Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[peteapan]

hopefully if it IS #2.......hes not TOO heroic...

the audience would be like"who.....the f***...is this guy?"


lol

I agree I think its unrealistic for people to think he will come back and blow everything away on the battle field, as much as I personally would like that, he hasnt got the popularity or back story for the general movie goer to particularly wanna see this, unlike if it was wolverine in the same scenario. However I dont think its too much to ask to see the team leader get on the battle field at the end, sort out and take charge of the xmen get them fighting as a team. Something we havent really seen in these films

[Wolverini]

Would be good to see Cyks owning Juggs and Magneto with an optic blast and then getting the **** kicked out of him by Multiple Man ;)

[xwolverine2]

I agree I think its unrealistic for people to think he will come back and blow everything away on the battle field, as much as I personally would like that, he hasnt got the popularity or back story for the general movie goer to particularly wanna see this, unlike if it was wolverine in the same scenario. However I dont think its too much to ask to see the team leader get on the battle field at the end, sort out and take charge of the xmen get them fighting as a team. Something we havent really seen in these films
who the hell is he to lead the x-men out of nowhere?....lol

[Kanon]

Would be good to see Cyks owning Juggs and Magneto with an optic blast and then getting the **** kicked out of him by Multiple Man ;)
I would love to see Ciclops shotting at Juggernaut and Juggs heading down, just keep going at him, just a little delayed...
Seems that's not gonna happen :(

[xwolverine2]

I would love to see Ciclops shotting at Juggernaut and Juggs heading down, just keep going at him, just a little delayed...
Seems that's not gonna happen :(
wasnt there stpry boards like that?:confused:

[Kanon]

wasnt there stpry boards like that?:confused:
Haven't seen anything like that, but if they are, it could be confirmation that Cykes doesn't die at the lake. Bah, it seems like the X-Men first fight Juggernaut at Jean's house

[xwolverine2]

Haven't seen anything like that, but if they are, it could be confirmation that Cykes doesn't die at the lake. Bah, it seems like the X-Men first fight Juggernaut at Jean's house
no it doesnt fonfirm anything.....those story boards are older than hell:(

[Downhere]

I would love to see Cyke have a little fight with juggs...spray him with his optic blasts!

[Kanon]

no it doesnt fonfirm anything.....those story boards are older than hell:(
No older than the AICN review, and it seems pretty accurate so far... And that review is the stronger source suggesting Mr Summers dies... Go find the storyboards, and we can have some peace (at least untul the movie opens and Cyke dies :) )

[xwolverine2]

No older than the AICN review, and it seems pretty accurate so far... And that review is the stronger source suggesting Mr Summers dies... Go find the storyboards, and we can have some peace (at least untul the movie opens and Cyke dies :) )
not really i think they are WAY older.....ill do some searching:up: :)

[xwolverine2]

yes they ARE OLD AS S***...look at cyks glasses!:(

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/213/cykjug3lg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Downhere]

The way they drew cykes visor doesn't really mean it's old, even though it probably is. lol.

[WorthyStevens]

It looks like the Danger Room in that storyboard.

[peteapan]

who the hell is he to lead the x-men out of nowhere?....lol

Their leader perhaps...

[xwolverine2]

It looks like the Danger Room in that storyboard.
yeah i totaly noticed that too.....but there old.

cyclops glasses...juggs costume...

all signs point to no

[Downhere]

How can you tell worthystevens?

[xwolverine2]

How can you tell worthystevens?
the buildings are all destroyed like in the teaser...;)

[N_z0]

When you wre asked about Scotts importance in the Dark Phoenix storyline, you said the expect some deviations. This worries me. This suggests that, not only are you going to downplay cyclops' role in the story, but also that the focus would shift from scott and jean to logan and jean. is that the case? If so, than thats blasphemous, IMO. The focal part of the phoenix saga was the love between scott and jean. if you change that, you ruin part of the story.

* Many things have changed on the way from comic to movie. In addition, you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have. I understand your concerns, but the reality of writing a film script is extremely circumscribed, particularly compared to the comic books. I hope you will keep an open mind until you see the film. Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.


Another bad sign...:(

Predictable. Still doesn't make it right. :(

[Kurosawa]

When you wre asked about Scotts importance in the Dark Phoenix storyline, you said the expect some deviations. This worries me. This suggests that, not only are you going to downplay cyclops' role in the story, but also that the focus would shift from scott and jean to logan and jean. is that the case? If so, than thats blasphemous, IMO. The focal part of the phoenix saga was the love between scott and jean. if you change that, you ruin part of the story.

* Many things have changed on the way from comic to movie. In addition, you have to keep in mind that Simon and I do not control the franchise or the actors or the studio. To a certain extent, we have to do the best we can with the pieces we have. I understand your concerns, but the reality of writing a film script is extremely circumscribed, particularly compared to the comic books. I hope you will keep an open mind until you see the film. Keep in mind, by the way, that the film is consistent with X1 and X2.


Another bad sign...:(

That's everything but confirmation that Cyke is dying. Pure crap. I will never see this movie.

They can all go straight to hell.

[xwolverine2]

That's everything but confirmation that Cyke is dying. Pure crap. I will never see this movie.

They can all go straight to hell.
:eek: :down :eek:

[WorthyStevens]

That's everything but confirmation that Cyke is dying. Pure crap. I will never see this movie.

They can all go straight to hell.

DID YOU SEE THE WORDS 'SCOTT WILL DEFINITELY DIE IN THIS MOVIE' ANYWHERE IN THAT STATEMENT? IF NOT, THEN HOW THE HELL IS THERE ANY CONFIRMATION SLIM DIES IN THERE?!?!?!? :mad:

Honestly. Don't see this movie if you don't want to. And I'm getting real damn sick of people turning all of Zak/Simon's words into 'Cyclops will die! Cyclops will die'!

Every ****ing time we get good news about Slim, some people have to ***** and moan, and turn it into doom. Well guess what? WE ALL KNOW SQUAT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO CYCLOPS! SQUAT! It's your own right to have your own opinion, I don't care, but your bringing other people down. And this forum has been alot more positive as of late, which I LOVE. The only thread I've seen that is full of doom and gloom is THIS ONE.

****ing honestly.

:rolleyes:

[xwolverine2]

i cant BELIEVE people arent (he isnt) seeing the movie just because of internet rant.........???

[Storm22]

His loss!

[spark627]

That's everything but confirmation that Cyke is dying. Pure crap. I will never see this movie.

They can all go straight to hell.


wow. you need to get laid or something. you're a real freakin' loser.

no one has seen the movie... it's not even done. a REAL trailer hasn't been realized, but you know the outcome? :o :down

[N_z0]

DID YOU SEE THE WORDS 'SCOTT WILL DEFINITELY DIE IN THIS MOVIE' ANYWHERE IN THAT STATEMENT? IF NOT, THEN HOW THE HELL IS THERE ANY CONFIRMATION SLIM DIES IN THERE?!?!?!? :mad:

He actually said That's everything but confirmation that Cyke is dying.

This doesn't need explanation but here i go: If it did have those words "Scott will definitely die in this movie." then he would have said 'That's confirmation that Cyke is dying." which kurosawa didn't.

Everyone (on both sides of the argument) needs to calm down! :o

[Lightning Strykez!]

Everyone (on both sides of the argument) needs to calm down! :o

Agreed.

Please keep it civil in here and respect eachother's opinions. If that can't be done, I will temporarily lock this thread up until people get a grip and cool off.

[WorthyStevens]

I apologize. I'm usually able to keep myself level-headed, but I Kurosawa's last comment got me livid. I'm sick of hearing people twist Simon's words into meaning death for Cyclops. :(

I'm fine with people having a different opinion than my own, but it just seems that some people always prefer to look at the downside of Cyclops' possible fate. :O

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm fine with people having a different opinion than my own, but it just seems that some people always prefer to look at the downside of Cyclops' possible fate. :O

Let them. :o:up:

[Latin_Princess1]

U Pplz Just Dont Get It! If He Dies He Dies If He Doesnt Then He Doesnt!!! Geez Let It Go Already!!! Just Wait Until The Movie Comes Then You Will Find Out If He Dies! It Goes For Both Side If U Say He Does Or Doesnt Die U Dont Show Squat! I Mean U Can Have Ur Own Opinion But Dont Be Sayin "oh He Is Def. Goin To Die" Or "he Is Def. Not Goin To Die" If U Dont Have Proof! Geez

[SlimDayspring]

Would be good to see Cyks owning Juggs and Magneto with an optic blast and then getting the **** kicked out of him by Multiple Man ;)
I'd like to see a scene when Scott goes to leave the mansion and Logan tries to stop him, so he blasts him through a wall, just to show him who's boss (like the way Cyke put him down in Ultimate X-Men).

[Obsidian]

I'd like to see a scene when Scott goes to leave the mansion and Logan tries to stop him, so he blasts him through a wall, just to show him who's boss (like the way Cyke put him down in Ultimate X-Men).

Cyclops should just wipe out the entire Brotherhood by taking off his glasses/visor and letting the bad buys get a taste of pure, concussive energy.

[WorthyStevens]

Cyclops should just wipe out the entire Brotherhood by taking off his glasses/visor and letting the bad buys get a taste of pure, concussive energy.

