Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Tojo]

Yes i thought they had a couple of good scenes together but still, i guess i'm just disappointed but Raiders and Crusade are pretty hard to match.

I have a feeling that Oxley was originally supposed to be Connery's part as Indy's Dad again.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well while Connery was considered to be in Indy4 and even though they wanted him to have a role but alas Sean said if it weren't for enjoying retirement so much, he would have.

[The Man of Steel]

that makes me sad:(

[BloodyWolverine]

People say Sean wasn't in Indy 4 but in spirit it seemed lliek he was. Indys father was part of the movie even if he was gone death wise. Because Henry Jones Senior was mentioned and you saw his picture and At teh very end the wind blew the doors open and caused Indy hat to fall to Mutts feet. Like it was Indianas fathers spirit present.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Don't forget the part when Indy says "Your grandpa is probably laughing" or something along those lines.

Question, has anyone ordered anything before from the Official Indiana Jones site?? I plan on ordering the Fedora hat and I live in Canada. Im sending in a money order but my only concern is how long will the hat take to be shipped to me through Fedex International Economy...

any ideas?

[Ace Frehley]

Not sure but I was thinking of ordering the same thing - few weeks Id imagine

[DarknessOfDeath]

that makes me sad:(


sorry dad :(

[Cagefighterkip]

there were some great lines in this flick...

"you're going too fast!"/"thats a matter of opinion!"
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"I like Ike!"
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"they weren't you honey..."

[turtlefocker]

there were some great lines in this flick...

"you're going too fast!"/"thats a matter of opinion!"
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"I like Ike!"
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"they weren't you honey..."

I wasn't to fond of the "matter of opinion" line but those other two were really funny. There was some good physical humor and reaction humor too.

Overall it was a really fun movie.

[Rezzo]

Anyone experience this?



Indiana Jones Soundtrack Intentionally Muted In Theaters (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Indiana-Jones-Soundtrack-Intentionally-Muted-In-Theaters-9028.html)

The Hollywood machine’s war against piracy has now officially reached lunatic levels. Their latest effort to combat piracy may, if true, be their most foolish yet. What’s their latest tactic? Degrade the quality of their product.

They did it on prints of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and if you saw it in a theater, as just about everyone did, then you may have noticed a few spots where the sound mysteriously drops out during the picture. Most of you who did notice those odd silences in the soundtrack probably assumed there was something wrong with your theaters equipment, silently cursed the half-assed projectionist who was undoubtedly slacking off on his work, and then promptly forgot about them before you walked out of the theater. But those silences may not have been accidents.

Late last week, the website Boing Boing posted an email from a reader, who reported spotting a sign in the window of the box office at his local theater, which in short, warned moviegoers that Paramount Pictures had intentionally silenced parts of the Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull soundtrack. Their reason? They’re using the mute button as a method to stop movie pirates.

As far as I’ve been able to dig up crawling around the internet, these are called Audio Cap Codes, and it’s basically like Paramount creating it’s own bar coding system. Basically, each theater has its print of Indiana Jones 4 set for the sound to drop out at different places during the show, depending on the print. If someone makes a pirated copy from that print, then that pirated copy will have the sound drop out in the same spots, and thus Paramount knows in which theater the pirate copy was made.

My gut reaction is to assume this is nothing but a rumor. After all, how could any major Hollywood studio be so stupid? But maybe this really is happening. A little further research led me to the forums on a site called Film-Tech. There, the place is in an uproar over this, theater projectionists are gathering together there and getting seriously pissed off. As they should be. Worse, this may just be the tip of the iceberg. Apparently this is something they’ve been doing in Europe for several months. Now it’s coming to America.

Will this actually help fight piracy? I seriously doubt it. It will however, seriously piss off consumers. Forget about losing money from pirates, what about losing money from intentionally degrading your customer’s theater going experience? Quality viewing is really the only thing movie theaters have going for them. People show up at cinemas to see movies in the best way possible. Now, Paramount has chosen to throw that out the window. Instead you’ll pay ridiculous prices to see movies in the best format possible for stopping piracy. Frankly, I find this absolutely shocking. Note to Hollywood: Next time you start whining about falling ticket sales, remember this. It’s this attitude towards your customers that’s driving people away from the theater. You’re doing it to yourselves, you’re killing your consumers. Stop it. Believe it or not, there really are more important things than combating piracy.

[spideyboy_1111]

na, and i'd believe it to be false... i dont see how it would prevent anything.. and it'd just piss the people who payed for a ticket off

[chaseter]

No sound dropped at my theatre.

Pretty soon we are going to have armed theatre marshalls.

[X-Maniac]

I have a little article for you Indy lovers/haters...

It's always been a sort of urban myth that archaeologists love the Indiana image but hate the historical/professional inaccuracies... so I spoke to my local archaeology professor and did this article/blog about the comparisons between fact and movie.

Enjoy, discuss, add comments (hopefully!)....

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/06/fact-vs-fantasy-a-reallife-ind.html

[Magneto29]

I don't remember the sound dropping out at all. Regardless, I can't imagine that that would deter people from recording it. It's not like bootlegs have quality sound anyways.

[turtlefocker]

It's a movie... why would your career change how you view it? There isn't a single person on the planted over 6 years old that thinks Indy movies show real-life archeology...

[LostSon88]

It does however inspire some to become archeologists...like a friend of mine.

:cwink:

[BobJM]

I loved when Indy told Marion that the problem with all the other girls was that none of them were her.

It just makes me wish even more that Marion had a role in Temple of Doom or Last Crusade

[LostSon88]

I really got a kick out of the scene where Indy is in the "quicksand" and Mutt tosses him a "rope"...

I think what I got a kick out of the most was how they revisited Indy's fear of snakes and how freaked out he got everytime Mutt tried to toss it to him...

"Don't call it a snake! Call it something else!"

[The Man of Steel]

sorry dad :(
*sniff* I'll be alright Junior *sniff* I'll be allright :(

[Symbiotic]

No sound drop when I saw it.

[fu manchu]

i saw this over the weekend and rate it 7/10. its a good popcorn movie minus WTH moments.

[The Man of Steel]

No sound drop when I saw it.
me neither, but i still wish Connery had at least had a cameo at the wedding

[Spider-Vader]

Ditto. I don't get why'd they kill him off, who knows Connery might of returned for #5.

[BloodyWolverine]

He did have a cameo Connerys picture was in the movie.

[ThePenguin]

me neither, but i still wish Connery had at least had a cameo at the wedding

As soon as I left the theater that was the first thing I talked about. It would have been nice to see either him, Sallah, or Shorty in attendance.

[turtlefocker]

Having a shot of Sallah and a 30-year-old Asian man would have been perfect. Truly a wasted opportunity.

[DarknessOfDeath]

*shrugs* Well what can you do..?

You can't blame the people who made the movie just b/c they tried to bring Connery, John, and Short Round back. Atleast Jones Sr was mentioned.

[ThePenguin]

*shrugs* Well what can you do..?

You can't blame the people who made the movie just b/c they tried to bring Connery, John, and Short Round back. Atleast Jones Sr was mentioned.

Believe me, I'm not complaining.

I loved every minute of the movie. Indiana Jones is my favorite franchise of all time, bar none. As soon as the opening credits rolled, I could not stop grinning. I was just hoping for a cameo from those 3.

I knew Connery wasn't going to be in it due to all the articles about the film online. I do remember though hearing a story on ABC News that John Rhys-Davis would be involved, so you could only imagine how disappointed I was to see that wasn't true.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Let me confirm hopefully for the last time, Mr Connery was approached to be in Indy4 but didn't want to b/c he was enjoying retirement too much. I can't blame him for not wanting to return and certainly not those who did want him to be in the movie.

As for killing him off ... well, time has passed since The Last Crusade and Indy is now in his 50's or whatever, thus the death of Jones Sr.

I mean if they plan on doing more, perhaps that could do a few in between TLC and KOTCS... I doubt it but it was just a thought.

Atleast he was mentioned here and there throughout the movie. Even Marcus. :)

[The Man of Steel]

As soon as I left the theater that was the first thing I talked about. It would have been nice to see either him, Sallah, or Shorty in attendance.
it would have beenawesome to have them :(:csad:

[ThePenguin]

Let me confirm hopefully for the last time, I mean if they plan on doing more, perhaps that could do a few in between TLC and KOTCS... I doubt it but it was just a thought.

I would love to see that period of time turned into an animated series. Have you seen Patrick Shoenmaker's designs? They are beyond awesome:

http://patrickschoenmaker.blogspot.com/

[Rezzo]

I would love to see that period of time turned into an animated series. Have you seen Patrick Shoenmaker's designs? They are beyond awesome:

http://patrickschoenmaker.blogspot.com/

We all would love to see Patrick Schoenmaker's Indiana Jones art turned into an animated series. :up:

[DarknessOfDeath]

So who would like an avvie of the guy's whose heart gets taken out alive?

[The Man of Steel]

We all would love to see Patrick Schoenmaker's Indiana Jones art turned into an animated series. :up:
im sure that'll happen :up::indy::up:

[DarknessOfDeath]

it'll be nice if it happens.

[The Man of Steel]

it'll be nice if it happens.
It would be

[DarknessOfDeath]

It would be

now get on MSN :o

[That'ssuper!]

Watch it be obcessively CGI because Lucas wants to play around with it.

[Gold Samurai]

I would love to see that period of time turned into an animated series. Have you seen Patrick Shoenmaker's designs? They are beyond awesome:

http://patrickschoenmaker.blogspot.com/

When I saw those a month ago I thought it looked like disney's "Atlantis" movie

[DACrowe]

BTW has anyone here played Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine on N64? I ask this because I started replaying it and it is REALLY good. But it is also really challenging. I started a new game and in my "PS3-superior" skills it has taken me 8+ hours to get through the first five levels this week.

