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DACrowe
06-13-2008, 04:03 AM
I want to read it and think it sounds like Marion has more to do and the ending is probably much tighter (and the chases are probably less CGI reliant as Koepp's screenplay). But the nuked fridge and aliens are still there and people would still *****. I personally like the character of Mutt, though. :o
DACrowe
06-13-2008, 04:04 AM
:huh: I think maybe you should follow that advise lol. Go see something else, already.
Are you going to see TDK multiple times? If so that is called hypocracy.
I thought the movie was even better the 2nd time. I'm hoping to catch it at least one more time before the summer is out. :up:
Indeed, for some reason the second time around everything flowed better for me... i also hope to see it one more time before the summer ends :woot:
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2008, 02:27 PM
I have no problem with what we got of Marion. Hell, if you watch raiders, the same can be said about her too. She wasn't in it that much either but she served her role purposely in the movie even though she didn't have much to do other than getting herself kidnapped twice, being the one to protect the Ra arti-fact she kept on a necklace and falling in love with Indy.
She's the still same, and yeah, she has aged in 20 years - so what? She's a mom now and she too served her purpose in the movie. Yeah, she got herself kidnapped... and fell in love with Indy - again. I think Marion being a mom, adds depth to her character now - without her in this movie, we'd be wondering where she is and what she's doing. I am glad Marion returned cause she belongs with Indy no matter what and she knows him better than any body.
So Marion as a mom has changed my perspective of her character in a way that makes her that much interesting and fun. :)
Oh and I love the look exchange between Marion and Irina during the jungle chase sequence. haha.
RockSP
06-13-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm pretty sure you'll see TDK one billion times.
Are you going to see TDK multiple times? If so that is called hypocracy.
:huh:
Are you guys confusing me with someone else? What makes you think I'm obsessed with The Dark Knight? lol
I'm going to go see it once, like I do 99% of the movies I go to.
chaseter
06-13-2008, 05:07 PM
Seen Iron Man 3 times, Indy 2 times, and will probably see TDK a minimum of 2. I believe if a movie is extremely good...why not support the ones who made it so that we might get more? I saw SM3 twice, hoping the second time it would be better, and sadly lost my money on both showings. I usually see movies opening day/weekend and once just before it is out of theatres.
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-13-2008, 05:32 PM
Saw this again today and loved it just as much if not more than the first time, for me, this could be just above ToD, which i find to be the worst of the Indy series (though still awesome). 2nd time around I still thought Shia was awesome in the movie, and Blanchett, who i have never really found that attractive, was both great and smoking hot as Irina.
Honestly dont see people problem with this movie, it is definately an Indy movie, and a very good one.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2008, 06:55 PM
Seen Iron Man 3 times, Indy 2 times, and will probably see TDK a minimum of 2. I believe if a movie is extremely good...why not support the ones who made it so that we might get more? I saw SM3 twice, hoping the second time it would be better, and sadly lost my money on both showings. I usually see movies opening day/weekend and once just before it is out of theatres.
I added you to my AIM list... if thats cool with ya?
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-13-2008, 06:59 PM
Seen Iron Man 3 times, Indy 2 times, and will probably see TDK a minimum of 2. I believe if a movie is extremely good...why not support the ones who made it so that we might get more? I saw SM3 twice, hoping the second time it would be better, and sadly lost my money on both showings. I usually see movies opening day/weekend and once just before it is out of theatres.
Agreed, though i thought Spidey 3 was ok.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2008, 07:03 PM
Agreed, though i thought Spidey 3 was ok.
I thought so too but it could have been better.
I was going to see it again but I never did... didn't bother to. *shrugs* I still havn't seen it on dvd since I saw it theaters lol.
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-13-2008, 07:08 PM
I thought so too but it could have been better.
I was going to see it again but I never did... didn't bother to. *shrugs* I still havn't seen it on dvd since I saw it theaters lol.
It actually plays MUCH better on DVD than it did at the cinema, i thought it was ok at the cinema, but on DVD, i realised it was actually a pretty good movie.
DACrowe
06-13-2008, 09:14 PM
My thoughts on SM3 was the first half is the movie Raimi wanted to make and then when the symbiote bonds with Peter it turns into something else. I still enjoy it and think the backlash is far larger than any flaws in the movie, but pissing off Venom fans has the worst wrath I've ever seen. ;) :p
My opinion is like IDIV (albeit KOTCS was much better), it didn't live up to hype or expectations, but was still a fun movie that had good things that are ignored for the sheep mentality of internet fans who love throwing tubs out with the bath water. Both I thought were worthy of their franchise names at the end of the day and worth owning. While I thought X3 and POTC sequels were disgraces and never completed my collection with them.
Kind of long winded, but eh.
I do think both get better with time and the hype fades, but if you really hate either of 'em, chances are that initial bad taste will never leave. Fortunately that was not the case for myself. ;)
DACrowe
06-13-2008, 09:22 PM
Oh movies I saw multiple times in theaters:
from what I recall-
Spider-Man: 2 times
X2: 2 times
Return of the King: Two times
Spider-Man 2: 2 times
The Aviator: 2 times
Phantom of the Opera: 2 times (sue me :p )
ROTS: 3 times (oops)
Batman Begins: 3 times
The Departed: 2 times
Hot Fuzz: 2 times
Black Snake Moan: 2 times
Spider-Man 3: 3 times
There Will Be Blood: 2 times
Juno: 2 times
Sweeney Todd: 2 times
Iron Man: 2 times
KOTCS: 2 times
Wow that sounded narcissistic. I apologize and was just trying to count them all
Spider-Vader
06-14-2008, 03:13 AM
Why oops with ROTS? It's the best of the prequels & is a good movie.
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-14-2008, 07:15 AM
My thoughts on SM3 was the first half is the movie Raimi wanted to make and then when the symbiote bonds with Peter it turns into something else. I still enjoy it and think the backlash is far larger than any flaws in the movie, but pissing off Venom fans has the worst wrath I've ever seen. ;) :p
My opinion is like IDIV (albeit KOTCS was much better), it didn't live up to hype or expectations, but was still a fun movie that had good things that are ignored for the sheep mentality of internet fans who love throwing tubs out with the bath water. Both I thought were worthy of their franchise names at the end of the day and worth owning. While I thought X3 and POTC sequels were disgraces and never completed my collection with them.
Kind of long winded, but eh.
I do think both get better with time and the hype fades, but if you really hate either of 'em, chances are that initial bad taste will never leave. Fortunately that was not the case for myself. ;)
Agreed about X3, i actually bought it hoping what i saw in the cinema was a joke played by the manager, i was wrong.
I liked the the POTC sequels enough to buy them, and i watch them every now and then, i like POTC 3 just as much as Spidey 3.
But Indy 4 is better than all of them, a really enjoyable movie that will sit well in its place in the franchise.
Cagefighterkip
06-15-2008, 12:50 AM
loved it, seen it 3times...
chaseter
06-15-2008, 01:09 AM
I added you to my AIM list... if thats cool with ya?
Yes
Joker'sHenchman
06-15-2008, 04:21 PM
Would someone mind sending me any of the versions of the KOTCS script? I would really appreciate it.
The Chris
06-15-2008, 05:15 PM
Saw it again today, as a gift for my father. He loved it. Kept saying excellent. He got everything reference. Loved the fun. He was really happy.
Downhere
06-15-2008, 06:43 PM
Saw Indy today, awesome movie. Loved all the links to the old films and the ending was great.
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Saw it again today, as a gift for my father. He loved it. Kept saying excellent. He got everything reference. Loved the fun. He was really happy.
I think older people will enjoy it more, given the age Indy is in the movie, but then again, i'm 25 and i LOVED it!
DarknessOfDeath
06-15-2008, 08:17 PM
I guess its okay now to come out and say it...
I loved it too :D
dark_b
06-16-2008, 06:26 AM
was this already posted?
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=059905
how they made the skulls
Ooh cool, i hadnt seen that dark_b, tnx for posting :woot:
RonStoppablefan
06-16-2008, 02:47 PM
I've seen Indy 2, it was good both times. I need to get that DVD when it comes out.
Johnny Drama
06-16-2008, 02:50 PM
That dvd came out years ago, hombre...
mr. peasant
06-16-2008, 08:33 PM
was this already posted?
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=059905
how they made the skulls
Wow! The skull prototypes look really good and detailed; it looks almost believable/possible. Certainly more so than what we saw on the big screen. Even the end products look pretty good. In my opinion, it's the glowy/light effect they used on the skulls that spoiled the design, obscuring the details and making it look cheap and plastic.
spideyboy_1111
06-17-2008, 12:13 AM
Wow! The skull prototypes look really good and detailed; it looks almost believable/possible. Certainly more so than what we saw on the big screen. Even the end products look pretty good. In my opinion, it's the glowy/light effect they used on the skulls that spoiled the design, obscuring the details and making it look cheap and plastic.
agreed. when i was watching the movie, it looked like they had tinfoil in them :(
chaseter
06-17-2008, 12:15 AM
agreed. when i was watching the movie, it looked like they had tinfoil in them :(
If you look close, the stuff inside the skulls move.
spideyboy_1111
06-17-2008, 12:26 AM
If you look close, the stuff inside the skulls move.
only noticed that in like only one or 2 scenes
Lord Blackbolt
06-17-2008, 07:52 PM
Looks like this movie will be in a tight race with Iron man for top grossing movie of the summer. Indy is gaining on Shell head fast.
Cagefighterkip
06-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Looks like this movie will be in a tight race with Iron man for top grossing movie of the summer. Indy is gaining on Shell head fast.
both those rocked, but i think DARK KNIGHT is gonna be #1 box office
Numbers by boxofficemojo.com:
Iron Man = $548,171,317 (Domestic and Foreign)
Indy 4 = $637,473,953 (Domestic and Foreign)
In the USA Iron Man has done better than Indy 4, but worldwide, Indy 4 is kicking some butt :woot:
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-19-2008, 06:24 AM
Do you guys think we will ever get 2-disc editions of all the movies? I didnt realise the new versions were only 1 discer's.
Maybe with the eventual Blu-Ray release, who knows...
AVEITWITHJAMON
06-22-2008, 08:30 AM
^I havent been keeping up with all of this Blu-Ray stuff, is HD-DVD dead now? Is Blu-Ray the future of DVD for sure now?
mehdi5
06-22-2008, 10:27 AM
^I havent been keeping up with all of this Blu-Ray stuff, is HD-DVD dead now? Is Blu-Ray the future of DVD for sure now?
Yep HD-DVD is dead, as good as everyone's gone blu and Blu is the future DVD.
That'ssuper!
06-23-2008, 12:41 AM
They need to include the deleted scenes for this film, unlike the other releasees where it's just the movie and a few bonuses features.
Numbers by boxofficemojo.com:
Iron Man = $548,171,317 (Domestic and Foreign)
Indy 4 = $637,473,953 (Domestic and Foreign)
In the USA Iron Man has done better than Indy 4, but worldwide, Indy 4 is kicking some butt :woot:
damn it. you beat me to it. i was gonna post this godly news. :)
Indy rules the world!
damn it. you beat me to it. i was gonna post this godly news. :)
Indy rules the world!
Well, it's even more now :oldrazz:
Indy 4: $650,291,424 (Domestic and Foreign)
Iron Man: $554,320,100 (Domestic and Foreign)
NHawk19
06-23-2008, 12:34 PM
I saw it about 2 weeks ago for the first time and thought it started out fantastic. My issues dont sound any different than any one elses The atomic blast and fridge were a little over the top, as was the alien aspecet. The only other thing was the CG. I thought the sequences prior to the end were shot wonderfully with what appeared to be minimal CG. Again the very end could have been altered with some CG which wasn't as crisp. (think jabba in ROJ vs the ANH added scene) Lucas did some wonderful things with CG in the past but he still needs to realize that sometimes CG cannot take the place of a physical prop.