I would love that so much. :up:

[Sketchee]

I think they should tell us if Cyclops dies or not now so we can form an opinion on what happens in the movie out of context. Or just tell us the whole plot so we can decide on it as written before seeing it on the screen. Afterall, the point of a movie is to read it and imagine how good or bad it will look.

[WorthyStevens]

I think they should tell us if Cyclops dies or not now so we can form an opinion on what happens in the movie out of context. Or just tell us the whole plot so we can decide on it as written before seeing it on the screen. Afterall, the point of a movie is to read it and imagine how good or bad it will look.

I very much doubt that'll happen.

[jusblaze21]

I'd like to see a scene when Scott goes to leave the mansion and Logan tries to stop him, so he blasts him through a wall, just to show him who's boss (like the way Cyke put him down in Ultimate X-Men).

That would be awesome, But I think because wolvies the Poster Boy, especially in the movies, that won't happen.:(

[Sketchee]

I very much doubt that'll happen.

I really hope it doesn't, but it almost sounds like that's what people want for some reason!

[Eros]

Obsidian wanted you suggested is boarding on [small]genocide of his own race, and is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

[Supreme Power]

I'd like to see a scene when Scott goes to leave the mansion and Logan tries to stop him, so he blasts him through a wall, just to show him who's boss (like the way Cyke put him down in Ultimate X-Men).

I'm a wolverine fan also, but I admit that would be awesome. :) :up:

[Obsidian]

Obsidian wanted you suggested is boarding on [small]genocide of his own race, and is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

ummm......what?:confused:

[Spider-jedi]

i've read most of the posts and i agree cyclops in the x-men movies is more like just a member and not its true leader.but i heard he has a small role in x-men3 which really burns me up

[vanillacyke]

Obsidian wanted you suggested is boarding on [small]genocide of his own race, and is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

What the hell is this supposed to mean?

[Kanon]

Afterall, the point of a movie is to read it and imagine how good or bad it will look.
:confused: Thats the point of a movie?

[peteapan]

Just noticed that the pics we have seen of cyclops so far have all been in leather jackets, however there are shots of him in two different ones, one has the stripe down it, as seen in the trailer, and the other looks more of an unzipped X jacket as seen in the countingdown.com gallery. Gives me more hope he isnt just a small bit part player in this one. Also I hope that they improve on his beam when he rips away his glasses in the trailer. I always imagine an unbelievable blast of raw power when visorless, but from the looks of the trailer it isnt much more powerful than usual.

[The Batman]

DID YOU SEE THE WORDS 'SCOTT WILL DEFINITELY DIE IN THIS MOVIE' ANYWHERE IN THAT STATEMENT? IF NOT, THEN HOW THE HELL IS THERE ANY CONFIRMATION SLIM DIES IN THERE?!?!?!? :mad:

Honestly. Don't see this movie if you don't want to. And I'm getting real damn sick of people turning all of Zak/Simon's words into 'Cyclops will die! Cyclops will die'!

Every ****ing time we get good news about Slim, some people have to ***** and moan, and turn it into doom. Well guess what? WE ALL KNOW SQUAT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO CYCLOPS! SQUAT! It's your own right to have your own opinion, I don't care, but your bringing other people down. And this forum has been alot more positive as of late, which I LOVE. The only thread I've seen that is full of doom and gloom is THIS ONE.

****ing honestly.

:rolleyes:


quite pathetic you're having a meltdown because people have a differing opinion from yours. whether you like it or not, there are people gravitating to the idea that scott may die. deal with it

[Hugh'sMrs]

Just noticed that the pics we have seen of cyclops so far have all been in leather jackets, however there are shots of him in two different ones, one has the stripe down it, as seen in the trailer, and the other looks more of an unzipped X jacket as seen in the countingdown.com gallery. Gives me more hope he isnt just a small bit part player in this one. Also I hope that they improve on his beam when he rips away his glasses in the trailer. I always imagine an unbelievable blast of raw power when visorless, but from the looks of the trailer it isnt much more powerful than usual.

The photo in the Countingdown.com gallery is the fan manip of the jacket with the red and yellow stripe that he wears at Alkali Lake.

[peteapan]

The photo in the Countingdown.com gallery is the fan manip of the jacket with the red and yellow stripe that he wears at Alkali Lake.

boo :down :(

[WorthyStevens]

quite pathetic you're having a meltdown because people have a differing opinion from yours. whether you like it or not, there are people gravitating to the idea that scott may die. deal with it

No, I had a 'meltdown' because of the way he presented his opinion. :o

Big difference.

Read my posts after that.

[SlimDayspring]

Just noticed that the pics we have seen of cyclops so far have all been in leather jackets, however there are shots of him in two different ones, one has the stripe down it, as seen in the trailer, and the other looks more of an unzipped X jacket as seen in the countingdown.com gallery.
Are you talking about this one?

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/2756437/1011/3828365_main.jpg

This is a manip done by someone here on SHH. (Apologies, but I can't remember exactly who.)

[Kurosawa]

wow. you need to get laid or something. you're a real freakin' loser.

no one has seen the movie... it's not even done. a REAL trailer hasn't been realized, but you know the outcome? :o :down

Nice.

[peteapan]

Are you talking about this one?

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/2756437/1011/3828365_main.jpg

This is a manip done by someone here on SHH. (Apologies, but I can't remember exactly who.)

yeh that was it. ah well, ill have to wait till the next trailer to learn more about Cyke

[gap5ewl]

yeh that was it. ah well, ill have to wait till the next trailer to learn more about Cyke
that is a pic of cyclops from x3 though. it was from gina, the ony thing though is someone took the stripe out and made the whole jacket black

[Sketchee]

:confused: Thats the point of a movie?

I was being sarcastic. :)

[peteapan]

that is a pic of cyclops from x3 though. it was from gina, the ony thing though is someone took the stripe out and made the whole jacket black

I know but we have only seen Cyke in one outfit so far, so seeing him in a different leather jacket would have pointed to him being in more scenes.

[Spider-Nerd]

so does he die or what?

[PWN3R]

No one knows.....I think he goes to heaven and comes back with Jesus to kick Magneto's butt...

[peteapan]

No one knows.....I think he goes to heaven and comes back with Jesus to kick Magneto's butt...

Hehe Cyclops, Jesus and an angry Santa come back in the last third to kick all their asses.

Han Solo shot first.....

[vanillacyke]

Hell they've deviated so much from the comics that adding Jesus and Santa does'nt sound like too much of a stretch.

[peteapan]

Just read that empire article through properly. Quite annoying really. Mentions steamy scenes between Storm and Wolverine and how the film also focuses on Wolverine coming to terms with the death and rebirth of his love Jean. No mention of Cyke and jean.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Just read that empire article through properly. Quite annoying really. Mentions steamy scenes between Storm and Wolverine and how the film also focuses on Wolverine coming to terms with the death and rebirth of his love Jean. No mention of Cyke and jean.


"Steamy scenes"? Um, I didn't read that anywhere....so where did you read that? And it also never said the film focuses on Wolverine, but rather on the Cure.

If you're going to summarize something, please do so accurately.

[SlimDayspring]

Does Cyclops get any mention in the Empire article?

[Storm22]

The article mostly covers the set report.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Does Cyclops get any mention in the Empire article?


He has a photo with caption.

[_BB_]

posted this in the leech thread:

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0bq.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg

cyclops?
and it looks like thats halle on the left and magneto on the right

[Super Flight]

Good Find BB! Yup that is him for sure

[Aiden]

That's Cyke alright

[Essex]

Are you people serious? That is an eighth of a heavily shadowed face...

[Super Flight]

^^ all you got to do it Believe and cyclopse's face will shine for you

[kytrigger]

Are you people serious? That is an eighth of a heavily shadowed face...

It's about half of a face, and you can clearly see that he is wearing a visor like cykes.

[Essex]

It's about half of a face, and you can clearly see that he is wearing a visor like cykes.

No, you can clearly see that the overhead light is causing a heavy shadow under his brow and on the side of his face. Take note of the extremely bright light coming from the top right.

[Super Flight]

Maybe its just a paler Reading randow guy from star trek, who just came to vist the set,

[SlimDayspring]

I think it could be him...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/notanumber/Cyke5.jpg

[Super Flight]

Wher'd you get that picture slim! Now we know for sure its him! Great find! New Visor 2! WoW!

[JustABill]

My god. You people want Cykes to die...that's it...all his fans really want him to die. Everytime something positive that screams of his survival comes along. You all negate it. So I've come to the conclusion, you want to be right and want him to die.

[Iceman]

I think it could be him...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/notanumber/Cyke5.jpg

I see him!!

If you look just between the red pillow & the black umbrella thing - it's unmistakable

& he's smiling so he must have a good role

:up::up:

[PWN3R]

My god. You people want Cykes to die...that's it...all his fans really want him to die. Everytime something positive that screams of his survival comes along. You all negate it. So I've come to the conclusion, you want to be right and want him to die.


Seriously, first we get his new pic in Empire...now this. C'mon signs are pointing to him living! :cyclops:

And all people say is, "That pic is from X2" "Its just a shadow!" .....ok? :confused:

[The Guard]

This reminds me of that episode of THE SIMPSONS when the TV goes out.

"This is sick! They're staring at a dot!"

