Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Storm22]

see im not sure if i want to read spoilers yet.

If i go to the cinema not knowing spoilers..and he comes back then i think ill scream with joy.

But if he just dies then ill be bitterly disapointed...so it might be a smart move to know beforehand.

I'm the same! I'd be happy if I found out about Cyclops only ie. if he dies "like a fart in the wind" or if he dies but comes back at the end to save Jean, like the heroic figure he should be!

[xwolverine2]

*Vomits at you*
*takes mois sheild and covers himself with it*

LOL!:D :D

[PWN3R]

me either!!!!:eek: :( :( :(

*cringes at the thought of leaving the boards*

I JUST DONT KNOW!:(


:( :(

Knowing myself, I will prolly read them....

[Aiden]

Don't leave Wolvie!!!!!!

[MoiBijou]

*takes mois sheild and covers himself with it*

LOL!:D :D

I lend it to you until tomorrow: I'm going to bed. Be careful with it or Cap will kill me! :D

Nighty you all! :)

[gap5ewl]

well if he does "die" i doubt it would be for long in this movie *wink wink* ;)

[Pablo Parker]

Sadly, i think what Ratner said could be translated as "Yes, he dies in the movie. Sorry for that. But hey, maybe he´ll come back in a sequel with another director on board..." :(

[xwolverine2]

Don't leave Wolvie!!!!!!:( :(

Knowing myself, I will prolly read them....
me too..:( :down

if not then i might go crazy not being able to talk about x3:O

[PWN3R]

I lend it to you until tomorrow: I'm going to bed. Be careful with it or Cap will kill me! :D

Nighty you all! :)


night night




me too..:( :down

if not then i might go crazy not being able to talk about x3:O

Same, guess we aren't going anywhere...:eek:

[Aiden]

If I dont talk about X3 for a day, I will ultimately go insane

[xwolverine2]

the one thing that i think is false about cyclops death is the "demolicurization".....i think that it will be WAY different!!.

probably more like she(if pheonix) kills him mentally..

[FieryBalrog]

Cyclops tried to impress Jean on their first meeting by wearing some truly awful checkered pants (and a yellow bowtie!) :) :

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1183/cyclopspants1eh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[PWN3R]

Man I want those pants!

[Aiden]

Maybe thats where Bryan got the inspiration for those god awful pants he wore in X2

[xwolverine2]

Maybe thats where Bryan got the inspiration for those god awful pants he wore in X2
:eek: I WAS GONNA SAY THAT!!!!!

[FieryBalrog]

Cyclops dies.

We'll have to come to terms with that, folks!

wheres Worthy when you need him

[xwolverine2]

wheres Worthy when you need him
lol!!...
i think hes tired of saying it by now...:D

[Maze]

why would Ratner hint at something like that. Why would he make that Jean comment? he is strongly hinting that Cyclops will/could come back in THIS MOVIE. Unless, he's talking about X4, I can't see how Cyclops can come back without the help of the Phoenix..
Thats what i think too, reading, that for him that is the last movie..

[Zahack]

ok what does everyone think. would they make it seem like hes dead? or will he die? and if he does die and return how do you think they would explane that.

[Storm22]

I really hope that IF Cyclops dies that he comes back in X3 and not in another movie!!

[Maze]

ok what does everyone think. would they make it seem like hes dead? or will he die? and if he does die and return how do you think they would explane that.

because of that:

The synopsis also reveals that Callisto will have the ability to locate and assess the power levels of other mutants, a power very similar to fellow Morlock Caliban's ability in the comic books.

my theory now:


Very interesting imo..

the theory which was saying that Callisto could witness the rising of the phoenix could be true..

my theory: she finds Jean and Cyke , with the help of another mutant(pyslocke? ) she makes believe to Jean that she has killed him..

Not saying that this is the truth , but it could be what happen.

[Optic Rage]

If jean can take cyclops apart then she can put him back together again.

[migs]

i'm gonna vote for he appears dead due to some sort of manipulation of jeans brain and he comes back at the end.

[migs]

If they do have jean manipulated into believing he's dead, I hope they have some kind of hint from magneto about controlling her and getting rid of her psychic links to her former self to make her truly evil.

[Zahack]

Well now it seems like we could be getting somewhere

SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE A THRED (A NEW ONE) WITH EVERYHTING THAT WE DO KNOW AS OF NOW

[xwolverine2]

If jean can take cyclops apart then she can put him back together again.
yeah!...just like humpty dumpty!

oh wait..........

[XUniverse]

I just hope cyclops is in the movie...I just feel that he is off on a separate mission that eventually involves the ending of the movie. Maybe cyclops is the one who stumbles on the Sentinal factory or something looking for his brother havok who was taken by the government hahahahah. Im being optimistic I know but I really just dont feel they would kill him off especally so close to the beginning of the movie.

[Zahack]

that would be so great if havok was in the movie and someone noone new about it but i say there is no way that would happen but good ideas tho.

[migs]

I just hope cyclops is in the movie...I just feel that he is off on a separate mission that eventually involves the ending of the movie. Maybe cyclops is the one who stumbles on the Sentinal factory or something looking for his brother havok who was taken by the government hahahahah. Im being optimistic I know but I really just dont feel they would kill him off especally so close to the beginning of the movie.


cyke off on a mission eh. That's be cool, but i think it's more likely that everyone thinks he's dead.

[XUniverse]

I agree I doubt anyone like that is in the movie but I do wonder now what cylcops could be doing while not fighting the brother hood along with storm and the gang. Angel seems to be missing as well I wonder if they meet up in the movie along with rogue

[Storm22]

Just thinking - seen as this is being billed as the last film of the trilogy where character arcs are resolved, it's probable that Cyclops will return in the end of X3, hopefully!

[vanillacyke]

Well Ratner did say the characters evolve and even said Cyclops evolves as a character so that means he HAS to at least have more screen time then we think RIGHT?

[XUniverse]

In Ratners interview I read today he mentioned characters such as Cyclops, Magneto and Xavier having to mature more strongly in the movie. I know those are not the exact words. But anyways how would cylcops mature if he dies right at the beginning of the movie...I think he was saying they were going through a transition so I would believe you need more than Cyclops seeing Jean and then dying to formulate this. I just wonder if towards the end he somehow steps up and assumes his role of being the leader. Especally since Ratner said he has taken things from the comic book world.

[migs]

In Ratners interview I read today he mentioned characters such as Cyclops, Magneto and Xavier having to mature more strongly in the movie. I know those are not the exact words. But anyways how would cylcops mature if he dies right at the beginning of the movie...I think he was saying they were going through a transition so I would believe you need more than Cyclops seeing Jean and then dying to formulate this. I just wonder if towards the end he somehow steps up and assumes his role of being the leader. Especally since Ratner said he has taken things from the comic book world.


maybe that means he leaves for a while and struggles with his role on the team after what has happened.

Remember storm's line "if you're with us than be with us" in the trailer. She could be talking to a cyke that's thinking about quitting when they need him most because he cant handle it. She could be talking to beast or rogue about the cure, but i don't see her getting that angry over someone making a personal choice. A choice that would screw the whole team over might insight some harsher words though.

[Octoberist]

It could be Beast too. Remember, he almost caught in the middle.

[XUniverse]

maybe that means he leaves for a while and struggles with his role on the team after what has happened.

Remember storm's line "if you're with us than be with us" in the trailer. She could be talking to a cyke that's thinking about quitting when they need him most because he cant handle it. She could be talking to beast or rogue about the cure, but i don't see her getting that angry over someone making a personal choice. A choice that would screw the whole team over might insight some harsher words though.


:up:

[flavio_lebeau]

Storm is talking to Wolverine in the "if you'ree with us..." line. If you watch the teaser, you see her getting out of the room and Logan looking upset. The background, positions and clothes are the same in both scenes.

[Octoberist]

I'm telling you...it could be Strom talking to Beast...:)

[Zahack]

it could be scott just like someone just said on a other theard

[migs]

It could be Beast too. Remember, he almost caught in the middle.


yeah. it could be the beast. the team does need him, and he is obviously thinking about the cure. I would be more inclined to think it's scott because his decision would effect the whole team, and as their leader he should step up to the plate regardless of his current emotional state. That conversation could even happen in the beginning of the movie. Cyke quits/goes on leave after harsh words from storm, who is also a team leader, goes to alkali lake, and sees jean. Storm and wolvie go because the prof senses jean, then the mysterious vanishing of cyclops ensues.

Beast is also likely, but as a senior member who has come back after a while to help out I don't see storm caring as much about his personal decision to deal with his mutation. Sure she has strong beliefs about the cure, but I would think she is mature enought to respect personal choice.

[WorthyStevens]

Now also, Brett DID say Simon and Zak were the BIGGEST X-Men fans in the world. That's why I'm confident Cyke will live. And he HAS to have a hand in bringing Jean back. He HAS to.

Not to mention Brett comparing Scott to Jean, where he said:

At the end of the last X-Men, from what I saw, Jean Grey had died

[Zahack]

ok this prob sound really DUMB but i dont care. is there anything like this that happend in the comics? where scott cant die becasue he connected with jean?

[migs]

Storm is talking to Wolverine in the "if you'ree with us..." line. If you watch the teaser, you see her getting out of the room and Logan looking upset. The background, positions and clothes are the same in both scenes.


