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SCOTT&JEAN
07-20-2006, 09:43 PM
I'm currently making a manip as well. :)
Cool! What about?

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 09:50 PM
Look what we've been up to in the photo manips thread last 3 days, I think you can get a nice dosage of Cyclops goodness there :)

Loved it. I loved the one where Cyke blasts Wolverine. Too bad their relationship in the movies was never resolved (then again absolutely nothing about Scott got resolved- Jean, the school, Xavier etc...)

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 09:52 PM
Loved it. I loved the one where Cyke blasts Wolverine. Too bad their relationship in the movies was never resolved (then again absolutely nothing about Scott got resolved- Jean, the school, Xavier etc...)

Yeah, so much for all those promises that the chars made, huh? bunch of liars they are :P

You make an interesting point. Absolutely nothing regarding Scott was settled or resolved or even came true.

1. He was Xavier's heir apparent and swore in X1 that if something should happen to the man, he would step forward and take on the burden of keeping his dream going. Nope.

2. In X2, Wolverine backed off and let Scott know that Jean made a Choice. She chose Scott. I guess she meant she chose Scott to be the one she kills in X3 because their relationship certainly hit a dead end.

3. Scott's and Wolverine's relationship. Friends / foes / competitors / teammates. Where it was supposed to go, on what level did things finish? we'll never know.

4. Scott's gift and potential for being cured and being able to see with his own eyes again and not being a threat to people with a single glance. That or maybe finding a way to fix his injury through medicine, technology, or Jean's enhanced TK powers. Again we'll never know either.

5. Scott's leadership of the X-Men. Is he good or bad? What kind of a strategist is he when there are big battles to fight? How is he at training the little X-cadets? Again, we won't know.

6. Scott's relationship with the students. Any close, personal friends? Any special connections or bonds with Marie or Kitty or Jubilee or Terry or anyone taking his shop classes? No answers here either.

7. The man is obviously a gear-head. He has some sweet looking motorcycles and souped-up cars. He never gets to drive them or do anything with them or show off his mad skills at either fixing them or doing some wild maneuvers in them to save the day. We know one of his bikes had that super-speed mod. It'd be nice to see what Scott can do with it.

8. "I won't let anything happen to you". Nope, didn't get to save the girl either.

9. Scott's final fate. That certainly wasn't resolved either.

This guy might as well wear a shirt with a giant ? on the front a la the Riddler, cause he certainly never gets anything answered.

SCOTT&JEAN
07-20-2006, 09:56 PM
Loved it. I loved the one where Cyke blasts Wolverine. Too bad their relationship in the movies was never resolved (then again absolutely nothing about Scott got resolved- Jean, the school, Xavier etc...)
100% agreed

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 10:00 PM
Yeah, so much for all those promises that the chars made, huh? bunch of liars they are :P

Lol. I tell ya- when the x-3 dvd comes out I want to rent it (even though after the first time I watched x-3 I swore it was also my last) only to listen to Ratner's commentaries and hear what he has to say about this piece of junk. The x-1/ x-2 commentaries are really good - with Singer explaining the decision making and you can just see the amount of thought in the making.

What would Ratner say? "And here it goes BOOM" ? I also want to hear what he will say about Scott's 'death'.

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Yeah, so much for all those promises that the chars made, huh? bunch of liars they are :P

You make an interesting point. Absolutely nothing regarding Scott was settled or resolved or even came true.

1. He was Xavier's heir apparent and swore in X1 that if something should happen to the man, he would step forward and take on the burden of keeping his dream going. Nope.

2. In X2, Wolverine backed off and let Scott know that Jean made a Choice. She chose Scott. I guess she chose to kill Scott in X3 because their relationship certainly hit a dead end.

3. Scott's and Wolverine's relationship. Friends / foes / competitors / teammates. Where it was supposed to go, on what level did things finish? we'll never know.

4. Scott's gift and potential for being cured and being able to see with his own eyes again and not being a threat to people with a single glance. That or maybe finding a way to fix his injury. Again we'll never know either.

5. Scott's leadership of the X-Men. Is he good or bad? What kind of a strategist is he when there are big battles to fight? How is he at training the little X-cadets? Again, we won't know

6. Scott's relationship with the students. Any close, personal friends? Any special connections with Marie or Kitty or anyone else taking his shop classes? No answers here either.

7. The man is obviously a gear-head. He has some sweet looking motorcycles and souped-up cars. He never gets to drive them or do anything with them or show off his mad skills at either fixing them or doing some wild maneuvers in them to save the day. We know one of his bikes had that super-speed mod. It'd be nice to see what Scott can do with it.

8. Scott's final fate. That certainly wasn't resolved either.

This guy might as well wear a shirt with a giant ? on the front a la the Riddler, cause he certainly never gets anything answered.

Right on every point! In x-1 we could tell the team was 'new' and Scott was still learning being the field leader (I think the "Storm fry him!" shows that) He must have got better but we'll never know...

And no.8 sums it all up. In the very last movie his fate isn't resolved so what more can we say? :(

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 10:05 PM
What would Ratner say? "And here it goes BOOM" ? I also want to hear what he will say about Scott's 'death'.

"We thought this next scene was pure cinematic genius. It took us days to set up the camera angles just right, and 5 minutes to write the script."

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 10:07 PM
And no.8 sums it all up. In the very last movie his fate isn't resolved so what more can we say? :(

Don't forget the "I won't let anything happen to you" line. He didn't get to do that either.

The only justice is seeing Superman Returns, there Scott Summers aka Richard White is at his best :)

But yeah if it involves Character development, Scott didn't get any. Hell, Angel got less screen time and he got to develop more.

Rac
07-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Dunno have you seen this:

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3453/tenthandwolfug0.jpg

Bigger: http://www.impawards.com/2006/tenth_and_wolf_xlg.html

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 10:13 PM
"We thought this next scene was pure cinematic genius. It took us days to set up the camera angles just right, and 5 minutes to write the script."

And don't forget "We shot this scene with 5 different hairdos and here by put Jimmy's time to the best use we could find" :down :o

But seriously if he wont say that Cyclops death was very controversial and the fans hated it I'd be (even more) pissed!

Then again, being the puppet that Ratner is, and x-3 being what it is - it's very likely there would be no commentaries.

SCOTT&JEAN
07-20-2006, 10:18 PM
Dunno have you seen this:

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3453/tenthandwolfug0.jpg

Bigger: http://www.impawards.com/2006/tenth_and_wolf_xlg.html
It's been posted before.... but it's good to see that again...

Seeing twice a photo of Jimmy is even better!!!

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 10:35 PM
And don't forget "We shot this scene with 5 different hairdos and here by put Jimmy's time to the best use we could find" :down :o


In all fairness that scene was supposed to be one of the most anticipated moments of the film and one of the most important as far as character relations are concerned, so I would expect them to spend alot of time. You want it to be intense, beautiful, flowing with emotion. Every gesture, every moment well thought out and brought to life. The kind of movie magic that's poetic.
It started out ok but was way too rushed. The music was too loud and obstructive (I'd prefer something a bit more delicate like John William's Luke and Leia theme from ROTJ or the love theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark), but then the scene ended like the camera suddenly ran out of film and next thing you see is Xavier screaming. Maybe he was screaming because he didn't like the way the scene turned out? :D

But seriously if he wont say that Cyclops death was very controversial and the fans hated it I'd be (even more) pissed!


I doubt it. Latest commentary from Kinberg indicates he thought it was brilliant and a perfect way to show how evil Jean had become. Viewers didn't expect this to happen, which means they did a great job of surprising you with a sudden dramatic dark plot twist.


Then again, being the puppet that Ratner is, and x-3 being what it is - it's very likely there would be no commentaries.

Hey, i'm still waiting for X-2.5

It's ironic how James Marsden's chars seem to win in all his films except the one that was most important.

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 10:44 PM
I doubt it. Latest commentary from Kinberg indicates he thought it was brilliant and a perfect way to show how evil Jean had become. Viewers didn't expect this to happen, which means they did a great job of surprising you with a sudden dramatic dark plot twist.


Really, he said that? I can't bring myself to read anymore of the writers. At first they said that Scott was "poor story telling and they take responsibility" and now it's brilliant?

The only reason "Viewers didn't expect this to happen" is because who the hell kill Cyclops in the phoenix saga??? If that how you write dramatic plot twists even I'm ready for Hollywood...

oneteen
07-20-2006, 10:56 PM
Cool! What about?
Okay...brace yourself.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3271/untue3.jpg

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Really, he said that? I can't bring myself to read anymore of the writers. At first they said that Scott was "poor story telling and they take responsibility" and now it's brilliant?

The only reason "Viewers didn't expect this to happen" is because who the hell kill Cyclops in the phoenix saga??? If that how you write dramatic plot twists even I'm ready for Hollywood...

Slight correction, it was a quote by Penn and not Kinberg. My apologies. I have to dig up the quote, it's in another thread, but the man basically explains that the Phoenix saga is not about love or sacrifice or redemption or between Scott and Jean but instead a jekyl/hyde inner battle showing how dark and destructive Jean becomes.

The general consensus is that the above should be corrected to say "my Phoenix saga" because it's obviously not THE Phoenix Saga.

ntcrawler
07-20-2006, 11:09 PM
here's the actual quote. See? it has nothing to do with sacrifice or love or Jean/Scott.

"The message of the Dark Phoenix Saga is not one of self-sacrifice. Nor is it about the fact that Scott and Jean are in love. It is about the terrible, horrific, but ultimately human capacity for evil, and what we must do in the face of it. Even when it comes from inside us. I know a lot of people like to see the Phoenix Saga as a love story, but I don't agree with that. It is a classic Jekyl and Hyde story, including repressed emotions and the like, and the ESSENTIAL moment is that Jean realizes what she has done and destroys (or allows to be destroyed) the dark side of her. I think we got the spirit of it without the details."

-Zak Penn

SCOTT&JEAN
07-20-2006, 11:11 PM
Okay...brace yourself.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3271/untue3.jpg
lol. It looks like he is shooting against himself....

