Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[the Firestarter]

there is still hope for cyclops. and i definitely think we'll see nathiel essex in this one... setting up sinister for possible sequels in the future.

[PWN3R]

Nathanial Essex is gonna be one of Worthington Lab's doctors... I'm tellin ya... heh...


:eek: :eek: :up:


lol....it could happen!

[CapBeerCino]

Nathanial Essex is gonna be one of Worthington Lab's doctors... I'm tellin ya... heh...

That could bring more Summers to the picture :up:

[the Firestarter]

HughJackFan420, i don't think it will pan out the way you think... with sinister ending the film with cyclops in his captivity. sorry if you think i was repeating your idea, but that's not the way i see it. i think it's possible that cyclops will return within the film (after being assumed dead)... but do not think his return will be linked to sinister with a "hmm, what do we have here?". nathaniel essex may very well appear, but imho it will not be in the same scenes as cyclops.

[vanillacyke]

The empire pic. looks like Cyke from X2. I'm not holding my breath

[Seen]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5057/cykesx348si.jpg

Hmm. His suit looks different. More like Angel's, actually. Still, he looks damn fine. And I'm hetero!

[tonytr1687]

Hmm. His suit looks different. More like Angel's, actually. Still, he looks damn fine. And I'm hetero!

Anyone notice the collar is ripped up? I think its from X3 b/c his hair was never like that in the first two films. But who knows...I think the ripped collar is interesting though.

[cookiva]

Anyone notice the collar is ripped up? I think its from X3 b/c his hair was never like that in the first two films. But who knows...I think the ripped collar is interesting though.

His collar IS ripped!!!!:eek:

[Seen]

Anyone notice the collar is ripped up? I think its from X3 b/c his hair was never like that in the first two films. But who knows...I think the ripped collar is interesting though.

Agreed. His buckle is more blue and his hair seems...eh, longer. Definitely seems like an X3 pic.

[cookiva]

Agreed. His buckle is more blue and his hair seems...eh, longer. Definitely seems like an X3 pic.

Also, his hair was always parted on the other side of his head in the first 2 films, curved, and much shorter...

http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2003/fox/x2/images/xmen-2-cyclops.jpg

[the_scream]

I have less hope than ever that he will survive. When asked about the scene with Cyclops in X1 where he tells Xavier "I'll look after them" Simon was like "It's a nice scene but Cyclops probably never considered what it would be like to lose Jean".

First, he doesn't get it that thematically, it doesn't work to have the character's arc end in death.

Second, it is again implying he is at least not going to lead in X3.

Oh, and that photo looks like it's from X2.

[TNC9852002]

How does any of that give you less hope for the character?...Instead of trying to find reasons to support his death, why not pay attention to all of the things that support his survival?

-TNC

[tonytr1687]

I have less hope than ever that he will survive. When asked about the scene with Cyclops in X1 where he tells Xavier "I'll look after them" Simon was like "It's a nice scene but Cyclops probably never considered what it would be like to lose Jean".

First, he doesn't get it that thematically, it doesn't work to have the character's arc end in death.

Second, it is again implying he is at least not going to lead in X3.

Oh, and that photo looks like it's from X2.

Yeah that was my question and his answer kinda worried me too. Maybe he didn't know what I was getting at and I should have fleshed out the question more. I was pretty much trying to ask him "Do you follow up on this scene in terms of Cyclops' character?" since its such obvious foreshadowing. I find it very interesting that that scene foreshadows Xavier possibly dying, so it begs the question: could Singer have planned on killing off the professor too? Kinda weird if Singer and the writers think such alike. Or perhaps the writers DID examine this scene and therefore thats one of the reasons why they might be killing off Xavier? And if so wouldn't it be proper that they follow up on the other bit of foreshadowing, that Cyclops takes over the school?

[cookiva]

How does any of that give you less hope for the character?...Instead of trying to find reasons to support his death, why not pay attention to all of the things that support his survival?

-TNC

Ask anyone here. As long as its for a reason, Im all for his death, and Ive never said otherwise. He could live, he could die, its not the biggest thing ever to me. I want whats best for the film. If he has 2 scenes that are stupid, I would be pissed off. If he has 2 scenes, and one is a death that makes tears arise, i would love it.

[The Guard]

It never has in the movies. The only small inklings of their love are in X2, and well the ending of X1 when she tries to use Cerebero and Scott goes running to stop her. That's one thing I'll admit that has not been brought into Scott's character enough so far into these movies.

An inkling?

"I thought I'd lost you."

Hugs, embracing. "I love you so much."

Their love is there. Lust...not so much.

[StevieNicks1988]

How does any of that give you less hope for the character?...Instead of trying to find reasons to support his death, why not pay attention to all of the things that support his survival?

-TNC

If only more people wold listen to you.... but since this is Cyke fans we're talking about, I highly doubt it. lol :up:

[WorthyStevens]

I have less hope than ever that he will survive. When asked about the scene with Cyclops in X1 where he tells Xavier "I'll look after them" Simon was like "It's a nice scene but Cyclops probably never considered what it would be like to lose Jean".

First, he doesn't get it that thematically, it doesn't work to have the character's arc end in death.

Second, it is again implying he is at least not going to lead in X3.

Oh, and that photo looks like it's from X2.

Ugh.

[Jan Irisi]

Ugh.


Easy now....we'll get through this.

[WorthyStevens]

Easy now....we'll get through this.

I hope. :O

[Essex]

Anyone notice the collar is ripped up? I think its from X3 b/c his hair was never like that in the first two films. But who knows...I think the ripped collar is interesting though.

His collar isn't ripped....it is slightly folded, as any collar tends to be.

And I think it's ridiculous to compare his hair from the content in X2 to this image. No matter what film it's from, this is a publicity shot, so he would obviously have a stylist for it who might part his hair differently...

By the same logic I could say his hair doesn't look like that in what we've seen from X3.

Maybe it is from X3. But I'm not putting money on it.

[peteapan]

where can a pic of angel in an x costume be found. I have heard many times of the similarities between cyclops and angels x suits so id like to have a look

[pyromaniac]

where can a pic of angel in an x costume be found. I have heard many times of the similarities between cyclops and angels x suits so id like to have a look

It's been confirmed by Kinberg that Angel is not wearing Cyclops' costume - just for clarification.

[pyromaniac]

His collar isn't ripped....it is slightly folded, as any collar tends to be.

And I think it's ridiculous to compare his hair from the content in X2 to this image. No matter what film it's from, this is a publicity shot, so he would obviously have a stylist for it who might part his hair differently...

By the same logic I could say his hair doesn't look like that in what we've seen from X3.

Maybe it is from X3. But I'm not putting money on it.

Why would they print a photo that's from an older film, instead for this one; it would be a little misleading, don't you think...?

[spark627]

whether or not this is a new pic, they included him, that is a good sign.

everytime anyone involved in the film has been asked about major deaths in the movie, they always say death and RESURRECTION are big in the comics. keep that in mind. i can imagine jean and scott dying at some point, and the last scene would be them off on their own somewhere, wanting time away from the school. i dont think scotts death (if he dies at all) will be perm.

[Essex]

Why would they print a photo that's from an older film, instead for this one; it would be a little misleading, don't you think...?


To us, maybe. But do you really think a casual reader of the magazine is going to have any idea that Cyclops is rumoured to die? What's so misleading about a general image of Cyclops? If they printed an image of Wolverine from X2, nobody would care/notice. I doubt the people who did that magazine layout would give a second thought to including an archive image of Cyclops.

The question you SHOULD be asking is 'Why would Fox work so hard to hide Cyclops' fate and never show him in costume, then just randomly supply the magazine with a brand new shot of Cyclops in black leather and visor?'

[PWN3R]

The question you SHOULD be asking is 'Why would Fox work so hard to hide Cyclops' fate and never show him in costume, then just randomly supply the magazine with a brand new shot of Cyclops in black leather and visor?'

That is exactly what I thought. Something isn't right...:confused:

[Storm22]

What if it's not from X2 though and Empire, realising they don't have a pic of Cyclops in uniform like the others, just decided to get one of the X2 shots I'm sure Fox provided them in 2003 and stick that shot in.

[spark627]

i dont understand why everyone is so worked up over this. who cares where it is from? they included scott, we should be happy about this. lately, with all the recent interviews, there should more hope among fans that he will live.

and if it is from x2- isnt it possible that james sched (with superman and whatnot) didn't allow him enough time to do a photoshoot?

[CapBeerCino]

i dont understand why everyone is so worked up over this. who cares where it is from? they included scott, we should be happy about this. lately, with all the recent interviews, there should more hope among fans that he will live.

and if it is from x2- isnt it possible that james sched (with superman and whatnot) didn't allow him enough time to do a photoshoot?

Yeah, but that will also mean he's not wearing a uniform in X-3 which lead you to the question why?

[spark627]

Yeah, but that will also mean he's not wearing a uniform in X-3 which lead you to the question why?

how do you get that?


if they used an old photo for the reason i gave, it has no reflection on what will happen in the movie.

[StevieNicks1988]

What I REALLY find funny is that Cyclops fans are SO pissed off at the fact that he might die in this movie, and because of that, most of them are so ignorant because of their anger that they shrug off all and any evidence suggesting that Cyclops DOES indeed survive, just because they are pissed at the fact he might die.

[CapBeerCino]

If only more people wold listen to you.... but since this is Cyke fans we're talking about, I highly doubt it. lol :up:

What's that suppose to mean? :mad:

[CapBeerCino]

What I REALLY find funny is that Cyclops fans are SO pissed off at the fact that he might die in this movie, and because of that, most of them are so ignorant because of their anger that they shrug off all and any evidence suggesting that Cyclops DOES indeed survive, just because they are pissed at the fact he might die.

Him dying or not is not the issue. Him being under used is.
And if you're so fatigue with Cyke's fans what are you doing here? :o

[StevieNicks1988]

I like Cyke but I'm not going to piss myself and get all defensive just because he 'might' die. I just find it funny that people are acting like someone called their mother fat or shot their dog. It's only a movie, and Cyclops has already shined. He's already been shown as the X-Men's leader in X1, so the audience knows he is. Whether he dies or not in X3 is yet to be seen, but the thing a lot of people are missing is, as of right now, RIGHT NOW, the evidence we all have points towards him living.

[The Batman]

Him dying or not is not the issue. Him being under used is.
And if you're so fatigue with Cyke's fans what are you doing here? :o


because hes got to come in here with his pretentious snob act, so convinced that, because he dosent think cyclops will die, or he does and he dosent care that he might, he's high and mighty, and we're just whiners. Yawn.

[Octoberist]

While I understand where you're coming from Stevie, but I agree with CapBeer.

What are you expecting from a Cyclops thread?

It's not like I'm over at the Storm thread bashing Halle Berry.

[The Batman]

Exactly. If people believe Cyclops will die, let them believe that. And you wont help your case by bashing cyke fans everytime you post here.

[Octoberist]

I don't want to be a prick to Stevie, unless he/she wants the excitement of being in this thread.

I made this thread so people can be completely honest on their feelings on Cyclops. As long as they don't whine in the other threads, keep it civil, then it's okay to "whine" here.

If someone is trying to stop THAT notion, then I don't know what they're expecting unless they want the 'challege.

[peteapan]

Hey just read the Xmen article in the new Empire and although its cool a pic of cyke was included, he was barely mentioned. The article pretty much went over old ground with the Cyke issue avoided on the whole

[WorthyStevens]

I like Cyke but I'm not going to piss myself and get all defensive just because he 'might' die. I just find it funny that people are acting like someone called their mother fat or shot their dog. It's only a movie, and Cyclops has already shined.