I just went back and watched that. Logan looks upset, but about what. Storm is standing by the door, and she looks back. To me that makes it seem like someone just left through that door, and wolvie and storm are both angry/upset. Also, I doubt wolverine has any thoughts on leaving the team at this point. 2 reasons. First, no way he would take the cure. His mutation rules, and he can go out in public no problem because he looks normal. Second, he is one of the people that has to step up and be a leader of sorts in a time of crisis. I'd say that it's either beast or scott.

[taintedFB]

I think there are two viable scenarios given what we know about Marsden's availability/ time on set.

1. Cyclops disappears after the Alkali Lake scene, his glasses are found, and EVERYONE thinks he's dead. (No Cerebro in X3, but Xavier could mention he can't sense him...and Scott is really in a shielded location. He eventually gets out to join the final battle mid-fight.

2. Scott is found unconscious at the lake and remains so until he wakes up and joins the fight at the end.

I don't know how else they would explain his absence and their lack of concern over his whereabouts after finding his glasses.

UNLESS, what if that shot is completely CUT from the final version of the film. Imagine if the floating glasses never appear in the film. That would be something.

I hope the demolecularization thing is false because I think it is a little too OUT-THERE for this more reality-science based world.

Either way, I think Ratner is hinting at a false death. ALSO maybe he is thought dead, then comes back and sacrifices himself, destroying Phoenix. He and JEan would die together at the END.

[miketx]

what if at the end hes fused with apocalypse

[Octoberist]

I can't see Cyclops being 'out cold' for the entire movie, then waking up near the end. Maybe in a coma..

[migs]

ok this prob sound really DUMB but i dont care. is there anything like this that happend in the comics? where scott cant die becasue he connected with jean?

In the dark phoenix saga, mastermind projected an image of himself killing cyke into her head. The reason was to sever the psychic bond she had with him. They do have that bond, and if I remember correctly, losing that bond because of his apparant death drove her to the dark side. I dont think their psychic link would keep him alive.

[Zahack]

thanks migs you alwez help me out here

[migs]

word.

[taintedFB]

But Jean would never KILL Cyclops. She always kept Phoenix from doing it. Also, there doen't seem to be a psychic bond in the movieverse because she was very concerned about Scott in X2 and didn't know if he was okay.

[Zahack]

yeah i knew you were going to say that

[Maze]

I just went back and watched that. Logan looks upset, but about what. Storm is standing by the door, and she looks back. To me that makes it seem like someone just left through that door, and wolvie and storm are both angry/upset. Also, I doubt wolverine has any thoughts on leaving the team at this point. 2 reasons. First, no way he would take the cure. His mutation rules, and he can go out in public no problem because he looks normal. Second, he is one of the people that has to step up and be a leader of sorts in a time of crisis. I'd say that it's either beast or scott.

It could be Beast yep ..it could be a direct reference to the way Beast behave in the gifted storyline .

[Octoberist]

Yeah, Beast is probably the most confused one.

[taintedFB]

Yes, I meant Scott is in a coma. Or perhaps mentally vacant. Like his Psyche got sucked into the Phoenix or something... who knows...

[taintedFB]

Perhaps this is where Psylocke comes in. Callisto detects Phoenix and sees the reunion of Scott and Jean. Then Psylcke projects the image of Jean killing Scott into Jean's head. They take him away into a shelded location....

BUT I think Jean is too powerful to be manipulated like that. We'lls ee what happens.

[Octoberist]

Jean is too powerful....I don't know.. The only one who can attempt to manipulate her is Xavier..

[Maze]

she is indeed Octoberist..but when she comes back she is weak , confused..not in control of her powers..even more if somebody manipulate her mind , we don't know how strong he/she is..

[Octoberist]

That's true Maze. I can't see Psylocke having that big of a role.

[Maze]

Well ,psylocke could have a pivotal role even if she has a small part like Jason in X2 ..

[Octoberist]

True....there must be a reason why Psylocke is in the movie, unless she's in for the sake of having a cameo..

[Storm22]

We know she's an "integral part of the Brotherhood" so she must do something of importance!

[Maze]

True....there must be a reason why Psylocke is in the movie, unless she's in for the sake of having a cameo..
kinberg said something about her if i remember right:confused: ..even if of course he didn't spoil anything ,she seemed more important than Arclight for example..

[Octoberist]

ahhh..got ya. Very interesting.

[PWN3R]

Hopefully he was not exaggerating, but he did say integral part...

[ShadowBoxing]

This was something I made in caption this but I feel it fits in this thread as well

Mutant auditions
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/3717/cyclops46xj.jpg
Cyclops: Hello Mr Ratner, my name is Scott Summers, aka Cyclops, I'm sure you have heard of me from the comics and this audition for X3 is just a formality
Ratner: No....I don't believe I am familiar, well come in and introduce yourself.
http://images.zap2it.com/20050830/brettratner_240.jpg
Ratner: This is going to be a huge summer blockbuster and I want to make sure I have only the best and most important characters from the X-Men franchise
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7185/cykeglasses4op.jpg
Cyclops: Oh well thats easy. Not only was I one of the origin five X-Men, I was the first. Xavier's prized student and surogate son. I also was the teams leader throughout the bulk of its existence. Furthermore I am the husband of Jean Grey aka the Phoenix. I have two children who have lived on to become famous X-Men in their own right. Furthermore my optic blast make me one of the most powerful X-Men alive helping me to defeat Magneto, the X-Men themselves and Apocalypse single handedly
Ratner: ahhhhhhhhh
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/spotlights/news/534.jpg
Ratner: Look kid I am sure you are a cool mutant and all and I really had a fun time talking to you. But we really only have room for important and series defining characters in this film....I can give you a small cameo if you'd like.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6578/cyclops191wn.jpg
Cyclops: I....seeee. alright then
http://images.hollywood.com/images/4_1111244.jpg
Ratner: Great...I'll try to squeeze you in..........okay next up is Callisto, yeah she sounds really important we need to give her a huge role:up:

[Maze]

Searching in Simon archived answers psylocke comment i reread that one about the possibility of the original Xmen team(from the comic) together and i find it very interesting :That I think I won't get answer, but let me try: Since X1 the idea of bringing the former team of X-Men on comics was planned. I mean, Angel e Beast to add to the present ones on X1 (Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops and Storm). That idea could just be fulfilled now, for many reasons that all of us now know. There is just that purpose or was thought something else? Not necessarily something that will enter X3.
All I can say is: Angel and Beast are in X3. In terms of putting together the original team, you’ll have to wait and see…

[GreatWhiteWhale]

I wonder..

If Cyclops dies unceromoniously in this one, and X4 does come around, and all that talk about the 'end of the trilogy' is just hyperbole..

..would people be happy if Cyclops got more of a spotlight role in x4? Even if it does mean a 'comic book' type explanation for his death and resurrection?

(Nell, I can guess you're answer)

[Spidey 2007]

I think there are two viable scenarios given what we know about Marsden's availability/ time on set.

1. Cyclops disappears after the Alkali Lake scene, his glasses are found, and EVERYONE thinks he's dead. (No Cerebro in X3, but Xavier could mention he can't sense him...and Scott is really in a shielded location. He eventually gets out to join the final battle mid-fight.

2. Scott is found unconscious at the lake and remains so until he wakes up and joins the fight at the end.

I don't know how else they would explain his absence and their lack of concern over his whereabouts after finding his glasses.

UNLESS, what if that shot is completely CUT from the final version of the film. Imagine if the floating glasses never appear in the film. That would be something.

I hope the demolecularization thing is false because I think it is a little too OUT-THERE for this more reality-science based world.

Either way, I think Ratner is hinting at a false death. ALSO maybe he is thought dead, then comes back and sacrifices himself, destroying Phoenix. He and JEan would die together at the END.

:up: yes yes, I really wouldnt like them to go thru the demolecurlazation(however you spell it) i really shuldnt mind if he was supposedly dead or presumed dead, but it would have to have a major major impact on the x-family, so maybe everyone would just pressume him missing. but i liek your idea about them finding cyke "over there" at alkali lake and bringing him back t be in the room next to jean ;):up:

[Maze]

I Have a question in regards to psyloke is her role just a cameo or can we expect to see her in action?

Sorry, can’t talk about new characters roles.

[Storm22]

I wonder..

If Cyclops dies unceromoniously in this one, and X4 does come around, and all that talk about the 'end of the trilogy' is just hyperbole..

..would people be happy if Cyclops got more of a spotlight role in x4? Even if it does mean a 'comic book' type explanation for his death and resurrection?


Not if it means he'll be unceremoniously killed off in X3!! We don't know if X4 will happen so if he dies for nothing in X3 then we and the general audeince may aswell assume he's dead and he's gonna stay dead!

[Maze]

about a possible absence from cyke :

I do think there could be an X-Men film without X and Cyclops. I mean, there are some comics without them. It would probably have to be a spinoff, like Wolverine or the X-Kids movie.

[Storm22]

All we know of Psylocke in X3 is, to repeat myself, she's an "integral part of the Brotherhood".

[the_scream]

But Jean would never KILL Cyclops. She always kept Phoenix from doing it. Also, there doen't seem to be a psychic bond in the movieverse because she was very concerned about Scott in X2 and didn't know if he was okay.