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 11:58 PM
Okay...brace yourself.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3271/untue3.jpg

:D :up: LMAO

CapBeerCino
07-21-2006, 12:01 AM
"The message of the Dark Phoenix Saga is not one of self-sacrifice. Nor is it about the fact that Scott and Jean are in love. It is about the terrible, horrific, but ultimately human capacity for evil, and what we must do in the face of it. Even when it comes from inside us. I know a lot of people like to see the Phoenix Saga as a love story, but I don't agree with that. It is a classic Jekyl and Hyde story, including repressed emotions and the like, and the ESSENTIAL moment is that Jean realizes what she has done and destroys (or allows to be destroyed) the dark side of her. I think we got the spirit of it without the details."

-Zak Penn

Blah Blah Blah.

Retroman
07-21-2006, 01:04 AM
Dunno have you seen this:

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3453/tenthandwolfug0.jpg

Bigger: http://www.impawards.com/2006/tenth_and_wolf_xlg.html
Nice poster.

Retroman
07-21-2006, 01:07 AM
Last night they showed the pilot episode of 'The Nanny' and James has a very small role in it. He played a waiter who gives Maggie her first kiss.

It was kind of funny seeing Marsden in his pre-pre X-Men days.

triplefive
07-21-2006, 01:09 AM
LOL, yeah, I think that was his first role or something.

triplefive
07-21-2006, 01:10 AM
re: Alibi trailer caps...

Aww, he's so cute and stupid in that movie.

oneteen
07-21-2006, 01:17 AM
I wanna see it so bad! Along with 10th & Wolf. Ever since X2 I've been a huge fan of his.

triplefive
07-21-2006, 01:19 AM
The Alibi wasn't anything too special... I got totally lost in the storyline and very distracted by the awful job the hair department did on Rebecca. She's one of the most beautiful women in the world -- how can someone mess that up???

EDIT: rly want to see 10th and wolf though

oneteen
07-21-2006, 01:56 AM
How did you see it? Just wondering.

SCOTT&JEAN
07-21-2006, 03:32 AM
Last night they showed the pilot episode of 'The Nanny' and James has a very small role in it. He played a waiter who gives Maggie her first kiss.

It was kind of funny seeing Marsden in his pre-pre X-Men days.
Really? I didn't know he played there. (Even for a small, one time role)

WideAwake
07-21-2006, 04:33 AM
Lol. I tell ya- when the x-3 dvd comes out I want to rent it (even though after the first time I watched x-3 I swore it was also my last) only to listen to Ratner's commentaries and hear what he has to say about this piece of junk. The x-1/ x-2 commentaries are really good - with Singer explaining the decision making and you can just see the amount of thought in the making.

What would Ratner say? "And here it goes BOOM" ? I also want to hear what he will say about Scott's 'death'.

Agreed, CapBeerCino. I think I'll rent the DVD for the commentaries and such, and make a copy of it. I liked some parts of X3, but there is no way I'm going to support Fox by buying the DVD. Maybe I'll fish it out the bargain bin a couple of months later.

Bastila
07-21-2006, 05:18 AM
Whens that new movie coming out? The 10th wolf one, i like watching some old movies his done and other ones, his really good and cute.

Hack and Slash
07-21-2006, 05:47 AM
Okay...brace yourself.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3271/untue3.jpg
LMAO Good :) :up:

triplefive
07-21-2006, 09:21 AM
How did you see it? Just wondering.

It looks like it's been released to DVD in some parts of the world and there are places that pirate everything, so I happen to have it. (If it ever really comes out on DVD, I'd still buy the real copy just so whoever can get some royalties out of it.)

triplefive
07-21-2006, 09:24 AM
Whens that new movie coming out? The 10th wolf one, i like watching some old movies his done and other ones, his really good and cute.

Limited release August 18th in the US... that sometimes includes Toronto, so I might be okay.

I don't now about UK though.

abritt6145
07-21-2006, 05:34 PM
Here is a link if you want to download 10th and wolf. Don't wait until August 18th! It's a great movie and great quality! James is absolutely brilliant and totally sexy!
http://torrentportal.com/details/586849/10th.and.Wolf.DVDSCR.XviD-SAPHiRE%5Bwww.moviex.nn.cx%5D.torrent[/URL]
Make sure you have a torrent program such as utorrent (http://www.utorrent.com/download.php)
[URL="http://www.torrentz.com/search_10th-and-wolf"] (http://www.torrentz.com/search_10th-and-wolf)

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 05:43 PM
thanks man

triplefive
07-21-2006, 06:09 PM
FWIW, I'm sure the Alibi can be found on torrents, too.

I'm downloading 10th and Wolf, but if it comes out in your (general your) area when it's limited, and you're a fan of JM, you should still pay to see it.

triplefive
07-21-2006, 07:14 PM
Random caps from the Alibi that I found entertaining... backwards chronological because my computer thought it would be fun to upload them that way.
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2584/17rr9.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17rr9.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9051/16hg5.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16hg5.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1662/15sx6.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15sx6.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5471/14as8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14as8.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7654/13hq3.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13hq3.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9623/12jx8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12jx8.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4421/11hw8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11hw8.jpg)

triplefive
07-21-2006, 07:14 PM
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1874/10bw4.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10bw4.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3605/9zc8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9zc8.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8669/8kq1.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8kq1.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7593/7du8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7du8.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9270/6cb6.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6cb6.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3752/5om1.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5om1.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9348/4xo7.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4xo7.jpg)

triplefive
07-21-2006, 07:15 PM
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/107/3hz9.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3hz9.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9348/2io8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2io8.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5872/1wy8.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1wy8.jpg)

Mike059jig
07-21-2006, 07:25 PM
HolySh#T..more please..keep em coming..LoL

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 07:35 PM
that is so Emma frost...and im so turned on right now...

Oh and I defended her in a yahoo chat room...lol This chick name emma claims that isn't emma frost after I had posted a link to an image of emma frost and I told her that that she is and she is the white queen from the hellfire's club...

it started out like this...

takedtime: hey scott
Dark Scott (Cyclops): Hi
takedtime: wats up im emma

Dark Scott (Cyclops): ...
Dark Scott (Cyclops): Ur who?
Lins: Emma Frost? 0_o
takedtime: my name is emma im from ireland were u from
Dark Scott (Cyclops): you know I can almost hear Jean "Stay away from my boy!"

Lins: LOL!

takedtime: scott

Dark Scott (Cyclops): http://portalcomic.com/wallpapers/gifs/calendarios/wp_emma_frost_800.jpg
Dark Scott (Cyclops): ^^ That is Emma Frost


takedtime: no its not emma frost
Dark Scott (Cyclops): http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/3%20Non%20Elektra%20comics/Emma-Frost-5-new-background.jpg
Dark Scott (Cyclops): Yes it is

Dark Scott (Cyclops): Shes' the WHITE QUEEN for God Sakes
takedtime: no its not u mad ting lol
Dark Scott (Cyclops): and why am I Defending HER! I Don't like her!!

Dark Scott (Cyclops):
Jamie: Wow you know how to get me going!
Dark Scott (Cyclops): Do u even read the COMICS?
takedtime: were u from scott
Dark Scott (Cyclops): That is EMMA FROST WHO STEALS "CYCLOPS' from JEAN
Dark Scott (Cyclops): well sort of
Dark Scott (Cyclops): Canada

takedtime: no i wudn steal from any1

takedtime: canada tats a lovely place

Dark Scott (Cyclops): But not as frosted and ****ty like Emma Frost
Hallien Vampire Bride: imvu has a white queen costum to buy and wear


takedtime: i dont no emma frost but i can b ****y like her if u want me 2 scott


Dark Scott (Cyclops):

Dark Scott (Cyclops): oh wow? really?
teliehy left the room
takedtime: u better blve it
Dark Scott (Cyclops): uh...seriously?
Hallien Vampire Bride: ew
Dark Scott (Cyclops):
takedtime: i am pm me
takedtime: scott
Dark Scott (Cyclops): http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpp30199.jpg <--------Emma Frost
Amy: Anyone want to C2C?

Jamie: Size 34 is that good?
Dark Scott (Cyclops): shut up you bot
Lins: Why are we getting Emma Frost pics? 0_o

Dark Scott (Cyclops): Cause this emma claims that thats not emma frost...
Dark Scott (Cyclops): lol
Lins: It is.
Lins: 0_o

Dark Scott (Cyclops): and I defended Emma f rost for saying that she is and she is the white queen from the hellfire's club
Lins: Yah, she is.
Dark Scott (Cyclops): she dresses like a ****
Dark Scott (Cyclops): lol

...

triplefive
07-21-2006, 07:37 PM
Those are the only ones I plan on doing; sorry!

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 07:40 PM
and now im being hit on...oh god by an emma frost.

CapBeerCino
07-21-2006, 08:42 PM
I'm watching the x-men tas phoenix saga (hey, who knew they you-tubed it?) and I'm having much better time then in x-3 :p

The guy who up-loaded the file wrote "Phoenix Saga: You can't have a BAD Phoenix without the need for a GOOD Phoenix. And Jean Grey is not inherently the Phoenix. The Last Stand (X-Men 3) is garbage! The cartoon tells a better story than the movie."

:D

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 08:45 PM
Well lets just say for the record that Fox point blank screwed up on the Phoenix part of things...

CapBeerCino
07-21-2006, 08:50 PM
Well lets just say for the record that Fox point blank screwed up on the Phoenix part of things...

Agreed. By the way - am I the only one seeing this:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2584/17rr9.th.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2244/jamesxp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bexta89
07-21-2006, 08:51 PM
Well lets just say for the record that Fox point blank screwed up on the Phoenix part of things...


Yup, when they had Wolverine kill her instead of Cyclops. And no firebird when she rised from the lake. I keep replaying what Bryan Singer said in the X2 commentary about how what direction he would've taken the Phoenix storyline in....

Edit: Re CapBeerCino's post...either he likes that expression or....Lol.

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 08:54 PM
After all that when I had that dream of Jean rising ... man... it just blows X3 oout of the blue.