But it is really fun, outside of a being a little glitchy. It is far better than any 3D Indiana Jones game ever made yet. Also I went back to my old file and the last level is a much more elaborate version of the first scene(s) of Raiders of the Lost Ark. That includes swimming into the "dungeon" and fighting off swarms of spiders, avoiding all the same traps (the arrows are a *****), being chased by two or htree different boulders as well as crypt crawling, ledge jumping, etc.
It is a lot of fun.

[DACrowe]

BTW has anyone here played Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine on N64? I ask this because I started replaying it and it is REALLY good. But it is also really challenging. I started a new game and in my "PS3-superior" skills it has taken me 8+ hours to get through the first five levels this week.

But it is really fun, outside of a being a little glitchy. It is far better than any 3D Indiana Jones game ever made yet. Also I went back to my old file and the last level is a much more elaborate version of the first scene(s) of Raiders of the Lost Ark. That includes swimming into the "dungeon" and fighting off swarms of spiders, avoiding all the same traps (the arrows are a *****), being chased by two or htree different boulders as well as crypt crawling, ledge jumping, etc.
It is a lot of fun.

[Hectorminator]

Having a shot of Sallah and a 30-year-old Asian man would have been perfect. Truly a wasted opportunity.

I swear, I'm like the only person I know who's favorite character is Short Round. I was really bummed that he wasn't in KotCS or that I never heard any news that Spielberg and crew ever even wanted him in it.

No love for shorty, Indy's best sidekick ever.

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

I love Short Round, but Mutt takes the title for me now as best side kick.

[DACrowe]

Nah. Short Round kicked so much more ass. :D

In the original Indy IV screenplay Indy marries someone else (thankfully it was changed to Marion) and at the wedding Marion, Willie, Marcus Brody (when he was alive), SHORT ROUND and SALLAH were present. I'm not sure why an ex-girlfriend like Willie should be there, but def. Short Round and Sallah though.

[RockSP]

In the original Indy IV screenplay

Link?

[Drizzle]

I love Short Round, but Mutt takes the title for me now as best side kick.
Blasphemy.
http://indianajones.ugo.com/images/heroes/short-round.jpg
"You listen me more, you live longer."

[Rezzo]

Link?

It's from the Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars script. Here's a rather long summary.

The story begins in Borneo, 1949 on an old riverboat. Indy and a friend are being chased by river pirates piloting an old WWII PT boat. The surrounding water is infested with hungry crocs.

The pirates are after a treasure map and golden idol that Indy has "acquired." In the midst of a big fight, the pirates get the map (a fake), but Indy keeps the idol and gets away. After this confrontation, Indy and friend discuss Marcus' death and Indy considers retirement from field work.

Upon returning to their base of operations, Indy is met by Dr. Elaine McGregor, a brilliant linguist (49 languages and dialects) and serious babe (of course). She wants to hire Indy for an expedition upriver at a "hidden" temple. Solely because of her babe-ness, Indy agrees and decides not to retire just yet.

6 weeks later, at the dig site...

Indy and Elaine are goo goo in love. But, to keep us from getting ill, they are captured by pirates (the same ones as before). Indy is left in a trap and Elaine is taken. As you might expect, Indy escapes, catches the pirates, enjoys a spectacular fight scene and gets away with the girl. They return to the States, where...

They decide to get married. Henry Jones arrives for the ceremony, as do Willie, Marion and Sallah. As Elaine waits for the music to start, signifying her entrance into the chapel, a man approaches and speaks to her. Indy sees all this from the alter. Elaine leaves with the strange man and Indy runs out of the church after her. There is a car chase and Indy loses them. Distressed, Indy goes out with Willie and Marion and gets drunk. Hmmm...

Later, Indy checks Elaine's office and finds a secret file with a passport detailing for several aliases she has been using. Also finds that the man from the wedding is her ex-husband, who works for the OSS, military intelligence (insert joke here). Included with all this is a cryptic telegram about some discovery in White Sands, New Mexico. Indy heads to White Sands and finds a dirt road leading to a secret military based in the desert. He sneaks in and finds a monstrous black scar running across the ground as if from an airplane crash. He follows the scar to a huge military operation with hundreds of troops.

Indy is spotted, chased and captured. He's taken to the operations HQ where he meets Elaine, the mystery man (named Bolander) and a general. Elaine convinces Bolander and the general that Indy can help. The general seems genial and addresses Indy as "Colonel Jones." Together, they show Indy the remains of a downed spacecraft and several dead aliens. At the crash site, a 15" long, 5" in diameter stone cylinder was discovered intact. It is covered in a variety of glyphs from a number of ancient languages. Elaine, an ex-operative, was called in to decipher it. So far, she's found that each language makes reference to "power" of some sort. They assume that the cylinder is an alien fuel supply and the glyphs are instructions for use.

Indy and Elaine spend a few hours studying the cylinder and together discover that it's not a manual but a list of coordinates to different mountain tops throughout the world. In addition, the writings warn of dark consequences if the cylinder isn't brought to Mt. Keeno in New Mexico by an unspecified date.

Meanwhile, 2 cowboys sneak onto the base. They are the Russian spies, Veska and Cheslav (a KGB agent who has met up with Indy in the past).

The next day, Elaine and the device are missing. Indy tracks her and is caught by the Russians. Indy fights them. Cheslav takes Elaine and runs, escaping in a car. During a big chase through a high security area, Indy follows Veska into a concrete bunker - a rocket test center. Countdown begins with Veska and Indy trapped inside. They fight on top of the rocket sled. It begins to shoot forward at 200 mph. They hang on and continue fighting. Indy yanks a hose from the housing and bathes Veska in hot oil. Veska slips and flies down the rocket into the burners. Ouch. Indy then uses his vast knowledge of rocket science to screw up the engines and stop the firecracker of death. He falls to the ground, exhausted, and is captured by more Russians disguised as medics.

The Russians, having packed Indy into the trunk of their car, drive out into the desert to a secret rendevous. They get lost and stop in a town called Boomsburg. They go in to the gas station to ask for directions. As they do so, Indy jimmies the trunk and escapes. He checks the houses and finds that they are all fake, full of props and mannequins. Suddenly, the civil defense siren goes off and the Russians bolt for their car, burning rubber. Indy runs into a kitchen and leaps into a 2' deep crawlspace on the floor. He then pulls a lead-lined (?!) referigerator over top.

An A-Bomb goes off, blowing away the 2 Russians and destroying the town. Somehow, the concrete-lined hole and the fridge protect Indy. A decon team arrives, finds him alive and scrub him radiation free. Simple, isn't it!

In the meantime, Cheslav and Elaine are nowhere to be found. Upon Indy's return to the base, the general briefs Indy that they've figured out numbers on the cylinder represent a decending scale, a countdown. Why, the cylinder must be a bomb! Indy is put in the clink because "no one can be trusted." Again, he escapes and hops a truck convoy leaving the base.

A turn coat scientist (Dr. Bernard) is in charge of the convoy. Cheslav is with him. Out in the desert, they meet a flying fortress taking them to Russia with the cylinder. Indy takes out a guard and sneaks on board. Bernard examines the cylinder. Of several rings on the cylinder, two have changed color, as if marking time.

Indy begins fighting the Russians on the plane. He's about to get thrown out when a saucer appears and takes over the plane's controls with a handy ray-beam. Two U.S. Sabre jets intercept but are destroyed by the spaceship.

With the distraction, Indy goes on the attack. A bazooka goes off during the fight and blows up the cockpit, as well as wounding the saucer hovering outside. The saucer flees as the plane goes into a dive. Elaine is sucked out of the plane. Indy grabs a chute and the cylinder then dives out after her. He grabs her during freefall and pops the chute. The plane crashes and the saucer returns, scanning the wreckage for the cylinder.

Elaine and Indy make their way to a small deserted town as the countdown continues. A spaceship lands and spider-like aliens try to communicate with them. Elaine freaks and grabs Indy, who has hot-wired a pickup truck for their convenience. They hide out at a drive-in showing a cheesy scifi film. Indy calls the general for help. They are told to stay put, so they make out during the film. During the movie, an alien ship scans each car with an X-Ray and spots the cylinder between the hot, sweaty bodies of Indy and Elaine. (The alien cylinder you dirty-minded pervs!).

The alien ship picks up the truck with a tractor beam and hauls them off to the desert. After the saucer lands, a small bug-like alien exits the craft. Shortly, Indy and Elaine realize that the bug is speaking Sanskrit. They find out that the aliens don't want the device. But before they can explain further, the military shows up and blows them to pieces.

Indy and Elaine are again arrested and the cylinder is taken from them. A sergeant orders them taken to the clink. As they are dragged away, Indy sees that the sarge is actually Cheslav! Somehow, he too survived the exploding plane. He and Bolander are also in cahoots - and they have the cylinder. Oh dear, oh dear...

Another saucer is spotted in the distance and the entire convoy follows it. Indy (you guessed it) escapes his bonds, takes out the guard and frees Elaine. They turn the truck around and follow the convoy.

The convoy reaches the landing place of the saucer and opens fire. However, this craft is huge and it somehow creates a sandstorm which buries the entire army, including the semi-innocent, yet goof-ball general.

As Indy and Elaine approach, they see Bolander driving up into the mountains like a mad man. He's freaking out. Our heroes follow, chase Bolander and drive him off the road, taking the cylinder (It's like watching a soccer match, isn't it?). They reach the summit of Mt. Keeno and at dawn, 3 saucers appear. Cheslav sneaks in and holds Elaine at gunpoint, forcing Indy to give him the cylinder. Bolander also arrives and rushes Cheslav for possession of the device. The device glows with power and as Bolander's hands close about it, he kills Cheslav with a ray beam. The alien ships finally decide that enough is enough and take control of the cylinder causing it to incinerate Bolander into a hole in the ground full of ash. You might say he was an ash hole. Ahhahahahahahah...whew. So, anyways, the saucers glow like tiny stars and roar off in the direction of the morning sun. There is no trace of the cylinder.

Cut to...

The church from ACT 1. Indy and Elaine exit, married. Sallah, Marion, Henry and Willie throw rice as the newlyweds hop into their "just married" car. The driver turns around - it's Short Round - and asks "where to, Dr. Jones?" Indy and Elaine exchange "I Love You"s and kiss. THE END rolls up as the wedding car drives off into the sunset.

