Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[ginny_weasley]

That looks so photoshopped. Can't be real.

That's what we all said about the set picture of the Jean/Scott headstones....

[Pizzaboy1138]

The writers took it from the set and dropped it from a plane.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Someone spotted this in Forvik, Norway.:eek: :confused:

From storenorske (Taken on May 30):

http://static.flickr.com/46/156296452_70a76878e7.jpg
Took this photo outside the church in Forvik. Strange isn`t it?


Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19795997@N00/156296452/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19795997@N00/156296452/)

Hmmm ... What does this mean?

[LEX]

What, did some Norwegian X-fan steal it from the X3 set or what?

[Cyke82]

That looks so photoshopped. Can't be real.

I agree, that looks massively Photoshopped.

[Bastila]

Whats it doing in Norway?

[Retroman]

I sent a message to him to ask.

[Bastila]

It can't be real?

[Retroman]

It can't be real?
Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't?We'll see...

[N_z0]

):http://static.flickr.com/46/156296452_70a76878e7.jpg


http://images5.theimagehosting.com/tombstones9op.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

I don't think it's the same one. The X logo looks slightly larger on the collapsed one, other than the fact that the tombstone is of a different shape.

Anyways, don't know if this has been posted (probably has) but here's a quote from James describing some of his favorite movies:

Jaws. The Exorcist. I can't turn off The Godfather when it's on television. More recently, In America was very moving—wonderful movie—the acting is superb. I love Bambi. That movie is an exercise in restraint. The pauses—the time allowed for a moment to bring you in, instead of moments being thrown at you—it doesn't have to fill every empty space with a funny line or an explosion or with this drive to keep the attention. It's like: this is drawing me in. I watch these old films where the pace wasn't super-fast and there weren't 18 angles to cut away in order to see a car flipping over. There's a car wreck scene in Vanilla Sky—which I think was shot brilliantly—where the car careens off the edge, goes into a dry riverbed, and smashes into the wall. It's a straightforward, master wide-angle shot of a big car falling off a bridge, not spectacularly with flips and turns and hubcaps flying at the camera lens, smashing into a wall. It made me jump out of my seat, because it was like standing there watching a car hit a wall—for real—as opposed to jumping around to eight different points of view which you could never really perceive. I like filmmakers who use restraint and allow moments to breathe.

Hmmmmmm...

[WorthyStevens]

I don't know if anyone caught this the first time I posted it...

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Up for auction today is a rare find indeed. I guarantee you WILL not see another jacket like this on ebay, or anywhere else for that matter. (Unless they auction off wardrobe from the movie) This is an exact replica of the jacket worn in X-Men 3 by Cyclops (James Marsden). I have gathered as many pictures as I could from production stills, to behind the scenes photos, and pictures from fan websites. I selected the leather myself (after a long search), it is a faded, distressed looking black cowhide leather of medium thickness. I could not find suitable leathers for the stripes so I distressed them myself by hand. The red looks bright in the pictures, but it IS nicely weathered. The off white stripe color looks nicely antique. Everything is accurate on this jacket, the SLEEVE ZIPPERS, the collar, and the chest pocket. I also had the seamstress add an inside pocket on the left side. The liner is a satin black, with a dull shine. I even got the 1/2 stitch along the bottom of the jacket, and the 1/4" seam along the cuff of the sleeves.

The jacket itself is a cafe racer style, its a form fitting jacket, a size 42-44 chest, basically a large. It may look loose on the mannequin, this is because the mannequin is a chest size 36-38. The jacket is brand new, never worn. Feel free to email any questions, Ill get back to you within a day most of the time. GOOD LUCK!!

Postal money orders, and cash accepted. Paypal is accepted but 3% will be added for the outrageous fees paypal has now. Shipping outside US is no problem, but it will cost a bit more. Thank you!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cyclops-Leather-Jacket-X-Men-3-Last-Stand-wolverine_W0QQitemZ7623702468QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60 346QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[DarknessOfDeath]

yeah. its been posted before.

[TheVileOne]

The reason this movie has no box office legs and is doing so horribly in its second weekend,

CYCLOPS FANS STICKING IT TO FOX.

[The Kid]

Hi vile. long live the cyclops.

Quick question. Why didn't he consult the professor about hearing jean in his head?

[LadyVader]

The Professor would've probably told him he's imagining things.

[Vilya]

[quote=WorthyStevens4]I don't know if anyone caught this the first time I posted it...


Nice jacket, looks almost a exact replica :up:. The one scott wore is a vintage one i think cos the leather is very seasoned.

[Quidam]

The reason this movie has no box office legs and is doing so horribly in its second weekend,

CYCLOPS FANS STICKING IT TO FOX.


I don't think it's necessarily the Cyke fans sticking it to Fox. Imo, the movie just wasn't impressive enough (storyline, characters, plot) to spend money on viewing it again.

[The Kid]

The Professor would've probably told him he's imagining things.

gah, what a jerk. :O

[Bishop2]

Hi vile. long live the cyclops.

Quick question. Why didn't he consult the professor about hearing jean in his head?

He probably just assumed he was obsessed with her and losing his mind because he lost the love of his life.

[Bastila]

I love that scean in his room i'm like somone give him a hug lol. Its sad but i love the fact that Jeans in his head, did anyone notice the pciture of her in his room?

I really do love his jacket he wears.

[ginny_weasley]

The Professor would've probably told him he's imagining things.

:up:

I missed the picture of Jean though! What did it look like? Someone's gotta find a screenshot!

[cyke93]

I don't know if anyone caught this the first time I posted it...

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/5562/3d17ly.jpghttp://img285.imageshack.us/img285/6982/7a13pl.jpg
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http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/2635/b516it.jpg




Up for auction today is a rare find indeed. I guarantee you WILL not see another jacket like this on ebay, or anywhere else for that matter. (Unless they auction off wardrobe from the movie) This is an exact replica of the jacket worn in X-Men 3 by Cyclops (James Marsden). I have gathered as many pictures as I could from production stills, to behind the scenes photos, and pictures from fan websites. I selected the leather myself (after a long search), it is a faded, distressed looking black cowhide leather of medium thickness. I could not find suitable leathers for the stripes so I distressed them myself by hand. The red looks bright in the pictures, but it IS nicely weathered. The off white stripe color looks nicely antique. Everything is accurate on this jacket, the SLEEVE ZIPPERS, the collar, and the chest pocket. I also had the seamstress add an inside pocket on the left side. The liner is a satin black, with a dull shine. I even got the 1/2 stitch along the bottom of the jacket, and the 1/4" seam along the cuff of the sleeves.

The jacket itself is a cafe racer style, its a form fitting jacket, a size 42-44 chest, basically a large. It may look loose on the mannequin, this is because the mannequin is a chest size 36-38. The jacket is brand new, never worn. Feel free to email any questions, Ill get back to you within a day most of the time. GOOD LUCK!!

Postal money orders, and cash accepted. Paypal is accepted but 3% will be added for the outrageous fees paypal has now. Shipping outside US is no problem, but it will cost a bit more. Thank you!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cyclops-Leather-Jacket-X-Men-3-Last-Stand-wolverine_W0QQitemZ7623702468QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60 346QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



i need it in a smaller size hehehe

[strugler]

in an unrelated story the writers of xmen comics are apparently getting influenced by cyclops fate in the movie aso they are killing him in the new phonix warsong miniseries (sequel to the great phoenix endsong mini series)
pic below :(
:(
http://comics.ign.com/articles/711/711055p1.html

[Obsidian]

in an unrelated story the writers of xmen comics are apparently getting influenced by cyclops fate in the movie aso they are killing him in the new phonix warsong miniseries (sequel to the great phoenix endsong mini series)
pic below :(
:(
http://comics.ign.com/articles/711/711055p1.html

:down

[Bastila]

:up:

I missed the picture of Jean though! What did it look like? Someone's gotta find a screenshot!

It looked like in X2, you know at the start shes in that dark top its a picture like that.

[Bishop2]

in an unrelated story the writers of xmen comics are apparently getting influenced by cyclops fate in the movie aso they are killing him in the new phonix warsong miniseries (sequel to the great phoenix endsong mini series)
pic below :(
:(
http://comics.ign.com/articles/711/711055p1.html

I bet that page showing Cyke's death is a fakeout/dream sequence. Otherwise they wouldn't have shown it in the preview pages.

[ginny_weasley]

It looked like in X2, you know at the start shes in that dark top its a picture like that.
Cool, thanks :up:

[Charlie No-One]

That picture is a dream sequence because Kitty and Peter die in the next panel.

[Bishop2]

That picture is a dream sequence because Kitty and Peter die in the next panel.

All I see is Peter getting mildly singed and Kitty crying.

[Charlie No-One]

All I see is Peter getting mildly singed and Kitty crying.

It was said by another poster in another thread on this in the Marvel Forum.

[Kurosawa]

That picture is a dream sequence because Kitty and Peter die in the next panel.

I think they're just upset over Scott.

If this is accurate then I've bought my last Marvel comic. And X3-the WORST superhero movie EVER made-will be directly responsiable for it.

