biting into those wubble-yous' :p

What-EVER. Talk to the hand. :o

She already has her own fansite. I can tell this character is going to be something of a cult favorite in later years. I can already sense a bunch of chicks being Spalko for Halloween this year.

www.agentspalko.com

http://agentspalko.com/wp-content/gallery/agent-spalko-photos/Spalko3.jpg

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 03:53 PM
I think the exact phrasing was 'Biting into those wubble-yous' :p
actually it was "sinking your teeth into..."

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 03:54 PM
What-EVER. Talk to the hand. :o

She already has her own fansite. I can tell this character is going to be something of a cult favorite in later years.

www.agentspalko.com (http://www.agentspalko.com)

http://agentspalko.com/wp-content/gallery/agent-spalko-photos/Spalko3.jpg


alas.. they shoulda use HER as the Baroness:csad:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 03:55 PM
He said, "the way you're pronouncing those "wubble-yous", I'd say Eastern Ukraine.

Yeah that part. It didn't even sound like Ford; more like a voice over of someone elses voice. :huh: It seemed out of place.

Matt Murdock
05-25-2008, 03:56 PM
One thing I did notice was that his voice really did sound off.

The Guardian
05-25-2008, 03:58 PM
Just got back from seeing it.

All i have to say is, i'm glad all you guys came on here and nitpicked about the supposed 'cheesy parts'- like the Praire Dogs, the Monkeys and the ending, because it really braced me for this film..and guess what..your whining was greatly exaggerated.....this movie kicked ass!

INDY IS BACK!

Yeah, the extra-terrestrial spin was a little different from the other movies, but why repeat the same old formula? It's been done 3 times already. We got a NEW adventure for Indy. The fridge scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be at all. They clearly showed it was 'lined with lead'. And it was no more far fetched than Indy jumping out of a moving plane, in a rubber raft and surviving that like he did in TOD.

The only scene i found a tad corny, was his first bits of dialogue with Marion. It was a little odd for some reason. And she seemed a little ditsy in other scenes.

I loved the first 20 minutes, along with the whole jungle chase scene which rivalled that of the truck chase in Raiders, imo. Hell, they even used some of the same score, especially when Spalko was hanging on the front of Marions truck like Indy was in Raiders.

Question:

Was it me, or was that even Fords voice in the beginning, when he was first talking to Spalko? He was saying somethnig about "the way she pronounces, blah, blah,blah"..but it didn't even sound like Harrison Fords voice; more like a voice over. Odd.

All in all i enjoyed it. Even the tarzan scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. The nods to Marcus, and the scene with his statue was cool, especially since the look Indy gave Mutt was the same look he got from HIS dad in TLC, LOL!

All in all i say this one ties with my least favorite Indy Adnture, TLC. It might even be a tad better. I'll definately be seeing this again.

8.5/10

Raiders
TOD
TLC/KOCS

AWESOME GOLGO, I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT!!!:D:up: 126 MILLION,:eek::up: THAT'S SWEET, THANKS TRUNKS FOR THE HEADS UP!!! I'M GLAD THE MOVIE'S DOING SO WELL, I'M HAPPY FOR HARRISON, STEVEN, AND YES EVEN GEORGE:oldrazz: AND THE REST OF THE CAST AND CREW, ENJOY IT GUYS YOU'VE EARNED IT!!!:indy::up:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 04:01 PM
I love the way he locates the 'cargo' in the warehouse with the gunpowder. :up:

Kent
05-25-2008, 04:11 PM
Was it me, or was that even Fords voice in the beginning, when he was first talking to Spalko? He was saying somethnig about "the way she pronounces, blah, blah,blah"..but it didn't even sound like Harrison Fords voice; more like a voice over. :huh: Odd.

I'm pretty sure it was his voice, however... it seemed to me like he was channeling Henry Jones Sr. in that short sequence. Down to the little smile he gives off after the "from the way you're sinking your teeth into those "wubble-yous..." bit... which actually looked like the few smiles Henry Jones Sr. cracked in the Last Crusade.

The Guardian
05-25-2008, 04:14 PM
I love the way he locates the 'cargo' in the warehouse with the gunpowder. :up:

YEAH THAT WAS PRETTY COOL, I LOVED THAT WHOLE SEQUENCE, IT WAS AWESOME, I GOT A KICK OUT OF THE NUKE LOL!!!:D:up:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 04:17 PM
Spalko's head honcho (don't know his name) was pretty badass also.

I see that the youmg Indy tv series is in the same continuity as the films, cause he mentioned running with Pancho, as he did on the tv show.

Wolverini
05-25-2008, 04:21 PM
Just came back from Indy and I loved every second of it! Below are some spoilers, read at your own risk.


The Aliens is a little far-fetched, but give Indy a brake here. The Ark of the Covenant? The cup of Jesus Christ? 2 of the most discussed objects in the history of mankind and you guys get so worked up about some Aliens. Good explanations why Marcus and Henry Jones Sr. arent around. The story was good, better then I thought.

I LOVED the sequence at the end, with Spalko "knowing" everything. Figures that, if you know everything, your head would be FILLED with information. Its a brain-overload. Nice touch on the Alien Face though... he was looking at her, in a way ... you know, trying to find out if she was worthy. She wasnt, hence the p*ssed off face at the end.

The CGI looked good. The mushroom cloud alone deserves a freaking wallpaper! The monkey scene was funny, so unrealistic ... just like some sequences in the previous movies. Impossible for Shia to swing on those things but again, just like in ToD where Indy flies of a cliff in a yellow-rubber boat... same thing. The Jungle Chase was awesome... everything was good in this movie. Indiana Jones is back and WOOT! The moment that tune came on I was hooked.


Loved Indy 4. I agree with everyone that it should end with 4.




Indiana Jones : Raiders of the Lost Ark ... 8.5/10
Indiana Jones : Temple of Doom ... 7/10
Indiana Jones : The Last Crusade ... 9/10
Indiana Jones : Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 8/10

Here's something for you guys to enjoy. A TV station called Veronica did this to Indy! I personally love it. youtube.com/watch?v=ikNSVeWIPvM
Direct link in case it doesnt work : http://youtube.com/watch?v=ikNSVeWIPvM

The Guardian
05-25-2008, 04:27 PM
Spalko's head honcho (don't know his name) was pretty badass also.

I see that the youmg Indy tv series is in the same continuity as the films, cause he mentioned running with Pancho, as he did on the tv show.

:indy::up:

The Caped Knight
05-25-2008, 04:31 PM
I know, not trying to put it down, but it will come up in the media reports.

Indy's already making more money than Speed Racers @ The Box Office .

Rezzo
05-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Spalko's head honcho (don't know his name) was pretty badass also.

His name was Dovchenko.

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Just came back from Indy and I loved every second of it! Below are some spoilers, read at your own risk.


The Aliens is a little far-fetched, but give Indy a brake here. The Ark of the Covenant? The cup of Jesus Christ? 2 of the most discussed objects in the history of mankind and you guys get so worked up about some Aliens. Good explanations why Marcus and Henry Jones Sr. arent around. The story was good, better then I thought.

I LOVED the sequence at the end, with Spalko "knowing" everything. Figures that, if you know everything, your head would be FILLED with information. Its a brain-overload. Nice touch on the Alien Face though... he was looking at her, in a way ... you know, trying to find out if she was worthy. She wasnt, hence the p*ssed off face at the end.

The CGI looked good. The mushroom cloud alone deserves a freaking wallpaper! The monkey scene was funny, so unrealistic ... just like some sequences in the previous movies. Impossible for Shia to swing on those things but again, just like in ToD where Indy flies of a cliff in a yellow-rubber boat... same thing. The Jungle Chase was awesome... everything was good in this movie. Indiana Jones is back and WOOT! The moment that tune came on I was hooked.


Loved Indy 4. I agree with everyone that it should end with 4.




Indiana Jones : Raiders of the Lost Ark ... 8.5/10
Indiana Jones : Temple of Doom ... 7/10
Indiana Jones : The Last Crusade ... 9/10
Indiana Jones : Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 8/10

Here's something for you guys to enjoy. A TV station called Veronica did this to Indy! I personally love it. youtube.com/watch?v=ikNSVeWIPvM
Direct link in case it doesnt work : http://youtube.com/watch?v=ikNSVeWIPvM

Your right. Indy standing on the hill looking at the mush room cloud was definately a 'wallpaper' worthy shot.

Wolverini
05-25-2008, 04:51 PM
I loved how they played with the Mayan Culture being influenced by Aliens. I'm 100% sure we're not the only ones in this galaxy, thats for sure.

I'm about to see it again in ... 12 hours or so. Also glad you liked it Golgo. This is an Indiana Jones movie, not Munich or Schindlers List. This is a movie you should enjoy and not think about the facts given all the time.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 05:21 PM
My guess is, she got knocked out and crashed the car, only to come to and drive in later.

Alright, I just got back from seeing it again. And to Joker who we were backing and forth about Marion's jungle disappearance.