[spidey-dude]

they shoulda kept shorty as the driver saying "where to, Dr. Jones" that would have been ace

[Bim]

Blasphemy.
http://indianajones.ugo.com/images/heroes/short-round.jpg
"You listen me more, you live longer."
:hehe: i must admit though, a grown up Short Round would feel odd.

[Infinity9999x]

Let me confirm hopefully for the last time, Mr Connery was approached to be in Indy4 but didn't want to b/c he was enjoying retirement too much. I can't blame him for not wanting to return and certainly not those who did want him to be in the movie.

As for killing him off ... well, time has passed since The Last Crusade and Indy is now in his 50's or whatever, thus the death of Jones Sr.

I mean if they plan on doing more, perhaps that could do a few in between TLC and KOTCS... I doubt it but it was just a thought.

Atleast he was mentioned here and there throughout the movie. Even Marcus. :)

Killing him off really doesn't make sense, unless he was actually killed or died in an accident, because there's no way he should have died of old age so soon. He drank from the holy grail, which is supposed to dramatically increase your life span (heck, it made that knight live over 700 years) so Jones Sr. really should have still been alive.

[BenReilly]

Here are the scenes that featured Marion, Willie, Sallah and Short Round at Indy's wedding from the "Saucer Men From Mars" script:

INT. CHURCH - DAY
As the organ plays the guest begin to enter. We see WILLIE and MARION, led to their seats by SHORT ROUND and SALLAH, the ushers.

MARION
I can't believe he actually found someone who would say "yes."

WILLIE
I know.

SALLAH
You mean other than yourselves?

Marion and Willie gives him a look.

INT. CHAPEL - DAY
Indy wanders back into the church. He takes off his buttoner and tosses the flower. A WOMAN'S VOICE behind him brings him out of his thoughts...

MARION(V.O.)
I've always found that in times like this, it's always better to go and have a drink.

Indy sees Marion sitting in a pew.

INDY
No thanks, Marion.

Willie Scott joins her.

WILLIE
Oh, Indy... I'm so sorry. What you need right now is a little womanly comfort.

INT. BAR - NIGHT
Indy drowns his sorrows in a drink, surrounded on either side by Willie and Marion.

INDY
How could this have happened to me? I mean, I’m the catch of the century...

WILLIE
Oh, honey, I know. My hear breaks for you.

MARION
It's her lost, Indy...Though, it's true, you've never had good timing with women...

INDY
Good timing?

MARION
Remember the time in the desert you left me tied up...

WILLIE
Or the time you left me all alone in that palace just so you could go explore some tunnel...

INDY
Well, the least she could've done is tell me.

WILLIE
(to Marion)
He isn't the easiest person to talk to, either.

MARION
I know, and when he sleeps he does this little thing when he breathes...

WILLIE
(remembering)
...like this!...

They both emulate Indy sleeping and burst into fits of laughter.

INDY
You are wonderful company.

WILLIE
Oh, Indy, really...When it comes to women, you are so naive. Did it ever occur to you that you know very little about this person?

INDY
That's not true...

MARION
What are her favorite foods?

WILLIE
What is her favorite dress?

MARION
He's probably not seen her in anything but khakis.

Indy starts to protest, then realizes they have a point. He looks lower than ever.

WILLIE
Oh. Indy, don't look so sad, she probably just got cold feet.

Willie and Marion exchange a look, remembering...

WILLIE AND MARION
(together)
Cold feet!

They burst into laughter again.

CUT TO:
EXT. CHURCH - DAY
Sallah, Marion, Willie and others throw rice on the couple as they leave the church for the car.
ELAINE
pauses to through the bouquet and it is caught by Willie...

She and Indy climb into the car...

INT. CAR - DAY
And the driver turns around...it's Short-Round.

SHORT ROUND
Where to Dr. Jones?

INDY
The airport, Shorty and step on it.

SHORT ROUND
No problem...

[bunk]

The knight would've continually drank from the grail to keep himself alive. That was the price of immortality; having to stay in a cave.

[Drizzle]

Killing him off really doesn't make sense, unless he was actually killed or died in an accident, because there's no way he should have died of old age so soon. He drank from the holy grail, which is supposed to dramatically increase your life span (heck, it made that knight live over 700 years) so Jones Sr. really should have still been alive.
It doesn't matter that he drank from the grail. Indy and Henry passed the seal, which automatically gave up their immortality. So it does make sense.

[Infinity9999x]

It doesn't matter that he drank from the grail. Indy and Henry passed the seal, which automatically gave up their immortality. So it does make sense.

Well, the Knight only said that the grail couldn't pass the seal, not the person. The way I understood it was like this. You have to keep drinking from the grail to achieve immortality, and since the grail can't pass the seal you couldn't leave the cave. I don't think it meant that the grail's effects only work within the cave, because if that were so Henry Sr.'s bullet wound would have opened back up again once they left it.

Henry Sr. didn't continuously drink from the grail, so he shouldn't be immortal, but he should have at least had a longer life span from drinking from it once.

[RockSP]

Well, the Knight only said that the grail couldn't pass the seal, not the person. The way I understood it was like this. You have to keep drinking from the grail to achieve immortality, and since the grail can't pass the seal you couldn't leave the cave. I don't think it meant that the grail's effects only work within the cave, because if that were so Henry Sr.'s bullet wound would have opened back up again once they left it.

Henry Sr. didn't continuously drink from the grail, so he shouldn't be immortal, but he should have at least had a longer life span from drinking from it once.

They obviously meant that the immortality didn't last past the seal. Indy ages normally.

[Infinity9999x]

They obviously meant that the immortality didn't last past the seal. Indy ages normally.

I agree, but it doesn't last because you can't take the cup past the seal. As I said above, if the cup's powers only worked behind the seal, then Henry Sr. would have died right after he left the cave because his bullet wound would have opened back up.

Really, I don't see why one would think that the immortality would wear off outside the seal, because they said nothing of the sort in the movie. The knight only said that the grail cannot pass beyond the seal "thus is the price of immortality."

[ThePenguin]

Here are the scenes that featured Marion, Willie, Sallah and Short Round at Indy's wedding from the "Saucer Men From Mars" script:



My god that dialogue is terrible, particularly between Willie and Marion.

To those complaining about the quality of the film, it could have been A LOT worse.

[RockSP]

I agree, but it doesn't last because you can't take the cup past the seal. As I said above, if the cup's powers only worked behind the seal, then Henry Sr. would have died right after he left the cave because his bullet wound would have opened back up.

Really, I don't see why one would think that the immortality would wear off outside the seal, because they said nothing of the sort in the movie. The knight only said that the grail cannot pass beyond the seal "thus is the price of immortality."

You're probably thinking too hard about it. It's just one of many plotholes, I'm sure...

[Infinity9999x]

Also to support my theory, I just remembered something. If you listen to what Walter Donovan has to say in the begging of the movie, he mentions that in legend, one of the fabled knights that searched out the grail came out of the desert 170 years after they disappeared. If immortality stopped when you left the seal, that knight never would have made it out of the desert, he would have immediately died because he was far past his normal life span. He didn't die immediately though, he was able to make it out of the desert. He ended up dying when he couldn't drink from the grail again.

[Infinity9999x]

You're probably thinking too hard about it. It's just one of many plotholes, I'm sure...


Yeah, most likely, but also we don't know how Henry Sr. died, he could have fallen down the stairs or something, and that wouldn't go against what was established in TLC.

[danoyse]

Also to support my theory, I just remembered something. If you listen to what Walter Donovan has to say in the begging of the movie, he mentions that in legend, one of the fabled knights that searched out the grail came out of the desert 170 years after they disappeared. If immortality stopped when you left the seal, that knight never would have made it out of the desert, he would have immediately died because he was far past his normal life span. He didn't die immediately though, he was able to make it out of the desert. He ended up dying when he couldn't drink from the grail again.

Which meant he was probably drinking from the grail and living in that cave for a good part of that 170 years he was missing. He was able to sustain himself longer from that once he left (I recall he eventually died of "extreme old age), whereas Indy's father had only drank from it once--and most of what he took was used to heal a gunshot. It wouldn't have lasted the same way.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well I think he died of old age. Simple as that. Its not possible that anyone could kill him (a gun shot, stab or got blown up) but dying of old age is the only reasonable solution that makes sense...wither you like it or not.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I swear, I'm like the only person I know who's favorite character is Short Round. I was really bummed that he wasn't in KotCS or that I never heard any news that Spielberg and crew ever even wanted him in it.

No love for shorty, Indy's best sidekick ever.

I've lost count how many times I watched TOD, but Short Round is one of many sidekicks Indy can trust with his life.

I love Short Round, but Mutt takes the title for me now as best side kick.

I like Mutt too.

Nah. Short Round kicked so much more ass. :D

In the original Indy IV screenplay Indy marries someone else (thankfully it was changed to Marion) and at the wedding Marion, Willie, Marcus Brody (when he was alive), SHORT ROUND and SALLAH were present. I'm not sure why an ex-girlfriend like Willie should be there, but def. Short Round and Sallah though.

Yeah... Willie and Indy would feel awkward around each other... "No more adventures with you, Dr. Jones." lols

ah well. Im glad it was Marion. I thought the wedding scene was funny when she shoved her bouqet of flowers right at the priest and grabbed Indy to kiss him. heh. Funny. She must have been so desperate :o

[mcentepede]

Short Round definitely best sidekick of the 80's...also in Last Crusade, Indy drank from the grail to test it...remember the old knight said "You have chosen wisely". Indy should have been rejuvenated to some extent after that, explaining his ability to do the stunts in Crystal Skull at age 60.

[GhostPoet]

I've lost count how many times I watched TOD, but Short Round is one of many sidekicks Indy can trust with his life.



I like Mutt too.



