Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[gambitfire]

OH !!! YEA!!! I TOTALLY AGREE BISHOP2!!! im tired of wolverine. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Gambitfire/cussing.gif

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't think there are any medical treatments for being TOTALLY ATOMIZED.

You or anyone else don't even know if that's what happens to him, so stop assuming and wait till the 26th to see what happens.

I'm tired of people saying he dies/gets vaporized, when they themselves have no clue as to what Cyclops fate is.

And another thing I'm tired of is the hate for Wolverine. I bet half of these people were saying "It'd be kick ass to see Wolverine in a movie and have it focus on him", now that they have him for three films, all of a sudden they're tired of him and feel that he's hogging the movie.

When half of them were more than likely worshipping him in X1 and X2.

[PhoenixRisen]

Just thought I would pass this on...I have a "source" at Fox (naturally I can't mention his/her name) who told me that yes, Cyke lives. Since James Marsden was super busy working in Australia for most of the time X3 was shooting, Fox decided to use another actor to play Cyclops while he is in uniform, figuring that no one will recognize the difference, with his visor covering his eyes and everything...

Anyways, as proof, my source gave me this exclusive production still, showing Cyclops alive in the 2nd act, patiently waiting for Storm to get done using the restroom before they go face off against the Brotherhood...


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/PhoenixRisen7/ohle.jpg

[LastSunrise1981]

Just thought I would pass this on...I have a "source" at Fox (naturally I can't mention his/her name) who told me that yes, Cyke lives. Since James Marsden was super busy working in Australia for most of the time X3 was shooting, Fox decided to use another actor to play Cyclops while he is in uniform, figuring that no one will recognize the difference, with his visor covering his eyes and everything...

Anyways, as proof, my source gave me this exclusive production still, showing Cyclops alive in the 2nd act, patiently waiting for Storm to get done using the restroom before they go face off against the Brotherhood...


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/PhoenixRisen7/ohle.jpg

Hahahaha.

[Bishop2]

You or anyone else don't even know if that's what happens to him, so stop assuming and wait till the 26th to see what happens.

I'm tired of people saying he dies/gets vaporized, when they themselves have no clue as to what Cyclops fate is.

And another thing I'm tired of is the hate for Wolverine. I bet half of these people were saying "It'd be kick ass to see Wolverine in a movie and have it focus on him", now that they have him for three films, all of a sudden they're tired of him and feel that he's hogging the movie.

When half of them were more than likely worshipping him in X1 and X2.

I wasn't worshipping him in X2. I've said my piece on that front - I was very happy with having him central in the first film, but I don't think in a series called "X-Men" that he should be the focus in all of them.

As for Cyke's death... based on the early script reviews that detailed Cyke's death, people have asked Ratner and Kinberg and all kinds of people repeatedly about this. If he lived, they'd have no reason to deny it - they'd say flat-out that we were wrong. But instead they're cagey and beg us to "see the movie." Only reason to do that is because they don't want to confirm how right we are and risk us not paying phat cash to see it happen before our eyes. They're too chicken**** to cop to it. Cyke's toast, and he's gonna get atomized, and I have zero doubt of that. If it wasn't true, they'd flat-out deny it because it wouldn't be a big enough spoiler and it would make a lot of people happier and more excited for the film. But they don't, for the obvious reason.

[TromaFreak64]

So the X3 game is set between X2 and X3 for home systems and handheld. According to the site that broke the new on the mobile phone version simply called X-Men III (but obviously taken from the same source as the offical movie game) it is set both before and after X3.

http://www.xmd2.blogspot.com/

They have some nice screens shot if you scroll down.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5181/1967/1600/Picture%2017.1.jpg

Cyclops in action. Anyone want to try and figure out where Cyclops is, to see if this is before or after his supposed death since its lifted from the mobile phone version.

I don't know if the original story was accurate on all its details, but frankly its late and we need something else to investigate.

[LastSunrise1981]

I wasn't worshipping him in X2. I've said my piece on that front - I was very happy with having him central in the first film, but I don't think in a series called "X-Men" that he should be the focus in all of them.

As for Cyke's death... based on the early script reviews that detailed Cyke's death, people have asked Ratner and Kinberg and all kinds of people repeatedly about this. If he lived, they'd have no reason to deny it - they'd say flat-out that we were wrong. But instead they're cagey and beg us to "see the movie." Only reason to do that is because they don't want to confirm how right we are and risk us not paying phat cash to see it happen before our eyes. They're too chicken**** to cop to it. Cyke's toast, and he's gonna get atomized, and I have zero doubt of that. If it wasn't true, they'd flat-out deny it because it wouldn't be a big enough spoiler and it would make a lot of people happier and more excited for the film. But they don't, for the obvious reason.

Because if they say "Oh yeah, he lives" it would be a spoiler and would ruin the element of being suprised.

What are you going to say if he lives? Are you going to admit you were and are wrong? No one knows who is going to die. Even Patrick Stewart said there are significant deaths, and that could mean anyone, so don't try to read into everything and assume the worse.

See the movie for yourself and see what happens.

[Octoberist]

right or wrong, I see where Bishop is coming from.

It's just frustrating to wait until May....hopefully, things will pan out greatly for us Cyclops fans!

[Bishop2]

What are you going to say if he lives? Are you going to admit you were and are wrong?

Sure, I can do that.

But I'm extremely confident that won't happen. When the movie/comic adaption/novelization/whatever hits, I think we'll see for ourselves that Cyke is toast.

The other deaths are, in my opinion, much more up in the air. While many people are sure Xavier won't make it out, the evidence isn't quite so overwhelming as it is for Scott.

[LastSunrise1981]

Sure, I can do that.

But I'm extremely confident that won't happen. When the movie/comic adaption/novelization/whatever hits, I think we'll see for ourselves that Cyke is toast.

The other deaths are, in my opinion, much more up in the air. While many people are sure Xavier won't make it out, the evidence isn't quite so overwhelming as it is for Scott.

Actually, Brett has said himself the supposed rumors and "deaths" that we heard about were 99.9% false. So I'll believe him before I believe a frustrated fan-boy.

And if Cyclops dies then he dies, but nothing is set in stone and we won't know what happens until the 26th. Even IF he dies, I'm sure it won't ruin the movie for me.

[freshandclean]

Personally, I just wish James Marsden had more time to be in the movie. I think if he didn't have other obligations, his "death" would never even be an issue as far as the script goes. Now we're left with either he dies or he again has limited screen time. In a perfect world, he would be a big part of the emotional core of the final film, but the fact the he had barely any screen time the first 2 films leaves us with the dillema that even if he survives he probably won't have enough screen time to be an emotional anchor in the film (like he was in the DPS). Shame.

[Bishop2]

Personally, I just wish James Marsden had more time to be in the movie. I think if he didn't have other obligations, his "death" would never even be an issue as far as the script goes. Now we're left with either he dies or he again has limited screen time. In a perfect world, he would be a big part of the emotional core of the final film, but the fact the he had barely any screen time the first 2 films leaves us with the dillema that even if he survives he probably won't have enough screen time to be an emotional anchor in the film (like he was in the DPS). Shame.

Even if Marsden were available, I'm betting that they'd still downplay his role because Cyclops hasn't really been a major player in the first two. But he'd be more likely to survive, too, I'm guessing. For sure.

[Octoberist]

Either way, Marsden wins: He'll be in two of the biggest movies of the year :)

[Bishop2]

Either way, Marsden wins: He'll be in two of the biggest movies of the year :)

You have a point.

[LastSunrise1981]

Personally, I just wish James Marsden had more time to be in the movie. I think if he didn't have other obligations, his "death" would never even be an issue as far as the script goes. Now we're left with either he dies or he again has limited screen time. In a perfect world, he would be a big part of the emotional core of the final film, but the fact the he had barely any screen time the first 2 films leaves us with the dillema that even if he survives he probably won't have enough screen time to be an emotional anchor in the film (like he was in the DPS). Shame.

He had quite a bit of time in X1. X2 I can agree with since it was a continued story into Wolverine's past and so forth.

But to say he had limited screen time in X1 is crazy. Cyclops was in it quite a bit and had a lot of scenes.

[Octoberist]

as much as I liked X2, I felt that Singer didn't know what to do with Cyclops story-wise, so he made him a prisoner of Stryker..

But he did begin X2 and ended X2...so despite his small screen presense, you still remember that he's in the movie

[jusblaze21]

Either way, Marsden wins: He'll be in two of the biggest movies of the year :)

Yea, and You can't blame him for that, If Only Fox did'nt take so long to get started on this movie.