And **** Tom Rothman, **** Marvel and **** Wolverine and his idiot fans for making all this happen. They can all go straight to hell.

[LadyVader]

So I was just looking over that scene where Scott gets knocked on his back.
You know, those jeans are pretty tight. You can tell Jean was a very lucky woman. :)

[Charlie No-One]

Link?

[PhePhe112]

I think they're just upset over Scott.

If this is accurate then I've bought my last Marvel comic. And X3-the WORST superhero movie EVER made-will be directly responsiable for it.

And **** Tom Rothman, **** Marvel and **** Wolverine and his idiot fans for making all this happen. They can all go straight to hell.


I feel the same way.
Stupid ****ing movie!!!! :mad: :mad:

[Pizzaboy1138]

I bet that page showing Cyke's death is a fakeout/dream sequence. Otherwise they wouldn't have shown it in the preview pages.

Dream, or no dream - they advertise with Scott's death AGAIN!

[bexta89]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/features/?id=2082&p=.htm

Marsden Interview at Mojo.


Damnit, why can't he be bitter about the fact he got shoved aside? It makes him even more likeable, lol. And Bambi? I saw Bambi once, and cried my eyes out. Never saw it again, I'm such a wimp, I cry at everything. And movie theatres being to loud... he got that right. Only reason I haven't seen X3 yet :( I just wish he was angry about X3...he wouldn't seem so perfect that way.

[Pizzaboy1138]

I just wish he was angry about X3...he wouldn't seem so perfect that way.

I bet he had to sign something about talking to the press about certain things concerning the movie.
They'd probably own his *** if he'd say something "wrong".
Either that, or he just doesn't care anymore because they treated him badly (?), or he already spilled his guts at home and just wants to keep his calm. Some future directors might no longer consider to cast him, if he talks badly about a movie he played in.

[TheVileOne]

Hi vile. long live the cyclops.

Quick question. Why didn't he consult the professor about hearing jean in his head?

Because that would mean MORE screentime for Cyclops. And 20th Century Fox couldn't allow that.

[LastSunrise1981]

I think they're just upset over Scott.

If this is accurate then I've bought my last Marvel comic. And X3-the WORST superhero movie EVER made-will be directly responsiable for it.

And **** Tom Rothman, **** Marvel and **** Wolverine and his idiot fans for making all this happen. They can all go straight to hell.

Hey Kuro, since it's been established that Wolverine is God, I have a question for you.

Who would win? Wolverine or Jesus?

http://biblia.com/jesusbible/blacksheep29g.jpg

Jesus- I've come to save The X-Men from Rothman and Fox.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/x3-wolverine.jpg

Logan- Like hell you will bub! This is MY movie and MY Franchise. Who in the hell let Jesus on the set?!

:o

Unfortunately that's what the franchise is about and now it's full Wolverine love.

[Hulkster]

in an unrelated story the writers of xmen comics are apparently getting influenced by cyclops fate in the movie aso they are killing him in the new phonix warsong miniseries (sequel to the great phoenix endsong mini series)
pic below :(
:(
http://comics.ign.com/articles/711/711055p1.html

I hope it's just a dream just like what Bishop2 said.:(

[Hugh'sMrs]

So I was just looking over that scene where Scott gets knocked on his back.
You know, those jeans are pretty tight. You can tell Jean was a very lucky woman. :)

I think you mean Lisa Linde is a very lucky woman. ;)

[Kurosawa]

Hey Kuro, since it's been established that Wolverine is God, I have a question for you.

Who would win? Wolverine or Jesus?

http://biblia.com/jesusbible/blacksheep29g.jpg

Jesus- I've come to save The X-Men from Rothman and Fox.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/x3-wolverine.jpg

Logan- Like hell you will bub! This is MY movie and MY Franchise. Who in the hell let Jesus on the set?!

:o

Unfortunately that's what the franchise is about and now it's full Wolverine love.


Well, as I said before....

Back in the original Dark Phoenix Saga, it was stated that the power of the Phoenix was second only to that of the creator.

In X3, Wolverine took everything Phoenix had and killed her, so therefore if X+Y=Z, then Wolverine must either = God or possibly > God.

If one believes in the Trinity, then Jesus = God. So it'd either be a tie or Wolverine would win.

I wish Wolverine would run into Chuck Norris.

[Daniella]

I think you mean Lisa Linde is a very lucky woman. ;)

Actually, both... Lisa has the actor and Jean has Scott... and I know that we are talking about the same person, but we can differenciate the actor from the character... ;)

About his pants in the lake scene in X3, I was thinking the same thing... it was a little hard not to notice it... :D

Dany

[Daniella]

It looked like in X2, you know at the start shes in that dark top its a picture like that.

Where was it ? In the table, near the bed ? I'll be more carefull the next time to notice it...

Dany

[Kurosawa]

LOL! :D yeah. Wolverine would get pwned.
:D yup.

[Retroman]

Someone spotted this in Forvik, Norway.:eek: :confused:

From storenorske (Taken on May 30):

http://static.flickr.com/46/156296452_70a76878e7.jpg
Took this photo outside the church in Forvik. Strange isn`t it?


Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19795997@N00/156296452/
^^^I contacted the person (who's a big X-Men fan) who took this picture and he told me that after seeing the film he went to visit his grandfathers grave. He maniped it to make it look like Scott Summers.

Oh, the agony for Cyke fans.:(

[MutantMetalhead]

From Zak Penn's latest answer at the Xverse:

- Were your hands tied as to whether or not Cyclops lives or was that a creative decision that you came up with?

* When Simon and I came onto this movie, we were told that Cyclops wasn't going to be in the film. We thought this was crazy and argued vehemently against it. I don't know what prompted this decision; scheduling conflicts with Superman, a genuine story choice, desire to foreground Wolverine, whatever. I don't know. What I do know is that we were boxed into a corner and we came up with the best solution we could for the story. Not an excuse, just a fact. And please don't ask me to tell you more than that about the backstage politics, because I can't and I won't.

- Many of us feel that the way Cyclops' death was handled was disrespectful to the character. Little mourning was done in his loss and the other characters' reactions could almost be described as indifference. His death was not seen on-screen and no time was spent looking for him, despite the lack of a body. What can you say to defend your treatment of this character?

* I think we should have spent more time dealing with what happened to Scott. Forget disrespectful, it was not great storytelling. As I said, we did not win every fight. But my name's on the script, so it's my responsibility.

That said, I don't think the scene at Alkali Lake is disrespectful in the least. And Logan reveals he loves Jean, but does Jean reveal the same about Logan? Watch again. Watch what happens when Xavier says that Jean "killed the man she loves."

This won't please anyone who wanted the original Dark Phoenix saga to stay intact, but the seeds of Logan taking over Scott's role were planted in the first film. There was simply no way Cyclops was going to be the main character in this film, not if Bryan directed it, not if Spielberg directed. Wolverine, particularly onscreen, is a far more popular character. You can blame me or Simon or James Marsden or Hugh Jackman or Chris Claremont but that's the way it is. I know many of you Cyke fans are nuts about this, but the movies aren't the comics. Period.

[tallsy_1]

He says that the seeds for Wolverine taking over from Cyke were in X1. Then says that decision was driven by Wolverine being a more popular onscreen character. How would they know that before the movie was made? Or more to the point, if you lay the groundwork for Wolverine taking over from Cyke, isn't it inevitable that Wolverine will be more popular.

[Downhere]

Like what is being said in the Simon thread...

Why fight to bring in Cyke (since the writers were told he wasn't even going to be in the movie) just to kill him off?

Killing Cyke was my biggest complaint and the low point of the film for me and I thought maybe the writers were forced but they weren't. They could have knocked him out at the beginning and kept him alive even though he wouldn't do much, but no they think the best thing for his character is to kill him off. Thus, killing off any glimmer of hope for Cyke fans to dream and think that he could return in a future film.

[tallsy_1]

The more I think about this. The more angry I am at Singer, then these guys. Jackman wasn't that well known before X1, so it's not as if his star power was overwhelming then. And yet X1 was clearly written with Wolverine to supplant Cyclops. One thing I have to agree with the writers on - the message that Wolverine would be more important than Cyclops was put forth at the beginning.

[Bishop2]

The more I think about this. The more angry I am at Singer, then these guys. Jackman wasn't that well known before X1, so it's not as if his star power was overwhelming then. And yet X1 was clearly written with Wolverine to supplant Cyclops. One thing I have to agree with the writers on - the message that Wolverine would be more important than Cyclops was put forth at the beginning.

I disagree. You could have EASILY made this franchise focus on a DIFFERENT central character in each movie... Singer's failure was not in X1. It was in X2, when he decided to keep Wolverine as the only star, the only character that matters. He could've put Wolverine in a supporting, secondary plot and had the story focus on Storm or Cyke or Jean or whoever, but he didn't. And by doing that in X2, THAT'S what laid the groundwork for the films we now know as Wolverine, W2: Wolverine United and Wolverine: The Last Stand.

[Retroman]

Why are you guys blaming Singer for the Cyclops mess in X3? They gave storm a bigger role didn't they?