She doesn't get knocked out. She gets hit, and keeps driving. She still drives while Mutt is standing between both cars, She has the whole ordeal with Blanchet on the front of the car shooting the gun back at her. She rams her into Mutt's car and then she disappears.

So it's really not explained. We just have to assume that she fell behind randomly and then caught up in the knick of time.

This time around only 2 things bugged me The tarzan swinging and the alien/spaceship in the end I think without the first of these two, and the second toned way back, it would have been a more solid movie.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Also, the blow gun thing doesn't work. It's a great idea, but the dart magically turns around inside of the gun after Indy blows it and stabs the native in the mouth. You can clearly see it sticking out. So upon first viewing I thought maybe it's explainable maybe he swallows the dart or the back of the dart is poisoned too, upon second viewing it's impossible.

Kent
05-25-2008, 05:33 PM
Also, the blow gun thing doesn't work. It's a great idea, but the dart magically turns around inside of the gun after Indy blows it and stabs the native in the mouth. You can clearly see it sticking out. So upon first viewing I thought maybe it's explainable maybe he swallows the dart or the back of the dart is poisoned too, upon second viewing it's impossible.

I've only seen it once, so I can't confirm, but I figured the dart was just a stick entirely dipped in poison?

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 05:34 PM
I've only seen it once, so I can't confirm, but I figured the dart was just a stick entirely dipped in poison?

That would make sense. Thank you, I can settle on that. :yay:

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Good good. Nice to know the posters Im familiar with like KOTCS. Good to see you again Wolverini

fallenAngel
05-25-2008, 05:36 PM
Really enjoyed it. Love Indiana Jones. I thought it was at least better than Temple of Doom.

Though the end went a little X-files for me. I'm fine with the supernatural and the sci-fi elements. But I felt it could have been a little more ambiguous.

and some of the script was lousy. But there was still plenty to love. Check your brain at the door, just like all the others and just enjoy it. Not to call it brainless of stupid but even Raiders was just all in good fun. Every sequel has it's own unique problems and this is no different.

As if my opinion matters. 8/10

The Chris
05-25-2008, 05:40 PM
Did anyone else dig that fight Indy and the big russian with the ants around them. That was when I was really throwing the punches at the screen.

Rezzo
05-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Did anyone else dig that fight Indy and the big russian with the ants around them. That was when I was really throwing the punches at the screen.

That was one of my favorite parts. :up:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 05:45 PM
Did anyone else dig that fight Indy and the big russian with the ants around them. That was when I was really throwing the punches at the screen.

Yeah, i loved that too. I liked both fight Indy had with him. The one in the beginning where he hangs Indy by his neck and is body punching him was cool too.

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Yeah, i loved that too. I liked both fight Indy had with him. The one in the beginning where he hangs Indy by his neck and is body punching him was cool too.


yeah i like the first one better than the later one

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 05:48 PM
The Ant Scene was AWESOME

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 05:48 PM
it was funny when Indy shoves the guy's head from his shoulder and pushes him away from himself. hehe

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 05:49 PM
lol, great part :up::D

The Chris
05-25-2008, 05:52 PM
The one part about the earlier fight I liked was the wide shot where he kicks the guy, which gets him caught hanging on a chain, and then Indy swings with the other chain and dropkicks him through glass.

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 05:54 PM
that was pretty smooth

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 05:59 PM
The one part about the earlier fight I liked was the wide shot where he kicks the guy, which gets him caught hanging on a chain, and then Indy swings with the other chain and dropkicks him through glass.

That was cool, which is why that whole warehouse sequence was my favorite part of the movie. I particularly like the shot where Indy is running up what looks like a conveyer belt, and then starts jumping from beam to beam as the Soviet is shooting at him from below. :up:

What did everyone think of the transition shot; from the Paramount sign, into the 'mound'...?

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 06:02 PM
What did everyone think of the transition shot; from the Paramount sign, into the 'mound'...?

It was ok. The first two transitions were the only ones that really have any effect though. The first is the first one, and then the second one was cool how it was engraved in a gong. Now its just tradition or something.

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 06:06 PM
someone in another thread suggested that there should be a thread for those who didn't like the movie that way, both sides won't tear each other apart. If a mod happens to come here, please consider the option. I hate to see a flame war occur and they're no fun. Spider-man 3 had two threads where those who loved it, posted in one and the other thread was for those who didn't like it.

*shrugs*

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 06:11 PM
someone in another thread suggested that there should be a thread for those who didn't like the movie that way, both sides won't tear each other apart. If a mod happens to come here, please consider the option. I hate to see a flame war occur and they're no fun. Spider-man 3 had two threads where those who loved it, posted in one and the other thread was for those who didn't like it.

*shrugs*

It's not that bad in here imo. Besides Spidey has his own forum, so multiple threads in there are more acceptable.

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Well its not like I think there needs to be one but someone else happened to suggest it in another thread. thats all.

I have my own Realm... that Im trying to set up *sighs* damn icons

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:18 PM
I loved the fight in the middle of the ants. Lucas Arts and Indiana Jones movies have the best sound for connecting punches in the industry.

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 06:20 PM
:up::up:

terry78
05-25-2008, 06:20 PM
The scene where Dovchenko is eaten alive by the ants and you see them all pouring into his mouth and coming out of random orifices was basically the money shot that most earlier movies had, like the face melting in Raiders and the Holy Grail quick aging to death.

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 06:23 PM
My fave part is the waterfall ... funny when each time they drop, they have to climb back into the car boat. hehe. Hilarious.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:23 PM
The scene where Dovchenko is eaten alive by the ants and you see them all pouring into his mouth and coming out of random orifices was basically the money shot that most earlier movies had, like the face melting in Raiders and the Holy Grail quick aging to death.

It was. Definitely more satisfying than Blanchet's demise.

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 06:27 PM
What i don't understand is:

Why was Spalko and the soviets climbing down the cliff face on ropes, after the ant attack, when they had vehicles to get away? I know they were trying to get the skulls but if memory serves me correct, at that point, Marion hadn't drove off the cliff yet...:huh:

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:29 PM
What i don't understand is:

Why was Spalko and the soviets climbing down the cliff face on ropes, after the ant attack, when they had vehicles to get away? I know they were trying to get the skulls but if memory serves me correct, at that point, Marion hadn't drove off the cliff yet...:huh:

I don't know.. I don't know where they thought they were going.

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 06:29 PM
What i don't understand is:

Why was Spalko and the soviets climbing down the cliff face on ropes, after the ant attack, when they had vehicles to get away? I know they were trying to get the skulls but if memory serves me correct, at that point, Marion hadn't drove off the cliff yet...:huh:

Their car got covered in ants before anyone even saw the ants

EDIT

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 06:31 PM
I Think so

Kanon
05-25-2008, 06:33 PM
Didn't they had another car? And wouldn't the ants follow the ropes?

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 06:36 PM
Didn't they had another car? And wouldn't the ants follow the ropes?

Itwas three cars right? Indy's got trashed, Spalko's got covered in ants, and Marions was ok. As for the ants, climbing the ropes was better than just staying their.

terry78
05-25-2008, 06:36 PM
Oh yeah, there was another ant scene that I had to laugh my ass off at. Where Spalko is in the tree and these little ****ers basically climb on top of each other like a double helix in order to reach her. Then I realized that there are ants that do that in certain parts of the world, so it wasn't as stupid as I thought.

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 06:37 PM
What Happend to mac's leg's before he died?

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:38 PM
What Happend to mac's leg's before he died?

Nothing. He just didn't want to move.

Kanon
05-25-2008, 06:40 PM
Itwas three cars right? Indy's got trashed, Spalko's got covered in ants, and Marions was ok. As for the ants, climbing the ropes was better than just staying their.
I think there was an extra car that saved Spalko when the ants were climbing

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 06:42 PM
there were 3 cars, Marion was just the last car to get to the fire ant pit of death....

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 06:43 PM
Their car got covered in ants before anyone even saw the ants

EDIT

But their was a vehicle at the end of that scene that drives in and saves Spalko as the ants try to reach her, that wasn't covered. :huh:

Where Spalko is in the tree and these little ****ers basically climb on top of each other like a double helix in order to reach her. Then I realized that there are ants that do that in certain parts of the world, so it wasn't as stupid as I thought.

Yeah, i've seen them do that on the Discovery channel.

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:48 PM
there were 3 cars, Marion was just the last car to get to the fire ant pit of death....

No, there were at least 4 cars in the end. The one Indy and co. crashed, the one Spalko and co. crashed, the one Marion came white knighting in, and the final truck full of russian soldiers that came back.

It's all very confusing.

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 06:50 PM
the lesson here is that Commies have lots of vehicles and travel in bunches...

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 06:50 PM
Nothing. He just didn't want to move.
he wanted to die?

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 06:52 PM
i think Mac realized his Douchebaggery was beyond redemption

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 06:52 PM
he wanted to die?