[Bishop2]

But to say he had limited screen time in X1 is crazy. Cyclops was in it quite a bit and had a lot of scenes.

Hell, he was the one who took down Magneto!

[Octoberist]

yes, he did.

[tonytr1687]

Actually, Brett has said himself the supposed rumors and "deaths" that we heard about were 99.9% false. So I'll believe him before I believe a frustrated fan-boy.

And if Cyclops dies then he dies, but nothing is set in stone and we won't know what happens until the 26th. Even IF he dies, I'm sure it won't ruin the movie for me.

Actually Ratner said 99% of the rumors surrounding the film were false, but he didnt specifically mention the deaths when talking about that. And naturally he was exaggerating with the 99% bit.

[LastSunrise1981]

as much as I liked X2, I felt that Singer didn't know what to do with Cyclops story-wise, so he made him a prisoner of Stryker..

But he did begin X2 and ended X2...so despite his small screen presense, you still remember that he's in the movie

I still get choked up whenever I see him break down in Logan's arms. :(

[taintedFB]

True.

I have to say it looks like he lives. I think the bigger plot will be the cure. And I think any additional scenes with Scott will be between him and Phoenix and we have yet to see PHoenix in all her glory.

As far as that scene of Jean with the wind blowing her hair. I agree, it could be her seeing Scott alive. He is trying to reach her and she is fighting within herself as Jean tries to regain control as Scott continues to talk her back.

Either that or she has turned on Magneto and is focusing hard to stop his army or maybe to take down a big sentinel?

Either way, I think the writers in this picture will do justice to ALL the characters, making all their scenes QUALITY scenes, no matter how few.

And Cyke is a "key player in this adventure". How can that be if he dies before the adventure even begins! He lives. woohoo!

[freshandclean]

I still get choked up whenever I see him break down in Logan's arms. :(

Yeah. He totally owns that scene. He had just the right touch of desperation without being corny.

[Octoberist]

Marsden did a good job, despite wearing the visors.

[pyromaniac]

True.

I have to say it looks like he lives. I think the bigger plot will be the cure. And I think any additional scenes with Scott will be between him and Phoenix and we have yet to see PHoenix in all her glory.


The cure comprises the political and humanistic element of the plot. Dark Phoenix is the emotional core. It has been said. They both affect each other, believe it or not, or run parallel to one another in terms of narrative.


As far as that scene of Jean with the wind blowing her hair. I agree, it could be her seeing Scott alive. He is trying to reach her and she is fighting within herself as Jean tries to regain control as Scott continues to talk her back.



Aren't you referring to the forest scene? Cyclops is nowhere in that one. It was also seen in the second trailer; providing a bigger context.

[invincible mann]

followup to what what i said about the kelsey grammer quote
grammer was recently quoted in a toronto newspaper as saying there will be a SURPRISE character at the end of X3
so that he might be used in a possible X4
this was over in the simon says thread
when kinberg was asked if he would give any hints about who this might be
kinberg said "uhm..its not toad"
it could be a joke
but X3 wouldnt be the first film in this franchise to shows us a characters death and then hint something different with the very last scene
guess we will find out on the 26th

[pt_photo_inc]

True.

I have to say it looks like he lives. I think the bigger plot will be the cure. And I think any additional scenes with Scott will be between him and Phoenix and we have yet to see PHoenix in all her glory.

As far as that scene of Jean with the wind blowing her hair. I agree, it could be her seeing Scott alive. He is trying to reach her and she is fighting within herself as Jean tries to regain control as Scott continues to talk her back.

Either that or she has turned on Magneto and is focusing hard to stop his army or maybe to take down a big sentinel?

Either way, I think the writers in this picture will do justice to ALL the characters, making all their scenes QUALITY scenes, no matter how few.

And Cyke is a "key player in this adventure". How can that be if he dies before the adventure even begins! He lives. woohoo!

I have to say Ratner is getting a lil of my respect. I believe he will do well as well. And the fact that they have WETA on it... well that is cool as well! I will always give my complete loyalty to Bryan Singer though... he just did so much from about nothing.

[pt_photo_inc]

What really scares me is IF it's just Professor X messing with Jean's mind trying to make her believe she did'nt kill Cyclops but then she finds out it's just an illusion of Cyke in uniform. I swear to god if that happens I WILL WALK OUT and will make it my lifes goal to beat the crap outta of anyone responsible for that moment.


You would walk out? That is one of the best ideas i have heard yet. Although i admit james marsden bring something to cyclops that is just "OH SO SWEET", i like to live by the proverb.... **** happens! If his character wanted to stay alive the actor could have stayed committed. If he dies it isnt the writers who failed you it is james marsden. Just look at South Park right now with ISSAC... who is letting down who there? They had to kill him off just to make up for the ass hole leaving the show.

[pt_photo_inc]

I'm putting scenes together and I think it might go like this:

I think the Pheonix will just knock scott unconsious and after she does Wolverine will enter and find a comatose scott on the ground. As he goes over to help scott he hears Jean say" He needs his glasses" and floats it over to Wolverine then faints. Wolverine carries them both back to the mansion and this takes us to the scene where we saw Jean crying in Logans arm's. She askes Wolverine were scott was and Wolverine tells her he's hurt, Jean then says to him she thinks she might've hurt him and faints away again leadin us to the seen were Professor X is with her and causing her to Blaze through the Door and leave the X-Mansion and joining the botherhood who would give her more sensation.

What do you think?

As some one that is really named phoenix.... i get confused as to how people ALWAYS SPELL IT WRONG! Nothing personal... just everyone, always. Or they just call you "felix" cause they think i am a cartoon cat or a mexican.... i dont know. But yes. "O" then "E".

[pt_photo_inc]

He comes back for them silly

Takes off his glasses in anger (Wolverine catches them)
Cyclops: I quit Wolverine, you hear me, I quit
(Storms off in anger)
(comes back two seconds later
Cyclops: I uh...forgot my glasses...kinda turns out I need those to uh see
Wolverine: Yeah right...here ya go...
Cyclops: Thanks
(Stands around in awkward silence)
Wolverine: So you're quiting right
Cyclops: Uh...yeah...so I guess I'll be....
Wolverine: yeah
Cyclops: okay I'm leaving now
Wolverine: Okay
Cyclops: I just came back to get my glasses you know
Wolverine: Yeah, I know
Cyclops: Okay well, have a....good one I guess
Wolverine: yep same to you
(stands around)
Wolverine: Are you gonna leave?
Cyclops: Oh yeah...uh right now
(Cyclops walks off)

I think someone finally caught Cyclops PERFECTLY! That is cyclops to a "T"! And yes... a lil family guy in there as well! You make me laugh sir... thank you!

[JustABill]

This is my friend....James, well...let's just say...for some reason I see Cykes when I see this picture of him...minus the blue glasses.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1394/jamesaverycykesmoment5bj.jpg

[Hugh'sMrs]

This is my friend....James, well...let's just say...for some reason I see Cykes when I see this picture of him...minus the blue glasses.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1394/jamesaverycykesmoment5bj.jpg

He looks more like Brandon Routh than James Marsden.

[JustABill]

Hmm. I can see why you'd say that.

[Hugh'sMrs]

Hmm. I can see why you'd say that.

I've seen a lot of dark haired guys wearing sunglasses who think they look like James Marsden as Scott Summers ...... but no. Marsden has those chiseled cheekbones and that luscious mouth that's not easily duplicated. Which is why Fox would never have been able to slap the visor on just anyone and call him Cyclops if James hadn't been available for X3.

[JustABill]

You know, I get your Marsden points, but I was talking more in general of the comic character than Marsden himself. :p

[Hugh'sMrs]

You know, I get your Marsden points, but I was talking more in general of the comic character than Marsden himself. :p

I acknowledge that there have been many different versions of Scott in the comics but that still doesn't mean every brunette guy who wears sunglasses looks like him.

Your friend is cute but if he wanted to have a career as a celeb lookalike he wouldn't cut it as Marsden.

[aaron]

high cheekbones are a rarity these days

[Aiden]

He reminds me of Jake Gyllenhaal for some reason

[aaron]

i can kinda see it, the mouth area

[JokerNick]

what about my friend, i think he looks like cyclops crossed with proffessor X


http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8348/wheels7xn.png

[britrogue]

I have to say how much I LOVED seeing the scene of Scott and Jean kissing in the new TV spot.

[X-Maniac]

high cheekbones are a rarity these days

That seems a rather random, 'out-there' comment...

Why are high cheekbones so rare? Tell us...