If you read what Zak said you'll see that Cyclops was not evening going to be in the freaking movie to begin with until they fought to get him in.

[Downhere]

... until they fought to get him in.

...only to kill him off. :o

[borinquenknight]

LOL! :D yeah. Wolverine would get pwned.

Yup, potato sacked!

[Bishop2]

Why are you guys blaming Singer for the Cyclops mess in X3? They gave storm a bigger role didn't they?

If you read what Zak said you'll see that Cyclops was not evening going to be in the freaking movie to begin with until they fought to get him in.

I'm not sure which was the better option - killing him or keeping him entirely out.

However, yeah, the studio heads are definitely the ones to blame at the end of the day.

But do I believe that, if Singer had done X3, Cyke would've had a prominent role (even if it was secondary to Wolvie)? Absolutely.

[LadyVader]

I know many of you Cyke fans are nuts about this, but the movies aren't the comics. Period.

That is no excuse for s**ty writing. Exclamation mark.

[peteapan]

Why cant these people see the problem with this film should not have been we have to pick Wolverine over Cyclops. Since when hasn't the dynamic between Cyclops and Wolverine worked? Why was it a choice!!!!!! Cyclops the leader, Wolverine the Rebel. His reasons of cyke not being in the film cos wolverine is just too popular does not hold up at all. Its pathetic in a team film, with his own movie on its way Wolverine was the Xmen with a splash of Storm for Halle's star power

[Hugh'sMrs]

Why are you guys blaming Singer for the Cyclops mess in X3? They gave storm a bigger role didn't they?

If you read what Zak said you'll see that Cyclops was not evening going to be in the freaking movie to begin with until they fought to get him in.

Exactly. In Singer's version of X3 we probably would've had:
1. Storm on sabbatical to explain her absence from the film.
2. Storm recast.
3. Halle's Storm at the very least significantly reduced.

We definitely wouldn't have had X-Men: The Halle Berry Show and we would've gotten the long awaited Scott and Jean film. Singer has never stated that he wanted to showcase Storm or Wolverine(again) but he has indicated that he wanted to finally let Scott shine. So Zak's theory that Cyclops would be screwed again anyway shouldn't be taken as the gospel. If Fox wanted to make Wolverine the star yet again (which is understandable considering the character's popularity) I think Singer would've fought much harder than Zak and Simon (and had more clout) for Cyclops.

Hugh's star power can't be used as an excuse as to why he was showcased in X1 because it was non-existent at that time but he did become the breakout star and that's why he was pushed to the front in X2. If Marsden had received the same hype coming out of the first film, Fox probably wouldn't have had a problem giving him more screentime in X2. Of course if that had happened I wonder if they'd be so quick to screw him over in X3 because he'd dared to work for #1 on their ***** List.
Marsden WAS royally screwed over not necessarily because he took a job with a rival franchise but because he went to work for Singer. You'd have to be in total denial not to accept that by now.

[CapBeerCino]

That is no excuse for s**ty writing. Exclamation mark.

Best post ever! :up:

[Kurosawa]

I disagree. You could have EASILY made this franchise focus on a DIFFERENT central character in each movie... Singer's failure was not in X1. It was in X2, when he decided to keep Wolverine as the only star, the only character that matters. He could've put Wolverine in a supporting, secondary plot and had the story focus on Storm or Cyke or Jean or whoever, but he didn't. And by doing that in X2, THAT'S what laid the groundwork for the films we now know as Wolverine, W2: Wolverine United and Wolverine: The Last Stand.

FOX presents:

WOLVERINE

and his little mutie sidekicks

[Harlekin]

I only demanded one thing thing from this movie (which I like to call Wolverine and his Amazing Friends 3) after they killed of Scott. The final scene, the one after the credits, it was a shocker, but it was done for the wrong character.

Final scene, it's dark, we just see a dark shape.
Two red eyes start glowing and red fills the screen.
Fade away.

X4: Return of Cyclops

[Pizzaboy1138]

From Zak Penn's latest answer at the Xverse:

* I think we should have spent more time dealing with what happened to Scott. Forget disrespectful, it was not great storytelling. As I said, we did not win every fight. But my name's on the script, so it's my responsibility.

Blame it on whoever. I bet they could have slipped a tear or sentence about Scott now and then into the script.

[Optic Rage]

So I was just looking over that scene where Scott gets knocked on his back.
You know, those jeans are pretty tight. You can tell Jean was a very lucky woman. :)

lol two of my friends who seen the movie started whispering how big his bulge looked during the movie.

**SIGH** after reading those interviews...james seems like such a top guy.

I want to meet him and tell him how much support he had...because i think he thinks people dont care about cyclops.

[CapBeerCino]

I want to meet him and tell him how much support he had...because i think he think people dont care about cyclops.

Ditto. Is there no way to contact him? :( (Where's Retro when you need him...)

[Hugh'sMrs]

I thought Zak would fall on his sword for Fox and take the blame for Marsden's bludgeoning. Guess not.

[Bana]

that's lame.. it's not like killing Cyke off was the only option they had. -_-;

[Bishop2]

Blame it on whoever. I bet they could have slipped a tear or sentence about Scott now and then into the script.

They did do THAT much. Xavier's line to Jean, Logan's monologue to the kids about what "Scott and the Professor" stood for.

I still laugh bitterly every time I think about Halle Berry's insincere, hollow "No!" when Logan announces Scott's death.

that's lame.. it's not like killing Cyke off was the only option they had. -_-;

I get the impression it actually IS the only option they had; Penn says he can't and won't go into the studio politics beyond what he says there. I think that pretty much tells us that Fox said "Fine, you can have him in the movie, but he can't live more than 15 minutes."

[WorthyStevens]

Wow. Cyclops never had a chance.

Wow. :down

[Hugh'sMrs]

lol two of my friends who seen the movie started whispering how big his bulge looked during the movie.

**SIGH** after reading those interviews...james seems like such a top guy.

I want to meet him and tell him how much support he had...because i think he thinks people dont care about cyclops.

The costume department for X2 gossiped about Marsden's bod.

Marsden's loyalty to the character and the franchise should be applauded.

I believe Ed Limato of ICM is still his agent. You might want to check with him.

Tel: 310-550-4000

This link takes you to their street and e-mail address.
http://www.icmtalent.com/contact.html

[Pizzaboy1138]

Ditto. Is there no way to contact him?

http://www.fanmail.biz/43835.html

c/o Brillstein-Grey Entertainment
9150 Wilshire Blvd
Suite 350
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
USA

Secondary mailing address:


c/o Endeavor Agency
9601 Wilshire Blvd., 3rd Fl.
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
USA

[CapBeerCino]

I get the impression it actually IS the only option they had; Penn says he can't and won't go into the studio politics beyond what he says there. I think that pretty much tells us that Fox said "Fine, you can have him in the movie, but he can't live more than 15 minutes."

He also said Scott was not good story telling and it's his fault. He could write him leaving/coma/whatever.

[Pizzaboy1138]

They did do THAT much. Xavier's line to Jean, Logan's monologue to the kids about what "Scott and the Professor" stood for.


Yeah, you could feel their pain allright. Only not.

[J.Howlett]

All Fox had to do to make this film the best it could be was to push it into turn around instead of trying to beat Singer to the theatre.

Again, this whole episode is about Rothman's ego, plain and simple.

[Bishop2]

Some of the other stuff that Zak Penn mentions was "inexplicably cut" between the script and final film stages includes:

- Angel suiting up and joining the team in the final battle, rather than suddenly appearing in San Francisco from the opposite side of the country.

- Jean going into full-on "Phoenix flames" mode.

He also seems to be hinting that Fox wanted Jean and Logan to declare their love for each other, but they fought against that and won.

Moral of the story: Fox blows dogs for quarters.

[vanillacyke]

Well the chances of Scott ever coming back in an X4(if there is one) is next to none. If Fox did'nt want him in 3 I doubt they'd want him in 4. Son's of losers.

[Nathan]

When the hell is Fox losing their X-Men rights?

[WorthyStevens]

Affter reading the Penn Q&A, I'm glad X3 took a dive this weekend... not out of hate for the movie, but hate and loathing for that ******** prick Rothman.

[Mar420x]

When the hell is Fox losing their X-Men rights?


after the spinoff movies flop u wont catch me buying into fox movies anymore. peace.

[vanillacyke]

It took a dive? That's good hopefully Fox won't want anything to do with the X-Men and will give it back to Marvel.

[WorthyStevens]

It dropped 67% this weekend.