It will be an accident. She'll try to hold back his power and will end up disintegrating him with her own power. She'll blame Xavier and end up doing the same to him too. Following this, the X-Men will be without their father figure and will be tempted to "be cured" or join Magneto. Eventually, the X-Men will team up with the humans to stop Magneto. Jean will turn good again and destroy Magneto and his army. She'll probably die doing this. The film will end with the students continuing on at the mansion with Storm running things. Wolverine may stick around or may decide his job is done. The humans has finally begun accepting the X-Men and Charles Xavier will long be remembered. Cyclops will be forgotten after the first act.

The end. Tears, emotion and no respect to the comic.

[The Original Bamfer]

It will be an accident. She'll try to hold back his power and will end up disintegrating him with her own power. She'll blame Xavier and end up doing the same to him too. Following this, the X-Men will be without their father figure and will be tempted to "be cured" or join Magneto. Eventually, the X-Men will team up with the humans to stop Magneto. Jean will turn good again and destroy Magneto and his army. She'll probably die doing this. The film will end with the students continuing on at the mansion with Storm running things. Wolverine may stick around or may decide his job is done. The humans has finally begun accepting the X-Men and Charles Xavier will long be remembered. Cyclops will be forgotten after the first act.

The end. Tears, emotion and no respect to the comic.

Blah... :down

[Maze]

All we know of Psylocke in X3 is, to repeat myself, she's an "integral part of the Brotherhood".

yup lol ..kinberg is suspisiously quite evasive with her ..
Hey again Mr. Kinberg, Can you give us anything on Psylocke in the film? I've read over your responses and it seems they got you pretty tight lipped on the subject of Betsy. She is freaking HOT! in that pic. that was released recently. Her hair looked fantastic too.

*I agree she is hot. And her hair looks cool. But unfortunately, I can’t say much more than that.

[JustABill]

Please people remember to not insult one another. I don't want this thread closed AGAIN.

[Maze]

a) Is psylocke going to manifest her mutant gift (like the psychic knife)?

*Spoiler. Sorry.

[Compi716]

Why oh why do Ratner and co. keep Cyclops' fate such a secret?! Yeah, I know it's to generate buzz, but I feel like I NEED to know what happens to Cyke. One day I want to come onto these boards and see a thread called, "OFFICIAL! Cyclops does NOT die!"

[Maze]

It will be an accident. She'll try to hold back his power and will end up disintegrating him with her own power. She'll blame Xavier and end up doing the same to him too. Following this, the X-Men will be without their father figure and will be tempted to "be cured" or join Magneto. Eventually, the X-Men will team up with the humans to stop Magneto. Jean will turn good again and destroy Magneto and his army. She'll probably die doing this. The film will end with the students continuing on at the mansion with Storm running things. Wolverine may stick around or may decide his job is done. The humans has finally begun accepting the X-Men and Charles Xavier will long be remembered. Cyclops will be forgotten after the first act.

The end. Tears, emotion and no respect to the comic.

If you've read me i was in agreement with you..untill two days ago..

I think you'll be surprised ;)

[Storm22]

Why oh why do Ratner and co. keep Cyclops' fate such a secret?! Yeah, I know it's to generate buzz, but I feel like I NEED to know what happens to Cyke. One day I want to come onto these boards and see a thread called, "OFFICIAL! Cyclops does NOT die!"

I know, it's frustrating!! There must be a reason they're keeping so hush hush though!

[ShadowBoxing]

If you've read me i was in agreement with you..untill two days ago..

I think you'll be surprised ;)explain

[The Original Bamfer]

Its like this creepy attraction... Cyke is a great character - Bamfer enters the thread for the great character, Cyclops - Bamfer cries at the broken record of arguments...

Eh, I don't blame y'all. What else about Cyke is there to talk about? :O

[PWN3R]

explain

yes plz do Maze. :confused:

[ShadowBoxing]

Its like this creepy attraction... Cyke is a great character - Bamfer enters the thread for the great character, Cyclops - Bamfer cries at the broken record of arguments...

Eh, I don't blame y'all. What else about Cyke is there to talk about? :OYeah what else is anyone gonna talk about but his ONE scene:o :down

[The Original Bamfer]

Shut Up. Fo sho... Its just blunt, nonsensical crap like that... :mad: :p

[RagingTempest]

I have a theory that maybe Angel flies all the way to the lake, and sees Cyclops while his unconsicous, then flies away with him to a hide-out and they team-up for the final battle. Because I really hope Cyke doesn't die.:(

[tonytr1687]

Theres really only two ways Cyke would realistically be able to show up during the final battle. Either he's taken by the Morlocks (and therefore is taken with the Brotherhood when they travel to SF) or Angel finds him. Because theres really no other way he would be able to travel from Canada all the way to California by himself. I'm still trying to figure out how the Brotherhood make it there....I mean theres only one jet that can fly at super-speeds and the X-men are using it.

[Obsidian]

Theres really only two ways Cyke would realistically be able to show up during the final battle. Either he's taken by the Morlocks (and therefore is taken with the Brotherhood when they travel to SF) or Angel finds him. Because theres really no other way he would be able to travel from Canada all the way to California by himself. I'm still trying to figure out how the Brotherhood make it there....I mean theres only one jet that can fly at super-speeds and the X-men are using it.

last time i checked...Cyke had his bike with him

[mustanger405]

Storm's politics become more radical over the three films, and she becomes more a powerful leader. Likewise, Bobby really evolves, becoming more empowered and mature over the three films. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself.

Question 11: There has been an obvious concern among fans of Cyclops after rumors spread about his possible death. How do you react to the fans worries and these rumors? Do you have any words for the concerned? (Asked by: Original Bamfer)

A: As for rumors about Cyclops' death in the film, that would be a spoiler and I cannot comment on that. You'll just have to wait to see the movie. I get this question a lot, and death is relative in the X-Men universe.
Nothing is forever in the Marvel world. At the end of the last X-Men, from what I saw, Jean Grey had died. But she happened to be back on the set on the first day of shooting "X-Men: The Last Stand", so you never know...

Ok guys this is what Ratner said in his latest interview about Cyclops. What does this mean. He said death is relative in the marvel universe meaning nothing is absolute. Which means one of two things. Either Cyclops dies just as we all have been fearing and doesnt come back in this movie. And Ratner is trying to say that doesnt mean he wont come back in another movie down the line. OR WHICH I AM PRAYING TO GOD FOR.....IS THAT THE AUDIENCE IS MADE TO THINK CYCLOPS DIES EARLY IN THE MOVIE AND HE RETURNS AT THE END TO TRULY MAKE A LAST STAND. What do you guys think?
Let us ponder this question with much thought like Cyclops ::)
Whats the verdict?
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7217/cyclops191wn3hp.jpg

[conan69]

Based onthe image posted earlier in this thread,I just bought and read Phoenix Endsong, my first Xmen comic book in 20 years.................



the artwork is nice


Is this what comic books are like nowadays? The narrative sucks

I also picked up a few Ultimate Fantastic Fours (my first in 18 years) becuase I like Lands artwork,and its even worse.

They got their powers from a teleportation device? They live in a world where everyone has superpowers? Holy dog****!! Could they be any more unimaginative. Terrible.

[ShadowBoxing]

Storm's politics become more radical over the three films, and she becomes more a powerful leader. Likewise, Bobby really evolves, becoming more empowered and mature over the three films. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself.

Question 11: There has been an obvious concern among fans of Cyclops after rumors spread about his possible death. How do you react to the fans worries and these rumors? Do you have any words for the concerned? (Asked by: Original Bamfer)

A: As for rumors about Cyclops' death in the film, that would be a spoiler and I cannot comment on that. You'll just have to wait to see the movie. I get this question a lot, and death is relative in the X-Men universe.
Nothing is forever in the Marvel world. At the end of the last X-Men, from what I saw, Jean Grey had died. But she happened to be back on the set on the first day of shooting "X-Men: The Last Stand", so you never know...

Ok guys this is what Ratner said in his latest interview about Cyclops. What does this mean. He said death is relative in the marvel universe meaning nothing is absolute. Which means one of two things. Either Cyclops dies just as we all have been fearing and doesnt come back in this movie. And Ratner is trying to say that doesnt mean he wont come back in another movie down the line. OR WHICH I AM PRAYING TO GOD FOR.....IS THAT THE AUDIENCE IS MADE TO THINK CYCLOPS DIES EARLY IN THE MOVIE AND HE RETURNS AT THE END TO TRULY MAKE A LAST STAND. What do you guys think?
Let us ponder this question with much thought like Cyclops ::)
Whats the verdict?
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7217/cyclops191wn3hp.jpg

Ratner knows if he comes out and says "okay we kill Cyclops for no reason....happy" a ton of people will drop off from seeing the film and there is nothing he can do about it. He is roping you in to see this film by giving you the lingering possibility your (and my) favorite character lives.

[The Original Bamfer]

Ratner knows if he comes out and says "okay we kill Cyclops for no reason....happy" a ton of people will drop off from seeing the film and there is nothing he can do about it. He is roping you in to see this film by giving you the lingering possibility your (and my) favorite character lives.

Dude, you don't know squat about this movie. Stop acting like you do. State that that was your opinion - which is all it was. An assumption.

[conan69]

Ive accepted he croaks.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Actually I like the idea of made to believe scott is dead early in the film, but he comes back to make his last stand in the final battle against the brotherhood and to save Jean.

[The Original Bamfer]

i think its almost meant to happen...

[PWN3R]

i think its almost meant to happen...


Not to single you out Bam, but thats the key phrase in all our replies, what we think. :( :(


What we think may not happen..:( :( :mad:

[tonytr1687]

last time i checked...Cyke had his bike with him

And a bike is gonna get you cross country at the last minute to save the day? Plus its more than likely Logan and Storm would find the bike and take it with them when they go back to the mansion.