I'm going to have to disagree with that last statement. As a big Cyclops fan, I felt he was pretty underused in the previous movies. But that's got to do more with the fact that I think Wolverine unfairly outshined him in the first one.

He's already been shown as the X-Men's leader in X1, so the audience knows he is. Whether he dies or not in X3 is yet to be seen, but the thing a lot of people are missing is, as of right now, RIGHT NOW, the evidence we all have points towards him living.

That I do agree on. :up: I'm getting sick of some posters on here overlooking those points. My fears of Cyclops dying have decreased significantly, and the new picture drops it close to zero.

[taintedFB]

Somewhere online they have all these unreleased promo pics of the characters from the last movie. I can tell you that this is definitely not from X2 and the suit and visor as well as his hair are different.

A lot of people are always looking for negative things that they start to create these paranoid delusions!

Again, the more I read from the writers the more I feel that Cyclops will survive in the end. I also think that he rejoins the team, since from what we know there isn't really an occasion to wear the suit prior to Phoenix's rising. Especially considering his distraught state.

[CapBeerCino]

For me it's not about him surviving in the end. I wan't to see him in action and written like he should, and that I'm not sure I'll get.

[JustABill]

:rolleyes:

That's all I'm going to say about this....you finally get some SOLID proof of Cyclops living and you all try to disect it and make it into a thing about him dying.

''The color is the same. The collar is not right..blah blah."

I'm not trying to be mean guys, but why when you get at least the tiniest bit of hope, you continue to be negative? It baffles me.

[Maze]

again maybe , juste maybe they don't want to be disapointed at the end?

don't you think that if the fate of cyke is hmm interesting some could be even more joyful?

Not everybody feel the same about things bill ;)

[JustABill]

Yes, but he's in frickin costume right before your eyes, with things that have changed, yet...you still think he's going to die. Sure, the main aspects of the costume looks the same, but doesn't Wolverine's? Storm's? Rogue's?

You guys just spit on hope...and are digging him in the grave, even if things say otherwise, cause of one CHANGED script.

[The Batman]

When i see Cyclops in action in more scenes than only the mansion and alkali lake, with his costume on, then and only then will i believe he's gonna live. and even then, he'll probably be forgotten just so logan and jean can have their love story again...

[Electrix]

I suggest people wait a couple of weeks and watch the next trailer. If Cyclops isnt anywhere apart from the mansion or Alkali Lake he is screwed. If we see him in other places then there is still hope.

[Octoberist]

And you got the extremists, Bill. Yeah, I laugh at the people who are like "That pic of Cyclops was from the last movie."

It's kinda like how some people are still convinced that Venom won't be included (small or big) in Spider-Man3 even after the GOD DARN poster had Spidey wearing a GOD DARN black costume!

[The Batman]

And you got the extremists, Bill. Yeah, I laugh at the people who are like "That pic of Cyclops was from the last movie."

It's kinda like how some people are still convinced that Venom won't be included (small or big) in Spider-Man3 even after the GOD DARN poster had Spidey wearing a GOD DARN black costume!

Theres no doubt thats his X3 suit. But, what I'm saying is, when X2 was being hyped, a pic with the X-Men in the oval office was leaked, and Jean was in the picture. When we see X2, well...you know...

[Maze]

again it is maybe a promotionnal photo..

bill , again you have to understand that some people feel that if they have too much hope they fear it will be crush..

it's a natural reaction , and i will add a sane one..

let me explain: i 'm going to give you an extreme example , let's be clear on that)

your a screenwriter right?well imagine that you were going to have a first deal with a studio for sure..it doesn't work..he promise it to you a second time ..it doesn't work again and so on..are you going to believe the guy again and again without thinking that it could not work..and in that case you can act over this situation..fans of cyke cannot do anything but worry ...
Hoping for the best.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I made this thread so people can be completely honest on their feelings on Cyclops.



And....he was being "completely honest" on his feelings regarding Cyclops.

Where is the problem Octoberist? :confused:

[JustABill]

When does that trailer come out anyways?

[JustABill]

again it is maybe a promotionnal shoot..

bill , again you have to understand that some people feel that if they have too much hope they fear it will be crush..

it's a natural reaction , and i will add a sane one..

let me explain:(i 'm going to give you an extreme example , let's be clear on that)

your a screenwriter right?well imagine that you were going to have a first deal with a studio for sure..it doesn't work..he promise it to you a second time ..it doesn't work again and so on..are you going to believe the guy again and again without thinking that it could not work..and in that case you can act over this situation..fans of cyke cannot do anything but worry ...
Hoping for the best.

Yeah, I've always seen you guys point of view and why you do it, but I just wish you guys would at least show some specs of hope. :(. This thread is depressing. :(

[WorthyStevens]

Theres no doubt thats his X3 suit. But, what I'm saying is, when X2 was being hyped, a pic with the X-Men in the oval office was leaked, and Jean was in the picture. When we see X2, well...you know...

I think the difference between these 2 pictures, is that the X2 picture was covering up a great surprise (with the Phoenix cliffhanger), but this Cyclops photo, if it's just a coverup, can only lead to heartbreak...

One more post... heh heh :)

[Electrix]

When does that trailer come out anyways?

It should be out by this time next month.

[tonytr1687]

And you got the extremists, Bill. Yeah, I laugh at the people who are like "That pic of Cyclops was from the last movie."

It's kinda like how some people are still convinced that Venom won't be included (small or big) in Spider-Man3 even after the GOD DARN poster had Spidey wearing a GOD DARN black costume!

Actually that pic didnt confirm Venom. It just confirmed Eddie Brock. Venom may still be saved for SM4...or at least I hope. I mean Spidey's gotta wear that suit for a while right?

And to whoever said Cyke's collar in that pic is merely folded over. Sorry look again. There is a distinct "jagged-ness" right below the top neck line that suggests that area has been rippes by something. It almost looks like that top neck line is actually a black shirt he's wearing underneath the leather outfit.

[JustABill]

I think the difference between these 2 pictures, is that the X2 picture was covering up a great surprise (with the Phoenix lead-in to X3 scene near the end), but this Cyclops photo, if it's a coverup, can only lead to heartbreak...

One more post... heh heh :)

Exactly!

[Maze]

Yeah, I've always seen you guys point of view and why you do it, but I just wish you guys would at least show some specs of hope. :(. This thread is depressing. :(

Bill ,i understand you..i feel you even..

What i find sad personnaly is that in releasing some tension , some fans of cyclops depress others..what can they do about it? my advice , don't read this thread untill the movie hit theater..(now that i think about it , maybe it will be worse!:eek: :o lol ;) )

[bosef982]

You guys do know that that picture of Cyclops is from the new Empire magazine, right?

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5057/cykesx348si.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/204/picture755se.jpg

Notice the way these pictures are both captioned.


I'm just reposting this since you guys decided to continue your argument over it. It looks like Cyke's is getting some action.

[The Batman]

Yeah, I've always seen you guys point of view and why you do it, but I just wish you guys would at least show some specs of hope. :(. This thread is depressing. :(

I dunno what to tell you. Part of it is, the cast and crew talk about guys like Wolvie, Storm, Angel, etc, They always say "He/Shes gonna kick ass in this movie" or "Wait till you see what he/she does" or tells you some juicy plot details.

What do Cyclops fans get? None of the cast or crew talk about the guy, and all we have to fall back on is an old draft where...he dies. That, coupled with the fact that the cast crew are willing to much more details about other characters than they are Cyclops, and you have...this.

I think it'll get better in April. Maybe.

[WorthyStevens]

I dunno what to tell you. Part of it is, the cast and crew talk about guys like Wolvie, Storm, Angel, etc, They always say "He/Shes gonna kick ass in this movie" or "Wait till you see what he/she does" or tells you some juicy plot details.

What do Cyclops fans get? None of the cast or crew talk about the guy, and all we have to fall back on is an old draft where...he dies. That, coupled with the fact that the cast crew are willing to much more details about other characters than they are Cyclops, and you have...this.

I think it'll get better in April. Maybe.

Maybe because Scott might actually have the best part in the movie, and Fox is trying to keep that a surprise. ;)

Remember, the ending has a tight lid kept around it.

1000th post, WOOT!

[The Batman]

Bill ,i understand you..i feel you even..

What i find sad personnaly is that in releasing some tension , some fans of cyclops depress others..what can they do about it? my advice , don't read this thread untill the movie hit theater..(now that i think about it , maybe it will be worse!:eek: :o lol ;) )


Part of it is, we're venting. on others, unfortunately. Think about it. Wolverine fans get to say Wolvie kicks alot of ass. Storm fans get to say that Storm finally becomes the leader she is in the comics. Kitty and Colossus fans get to say their character's get more screentime in X3, hell, one of them is involved in a love triangle. Jean fans get to say that Jean is pretty much the driving force in the film. Angel fans get to say their character is part of a major plotline in the movie. Beast fans get to say that, not only is fraiser playing him, but his character will be exactly like the comics version.

What does Cyclops have.

Nothing. We're not told he's gonna kick ass. We're not told he'll be a major part of the movie. Nothin'. Nothin' at all...

[bosef982]

Maybe because Scott might actually have the best part in the movie, and Fox is trying to keep that a surprise. ;)

Remember, the ending has a tight lid kept around it.

1000th post, WOOT!


Except that we know tht Mystique isn't present, it takes place at Alcatraz, Logan is tortured by Mangeto, Jean's going crazy, Beast fights Callisto, Beast confronts Magneto, Sentinels, and Juggs chases Kitty.

[The Batman]

Maybe because Scott might actually have the best part in the movie, and Fox is trying to keep that a surprise. ;)

Remember, the ending has a tight lid kept around it.

1000th post, WOOT!

Maybe he is. but in keeping the secret, none of his fans can just sit back and enjoy the buildup to the movie. The excitment waiting for it to come out.

[bosef982]

You guys do know that that picture of Cyclops is from the new Empire magazine, right?

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5057/cykesx348si.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/204/picture755se.jpg

Notice the way these pictures are both captioned.




I'm just reposting this since you guys decided to continue your argument over it. It looks like Cyke's is getting some action.

[WorthyStevens]

Maybe he is. but in keeping the secret, none of his fans can just sit back and enjoy the buildup to the movie. The excitment waiting for it to come out.

But think about it. Wouldn't you rather have the surprise of Cyclops having a majorly kickass part, even more than most of the characters here?

[peteapan]

I dunno what to tell you. Part of it is, the cast and crew talk about guys like Wolvie, Storm, Angel, etc, They always say "He/Shes gonna kick ass in this movie" or "Wait till you see what he/she does" or tells you some juicy plot details.

What do Cyclops fans get? None of the cast or crew talk about the guy, and all we have to fall back on is an old draft where...he dies. That, coupled with the fact that the cast crew are willing to much more details about other characters than they are Cyclops, and you have...this.

I think it'll get better in April. Maybe.

I completely agree. The enthusiasm shown for every other character apart from cyke is such an obvious sign he doesnt get much of a role. I mean them saying yeh its great to have him back and he is done shooting and pretty much nothing else isnt going to build any cyke fans confidence. I cant wait till the next trailer and I am sure that it will either confirm or disprove my fears. I pray that it at least shows him in one other setting, chances are it will just show Wolverine growling some more and Halle being Halle.

[peteapan]

I'm just reposting this since you guys decided to continue your argument over it. It looks like Cyke's is getting some action.

Huh? How?

[WorthyStevens]

I completely agree. The enthusiasm shown for every other character apart from cyke is such an obvious sign he doesnt get much of a role. I mean them saying yeh its great to have him back and he is done shooting and pretty much nothing else isnt going to build any cyke fans confidence. I cant wait till the next trailer and I am sure that it will either confirm or disprove my fears. I pray that it at least shows him in one other setting, chances are it will just show Wolverine growling some more and Halle being Halle.