[Rac]

Anyways, don't know if this has been posted (probably has) but here's a quote from James describing some of his favorite movies:
Jaws. The Exorcist. I can't turn off The Godfather when it's on television. More recently, In America was very moving—wonderful movie—the acting is superb. I love Bambi. That movie is an exercise in restraint. The pauses—the time allowed for a moment to bring you in, instead of moments being thrown at you—it doesn't have to fill every empty space with a funny line or an explosion or with this drive to keep the attention. It's like: this is drawing me in. I watch these old films where the pace wasn't super-fast and there weren't 18 angles to cut away in order to see a car flipping over. There's a car wreck scene in Vanilla Sky—which I think was shot brilliantly—where the car careens off the edge, goes into a dry riverbed, and smashes into the wall. It's a straightforward, master wide-angle shot of a big car falling off a bridge, not spectacularly with flips and turns and hubcaps flying at the camera lens, smashing into a wall. It made me jump out of my seat, because it was like standing there watching a car hit a wall—for real—as opposed to jumping around to eight different points of view which you could never really perceive. I like filmmakers who use restraint and allow moments to breathe.
Hmmmmmm...
Haha, someone doesn't like X3. :D

[CapBeerCino]

It dropped 67% this weekend.

Front page:
Third installment drops 66.6% in ticket sales
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=4337

[vanillacyke]

It dropped 67% this weekend.

Damn, Good. Fox will see they can't screw over loved characters. Damn petty blow hards.

[CapBeerCino]

Haha, someone doesn't like X3. :D

Ha! I missed that! Go Jimmy! :up: :D

[WorthyStevens]

As much as I liked the movie (despite Cyclops' screwjob), the only language Rothman understands is $$$. X3 taking a dive at the BO is the only way he'll learn.

[Optic Rage]

yeh but he will be all like ah thats because wolverine didnt get enough screentime...or the x-men are getting stale.

****

[Pizzaboy1138]

As much as I liked the movie (despite Cyclops' screwjob), the only language Rothman understands is $$$. X3 taking a dive at the BO is the only way he'll learn.

Rothman will blame it on everybody else, maybe on the internet.

[Bishop2]

Rothman will blame it on everybody else, maybe on the internet.

Remember when Warner Bros. executives blamed the failure of Batman & Robin on the Internet people "never giving it a chance"? COMEDY!

[Rac]

Front page:
Third installment drops 66.6% in ticket sales
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=4337 666. :ghost:

Tuesday is coming...

[Pizzaboy1138]

Remember when Warner Bros. executives blamed the failure of Batman & Robin on the Internet people "never giving it a chance"? COMEDY!

If we were that powerful, how come they didn't change the Scott-situation after the script-spill?

[CapBeerCino]

666. :ghost:

Tuesday is coming...

Lol, didn't notice that. :p

[Optic Rage]

Using the fans as a scapegoat...and making us out as unreasnable geeks.

[Cyke82]

Affter reading the Penn Q&A, I'm glad X3 took a dive this weekend... not out of hate for the movie, but hate and loathing for that ******** prick Rothman.

I don't see how it's going to rebound either. If the Break-Up caused so much of a drop in its numbers, what's going to happen next weekend when Cars opens? There isn't a huge blockbuster coming the weekend of the 16/17, but by that time, it'll probably be too late.

[jcykeson]

i wonder if FOX will get the message that kiling off Cyke.. and not making him a better character.. is bad blood for the X-fans? few of my friends who were die hard was quite upset that Logan was the leader, as he was supposed to be a loner(not to mention the Australian accent once in a while) and that the effect of Jean's Phoenix is better in X2. don't get me started on cyke..

[vanillacyke]

You know the thing with Fox screwing over Marsden reminds me of Warner Bros screwing over Margot Kidder in Superman 3. They screwed her in that film just cause she felt they screwed Donner outta 2. Hollywood Studios will never grow up.

[Kurosawa]

Affter reading the Penn Q&A, I'm glad X3 took a dive this weekend... not out of hate for the movie, but hate and loathing for that ******** prick Rothman.

Yeah, I'm pretty pleased myself.

[jcykeson]

If there is only one postive thing regarding X3 is that it brought a lot of hype now for Cyclops. Cyke's fan begins to rise up, die hard fans are questioning this character, even movie goers are felt confused of Scott's role.. hence, learning more of him..

[CapBeerCino]

If there is only one postive thing regarding X3 is that it brought a lot of hype now for Cyclops. Cyke's fan begins to rise up, die hard fans are questioning this character, even movie goers are felt confused of Scott's role.. hence, learning more of him..

True, Cyke is on the map :D

[fallenAngel]

They did do THAT much. Xavier's line to Jean, Logan's monologue to the kids about what "Scott and the Professor" stood for.

I still laugh bitterly every time I think about Halle Berry's insincere, hollow "No!" when Logan announces Scott's death.



I get the impression it actually IS the only option they had; Penn says he can't and won't go into the studio politics beyond what he says there. I think that pretty much tells us that Fox said "Fine, you can have him in the movie, but he can't live more than 15 minutes."

then they should have at least given him a scene with Xavier and a longer scene with Jean. They could have talked more, even had some loving or something. Heck, even if they started floating out onto the water, that would have been much more visually cool.

[hue]

The costume department for X2 gossiped about Marsden's bod.

Marsden's loyalty to the character and the franchise should be applauded.

I believe Ed Limato of ICM is still his agent. You might want to check with him.

Tel: 310-550-4000

This link takes you to their street and e-mail address.
http://www.icmtalent.com/contact.html

If someone does contact them, maybe they could ask that they look in on this post.

Anyway, I am glad for the news that the movie dropped so sharply. They underestimated the power of the original story that is Pheonix/Dark Pheonix. Even if a lot of the movie goers are not fans of Cyke, many know the story and would be disappointed anyway that the film deviated so much. The 2 part final of the Dark Pheonix story was the first x-men book I ever picked up and what a place to start. The art was great, and story incredible. You don't mess up THIS story. Sure, take out the Shiar, and add different twists to the original story here and there, but not kill key characters in that story. Don't fix something that aint broke. Now at least we Cyke fans may feel somewhat happy that the one thing they cared about, (making money at the expense of telling a credible story) may be the one thing they may not get. Sure it will still be profitable despite the decline, but it will never be Spiderman profits. Spiderman is not short sighted, and therefore always comes out a winner. And Spiderman is one character.

[Bishop2]

There's one thing in Zak Penn's Q&A that I REALLY don't understand... he says that the studio made it clear it was "Now or never" for X3. If the movie wasn't released RIGHT NOW, it wouldn't have gotten made

WHY?!

[fallenAngel]

yeh but he will be all like ah thats because wolverine didnt get enough screentime...or the x-men are getting stale.

****

Those damn X men, they're holding him back. thank god he finally gets to free himself of the shackels and go on full berserker rage in any forest he likes against any stupid mutants he likes. Who need guns and baseball bats, really what's the deal.

And thank god at least they made Jean faithful to Scott.

[fallenAngel]

There's one thing in Zak Penn's Q&A that I REALLY don't understand... he says that the studio made it clear it was "Now or never" for X3. If the movie wasn't released RIGHT NOW, it wouldn't have gotten made

WHY?!

I really get the feeling that Fox really doesn't like the X men. Why I don't understand. They never believed in it.

and that statement about the original Supes 3 Lois Lane, that is a great comparison. And that really hurt the movie. It's almost as if they would have left Han Solo frozen in Return of the Jedi, like some originally wanted. Or bring him back just to kill him like others wanted.

[Rac]

I really get the feeling that Fox really doesn't like the X men. Why I don't understand. They never believed in it. Maybe they are that kinda people who hates mutants.

;P

[hue]

What they are saying is that they never intended to tell and honest tale about the X-Men, just milk the most popular character to make the most money.

If I were a producer of a movie with a rabid fan base and scripts already in place for over 40 years, would I decide to change the dynamic of the team? I mean there are over 40 years of fans out there who are expecting the team to be composed of certain members and for each to have their respective places and personalities. It just doesn't make sense alienating fans in this manner. They are where you get guaranteed revenue. Why treat them to something they won't be able to identify with? I just don't understand this kind of decision making, and I am not even a movie producer or anything.

[ginny_weasley]

If there is only one postive thing regarding X3 is that it brought a lot of hype now for Cyclops. Cyke's fan begins to rise up, die hard fans are questioning this character, even movie goers are felt confused of Scott's role.. hence, learning more of him..
The AICN hoopla certainly made me appreciate him more. :up:

[JustABill]

You know....I'm also kinda pleased now that the film took the dive, I still semi-love most of what we got out of X3, but that just wow....

Marvel please get the X-Men back. Please?!

[fallenAngel]

What they are saying is that they never intended to tell and honest tale about the X-Men, just milk the most popular character to make the most money.

If I were a producer of a movie with a rabid fan base and scripts already in place for over 40 years, would I decide to change the dynamic of the team? I mean there are over 40 years of fans out there who are expecting the team to be composed of certain members and for each to have their respective places and personalities. It just doesn't make sense alienating fans in this manner. They are where you get guaranteed revenue. Why treat them to something they won't be able to identify with? I just don't understand this kind of decision making, and I am not even a movie producer or anything.

What makes me the most angry is when reviewers and the producers lay on crap about how fans will enjoy this movie the most because we'll get all of it. And how so many things are here for the fans. Like what the fast ball special? yeah that was cool but not enough to make me want to go see the movie again and again.

This movie wasn't made for the fans, not even Wolverine fans. Who got to see the once badass be turned into Xaviers lap dog and team cheerleader.

[Optic Rage]

i agree!