[Kurosawa]

It will be an accident. She'll try to hold back his power and will end up disintegrating him with her own power. She'll blame Xavier and end up doing the same to him too. Following this, the X-Men will be without their father figure and will be tempted to "be cured" or join Magneto. Eventually, the X-Men will team up with the humans to stop Magneto. Jean will turn good again and destroy Magneto and his army. She'll probably die doing this. The film will end with the students continuing on at the mansion with Storm running things. Wolverine may stick around or may decide his job is done. The humans has finally begun accepting the X-Men and Charles Xavier will long be remembered. Cyclops will be forgotten after the first act.

The end. Tears, emotion and no respect to the comic.

Most likely.

[tonytr1687]

Storm's politics become more radical over the three films, and she becomes more a powerful leader. Likewise, Bobby really evolves, becoming more empowered and mature over the three films. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself.

Question 11: There has been an obvious concern among fans of Cyclops after rumors spread about his possible death. How do you react to the fans worries and these rumors? Do you have any words for the concerned? (Asked by: Original Bamfer)

A: As for rumors about Cyclops' death in the film, that would be a spoiler and I cannot comment on that. You'll just have to wait to see the movie. I get this question a lot, and death is relative in the X-Men universe.
Nothing is forever in the Marvel world. At the end of the last X-Men, from what I saw, Jean Grey had died. But she happened to be back on the set on the first day of shooting "X-Men: The Last Stand", so you never know...

Ok guys this is what Ratner said in his latest interview about Cyclops. What does this mean. He said death is relative in the marvel universe meaning nothing is absolute. Which means one of two things. Either Cyclops dies just as we all have been fearing and doesnt come back in this movie. And Ratner is trying to say that doesnt mean he wont come back in another movie down the line. OR WHICH I AM PRAYING TO GOD FOR.....IS THAT THE AUDIENCE IS MADE TO THINK CYCLOPS DIES EARLY IN THE MOVIE AND HE RETURNS AT THE END TO TRULY MAKE A LAST STAND. What do you guys think?
Let us ponder this question with much thought like Cyclops ::)
Whats the verdict?
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7217/cyclops191wn3hp.jpg



Well if its the former than shame on Ratner for manipulating us. In his last interview he said he believed there wouldnt be another X-flick so him saying "well he could come back in the next one" is giving us false hopes. I pray he was saying the latter.

[The Original Bamfer]

Not to single you out Bam, but thats the key phrase in all our replies, what we think. :( :(


What we think may not happen..:( :( :mad:

I 100% agree

[gap5ewl]

im surprised people are still convinced he dies and will never be heard from again. this is x-men for god's sake no one stays dead in this series.

[PWN3R]

Thats a NICE avy gap! :eek:

[DarknessOfDeath]

better than ... that other you had, Gap... of the cleavage... :p I found myself staring at ur avvy a few times... lol

[Specter313]

Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself.

Amazing that so many are ignoring this part as well. Cyke can't really evolve if he bites it quickly, now can he.

[gap5ewl]

Thats a NICE avy gap! :eek:
thanks! i think its awesome to. complimence to angamb and mr lex luthor :up:

[gap5ewl]

better than ... that other you had, Gap... of the cleavage... :p I found myself staring at ur avvy a few times... lol
hahaha good times...;)

[PWN3R]

Amazing that so many are ignoring this part as well. Cyke can't really evolve if he bites it quickly, now can he.


Yeah I didn't see that till second reading. AHH its so confusing....does he or does he not die! :confused: :confused: :eek:

[XUniverse]

Ratner has never been shy about sharing how most of the movie is based on the history of the comic books. Especially when he hints to the facts of the danger room or sentinels. I just feel that Ratner will use a portion of the comics to enhance each character especially Cyclops. In the comic book world jean dies from committing suicide which causes Cyclops to leave the X-Men and not returning until they have to battle Magneto in an outrageous battle.. We get a glimpse of that same story line in X-men 2. So heres to Cyclops showing up somewhere else in X-Men 3 I surely believe he will. Cyclops could have his own movie if he wanted to...I also think Sinister is in this movie...heck Sinister raised cyclops way before Xavier.....just wishful thinking....I cant wait to see this movie!!!!!!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)

[gap5ewl]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)
yes i love this idea! hell lets just make a thread for that if it happens!

[XUniverse]

If he is only at the beginning of the movie and thats it...after seeing the movie I will never post again...

[gap5ewl]

If he is only at the beginning of the movie and thats it...after seeing the movie I will never post again...
ohh yeah well i gotta tell you something than.............................................. .................................................. ............





















2,000 posts! woot to the woot!












BTW, dont worry im very confident we'll be hearing from him again towards the end of the movie

[LastSunrise1981]

If he is only at the beginning of the movie and thats it...after seeing the movie I will never post again...

You can post here. I don't want people to stop posting by admitting they were wrong.

I just want those who were so hardcore and so sure that Cyclops dies in the beginning to come back, admit they were wrong, and don't dance around it if he lives through the beginning and shows up at the end.

Now if Cyke dies then I'll admit that I was wrong and I'll still post.

BUT, I have a feeling, and it's a very strong feeling. I have a feeling that he'll live and we're all in for a big surprise.

[cyke93]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)


believe me if that happens, i will def. go here first and admit it ! i love the x-men movies but ive learned my lesson when it comes to cyclops..in x1 it was all about wolverine and they didnt so much as let cyclops and jean kiss or show they actually had a relationship. i was hopeful in x2, but was shocked and disgusted when he was cut from the whole middle part of the movie .. n now with x3.. and with james marsden on superman and singer not on board.. i dunno.. id rather accept his "Death" now than curse my *** during the movie at least this way it'll allow me to enjoy seeing other characters like angel and beast

[ShadowBoxing]

I admire Bamfer's optimism but we have seen the AICN script and we have seen the screenshots that match up with what they gave us in the trailer and press release photos....I don't see any reason to doubt this anymore other than maybe to delude ourselves

[cyke93]

If he is only at the beginning of the movie and thats it...after seeing the movie I will never post again...

i will do the opposite.. i will come in and let everything off my chest.. i would do it now.. but ill save the anger for after the movie is released. as an x-men fan, i know i am going to enjoy it.. as a cyclops fan, i'm expecting a BIIIGGGGG let down.

[the_scream]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)

I have no problem admitting IF I was wrong. So long as all those people who came up with far-fetched conspiracy theories about how/why Cyclops will live will do the same. Yeah, I'm looking at all of you who keep posting that pic with a blurry image of a 2D Cyclops in the background! :up: :)

[WorthyStevens]

Searching in Simon archived answers psylocke comment i reread that one about the possibility of the original Xmen team(from the comic) together and i find it very interesting :

I have a feeling, and I hope it's true as I think it would be the ultimate nod to the fans, is that this secret scene (a scene which according to Simon, we know will be the secret scene when we see it) will involve the Original Five. And the scene is supposedly not in the script either.

[cyke93]

i got this from x3movie.net or xmenfilms.net.. questions answered by director Brett Ratner


Question 11: There has been an obvious concern among fans of Cyclops after rumors spread about his possible death. How do you react to the fans worries and these rumors? Do you have any words for the concerned? (Asked by: Original Bamfer)

A: As for rumors about Cyclops' death in the film, that would be a spoiler and I cannot comment on that. You'll just have to wait to see the movie. I get this question a lot, and death is relative in the X-Men universe.

Nothing is forever in the Marvel world. At the end of the last X-Men, from what I saw, Jean Grey had died. But she happened to be back on the set on the first day of shooting "X-Men: The Last Stand", so you never know...

[vanillacyke]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)

Uhhhh speaking for the "worriers" We are all hoping were wrong. Why the hell would anybody think our worries would cause us to wanna be right :confused:. Thats like a man who's told he might have cancer and worries that he's gonna have it untill he's finally told that he has it, And is then pleased by finding out he has cancer. :confused:

[cyke93]

i only looked through it to look at cyclops related information.. i dont want to see anything else.. but here is the only other time cyclops is mentioned

Question 2: So this is the final act for many of the mutant characters we've come to know and love since 2000's X-MEN. In your opinion, how have each of the characters evolved since the first film? Take us through a run-down of the characters you want to discuss, if possible. (Asked by: Anthony)
A: For me, these movies begin and end with character. All the characters evolve over the span of the trilogy, so I'll just pick a few to focus on. Wolverine probably has the biggest arc from first to last movie. He goes from being a loner to being a leader, and he becomes more human in the process.
Rogue's struggle with her powers finally gets resolved in our film. Jean obviously transforms from the mild-mannered Dr. Grey of X1 to the Dark Phoenix of X3. In the first film, she is totally in control of herself and her powers. In X2, she starts to lose control. In X3, she finally snaps, spiraling out of control.
Storm's politics become more radical over the three films, and she becomes more a powerful leader. Likewise, Bobby really evolves, becoming more empowered and mature over the three films. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself.

[LastSunrise1981]

Uhhhh speaking for the "worriers" We are all hoping were wrong. Why the hell would anybody think our worries would cause us to wanna be right :confused:. Thats like a man who's told he might have cancer and worries that he's gonna have it untill he's finally told that he has it, And is then pleased by finding out he has cancer. :confused:

Let me explain.