It doesn't have to be a sign of having a small role.

Read my above post :o:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7913811&postcount=3566

[The Batman]

But think about it. Wouldn't you rather have the surprise of Cyclops having a majorly kickass part, even more than most of the characters here?


I'd rather have the security of knowing he'd have a good role. You can say he'll have a kickass part, but we dont know. Not to mention he was screwed for two films straight. Like i asked before, why should they care about him now?

[Maze]

Part of it is, we're venting. on others, unfortunately. Think about it. Wolverine fans get to say Wolvie kicks alot of ass. Storm fans get to say that Storm finally becomes the leader she is in the comics. Kitty and Colossus fans get to say their character's get more screentime in X3, hell, one of them is involved in a love triangle. Jean fans get to say that Jean is pretty much the driving force in the film. Angel fans get to say their character is part of a major plotline in the movie. Beast fans get to say that, not only is fraiser playing him, but his character will be exactly like the comics version.

What does Cyclops have.

Nothing. We're not told he's gonna kick ass. We're not told he'll be a major part of the movie. Nothin'. Nothin' at all...
i agree one hundreth prct Batman ,believe me i have always understood your point of view(maybe it didn't appear as clear in my last post for you?)

[WorthyStevens]

I'd rather have the security of knowing he'd have a good role. You can say he'll have a kickass part, but we dont know. Not to mention he was screwed for two films straight. Like i asked before, why should they care about him now?

I can see where you're coming from (and I agree with you about him being screwed), but remember. Singer left and took a good number of people with him. We have a new crew here, also with one of the writers being a big Cyclops fan. Which is a good sign.

[peteapan]

To be honest I dont see how it is anything other than a sign he has a small part. Only the next trailer will really be able to show he is streched beyond two scenes

[The Batman]

i agree one hundreth prct Batman ,believe me i have always understood your point of view(maybe it didn't appear as clear in my last post for you?)


Oh, I know...i was just trying to explain to everyone who thinks we're "Whining" why we're so pissed

[The Batman]

I can see where you're coming from (and I agree with you about him being screwed), but remember. Singer left and took a good number of people with him. We have a new crew here, also with one of the writers being a big Cyclops fan. Which is a good sign.

I wish i could say i'm excited, but we need more proof to be sure. as i mentioned before, things might get better in april

[peteapan]

The only people that can call it whining are those safe in the knowledge their favourite characters are safe with some grand scenes. Its hard to see how the movies have gone down such a path where big fans of the original Xman and leader of the Xmen are praying he gets more than two scenes

[Maze]

Oh, I know...i was just trying to explain to everyone who thinks we're "Whining" why we're so pissed
ok :o i wanted to be sure , you know ...internet :o :D sorry ;)

[Kurosawa]

The only people that can call it whining are those safe in the knowledge their favourite characters are safe with some grand scenes. Its hard to see how the movies have gone down such a path where big fans of the original Xman and leader of the Xmen are praying he gets more than two scenes

I know. It's beyond pathetic.

I don't even really consider these movies X-Men movies. They're Wolverine movies, with the X-Men as supporting characters.

[WorthyStevens]

The only people that can call it whining are those safe in the knowledge their favourite characters are safe with some grand scenes. Its hard to see how the movies have gone down such a path where big fans of the original Xman and leader of the Xmen are praying he gets more than two scenes

I know where you guys are coming. Believe me, I know. Cyclops is my 2nd favorite character, and I HATE how he's been treated in this series so far. Not so much the first (which still was unfair to him), but ESPECIALLY in X2.

But you have to see it from a different perspective. It gets tiring, because we've been getting more positive news about Scott, and it seems that you guys are looking more at the downside, rather than the up.

Remember that we have a new crew handling the movies now. While I'm not certain of how they'll treat Scott, I have hope that things will be different this time around. Scott deserves it. :)

[cookiva]

The only people that can call it whining are those safe in the knowledge their favourite characters are safe with some grand scenes. Its hard to see how the movies have gone down such a path where big fans of the original Xman and leader of the Xmen are praying he gets more than two scenes

Did you hear me whining when Iceman had nothing for X2? What about when Beast got his due (oh wait, thats now). What about Kitty? Was in it, but not really in the story. Angel? Oh ya, thats right.

Dont assume before you know the facts. The people who are whining keep saying the same stuff over and over again. Even when no one is in the thread but themselves, they keep spewing idiotic statements.

[The Batman]

The only people that can call it whining are those safe in the knowledge their favourite characters are safe with some grand scenes. Its hard to see how the movies have gone down such a path where big fans of the original Xman and leader of the Xmen are praying he gets more than two scenes


I agree wholehartedly. I mean, call us whiners, but imagine if your favorite x-man got the shaft for two movies, and then got unceremoniously killed just to build up another character, in a film based on the comic where said x-man is a main part of

[the Firestarter]

his absense from any additional scenes in the trailer mean nothing... particularly if cyclops is being saved for a surprise. however, if we do see an additional scene we can be almost sure he doesn't die at alkali lake.

[peteapan]

I know where you guys are coming. Believe me, I know. Cyclops is my 2nd favorite character, and I HATE how he's been treated in this series so far. Not so much the first (which still was unfair to him), but ESPECIALLY in X2.

But you have to see it from a different perspective. It gets tiring, because we've been getting more positive news about Scott, and it seems that you guys are looking more at the downside, rather than the up.

Remember that we have a new crew handling the movies now. While I'm not certain of how they'll treat Scott, I have hope that things will be different this time around. Scott deserves it. :)

I am well aware of the new crew and was so happy with the end of X2 presumingly offering Cyclops far more of a chance to shine in the next film with the pheonix saga featuring Scott heavily. But since then it seems nothing really positive regarding cyclops has emerged. The set reports i was hoping would offer some hope offered nothing, and the teaser did nothing more than predict his doom. It was so damn obvious Empire was gonna feature Halle and Hugh throughout their X3 preview and its sad where its got to that state where you already know who the coverage and then movie is going to focus around. Its supposed to be a team movie, and the team movie should have its leader

[Lightning Strykez!]

I am well aware of the new crew and was so happy with the end of X2 presumingly offering Cyclops far more of a chance to shine in the next film with the pheonix saga featuring Scott heavily. But since then it seems nothing really positive regarding cyclops has emerged. The set reports i was hoping would offer some hope offered nothing, and the teaser did nothing more than predict his doom. It was so damn obvious Empire was gonna feature Halle and Hugh throughout their X3 preview and its sad where its got to that state where you already know who the coverage and then movie is going to focus around. Its supposed to be a team movie, and the team move should have its leader

Not to be insensitive, but...90% of the actors in this film were not interviewed in those set reports. Only 3 of the top-billed actors were. Even if there were no question about Scott's presence in this film, it's very likely that James Marsden would've been overlooked to represent the franchise. This has been the case in previous on-set reports (correct me if I'm wrong).

Have you stopped to consider that maybe James (like Patrick, who was in London) wasn't available for interviewing? Or that maybe asking him the same questions might prove to be too spoilerish and would violate the embargo FOX has obviously placed on the actors?

[JustABill]

I am well aware of the new crew and was so happy with the end of X2 presumingly offering Cyclops far more of a chance to shine in the next film with the pheonix saga featuring Scott heavily. But since then it seems nothing really positive regarding cyclops has emerged. The set reports i was hoping would offer some hope offered nothing, and the teaser did nothing more than predict his doom. It was so damn obvious Empire was gonna feature Halle and Hugh throughout their X3 preview and its sad where its got to that state where you already know who the coverage and then movie is going to focus around. Its supposed to be a team movie, and the team move should have its leader

Halle and Hugh are not focused on because of their characters seeming like the leads of the film, but because they are the BIGGEST stars within the cast. They simply just generate more mola for Fox than James Marsden, Ellen Page, Ben Foster, etc.

And for the most part this film is sounding more like a team film than ever! You have things about Kitty phasing through walls, Iceman icing up, Beast fighting Callisto, confronting Magneto, Angel playing a major part, etc.

Sure Cyclops is no where at all it seems in this action, but hopefully for you guys and my sake (cause I will be a bit sad if he's regulated to the background again, cause hey, third favorite X-Man.)

[WorthyStevens]

I am well aware of the new crew and was so happy with the end of X2 presumingly offering Cyclops far more of a chance to shine in the next film with the pheonix saga featuring Scott heavily. But since then it seems nothing really positive regarding cyclops has emerged. The set reports i was hoping would offer some hope offered nothing, and the teaser did nothing more than predict his doom. It was so damn obvious Empire was gonna feature Halle and Hugh throughout their X3 preview and its sad where its got to that state where you already know who the coverage and then movie is going to focus around. Its supposed to be a team movie, and the team move should have its leader

I've seen some good things:

"Q: Is the Cyclops character, is he back, because I know the actor is working with Bryan on Superman?

Gorder: Yes, Cyclops is back, and we're very happy to have him back. We've completed his filming with Cyclops, but he is coming back to shoot one additional pick up shot, so we're hoping to do that in the next couple of weeks. So we're very, Brett was very adamant about bringing back the original cast to the extent that we could and that they were available. President McKenna who was played by Cotter Smith in X-Men 2 was not available to us, so we recast the president. But as far as the X-Men, and the minor X-Men, even the kids that had no lines that were basically cameos in the back, we brought them back. Like Jubilee, and Artie, and the kids from X2 and it actually was a great idea because you get to see these kids have gotten older. And Artie was like this big, is now taller than me, and they're going through puberty and stuff which is exciting because X-Men is about the angst of puberty, a lot of the kids that are in the school. So it was really fun to see. Even Siren is back and she's like really tall now, it was nice that Brett brought the kids back and we tried to incorporate and give them little moments like they had before. There's a little moment with Jones changing the channel on the TV, again sort of in that vein. It's nice to see those kids come back. It does feel like family, and like real school, especially when you're over at Royal Roads where we shoot the school and the downstairs area of the school."

James has one more scene to do. Now, he's already filmed for at least 2 weeks. If his role was that small, why is he back for a pickup?

"Q: Were there things, effects, in X-Men and X2, that you saw that maybe you didn't understand or thought that you could improve upon that you are now implementing for this film?

Bruno: Well our approach is to start with what everybody knows and see if we can enhance it a little bit. We're not trying to alter things entirely. I think we're going to try to make the rays from Cyclops a little more visceral, a little more realistic looking."

I found it weird how Bruno worded that. He said rays, as in Cyclops will use his power more than once, which is more than the AICN script and the trailer has lead us to believe. :cool:

[Maze]

his absense from any additional scenes in the trailer mean nothing... particularly if cyclops is being saved for a surprise. however, if we do see an additional scene we can be almost sure he doesn't die at alkali lake.

from my point of view ( and some people know it here) after having think a little more on the subject , i would prefer for him to have two or three really great scene where his character would really shine for once , then die ..in a great way ( so,forgetting that lame death from the Aicn draft..Maybe if they have kept his death at Alkali they have found a way to make it work witout it being laughable for some or unerving and all kind of negative feelings that you can think of, for others..)

what would be the point for him to come back at the end again?(and again he doesn't appear to be in any of the major scene ..forgetting the end)

It's even more humiliating imo , it's like a running joke..

i say , let's let Cyke rest in peace..he's had his share of humiliations in this serie of movies..;)

[peteapan]

Its hard to accept that every single magazine that features X3 features only Halle and Hugh. Your points cant be argued with, they are the biggest stars, and maybe he like others wasnt available for interviews. But when so little info comes out about him, and so little focus appears to be on Cyke, any big fan would feel downhearted

[cookiva]

Its hard to accept that every single magazine that features X3 features only Halle and Hugh. Your points cant be argued with, they are the biggest stars, and maybe he like others wasnt available for interviews. But when so little info comes out about him, and so little focus appears to be on Cyke, any big fan would feel downhearted

Mhm, so now you are not only questioning who we are, but questioning our love for the Xmen. Great way to continue a debate...