What the hell was lauren sd thinking when she said after reading the interney sje knew exactly what the fans wanted.

[Bishop2]

I really get the feeling that Fox really doesn't like the X men. Why I don't understand. They never believed in it.

That still doesn't explain this. Especially since they seem so eager to continue the franchise with FOUR freakin' spinoffs. Why would they have refused to make the sequel at any other time?

[Hugh'sMrs]

Halle also said (most recently in that Extra interview) that this film delivers what the fans ALWAYS wanted to see. Right. I don't know what fans she's talking about but I didn't want to see

1. Wolverine being a jerk about Jean while Scott was around and then trying to bone her the minute the guy was out of the picture.

2. Storm turned into a Power Ranger without any explanation (I'm guessing Zak will say that she trained for 24/7 in the Danger Room)

3. Rogue being threatened by an obviously child-like Kitty. (If they wanted to make that triangle have an ounce of believability they should've rehired Sumela Kay)

4. Jean killing the love of her life without any provocation. (I'm not buying the powers-going-haywire excuse)

5. Pyro's inexplicable hatred towards Bobby. I know friends can turn on each other but there was no set up for this vehement change.

6. The Phoenix Saga bastardized.

and mostly importantly

7. Scott killed off.

[the a1ant]

'Whirlpool of Love' music score from X3....it's truly haunting at the end. :(

http://www.xmenfilms.net/chatdownloads.html

[hue]

I really get the feeling that Fox really doesn't like the X men. Why I don't understand. They never believed in it.

and that statement about the original Supes 3 Lois Lane, that is a great comparison. And that really hurt the movie. It's almost as if they would have left Han Solo frozen in Return of the Jedi, like some originally wanted. Or bring him back just to kill him like others wanted.

You know if they did not like x-men or believe in it, they should have never acquired it.

[Retroman]

Does anyone remember this article?


X-Men vs. Superman

Battles rage between "X-Men" and "Superman." Plus, the lowdown on "Hustle & Flow"

by Gregory Ellwood
Special to MSN Entertainment
Feb. 3, 2005

You'd think a quiet announcement regarding the casting of Jimmy Olsen in Bryan Singer's new "Superman Returns" movie wouldn't amount to much. However, it sounded peculiar so I decided to investigate. The rumor mill speculated for months that Shawn Ashmore -- who starred as Iceman in Singer's "X-2" -- would play the energetic Daily Planet photographer. It was somewhat of a surprise then when the Hollywood Reporter announced Monday that Sam Huntington had been cast in the part instead. This is a huge break for Huntington, who hasn't starred in a major movie since 2001's "Not Another Teen Movie." He first gained attention for playing Tim Allen's son in "Jungle 2 Jungle."

According to my sources, 20th Century Fox nixed the idea of up-and-coming Ashmore starring in Warner Bros' new Superman feature. Fox is telling actors who have options for the third, untitled X-Men film that it will begin shooting June 20th. That conflicts with "Superman Returns'" spring shooting schedule, which is anticipated to go through July 30. Ashmore is one of the few actors in the X-Men franchise that is contractually obligated to two sequels (one already being in the books). The other actors locked in include Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler), Aaron Stanford (Pyro), Anna Paquin (Rogue) and Rebecca Romijn (Mystique). Cumming confirmed the June 20th start date while speaking to the press for "Son of the Mask" over the weekend. My sources also say that Hugh Jackman (Wolverine), who did not have a third sequel option, has agreed to a new contract for the movie and has approval on the new director for the series. Unless a miracle occurs, James Marsden has already been removed from consideration as Cyclops after he took a smaller part as Perry White's son in "Superman Returns." We'll see if Marsden's loyalty to Singer was a smart career move.

The whole situation reeks of bad blood on Fox's side. The idea that Ashmore's shooting schedule for a minor part in "Superman" couldn't be negotiated so he could participate in both movies is ludicrous. Studios work together to coordinate conflicts like this all the time. It's good business. Marsden's schedule could also be worked out, though I personally feel an actor with more range wouldn't be a bad idea. More importantly, there is neither a finished script nor a director on board for this new X-Men flick. Just last week, Zak Penn, who has a story credit on "X2," was brought on board to start a whole new draft. Does Fox really believe "X3" will begin shooting in five months? No. But after Singer spurned them for "Superman Returns" and a production deal with WB, they aren't going to do him any favors.

What about the rest of the mutant crew? Expect Ian McKellen (Magneto), Patrick Stewart (Professor X) and Famke Janssen (Jean Grey) to return for the right price. Yes, Jean Grey 's character died at the end of the last flick, but as any fan of the comic knows, a "Phoenix"-like resurrection should occur. And Halle Berry? Well, the gossip rags published numerous stories about her contentious relationship with Singer and unhappiness with the small roles in the previous films. The gossip was pretty much on the mark. However, Berry's celebrity helped "X2" achieve its massive box office (do you recall whose image was second biggest on the poster after Hugh?). And with Singer out of the picture, it's up to Fox as to whether they want to pay enough to bring her back. Considering the "Catwoman" fiasco, she'd be smart to meet them halfway.
Source: http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/2-3-05

[JustABill]

Actually, I do remember that.

[Retroman]

Actually, I do remember that.
If Ashmore had accepted the Jimmy Olsen role Iceman might have suffered a similar fate like Cyclops in X3.

[WorthyStevens]

If Ashmore had accepted the Jimmy Olsen role Iceman might have suffered a similar fate as Cyclops in X3.

I wonder what would have happened had Jackman made an appearance as rumored.

[Retroman]

I wonder what would have happened had Jackman made an appearance as rumored.
They would make it work for him for:up:

The Jackman as Pa Kent thing was just BS. Jackman met up with Singer while in Australia and had a meal with him, Brandon Routh and Jackman's wife.Thats all.

Glenn Ford will always remain Pa Kent.

[Bishop2]

Last I heard Jackman DOES indeed have a very small cameo as Pa in a single flashback... when did we hear it was fake?

[vanillacyke]

I was wondering if anyone would pull that outta the web. Good going Retro. I remember when I first read that, thats when my worries for Cyclops started. IGN followed up on it saying that Cyke would either be recast or killed off (both of those statements bothered me). Then the AICN script review came out and that solidified the worries for Cyclops. I believe that's when I decided to become a member here to.

[Bishop2]

3. Rogue being threatened by an obviously child-like Kitty. (If they wanted to make that triangle have an ounce of believability they should've rehired Sumela Kay)

SUMELA KAY 4 LIFE.

Sumela was the only actress who looked like Kitty from the comics. She also is even hotter today than she was back in 2000. It's not like BOTH of the previous Kitties don't have adequate acting experience to do what was asked of Ms. Page in this one... they should've stuck with one of the earlier Kitties, and not had THREE ACTRESSES IN THREE MOVIES. And Sumela was clearly the best for the part.

5. Pyro's inexplicable hatred towards Bobby. I know friends can turn on each other but there was no set up for this vehement change.

They didn't exactly seem to like each other much in the last film either, to be fair.

[gambitfire]

Hi everyone! who's happy about the 66.6% drop (raises hand)

[Retroman]

Last I heard Jackman DOES indeed have a very small cameo as Pa in a single flashback... when did we hear it was fake?
Its not true. Both Singer and Jackman have confirmed this.

As i said before he was just having dinner (or lunch) with Singer, Routh and his wife.

Theres a prop on the SR Kent Farm set with Glenn Ford. They manipped the head of the young clark next to him.

[Nathan]

Hi everyone! who's happy about the 66.6% drop (raises hand)

*raises hand*

I don't know how else Fox will finally get the message not to **** with a good franchise.

[Retroman]

I was wondering if anyone would pull that outta the web. Good going Retro. I remember when I first read that, thats when my worries for Cyclops started. IGN followed up on it saying that Cyke would either be recast or killed off (both of those statements bothered me). Then the AICN script review came out and that solidified the worries for Cyclops. I believe that's when I decided to become a member here to.
Just thought i bring it back to everyone's attention.:)

[gambitfire]

*raises hand*

I don't know how else Fox will finally get the message not to **** with a good franchise.

THANK YOU!!! lol yea i knew ppl out there had sense left i mean we all just had too see it too believe that explains the Box Office hit and after that come the real test and they failed.:down


and im happy :D

[cyke93]

so whats new guys? i ve been battling sickness and packing ... i saw that x3 had the biggest post memorial drop ever ... am i surprised.. no

[cyke93]

well i just read zak's answers, and i am pleased that he answered it straight up and honestly. we can ***** all we want but we cant do nothing. all we can hope for is more people unite to allow cyclops more time for x4 (if one is made)

i think cyclops dying early on was dumb, but having him not in the film at all is the dumbest thing. i hate fox. i truly do.

[Tony Stark]

It's pretty obvious that people are dissapointed in this movie. The studio will spin it as a success, as it will probably make more money than any of the X-men films, and only trail the Spider-man movies in box office take for a Superhero movie.

But you can't spin the drop any other way than to say that the movie is not sitting well with the general public.

[Optic Rage]

Has anyone asked simons what his screen name was over here yet?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Emma needs to die. Emma needs to DIE! ...