BloodyWolverine
06-23-2008, 12:53 PM
I think the ship rising up and the temple breaking away was one of the better cgi scenes in a while in summer movies.
Jack Napier
06-23-2008, 08:31 PM
Unfortunately.
Oh, blow it out your ass. It was a fun movie.
Cagefighterkip
06-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Oh, blow it out your ass. It was a fun movie.
agreed, lol
Johnny Drama
06-23-2008, 10:28 PM
Yeah, I loved it.
People are fickle.
Cagefighterkip
06-23-2008, 10:33 PM
Yeah, I loved it.
People are fickle.
or stupid.... yeah stupid could be the word lol :P
Johnny Drama
06-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Lol no, I wouldn't call anyone stupid for not liking Indy 4,
I would call them fickle lame asses, but that is just my opinion.
Indy 4 had some bad elements that irked me me but overall the movie had potential to be much worse, I have read up on Spielberg and Lucas' proposed ideas for the fourth installment. They are pretty scary.
The alien aspect worked because this was an Indiana Jones movie in a different generation, the 50's, when the country was terrafied of UFOs and Russians.
Some people wan't to see Indy raiding caves and fighting Nazis forever I suppose.
Cagefighterkip
06-24-2008, 03:56 PM
i suppose so lol
Gilpesh
06-24-2008, 04:01 PM
I went for Indiana Jones... I got Star Wars. ugh
That'ssuper!
06-25-2008, 12:32 AM
I sick of generic villains though. Nazis, Nazis, Nazis, and a little bit of the Russians. They are basically all the same. TOD had the Cult of Kuli, which was at least original. I want something other than an American enemy going after an artifact for world dominance. Let's have someone like rogue imperialistists, anarchists, corrupt politicians, something new please!
Well take into consideration the timeline for all the Indy movies... those bad guys make sense
That'ssuper!
06-25-2008, 08:41 PM
Well take into consideration the timeline for all the Indy movies... those bad guys make sense
In the 1950s and 60s it is possible to have imperialitists who have a lot of interest in searching for a mythological artifact to retain control over a nation that once belonged to an empire.
chaseter
06-25-2008, 11:00 PM
^What is different than Russians wanting to rule the world than imperialists wanting to rule the world? They would be stylized villians like the Nazi and Russian characters. And TOD was easily the weakest and the only movie of the 4 that is out of place and does not fit in with the rest of the films. Never have I hated a kid more than I did when I saw that movie.
That'ssuper!
06-26-2008, 12:01 AM
^What is different than Russians wanting to rule the world than imperialists wanting to rule the world? They would be stylized villians like the Nazi and Russian characters. And TOD was easily the weakest and the only movie of the 4 that is out of place and does not fit in with the rest of the films. Never have I hated a kid more than I did when I saw that movie.
I see your point. At least it would be interesting to see some other generations of villains. Chinese Communists, Japanese villains for something before World War II. South American dictators even would work fine.
Jack Napier
06-27-2008, 01:32 AM
I went for Indiana Jones... I got Star Wars. ugh
Did the projectionist screen Episode II by accident? Maybe it was George Lucas running it. Unless that happened, you went for Indiana Jones and got it.
^What is different than Russians wanting to rule the world than imperialists wanting to rule the world? They would be stylized villians like the Nazi and Russian characters. And TOD was easily the weakest and the only movie of the 4 that is out of place and does not fit in with the rest of the films. Never have I hated a kid more than I did when I saw that movie.
Awww how can you hate Short Round!? :huh:
Spider-Vader
06-27-2008, 11:55 AM
Because he's a nazi communist decepticon. :p
Gilpesh
06-27-2008, 12:28 PM
Did the projectionist screen Episode II by accident? Maybe it was George Lucas running it. Unless that happened, you went for Indiana Jones and got it.
You know... the sad thing is... it was actually Indiana Jones: episode I attack of the worst things in every script that was shown to Lucas.
chaseter
06-27-2008, 01:58 PM
Awww how can you hate Short Round!? :huh:
If Short Round and 'Data' from the Goonies teamed up and made a movie I would kill myself:o
If Short Round and 'Data' from the Goonies teamed up and made a movie I would kill myself:o
:hehe: now ur making me want to go watch TOD and the Goonies :oldrazz:
Punisher RULES
06-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Any idea about the DVD release date?
Jack Napier
06-28-2008, 02:18 AM
You know... the sad thing is... it was actually Indiana Jones: episode I attack of the worst things in every script that was shown to Lucas.
Quit acting like watching an Indiana Jones movie was the worst spent 2 hours of your life. You're on a message board, for ****'s sake.
Gilpesh
06-28-2008, 03:07 AM
Quit acting like watching an Indiana Jones movie was the worst spent 2 hours of your life.
You're on a message board, for ****'s sake.
You're sending mixed signals... haha
*Dark_Phoenix*
06-28-2008, 06:27 PM
OMFG... This one really sucked... this piece of crap should be named "Indiana Jones: The return of ET"
Jack Napier
06-28-2008, 06:39 PM
OMFG... This one really sucked... this piece of crap should be named "Indiana Jones: The return of ET"
You're right, they should've gone with something more believable, like say, magic rocks or a cup that gives everlasting life to whoever drinks from it. :whatever:
Conebone69
06-28-2008, 06:55 PM
This threads still alive? :whatever:
You're right, they should've gone with something more believable, like say, magic rocks or a cup that gives everlasting life to whoever drinks from it. :whatever:
:hehe:
Yeah this thread lives, just like the movie is still going :oldrazz:
I would think the dvd release for this should be around december...
You're right, they should've gone with something more believable, like say, magic rocks or a cup that gives everlasting life to whoever drinks from it. :whatever:
Hahahaha :hehe: :up:
Cagefighterkip
06-28-2008, 11:31 PM
i saw it today w/1 of my nearest and dearest (4th time for me, 1st for her) and the theater was surprisingly packed (id say waaay over half full and its been out over a month!) go indy!
Go Indy indeed!
I :heart: this movie.
Spider-Vader
06-29-2008, 12:09 AM
Indy t-bags TDK. Thought that will also be awesome.
DieSmiling
06-29-2008, 12:49 PM
You're right, they should've gone with something more believable, like say, magic rocks or a cup that gives everlasting life to whoever drinks from it. :whatever:
There's a difference between religious artifacts and aliens though. Obviously it's all fantastical and unrealistic, but I don't see how you can blame people who don't like the science fiction aspect of this movie. It's very out of place in the series (and while it fits the 50s theme, it's just... Off).
chaseter
06-29-2008, 01:12 PM
There's a difference between religious artifacts and aliens though. Obviously it's all fantastical and unrealistic, but I don't see how you can blame people who don't like the science fiction aspect of this movie. It's very out of place in the series (and while it fits the 50s theme, it's just... Off).
Except the weird thing is that the some crystal skulls have actually been found and we can't find the Ark or the Grail.
The Indy series is not only about religious artifacts. It is about a man who doesn't believe in the supernatural having experiences with artifacts that are supernatural.
Lord Blackbolt
06-29-2008, 04:32 PM
Bingo... and yippie for Indy reaching 300 million... he's right on Shellheads toes
Fanticon
06-29-2008, 05:09 PM
300m is sooo close...after this weekends estimates its at 299,936,000.
DarknessOfDeath
06-29-2008, 05:27 PM
THE INDY FUTURE: QUESTIONABLE, STILL INDY IS FORD
IESB.net (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=227&task=videodirectlink&id=1212) got an interview with producer Frank Marshall on the red carpet of the 34th Saturn Awards on Wednesday. Marshall had a few comments on Bourne 4 and the future of Indiana Jones.
On Jason Bourne:
Bourne will be heading South America way, he's still played by Matt Damon, shooting of the hitherto unnamed movie is planned for next summer and the release of the movie is set to 2010.
On Indiana Jones:
Will there be an Indy 5? Questionable, considering the time it took to get the last script written. A movie about Indy jr, perhaps? Quote Frank Marshall: "We didn't let him take the hat. Still Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford".
RonStoppablefan
06-29-2008, 09:28 PM
I hope the next film is about Indy Jr that would be so cool ^^
chaseter
06-29-2008, 09:31 PM
^Nooooooooooo. Shia can not continue this franchise alone.
DarknessOfDeath
06-29-2008, 09:34 PM
I hope the next film is about Indy Jr that would be so cool ^^
^Nooooooooooo. Shia can not continue this franchise alone.
uh..guys. re read this line:
Quote Frank Marshall: "We didn't let him take the hat. Still Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford".
Balthus Dire
06-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Except the weird thing is that the some crystal skulls have actually been found and we can't find the Ark or the Grail.
The Indy series is not only about religious artifacts. It is about a man who doesn't believe in the supernatural having experiences with artifacts that are supernatural.
That's the thing though....I wouldn't quite call the Crystal Skull supernatural. All of the other artifacts Indy discovered in the previous films have had no other real explanation to them other than that they are just that...supernatural.
Whereas the Crystal Skull is an alien skeleton, and Aliens are revealed to be the explanation. Nothing really supernatural there. Extraterestrial, maybe. Not supernatural.
It's quite different.
spideyboy_1111
06-29-2008, 10:14 PM
That's the thing though....I wouldn't quite call the Crystal Skull supernatural. All of the other artifacts Indy discovered in the previous films have had no other real explanation to them other than that they are just that...supernatural.
Whereas the Crystal Skull is an alien skeleton, and Aliens are revealed to be the explanation. Nothing really supernatural there. Extraterestrial, maybe. Not supernatural.
It's quite different.
i concur! i brought this up a while ago. I consider Sci-fi and supernatural 2 different things. advanced technology and aliens are sci-fi to me, where magic, cryptozology etc.. are not.
spideyboy_1111
06-29-2008, 10:18 PM
hows the indy theaters been now? i just saw ironman for my third time today... (i saw it opening day, last week with friends who havent seen it, and this afternoon with my mom, who wanted to see it.
The theater last weekend was pretty packed still, which surprised me, and today during the matinée it had probably between 20-30 people in it.. which imo is still damn good for a movie thats been out over a month and during a matinées.. most at that time usually have no one in it.
chaseter
06-29-2008, 10:26 PM
Read this and titilate at its awesomeness
Script: (Unsubstantiated) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Writer: George Lucas and David Koepp.... ALLEGEDLY
Authenticity: Weaker than weak. How about "flaccid"?
If you go to SuperShadow.com, you'll be introduced to SuperShadow, a man who claims to be "very close, personal friends with George Lucas" and alleges that his website "played a crucial role in the development of the Star Wars prequel trilogy." He even states that: "Lucas has acknowledged many times in public that SuperShadow is the best thing to ever happen to Star Wars" and that "SuperShadow.com is the official web site of George Lucas." (If you can find proof of ANY of these claims, then you're the real archeologist, not Dr. Jones.)
Mr. Shadow has created a formula that SUPPOSEDLY breaks down the plot of every Indiana Jones movie, and he claims to have detailed plot outlines for Indiana Jones 4 (and Indiana Jones 5 too!). The ONLY reason we're even mentioning this... ahem... "special" individual is that his plot summary has been re-pasted onto several message boards (with claims of its authenticity) and we don't want anyone unfamiliar with SS to be taken in by the... let's just say it... hoax.