[Lightning Strykez!]

Its hard to accept that every single magazine that features X3 features only Halle and Hugh. Your points cant be argued with, they are the biggest stars, and maybe he like others wasnt available for interviews. But when so little info comes out about him, and so little focus appears to be on Cyke, any big fan would feel downhearted

Like I said: You have over 2 dozen major characters.

You choose 3 to feature along with the director.

Where is the crime? Like I said, even if he was in no danger of being "killed" he is still a B-list (though every underrated and skilled) actor. He wouldn't have been selected anyway.

[peteapan]

Mhm, so now you are not only questioning who we are, but questioning our love for the Xmen. Great way to continue a debate...

who you are? And I meant a major fan of cyke. pretty obvious that people posting are big Xmen fans.

[Maze]

Well cookiva i am going to do a little hs her , i agree with you there is no question that one can be a fan and accept cyke fate in a certain context .... but you know ,many times here at xmen hype, i read that if you were a little worried about the movie ,if you questionned some of the choices you were not really a fan of the Xmen..i hope that from now on,some people will understand that indeed,it does not help a debate ..;)

[cookiva]

who you are? And I meant a major fan of cyke. pretty obvious that people posting are big Xmen fans.


Ask around. While people know me to not be a huge Scott fan, I do love him, and respect him. While what could potentially happen in X3 could be bad, it could also be good. Would you like a rehash of X2, with no lines, no action, no emotion (that is, till the last 2 minutes of the film)? I would rather see him die if it serves a purpose, and if its not a punk out death.

Oh, and that who are you line is quite sad. Reminds me of "Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you?" from Family Guy....

[WorthyStevens]

I want to repost this. :cool:

Quote:
Originally Posted by peteapan
I am well aware of the new crew and was so happy with the end of X2 presumingly offering Cyclops far more of a chance to shine in the next film with the pheonix saga featuring Scott heavily. But since then it seems nothing really positive regarding cyclops has emerged. The set reports i was hoping would offer some hope offered nothing, and the teaser did nothing more than predict his doom. It was so damn obvious Empire was gonna feature Halle and Hugh throughout their X3 preview and its sad where its got to that state where you already know who the coverage and then movie is going to focus around. Its supposed to be a team movie, and the team move should have its leader


I've seen some good things:

"Q: Is the Cyclops character, is he back, because I know the actor is working with Bryan on Superman?

Gorder: Yes, Cyclops is back, and we're very happy to have him back. We've completed his filming with Cyclops, but he is coming back to shoot one additional pick up shot, so we're hoping to do that in the next couple of weeks. So we're very, Brett was very adamant about bringing back the original cast to the extent that we could and that they were available. President McKenna who was played by Cotter Smith in X-Men 2 was not available to us, so we recast the president. But as far as the X-Men, and the minor X-Men, even the kids that had no lines that were basically cameos in the back, we brought them back. Like Jubilee, and Artie, and the kids from X2 and it actually was a great idea because you get to see these kids have gotten older. And Artie was like this big, is now taller than me, and they're going through puberty and stuff which is exciting because X-Men is about the angst of puberty, a lot of the kids that are in the school. So it was really fun to see. Even Siren is back and she's like really tall now, it was nice that Brett brought the kids back and we tried to incorporate and give them little moments like they had before. There's a little moment with Jones changing the channel on the TV, again sort of in that vein. It's nice to see those kids come back. It does feel like family, and like real school, especially when you're over at Royal Roads where we shoot the school and the downstairs area of the school."



James has one more scene to do. Now, he's already filmed for at least 2 weeks. If his role was that small, why is he back for a pickup?



"Q: Were there things, effects, in X-Men and X2, that you saw that maybe you didn't understand or thought that you could improve upon that you are now implementing for this film?

Bruno: Well our approach is to start with what everybody knows and see if we can enhance it a little bit. We're not trying to alter things entirely. I think we're going to try to make the rays from Cyclops a little more visceral, a little more realistic looking."



I found it weird how Bruno worded that. He said rays, as in Cyclops will use his power more than once, which is more than the AICN script and the trailer has lead us to believe. :cool:

[cookiva]

Where is the crime? Like I said, even if he was in no danger of being "killed" he is still a B-list (though every underrated and skilled) actor. He wouldn't have been selected anyway.

He is on the same level of stardom as Foster.

We have Halle, Hugh, Ian, Patrick, and Kelsey, and many other B level actors and actresses. Every single magazine cant cover em all, Peta....

[peteapan]

Ask around. While people know me to not be a huge Scott fan, I do love him, and respect him. While what could potentially happen in X3 could be bad, it could also be good. Would you like a rehash of X2, with no lines, no action, no emotion (that is, till the last 2 minutes of the film)? I would rather see him die if it serves a purpose, and if its not a punk out death.

I made the point before that If he is gonna die, then he will die AICN style, the settings of his two scenes in the teaser and what is happening in those brief scenes seem to follow that script review very closely, so they will either be calling our bluff and bringing him back at the end, or killing him off the way it has been reported. I dont think there will be another option of a great powerful death which i would much prefer to see of course than the AICN report

[cookiva]

I made the point before that If he is gonna die, then he will die AICN style, the settings of his two scenes in the teaser and what is happening in those brief scenes seem to follow that script review very closely, so they will either be calling our bluff and bringing him back at the end, or killing him off the way it has been reported. I dont think there will be another option of a great powerful death which i would much prefer to see of course than the AICN report

There is much to lead us to believe the AICN script review is false, enspecially in scene sequential order. Lets start with the first scene. They said it was going to be Angel cutting off his wings, but its confirmed to be. They said that Beast would be the chauffer. He wont be. They said that Gambit was in one of the prison cells (if I remember correctly).

[Lightning Strykez!]

I want to repost this.:cool:


Joining the conversion efforts of Bosef are we?

Have fun. LOL :cool:

[peteapan]

I mean in regards to cykes fate

[Maze]

i agree Pete , we know they have rewritten over and over the script ,so maybe just maybe the scene could have been revritten to be better? Anyways ..I can't imagine that they would let that scene as bad as it was..(now i am more worried about the execution..subtulity has never been Ratner strength..but we never know..)

[Maze]

There is much to lead us to believe the AICN script review is false, enspecially in scene sequential order. Lets start with the first scene. They said it was going to be Angel cutting off his wings, but its confirmed to be. They said that Beast would be the chauffer. He wont be. They said that Gambit was in one of the prison cells (if I remember correctly).

changed yes ...

false no.

[cookiva]

I mean in regards to cykes fate


So wait, we are to only say one thing has been kept the same, when everything else has changed? No one is that stupid, enspecially if that one thing is the one most hated thing about the script. Im sorry, not buying it. No one is that stupid....

[WorthyStevens]

Joining the conversion efforts of Bosef are we?

Have fun. LOL :cool:

If only. ;)

[cookiva]

changed yes ..

false no..

Well, if every scene is changed, and acted differently, how is it not false?

[peteapan]

So wait, we are to only say one thing has been kept the same, when everything else has changed? No one is that stupid, enspecially if that one thing is the one most hated thing about the script. Im sorry, not buying it. No one is that stupid....

Yeh, insane that when reviewing a script they keep some things and change others...

[xwolverine2]

did anyone notice that in the set report thingy...they mentioned they changed cyclopes beam>s<

so that must mean he shoot the beam more than once right?

[Maze]

i'm really sorry , but i'm tired , and i really don't feel to list all the scenes that are in this draft ( changed yes , but they are there)later i will be hmm more functionnal :D..in the meantime , if you have the desire to do so do some research and you'll see ;)

[WorthyStevens]

Yeh, insane that when reviewing a script they keep some things and change others...

Simon and/or Zak said themselves that they've been listening to fan feedback on this movie... since Cyclops AICN death has caused a bad stir among fans, why would they keep it like that?

Why would they want fans to hate the movie?

did anyone notice that in the set report thingy...they mentioned they changed cyclopes beam>s<



so that must mean he shoot the beam more than once right?

That's what I'm saying. But noone listened. :p

[cookiva]

Yeh, insane that when reviewing a script they keep some things and change others...

All they kept were the main plots of the film! The cure and the Phoenix saga. Some scenes are the same, but many are increadibly different. That scene of Beast, Iceman, Kitty, and Colossus breaking into the labs seems to be replaced by Kitty, with Juggernaut chasing her. Cyclops had 1 scene in the AICN script review, but thru pictures that we have seen, he has more than that. We have seen him in a tried and true battle uniform, with tears and cuts, from the Empire Magazine pic. We have plenty of info to show us, that if he does die, it wont be like it was in the AICN script review....

[xwolverine2]

That's what I'm saying. But noone listened. :p
....its true though,think of it.....why would he need to shoot the beams more than once?:confused:

[cookiva]

Simon and/or Zak said themselves that they've been listening to fan feedback on this movie... since Cyclops AICN death has caused a bad stir among fans, why would they keep it like that?

Why would they want fans to hate the movie?


Exactly what Im sayin, dude! No one wants to think that maybe some people arent as stupid as we say they are.....


That's what I'm saying. But noone listened. :p

I did, but no one listened to that!!!

[WorthyStevens]

....its true though,think of it.....why would he need to shoot the beams more than once?:confused:

Exactly. Bruno (or whoever it was) could've easily said they changed his 'power' or 'ability' instead of saying 'rays'. They also could've not brought up Cyclops at all.

[CapBeerCino]

Part of it is, we're venting. on others, unfortunately. Think about it. Wolverine fans get to say Wolvie kicks alot of ass. Storm fans get to say that Storm finally becomes the leader she is in the comics. Kitty and Colossus fans get to say their character's get more screentime in X3, hell, one of them is involved in a love triangle. Jean fans get to say that Jean is pretty much the driving force in the film. Angel fans get to say their character is part of a major plotline in the movie. Beast fans get to say that, not only is fraiser playing him, but his character will be exactly like the comics version.

What does Cyclops have.

Nothing. We're not told he's gonna kick ass. We're not told he'll be a major part of the movie. Nothin'. Nothin' at all...

My feelings exactly. What I don't understand is that "you must be chirpy no matter what" thingy that's been going on.
Im waitin for X-3 like the rest of you and I'm sure it's gonna rock in many ways and I'm excited about many things about it, on the one hand.
On the other my fav character isn't treated the way I'd like it to be and that doesn't make me happy. What is so illegitimate about that?
Even if I was told he gonna live 100% that's not the point (btw after Larryfilmmaker's posts Im pretty positive he won't die) I want to see him in an important role getting decent action scenes.
Yeah, yeah whiny Cyclops fan I know.

[Maze]

Why would they want fans to hate the movie?
The majority of are jumping from joy and saying that this movie will be great because of the danger room , fastball special , sentinels ,etc why would they care if a minority are upset?didn't they said something along the lines of (and i'm sure they are sincere) "we did the best we could do with cyke"

yup , with an actor who's filming two weeks and that have some pick up shots..

[cookiva]

The majority of are jumping from joy and saying that this movie will be great because of the danger room , fastball special , sentinels ,etc why would they care if a minority are upset?didn't they said something along the lines of (and i'm sure they are sincere) "we did the best we could do with cyke"

yup , with an actor who's filming two weeks and that have some pick up shots..