Mike059jig
07-21-2006, 09:10 PM
I seen a picture along time ago..that showed jean in a cocoon in the air above alkali lake that was about to explode in the Bird..like in December-January..It was in the Killer movies forum sometime I was on their

DarknessOfDeath
07-21-2006, 09:11 PM
Whoa really...? sounds like some nifty ... okay... I think Emma is getting inside my head... or trying to get me to open up...sound familiar?

oneteen
07-21-2006, 11:18 PM
Agreed. By the way - am I the only one seeing this:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2584/17rr9.th.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2244/jamesxp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
First reminded me of that too. They didn't use that angle in the movie though...:(

CapBeerCino
07-22-2006, 02:24 AM
First reminded me of that too. They didn't use that angle in the movie though...:(

I wonder what's taking place in the first pic to get Jimmy's character to scream like that?

ntcrawler
07-22-2006, 03:26 AM
The guy who up-loaded the file wrote "Phoenix Saga: You can't have a BAD Phoenix without the need for a GOOD Phoenix. And Jean Grey is not inherently the Phoenix. The Last Stand (X-Men 3) is garbage! The cartoon tells a better story than the movie."

:D

Gotta love the fans! There's no reason to make Jean inherently the Phoenix. As we mentioned before, those powers could just be her mutation reaching its natural conclusion. It's making her inherently evil and from the start that alot of people have problems with. Only vampires and Zombies are supposed to be that bad as soon as they die.

UraniaChang
07-22-2006, 05:05 AM
The guy who up-loaded the file wrote "Phoenix Saga: You can't have a BAD Phoenix without the need for a GOOD Phoenix. And Jean Grey is not inherently the Phoenix. The Last Stand (X-Men 3) is garbage! The cartoon tells a better story than the movie."

:D

Gotta love this guy who speaks the truth.

jcykeson
07-22-2006, 05:22 AM
u know, in that pic i thought that angle would potray his emotions better... i mean that seems more lasting in memory then have shot at a distance shouting..

Retroman
07-22-2006, 06:25 AM
Check this out (Superman Returns gag reel)

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. SUPERMAN had a big presence at the Con this year. Bryan Singer showed up with a gag reel and then up popped Richard Donner who brought one of his unreleased sequences from what he shot of SUPERMAN 2. Let's get started shall we? Gag reel first.

It starts off with a classic gag, Marlon Brando talking in close-up. He has the Jor-El hair and is wearing a black turtle neck, I'm assuming for effects reasons. He's giving a speech and then says, "You'll find such conviction within yourself, Kel-La.... Kal-El... Ralph... whatever you're called," then he busts out a laugh. Superman music starts up and we see lots of takes of young Clark in his "running past the cornfields" rig. He wipes out over and over again, getting up to running speed, then ending on his stomach, face in the ground.

Perry White: "Does he still stand for justice? Does he still stand for... what the **** does he stand for?" Richard White, holding Jason in his arms, "Close your eyes..." kid puts hands over his ears, like he's supposed to. (laughs) "Close your eyes? Cyclops?" Jimmy Olsen is standing in front of a large group of people. This is when he gets his big shots of Supes holding the Daily Planet. They're rolling and he says, "Oh, I'm supposed to look up..." he turns to the extras who are laughing at him, "I'm so funny! You guys did great, though..."

The Otis Theme starts to play around here and continues on through the rest of the gag reel. Another Jimmy Olsen, to Clark: "How pissed do you think Superman is?" Clark: "A lot." Jimmy nods. "He is a lot pissed."
Parker Posey this time, talking to the camera, Kevin Spacey next to her cracking up, "Let's keep it open. Let's just go. I mean, isn't it digital? So why are cutting all the time? Sorry. I must be in character." Kevin Spacey's face sudden darkens and he grows deathly serious and says in a stone cold voice, looking straight at camera, "So am I."

Next was another Lex moment. He goes in for a kick on Superman. Camera is low, pointing up. Can't see who he's kicking, but he runs up and kicks a little too real. "Oh, sorry. Did that really hit you? (Pause) I'm so sorry." Next is the slap from Kitty to Lex. Parker goes in for it and then stops herself. "I don't really want to hit you!" Off camera comes a voice, "He has asked that you hit him." Next take she slaps, but kind of pulls back and kinda makes it worse, knuckling Spacey in the chin. "I'm sorry!" Lex (sultry): "No, keep going!"

One of my favorite bits was that kitchen conversation between Lois and Richard. Kate Bosworth is facing camera, back to James Marsden. Richard, "That article that you wrote..." Lois, "Why The World Doesn't Need Superman?" Richard, "No, no, no. The article you wrote years ago, before that." Lois, "Which article? I was practically his press agent?" Richard, "I Sixty-Nined Superman." She cracks a huge grin, trying not to let it all out. "I Joined The Mile High Club With Superman. I Had Asphyxiated Sex With The Man Of Steel. He Ran The Vacuum Cable Around My Throat. I Ball-Gagged Superman." Lois wraps her dish towel around his mouth.

Superman himself: "I hope this experience hasn't turned on any of you..." stops, looks to camera, sheepish grin on his face.

Funny ****. Here are tidbits about the panel, including info on the SUPERMAN RETURNS sequel possibility, a mention of Brainiac by a fan and an... interesting response from Bryan and tons of trivia about SUPERMAN RETURNS.
Source: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23943

bexta89
07-22-2006, 07:50 PM
^ Bwahahahahahaha! OMG, hilarious. That sooo has to be on the DVD.

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 05:30 AM
I managed to get online for a while....

I did some screencaps for the 10th&Wolf trailer. Nothing much but....

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9582/01sq9.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7952/02tm1.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9683/03qr4.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2171/04zc0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1025/05af7.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8089/06rn5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7232/07pn7.jpg

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 05:31 AM
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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1737/09km9.jpg
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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2543/12vl8.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9827/13th4.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1020/14gp8.jpg

CapBeerCino
07-23-2006, 06:27 AM
Thanks S&J :up: hope you're having a good time :)

And lol @ the gag reel. :D

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:45 AM
I am. Here are some more....

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2921/15fn5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5664/16xm7.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6920/17qt9.jpg
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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4995/21zc2.jpg

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:47 AM
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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3585/28nl8.jpg

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:49 AM
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SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:50 AM
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SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:51 AM
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SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:52 AM
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http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3222/55ou9.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7605/56bh6.jpg

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:52 AM
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http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4929/63dj0.jpg

SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:54 AM
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http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5790/65ff6.jpg
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SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:54 AM
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9978/71pv2.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6962/72dz2.jpg
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SCOTT&JEAN
07-23-2006, 06:56 AM
And the last ones

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9074/78cd8.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5522/79aq1.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/414/80lf8.jpg

Bastila
07-23-2006, 11:07 AM
So the triler is out?, i will have to watch it.

MsNatchios
07-23-2006, 11:26 AM
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9978/71pv2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9200/24df4.jpg

Holy *&%$#@! hotness!

oneteen
07-23-2006, 12:46 PM
Must...see...that movie!!!

beccad5
07-23-2006, 02:40 PM
HOLY CRAP! HOT! :eek:

THE MOVIE LOOKS REALLY GOOD!!!!

bexta89
07-24-2006, 07:30 PM
Oh wow....must see that movie, even if I have to fly overseas, lol.

Mike059jig
07-24-2006, 07:49 PM
I seen James Marsden on the cover of some fitness Magazine today..i was so suprised

oneteen
07-24-2006, 07:57 PM
Yeah he's a hottie. :)

triplefive
07-24-2006, 07:58 PM
I seen James Marsden on the cover of some fitness Magazine today..i was so suprised
I scanned it and posted it several pages back if you want to read it.

Mike059jig
07-24-2006, 08:00 PM
Thanks WOW...lol I'm late

bexta89
07-24-2006, 09:18 PM
I was at work the other day, looking at the magazines, lol. We don't get Men's Fitness, we get Men's Health, and who was on the cover of the latest one? Hugh Jackman. Don't get me wrong, I like Hugh, but I'd much rather have Jimmy on the shelves.

triplefive
07-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Hugh looked great on that cover, but I don't like him enough to buy a magazine targeted towards men, lol.

PhePhe112
07-24-2006, 09:37 PM
the only reason i have the hugh one is because my b/f has a subscription to it. i bought the jimmy one myself lol.

ntcrawler
07-24-2006, 10:36 PM
I just realized something. Having Cyclops take part in the Alcatraz battle would not only help add a missing piece to the Jean puzzle, but it would help make a mockery out of Magneto's idiotic tactic of launching flaming cars at his opponents. Cyclops could easily blast them out of the sky faster than Magneto could hurl them. I think after 5 or 6, Magneto would realize just how pointless and stoopid his methods are. And again the look on his face would be worth it.

Bastila
07-25-2006, 03:38 AM
I just realized something. Having Cyclops take part in the Alcatraz battle would not only help add a missing piece to the Jean puzzle, but it would help make a mockery out of Magneto's idiotic tactic of launching flaming cars at his opponents. Cyclops could easily blast them out of the sky faster than Magneto could hurl them. I think after 5 or 6, Magneto would realize just how pointless and stoopid his methods are. And again the look on his face would be worth it.

Good point that would have been funny.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 03:51 AM
mag goes WTF???

Vilya
07-25-2006, 08:25 AM
I just realized something. Having Cyclops take part in the Alcatraz battle would not only help add a missing piece to the Jean puzzle, but it would help make a mockery out of Magneto's idiotic tactic of launching flaming cars at his opponents. Cyclops could easily blast them out of the sky faster than Magneto could hurl them. I think after 5 or 6, Magneto would realize just how pointless and stoopid his methods are. And again the look on his face would be worth it.

Yes! i can imagine the impact that would have, instead of the Xmen running for cover.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 08:54 AM
Hey X-men!!! magneto's outta cars!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 08:55 AM
opps forgot the part he goes...

Magneto! learn to recycle! use plastic!

Turns out to be a government advert!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 08:55 AM
opps forgot the part he goes...

Magneto! learn to recycle! use plastic!

Turns out to be a government advert!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 08:55 AM
opps forgot the part he goes...

Magneto! learn to recycle! use plastic!

Turns out to be a government advert!
* soz Lagged

How to remove post?

DarknessOfDeath
07-25-2006, 09:31 AM
Just edit your posts....

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 10:17 AM
and then? remove all the words?

ntcrawler
07-25-2006, 10:53 AM
Yes! i can imagine the impact that would have, instead of the Xmen running for cover.

Pyro: "Got any other ideas, Magneto?