The one thing you have to give SuperShadow credit for is his ability to take the tiny bits of information leaking out about the production and weave them into his flimsy narrative. If you've read the Vanity Fair article about Indy 4, saw some of the on-set photos from Yale, looked at the cast announcements, and read one or two interviews, you could've written a similar plot summary.
Basically, it claims that Abner Ravenwood, Indy's mentor and Marion's father, was even more interested in the Crystal Skulls than the Lost Ark, but apparently, he never mentioned it much. When Indy's colleague Hawthorne (Jim Broadbent's character) brings Indy a crystal skull to examine in the 1950s, the Russians kill Hawthorne and take the skull, leaving Indy and his student Mutt to track it down. The Commies capture Indy and Mutt and, by an AMAZING coincidence, they're also holding Marion, who admits that (unbeknown to ANYONE) that Mutt is Indy's son. It gets worse from there.
CONCLUSION:
Don't believe the hype. If you read online that someone's read a script for Indiana Jones 4, take it with a BIG, BIG GRAIN OF SALT. This is one of the most anticipated movies in YEARS, so you know that the security surrounding the project is airtight. (Well, except for the image debacle a few months ago... and the Russian dancer extra who ignored his non-disclosure agreement... never mind.) If you read anything about Indy and the Monkey King, Saucer Men, Sword of Arthur, Sons of Darkness, Lost City of Atlantis, or a Tomb of Ice - smile, nod, and check your calendar again. Memorial Day 2008 simply can't get here fast enough.
This was written well over a year ago before we got any news of Indy 4. What is awesome is that the source mentioned an Indy 5 script and was obviously right about Indy 4 and its plot. YAY!
Jack Napier
06-30-2008, 01:13 AM
There's a difference between religious artifacts and aliens though. Obviously it's all fantastical and unrealistic, but I don't see how you can blame people who don't like the science fiction aspect of this movie. It's very out of place in the series (and while it fits the 50s theme, it's just... Off).
The problem with aliens that people have is that they've been covered in so many other films. However, reading into it, the crystal skulls do have a fascinating origin, and the Soviets were interested in mind control back in the 1950's.
It may have felt out of place in the series, but if some people had it their way, Indy would still be fighting Nazis. I'm glad the series was taken in new directions by TOD and KOTCS.
chaseter: i'd take anything that Supershadow says with a huge grain of salt :hehe:
Indy theathers are still with people here too, i'm surprised. My sister and her bf went to see it finally and they told me there was still enough ppl that they had to wait in line for a bit. Oh, and they also loved the alien twist, they found it quite fascinating :woot:
chaseter
06-30-2008, 02:48 PM
^Do you see how that site reviewed Supershadow's plot that he got and it was the actual movie? That was not from Supershadow's site, it was from an Indy fan site. Along with that script, there were 4 others but Supershadow was actually right! So if he says he has seen the rough draft for Indy 5 and has it on his website...he might actually be right.
Well Supershadow also claims he has the scripts for Episodes 7,8 and 9 :hehe:... i'm just saying, be wary of the stuff he posts, for not all has been accurate historically :cwink:
chaseter
06-30-2008, 03:20 PM
Well Supershadow also claims he has the scripts for Episodes 7,8 and 9 :hehe:... i'm just saying, be wary of the stuff he posts, for not all has been accurate historically :cwink:
Yea I read his scripts for 7, 8, and 9 and he also claims to have 10, 11, and 12:whatever: They were pretty dumb but you never know. I mean it seriously wouldn't surprise me if they did another Indy and of course it would have to be relatively soon as Harrison is getting old. The basic plot was that he finds Ginghis Khan's tomb, is captured by the Chinese, and then helps the British find Christ's cross before the Chinese do. Sounds pretty decent:o
Untilteld
06-30-2008, 03:21 PM
Indiana Jones and The Cross of Christ?
chaseter
06-30-2008, 03:54 PM
^That is the big artifact he is looking for but I doubt that will be the title.
DarknessOfDeath
06-30-2008, 10:25 PM
Please don't mention him again. He's always mentioned at the JC forums at theforce.net
Seriously, I have no respect for the guy who claims he has the script to any movie related to Star Wars 7-9 when clearly, Lucas has said that he's done with SW.
The guy even makes up his own crap and claims it is the real deal when in fact, its not but when he steals spy reports, he'll copy it but use his own words, claim he really interviewed Mr. Lucas and so on and so forth. This is from a guy whose head is so far up his ass that I am not surprised his site has lasted this long to continue making crap up from a horses's ass.
If you read the books: Heir to the empire, Dark force rising, The Last command, those are NOT the Episode 7,8,9 scripts, which he claims they are. I mean he took em right out of the pages of those GREAT books. What a wasted effort. I'd say dream on, geez.
With all due respect to all posters here, please, don't mention his name again cause he is a liar and claims most of the spy reports are his when they're not. He's delusional.
Im done.
chaseter
07-01-2008, 01:13 AM
^This isn't the Star Wars thread this is the Indiana Jones thread and by some off change he did have the script a year or two before this release and he claims to have the fifth movie so it does warrant some inquiry.
Well i really dont like that cross of Christ plot to be honest :huh:
DarknessOfDeath
07-01-2008, 09:55 AM
^This isn't the Star Wars thread this is the Indiana Jones thread and by some off change he did have the script a year or two before this release and he claims to have the fifth movie so it does warrant some inquiry.
I'm talking about any form of script related to Lucas and that means Indiana Jones included...
The guy has too much on his hands as it is, why steal certain spy reports and claim em as if they came from you?
I know an idiot when I see one.
His name, alone, shouldn't even be mentioned on any message forum.
Carmine Falcone
07-01-2008, 10:34 AM
I'll post this here aswell:
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/200805/20080526ho_blanchettfordindianajones7_500.jpg
Well....it's been 19 years. We had Jackson mucking around with King Kong, and some, to me anonymous, loons making **** with the likes of Nicholas Cage and the guy with the short arms Matthew -- something. Forget all those so called adventure movies made by jokers. Steven Spielberg, Harisson Ford and Company are back to show you how it's really done.
When the news hit that a new Indiana Jones installment was coming, gossip burst loose. And ofcourse, judgment on the movie was made, and the production was spied on to see if it was ''coming together properly''. Expectations were lowered or went through the roof. Luckily, I avoided all that and just watched the trailer. So, with very little expectations I finally caught it today. And man, did I ****ing enjoy it.
Indy's back. And he's pulpier than ever. This might put some people off. But I think; the crazier the better. The more fantastic the scenario's, the more fun. Because this is, by far, the most outrageous of the series. The Holy Grail, The Ark of the Covenant; they all seem like everyday kitchen and sink stories. Nothing to raise your eyebrows for. What we get here is SO Pulp and SO over-the-top I couldn't help but enjoy it tremendously. When the throned Aliens were revealed and later an UFO I could imagine the next installment taking place on Mars, with Indy in a 50's spacesuit fighting crab-like Martians armned with a laser-bazooka. It also sets itself apart from the other films in the 50's setting. Which I loved. The FBI guys in dark suits with horn-rimmed glasses, the Anti-communist protests, the Russian villains with thick accents (wonderful performance by Blanchett) The greasers and frat boys, the cars. It's all really well done with truly wonderful art-direction.
It's been quite a while that I was actually impressed by special effects and computer generated action. You just....get used to it I guess. It's nothing special anymore. Last year these big spectacles did very little for me anymore. Despite the great achievements they are at times, sometimes they're just boring for whatever reason -- desinterest for the story seems like a good explanation. Good examples of these boring scenes are the Golden Gate Bridge stunt from X Men 3 and the final sequence of Pirates of The Caribbean 3. Very well done. But my jaw didn't drop. With this film it's another story alltogether. My jaw hit the (by that time Popcorn-riddled) floor hardcore-style when the big valley was lifted into the air and the UFO came out. That was simply stunning.
Spielberg is the über-director. Ask ANYONE to name a director. And his name is liable to pop up 9 out of 10 times. He's a true master. He knows so incredibly well to stage and shoot a action sequence. It just evokes envy. The opening sequence to this film is wonderful, the bike-car chase through the campus is thrilling and so is the insane jungle chase which even features sword fighting.
The film is not without it's flaws. There's the atrocious, gob smacking Monkey-swinging scene. But on the other hand; this is family entertainment afterall. Also, Karen Alle'n's role feels very tacked on, a desperate attempt to connect it with the other films, and all she does is grin like an idiot.
So, in conclusion. This is probably the most fun-filled enjoyable CGI-action romp you'll find this summer. People were clapping, cheering and laughing. So just ditch whatever your expectations are and enjoy this for what it is. It both connects and sets itself apart from the other movies. The cinematography and vibe is the same, but the script is more out-there than ever.
My favourite blockbuste moment from this year so far: Indiana Jones hiding in a refrigerator form a Nuclear blast. Wow.
9/10
mr. peasant
07-01-2008, 12:32 PM
Indiana Jones and The Cross of Christ?
As he's looking for Genghis Khan's tomb, I wouldn't be too surprised if the title was something like:
"Indiana Jones and the Legacy of Khan"
chaseter
07-01-2008, 01:09 PM
^Or Indiana Jones and Emperor's Tomb or Indiana Jones and Cross of Kings
chaseter
07-01-2008, 01:10 PM
I'm talking about any form of script related to Lucas and that means Indiana Jones included...
The guy has too much on his hands as it is, why steal certain spy reports and claim em as if they came from you?
I know an idiot when I see one.
His name, alone, shouldn't even be mentioned on any message forum.
Bipolar much:wow:
I don't care where information comes from as long as we get it. And the prospects of Indy 5 make me happy.
Cagefighterkip
07-01-2008, 01:51 PM
I'll post this here aswell:
that review you posted...
well there's a dude who knows the time! :) agreed
On Indiana Jones:
Will there be an Indy 5? Questionable, considering the time it took to get the last script written. A movie about Indy jr, perhaps? Quote Frank Marshall: "We didn't let him take the hat. Still Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford".
Here, here :woot: that was such a cool moment :hehe:
Cool review, Carmine.. i agree with you about Karen, i feel she was underused.
chaseter: i think the point that Dr. Indiana Jones is trying to make is that the source isnt reliable. Personally, I'd rather get no info if it isnt reliable. But to each their own :)
Really cool about Indy hitting the 300 million mark in North America :indy:
Carmine Falcone
07-01-2008, 05:14 PM
that review you posted...
well there's a dude who knows the time! :) agreed
I thought there'd be no-one who'd agree with me.
Cool review, Carmine.. i agree with you about Karen, i feel she was underused.
Thanks and yeah. And as in connections to the other movies there were plenty of other cool references. I loved that Marcus Brody statue for instance. :D
Yeah, that Marcus statue was cool :woot:... i can understand why Henry Jones wasnt in it, but i still wish Sallah would have made an appearance :csad:
Spider-Fan
07-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Hard to find a place for Sallah in a movie that only goes to the Americas.
shapeshifter
07-01-2008, 08:55 PM
Hard to find a place for Sallah in a movie that only goes to the Americas.
and that would have just been one more thing from the old movies that they paraded in front of us to remind us that this was supposed to be an Indy film.
DarknessOfDeath
07-01-2008, 10:07 PM
On Indiana Jones:
Will there be an Indy 5? Questionable, considering the time it took to get the last script written. A movie about Indy jr, perhaps? Quote Frank Marshall: "We didn't let him take the hat. Still Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford".