There were those who logged in to this thread and would say, "This movie is gonna suck. Cyclops will die in the first fifteen minutes, and I will be here to rub it in your face when it happens."

There were those who were so sure, so adamant, and felt they were 100% correct when it came to Cyclops being killed off. Those are the ones who need to sign on IF he lives and admit they were wrong.

Hell if he dies in the first 15 minutes, I definitely won't like it, but I'll come on here and admit that I was wrong about my prediction. But this mainly goes to the ones who bashed the film, bashed Ratner, and believe all of the rumors as if they were 100% fact.

[WorthyStevens]

Let me explain.

There were those who logged in to this thread and would say, "This movie is gonna suck. Cyclops will die in the first fifteen minutes, and I will be here to rub it in your face when it happens."

There were those who were so sure, so adamant, and felt they were 100% correct when it came to Cyclops being killed off. Those are the ones who need to sign on IF he lives and admit they were wrong.

Hell if he dies in the first 15 minutes, I definitely won't like it, but I'll come on here and admit that I was wrong about my prediction. But this mainly goes to the ones who bashed the film, bashed Ratner, and believe all of the rumors as if they were 100% fact.


Exactly. Hell, if I'm wrong about believing Cyclops will live, I'll come on here and admit I was wrong also.

But, what some of us are trying to get out is that...

*drumroll please*















We won't know for sure if he lives or dies until the movie comes out. ;)

[cyke93]

Storm's politics huh? .. more like halle? .. she really shud've just made a cameo in x3 .. or have a different actress play her. going into x1, halle was the only real big name.. and then she won her oscar so she doesnt need this.. hugh jackman on the other hand, x-men made him a star so he would gladly do x-men .. much like most of the other actors... but that sort of politics is always up for debate..

but the whole powerful leader thing.. she's a powerful mutant.. they should've made cyclops the powerful leader .. from the films, would you guess cyclops was the leader? nope..

[JustABill]

Oh great, the Storm vs Cykes debate starts again.

[WorthyStevens]

Storm's politics huh? .. more like halle? .. she really shud've just made a cameo in x3 .. or have a different actress play her. going into x1, halle was the only real big name.. and then she won her oscar so she doesnt need this.. hugh jackman on the other hand, x-men made him a star so he would gladly do x-men .. much like most of the other actors... but that sort of politics is always up for debate..

but the whole powerful leader thing.. she's a powerful mutant.. they should've made cyclops the powerful leader .. from the films, would you guess cyclops was the leader? nope..


Let's not get into that. ;)

As much as I know Scott deserves to be the powerful leader he truly is, let's not bring Storm into this, as she deserves to be shown as goddess-like as she really is.

[cyke93]

Ratner mentions:

"Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself."

is anyone else reading this as.. yeah these are the one's thats gonna die.

makes sense when you think about it.. xavier is leader of the good guys.. magneto the bad guys.. its the classic both sides lose something and realize to let everything go and come together... if they want this to be the last x-men movie, wouldn't this be a good way for the mutants to at least unite ..cyclops though.. they just needed to get him out of there asap so they kill him in the 1st 15-20 minutes

[WorthyStevens]

Ratner mentions:

"Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, and others also evolve, which you'll see for yourself."

is anyone else reading this as.. yeah these are the one's thats gonna die.

makes sense when you think about it.. xavier is leader of the good guys.. magneto the bad guys.. its the classic both sides lose something and realize to let everything go and come together... cyclops though.. they just needed to get him out of their asap so they kill him in the 1st 15-20 minutes

Maybe so, but at least they would have the screentime to evolve before they would bite it.

So to say Cyke gets killed off in the first 15-25 minutes doesn't give him a whole lot of time to evolve.

^ Which is another reason that I think he'll live.

[LastSunrise1981]

Storm's politics huh? .. more like halle? .. she really shud've just made a cameo in x3 .. or have a different actress play her. going into x1, halle was the only real big name.. and then she won her oscar so she doesnt need this.. hugh jackman on the other hand, x-men made him a star so he would gladly do x-men .. much like most of the other actors... but that sort of politics is always up for debate..

but the whole powerful leader thing.. she's a powerful mutant.. they should've made cyclops the powerful leader .. from the films, would you guess cyclops was the leader? nope..

Storm has always been a leader and Cyclops too. Watch the first X-Men film and you see Scott asserting himself as the Field Leader.

As I said. Wait for May 26th and form your own conclusion.

Below are examples of Cyclops asserting himself and being the Cyclops from the comics/animated series.

Wolverine- You going to tell me to stay away from your girl?

Cyclops- Well if I had to say that she wouldn't be my girl.

Wolverine- Well I guess you have nothing worry about then, Cyclops.

Cyclops- Must eat you up inside that a little boy like me saved your life. Be careful, might not be there next time.

Wolverine- ::goes to turn is back::

Cyclops- Oh and Logan. Stay away from my girl.--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Xavier- Get Logan a uniform.

Cyclops- what he's not coming with us is he? I'm sorry professor he could jeporadize the mission.

Wolverine- I'm not the one that gave the station a new sun roof.

Cyclops- No, you're the one who stabbed Rogue.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Those are just a few examples.

[PWN3R]

I just love this thread I really do, it makes me feel so happy....;)

[cyke93]

Maybe so, but at least they would have the screentime to evolve before they would bite it.

So, to say Cyke evolves contradicts the fact that he'd be killed off in the first 15-25 minutes.

^ Which is another reason that I think he'll live.

i thought that too but as far as cyclops is concerned, in x1 he was the straight edged scout's boy classic cyclops. in x2, you see him suffer the loss of jean at the end... and from the little promo we have of him.. he's upset jean's dead, he goes a little rugged not so straight edged.. he goes to the lake, which people probably told him that it was not a good idea .. since he's lost someone he loves he rebels a little bit.. that's an evolution of his character.. doesn't mean you get to see it for the whole movie.. he bites the big one and there das it .. this could be accomplished within 20 minutes of the film

people have commented about how rugged he looks in the few promo pics.. i mean just look back at some of the shots of him in x1 and x2.

[LastSunrise1981]

i thought that too but as far as cyclops is concerned, in x1 he was the straight edged scout's boy classic cyclops. in x2, you see him suffer the loss of jean at the end... and from the little promo we have of him.. he's upset jean's dead, he goes a little rugged not so straight edged.. he goes to the lake, which people probably told him that it was not a good idea .. since he's lost someone he loves he rebels a little bit.. that's an evolution of his character.. doesn't mean you get to see it for the whole movie.. he bites the big one and there das it .. this could be accomplished within 20 minutes of the film

You don't know that for a fact. None of us knows what will happen, which is why I say wait for May 26th and see for yourself.

[LEX]

I just love this thread I really do, it makes me feel so happy....;)
Hey, where's your "I hate Kanye West"? :ghost:

[LastSunrise1981]

Mr. Lex Luthor, where is your avatar from?

[PWN3R]

Hey, where's your "I hate Kanye West"? :ghost:

I am saving it for my next sig. ;)

I really need to say more about what a loser he is....:down


:D

[cyke93]

You don't know that for a fact. None of us knows what will happen, which is why I say wait for May 26th and see for yourself.

that is true.. WE ALL DON"T KNOW ANYTHING FOR A FACT, until may 26 or if someone sees an earlier screening .. so all we have is speculation, does he die or not.. and with what little information we have about the film, people can make assumptions wether this is a hint that he does live/die

[The Guard]

As with most comments on the subject that we've heard, Ratner's comments reveal only this: "Cyclops may or may not die". Nothing more, nothing less. That's not news. Nor is it proof, either way. Why are some of you so unwilling to wait to see the film to see everything that is in it?

[vanillacyke]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Xavier- Get Logan a uniform.

Cyclops- what he's not coming with us is he? I'm sorry professor he could jeporadize the mission.

Wolverine- I'm not the one that gave the station a new sun roof.

Cyclops- No, you're the one who stabbed Rogue.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


BOOH-YA!!!! Eat THAT logan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

As with most comments on the subject that we've heard, Ratner's comments reveal only this: "Cyclops may or may not die". Nothing more, nothing less. That's not news. Nor is it proof, either way. Why are some of you so unwilling to wait to see the film to see everything that is in it?

I think your signature gives the answer Guard. :)

[WorthyStevens]

As with most comments on the subject that we've heard, Ratner's comments reveal only this: "Cyclops may or may not die". Nothing more, nothing less. That's not news. Nor is it proof, either way. Why are some of you so unwilling to wait to see the film to see everything that is in it?

Welcome to the Superhero Hype forums! :p ;)

[tonytr1687]

You don't know that for a fact. None of us knows what will happen, which is why I say wait for May 26th and see for yourself.

I think what Cyke is saying is that Ratner could have meant "Scott going from a straight-laced guy to a rugged rebel" was the character evolution he was speaking of when he mentioned that Cyclops evolves.

[PWN3R]

I think your signature gives the answer Guard. :)


I think that, in my opinion, your sig gives the answer Guard. ;) :D

[cyke93]

I think your signature gives the answer Guard. :)

lol true.. if we all agreed to wait and see.. then there'd be nothing to talk about here.. haha with the internet, speculation is now half the movie experience.

i got into star wars during Episode II and did the whole bit forum thing ands talked about it endlessly before and after the movie came out.. when episode 3 came out, i avoided all the fanboys cuz i wanted to be surprised..

i normally would not view or read or even watch the trailers for x3 but when i heard about this cyclops thing i had to go in .. but the movie to me is so far a mystery, which is a relief.