Magneto: "They learn fast... Damn it, Charles!"

I thought this sequence could end with Cyclops doing one of his famous ricochet shots, bouncing his beam off of something behind Magneto and knocking him and Pyro off their feet.

Magneto in disbelief, says "But Charles told her... He said she killed you!!" Cyclops grins and replies "Until you find the body, don't give up!!!"

ntcrawler
07-25-2006, 10:54 AM
Hey X-men!!! magneto's outta cars!

Haha, I think that's the idea. He's gonna run out of cars to throw at them. What then, Magneto?

jcykeson
07-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Ah, he can always throw Wolvie for Scott to blast...

DarknessOfDeath
07-25-2006, 09:12 PM
^^ hahaha.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 09:21 PM
Na the Golden Gate Bridge...

Whilst singing

The Golden Gate Bridge is falling down... Falling Down, falling down...

The Golden Gate bridge is falling down upon X-mens!

lol...

AznBABYBANDIT
07-25-2006, 09:26 PM
Ah, he can always throw Wolvie for Scott to blast...


Scott... Sorry Wolverine, Jeans mine! X-men = My show... Me= more screen time! Blast off! *takes of Visor*

Wolverine... Nooooooooooooooooooooooo( like darth Vader Ep3 ) wait... i can heal.... dances in the blast!

*Pants falls off* * RUNS OFF*

ntcrawler
07-25-2006, 09:56 PM
Na the Golden Gate Bridge...

Whilst singing

The Golden Gate Bridge is falling down... Falling Down, falling down...

The Golden Gate bridge is falling down upon X-mens!

lol...


Wait, you forgot one thing. The maniacal laughter. All great villains must have a maniacal laughter as they watch their doomsday plan go into action.

UraniaChang
07-25-2006, 10:21 PM
For all Magneto's magnetic powers, this is really a wonder he never actually kills Wolverine...Why can't Magneto just be kind enough to do it once for my own a little satisfaction?

ntcrawler
07-25-2006, 10:26 PM
Na the Golden Gate Bridge...

Whilst singing

The Golden Gate Bridge is falling down... Falling Down, falling down...

The Golden Gate bridge is falling down upon X-mens!

lol...


Actually that's not a bad idea. Seeing that he's losing hes precious "war", Magneto gets fed up and picks up the whole Golden Gate Bridge again to drop it all on Alcatraz and Worthington Labs and crush those do-gooders down there:

"Try blasting THIS, Cyclops!!!"

AznBABYBANDIT
07-26-2006, 03:00 AM
Mag: Pyro, Help me light this brdge. They need a taste of some roasted GGB and i can't hold on much longer.

Pyro: K

As he get his light, he found out... His whole hand was frozen...

Bobby: Sorry Magneto.

Magneto: Argh I can't.....n't hold on much longer...

Storm: I'll Help you! * she fries maggi *

Wolverine: All theese fighting makes me hungry! Some magnetosandwich won't hurt!

bexta89
07-26-2006, 03:52 AM
This was in my inbox tonight:


Superheroes Hate James Marsden

James Marsden has the unique distinction of being in four of the
biggest superhero movies of the last 10 years: "X-Men," "X2," X-Men:
The Last Stand" and "Superman Returns."
Unfortunately, Marsden also has the unique distinction of being the
most put upon actor in superhero history. He's made a career out of
playing the morally-upright good guy whose desire for a happy home
is thwarted by a cooler and/or more potent superhero rival.

Consider the evidence:

In the "X-Men" films all Cyclops (Marsden) ever wants is to settle
down with Jean Grey and raise a couple telekinetic kids who can blow
the **** out of stuff with their eyes. But noooooo ... Wolverine
saunters in and chops Cyclops' idyllic life to shreds with his
adamantium claws and those ridiculous cheek muffs. Worst still, Jean
sacrifices herself in "X2" and then comes back to life as the badass
mutant Phoenix. "Hey honey, I'm home ... and I'm evil!"

Verdict: Cyclops = X-Tool.

In "Superman Returns" Marsden is Richard White, a true-blue fiancee
who has admirably stepped in to take care of glory-hound Pulitzer
winner Lois Lane and her inhaler-snorting son. All Richard wants is
to live in his far-too-nice-for-a-reporter seaside home with his
neurotic fiancee and her moppy-haired kid. BUT NOOOOOOOO ...
Superman returns after a five-year vacation and before you know it,
Lois is floating over Metropolis with the Man of Steel while Richard
fetches take-out for Lois and her friggin kid. Oh sure,
Richard "technically" gets Lois, but it's a temporary gig. When
the "Superman" sequel rolls around, you just know Richard is
targeted for a freak sea-plane accident, or maybe he'll fall into
the clutches of Lex Luthor and spend the entire film being tortured
in a subterranean lair.

Verdict: Richard = Superman's Underoos.

Marsden has paid the price, run through the fire, jumped through all
the hoops and tackled all those other do-gooder cliches. He
deserves -- nay, requires -- an R-rated superhero role that lets him
spout snarky lines, kick massive ass, and steal some noob's gorgeous
girlfriend. James Marsden, your time is now! -- Mac Slocum

source:
http://www.filmfodder.com/comics/archives/2006/07/superheroes_hate_ja (http://www.filmfodder.com/comics/archives/2006/07/superheroes_hate_ja)
mes_marsden.shtml

AznBABYBANDIT
07-26-2006, 04:31 AM
hmmm Superman's Underoos gotta get one of that!

triplefive
07-26-2006, 10:27 AM
t4p, bexta! I agree with the editorial... he needs a good, gritty role.

I'm guessing that his cartoon movie and perhaps Enchanted he took for his childrens' sake... if you look through his list of movies, none of them are exactly kid-friendly. They've probably barely seen their dad in action!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-26-2006, 10:29 AM
me agree too, but i guess... triple... let me speak first next, it's like you're reading my thoughts

larryfilmmaker
07-26-2006, 10:45 AM
Well, look who made a cameo in our newest cartoon...

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/iamsafari/Cyclops.jpg




You can see the preview for it and more news at Bullcrank.com After the shaft he got in the movies, we had to help the guy out. haha, originally Wolverine was this part, and I had the animator cut him out and replace him with Cyclops ... sweet justice

triplefive
07-26-2006, 10:48 AM
larryfilmmaker, just so you know, the URL in your sig needs an http:// infront of it. :)


me agree too, but i guess... triple... let me speak first next, it's like you're reading my thoughts

Clearly, you posted before I did in response to that article, so you had your chance to speak first.

larryfilmmaker
07-26-2006, 11:06 AM
larryfilmmaker, just so you know, the URL in your sig needs an http:// infront of it. :)




Clearly, you posted before I did in response to that article, so you had your chance to speak first.


thanks alot and your sig is probably the best ever... makes a good point and also makes me slightly homophobic and afraid of Colossus haha

ntcrawler
07-26-2006, 11:08 AM
You can see the preview for it and more news at Bullcrank.com After the shaft he got in the movies, we had to help the guy out. haha, originally Wolverine was this part, and I had the animator cut him out and replace him with Cyclops ... sweet justice

Haha, it's so true. They're facing their greatest, most diabolical threat ever: bad, evil writers. Only the fans can save them now!

LastSunrise1981
07-26-2006, 11:14 AM
*sigh* :( :(

http://www.zebramagazine.com/uploads/Mutantm20050301uncanny136.jpg

What could've/should've been. I can never stop thinking about this classic pose whenever I think of X3. It's one of the things that has left me bitter about The Last Stand as a whole.

Bad writing, no character development, and politics ruined what could've been the most emotional, darkest, and powerful movie out of the trilogy.

DarknessOfDeath
07-26-2006, 11:27 AM
-sighs- I can fix that...in my story...

triplefive
07-26-2006, 11:29 AM
thanks alot and your sig is probably the best ever... makes a good point and also makes me slightly homophobic and afraid of Colossus haha
Ultimate Colossus is awesome :(

ntcrawler
07-26-2006, 11:44 AM
*sigh* :( :(

http://www.zebramagazine.com/uploads/Mutantm20050301uncanny136.jpg

What could've/should've been. I can never stop thinking about this classic pose whenever I think of X3. It's one of the things that has left me bitter about The Last Stand as a whole.


That would have been more appropriate, yes. But I dunno man, I'm starting to lean for an ending that involves that photo manip of Scott sitting over an unconcious Jean in the infirmary. Dead characters can tell no more tales, and let's face it the way the whole Phoenix concept was set up in X3 there had been alot more alternatives available to avoid death in the films than in the comics, only a shame they didn't act on it.

BTW, What's that one X-Men cover I saw with a Phoenix holding the body of a dead Cyclops in the same pose as above but with Magneto hovering over them in the background? Fanart? Or some kind of "what-if" alternative story?


Bad writing, no character development, and politics ruined what could've been the most emotional, darkest, and powerful movie out of the trilogy.

Just remember: it was all a dream. A bad dream for us, and for Scott. He'll wake up from that nightmare.

Bastila
07-26-2006, 01:43 PM
Oh i wished it was like that cover, so sad.

UraniaChang
07-26-2006, 09:46 PM
This was in my inbox tonight:


Superheroes Hate James Marsden

James Marsden has the unique distinction of being in four of the
biggest superhero movies of the last 10 years: "X-Men," "X2," X-Men:
The Last Stand" and "Superman Returns."
Unfortunately, Marsden also has the unique distinction of being the
most put upon actor in superhero history. He's made a career out of
playing the morally-upright good guy whose desire for a happy home
is thwarted by a cooler and/or more potent superhero rival.

Consider the evidence:

In the "X-Men" films all Cyclops (Marsden) ever wants is to settle
down with Jean Grey and raise a couple telekinetic kids who can blow
the **** out of stuff with their eyes. But noooooo ... Wolverine
saunters in and chops Cyclops' idyllic life to shreds with his
adamantium claws and those ridiculous cheek muffs. Worst still, Jean
sacrifices herself in "X2" and then comes back to life as the badass
mutant Phoenix. "Hey honey, I'm home ... and I'm evil!"

Verdict: Cyclops = X-Tool.