I think that's what the movie implied. I have no idea why his character turned like that, but it's all I got.

One minute he is fine and enjoying his looting. Then he falls and instantly thinks he isn't good enough to live... It didn't make much sense

terry78
05-25-2008, 06:54 PM
I couldnt' get over Mac constantly calling him Jonsey. I kept having Police Academy flashbacks.

Prognosticator
05-25-2008, 07:00 PM
It was bad.

Yeah, it's better to just leave it at that, and leave it alone....FOREVER. :down:

Bim
05-25-2008, 07:01 PM
Did anyone else dig that fight Indy and the big russian with the ants around them. That was when I was really throwing the punches at the screen.
I loved that fight, and geez, that guy just wasnt going down easy! :hehe:

When the ants grabbed him and took him i kept hoping he would just close his mouth :hehe:

Prognosticator
05-25-2008, 07:03 PM
Did anyone else cover their head in their shirt in shame when the credits started rolling, so as not to be recognized for staying until the end?


.......respectively.

Bat Attack
05-25-2008, 07:03 PM
I just got back from seeing it again, and it was even better the second time. The audience was totally into it which was great. 8/10. A great, solid, fun film. :up: Love the vintage paramount logo at the beginning too, that was a nice touch. ;)

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Run, Indy, Run....Fight, Indy, Fight....Jump, Indy, Jump....I went through all that during the course of the film

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 07:06 PM
*eats Indiana Jones M&Ms* Mmm

terry78
05-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Some kid was in Target today messing around with the Indy whip that they're selling now and hit his little brother in the face. He starts crying, Mom goes off on him. I wanted to bust out laughing. :o

Prognosticator
05-25-2008, 07:08 PM
i dont get the Temple of Doom hate here:huh:


Temple is CLASSIC Indy... high speed chases(mine cart and chinatown)

swingin Indy

the spiked room trap and the best thing of all



"We Are Going to Die!" :up:




Kingdom doesnt even fit the bill.. its too outlandish the story arc is so NOT indy.. and the puzzle is so half assed...

its like Indy in a Stargate Episode.. you hit it right on the head malice

I'm in FULL agreement. Temple of Doom might be the best stand alone sequel/prequel EVER and it always get dragged through the mud.

And it's total BS to even compare this new "movie" as better than any of the originals, especially TOD. :down:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 07:08 PM
I think the whole fridge scene was Speilburg's tribute to Back To The Future, as most know that the original idea for the time machine was supposed to be a fridge, but the film makers changed it to a Delorean as they feared that kids all over the world would be getting themselves locked inside of refrigerators!

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:10 PM
the nods to Indys' dad and Marcus were awesome...especially Marcus' portrait and the statue of him

Prognosticator
05-25-2008, 07:13 PM
Just got back from seeing it.

All i have to say is, i'm glad all you guys came on here and nitpicked about the supposed 'cheesy parts'- like the Praire Dogs, the Monkeys and the ending, because it really braced me for this film..and guess what..your whining was greatly exaggerated.....this movie kicked ass!

INDY IS BACK!

Yeah, the extra-terrestrial spin was a little different from the other movies, but why repeat the same old formula? It's been done 3 times already. We got a NEW adventure for Indy. The fridge scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be at all. They clearly showed it was 'lined with lead'. And it was no more far fetched than Indy jumping out of a moving plane, in a rubber raft and surviving that like he did in TOD.

The only scene i found a tad corny, was his first bits of dialogue with Marion. It was a little odd for some reason. And she seemed a little ditsy in other scenes. :huh:

I loved the first 20 minutes, along with the whole jungle chase scene which rivalled that of the truck chase in Raiders, imo. Hell, they even used some of the same score, especially when Spalko was hanging on the front of Marions truck like Indy was in Raiders.

Question:

Was it me, or was that even Fords voice in the beginning, when he was first talking to Spalko? He was saying somethnig about "the way she pronounces, blah, blah,blah"..but it didn't even sound like Harrison Fords voice; more like a voice over. :huh: Odd.

All in all i enjoyed it. Even the tarzan scene wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. The nods to Marcus, and the scene with his statue was cool, especially since the look Indy gave Mutt was the same look he got from HIS dad in TLC, LOL!

All in all i say this one ties with my least favorite Indy Adnture, TLC. It might even be a tad better. I'll definately be seeing this again.

8.5/10

Raiders
TOD
TLC/KOCS

Yes, what was up with that?! It sounded so out of character, I didn't know what to think?? I can't believe they let that slip through!

The Man of Steel
05-25-2008, 07:13 PM
*eats Indiana Jones M&Ms* Mmm
:lmao:

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:13 PM
my whole issue with TOD is that it all takes place in ONE place as opposed to both Raiders and Last Crusade, where it bounces around the world....and no Marcus or Sala....on its own its a great movie though

StrainedEyes
05-25-2008, 07:14 PM
the nods to Indys' dad and Marcus were awesome...especially Marcus' portrait and the statue of him

I wish they would have gotten better images for both the of pictures. Indy's dad looked like a photo from Connery's acting/modeling portfolio and Brodie's looked like a still from Last Crusade. Though that's a common problem in movies.

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Well this was a great way to start off the summer for me. My next big high:

The Incredible Hulk.

terry78
05-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Since Temple was a prequel to the rest of this ****, I view that as his first outing, so it's basically just his first time dealing with crazy ass **** like this, so it makes sense to be in one area.

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 07:15 PM
:lmao:


lol what? :grin:

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:17 PM
I don't know if anyone ever played 'Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb' for PS2 and Xbox....but in the timeline it actually takes place before TOD and you meet up with that chinese guy that helps Indy out in the restaurant....

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 07:17 PM
Since Temple was a prequel to the rest of this ****, I view that as his first outing, so it's basically just his first time dealing with crazy ass **** like this, so it makes sense to be in one area.
wait!??! Temple is a prequel???:huh:

cerealkiller182
05-25-2008, 07:18 PM
wait!??! Temple is a prequel???:huh:

yes the date at the beginning places it befroe Raiders.

It also explains why Indy was so motivated by fortune and glory rather than heroism or historical preservation

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:19 PM
yea TOD takes place in 1935 Raiders in 1936

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 07:20 PM
yes the date at the beginning places it befroe Raiders.

It also explains why Indy was so motivated by fortune and glory rather than heroism.

yea TOD takes place in 1935 Raiders in 1936
boy did i mis the bus :csad:


i feel like i was just told there was no Santa Clause:csad:


but really it make TEMPLE that much better for me.. and really enlightens everything really.. thanks guys :up:

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 07:21 PM
..i'd like Indy 5 to be a prequel to KOCS, so we can cut out Mutt and bring back Mac.

Bim
05-25-2008, 07:22 PM
yea TOD takes place in 1935 Raiders in 1936
Hmm i hadnt realized that actually, i never remember what year each movie takes place in :hehe:

Majik1387
05-25-2008, 07:23 PM
..i'd like Indy 5 to be a prequel to TOCS, so we can cut out Mutt and bring back Mac.
TOCS?

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 07:24 PM
TOCS?

Sorry, KOCS.

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 07:24 PM
I watched TOD last night and Raiders this morning. gonna watch LC tomorrow. Then KOTCS on Tuesday

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:24 PM
I don't get all the vehement Internet hate for Shia....I've only seen the guy in about 3 or 4 movies....seems OK to me....my sister told me he was in some Disney channel show for a while....

He's managed to land in a good amount of big budget films so he must be doing something right....

Golgo-13
05-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Shia wasn't too bad actually.

DarthRekal
05-25-2008, 07:27 PM
I don't get all the vehement Internet hate for Shia....I've only seen the guy in about 3 or 4 movies....seems OK to me....my sister told me he was in some Disney channel show for a while....

He's managed to land in a good amount of big budget films so he must be doing something right....
my girlfriend told me she met him once and he was an ass...

and she has this girly gossip board she goes to that other girls say the same thing... so i dont think its the acting part they are hating but just the guy himself..

me myself.. i like his acting

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:29 PM
Shia wasn't too bad actually.

but if you read some of the vitrol on places like AICN or Theater Hopper, you'd swear he'd walked into their houses and punched their mothers in the face.....

Majik1387
05-25-2008, 07:36 PM
my girlfriend told me she met him once and he was an ass...

and she has this girly gossip board she goes to that other girls say the same thing... so i dont think its the acting part they are hating but just the guy himself..

me myself.. i like his acting
That my deal with him. I like him in his roles and his acting, but outside of that, I could do without.

Joker
05-25-2008, 07:41 PM
but if you read some of the vitrol on places like AICN or Theater Hopper, you'd swear he'd walked into their houses and punched their mothers in the face.....

Theater Hopper has gotten worse and worse over the last few years. The Shia strips, which seem to happen every other week, are the worst of it.

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:43 PM
Theater Hopper has gotten worse and worse over the last few years. The Shia strips, which seem to happen every other week, are the worst of it.