[cyke93]

I think what Cyke is saying is that Ratner could have meant "Scott going from a straight-laced guy to a rugged rebel" was the character evolution he was speaking of when he mentioned that Cyclops evolves.

yep basically.. here just look at cyclops through the 3 films

x1

http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3603_08949_thumb.jpg .. very eddie bauer

x2

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo14.jpg .. shopped at express for mens

x3
http://z.about.com/d/actionadventure/1/0/w/V/cyclops.jpg .. went to hollister..

hehe

[LastSunrise1981]

I think that, in my opinion, your sig gives the answer Guard. ;) :D

Good point. I didn't think about that. :xmen: :cyclops: :up:

[Kurosawa]

Here's what I propose to those who are worried about Cyclops. IF Cyclops lives through the first act and the entire movie, I want those who believed all the rumors and whined about it to be the first to come on here and admit they were wrong.

:)

If Cyke actually makes it I'll be more than happy to eat all the crow that I would deserve to eat.

[PWN3R]

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo31.jpg


MAN! I want these pants...:(

[LEX]

^They're ugly. Why would you want them? :p

[cyke93]

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo31.jpg


MAN! I want these pants...:(


i believe that was a throwback to this:

http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg
http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/cgi-bin/i/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg
cyclops during the 60's.. like talking about issue#1 in 1963. although the picture above was published during the mid 90's

[PWN3R]

^They're ugly. Why would you want them? :p

No lie, I'd so wear those. They are groovy. :D

[WorthyStevens]

^They're ugly. Why would you want them? :p

BLASPHEMY! :mad:

They're perfect. I'd wear them. :p ;)

:p

[PWN3R]

Hey! I really do like them. :D

[CeeJay]

Why would you want those pants? They look like something a bowling grandpa would wear, bro. Haha. They're aight, but ... nah, actually they really are bad aye.

[cyke93]

i actually do have pants like those .. khaki colored with very light blue pinstripes (not plaid like how it is in the pic) .. when i saw them i actually thought of cyclops ..lol

[jusblaze21]

The pants in the comic are ugly, But the one's from the movie I like, I'd wear them and I would take pride in doing so.

[WorthyStevens]

I would wear them too. :D

Not kidding, I would.

[ShadowBoxing]

I would wear them too. :D

Not kidding, I would.
I always sport the Cyclops look :D
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8843/n2830136842763ix.jpg

[LEX]

I don't like the colour green. It looks puke. :O

[FieryBalrog]

i believe that was a throwback to this:

http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg
http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/cgi-bin/i/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg
cyclops during the 60's.. like talking about issue#1 in 1963. although the picture above was published during the mid 90's

I posed a scan from issue 1 a few pages back. Here it is:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1183/cyclopspants1eh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[LEX]

^Thanks for posting. Never seen it before.

[JustABill]

I always hated that..Xavier just does not seem right calling Scott, ''Slim".

[migs]

so apparantly, baseed on his pants selection, cyclops is an avid golfer. neat

[Optic Rage]

There was a whole ''thing'' about those pants when x2 was released right?

[demented]

Ah. Those famous green pants.

We had a fantastic time discussing Scott and his wonderful pants collection in the Original Cyclops Slurpy. :D

[JustABill]

Yep, I wasn't here, of course, but I remember hearing about the legendary pants of Scott Summers.

Haha. That almost sounded sexual.

[Halcohol]

Do you think it's part of Stan Lee's plan to have Cyclops look unnatural in human clothes?

Granted, the pants from X2 weren't QUITE as bad as the comic panels, but still... damn, dude.

[Optic Rage]

After reading over the past few pages on this thread....i really dont know how worthey does it.

[Harlekin]

Do you think it's part of Stan Lee's plan to have Cyclops look unnatural in human clothes?

Granted, the pants from X2 weren't QUITE as bad as the comic panels, but still... damn, dude.
Yeah, it was to show his awkwardness.

[Halcohol]

Awkwardness? He's supposed to be the leader!

[Optic Rage]

His social awkardness....not in the field.

[Halcohol]

No, I understand, it's just strange to me that the hard-ass straight-laced leader would be such a goof... I never really thought of the X-Men as living double lives, that they were who they were all the time.

[peteapan]

No, I understand, it's just strange to me that the hard-ass straight-laced leader would be such a goof... I never really thought of the X-Men as living double lives, that they were who they were all the time.

It makes him seem so much better when he is kicking ass in the field. If they eliminate Cyke in this film which in my opinion Ratners answers suggest they will (with a possible return in later movies) then they lose a character to whom so many can relate. Not everyone loves the hard ass tough guy who comes in with his rebellious stubble, cigar in mouth looking cool. In life thats the kinda guy i dislike more than anything, the guy who struts in and pushes around someone cos he doesnt think they are as cool/hard as him, I mean look at their first meeting in Xaviers office in X1. I cant relate to that, and if Wolvy takes over as a leader, which is confirmed, but without cyclops around too, then personally and for a lot of others too im sure it will be like being forced into liking a character, and losing a lot of the relation to the film

[Iceman]

I prefer the Cyke types in real life as well but the reason that Wolvie will become liked in the films is that he has changed his natural way due to the responsibilities he has accepted. I don't think he would be that popular if he continued in the same vein as early X1 and told Xavier & Storm to get lost before the final battle.

[peteapan]

I prefer the Cyke types in real life as well but the reason that Wolvie will become liked in the films is that he has changed his natural way due to the responsibilities he has accepted. I don't think he would be that popular if he continued in the same vein as early X1 and told Xavier & Storm to get lost before the final battle.

He shouldnt have had to change to such an extent as he has, the film is supposed to be team based yet he has filled just about every character type possible. He and Cyclops are supposed to be very different characters, yet in the next film and to some degree in the last he pretty much took over from Cyke. Its like he has lost every aspect of that loan outsider he is supposed to be. Watching the films however as a comic fan I still see him as the character from the comics and will always have more sympathy and love for the cyclops character

[Halcohol]

True, but part of the appeal of Wolverine in the comics was he still had that badass attitude, without really being a leader. He just went and... did what Wolverine does.

Granted, he always took orders from Cyclops in the comics, but that was because Cyclops knew to pretty much put Wolverine in the heat of things and let him loose. (Cyke is kind of like that boss you have who doesn't try to micromanage, he knows that you know what you're doing, so he lets you do it).

Wolverine just never really seemed like a good leader to me, not because I don't think that he cares about his teammates, but because he's the person most comfortable on the front lines, when the leader should have a good viewpoint of the battle as a whole.

[Iceman]

He shouldnt have had to change to such an extent as he has, the film is supposed to be team based yet he has filled just about every character type possible. He and Cyclops are supposed to be very different characters, yet in the next film and to some degree in the last he pretty much took over from Cyke. Its like he has lost every aspect of that loan outsider he is supposed to be. Watching the films however as a comic fan I still see him as the character from the comics and will always have more sympathy and love for the cyclops character

Even in the comics Wolverine, despite being the ultimate rebel with no repsect for authority, is fiercely loyal and will always back his friends when it counts. If this requires him taking on leadership duties in the absence of other experienced members, I'm sure comics Wolverine would do so. It's just a shame that Cyke didn't get an equal chance to show what a great character he can be.

[Halcohol]

Even in the comics Wolverine, despite being the ultimate rebel with no repsect for authority, is fiercely loyal and will always back his friends when it counts. If this requires him taking on leadership duties in the absence of other experienced members, I'm sure comics Wolverine would do so. It's just a shame that Cyke didn't get an equal chance to show what a great character he can be.
The preceding post shall hereby be known as the Cyclops fans' lament.

True dat, as they say :p

[peteapan]

Even in the comics Wolverine, despite being the ultimate rebel with no repsect for authority, is fiercely loyal and will always back his friends when it counts. If this requires him taking on leadership duties in the absence of other experienced members, I'm sure comics Wolverine would do so. It's just a shame that Cyke didn't get an equal chance to show what a great character he can be.

I agree with him being loyal, and yeh he probably would take control if called upon. But these are the first three Xmen movies ever. They should reflect the characters as they are in the books as best they can, we shouldnt be seeing a leading wolverine when they havent even established the opposite forces that Cyke and Wolvy are on the battlefield properly, when we havent properly seen a leading Cyclops properly!

[Iceman]

I agree with him being loyal, and yeh he probably would take control if called upon. But these are the first three Xmen movies ever. They should reflect the characters as they are in the books as best they can, we shouldnt be seeing a leading wolverine when they havent even established the opposite forces that Cyke and Wolvy are on the battlefield properly, when we havent properly seen a leading Cyclops properly!

True except Cyke did have a brief moment of glory in the end of X1 Brotherhood clash. Cyke issuing the orders and cursing when Wolvie runs off in the middle of the battle was a good moment. However, this final battle at the end of X3 when everyone is lined up together would have been the perfect opportunity for Cyke to show how good a field leader he is.

[Halcohol]

^Totally. I would've liked to have seen him front & centre. I know it's kind of cliched, but just imagine the Golden Gate Bridge slamming down in front of them and hundreds of mutants leaping off towards them...

"X-Men, stand your ground!"

That'd be a great closing line for the next trailer...

[aaron]

^Totally. I would've liked to have seen him front & centre. I know it's kind of cliched, but just imagine the Golden Gate Bridge slamming down in front of them and hundreds of mutants leaping off towards them...

"X-Men, stand your ground!"