In "Superman Returns" Marsden is Richard White, a true-blue fiancee
who has admirably stepped in to take care of glory-hound Pulitzer
winner Lois Lane and her inhaler-snorting son. All Richard wants is
to live in his far-too-nice-for-a-reporter seaside home with his
neurotic fiancee and her moppy-haired kid. BUT NOOOOOOOO ...
Superman returns after a five-year vacation and before you know it,
Lois is floating over Metropolis with the Man of Steel while Richard
fetches take-out for Lois and her friggin kid. Oh sure,
Richard "technically" gets Lois, but it's a temporary gig. When
the "Superman" sequel rolls around, you just know Richard is
targeted for a freak sea-plane accident, or maybe he'll fall into
the clutches of Lex Luthor and spend the entire film being tortured
in a subterranean lair.

Verdict: Richard = Superman's Underoos.

Marsden has paid the price, run through the fire, jumped through all
the hoops and tackled all those other do-gooder cliches. He
deserves -- nay, requires -- an R-rated superhero role that lets him
spout snarky lines, kick massive ass, and steal some noob's gorgeous
girlfriend. James Marsden, your time is now! -- Mac Slocum

source:
http://www.filmfodder.com/comics/archives/2006/07/superheroes_hate_ja (http://www.filmfodder.com/comics/archives/2006/07/superheroes_hate_ja)
mes_marsden.shtml

I really like this article...:)

UraniaChang
07-26-2006, 10:04 PM
Sometimes I think those filmmakers all try to rule against James, I mean a guy who actually can act and sing as well, not to mention his looks, I don't see why they are so reluctant to give him a decent role except those independent films. (Though I love these indie films, I want to see him shine on the big screen too.)

DarknessOfDeath
07-26-2006, 10:15 PM
Me too.

oneteen
07-26-2006, 10:16 PM
He was supposed to take the lead role in a movie called "Preacher", which was also based on a comic but it never got picked up.

triplefive
07-26-2006, 10:33 PM
Yeah, that would have been really interesting to see bc Preacher is a really dark character.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-26-2006, 10:38 PM
yeah!

Vilya
07-27-2006, 02:34 AM
Another variation of the same pose from endsong.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1190/pheonixendsong4pl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


*sigh* :( :(

http://www.zebramagazine.com/uploads/Mutantm20050301uncanny136.jpg

What could've/should've been. I can never stop thinking about this classic pose whenever I think of X3. It's one of the things that has left me bitter about The Last Stand as a whole.

Bad writing, no character development, and politics ruined what could've been the most emotional, darkest, and powerful movie out of the trilogy.

ntcrawler
07-27-2006, 02:41 AM
^^^ now *THAT* is different!!! Well done, Vilya! Well done!!!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-27-2006, 02:49 AM
indeed,wait till jean sees that...

ntcrawler
07-27-2006, 03:10 AM
indeed,wait till jean sees that...

Actually, she probably fantasized about seeing that :D

AznBABYBANDIT
07-27-2006, 03:20 AM
:d Lol

Vilya
07-27-2006, 03:55 AM
^^^ now *THAT* is different!!! Well done, Vilya! Well done!!!

Its from Phoenix Endsong :) i didn't draw that one.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-27-2006, 04:00 AM
Still nice ^_^

narrows101
07-27-2006, 08:37 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19210

James Marsden Applies Hairspray
Cyclops joins movie musical

Dying by the hand of your super-powered lover is easy. Especially when you do it off-screen. Now it’s time to find out if X-Men’s James Marsden can sing and dance.

The man formerly known as Cyclops has been added to what can only be described as the sprawling Hairspray cast. He’ll play Corny Collins, the host and dreamboat star of the dance TV show that our heroine, Tracy Turnblad, dreams of appearing on. Let's hope Wolverine's been giving him song and dance lessons.

You know the rest – John Travolta in a dress, Queen Latifah, Adam Shankman directing, release date set for summer next year…

AznBABYBANDIT
07-27-2006, 08:39 AM
Dun Battle me out... It's in the Junior Novel.

Pg 64

"Jean... Do you know where Scott is?: Wolverine Question

"What do you mean?"she replied. The questioned trobled he. She became confused. "Where am I?"

" What Happened to Scott?" Wolverine Demanded

Suddenly, horrifyingimages came crashing back to her. She started to tremble. "Oh, no!" She Shreiked " I couldn't have..."

"Tell me" Wolverine said.

"I killed him" she whispered. "I didn't mean to. But my power... was too much for him."

Scott Died...

AznBABYBANDIT
07-27-2006, 08:42 AM
James Marsden Applies Hairspray
Cyclops joins movie musical

Dying by the hand of your super-powered lover is easy. Especially when you do it off-screen. Now it’s time to find out if X-Men’s James Marsden can sing and dance.

The man formerly known as Cyclops has been added to what can only be described as the sprawling Hairspray cast. He’ll play Corny Collins, the host and dreamboat star of the dance TV show that our heroine, Tracy Turnblad, dreams of appearing on. Let's hope Wolverine's been giving him song and dance lessons.

You know the rest – John Travolta in a dress, Queen Latifah, Adam Shankman directing, release date set for summer next year…

Wow... He can sing + dance?

narrows101
07-27-2006, 09:18 AM
Wow... He can sing + dance?
Someone on the Broadway message board said they heard him sing when he made a guest appearance on the TV show Ally McBeal a few years ago and he was pretty good.

Everyone is doing these Broadway musicals except the Tony Award winning one (Hugh of course)!!! I know he's got some in the pipeline but I have no patience.

Vilya
07-27-2006, 09:59 AM
And here's my version ... JEAN!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/photoshare108/xmen.jpg

DarknessOfDeath
07-27-2006, 10:02 AM
My god. Thats f***ing Beautiful!!

triplefive
07-27-2006, 10:05 AM
wow, you are just. so. awesome. at those, vilya!!

Vilya
07-27-2006, 10:11 AM
Thank u guys!

Bastila
07-27-2006, 01:29 PM
So anyone else hear the new news about James im so happy i love musicals big west end fan and he is going to be in Hairspray which is funy. - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19210

triplefive
07-27-2006, 01:43 PM
So anyone else hear the new news about James im so happy i love musicals big west end fan and he is going to be in Hairspray which is funy. - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19210
Thanks for posting that!

I hope it happens, that'll be great!

bexta89
07-27-2006, 08:09 PM
So anyone else hear the new news about James im so happy i love musicals big west end fan and he is going to be in Hairspray which is funy. - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19210


:eek: Ooook then. :D

LMason
07-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Have you guys not experienced James's singing on YouTube? Get on over there and check his voice out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av0Gsnjn5jw&search=james%20marsden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HUTsDvdLI&search=james%20marsden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfYksHIUduc&search=james%20marsden%20ally

bexta89
07-28-2006, 12:46 AM
Oh, I've heard him singing, and he's wonderful. I'm just trying to picture him in the Hairspray role....is it anything like Grease? Or not?

oneteen
07-28-2006, 01:29 AM
And here's my version ... JEAN!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/photoshare108/xmen.jpg
Great drawing!!! Do you do this on the computer or on paper?

muscaremy
07-28-2006, 01:32 AM
i just watched him and betty brant in heights....was so not ready to see cyclops makin out with another dude...

DarknessOfDeath
07-28-2006, 07:36 AM
LOL ... :p

triplefive
07-28-2006, 09:44 AM
i just watched him and betty brant in heights....was so not ready to see cyclops makin out with another dude...
Who's Betty Brant?

I love that movie... it's one of my favourites. And it was hardly a makeout -- there was no tongue. ;)


ETA: nm, just remembered that Elizabeth Banks plays Brant in Spidey.

The Batman
07-28-2006, 09:51 AM
muscaremy, did you see it on starz, like i did?

that was an interesting film. Did marsden's character really love Banks character? Or is he just in denial?

triplefive
07-28-2006, 09:55 AM
muscaremy, did you see it on starz, like i did?

that was an interesting film. Did marsden's character really love Banks character? Or is he just in denial?
I think he really loved her. And it wasn't quite denial... I think the film tried to emphasize how they were best friends. We don't really ever see them being physical in a couply way, (except for the one aborted time when she has Alex's jacket and I'm assuming he's reminded of him... or he's just trying to distract her?) but they can talk, she relies on his support, etc. So he loves her as a best friend, but maybe not like he would fall in love with Alex (if that's his name, I forget already)

MaleRogue
07-28-2006, 09:57 AM
Cyclops Dying The Song,

THAT'S THE WAY UHU UHU I LIKE IT UHU UHU YEAH THAT THE WAY UHU UHU I LIKE IT :d

triplefive
07-28-2006, 10:07 AM
Cyclops Dying The Song,

THAT'S THE WAY UHU UHU I LIKE IT UHU UHU YEAH THAT THE WAY UHU UHU I LIKE IT :d
um what?

Could you please repeat yourself, and make sense this time?

MaleRogue
07-28-2006, 10:14 AM
Sorry...
I am a little hyped sorry....
Was just kidding...
Cyclops died and all.... and I like it.... it was a joke ;)

muscaremy
07-28-2006, 02:18 PM
yea think it was starz i taped wit my dvr i need to watch the beginning sometime later......to me it seemed like good ole cyke was just one confused mofo

The Batman
07-28-2006, 02:39 PM
Sorry...
I am a little hyped sorry....
Was just kidding...
Cyclops died and all.... and I like it.... it was a joke ;)


It wasnt funny.

Just letting you know. And I absolutely loved it when rogue showed her cowardace by taking the cure....at least Scott had the spine to live with his mutation...

Bastila
07-28-2006, 02:41 PM
It wasnt funny.

Just letting you know. And I absolutely loved it when rogue showed her cowardace by taking the cure....at least Scott had the spine to live with his mutation...

Ouch lol, that was funny though.

danoyse
07-28-2006, 05:01 PM
So anyone else hear the new news about James im so happy i love musicals big west end fan and he is going to be in Hairspray which is funy. - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19210

Yeah, narrows posted it too. :)

I've seen "Hairspray" on Broadway twice, he will GREAT in that role! He's playing Corny Collins, who hosts "The Corny Collins Show," which is sort of like an American Bandstand dance show.

The show takes place in 1962, and it's about this overweight girl who wants to be one of the dancers on the Corny Collins show, which at the time is totally segregated. So she stages this whole protest to get onto the show. The music is great, and it's got an AWESOME finale--which takes place live on the dance show, which he's definitely a part of.