Here, here :woot: that was such a cool moment :hehe:
Cool review, Carmine.. i agree with you about Karen, i feel she was underused.
chaseter: i think the point that Dr. Indiana Jones is trying to make is that the source isnt reliable. Personally, I'd rather get no info if it isnt reliable. But to each their own :)
Really cool about Indy hitting the 300 million mark in North America :indy:
Already posted that on the previous page
DarknessOfDeath
07-01-2008, 10:19 PM
On Indiana Jones:
Will there be an Indy 5? Questionable, considering the time it took to get the last script written. A movie about Indy jr, perhaps? Quote Frank Marshall: "We didn't let him take the hat. Still Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford".
Here, here :woot: that was such a cool moment :hehe:
Cool review, Carmine.. i agree with you about Karen, i feel she was underused.
chaseter: i think the point that Dr. Indiana Jones is trying to make is that the source isnt reliable. Personally, I'd rather get no info if it isnt reliable. But to each their own :)
Really cool about Indy hitting the 300 million mark in North America :indy:
I already posted that on the previous page...
Bipolar much:wow:
I don't care where information comes from as long as we get it. And the prospects of Indy 5 make me happy.
All Im saying is... Supershadow is someone you shouldn't trust when it comes to 'reliable source(s)' and he should remain a thing of the past and in most cases, a lot of users over at the JC forums hate him for all the crap that he claimed was his. Trust me, you don't want to get involve with the kind of discussions related to SS. You have no idea of the BS that went on when the PT came out and this is the sort of thing he's doing with IJ. :down
But anyways...
I go to www.Harrisonfordweb.com (http://www.Harrisonfordweb.com) for my HF/IJ news. Its quick and very accessible. :up:
I already posted that on the previous page...
Yeah, and i was commenting on that...
DarknessOfDeath
07-01-2008, 10:25 PM
Yeah, and i was commenting on that...
Don't trust SS. EVER.
When I posted the comment regarding Frank when he said a 5th IJ might be made, etc, I got that from HarrisonFord's website...
Don't trust SS. EVER.
If u read back, u'll find i was agreeing with u on that :cwink:
hammy
07-01-2008, 11:13 PM
I forgot to post my review.
The beginning was boring, the middle was good, the end was just .. wth? :huh:
hammy
07-01-2008, 11:13 PM
I forgot to post my review.
The beginning was boring, the middle was good, the end was just .. wth? :huh:
I was reading a magazine and there was an article on how "Nuked the fridge" has become the new "Jumped the shark".
Here's a message to the random Internet dork who came up with that "clever" little gem and all the sheep that use it: Eat you-know-what (starts with an "S") and choke on it.
Cagefighterkip
07-04-2008, 11:04 PM
I was reading a magazine and there was an article on how "Nuked the fridge" has become the new "Jumped the shark".
Here's a message to the random Internet dork who came up with that "clever" little gem and all the sheep that use it: Eat you-know-what (starts with an "S") and choke on it.
:)
very much agreed
LostSon88
07-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Seriously.
There is no way "Nuke the fridge" will last. It was just a crap term made up by some disappointed fanboy.
barnface
07-05-2008, 02:04 AM
While it'll never last as a "quote", I still thought it was kind of funny lol...
barnface
07-05-2008, 02:05 AM
While it'll never last as a "quote", I still thought it was kind of funny lol...
Here's this weekend's estimates from Box Office Mojo
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
1. Hellboy II: The Golden Army = $35,885,000
2. Hancock = $33,000,000
3. Journey To The Center of the Earth = $20,580,000
4. Wall-E = $18,509,000
5. Wanted = $11,586,000
6. Get Smart = $7,105,000
7. Meet Dave = $5,300,000
8. Kung Fu Panda = $4,300,000
9. Kit Kittredge: An American Girl = $2,357,000
10. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull = $2,250,000
Indy Box Office
Domestic Total = $310,477,000
Foreign Total = $430,093,965
Worldwide Total = $740,570,965
I'm pleasantly surprised at the strong legs Indy has shown :woot:
Spider-Vader
07-13-2008, 10:27 PM
Looks like Indy will pass Iron Man, domestically & keep the spot. Yeah screw you TDK fanboys.
"The Dark Knight will make 300 million opening weekend, domestic alone"....Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has said that & was serious.
Johnny Drama
07-13-2008, 10:33 PM
Whats with The Dark Knight hate??
The Chris
07-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Looks like Indy will pass Iron Man, domestically & keep the spot. Yeah screw you TDK fanboys.
"The Dark Knight will make 300 million opening weekend, domestic alone"....Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has said that & was serious.
Considering the marketing, the hype with fanboys and sensible folk alike, the absolutely glowing reviews, the fact that school is out, and that it's the last of the mega hyped summer movies, I can't see how it's not possible. I remember Iron Man and Indy 4 being hyped up at this point of time before their releases, but I'm not sure it was anticipated this much.
Rezzo
07-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Whats with The Dark Knight hate??
It's stupid if you ask me when people start bragging that such and such movie made more than such and such. :whatever:
chaseter
07-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Nope, people who think TDK won't do absolutely terriffic are crazy.
Spider-Vader
07-13-2008, 11:37 PM
Whats with The Dark Knight hate??
I'm not hating the movie (I want to see it, that's why you'll occasionally see me in the TDK forums) I'm hating the fanboys. :grin:
I mean look at your sig, that guy is a douchebag. That's also why I hate most BM fanboys.
I think TDK will do good, #3 domestically (or if it's really lucky #2) & #4 WW. (HP will probably blow every movie this year away WW)
I think TDK will do great at the BO this coming weekend, but i think 300 million domestically in one weekend is a bit too high. Sadly, i'm not feeling any hype cause the movie doesnt come out in my country until august :huh: which SUCKS :cmad:
I do hope that by the end of 2008 Indy 4 and TDK take the top honors, just cause those are among the few movies i've been looking forward to this year :woot:
The Chris
07-13-2008, 11:46 PM
I think TDK will do great at the BO this coming weekend, but i think 300 million domestically in one weekend is a bit too high. Sadly, i'm not feeling any hype cause the movie doesnt come out in my country until august :huh: which SUCKS :cmad:
I do hope that by the end of 2008 Indy 4 and TDK take the top honors, just cause those are among the few movies i've been looking forward to this year :woot:
Wait. In one weekend. Thought he was talking about overall. Gosh, no way in one weekend.
A fanboy is just as needed as a radioactive mutant cockroach laying eggs while being up your...well, you get the point.
The "Destroyer of Worlds," George Lucas returns as he wants to do a new direction with Indiana Jones. All I have to say is that, he better have some non-stereotypical villains and base it around Atlantis.
Source: http://www.theraider.net/news/fullstory_indy4.php?id=886
Indiana Jones 5 - Looking for a Direction
28/07/08, 8:35am EST
Talking about Indiana Jones 5 and where to go next, Indy co-creator George Lucas had this to say to Times Online:
Lucas is also considering what to do about the fifth instalment in the Indiana Jones franchise, which he has produced from the outset. The most recent film, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, has taken almost $750m (£375m) at the international box office, and the whip-snapping archeologist remains in high demand, even though his own days as a whippersnapper are behind him (Harrison Ford is two years older than Lucas).
"We were hoping for box-office figures like that, which is, ultimately, with inflation, what the others have done, within 10%," Lucas explains. "So, we squeaked up there. Really, though, it was a challenge getting the story together and getting everybody to agree on it. Indiana Jones only becomes complicated when you have another two people saying ‘I want it this way’ and ‘I want it that way’, whereas, when I first did Jones, I just said, ‘We’ll do it this way’ — and that was much easier. But now I have to accommodate everybody, because they are all big, successful guys, too, so it’s a little hard on a practical level."
"If I can come up with another idea that they like, we’ll do another. Really, with the last one, Steven wasn’t that enthusiastic. I was trying to persuade him. But now Steve is more amenable to doing another one. Yet we still have the issues about the direction we’d like to take. I’m in the future; Steven’s in the past. He’s trying to drag it back to the way they were, I’m trying to push it to a whole different place. So, still we have a sort of tension. This recent one came out of that. It’s kind of a hybrid of our own two ideas, so we’ll see where we are able to take the next one."
So the door is open for an Indy 5 we will just have to see what walks in!
Check out the full article at Times Online as George Lucas also talks about his upcoming Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Red Tails.
And thanks to Grayson Van Leeuwen for the article link.
Posted by Mitchell Hallock
Drizzle
08-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Oh Jesus. No more. Let it rest in peace, Lucas. You have enough money as it is. Same with you, Spielberg.
FaT_tONle
08-02-2008, 09:06 PM
I knew Spielberg couldn't have been happy with that crap of a film... I mean Indy IV was basically another Lost World... this franchise needs to die hard... as much as a like Shia and as good an addition as he was to the franchise (then again not really)... SHia can't carry Indy... and Ford grows more stale by the minute as far as his acting goes (I hate to say it but it's true)... Ford is done... Lucas is done... and if Spielberg continues with this crap he'll be on that level soon enough. These movies need to stop and stop now.
RonStoppablefan
08-02-2008, 09:09 PM
I thought we knew about this? *Ponders* Oh well, will just have to see how Shia can hanndle his own film. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Mutt go on his own adventure, it would be kind of neat.
Nirvana
08-02-2008, 09:15 PM
I want to see one last Indy flick. I mean the original plan was to have five Indy flicks. They should stick to that. :up:
Downhere
08-02-2008, 09:28 PM
I wouldn't mind another Indy flick, but they have to do it fast considering Ford is getting up there in years. And Lucas needs to let the writers and Spielberg have more control on this one. I really enjoyed Indy IV, but I know it could have been better if Lucas didn't mettle with the story.
Spider-Vader
08-03-2008, 04:52 AM
One last Indy, Die Hard & Rambo please.
DarknessOfDeath
08-03-2008, 07:15 AM
Any word on when the dvd will come out?
Browncoat
08-03-2008, 07:43 AM
Any word on when the dvd will come out?
The rumor is the last week in October...so October 28 for the US.
Max Newlander
08-03-2008, 08:25 AM
One last Indy, Die Hard & Rambo please.
As Darth Vader would say "noooooooooooooooo"
I feel the opposite, if I could actually erase the last movie of each above franchise I would.
There was absolutely NO NEED to have a fourth installment of any the above movies. Its all about $$$$ at the end of the day, and not trying to entertain us with decent movies to enhance the original trilogy's.(Rambo and Die Hard are hardly exceptional trilogy's to start with, really they both sould have stopped after the first movie)
Indy 4 was the last straw for me regarding the bearded ones, I can't handle anymore Lucus c**p, as for Speilberg, Indy's last outing rates only slightly better than the god awful bottom of a barrel of s**t "War of the Worlds". Someone has lost his game, and not just recently.
Please no more...........
Lord Valumart
08-03-2008, 09:03 AM
i'd love another indy movie since i personally thought this one was awesome:up:
but it would have to be indy, not "mutt's adventures in trying to kinda do what his dad done". i'd pay to see another indiana jones no matter how old ford is aslong as it is ford and it is indy.
swifty
08-03-2008, 09:21 AM
too bad there wasn't a -10 to choose from.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-03-2008, 09:41 AM
If they do another, and it is better than KOTCS (which i liked), i'd be all for it, but Spielberg is write in wanting to take it back to the originals, no more aliens or sci-fi in an Indy movie please.
i'd love another indy movie since i personally thought this one was awesome:up:
but it would have to be indy, not "mutt's adventures in trying to kinda do what his dad done". i'd pay to see another indiana jones no matter how old ford is as long as it is ford and it is indy.
QFT :woot:
I personally didnt have an issue with how they presented the alien twist, so whatever they do (if they do another one) i'm open for, as long as Harrison is there as Indy :cwink:
I cant wait for the DVD :D
Drizzle
08-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Any word on when the dvd will come out?
October 14th
flash13
08-03-2008, 06:46 PM
October 14th
where did you here this?