Um, that first paragraph made me laugh my ass off, oh so much....

Alot can be done in 2 weeks.

[Maze]

All they kept were the main plots of the film! The cure and the Phoenix saga. Some scenes are the same, but many are increadibly different. That scene of Beast, Iceman, Kitty, and Colossus breaking into the labs seems to be replaced by Kitty, with Juggernaut chasing her. Cyclops had 1 scene in the AICN script review, but thru pictures that we have seen, he has more than that. We have seen him in a tried and true battle uniform, with tears and cuts, from the Empire Magazine pic. We have plenty of info to show us, that if he does die, it wont be like it was in the AICN script review....

nope for example Angel escape in the same manner..

[WorthyStevens]

Exactly what Im sayin, dude! No one wants to think that maybe some people arent as stupid as we say they are.....

I understand other Cyke's fans concerns and all, but now we have more reasons to think Cyke won't be treated like from the AICN draft!:up:




I did, but no one listened to that!!!

Finally, someone listened to that! I even posted it 2 times, but noone else mentioned it man :p

The majority of are jumping from joy and saying that this movie will be great because of the danger room , fastball special , sentinels ,etc why would they care if a minority are upset?didn't they said something along the lines of (and i'm sure they are sincere) "we did the best we could do with cyke"

Minority? This thread PROVES that Cyke fans are anything but a small group of people. :p

[cookiva]

nope for example Angel escape in the same manner..

Did you expect Angel to casually walk out the front door without opening his wings once? Thats like saying that Wolverine wont unsheath his claws when he is going to kill someone, but he will pull out a knife....

[Maze]

Um, that first paragraph made me laugh my ass off, oh so much....

Alot can be done in 2 weeks.

exact , you are right , Mc Kellen did a lot in two weeks :)

But the difference is that he appeared long before the movie was released to be in the major scenes..cyke ( foregetting the end) doesn't look like he is..

[Maze]

Did you expect Angel to casually walk out the front door without opening his wings once? Thats like saying that Wolverine wont unsheath his claws when he is going to kill someone, but he will pull out a knife....

No i mean that he escaped from a laboratory in the worthington builiding where they tried to give him the cure..it's the same scene.cookiva come on think a little more about that..

[WorthyStevens]

Did you expect Angel to casually walk out the front door without opening his wings once?

I don't know. I half expected him to moonwalk out of Worthington Labs...:p ;)

[cookiva]

exact , you are right , Mc Kellen did a lot in two weeks :)

But the difference is that he appeared long before the movie was released to be in the major scenes..cyke ( foregetting the end) doesn't look like he is..

Magneto is also likely the 2nd most important character in this series, after Logan. Ian, was at that time, probably at the peak of his career in this series, what with LOTR and Xmen going at the same time, everyone knew him. Ask someone who Marsden is, and they would say "Huh?"

[Maze]

i give up you are right , the Aicn is false , and in fact we'll be getting the whole phoenix plot ( forgetting the shiar) edit:from the comics(so with cyke living etc)..

Yup..

Good night people;)

[cookiva]

No i mean that he escaped from a laboratory in the worthington builiding where they tried to give him the cure..it's the same scene.cookiva come on think a little more about that..

Again, how else would he have escaped, and what better way to bring him in than to use him IN HIS STORY! His father created the cure for his son. Why wouldnt his son be the first to test it out, as mutants are concerned??? How about you think of that one! Its a father trying to "save" his son....

[cookiva]

i give up you are right , the Aicn is false , and in fact we'll be getting the whole pheonix plot ( forgetting the shiar) with cyke..

Yup..

Good night people;)

I dont know if that was sarcastic or not, but if so, then maybe we should blame Brian Singer for it. He did kinda bring Phoenix into the story, so the stones were set waaay before X3's script had any plot lines...

[Maze]

Magneto is also likely the 2nd most important character in this series, after Logan. Ian, was at that time, probably at the peak of his career in this series, what with LOTR and Xmen going at the same time, everyone knew him. Ask someone who Marsden is, and they would say "Huh?"

ps:you didn't understand what i was trying to say:

all the major scene from X3 (forgetting the third act, and Phoenix rising) have more or less been revealed..and cyke is not in it ...and if he is , he is either in a coma state or he has been kidnapped..again.

And that is a joke.

I really hope that he dies in a great way.

good night.

[cookiva]

ps:you didn't understand what i was trying to say:

all the major scene from X3 (forgetting the third act, and Phoenix rising) have more or less been revealed..and cyke is not in it ...and if he is , he is either in a coma state or he has been kidnapped..again.


Revealed in what way???? AICNs review still isnt the script, and we all know that! Why are you clinging onto this idea that that was the final script!?!?!?!

[WorthyStevens]

ps:you didn't understand what i was trying to say:

all the major scene from X3 (forgetting the third act, and Phoenix rising) have more or less been revealed..and cyke is not in it ...and if he is , he is either in a coma state or he has been kidnapped..again.

And that is a joke.

I really hope that he dies in a great way.

good night.

Look at Angel though... he has a major part in this movie, and the only action scene of his that's been revealed is of the escape from his father's lab...

[Maze]

Revealed in what way???? AICNs review still isnt the script, and we all know that! Why are you clinging onto this idea that that was the final script!?!?!?!

i didn't said that

and i will not discuss further with you.you seem to be really upset , foregetting that it is a movie..

calm down , and we'll discuss.

See y a later.

[cookiva]

i didn't said that

and i will not discuss further with you.you seem to be really upset , foregetting that it is a movie..

calm down , and we'll discuss.

See y a later.

If you think Im not calm, then you need to understand human emotions a lil better.

Now, onto the matter on hand. You have said that, and implied it many times. Flat out saying this now doesnt change the fact that you believe that the AICN script review revealed everything...

[Maze]

Yup ok i said that you are right..;)

and sorry to have interpreted your ????????????????!!
And your AAAA!!!

that's right i'm so stupid to not understand human emotions on the internet when somebody type like that yup.

[cookiva]

and sorry to have interpreted your ????????????????!!
And your AAAA!!!

.

You obviously do need sleep....

[Maze]

Look at Angel though... he has a major part in this movie, and the only action scene of his that's been revealed is of the escape from his father's lab...

good point.

and i insist that scene ( that scene cookiva not all the scenes ) seem to be the same than in the Aicn Script..now a lot of scenes have changed but they are there.(and i will not write a list now..i dunno if would gain some time doing it thinking about it lol) so no the Aicn draft was not a false one.

[WorthyStevens]

Yup ok i said that you are right..;)

and sorry to have interpreted your ????????????????!!
And your AAAA!!!

that's right i'm so stupid to not understand human emotions on the internet when somebody type like that yup.

I'm kinda confused by your statement. :p

[WorthyStevens]

good point.

and i insist that scene ( that scene cookiva not all the scenes ) seem to be the same than in the Aicn Script..now a lot of scenes have changed but they are there.(and i will not write a list now..i dunno if would gain some time doing it thinking about it lol) so no the Aicn draft was not a false one.

Which could also mean that instead of outright dying in that scene, Cyclops could appear to have died. Like we won't actually see what's happening.

[Maze]

You obviously do need sleep....
i do indeed , but i think that you need to learn to understand that aggressiveness or what appear to be because of your way of typing doesn't help a debate ( or somebody tired to read you lol)

[cookiva]

i do indeed , but i think that you need to learn to understand that aggressiveness or what appear to be because of your way of typing doesn't help a debate ( or somebody tired to read you lol)

Ok, Ill stop using question marks....

[Maze]

Which could also mean that instead of outright dying in that scene, Cyclops could appear to have died. Like we won't actually see what's happening.

yup but (and sorry to repost it but i'm really well you know :D ;)


from my point of view ( and some people know it here) after having think a little more on the subject , i would prefer for him to have two or three really great scene where his character would really shine for once , then die ..in a great way ( so,forgetting that lame death from the Aicn draft..Maybe if they have kept his death at Alkali they have found a way to make it work witout it being laughable for some or unerving and all kind of negative feelings that you can think of, for others..)

what would be the point for him to be in a coma or kidnapped again , and to see him come back at the end?(and again he doesn't appear to be in any of the major scene ..forgetting the end)

It's even more humiliating imo , it's like a running joke..

i say , let's let Cyke rest in peace..he's had his share of humiliations in this serie of movies..

Ps: yes we didn't see saw all the Angel scenes , but we know that he has a storyline that is separated from the Xmen..and an important one ( the cure test )the same could be done with cyke , yep ( but it's beginning to be rather crowded as far as we are talking storyline,and even more in a movie rumored to be less than two hours ..) but again if it is to seem him rescued by the bartender from X1 not aware that he is a mutant, or something along those line , again i say let's let him rest in peace..Let's let him die in a geat way..

that's the best homage Simon and Zach(and some others) could give him imo..

[vanillacyke]

Poor Cyclops. If I were a kid again and had watched these movies I would be so perplexed (I mean a kid does'nt get hollywood politics or anything like that). I wish this thread had some ray's of sunshine to it. Everyone that comes here is hanging on strings of either hope or despair.

[WorthyStevens]

Poor Cyclops. If I were a kid again and had watched these movies I would be so perplexed (I mean a kid does'nt get hollywood politics or anything like that). I wish this thread had some ray's of sunshine to it. Everyone that comes here is hanging on strings of either hope or despair.

Your kidding right?

[Storm22]

PLEASE GOD they'll show a shot of Cyclops in uniform in the trailer!! One little shot, all the speculation is too much!

[FRUITY]

PLEASE GOD they'll show a shot of Cyclops in uniform in the trailer!! One little shot, all the speculation is too much!

No. It's good we have all this speculation, it builds up the anticipation for Cyclops.

[vanillacyke]

Your kidding right?

God forbid I have an opinion and my own mind, I'm sorry I guess I'll just try to be like worthystevens4. I'll dedicate all my posts to copying worthystevens4 posts. This way everyone will like me cause I'm a mindless drone, here I'll start.

Your kidding right?

[xwolverine2]

PLEASE GOD they'll show a shot of Cyclops in uniform in the trailer!! One little shot, all the speculation is too much!
hahaha!...lol

yeah,that would prob. shut some of these "cyclops" people up.




for a while..:(

[gap5ewl]

Yeah I'm really hoping for a cyclops shot in costume in the upcoming trailer.

[xwolverine2]

Yeah I'm really hoping for a cyclops shot in costume in the upcoming trailer.
yeah id like to see cyclops get shot too...:up:





:p

[gap5ewl]

yeah id like to see cyclops get shot too...:up:





:p
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Storm22]

No. It's good we have all this speculation, it builds up the anticipation for Cyclops.

Yeah but at least if we saw a Cyclops uniform shot, we could narrow down the speculation, we could cross that off the list so to speak. I reckon we might, I doubt they'll show a whole trailer with no shot of Cyclops. Fingers crossed anyway!

[xwolverine2]

Yeah but at least if we saw a Cyclops uniform shot, we narrow down the speculation, we could cross that off the list so to speak. I reckon we might, I doubt they'll show a whole trailer with no shot of Cyclops. Fingers crossed anyway!
yeah they HAVE TO have him in the trailer....at least a voice over!:up: :)

[Storm22]

and they've showed everyone else in their uniform, bar Angel, so as I said - finger's FIRMLY crossed!

[PhoenixRising]

I hope Cyclops lives.......but takes a short vacation from the X-Men

[FRUITY]

Yeah but at least if we saw a Cyclops uniform shot, we could narrow down the speculation, we could cross that off the list so to speak. I reckon we might, I doubt they'll show a whole trailer with no shot of Cyclops. Fingers crossed anyway!