And he plays a good guy--Corny wants to let anyone on the show, it's the evil producer (who's daughter is the star) who's keeping the show split.

That's awesome news!!! :)

Bastila
07-28-2006, 05:17 PM
I saw the film and liked it and i have heard the soundtrack and liked it, but it has never been over ast the West End but it is rumored to be this year.

danoyse
07-28-2006, 05:18 PM
I saw the film and liked it and i have heard the soundtrack and liked it, but it has never been over ast the West End but it is rumored to be this year.

I can't believe it hasn't opened there yet. They opened it in Vegas this year and it flopped, they should have opened it in London instead.

Definitely see it if it comes there, it's really fun show!!

triplefive
07-28-2006, 06:19 PM
I was ripping a deleted scene from X1 for DoD and thought I'd just rip and upload the Cyke-related scenes as well.

Teaching mechanics:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27386466/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_2.avi.html

Extended bedroom conversation:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27385831/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_4.avi.html

Showing Logan his uniform:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27384974/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_6.avi.html


Enjoy!

DarknessOfDeath
07-28-2006, 06:26 PM
I was ripping a deleted scene from X1 for DoD and thought I'd just rip and upload the Cyke-related scenes as well.

Teaching mechanics:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27386466/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_2.avi.html

Extended bedroom conversation:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27385831/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_4.avi.html

Showing Logan his uniform:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27384974/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_6.avi.html


Enjoy!

Sweet. thanks. these would be great for my Ultimate Jean Grey Video.

Angamb
07-28-2006, 07:11 PM
probably most of you have seen it, but here there is a video of all the Cyclops scenes in the trilogy, like a videoclip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0MgUwNxi0&NR

It's nice to have the sense that the trilogy was around him.

triplefive
07-28-2006, 07:38 PM
probably most of you have seen it, but here there is a video of all the Cyclops scenes in the trilogy, like a videoclip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0MgUwNxi0&NR

It's nice to have the sense that the trilogy was around him.
Did you link the right one? Because that's a Cyclops movie video set to My Hero by Foo Fighters.

Angamb
07-28-2006, 07:51 PM
yes, is that. is good, including with the song.

triplefive
07-28-2006, 07:59 PM
Did you link the right one? Because that's a Cyclops movie video set to My Hero by Foo Fighters.
That's not exactly a video of all the Cyclops scenes in the trilogy... that would be a bit longer, heh.


It's a pretty good video.

EDIT: I don't think I was paying attention when I wrote that. I meant that it's an okay video.

The Punisher
07-28-2006, 08:21 PM
It's an alright video.

Angamb
07-28-2006, 08:42 PM
haha. what I was meaning the most is the sense I got that the films were centered on him, something that happened with Logan, but this time Scott been the center. that's why I liked it.

oneteen
07-28-2006, 10:33 PM
I searched Cyclops on youtube and came across one that showed how much he was a "wuss". :( I'm not posting it.

ntcrawler
07-28-2006, 10:39 PM
I LOVE Clip #4. Not only do we see Jean stand up and defend Scott before Logan gets too fresh and cocky, but it gives Scott just that extra oomph to show he has the confidence and balls to stand up to Logan and have the last word. A shame that didn't make the cut!

UraniaChang
07-29-2006, 01:31 AM
I searched Cyclops on youtube and came across one that showed how much he was a "wuss". :( I'm not posting it.

I always wondering just how much of a man the person is when he called somebody a wuss?

oneteen
07-29-2006, 01:35 AM
I LOVE Clip #4. Not only do we see Jean stand up and defend Scott before Logan gets too fresh and cocky, but it gives Scott just that extra oomph to show he has the confidence and balls to stand up to Logan and have the last word. A shame that didn't make the cut!
#4? I thought there were only 3 that were posted.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 01:39 AM
The filename is 4.

oneteen
07-29-2006, 01:41 AM
Gotcha. How do I download it? It keeps saying it needs an upload path.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 01:44 AM
The only one I didn't upload is the first deleted scene. There are two others not posted here that I posted in the Jean thread.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 01:47 AM
Gotcha. How do I download it? It keeps saying it needs an upload path.
Umm on the first page, scroll down and click "free", and then on the second page wait 30 seconds and link will show up in the middle of the page.

Rapidshare is stupid for that, but it's still the fastest download.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 01:49 AM
Sweet. thanks. these would be great for my Ultimate Jean Grey Video.
no prob, for I think a third time or something.


:)

ntcrawler
07-29-2006, 01:59 AM
Hey triplefive, Video #6, the one where Scott tells Logan to put on a uniform... is there more to it? Because it cuts off abruptly at a point where you KNOW it's screaming for a punchline.

Scott: "put this on"
Logan: [looks at it] "Who's is it?"
Scott: "it's one of mine"

You just KNOW Logan's going to say something to that. I need to know what he says!!! :)

triplefive
07-29-2006, 02:03 AM
Hey triplefive, Video #6, the one where Scott tells Logan to put on a uniform... is there more to it? Because it cuts off abruptly at a point where you KNOW it's screaming for a punchline.

Scott: "put this on"
Logan: [looks at it] "Who's is it?"
Scott: "it's one of mine"

You just KNOW Logan's going to say something to that. I need to know what he says!!! :)
Um, it's possible. The encoder was messing up.

I'll check it out tomorrow. It might also just be that way because they normally would have faded out or something and just didn't add in the effect.

CapBeerCino
07-29-2006, 02:45 AM
Hey triplefive, Video #6, the one where Scott tells Logan to put on a uniform... is there more to it?

Nope. That's where it ends.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 02:53 AM
^ Yeah, that's what I thought but I didn't want to head down to my living room to find the DVD to make sure. :up:

ntcrawler
07-29-2006, 02:55 AM
^ Yeah, that's what I thought but I didn't want to head down to my living room to find the DVD to make sure. :up:

Awww, That makes it a disappointing scene. A joke without a punchline.

CapBeerCino
07-29-2006, 03:12 AM
Awww, That makes it a disappointing scene. A joke without a punchline.

I think the look on Logan's face serves as a pretty good punch line. The following scene is Logan in the jet trying to fit the collar and the "yellow spendex" bit - that could work if they didn't cut the ready room scene.

Edit: The scene also works good with another cut scene where Scott talks to the professor saying Logan won't take his orders and the professor say 'try give him orders worth following'.

I think that leaving those sences in the movie would've established Cyke as the leader (it was never said out loud- a friend of mine who knows only the movies didn't understand he was the field leader) and maybe change his fate in x-2 and x-3.

ntcrawler
07-29-2006, 03:25 AM
I think the look on Logan's face serves as a pretty good punch line. The following scene is Logan in the jet trying to fit the collar and the "yellow spendex" bit - that could work if they didn't cut the ready room scene.

Edit: The scene also works good with another cut scene where Scott talks to the professor saying Logan won't take his orders and the professor say 'try give him orders worth following'.


I understand. Logan does start to make a face, just that they didn't hold the camera on him long enough I thought. :)

I think that leaving those sences in the movie would've established Cyke as the leader (it was never said out loud- a friend of mine who knows only the movies didn't understand he was the field leader) and maybe change his fate in x-2 and x-3.
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Absolutely! Each of these scenes helps and gives the chars that necessary boost. Especially now since we're so starved for material and footage.

Bastila
07-29-2006, 02:29 PM
That Scott vid is cool i love the song i use to have it i want it again!! lol.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 02:39 PM
The thread search tool isn't working for me right now and I can't remember if this has been posted.

Watch the 10th & Wolf trailer @ Google Video (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1860220865563385063&q=type%3Aca_gpick)


It looks GREAT. I can't wait to see it.

ETA: Oh, I'm pretty sure the trailer has been on the official site the whole time. gg me.

Bastila
07-29-2006, 02:42 PM
^
thanks for the link, it looks good.

Pizzaboy1138
07-29-2006, 02:45 PM
Scott: "put this on"
Logan: [looks at it] "Who's is it?"
Scott: "it's one of mine"

You just KNOW Logan's going to say something to that. I need to know what he says!!! :)

Logan: "It's too wide for me in the nether regions."

triplefive
07-29-2006, 02:50 PM
Logan: "It's too wide for me in the nether regions."
ROFL! hahaha, winner.

Bastila
07-29-2006, 02:53 PM
^
I love that clip why wasn't it in the film it was funny.

triplefive
07-29-2006, 02:59 PM
^
I love that clip why wasn't it in the film it was funny.
Probably a pacing thing... it would have slowed down the "let's move now!!!" sort of moment before they left for New York.

Plus it wouldn't have made sense since Logan's costume ends up having yellow stripes -- and why would Cyclops have a suit with yellow stripes when all the rest of his are blue?

oneteen
07-29-2006, 03:08 PM
Logan: "It's too wide for me in the nether regions."
LOL. I can't think of a comeback for Scott.

ntcrawler
07-29-2006, 04:10 PM
LOL. I can't think of a comeback for Scott.

"It's either this or the yellow spandex hostage costume we use for training."

bexta89
07-29-2006, 08:32 PM
"It's either this or the yellow spandex hostage costume we use for training."


I could just se Logan going,

"Does it have a matching mask?"

DarknessOfDeath
07-29-2006, 08:35 PM
Probably a pacing thing... it would have slowed down the "let's move now!!!" sort of moment before they left for New York.

Plus it wouldn't have made sense since Logan's costume ends up having yellow stripes -- and why would Cyclops have a suit with yellow stripes when all the rest of his are blue?


by the sound of his voice...I can kinda tell he was just joking..perhaps? lol. :p I like it when he jokes around... hehe especially when he says "What would you rather wear? Yellow spandex?" lol :p

gambitfire
07-29-2006, 08:59 PM
I could just se Logan going,

"Does it have a matching mask?"

why, don't tell me he needs it too make his face look pretty too! :p

oneteen
07-29-2006, 11:08 PM
I wonder what it would look like if Wolvie DID have that yellow (or orange?) and black mask. I'm happy they didn't do the mask on Cyke...it would look too Spiderman-ish. Plus, I like Jimmy's set of hair. Esp. in X2. :)

UraniaChang
07-29-2006, 11:40 PM
Probably the only superheroes on screen who look good with a mask are Spiderman and Batman....can't think of them without one

AznBABYBANDIT
07-29-2006, 11:59 PM
other sux with mask trust me

oneteen
07-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Yeah but I'm curious to know what it would look like.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-30-2006, 12:11 AM
Jean with the mask? Bleh...