[Hugh'sMrs]

I have to say how much I LOVED seeing the scene of Scott and Jean kissing in the new TV spot.

Lucky Famke. She gets to kiss Hugh and James. When she does the talk show circuit I wonder if anyone's going to ask her who's the better kisser. :)

[PhoenixFire]

That seems a rather random, 'out-there' comment...

Why are high cheekbones so rare? Tell us...
Because they're conventionally beautiful and pretty people are getting darn hard to come by . . .

[JokerNick]

Because they're conventionally beautiful and pretty people are getting darn hard to come by . . .


this is honestly the most bizzare thread right now...................

[Bishop2]

Why are high cheekbones so rare? Tell us...

I would argue it's because dudes with high cheekbones look like chicks, but that's me.

[aaron]

I would argue it's because dudes with high cheekbones look like chicks, but that's me.
thats jealousy

[aaron]

That seems a rather random, 'out-there' comment...

Why are high cheekbones so rare? Tell us...
cos not many people have them ... duh

[JokerNick]

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/716/scott4dx.jpgyes, they are very high, very high indeed...........

[aaron]

http://www.allstarz.org/~marsden/cigjames2.jpg

[PhoenixRising]

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/716/scott4dx.jpgyes, they are very high, very high indeed...........


AHHHHH!!!! :eek:

[Storm22]

Also, some of our theories were "hot and cold" to what happens, as said by Kinberg.

Which is exactly why I asked Kinberg that very question! I don't want to read into it much but he said some of the theories here were very hot(also some very cold). Now from what I've seen we mostly been generating various theories as to how Cyclops might survive/come back.
He may well have been referring to the "Cyclops living" theories in that answer because most of the doubters are presuming Cyclops will just be killed at Alkali and that's that whereas numerous possibilities regarding Cyclops living have been posted. Again though, I'm not gonna raise my hopes based on this answer, I don't want to read too much into it

[JokerNick]

Which is exactly why I asked Kinberg that very question! I don't want to read into it much but he said some of the theories here were very hot(also some very cold). Now from what I've seen we mostly been generating various theories as to how Cyclops might survive/come back.
He may well have been referring to the "Cyclops living" theories in that answer because most of the doubters are presuming Cyclops will just be killed at Alkali and that's that whereas numerous possibilities regarding Cyclops living have been posted. Again though, I'm not gonna raise my hopes based on this answer, I don't want to read too much into it

I think you arleady have.............

[Storm22]

Ha, well maybe a little!

[jcykeson]

hey, maybe this has been asked, but when i watched the 1st tv spot again.. there's no hint of Jean's eyes glowing when she kissed Scott.. is that manipulated?

[ShadowBoxing]

Which is exactly why I asked Kinberg that very question! I don't want to read into it much but he said some of the theories here were very hot(also some very cold). Now from what I've seen we mostly been generating various theories as to how Cyclops might survive/come back.
He may well have been referring to the "Cyclops living" theories in that answer because most of the doubters are presuming Cyclops will just be killed at Alkali and that's that whereas numerous possibilities regarding Cyclops living have been posted. Again though, I'm not gonna raise my hopes based on this answer, I don't want to read too much into itDifference is none of the doubters create theories...they just throw up their hands and say, he dies just like it says in the draft

[Storm22]

Exactly, which is why I'd say he was probably referring to some of the, often elaborate, theories that Cyclops survives/Cyclops comes back.

[JokerNick]

hey, maybe this has been asked, but when i watched the 1st tv spot again.. there's no hint of Jean's eyes glowing when she kissed Scott.. is that manipulated?

her eyes slightly open, and that's it............ eveyone is making a major deal out of it, saying it's a death look or something

[PhoenixRisen]

Difference is none of the doubters create theories...they just throw up their hands and say, he dies just like it says in the draft
Right...When he said some are hot and some are cold, he basically said that Cyke lives. Unless Cyke dying is a "hot" theory...

[ShadowBoxing]

This is my friend....James, well...let's just say...for some reason I see Cykes when I see this picture of him...minus the blue glasses.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1394/jamesaverycykesmoment5bj.jpg

Kid I pwn your friend so bad
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/DSCF0637.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/?)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1614/scottifitwasme3lq.jpg
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7728/comein4rp.jpg

[PhoenixRisen]

Which is exactly why I asked Kinberg that very question!
That was a good question, cuz it got a good answer!! :D

[JokerNick]

Exactly, which is why I'd say he was probably referring to some of the, often elaborate, theories that Cyclops survives/Cyclops comes back.

but cyclops does live, he lives in the smile of every child, in every tear shed for happiness, in the heart of every new romance, and most importantly............in our souls, he will always live there........ untill we a dissolved by the phoenix....................

[PhoenixRisen]

hey, maybe this has been asked, but when i watched the 1st tv spot again.. there's no hint of Jean's eyes glowing when she kissed Scott.. is that manipulated?
I think what you are seeing is a light reflected on a TV screen. :D

[PhoenixRisen]

but cyclops does live, he lives in the smile of every child, in every tear shed for happiness, in the heart of every new romance....................
...in every air sickness bag used when reading that!! LOL!! :D

[JokerNick]

...in every air sickness bag used when reading that!! LOL!! :D

I beg you pardon............I give you gold and this is what I get............. lolhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[kytrigger]

Difference is none of the doubters create theories...they just throw up their hands and say, he dies just like it says in the draft

Well technically them beliieving he dies is a theory too. Granted, it's not as in depth and thought out as some of the *takes deep breath* "he lives because the concussive force from the waves knocks him into Gambit's cave hideout wherewhere he recupurates and finds his way to the mansion without his glasses just like that one episode of Evolution and then he comes back and fights the Sentinels and takes off his visor and destroys them all with one shot and Wolvierine says" sometimes Summer's I remember why you're still in charge." theories, but they are still theories.

[WorthyStevens]

I wasn't worshipping him in X2. I've said my piece on that front - I was very happy with having him central in the first film, but I don't think in a series called "X-Men" that he should be the focus in all of them.

As for Cyke's death... based on the early script reviews that detailed Cyke's death, people have asked Ratner and Kinberg and all kinds of people repeatedly about this. If he lived, they'd have no reason to deny it - they'd say flat-out that we were wrong. But instead they're cagey and beg us to "see the movie." Only reason to do that is because they don't want to confirm how right we are and risk us not paying phat cash to see it happen before our eyes. They're too chicken**** to cop to it. Cyke's toast, and he's gonna get atomized, and I have zero doubt of that. If it wasn't true, they'd flat-out deny it because it wouldn't be a big enough spoiler and it would make a lot of people happier and more excited for the film. But they don't, for the obvious reason.

Unless they're saving him for a surprise in the third act.

Hell, they aren't telling us who ELSE is going to show up in the final battle besides who we've seen.

Simon said that the lineup we see of Beast, Storm, Logan, Kitty, Iceman and Pietr won't be the final lineup throughout the battle.

[axex]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but here's a hopeful theory. In the AICN early script review, it said Jean took off Scott's glasses, couldn't control his blasts, and things just went nuts and he was vaporized. In one of the newer tv spots where they're kissing, Scott's glasses are obviously off. And obviously, he's not vaporized. So either it just doesn't happen as swiftly as the review made it sound, or the script did indeed change. I'm probably just being overly hopeful here, but it is something I noticed.

[axex]

Simon said that the lineup we see of Beast, Storm, Logan, Kitty, Iceman and Pietr won't be the final lineup throughout the battle.

When did he say this?

[WorthyStevens]

Which is exactly why I asked Kinberg that very question! I don't want to read into it much but he said some of the theories here were very hot(also some very cold). Now from what I've seen we mostly been generating various theories as to how Cyclops might survive/come back.
He may well have been referring to the "Cyclops living" theories in that answer because most of the doubters are presuming Cyclops will just be killed at Alkali and that's that whereas numerous possibilities regarding Cyclops living have been posted. Again though, I'm not gonna raise my hopes based on this answer, I don't want to read too much into it

Just like how I asked if he's been on THIS thread. Hell, he said he's contributed to this thread, so he's bound to know what we all think of that AICN Cyclops disaster.

[WorthyStevens]

When did he say this?

Hold on... let me find the specific question/answer.

[kytrigger]

Unless they're saving him for a surprise in the third act.

Hell, they aren't telling us who ELSE is going to show up in the final battle besides who we've seen.

Simon said that the lineup we see of Beast, Storm, Logan, Kitty, Iceman and Pietr won't be the final lineup throughout the battle.

Good point yet again.

I like your new avvy too.