Yeah... Willie and Indy would feel awkward around each other... "No more adventures with you, Dr. Jones." lols

ah well. Im glad it was Marion. I thought the wedding scene was funny when she shoved her bouqet of flowers right at the priest and grabbed Indy to kiss him. heh. Funny. She must have been so desperate :o

Agreed. Mutt for the WIN! :)

[Octoberist]

short found kicks ass. mutt would win if he had a personality. :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

well he's good with a blade..

[The Man of Steel]

Well I think he died of old age. Simple as that. Its not possible that anyone could kill him (a gun shot, stab or got blown up) but dying of old age is the only reasonable solution that makes sense...wither you like it or not.
go to your room Junior :mad:

[DarknessOfDeath]

go to your room Junior :mad:

oh come on Dad... Its not like anyone was out to get you, unlike...well ya know.

by the way, I am in my room, watching the Last Crusade. Im about to take screencaps for your avvie.

Now you get on MSN http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[The Man of Steel]

oh come on Dad... Its not like anyone was out to get you, unlike...well ya know.

by the way, I am in my room, watching the Last Crusade. Im about to take screencaps for your avvie.

Now you get on MSN http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

*slaps Indy on the face*

dont talk to me like that :mad:

and thanks for the avvy :D

im on MSN now :woot:

[DX]

Dr. Jones, are you Tevye/Mario?

[The Riddler]

my god, indy 4 was terrible.

oh well, i expected as much.

[SFII]

ya know, i really think George Lucas and Steven Speilberg need to come up with a whole brand new movie franchise together. enough with the Star Wars and Indiana Jones crap. they've been milkin' them for the past 25 years.

i'd love to see some new franchise created by them, which involves great action and adventure.

[chaseter]

Killing him off really doesn't make sense, unless he was actually killed or died in an accident, because there's no way he should have died of old age so soon. He drank from the holy grail, which is supposed to dramatically increase your life span (heck, it made that knight live over 700 years) so Jones Sr. really should have still been alive.
Are you that thick:huh: Watch Crusade again. Once you cross the seal after drinking from the grail...you loose immortality. Did you not remember the story of the two brothers of the three going back to France and one dying of old age on the way and the other dying in France??? Plus the Knight in the room even re-explained it:o

Dr. Jones was healed and had immortality, so did Indy, but they crossed the seal and therefore lost it.

[chaseter]

Also to support my theory, I just remembered something. If you listen to what Walter Donovan has to say in the begging of the movie, he mentions that in legend, one of the fabled knights that searched out the grail came out of the desert 170 years after they disappeared. If immortality stopped when you left the seal, that knight never would have made it out of the desert, he would have immediately died because he was far past his normal life span. He didn't die immediately though, he was able to make it out of the desert. He ended up dying when he couldn't drink from the grail again.
Think about it...harder than just wanting to cut holes in something. They emerged out of the desert after discovering the grail. Why would the Knight aimlessly wander in the desert for 170 years:huh: He obviously stayed in the cave and then left 170 years later OMG IT MAKES SENSE:wow: He ended up dying of old age and if you remember the story right, one brother doesn't make it out of the desert (he died of old age) and the other of the three barely made it back to France and then died of old age. The grail gives life, it doesn't take it. As soon as the old men passed the seal, their immortality was gone and their bodies began to age again.

As for Dr. Jones' bullet hole re-opening...why would it do that? The grail healed all ailments in the man and gave eternal life. Once he passed the seal, he lost immortality. Another great lore surrounding the grail that was mentioned is that it heals all ailments. There would be no purpose in searching for the grail if say you had cancer because as soon as you would leave by your reasoning, the cancer would be back.

[Majik1387]

Well I don't think they ever stopped aging actually, even within the seal, otherwise, wouldn't the living knight be as young as he was when he got to the grail?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Whats everyone's take on the quote in my sig?

"Archeology is the search for fact, not truth."

What do you think it means to you- personally?

[chaseter]

Well I don't think they ever stopped aging actually, even within the seal, otherwise, wouldn't the living knight be as young as he was when he got to the grail?
Yea he aged but very slowly. For all we know though...he could have been older when he went to search for it...but certainly not that old as he said he has weakened over the years. There is always a price for something is the story's theme and the knight's choice to stay and guard the grail for immortality came with the obvious negative of solitude and very slowly growing old. He probably would have ended up as an even frailer old man as time went on. But you could tell that he was happy when the cave in started to occur.

[chaseter]

Whats everyone's take on the quote in my sig?

"Archeology is the search for fact, not truth."

What do you think it means to you- personally?
Truth is decided by an individual yet fact is decided by a collective group/society. You can dig for what happened but what you collect cannot tell you why it happened.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yea he aged but very slowly. For all we know though...he could have been older when he went to search for it...but certainly not that old as he said he has weakened over the years. There is always a price for something is the story's theme and the knight's choice to stay and guard the grail for immortality came with the obvious negative of solitude and very slowly growing old. He probably would have ended up as an even frailer old man as time went on. But you could tell that he was happy when the cave in started to occur.

Just got done watching TLC...

the knight did seem relieved...

*looks away* to be able to join his brothers... after all this time.

[DACrowe]

Henry Sr. died of old age as Junior grows old naturally. The grail keeps you imortal as long as you drink from it and live in the cave. Once they left they forfeited immortaility. The older brother who died of extreme old age must have been drinking from that cup for a long time in the cave before leaving, where he aged normally from how old he was when he first drank the cup.

It's not a plot hole.

As for "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars," I never actually read it. The dialogue really is awful. And I thought the plot was the putrid part of that movie (read the summary). KOTCS is a huge upgrade from that ****e. Not saying that excuses KOTC's shortcomings. Just saying, it could have been a lot worse. I personally wish Sallah and Short Round were at the final wedding (no Willie though, as an ex at a wedding is ridiculous). When they kiss I could see Sallah start singing and when Mutt is getting ready to take a picture before the door blows open, a 30 year-old Asian man comes up and hugs Indy saying "CONGRATULATIONS DOCTOR JONES!!!!" Just my idea.

[DACrowe]

And yeah the knight is extremely relieved to no longer have to guard the grail. Too bad for him. He'll probably be there forever. :(

[DarknessOfDeath]

As I have said before about Dad dying of old age, DACrowe is right on the mark. Its the only logical explaination of how he died.

lol I could almost hear Short Round say that in the my head. :p

[chaseter]

Indy is what...late 30's or early 40's in the first 3 movies and that would make his dad about 60 something in TLC. This movie is 19 years later putting Dr. Jones Sr. past 80...a ripe old age to have died from a long, fruitful life.

[DarknessOfDeath]

... I think Indy was like in his thirties.

[chaseter]

... I think Indy was like in his thirties.
Yea he was...looked it up. But he was 40 in TLC.

[RockSP]

edit.

[DarknessOfDeath]

so... he was 40 in TLC... he must have been 38 in Raiders, 37 in Temple of Doom.

Not bad. Still, he looked pretty damn young I mean in regards to Ford. He looked to be in his early thirties to mid thirties.

[DarknessOfDeath]

NOT A COMPLIMENT: NUKE THE FRIDGE


http://www.harrisonfordweb.com/MiscPhotos/nuke_fridge.jpg (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge)
Illo by Grethe Boe
www.harrisonfordweb.com

A new expression is spreading like wildfire: Nuke the fridge.

The reference is of course Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull -- and the colloquialism is not a compliment.

According to Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge), the expression has the following meaning:


Nuke the fridge is a colloquialism used to refer to the moment in a film series that is so incredible that it lessens the excitement of subsequent scenes that rely on more understated action or suspense, and it becomes apparent that a certain installment is not as good as a previous installments, due to ridiculous or low quality storylines, events or characters.

The term comes from the film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, in which, near the start of the movie, Harrison Ford's character survives a nuclear detonation by climbing into a kitchen fridge, which is then blown hundreds of feet through the sky whilst the town disintegrates. He then emerges from the fridge with no apparent injury. Later in the movie, the audience is expected to fear for his safety in a normal fistfight.

Fans of the Indiana Jones series found the absurdity of this event in the film to be the best example of the lower quality of this installment in the series, and thus coined the phrase, "nuke the fridge".


The expression "jump the shark", has a similar meaning, but it refers to a series or movies produced for TV (Origin: one of the episodes Happy Days where the Fonz does just that -- while water skiing)


We have been thinking a bit -- and something else strikes us as more important than predictable fanboy/fangirl irony:

Had we been from Hiroshima or Nagasaki we might not have laughed.

Crystal Skull opens in Japan in three weeks.

[Rezzo]

Anyone gonna pick up LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yea he aged but very slowly. For all we know though...he could have been older when he went to search for it...but certainly not that old as he said he has weakened over the years. There is always a price for something is the story's theme and the knight's choice to stay and guard the grail for immortality came with the obvious negative of solitude and very slowly growing old. He probably would have ended up as an even frailer old man as time went on. But you could tell that he was happy when the cave in started to occur.

Didnt he say "my strength has left me" i always thought that was more due to inactivity than age, and didnt he say he was the oldest of the 3 brothers anyway?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, the Knight only said that the grail couldn't pass the seal, not the person. The way I understood it was like this. You have to keep drinking from the grail to achieve immortality, and since the grail can't pass the seal you couldn't leave the cave. I don't think it meant that the grail's effects only work within the cave, because if that were so Henry Sr.'s bullet wound would have opened back up again once they left it.

Henry Sr. didn't continuously drink from the grail, so he shouldn't be immortal, but he should have at least had a longer life span from drinking from it once.

No, the knight says to have immortality from drinking from the grail, you cannoy pass the seal, "Thats the price of immortality." The grail cured Henry Snr. while he was within the seal, it wouldnt suddenly bring back his injuries once cured because he went beyond the seal.

[cerealkiller182]

NOT A COMPLIMENT: NUKE THE FRIDGE


http://www.harrisonfordweb.com/MiscPhotos/nuke_fridge.jpg (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge)
Illo by Grethe Boe
www.harrisonfordweb.com (http://www.harrisonfordweb.com)

A new expression is spreading like wildfire: Nuke the fridge.

The reference is of course Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull -- and the colloquialism is not a compliment.