They have one of those up this week....apparently if you frequent the internet and want to be one of the cool kids, you have to label Shia as the Anti-Christ....there was a post somewhere of someone ragging on the BK Toy he has.....

terry78
05-25-2008, 07:48 PM
It's mostly jealousy, I won't sugarcoat it. The dude basically went from being one of those Disney Channel goofballs and suddenly became the hottest thing ever, studios come to him, he doesn't have to go to anyone. And the Haterade flows freely when **** like that happens, especially people who are going the "indie" route and have to sell kidneys to get their **** financed.

Joker
05-25-2008, 07:50 PM
They have one of those up this week....apparently if you frequent the internet and want to be one of the cool kids, you have to label Shia as the Anti-Christ....there was a post somewhere of someone ragging on the BK Toy he has.....

That was also Theater Hopper.

BlackLantern
05-25-2008, 07:52 PM
It's mostly jealousy, I won't sugarcoat it. The dude basically went from being one of those Disney Channel goofballs and suddenly became the hottest thing ever, studios come to him, he doesn't have to go to anyone. And the Haterade flows freely when **** like that happens, especially people who are going the "indie" route and have to sell kidneys to get their **** financed.

So I guess he can gets his dog goldplated if he wants, huh??

terry78
05-25-2008, 07:57 PM
So I guess he can gets his dog goldplated if he wants, huh??

http://www.videosift.com/video/Robot-Chicken-Richie-Rich-Cribs

He gets what he wants and he WANTS HIS DOG GOLDPLATED!

Browncoat
05-25-2008, 08:01 PM
there was a post somewhere of someone ragging on the BK Toy he has.....
Which is oddly a better likeness than the Hasbro toy.

I don't get the Shia hate. It's not like he's Uwe Boll or anything. Guess that's why I've always said the cool kids can eat a bag of *****.

Arkady Rossovich
05-25-2008, 08:24 PM
So,what's the word on this? Is it a success? How much money has it made?

That'ssuper!
05-25-2008, 08:26 PM
Now seeing the movie, can anyone come up with a much better title for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Now that I see the film, none of the other pre-selected titles makes logical sense for it. The kingdom is like a temple or a shrine and that's all. It would have been better to call it Indiana Jones and the Sanctum of Gods or Shrine of Gods.

Rac
05-25-2008, 08:30 PM
Indiana Jones and the Completely Unnecessary Movie

TLH
05-25-2008, 08:48 PM
So,what's the word on this? Is it a success? How much money has it made?

$126 million over its first four days. It should crack $150 million after Monday's holiday is over and the numbers are in.

To answer your question, yes...it's a big success. It will be a huge success if it has good legs.

The Kid
05-25-2008, 09:01 PM
http://indysax.ytmnd.com/

The Chris
05-25-2008, 09:05 PM
$126 million over its first four days. It should crack $150 million after Monday's holiday is over and the numbers are in.

To answer your question, yes...it's a big success. It will be a huge success if it has good legs.

It's got some time for legs too. Next week has two R rated movies going at it, then a couple comedies the week after. No action movie I don't think until Incredible Hulk, at least I don't think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

spideyboy_1111
05-25-2008, 09:17 PM
It's not water and when they go under it it means that they have swim through it to get above it and out of the sewer system. Not to mention the fact that their clothes are trenched in it.

There is nothing unrealistic about the monkey scene; it's just bad. A fridge that is lead lined would protect you from a nuke. And it's not geeting out of a tank on time; it's the fact that the tank was already half way down the cliff before he jumped off and in the wide shot we don't even see him doing it.

kerosene always burns on top.. think about your logic there for a second...

and seriously? you know spider-monkeys that will randomly show a human in 2 seconds, how to swing and show him the right direction, realize who your after and attack that target? :huh:

Dr.Doom
05-25-2008, 09:17 PM
I watched TOD last night and Raiders this morning. gonna watch LC tomorrow. Then KOTCS on Tuesday
Why out of order? (release wise)

Untilteld
05-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Why out of order? (release wise)

Temple: 1935
Raiders: 1936
Crusade: 1938
Crystal: 1957

Darthphere
05-25-2008, 09:30 PM
Merkowned!

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 09:34 PM
Why out of order? (release wise)

Go here for further explaination

Temple of Doom a Prequel? (http://boards.theforce.net/lucasfilm_projects_indiana_jones_4/b10265/28450596/p1/?25)

Its quite interesting as you read all the posts...

DarknessOfDeath
05-25-2008, 09:38 PM
I have a user name on there, Anakin_Skywalker20

Untilteld
05-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Merkowned!

:heart::heart:

chaseter
05-25-2008, 10:52 PM
I just watched it a second time and it is much better the second go around. Still hated the Mutt-monkey part. However, I have a new theory about the alienforming at the end and it is as follows:

When objects spin in a cirlce in a fast motion, the objects appear as one, which goes along with the separate being but one consciousness line. This is the part when the skulls begin to show Irina everything. After everyone is dead but Irina, we see the true Alien...only Irina sees the alien. However, I think it is all in her head. The aliens were dead yet all that remained were their skeletons, imprinted with their history and their powers...the same as the current crystal skull legend that they hold information that once we have the technology to read them, we will understand their technologies and advance our own civilization. Therefore, I don't think a true alien formed at the end but was just a manifestation from the 13 sepearate skulls whose powers (their eyes) killed

Cagefighterkip
05-25-2008, 10:56 PM
I just watched it a second time and it is much better the second go around. Still hated the Mutt-monkey part. However, I have a new theory about the alienforming at the end and it is as follows:

When objects spin in a cirlce in a fast motion, the objects appear as one, which goes along with the separate being but one consciousness line. This is the part when the skulls begin to show Irina everything. After everyone is dead but Irina, we see the true Alien...only Irina sees the alien. However, I think it is all in her head. The aliens were dead yet all that remained were their skeletons, imprinted with their history and their powers...the same as the current crystal skull legend that they hold information that once we have the technology to read them, we will understand their technologies and advance our own civilization. Therefore, I don't think a true alien formed at the end but was just a manifestation from the 13 sepearate skulls whose powers (their eyes) killed


agree w/yer theory... loved it even more the 2nd time and the only thing i can say i truly disliked was the monkeys swinging w/mutt... didnt even mind mutt swinging (mutt using vines reminded me of indy using the whip)... i just hate those obviously cg monkeys... 9 out of 10 (it was an 8.5 out of ten)

Marx
05-25-2008, 10:57 PM
I just watched it a second time and it is much better the second go around. Still hated the Mutt-monkey part. However, I have a new theory about the alienforming at the end and it is as follows:

When objects spin in a cirlce in a fast motion, the objects appear as one, which goes along with the separate being but one consciousness line. This is the part when the skulls begin to show Irina everything. After everyone is dead but Irina, we see the true Alien...only Irina sees the alien. However, I think it is all in her head. The aliens were dead yet all that remained were their skeletons, imprinted with their history and their powers...the same as the current crystal skull legend that they hold information that once we have the technology to read them, we will understand their technologies and advance our own civilization. Therefore, I don't think a true alien formed at the end but was just a manifestation from the 13 sepearate skulls whose powers (their eyes) killed


And you then explain the SPACE SHIP rising out of the ground and flying away how???

Cagefighterkip
05-25-2008, 10:59 PM
And you then explain the SPACE SHIP rising out of the ground and flying away how???

maybe its a mind control thing, w/all the ideas of psychic stuff its not far fetched w/the big brains of the aliens yknow?

Matt Murdock
05-25-2008, 11:01 PM
Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, people.

Cagefighterkip
05-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, people.

sorry

Matt Murdock
05-25-2008, 11:04 PM
No need to be sorry! :)

I just don't want any indy fans to have their experience ruined.

Joker
05-25-2008, 11:06 PM
And you then explain the SPACE SHIP rising out of the ground and flying away how???

putting the skull back automatically activated the DIMENSIONAL (not space) ship

Warhammer
05-25-2008, 11:09 PM
The flaws I had with this movie:

- The Mutt Williams swinging with the monkeys scene. I was rolling my eyes on that one.
- Ray Winstone's character was a complete waste. It was shocking when we found out he was working with the Soviets. It was a bit dumb when we found out that he was a double agent. I was rolling my eyes when we find out he was just working for the Soviets again. Mac was a complete waste to me.
- The alien background and the true origin of the crystal skull just seemed so out there to me (at first). However, after thinking about it, it wasn't so weird anymore. I realized that when you think about it, the alien/crystal skull mythos is no weirder than the Ark of the Covenant unleashing it's power on the Nazi's, or the actions in the temple of doom, or drinking from the Holy Grail. I'll just say it was interesting, and fresh.
- I didn't think the villains were as good as the Nazi's.

All in all, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a worthy addition to the Indiana Jones franchise. It was a honorable sequel, and though it was not as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark or Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, it was still a blast, and it was great to see Indiana Jones one more time.