[PWN3R]

That IS Cykes...not a freakin shadow. A shadow like that would be impossible...:rolleyes:

[Kira]

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg


Right. :o

Well, then he must have one heck of a chrome dome forehead to create that much black shadow all the way around his face. I think someone may need to take a wee bit closer look.

*whistles*

CYCLOPS!

:eek:

Yay! :up: :)

[CapBeerCino]

My god. You people want Cykes to die...that's it...all his fans really want him to die. Everytime something positive that screams of his survival comes along. You all negate it. So I've come to the conclusion, you want to be right and want him to die.
:eek:
OMG he's on to us! Everybody run!

[MoiBijou]

C'mon, you can see even a bit of the rubi cristal... It's a Cyclops' poster. What's doing here? Who knows...

I don't say it's a proof of he'll be alive at the end of the movie, but what is sure is that's a Cyclops' poster. That's all.

(Whoa, my first post here... :eek:)

[astonishingcyke]

Ok I tend to think on the positive side in regards to cyclops almost all the time and i gotta say to believe that is cyclops is a bit of a stretch. Im not saying its not but... c'mon; lets just be patient and wait til something comes out that can actually hold water

[JustABill]

Moi, not you too. -snatches her in his arms and rushes her to hospital- You've come down with the sickness.

[CapBeerCino]

That IS Cykes...not a freakin shadow. A shadow like that would be impossible...:rolleyes:

Guess we'll never know.

[MoiBijou]

Moi, not you too. -snatches her in his arms and rushes her to hospital- You've come down with the sickness.

Mmm?

*touches her forehead*

No, I haven't got temperature... :D

My thoughts are that he'll be alive at the end of the movie, but there's such a lot of pessimism here that I'm afraid to say anything...

[JustABill]

Mmmhmm. Sure, you keep doing that, Essex.

[JustABill]

Mmm?

*touches her forehead*

No, I haven't got temperature... :D

My thoughts are that he'll be alive at the end of the movie, but there's such a lot of pessimism here that I'm afraid to say anything...

A Temperature isn't a side effect of CYCLOPSFANSUNITEDTONEGATEHISSURVIALITIS. You idjit. :p

[CapBeerCino]

A Temperature isn't a side effect of CYCLOPSFANSUNITEDTONEGATEHISSURVIALITIS. You idjit. :p

You actually made me try and factorize it into words :mad: :O

[MoiBijou]

A Temperature isn't a side effect of CYCLOPSFANSUNITEDTONEGATEHISSURVIALITIS. You idjit. :p

Ah, I think I'm immune to that... I don't like Cyclops at all, but at least I respect him as a leader.. and I think he'll survive.

Am I cured, doctor? :p

[JustABill]

Yes, I do believe Dr. Kavita Rao has ''cured" you.




Geez, I'm so lame. :rolleyes:

[MoiBijou]

Yes, I do believe Dr. Kavita Rao has ''cured" you.




Geez, I'm so lame. :rolleyes:

Now I was proud of being the 199th mutant not affected by the House of M... :( :D

[JustABill]

BAHHHH! SCREW WANDA MAXIMOFF! I HATE HER...DIE SCARLET WITCH DIE. DEPOWERED CHAMBER. DEPOWERED JUBILEE. DEPOWERED MARROW. DEPOWERED MAGNETO. BLAH BLAH.

That's what I think of House of M. :O

[MoiBijou]

BAHHHH! SCREW WANDA MAXIMOFF! I HATE HER...DIE SCARLET WITCH DIE. DEPOWERED CHAMBER. DEPOWERED JUBILEE. DEPOWERED MARROW. DEPOWERED MAGNETO. BLAH BLAH.

That's what I think of House of M. :O

The same I think about it... it was just a cheap way of getting rid of many mutants. My poor Jono... :(

[The Guard]

That dot does look a bit like Cyclops...

[PWN3R]

Ouch....

[peteapan]

I am prob one of the nay sayers in regards to cyke but this latest pic has given me real hope. Thats defo not just a shadow over his brow, and if it is poor dude... yay a real positive sign

[JustABill]

If that really is some random guy. Damn, at that the uni-brow.

[HughJackFan420]

^^ all you got to do it Believe and cyclopse's face will shine for you

i believe i believe

lol that was funny man:)

[HughJackFan420]

thats cyke or a guy with a real bad unibrow

[lordofthenerds]

That is definently Cyke. He may live after all...Fox is really screwing with our minds...

[HughJackFan420]

well i don't think that this pic signifies that Cyclops will live. but it does give me a little hope.

[Angamb]

sorry, but isn't Cyclops in the Cameron pic

[JustABill]

It's Cyclops....you can see the person is wearing black....you can see the visor.

[PWN3R]

sorry, but isn't Cyclops in the Cameron pic

What makes you say that?

[Angamb]

I really hope Cyclops don't die and have a decent role, but this doen't look like Cyclops or his visor...

[PWN3R]

I really hope Cyclops don't die and have a decent role, but this doen't look like Cyclops or his visor...

Again...what makes you say that?

It clearly looks like his visor to me..

[S7ilver]

That's obviously Cyclops, and I'm guessing you should get your eyes checked if you can't see the likeness, that or dare to have an open mind, whichever.

GAWD

[PWN3R]

That's obviously Cyclops, and I'm guessing you should get your eyes checked if you can't see the likeness, that or dare to have an open mind, whichever.

GAWD

No need to be rude. It could be anything, maybe even a boat....but clearly resembles Cykes....:up:

[S7ilver]

I didn't mean to be rude..

Uh, I luv Cyke? =P

[Storm22]

Hmmmm, I really think that looks like Cyclops alright. Is his head that small cos he's far away though?? There is hope we'll get to see him in his visor and, by the looks of things, his X uniform!

[Kurosawa]

It looks like him. Of course the background IS distorted...but hopefully, that's a good sign.

[JustABill]

Wow, Kurosawa. I'm suprised by you....I'm seriously suprised...I thought you'd be one of ''That's definitely a shadow" people. Color me pleasantly suprised.

[Jan Irisi]

It looks like him. Of course the background IS distorted...but hopefully, that's a good sign.

But for whatever reason, that particular section is not distorted. Cool if they in fact missed that part, and it is him. Oopsie!!!!

[PWN3R]

But for whatever reason, that particular section is not distorted. Cool if they in fact missed that part, and it is him. Oopsie!!!!


They left him there just for Kurosawa! ;)

[JustABill]

Moderator at Cam Fans: -doesn't distort Cykes- Oh well, his fans need the break.

[Kurosawa]

Wow, Kurosawa. I'm suprised by you....I'm seriously suprised...I thought you'd be one of ''That's definitely a shadow" people. Color me pleasantly suprised.

I'm hoping for the best...I don't want them to kill off Cyke, and I want to be able to enjoy the movie. I know they won't take it word for word from the comics, but I would like the Dark Phoenix storyline to be at least close. I think it's the greatest X-Men story ever, and maybe the greatest comics story ever.

[JustABill]

There's nothing I wouldn't give to have Cyclops be the one to sooth Jean's crazy ass at the end of the film myself.

[tonytr1687]

That picture could be Cyclops or it could not. There's really nothing "clear as day" about it since its an image magnified from such a far distance. Its like when you think you're looking at a beautiful woman from a distance and then you get close up and its an old lady or something.

[WorthyStevens]

posted this in the leech thread:

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0bq.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg

cyclops?
and it looks like thats halle on the left and magneto on the right

:eek:

While that's not a definite on him being Cyclops, it looks alot like him. :up:

[HughJackFan420]

There's nothing I wouldn't give to have Cyclops be the one to sooth Jean's crazy ass at the end of the film myself.

yeah maybe he beats it up and bangs the phoenix out of her...(sorry i can't use the b-word SHH policy)

[Downhere]

yeah maybe he beats it up and bangs the phoenix out of her...(sorry i can't use the b-word SHH policy)

Bangs the Phoenix out of her? :confused: LOL. That's one way to do it I guess.

[WorthyStevens]

Here's my theory:

If the forest scene in the trailer takes place after the bridge scene, I'm more confident in the fact that Scott may have a hand, physically, in the final act.

Disclaimer: My theory only works if the forest scene takes place before the bridge scene.

Remember the scene in which Magneto has some kind of magnetic hold on Wolverine, and is holding him in midair? I presume Jean is also in that scene, but she's not in that exact shot. Well, wouldn't it be plausible that watching Magneto hurting Logan would snap Jean out of her Dark Phoenix persona (considering her 'closeness' to him in the previous movies), and attack Magneto? But it doesn't look like she will. She's clearly seen standing next to Magneto on the bridge.

Now, if seeing Logan get hurt won't snap Jean back into her former self, it's very unlikely anyone else could snap her out of it, except for...

Scott.

[Storm22]

I'm really trying to think what else it could be though. How did others think it was shadow on a brow or something??

[Lightning Strykez!]

yeah maybe he beats it up and bangs the phoenix out of her...(sorry i can't use the b-word SHH policy)

*shakes head*

That was...creative. LOL :p:up:

[HughJackFan420]

its nothing else....

ITS CYCLOPS

[HughJackFan420]

*shakes head*

That was...creative. LOL :p:up:

hey i promised i won't cuss :up: :)

[Hugh'sMrs]

It doesn't look in proportion to everyone else in that scene which is why I think it's just a photo of Cyclops pinned on the wall.