According to Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge), the expression has the following meaning:


Nuke the fridge is a colloquialism used to refer to the moment in a film series that is so incredible that it lessens the excitement of subsequent scenes that rely on more understated action or suspense, and it becomes apparent that a certain installment is not as good as a previous installments, due to ridiculous or low quality storylines, events or characters.

The term comes from the film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, in which, near the start of the movie, Harrison Ford's character survives a nuclear detonation by climbing into a kitchen fridge, which is then blown hundreds of feet through the sky whilst the town disintegrates. He then emerges from the fridge with no apparent injury. Later in the movie, the audience is expected to fear for his safety in a normal fistfight.

Fans of the Indiana Jones series found the absurdity of this event in the film to be the best example of the lower quality of this installment in the series, and thus coined the phrase, "nuke the fridge".


The expression "jump the shark", has a similar meaning, but it refers to a series or movies produced for TV (Origin: one of the episodes Happy Days where the Fonz does just that -- while water skiing)


We have been thinking a bit -- and something else strikes us as more important than predictable fanboy/fangirl irony:

Had we been from Hiroshima or Nagasaki we might not have laughed.

Crystal Skull opens in Japan in three weeks.


:whatever:

Is there also a whiny fanboy expression about beloved franchises that finally get a live-action movie but doesnt meet the ridiculous high standards called "Pissed on by the robot" based on a completely forgettable but poorly done moment in a generally entertaining film that fanboys refuse to forget.

:whatever:

[danoyse]

:whatever:

Is there also a whiny fanboy expression about beloved franchises that finally get a live-action movie but doesnt meet the ridiculous high standards called "Pissed on by the robot" based on a completely forgettable but poorly done moment in a generally entertaining film that fanboys refuse to forget.

:whatever:

:applaud

I haven't heard of an expression for that yet, but "Get a life!" never gets old.

[turtlefocker]

honestly how could anyone vote "1" for this movie...

[RockSP]

honestly how could anyone vote "1" for this movie...

I feel the same way about anyone giving it a "10".

[turtlefocker]

I gave it an 8... 10 is for masterpieces... 1 is for garbage like Superman IV and Jaws IV...

[RickO'Connell]

I feel the same way about anyone giving it a "10".

I feel the same way about anyone whining about someone else's opinion just because they do not agree with you

[RockSP]

I feel the same way about anyone whining about someone else's opinion just because they do not agree with you

Lucky for you and me no one was whining, huh?

[The Man of Steel]

Anyone gonna pick up LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures?
i am, but just because it's Indiana Jones

[DACrowe]

Is their a phrase for whiney fanboys in general about any of their "beloved" characters or franchises?

Yeah, the phrase is "fanboys." Kind of circular logic, but it makes sense.

[Apollo]

people whom gave it a 1 i think were confused, perhaps they were thinking that 1 stood for number 1 movie they've seen....yea...yea! thats got to be it!!! i'll just twist reality to uphold my own self pride, mwhahahah!!!

[DarknessOfDeath]

*rubs his head* gah...all this whining goes a long way back and it reminds me of when the SW prequels came out.

*lays down* yeah...

[The Man of Steel]

people didnt like SW I II and II?

[RockSP]

people didnt like SW I II and II?

Well they made tons of money so obviously many people did.

This particular person didn't.

[Bubonic]

Just got back from seeing it, it was far from flawless but it still was quite fun.

I don't see how people think this isn't the same old Indie, maybe the cheesy lines and typical action hero bravado doesn't translate as well these days due to being overdone, but look at the old films, the stuff was there all the same.

I did think the dialogue and delivery was pretty bad at the beginning, but as it progressed I found myself enjoying it.

It had great easter eggs throughout, and all the typical Indie stuff I expect (booby traps, epic scenery, awesome artifacts and run of the mill bad guys)

A major thing I absolutely hated, and I'm sure it has been beaten to death here as well, was the cgi prairie dogs and rhesus monkeys... WHY?

I don't really know if people are complaining about it here, but I had it spoilt for me elsewhere when people where whining about the alien angle, I really don't see why people find that to be bogus as far as an Indie movie goes... I thought it was pretty well handled and quite cool, my only gripe about it is that it continues the trend of undermining the great achievements of Meso-American people.

[DarknessOfDeath]

people didnt like SW I II and II?

Well Dad, sure. At least half of em didn't... *sighs* I was among those who did like them but it got old after all the whinging and all that. To me, they're just great films. Thats all.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Just got back from seeing it, it was far from flawless but it still was quite fun.

I don't see how people think this isn't the same old Indie, maybe the cheesy lines and typical action hero bravado doesn't translate as well these days due to being overdone, but look at the old films, the stuff was there all the same.

I did think the dialogue and delivery was pretty bad at the beginning, but as it progressed I found myself enjoying it.

It had great easter eggs throughout, and all the typical Indie stuff I expect (booby traps, epic scenery, awesome artifacts and run of the mill bad guys)

A major thing I absolutely hated, and I'm sure it has been beaten to death here as well, was the cgi prairie dogs and rhesus monkeys... WHY?

I don't really know if people are complaining about it here, but I had it spoilt for me elsewhere when people where whining about the alien angle, I really don't see why people find that to be bogus as far as an Indie movie goes... I thought it was pretty well handled and quite cool, my only gripe about it is that it continues the trend of undermining the great achievements of Meso-American people.

They weren't allowed to use real monkeys, thus them being CGI... Although I can't honestly tell if the monkey Mutt comes face to face is either real or CGI... but thats the only Awsome shot that remains my fave in that part plus the music bit too. hehe.

[The Man of Steel]

Well Dad, sure. At least half of em didn't... *sighs* I was among those who did like them but it got old after all the whinging and all that. To me, they're just great films. Thats all.
you've finaly gotten smart Junior, you can come out of you room now :D

[DarknessOfDeath]

you've finaly gotten smart Junior, you can come out of you room now :D

What do you mean?

[Arkady Rossovich]

I'm getting a feeling that Dr. Jones,Dr. Indiana Jones and The Kid are all the same user using different accounts.

[Bubonic]

They weren't allowed to use real monkeys, thus them being CGI... Although I can't honestly tell if the monkey Mutt comes face to face is either real or CGI... but thats the only Awsome shot that remains my fave in that part plus the music bit too. hehe.

I wasn't so much complaining about the quality of the CGI so much as I was complaining about the necessity of those scenes.

You've got people being burnt alive and eaten by army ants alongside some sort of Caddyshack tribute with the numerous shots of the groundhogs/prairie dogs being cute... They were even more unnecessary then the monkeys who actually had their place in the movie and I could endure the stupidity of monkeys picking sides...

Apart from the bugs in the movie I thought the animals were pretty pointlessly used so I chuckled at the snake rope scene simply for Harrissons reaction, felt bad for the snake who'd of probably lost its head anyways.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'm getting a feeling that Dr. Jones,Dr. Indiana Jones and The Kid are all the same user using different accounts.


Thats where your wrong Pal.

I underwent two name changes. TWO *shows two fingers*

If you remember, I was DarknessofDeath and Agent Vaughn.

Ask anyone.

And why would I need two accounts anyway? I mean, I've got close to 21 000 posts and I joined the hype in Feb 06...what does that tell you?

I've only had this account for two years straight

[The Man of Steel]

What do you mean?

remember, I Sent you to you room a while ago

I'm getting a feeling that Dr. Jones,Dr. Indiana Jones and The Kid are all the same user using different accounts.
lamo, and just why would i do that?

[The Man of Steel]

Thats where your wrong Pal.

I underwent two name changes. TWO *shows two fingers*

If you remember, I was DarknessofDeath and Agent Vaughn.

Ask anyone.

And why would I need two accounts anyway? I mean, I've got close to 21 000 posts...what does that tell you?
same here, why would I Need two Indy names? almost the same, and anyway I Was first Tevye then Mario and now Dr. Jones

[DarknessOfDeath]

remember, I Sent you to you room a while ago

Right...

same here, why would I Need two Indy names? almost the same, and anyway I Was first Tevye then Mario and now Dr. Jones

exactly.

[RockSP]

I underwent two name changes. TWO *shows two fingers*

They let you change your name twice?:huh:

I remember a little while back they made a big deal out of one name change...

[DarknessOfDeath]

They let you change your name twice?:huh:

I remember a little while back they made a big deal out of one name change...

Well I made a promise that this'll be the last name change. end of story.

I'm leaving it forever the way it is now but the thing is, everyone that knew me as DOD and AV knew who I was under this name (cause of Avvie and sig remained unchanged).

[Bubonic]

Oh and why wasn't Henry sr. in the movie?
I remember a report from long ago that it would be grandpa, father and son... Or was that just a long ago dismissed rumour?

[The Man of Steel]

I'm leaving it forever the way it is now

as am I

[DarknessOfDeath]

Oh and why wasn't Henry sr. in the movie?
I remember a report from long ago that it would be grandpa, father and son... Or was that just a long ago dismissed rumour?


Just a rumor.

Connery was asked to return but he declined (I don't blame him) because he was enjoying his retirement too much.

At least he and elliot got mentioned.

[turtlefocker]

I didn't like any of the Star Wars prequels, hated them actually.

I loved the new Indy movie though.

[DarknessOfDeath]

as am I

might wanna update your post... since I added some more to it.

[The Man of Steel]

I didn't like any of the Star Wars prequels, hated them actually.

I loved the new Indy movie though.
*slaps tutlefocker's face*

that's for blasphemy :mad:


:indy:

[DarknessOfDeath]

I didn't like any of the Star Wars prequels, hated them actually.


Well all I can say about that is I can't change your opinion and not that I agree with you in some ways, but I do see why you hated them.

I admit the SW prequels could have been better if the stories and ideas were more developed.

I probably would have preferred more Indiana Jones films over SW to be precise otherwise we would already have gotten one in 99 but realizing that I do like IJ even more over SW, I really wish but now that KOTCS came out, no biggie.

:grin:

[cerealkiller182]

I wasn't so much complaining about the quality of the CGI so much as I was complaining about the necessity of those scenes.