Hack and Slash
07-30-2006, 12:15 AM
I wonder what it would look like if Wolvie DID have that yellow (or orange?) and black mask. I'm happy they didn't do the mask on Cyke...it would look too Spiderman-ish. Plus, I like Jimmy's set of hair. Esp. in X2. :)
that will look bad :( :down

UraniaChang
07-30-2006, 12:22 AM
There is a Scott Summers Music Video (including clips of disturbing behavior)

http://community.livejournal.com/cyclops_fans/

You can find it with the title:Au Cyclops vid

oneteen
07-30-2006, 01:35 AM
Cool thanks!

bexta89
07-30-2006, 03:21 AM
OMG, awesome video!

Hulkster
07-30-2006, 03:29 AM
I made a pic of Movie Cyke optic blasting Wolverine, can somebody make it into a gif?
Here is the link.
http://rapidshare.de/files/27523989/Cyclops.zip.html

Stripesy Strip
07-30-2006, 06:40 AM
*sigh* :( :(

http://www.zebramagazine.com/uploads/Mutantm20050301uncanny136.jpg

What could've/should've been. I can never stop thinking about this classic pose whenever I think of X3. It's one of the things that has left me bitter about The Last Stand as a whole.

Bad writing, no character development, and politics ruined what could've been the most emotional, darkest, and powerful movie out of the trilogy.

*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

LadyVader
07-30-2006, 07:00 AM
See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should. Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

Stripesy Strip
07-30-2006, 07:06 AM
Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should. Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

LadyVader
07-30-2006, 07:12 AM
Those fans are fans for a reason, not just because. What part of "essence of a character" or "essence of a story" do you not understand? Change it around, make it modern, make it cinematic... but don't change the basic concept of the character. It's not boring. It's good storytelling.

Batman Begins did borrow a lot from Year one, as for the original concepts (Rachel Dawes, the microwave plot)... well they were inferior, not to mention stupid.

As is the case with most comic book movies today. What the writers dream up is inferior to the original story. If you want weak plots, that make no sense but involve lots of action, that is your problem. But don't insult the people that want more, and don't encourage producers to crap out these movies either.

Hulkster
07-30-2006, 08:44 AM
*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

Are you day dreaming?:) There is nothing new about Wolverine's lust for Jean it's been going for years. Did you get stuck in time or something? It seems like 1 minute is 1 year for you.:)

ntcrawler
07-30-2006, 11:58 AM
Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.


:up: Very well said M'Lady!

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should.

Well then when you change all that, how is that keeping the characters when there isn't enough of the character left?


Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

Exactly. Not only that but they didn't even keep it consistent across all 3 films. the only thing connecting X3 to X2 is Jean's resurrection. Everything else was changed so much it's nearly impossibly to accept this is a trilogy. It's more like 2 films plus a one-shot what-if spinoff.

ntcrawler
07-30-2006, 12:02 PM
*Yawn*

Been there, done that.


Did you remember to get the t-shirt?


At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.


Oh they were? And what powers were those since it's clear since the first day he appeared in the comics in 1975 that his powers DO NOT WORK THAT fast? He was regrowing major parts of his body almost instantly as fast as Phoenix could rip them off.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying).

What else would you prefer? Make her go blind and leave the X-men along with Scott between movies?


Why would we want the same damn thing?


So that we know we're watching X-men and not FOX's Wolverine and his annoying friends.


We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

No, the real joy is having the comics you've grown up with and are familiar with being brought to life on screen with real people.

ntcrawler
07-30-2006, 12:07 PM
Those fans are fans for a reason, not just because. What part of "essence of a character" or "essence of a story" do you not understand?


You understand that, I understand that, lots of fans here understand that. It's obivously FOX and the popcorn crowd who don't understand or appreciate that.

Change it around, make it modern, make it cinematic... but don't change the basic concept of the character. It's not boring. It's good storytelling.

Exactly. Do what needs to be done to be able to portray it on screen in a realistic and believable way. Do it in a way that will let us relate to the characters, their world, and their struggles. Like you and CapBeerCino keep pointing out, "comics are not the movies" is NOT an acceptable excuse for poor writing and storytelling.

As is the case with most comic book movies today. What the writers dream up is inferior to the original story.

It's sad, isn't it? that looking at some of the rewrites here and on other threads that a 16-year-old can outwrite some of these professionals. And you're absolutely correct. Why bother dreaming up their own ideas when they have 40 years of stories to draw from in the first place? Especially since what they come up with is weak and shallow and lacks imagination?


If you want weak plots, that make no sense but involve lots of action, that is your problem. But don't insult the people that want more, and don't encourage producers to crap out these movies either.

:up: BRAVO!!! I'm glad there's someone like you on our side!

gambitfire
07-30-2006, 01:34 PM
Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

Oh God, What a freaking Troll :o :down

ntcrawler
07-30-2006, 03:16 PM
Oh God, What a freaking Troll :o :down

And this is where the guy shoots himself in the foot. If the audience never read the comics as lots of people like to point out, then they have nothing to be bored about since they never saw any of these stories before!!!

But that is no excuse to not stay true to concepts established in the source material. Alot of people saw LOTR who never read it before, and same with Spiderman, but the people who created those films certainly respected the source material and presented storylines that not only were more faithful to the source material and to those familiar, but stories where were certainly not boring to the newcomers either.

If it worked for LOTR and Spiderman, it can certainly work here. There is no excuse. None. Just like there is no excuse for bad writing.

UraniaChang
07-30-2006, 07:36 PM
Something new? What's new in that movie? We just got a freaking FOX-Men movie with a Van Helsing ending.

Aiden
07-30-2006, 08:30 PM
*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.You suck. **** off

AznBABYBANDIT
07-30-2006, 08:40 PM
well, seriously, X2 was Kinda too original, but it was great, due to how it was filmed...

However, X3 replacing Cyc with Wolves including many pose and speech... That was something nie

However, causes hate for wolvie

LastSunrise1981
07-30-2006, 08:51 PM
Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

Bad examples troll. Superman, Batman Begins, and Spider-Man were and are far more faithful to their source material than X3 is. Nice try though.

Spider-Man, Batman Begins, and Superman had some changes, however none of which deviated from the material or alienated their fanbase to the point of absolute disgust.

triplefive
07-30-2006, 08:54 PM
Not much point arguing with trolls, guys. Rationality isn't their strong suit.

LastSunrise1981
07-30-2006, 08:54 PM
And this is where the guy shoots himself in the foot. If the audience never read the comics as lots of people like to point out, then they have nothing to be bored about since they never saw any of these stories before!!!

But that is no excuse to not stay true to concepts established in the source material. Alot of people saw LOTR who never read it before, and same with Spiderman, but the people who created those films certainly respected the source material and presented storylines that not only were more faithful to the source material and to those familiar, but stories where were certainly not boring to the newcomers either.

If it worked for LOTR and Spiderman, it can certainly work here. There is no excuse. None. Just like there is no excuse for bad writing.

Don't forget Batman Begins, Sin City, and V For Vendetta too. All of those were faithful comic book/graphic novel adaptations, and all did fairly well in the box office and are critically acclaimed.

The troll is just talking out of his ass and is probably a worker for Tom Rothman as well.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-30-2006, 08:56 PM
Supes and Bat are DC, and the director started at comics... However Bryan went off track as he did X2, so when Brett picked it up... He faced the trouble....



Bryan is to blame :D

AznBABYBANDIT
07-30-2006, 08:57 PM
V For Vendetta was seriously a good movie ^_^

Hulkster
07-31-2006, 02:10 AM
There is a Scott Summers Music Video (including clips of disturbing behavior)

http://community.livejournal.com/cyclops_fans/

You can find it with the title:Au Cyclops vid

Nice music vid.:) :up:

AznBABYBANDIT
07-31-2006, 03:16 AM
Nice ^_^

Vilya
07-31-2006, 07:00 AM
On paper.

Great drawing!!! Do you do this on the computer or on paper?

AznBABYBANDIT
07-31-2006, 07:18 AM
what on paper?

Vilya
07-31-2006, 07:22 AM
A few pages back, posted a drawing.

AznBABYBANDIT
07-31-2006, 07:24 AM
oh thx gonna have a look

Vilya
07-31-2006, 07:42 AM
Thanks! the scene with Cykes and jean holding hands is so cool!
Will u be ripping X2?


I was ripping a deleted scene from X1 for DoD and thought I'd just rip and upload the Cyke-related scenes as well.

Teaching mechanics:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27386466/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_2.avi.html

Extended bedroom conversation:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27385831/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_4.avi.html

Showing Logan his uniform:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27384974/X-Men_-_Deleted_Scene_6.avi.html


Enjoy!

AznBABYBANDIT
07-31-2006, 07:52 AM
... CYC+Jean is nice... Yet CYC died... Sigh

ntcrawler
07-31-2006, 11:09 AM
Agreed.

Demolecularizing him is NOT the answer. Let him be an emotional wreck and therefore unfit to lead for a while. It's happened in the comics and it can happen here too.


Absolutely, as it's obivous he is an emotional wreck! Anyone would be after losing someone so close and precious. I know the feeling. He could try coping but it would be made apparent that he's not going to recover for a long time, not unless some miracle happens.

So just show him ride off for a sabbatical, to go spend time alone at his family cabin in Alaska. That's a convenient way to remove him from the plot for the rest of the movie, but doesn't involve killing him.


Killing him is not only stupid, but it's unneccessary, as Scott has never died in the comics.

It's not so much that he has a character shield like the main cast from Star Trek, but he really has a strong will to survive and live. The fact that he's managed to get this far from his horrific childhood and days as an orphan is proof. To just wipe him out for no good reason adds insult to the character. And yes, not only did he not die in the comics, but Jean certainly did not try to kill him either. Even when fully engulfed by the Dark Phoenix, she did not kill any of her teammates. Alkali Lake was just a cheap and sloppy way to show the audienc: "oooh, look how evil she is".

ntcrawler
07-31-2006, 11:17 AM
Don't forget Batman Begins, Sin City, and V For Vendetta too. All of those were faithful comic book/graphic novel adaptations, and all did fairly well in the box office and are critically acclaimed.