[X.M.D.]

For sure its Cykes!

Woosh...so...Im not crazy, after all! I was beggining to think I was " seeing" things when i posted the very same thing on my website! (http://xmd2.blogspot.com)

At least ..theres someone who shares my point of view.

Thats cool...and LordOftheNerds is right: Fox is trying to play tricks on us!

[Storm22]

I want to believe it's Cyclops. I can't fathom why they'd have a photo of him on the wall! The reason he's out of proportion could be because of the material on the wall, or he could be standing far back. I really dunno what to believe though

[Downhere]

*shakes head*

That was...creative. LOL :p:up:

Indeed it was, it gave me a really disturbing picture in my mind. lol.

[kookevin3]

hello

[Lightning Strykez!]

hello


Greetings. :cool:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Indeed it was, it gave me a really disturbing picture in my mind. lol.


And what are you thinking about mister? :p

[Downhere]

And what are you thinking about mister? :p

It's a secret...lol.

[tonytr1687]

Here's my theory:

If the forest scene in the trailer takes place after the bridge scene, I'm more confident in the fact that Scott may have a hand, physically, in the final act.

Disclaimer: My theory only works if the forest scene takes place before the bridge scene.

Remember the scene in which Magneto has some kind of magnetic hold on Wolverine, and is holding him in midair? I presume Jean is also in that scene, but she's not in that exact shot. Well, wouldn't it be plausible that watching Magneto hurting Logan would snap Jean out of her Dark Phoenix persona (considering her 'closeness' to him in the previous movies), and attack Magneto? But it doesn't look like she will. She's clearly seen standing next to Magneto on the bridge.

Now, if seeing Logan get hurt won't snap Jean back into her former self, it's very unlikely anyone else could snap her out of it, except for...

Scott.

I dunno...its looking more and more like the GG bridge/Alcatraz scene is the climax. And really it should be since its such a big sequence with lots of destruction and whatnot.

[WorthyStevens]

I dunno...its looking more and more like the GG bridge/Alcatraz scene is the climax. And really it should be since its such a big sequence with lots of destruction and whatnot.

I'm with you about the GGB scene being the climax.

Someone's gonna need to bring Jean back... and it sounds like it ain't gonna be Logan.

[NocturnalMadman]

I don't think this changes anything...yet

I mean Leech isn't even in the scene if Cameron is "directing".

You know, staring at the pic its looking more like glasses than a visor too...I think we need to be careful of seeing what we want to see and getting our hopes up

[peteapan]

Id love to think it was cyclops. Either way there is a very faint line above his head indicating it is a poster or photo on a wall rather than the real deal. Either way if it is him he is in a visor. Cant believe the official trailer is coming out so soon! Im sure that if he is alive to get uniformed up then it will be in this next trailer. If i dont see it in this one however my heart will sink a bit. This latest finding keeps me going till then!

[ironmaidenrules]

guys, i really donr think they are gonna kill him

i mean we've been *****ing and screaming ever since the script leak

they know its a bad idea

dont they? i mean come on....how dumb can fox be? they are having the trailer with 24=good
they are having iceman ice up=good
storm flies=good
i heard seteniels=thats good


why ruin the entire move by ****ing up 1 simple thing
i mean killing the leader? having him killed by his gf? they cant be that dumb

maybe the planned it, but then they read all this **** here so they called him back for reshoots.

i bet fox is just toying with us, scott may not be the star but he will kick ass

come on!!!! they know we want him, they have his time so they outta use it.

they just wanna surprise us...right?

GOD DAMNIT SOMEONE AGREE WITH ME


DONT KILL HIM
I SWEAR TO ANY GOD DONT U ****ERS KILL HIM!!!! PLEASE!!!!! WHY WOULD U DO SUCH A HORRIBLE THING!!! HE SHOULD BE THE MAIN CHARACTER!!! HE'S THE LEADER!!! **** LOGAN!!! KILL HIM!!! LET MAGS TEAR HIS SKELETON OUT!!! SCOTT HAS TO BE THERE TO SAVE JEAN FROM HERSELF!!!!

umm...sorry about that...so..yea..scott will live...i hope

[Lightning Strykez!]

I agree with you Ironmaidenrules.

And your signature is hilarious. :cool::up:

[ironmaidenrules]

I agree with you Ironmaidenrules.

And your signature is hilarious. :cool::up:
THANK YOU

and thanks for the sig complement

i'm just glad it all fit cause its just too funny

[CapBeerCino]

Id love to think it was cyclops. Either way there is a very faint line above his head indicating it is a poster or photo on a wall rather than the real deal. Either way if it is him he is in a visor. Cant believe the official trailer is coming out so soon! Im sure that if he is alive to get uniformed up then it will be in this next trailer. If i dont see it in this one however my heart will sink a bit. This latest finding keeps me going till then!

Hmmm... Hate to bust your bubble so soon, but Simon already said not to expect anything new about Cyke in the full trailer.
(Personally I don't want any new info until the movie comes out in less then 3 months, but just so you'll know)

[The Batman]

I have a feeling Logan will be the one to snap Jean out of her dark phoenix phase

[peteapan]

Hmmm... Hate to bust your bubble so soon, but Simon already said not to expect anything new about Cyke in the full trailer.
(Personally I don't want any new info until the movie comes out in less then 3 months, but just so you'll know)

Ah well. That may not be such a bad sign. I guess if it is really obvious they are trying to hold back on the cyclops material then it shows he may be involved in a shock in the film. Im hoping this is his return rather than just his death. I agree with the batman in that i am really fearing that Logan will be the one to save the day and calm Pheonix :(

[kytrigger]

I'm with you about the GGB scene being the climax.

Someone's gonna need to bring Jean back... and it sounds like it ain't gonna be Logan.

True, but it could also be the Professor...but hopefully it'll be Scott.

[peteapan]

True, but it could also be the Professor...but hopefully it'll be Scott.

Why are people so sure that the Prof will die?

[CapBeerCino]

Ah well. That may not be such a bad sign. I guess if it is really obvious they are trying to hold back on the cyclops material then it shows he may be involved in a shock in the film. Im hoping this is his return rather than just his death. I agree with the batman in that i am really fearing that Logan will be the one to save the day and calm Pheonix :(

I don't think it's much of a sign (of something we don't already know).
I saw it coming anyway. What else can they show you without spoil the top secrecy they created?

[peteapan]

I don't think it's much of a sign (of something we don't already know).
I saw it coming anyway. What else can they show you without spoil the top secrecy they created?

Yeh thats very true i guess. They show any more and the secrecy is gone so its gotta be less. Still excited for the trailer. With the details in to which people look at these trailers I am hoping for something positive to come out of it in regards to the Cyclops mystery, even though they wont explicitly show anymore of him

[Essex]

Hmmm... Hate to bust your bubble so soon, but Simon already said not to expect anything new about Cyke in the full trailer.
(Personally I don't want any new info until the movie comes out in less then 3 months, but just so you'll know)

I didn't think he actually said we wouldn't see more of Cyclops in the trailer, though. He just said he wouldn't be free to discuss Cyclops in greater detail after the trailer. Unless I'm missing a question that came after that one.

[CapBeerCino]

I didn't think he actually said we wouldn't see more of Cyclops in the trailer, though. He just said he wouldn't be free to discuss Cyclops in greater detail after the trailer. Unless I'm missing a question that came after that one.

You're not. But again what could they show us without spilling the beans?
An official x-3 Theatrical Trailer without Cyclops. Ouch.

[Retroman]

I think this is the image that's lurking in the background.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1508/x258hg.jpg

[Retroman]

Another subject (not sure if this has been covered). Do you guys think the movie will feature some form of flashback with a young Scott and young Jean at the school? To show the start of their relationship?

[Essex]

You're not. But again what could they show us without spilling the beans?

There are likely some scenes of distraught Cyclops mourning Jean that could fit in there. I'd be happy with just anything more than the one scene we saw.

[Lightning Strykez!]

There are likely some scenes of distraught Cyclops mourning Jean that could fit in there. I'd be happy with just anything more than the one scene we saw.


Agreed. Show us a scene of him elsewhere other than Alkali Lake. Because if they just show more of the same, it's not going to do much to dispel people's concerns.

[ironmaidenrules]

why would the effects guy talk about making cykes beams look cooler if he dies

he must use his beams more than once or else they wouldn't have wasted money

[ShadowBoxing]

There is a good chance that Cyclops dies is just some massive misdirection away from the REAL death...its a small chance, a very small chance, but a chance. Raimi and Co do this crap with SM3....so there is a possibility

[CapBeerCino]

why would the effects guy talk about making cykes beams look cooler if he dies

he must use his beams more than once or else they wouldn't have wasted money

Im not sure his beam cost them much. Red lights and the rest is done by computers.

[Storm22]

I think this is the image that's lurking in the background.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1508/x258hg.jpg

I was thinking the exact same thing Retroman, IF that is indeed an image in the background. Why would they have that image there though?? - to get fans hopes up only to be majorly let down if he doesn't appear in this scene in the movie?! The red on his visor in that Leech photo wasn't as bright as it is in this shot though.