Rating:

3 out of 4 stars

:up:

Warhammer
05-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Here is one question that I'd like some feedback on from fellow Indy fans. There is no right or wrong answer with this. Here it is:

Was the whole alien/crystal skull mythos in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that much of a stretch compared to the previous movies?

Matt Murdock
05-25-2008, 11:17 PM
Here is one question that I'd like some feedback on from fellow Indy fans. There is no right or wrong answer with this. Here it is:

Was the whole alien/crystal skull mythos in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that much of a stretch compared to the previous movies?

Not at all, in my opinion. In some ways, it seemed somewhat more plausible to me, to be honest. I mean, which is more likely? Humanity being the only self-sustaining, self-aware, intelligent species in the ever-expanding universe, or an all-powerful, all-knowing being, whose only son was sent to earth and bled into a cub that subsequently gave everlasting life?

In my humble, atheist, opinion, the former is, perhaps, more likely than the latter.

Marx
05-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Here is one question that I'd like some feedback on from fellow Indy fans. There is no right or wrong answer with this. Here it is:

Was the whole alien/crystal skull mythos in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that much of a stretch compared to the previous movies?

I wouldn't say that it's that much of a stretch...I just think it went too far. To be completely honest with you, Indy has always been after religious artifacts...I guess I just have a hard time seeing aliens and space ships in an Indiana Jones movie.

Avangarde
05-25-2008, 11:28 PM
Here is one question that I'd like some feedback on from fellow Indy fans. There is no right or wrong answer with this. Here it is:

Was the whole alien/crystal skull mythos in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that much of a stretch compared to the previous movies?

Well it was always IMO that the Ark was an alien communication device (Indy said it was used for talking to God/Alien), so it really isn't that much of a stretch. Considering a lot of Myths these days are often thought to have some kind of other worldly relationship, eg Gods from the Heavens/ Aliens from the sky, came down in there chariots of fire/ arived in there space ships.

SodaPop
05-25-2008, 11:29 PM
Here is one question that I'd like some feedback on from fellow Indy fans. There is no right or wrong answer with this. Here it is:

Was the whole alien/crystal skull mythos in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that much of a stretch compared to the previous movies?
At first I hated it, but after thinking about it, it wasnt too much of a stretch. I just kinda wish he would've gone after the spear of destiny, instead.

Speedball
05-25-2008, 11:39 PM
K...Saw is yesterday.
Loved, except for the dumb monkey part.
That's why I gave it a 9.
I could actually stand Shia in this movie...but I didn't really like Ray Winstone's character.
His motivations behind things just did not make sense at all.

The Kid
05-25-2008, 11:45 PM
mac is the willie of this indy movie

BloodyWolverine
05-25-2008, 11:47 PM
The Temple Of Doom is a good example here to fallow honestly for they were no Christian artifact atleast not to my knowledge and i don't claim to be a artifact expert here.
Also Whats not cool about teh tempel breaking away and the disc liek ship rising up.That had to be one of the coolest looking alien ships and it so matched the 50's spaceship paranoia and thsi movie fith the 50s well as an indy film

BloodyWolverine
05-25-2008, 11:49 PM
K...Saw is yesterday.
Loved, except for the dumb monkey part.
That's why I gave it a 9.
I could actually stand Shia in this movie...but I didn't really like Ray Winstone's character.
His motivations behind things just did not make sense at all.
Sure it did his influence was greed nothing more then that. it was not about the russians or america's side.

The Kid
05-25-2008, 11:49 PM
the ship was from The Day the Earth Stood Still, I think.

check it oooooouuuutttaaahh

OfpSXI8_UpY

BloodyWolverine
05-25-2008, 11:51 PM
yeah i thaught so but still it matched perfectly with teh 50's and it was a cool ship effect as it rouse. I think honestly how the ship activated and rouse was the dementional gate kinda activated a auto pilot like system of the ship to take it home when all the skulls being alien heads had been in place.

chaseter
05-25-2008, 11:52 PM
And you then explain the SPACE SHIP rising out of the ground and flying away how???
The skull had magnetic, psychic, and other properties. Returning it to the site probably activated its return to their homeworld as they probably wanted it to.

chaseter
05-25-2008, 11:55 PM
The Temple Of Doom is a good example here to fallow honestly for they were no Christian artifact atleast not to my knowledge and i don't claim to be a artifact expert here.
Also Whats not cool about teh tempel breaking away and the disc liek ship rising up.That had to be one of the coolest looking alien ships and it so matched the 50's spaceship paranoia and thsi movie fith the 50s well as an indy film
Your spoiler is a great point that I didn't even think about in the design of the ship:wow: Look at all the alien movies from that time and they look just like the one in the movie did. Great catch.

Marx
05-25-2008, 11:57 PM
The skull had magnetic, psychic, and other properties. Returning it to the site probably activated its return to their homeworld as they probably wanted it to.

I suppose that's possible. I still think it was all a little too much over the top. I'll have to see it again...now that I know what's coming.

chaseter
05-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Sure it did his influence was greed nothing more then that. it was not about the russians or america's side.
Yea he mentioned that it wasn't about flags or lines on a map were his direct words I believe. He was just in it for the money and whichever side gave the biggest payout.

As for the discussion a few pages back about whether Mutt says Mary or Marion...he says Mary each time to which Indy responds that he has known many Mary's.

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:00 AM
I suppose that's possible. I still think it was all a little too much over the top. I'll have to see it again...now that I know what's coming.
I agree that it was over the top, I am just trying to rationalize it in a form that is deeper than what most people think and automatically hate this movie because of it. I however cannot rationalize the monkeys:o

Punisher RULES
05-26-2008, 12:01 AM
Just saw this. Thought I'd share.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_2002_138723045

Avangarde
05-26-2008, 12:03 AM
Gold :up:

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:04 AM
Gold :up:
Bronze:o:woot:

It is also interesting to see that most people, from what I have seen in here, that really enjoyed TOD hated CS. Those who thought TOD was mediocre really enjoyed this movie.

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:09 AM
I love TOD and I love CS. CS just would have been better with some Short Round :cmad:

Marx
05-26-2008, 12:11 AM
I agree that it was over the top, I am just trying to rationalize it in a form that is deeper than what most people think and automatically hate this movie because of it. I however cannot rationalize the monkeys:o

That's because there is no way to rationalize it Chase! :cwink:



On a side note, did anyone else think that the Indy 4 monkeys looked exactly like the monkeys from Jumanji???

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 12:11 AM
Two more confusions I have


1. What exactly was the alien's purpose on Earth? They evidently came to teach the ancient people about sciences and such... Then what happened? Did they stay and teach until they died and rotted away? So the ancients built a temple/shrine for them, but someone stole a skull from within the walls (That could only be opened with a skull) And the alien skull told whoever had it to bring it back? Why didn't the skulls do their inter-dimensional thing when they were all together before, after teaching the humans?
I just don't really get what the movie is trying to say about this alien species. They go to planets and teach the inhabitants great wisdom, then die and have shrines built around them?

2. Why exactly did the FBI stop looking at Indy as a suspect? That whole storyline completely disappeared. For some reason after Indy's adventure (Of which he has no hard evidence any of it occurred) The dean is re-established and Indy is taken out of FBI suspicion? Why? What changed in the FBI's mindset since the beginning of the film? Frankly, Indy going on a little Amazon tour with a bunch of Russians is a lot more suspicious then him escaping a warehouse full of them.

Warhammer
05-26-2008, 12:12 AM
So what was the little Star Wars nod in this movie that some posters were talking about a while back? Was it the lightsaber noise? If it was, then...

:o

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 12:13 AM
So what was the little Star Wars nod in this movie that some posters were talking about a while back? Was it the lightsaber noise? If it was, then...

:o

Harrison saying "I have a bad feeling about this."

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:15 AM
Two more confusions I have


1. What exactly was the alien's purpose on Earth? They evidently came to teach the ancient people about sciences and such... Then what happened? Did they stay and teach until they died and rotted away? So the ancients built a temple/shrine for them, but someone stole a skull from within the walls (That could only be opened with a skull) And the alien skull told whoever had it to bring it back? Why didn't the skulls do their inter-dimensional thing when they were all together before, after teaching the humans?
I just don't really get what the movie is trying to say about this alien species. They go to planets and teach the inhabitants great wisdom, then die and have shrines built around them?

2. Why exactly did the FBI stop looking at Indy as a suspect? That whole storyline completely disappeared. For some reason after Indy's adventure (Of which he has no hard evidence any of it occurred) The dean is re-established and Indy is taken out of FBI suspicion? Why? What changed in the FBI's mindset since the beginning of the film? Frankly, Indy going on a little Amazon tour with a bunch of Russians is a lot more suspicious then him escaping a warehouse full of them.





1. They're aliens. Of course what they do is going to seem weird to us, cause they're ALIENS. And I figure yes, they probably died, had the temple built around them, and had a skull stolen, which probably then made the mayans up their security system to the skull-key one seen.