Im gonna write my own comic where Jean comes back and takes back her 'Phoenix' title... and thus killing Emma.

I have a title in mind: Kill Emma - Volume 1

:p hehehe...

Well anyway. lol. If u have ideas. Let me know. heh.

[gambitfire]

HEY!!! I LIKE EMMA SO WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!! i say Scott should have both Emma and Jean :o that'll show the real player in him :D

This is the guy who Pyslocke had the hots for lets face the fact HE's A PIMP!!!

[Optic Rage]

wow i cant beleive i forgot this.

Well you know how everyone is blaming scotts death on x3[and the reason why they wanted him out of the picture]

Well didnt simon say they wrote scotts part BEFORE he signed for Sm and didnt he also say that he wrote it so it would be a small part so he didnt even have to return for long

i smell something...

[DarknessOfDeath]

smell what?

[gambitfire]

wow i cant beleive i forgot this.

Well you know how everyone is blaming scotts death on x3[and the reason why they wanted him out of the picture]

Well didnt simon say they wrote scotts part BEFORE he signed for Sm and didnt he also say that he wrote it so it would be a small part so he didnt even have to return for long

i smell something...

He already made some stupid statement on we knew from X1 that Wolverine would take Scott's glory.

Which makes sense since Jean chose Scott in X2 :rolleyes:

At first i thought he was a nice guy but now its seem likes he's speaking out of his ass trying to defend what he did while opposing *coughsHypocrite*

W/e i don't entirely blame him for what happened to Scott.

[Kurosawa]

Hi everyone! who's happy about the 66.6% drop (raises hand)

*raises hand*

[Bishop2]

HEY!!! I LIKE EMMA SO WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!! i say Scott should have both Emma and Jean :o that'll show the real player in him :D

This is the guy who Pyslocke had the hots for lets face the fact HE's A PIMP!!!

Emma is in my top three X-Men ever. Cyke, Beast and Emma. My absolute faves. She rules. :)

[Daniella]

Emma needs to die. Emma needs to DIE! ...

Im gonna write my own comic where Jean comes back and takes back her 'Phoenix' title... and thus killing Emma.

I have a title in mind: Kill Emma - Volume 1

:p hehehe...

Well anyway. lol. If u have ideas. Let me know. heh.

I'll be the first to buy it!!! Just to see Emma die :p... I hate her !!!

PS: Bad things don't die easily... do you remember that Jean already droped a building on Emma and guess what... she's still alive !!! :mad:

Dany

[DarknessOfDeath]

Oh Really? ... Send me the comic :p lol

[Hulkster]

Hi everyone! who's happy about the 66.6% drop (raises hand)

*raises hand*

[Optic Rage]

Gey guys you should go check out my reveiew in the sticky.

Its really negative so you should all like it!

[Hulkster]

Where??

[Optic Rage]

its the very top one.

The member reviews thread.

[Hulkster]

Thanks I'll read it.

I've read your review, and you're right Optic Rage, the X3 movie is a complete butchery of the comics.:(

[gambitfire]

anyone care to join me in the simon gets the pressur thread?....im having loads of fun :D

[CapBeerCino]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyke93
- Why did Xavier easily dismiss Cyclops off to run the school, while in X1 had that great scene of showing Cyclops willing and able to take over Xavier's place if something should happen to him

* See above. Also, we wanted to give Storm a leadership position, as she hasn't had much to do. It made sense given that Scott is being driven crazy by psychic calls from Jean. (And by the way, the implication is not that Scott is a crying baby; the implication is that Jean is trying to contact him and it's driving him nuts.) People who say Cyke comes off weak in his brief time in the film are not being fair to the movie.

- Why did Cyclops only have interaction with only 2 characters, Jean and Logan?

* See above.

- Why did storm not say anything about Cyclops during Xavier's funeral?

* She did at one point, but it made the earlier problem we discussed all the more glaring. Also, the X-Men are never completely sure what happened to him. They only have the glasses and Jean's reaction; no body, etc.

Edit: So now they are not sure? (Also if they are not sure they won't give him a funeral, but won't go look for him? Some friends...)

[echostation]

the film itself wasn't so bad I guess, granted they made some criminal changes

but the biggest biggest issue here is from how Fox and the writers handled Cyke... it's bull**** that they said they were cornered and this is the best they came up with... absolutely bull****... All you have to do is show Phoenix incapacitate Cyke at least instead out of outright kill him and let Mr Logan-wannabe clops leader do his thing if they were going to treat such a classic story that terribly.

[Bishop2]

Check out this comic strip. (http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/20060605cyclops.png) (Beware of profanity if you're at work.)

LOVE it. SO accurate to the flick.

[grey_jeanie]

LOL love it, just love it

[DarknessOfDeath]

Rothman is an idiot!

[LEX]

Check out this comic strip. (http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/20060605cyclops.png) (Beware of profanity if you're at work.)

LOVE it. SO accurate to the flick.
Hilarious.

[DarknessOfDeath]

... Indeed.

Rothman, your so full of s***.

...

[grey_jeanie]

... indeed

Just breath :)

[LEX]

I wish I could draw like that on my computer. Just need to get a tablet, that's all.

[JokerNick]

I wish I could draw like that on my computer. Just need to get a tablet, that's all.

sell you my wacom tablet......... I never use it anymore

[KenK]

Not that this would ever happen (because clearly FOX would like to ignore the fact that Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men and the love of Jean's life) but how about this?:

We never see Cyke's body, and Jean is unconscious when Storm and Wolverine find her. Now, if we're just playing "Imaginary X-Men 4", let's introduce Sinister. Scott and Alex are separated after the plane crash they escaped as children. Sinister has been watching their development the whole time, and sometime in the past, recruits Alex. When Cyclops goes to Alkali Lake, Havok follows him, sees what happens with Jean and eventually decides to intervene before she kills him, which is why she'd be unconscious when she's found.

Cyclops is weakened, but sustained by Sinister, who lays it all out for him. And since X3 has already introduced fringe mutants who could be considered Morlocks, have a story revolving around Sinister kidnapping mutants, thus having the public again be divided on how the situation is handled, think of it as an allegory for media's constant coverage of every pretty white female that goes missing, while other people might not get the same media attention. It becomes another social issue for the X-Men to face, and in tracking down Sinister, they confront Scott and Havok.

That's what I'd do.

[LEX]

sell you my wacom tablet......... I never use it anymore
I'll take it for free, thanks.

...joking.

[JokerNick]

Not that this would ever happen (because clearly FOX would like to ignore the fact that Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men and the love of Jean's life) but how about this?:

We never see Cyke's body, and Jean is unconscious when Storm and Wolverine find her. Now, if we're just playing "Imaginary X-Men 4", let's introduce Sinister. Scott and Alex are separated after the plane crash they escaped as children. Sinister has been watching their development the whole time, and sometime in the past, recruits Alex. When Cyclops goes to Alkali Lake, Havok follows him, sees what happens with Jean and eventually decides to intervene before she kills him, which is why she'd be unconscious when she's found.

Cyclops is weakened, but sustained by Sinister, who lays it all out for him. And since X3 has already introduced fringe mutants who could be considered Morlocks, have a story revolving around Sinister kidnapping mutants, thus having the public again be divided on how the situation is handled, think of it as an allegory for media's constant coverage of every pretty white female that goes missing, while other people might not get the same media attention. It becomes another social issue for the X-Men to face, and in tracking down Sinister, they confront Scott and Havok.

That's what I'd do.

that's what you would do, fox on the other hand would just kill cyclops off and act like he never existed, oh crap, that already happened

[KenK]

that's what you would do, fox on the other hand would just kill cyclops off and act like he never existed, oh crap, that already happened

I already established that. I just wanted to know if anyone here thought that would make for an interesting story.

[CapBeerCino]

Check out this comic strip. (http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/20060605cyclops.png) (Beware of profanity if you're at work.)

LOVE it. SO accurate to the flick.

LMAO :D

[ginny_weasley]

Check out this comic strip. (http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/20060605cyclops.png) (Beware of profanity if you're at work.)

LOVE it. SO accurate to the flick.
*cries* it's just so - so - true! :(

[Kurosawa]

Not that this would ever happen (because clearly FOX would like to ignore the fact that Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men and the love of Jean's life) but how about this?:

We never see Cyke's body, and Jean is unconscious when Storm and Wolverine find her. Now, if we're just playing "Imaginary X-Men 4", let's introduce Sinister. Scott and Alex are separated after the plane crash they escaped as children. Sinister has been watching their development the whole time, and sometime in the past, recruits Alex. When Cyclops goes to Alkali Lake, Havok follows him, sees what happens with Jean and eventually decides to intervene before she kills him, which is why she'd be unconscious when she's found.

Cyclops is weakened, but sustained by Sinister, who lays it all out for him. And since X3 has already introduced fringe mutants who could be considered Morlocks, have a story revolving around Sinister kidnapping mutants, thus having the public again be divided on how the situation is handled, think of it as an allegory for media's constant coverage of every pretty white female that goes missing, while other people might not get the same media attention. It becomes another social issue for the X-Men to face, and in tracking down Sinister, they confront Scott and Havok.

That's what I'd do.

All I can say is...I wish.

[LadyVader]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/Cyclopsfalls.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/cyclopsfalls2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/cyclopsfalls3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/bulgeaction.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/bulgeaction2.jpg

All i can say is...
damn. :)

[Bastila]

Damn his hot lol. Nice shots .

[ginny_weasley]

All i can say is...
damn. :)

Indeed.
That just made my day! :up:

[Decay]

I'm not at all a Scott fan...in fact I hate him. But still I felt so sorry for his death...he shouldn't have died like that.

[Optic Rage]

lol those are really tight jeans....

[ginny_weasley]

LadyVader's pics just gave me an idea....

*runs to gif thread*....

[LadyVader]

Hey, I want an avvy with the bulge. I'm the first one who noticed it, I deserve it. :)

The avvy i mean.
Not the bulge.

Uhm. Yeah. :rolleyes:

[CapBeerCino]

Hey, I want an avvy with the bulge. I'm the first one who noticed it, I deserve it. :)

The avvy i mean.
Not the bulge.

Uhm. Yeah. :rolleyes:

Lol, that was very DoD of you :p

[LadyVader]

That was very Darknessofdeath?

Hopefull DoD will have a an LV moment soon and we'll be even. Start swearing in some eastern european language. Like slovakian or something. :)

[fallenAngel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9V8y7xaPTI&search=x-men

very refreshing.

[Mike059jig]

indeed..I'll be watching now..Thanks

[Pizzaboy1138]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9V8y7xaPTI&search=x-men

very refreshing.

I wish I had the time to watch.

[Daniella]

Thanks, but I recorded it on my vcr, six years ago... Fox Brazil put it on ( the four episodes of Dark Phoenix ) before X1 premiere here...

Dany

[Daniella]

Oh Really? ... Send me the comic :p lol

I can't... I don't know what magazine this is from... I read it on some other forum, but they can confirm it...

Dany

[DarknessOfDeath]

That was very Darknessofdeath?

Hopefull DoD will have a an LV moment soon and we'll be even. Start swearing in some eastern european language. Like slovakian or something. :)

... Excuse me?

[MsNatchios]

- Why did Xavier easily dismiss Cyclops off to run the school, while in X1 had that great scene of showing Cyclops willing and able to take over Xavier's place if something should happen to him

* See above. Also, we wanted to give Storm a leadership position, as she hasn't had much to do. It made sense given that Scott is being driven crazy by psychic calls from Jean. (And by the way, the implication is not that Scott is a crying baby; the implication is that Jean is trying to contact him and it's driving him nuts.) People who say Cyke comes off weak in his brief time in the film are not being fair to the movie.

- Why did Cyclops only have interaction with only 2 characters, Jean and Logan?

* See above.

- Why did storm not say anything about Cyclops during Xavier's funeral?

* She did at one point, but it made the earlier problem we discussed all the more glaring. Also, the X-Men are never completely sure what happened to him. They only have the glasses and Jean's reaction; no body, etc.
Okay I don't see a guy who is honest about what he was "forced" to do with Cyclops's character. I see a tool who's covering his own ***.

He had to kill Cyclops because there was no way around it. Right. :rolleyes:

Singer had written it from the beginning that Cyclops's role would be usurped by Wolverine. Right :rolleyes:

I find it funny that he claims Wolverine was a more popular character so they had to tell his story all 3 movies and then goes on to state that "these aren't the comics, it's the movies". Then when someone says that X3 is made for non-X-men fans and Wolverine fans he gets all upset and argues how it isn't. Um, aren't we contradicting ourselves, Zak?

He indirectly says that Cyclops's lack of screen time is the result of office politics yet defends his precious script every chance he gets. I think at one point he wanted to flat out call Cyke fans rabid psychopaths but held back.

I hope he and Simon write the Wolverine screenplay and Ratner directs.

[Optic Rage]

I thought i was the only one who thought his reply was a weak attempt at covering up.

[peteapan]

Very weak. Singer set up for the Pheonix saga perfectly, Wolverines arc was concluded and Cyke was the man she chose with the X-Kids ready to step up and make this film a proper team film with Scott and if they really had to, to a lesser degree Storm leading. They undone all the good X2 did with their lame arse Wolverine butt licking and studio politics

[Pizzaboy1138]

They undone all the good X2 did with their lame arse Wolverine butt licking and studio politics

They screwed up, period.

[mastercko]

Hey everyone, I was just reading through this thread. I am a major Cyke fan and I was very VERY pissed off at X3, to say the least. Anyway, just about the only way for X4 (if it ever comes to be) to do right by Cyclops is the Cyke, Havok and Sinister story mentioned before or something similar

OR

Cyclops is remade as War, Horseman of Apocalypse

yeah. that would be pretty sweet. Maybe they'll make him a good leader character if he leads the opposing team.

Oh, BTW, the treatment of Cyclops in the comics isn't completely bad. Whedon's does smack of setting him up to be brought back cooler and more awesome than ever (I really like how he handled him in the first Astonishing run, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here). Also, I think that the treatment of Cyke as tortured leader in an ugly war is done very well in Chris Claremont's X-men: The End (I'm pretty sure that's where the mansion is completely wiped off the planet, I'm not sure). Oh, and the long-lost Summers brother story (of Deadly Genesis) is weak at best, completely ignorable at worst. I swear to God, if Cyke is killed by Emma as Phoenix in this new storyline and it sticks, I'm going to stop buying X-men comics right there and draw my own, heh. I really dislike how much people like to kick Cyclops in the crotch lately, as far as storylines go.

[Optic Rage]

No chance is hell we will be seeing scott IN x4.

[peteapan]

Nice idea, but look at his treatment up till now, If they cant think of a role for him in the pheonix saga then no chance of him having a role in any other film they spew out

[Cyke82]

Nice idea, but look at his treatment up till now, If they cant think of a role for him in the pheonix saga then no chance of him having a role in any other film they spew out

Ain't that the truth.

[Downhere]

Nice idea, but look at his treatment up till now, If they cant think of a role for him in the pheonix saga then no chance of him having a role in any other film they spew out

Unfortunately that is so true.

[sonicphoto]

Oh fine so you want him death? I mean I would have not bother if Cyclops barely appeared ONX3 that's okay but dying is too much. I just want him back because it messed up my toughts with X3. If he returns in an X4 then I will stop commenting about the mess of X3 but if he stays dead then I would still say X3 is messed up and the fact is that I haven't read any of this comics I only saw the movies and became a fan ever since, but I just think that a character like him shouldn't die. I was imagining that maybe on this film it was more about Jean and Cyclops but when I saw the trailers I obviously knew I was wrong and I was already imagining he would die because he barely appears on the trailers. I will think that X3 never existed unless they fix that mess on X4.

[Downhere]

The question is not if we ant him to stay dead, the question is will Fox bring him back...they don't care about the fans and only brought him back to kill him so...hmm...that is why there is no optimism toward bringing back Cyke.

[ginny_weasley]

Nice idea, but look at his treatment up till now, If they cant think of a role for him in the pheonix saga then no chance of him having a role in any other film they spew out

Yep, this was Cyke's chance to shine, and got completely screwed.

Fox couldn't want him out of there fast enough. He was a threat to Wolverine and had to be eliminated.

[fallenAngel]

Yep, this was Cyke's chance to shine, and got completely screwed.

Fox couldn't want him out of there fast enough. He was a threat to Wolverine and had to be eliminated.

This I think is the real reason Gambit hasn't been brought in.

[Hulkster]

Yep, this was Cyke's chance to shine, and got completely screwed.

Fox couldn't want him out of there fast enough. He was a threat to Wolverine and had to be eliminated.

Cyclops was a threat to Wolverine and Mr. Sinister.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8631/sinister9lc.th.jpg (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sinister9lc.jpg)

[jusblaze21]

Very weak. Singer set up for the Pheonix saga perfectly, Wolverines arc was concluded and Cyke was the man she chose with the X-Kids ready to step up and make this film a proper team film with Scott and if they really had to, to a lesser degree Storm leading. They undone all the good X2 did with their lame arse Wolverine butt licking and studio politics

I agree. Really makes me curious of what Singer would have done with X3. I guess we'll never no.:o :(

[ginny_weasley]

This I think is the real reason Gambit hasn't been brought in.
Wow, I hadn't thought of that either - but it makes complete sense. :eek:


Nice manip Hulkster. :up:

[Hulkster]

They care about Gambit, but there's no love for Cyclops:(

Thanks ginny

Here is another manip.:)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/497/sinister5jj.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sinister5jj.jpg)

[gambitfire]

I thought i was the only one who thought his reply was a weak attempt at covering up.

HELLO IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE LIKE 3 PAGES AGO!!!! The guys a Hypocrite.

He already made some stupid statement on we knew from X1 that Wolverine would take Scott's glory.

Which makes sense since Jean chose Scott in X2 :rolleyes:

At first i thought he was a nice guy but now its seem likes he's speaking out of his ass trying to defend what he did while opposing *coughsHypocrite*

W/e i don't entirely blame him for what happened to Scott.

[Bishop2]

I agree. Really makes me curious of what Singer would have done with X3. I guess we'll never no.:o :(

We know he wanted to do X3 and X4 back to back. We know that he promised Jimmy a much bigger role in the next film. We know that he said the X-Men would face "evolution itself" (which could be code for talking about Phoenix?). We know that a "summary treatment" of X3 (you know, one of those 5-to-10 page jobbies) was written up by him and one of his buddies. Sadly, it'll probably be a good 10 years before he ever tells us about what else he had planned.

[Bishop2]

Fun little smiley of cyke turning his little visor-knob all the way up to 11. :)

http://pics.livejournal.com/kalahara/pic/000p35qa

[gambitfire]

Fun little smiley of cyke turning his little visor-knob all the way up to 11. :)

http://pics.livejournal.com/kalahara/pic/000p35qa

:eek: ..................................SAVE!!

[fallenAngel]

Fun little smiley of cyke turning his little visor-knob all the way up to 11. :)

http://pics.livejournal.com/kalahara/pic/000p35qa

very cool. You know it's very telling how much Cyclops means to the X men by the fact that the two X men smileys here are Cyke and Wolverine. :wolverine:cyclops:

but wow, Logan is much bigger. Yikes.

[CapBeerCino]

very cool. You know it's very telling how much Cyclops means to the X men by the fact that the two X men smileys here are Cyke and Wolverine. :wolverine:cyclops:

but wow, Logan is much bigger. Yikes.

It's not about the size :o :p

[Downhere]

It's not about the size :o :p

lol.

[LadyVader]

It's not about the size :o :p

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/bulgeaction2.jpg

yes it is. :)

[CapBeerCino]

yes it is. :)

LMAO :D

Thank god for having other girls on this thread! :cyclops:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

LMAO :D

Thank god for having other girls on this thread! :cyclops:
Always! Us girls must stay united.

[ILuvCyclops]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/Poze%20cu%20yours%20truly/bulgeaction2.jpg

yes it is. :)


Heh Heh Heh, first laugh i've had in a long time! thank you, lol. :up: :D

[ILuvCyclops]

I don't know if this has been posted before, I thought it was a little sad but cute at the same time.

James Marsden Shed Real Tears (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/05/16/x_men_s_james_marsden_cried_real_tears_o)

[britrogue]

Oh, that is so sweet

[CapBeerCino]

I don't know if this has been posted before, I thought it was a little sad but cute at the same time.

James Marsden Shed Real Tears (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/05/16/x_men_s_james_marsden_cried_real_tears_o)

It was but without the link. Very sweet! :O

[LadyVader]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HUTsDvdLI

*sobs*

EDIT: Just ignore the french speaking in the begining.

[ILuvCyclops]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av0Gsnjn5jw

It's Witchcraft :D

Want to find him singing "Kick In The Head."

[ILuvCyclops]

Oh yeah and found Lady Is A Tramp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfYksHIUduc

[LadyVader]

It is so ironic. Up until now I couldn't care less about James Marsden, but ever since X3 I've been coming here to complain about the movie and how he was treated and all that and I've found out so much about him that I'm actually turning into a fan. :)

EDIT: yeah but Always on my mind is such an appropiate song for Scott and Jean. Still my favourite. :)

[ILuvCyclops]

Yeah it's my favorite too, he sings it so well. I always wonder why he wasn't on the Ally McBeal cds like Robert Downey Jr was. He's such a great singer!

[CapBeerCino]

Weird pic...

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7311/157zr.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/194/161ec.jpg

[Nathan]

It is so ironic. Up until now I couldn't care less about James Marsden, but ever since X3 I've been coming here to complain about the movie and how he was treated and all that and I've found out so much about him that I'm actually turning into a fan. :)

Heh, same here. Thanks to the movies totally neglecting Cyclops, I'm slowly turning from a Wolverine fan into a Cyclops fan.

[phillip phonix]

i if im honest are not a fan of cyclops, he just dosent appeal to me. but the x men would not be the same without him, even thoew i love the new movie, i think i might like it better than x2 but only because of jean, killing of cyclops was a bad move, i can understand him not being in the last battel hell i can understand him being killed, but there was no emotional deaph to his death, with the exception of jean. non of the team seamed to botherd or affected by his death. why would fox do this i wounder?

[ILuvCyclops]

I was always a Cyclops fan! lol! But I hadn;t really paid attention to anything over the last few months, but now after what happened in X3, I am starting to get interested again. Watching Interstate 60 just now :D

[CapBeerCino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av0Gsnjn5jw

It's Witchcraft :D


Bless you! Been looking for that! :up:

[ILuvCyclops]

You're welcome! :D

[Dr. Fate]

If they ever decide to do Mister Sinister in the films, do you think they'll remember that Sinister is obsessed with Cyclops or will they change it to make Sinister obsessed with Wolverine?

[DarknessOfDeath]

LOL :rolleyes: Then I guess i'll have to kill someone at Fox so they get it right :p

[ILuvCyclops]

^ Lol :D

[DarknessOfDeath]

and Famke certainly agrees :p hehehe. lol

[ILuvCyclops]

It would be good to see Sinister in the movies, but they would have to get Scott for it! He could be alive, no body. I know it's all been discussed before. But they need Scott, because if Sinister was in it with no Scott then poor Sinister would be so upset and depressed. Poor Sinister :( lol

[CapBeerCino]

It would be good to see Sinister in the movies, but they would have to get Scott for it! He could be alive, no body. I know it's all been discussed before. But they need Scott, because if Sinister was in it with no Scott then poor Sinister would be so upset and depressed. Poor Sinister :( lol

Phoenix saga without Cyclops so nothing can surprise me.

[ILuvCyclops]

Ahh, very true!

[pedro parkero]

Oh, BTW, the treatment of Cyclops in the comics isn't completely bad. Whedon's does smack of setting him up to be brought back cooler and more awesome than ever (I really like how he handled him in the first Astonishing run, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here). Also, I think that the treatment of Cyke as tortured leader in an ugly war is done very well in Chris Claremont's X-men: The End (I'm pretty sure that's where the mansion is completely wiped off the planet, I'm not sure). Oh, and the long-lost Summers brother story (of Deadly Genesis) is weak at best, completely ignorable at worst. I swear to God, if Cyke is killed by Emma as Phoenix in this new storyline and it sticks, I'm going to stop buying X-men comics right there and draw my own, heh. I really dislike how much people like to kick Cyclops in the crotch lately, as far as storylines go.

Yeah. Don't anybody notice that Scott is the mutant with Parker's luck?

I'm a fan of both Cyclops and Spidey, by the way. And still hasn't watched X3 for lack of trying...

[CapBeerCino]

People are still voting in the thread poll - that's knid of cheating :p

[CapBeerCino]

And still hasn't watched X3 for lack of trying...

Don't feel bad.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I voted... but man this gif is taking forever to do...

[CapBeerCino]

What gif?

[Pizzaboy1138]

I voted... but man this gif is taking forever to do...

What did you vote? He went on a vacation?

[DarknessOfDeath]

I can't remember now...

oh and hey... have you seen this?

http://www.xzgames.com/tn1/37/famke_janssen_i_spy_01.jpg
lol...

[Pizzaboy1138]

oh and hey... have you seen this?

http://www.xzgames.com/tn1/37/famke_janssen_i_spy_01.jpg
lol...

Is that Famke?

[CapBeerCino]

Is that Famke?

If it looks like Famke, sound like Famke and DoD posted it... :D

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yes it is... and I listened to the commentary and it mention that she was the one who picked those...panties out herself...

heh. but um yeah... thats her.

[cyke93]

james does have a nice singing voice

[DarknessOfDeath]

He does...

[Pizzaboy1138]

Yes it is... and I listened to the commentary and it mention that she was the one who picked those...panties out herself...


White cotton panties. Nice. lol

[CapBeerCino]

james does have a nice singing voice

That was random yet true :)

[cyke93]

just read some more stuff over at xverse... ::sigH:;.. we can never win.

[DarknessOfDeath]

White cotton panties. Nice. lol

Yup... I'd like to see Famke more in those kind of action roles. lol as a secret agent... not bad.

[CapBeerCino]

just read some more stuff over at xverse... ::sigH:;.. we can never win.

What did you read?

[DarknessOfDeath]

yeah. what did you read?

[Pizzaboy1138]

??? What's going on?

[CapBeerCino]

??? What's going on?

Cyclops was screwed in x-3 and Logan took over his part. (In a nutshell) :p

[Pizzaboy1138]

Cyclops was screwed in x-3 and Logan took over his part. (In a nutshell) :p

:p:p:p

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well of course.

[ILuvCyclops]

Yeah and it was ugly!! lol

[Bishop2]

just read some more stuff over at xverse... ::sigH:;.. we can never win.
There's new stuff? What's up?

I just read the early draft of X-Men that's available on movie-page.com's script area... wow, Cyclops comes off as a total loser dick in that version. I'm glad there were additional rewrites. Also interesting is the fact that Mystique and Magneto are TOTALLY getting it on.