[JokerNick]

Just like how I asked if he's been on THIS thread. Hell, he said he's contributed to this thread, so he's bound to know what we all think of that AICN Cyclops disaster.

we all know he's PhoenixRisen on here................lol

[taintedFB]

one BIG clue:

The writers have repeatedly said they looked at LOTR: Return of the King and tried to emulate that.

In LOTR, Aragorn disappears only to reappear midway through the final battle with that army of ghosts. Could Cyclops be Aragorn? Could he be returning midway through the battle, just when it appears the X-Men are losing?

I think so. And the fact that Simon hinted that those we've seen in the final battle won't be alone, suggests Cyclops' return.

Dude, just realized this is my 200th post. My bicentenniel! HA!

[JokerNick]

one BIG clue:

The writers have repeatedly said they looked at LOTR: Return of the King and tried to emulate that.

In LOTR, Aragorn disappears only to reappear midway through the final battle with that army of ghosts. Could Cyclops be Aragorn? Could he be returning midway through the battle, just when it appears the X-Men are losing?

I think so. And the fact that Simon hinted that those we've seen in the final battle won't be alone, suggests Cyclops' return.

nope, they've said that they see Cyclops as Gollum, but instead of at the end, it happens at the beginning...............

[WorthyStevens]

Alright... haven't found that specific Q/A from Simon yet, but I did run across this little gem:

Q. When you mention plot twists/curveballs aswell as "not all fates are what they may appear" in X3; are comments like this directed at the general viewing public or at fans like ourselves(who've followed X3's production from day 1 and are aware of the rumours, script reviews etc.)??

*Believe me, there are still some surprises left for even the most hardcore online fan. The civilian coming off the street will be downright shocked by some things in this film.

[WorthyStevens]

Good point yet again.

I like your new avvy too.

Thanks. ;)

[JokerNick]

Alright... haven't found that specific Q/A from Simon, but I did run across this little gem:

Q. When you mention plot twists/curveballs aswell as "not all fates are what they may appear" in X3; are comments like this directed at the general viewing public or at fans like ourselves(who've followed X3's production from day 1 and are aware of the rumours, script reviews etc.)??

*Believe me, there are still some surprises left for even the most hardcore online fan. The civilian coming off the street will be downright shocked by some things in this film.

there was also a question that asked wether scott's fate was one of the twists, and they said NO..................

[Storm22]

^ Ha, that was my question too Worthy! By the way, where did you see the Kinberg answer where he said more mutants will join the X-Men in battle??

[WorthyStevens]

there was also a question that asked wether scott's fate was one of the twists, and they said NO..................

Not exactly.

This was what was said...

2. A number of fans have taken your comments about "surprises" and believe the surprise will centre around Cyclops. Can we expect any surprise about Cyclops in X3 whatsoever or were you referring to other characters? I only ask because I think it is better people don't feel dissapointed. Please, just any hint.

*See above: enough Cyclops. But no, that’s not what I was referring to. I was referring to other characters, and other plot twists. I’m not trying to lead you on about Cyclops. I’ve said before, we did the best we could with Cyclops, and we are incredibly big fans of the character and actor. The remaining surprises are both big and small – some cool twists, and some little texture moments.

But remember, he was getting bombarded with Cyclops questions:

1. Would Cyclop's role been significantly different if Marsden was around more to shoot scenes?

*Come on, enough Cyclops questions.

[Storm22]

2. A number of fans have taken your comments about "surprises" and believe the surprise will centre around Cyclops. Can we expect any surprise about Cyclops in X3 whatsoever or were you referring to other characters? I only ask because I think it is better people don't feel dissapointed. Please, just any hint.

*See above: enough Cyclops. But no, that’s not what I was referring to. I was referring to other characters, and other plot twists. I’m not trying to lead you on about Cyclops. I’ve said before, we did the best we could with Cyclops, and we are incredibly big fans of the character and actor. The remaining surprises are both big and small – some cool twists, and some little texture moments

That's the answer that made me reconsider my optimistic appraisal of Cyclop's fate. I haven't been able to forget that answer!

[WorthyStevens]

And I found this too:

2. Theres a lot of characters in this film and theres gotta be some question marks left over when the film ends.....But are you happy with how the story and characters fates came wrap up at the end of the film or would you have liked to do more?

*As a writer/artist, you always feel you could do more. But I’m really happy with the character resolutions in the film. I think we close up some critical arcs, and complete relationships. The main characters all have some sense of closure.

[WorthyStevens]

That's the answer that made me reconsider my optimistic appraisal of Cyclop's fate. I haven't been able to forget that answer!

Look at this part though:

1. Would Cyclop's role been significantly different if Marsden was around more to shoot scenes?

*Come on, enough Cyclops questions.

He was generally tired of people asking about Cyclops.

[Storm22]

Look at this part though:

1. Would Cyclop's role been significantly different if Marsden was around more to shoot scenes?

*Come on, enough Cyclops questions.

He was generally tired of people asking about Cyclops.


Yeah I understand he was sick of Cyclops questions but if that was the case then all he had to say was what he said in that answer there. He didn't have to explain that he wasn't referring to Cyclops when talking about surprises, he could have just said no more Cyclops questions!

closure can sometimes = death also.

[WorthyStevens]

closure can sometimes = death though.

Demolecularized isn't good closure though.

[Optic Rage]

Well thats not good Closure......

so whos gonna try and get the 10000 post?

[Aiden]

I took some of his interesting Cyclops answers a while back and put them together, I'll post it

[Storm22]

Demolecularized isn't good closure though.

It's not the best no.

[WorthyStevens]

It's not the best no.

Good, even great, closure would be Scott coming back at the end, kicking some ass, and saving his one true love. ;)

[taintedFB]

Closure for Scott would be saving Jean and taking over the school after Xavier's death.

Like, I can imagine in that scene where the kid runs into Storm's arms, Scott is looking on from the window above, as new headmaster of the institute.

[Aiden]

I love Cyclops. Sorry Ghostman for not answering this earlier, but I guess I missed your first post. I was a huge Cyclops fan from the comics growing up. He has some very dramatic scenes in this film, and definitely a few surprises. The Cyclops/Scott in X3 is not the clean-cut boy from the first two films. Jean’s death in X2 really impacted him.

All I can say is: Angel and Beast are in X3. In terms of putting together the original team, you’ll have to wait and see…

Yes, we will see Cyclops using his powers in action.

The script that was reviewed on AICN was a rough outline-version of the first 80 pages.
We wrote it extremely quickly, for the sake of production (so they could start scouting and budgeting the general shape of the first two acts). It has changed profoundly since then, not simply to accommodate fans, but to make (in our estimation) the best possible movie. You have to remember, the filmmakers all happen to be fans – from producers like Avi, Kevin Feige and Lauren Schuler Donner, to the writers and director. We want the same things you do. There are some general elements that remain from that early incarnation, but that’s all.



I'll add more stuff to it later

[Storm22]

Good, even great, closure would be Scott coming back at the end, kicking some ass, and saving his one true love

I know, it's probably unlikely though. Do you have the post where Kinberg said more mutants would be joining the X-Men in battle Worthy?

[GreatWhiteWhale]

come on guys,

I don't think anaylzing Simon and Zak's responses will give us any clearcut answers.

Doing that, like trying to piece together the scenes from the traliers, only results in cementing a conclusion that the poster has already pre-meditated on and is already predisposed to.

Whether Cyclops lives or dies, what's changed since the infamous AICN leak, what surprises are in store we won['t know until at least halfway through May.

That's ONE MONTH of waiting.

I think we can be patient for one month, as no ones response here is going to clear up any doubt surrounding Cyclops's fate in the film.

ON the other side of the coin, did anyone here that YES THE SENTINELS ARE IN THE FILM.

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS?

[Angry Sentinel]

Thank You!!!!

[Storm22]

Closure for Scott would be saving Jean and taking over the school after Xavier's death.

Like, I can imagine in that scene where the kid runs into Storm's arms, Scott is looking on from the window above, as new headmaster of the institute.

I was thinking that too, people are looking at that photo going OMG Cyclops isn't there, he's obviously dead but Cyclops could be in Xaviers office or somewhere else in the mansion(maybe nursing Jean in the infirmary)

[WorthyStevens]

come on guys,

I don't think anaylzing Simon and Zak's responses will give us any clearcut answers.

Doing that, like trying to piece together the scenes from the traliers, only results in cementing a conclusion that the poster has already pre-meditated on and is already predisposed to.

Whether Cyclops lives or dies, what's changed since the infamous AICN leak, what surprises are in store we won['t know until at least halfway through May.

That's ONE MONTH of waiting.