Lord Blackbolt
08-03-2008, 10:19 PM
How the **** in Lucas the Future....and Spielberg is the past. He is a pompous fool. I did love Indy 4...but all the faults are Lucas'. That fatass should just let Speilberg take over the franchise
Cagefighterkip
08-03-2008, 11:00 PM
How the **** in Lucas the Future....and Spielberg is the past. He is a pompous fool. I did love Indy 4...but all the faults are Lucas'. That fatass should just let Speilberg take over the franchise
agreed
9/10
Drizzle
08-04-2008, 12:14 AM
where did you here this?
I work in a video store. Our computer listed it as October 14th. The computer's pretty reliable, because we had the Iron Man date (9/30) for about two weeks before it was officially announced.
Gotham
08-04-2008, 12:16 AM
I work in a video store. Our computer listed it as October 14th. The computer's pretty reliable, because we had the Iron Man date (9/30) for about two weeks before it was officially announced.
Pretty great date to release the DVD. Not too far away either.
Well October 14 sounds great to me, i was worried i would have to wait until december for this one :woot:
DarknessOfDeath
08-04-2008, 11:30 AM
I work in a video store. Our computer listed it as October 14th. The computer's pretty reliable, because we had the Iron Man date (9/30) for about two weeks before it was officially announced.
What about The Incredible Hulk??:bh:
Spider-Vader
08-04-2008, 12:11 PM
Yeah! I really want to see that movie.
Drizzle
08-04-2008, 12:30 PM
What about The Incredible Hulk??:bh:
We have The Incredible Hulk listed in the computer, but all it says is TBA.
But I saw that the 2003 Hulk movie is getting a Blu-ray release in September, which could possibly be in conjunction with a release for TIH.
Cagefighterkip
08-05-2008, 12:02 AM
We have The Incredible Hulk listed in the computer, but all it says is TBA.
But I saw that the 2003 Hulk movie is getting a Blu-ray release in September, which could possibly be in conjunction with a release for TIH.
back on the subject of Indy4 dvd, what kinda special features should we expect??
Well i want a lot of behind the scenes stuff and making of the effects, and all the deleted scenes :oldrazz:... i'd love an audio commentary by Harrison, Steven and George too :D
Interesting article regarding... Indy 5? http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/08/05/exclusive-indiana-jones-5-wont-center-on-shia-labeouf-george-lucas-insists/ :cwink: ... personally, i vote for Atlantis! :woot:
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Indiana Jones 5’ Won’t Center on Shia LaBeouf, Insists George Lucas
Published by Shawn Adler on Tuesday, August 5, 2008 at 2:42 pm.
This past May, two weeks before “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” opened worldwide, George Lucas told reporters at the Cannes Film Festival that he already had an idea for a possible “Indiana Jones V, and that it centered, not on Dr. Henry Jones, but on his son, Mutt Williams (Shia LaBeouf).
Three knife-flipping, tree-swinging, accident having months later and that idea? It’s kind of, well, “Nuked the Fridge,” Lucas told MTV News.
Asked whether he still considered Mutt Williams a strong enough character to drive an “Indiana Jones” film, Lucas was adamant that Indy just isn’t Indy without Indy. Or, to put it another way: No.
“Indiana Jones is Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones,” Lucas said, dismissively adding about a character he helped create that, “If it was Mutt Williams it would be ‘Mutt Williams and the Search for Elvis’ or something.”
It’s unclear what changed Lucas’s mind about the character, or whether he would necessarily return at all – even in a sidekick capacity. That said, “The Search for Elvis” is hilarious.
Of course, talk of an eventual “Indiana Jones V” is something of a giant hypothetical anyway, even as Lucas continued to stroke the fire of anticipation at his Big Rock Ranch near San Francisco, insisting that work IS being done to find a suitable object for another installment.
“We ARE looking for something for him to go after,” Lucas said. “They are very hard to find. It’s like archeology. It takes a huge amount of research to come up with something that will fit.”
So let’s give Lucas some ideas. The Fountain of Youth? The Rod of Moses? The Quest for Atlantis? What would you like to see Indy search for in a Part V? And would you want Mutt Williams to be a part of that journey? Sound off below.
Spider-Vader
08-05-2008, 09:53 PM
I want Mutt back. He was cool besides the tree swinging part.
I'm glad Jabba... I mean Lucas has changed his mind.
FOY would be cool, sort of going with the Indy is old theme. Plus Atlantis has already been done in the comics/games.
Drizzle
08-05-2008, 10:31 PM
i'd love an audio commentary by Harrison, Steven and George too :D
Spielberg doesn't do commentaries, unfortunately. :csad: Hopefully that will change soon.
Superman Prime
08-05-2008, 11:01 PM
I gave Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull a 4/10.
I thoroughly enjoyed some elements, such as the motorcycle chase scene, the addition of the sexy antagonist Irina Spalko, thought Shia's acting was "okay", and was surprised (in a good way!) at the ending with the flying saucer.
The movie had a few other action sequences worth noting. Mutt's Tarzan moment was successfully humorous. The characters having to evade the giant ants was probably the most interesting point in the movie. Finally, the sword-fight atop the speeding trucks was done quite well.
A reason I'm not rating it any higher than a 4? The movie's plot needed fleshed out badly. It seemed to all be there to get Indiana and his family together... which I don't like. I believe Indiana works best as a more stand-alone character, having the occassional woman (example James Bond), and never should have offspring, or at least not committing to raising any children.
On another negative note, the fourth installment of the Indy series is riddled with too many dull moments. The scenes in the Soviet encampment with Jones tied up had me nearly falling asleep. The second time I watched this movie, by that point, I wanted this movie to hurry up and end.
There were good parts, with new characters worth remembering (Spalko and Mutt), but it was altogether as a movie rather unmemorable.
CrimsonMist
08-05-2008, 11:39 PM
I want Mutt back. He was cool besides the tree swinging part.
I'm glad Jabba... I mean Lucas has changed his mind.
FOY would be cool, sort of going with the Indy is old theme. Plus Atlantis has already been done in the comics/games.
i haven't really been following news related to this film(but i did see it, loved it and am a fan of the series), but i recall hearing a B.S. rumor about Indy vs Cthulhu. As a Lovecraft geek, i'd actually love to see that. Cthulhu cults, the necronomicon, the island of R'lyeh. I think it could work. But that's just me.
CrimsonMist
08-05-2008, 11:41 PM
double post
cerealkiller182
08-05-2008, 11:44 PM
Maybe he started listening to fans? Maybe he doesnt feel like dealing with Shias recent antics?
Whatever the case I want Indy back and I want Mutt back but strictly in a Hero-sidekick capacity
Cagefighterkip
08-06-2008, 12:20 AM
i loved Indy4 and im dying for Indy5!
I could see a true emotional struggle going on. Marion is stricken with a life threatening illness. Indy and Mutt venture off to find some healing artifact. Along the way, the encounter some villain who strand them in the middle of nowhere in hope of finding the hope for Marion to survive. The Fountain of Youth, Atlantis, even Camelot would work with this.
Spider-Vader
08-06-2008, 03:29 AM
i haven't really been following news related to this film(but i did see it, loved it and am a fan of the series), but i recall hearing a B.S. rumor about Indy vs Cthulhu. As a Lovecraft geek, i'd actually love to see that. Cthulhu cults, the necronomicon, the island of R'lyeh. I think it could work. But that's just me.
??
I never heard of that rumor.
jimslimbo
08-06-2008, 10:24 AM
im sure many heard of the wilhelm scream. Its used in every indiana jones film and starwars. I didnt see this indiana jones yet. But i heard in a podcast, that since benn burt is tired of the wilhelm scream being used so much in other films that he decided to used a new scream. from another old movie again. They described it as being as funny as the wilhelm scream. Has anyone who has seen this movie picked up on this NEW whilhelm scream? If so where was it in the film? so i can look out for it
thanks
CrimsonMist
08-06-2008, 11:28 AM
??
I never heard of that rumor.
hmm. I read it in a newspaper article discussing all the possible story ideas for the 4th film, and it was said that Indy vs Cthulhu was some sort of rumor created by crazed fans or something.
GhostPoet
08-06-2008, 02:45 PM
I could see a true emotional struggle going on. Marion is stricken with a life threatening illness. Indy and Mutt venture off to find some healing artifact. Along the way, the encounter some villain who strand them in the middle of nowhere in hope of finding the hope for Marion to survive. The Fountain of Youth, Atlantis, even Camelot would work with this.
Actually..I really like that idea. It would make his adventure a bit more personal.
thejon93
08-06-2008, 03:18 PM
back on the subject of Indy4 dvd, what kinda special features should we expect??
Either none or the amount of features that 'Revenge of the Sith' had.
FOY would be cool, sort of going with the Indy is old theme. Plus Atlantis has already been done in the comics/games.
Well i havent read the comics or played the game, so it's new to me :oldrazz: :hehe:
8wid: those are some cool possibilities u list there :woot:
Personally, i never get enough of extra features on dvd's so for me the more the merrier :cwink:
I'm thinking some sort of real life event should take place. I thought it would be the best storyline if Jones went looking for artifacts while WWII was in full motion. Payed a lot of money by the American government to fund his searches, and the same time, spy on the Axis. Better than a spy for the OSS.
While in overseas study, Mutt Williams is taken prisoner as Fidel Castro's revolution engulfs Cuba. In attempting a mission to rescue their endangered son, a settled down Mr. and Mrs. Indiana Jones are forced to hunt for a supernatural artifact by the new Communist regime and a forgotten enemy lusting for revenge.
cerealkiller182
08-06-2008, 08:08 PM
^^^Fantastic idea, although i bet they would put Marion in Cuba and Mutt with Indy although it does sound better the other way.
Balthus Dire
08-06-2008, 08:34 PM
I'd rather see Indy with Mutt as his sidekick than Indy with a corpse--err, Marion...
protocida
08-06-2008, 10:42 PM
I Would like Indy, Marion, Mutt and Oxley working together to retreive a powerfull artifact wanted by both, the USA and the URSS, so both of them would hunt down Indy and his family. I Would also bring back Willie Scott to give some humor with her talks with Marion. Maybe a romantic interest for Mutt and a kick-ass villain. As for the artifact, i woulk like the Spear of Destiny or The Lost City of Atlantis. Maybe the Fountain of Youth or the the Book of Destiny.
I Would like Indy, Marion, Mutt and Oxley working together to retreive a powerfull artifact wanted by both, the USA and the URSS, so both of them would hunt down Indy and his family. I Would also bring back Willie Scott to give some humor with her talks with Marion. Maybe a romantic interest for Mutt and a kick-ass villain. As for the artifact, i woulk like the Spear of Destiny or The Lost City of Atlantis. Maybe the Fountain of Youth or the the Book of Destiny.
I can see using the USSR or USA competing for Indy to go after a central artifact, it would need to be the level in which U.S. Intelligence was involved with hiring Jones to go after Nazi expeditions in Tanis in Raiders. Although I think they lack a lot of strength as villains because they are so very stereotypical and unoriginal. It's like making the same bland Christmas fruit cake each year. The exception being TOD where the characterization of the enemy was a least unique.
I'm tired of bringing back older characters to please fan boys. The occasional cameo is alright, but no returns of major roles like Marion was in KOTCS. There are far too many different people repeatidly around Indy's posse. Keep who is there and just add a few people to vary things. One of the strengths of TLC was is stayed with the grassroots feel of what the first film brought.