[Retroman]

I was thinking the exact same thing Retroman, IF that is indeed an image in the background. Why would they have that image there though?? - to get fans hopes up only to be majorly let down if he doesn't appear in this scene in the movie?! The red on his visor in that Leech photo wasn't as bright as it is in this shot though.
Maybe this is Worthington Labs. Maybe they've got pictures of a few X-Men plastered over the walls? As crazy as it may sound....

[Storm22]

By the looks of things it's Magneto's lair though. Ah who know's, here's hoping we'll see more Cyclop's on Monday!

[SlimDayspring]

I think this is the image that's lurking in the background.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1508/x258hg.jpg
Let's compare...

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/notanumber/Cyke6.jpg


It's possible, but I don't think so.

[Retroman]

By the looks of things it's Magneto's lair though. Ah who know's, here's hoping we'll see more Cyclop's on Monday!
Amen to that:up:

[CapBeerCino]

Monday never seemed so far away.

[Maze]

Another subject (not sure if this has been covered). Do you guys think the movie will feature some form of flashback with a young Scott and young Jean at the school? To show the start of their relationship?

it would a great way to give some substance to their relashionship if he is going to die..

But could it fit in the movie with all the flashback and all?

[xwolverine2]

Monday never seemed so far away.
tell me about it..:( :( :( :( :down

[xwolverine2]

Let's compare...

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/notanumber/Cyke6.jpg


It's possible, but I don't think so.
:eek: i NEVER SAW THAT!

omg is that really cyclops?!:eek:

[JustABill]

It's Cyclops guys. That's James off camera, perhaps in a doorway...looking down ready to confront someone. It just has to be. Their is like no similarities in that image and the thing in the background. The face is at a different angle and much much more.

[xwolverine2]

what would cyclops be doing there.....

.....and does anyone know if thats magneto there?

[WorthyStevens]

Let's compare...

http://i2.tinypic.com/orr0j7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/notanumber/Cyke6.jpg


It's possible, but I don't think so.

Compare the hair in each photo.

In the second photo, a few strands of Scott's hair is hanging in front of him. Now, take a look at the first photo again. There maybe a slight strand of hair in front of his face, but not as much as in the second photo.

And also, in the first photo, notice how Scott has something white on whatever he's wearing, right next to his cheek.

Look at the second photo. Nothing white next to his cheek.

[Storm22]

what would cyclops be doing there.....

.....and does anyone know if thats magneto there?

From the looks of the whole photo Magneto is on one side of Cyclops and Storm is on the other.

[xwolverine2]

From the looks of the whole photo Magneto is on one side of Cyclops and Storm is on the other.
storm?????....where?????
:confused:

[Storm22]

Have you seen the zoomed out version of that pic? There's a figure on Cyclop's left, wearing black with short white/grey Storm-like hair facing Magneto, behind Cameron's director seat. I'm pretty sure it's in that pic.

[the_scream]

Come on guys. You're really clutching at straws now. Why would we need a magnifying glass to see a character who is about to appear in a movie in a few weeks? If he was in the film more, we'd know it by now. And, no, Marsden isn't that important that they would keep it a BIG secret. Sounds a whole lot like crazy conspiracy theories to me when the beeding obvious is staring at you right in the face: He dies early in the film. Period.

[JustABill]

:rolleyes: Good old Scream, pessimistic and annoying as ever.

[Storm22]

:rolleyes: Yeah and you have such solid proof of that now don't you! We're SPECULATING that that is indeed Cyclops in that shot which is all anyone, even you, can do at this point!

[WorthyStevens]

Come on guys. You're really clutching at straws now. Why would we need a magnifying glass to see a character who is about to appear in a movie in a few weeks? If he was in the film more, we'd know it by now. And, no, Marsden isn't that important that they would keep it a BIG secret. Sounds a whole lot like crazy conspiracy theories to me when the beeding obvious is staring at you right in the face: He dies early in the film. Period.

Dude, seriously.

If it's that obvious, why did Cyclops get his own promotional photo alongside Rogue and Storm in Empire magazine?

Honestly. Stop.

[the_scream]

:rolleyes: Good old Scream, pessimistic and annoying as ever.

I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks. Sorry for being annoying.

Last night, I had a dream that Cyclops was leading a mission in the danger room. It was pretty awesome. Cykes was the true leader and was quite clever, avoiding getting taken out while the larger, clumsier X-Men were falling behind. It demonstrated how he was a great leader and fighter. IF something like this happened in the opening scenes, I wouldn't mind if he died. But I want to actually see him as a great leader/fighter otherwise his death has no meaning.

[PWN3R]

Come on guys. You're really clutching at straws now. Why would we need a magnifying glass to see a character who is about to appear in a movie in a few weeks? If he was in the film more, we'd know it by now. And, no, Marsden isn't that important that they would keep it a BIG secret. Sounds a whole lot like crazy conspiracy theories to me when the beeding obvious is staring at you right in the face: He dies early in the film. Period.


I guess thats your opinion. :cool:

BUT HELLO, X3 is borrowing from the Phoenix saga, and in pretty much all the story arcs on it, Cykes plays an important part.

They may have changed this yes, BUT this pic and the pic from Empire are indeed signs that Cykes may have a bigger role than what we are expecting from all these silly rumors....thats right silly. :up:

[peteapan]

why would the effects guy talk about making cykes beams look cooler if he dies

he must use his beams more than once or else they wouldn't have wasted money

I think maybe this change is coming about because the only scene he uses his blast is when he rips off the glasses. without the visor for control they would have to make the beams look more random and powerful. just a thought

[WorthyStevens]

I think maybe this change is coming about because the only scene he uses his blast is when he rips off the glasses. without the visor for control they would have to make the beams look more random and powerful. just a thought

What's the point of perfecting his rays he shoots them in only one scene?

[peteapan]

What's the point of perfecting his rays he shoots them in only one scene?

Well i dont think he said they were perfecting them, just making them look more realistic and less visceral. Indicates they arent using the straight beams that the visor allows. If he only shoots them in that one scene then i think they would still want it to look as powerful and effective as possible

[the Firestarter]

nice find with the cyclops pic. i think that's him. hope that's not photoshopped.

[Aiden]

I think maybe this change is coming about because the only scene he uses his blast is when he rips off the glasses. without the visor for control they would have to make the beams look more random and powerful. just a thought
The only scene in the teaser, not the movie.

Worthy, Its Empire

[peteapan]

The only scene in the teaser, not the movie.

Worthy, Its Empire

Hopefully! :up:

[WorthyStevens]

The only scene in the teaser, not the movie.

Worthy, Its Empire

Aah. That's right. Thanks :)

[SublimeDelusion]

Well, first post of mine in the thread, although I have been reading it for a while. I'm pretty much on the fence when it comes to a decision on if I think he'll live or not. Is there some concrete evidence he won't?... yes... Is there evidence that he will? There's some implied evidence here and there... Do I want cyclops to live? yes. Will it suck if he dies? also yes. From what I've seen and worked through in thinking, I think they have a few options as to how to handle the phoenix thing without cyclops. Sadly, all of them seem plausible, but in my opinion are a lot less interesting than something closer to the original dark phoenix saga. The one newer image with everything blurred seems to have him in the background. And if it is him, judging by the positioning, it looks like he'd be about to come into that room, IF it is him. Might even be a shot through a window in a door or something to give it that frame-like look around it. Seeing a lot of these images so far seems to give me a bit of hope that he'll survive. As for the trailer, I'm pretty sure that when he's at the lake in the AICN script, he doesn't even fight. At the lake you just see him looking all upset and screaming.. In someone's avatar here, there's the image of him blasting someone in a forest. And the same image seems to be on the X3 site somewhere. Now, if he's in some kind of battle in the forest, and from what i've picked up here, there's some allusion to wolverine and storm being in one too. Also, one of the earlier publicity shots showed magneto and some of his brotherhood from X3 in the forest. My point is, what I could gather in the background from the one cyclops blasting scene is that it looks a lot like the background for the magneto and his brotherhood shot. Not sure where that falls at all. Just something I thought I'd mention.

And with all of that said, I do admit that it doesn't look bright for cyclops. Although, I do hope that he winds up pulling through somehow and coming back to show his worth in the end.

[PWN3R]

Welcome to the Hype!

[Maze]

. In someone's avatar here, there's the image of him blasting someone in a forest.

Good first post imo, i agree with it..:)

about that avatar, interesting.. can you remember from who it is?

welcome to the hype:) :up:

[Phoenix_Rising]

That's not Cyclops blasting someone in a forest, it's the shot from the trailer of him blasting Alkali Lake, maybe it's trees you see in the background but definitely no new footage of Cyclops yet :(

[The Guard]

What are Cyclops' ruby quartz sunglasses made out of? Some kind of metal, perhaps?

What if Magneto confronts him, kidnaps him, does something to him, that makes it appear as if he has disappeared, and uses this to twist Jean's mind (Remember early storyboards that had Juggernaut VS. Cyclops)? He must see something posing an immediate threat in that shot when he rips off his visor...Juggernaut, perhaps? That would explain the "floating" visor Wolverine finds. It would also explain who Cyclops is blasting at so urgently in the teaser.

[gap5ewl]

What are Cyclops' ruby quartz sunglasses made out of? Some kind of metal, perhaps?