I don't know...........Even if we saw Cyclops i don't think it'll do anything to the speculation unless we see Cyclops battling with the X-men then this whole speculation will calm down, otherwise no. Anyway, after the 1st trailer what's going through our heads right now? (about Cyclops that is) Will he die? Will he live? Will he play an integral part to this story? And that's what kept our anticipation for this movie up, I think it's better we walk in the cinema extremely curious rather than slightly comforted. Maybe I'm in the minority here but that's my opinion anyway.

[xwolverine2]

I don't know...........Even if we saw Cyclops i don't think it'll do anything to the speculation unless we see Cyclops battling with the X-men then this whole speculation will calm down, otherwise no. Anyway, after the 1st trailer what's going through our heads right now? (about Cyclops that is) Will he die? Will he live? Will he play an integral part to this story? And that's what kept our anticipation for this movie up, I think it's better we walk in the cinema extremely curious rather than slightly comforted. Maybe I'm in the minority here but that's my opinion anyway.
i agree with you........id rather not know until the movie.

ps: i hope he dies.....it would be wicked scary to see jean kill him...the only person who might have had a chance to turn her back to sanity:up: it would be a badass first view of how f****** crazy jean has become:up:

but thats just me...FOR SURE

[peteapan]

i agree with you........id rather not know until the movie.

ps: i hope he dies.....it would be wicked scary to see jean kill him...the only person who might have had a chance to turn her back to sanity:up: it would be a badass first view of how f****** crazy jean has become:up:

but thats just me...FOR SURE

Evil view! :down :(

[Magneto29]

That new picture of him in uniform, too me it looks like a few promo pics from X2 that I have seen. I'm trying to find them online, but no such luck yet.

[xwolverine2]

Evil view! :down :(
:up: :D

[Storm22]

I'm half with you xwolverine2, I think Jean/Phoenix killing Cyclops would really highlight how lethal and menacing she has become. On the other hand though I'm not too fond of the idea of killing off a major charatcer. I wouldn't mind him dying and being resurrected, or the audience thinking he's dead when he's not, or something like that - I would like to see some action scenes from Cyclops though, in his uniform and with his visor!

[xwolverine2]

I'm half with you xwolverine2, I think Jean/Phoenix killing Cyclops would really highlight how lethal and menacing she has become. On the other hand though I'm not too fond of the idea of killing off a major charatcer. I wouldn't mind him dying and being resurrected, or the audience thinking he's dead when he's not, or something like that - I would like to see some action scenes from Cyclops though, in his uniform and with his visor!
yeah i guess id like that too...

just as long as if he lives....he lives for a dam reason!

[PWN3R]

yeah i guess id like that too...

just as long as if he lives....he lives for a dam reason!

Hey..watch your language!!!! ;)

[xwolverine2]

Hey..watch your language!!!! ;)
:confused: :confused: :confused:






dam is not a bad word

[PWN3R]

:confused: :confused: :confused:






dam is not a bad word

...yeah...its boring here....

Date Movie was dumb....

[xwolverine2]

...yeah...its boring here....

Date Movie was dumb....
hahaha you actually saw it....my friends said it was worse than Veggietales:eek:

[PWN3R]

hahaha you actually saw it....my friends said it was worse than Veggietales:eek:

We were bored, and went to see that, and I wasted more than an hour of my life.....:down

[SlimDayspring]

Cyclops had 1 scene in the AICN script review, but thru pictures that we have seen, he has more than that. We have seen him in a tried and true battle uniform, with tears and cuts, from the Empire Magazine pic.
What picture is that?

[Storm22]

Yeah was wondering that too. I don't think his uniform is torn, his collar is folded over a bit but that's it.

[turtlenation]

Last night I dreamed of the Alkali Lake scene, here's how it went:

-Scott arrives at Alkali Lake
-Overwhelmed with emotion, he goes mad and shoots off optic blasts to wretched lake that killed his fiancee
-The surface of the lake erupts violently but a little bit longer than normal
-Jean rises and floats toward him
-Scott runs towards her, filled with disbelief and joy
-Jean becomes overwhelmed with her new but still uncontrollable powers
-In a violent explosion of light, she accidentally sends Scott flying off to the forest miles away, knocking off his glasses
-Jean collapses into a coma, last believing she has killed Scott
-Logan arrives in the site and find Scott's glasses floating in the air
-He also finds the unconscious Jean and takes her to the Mansion

-Scott wakes up deep in the forest, injured but alive
-When the trees around him start bursting into splinters, he realizes he has lost his glasses
-He decides to close his eyes so not to harm anyone
-He is lost without his glasses but he must come back to the lake and find Jean

That's it.

[tonytr1687]

Last night I dreamed of the Alkali Lake scene, here's how it went:

-Scott arrives at Alkali Lake
-Overwhelmed with emotion, he goes mad and shoots off optic blasts to wretched lake that killed his fiancee
-The surface of the lake erupts violently but a little bit longer than normal
-Jean rises and floats toward him
-Scott runs towards her, filled with disbelief and joy
-Jean becomes overwhelmed with her new but still uncontrollable powers
-In a violent explosion of light, she accidentally sends Scott flying off to the forest miles away, knocking off his glasses
-Jean collapses into a coma, last believing she has killed Scott
-Logan arrives in the site and find Scott's glasses floating in the air
-He also finds the unconscious Jean and takes her to the Mansion

-Scott wakes up deep in the forest, injured but alive
-When the trees around him start bursting into splinters, he realizes he has lost his glasses
-He decides to close his eyes so not to harm anyone
-He is lost without his glasses but he must come back to the lake and find Jean

That's it.

This is almost exactly how I've been wanting the actual scene to go down. The only difference is my idea has the old anti-mutant bartender from X1 finding Scott and, not knowing he's a mutant, offering to take him back to his house so his wife can nurse his wounds (Scott refuses to go to a hospital). While Scott is nursed back to health he opens up to the couple about his problems (w/o revealing he is a mutant) and the couple become sympathetic. Scott forms a bond with them so that when they do find out he's a mutant, they realize that not all mutants are bad and they have a change of heart. Scott sees the effect he has had on them and starts to fully believe once and for all in Xavier's dream. When he hears of what's happening in San Francisco he asks the couple if they would take him to the mansion and they do. There he cleans up, gets his visor, suits up and flies a helicopter to SF where he's able to intervene and save Jean from herself. With the experience he had with the bartender and his wife, Scott is able to take the reigns of the school in wake of Xavier's death and carry on the dream of peaceful coexistence b/w humans and mutants.

Well...thats how I would do it. Much better than killing him off and it certainly wouldn't require a lot of screen time so as to take away from the main plot.

[PhePhe112]

Last night I dreamed of the Alkali Lake scene, here's how it went:

-Scott arrives at Alkali Lake
-Overwhelmed with emotion, he goes mad and shoots off optic blasts to wretched lake that killed his fiancee
-The surface of the lake erupts violently but a little bit longer than normal
-Jean rises and floats toward him
-Scott runs towards her, filled with disbelief and joy
-Jean becomes overwhelmed with her new but still uncontrollable powers
-In a violent explosion of light, she accidentally sends Scott flying off to the forest miles away, knocking off his glasses
-Jean collapses into a coma, last believing she has killed Scott
-Logan arrives in the site and find Scott's glasses floating in the air
-He also finds the unconscious Jean and takes her to the Mansion

-Scott wakes up deep in the forest, injured but alive
-When the trees around him start bursting into splinters, he realizes he has lost his glasses
-He decides to close his eyes so not to harm anyone
-He is lost without his glasses but he must come back to the lake and find Jean

That's it.
thats awesome, i hope thats what happens! do you have some mutant powers your not telling us?? (like seeing the future of movies lol):O

[PWN3R]

Well...thats how I would do it. Much better than killing him off and it certainly wouldn't require a lot of screen time so as to take away from the main plot.

Man I really dig that...sadly it prolly won't go down that way.

[Downhere]

hahaha you actually saw it....my friends said it was worse than Veggietales:eek:

Hey, don't diss Veggietales!

[WorthyStevens]

God forbid I have an opinion and my own mind, I'm sorry I guess I'll just try to be like worthystevens4. I'll dedicate all my posts to copying worthystevens4 posts. This way everyone will like me cause I'm a mindless drone, here I'll start.

Your kidding right?

Dude. I'm not.

First, I'm not 'hanging on a string of despair or hope'. Just because I tend to look at the more positive aspect of Cyke's well-being in X3 does not make me a 'mindless drone.' :o You don't agree with me? Fine. I don't care, but just because I don't have the same point of view as you do, it does not give you the right to say that I'm a mindless drone.

This thread has had PLENTY of rays of sunshine in it, but it's comments like yours that obliterate those rays.

And gap, I love your new avy.

[The Guard]

What does Cyclops have.

He clearly has a scene with Wolverine. He will probably have a scene with Xavier. And maybe Storm. And there is obviously some major drama to be found at Alkali Lake involving him, Jean, and Wolverine. The presence of an X-suit suggests that he does indeed fight at some point. In a cast this size, and having limited his availability, that's not a bad role to play in this movie. And who knows, there may well be more to it.

[peteapan]

A lot of people seem to think its a cert that Xavier is gonna die, but have question marks over cykes future. Why is Xavier so much more clear cut to people? Love the idea of him being blasted back into the forest having to cope as what is basically a blind man without his visor. The Bartender sub plot would provide him with a key yet small enough role and Id love it. I wanna see action scenes but more than anythin I wanna see him take control on the battle field arranging formations and strategies to take down the enemy as only Scott can. From Astonishing no.8 - Wolverine - "Every now and then Summers, I remember why you're still in charge"

[Aiden]

I wanted to know if we get to see more of Wolverine and Cyclops bickering in X-3?

*Yup. You will.
Something new. Bickering in the battle field? :D

[Retroman]

Last night I dreamed of the Alkali Lake scene, here's how it went:

-Scott arrives at Alkali Lake
-Overwhelmed with emotion, he goes mad and shoots off optic blasts to wretched lake that killed his fiancee
-The surface of the lake erupts violently but a little bit longer than normal
-Jean rises and floats toward him
-Scott runs towards her, filled with disbelief and joy
-Jean becomes overwhelmed with her new but still uncontrollable powers
-In a violent explosion of light, she accidentally sends Scott flying off to the forest miles away, knocking off his glasses
-Jean collapses into a coma, last believing she has killed Scott
-Logan arrives in the site and find Scott's glasses floating in the air
-He also finds the unconscious Jean and takes her to the Mansion

-Scott wakes up deep in the forest, injured but alive
-When the trees around him start bursting into splinters, he realizes he has lost his glasses
-He decides to close his eyes so not to harm anyone
-He is lost without his glasses but he must come back to the lake and find Jean

That's it.
My god thats so beautiful:( :up:

[Retroman]

Updated Timeline.....

MARSDEN'S HECTIC SUPERHERO LIFE

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman_returns/_group_photos/brandon_routh1.jpghttp://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/x_men_3/james_marsden/xmen3_char.jpg


January 13, 2005
-James Marsden signs on to Superman Returns. He's playing Lois Lane's fiancé and father(?) of her child, Richard White.

March, 2005
-Marsden starts filming Superman Returns(SR) in Sydney, Australia.

March 19, 2005
-Avi Arad told the audience at Wizard World that he hopes to have James Marsden reprise his role as Cyclops in the next installment of the mutant series. Arad says that James Marsden called him and said that he read about this on the internet and said, "what are you doing...I told you I'm in."

March 22, 2005
-Matthew Vaughn announced as the new X-Men 3 director.