The artifact really doesn't need to have its own meaning through its story, but a purpose for it can be applied. Like searching for the Holy Grail to save my dying grandfather or using it to keep Hitler alive. It's point is to give eternal life, the struggle for it's intended use should be the consequences of using it both ways. All should show that these supernatural objects are not meant for man to keep for itself. I would personally like to see something less known about rather than something that just stands out in Western Culture. The Kuran Treasure, Lightning of Shiba, the staff of the monkey king, perhaps Lemuria, something that the audience will learn about rather jusst know about.
Cagefighterkip
08-07-2008, 12:32 AM
man these ideas all rock...
but id love to see something where you have Indy going up against the Skull&Bones Society and they both race after some mysterious object that'd unlock Atlantis (I love the Nazis and Commies but something new like the Thugee...)
man these ideas all rock...
but id love to see something where you have Indy going up against the Skull&Bones Society and they both race after some mysterious object that'd unlock Atlantis (I love the Nazis and Commies but something new like the Thugee...)
If Atlantis wasn't already done, I would just have Jones and maybe Mutt find the entrance to the city early on, and then just be stranded there. This would allow the city to be explored more and some actual archeology can begin. If there were a third party it would probably be someone who infilitrated the expedition and contacts some larger party to sack the city. Or the survivors of Atlantis would torture them for information about the surface. Perhaps they seek a way to return to the world above because they are unable to. The city as it was in the 1990s seemed unrealistic as a futuristic city, it would be better as a lost mythical city-state.
Cagefighterkip
08-07-2008, 03:45 PM
If Atlantis wasn't already done, I would just have Jones and maybe Mutt find the entrance to the city early on, and then just be stranded there. This would allow the city to be explored more and some actual archeology can begin. If there were a third party it would probably be someone who infilitrated the expedition and contacts some larger party to sack the city. Or the survivors of Atlantis would torture them for information about the surface. Perhaps they seek a way to return to the world above because they are unable to. The city as it was in the 1990s seemed unrealistic as a futuristic city, it would be better as a lost mythical city-state.
i wouldnt mind a flat out adap of FATE OF ATLANTIS myself --
but just dont do aliens again. i dug it, but once is enuff.
Nirvana
08-07-2008, 05:34 PM
I'm glad Lucas changed his mind. :up: I would like to see Mutt return, but to have him be the central character wouldn't work in my book.
jimmylace
08-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Anyone else have the feeling that the only reason that the berg is 'more open' to a fifth is that he wants to undo the damage of the fourth?
Damage? :huh:
:hehe: Sorry, but i dont see any damage that the fourth might have caused :oldrazz:
Watch him adapt a search for Amelia Erhart's plane. Downed by some supernatural artifact the Japanese were after and the U.S. government wants.
Balthus Dire
08-07-2008, 07:52 PM
The only way I would want them to do another Indiana Jones is if it's absolutely amazing so that the saga of Indy doesn't end with the crapfest that is KOTCS.
The villains don't even have to be political foreign powers.
While on expedition, Indiana Jones and family become trapped as a smallpox epidemic consumes Peru. In trying to save his ill-stricken loved ones, a captive Jones is forced by native radicals to hunt for a mythical Incan elixir they claim will heal the infected.
Cagefighterkip
08-09-2008, 12:57 AM
The villains don't even have to be political foreign powers.
While on expedition, Indiana Jones and family become trapped as a smallpox epidemic consumes Peru. In trying to save his ill-stricken loved ones, a captive Jones is forced by native radicals to hunt for a mythical Incan elixir they claim will heal the infected.
thats a good idea --
but the elixer will have to come from someplace famous (Garden of Eden, Atlantis whereever) so it has a great (and famous) MacGufin.
Has there been any word on the DVD release of KOTCS?
CFE
BloodyWolverine
08-09-2008, 01:05 PM
I agree with Bim i mean Indy 4 did really well against Iron Man . I don;t see the chaotic damage everyone does and i for one would like to see Indy for One more Ride. Maybe he will have a brother turn up in 5 but he is Indys rival until the end. Maybe his brother could be Kevin Costner, Tom Sellack or Pierce Brosnan.
The fate of Atlantis would be a good idea, because it does tie in with Extra Terrestials and the backstory created for Indy 5. The thing is, now that they have done aliens, is it sufficient to go back to finding 'things', and would Indy even do this? I feel that whatever they do, Indy would have to have some sort of conflict about whether he wants to go back into another adventure, the stakes for him to do so would have to be pretty high now, due to the circumstances given to us by Indy 4, like marriage, a son, his age, that he has 'found what he was looking for'.
So yeah, i think it's have to be something as big as Atlantis to work. But i'd prefer Marion to stay out of it. I think she should have been saved for the final Indy film, but there we go.
Has there been any word on the DVD release of KOTCS?
CFE
First two weeks of November.
Lord Valumart
08-09-2008, 04:24 PM
it would be possibly to do indy 5 set befor KotCS...after all temple was set before raiders and then cursade was set after raiders so it's already been chopped about...
Symbiotic
08-09-2008, 05:24 PM
it would be possibly to do indy 5 set befor KotCS...after all temple was set before raiders and then cursade was set after raiders so it's already been chopped about...I'd be okay with this, but I wouldn't wanna see Mac show up.
Will the original trilogy by put on blue-ray?
Cagefighterkip
08-09-2008, 11:53 PM
I'd be okay with this, but I wouldn't wanna see Mac show up.
1956 or '55, right after Sean Connerys death, maybe the plot could be affected by Connerys death...
like another Christian object ala Ark and Grail... something Connery was after and indy finsihes the quest in his name (garden of eden, book of life, spear of destiny)
1956 or '55, right after Sean Connerys death, maybe the plot could be affected by Connerys death...
like another Christian object ala Ark and Grail... something Connery was after and indy finsihes the quest in his name (garden of eden, book of life, spear of destiny)
I would love to see something like this. Most of all I want the Garden of Eden, but I have no idea how it would possible to even find it.
Pluto
08-10-2008, 12:26 AM
Ditch the woman villian (sucky and easy challenge for Ford) and ditch the goofy kid put in a much harder villian and you would have had a ten.
Unfortunately we got a 7.
spideyboy_1111
08-10-2008, 07:03 AM
I would love to see something like this. Most of all I want the Garden of Eden, but I have no idea how it would possible to even find it.
Actually, I saw a Discovery Channel show where they claimed to have found the location of the Garden of Eden in northern Iran. Archaeologists gathered all the information they could from ancient Scripture, and traced back the path through the seven "gates" (actually mountain passes). They eventually arrived in an isolated valley which was indeed remarkably lush 6000 years ago (though it now contains a large Iranian city so most of the nature has been ravaged).
Lord Valumart
08-10-2008, 09:03 AM
1956 or '55, right after Sean Connerys death, maybe the plot could be affected by Connerys death...
like another Christian object ala Ark and Grail... something Connery was after and indy finsihes the quest in his name (garden of eden, book of life, spear of destiny)
spear of destiny was done in the comics...
i dunno why but i'd rather they stay away from things done in the comics just so it allows the indiana jones universe to have more stuff going on than just the movies...
Cagefighterkip
08-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Actually, I saw a Discovery Channel show where they claimed to have found the location of the Garden of Eden in northern Iran. Archaeologists gathered all the information they could from ancient Scripture, and traced back the path through the seven "gates" (actually mountain passes). They eventually arrived in an isolated valley which was indeed remarkably lush 6000 years ago (though it now contains a large Iranian city so most of the nature has been ravaged).
whoah
really? well biblically we'd never get in -- according to the bible theres an angel (i think archangel gabriel or michael or something) is guarding it from anyone ever getting inside.
Cagefighterkip
08-10-2008, 12:09 PM
spear of destiny was done in the comics...
i dunno why but i'd rather they stay away from things done in the comics just so it allows the indiana jones universe to have more stuff going on than just the movies...
agreed-
i didnt realize they did the spear in the comics. but still something christian like ROTLA or TLC would be good now...
spideyboy_1111
08-11-2008, 03:51 AM
whoah
really? well biblically we'd never get in -- according to the bible theres an angel (i think archangel gabriel or michael or something) is guarding it from anyone ever getting inside.
well it's where its "believed" to be.... and metaphorically we can't go back to Eden, the whole valley where it (should be) was paved over and buildings built on it. So yeah, we really can't go back.
GhostPoet
08-11-2008, 02:58 PM
So, has there been any official news on if they'll make another? Or is it still just "Well, i'm considering the idea...but we'll see..."
It's not like Ford is getting any younger here...they are on a tight time limit. :P
(oh and I loved Crystal Skull)
I SEE SPIDEY
08-11-2008, 03:43 PM
Oh dear lord. Please Mr. Lucas don't make anymore Indy movies, the 4th one was mediocre enough.
So, has there been any official news on if they'll make another? Or is it still just "Well, i'm considering the idea...but we'll see..."
It's not like Ford is getting any younger here...they are on a tight time limit. :P
(oh and I loved Crystal Skull)
Nope, nothing official has been announced... it's all hints and speculations at this point :hehe:
I just noticed that BOM updated its figures on Indy 4:
Domestic Total = $314,746,000
Foreign Total = $461,442,123
Worldwide Total = $776,188,123
Not bad at all! :indy:
Cagefighterkip
08-11-2008, 06:30 PM
Nope, nothing official has been announced... it's all hints and speculations at this point :hehe:
I just noticed that BOM updated its figures on Indy 4:
Domestic Total = $314,746,000
Foreign Total = $461,442,123
Worldwide Total = $776,188,123
Not bad at all! :indy:
whoah
them foreigners love them some indy!
cerealkiller182
08-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Considering Domestic vs Foreign is (i assume) 1 country vs everyone else the numbers are kinda unimpressive.
I know foreign doesnt mean every country but its got to be more than 1 anyway right?
Cagefighterkip
08-11-2008, 08:15 PM
Considering Domestic vs Foreign is (i assume) 1 country vs everyone else the numbers are kinda unimpressive.
I know foreign doesnt mean every country but its got to be more than 1 anyway right?
true -
but still. indy4 is what? the 2nd biggest movie of the year right, under TDK?
true -
but still. indy4 is what? the 2nd biggest movie of the year right, under TDK?
The year isn't over yet. Don't underestimate the massive numbers, foreign or domestic, guaranteed by a Harry Potter movie or James Bond movie.
spideyboy_1111
08-11-2008, 08:52 PM
eh i dont think bond can compete with indy, harry,dark night, and ironman personally.... but Harry is def a big contender. now that were leading into the "home stretch" of the series. And arguably i think star wars: clone wars, could be possibly pretty big too.
thejon93
08-11-2008, 09:00 PM
eh i dont think bond can compete with indy, harry,dark night, and ironman personally.... but Harry is def a big contender. now that were leading into the "home stretch" of the series. And arguably i think star wars: clone wars, could be possibly pretty big too.
I doubt it, unless it was being held by Pixar under a different name, I don't see it getting "pretty big" numbers in the box-office. I'm guessing it'll end up with $100M domestically, $160-200M worldwide, maybe less. I only see hardcore 'Star Wars' fans seeing this one... not 'Star Wars' fans in general(pretty much fans of the show, which I believe there aren't many).
spideyboy_1111
08-11-2008, 09:37 PM
umm there are several fans of the show.. and i think alot of fans of the new trilogy will see it.
Cagefighterkip
08-11-2008, 10:30 PM
The year isn't over yet. Don't underestimate the massive numbers, foreign or domestic, guaranteed by a Harry Potter movie or James Bond movie.
by the years over if it isnt #2 anymore itll still be on the top 5 mark my words
Balthus Dire
08-12-2008, 01:04 AM
eh i dont think bond can compete with indy, harry,dark night, and ironman personally.... but Harry is def a big contender. now that were leading into the "home stretch" of the series. And arguably i think star wars: clone wars, could be possibly pretty big too.