What if Magneto confronts him, kidnaps him, does something to him, that makes it appear as if he has disappeared, and uses this to twist Jean's mind (Remember early storyboards that had Juggernaut VS. Cyclops)? That would explain the "floating" visor Wolverine finds. It would also explain who Cyclops is blasting at so urgently in the teaser.
you already answered your question ;)

[WorthyStevens]

What are Cyclops' ruby quartz sunglasses made out of? Some kind of metal, perhaps?

What if Magneto confronts him, kidnaps him, does something to him, that makes it appear as if he has disappeared, and uses this to twist Jean's mind (Remember early storyboards that had Juggernaut VS. Cyclops)? That would explain the "floating" visor Wolverine finds. It would also explain who Cyclops is blasting at so urgently in the teaser.

I like that. Although that would mean Mags recruits Juggs and MM before her resurrection.

It could also explain how Jean will turn on Magneto in the end. She'll find out Erik manipulated her into thinking she killed Scott.

[Retroman]

it would a great way to give some substance to their relashionship if he is going to die..

But could it fit in the movie with all the flashback and all?
It could depending on how it's done and how long it is. I can imagine scenes when Jean is in a coma where her whole life flashes by. Those first moments with Scott, Storm, Xavier etc. Just quick flashes.

[Maze]

What are Cyclops' ruby quartz sunglasses made out of? Some kind of metal, perhaps?

What if Magneto confronts him, kidnaps him, does something to him, that makes it appear as if he has disappeared, and uses this to twist Jean's mind (Remember early storyboards that had Juggernaut VS. Cyclops)? He must see something posing an immediate threat in that shot when he rips off his visor...Juggernaut, perhaps? That would explain the "floating" visor Wolverine finds. It would also explain who Cyclops is blasting at so urgently in the teaser.

your idea could really be what the filmmakers have in mind and would be really nice and , if we hadn't already seen something along this line in X2..

That's why if i had to choose , i would prefer for him to die ..i've already said it ,it's beginning to look like a running gag imo.

[Maze]

It could depending on how it's done and how long it is. I can imagine scenes when Jean is in a coma where her whole life flashes by. Those first moments with Scott, Storm, Xavier etc. Just quick flashes.

great idea :):up:

[peteapan]

What are Cyclops' ruby quartz sunglasses made out of? Some kind of metal, perhaps?

What if Magneto confronts him, kidnaps him, does something to him, that makes it appear as if he has disappeared, and uses this to twist Jean's mind (Remember early storyboards that had Juggernaut VS. Cyclops)? He must see something posing an immediate threat in that shot when he rips off his visor...Juggernaut, perhaps? That would explain the "floating" visor Wolverine finds. It would also explain who Cyclops is blasting at so urgently in the teaser.

Cool idea. But he is blasting out into the lake so its obv not gonna be Juggernaut unless he has some powers I dont know about. This realisticly leaves the possibility only of magneto or jean. Now I dont think that magneto could take a blast like that, which leaves jean who we saw almost control his blasts without the full power of pheonix. Or of course he could just be blasting in uncontrollable rage. And if thats the case god help the squirels on the other side of the lake

[Downhere]

Or of course he could just be blasting in uncontrollable rage. And if thats the case god help the squirels on the other side of the lake

LOL. That would be a great action sequence. lol.

[Iceman]

Not sure if the animal rights guys would be too impressed

[VinnieB]

I think Fox are playing everyone by not having posters of him or not really showing him in trailers or not much about him to keep the hype guessing game and i hope i dont spoil myself by reading into too much maybe about 3 weeks b 4 i should not go into the spoilers section LOL

[Downhere]

I think Fox are playing everyone by not having posters of him or not really showing him in trailers or not much about him to keep the hype guessing game and i hope i dont spoil myself by reading into too much maybe about 3 weeks b 4 i should not go into the spoilers section LOL

I think Fox may be doing that as well, but then again they may not be. lol.

[Iceman]

I think Fox are playing everyone by not having posters of him or not really showing him in trailers or not much about him to keep the hype guessing game and i hope i dont spoil myself by reading into too much maybe about 3 weeks b 4 i should not go into the spoilers section LOL

That wouldn't surprise me at all - In fact I would love it if FOx were doing it just to make people look stupid - but noone would care coz they all get their Cyclops back

[Hugh'sMrs]

Not sure if the animal rights guys would be too impressed

They'll have to post a disclaimer. No squirrels were actually harmed during the filming of this scene.

:)

[Paste Pot Pete]

That's something I've always wondered about- when Scott rips off his glasses and blasts at something. He does it so quickly and with such rage that it could only be against an enemy. He's not firing out of blind anger just over losing Jean; if that was the case I could see him firing up into the sky, like the shot of him looking up and screaming. But he's shooting at something specific, threatening, and eye-level.

[Iceman]

They'll have to post a disclaimer. No squirrels were actually harmed during the filming of this scene.

:)

It doesn't matter if a few.... Yeh you're right we need a disclaimer

[peteapan]

That's something I've always wondered about- when Scott rips off his glasses and blasts at something. He does it so quickly and with such rage that it could only be against an enemy. He's not firing out of blind anger just over losing Jean; if that was the case I could see him firing up into the sky, like the shot of him looking up and screaming. But he's shooting at something specific, threatening, and eye-level.

Its the squirrels Im telling ya! I agree though the iconic pic of cyclops rage is him firing into the sky. I can see him firing at a fully flamed pheonix not knowing its Jean confused and upset and thinking his mind is playing tricks. or confusing her for an ememy

[GothicPowerMix1]

Its the squirrels Im telling ya! I agree though the iconic pic of cyclops rage is him firing into the sky. I can see him firing at a fully flamed pheonix not knowing its Jean confused and upset and thinking his mind is playing tricks. or confusing her for an ememy

IT WOULD BE AWESOME if Scott gets to do his Scream & let out his anger & just when he finished The Pheonix in Full Fire Bird gear blasts out of the Water & at first Scott does not know its Jean so Scott fires at the Pheonix & then Jean talks to Scott. But if Scott dies in this Scene at first The Pheonix could just be Pheonix & not Jean & since Scott would be attacking The Pheonix The Pheonix would then fight back & kill Scott & then the Human Form Jean comes back & she sees Scott dead then faints or something & thats when Wolverine comes in.

[the a1ant]

I think Fox are playing everyone by not having posters of him or not really showing him in trailers or not much about him to keep the hype guessing game and i hope i dont spoil myself by reading into too much maybe about 3 weeks b 4 i should not go into the spoilers section LOL

It's almost like they're making it too obvious. For a company who tries to keep secrets, they sure are making it obvious that the rumors of Cyke's death are true...which is why I think he won't actually die. So many things pointing to it. They didn't need to show Cyke's glasses floating towards Wolverine. That practically makes fans think Phoenix destroyed him, and his glasses were being held in the air by telekinesis (SP?).

Something's just so fishy to me.

[peteapan]

IT WOULD BE AWESOME if Scott gets to do his Scream & let out his anger & just when he finished The Pheonix in Full Fire Bird gear blasts out of the Water & at first Scott does not know its Jean so Scott fires at the Pheonix & then Jean talks to Scott. But if Scott dies in this Scene at first The Pheonix could just be Pheonix & not Jean & since Scott would be attacking The Pheonix The Pheonix would then fight back & kill Scott & then the Human Form Jean comes back & she sees Scott dead then faints or something & thats when Wolverine comes in.

Cool, except i dont want cyke to die!

[GothicPowerMix1]

Cool, except i dont want cyke to die!

Picture This

During the Final Battle & after a certain battle with Baldy Professors sacrifice does not go un notice & Jean is fighting the Pheonix herself & as Jean defeats the Pheonix & during this stage she brings back Scott unknowingly & Scott makes an appearence at the Final Battle

[Iceman]

It's almost like they're making it too obvious. For a company who tries to keep secrets, they sure are making it obvious that the rumors of Cyke's death are true...which is why I think he won't actually die. So many things pointing to it. They didn't need to show Cyke's glasses floating towards Wolverine. That practically makes fans think Phoenix destroyed him, and his glasses were being held in the air by telekinesis (SP?).

Something's just so fishy to me.

they don't really need to show a funeral scene in a trailer either - it doesn't exactly add to the excitement

I really think Fox would come up smelling of peaches if they fool everyone (it's not too late if any of you execs arer reading) - best bit of reverse psychology from a studio I've ever seen

They know all about the fan feeling towards the death - They must be playing up to it by not including Cyke in hardly anything that gets released & just chuckling to themselves at their deviousness

I wish

[peteapan]

Picture This

During the Final Battle & after a certain battle with Baldy Professors sacrifice does not go un notice & Jean is fighting the Pheonix herself & as Jean defeats the Pheonix & during this stage she brings back Scott unknowingly & Scott makes an appearence at the Final Battle

I always ask, why is everyone so sure of Prof X biting the dust?

[GothicPowerMix1]

I always ask, why is everyone so sure of Prof X biting the dust?