2. He had the testimony of Ox, plus the fact that the Russians he went in with were all dead.

Boom
05-26-2008, 12:16 AM
Okay, here are my thoughts (they're a bit jumbled):

1) Blanchett and Ford carried this movie. LaBeouf was okay. Everybody else was incredibly weak. Ray Winstone's character was a complete waste. A cardboard cutout of the typical buffoon that's meant to keep audiences thinking, "Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy? Wha???" Yawn.
2) The scene with Ford surviving the nuclear detonation in a lead-lined refrigerator. The impact from the fridge hitting the ground after being launched through the air SHOULD have killed him.
3) The whole relationship with Jones and Ravenwood seemed lifeless and tacked on. An aspect that should've been handled more appropriately or removed altogether.
4) Tarzan LaBeouf. WOW :whatever:.
5) It felt like this movie lost the magic that made the first three installments so great, and that is that the stunts were practical and, at the very least, looked plausible. What did this movie have? A CGI-heavy car chase scene with two characters seemingly defying physics by fencing atop of two vehicles traveling at least 40 miles per hour, with absolutely no difficulty keeping balance.
6) It may just be me, but it seemed like Indy really wasn't the focus of this film. At times it seemed like Oxy was the main character.
7) Wasn't a fan of Blanchett's character bursting into flames from an overload of information.
8) I will say, I am a sucker for alien flicks. I love the concept, and this take on the mythos is something fresh to me, so the film definitely gets points for that. I also loved the design of the aliens, and how they were very subtle and humanoid in appearance (very much like the Roswell Alien). If anyone happens to have a picture of the KOTCS alien, I'd appreciate it.

Overally, despite its obvious flaws and my excessive nitpicking, it's still a passable, fun, and entertaining movie. At the very least I am going to see it again in theaters tomorrow.

6/10

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 12:19 AM
2. He had the testimony of Ox, plus the fact that the Russians he went in with were all dead.

He had the testimony of that general guy in the beginning and the FBI didn't believe him. Nothing about the Crystal Skull adventure proves that Indiana isn't a communist. I just don't like that it was introduced that the FBI were suspicious of Indy and would be watching him closely, then they never show up again.

The Kid
05-26-2008, 12:20 AM
Get that greaser!

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:22 AM
Get that greaser!

I LOVE that part.

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:23 AM
He had the testimony of that general guy in the beginning and the FBI didn't believe him. Nothing about the Crystal Skull adventure proves that Indiana isn't a communist. I just don't like that it was introduced that the FBI were suspicious of Indy and would be watching him closely, then they never show up again.

The suspicious FBI agent quit the agency to fulfull his life long dream...of becoming Dr. Jan Itor

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 12:24 AM
The suspicious FBI agent quit the agency to fulfull his life long dream...of becoming Dr. Jan Itor

He looked a lot older and wider then he does on the show.. Maybe he bulked up... and aged... in a method sort of way to become a 50's FBI agent.

It was tough taking him seriously. "But.. Does he deserve them?"

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:25 AM
He looked a lot older and wider then he does on the show.. Maybe he bulked up... and aged... in a method sort of way to become a 50's FBI agent.

It was tough taking him seriously. "But.. Does he deserve them?"

I kept expecting him to have the Brain Trust come in to discuss Indy's loyalties :)

Boom
05-26-2008, 12:25 AM
The suspicious FBI agent quit the agency to fulfull his life long dream...of becoming Dr. Jan Itor
One of the greatest aspects of the movie.

I flipped out when I saw him.

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:26 AM
Two more confusions I have


1. What exactly was the alien's purpose on Earth? They evidently came to teach the ancient people about sciences and such... Then what happened? Did they stay and teach until they died and rotted away? So the ancients built a temple/shrine for them, but someone stole a skull from within the walls (That could only be opened with a skull) And the alien skull told whoever had it to bring it back? Why didn't the skulls do their inter-dimensional thing when they were all together before, after teaching the humans?
I just don't really get what the movie is trying to say about this alien species. They go to planets and teach the inhabitants great wisdom, then die and have shrines built around them?

2. Why exactly did the FBI stop looking at Indy as a suspect? That whole storyline completely disappeared. For some reason after Indy's adventure (Of which he has no hard evidence any of it occurred) The dean is re-established and Indy is taken out of FBI suspicion? Why? What changed in the FBI's mindset since the beginning of the film? Frankly, Indy going on a little Amazon tour with a bunch of Russians is a lot more suspicious then him escaping a warehouse full of them.


1. They were archaeologists as Indy said. I guess they spent their time with the Mayans until they died. I would say that the temple was built when they were there. If you noticed, the door to the inner chamber could only be opened with magnetism of their crystal body as their skeleton was painted on the door and the skull opened it when it was close. My guess is that they loved the early humans and collected artifacts and later died of old age. Future aliens (Roswell, the ones in Russia) must have been looking for them Irina said and said that they must have something in common.

2. My guess is that Irina was dead and after Indy hopped off the train...I am sure the FBI thought he was headed to New York and London from his original plans lost track of him. Since the Russians big psychic weapon line ended with Irina and the now gone skulls, I am sure they got off of his case. You have to realize that during this time everyone was scared of communists and if you recall infamous trial like the Rosenberg...people were naming names left and right. The colonel that vouched for Indy may also have stopped the hunt on him after a while.

Spider-Vader
05-26-2008, 12:27 AM
Indy 4 third at the box office with 25M...Unless its doing good on DVD there s not gonna be a 5th movie

All-Time Thursday:
1 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
2 The Matrix Reloaded
3 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
4 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $25,041,072 4,260 $5,878 5/22/08 1 $25.0 $126.0

All-Time Friday:
1 Spider-Man 3
2 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
3 X-Men: The Last Stand
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
5 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
6 Spider-Man
7 Shrek the Third
8 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
9 Iron Man
10 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
11 Spider-Man 2
12 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
13 The Matrix Reloaded
14 X2: X-Men United
15 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $31,000,000 4,260 $7,277 5/23/08 2 $56.0

All-Time Saturday:
Spider-Man 3
2 Shrek the Third
3 Shrek 2
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
5 Spider-Man
6 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
7 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
8 Iron Man
9 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $37,000,000 4,260 $8,685 5/24/08 3 $93.0 $126.0

All-Time Sunday:
All-Time Sunday:
1 Spider-Man 3
2 Shrek the Third
3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
4 Shrek 2
5 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
6 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
7 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $33,000,000 4,260 $7,746 5/25/08 4 $126.0 $126.0
8 Spider-Man
9 The Passion of the Christ
10 The Lost World: Jurassic Park
11 The Matrix Reloaded
12 Iron Man

It also booted Iron Man off the #1 spot for the year's biggest opening weekend.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 12:31 AM
Two more confusions I have


1. What exactly was the alien's purpose on Earth? They evidently came to teach the ancient people about sciences and such... Then what happened? Did they stay and teach until they died and rotted away? So the ancients built a temple/shrine for them, but someone stole a skull from within the walls (That could only be opened with a skull) And the alien skull told whoever had it to bring it back? Why didn't the skulls do their inter-dimensional thing when they were all together before, after teaching the humans?
I just don't really get what the movie is trying to say about this alien species. They go to planets and teach the inhabitants great wisdom, then die and have shrines built around them?

2. Why exactly did the FBI stop looking at Indy as a suspect? That whole storyline completely disappeared. For some reason after Indy's adventure (Of which he has no hard evidence any of it occurred) The dean is re-established and Indy is taken out of FBI suspicion? Why? What changed in the FBI's mindset since the beginning of the film? Frankly, Indy going on a little Amazon tour with a bunch of Russians is a lot more suspicious then him escaping a warehouse full of them.



Well i am answering question 2 first and my guess is this. Indy seemed to be a I like Ike supporter and Indy seemed to have some military pull so my guess is under the table teh president may have held back there choke collar to give Indy a breather.

As for the aliens purpose on earth Indy kinda answers it if you pay attention as to why they were there.My guess is they were like Indy thats why they prefered him and Ox to return the skull to teh temple they were archyologist race.They seeked knowledge likely of our primative world and likely tought the Indians there friends how to become a more easier way to live. My guess is also whos to say the crystal form is not there true form and the alien green skin was what they used for us to see. Lets say they were in dorment sleep and someone stole ones skull and when one is not whole the other would not leave so they waited for there brothers return and when they were whole there minds opened the dementional aget which activated the ship auto pilote function.
I know its crazy idea but hey were talking aliens here not people.

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 12:32 AM
I kept expecting him to have the Brain Trust come in to discuss Indy's loyalties :)

If only the other FBI agent was Johnny C...

Joker
05-26-2008, 12:32 AM
Yeah, Indy was #1...not #3 with only $25...it made $25 on Thursday ALONE.

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Indiana has pulled in about 270 million worldwide in 4 days and will probably be the second biggest Memorial day weekend opener ever right behind POTC:AWE. Poor Caspian has only made 140 million worldwide and Iron Man has made about 480 million so Indy is moving on along.

Spider-Vader
05-26-2008, 12:38 AM
Narnia can be considered a bomb right? I mean didn't the first one make as much as Indy by this time?