Bond will be bigger than you think.
Cagefighterkip
08-12-2008, 01:27 AM
bond is gonna be big cuz its gonna be good.
though i dont know what difference that makes all four brosnans did good and were lousy and both daltons did well and were lousy and Never Say Never Again did reasonably well if i got it right and that was lousy.
spideyboy_1111
08-12-2008, 01:28 AM
Bond will be bigger than you think.
i doubt it. It by no means will flop, but it wont be as big as the ones i mentioned.
Balthus Dire
08-12-2008, 12:35 PM
i doubt it. It by no means will flop, but it wont be as big as the ones i mentioned.
We'll see.
Kal-El 8
08-12-2008, 12:58 PM
Indiana Jones Hits DVD and Blu-ray Oct. 14
Source: Paramount Home Entertainment
August 12, 2008
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Paramount Home Entertainment has announced that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665) will hit DVD and Blu-ray Disc on October 14. Here is the full press release:
The highest-grossing installment of the phenomenally popular adventure franchise, with more than $770 million at the global box office, Paramount Pictures and Lucasfilm Ltd.'s Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will make its highly anticipated debut on DVD and Blu-ray October 14.
Released by Lucasfilm Ltd. and Paramount Home Entertainment, the film will be available as a two-disc Special Edition DVD and Blu-ray loaded with spectacular bonus features that allow viewers to accompany the filmmakers and cast on a fascinating journey behind-the-scenes of this modern classic.
Directed by Steven Spielberg and produced by Frank Marshall, with George Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy as executive producers, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the newest adventure in the phenomenally successful INDIANA JONES series, which has earned six Academy Awards® and over $2 billion worldwide.
Set in 1957, the film stars Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett, Karen Allen, Shia LaBeouf, Ray Winstone and John Hurt, following Indy on a perilous adventure to find the coveted Crystal Skull of Akator. From the ivy-covered halls of Marshall College to the verdant jungles of South America, Indy is relentlessly pursued by sinister Soviet agents who will stop at nothing to get their hands on the eerie object of fascination.
The two-disc Special Edition DVD and Blu-ray presentations feature hours of new content that opens up the world of Indiana Jones as never before through in-depth footage of Steven Spielberg and his cast and crew at work. From Shia LaBeouf's training to become a master swordsman to Harrison Ford's reunion with his fedora, whip...and Karen Allen as Marion Ravenwood, viewers will play witness to the magic of cinema's greatest action-adventure hero's triumphant return to the big screen, as well as the of the extraordinary work of legendary artists who brought Indy's latest thrilling adventure to life.
In addition, all four INDIANA JONES films will be showcased in the quintessential Indiana Jones collection entitled The Complete Adventure Collection, which will include the first three films plus the two-disc Special Edition DVD of the latest installment. This will retail at $89.99. DVD
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 TVs with THX Certified Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround and English, French and Spanish subtitles. The two-disc set includes the following special features:
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: 1-Disc ($29.99)
• The Return of a Legend — The evolution of the new film and a tribute to the legendary hero
• Pre-Production— Follows Steven Spielberg as he creates animatic sequences, Shia LaBeouf as he learns to swordfight and captures the reunion of filmmakers and cast on the soundstage.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: 2-Disc Special Edition ($39.99)
Disc One
• The Return of a Legend—The evolution of the new film and a tribute to the legendary hero and his creators.
• Pre-Production—Follows Steven Spielberg as he creates animatic sequences, Shia LaBeouf as he learns to swordfight and captures the reunion of filmmakers and cast on the soundstage.
Disc Two
• Production Diary: Making Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
- Shooting Begins: New Mexico
- Back To School: New Haven, Connecticut
- Welcome to the Jungle: Hilo, Hawaii
- On-Set Action
- Exploring Akator
- Wrapping Up!
• Warrior Makeup
• The Crystal Skulls
• Iconic Props
• The Effects of Indy
• Adventures in Post Production
• Closing: Team Indy
• Pre-Visualization Sequences
- Area 51 Escape
- Jungle Chase
- Ants Attack
• Galleries
• The Art Department
- The Adventure Begins
- Cemetery and Jungle
- Akator
• Stan Winston Studio
- Corpses, Skeletons & Mummies
- Aliens & Crystal Skulls
• Production Photographs
• Portraits
• Behind-the-Scenes Photographs
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Blu-ray ($39.99)
Disc One
• Indiana Jones Timelines
- Story Timeline: Showcases the key events of the “Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” storyline.
- Production Timeline: A Making-of chronology for “Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”.
- Historical Timeline: Dives into the real-world historical influences
• The Return of a Legend
• Pre-Production
Disc 2:
• Production Diary:
- Shooting Begins: New Mexico (HD)
- Back To School: New Haven, Connecticut (HD)
- Welcome to the Jungle: Hilo, Hawaii (HD)
- On-Set Action (HD)
- Exploring Akator (HD)
- Wrapping Up! (HD)
• Warrior Makeup (HD)
• The Crystal Skulls (HD)
• Iconic Props (HD)
• The Effects of Indy (HD)
• Adventures in Post Production (HD)
• Closing: Team Indy (HD)
• Pre-Visualization Sequences
- Area 51 Escape (HD)
- Jungle Chase (HD)
- Ants Attack (HD)
• Galleries
• The Art Department
- The Adventure Begins
- Cemetery and Jungle
- Akator
• Stan Winston Studio
- Corpses, Skeletons & Mummies
- Aliens & Crystal Skulls
• Production Photographs
• Portraits
• Behind-the-Scenes Photographs
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a running time of 122 minutes and an MPAA rating of PG-13 for adventure violence and scary images and is rated PG in Canada for violence and frightening scenes.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47909
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...tal-skull.html (http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull.html)
We do :up:
Indeed :woot:
Yay! thanks for that dvd info, Kal-El ... i cant wait for this one :yay: i need to have an Indy marathon :cwink:
Gotham
08-12-2008, 01:10 PM
October 14th is now marked on the calendar. :oldrazz:
Rezzo
08-12-2008, 01:49 PM
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DarknessOfDeath
08-12-2008, 01:52 PM
Great find.
By the way, my indiana jones fedora hat came through the mail and I thought I was never going to get it cause I waited so long. hehe
Gotham
08-12-2008, 01:55 PM
Spectacular images, Rezzo!
Drizzle
08-12-2008, 02:26 PM
I told you guys it was coming on the 14th.
Nice find! :woot:
Yeah Drizzle you did, but now we see some of the goodies coming on the dvd :cwink: wich gets us even more excited :hehe:
Lord Valumart
08-12-2008, 02:44 PM
you know...i'll never watch the disc of special features but i shall own that two disc edition...oh yes...i shall...
Symbiotic
08-12-2008, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't mind having that 2-Disc Blu-Ray.:word:
The Apatow Crew
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
I'll have to see this then when it comes out.
Commodore Schmidlapp
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
I'll probably pick it up to complete the series
you know...i'll never watch the disc of special features but i shall own that two disc edition...oh yes...i shall...
You wont? that's usually the first thing i watch whenever i buy dvd's. I love watching how movies get made :oldrazz:
I dont have a blu-ray player, but i'm definetly going for the 2 disc dvd version :woot:
Drizzle
08-12-2008, 03:01 PM
I'll have to see this then when it comes out.
You missed it in theaters?
The Apatow Crew
08-12-2008, 03:06 PM
You missed it in theaters?Yes I did.
I was low on funds at the time.
Nirvana
08-12-2008, 03:37 PM
I like the cover. :up:
I'll definitely be picking this up. Not sure if I should buy all four films in the "Adventure Collection" or just buy them individually. Definitely want to buy the first three again (I have the original trilogy box set).
mclay18
08-12-2008, 10:08 PM
The single-disc will be mine. Oh yeah. :D
Cagefighterkip
08-12-2008, 11:15 PM
DVD is lookin awesome --
cant wait for my BDay for the gift cards to flow in lol
spideyboy_1111
08-14-2008, 04:16 AM
i just found this original script idea for Indy 4... "indy and the saucer men from mars" that was written 5 years ago, as much as i loved indy marrying Marion, i think this would have been alot more fun.
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2007/04/wedding-of-indiana-jones.html
In January, 2002, Spielberg told us, “Kate is in it.” A few months later in April, Lucas confessed, "There is a scene where a lot of Indy's ex-girlfriends show up, but they are not major characters." Even Ford said with a wink: "It's probably going to be the best scene in the movie." That was five years ago. However, we might have the faintest clue as to which scene they may be referring. This may have sprung from Jeb Stuart’s script, Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars. (Or perhaps the idea first germinated in Jeffrey Boam’s script and brought to light through Stuart’s draft.) In any case, Indy gets married. There is a plot twist during the wedding. And what follows is a scene at a bar with Indy, Willie, and Marion, which I think would have been (and could still be) loved and embraced by all.
So I’d like to share with you that sequence, the wedding of Indiana Jones from Jeb Stuart's script.
Let me set this up. Indy’s with Dr. Elaine McGregor, a linguist from Princeton, who’s engaged to be married to Benny. She is FEISTY and just as maniacal about hunting for artifacts as he is. And after going through a big adventure with her on an excavation site in Borneo, southeast Asia, he makes a rash decision while standing with her on the deck of a PT boat…
Indy pulls her close.
INDY
Dr. McGregor...
ELAINE
Yes, Dr. Jones...
INDY
Will you marry me?
ELAINE
Yes.
She kisses him.
INDY
What will Benny say?
ELAINE
Benny is a wonderful, intelligent
man... he'll think of something.
They kiss again.
INT. BRIDES CHAMBER - DAY
THREE BEAUTIFUL BRIDESMAIDS primp in front of a mirror.
BRIDESMAID #1
In the jungle...
BRIDESMAID #2
How romantic...
BRIDESMAID #3
Maybe I should go to the jungle...
HELEN MCGREGOR, 50s, a beautiful well-bred woman, arranges the shoulders of a wedding gown and looks into the mirror at ELAINE who’s radiant in her wedding dress. Calm, beautiful, excited. She notices her mother crying.
ELAINE
Mom, what's wrong?
HELEN
When we bought this dress, I
thought you were going to marry
Benny...
ELAINE
Oh, mother, when you get to know
Indy, you'll see, I made the right
choice. He can do anything...
INT. GROOM'S CHAMBERS - DAY
Indy, completely frustrated, struggles with his tie and an OLDER PAIR OF HANDS takes over... HENRY JONES, SR.
HENRY JONES
I'd known your mother for three
years before we got married.
INDY
What's your point, Dad?
HENRY JONES
My point is: What do you know about
this girl? Who are her parents?
What schools did they go to?
INDY
I don' t know and it doesn’t matter.
I love her.
Henry finishes Indy's tie and looks at him. For a moment he softens.
HENRY JONES
Your mother would have liked to
have been here, Junior... She would
have told you something, if she was.
INDY
What?
HENRY JONES
Don't blow it.
INDY
Thanks, dad. I'll try to remember that.
The door opens and Elaine pokes her head inside.
ELAINE
Knock, knock... may I come in?
Elaine enters, radiant beyond words. Henry Jones is speechless.
INDY
You look...fabulous.
ELAINE
I'm sorry. Am I interrupting something?
INDY
No. Dad was just leaving...
HENRY
Isn't it bad luck for the bride to
be seen by the groom before the
wedding?
ELAINE
I'm not superstitious...are you?
She gives him a wink and a kiss on the cheek completely enchanting him.
HENRY
Me, superstitious?
(to Indy)
I'll just... meet you in the
church.
He leaves. When the door is closed, Indy pulls her close.