I think we can be patient for one month, as no ones response here is going to clear up any doubt surrounding Cyclops's fate in the film.

ON the other side of the coin, did anyone here that YES THE SENTINELS ARE IN THE FILM.

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS?

Because this is the Cyclops thread. Where we're more likely to talk about Scott. :p

[GreatWhiteWhale]

lol,

hey Angry, good to see you my friend.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Because this is the Cyclops thread. Where we're more likely to talk about Scott. :p

I know, but im just surprised to see that after the confirmation of the sentinels, after 6 years of fans clamouring to see them in cinema, no one is talking about them.

Everyone is still talking about the same things they have been for the past six months.

Anyway, fair enough, this is the thread for ol' one eye not the sentinel one.

[Angry Sentinel]

lol,

hey Angry, good to see you my friend. Hi-yo! I've been looking for a good Sentinel Convo all morning...


Because this is the Cyclops thread. Where we're more likely to talk about Scott. :p
or chat about the weather, usernames, new avatars, and just about everything else under the sun :p

[WorthyStevens]

I know, it's probably unlikely though. Do you have the post where Kinberg said more mutants would be joining the X-Men in battle Worthy?

Well, I misread it sorta (but still in a good way):

1. In the final battle on the trailer, we saw Colossus, Iceman, Kitty, Logan, Storm and Beast. I guess those are the ones who don't wanna take the cure and are more sure about their "mutancy". Will any other mutant join them in the last battle and will it depend on the choice of their gift over a normal life?

*Spoiler.

[Storm22]

Hmmmm.

[Maze]

come on guys,

I don't think anaylzing Simon and Zak's responses will give us any clearcut answers.

Doing that, like trying to piece together the scenes from the traliers, only results in cementing a conclusion that the poster has already pre-meditated on and is already predisposed to.

Whether Cyclops lives or dies, what's changed since the infamous AICN leak, what surprises are in store we won['t know until at least halfway through May.

That's ONE MONTH of waiting.

I think we can be patient for one month, as no ones response here is going to clear up any doubt surrounding Cyclops's fate in the film.

ON the other side of the coin, did anyone here that YES THE SENTINELS ARE IN THE FILM.

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS?


<<< Twisting somebody famous words ) We are talking that way about cyke because if he must die our words will make resonate his name trought eternity !!(or at least untill they erase some of the post of the hype againn :o:( :D )

Seriously you're right , but what can we do , we love the character , and i suppose that his treatement as the outsider give him a sort of Rockyish aura in the heart of people..

but then again you're right : the sentinels are in the movie!:up:

[JokerNick]

Well, I misread it sorta (but still in a good way):

1. In the final battle on the trailer, we saw Colossus, Iceman, Kitty, Logan, Storm and Beast. I guess those are the ones who don't wanna take the cure and are more sure about their "mutancy". Will any other mutant join them in the last battle and will it depend on the choice of their gift over a normal life?

*Spoiler.


I think he's hinting that rogue helps them out at the end........ I still think she will down juggernaut and take his powers for good.........

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Good point Maze,

And, if Cyclops does not get cinematic justice, like he deserves, then perhaps this online rabble roused can eventually inspire it to happen.

Just like your signature says.

It's just, i wonder, sometimes I feel people look too deeply into the sayings of the writers and the scenes in the trailers, just to see what they want or hope to see.

And once again:
SENTINELS ARE IN THE FILM.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN?

[aaron]

That was a good question, cuz it got a good answer!! :D
sorry, wrong post

[aaron]

<<< Twisting somebody famous words ) We are talking that way about cyke because if he must die our words will make resonate his name trought eternity !!(or at least untill they erase some of the post of the hype againn :o:( :D )

Seriously you're right , but what can we do , we love the character , and i suppose that his treatement as the outsider give him a sort of Rockyish aura in the heart of people..

but then again you're right : the sentinels are in the movie!:up:
are the sentinels gonna be in the danger room, or a plot..do we know?

[Maze]

are the sentinels gonna be in the danger room, or a plot..do we know?
No we don't , but i think that they could be in both ( even if for maximum impact i would introduce them only at the end)..I think that they could be especially at the end reading how Ratner turned the last act into something even more expensive..

[PhoenixRising]

youre one of the vainest dudes i know of

.....That was rude.

[aaron]

No we don't , but i think that they could be in both ( even if for maximum impact i would introduce them only at the end)..I think that they could be especially at the end reading how Ratner turned the last act into something even more expensive..
im thinkin theyre not in the danger room, cos from that showest danger room clip looked like the robot was a little robot thingy

[aaron]

.....That was rude.
the truth is many things

[PhoenixRising]

the truth is many things

PhoenixRisen is not vain. People are entitled to their own opinions, you can think he is vain, I can think you are foolish.

[taintedFB]

But we have Trask in this movie so I think the Sentinels will be launched possibly in response to Magneto and Phoenix's uprising OR to round up mutants and force the cure on them.

[aaron]

PhoenixRisen is not vain. People are entitled to their own opinions, you can think he is vain, I can think you are foolish.
sorry, just realised i quoted the wrong post, it was meant for shadowboxing

[StevieNicks1988]

To me, I think each movie was about three different main good guy characters.

X1 - Cyclops, Wolverine and Rogue. Why? Cyclops because he was the leader, took down Magneto, and led them back and forth into battle and was there by Professor X's side in his time of need. Wolverine and Rogue are obvious.

X2 - Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Pyro (Pyro is 50/50 but I'm sure you get my point)

X3 - Jean Grey, Beast and Storm.

If you look at it that way, Wolverine was the only one to get main status more than once. Every main character so far has had more than one chance to shine. Cyclops was treated poorly, I agree, in X2. But in X1, THAT is what made me get the whole Cyclops character; seeing him in action.

[RagingTempest]

To me, I think each movie was about three different main good guy characters.

X1 - Cyclops, Wolverine and Rogue. Why? Cyclops because he was the leader, took down Magneto, and led them back and forth into battle and was there by Professor X's side in his time of need. Wolverine and Rogue are obvious.

X2 - Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Pyro (Pyro is 50/50 but I'm sure you get my point)

X3 - Jean Grey, Beast and Storm.

If you look at it that way, Wolverine was the only one to get main status more than once. Every main character so far has had more than one chance to shine. Cyclops was treated poorly, I agree, in X2. But in X1, THAT is what made me get the whole Cyclops character; seeing him in action.

I agree, I think Cyclops had a decent role in X1, but in X2, he was almost forgetable!!! I remember in the middle of X2, thinking.."Uhhh, where is Cyclops, is he ever going to show up again!" But I thought when he came back at the end, he was great, especially after Jean drowned in the lake. But is was still messed up, and is going to be again in this film!!!:down Hopefully his role will still be significent, even though it will be small, yet again!!:rolleyes:

[Octoberist]

Like what I said before, as Much as I like X2 and Singer, I felt that he didn't know what to do with Cyclops (since there were so many characters) so he just made him into a prisioner.

The sad thing is...if a person only watched X2 and not the first one, they wouldn't know if Cyclops is the leader or not. They'll see him as the wimpy jealous boyfriend :(

[PhoenixRising]

sorry, just realised i quoted the wrong post, it was meant for shadowboxing

Ok, lol. Everyone makes mistakes. Dont apologize to me, apologize to PhoenixRisen.

[ShadowBoxing]

the truth is many thingsmeh....


wait why did you end the word with -iest

[aaron]

meh....


wait why did you end the word with -iest
huh?

[JokerNick]

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7881/cyke0ui.png (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

just remembering all the good times I've had with cyclops.............. hope he doesn't die

[Angry Sentinel]

Given your statement and the picture above, I assume you are a toyosexual

[kytrigger]

Given your statement and the picture above, I assume you are a toyosexual

They're not toys! They're collectible action figures!!!!! :p

[Aiden]

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7881/cyke0ui.png (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

just remembering all the good times I've had with cyclops.............. hope he doesn't dietut tut tut. How mature...



:D :p

[Angry Sentinel]

Actionsexual??
Figuresexual?
ActFiguresexual?

Sexuality sure is getting complex :p

[JokerNick]

Actionsexual??
Figuresexual?
ActFiguresexual?

Sexuality sure is getting complex :p

actionfiguresexual is what I perfer......................... good times...... good times.........http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[_BB_]

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7881/cyke0ui.png (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

just remembering all the good times I've had with cyclops.............. hope he doesn't die

whys beasts head so small...