April 8, 2005
-Writer Kinberg (working with Vaughn on screenplay at the time) tells Moviehole:''I believe he is now (returning). The way I've written his character now. I'm trying to write him so he only has to come back for a couple of weeks. But he's definitely a part of the movie."

May 11, 2005
-Marsden offers to do X-Men 3 for free.

May 31, 2005
-Vaughn leaves X-Men 3.

June, 2005
-Marsden gets month and half break from SR schedule. Promotes Heights in the USA and spends time with 7 month pregnant wife and family.Meets old friend and co-star Famke Janssen at Heights after-party.

June 6, 2005
-Brett Ratner announced as new X-Men 3 director.

July, 2005
-Marsden returns to Sydney, Australia for SR shoot.

July, 2005
Production illustrator and storyboard artist Federico D'Alessandro posts a storyboard of a fight between Cyclops and Juggernaut. Speculation is that this scene was cut before production started.

August, 2005
-X-Men 3 begins principal photgraphy at the Royal Roads (Xavier's School) in Victoria, Canada. No sign of Marsden on the set.

August 10, 2005
-Marsden and his wife Lisa Linde, 33, welcome their second child. A daughter named Mary James. They also have a 4 year old son, Jack.

September 9, 2005
-SR goes on hiatus. Cast and crew leave Sydney for a well deserved break.Marsden heads to Vancouver for X-Men 3.

September 7 - 19, 2005
Exterior shoot for one of Marsden's scenes takes place between the Revelstoke and Mica Dam in British Columbia, Canada.It can be seen in the trailer.
Pics of set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaftigvegan/42018516/in/set-921188/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaftigvegan/42020573/in/set-921188/

October 19, 2005
-Marsden signs on to voice the animated movie Conan: Red Nails.

October 20, 2005
-Producer Ralph Winter tells TheXverse that ''We have photographed most of his work. Jimmy is a key cast member of this adventure.''

Mid/Late October, 2005
-SR filming resumes in Sydney, Australia. Cast and crew return including Marsden.

November 7, 2005
-Signs on to the all star (and i mean all-star) ensemble cast of 'Bobby'.

November 24, 2005
-SR principal photography ends in Sydney, Australia. Marsden jets back to North America.

December 7, 2005
-Marsden signs on to big-budget family film 'Enchanted'.

December, 2005
-Spotted in Los Angeles with other celebrities by newspaper.

Late December,2005/Early January, 2006
-Principal Photography ends for X-Men 3. Some sets remain intact for pick-ups, re-shoot and possible additional shooting March, 2006 in Vancouver and possibly Fox Studios in L.A.

January, 2006
-Bobby photography ends in Los Angeles. Marsden name appears on press release quashing rumors he'd bailed on the project.

February, 2006
-Visual effects supervisor John Bruno says he wants to make a little more realistic/more visceral looking optic blast for Cyclops.
-Writers Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn profess their love for the character Cyclops and say the would like to have James Marsden presence back on the set.
-Empire Magazine publish a first photo of Marsden in full X battle costume.


March, 2006
Marsden will possibly return to the Vancouver set for additional shooting.

April, 2006
-Marsden to start work on Enchanted in New York.

May, 2006
-Worldwide Release of X3 and press tour duties?

June, 2006
-Worldwide release of SR and press tour duties.



Sources: About.com, Newsweek, Coming Soon, Flickr, Superherohype, TheXverse, IESB, XMF, imdb and more

[WalkingDead]

Good Timeline...
Way to go there Retro.

Heh...sounds like Cyke's gonna be fine, may still die, but he's gonna at least have a couple solid scenes.

[CapBeerCino]

Updated Timeline.....

October 20, 2005
-Producer Ralph Winter tells TheXverse that ''We have photographed most of his work. Jimmy is a key cast member of this adventure.''


Hehe I remember all the fuss the "key cast" expression made.

[Essex]

And to whoever said Cyke's collar in that pic is merely folded over. Sorry look again. There is a distinct "jagged-ness" right below the top neck line that suggests that area has been rippes by something. It almost looks like that top neck line is actually a black shirt he's wearing underneath the leather outfit.

It's folded. You can see the shadow under the fold. You'll see when we get a bigger pic. And he wore a shirt under the leather in X2.

[Iceman]

The role of Perry White's son really is not in the same league as Cyclops done properly

[Storm22]

One thing I've always wondered about James Marsden's decision to go out of his way to come back for X3 though - why would he bother if he was gonna get a crappy role in the movie?! There must have been some incentive to come back and before everyone starts saying money - he said he'd do X3 for free, that's how determined he was to come back.

[GothicPowerMix1]

One thing I've always wondered about James Marsden's decision to go out of his way to come back for X3 though - why would he bother if he was gonna get a crappy role in the movie. There must have been some incentive to come back!

Cyclops does has his own X Suit (as seen in the Pictures) This would be the PERFECT conclusion for the Final Battle

Imagine during the Final Battle of X3 most if not all the X-Men end up in one place captured & surrounded by a bunch of Brotherhood Members (Jean still a bad guy at this stage) then out of no where we see Red Lasers flying all over the place killing bad guys / distracting the rest allowing the X-Men to break free & kick some butt & we alo see Cyclops kick some butt as well. Who ends up being the hero ?

Cyclops

They can have it so if it was not for Cyclops the X-Men would not have been able to break free & stop the Brotherhood

They can also have it so that Cyclops is the one to bring Jean back to her senses & let Jean take care of the big guns

:up:

[Storm22]

?? Sounds great but that wasn't really a response to my post.

[GothicPowerMix1]

?? Sounds great but that wasn't really a response to my post.

Um yeah it was

Like you said there has to be some reason for James to come back. He can be absent / dead for most of the Movie & for the fact alot of People working on this Movie seems to bring up the point that in Comics alot of times People die & come back & considering Cyclops does have his own X-Suit.

Theres hope

[Storm22]

Oh right, got ya! Sorry. Yeah I agree, he may have had a short filming time but yeah he could play a big role at the start and at the end of the movie, I REALLY hope he makes an appearance at the final battle!

[GothicPowerMix1]

Oh right, got ya! Sorry. Yeah I agree, he may have had a short filming time but yeah he could play a big role at the start and at the end of the movie, I REALLY hope he makes an appearance at the final battle!

Youd be amazed at what can be done in a short period of time. Cyclops can show up AFTER Storms had her fight with Jean heck he can show up after EVERYONE had their big moments & steal their thunder.

[Storm22]

I really think that Fox are throwing us a red herring the way they're deliberately showing us so little of and giving us no info on Cyclops. Kinberg did say something about this movie having major plot twists and I think Cyclops' fate and possible appearance in the end battle could be one of those twists! I'm hopeful anyway!

[Kurosawa]

Good Timeline...
Way to go there Retro.

Heh...sounds like Cyke's gonna be fine, may still die, but he's gonna at least have a couple solid scenes.

Yeah, that's just great.:rolleyes:

I 'm thinking that pic of him in an X3 uniform is just a publicity still and not anything from the movie.

[JustABill]

:rolleyes:

Just...

:rolleyes:

[WorthyStevens]

Yeah, that's just great.:rolleyes:

I 'm thinking that pic of him in an X3 uniform is just a publicity still and not anything from the movie.

Is it your mission to ignore all the positivity we've been getting about Cyclops? :rolleyes:

WE'VE GOT A PHOTO OF SCOTT IN UNIFORM.

[CapBeerCino]

:( :( :(

Simon just answered more questions and there will be no new info on Cyclops in the new trailer:


After the official trailer is released will you be able to speak more on Cyclops in this film at all? Ya know give us a little bit more information?

*Not after the trailer. I really feel like we’ve discussed Cyclops to death on these boards. I will definitely stick around after the movie opens, and we can discuss his role after you’ve seen the film.

:( :( :(

[WorthyStevens]

I wouldn't worry about that too much. We already know Scott's role in this movie is being kept top secret.

[CapBeerCino]

:p :p :p

He also answered one of mine:

I wanted to know if we get to see more of Wolverine and Cyclops bickering in X-3?

*Yup. You will.


:p :p :p

[peteapan]

I would love Cyke to come back with a show stealing finale. But I fear if anyone is gonna be made hero at the end of the film its Logan or Storm, with one of them being the one to calm Pheonix. Harsh he still wont elaborate on anything cyclops. Patrick Stewart said there are quite a few significant deaths in this film. Who do people reckon they are if not cyclops?

[WorthyStevens]

I would love Cyke to come back with a show stealing finale. But I fear if anyone is gonna be made hero at the end of the film its Logan or Storm, with one of them being the one to calm Pheonix. Harsh he still wont elaborate on anything cyclops. Patrick Stewart said there are quite a few significant deaths in this film. Who do people reckon they are if not cyclops?

The new set report though stated there would also be resurrections.

[peteapan]

The new set report though stated there would also be resurrections.

I assumed that was just in reference to Pheonix

[Aiden]

Resurrection-s. Plural meaning more than one

[xwolverine2]

The new set report though stated there would also be resurrections.
:confused: :eek: WHERE!?

[WorthyStevens]

I assumed that was just in reference to Pheonix

We already know Jean is resurrected though. By his words, I'm guessing there will be another resurrection aside from Jean...

[WorthyStevens]

My fault. I read it wrong.

Q: Is there any truth that a major character might be killed off?

Gorder: Well, right now we don't want to comment of characters being killed off, but let's just say that in the comic book world, anything is possible as far as being killed off or resurrected (laughs). So yeah, I think that the fans will be pleased with the way that the characters are handled and the way that their story arcs are told. They will be very pleased.

But Gorder did say that the fans will be very pleased. :)

[Compi716]

From the Photo Album thread:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/BonusMage/bettercyclops.jpg

[kookevin3]

does he have the same visor from x2?????????

[Kurosawa]

Is it your mission to ignore all the positivity we've been getting about Cyclops? :rolleyes:

WE'VE GOT A PHOTO OF SCOTT IN UNIFORM.

A photo that is a blatent publicity picture, not a shot from the actual movie.

[WorthyStevens]

A photo that is a blatent publicity picture, not a shot from the actual movie.

So is Rogue's in that same magazine. We haven't seen much of her, do you think she dies as well? :rolleyes:

It might be a publicity picture, but it's a picture of Cyke nonetheless. IN UNIFORM.

[The Batman]

we've seen her in her uniform in the teaser trailer

[N_z0]

So is Rogue's in that same magazine. We haven't seen much of her, do you think she dies as well? :rolleyes:


No. But from the info that we're getting, it looks like she'll have a very limited role. :(

[Specter313]

No. But from the info that we're getting, it looks like she'll have a very limited role. :(

No, Kinberg at least reiterated several times that she would be plenty important to the film, at least where the cure storyline is involved.

[PWN3R]

"Rogue finds a home"

Remember? I think her role will be alot better than X2......

[cookiva]

we've seen her in her uniform in the teaser trailer

We didnt see Angel in uniform in the teaser? Does he die?

[WalkingDead]

We didnt see Angel in uniform in the teaser? Does he die?
Heh...good one.

[Visioncore18]

From the Photo Album thread:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/BonusMage/bettercyclops.jpg

does anyone know for sure that this is a new pic or just an unused pic from X2..?

[Iceman]

We didnt see Angel in uniform in the teaser? Does he die?

Well he must do

What about the Prof?

[peteapan]

Well he must do

What about the Prof?

A pic of Angel in uniform is on the front of the new Wizard mag. I dream of a leather clad Prof X :p

[Kira]

A pic of Angel in uniform is on the front of the new Wizard mag. I dream of a leather clad Prof X :p

:eek:

Scarred for life by that image!



:D :p

[Iceman]

A pic of Angel in uniform is on the front of the new Wizard mag. I dream of a leather clad Prof X :p

As do many

What about Leech?