You're correct, of course. I haven't seen Batman Begins and did not read the Sin City comics so I wouldn't be able to comment on how faithfully they were adapted.

I like to use LOTR of an example because the entire production staff understood the magnitude of their project as well as the responsibility they were carrying on their shoulders. They knew that if they did it wrong, not only would the film be a potential bomb but that they would have to deal with an angry lynch mob carrying torches and pitchforks. The script was constantly being rewritten, several thousand times with reference books always within arm's reach during the entire production, and even the director of the Weta Workship who produced all the costumes, sets and props told his staff to treat this like the most important project they would ever work on.

It is a shame that this franchise did not get a similar treatment, although X1 and X2 tended to hit more than they miss. X3 might be successful in the box office as far as profit, but to alot of people, it's definitely a miss.



The troll is just talking out of his ass and is probably a worker for Tom Rothman as well.

Like "The Batman" said in an earlier post, don't let it discourage us!

LastSunrise1981
07-31-2006, 02:45 PM
You're correct, of course. I haven't seen Batman Begins and did not read the Sin City comics so I wouldn't be able to comment on how faithfully they were adapted.

I like to use LOTR of an example because the entire production staff understood the magnitude of their project as well as the responsibility they were carrying on their shoulders. They knew that if they did it wrong, not only would the film be a potential bomb but that they would have to deal with an angry lynch mob carrying torches and pitchforks. The script was constantly being rewritten, several thousand times with reference books always within arm's reach during the entire production, and even the director of the Weta Workship who produced all the costumes, sets and props told his staff to treat this like the most important project they would ever work on.

It is a shame that this franchise did not get a similar treatment, although X1 and X2 tended to hit more than they miss. X3 might be successful in the box office as far as profit, but to alot of people, it's definitely a miss.




Like "The Batman" said in an earlier post, don't let it discourage us!

You haven't seen Batman Begins?!!!! WHY?!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :mad:

ntcrawler
07-31-2006, 03:25 PM
You haven't seen Batman Begins?!!!! WHY?!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :mad:

Um... Um... Been too busy? hehe

LastSunrise1981
07-31-2006, 04:28 PM
Um... Um... Been too busy? hehe

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/terminator_3/20.jpeg

Unacceptable answer.

:p

jcykeson
08-01-2006, 07:19 AM
the saddest thing is, the Cyclops characterization, the Phoenix saga.. it all totally deviates from the real X-men universe.. and we've come to love with that X~verse compared to the movies that just simply didn't justify it.

hue
08-01-2006, 03:00 PM
Just saw Superman. Boy did they do Marsden justice. It was as though Singer was going out of his way to make up for the x-men debacle. Makes me wonder if Singer had to do what he did in the other films. He truly redemed Marsden and it appears Marsden actually got the girl this time, though that is kind of vague.

Of course Cyclops has yet to be redeemed.

Anyway, I was thinking it would have been great if Singer had directed some kind of scene that poked fun at X-men. For example when they were all trapped underwater. Perhaps they could have had Marsden put his hand to his ear pretending the visors were there attempting to blow the door off. In the dvd extras, perhaps he could be seen to say " Oh, wrong movie". That would have been funny.

I didn't think Superman was that great, but what they did for Marsden was. So the movie was good.

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 03:13 PM
I was watching the extra disk for X2, and one of the cast members, kelly Hu, said that James Marsden is a "Nut." He sounds like a fun person.

larryfilmmaker
08-01-2006, 03:40 PM
Don't forget Batman Begins, Sin City, and V For Vendetta too. All of those were faithful comic book/graphic novel adaptations, and all did fairly well in the box office and are critically acclaimed.

The troll is just talking out of his ass and is probably a worker for Tom Rothman as well.

lets be fair... V and Sin were really faithful and Batman was kinda sorta faithful... it was just dark and fans wanted that. X-Men wasn't faithful at all, and though there were small similarities between God Loves, Man Kills and X2... most of the substance was stripped away to make time for Wolverine's "mysterious past" and his action scenes. Cyclops actually had a pretty influential role in the original GLMK, with a great speech at the end that reaffirms Xavier's faith in his dream. Of course, they substitued that for Wolverine's "she's gone, she's gone, she's gone, she's gone, she's gone" lol

Bastila
08-01-2006, 03:46 PM
Whats the original GLMK?

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 03:49 PM
I kind of thought that X3 was faithful. I mean, all the aspects are there, they're just different to meet the tone of the franchise.

larryfilmmaker
08-01-2006, 04:13 PM
I kind of thought that X3 was faithful. I mean, all the aspects are there, they're just different to meet the tone of the franchise.

Zombie Jean? Storm and Wolvie taking over the school? Xavier's death and brain transfer... Cyke's zero involvement in the Phoenix storyline...

I can't think of a single part of X3 that was faithful... what do you mean?

Bastila
08-01-2006, 04:17 PM
Zombie Jean? Storm and Wolvie taking over the school? Xavier's death and brain transfer... Cyke's zero involvement in the Phoenix storyline...

I can't think of a single part of X3 that was faithful... what do you mean?

well you summed it up on how X3 was nothing like how it should have been. Good job lol.

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 04:40 PM
Zombie Jean? Storm and Wolvie taking over the school? Xavier's death and brain transfer... Cyke's zero involvement in the Phoenix storyline...

I can't think of a single part of X3 that was faithful... what do you mean?

Okay, well. It's just the formula is there, with deferent details.

We have Jean's sacrifice with the X-jet at the end of X2. And I also liked to think of that as the movie version of the "Good Phoenix." The comic story has her sacrificing herself to save the X-men in the space shuttle. After that she lands in the water and than rises. We do have a version of that in the film.

We have the love part, which I thought played a big part in the film. It's present through both Scott and Logan. Sure Scott dies early, but he's still a part of phoenix - he was the first person she contacted using her telepathy and he keeps setting the phoenix off, or suppresses it. And Logan is in love with Jean, divided between whether or not he should kill her. The love part of the Phoenix Saga is present, just different to meet the tone of the film.

I don't think it's silly to have Wolverine suddenly in love Jean, because I don't think it's too sudden. In all the other movies we see a building of their relationship, and it's not like in the beginning of X3 he says he loves her. It develops throughout the film. It was Storm who first said that he loved her.

Sure Jean may not have been covered in flames or have a phoenix surrounding her, but there is no explanation why she would in the films - there really is no solid explanation why Jean was covered in flames at the end of X2. She had to be zombie like too show a contrast between what she was at the end of X2 and what she is in X3.

And the final sacrifice from Jean. The comics have Jean breaking through long enough to use the guns on the moon to kill herself. Movie version has Jean breaking through long enough to let Wolverine kill her. Sure in the comics it was Scott's love that enabled Jean to overcome the phoenix, but in the movie Logan says he would die for her, which I think made her realize that she is still cared about, even though she had done those horrible things.

Could it have been done differently? Yes, but I loved what we got.

Mike059jig
08-01-2006, 06:40 PM
I kind of thought that X3 was faithful. I mean, all the aspects are there, they're just different to meet the tone of the franchise. Yeah I love how the Dark pehonix Saga is tragic love between logan and Jean.....and logan becomes the leader of the X-men...Kid Omega has Quills coming out of him...When someone wants to take the cure to help themselves Storm will say no, cause mutants are not a disease...Half the eqation of the Dark Pheonix Saga is gone the entire movie..It was definetly faithful:up:

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah I love how the Dark pehonix Saga is tragic love between logan and Jean.....and logan becomes the leader of the X-men...Kid Omega has Quills coming out of him...When someone wants to take the cure to help themselves Storm will say no, cause mutants are not a disease...Half the eqation of the Dark Pheonix Saga is gone the entire movie..It was definetly faithful:up:

There were deffinatly things changed, but that's just the trend of the trilogy. And I meant that the phoenix saga was reinterpreted, and had the same aspects, but changed to meet the tone of the franchise.

You seem awfully bitter that I like the movie. I post something that puts the movie into a positive light, and than people react with sarcastic and cynical comments. What would you say if I said It's my favorite movie... I better keep my mouth shut.

Mike059jig
08-01-2006, 07:02 PM
Your are entitled to your opinion and love this movie all you want...my favorite Movie of All time LOTR...alot of people don't like it....I wasn't bitter..Don't take it wrong...your post just cuaght my attention...I love the x-men and change is good to some extent and But I can see when they are used inappropriately..But I've gotten over of this movie...I bought alot of comics after this movie came out to feel better...:)

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Oh, I thought your post was meant as a bitter attack at my oppinion. I guess it wasn't than.

ntcrawler
08-01-2006, 08:58 PM
well you summed it up on how X3 was nothing like how it should have been. Good job lol.

Well that is a nice way to sum it up, isn't it? :) It's not so much the "tone of the franchise", but the "tone of the studio execs controlling the franchise"

I'll grant this, though. Something terrible and unexpected happened to Cyclops early on in the film, but so long as he was around on screen, he was certainly vindicated for all the crap he had to put up with and was able to enjoy it. Short as it was, he gave a great performance.

ntcrawler
08-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Yeah I love how the Dark pehonix Saga is tragic love between logan and Jean.....and logan becomes the leader of the X-men...


I think the point here is that when you reinterpret something, you can only go so far before the story loses its essence. Some people are just better than others when it comes to understanding where that proverbial "line" is that shouldn't be crossed.

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 09:25 PM
In my oppinion, switching two characters around did not cross the line, and you had to expect it. I knew cyclops would never get a large role, and if they kept him in the phoenix story line he would have a larger role than Wolverine. And we all know how fox would react.

AznBABYBANDIT
08-01-2006, 10:01 PM
FOX crossed the invisible line that made fox tyrants... - Charles Xavier...

My Red Sight
08-01-2006, 11:03 PM
I actually thought Scott's role in the film was cooler than the others. He finally got to ride the bike, had a cooler wardrobe (not a tucked in shirt and ironed pants, which made him look really uncool in X2), he had more emotion and came off better in an argument with Wolverine. It was short, but it was great.