He could always come back 2 :up:

You know what would be a cool battle. After Jean defeats. The Pheonix ITSELF becomes an ACTUAL THING & is in Fire Bird form (Jean also when she defeats it still has some amazing Pheonix Power in her) the real Pheonix form just go beserks & starts destroying everything & everyone in its path so its Jean / X-Men & maybe Brotherhood joining together (again) to stop The Pheonix

[Iceman]

I always ask, why is everyone so sure of Prof X biting the dust?

not only that, there seem to be hardly any complaints about it

Probably because it makes sense in the big war for him to go down with his dream & pass the reins to Cyclops - but it doesn't really work if Cyclops evaporates as well

[peteapan]

He could always come back 2 :up:

You know what would be a cool battle. After Jean defeats. The Pheonix ITSELF becomes an ACTUAL THING & is in Fire Bird form (Jean also when she defeats it still has some amazing Pheonix Power in her) the real Pheonix form just go beserks & starts destroying everything & everyone in its path so its Jean / X-Men & maybe Brotherhood joining together (again) to stop The Pheonix

To be honest I wanna see Brotherhood vs. Xmen full scale battle rather than another teaming up affair. I reckon pheonix will just disappear when she comes to her senses. If she comes to her senses.

[peteapan]

not only that, there seem to be hardly any complaints about it

Probably because it makes sense in the big war for him to go down with his dream & pass the reins to Cyclops - but it doesn't really work if Cyclops evaporates as well

It doesnt work at all, not after the first film established who was gonna take control if anything happened to the Prof, in Cyclops moving speech. In my opinion it would be pretty sad if he was dead too and Logan and Storm took over, BTW what do u think of Psylocke being part of the brotherhood in this one?

[GothicPowerMix1]

I reckon pheonix will just disappear when she comes to her senses. If she comes to her senses.

She will. Its what happens after she comes to her senses is the big question mark.

[Essex]

It's almost like they're making it too obvious. For a company who tries to keep secrets, they sure are making it obvious that the rumors of Cyke's death are true...which is why I think he won't actually die. So many things pointing to it. They didn't need to show Cyke's glasses floating towards Wolverine. That practically makes fans think Phoenix destroyed him, and his glasses were being held in the air by telekinesis (SP?).

Something's just so fishy to me.

Too obvious to whom? Fox isn't marketing this movie to us. It's being marketed to casual fans and movie-goers. Showing that scene in the trailer won't make a regular audience think one way or the other. The only way a person would assume Scott's death is if he/she were aware of the script review and constant rumours.

[Iceman]

It doesnt work at all, not after the first film established who was gonna take control if anything happened to the Prof, in Cyclops moving speech. In my opinion it would be pretty sad if he was dead too and Logan and Storm took over, BTW what do u think of Psylocke being part of the brotherhood in this one?

I suppose it's good she's in but I can't really think of her as Psylocke. She looks good enough as a Brotherhood henhman but I don't think she looks like & I can't really recognise her as Psylocke so it doesn't really mean that much to me. If any further X-films are to be made I would have preferred that they would have just left her out so that the opening was available in the future for her to become a full fledged X-Man (maybe not a major character) who more resembled Psylocke to me.

[peteapan]

I suppose it's good she's in but I can't really think of her as Psylocke. She looks good enough as a Brotherhood henhman but I don't think she looks like & I can't really recognise her as Psylocke so it doesn't really mean that much to me. If any further X-films are to be made I would have preferred that they would have just left her out so that the opening was available in the future for her to become a full fledged X-Man (maybe not a major character) who more resembled Psylocke to me.

Yeh i agree. quite liberal with the smaller characters in throwing them round in terms of who's side they are fighting on. Would be cool to see some interaction with Angel although that may be a little hopeful!

[Iceman]

or even an involvement with Cyclops like in the comics (attempt to involve thread topic) - he could do with some comfort now that he's lost Jean!

;)


but I did like Archangel/Psylocke in the Crimson Dawn storyline

[peteapan]

or even an involvement with Cyclops like in the comics (attempt to involve thread topic) - he could do with some comfort now that he's lost Jean!

;)

I dont think cyke will have much interaction with anyone through the film. He will go all lonerish and either go away and come back, or die.

[Iceman]

go away and come back, take off his visor & wipe everyone out

[peteapan]

go away and come back, take off his visor & wipe everyone out

Be a laugh if the end of the film was just him in this desert of death having killed every single person there. I wouldnt complain

[X-Maniac]

He could always come back 2 :up:

You know what would be a cool battle. After Jean defeats. The Pheonix ITSELF becomes an ACTUAL THING & is in Fire Bird form (Jean also when she defeats it still has some amazing Pheonix Power in her) the real Pheonix form just go beserks & starts destroying everything & everyone in its path so its Jean / X-Men & maybe Brotherhood joining together (again) to stop The Pheonix

I think most of us here would disagree. Having Jean evolve into the super-powered Phoenix would be ruined if the Phoenix then became a separate thing that she also had to fight. Keep it human, keep it real, keep it about Jean, don't start complicating it by making Phoenix a separate entity - it was bad enough when the comics did this.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think most of us here would disagree. Having Jean evolve into the super-powered Phoenix would be ruined if the Phoenix then became a separate thing that she also had to fight. Keep it human, keep it real, keep it about Jean, don't start complicating it by making Phoenix a separate entity - it was bad enough when the comics did this.

Amen.

[ironmaidenrules]

ok guys
lets focus
why bother making scotts blast look cooler if he only uses them for one scene

yea, cool new effects, but why bother?

why kill scott?

lets ask ourselves this

why kill him?

will he be absent from the movie? most likely
but why kill him?
because the actor works on another movie? nah
because he was so underused no one will care? WE CARE
not important enough? PIVITOL ROLE

while he may not be the star, or even do much...but i dont think he will die.

[Maze]

From Simon Kinberg at the XverseI was respectful and simply asked if Cyclops uses his power against an enemy. The other question which u dont have to answer but if you do could be answered in general terms was has Cyclop's role been changed in any way since the AICN script?

*I haven’t looked at the AICN “script” since we wrote it, about a year ago. Remember, that “script” was actually a production scriptment written for budgeting the first 88 pages of the movie. So much has changed since then that I’m sure Scott’s role has shifted significantly.

does Simon comments are about scott scene from the beginning of the movie ?
does it mean that scott live? i would assume reading him that Scott live..
i hope i'm right beacuse i'm pretty sure that a lot of fans are going to be hopeful from now on....hoping that Simon know what he is doing there..anyway ,always nice from his part to take the time to answer fan question(like he can lol) :)

[Aiden]

He's gonna live. I can feel it

[Wolverini]

I dunno yet. I just finished watching X².

That promo picture from a magazine looks different. But im not TOO sure about the costumes.

The only noticable differences are that his hair is longer in the new shot and his visor changed to a lighter colour ...

Anyone think they can bring up some comparing pics?

[Sketchee]

I think most of us here would disagree. Having Jean evolve into the super-powered Phoenix would be ruined if the Phoenix then became a separate thing that she also had to fight. Keep it human, keep it real, keep it about Jean, don't start complicating it by making Phoenix a separate entity - it was bad enough when the comics did this.

Rather than that, perhaps we can will Jean and Prof X on the astral plane. We saw Prof X inside Senator Kelly's head in the first movie, the scene where the professor can walk. That could be an interesting interaction depending on what state Jean/Phoenix is in at the time.

[bosef982]

I was respectful and simply asked if Cyclops uses his power against an enemy. The other question which u dont have to answer but if you do could be answered in general terms was has Cyclop's role been changed in any way since the AICN script?

*I haven’t looked at the AICN “script” since we wrote it, about a year ago. Remember, that “script” was actually a production scriptment written for budgeting the first 88 pages of the movie. So much has changed since then that I’m sure Scott’s role has shifted significantly.

...bull****. If you're a writer, you know what you wrote and how you changed it. I don't care how many drafts you go through. I ALWAYS chart and can at least remember if somethings changed significantly. Simon would know, ESPECIALLY since he's on set.

[Hugh'sMrs]

...bull****. If you're a writer, you know what you wrote and how you changed it. I don't care how many drafts you go through. I ALWAYS chart and can at least remember if somethings changed significantly. Simon would know, ESPECIALLY since he's on set.

Not to be rude, but I think alot of their answers have a high pew factor. I'm sure they kept all the different drafts especially the original general outline. He's sure Scott's role has shifted significantly. :confused: Unless he doesn't get vaporized at Alkali Lake I dont' see how it could be significantly different. He's definitely at the lake, then only his glasses are there by the time Wolverine shows up. I doubt he went for a stumble through the forest without them so something pretty 'significant' must've happened to him. I don't think he was kidnapped by cure-wielding soldiers or to be Callisto's cabana boy which only leaves one alternative.

[bosef982]

Not to be rude, but I think alot of their answers have a high pew factor. I'm sure they kept all the different drafts especially the original general outline. He's sure Scott's role has shifted significantly. :confused: Unless he doesn't get vaporized at Alkali Lake I dont' see how it could be significantly different. He's definitely at the lake, then only his glasses are there by the time Wolverine shows up. I doubt he went for a stumble through the forest without them so something pretty 'significant' must've happened to him. I don't think he was kidnapped by cure-wielding soldiers or to be Callisto's cabana boy which only leaves one alternative.

It has nothing to do with "pew factor" or "drafts" -- when you write something, and he wrote the first draft so he says, you remember what you've done in revisions. Period. He was avoiding the question. Now, why that is, is beyond me...but he did.

[PWN3R]

ok guys
lets focus
why bother making scotts blast look cooler if he only uses them for one scene

yea, cool new effects, but why bother?