You've got people being burnt alive and eaten by army ants alongside some sort of Caddyshack tribute with the numerous shots of the groundhogs/prairie dogs being cute... They were even more unnecessary then the monkeys who actually had their place in the movie and I could endure the stupidity of monkeys picking sides...

Apart from the bugs in the movie I thought the animals were pretty pointlessly used so I chuckled at the snake rope scene simply for Harrissons reaction, felt bad for the snake who'd of probably lost its head anyways.

Numerous? You mean 2 scenes both 2 seconds each?

The prairie dogs were included for the Paramount mountian in Nevada. I reallydont know why people are so hung up on this.

I dont know why you think animals are pointless. They are out in the wilderness, they are bound to show up.

[RockSP]

I probably would have preferred more Indiana Jones films over SW to be precise otherwise we would already have gotten one in 99

Yeah I think it would have been better if it had happened when Ford was a little younger.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yeah I think it would have been better if it had happened when Ford was a little younger.


yeah true. but 65 is still young...according to my friend who's parents are way older than Ford is.

Ford still looks well... Ford. hehe.

Even in the latest pictures in the official Indiana Jones magazine... *sighs* Theres a cute one of Karen Allen with that monkey.

"She's got your looks.."

"and your brains"

heh.

:o

[The Man of Steel]

lol :D
I Wonder who Mutt's girlfriend will be if they make a fith one

[DarknessOfDeath]

Hmm

perhaps...

[turtlefocker]

I Wonder who Short Round's girlfriend will be if they make a fifth one

http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/th_wink.gif

[The Man of Steel]

:lmao:

[DarknessOfDeath]

I wonder who - oh right... Marion.

[The Man of Steel]

Marion? :confused:
as Mutt's girlfrined?

[Nakon]

Recently saw it, i'll easily give it a 9 :D

[turtlefocker]

He did seem upset with the wedding kiss...

[DarknessOfDeath]

Marion? :confused:
as Mutt's girlfrined?

Marion..

Recently saw it, i'll easily give it a 9 :D

:up:

would someone please join my Realm... :(

[DarknessOfDeath]

He did seem upset with the wedding kiss...


???

[Nakon]

Marion..



:up:

would someone please join my Realm... :(In. Easily. It was one hell of a movie. :whatever:

[DarknessOfDeath]

For those who have joined The Realm of Sci-fi, don't be afraid to post...and Im welcome to new ideas in ways of keeping it all together and...yeah..

[The Man of Steel]

Marion
she cant be

[DarknessOfDeath]

she cant be

can't be what?

mine?

[Papa Burgundy]

how do i use spoiler tags? please?

[The Man of Steel]

can't be what?

mine?

oh, I Thought you said her as Mutt's girlfriend :O

how do i use spoiler tags? please?
press this icon at the top

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/Drakon/SHH/spoiler.gif

[Papa Burgundy]

wow how simple. thanks.

[Kahran Ramsus]

Fans of the Indiana Jones series found the absurdity of this event in the film to be the best example of the lower quality of this installment in the series, and thus coined the phrase, "nuke the fridge".

Isn't this the same franchise that has Indy survive an airplane crash by jumping out of it in a raft? The series has always been goofy.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Isn't this the same franchise that has Indy survive an airplane crash by jumping out of it in a raft? The series has always been goofy.

Exactly... :hehe:

[BatJeff7786]

Isn't this the same franchise that has Indy survive an airplane crash by jumping out of it in a raft? The series has always been goofy.
And that's why Temple of Doom is considered one of the lesser Indy movies. Unrealistic elements are fine, but if they go beyond the realm of stupidity (such as the fridge scene), then there is a problem.

[The Man of Steel]

wow how simple. thanks.
:yay:no problem:yay:

[Bubonic]

Numerous? You mean 2 scenes both 2 seconds each?

The prairie dogs were included for the Paramount mountian in Nevada. I reallydont know why people are so hung up on this.

I dont know why you think animals are pointless. They are out in the wilderness, they are bound to show up.

Animals aren't pointless, but the way they were used, especially the prairie dogs, was embarrassingly bad. :o

Look, don't think I'm going on a tirade against a movie you like, I gave it an 8, and I stand by that even though it might be a bit generous.
It was beyond campy, but unlike something like the snake scene it was completely useless on all levels, and it didn't look that good.

I have no trouble with the usage of animals though but you don't need to focus on an animal if it doesn't pertain to the storyline!

Most of us will be seeing the TIH in a couple of weeks, some of that will be spent running around in the jungle, we all know there is an amplitude of animals in the jungle, but I won't need a closeup of a ****ing toucan in order to drive that point home!

What's worse is that they were CGI prairie dogs... With emphasis put on them, and it was stupid ok?!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I must admit that bit had me thinking WTF?

[The_Vision]

The animals were in there for the kids, afterall it is a family film.

[Iceman]

Are kids really, really stupid these days? :(

[The_Vision]

lol Well my little cousin isnt and she thought the monkeys were fun. They tried to get real monkeys aswell but for some reason they didnt. The animals though do seem stupid for older people.

[Riven]

The animals were in there for the kids, afterall it is a family film.
What children enjoy in an Indiana Jones movie is the wild ride of adventuring, the awesome sets, the cool main character and the wacky plot.

NOT stupid, fake little critters that get unnecessary (however limited) screentime in a forced, lame attempt at comic relief.

[Iceman]

I don't think the filmmaker should be putting in scenes just to satisfy kids or grannies or paedophiles. Make the best film you can and stay within the boundaries of your certificate. Then if the film is good most of those groups will like it.

There's nothing wrong with putting animals into a film (especially one set in a jungle) but do it properly, not just for the sake of doing it.

[Bubonic]

^lol'd and agreed.

Plus the movie had enough enough one-liners to hold over a kids sense of humour, and had a lot of wonderful stuff to gawk at.

I still find it funny that in a movie featuring people burning alive and being eaten alive the need was there for forced campiness in the form of CGI animals!

[RockSP]

What children enjoy in an Indiana Jones movie is the wild ride of adventuring, the awesome sets, the cool main character and the wacky plot.

NOT stupid, fake little critters that get unnecessary (however limited) screentime in a forced, lame attempt at comic relief.

Or they could y'know...enjoy both. :o

[Bubonic]

Or they could y'know...enjoy both. :o

They could, but what are the chances that kids would have absolutely hated the film without those scenes tacked on?

I'm thinking not very likely, this wasn't going to make or break reaching that demographic. :o

[Wolverini]

I RETED INDNUA JONZ 1 BECUZ OF CIG ANIMZL!

Thats what most people do anyway ...

[DACrowe]

Look the animals are such a small factor. I didn't mind them. The monkeys were far more intrusive and dumb.

[BloodyWolverine]

There are animals in the world and ina real setting be it monkeys or birds you gotta include them. There are monkeys in a jungle and face it Monkeys are a Indiana Jones theme. If anyone recalls the Monkey in raiders and then the Monkey brainsin temple of doom. Then there was teh Monkey car on the train i do believe.
If there is a sequel there may be a gorilla or chimp depending in location or area where they will go.

[terry78]

People like monkeys. Monkeys = comedy and fun-ness.

[Drizzle]

People like monkeys. Monkeys = comedy and fun-ness.
Yeah, but just as long as they're real. When they're CG, they look dumb as hell. Case in point, "Jumanji".

[RockSP]

Case in point, "Jumanji".

Heh heh.

CGI has come quite a way since then, thankfully.

[BloodyWolverine]

i liked Jumanji actually. No more then a 6.5/10 but it was ok

[RockSP]

i liked Jumanji actually. No more then a 6.5/10 but it was ok

Yeah it wasn't a bad movie. It did have some bad CGI in it, though.

[Captain Planet!]

It was 1995, people. They didn't have a Jurassic Park kind of budget. :dry:

[Drizzle]

Yeah it wasn't a bad movie. It did have some bad CGI in it, though.
Agreed. The CGI monkeys looked god-awful, though.

[cerealkiller182]

Animals aren't pointless, but the way they were used, especially the prairie dogs, was embarrassingly bad. :o

Look, don't think I'm going on a tirade against a movie you like, I gave it an 8, and I stand by that even though it might be a bit generous.
It was beyond campy, but unlike something like the snake scene it was completely useless on all levels, and it didn't look that good.

I have no trouble with the usage of animals though but you don't need to focus on an animal if it doesn't pertain to the storyline!

Most of us will be seeing the TIH in a couple of weeks, some of that will be spent running around in the jungle, we all know there is an amplitude of animals in the jungle, but I won't need a closeup of a ****ing toucan in order to drive that point home!

What's worse is that they were CGI prairie dogs... With emphasis put on them, and it was stupid ok?!

This is such an overreaction.

[danoyse]

And that's why Temple of Doom is considered one of the lesser Indy movies. Unrealistic elements are fine, but if they go beyond the realm of stupidity (such as the fridge scene), then there is a problem.

Temple of Doom was considered the lesser movie because it was dark and it scared the kids who loved the first one back when it first came out, and ultimately led to the PG-13 rating. I was 10 when that movie was released and that was all anyone complained about.

I never heard anyone b**** about a life raft back then...although I'm sure if we'd had the internet we would hear plenty of whining over the same over-the-top action sequences that have existed in all 4 movies.

And the prairie dogs? Really? Their screentime was shorter than the commercial I just saw for the movie. Is it really necessary to obsess over this? :whatever:

[RockSP]

Temple of Doom was considered the lesser movie because it was dark and it scared the kids who loved the first one back when it first came out, and ultimately led to the PG-13 rating. I was 10 when that movie was released and that was all anyone complained about.

I never heard anyone b**** about a life raft back then...although I'm sure if we'd had the internet we would hear plenty of whining over the same over-the-top action sequences that have existed in all 4 movies.

I never understood the beef with Temple of Doom. Never heard any of the complaints about it until I was an adult and cruising the net.

I used to watch it all the time on hbo. Anybody who was scared by it needs a foot up the ass.:hehe: I will say that I always thought the "raft out of a plane" bit was stupid, though...even as a kid.