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:41 AM
Narnia can be considered a bomb right? I mean didn't the first one make as much as Indy by this time?
I thought the first made more than this but yea it's a bad blow for the series as it won't make much more money. It needs to be released in the fall/winter anyways.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 12:45 AM
My guess Indy will end up at 450-500 million world wide. It could be close to Iron Man and may make more but who knows.

chaseter
05-26-2008, 12:47 AM
My guess Indy will end up at 450-500 million world wide. It could be close to Iron Man and may make more but who knows.
I would guess that this tops out at around 400 million and would be a stretch to reach 450. It won't beat Iron Man but it is already churning a profit.

Marx
05-26-2008, 12:51 AM
Narnia can be considered a bomb right? I mean didn't the first one make as much as Indy by this time?

I thought the first made more than this but yea it's a bad blow for the series as it won't make much more money. It needs to be released in the fall/winter anyways.

Narnia didn't bomb. It has become a victim of bad placement. These movies should be released later in the year, not for a summer blockbuster. That being said, the series will continue. (As it should.)

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 12:53 AM
You place any movie between a Marvel Comicbook and Indiana Jones movie and you can expect this.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 12:54 AM
I would guess that this tops out at around 400 million and would be a stretch to reach 450. It won't beat Iron Man but it is already churning a profit.
Are you saying this will only make 200 million domestically and usually Lucas films make more world wide well except for Russia in this case.

chaseter
05-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Are you saying this will only make 200 million domestically and usually Lucas films make more world wide well except for Russia in this case.
HAHA...they painted the Russians in a sexy Cate Blanchett light though:o

I would say so yes because the summer line up is jam packed. Iron Man was a surprise hit and I do think was a better overall movie. I still stick to my a little over 400 million and would do good leveling out at 450 but no way this is going over 500.

spideyboy_1111
05-26-2008, 01:02 AM
1. They're aliens. Of course what they do is going to seem weird to us, cause they're ALIENS. And I figure yes, they probably died, had the temple built around them, and had a skull stolen, which probably then made the mayans up their security system to the skull-key one seen.

2. He had the testimony of Ox, plus the fact that the Russians he went in with were all dead.

mayans wouldn't have the tech to wire a door with alien skull tech :o

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 01:12 AM
HAHA...they painted the Russians in a sexy Cate Blanchett light though:o

I would say so yes because the summer line up is jam packed. Iron Man was a surprise hit and I do think was a better overall movie. I still stick to my a little over 400 million and would do good leveling out at 450 but no way this is going over 500.
Well if Indy makes 140 thats after memorial day After next weekend indy 4 shoudl be at 200 million that be my guess.

Boom
05-26-2008, 02:15 AM
I want to know something...

The alien skeletons were magnetized. But how come the soldiers' guns were unaffected inside the wearhouse?

Joker
05-26-2008, 02:22 AM
I want to know something...

The alien skeletons were magnetized. But how come the soldiers' guns were unaffected inside the wearhouse?

I have an answer...Who cares?

spideyboy_1111
05-26-2008, 02:22 AM
I want to know something...

The alien skeletons were magnetized. But how come the soldiers' guns were unaffected inside the wearhouse?

it's called a major plot hole :o

StrainedEyes
05-26-2008, 02:24 AM
All that seemed really effected by the magnetized skeletons were gold coins and gun powder... for whatever reason.

Joker
05-26-2008, 02:26 AM
All that seemed really effected by the magnetized skeletons were gold coins and gun powder... for whatever reason.

nah, the dog tags moved towards the coffin after they got the wood off, the crowbars stuck to it, and Mutts razor flew into the skull...I figure the guns were probably being pulled towards it, but seeing as they were holding the guns, they didnt let them fly out of their hands like retards

DACrowe
05-26-2008, 02:27 AM
I saw it again last night. I actually enjoyed it more the second time and not because "I lowered expectations." It is because I simply went with some friends who hadn't seen it and quit worrying how it compares to the originals, or if I like the aliens plot, or if there is too much CGI, too many critters, etc.

I just watched it like the old days and what these movies are made for: I let it wash over me. It is one wild ****ing ride. I love little bits in thsi movie such as "Yeah, I like Ike!" or the entire stretch of film that is set in the university, especially "get that greaser!"

I am pleased to see Marion back. She and Indy have great chemistry and Shia did remarkably well as the son of Indy. Their "family" moments are great. I liked the quicksand bit and the big chase (sans the vine swinging).

In the end it is still an 8/10 because of an anticlimactic ending and a less than engrossing macguffin. It lacked the scope or sense of versimilitude in its wonderous adventure that the previous three pictures had. But I think it is a worthy sequel to them. It is done for old time' sake and for us, the audience, to have a blast. We are on a wild ride with Indiana Jones again and it kicks ass. It is still better than most action adventure fare out there. It is a creative reunion for Speilberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. It is just a kick. I could dissect the problems which I think stem more and more from David Koepp's habit of writing craftsmanlike scripts as opposed to having a Lawarance Kasadan onboard.

But it is done as a nice capper (f there are no more) on Indy's life. We see him marry Marion and it is a nice touch (though I wish Short Round and Sallah appeared at the wedding). It is not running on nostalgia fumes like Live Free or Die Hard and Rocky VI did, but it is more a love letter to the concept and the series.

The first three have a magic that is hard to beat and much better (and more serious) stories, yet unlike SW prequels I don't feel like Indy IV hurts the originals. It is a minor adventure in his life and an epilogue to the character. Combined with the Young Indiana Jones series we have a serial of one great badass and this was more "Indiana Jones 20 Years later." It wasn't as deep or involving as the adventures of his prime, but it felt right and left me with a grin.

Krozee
05-26-2008, 03:11 AM
I've seen it 3 times, and loved it more and more each time, however the 3rd viewing was an accident...

The Man of Steel
05-26-2008, 03:16 AM
How?

The Man of Steel
05-26-2008, 03:17 AM
I've seen it now 5 times and plan on seeing it again next week

Wolverini
05-26-2008, 03:41 AM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/a/0/aa01b783eaa2d549d3b425edfccc8b0c.gif

Fading
05-26-2008, 04:13 AM
Put me in the crowd of ppl that liked it more with a second viewing. First time around some things dissapointed me, but second time around they didn't bother me as bad for some reason...aside from the gophers that is. So ya, saw it twice (first with friends, second with family), and it did get better with a second pass. Of course I think that's something all the Indiana Jones movies have, no matter how many times you view them they don't seem to get old.

arachnid-guy
05-26-2008, 04:19 AM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/a/0/aa01b783eaa2d549d3b425edfccc8b0c.gif


HAHA! :P

Krozee
05-26-2008, 04:36 AM
How?

I was gonna go see What Happens In vegas with a friend of mine, but she took forever to get ready so we missed that showing and saw Indy instead.

The Amazing Lee
05-26-2008, 04:50 AM
Going to see this today. :woot:

BlackLantern
05-26-2008, 04:53 AM
I like Cate Blanchett and wasn't happy about her being in some crappy gray coveralls.....that and she looked like a pissed off Dakota Fanning with that wig on....

spideyboy_1111
05-26-2008, 05:11 AM
I like Cate Blanchett and wasn't happy about her being in some crappy gray coveralls.....that and she looked like a pissed off Dakota Fanning with that wig on....

bwahahahaaa! sooooo true

ultimatefan
05-26-2008, 06:00 AM
I saw it again last night. I actually enjoyed it more the second time and not because "I lowered expectations." It is because I simply went with some friends who hadn't seen it and quit worrying how it compares to the originals, or if I like the aliens plot, or if there is too much CGI, too many critters, etc.

I just watched it like the old days and what these movies are made for: I let it wash over me. It is one wild ****ing ride. I love little bits in thsi movie such as "Yeah, I like Ike!" or the entire stretch of film that is set in the university, especially "get that greaser!"

I am pleased to see Marion back. She and Indy have great chemistry and Shia did remarkably well as the son of Indy. Their "family" moments are great. I liked the quicksand bit and the big chase (sans the vine swinging).

In the end it is still an 8/10 because of an anticlimactic ending and a less than engrossing macguffin. It lacked the scope or sense of versimilitude in its wonderous adventure that the previous three pictures had. But I think it is a worthy sequel to them. It is done for old time' sake and for us, the audience, to have a blast. We are on a wild ride with Indiana Jones again and it kicks ass. It is still better than most action adventure fare out there. It is a creative reunion for Speilberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. It is just a kick. I could dissect the problems which I think stem more and more from David Koepp's habit of writing craftsmanlike scripts as opposed to having a Lawarance Kasadan onboard.

But it is done as a nice capper (f there are no more) on Indy's life. We see him marry Marion and it is a nice touch (though I wish Short Round and Sallah appeared at the wedding). It is not running on nostalgia fumes like Live Free or Die Hard and Rocky VI did, but it is more a love letter to the concept and the series.