That'd be a great closing line for the next trailer...
i like the sound of that man

[LEX]

^Totally. I would've liked to have seen him front & centre. I know it's kind of cliched, but just imagine the Golden Gate Bridge slamming down in front of them and hundreds of mutants leaping off towards them...

"X-Men, stand your ground!"

That'd be a great closing line for the next trailer...
Sounds a great idea. Just reading that sends me excitement down my spine. Let's hope that Cykes actually speaks in the trailer. :up:

[Halcohol]

Sounds a great idea. Just reading that sends me excitement down my spine. Let's hope that Cykes actually speaks in the trailer. :up:
^As opposed to getting knocked on his ass? :D

Personally, I would've liked to have seen Cyclops giving Bobby the whole "You go to war, you might not come home" speech

Probably mean a little bit more coming from their leader, the man who just lost the love of his life

[aaron]

i aint bothered bout him speakin in the trailer, adds to foxs tricks on makin us think bout scotts fate...jus hopin dude gets dialogue in the actual film

[Daniella]

http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg

Cyke needs to choose his clothes better... :D

Dany

[conan69]

If Cylops doesnt die Ill be more than happy to come here and say "I was wrong"

If you want some sort of hope... we all know Xavier dies int he next film, but here he talks abotu loving to do a fourth...

http://trekweb.com/stories.php?aid=441f0bc9c18cf

[Maze]

http://membres.lycos.fr/thalys/thanos/xmen/gal/XMen22.jpg

i would love to hear him say that in that scene Halcohol!

[Daniella]

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo31.jpg

GREEN PANTS !!!

THS PIC MADE MY DAY...

Dany

[Hugh'sMrs]

^As opposed to getting knocked on his ass? :D

Personally, I would've liked to have seen Cyclops giving Bobby the whole "You go to war, you might not come home" speech

Probably mean a little bit more coming from their leader, the man who just lost the love of his life

I agree. That should've come from Scott (and said with bitterness)

[Bastila]

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo31.jpg

GREEN PANTS !!!

THS PIC MADE MY DAY...

Dany

He looks hot till you see those horrible trouses lol.

[DarknessOfDeath]

http://jamesmarsden.330.ca/gallery/movies/xmen2/xpromo31.jpg

GREEN PANTS !!!

THS PIC MADE MY DAY...

Dany

Im not gay but that pic of Cykes made my day... I think he looks handsome with his hands glued to his hips. Nice pants... reminds me of that other pic of him where it looks like he peed his pants and Jean got all mad. "Not infront of the children!!" then she goes into Dark Phoenix mode... :p heh. I love you Cykes!! :p but not in a gay kind of way. lol dude. :p okay. Im done.

[Iceman]

http://www.bloodredrose.50megs.com/gallery/sctjn/door.jpg

Cyke needs to choose his clothes better... :D

Dany

Those trousers are a disgrace :eek:

;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

what the hell ... LOL... he could be a circus freak for all I care! hehhehe. My circus freak! :p

But yeah...he needs to choose his clothes better...

[jcykeson]

i guess with only red as the color he sees, maybe he isn't that good in color-coordinating, lol!

[DarknessOfDeath]

i guess with only red as the color he sees, maybe he isn't that good in color-coordinating, lol!

Funny since u mentioned that. haha...

"Uh Jean...what do you think of this pair of black underwear?"
"um...Scott, those are red silk panties..." -chuckles-
-tosses them aside, snickering-

[terry78]

Jean: Scott, your wardrobe is just...well...I think it's time for a change.


"Things just keep gettin' betta!!!"

*cue Queer Eye guys slow mo walk towards Scott*

[vanillacyke]

*cue Queer Eye guys slow mo walk towards Scott*


AHHHHHH, No no no no

*cue the removal of Cyclops' visor and the destruction of the Queer Eye guys*

[Kira]

Carson, NOOOOOOOOO!!!




:D

[taintedFB]

Ha! That's funny. I think that is is just a character quirk, his bad fashion sense, all preppy like that. It also makes him the opposite of Logan.

I think he'll be a lot cooler in this movie and I am counting down the days. I love that XVerse, has a countdown clock on their site. The movie will be here soon....

[taintedFB]

BTW - I still think the way they are leading us on about Scott's death is very telling...

Telling us that he isn't REALLY dead, but for a while everyone will think so...

[JokerNick]

BTW - I still think the way they are leading us on about Scott's death is very telling...

Telling us that he isn't REALLY dead, but for a while everyone will think so...

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/583/cyke0rg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

nope, he dies................ dead as a door nail...........

[taintedFB]

Funny, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY... again all speculation, but why would they give it away if it were true.

I think if he was dying, they would show him alot and in uniform in trailers so that it shocks us when it DOES happen. Besides the writers and director are X-Men fans. They know the importance of the character more than Singer and his writers.

[JokerNick]

Funny, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY... again all speculation, but why would they give it away if it were true.

I think if he was dying, they would show him alot and in uniform in trailers so that it shocks us when it DOES happen. Besides the writers and director are X-Men fans. They know the importance of the character more than Singer and his writers.

I think making a qaulity trailer is there top priority, not fooling us fan boys......... I'm willing to bet anything that cyke dies......... after Ratners statement, you can tell that he knows that we knows cyke dies, he's just trying to give us hope that he may be back in a future movie, if there is one........

[CapBeerCino]

I think making a qaulity trailer is there top priority, not fooling us fan boys.........

:( The thing is they have no reason to fool us. If they had a reason I believe they might. But what would they gain by making us think Cyke's dead?

[JokerNick]

:( The thing is they have no reason to fool us. If they had a reason I believe they might. But what would they gain by making us think Cyke's dead?


think about it like this, this issue of cyke really only effects fanboys right now, what would be the purpose of making think he dies if he doesn't???????? there is no reason, all they would be doing is pissing off dedicated fans...... bad marketing if you ask me, cyke dies, there is no cover up, Fox is not trying to fool us.... everyone in here who thinks he lives is in freaking denial, and it's kind of sad...... "FOX IS TRYING TO TRICK US", and crap like that being said is sad, these people have a business to run, and last time I checked, tricking fanboys (about 10% of the people who see this movie) wasn't a top prioritie, and do you notice how they won't say wether he dies or not, of course they are not going to say he dies, that would spoil the movie for many people and really piss of the cyclops fans, and the do not want to deture anyone from seeing this movie, even if the cyclops fans equal 2% of the movie audience, all they keep on saying is "we did the most we could do with his schedule" sounds like they are apologizing, if he really did live and we asked them a question regarding cyckes fate, don't you think they would say "cyke fans will be very happy, he has a great role in this film" instead it sounds like they are appologizing ahead of time.... the oly instructions Fox employees have regarding X3 is, "don't spoil the movie, be very vague, but hype it up" not "don't tell those fan boys cyke lives, we want to keep them guessing and arguing untill this movie opens up"................ it's time to accept, stop over analyzing pictures, and disecting what execs say......

[Maze]

:( The thing is they have no reason to fool us. If they had a reason I believe they might. But what would they gain by making us think Cyke's dead?

they have nothing to gain in making us believe that is going to die.
If he was going to die , don't you think that they would try to make us think that he is going to ?

[Jan Irisi]

:( The thing is they have no reason to fool us. If they had a reason I believe they might. But what would they gain by making us think Cyke's dead?

How are they tricking anyone? Methinks people may well be tricking themsleves.

[GothicPowerMix1]

The thing is they have no reason to fool us

They did with X2

[The Original Bamfer]

:confused:



Ohhhh.... :p

[DarknessOfDeath]

oh shoot... I forgot to edit that one... yikes. I meant to say but "not" in a gay kind of way! lol :p

I tend to leave out words in a sentence ...gah.. i hate that.

[Aiden]

Did he just say the G word.

*runs for cover*

[Halcohol]

^Kind of an important distinction, doncha think? ;)

[JokerNick]

DarknessOfDeath
Im not gay but that pic of Cykes made my day... I think he looks handsome with his hands glued to his hips. Nice pants... reminds me of that other pic of him where it looks like he peed his pants and Jean got all mad. "Not infront of the children!!" then she goes into Dark Phoenix mode... :p heh. I love you Cykes!! :p but in a gay kind of way. lol dude. :p okay. Im done.




that is funny........ I may have found my singniture for these boards

[DarknessOfDeath]

I am not Gay! I am Bi. Alright? Im 99% Straight!!! Does that clear it up for you?

[Maze]

Funny, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY... again all speculation, but why would they give it away if it were true.

I think if he was dying, they would show him alot and in uniform in trailers so that it shocks us when it DOES happen. Besides the writers and director are X-Men fans. They know the importance of the character more than Singer and his writers.

Exactly , i know a lot of non fanboys (i work in a mall )who just can't believe that cyke got the shaft again.(from the trailer) and when you discuss with the about the rumors of death they hate that idea..

And, they are not even fan of the character ,but they just hate it.

I call that the Rocky syndrome ;)

[lordofthenerds]

that is funny........ I may have found my singniture for these boards
:eek: Your going to put the G word in your signature?! Its worse than saying c**t and f**k around here.