You have an interesting point there! :up:

That makes alot of sense...

[tonytr1687]

Simon's recent answer gave me a lot more hope. I mean he practically came right out and said "Scott's role has shifted significantly since the early draft."

[vanillacyke]

I don't know what the heck to think anymore. I wanna think he gets some cool things to do buuuuuut I don't wanna get my hopes up.

[Octoberist]

I think the bottom line is that Kinberg's recent answers do give me some hope.

The issue, however, is that I feel like he's still very vague about them. And some of these questions aren't that 'spoilerific' so I don't understand. And God bless Kinberg..Of course I'm glad that he's doing this service in the first place, but throw us a bone.

Now, it sucks because I can't be confident about Cyclops' role still, after all of these months..I still feel the same..

[Sketchee]

It has nothing to do with "pew factor" or "drafts" -- when you write something, and he wrote the first draft so he says, you remember what you've done in revisions. Period. He was avoiding the question. Now, why that is, is beyond me...but he did.

I don't know if I feel the same way. I often look back journal or draft book and think "I wrote that?" I mean it's in my handwriting and it might even be something that I used significant elements of it later, but I just won't remember it exactly. I would think that a professional writer like this screenwriter probably writers pages and pages ever a day which isn't easy to keep track of. Especially considering how many drafts, discussions and research they've apparently put into this script, I can see where he could become unsure as to which version is the one on the website which he admits he hasn't looked at.

[JustABill]

I often look back on old work and say the same thing....''I wrote this?" ''I did this in that script? In that draft?"

[The Guard]

Cool idea. But he is blasting out into the lake so its obv not gonna be Juggernaut unless he has some powers I dont know about. This realisticly leaves the possibility only of magneto or jean. Now I dont think that magneto could take a blast like that, which leaves jean who we saw almost control his blasts without the full power of pheonix. Or of course he could just be blasting in uncontrollable rage. And if thats the case god help the squirels on the other side of the lake.

One, do we know that he is, in fact, blasting over the lake? And two, why the hell would Scott just be shooting optic blasts at the lake? This is Mr. Control. I don't think he's just going to rip off his glasses and start blasting away. "Stupid lake! You killed my fiancee!" Doubt it. Nor do I think that his powers are overloading in that shot, or that he simply can't control his blasts. He looks like he knows damn well that he needs to blast something, and is ripping off his glasses to do so. So let's say he goes to Alkali Lake alone early in the film. Later on, Phoenix rises, and for some reason Magneto and the Brotherhood are there, too. In that one shot, Scott is screaming as Phoenix flies off, and then has to engage the Brotherhood, perhaps even Juggernaut (which, if he was running at you, you might rip of your glasses to blast, right?). Wolverine finds just his glasses there when he goes after Scott, but no Scott.

[cookiva]

And two, why the hell would Scott just be shooting optic blasts at the lake?

Because it was the lake that took his wife....?

[JustABill]

I'm really starting to believe the Magneto/Juggernaut angle...

[peteapan]

One, do we know that he is, in fact, blasting over the lake? And two, why the hell would Scott just be shooting optic blasts at the lake? This is Mr. Control. I don't think he's just going to rip off his glasses and start blasting away. "Stupid lake! You killed my fiancee!" Doubt it. Nor do I think that his powers are overloading in that shot, or that he simply can't control his blasts. He looks like he knows damn well that he needs to blast something, and is ripping off his glasses to do so. So let's say he goes to Alkali Lake alone early in the film. Later on, Phoenix rises, and for some reason Magneto and the Brotherhood are there, too. In that one shot, Scott is screaming as Phoenix flies off, and then has to engage the Brotherhood, perhaps even Juggernaut (which, if he was running at you, you might rip of your glasses to blast, right?). Wolverine finds just his glasses there when he goes after Scott, but no Scott.

It is the lake he is blasting act. Either that or there is some very very dodgy cinematography going on. Watch teaser again, it is clear the direction of his blasts.

[Hugh'sMrs]

Here is the cover of one of the junior X3 books.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...lance&n=283155 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006082204X/ref=pd_sbs_b_2/002-4983598-2548066?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155)

If you notice Scott isn't one of the characters featured on the cover. I can understand Jean being excluded but not the team leader. I don't know about anyone else but his absence in just about everything connected with this movie is very concerning to me.

[peteapan]

Here is the cover of one of the junior X3 books.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...lance&n=283155 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006082204X/ref=pd_sbs_b_2/002-4983598-2548066?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155)

If you notice Scott isn't one of the characters featured on the cover. I can understand Jean being excluded but not the team leader. I don't know about anyone else but his absence in just about everything connected with this movie is very concerning to me.

I think it gets to the point where u have to start thinking these concerns are valid even if people say we are always just moaning and ignoring the positive possibilities.

[wobbly]

One thing about Kinsberg's comments that dont thrill me is that we saw the same kinda thing with the FF script that he also had a hand in later on: The original script was leaked and contained plot details that didn't go down well with the fans at all, mainly in how Doom was handled. Now we were told that script had been heavilly re-written and things had been changed but in the end what we saw wasn't that far removed from the original script at all (the most significant change was simply in Doom's name) .

Can't help but think that may also be the case here...prior to the trailer the validity of AICN's script was in doubt, but having seen Scott at the lakeside and even blasting off his eyes almost exactly as decribed in that script (followed by Logan picking his visor out of the air) I cant say I'd be suprised if that scene plays out as we fear. Other details from that script may have been changed a lot but so far that one sadly seems to have stayed on the money.

[turtlenation]

I came across this "scoop" in canmag but it's more more fan fiction than fact, I guess. But it's well written and I think it could work in the movie.

hey, got some info for y'all if you can deal with some heavy spoilers. this has to do with cyclops & his rumored death in xmen3. it comes from a very reliable insider source... a very close friend of mine who is assisting with some of the film work. so read no further if you want the fate of cyclops to remain a mystery.

ok... for those who are still reading... cyclops appears to be killed accidentally by jean gray (pheonix) near the beginning of the film. most of the rumors regarding this scene are right on. cyclops vaporizes and his whereabouts remain unknown to all. the guilt and emotions caused by this traumatic episode unsettle jean and she begins to slip into a schizophrenic state which eventually manifests itself as the dark pheonix.

the part i like, probably in the scene in jean's old neighborhood:

according to my friend, professor x and the dark pheonix eventually come into conflict & she goes into a dangerous rage causing a great deal of destruction. professor x tries to calm her, but she no longer wants to hear anything from, particularly upon learning that he set up psychic blocks unbeknownst to her when she was a child. she blames the professor for scott's death.

the professor is knocked to the floor and appears to be unconscious or in a coma. at this time cyclops appears. he is dressed in his xmen uniform and is now clean shaven. he is no longer wearing his protective eyeglasses (apparantly not needing them anymore). he approaches jean and gives her a hug. this soothes her and she calms down in his arms.

as jean is holding scott & she depowers... jean looks again at his face & cyclops becomes professor x. this was all a projection of the professor's mind & it had served to deescalate the situation. jean again becomes enraged & dematerializes the professor. she is now beyond reach & willing joins magneto. it appears that jean is no more... and she is now the dark pheonix. until....

[Downhere]

I came across this "scoop" in canmag but it's more more fan fiction than fact, I guess. But it's well written and I think it could work in the movie.

hey, got some info for y'all if you can deal with some heavy spoilers. this has to do with cyclops & his rumored death in xmen3. it comes from a very reliable insider source... a very close friend of mine who is assisting with some of the film work. so read no further if you want the fate of cyclops to remain a mystery.

ok... for those who are still reading... cyclops appears to be killed accidentally by jean gray (pheonix) near the beginning of the film. most of the rumors regarding this scene are right on. cyclops vaporizes and his whereabouts remain unknown to all. the guilt and emotions caused by this traumatic episode unsettle jean and she begins to slip into a schizophrenic state which eventually manifests itself as the dark pheonix.

the part i like, probably in the scene in jean's old neighborhood:

according to my friend, professor x and the dark pheonix eventually come into conflict & she goes into a dangerous rage causing a great deal of destruction. professor x tries to calm her, but she no longer wants to hear anything from, particularly upon learning that he set up psychic blocks unbeknownst to her when she was a child. she blames the professor for scott's death.

the professor is knocked to the floor and appears to be unconscious or in a coma. at this time cyclops appears. he is dressed in his xmen uniform and is now clean shaven. he is no longer wearing his protective eyeglasses (apparantly not needing them anymore). he approaches jean and gives her a hug. this soothes her and she calms down in his arms.

as jean is holding scott & she depowers... jean looks again at his face & cyclops becomes professor x. this was all a projection of the professor's mind & it had served to deescalate the situation. jean again becomes enraged & dematerializes the professor. she is now beyond reach & willing joins magneto. it appears that jean is no more... and she is now the dark pheonix. until....

Isn't that old and like already debunked?

[turtlenation]

yup, it's old but I like the way Phoenix's motivation is written. It's been bothering me how she'd turn out.

[Aiden]

Yeah I thought that was debunked a while back

[Downhere]

yup, it's old but I like the way Phoenix's motivation is written. It's been bothering me how she'd turn out.

I just don't like the whole de-molecular stuff happening with the Prof. and Cyke. I'm really hoping Cyke will live! *sighs*