The first three have a magic that is hard to beat and much better (and more serious) stories, yet unlike SW prequels I don't feel like Indy IV hurts the originals. It is a minor adventure in his life and an epilogue to the character. Combined with the Young Indiana Jones series we have a serial of one great badass and this was more "Indiana Jones 20 Years later." It wasn't as deep or involving as the adventures of his prime, but it felt right and left me with a grin.

Yeah, back in the old days it was just about letting the movie flow and get engaged in it. Maybe itīs the Internet or whatever, but people these days get way too overanalysing and pick every little thing apart. I canīt stand to read another word about CGI, for instance.

ultimatefan
05-26-2008, 06:01 AM
Well, even if the movie didnīt quite open to industry expectations - which often get pretty inflated anyway - second best memorial weekend ever still would be a remarkable achievement in these days of frontloaded blockbusters. Letīs see how it plays from now on.

Dr.Doom
05-26-2008, 07:28 AM
Temple: 1935
Raiders: 1936
Crusade: 1938
Crystal: 1957

Merkowned!
Not really, I clearly posted "Release Wise" not "Continuity Wise"

marty mcfly
05-26-2008, 07:58 AM
i thought this movie was awesome. and i guess i should thank you guys (and girls) because i knew going into it about mutt swinging on the vines with the monkeys and that the story was about aliens so when those scenes happened i wasn't upset about it. i was actually pleasantly surprised at how good everything was despite hearing fanboys say that those were the stupidest parts in the whole series.

Matt Murdock
05-26-2008, 09:09 AM
Asking people to use spoiler tags in this thread is a hopeless battle.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 09:13 AM
I never said they were stupid parts at all sure the swinging monkey attack as shia was swinging is a bit far fetched but i didn't find it too annoying.

What was your favorite parts of this movie anyways? Any Indy fan of the film can answer.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 09:14 AM
Asking people to use spoiler tags in this thread is a hopeless battle.
I did try too if i remember.

The Chris
05-26-2008, 09:26 AM
I never said they were stupid parts at all sure the swinging monkey attack as shia was swinging is a bit far fetched but i didn't find it too annoying.

What was your favorite parts of this movie anyways? Any Indy fan of the film can answer.

The warehouse scene (especially Indy's stunts, and seeing the ark)
Diner scene (get that greaser)
Bike scene
Any thing that dealt with Indy and Mutt investigating remains. Those type of scenes were my favorite of Raiders and Crusade
Indy and Marion's reunion
sandpit scene
All the jungle stuff (can take the swinging stuff, because the rest was so awesome)
BIG DAMN ANTS!
On repeat viewage, I'm digging the kingdom of the crystal skull stuff very well, the imagination of it, from the closing in stair case, to how the key opened, to the sets inside the ship.
Last scene. That's my hat type of thing.

TLH
05-26-2008, 09:29 AM
You know, for all of the supposed "bashing of this film", a majority of the people on this poll have voted 7 or higher, giving the film about an average rating of about er...7.8ish? on this forum; on IMDB the film is at 7.6; Rottentomatoes has the film at just barely under 80%

So all in all I think the hate for the film is more an illusion than anything. The people that hated it just seem to be sticking out more and are far more vocal.

ultimatefan
05-26-2008, 09:37 AM
You know, for all of the supposed "bashing of this film", a majority of the people on this poll have voted 7 or higher, giving the film about an average rating of about er...7.8ish? on this forum; on IMDB the film is at 7.6; Rottentomatoes has the film at just barely under 80%

So all in all I think the hate for the film is more an illusion than anything. The people that hated it just seem to be sticking out more and are far more vocal.

Most people clearly enjoyed the film, but you always have those obsessive geeks who pick the thing apart so much and so insistently that it seems like thereīs a lot more complaining than there really is.

terry78
05-26-2008, 09:41 AM
Nobody can have fun at the theatre anymore. Everything is too cynical nowadays.

Golgo-13
05-26-2008, 09:43 AM
Put me in the crowd of ppl that liked it more with a second viewing. First time around some things dissapointed me, but second time around they didn't bother me as bad for some reason...aside from the gophers that is. So ya, saw it twice (first with friends, second with family), and it did get better with a second pass. Of course I think that's something all the Indiana Jones movies have, no matter how many times you view them they don't seem to get old.

Someone explain to me the hatred for the Prairie Dogs. They didn't bother me AT all. In fact, i though they looked pretty good, considering they were CG.

Hoedowned
05-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Is it me or is the fridge starting to get it's own cult following?

Golgo-13
05-26-2008, 09:48 AM
Is it me or is the fridge starting to get it's own cult following?

It's a tribute to BTTF.

EternalMaster
05-26-2008, 10:05 AM
I gave it a 6. The acting and action was great (minus that retarded scene where Mutt has monkeys help him).

But the story was probably the weakest of all the films.

GhostPoet
05-26-2008, 10:07 AM
Nobody can have fun at the theatre anymore. Everything is too cynical nowadays.


I agree. My wife and I had a blast. And some of the scenes got a lot of laughs from the others in the theater.

I go to a movie first and for most to have fun and be entertained. This Indy film did just that.

GhostPoet
05-26-2008, 10:09 AM
The warehouse scene (especially Indy's stunts, and seeing the ark)
Diner scene (get that greaser)
Bike scene
Any thing that dealt with Indy and Mutt investigating remains. Those type of scenes were my favorite of Raiders and Crusade
Indy and Marion's reunion
sandpit scene
All the jungle stuff (can take the swinging stuff, because the rest was so awesome)
BIG DAMN ANTS!
On repeat viewage, I'm digging the kingdom of the crystal skull stuff very well, the imagination of it, from the closing in stair case, to how the key opened, to the sets inside the ship.
Last scene. That's my hat type of thing.

That pretty much sums up my favorite parts too. All though my wife would probably add the monkey scene, as she liked it. (of course, she doesn't have a giant cgi stick up her butt like some of the people here)

DarknessOfDeath
05-26-2008, 10:12 AM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/a/0/aa01b783eaa2d549d3b425edfccc8b0c.gif

Can I use this as my avvie? :D :p:hehe:

DarknessOfDeath
05-26-2008, 10:14 AM
I like Cate Blanchett and wasn't happy about her being in some crappy gray coveralls.....that and she looked like a pissed off Dakota Fanning with that wig on....


To me, when you look into her eyes - she's got this alien feel to her. Its kinda creepy :grin: Am I the only one who feels this way? All and all, Cate was great.

Rezzo
05-26-2008, 10:24 AM
Posted already?



Indiana Jones Reaches $269M Worldwide in 4 Days (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45426)

Paramount and Lucasfilm's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull earned an estimated $126 million from 4,260 theaters domestically in its first four days, while its international box office total has already reached $143 million from 8,300 locations (the sixth-biggest foreign debut of all-time). The worldwide total stands at $269 million with still another day to go in the four-day Memorial Day weekend.

"Indiana Jones" made an estimated $101 million from Friday to Sunday, plus $25 million from its opening Thursday. The studio expects the film to earn an additional $25 million in North American theaters on Monday which would bring the five-day domestic opening gross to $151 million. It would be the second-best Memorial Day opening ever trailing only last year's Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, which made $139.8 million for the four days and $153 million with a partial Thursday included.

Disney's The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian added $23 million in the Friday-to-Sunday frame to push its total to $91 million in its first 10 days. Internationally, "Prince Caspian" made $18 million and brought its tally to $49 million, for a worldwide total of $140 million.

Marvel Studios' Iron Man (released by Paramount) collected another $20.1 million from Friday to Sunday to bring its domestic sum to $257.8 million. Overseas, the comic book adaptation added $12.5 million to push its total to $228 million for a worldwide sum of $485.8 million.

Stay tuned for the full Memorial Day weekend estimates on Monday.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Yes someone did post it but does anyone here think sex and teh city will knock Indy off i hear haters say it will fall 60 % next weekend.

Arkady Rossovich
05-26-2008, 10:50 AM
Well,it looks like some think this movie doesn't have the past magic that other Indiana films had. As for myself,I'm divided on this.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 10:54 AM
It should atleast make 50 million next weekend and it should be around 200 million domestically. I am no expert on box office numbers but 50 million too 47 sounds about right but it could have Iron Man numbers.

terry78
05-26-2008, 10:57 AM
Yes someone did post it but does anyone here think sex and teh city will knock Indy off i hear haters say it will fall 60 % next weekend.

I wouldn't underestimate it. Sex and the City has a MASSIVE following. I wouldn't jump the gun just yet.

BloodyWolverine
05-26-2008, 11:00 AM
I know they have a fallowing thats why it would make me sick for i hate the show and woudl rather gouge out my eyes then watch Sex and The City on the big screen. I know it has a fallowing and thats the sad part but if Iron Man can hold on i would think Indy could.

DarknessOfDeath
05-26-2008, 11:05 AM
Entertainment Weekly had over 30 pages devoted to Sex and the City and it made me sick. Talk about overrated.