[danoyse]

I never understood the beef with Temple of Doom. Never heard any of the complaints about it until I was an adult and cruising the net.

I used to watch it all the time on hbo. Anybody who was scared by it needs a foot up the ass.:hehe: I will say that I always thought the "raft out of a plane" bit was stupid, though...even as a kid.

It was a big deal because PG-13 didn't exist at the time, and the violence was very graphic for a PG film. I've read that if Steven Spielberg's name wasn't attached to it, it would have been R-rated.

Even so, the ads for the movie (and the VHS release) had a warning attached the film might be to intense for children, and the critics jumped all over it. It was also much darker than the first movie, so people didn't like it as much.

Even I wasn't allowed to see it at the time. I think only one kid in my class got to go. I had to wait for the VHS release, although I finally got to see it in a theater two years ago.

And I loved Temple of Doom. It still feels like contraband whenever I get to see it. :woot:

[The Man of Steel]

what does everyone have against the CGI animals?

[Bim]

Temple of Doom was considered the lesser movie because it was dark and it scared the kids who loved the first one back when it first came out, and ultimately led to the PG-13 rating. I was 10 when that movie was released and that was all anyone complained about.

I never heard anyone b**** about a life raft back then...although I'm sure if we'd had the internet we would hear plenty of whining over the same over-the-top action sequences that have existed in all 4 movies.

And the prairie dogs? Really? Their screentime was shorter than the commercial I just saw for the movie. Is it really necessary to obsess over this? :whatever:
Well there's people who like to pick on every detail, what can ya do :cwink: :hehe:

[Rezzo]

what does everyone have against the CGI animals?

Well the prairie dogs weren't really needed and really didn't add anything to the story, but I'm ok with them I guess.

[GhostPoet]

Well the prairie dogs weren't really needed and really didn't add anything to the story, but I'm ok with them I guess.

I didn't mind them either. Infact, everytime they appeared the audience I was with laughed.

[Dark Spidey]

Love the movie. Just one question: What exactly did the Russians break into Hanger 51 for? :huh:

[Untilteld]

Love the movie. Just one question: What exactly did the Russians break into Hanger 51 for? :huh:

An alien.

[Dark Spidey]

An alien.

But the Alien they retrieved wasn't connected to the Crystal Skull Aliens was it?

[cerealkiller182]

it was magnetic like the others. it was the alien corpse they showed indy at the base camp halfway through when he met marion. Its the same as the skulls but it wasnt one of the 13. It was one of the one in the supposed Roswell crash that shares its lineage with the 13

[Dark Spidey]

it was magnetic like the others. it was the alien corpse they showed indy at the base camp halfway through when he met marion. Its the same as the skulls but it wasnt one of the 13.

Yeah that's what I thought. But was confused as to why, if they were the same species, the Russians couldn't just use the Hanger 51 Alien's skull for telepathy-aided world domination.

[Untilteld]

But the Alien they retrieved wasn't connected to the Crystal Skull Aliens was it?

I don't believe so.

[cerealkiller182]

Yeah that's what I thought. But was confused as to why, if they were the same species, the Russians couldn't just use the Hanger 51 Alien's skull for telepathy-aided world domination.


They want all of them not just one of them i think

[Cagefighterkip]

in the novelazation on the movie spalko did an autopsy on the alien from hangar 51 and found out about its crystal body and was given orders to find the crystal skull... "she would not fail" the book says.

[turtlefocker]

http://nukedthefridge.com/

[DarknessOfDeath]

Just got back from seeing it...again...

I don't know why Im smiling and laughing...


heh...

[Rezzo]

Just got back from seeing it...again...

Third time right?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Third time right?


yeah, you got that right.

[Rezzo]

yeah, you got that right.

Nice. :up:

[DarknessOfDeath]

Nice. :up:

Word. :up:



ah Marion... *slumps in his seat* same old ... same old...

[turtlefocker]

Domestic: $223,025,853
+ Foreign: $267,115,229

= Worldwide: $490,141,082 as of Jun. 3, 2008

_

Last Crusade:

Domestic: $197,171,806
+ Foreign: $277,000,000

= Worldwide: $474,171,806 (unadjusted)

[cerealkiller182]

http://nukedthefridge.com/

Although I think its totally unfair to be banned from AICN for using the term no matter how stupid a term it is, its prolly a blessing in disguise since Knowles annoys me to no end

[DarknessOfDeath]

hey focker, might wanna add $4.20 to that load.

[Bastila]

hey focker, might wanna add $4.20 to that load.

A cinema ticket cost that much! That is soooo cheap over here its like £7.25 for a film where I live....I miss being a student was only £5.00...

[DarknessOfDeath]

A cinema ticket cost that much! That is soooo cheap over here its like £7.25 for a film where I live....I miss being a student was only £5.00...

Thats why I saw it at a cheap movie theater downtown whereas in other areas, a ticket costs from 8-12 bucks.

[Bastila]

Thats why I saw it at a cheap movie theater downtown whereas in other areas, a ticket costs from 8-12 bucks.

Good idea for the normal price you can see it like 2 + at that downtown one, nice one.

I got my dad and Indiana hat for his bday this week, and some other things, he does love the films, the hat is cool though had it on eariler hehe.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Good idea for the normal price you can see it like 2 + at that downtown one, nice one.

I got my dad and Indiana hat for his bday this week, and some other things, he does love the films, the hat is cool though had it on eariler hehe.

I sent my money order for the indy hat today.

I just wanna see how long it takes til I get it. Probably two weeks time.

[Bastila]

I sent my money order for the indy hat today.

I just wanna see how long it takes til I get it. Probably two weeks time.


Well its very cool and bigger then I thought, nice little Indiana Jones logo on the side, hope you get it soon :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well its very cool and bigger then I thought, nice little Indiana Jones logo on the side, hope you get it soon :)

where;d you get the hat from?

[Bastila]

where;d you get the hat from?

from here - http://www.forbiddenplanet.com/products/33444/Indiana_Jones_Basic_Adults_Hat/Action/Costumesuniforms/Indiana_Jones/Product.html

[DarknessOfDeath]

from here - http://www.forbiddenplanet.com/products/33444/Indiana_Jones_Basic_Adults_Hat/Action/Costumesuniforms/Indiana_Jones/Product.html


oh. Im getting mine from the official Indiana Jones site.

[Bastila]

oh. Im getting mine from the official Indiana Jones site.

that one is the official adults one also its cool.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I had to measure my head...

the size for me is Medium

[Matt Murdock]

I think I'll get my hat at Disney's MGM studios in florida.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I wish I lived in the states

[Bastila]

I think I'll get my hat at Disney's MGM studios in florida.

We don't have one in the UK :csad: .............have to get it off online...and Disney Paris only does main disney stuff.....I thought thy might have had one when I went there for a weekend last month but didn't.

[The Man of Steel]

oh. Im getting mine from the official Indiana Jones site.
me too :up:

I think I'll get my hat at Disney's MGM studios in florida.
I shoulda gotten mine when i was there :(

[Matt Murdock]

I hope the Indy stunt show gets a revamp or something to accomodate for the new movie.

[DACrowe]

I just went to the "nuke the fridge" site and looked at their reviews. I gathered they'd hate Indy so I read his review for The Strangers. Okay, this guy simply has no idea whatsoever about what horror is or should be.

I mean I haven't seen it and the Strangers may indeed be trash. But he thinks horror should be simple escapism that you don't feel connected to and can feel safe and smug walking away with "good triumphing over evil." Well that could explain why he disliked Funny Games which was the deconstruction of the American horror formula into something very uncomfortable, uncomforting and psychologically brutal to its audience to make a point.

But that isn't why I felt the need to type this. He then says "what happened to the old days with...Halloween?" He then has an elaborate paragraph describing why he thinks Halloween is a success. He is partially right, it developed Laurie Strode and her friends for a full hour before the mayhem started, making the actual killings sad, pointless and incredibly suspensful (at least for the first few times you watch it).

But his argument is The Strangers isn't htis because it is "too realistic" that a stranger can come into your house and kill you at anytime and that we should be afraid because it could happen to us. Did he not get the whole ****ing point of the original John Carptenter classic? The reason the movie was so chilling is because Michael Myers HAD NO REASON to kill them. He was this little boy who suffered from the banality of evil who one day butchered his sister before he hit puberty. He escapes 20 years later to randomly (as the original film presented the concept) stalk three teenage girls in high school. He mehtodically follows them, tortures them and kills them. It is quite disturbing and at the end despite Loomis saving Laurie and the kids, Michael or "the Shape" who is more the personification of evil than an actual person -- gets away. The final shots are of a simple empty American house with the lights off. It could be your house and "Michael" could be lurking there at any time. And if you don't keep an eye out like Laurie's friends failed to do, you may be next.

That is why Halloween is so good. This was a long off-topic rant, but I'll bring it back full circle. The type of people who can't let go of their hate for Indiana Jones IV and make websites about it and bashing AICN are the type of people who don't understand the movies they LIKE.

[cerealkiller182]

That is reasonable assumption DACrowe. American horror fans are definitely looking for too much head lopping and not enough tension. Although the site is also against torture porn so I dont know what that syas?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Here's the news some of us been waiting to hear...hopefully we'll get more details...


INDIANA JONES PROMO IN JAPAN
...open on Indy V but not yet decided on details


http://www.harrisonfordweb.com/MiscPhotos/kotcs_tokyo.jpg (http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/showgallery.php/cat/1025)
Click above to go to
HFW Gallery 1Harrison Ford, Karen Allen, George Lucas, Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall have gone to Japan to promote Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. We have pictures from today's press conference in Tokyo (click thumbnail left), where Harrison and George Lucas just couldn't resist a little impromptu prank.

Crystal Skull opens in Tokyo on
June 14 and in the rest of Japan on June 21.