[tonytr1687]

im thinkin theyre not in the danger room, cos from that showest danger room clip looked like the robot was a little robot thingy

Wasnt there an article where some guy who worked on real-life robotics said he was approached by the X3 production b/c they were looking for robot designs? And in the article the guy says they opted for the 3-foot tall robot design? Or was this an April Fools joke? I pray to God it is b/c 3-foot Sentinels would be a disgrace, especially if they're in the Danger Room and thats it.

[kytrigger]

whys beasts head so small...

it's not that his head is small, it's just that the rest of his body is huge...

[WorthyStevens]

Wasnt there an article where some guy who worked on real-life robotics said he was approached by the X3 production b/c they were looking for robot designs? And in the article the guy says they opted for the 3-foot tall robot design? Or was this an April Fools joke? I pray to God it is b/c 3-foot Sentinels would be a disgrace, especially if they're in the Danger Room and thats it.



I think it was just an AFD's joke.

[JokerNick]

i don't know about that, it never clearly said if it was a joke........... the article was well written and made sense to the plot of the film

[Avalanche]

i don't know about that, it never clearly said if it was a joke........... the article was well written and made sense to the plot of the film
It was a joke. :up:

And wasn't that well written either. No offence Ant. :p

[JokerNick]

It was a joke. :up:

And wasn't that well written either. No offence Ant. :p

have you read internet articles, it's well written in comarasion......... how do you know it's a joke besides that the article was released on the 1st

[WorthyStevens]

have you read internet articles, it's well written in comarasion......... how do you know it's a joke besides that the article was released on the 1st

The fact it was taken off the site after the 1st... :p

[tonytr1687]

The fact it was taken off the site after the 1st... :p

Did Ant write it?

[WorthyStevens]

That he did. ;)

[JokerNick]

That he did. ;)

well I was fooled............. still kinda am.......lol

[pt_photo_inc]

I agree, I think Cyclops had a decent role in X1, but in X2, he was almost forgetable!!! I remember in the middle of X2, thinking.."Uhhh, where is Cyclops, is he ever going to show up again!" But I thought when he came back at the end, he was great, especially after Jean drowned in the lake. But is was still messed up, and is going to be again in this film!!!:down Hopefully his role will still be significent, even though it will be small, yet again!!:rolleyes:

you can not think about X2 and not think about Cyclops trying to get to jean in the end. Or fighting her in the dam. Fans are scary... i really think you would ruin a movie just to see a proportionate amount of air time... reguardless of the risk to the integrity of the story. Just like Halle Berry.... no talent so and so! Had to go cry that her role wasnt big enough. She was a superstar and all.... and now they made a role to fit her ego. X2 was genius! I mean.... pure genious! Watching it was like watching the matrix for the first time. And unlike most action movies where people die and it dont matter and we dont care... if it wasnt for cyclops role in that movie, I would not have got misty! He pulled the whole movie back and said... "this isnt a movie about pawns... it is a movie about the ones we love, and struggle beside!" And he did a bad ass job! Now we have a third script. And if they kill him in the begining... it is going to be much to the intergrity of the script, or the complexity of Jean. I mean... ****, she kills her lover????? Damn that is intense! (if it happens!) It is brave and bold... i like it.

like i said earlier... if james marsden doesnt want cyclops to die, he didnt have to take on a pathetic role in superman returns when he had promised his time to X3! Just like Issac Hayes with South Park... did we want to see chep die? HELL NO! But it is as much as Issacs as anyone... even more so!

Anyways... i know this is the cyclops thread, but really.... SENTINELS!!!!!!! Big or the small man sized ones? And what is up with wolvering slashing through someones face with his claws and not having pieces of his head falling off in sleeves!?!?!?!?!!

[Aiden]

Chris Isaak? You've got Chris Isaak confused with Isaac Hayes :p

[pt_photo_inc]

Chris Isaak? You've got Chris Isaak confused with Isaac Hayes :p

FIXED :)

[Angry Sentinel]

X2 was genius! I mean.... pure genious! Watching it was like watching the matrix for the first time. And unlike most action movies where people die and it dont matter and we dont care... if it wasnt for cyclops role in that movie, I would not have got misty! He pulled the whole movie back and said... "this isnt a movie about pawns... it is a movie about the ones we love, and struggle beside!" And he did a bad ass job! Now we have a third script. And if they kill him in the begining... it is going to be much to the intergrity of the script, or the complexity of Jean. I mean... ****, she kills her lover????? Damn that is intense! (if it happens!) It is brave and bold... i like it.
Too bad he didn't actually "say" that line:p

I'm glad to see you got all of that from X2 :up:

[pt_photo_inc]

That was what he said with acting.... you think i meant he actually verbally spoke that?

[pt_photo_inc]

his acting was brillant. I never once thought to myself "You know what this movie could use more of????? It's gotta have more Cowbel- er Cyclops!"

James Marsden is hands down one of the best hands dealt to the Xmen trilogy! But you gotta do what you gotta do.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

his acting was brillant. I never once thought to myself "You know what this movie could use more of????? It's gotta have more Cowbel- er Cyclops!"

James Marsden is hands down one of the best hands dealt to the Xmen trilogy! But you gotta do what you gotta do.
Ι agree!!!!!! More than you could possible imagine!!!!

[RagingTempest]

his acting was brillant. I never once thought to myself "You know what this movie could use more of????? It's gotta have more Cowbel- er Cyclops!"

James Marsden is hands down one of the best hands dealt to the Xmen trilogy! But you gotta do what you gotta do.

I agree!!! James is perfect as Cyclops!!!:up:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I agree!!! James is perfect as Cyclops!!!:up:
There is no way I could imagine someone else playing Cyclops!!!!!!

[taintedFB]

Same here. I remember first reading about it. I was already of fan of his since Disturbing Behavior and when I saw he was Cyclops it was perfect. One of ym favorite actors playing one of my favorite characters!

[aaron]

i know, i shriek at the idea that jim caivezel got offered the role

[LastSunrise1981]

I think James is a very good actor and has talent. Granted his time in X2 was very limited to an extent, however, during the scene in which Jean "dies" again I literally choked up in the theater when he broke down in Logans arms.

I think that's one thing Singer did get right in the X-Men movies which was the emotional impact of loss or sadness in general. The same thing happened in X1 when Logan was holding Rogue on top of the Statue of Liberty.

A big part of me believes that Cyclops will make an emotional appearance during the final stand. When they show the X-Men lined up for battle, I get chills and get choked up. I think that's when you know a movie will be great, when you get chills and choked up over a sneak glimpse of what is to be shown.

Wolverine- She's gone.... She's gone...

Cyclops- NO!!! Don't say that!!! ::Punching at Wolverine and pushing him, then proceeds to break down in his arms::

:( I think I'm going to watch X2 tonight.

[ILuvCyclops]

James is excellent as Cyclops...hands down. His facial expressions are great when acting and this is essential for the character.

[JokerNick]

There is no way I could imagine someone else playing Cyclops!!!!!!

How bout Morgan Freeman, he'd be pretty good............

[pt_photo_inc]

and his placement was perfect in the 2nd movie as well! you should never try to build a story around a good actor, but let that actor build your story! James barely had the screen time to accomplish what he was able to accomplish! I give him props... but I also say he is the maker of his own demise in this third movie. No matter how much he is or is not in it.... he will be amazing! And if we wish we could see more of him... well, lets just say on one hand he had CYCLOPS the leader of the Xmen, and the other he has (Whatever his name is) Pilot in superman returns. I think he made a poor choice. And the only way i wouldnt think that is if he is playing exactly the role they wanted him for from the get go! But i think his role was altered a lil for the lack of dedication he could give the project.

[aaron]

How bout Morgan Freeman, he'd be pretty good............
morgan freeman is the dude..hed pull it off

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Same here. I remember first reading about it. I was already of fan of his since Disturbing Behavior and when I saw he was Cyclops it was perfect. One of ym favorite actors playing one of my favorite characters!
What can I say...you are obviously lucky!!!!

So I am!!!

[CapBeerCino]

Wolverine- She's gone.... She's gone...

Cyclops- NO!!! Don't say that!!! ::Punching at Wolverine and pushing him, then proceeds to break down in his arms::

:( I think I'm going to watch X2 tonight.

Can I join? :p

I think the x-men in a line can play both ways- Cyclops lives, chills down the spine and all...
Cyclops dies and seeing all of the x-men but him in a row will really make me choke :(

[RagingTempest]

James as Cycolops is like the combination of Cyclops from X-men:TAS and Evolution!!! He's young, but there's so much maturity and leadership that he portrays!!!:up:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

How bout Morgan Freeman, he'd be pretty good............
I don't doubt that he is good... But Jimmy is better!!!!!!
For me he repressents Cyclops!!!!!