ELAINE
I just wanted to tell you... This
is the most wonderful day of my
life and I love you, more than
anything.
INDY
Anything?
ELAINE
Anything.
She kisses him when there is a knock on the door and Bridesmaid #1 sticks her head in the room.
BRIDESMAID
Elaine...It's time...
INT. CHURCH - DAY
As the organ plays the guest begin to enter. We see WILLIE and MARION, led to their seats by SHORT ROUND and SALLAH, the ushers.
MARION
I can't believe he actually found
someone who would say "yes."
WILLIE
I know.
SALLAH
You mean other than yourselves?
Marion and Willie gives him a look. While the bride's side of the church has a very proper contingent of guests, Indy’s side tells a different story...a wilder more worldly group of guests from all points of the globe.
ANGLE FRONT OF CHAPEL
Henry and Indy step out with the MINISTER and look back at the front as the bridesmaids begin to enter the chapel. Henry smiles at each of them.
HENRY
(whisper, to Indy)
It's a shame Marcus isn't alive to
be here... he loved beautiful women.
INT. NARTHEX - DAY
As the rear of the chapel we see Elaine putting the finishing touches on her veil...Her FATHER (FRED MCGREGOR) kisses her, pats her hand... Everything is perfect.
EXT. CHAPEL - DAY
Outside the church a dark sedan pulls up and a HANDSOME MAN, early forties, climbs out. He hears the strains of the WEDDING MARCH and hurries to the chapel.
INT. CHAPEL - DAY
As the last of the bridesmaids takes her place, Indy prepares for Elaine's entrance...
ON ELAINE
she and her father start toward the door when suddenly the rear door opens and the man enters. Elaine turns her head, sees him and her smile disappears...
ON INDY AND HENRY
from their viewpoint they can see Elaine and the man.
THE ORGANIST
continues her playing, but Elaine doesn't enter...
ON INDY AND HENRY
watching Elaine and the man.
HENRY
This is unusual. An old friend?
Indy clearly doesn't recognize the man.
INDY
I don't know.
HENRY
See, these are the things a long
engagement would point out.
INDY
Dad, you're getting wound up on
nothing.
They continue to watch. Elaine and the man talk quietly but with animated gestures.
HENRY
Does that look like nothing to you?
Elaine clearly appears to be telling him she's about to get married. The man is very serious.
THE GUESTS
guests begin to shift worriedly.
HENRY
Perhaps you should go find out
what's going on...
INDY
Dad, I'm sure it's okay.
He looks up and Elaine's father is motioning to Indy from the rear. Elaine is nowhere to be seen.
FRED MCGREGOR
She's gone!
HENRY
I knew you should have found out
more about her.
Indy rushes up the aisle to Elaine's father.
INDY
What do you mean she's gone?
FRED MCGREGOR
He took her!
Indy rushes out the door.
EXT. PRINCETON CHAPEL - DAY
...where the black sedan roars off. Indy looks around, spots the wedding car with “JUST MARRIED” soaped on the windows and cans hanging off the back...The DRIVER waits beside the car.
Indy brushes the driver out of the way and climbs in behind the wheel.
EXT. PRINCETON STREETS - DAY
Indy accelerates through traffic in the sleepy college town, CANS BANGING after him. He closes-in on the black sedan.
The two cars cut back and forth in and out of traffic. It is clear that the driver of the black sedan has no intention of allowing Indy to catch up.
INT. INDY'S CAR - DAY
Indy pulls out to pass, when a truck suddenly backs out in front of him. He slams on the brakes and cuts the wheel, sending the wedding car...
EXT. CAMPUS - DAY
...roaring across campus. Indy cuts down sidewalks and over lawns...all the time keeping the black sedan in sight until he blasts through a hedge onto
FOOTBALL PRACTICE FIELDS
The football team scatters in front of the wedding car.
INDY
cuts hard again to avoid the band and cheerleaders who dive for cover.
THE WEDDING CAR
roars down an embankment onto a lower field where homecoming floats are being prepared.
INDY
sees the floats too late and
CRASHES
through the tallest one, taking half the chicken wire and crepe paper with him through a fence and swerving to avoid students stacking...
TWO STORIES OF WOOD FOR THE HOMECOMING BONFIRE
The car clips the bottom corner and the entire stack wobbles, then collapses as students leap to the ground and
INDY'S CAR
bursts through a picket fence and back onto...
CAMPUS STREET
...and coming out just behind the black sedan!
Indy floors it, moving closer...fender to fender. The man holds a look with Indy, then veers the black sedan into Indy's car, causing him to slam on the brakes and crash into a yard as the black sedan disappears...
AROUND THE CORNER
...and runs up a ramp, disappearing inside a tractor trailer truck.
TWO MEN
dressed as movers, fold up the ramp and close the doors of the trailer revealing the name: CAMPUS MOVERS.
INDY'S CAR
pulls out of the yard and roars around the corner to find the sedan gone. His car roars past the truck as the men climb into the cab and drive off.
Indy stops the car. The road ahead is empty. The black sedan has vanished. He climbs out and looks around but Elaine has vanished. Behind him the moving van pulls away.
EXT. CHAPEL - LATER
Indy returns to the chapel where the confused guests are milling about.
Henry consoles Elaine's mother.
Sallah and Short-Round are as confused as everyone else, though most of the guests have given-up on the wedding.
Indy moves quickly to Elaine’s father.
INDY
Was that Benny?
FRED MCGREGOR
No.
HENRY
Benny?
HELEN MCGREGOR
(wails)
No. Benny would never have done
something like that.
HENRY
Will someone tell me who's Benny?
HELEN MCGREGOR
Our daughter's fiance.
Henry looks at Indy, stunned.
INDY
Before me, dad.
(to Elaine's father)
Have you ever seen him before?
FRED MCGREGOR
Once. At her office... about a year
ago. This is terrible...
INDY
Have you called the police and
report a kidnapping?
FRED MCGREGOR
No.
INDY
Why not?
FRED MCGREGOR
Because he didn't kidnap her.
INDY AN HENRY
What?
FRED MCGREGOR
She went with him.
Indy looks as if he's been punched in the stomach. Henry leaves Indy and goes to Fred, wrapping a sympathetic arm around him.
HENRY
Are you a golfing man, Fred?...
I've always found that in extreme
cases like this, it's best to go
play a round of golf...
The two men move off together leaving Indy with his misery.
Sallah comes to console his friend.
SALLAH
Indy... It is a terrible thing when
a woman deserts the man who loves
her... If there is anything I can
do...
INDY
Thanks, Sallah...
INT. CHAPEL - DAY
Indy wanders back into the church. He takes off his buttoner and tosses the flower. A WOMAN'S VOICE behind him brings him out of his thoughts...
MARION (V.O.)
I've always found that in times
like this, it's always better to go
and have a drink.
Indy sees Marion sitting in a pew.
INDY
No thanks, Marion.
Willie Scott joins her.
WILLIE
Oh, Indy... I'm so sorry. What you
need right now is a little womanly
comfort.
INT. BAR - NIGHT
Indy drowns his sorrows in a drink, surrounded on either side by Willie and Marion.
INDY
How could this have happened to me?
I mean, I’m the catch of the
century...
WILLIE
Oh, honey, I know. My heart breaks
for you.
MARION
It's her loss, Indy... Though, it's
true, you've never had good timing
with women...
INDY
Good timing?
MARION
Remember the time in the desert you
left me tied up...
WILLIE
Or the time you left me all alone
in that palace just so you could go
explore some tunnel...
INDY
Well, the least she could've done
is tell me.
WILLIE
(to Marion)
He isn't the easiest person to talk
to, either.
MARION
I know, and when he sleeps he does
this little thing when he
breathes...
WILLIE
(remembering)
...like this!...
They both emulate Indy sleeping and burst into fits of laughter.
INDY
You are wonderful company.
WILLIE
Oh, Indy, really... When it comes
to women, you are so naive. Did it
ever occur to you that you know
very little about this person?
INDY
That's not true...
MARION
What are her favorite foods?
WILLIE
What is her favorite dress?
MARION
He's probably not seen her in
anything but khakis.
Indy starts to protest, then realizes they have a point. He looks lower than ever.
WILLIE
Oh. Indy, don't look so sad, she
probably just got cold feet.
Willie and Marion exchange a look, remembering...
WILLIE AND MARION
(together)
Cold feet!
They burst into laughter again.
Well i think it made more sense for him to marry Marion and not some random woman we havent met before.
Dr. Watson
08-14-2008, 12:10 PM
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This one is great! Can't wait to get it.
Cagefighterkip
08-14-2008, 12:12 PM
cant wait for DVD 2Disc edition :)
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Cool. Can't wait to get it. :indy:
Cagefighterkip
08-14-2008, 12:46 PM
dvdactive.net has the alternate covers and the backs of the DVD artwork...
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull.html
The Chris
08-14-2008, 01:23 PM
Finally great posters are actually used for the DVDs. Great.
dvdactive.net has the alternate covers and the backs of the DVD artwork...
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull.html
Niceee tnx for posting! :woot:
Anyone know if there were any deleted scenes? i dont see any deleted scenes feature :huh:
spideyboy_1111
08-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Well i think it made more sense for him to marry Marion and not some random woman we havent met before.
eh... i dont see what the big deal is... Elsa, Willie and Marion we met the same way. I honestly don't think anyone would gripe. New movie, new girl. plus from the looks of the script, he didn't quite marry her either.
RonStoppablefan
08-14-2008, 08:44 PM
That's a great DVD cover. I'll be buying it.
Drizzle
08-14-2008, 09:02 PM
eh... i dont see what the big deal is... Elsa, Willie and Marion we met the same way. I honestly don't think anyone would gripe. New movie, new girl. plus from the looks of the script, he didn't quite marry her either.
But you're forgetting that Indy and Marion had history in the past prior to "Raiders".
spideyboy_1111
08-14-2008, 09:27 PM
But you're forgetting that Indy and Marion had history in the past prior to "Raiders".
so, we just met her, i dont think people got that upset that she wasnt in TOD, or RotLA
cerealkiller182
08-14-2008, 11:29 PM
Wait? how is it Indy didnt REALLY marry Marion? Im pretty sure I saw excahnge of vows and then the kiss the bride to seal the deal.
Cagefighterkip
08-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Niceee tnx for posting! :woot:
Anyone know if there were any deleted scenes? i dont see any deleted scenes feature :huh:
i didnt see any so i doubt it...
i wonder if there were any.
Spider-Vader
08-15-2008, 12:29 AM
I can't wait but $40 for the 2-disc? I haven't bought a DVD since Spider-Man 3 (the Target 3-Disc version which cost around 20 bucks) but is this how much all 2-discers will cost?
Drizzle
08-15-2008, 12:41 AM
I can't wait but $40 for the 2-disc? I haven't bought a DVD since Spider-Man 3 (the Target 3-Disc version which cost around 20 bucks) but is this how much all 2-discers will cost?
It's just the studio's suggested retail price. No stores ever actually follow that.
Wait? how is it Indy didnt REALLY marry Marion? Im pretty sure I saw excahnge of vows and then the kiss the bride to seal the deal.
I was about to say the same thing... of course he married Marion!
spideyboy_1111
08-15-2008, 06:43 PM
Wait? how is it Indy didnt REALLY marry Marion? Im pretty sure I saw excahnge of vows and then the kiss the bride to seal the deal.
we're talking about an alternate script ;) read more then a post next time :cwink:
Balthus Dire
08-15-2008, 07:01 PM
Maybe it's just me, but that Indy/Marion/Willy scene was retarded and I'm so glad they didn't go that route.
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