[CapBeerCino]

think about it like this, this issue of cyke really only effects fanboys right now, what would be the purpose of making think he dies if he doesn't???????? there is no reason, all they would be doing is pissing off dedicated fans...... bad marketing if you ask me, cyke dies, there is no cover up, Fox is not trying to fool us.... everyone in here who thinks he lives is in freaking denial, and it's kind of sad...... "FOX IS TRYING TO TRICK US", and crap like that being said is sad, these people have a business to run, and last time I checked, tricking fanboys (about 10% of the people who see this movie) wasn't a top prioritie, and do you notice how they won't say wether he dies or not, of course they are not going to say he dies, that would spoil the movie for many people and really piss of the cyclops fans, and the do not want to deture anyone from seeing this movie, even if the cyclops fans equal 2% of the movie audience, all they keep on saying is "we did the most we could do with his schedule" sounds like they are apologizing, if he really did live and we asked them a question regarding cyckes fate, don't you think they would say "cyke fans will be very happy, he has a great role in this film" instead it sounds like they are appologizing ahead of time.... the oly instructions Fox employees have regarding X3 is, "don't spoil the movie, be very vague, but hype it up" not "don't tell those fan boys cyke lives, we want to keep them guessing and arguing untill this movie opens up"................ it's time to accept, stop over analyzing pictures, and disecting what execs say......

I know what you mean. "the Pheonix will blow your mind" vs. "we hope fans wont be disappointed with Cyclops" kinda thing.

they have nothing to gain in making us believe that is going to die.
If he was going to die , don't you think that they would try to make us think that he is going to ?

At the risk of sounding stupid, I read your statement 3 times and I still dont get it :confused:

[The Original Bamfer]

I am not Gay! I am Bi. Alright? Im 99% Straight!!! Does that clear it up for you?

Nah, everyman is at least 1% gay... :p

[lordofthenerds]

At the risk of sounding stupid, I read your statement 3 times and I still dont get it :confused:
Your not alone. :confused:

[JokerNick]

I know what you mean. "the Pheonix will blow your mind" vs. "we hope fans wont be disappointed with Cyclops" kinda thing.



At the risk of sounding stupid, I read your statement 3 times and I still dont get it :confused:


even during the question session with Ratner, his statement about how people come back to life in the X-Men univererse, I used that same statement with my Ex GF, "just cause we aren't together right now doesn't mean there's not a chance of it happening again".......... I ask anyone out there, what is your proof that cycke doesn't die and it better not be a promo shot or some blurry pic of a camera guy........ that doesn't count........all the evidence right now points to his demise

[Maze]

lol no it is me , i am a little tired and french :D

i mean :If he was going to die , they would try to make us think that it's not the case..

that's how you surprise people ;)

[Halcohol]

Nah, everyman is at least 1% gay... :p
That's the 1% that causes a man to look in the mirror, flex, and think "DAYUM! I look good!" ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

... okay. lol Are we done here?

[CapBeerCino]

lol no it is me , i am a little tired and french :D

i mean :If he was going to die , they would try to make us think that it's not the case..

that's how you do drama ;)

Makes more sense now. Who knows? Maybe it's Wolverine that will bite the dust at the end?

[CapBeerCino]

that's how you surprise people ;)

Lol- how many times did you change that line?

[Maze]

Makes more sense now. Who knows? Maybe it's Wolverine that will bite the dust at the end?

Well , i have my doubts BUT that would be surprising ....(And that's a rumor , i heard month ago)Jackman said that it is his last film ,that wolverine will be a prequel..and imo ,that would close nicely his character arc ..

So,who knows?

[Maze]

Lol- how many times did you change that line?
Lol sorry :o ;)

[vanillacyke]

I love you Cykes!! :p but in a gay kind of way. lol dude. :p okay. Im done.

:eek: that's gross dude. lol

[The Original Bamfer]

Well , i have my doubts BUT that would be surprising Jackman say that it is his las film ..that wolverine will be a prequel..that would close nicely his character arc ..(And that's a rumor that i heard month ago)who knows?

:confused:


:p You rock, man...

[JokerNick]

Makes more sense now. Who knows? Maybe it's Wolverine that will bite the dust at the end?

cyke will die towards the beginning, it will make the Pheonix more impactful, "Jean Grey killed her BF!!!!, she's a monster out of contol, if she can kill him, she will kill anyone!!" that's what they are going for with the pheonix, cykes role is to set up how evil the pheonix is, so what Ratner and all them said was true, his role is very influencal to the plot of this movie,

plus all cykes character was was a third party in the love triangle, everyone who saw the film and knew nothing the x-universe didn't like him, they wanted Jean and Logan together, he was the pretty boy prep that people don't like, they want the rough and tough guy with a heart of gold (how logan's portrayed) to win the girl, I guarentee... I'll say it again, I GUARENTEE that jean will confess that she is in love with Logan before the movie ends!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm willing to put money on it..............

[Maze]

:confused:


:p You rock, man...
Lol!

that was even more confusing this time?lol

where is my dictionnary again?:o

[DarknessOfDeath]

Dude!! Please.. come on. I messed up. Its a typo. lol I LOVE JEAN/FAMKE EVEN MORE!!!

[Maze]

cyke will die towards the beginning, .....
We understood the first time, you know ;)

that's your opinion , and that's ok.

Now, don't pass that as a fact..that's how things did go out of control on this topic some time ago..

[vanillacyke]

I'll never let you live this down Darkness!!!! NEVER!!!!!!! ;)

[CapBeerCino]

I'll say it again, I GUARENTEE that jean will confess that she is in love with Logan before the movie ends!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm willing to put money on it..............

And im willing to walk out should it happen. (Besides I love the way Cyke was portraited in x-1)

[The Original Bamfer]

Lol!

that was even more confusing this time?lol

where is my dictionnary again?:o

It wasn't that bad at all ;) :up:

You type english better than I do (And with less typos... :D)

[DarknessOfDeath]

:confused: ... huh?

[Maze]

It wasn't that bad at all ;) :up:

You type english better than I do (And with less typos... :D)
lol you'll pay for that!:D

[DarknessOfDeath]

I am not gay. It was just a typo. a stupid typo. How could I miss that?? :( Gah! Stupid fingers!!! I KILL YOU!! ARGH!! -holds back and sighs-

[The Batman]

cyke will die towards the beginning, it will make the Pheonix more impactful, "Jean Grey killed her BF!!!!, she's a monster out of contol, if she can kill him, she will kill anyone!!" that's what they are going for with the pheonix, cykes role is to set up how evil the pheonix is, so what Ratner and all them said was true, his role is very influencal to the plot of this movie,

plus all cykes character was was a third party in the love triangle, everyone who saw the film and knew nothing the x-universe didn't like him, they wanted Jean and Logan together, he was the pretty boy prep that people don't like, they want the rough and tough guy with a heart of gold (how logan's portrayed) to win the girl, I guarentee... I'll say it again, I GUARENTEE that jean will confess that she is in love with Logan before the movie ends!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm willing to put money on it..............

Damn...the sad part is, he;s probably right. These past few weeks have made it harder for me to think anything other than cyke's death is what will occur...

[JokerNick]

I am not gay. It was just a typo. a stupid typo. How could I miss that?? :( Gah! Stupid fingers!!! I KILL YOU!! ARGH!! -holds back and sighs-


it's okay, I have guy friends that **** guys,...................... in prison..........

[Maze]

Damn...the sad part is, he;s probably right. These past few weeks have made it harder for me to think anything other than cyke's death is what will occur...
Well , if you read me you know that i was in agreement ..untill three days ago.

[JokerNick]

Well , if you read me you know that i was in agreement ..untill three days ago.

well what changed your mind, and don't say that pic of the camera guy..

[CapBeerCino]

Damn...the sad part is, he;s probably right. These past few weeks have made it harder for me to think anything other than cyke's death is what will occur...

:( Yep. The only thing that doesn't fit now is Cyke's pic from "Empire".

[lordofthenerds]

:( Yep. The only thing that doesn't fit now is Cyke's pic from "Empire".
Which is a promo pic...not a film still. So it doesn't really change anything.

[CapBeerCino]

Which is a promo pic...not a film still. So it doesn't really change anything.

So they got James in uniforms just for that pic?

[JokerNick]

:( Yep. The only thing that doesn't fit now is Cyke's pic from "Empire".


don't you think that they had James do that when he wasn't shooting his scenes "Hey James, we got a couple page article in Empire, why don't you throw on this costume and pose for it"

like what was said, it is a promo shot, they are PROMOTING THE MOVIE, nothing more, if they had a shot of cyke fighting against some brotherhood guys, then it would be a diiferent story.........

[JokerNick]

So they got James in uniforms just for that pic?

why not???? if he's on set and not doing much, why not, just make the movie look more compelling......... and I will go as far as saying that they may have had him do it to fool us fan boys, I know I said that fox isn't trying to fool us, but I think in the case of a fan boy magazine, they might...... they had James around, and they figured "what the heck"

[Maze]

well what changed your mind, and don't say that pic of the camera guy..
that changed my mind: (repost)


The synopsis also reveals that Callisto will have the ability to locate and assess the power levels of other mutants, a power very similar to fellow Morlock Caliban's ability in the comic books.

my theory now:


Very interesting imo..

the theory which was saying that Callisto could witness the rising of the phoenix could be true..

my theory: she finds Jean and Cyke , with the help of another mutant(psylocke? ) she makes believe to Jean that she has killed him..

Not saying that this is the truth , but it could be what happen.

[CapBeerCino]

Hmmmm I'm not sure. If that pic is from x-3 (Im one of the few who arent certain) I can't believe he wore the costume only for the pic. (Why have a suit his size and the visor on set when they have no use for them in the movie?)