[peteapan]

As do many

What about Leech?

I dont know if they make uniforms in extra small sizes. Curious to know who makes em though, cos they would have had to come up with costumes to accomidate Angel's wings pretty quickly. I am guessing Beast was previously a member and had his saved. Anyway its not the point that every character who isnt seen in a costume must die, the point is this is Cyclops, leader of the xmen on the battle field, so its a bigger deal if he isnt seen in costume than say Prof X

[CapBeerCino]

We didnt see Angel in uniform in the teaser? Does he die?

How irrelevant. You have nothing else to indicate Angel's death and that's not the case with Scott.

[Essex]

How irrelevant. You have nothing else to indicate Angel's death and that's not the case with Scott.

Exactly. Now people are just being condescending.

And after all this ridiculous talk about how we're unable to admit the truth that Cyclops lives, not one person can give us any proof that the Cyclops image isn't just from X2. Can anybody who has the magazine tell us if the article used any other brand new images we've never seen before?

[peteapan]

Exactly. Now people are just being condescending.

And after all this ridiculous talk about how we're unable to admit the truth that Cyclops lives, not one person can give us any proof that the Cyclops image isn't just from X2. Can anybody who has the magazine tell us if the article used any other brand new images we've never seen before?

It has a couple of fresh new pics to be honest. I mean the cover pics are new, and a few more new ones inside. but nothing from in the movie i havent seen before all cover the same scenes and characters that laready have pics out

[WorthyStevens]

Exactly. Now people are just being condescending.

And after all this ridiculous talk about how we're unable to admit the truth that Cyclops lives, not one person can give us any proof that the Cyclops image isn't just from X2. Can anybody who has the magazine tell us if the article used any other brand new images we've never seen before?

Every single X3 pic from that magazine is from X3! That's your proof.

[WorthyStevens]

Q: Do you know if Cyclops will get on the movie poster?

Simon: I would assume so. I have no idea.

Never mind the 'I have no idea' part (I know he doesn't know for sure), but my point of this post is that he used the word assume. As in, Scott has a big enough part to be featured on the poster.

[The Batman]

Heh...good one.


Not really...

Angel has never been rumored to die, and has never been given any indication

Sorry, try again.

[xwolverine2]

Never mind the 'I have no idea' part (I know he doesn't know for sure), but my point of this post is that he used the word assume. As in, Scott has a big enough part to be featured on the poster.
.......then again he has no idea;)

[lordofthenerds]

Never mind the 'I have no idea' part (I know he doesn't know for sure), but my point of this post is that he used the word assume. As in, Scott has a big enough part to be featured on the poster.
I wonder if he would answer the exact same way if you asked him if Arclight will have a poster.

[xwolverine2]

I wonder if he would answer the exact same way if you asked him if Arclight will have a poster.
wasnt it confirmed she was arclight???:confused:


i dont remember...

[WorthyStevens]

wasnt it confirmed she was arclight???:confused:


i dont remember...

It hasn't been confirmed.

[xwolverine2]

It hasn't been confirmed.
F***

[SlimDayspring]

Last night I dreamed of the Alkali Lake scene, here's how it went:

-Scott arrives at Alkali Lake
-Overwhelmed with emotion, he goes mad and shoots off optic blasts to wretched lake that killed his fiancee
-The surface of the lake erupts violently but a little bit longer than normal
-Jean rises and floats toward him
-Scott runs towards her, filled with disbelief and joy
-Jean becomes overwhelmed with her new but still uncontrollable powers
-In a violent explosion of light, she accidentally sends Scott flying off to the forest miles away, knocking off his glasses
-Jean collapses into a coma, last believing she has killed Scott
-Logan arrives in the site and find Scott's glasses floating in the air
-He also finds the unconscious Jean and takes her to the Mansion

-Scott wakes up deep in the forest, injured but alive
-When the trees around him start bursting into splinters, he realizes he has lost his glasses
-He decides to close his eyes so not to harm anyone
-He is lost without his glasses but he must come back to the lake and find Jean

That's it.
And at the lake he is found by Storm. (It would explain the photo of her in her 'secondary' uniform at what appears to be Alkali Lake.)

It was mentioned in the set report that Marsden was definitely returning for the reshoot to do a scene.

[SlimDayspring]

I might be wrong on the reshoot part, because as I recall the set visit was back in December or so. This is what David Gorder, an associate producer, said...

"Yes, Cyclops is back, and we're very happy to have him back. We've completed his filming with Cyclops, but he is coming back to shoot one additional pick up shot, so we're hoping to do that in the next couple of weeks."

(It's on page 2 of the report: Set Visit Part 2 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3862))

[peteapan]

I might be wrong on the reshoot part, because as I recall the set visit was back in December or so. This is what David Gorder, an associate producer, said...

"Yes, Cyclops is back, and we're very happy to have him back. We've completed his filming with Cyclops, but he is coming back to shoot one additional pick up shot, so we're hoping to do that in the next couple of weeks."

(It's on page 2 of the report: Set Visit Part 2 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3862))

ie. Cyclops scenes are done and dusted by now. boohoo. That doesnt raise much hope for a return in the film

[WorthyStevens]

ie. Cyclops scenes are done and dusted by now. boohoo. That doesnt raise much hope for a return in the film

I swear to God. I think you want Cyke to die.

[CapBeerCino]

Never mind the 'I have no idea' part (I know he doesn't know for sure), but my point of this post is that he used the word assume. As in, Scott has a big enough part to be featured on the poster.

Poor guy. He's only a writer. He wrote part ot the script and they shot it.
Now he's being flooded with questions he has nothing to do with.

[WorthyStevens]

Poor guy. He's only a writer. He wrote part ot the script and they shot it.
Now he's being flooded with questions he has nothing to do with.

I'm surprised he's stuck around this far with some of the questions he's had to dodge.

[Iceman]

I'd go mad with some of the stupid repetitive stuff he has to put up with

Don't know where he finds the patience

[xwolverine2]

I'd go mad with some of the stupid repetitive stuff he has to put up with

Don't know where he finds the patience
maybe fox forces him to answer questions.....fox might want to keep us cool and not 100% in the dark so that were not pissed off..

[Iceman]

maybe fox forces him to answer questions.....fox might want to keep us cool and not 100% in the dark so that were not pissed off..

he must be on horse tranquilisers to stop him from smashing the screen

[CapBeerCino]

And the beauty is he never skip a question. Even if the answer is "I already answered that" or "Spoiler so I can't answer that" (Though most of the time it's "I already answered that it's a spoiler so I can't answer that")
What a guy :)

[Aiden]

Simon is the man :up:

[Iceman]

Cyke should release the track "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" from the Clash

[the_scream]

When you wre asked about Scotts importance in the Dark Phoenix storyline, you said the expect some deviations. This worries me. This suggests that, not only are you going to downplay cyclops' role in the story, but also that the focus would shift from scott and jean to logan and jean. is that the case? If so, than thats blasphemous, IMO. The focal part of the phoenix saga was the love between scott and jean. if you change that, you ruin part of the story.

* Many things have changed on the way from comic to movie. In addition, you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have. I understand your concerns, but the reality of writing a film script is extremely circumscribed, particularly compared to the comic books. I hope you will keep an open mind until you see the film. Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.


Another bad sign...:(

[peteapan]

When you wre asked about Scotts importance in the Dark Phoenix storyline, you said the expect some deviations. This worries me. This suggests that, not only are you going to downplay cyclops' role in the story, but also that the focus would shift from scott and jean to logan and jean. is that the case? If so, than thats blasphemous, IMO. The focal part of the phoenix saga was the love between scott and jean. if you change that, you ruin part of the story.

* Many things have changed on the way from comic to movie. In addition, you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have. I understand your concerns, but the reality of writing a film script is extremely circumscribed, particularly compared to the comic books. I hope you will keep an open mind until you see the film. Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.


Another bad sign...:(

Jeez... that really is an awful sign. ARGHHH. And no Worthy i dont want cyclops to die or i wouldnt visit this board.

[WorthyStevens]

When you wre asked about Scotts importance in the Dark Phoenix storyline, you said the expect some deviations. This worries me. This suggests that, not only are you going to downplay cyclops' role in the story, but also that the focus would shift from scott and jean to logan and jean. is that the case? If so, than thats blasphemous, IMO. The focal part of the phoenix saga was the love between scott and jean. if you change that, you ruin part of the story.

* Many things have changed on the way from comic to movie. In addition, you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have. I understand your concerns, but the reality of writing a film script is extremely circumscribed, particularly compared to the comic books. I hope you will keep an open mind until you see the film. Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.


Another bad sign...:(

Scott was a big part of the Phoenix storyline, no? What Simon could mean is that Scott is absent for most of the movie. While I don't like that idea, it doesn't have to mean they kill Cyclops off.

And read the last sentence.

Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.

Cyclops was alive at the end of those 2 movies, am I right? That's consistency.

[shadowcatII]

http://www.marvellous.neostrada.pl/postacie/Ultimate_Cyclops.GIF

I really wanna see this cyclops....

drool worthy

[Kanon]

you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have.
:eek: This looks really bad for Cyclops' fans! It sound like "we had to deal with actor's contracts, availability and suits at fox asking for some stars getting more screentime by reducing others'.

[Paste Pot Pete]

Hi, everyone. Longtime lurker, firsttime poster.

This is a topic that's of great concern to me, as Cyclops is one of my favorite X-Men. I was hoping for him to have a hefty role in this one due to the nature of the story, but that seems out of the question now. So the real question has become what kind of role will he have at all?

I'm not a pessimist when it comes to this movie; there are a lot of exciting aspects of it, but Cyke's possible death is very troubling. The hesitation that the topic is approached with lends me to believe one of two scenarios:

1. Cyclops dies. Period.

2. Cyclops "dies" and returns for the film's climax, as one of the movie's shocker moments.

I'm really hoping for #2. That, on top of Beast, Angel, Sentinels, all the other things this one has going for it, would really tip the scales for this movie being a true classic.

[XCharlieX]

I think its realistic for someone from the x men to die sooner or later since the brotherhood lost some before. As long as the persons characterization is taken care of before it occurs. But this is all rumor if its this particular character.

[xwolverine2]

I think its realistic for someone from the x men to die sooner or later since the brotherhood lost some before. As long as the persons characterization is taken care of before it occurs. But this is all rumor if its this particular character.
true......its only fair that some x-men die after killing some brotherhood/badguys.:)

[WorthyStevens]

Hi, everyone. Longtime lurker, firsttime poster.

This is a topic that's of great concern to me, as Cyclops is one of my favorite X-Men. I was hoping for him to have a hefty role in this one due to the nature of the story, but that seems out of the question now. So the real question has become what kind of role will he have at all?

I'm not a pessimist when it comes to this movie; there are a lot of exciting aspects of it, but Cyke's possible death is very troubling. The hesitation that the topic is approached with lends me to believe one of two scenarios:

1. Cyclops dies. Period.

2. Cyclops "dies" and returns for the film's climax, as one of the movie's shocker moments.

I'm really hoping for #2. That, on top of Beast, Angel, Sentinels, all the other things this one has going for it, would really tip the scales for this movie being a true classic.

My guess is #2.

[xwolverine2]

hopefully if it IS #2.......hes not TOO heroic...

the audience would be like"who.....the f***...is this guy?"


lol

[peteapan]

Cyclops was alive at the end of those 2 movies, am I right? That's consistency.[/QUOTE]

He is refering to consitency in terms of the characters screen time and relationships built up in the first two films, thus Cyclops relationships will take a back seat to Logans. He clearly didnt mean consistency over who lives and who dies.