(Note: We assume that the June 6 date as seen in the the background [thumb, left] refers to the release of the Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures game for PC and major consoles. Harrison said at the press conference that the Indiana Jones adventure series was 'shamelessly' made for the audience: "There is no series of films that I have done that have the same spirit and are so, if you will, shamelessly made for the audience -- not to pander to them, but to give them an exciting ride."

George Lucas said the entire cast was excited when Ford put the Indy costume back on for the latest film. "It seems to happen on every movie, every Indiana Jones movie we do. There is this magic moment when Harrison appears on the set in his outfit and puts his hat on. That just transports everyone into a magic place. I don't know why. Even in 'Star Wars' we don't have an iconic figure who does the same."

Both Ford and scriptwriter George Lucas repeated that they were open to another episode of the series, although they have not yet decided on details. (http://au.news.yahoo.com/080604/19/174zh.html)



Sources:
WireImage (http://www.wireimage.com/)
IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/releaseinfo)
indianajones.lego.com (http://indianajones.lego.com/en-us/default.aspx)
LucasArts (http://www.lucasarts.com/games/legoindianajones/)
Yahoo News (http://au.news.yahoo.com/080604/19/174zh.html)

[Riven]

George Lucas said the entire cast was excited when Ford put the Indy costume back on for the latest film. "It seems to happen on every movie, every Indiana Jones movie we do. There is this magic moment when Harrison appears on the set in his outfit and puts his hat on. That just transports everyone into a magic place. I don't know why. Even in 'Star Wars' we don't have an iconic figure who does the same."


http://www.forumsextreme.com/imgs1/Funny_Pictures_Star-Wars_Lack_of_Faith.jpg

:grin:

[DarknessOfDeath]

http://www.forumsextreme.com/imgs1/Funny_Pictures_Star-Wars_Lack_of_Faith.jpg

:grin:

lols

What was that for?

[Riven]

lols

What was that for?
The George Lucas quote about how in making the Star Wars films there apparently wasn't an "iconic character" that impressed everyone when he stepped on set in costume for the first time... :o

Just a lil' ironic... I thought.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well Ford is Indiana Jones, he's probably the most iconic character next to Han Solo and Darth Vader.

I love both characters but I feel a lot for Indy and what he goes through. Theres so much you learn about him, which is quite interesting.

[cerealkiller182]

I can see what Lucas might mean by Darth. If it was actually James Earl Jones in the suit it might be different

[DarknessOfDeath]

I hate snakes...

[Matt Murdock]

Well Ford is Indiana Jones, he's probably the most iconic character next to Han Solo and Darth Vader.

I love both characters but I feel a lot for Indy and what he goes through. Theres so much you learn about him, which is quite interesting.
IMHO, Jones is more recognizable than Solo. Universally, at least. There are very few characters who are recognized just by a prop they use or their shadow. Indiana Jones is one of the most recognizable characters in history.

[OctaviusINC]

I hate snakes...

Are you referring to our slithery cold blood friends or George Lucas?

And, whatever, I'm game for Indy 5. I had more fun waiting for Indy 4 then actually experiencing it. I'm not knocking the movie, but just stating the truth.

[DarknessOfDeath]

IMHO, Jones is more recognizable than Solo. Universally, at least. There are very few characters who are recognized just by a prop they use or their shadow. Indiana Jones is one of the most recognizable characters in history.


Well yeah... I mean for me, I identify more with Indy than Solo if you want to put it that way...

I guess I should just that in my previous post^^

[Nakon]

I'm surprised that some people are giving it a 1...

[Nakon]

oh. Im getting mine from the official Indiana Jones site.Haha that looks really awesome. Speaking of an Indiana Jones hat, i need to get one myself proboully! :whatever:

[Matt Murdock]

I'm surprised that some people are giving it a 1...
I think that people just got home from the movie and said to themselves, "UGH! That was an older, wiser Indiana Jones, not the second coming of Christ like I expected!"

[DarknessOfDeath]

Are you referring to our slithery cold blood friends or George Lucas?

And, whatever, I'm game for Indy 5. I had more fun waiting for Indy 4 then actually experiencing it. I'm not knocking the movie, but just stating the truth.

Both...

Im hoping that Ford is more upfront with Spielberg (if Steve gives #5 a go) and Lucas takes a step back concerning post-production (CGI).

IF your gonna have animals, use real ones, damnit!

With that being said, I think that one shot of the close-up Monkey Mutt comes face to face is real... the other ones are merely just clones and don't look so good - especially when the CGI monkies attack Irina and co.

The rest im okay with.

[OctaviusINC]

^Agreed

And...

If you guys want a decent Indy Fedora without spending a torso:
http://www.sheplers.com/hats/wool_felt_hats/096a12.html

[DarknessOfDeath]

heh... you guys are better off with getting one from the official indiana jones site... 39.99? heck, I paid mine for a $1 less. plus shipping and handling of course..

[DarknessOfDeath]

what the hell... I typed in Karen Allen in the yahoo search bar for images... and guess what came up... yeah... boobies. Like I needed to see her boobies...

*sighs*

[Starbird]

I gave it a 7..:)

[OctaviusINC]

heh... you guys are better off with getting one from the official indiana jones site... 39.99? heck, I paid mine for a $1 less. plus shipping and handling of course..

The ones from the official Indy store are machine pressed and if you're serious about wearing them, don't last long and don't look much like Indy's fedora. Take it the wool crushable isn't EXACTLY like Indy's but us better overall. You could put the crushable hat through hell and it'll pop right back into form.

[DarknessOfDeath]

The ones from the official Indy store are machine pressed and if you're serious about wearing them, don't last long and don't look much like Indy's fedora. Take it the wool crushable isn't EXACTLY like Indy's but us better overall. You could put the crushable hat through hell and it'll pop right back into form.


...

Dorfman Pacific is the company and official headwear licensee for Lucasfilm - for 20 years


Im hoping that 70 bucks I just mailed today isn't worthless.

[danoyse]

I think I'll get my hat at Disney's MGM studios in florida.

My dad got one at Disneyland in California last month. The Indiana Jones ride there is awesome. :up:

This is what I got:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/JenM512/P5240597.jpg

:woot:

[The Man of Steel]

:funny:

[danoyse]

I also have a Darth Mickey (and Darth Goofy), a Jedi Mickey, and a Pirates of the Caribbean Mickey...so this one fits right in. :woot:

[spideyboy_1111]

i almost bought an indy hat at disneyland a few weeks ago.. but it was $40 and totally didn't look right on me... i have a wierd head for hats

[danoyse]

I kept wearing my dad's when we were there, and it actually looked pretty good...my dad kept trying to get me to buy one for myself, but I honestly don't know where I'd actually wear it outside of Disneyland.

My dad also got a t-shirt of Indy being dragged by the tank in LC that said "It's not the years, it's the mileage."

[theShape]

The fridge business in the beginning made me want to vomit. Shia swinging with the monkeys was worse than I had imagined. The swordfight on the speeding trucks was atrocious. The alien from Signs at the end had me laughing. This was by far the most ridiculous Indiana Jones film yet, and there were so many moments that felt so unlike Indy.

With that said, it was still entertaing. Ford was great, and Shia wasn't too shabby either. Loved the Marion/Inday/Mutt shenanigans. The center of the film brought me back to the good old days of Indy, before the ending messed it up.

I give it a 6.8/10.

[cerealkiller182]

6.8? How exact!

[The Man of Steel]

6.8/10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

[DACrowe]

The fridge business in the beginning made me want to vomit. Shia swinging with the monkeys was worse than I had imagined. The swordfight on the speeding trucks was atrocious. The alien from Signs at the end had me laughing. This was by far the most ridiculous Indiana Jones film yet, and there were so many moments that felt so unlike Indy.

With that said, it was still entertaing. Ford was great, and Shia wasn't too shabby either. Loved the Marion/Inday/Mutt shenanigans. The center of the film brought me back to the good old days of Indy, before the ending messed it up.

I give it a 6.8/10.

The middle? I thought you hated the chase and all that stuff? Unless you mean the exposition portion which was a good deal of fun, but I say Indy has always been campy (though the swinging took it too far). I agree with you on the ending involving aliens, though. Albeit it didn't ruin the movie for me.

[theShape]

6.8? How exact!

That's how I roll.

[The Man of Steel]

*kills TheShape and cerealkiller182 with bullwhip*

[cerealkiller182]

wtf did i do

[theShape]

The middle? I thought you hated the chase and all that stuff? Unless you mean the exposition portion which was a good deal of fun, but I say Indy has always been campy (though the swinging took it too far). I agree with you on the ending involving aliens, though. Albeit it didn't ruin the movie for me.

The motorcycle chase, going through the various lairs following Oxley's trail...that was good Indiana Jones. I actually like the mystery in this one a lot up until the end.

I know Indy's always been campy, but swinging with monkeys? I can understand f he grabbed one vine and swung somewhere, like Indy does with his whip, but Mutt became Spider-man! He was weightless, and it was a little too silly for my taste.

Then there's the fridge business. I've seen some ridiculous things in Indiana Jones movies before, but this was by far the most ridiculous. Again, I can understand if he got in the fridge, the atomic blast hit, and all that was left amidst the rubble of and destruction was the firdge..and Indy stumbled out. But no. He hid in the fridge and it literally flew thousands of feet, being smashed around and hitting everything on the way down, including the bad guys. The, it smashed into the rocks and rolled around some more, and Indy popped out and walked away, unscathed. What kind of fridge was this? Yes, it was line with lead, but was it padded with some revolutionary, soft, protective material? It doesn't make an ounce of sense.

I also like Blanchette as Spalko a lot, up until her final moments.

[theShape]

wtf did i do

And what exactly did I do? :huh:

[The Man of Steel]

gave it a 6.8/10 :mad:




















































































































































































































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[theShape]

gave it a 6.8/10 :mad:

It is what it is.

[The Man of Steel]

and you are what you are, crazy ;)

[theShape]

and you are what you are, crazy ;)

Don't be silly. You know I'm right, but if it means anything to you, I'd say Last Crusade is pretty much my favorite. :up:

[The Man of Steel]

Awesome :up:
I Supose you can live then:woot: