View Full Version : Official Cyclops/marsden Thread
Mike059jig
06-11-2006, 10:48 PM
I don't how far u got in x-factor..so I don't wanna spoil anything....I can defend him in that situation...
fallenAngel
06-11-2006, 11:03 PM
If anyone's interested:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5315/1ff2pj.gif
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1753/1ff20ch.gif
I really don't understand why they didn't use him more. His power is so visually interesting, second probably only to Storm. and it's a pretty simple effect.
the sound of his blast is different in every movie though, I think X2 is my favorite.
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:15 PM
I really don't understand why they didn't use him more. His power is so visually interesting, second probably only to Storm. and it's a pretty simple effect.
the sound of his blast is different in every movie though, I think X2 is my favorite.
I know, it would have been so cool to see him blasting Brotherhood members back left and right at the end battle in X3. Alas, it was not meant to be.
Bishop2
06-11-2006, 11:20 PM
This has probably been asked a million times, but... at the end of X2, why didn't Scott just BLOW THE RAMP open whenever Storm couldn't get it to lower, and then go get Jean? What was stopping him? Nobody ever said not to, and it's not like the plane hadn't already survived having ONE hole punched through it earlier in the movie.
oneteen
06-11-2006, 11:27 PM
Maybe Jean was stopping him like the way she stopped Kurt. And he knew better than to cause a rukus.
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:28 PM
I'm sure if he blew open the ramp door, he possibly could have damaged the jet, therby endangering the whole team. That's what I thought, at least.
oneteen
06-11-2006, 11:29 PM
I really don't understand why they didn't use him more. His power is so visually interesting, second probably only to Storm. and it's a pretty simple effect.
the sound of his blast is different in every movie though, I think X2 is my favorite.
X2 is my fav too! And I think in X3 when he took off his glasses made more of a raw/free sound to it, rather than in X2 when his visor was sort of a silencer.
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:30 PM
Oh, and I forgot, Magneto wouldn't have been there to fix the hole had he blown one in it the second time.
oneteen
06-11-2006, 11:40 PM
Yeah, if he had hit the X-jet and brought Jean back, it wouldn't be operational.
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:41 PM
http://gjeanmarc.free.fr/vo/xmen/44.jpg
This was another cool issue. Cyclops was stuck in the middle of a desert with a ragtag group (some of them were Acolytes, if I remember correctly), and he led them safely to a former X-Man outpost. At one point, a mountain is in their way and one of the Acolytes says something about it would take forever to get around it. Cyclops says something to the effect of, "The shortest distance between two points is a straight line", then blasts a hole through the mountain for them to walk through. Cool stuff.
Farren
06-11-2006, 11:46 PM
Ok, realize this is an x2 pic, but...
does anyone have a larger version of this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/2e7d900c.jpg
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:53 PM
http://www.itsvery.net/X2/Cyclops.jpg
Bishop2
06-11-2006, 11:54 PM
http://www.itsvery.net/X2/Cyclops.jpg
Aiieeeee doesn't work, no direct linking allowed.
Optic Blast
06-11-2006, 11:55 PM
Oops, my bad.
jcykeson
06-12-2006, 12:54 AM
cyke was always perceived as a superb leader, but a very flawed character.. so i don't really blame him though i dislike his irresponsibility regarding his personal life.. but that makes him all the more human too..
say, i don't remember he taking that baton and whacking those guards in X2?
Farren
06-12-2006, 12:57 AM
^^^yeah it was cut i believe. :O
gambitfire
06-12-2006, 01:26 AM
i remember his marriage was on the rocks before he left Madelyne.
oneteen
06-12-2006, 02:02 AM
^^^yeah it was cut i believe. :O
They enjoy cutting scenes with Cyke in them. Like in X1 as well. :down
Farren
06-12-2006, 02:04 AM
They enjoy cutting scenes with Cyke in them. Like in X1 as well. :down
Fox = sadists
but in all seriousness...I really don't get why the guard pwnage had to get cut.
oneteen
06-12-2006, 02:06 AM
Maybe it was shot and then was just not used.
jcykeson
06-12-2006, 03:28 AM
^ yeah, FOX was like.. "damn, cyke looks way cooler than wolverine in melee battle... let's make him more wussy..."
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 04:16 AM
Ok, realize this is an x2 pic, but...
does anyone have a larger version of this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/2e7d900c.jpg
What? They cut what little fighting he got to do!?
:mad: Why isn't it on the dvd then?
britrogue
06-12-2006, 04:39 AM
They seriously didn't like Cyke. It sucks.
Nathan
06-12-2006, 04:47 AM
That scene probably was cut to make the movie flow better, because they had to show Deathstrike getting up again while he's beating on the guard. If they didn't have to focus on Deathstrike in that moment, I'm sure the scene would've still been in there. After all, after he beat the guard down you can see Cyclops letting go of the club he had in his hands.
What i wished the ending of X3 was Cyclops in the forest at Alkalai Lake shooting his beam in the air at maximum power yelling SINESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And fade to black
What i wished the ending of X3 was Cyclops in the forest at Alkalai Lake shooting his beam in the air at maximum power yelling SINESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And fade to black
Why would he do that? How would he know Sinister since he wasn't mentioned before in all three movies? Makes no sense.
cyke93
06-12-2006, 05:38 AM
hey everyone, whats going on? .. im kinda been busy interning in france .. i see no new news about cyke hehe.. he still screwed over ..lol
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 05:45 AM
i see no new news about cyke hehe.. he still screwed over ..lol
Surprising, I know. :o
UraniaChang
06-12-2006, 05:46 AM
(Sorry I am new here, and English isn't my native language.)Haven't seen X3 yet......cause it's not even available in where I live till 16 June. Though I Know that there won't be much screentime of Cyclops I still will go to see it.........Yes, spend the money on the ticket just for ten-minutes Cyclops.......I really wish the film studio should listen to what other people truly think. American comics are not quite popular in Taiwan, but there're still some small groups of fans here, and most importantly, most of us like Cyclops more than Wolverine.......I think even Magneto gets more fans than Wolverine, maybe they should change the X3 movie subtitle for "Hugh and Halley's Big Adventures".........at least that's what we call it in Taiwan. Ah, and I do like the way James Marsden plays Cyclops, he becomes my favorite actor since X1.
And, since people here seem to know more about the X Men History(Comics I mean.), can anyone kindly tell me which storyline has best part of Cyclops in it? Cause there are so many-The Ultimate X Men, Uncanny X Men, New X Men.......that really confuse me. And I'm so tired of having to ask the clerk "Please just point out which one has Cyclops in it!"
Thanks.:)
cyke93
06-12-2006, 05:52 AM
Surprising, I know. :o
im absolutely shocked.. but not by the x3 box office take.. o well back to work .. a plus tarde !
This would introduce us into x4.
In X4 we would find out that the the cure was a plot for mutants to use their powers to eliminate humans(a la The Last Stand) and whoever was going to come out of the battle humans vs. mutants, they would face either Sinister or even Apocalypse. Since niether side truly anailhilated each other the two all-powerful mutants would join to take over mankind.
The story would take place a few years after X3,when a rebilitated Magneto(who still hasn't got his full mutant powers back) gained sovereignty by the UN of the mutant paradise of Genosha. So the plan by Apocalypse would be to destroy the nation with the help of trusty Sentinals.
Finally cyclops gets the leading role he deserves, when he suddenly meets his long lost brother Alex and we meet Madelyne Pryor whom he is not sure of but has a child with anyway Nathan (in which Sinister kidnappes) and in the end he yells SINISTER!!! at the top of his lungs instead of X3.
It sounds great but the way it would be written would make a movie like that long 140 mins. plus and expensive 300 mil. plus. but who gives a ****.
Instead of Cyclops heading the show, Gambit actually makes an apperence and truly helps save the day. Unlike X3, there won't be an overload of characters but there will be new additions: Havok, Gambit, and just maybe Polaris. Maybe the mansion will be destroyed, Wolverine will finally get a smaller role, and Colossus will get more than three lines and might go toe to toe against Juggernaut and they'll get Storm to shut the **** up.
This is just an abbrieviated outline of this future X4 and since this is just in its early stages the working title is X-Men 4 Children of the Atom
release date:May 9, 2009.
peteapan
06-12-2006, 06:25 AM
This would introduce us into x4.
In X4 we would find out that the the cure was a plot for mutants to use their powers to eliminate humans(a la The Last Stand) and whoever was going to come out of the battle humans vs. mutants, they would face either Sinister or even Apocalypse. Since niether side truly anailhilated each other the two all-powerful mutants would join to take over mankind.
The story would take place a few years after X3,when a rebilitated Magneto(who still hasn't got his full mutant powers back) gained sovereignty by the UN of the mutant paradise of Genosha. So the plan by Apocalypse would be to destroy the nation with the help of trusty Sentinals.
Finally cyclops gets the leading role he deserves, when he suddenly meets his long lost brother Alex and we meet Madelyne Pryor whom he is not sure of but has a child with anyway Nathan and in the end he yells SINISTER!!! at the top of his lungs instead of X3.
It sounds great but the way it would be written would make a movie like that long 140 mins. plus and expensive 250 mil. plus. but who gives a ****.
Instead of Cyclops heading the show, Gambit actually makes an apperence and truly helps save the day. Unlike X3, there won't be an overload of characters but there will be new additions: Havok, Gambit, and just maybe Polaris. Maybe the mansion will be destroyed, Wolverine will finally get a smaller role, and Colossus will get more that three lines and might go toe to toe against Juggernaut and the'll get Storm to shut the **** up.
This is just an abbrieviated outline of this future X4 and since this is just in its early stages the working title is X-Men 4 Children of the Atom
release date:May 9, 2009.
sounds.... interesting
GuestStar2004
06-12-2006, 06:37 AM
sounds good, but why does it sound sooo unlikely!
Thanks petapan,
If they never develop any X4,they could create some t.v. show unlike Mutant X (which was bull****)
the reason it sounds so unlikely is beacause it's too of good an idea which the writers of X3 were out of.
P.S. wouldn't been beter if they pushed back X3 a month or two so Jimmy Marsden would fit the schedule better, plus I felt the film was a bit rushed.
Just my opinon
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 06:53 AM
the reason it sounds so unlikely is beacause it's too of good an idea which the writers of X3 were out of.
P.S. wouldn't been beter if they pushed back X3 a month or two so Jimmy Marsden would fit the schedule better, plus I felt the film was a bit rushed.
Just my opinon
We all know by now the 'Jimmy schedule' is bs.
And in my opinon 'a bit rushed' is an understatement. the film was a collection of scenes that didn't work well on their own or as a whole.
peteapan
06-12-2006, 06:59 AM
We all know by now the 'Jimmy schedule' is bs.
And in my opinon 'a bit rushed' is an understatement. the film was a collection of scenes that didn't work well on their own or as a whole.
ah so true. Instead of trying to make the best xmen film they could to beat superman at the box office they thought the best option was to dish up any pile of muck as long as it was a few months before the WB film to rack up enough the dosh
What if X-Men was released in Christmas 2000 instead of July and picture X3 released around the holiday season, then we'd get a more better film instead of this mess we have now.
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 07:22 AM
i remember his marriage was on the rocks before he left Madelyne.
Yeah, because of his fixation on dead Jean. Cyke was such a dummo.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 07:26 AM
but madelyne did look like Jean...man what dummo...
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 07:29 AM
but madelyne did look like Jean...man what dummo...
Well, she was a redhead who kinda resembled Jean at first... but later on they retconned her into being an exact clone... which did kinda make it more understandable that he couldn't really let go of Jean.
I dunno, I liked Maddie's personality when she first introduced. She was a lot of fun, very down-to-earth. I would rather be with her than serious-faced Jean. ;)
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 07:51 AM
Well, she was a redhead who kinda resembled Jean at first... but later on they retconned her into being an exact clone... which did kinda make it more understandable that he couldn't really let go of Jean.
I dunno, I liked Maddie's personality when she first introduced. She was a lot of fun, very down-to-earth. I would rather be with her than serious-faced Jean. ;)
What are you doing here? Back to writing your fic! people are waiting you know :p
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 07:53 AM
Well, she was a redhead who kinda resembled Jean at first... but later on they retconned her into being an exact clone... which did kinda make it more understandable that he couldn't really let go of Jean.
I dunno, I liked Maddie's personality when she first introduced. She was a lot of fun, very down-to-earth. I would rather be with her than serious-faced Jean. ;)
I take both any day ;)
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 09:44 AM
Even Emma frost dresses up as a red head for him....
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 09:49 AM
... Thats sick man.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 09:53 AM
She does it in his mind..like when she first seduced him...I sounds sick but she doesn't do it all the time....And she's actually is in love him....even though she's the dominant one in the relationship
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 09:54 AM
and Jean doesn't? ... hmph.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 09:58 AM
No really jean isn't aggressive with her telepath like emma is she can be, she doesn't...which is a reason they kinda not together...he wanted her to read his mind but she didn't....so he went to emma and found something different
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 10:03 AM
bastard...
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 10:05 AM
I was too general with my post..he went to emma for marriage help...I hope the B isn't for the guy in my avatar...
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 10:05 AM
edit
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 10:10 AM
say what? ... I wanna see Jean get her revenge on Emma and scott... I wanna some Kung fu or Judo ... whatever you call that. man.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 10:13 AM
Jean did get revenge..when she ran in on them in Bed...(in their Mind)..after she mind raped emma and made her admit things she kept secret...she made emma cry
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 10:15 AM
hahahahahaha. Emma asked for it though. then what happened? Did she take Scott back? cause ...c'mon. thats kinda stupid.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 10:20 AM
No scott said she was way out of line.....first jean asked Scott if he slept with emma on the mission in hong kong...in that issue emma came with a bottle of champagne and two glasses in the middle of the night.....jean tried to see what happened in emma's mind and scott blasted through the door and told jean to read his mind and he and emma didn't do anything physically.......he insisted that what emma and him did was just all thoughts..Jean just got mad they were actually thinking bout it...Then he ran out the mansion to the hell fire strip club
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 10:35 AM
... like that would ever solve the problem.
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 11:49 AM
Emma was dressing up as a redhead and even wearing the Phoenix costume because she said she was trying to provide relationship therapy to Scott and make him attracted to Jean again, since their marriage was having problems.
Of course, later on she admitted that she was totally in love with him like whoa. Big surprise, yeah right.
Anyway, Jean and Scott did ultimately reconcile and get back together. Emma was traumatized and wound up in the infirmary for a while. Then Jean died and eventually Scott got together with Emma, because I guess he has a thing for telepaths. :confused: ;)
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 12:09 PM
Jean should never have taken him back if or knowing she'd die later on and he and emma hook up. so wrong...kinda messed up too.
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I didn't like Scott that much in New X-Men.
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 12:13 PM
I just looked it up and I guess I stand corrected - Jean and Scott only reconciled in the issue where she died, so they didn't really "get back together" per se. Ah well.
Apparently, Phoenix: Endsong claims that Jean actually MADE Scott fall in love with Emma by using her phoenix powers to alter his mind. She did this so that he wouldn't leave the X-Men after she died, because she saw the future and knew that if he left the X-Men, the world would be destroyed. So she made him love Emma so he had a reason to stay. Ummmm, okay.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 12:14 PM
Jean was having her own problem with the pheonix force and her......Scott did reject Emma..then jean woke up in the future and it was apocalytic future everything was destroyed even Xaviers dream....Jean reached back in time to Push scott over his grief and put him together with emma to make him happy..and keep the future from being bad...New x-men Cyclops was fine too me
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 12:16 PM
Jean was having her own problem with the pheonix force and her......Scott did reject Emma..then jean woke up in the future and it was apocalytic future everything was destroyed even Xaviers dream....Jean reached back in time to Push scott over his grief and put him together with emma to make him happy..and keep the future from being bad...New x-men Cyclops was fine too me
That's pretty wack.
Man, I don't think I like Jean's powers being so all-encompassing.
D-scythe
06-12-2006, 02:32 PM
Personally speaking, ever since Grant Morrison took over writing New X-men, Cyclops and Jean were basically doomed. Pre-Morrison, Scott Summers was the madly in love, adoring, doting husband that many people are familiar with ;)
Also, those were the times I enjoyed reading about Scott the most as well. But I still think that in the end, under lotsa retcons and complicated storylines, Scott will probably end up being with Jean again. It might take two decades to get there, but I'm thinking it'll happen.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 02:36 PM
probably when they're like 80 years old...old and wrinkley....
Haha. Comic book characters don't get old and wrinkley . . . they'll be younger looking than us in 40 years.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Really? ... okay what about the cover of "The search for Scott" ? ... is that Jean on the cover...somewhat...naked? ... cause she kinda resembles Famke...cause of her nose... -shrugs- I wonder where I can get that issue cause I wanna read more about this "Search for Scott" ...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 03:34 PM
Really? ... okay what about the cover of "The search for Scott" ? ... is that Jean on the cover...somewhat...naked? ... cause she kinda resembles Famke...cause of her nose... -shrugs- I wonder where I can get that issue cause I wanna read more about this "Search for Scott" ...
You can get them on ebay, i found them pretty hard to get at first. There's two different covers for each issue, well except issue 4. But they're a good read :)
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 03:35 PM
... again...is that Jean with Scott having sex with her on the cover? :p
whoo the seX-man...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 03:37 PM
I have no idea, lol, it doesn't feature in the comics. But by the look on Jean's face.....I guess you could say yes! lol :)
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 03:38 PM
... I just hope to Phoenix that its not Emma... aaaaaaah. ... er... It better be Jean...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 03:41 PM
Lol, it is Jean. Atleast I think it is or I have been tricked! lol
lordofthenerds
06-12-2006, 03:47 PM
Why is the poll persisting on this thread, the movies been out for over 3 weeks and the saddest part is people are still voting on him surviving...I know the movie treated his death like the murder of an insect, but its still sad that the poll is alive and controversial.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 03:50 PM
we don't need to turn this into an ugly thread. :(
... So...whats your fave ... part of Scott?
I like his glasses and the funny shirts he wears...
taintedFB
06-12-2006, 03:51 PM
I think the future of the character is really up to us at this point. Fans CAN make a difference.
On TV:
Bottles of Tobasco Sauce from Roswell fans convinced the network to renew the series.
A year long letter writing campaign convinced Star Trek The NExt generation to bring back Gates McFaddden as Dr. Beverly Crusher after they had replaced her in season 2.
I don't have movie examples except maybe JAR JAR BINKS beiing almost non existent after his first appearance in Episode 1.
Maybe we should organize something. Like have the same letter and assign people to send it to FOX so that we can ensure they get a letter everyday until we hear there will be an X4 and Marsden is signed on.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 03:59 PM
... I wasn't a fan of jar jar but i was happy he got less screentime in X2 ... I mean SW2 and much of a lesser role in X3...I mean SW3. lol ... whoa. heh.
it could work...Tainted...if done right.
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:03 PM
we don't need to turn this into an ugly thread. :(
... So...whats your fave ... part of Scott?
I like his glasses and the funny shirts he wears...
I like his trousers! lol!! That is style! ;)
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:08 PM
Here's the Search For Cyclops comics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Guigou/pics011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Guigou/pics012.jpg
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:10 PM
damn the last two covers (book 2 and book 3) are... uh a turn on. LOL :p
the only thing I don't like are the beetle-like eyes...eek. and whats that thing on her...forehead?
taintedFB
06-12-2006, 04:11 PM
Are we talking about Jimmy "Scott" or comic book "Scott"? And why are we even discussing this?
Although, techincally these are clothes and not "Parts of Scott".
Oh well. I like the hair in X3, a little longer and less groomed. And the stubble. I always skip a day or two to have that scruffy look. It's fun. Makes you look dangerous...LOL!
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:12 PM
okay okay... I like his eyes... and... I like his hair :D
LMason
06-12-2006, 04:13 PM
those videos on youtube of jimmy singing ....ahhhhhhh
taintedFB
06-12-2006, 04:13 PM
Those covers do have a certain "Erotic" quality to them. Like Romance NOvel covers, LOL!
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:14 PM
I think his eyes are like that coz it's a merger of Scott and Apocalypse and I'm guessing that is just part of Jean's costume, you know, maybe like no time to take it off, let's get down to business, lol!!
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:20 PM
Seriously... LOL ... ok thats the word...erotic. I've read some x-men erotic fics... though some of them aren't very pleasent cause some involved Scogan getting it on in the garage... I had to stop reading it cause yeah. It takes place during X2... after the scene when Logan says "The bike needs gas," and he tosses the keys at scott. "Fill her up..." and then he throws them back at him. lol and then scott gets pissed off in his bed after hearing the sound of a motorcycle and yeah before that, Scott couldn't stop thinking about Jean and so he was...uh...yeah -wink wink- and anyway he went down to the garage and he hit Logan and they went at it and then Scott stood up after Logan ... sensed Scott's...um ...hornyness.. and things went down hill after Scott... ... and thats when I stopped reading. LOL...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:24 PM
LOL! That sounds familiar.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:26 PM
oh really? care to fill me in since I didn't read the rest? :p :p
taintedFB
06-12-2006, 04:27 PM
BAD BAD BAD IMAGERY. DON'T GO THERE DOD!
Moving on to the future...
I think we should start an official letter writing campaign.
If someone can find out who exactly to send the letters to. We can all agree to mail letters asking for Scott (AND JIMMY, God forbid a recast!) back in X4.
If they get bombarded from different addresses all over the country and the world, they will realize Scott's popularity and that they couild have just as big a hit without Logan, because people aren't flocking to these movies for Wolverine, but for the X-Men as a team!
Is there an official Cyclops or MArsden fanclub that organize this worldwide, or do we have to do it ourselves?
lordofthenerds
06-12-2006, 04:27 PM
I like his motorcycle...that Wolverine steals.
Redeye_Marine
06-12-2006, 04:27 PM
I just looked it up and I guess I stand corrected - Jean and Scott only reconciled in the issue where she died, so they didn't really "get back together" per se. Ah well.
Apparently, Phoenix: Endsong claims that Jean actually MADE Scott fall in love with Emma by using her phoenix powers to alter his mind. She did this so that he wouldn't leave the X-Men after she died, because she saw the future and knew that if he left the X-Men, the world would be destroyed. So she made him love Emma so he had a reason to stay. Ummmm, okay.
Stupid question time. How is Scott not being apart of the X-Men going to actually affect the future? The movieverse obviously didn't seem to care about that little fact, and if Warsong is any indication Cyclops's fate is still looking pretty grim.
Farren
06-12-2006, 04:29 PM
Emma was dressing up as a redhead and even wearing the Phoenix costume because she said she was trying to provide relationship therapy to Scott and make him attracted to Jean again, since their marriage was having problems.
Of course, later on she admitted that she was totally in love with him like whoa. Big surprise, yeah right.
Anyway, Jean and Scott did ultimately reconcile and get back together. Emma was traumatized and wound up in the infirmary for a while. Then Jean died and eventually Scott got together with Emma, because I guess he has a thing for telepaths. :confused: ;)
See, this is where comics can start to bug me...I mean, seriously, the more they try to retconn and reinterpret things to make the pieces fit together...the weirder and more disturbing they get.
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:31 PM
BAD BAD BAD IMAGERY. DON'T GO THERE DOD!
Moving on to the future...
I think we should start an official letter writing campaign.
If someone can find out who exactly to send the letters to. We can all agree to mail letters asking for Scott (AND JIMMY, God forbid a recast!) back in X4.
If they get bombarded from different addresses all over the country and the world, they will realize Scott's popularity and that they couild have just as big a hit without Logan, because people aren't flocking to these movies for Wolverine, but for the X-Men as a team!
Is there an official Cyclops or MArsden fanclub that organize this worldwide, or do we have to do it ourselves?
Ah, true, I think you're on to something!!!
DOD i've pm-ed you about the story
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Ah, true, I think you're on to something!!!
DOD i've pm-ed you about the story
... ooookay... -gulps- :eek:
...
:(
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:37 PM
^^ LOL! Yeah....like that, lol. I was like that too, I was like, ever again and washed my eyes!!! lol!
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:44 PM
-purrs- suddenly, I feel an emptyness in my heart for Logan....that I don't reallly feel sorry for him at all. Maybe the whole Jean and Scott relationship is taking its toll on me. Cause thats whom I feel for the most... and I feel sorry for Scott and the way things have turned. It should have been the other way around...where Logan is assumed dead and Scott goes to Alkali Lake to find Jean unconcious on the ground and then he and Storm take her back to the mansion...then Jean wakes up and finds a kitty cat in her face...haha. lol. ... heh.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/normal_loveandsexcaps7.jpg
And yeah i know I know... but man...I find this erotic... think about it. I like the scruffy look of Scott... he looks dangerous ;) and Jean likes that in a guy... -shrugs- damn it...
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/JMSC.jpg
"Don't f*** with the Summers..."
lol :D
oi... imagine a steamy scene between them... and they're in their x-suits... oi.. okay. -slaps forehead- ...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:47 PM
LMAO!! That's a picture of Famke from Love and Sex isn't it? I love that movie, that bit with the kittens in the box is SOOO cute!!!
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Im getting love and sex on wednesday :D ... LOL ... funny. you know what I mean...the DVD :D :p im excited :p heh...
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 04:57 PM
LMAO!!!
It's a great film! I love it!! :D Have you seen it before?
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Here's the Search For Cyclops comics
Omg! Why don't I have a neighbor like you? :(
Between the giant Cyke poster and your comic books I'd never leave your house :D
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Stupid question time. How is Scott not being apart of the X-Men going to actually affect the future? The movieverse obviously didn't seem to care about that little fact, and if Warsong is any indication Cyclops's fate is still looking pretty grim.
The specifics are left vague - Jean looks into the future and sees that, without Scott's leadership to aid in the X-Men's battles, the world is a post-apocalyptic wasteland. So somehow, Scott is going to turn the tide of saving the world, apparently.
Obviously the movies are a separate dealie, but you can always pretend that they aren't and that Hugh Jackman's Wolverine is doomed to roam a wasteland because of how they let Scott die and didn't even care. Rock on. :p
I don't think anything bad will happen to Cyke in Warsong. Do you really believe those preview pages that show Scott dying on the FIRST PAGE of the FIRST ISSUE of the mini? I mean, c'mon. That'd never happen.
It's gotta be a dream sequence. Emma's probably just having nightmares.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 05:08 PM
yeah. I saw bit and pieces of it a long time ago. I think I saw the whole thing at some point but I do remember stuff from it... I remember in 2002. Its funny how I've seen more of her movies and not knowing who she was at the time or what her name was. lol its funny.
brb.
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Omg! Why don't I have a neighbor like you? :(
Between the giant Cyke poster and your comic books I'd never leave your house :D
It's just a pity that all of my friends hate Cyclops with a passion! I have a load of Cyclops things, Have this really nice poster of Cyclops and Jean. Hasn't been put up yet though. NIce t-shirt too, but It's totally coloured out so I normally wear it to bed, lol. And a couple of busts.
CapBeerCino
06-12-2006, 05:13 PM
It's just a pity that all of my friends hate Cyclops with a passion! I have a load of Cyclops things, Have this really nice poster of Cyclops and Jean. Hasn't been put up yet though. NIce t-shirt too, but It's totally coloured out so I normally wear it to bed, lol. And a couple of busts.
What's on the t-shirt?
The Batman
06-12-2006, 05:29 PM
http://scottandjean.com/
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 05:40 PM
What's on the t-shirt?
http://www.superherostuff.com/characters/X-Men/images/death_of_phoenix2.jpg
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 05:51 PM
http://scottandjean.com/
Lovely website :)
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 06:03 PM
Lovely indeed. :O
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 07:12 PM
It'd be better if it actually had content. :( They need to get to updating...
Picked up Phoenix: Endsong tonight. Let's see what I learn about Scott/Jean/Emma. :)
ILuvCyclops
06-12-2006, 07:15 PM
It'd be better if it actually had content. :( They need to get to updating...
Picked up Phoenix: Endsong tonight. Let's see what I learn about Scott/Jean/Emma. :)
Just read your latest chapter of your fic! It's great :up: Looking forward to reading more
Mar420x
06-12-2006, 07:28 PM
http://scottandjean.com/
great site. cant wait 2 see more. peace. :up:
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 07:32 PM
... I have the first part of Endsong... but then it says To be continue... where the guy says "Lets go to earth...and pray..." and then on flip side of the x-men issue, its got a few pages of the House of M and Astonishing X-Men where the x-men -even Emma (:rolleyes:) are fighting in the danger room...
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Just read your latest chapter of your fic! It's great :up: Looking forward to reading more
Thanks. :) I try to do a chapter a day on weekdays if I can.
Hmm, so, Phoenix: Endsong....
We're immediately introduced to the idea that the Phoenix needs SCOTT as much as it needs Jean. Interesting.
Four pages in, Scott/Jean lovers will get a kick out of Emma openly acknowledging that she'll never be the greatest love of Scott's life.
In a bit that I find downright hilarious, Logan is the first to find Jean back alive again, and he's... not really impressed at all. He doesn't even seem remotely surprised. He basically just tells her that he's "gettin' tired of killing you" and that she should "get scott to do your dirty work" next time. Heeee.
And that's issue #1.
So, onto issue #2.
Emma Frost = World's most understanding girlfriend. She goes into Scott's mind while making out with him, sees that he's fantasizing about making out with JEAN, and her response is "It's all right. You can't help where your mind wanders." Wow. I don't think there's a real-live woman on this earth who would be cool with that.
Hey, when did Cerebro get rechristened as "Cerebra"? :confused:
Hey, it's Kid Omega! And he isn't just dude with porcupine quills like in X3! :p
And uh, that's issue #2. Pretty much the halfway point then.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Thanks. :) I try to do a chapter a day on weekdays if I can.
Hmm, so, Phoenix: Endsong....
We're immediately introduced to the idea that the Phoenix needs SCOTT as much as it needs Jean. Interesting.
Four pages in, Scott/Jean lovers will get a kick out of Emma openly acknowledging that she'll never be the greatest love of Scott's life.
In a bit that I find downright hilarious, Logan is the first to find Jean back alive again, and he's... not really impressed at all. He doesn't even seem remotely surprised. He basically just tells her that he's "gettin' tired of killing you" and that she should "get scott to do your dirty work" next time. Heeee.
And that's issue #1.
So, onto issue #2.
Emma Frost = World's most understanding girlfriend. She goes into Scott's mind while making out with him, sees that he's fantasizing about making out with JEAN, and her response is "It's all right. You can't help where your mind wanders." Wow. I don't think there's a real-live woman on this earth who would be cool with that.
Hey, when did Cerebro get rechristened as "Cerebra"? :confused:
Hey, it's Kid Omega! And he isn't just dude with porcupine quills like in X3! :p
And uh, that's issue #2. Pretty much the halfway point then.
I have that issue... :D I need to get the second one. :(
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 08:06 PM
Issue 3 opens up with Emma desperately trying to talk to Jean by using Cerebra. Great little monologue.
"This is you, isn't it, Jean? Punishing me for my sins? All right. I stole your husband... but he's HAPPIER now, you understand that, don't you? You're practically INFINITE, part of the whole damned universe... can't you forgive me? Can't you just look look into my soul and see the... see the LOVE there? Jean? .... God, I sound like an idiot."
Four pages in, Scott talks about how things ended with Jean. - "I'll probably feel guilty over the way I handled my marriage with Jean 'til the day I die."
Another fun scene with Jean and Logan... Logan attempts to kill Jean roughly by impaling her SIX TIMES. Unfortunately, the Phoenix inside of her body isn't really letting it happen.
Um, that's pretty much everything that happens worth mentioning in #3.
Scott/Jean fans will HATE the cover of #4, which recreates the famous image of Scott in agony as he holds Jean's body... only now, he's holding Emma. Personally, I love it, of course. :p
So it's issue 4, and the Phoenix reveals that she needs to feed off of Scott's optic energy in order to maintain ultimate cosmic power. I'm not sure why she wouldn't just go to the sun or something, like she did in Dark Phoenix Saga...
...oh. Apparently, that's just what Phoenix is claiming is what she wants. Actually, she needs Scott's LOVE, because she's feeling Jean's longing for Scott. Awwwww.
Fantastic little monologue from Jean/Phoenix to Cyke: "I'm here, and always will be... with you and within you. You dreamed of me when you were an orphaned child. Your heart jumped the day we met. And you'll reach for my hand the day you die. I love you, Slim."
Cyke's plan? Kitty's hand is phased into his chest. If Phoenix takes one step closer to him, to try to use his optic blasts to feed... Kitty squeezes his heart into paste.
How awesome is that?! :eek: Good plan, Scott.
But of course, Emma shows up to save the day. And she offers to let the phoenix force possess her body. Ultimate self-sacrifice act, because she knows that as soon as it's in her, Beast clamps down the containment shell and it's done.
Of course, Cyclops... ever the noble hero... is the one who shoves her into the shell, clamping it down on BOTH of them. Ultimate Self-Sacrifice X2! :eek:
Time for Issue 5.
And of course, it doesn't work anyway because Emma isn't nearly as strong as Jean is, and she can't contain the Phoenix Force. So Emma goes ape**** and annihilates the shell and starts walloping the team. d'oh.
This is where things get really confusing... because the Phoenix Force has abandoned Jean's body, Jean is now frozen the in the ice below, seemingly dead... but Scott melts the ice with his blasts, and then suddenly Jean's alive again, because, according to Jean, the Phoenix is always her and she's always the Phoenix. They are each other. Errrrr. Okay.
So Jean goes up to Dark Emma and tells the Phoenix "Get out of that stupid body." Classic. :up: :)
Jean gets full up with Phoenix power again, and she starts to realize the insanity of it... she'll always come back to life, she'll always become Dark Phoenix, she'll always destroy the world...
So Scott and Emma give her all the love she can possibly handle. Emma and her three favorite students, the Stepford Cuckoos, use their telepathy to mentally contact EVERYONE WHO'S EVER BEEN AN X-MAN EVER. And they all pour out their feelings of love and and admiration for Jean. Yes, even Emma! :eek:
Emma and Jean both start to cry, overwhelmed by the love Jean is receiving through Emma. Emma is all "God, Jean, how does it feel... to be LOVED so much?" Phoenix is sated, the Shi'ar show up to shoot her just in case, and Jean closes the book on Phoenix yet again... but not before asking Scott to show her his eyes one last time. Which of course, he does. Cool.
Scott cries about how Jean saved them all again, and Emma talks about how Jean is so incredible, because she can still feel all the things people felt for her and all the things she did for the ones she loved, and basically everybody loves Jean, even the people who used to hate her, and then it ends.
Cliffhanger - The phoenix force visits the Stepford Cuckoos. CRAP.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 08:17 PM
..... Uh... damn thats why I hardly read the comics...they're confusing. plus theres so many alternate versions of the comics. its like which one should you FOLLOW!?! GAH. -shoots a few optic blasts at the confusion-
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 08:20 PM
Endsong is a great read...and sad ending....basically secured that pheonix will always be jean..Comics are good to read they aren't confusing once you know what to read...keep to the Canon titles only..alternative one are just mostly limited anyway
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 08:21 PM
Canon titles only?
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 08:26 PM
X-men have so many character they split into teams in three different books..X-men, Uncanny X-men, and Astonishing x-men...all Canons...Each book has a leader..Uncanny X-men-Nightcrawler Team ,X-men-havoks Team, Astonishingx-men--Cyclops team-best x-book to me on the market..I only keep up with Astonishing and thats it
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 08:48 PM
I have astonishing x-men just the first part... of it. they fight Danger room ... and if I remember, t heres a part when Emma walks away from the battle to...go pee...erm right okay. yeah I was reading it after i bought it and eating a the same time and when I read that, I had to set the issue down and look away and raise an eyebrow... LOL and yeah I dropped my food on my plate ... um yeah. lol it was somewhat disturbing...
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 08:56 PM
Oh u read astonishing 1-12 the cure and the danger arc...they continued it this year in february with # 13 and april with # 14 came out this year and I waiting for 15 to come out this month....It just keeps me wanting more its highly anticipated and Suspenseful..its just dangling if emma is goin evil or not..or just being munipulated
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 09:04 PM
the issue that i have ends with beast saying "Our ride is here..." or something like that...
Mar420x
06-12-2006, 09:06 PM
yea i have 2 agree and say astonishing x is the best xmen book out right now. ive dropped the other books due 2 my budget but i have 2 say this series is worth my money.i cant wait for the new issue @ the end of the month. i got the cure TPB in the beginning of the year and bought the single issues for danger arc. i got the limited edition cover for issue #7 with the team sketched in black & white and cyclops the only one in color. i have 2 say its one of my favorite all time covers. dont sleep on this series. rereading it has got me by after seeing x-men 3. lol. peace.
spsmartguy
06-12-2006, 09:07 PM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Bishop2
06-12-2006, 09:19 PM
I have astonishing x-men just the first part... of it. they fight Danger room ... and if I remember, t heres a part when Emma walks away from the battle to...go pee...erm right okay.
Heh... that's not a good issue to start on. And her departure IS explained in the whole thing. She doesn't go to go pee - she goes because she's summoned by the Hellfire bastiches who are monitoring her and trying to control her. I'm worried about where that's going.
Pick up Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, the story that the "cure" concept for the movie came from. Good stuff.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
Take it to another thread.
beccad5
06-12-2006, 09:21 PM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Well... that was depressing.
Mike059jig
06-12-2006, 09:23 PM
I hate people who just sign and their first post is just start hating.....Lurking around and they finally let it...then what..LOL
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 09:29 PM
Heh... that's not a good issue to start on. And her departure IS explained in the whole thing. She doesn't go to go pee - she goes because she's summoned by the Hellfire bastiches who are monitoring her and trying to control her. I'm worried about where that's going.
Pick up Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, the story that the "cure" concept for the movie came from. Good stuff.
Take it to another thread.
Oh... okay... well I know that she doesn't go pee...but it was ...the way I read it and while I was eating my supper at the same time was ...eek. I had to stop reading it...and then when I read more of it, I knew Emma was summoned ... but now that u mentioned the hellfire bastiches, it becomes clear. This issue I got also has Endsong...where it starts with the Phoenix coming to earth again and Jean returns and Logan is the first whom she interacts with and he says to her "I maybe tough, Jean, but I'm tired of killing you.." then he says..."Get scott to do your dirty work!" lol then she takes off... ... yeah.
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 09:31 PM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
I find cyclops to be an animal inside a cage... ... but he only lets it out when he's...in a moment with Jean. heh.
but besides that, he's a leader, a good one at that, and he doesn't take s*** from no one and does the job done... ... right? In a way...
Cyclops rules.
Farren
06-12-2006, 11:21 PM
I like Movie!Cyke - or at least, I don't dislike him - he definately got the shaft as far as getting a chance to shine in the movies - but I think he has some nice moments if you're willing to look for them.
spsmartguy
06-12-2006, 11:37 PM
I like Movie!Cyke - or at least, I don't dislike him - he definately got the shaft as far as getting a chance to shine in the movies - but I think he has some nice moments if you're willing to look for them.
Do you like the actor, or the movie character? The actor is cool, movie character.. eh.. not so much.. he's just a whipped boyfriend with crazy eye laser power.
Sorry about the 'hate post' ... i read about 10 posts that really set me off, and it all came out at once. I should have said it in a more.. controlled way.. but I stand by what i said.. especially about Rogue (useless).
Farren
06-12-2006, 11:42 PM
Do you like the actor, or the movie character? The actor is cool, movie character.. eh.. not so much.. he's just a whipped boyfriend with crazy eye laser power.
I don't think the character is that bad in the movie - like I say, I think he got the shaft and from the general audience perspective, he's not so impressive. But I think Marsden did a good job and that if you look for good things about Movie!Cyke you can see them (his promise to Xavier in X1, his little moment with Jean in the museum at the beginning of X2, etc).
And sure, James Marsden is some nice eye candy - I'm not afraid to admit that I like looking at him. But I like looking at Hugh Jackman too, so....*shrugs*
borinquenknight
06-12-2006, 11:44 PM
If you follow the older X-Factor issues, you'll find that Cyclops actually has a very convoluted past. From the orphanage to Mr. Sinister, there is a whole lot of material they could've touched upon but failed to do so. It was the same with Storm which is why I think that her character lacked a whole lot to be desired.
Hulkster
06-13-2006, 12:04 AM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Oh I get what you are saying, you are saying to us that you like Cyclops dying but deep inside you really love the character that's why you come here and whining and saying that his death didn't bother you, nice try to cover up your true feelings.;)
MoviesKickAss
06-13-2006, 12:05 AM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9229/untitled9ok1.png
jusblaze21
06-13-2006, 12:31 AM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Well Singer was'nt done developing Cyclops. I believe, had Singer done X3 we would'nt get the Cyclops we saw in X3 nor would Wolverine be playing leader.
LadyVader
06-13-2006, 01:45 AM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Alright, I shall talk to the brick wall on my right, cause obviously it has more sense then you.
fallenAngel
06-13-2006, 02:30 AM
So movie Cyke was worthless, so was Rogue?
God I am so glad all these people got their dumb action movie that they always wanted, good for them. Thank god the people who made this movie were smart enough not to litter the movie with such boring worthless characters. Oh wait, Storm was one of the stars.
I only ask, would Toy Story have been better if they had just forgot about Woody and foccused on Buzz.
I really don't understand why they didn't even try with Scott, he is a great character and so is Rogue. In the movies she is the heart not the brawn. To call her worthless when she drove the plot in X men is really astonishing, sure I want to see her use her power in battle but she is not worthless. Scott I hate to say is more worthless in terms of the movie, but that's just because Fox are too stupid and apparently so are the main audiences. Even though a lot of people loved the animosity of Scott and Logan in the first movie. If Scott is so crappy then why has he been the star of the comics for forty years. And Storm sucked in the last two movies, but they tried again to make her interesting (failed though).
but hey props to you, for nothing else you managed to spell Rogue right.
UraniaChang
06-13-2006, 03:03 AM
OK, lets get a couple of things straight:
A) I know that I'm not the only one, but i barely even noticed Jean's character until the end of the second movie, so her death (BOO-HOO) isnt that much of a shock. Anyone that has ever seen a superhero movie, could have read the fact that she was going to die right from the start of the movie, and you knew Wolverine was going to do it.
B) Cyclops - OK, we get it, you all like cyke, he is a great character IN THE COMIC BOOK! As far as the movies go, he was always a whiny little prick who's only claim to fame was to repeatedly be possessive of his woman. What kind of a character is that? not a good one, or in the least bit likeable. Good ridence, I'm glad he died, and as for any chance of him coming back.. unlikely. If there is a Cyclops movie, it will be completely unrelated to these movies, and uhoh, because of the fame of these movies, that would be impossible. CYCLOPS IS GONE, AND I AM GLAD that i didnt have to sit through the movie with him whining the whole time.. if she didnt kill him at alkali lake, he probably would have whipped out a mirror, and taken himself out ;) .. and hopefully that would have been in the first 15 minutes too. SEVERAL people cheered out loud in my theater when cylops died, so dont be stupid, im not the only one that thinks this way. Cyclops will not be seen in a mainstream hollywood movie for a LONG time if ever. X-men had its time, and that time is up. I would welcome a 4th movie, but ONLY if Cyclops doesnt come back. (bring back magneto's powers and dr. x for all I care) but NOT cyclops. AGAIN CYCLOPS is a great character, but not in one MINUTE of this series of movies. If anyone has any comments on this, someone PLEASE talk to the brick wall to your right ----> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
C) There will be an X4
D) Rogue has to be the most useless character that I've ever seen in a movie... EVER!
Well......too bad you feel that way, but I will feel like to cheer out loud too if it's Wolverine die in X3.
peteapan
06-13-2006, 03:32 AM
Noone god damn cheered when Cyclops died! why would they. thats just ridiculous, as are your comments, you say people are whining yet u come on the cyclops thread and whine urself. You just want to annoy people and you have succeeded. Go somewhere else, preferably away from SHH boards. Your lack of respect for the character both movie and comic and also for the posters on this board astounds.
bexta89
06-13-2006, 03:32 AM
:( Oook, I don't check the forum for a whole day and look what I missed out on. Heh, joking.
My thoughts: Movie Cyclops seemed duller than the comic Cyclops sure, but it was probably due to the fact that there was so much story and character intros in X1, lots of drama in X2, and even more drama and characters in X3. He never had the time onscreen to shine, you know? Whereas comic Cyclops, well, he's the leader! And gets plenty of focus. Well, from what I've read of the comics...which is mostly Uncanny X-Men.
Also, James Marsden did the best with what he had to work with, to make Cyclops believable, and to make people feel for him. He brought the character to life on the big screen, and I know I'm grateful.
Everyone's got their own opinions, and they have a right to voice them. Also, please don't take this post as an attempt by me to start another argument. I'm merely sharing my thoughts.
MoviesKickAss
06-13-2006, 03:49 AM
Whereas comic Cyclops, well, he's the leader! And gets plenty of focus. Well, from what I've read of the comics...which is mostly Uncanny X-Men.
FOX would die before giving Cyclops hell ANYONE ELSE for that matter a decent role. The only way for Wolverine to get out of the way is for Hugh Jackman to pretty much be killed :o & Halle Berry so Storm dont take over :o Then maybe that will be what it takes to make FOX to want to give the rights back to Marvel since they wont have their Poster Boy Character & their Oscar Winning Actress
Bastila
06-13-2006, 05:04 AM
You know i saw those bus banners yesterday and i was was thinking, the picture of Cyke are from X2 aren't they.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 07:06 AM
Cyclops Rules :D
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 07:54 AM
Cyclops Rules :D
Yeah!!! Damn right he does!! :D
taintedFB
06-13-2006, 11:09 AM
Re: Movie Cyclops. I Really DO Like Him. He came off as the most human, passionate, and emotional of the entire franchise. I liked his vulnerability and there was a warm aura about him (his scenes with Jean, the smile to the kid at the train station in X1, his scene with Jean at the museum, in the X-Jet, the last scene of X2 with xavier and Logan, and all his scenes in X3). I really felt for him. I think everyone else on the team came off rather cold and unfeeling compared to him.
I think they failed to show his strong leadership/authority and really the extent of his powers and other facets of his personality. But I really liked him in the movies... plus Jimmy's my favorite actor so that is a plus. But Cyke has always been my favorite X-Man and the movie version was good but underdeveloped.
MaleRogue
06-13-2006, 11:19 AM
Well if I have to be honest...
I didn't mind me at all that Cyclops died at Alkali Lake...
I think he is a pathetic character in the Series.....James Marsden did a great job as Cyclops.
But i feel bad for the Scott fans....
James was good....Cyclops in the series not....
But hey that is my opinion
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Looks like someone is enjoying herself...just ask JeanGrey[GR] :p
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/image.php?u=26050&dateline=1150114790
oi oi oi oi.... -shakes his head- bad girl...
Bastila
06-13-2006, 11:48 AM
I really liked Cyke in the films, James did ana amzing job and its just a shame they didn't show how this character can be a good leader and strong and show his true portential.
oneteen
06-13-2006, 12:00 PM
I think he did really well in X3 given the scenes that he had. Congrats to you Jimmy!!
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 12:02 PM
yay for Jimmy :D -claps his hands-
CapBeerCino
06-13-2006, 12:02 PM
Well if I have to be honest...
I didn't mind me at all that Cyclops died at Alkali Lake...
I think he is a pathetic character in the Series.....James Marsden did a great job as Cyclops.
But i feel bad for the Scott fans....
James was good....Cyclops in the series not....
But hey that is my opinion
And I feel bad for Rogue fans. :(
Bastila
06-13-2006, 12:03 PM
I think he did really well in X3 given the scenes that he had. Congrats to you Jimmy!!
Yeah your right, even though he may not have been in it as long as everyone else i think every scean with him in it is great and worth seeing just for that.
echostation
06-13-2006, 12:10 PM
it's funny cuz in the 2 minutes he has, he and in the 5 minute role Kelsy had as Beast... they both ended up acting circles around crappy hamfisted Berry.. who was just plain bloody awful as Storm, seriously she is just so so pathetically poor for the role it aint even funny.
Singer made a huge mistake casting her and Ana Paquin as Rogue... but still Berry;s acting in this latest one was just awful
peteapan
06-13-2006, 12:19 PM
well said echo, although I thought Ana was a good choice in showing the vunerable side of Rogue, the pain she feels at not being able to touch anyone, but yeh her casting made it difficult to see the real comic Rogue we all know and love
taintedFB
06-13-2006, 12:48 PM
I don't know. I think if they'd given Ana more sass and made her more confident throughout X2, she could have been a real member in X3. Unfortunately, she got no character arc and I think Ana feels the same way. She started off hating her powers and three movies later no growth or change. The moment she could get rid of them she does without hesitation or contemplation.
As for Halle, I truly believe she could pull off Storm if given good material and directed right. I liked her in X2, rather calm and cool. I think if they could combine that with the display of power in X3, we'd have the real Storm. In this last film, she seemed too amped up, like pissy firecracker jumping down people's throats and talking too fast and snippy to be Storm. Like, I really enjoyed her scene in the jet in X2 with Nightcrawler. Calm yet strong.
Jimmy, however, is perfect for Scott Summers. He IS Scott. Unfortnutely the character was sabatoged with most of his scenes getting cut in X1, and a lot of his dialogue off camera (seriously!). PLus, they pushed Logan so far into the front of the group, that they intentionally portrayed him as weaker to make Logan look good. Still, Jimmy acts circles around Jackman and Berry's hammy overacting. Less is more, and with Jimmy it never feels like acting...you believe it to be true!
Bastila
06-13-2006, 12:56 PM
Jimmy, however, is perfect for Scott Summers. He IS Scott. Unfortnutely the character was sabatoged with most of his scenes getting cut in X1, and a lot of his dialogue off camera (seriously!). PLus, they pushed Logan so far into the front of the group, that they intentionally portrayed him as weaker to make Logan look good. Still, Jimmy acts circles around Jackman and Berry's hammy overacting. Less is more, and with Jimmy it never feels like acting...you believe it to be true!
I so love the last part you wrote there, and it is always going to be true with the Logan part, and i hate his character even more for being the main star it annoys me.
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 12:59 PM
Jimmy, however, is perfect for Scott Summers. He IS Scott. Unfortnutely the character was sabatoged with most of his scenes getting cut in X1, and a lot of his dialogue off camera (seriously!). PLus, they pushed Logan so far into the front of the group, that they intentionally portrayed him as weaker to make Logan look good. Still, Jimmy acts circles around Jackman and Berry's hammy overacting. Less is more, and with Jimmy it never feels like acting...you believe it to be true!
Yes! Exactly, well said! :up:
JTStarkiller
06-13-2006, 01:41 PM
I remember back in an interview with Marsden (perhaps on one of the DVDs, not sure), where he said the hardest thing was showing emotion without letting the audience see your eyes. I think he was especially good in X3, particularly at Alkali Lake.
Great actor. Sadly underused.
fallenAngel
06-13-2006, 01:50 PM
I don't know. I think if they'd given Ana more sass and made her more confident throughout X2, she could have been a real member in X3. Unfortunately, she got no character arc and I think Ana feels the same way. She started off hating her powers and three movies later no growth or change. The moment she could get rid of them she does without hesitation or contemplation.
As for Halle, I truly believe she could pull off Storm if given good material and directed right. I liked her in X2, rather calm and cool. I think if they could combine that with the display of power in X3, we'd have the real Storm. In this last film, she seemed too amped up, like pissy firecracker jumping down people's throats and talking too fast and snippy to be Storm. Like, I really enjoyed her scene in the jet in X2 with Nightcrawler. Calm yet strong.
Jimmy, however, is perfect for Scott Summers. He IS Scott. Unfortnutely the character was sabatoged with most of his scenes getting cut in X1, and a lot of his dialogue off camera (seriously!). PLus, they pushed Logan so far into the front of the group, that they intentionally portrayed him as weaker to make Logan look good. Still, Jimmy acts circles around Jackman and Berry's hammy overacting. Less is more, and with Jimmy it never feels like acting...you believe it to be true!
Apparently Halle thinks Storm in number two was the worst.
as Beast says in the Dubbed stand "First you had an accent now you have nothing, untalented Black woman."
I think Halle just doesn't take the work seriously enough or something, because she isn't that bad of an actress. But the writing sucks and her character is basically completley different in every film.
and I think Hugh did a great job as Wolverine in the first film, but yeah now it just is over the top and lacking any real sincerity. Maybe Ratner made the set too much fun so the actors forgot to do their job.
and Anna is great, I think she could pull off a more comic Rogue. She is an oscar winner also after all. So all this talk about giving Halle more screen time because she won an oscar doesn't hold up. Maybe Anna just is more of a proffesional like James.
Baredevil
06-13-2006, 01:57 PM
LOL!
Oh, I dunno. I've been ragging on Halle ever since the first installment, but in the interest of fairness, it probably isn't entirely her fault that the Storm character came off so weak. I'd blame a poor script and character development first; THEN I'd blame Berry's physical shortcomings to carry off the role believably. I mean, she IS objectively an attractive woman and arguably a good enough actress; she just didn't have the physicality and presence to convince me that she was Storm. To paraphrase what someone else posted in one of the threads, "I kept waiting to see Storm, but all I got was Halle Berry in a white wig."
Farren
06-13-2006, 03:29 PM
As for Halle, I truly believe she could pull off Storm if given good material and directed right. I liked her in X2, rather calm and cool. I think if they could combine that with the display of power in X3, we'd have the real Storm. In this last film, she seemed too amped up, like pissy firecracker jumping down people's throats and talking too fast and snippy to be Storm. Like, I really enjoyed her scene in the jet in X2 with Nightcrawler. Calm yet strong.
Jimmy, however, is perfect for Scott Summers. He IS Scott. Unfortnutely the character was sabatoged with most of his scenes getting cut in X1, and a lot of his dialogue off camera (seriously!). PLus, they pushed Logan so far into the front of the group, that they intentionally portrayed him as weaker to make Logan look good. Still, Jimmy acts circles around Jackman and Berry's hammy overacting. Less is more, and with Jimmy it never feels like acting...you believe it to be true!
Agreed. I think you nailed the issue with Storm. In X3 they tried to make her 'strong' but she just came across as, like you say, a 'pissy firecracker'. I would have liked to see her exude some more quiet strength.
And I agree 100% on Jimmy - he is the perfect Scott - even with his limited scenes in X3, his acting was wonderful.
Pizzaboy1138
06-13-2006, 04:23 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/CYCLOPS-Xmen-3-The-Last-Stand-Jollibee-Toy-Philippines_W0QQitemZ7627916332QQcategoryZ197QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
X3 Cyke Toy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7627926016&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
all parts
CapBeerCino
06-13-2006, 04:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/CYCLOPS-Xmen-3-The-Last-Stand-Jollibee-Toy-Philippines_W0QQitemZ7627916332QQcategoryZ197QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
X3 Cyke Toy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7627926016&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
all parts
What did they put him in? :confused:
I must say I was half waiting to see a tomb or something, the relief :O
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 04:32 PM
It's only half of his body! Don't tell me that is all that remains of Scott Summers!!! :eek: :p
Pizzaboy1138
06-13-2006, 04:34 PM
What did they put him in? :confused:
I must say I was half waiting to see a tomb or something, the relief :O
Looks pretty weird.
But at least there's some X3 Cyke toy somewhere in the world, floating around in a "Wing Blaster" - whatever that might be.
Nemelectro
06-13-2006, 05:11 PM
everyone has to accept cyclops is the onyle 1 chacter in xmen...
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 05:12 PM
the only 1 character in X-Men? ...
So that means no Jean? ... and no Phoenix? ... and no Madelyne? ... no Dark Phoenix?
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 05:22 PM
everyone has to accept cyclops is the onyle 1 chacter in xmen...
What? :confused:
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 05:23 PM
If scott was the only X-Men...he'd be a complete loner...
fallenAngel
06-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Maybe he means, he is only one character, and that there are others.:confused:
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 05:25 PM
... no I think he meant the only X-MEN... meaning forget Jean, Iceman, beast, etc...
Nemelectro
06-13-2006, 05:32 PM
guys,I'm so angry with the director.ı'm still on film's affect.I hate wolverine and in xmen3 we only see wolverine,everyone think wolverine is the best he is the only 1 wolverine = xmen.... Because of all of them I said cyclops is the best.......
Nemelectro
06-13-2006, 05:34 PM
i mean he is the only one :) best character,his leadership,his behaviours,his thinks about love or different thing.Unfortnetaly director erased that qualifications ,he ignored Cyclops...
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 05:35 PM
Oh okay. Cause I was gonna have a one on one discussion about cyclops and his love for Jean Grey. ... lol
Bishop2
06-13-2006, 05:35 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7627926016&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
I really like how they have everyone labeled by their code names.
WOLVERINE!
CYCLOPS!
STORM!
PROFESSOR! ... er... :confused:
:p
Nemelectro
06-13-2006, 05:38 PM
ehehe :)
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 06:02 PM
Oh okay. Cause I was gonna have a one on one discussion about cyclops and his love for Jean Grey. ... lol
You can still have it :D :p
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 06:03 PM
im kinda busy at the moment. when im in a good mood, I might.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 06:03 PM
man I feel like I live here. I always have Scott and Jean on my mind. :) :p James and Famke ;) ...
oneteen
06-13-2006, 06:09 PM
^ And you know what...they are really good friends and in interviews together, they kid around alot. It's cute. :p
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 06:10 PM
uh read his recent post(s) oneteen...he made it clear already so its all good.
oneteen
06-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Yeah I edited. Geez you pretty much run to this thread. :p
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Not...really...well maybe. :) ...
Verlin
06-13-2006, 07:23 PM
man I feel like I live here. I always have Scott and Jean on my mind. :) :p James and Famke ;) ...
Gee, ask me! For the last two months my unimportant live practically centered around those two characters. XD The Cyke-thread is the first site to check when my internet runs. I'm reading some issues of the comic over and over again, searching in local shops, at amazon or ebay for those I don't own. And for the last two months I was constantly blabbering to my friends about X3, The Dark Phoenix arc, Cyke, Jean, their relationship, yadda yadda yadda....
God, I must have been so goddamn annoying...
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 07:27 PM
Gee, ask me! For the last two months my unimportant live practically centered around those two characters. XD The Cyke-thread is the first site to check when my internet runs. I'm reading some issues of the comic over and over again, searching in local shops, at amazon or ebay for those I don't own. And for the last two months I was constantly blabbering to my friends about X3, The Dark Phoenix arc, Cyke, Jean, their relationship, yadda yadda yadda....
God, I must have been so goddamn annoying...
aww... you can talk about them all ya want. ;)
oneteen
06-13-2006, 07:30 PM
Let it out pal, let it out... :)
Verlin
06-13-2006, 07:35 PM
aww... you can talk about them all ya want. ;)
Well, my friends aren't X-men fans at all. They've only seen the movies....and welll...
Cut to the theatre:
Me: Go Cyyyyyke!!!! ><
Them: God, Hugh Jackman...so sexy... *drool*
So I must have annoyed them pretty much late, although they didn't say a word about it.
But you're right. Here, I can talk! I'm free! Mwahahahahaha!! *spreads the cyke lurve*
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 07:43 PM
you know After seeing the teaser trailer the last week before March, I was looking forward to seeing Cyclops in X3, but at the same time (this was before I joined the hype) I didn't know about his fate and all the stuff that was going on. I was a big cyclops fan way back and I still consider myself one. He made me see Jean the way I never thought I'd understand and care about her... even in X2 when they were holding each other... man. one of my fave moments. so then I joined the hype and kept my x-thoughts to myself and then I spilled it out...and at times I got carried away...
I kept watching X1 and X2, but x2 more cause I was excited about X3... I didn't know there was gonna be another one. lol
I was hoping that Scott would have a bigger role in this one but alas, that didn't happen in my eyes but still I thought Jimmy was great with little scenes and time that he had. It was worth it. Same goes with Famke... I think in X3, there was real chemistry between James and Famke. The way he ran his hand through her hair and smiled... the way they held each other close... the way she held his head with her hands...the way they kissed passionately even though it didn't last long...it was still worth it...
I could feel their passion they have for each other just radiate off of the screen and then when ...she goes bad... you almost want to cry out for scott and Jean...I think his death was accidental... poor phoenix didn't want Scott...
he wasn't animal enough :p lol
anyway... I thought James and Famke had a more real chemistry in their scene together. :)
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 07:53 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/gilpeshfreeman/CykeWolvie.gif someone posted this in the X3 movie gif thread...
lol Makes me wanna punch Logan in the face... -looks down...looks up and punches Logan in the face-
And i meant it.
Gilpesh
06-13-2006, 07:55 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/gilpeshfreeman/CykeWolvie.gif someone posted this in the X3 movie gif thread...
lol Makes me wanna punch Logan in the face... -looks down...looks up and punches Logan in the face-
And i meant it.
Wow, you beat me to the punch... and I made it!
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 07:56 PM
when I said I meant it I meant I meant it...by punching Logan...
Verlin
06-13-2006, 08:00 PM
God, I remember so clearly. When I sat in the cinema way back in 2003 I was so shocked about Jeans dead. I really didn't saw it coming. Lol. But when the shilouette of the phoenix appeard in the end, I was sooo relieved. And so gosh darn happy, because I thought "Man...the dark phoenix arc. Finally there's a chance for Scott and Jimmy to shine. Finally there will be an X-men movie that will NOT center around Wolverine." That this is the big chance and they just couldn't screw it up! They couldn't!!!
Well, I was wrong....At least on Cykes point.
But I totally agree with you, that Famke and Jimmy just did an amazing job! The scences that Jim had, were so strong and such brilliant acting. It's so sad and frustrating that the filmmakers didn't take an advatage out of the chance, that was brought to them by the story an Jimmy.
And Famke...Famke as Dark Phoenix. I mean...Whoooooosh!!! She really pushed me in my seat, back in the theatre. I was so stunned by her acting. There isn't one woman on earth, that could have been a better choice for Jean. ><
And of course, the scence that those two got together were great. But I so wanted more of them. Instead I got...Wolverine... dah, Jimmy is far more sexier!!
By the way: Why is it, that every time I listen to "Maneater" I have to think of Emma? Oo
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 08:02 PM
God, I remeber so clearly. When I sat in the cinema way back in 2003 I was so shocked about Jeans dead. I really didn't saw it coming. Lol. But when the shilouette of the phoenix appeard in the end, I was sooo relieved. And so gosh darn happy, because I thought "Man...the dark phoenix arc. Finally there's a chance for Scott and Jimmy to shine. Finally there will be an X-men movie that will NOT center about Wolverine." That this is the big chance and they just couldn't screw it up! They couldn't!!!
Well, I was wrong....At least on Cykes point.
But I totally agree with you, that Famke and Jimmy just did an amazing job! The scences that Jim had, were so strong and such brilliant acting. It's so sad and frustrating that the filmmakers didn't take an advatage out of the chance, that was brought to them by the story an Jimmy.
And Famke...Famke as Dark Phoenix. I mean...Whoooooosh!!! She really pushed me in my seat, back in the theatre. I was so stunned by her acting. There isn't one woman on earth, that could have been a better choice for Jean. ><
And of course, the scence that those to got together were great. But I so wanted more of them. Instead I got...Wolverine... dah, Jimmy is far more sexier!!
By the way: Why is it, that every time I listen to "Maneater" I have to think of Emma? Oo
I hate Emma...:mad:
bexta89
06-13-2006, 08:04 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/gilpeshfreeman/CykeWolvie.gif someone posted this in the X3 movie gif thread...
lol Makes me wanna punch Logan in the face... -looks down...looks up and punches Logan in the face-
And i meant it.
Bwahahahaha! :cyclops: So true! Whoever made this is a genius!
Verlin
06-13-2006, 08:13 PM
I hate Emma...:mad:
Me too...*turns music off* If I have to listen to that song one more time, I'll go nuts. I have two hands. So on one I'll punch Movie-Wolverine and on the other Emma. Fun, fun, fun...
The gif is great! I'll save it...muhahahaha
Farren
06-13-2006, 08:30 PM
Haha, nice gif!
Bishop2
06-13-2006, 08:41 PM
Me too...*turns music off* If I have to listen to that song one more time, I'll go nuts. I have two hands. So on one I'll punch Movie-Wolverine and on the other Emma. Fun, fun, fun...
The gif is great! I'll save it...muhahahaha
Emma's no maneater — hell, for most of her time with the X-Men or working for Xavier, she's been single. Cyke's the only guy she's been with. She was on her own while she was co-leading Generation X. And I'm sure she'll be single again one day, since it's inevitable that Jean will always come back from the dead over and over and over. ;)
Mike059jig
06-13-2006, 09:09 PM
I like Emma......
borinquenknight
06-13-2006, 09:15 PM
Haha, nice gif!
That gif is hilarious!:up:
Mike059jig
06-13-2006, 09:19 PM
that GIF is funny but so true...
fallenAngel
06-13-2006, 10:24 PM
God, I remember so clearly. When I sat in the cinema way back in 2003 I was so shocked about Jeans dead. I really didn't saw it coming. Lol. But when the shilouette of the phoenix appeard in the end, I was sooo relieved. And so gosh darn happy, because I thought "Man...the dark phoenix arc. Finally there's a chance for Scott and Jimmy to shine. Finally there will be an X-men movie that will NOT center around Wolverine." That this is the big chance and they just couldn't screw it up! They couldn't!!!
Well, I was wrong....At least on Cykes point.
I remember last year when it started becoming apparent that James role was in danger due to Singer and Superman that people started saying things like "It'll probably be Wolverine who confronts the phoenix in the end and saves the day rather than Cyclops."
It was said half hazardly which is the sad part, I think it was layed out as the worst case senario, but I don't think many people actually thought it would happen this way.
I mean people were in denial for over six months basically. Though I can't blame them.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 11:38 PM
sadly...I came at a bad time... :(
oneteen
06-13-2006, 11:47 PM
I remember last year when it started becoming apparent that James role was in danger due to Singer and Superman that people started saying things like "It'll probably be Wolverine who confronts the phoenix in the end and saves the day rather than Cyclops."
It was said half hazardly which is the sad part, I think it was layed out as the worst case senario, but I don't think many people actually thought it would happen this way.
I mean people were in denial for over six months basically. Though I can't blame them.
Yeah, I used to be saddened. Cyclops in the movie was why I started liking Jimmy in the first place. The way he portrayed him...it showed how sweet he can be. Esp. after Jean fights Scott at Alkali and Scott hugs and says "I'm so sorry". It really got to me and made me love Jimmy even more...it's a damn shame his talent was being barely used in X3. I, too was expecting a much bigger role of Cyke.
Bishop2
06-13-2006, 11:49 PM
God, I remember so clearly. When I sat in the cinema way back in 2003 I was so shocked about Jeans dead. I really didn't saw it coming. Lol. But when the shilouette of the phoenix appeard in the end, I was sooo relieved. And so gosh darn happy, because I thought "Man...the dark phoenix arc. Finally there's a chance for Scott and Jimmy to shine. Finally there will be an X-men movie that will NOT center around Wolverine." That this is the big chance and they just couldn't screw it up! They couldn't!!!
Well, I was wrong....At least on Cykes point.
I totally agree. I felt the same way.
And yeah, I remember joking about how Wolverine would probably be the one to save Jean/be forced to confront her/kill her instead of Cyke. Of course, I thought it was just a JOKE...
Jeebus Chrisutron.
DarknessOfDeath
06-13-2006, 11:54 PM
... :( huggles? :)
oneteen
06-13-2006, 11:57 PM
It's so nice coming here and seeing how people feel the same way I feel about how Cyke was handled. :O
MoviesKickAss
06-13-2006, 11:57 PM
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oneteen
06-13-2006, 11:59 PM
I'm not sure if I get it. But cool nonetheless.
MoviesKickAss
06-14-2006, 12:01 AM
I'm not sure if I get it. But cool nonetheless.
You must not be a Video Gamer :up:
Bishop2
06-14-2006, 12:01 AM
... :( huggles? :)
Hey, I found something tonight that I figured would probably fill you with some kind of rage. ;) It's about Singer's plans for X3... from screenwriter Dan Harris:
Screenwriter Dan Harris was recently ported over to work on Superman Returns alongside director Bryan Singer. But Harris told the Canadian Press that had he and his "X2" co-writers stayed with the "X-Men " franchise, one of the next big additions would've been Emma Frost, penned with Sigourney Weaver in mind.
Harris says "We were going to do X-Men 3 for a little while and our big secret was - and it's not going to happen now, so it's OK - we wanted to bring in Emma Frost, a famous X-Men character. She's called the White Queen. We were going to ask Sigourney to be it. She was an empath in our version, which means she could control people's emotions, could look at someone and make them cry on cue or make them hate you or be lonely."
Sigourney Weaver as Emma? Okay, that's an older Emma, but I could see it I guess, assuming she had the blonde hair she sported in Galaxy Quest. Even so, making her an empath who can control emotions? That's like, the most useless power ever! That's more useless than Rogue! :p
Bishop2
06-14-2006, 12:03 AM
http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/8/56565/PS3.gif
Why does Cyke start laughing as soon as he sees Dante from Devil May Cry? Only the price tag is really hilarious. :p
MoviesKickAss
06-14-2006, 12:05 AM
Why does Cyke start laughing as soon as he sees Dante
Cause Scott knows about the price already & Wolverine doesnt yet (as you can tell by his expression) he knew Wolverine would be pissed :o
Bishop2
06-14-2006, 12:06 AM
Cause Scott knows about the price already & Wolverine doesnt yet (as you can tell by his expression) he knew Wolverine would be pissed :o
Eh, I think it would make more sense without that shot, because with it you actually have to explain it to me for me to buy that. :)
MoviesKickAss
06-14-2006, 12:08 AM
Eh, I think it would make more sense without that shot, because with it you actually have to explain it to me for me to buy that. :)
k I'll edit it out
fallenAngel
06-14-2006, 12:08 AM
Sigourney Weaver as Emma? Okay, that's an older Emma, but I could see it I guess, assuming she had the blonde hair she sported in Galaxy Quest. Even so, making her an empath who can control emotions? That's like, the most useless power ever! That's more useless than Rogue! :p
Yeah I remember that. I actually thought the idea of Sigourney Weaver was a pretty good one. She even said darn when they told her about it and asked if they could write the part into superman.
Her empath abilities were supposed to be able to have her control people, mainly men.
God I wish I could see Singers version, I like the plot cure, just wish it could have been saved for later.
MoviesKickAss
06-14-2006, 12:13 AM
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Bishop2
06-14-2006, 12:15 AM
kllllll
That's funny crap, lol :up:
MoviesKickAss
06-14-2006, 12:17 AM
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Here we go
FaT_tONle
06-14-2006, 12:20 AM
I got a question for you guys... would you guys have been happier just recasting Cyke to have a larger role or just have it as it was...
Bishop2
06-14-2006, 12:47 AM
I got a question for you guys... would you guys have been happier just recasting Cyke to have a larger role or just have it as it was...
You know, I'd probably leave it, believe it or not. :\
DarknessOfDeath
06-14-2006, 12:55 AM
Hey, I found something tonight that I figured would probably fill you with some kind of rage. ;) It's about Singer's plans for X3... from screenwriter Dan Harris:
Sigourney Weaver as Emma? Okay, that's an older Emma, but I could see it I guess, assuming she had the blonde hair she sported in Galaxy Quest. Even so, making her an empath who can control emotions? That's like, the most useless power ever! That's more useless than Rogue! :p
... thats old news. lol but nice try anyway.
ILuvCyclops
06-14-2006, 02:31 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/gilpeshfreeman/CykeWolvie.gif someone posted this in the X3 movie gif thread...
lol Makes me wanna punch Logan in the face... -looks down...looks up and punches Logan in the face-
And i meant it.
teehee!! Funny! :D
CapBeerCino
06-14-2006, 03:33 AM
^ Ha Ha!
CapBeerCino
06-14-2006, 03:35 AM
I got a question for you guys... would you guys have been happier just recasting Cyke to have a larger role or just have it as it was...
Not really. My problam with Cyke is only in x-3, but that movie is bad in almost every way so x-men for me is 1&2. x-3 hasn't been made yet :p
Spidey 2007
06-14-2006, 03:45 AM
Not really. My problam with Cyke is only in x-3, but that movie is bad in almost every way so x-men for me is 1&2. x-3 hasn't been made yet :p
you are on to something. X3 wasnt actually made. X-men the last stand was! not "X3"
intresting.
Verlin
06-14-2006, 05:46 AM
... :( huggles? :)
Yes! >< Many of them, please...
DarknessOfDeath
06-14-2006, 07:13 AM
my class was cancelled today... and I spent all night working on my project so its not due til next wednesday... LOL
my class was cancelled today... and I spent all night working on my project so its not due til next wednesday... LOL
And this has to do with Cyclops because...?
DarknessOfDeath
06-14-2006, 07:20 AM
Because Im about to discuss Cyclops while im here...
geez... whats with ppl against me now? It seems like pick on dod today cause he's easy to pick on!!!
Because Im about to discuss Cyclops while im here...
geez... whats with ppl against me now? It seems like pick on dod today cause he's easy to pick on!!!
I know, I know. Well, you are the biggest random poster I've ever seen on this site, no offense. :up: I just get caught off-guard, that's all. That's what the Off-Topic thread is for, by the way.
DarknessOfDeath
06-14-2006, 07:28 AM
well if only it wasn't moved... :rolleyes:
well if only it wasn't moved... :rolleyes:
Only a few clicks away. Not that far. Even better, bookmark it.
DarknessOfDeath
06-14-2006, 07:42 AM
-narrows eyes- Im at school... -yawns-
So hows the cyke fans eh?
Just reading this X4 fan-fic. Cykes is at Alkali Lake hospital, Sinister locates him after 15 years, kidnaps him, an invasion occurs at the X-mansion (Sinister and Omega Red), Jean's dead body is taken from her grave, Jean returns, Scott has a moment with Jean, they escape Sinister's hideout along with Havok and the story goes on from there.
Pretty cool fan-fic.
Alexei09
06-14-2006, 08:09 AM
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Here we go
Here's a variation of that
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Here's a variation of that
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And here's another:
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Mike059jig
06-14-2006, 10:26 AM
LMAO...KONG's laughing..it was fun to see kong laugh in that movie....what's with the $599 price for ps3...I thought it was $400-$500
flash13
06-14-2006, 11:25 AM
i was mad when they killed cyclops!:mad: if there is an X4 they should :cyclops: bring him back!
taintedFB
06-14-2006, 11:39 AM
We really have to get organized and make our voices heard if we want Cyclops back. Because I don't think they plan on it. They want Storm to lead. BUT, if Logan is out (he wants to go, SOLO, as if he wasn;t already the star of these films!) I think we could get Scott back. Let's hope.
I'd like to see Scott and Ororo side by side leading ALL the X-Men in a large battle like Alcatraz with Scott yelling out the orders!
what's with the $599 price for ps3...I thought it was $400-$500Like the 360 it's gonna have 2 price points. The real mccoy at $599, and the retarded younger brother at $499. But unlike the 360, you're permanently gimped if you choose the cheaper one.
Oh and if you wondering why it's so expensive, it's because Sony wants to force people into buying there Blu-ray high def dvd format. So it doesn't end up dying like a dozen other formats Sony has tried to make big and failed. :eek:
They also figured everyone was bored of rumble in the controllers(and it was totally unrelated to them getting sued for stealing the very same rumble tech, which they lost), and gutted it out and added simple motion sensors so you can get a slight better control of flight and maybe driving games(assuming any developers put in the effort to do so). Oh and they also say it's a true next gen HD gaming format(unlike the 360). Even though it will be outputting games in the 720P format, just like the 360(atleast it has the hypothetical top res of 1080p, tho games at that res will be downgraded visually to make use of that resolution). Oh and also something to be happy about it's also the first 4th dimensional console. Apparently. Whatever that means. :ghost:
Also it has real next generation features that make it just super better than the competition. Like real time weapon changing, and being able to attack for massive damage on historically accurate giant crabs. Which you can find out more about here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ&search=Sony%20conference%20).
As for Marsden, anyone see those new Superman returns clips? I get the feeling Marsden is gonna get shafted ala Notebook. Have his girl go back to the man she first loved. Ugh I see some nasty typecasting in action.:(
Mike059jig
06-14-2006, 11:46 AM
Everybody what cyclops back...what happened in X3 was alot of damage to the character ability to be in other X-movies...I would like him back but another ressurection seems really dull and that would make three, Jean and Prof X included....its gonna take great sorry telling to bring him back I don't want something lame...Thanks for the PS3 info..I just want it for gran turismo 5 and thats it..Marsden look great in Superman returns it shows me that Singer has alot of Confidence in Marsden as an actor and would of done him justice in X3..Superman returns it getting great reviews at RT
I would like him back but another ressurection seems really dull and that would make three, Jean and Prof X included....its gonna take great sorry telling to bring him back I don't want something lame...I haven't seen the film. But from what i've read you don't actually see him die. So they have plenty of room to explain his disappearance. Like have Sinister abduct him, or something. This is Fox, if they can write the Phoenix story as a subplot with a detached Phoenix and Wolverine killing her and saving the day. They can put forward anything.
Which logically means there won't be Cyke returning, they clearly don't like the character. So I doubt they'll bring him back. :xmen:
Mike059jig
06-14-2006, 12:06 PM
Maybe when X4 comes around they are gonna take us right back to that same scene....with jean kissing cyclops his eyes did open and notice something was wrong....then the scene just cut...probably he's under the water:confused:
Bastila
06-14-2006, 12:54 PM
Maybe when X4 comes around they are gonna take us right back to that same scene....with jean kissing cyclops his eyes did open and notice something was wrong....then the scene just cut...probably he's under the water:confused:
that would be intresting.
taintedFB
06-14-2006, 01:15 PM
They can definitely bring him back if they choose to. I think if Jackman refuses to do another team film, Scott's cances of survival will improve. You'd want at least one of the male leads from the first trilogy and Bobby is YAWN boring!
taintedFB
06-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Edit
Bastila
06-14-2006, 01:19 PM
They can definitely bring him back if they choose to. I think if Jackman refuses to do another team film, Scott's cances of survival will improve. You'd want at least one of the male leads from the first trilogy and Bobby is YAWN boring!
lol, love the bobby part he is though character wise.
But yeah with Jackman into his spin-off it could work well for Cyke and James getting to actually play the real Cyke we all know. I hope that happens and X-men with out Logan would be nice lol.
taintedFB
06-14-2006, 01:21 PM
I agree. And if they introduce Gambit as a troubled younger character, Scott and Ororo could have their hands full with him. And he could get entangled in the much larger story of the movie. And Scott could finally lead! Jimmy can do it, and he's been the lead in movies before. FOX just has to write a good partfor Cyclops beyond the sensitive/jealous boyfriend we've seen.
Bastila
06-14-2006, 01:26 PM
I agree. And if they introduce Gambit as a troubled younger character, Scott and Ororo could have their hands full with him. And he could get entangled in the much larger story of the movie. And Scott could finally lead! Jimmy can do it, and he's been the lead in movies before. FOX just has to write a good partfor Cyclops beyond the sensitive/jealous boyfriend we've seen.
yeah your right and if they listen to us (the fans ) as well, see they could still get a huge box office gross without Logan and other people .
ILuvCyclops
06-14-2006, 01:41 PM
I agree. And if they introduce Gambit as a troubled younger character, Scott and Ororo could have their hands full with him. And he could get entangled in the much larger story of the movie. And Scott could finally lead! Jimmy can do it, and he's been the lead in movies before. FOX just has to write a good partfor Cyclops beyond the sensitive/jealous boyfriend we've seen.
Very true!
Mike059jig
06-14-2006, 01:47 PM
X4 seems to be very long away for now 2010 maybe...it seems the vibe just spinoff...cyclops return is always welcomed but for some reason I don't see an x-men film without wolverine..its just doesn't seems right...but maybe it could work
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