Very simply:

Jimmy Marsden=Cyclops

[SCOTT&JEAN]

James as Cycolops is like the combination of Cyclops from X-men:TAS and Evolution!!! He's young, but there's so much maturity and leadership that he portrays!!!:up:
Excaxtly what I mean!!!

[WideAwake]

Yeah, Marsden is a good Cyclops. I don't know if you guys ever listen to the audiocommentaries on the DVD's, but Singer keeps mentioning how great he thinks he is. I haven't seen much other work of Marsden, except for Disturbing Behavior and Gossip, and it was greatto see him play a real ******* in that movie.

LastSunrise1981, it's funny that you mention those scenes from X1 and 2, because they are among my favorites of the movies. I felt so sad for Cyclops when Jean died. Great music in that scene too, nothing dramatic and sweeping, but subtle, low key and sad.

I don't think Marsden is to blame for his (appearent) lack of screentime in X3. The studio kept stalling X3, which is why Singer left in the first place. He got offered a part, and took it. I think he chose wisely because he's not a very well known actor, and I don't think he could afford to just wait 'till the studio was ready.

[xwolverine2]

they should give cyclops that button in his hand that activates the glasses like in ultimate x-men.... that would be a cool surprise!

[JokerNick]

I don't doubt that he is good... But Jimmy is better!!!!!!
For me he repressents Cyclops!!!!!

Very simply:

Jimmy Marsden=Cyclops


http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8088/morgan2fg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pt_photo_inc]

Yeah, Marsden is a good Cyclops. I don't know if you guys ever listen to the audiocommentaries on the DVD's, but Singer keeps mentioning how great he thinks he is. I haven't seen much other work of Marsden, except for Disturbing Behavior and Gossip, and it was greatto see him play a real ******* in that movie.

LastSunrise1981, it's funny that you mention those scenes from X1 and 2, because they are among my favorites of the movies. I felt so sad for Cyclops when Jean died. Great music in that scene too, nothing dramatic and sweeping, but subtle, low key and sad.

I don't think Marsden is to blame for his (appearent) lack of screentime in X3. The studio kept stalling X3, which is why Singer left in the first place. He got offered a part, and took it. I think he chose wisely because he's not a very well known actor, and I don't think he could afford to just wait 'till the studio was ready.


very good point. And being in a warner brothers movie is well.... not going to get you any awards but will bring you money!

[JokerNick]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2840/toy5wy.png (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

any body see this yet, probably,................. ran accross it online....... it said it is from X3 on the website

[MoiBijou]

Thats' for X1, I almost bought it some years ago. :)

[xwolverine2]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8088/morgan2fg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROTFLMFAO!!!..yeah!!

[JokerNick]

Thats' for X1, I almost bought it some years ago. :)

freakin internet liars, the image was too low res for me to zoom in........

[taintedFB]

That would be cool. I still think the biggest hint the writers have given us is comparing it to LOTR:ROTK. Just like Aragorn came mid battle, I see Cyke doing the same here.

[WorthyStevens]

That would be cool. I still think the biggest hint the writers have given us is comparing it to LOTR:ROTK. Just like Aragorn came mid battle, I see Cyke doing the same here.

And there were 3 people who came to aide during ROTK. Just like there's 3 possible candidates to come to aide in this battle (Cyke, Angel, Rogue).

[PikaZeroX]

That would be cool. I still think the biggest hint the writers have given us is comparing it to LOTR:ROTK. Just like Aragorn came mid battle, I see Cyke doing the same here.

Where did they say this about the final battle? That's awesome!

[Aiden]

Simon compares the final battle and X3 in general to ROTK often.

I couldn't imagine anyone else as Cyclops. James is perfect IMO

[JokerNick]

Where did they say this about the final battle? That's awesome!

In his head, Meow Meow, they also tell him to start meow moew fires, and to meow meow kill kill meow meow kill

[EndlesIn]

Marsden is a great actor hands down like everyone stated. However if he didn't get the role I think Forbes March would've. They kinda look a like,They're the same age and they're both good actors. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0545296/ what do you think of forbes playing Cyke?

[taintedFB]

I like Forbes, from Mutant X, and recently he's been on a soap. But I think Jimmy is a better actor. I think Forbes would be a better Iceman or Angel. Maybe Havok!

Wouldn't it be cool, if they were able to make X-Men into a TV show. I bet Jimmy would reprise the role of Cyclops (He's done TV, Ally McBeal, Second Noah, etc...)

[SlimDayspring]

Like what I said before, as Much as I like X2 and Singer, I felt that he didn't know what to do with Cyclops (since there were so many characters) so he just made him into a prisioner.
I'm not sure. Cyclops (and I believe Xavier too) were captured by Stryker in the God Loves, Man Kills story that they based X2 on.


The sad thing is...if a person only watched X2 and not the first one, they wouldn't know if Cyclops is the leader or not. They'll see him as the wimpy jealous boyfriend :(
What bothers me is that Cyclops mostly comes off as the jealous boyfriend in X1 as well (because every single character interaction had to revolve around and/or involve Wolverine, so Scott had more screentime with Logan than with Jean), but even though he actually features somewhat in the first film, it was more or less a forgettable experience, especially when compared to X2.

[lordofthenerds]

Simon compares the final battle and X3 in general to ROTK often.

I couldn't imagine anyone else as Cyclops. James is perfect IMO
Wolverine could.

[taintedFB]

The first film was short and the effects could've been better.

But Cyclops was awesome in it. I still wish they had more scenes with him.

What I liked about X-Men was the sense of wonder, awe, and mystery of mutants. I think that was lost in X2, mutants were a given by then.

[JokerNick]

Wolverine could.

he;s already in the fight..........

[invincible mann]

what do we KNOW cyke does for sure in the film?
any cyclops quotes yet ?
and in the simon says thread kinberg was asked
about a photo in empire magazine of cyke in his uniform
he said it was a spoiler and declined to answer
does anybody know more about this photo?
or the scene it pertains to?
before anybody gets too excited it could be for the danger room sequence

[JokerNick]

what do we KNOW cyke does for sure in the film?
any cyclops quotes yet ?
and in the simon says thread kinberg was asked
about a photo in empire magazine of cyke in his uniform
he said it was a spoiler and declined to answer
does anybody know more about this photo?
or the scene it pertains to?
before anybody gets too excited it could be for the danger room sequence

when did he say that?????

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I like Forbes, from Mutant X, and recently he's been on a soap. But I think Jimmy is a better actor. I think Forbes would be a better Iceman or Angel. Maybe Havok!

Wouldn't it be cool, if they were able to make X-Men into a TV show. I bet Jimmy would reprise the role of Cyclops (He's done TV, Ally McBeal, Second Noah, etc...)
Deffinatly Havok since they do look alike!!! It would be so cool!!!

[lordofthenerds]

I just looked at the Q&A with Simon Kinberg over at the Xverse. Look at what he had to say.

Just wondering Simon, have you ever looked at the James Marsden/Cyclops thread on the SHH?

*Yup. I’ve even contributed to it.
Is he Kirby&Ditko? :eek:

[JokerNick]

I just looked at the Q&A with Simon Kinberg over at the Xverse. Look at what he had to say.


Is he Kirby&Ditko? :eek:


I admit it, it's me, I'm Simon........... lol.....

I think it's PhoenixRisen.........

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm not sure. Cyclops (and I believe Xavier too) were captured by Stryker in the God Loves, Man Kills story that they based X2 on.



What bothers me is that Cyclops mostly comes off as the jealous boyfriend in X1 as well (because every single character interaction had to revolve around and/or involve Wolverine, so Scott had more screentime with Logan than with Jean), but even though he actually features somewhat in the first film, it was more or less a forgettable experience, especially when compared to X2.

In a sense Cyclops is kind of the jealous boyfriend. In the comics Logan fell in love with Jean and that's why there was such a deep hatred/annoyance between him and Cyclops.

Cyclops felt that Wolverine couldn't be trusted anyways and the fact that Logan tried putting the moves on Jean made Scott uneasy anyways.

So that part of X1 was very faithful to the comics and the TAS.

[Aiden]

Simon's favourite character is Magneto. Maybe his user name is influenced by Mags?

[LastSunrise1981]

Can I join? :p

I think the x-men in a line can play both ways- Cyclops lives, chills down the spine and all...
Cyclops dies and seeing all of the x-men but him in a row will really make me choke :(

Sure, you can join me if you want. :up: :up:

[PhoenixRisen]

I admit it, it's me, I'm Simon........... lol.....

I think it's PhoenixRisen.........
Me?!?!?!
Well, me and Licorice have our own suspect in mind...but I won't say anything more other than I would not describe him (or her) as being "on the fence".... :D

[Iceman]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8088/morgan2fg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D

This is proof they'll keep Cyke alive. Noone messes with Morgan Freeman :up:

[taintedFB]

This Morgan Freeman stuff is so random and bizarre!

[LastSunrise1981]

This Morgan Freeman stuff is so random and bizarre!

http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2003_Bruce_Almighty/2003_bruce_almighty_011.jpg

[JokerNick]

Me?!?!?!
Well, me and Licorice have our own suspect in mind...but I won't say anything more other than I would not describe him (or her) as being "on the fence".... :D

lol.......... who do yo think it is............ I now think it's L. Strikes..........

Someone should start a thread on this....... it'd be fun,

[taintedFB]

Ha! Yeah, we could call it "Finding Simon" or "Who's Simon" or "SIMON SEEK"

[cyke93]

And another thing I'm tired of is the hate for Wolverine. I bet half of these people were saying "It'd be kick ass to see Wolverine in a movie and have it focus on him", now that they have him for three films, all of a sudden they're tired of him and feel that he's hogging the movie.

When half of them were more than likely worshipping him in X1 and X2.

i wasnt part of that half. in x1 i cud understand the focus on him to get the general audience going but in x2, i would've liked them to branch out to other characters, esp since he will have his own spin off.

n i bet most likely, we'll see a lot of focus on logan in x3, n fans are upset because that focus cud be spent more on other characters since logan will hog an entire movie to himself later on in his own spin off

[JokerNick]

This Morgan Freeman stuff is so random and bizarre!

and that's why it's great................

the ideal x-men cast, if they were alive........................

Proffessor X - George Burns
Cyclops - Morgan Freeman
Jean Grey - Ricki Lake
Storm - Oprah
Logan - Chris Farley
Magneto - Mulcahly Culkan
Mystique - Rosie O'Donald

[cyke93]

nope, they've said that they see Cyclops as Gollum, but instead of at the end, it happens at the beginning...............


hahaha . im rooting for cyclops to live though i doubt it... i find this respone quite funny hehe

[CapBeerCino]

Simon compares the final battle and X3 in general to ROTK often.


I hope Legolas is in :up:
But maybe the Morlocks plays out like the army of dead in rotk? (Leaded by Scott?)

[The Original Bamfer]

good luck trying to find Kinberg, guys :up:

[taintedFB]

So are you guys all posting from home, work, school? I'm at work, and I just keep checking in and chiming in. It's become an obsession! How bout you?

[WorthyStevens]

Home.

[CapBeerCino]

Home.

[LastSunrise1981]

i wasnt part of that half. in x1 i cud understand the focus on him to get the general audience going but in x2, i would've liked them to branch out to other characters, esp since he will have his own spin off.

n i bet most likely, we'll see a lot of focus on logan in x3, n fans are upset because that focus cud be spent more on other characters since logan will hog an entire movie to himself later on in his own spin off

There's a lot of other characters in X3 that will get focus too. You have Jean/Dark Phoenix, Beast, Angel, Juggernaut, and of course The Cure that is the central point of this film as well.

We don't know who is going to get the most focus. But from what we can tell and know at this point, we know that Storm will also be getting a lot of exposure too.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I was at school..now im home...

i handed this project in today ;)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/jeangrey.jpg

The more i see Scott in the t.v spots... the more I wish we saw of him in the trailer. Cyclops Rules! and I love the kiss with Jean. Sweeeeeeeeeet. :O

Oh and I feel like illustrating Scott the same way I did with Jean...

[JokerNick]

So are you guys all posting from home, work, school? I'm at work, and I just keep checking in and chiming in. It's become an obsession! How bout you?

work


christ I shouldn't be on here, but it is an addiction......... why can't I be addicted to something normal, like Cocaine, but nnooooooo, it's gotta be a SH board........... if my ex GF could see me now........lol

[CapBeerCino]

I was at school..now im home...

i handed this project in today ;)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/jeangrey.jpg

The more i see Scott in the t.v spots... the more I wish we saw of him in the trailer. Cyclops Rules! and I love the kiss with Jean. Sweeeeeeeeeet. :O

The "PhoeniXFreaks" and "C2" in your sig look... right together...
Maybe I'll give it a go...

[cyke93]

you can not think about X2 and not think about Cyclops trying to get to jean in the end. Or fighting her in the dam. Fans are scary... i really think you would ruin a movie just to see a proportionate amount of air time... reguardless of the risk to the integrity of the story. Just like Halle Berry.... no talent so and so! Had to go cry that her role wasnt big enough. She was a superstar and all.... and now they made a role to fit her ego. X2 was genius! I mean.... pure genious! Watching it was like watching the matrix for the first time. And unlike most action movies where people die and it dont matter and we dont care... if it wasnt for cyclops role in that movie, I would not have got misty! He pulled the whole movie back and said... "this isnt a movie about pawns... it is a movie about the ones we love, and struggle beside!" And he did a bad ass job! Now we have a third script. And if they kill him in the begining... it is going to be much to the intergrity of the script, or the complexity of Jean. I mean... ****, she kills her lover????? Damn that is intense! (if it happens!) It is brave and bold... i like it.

like i said earlier... if james marsden doesnt want cyclops to die, he didnt have to take on a pathetic role in superman returns when he had promised his time to X3! Just like Issac Hayes with South Park... did we want to see chep die? HELL NO! But it is as much as Issacs as anyone... even more so!

Anyways... i know this is the cyclops thread, but really.... SENTINELS!!!!!!! Big or the small man sized ones? And what is up with wolvering slashing through someones face with his claws and not having pieces of his head falling off in sleeves!?!?!?!?!!

as a a major cyke fans, having sentinals means nothing if cyke bites the big one. cyclops became my fave character when i tuned into fox and saw him blast a sentinals head off.

the thing with x2 is tha they cudve shown at least 1 scene with cyclops during hte middle of the movie.. like when they xavier asks about cyclops and stryker says something bout "re-education" .. i mean a scene of him held captive and possibly beaten would've been totally cool

they did have a deleted scene in x2 where u see cyclops.. i wish they kept that

[Angry Sentinel]

Work...I almost got myself fired yesterday, frantically trying to see the new TV ads, when I needed to be working.

[CapBeerCino]

they did have a deleted scene in x2 where u see cyclops.. i wish they kept that

He wanst doing much in that scene anyways, but the "re-education" thing wasnt used at all.

[JokerNick]

37 more posts and it's up to 10,000

[pt_photo_inc]

as a a major cyke fans, having sentinals means nothing if cyke bites the big one. cyclops became my fave character when i tuned into fox and saw him blast a sentinals head off.

the thing with x2 is tha they cudve shown at least 1 scene with cyclops during hte middle of the movie.. like when they xavier asks about cyclops and stryker says something bout "re-education" .. i mean a scene of him held captive and possibly beaten would've been totally cool

they did have a deleted scene in x2 where u see cyclops.. i wish they kept that

I think they put just the right amount, and i dont think Sentinels and Cyclops are a "have to match up". That is like *****ing about Venom not in spiderman or sabertooth not in xmen anymore! Well, it is like that to a much LOWER degree! Cyclops is kick ass... all i am saying here is there is more politics to this movie that we cant control. So wishing, is nice... but saying that we will or will not like the movie all based off the amount of time one actor gets??????? well... that is just silly

[SlimDayspring]

In a sense Cyclops is kind of the jealous boyfriend. In the comics Logan fell in love with Jean and that's why there was such a deep hatred/annoyance between him and Cyclops.

Cyclops felt that Wolverine couldn't be trusted anyways and the fact that Logan tried putting the moves on Jean made Scott uneasy anyways.

So that part of X1 was very faithful to the comics and the TAS.
The problem was that we never got a chance to see the relationship between Scott and Jean, so if you were just watching the film you'd think that Wolverine (the archetypal loner anti-hero) would get the girl in the end from the clutches of the stuck-up prep school type ******* (i.e. Cyclops).

The major failing of the film (aside from the plot) was that we never got a chance to see Cyclops as the sort of aloof leader that he is, the person who keeps his cool and never lets his emotions get the best of him . So when he broke down at the end of X2 when Jean died, the camera showed a quick shot of a few students, but without the foreshadowing of the type of character that Cyclops is, I think it undermined (what was still) a very emotional scene.

[JokerNick]

I think they put just the right amount, and i dont think Sentinels and Cyclops are a "have to match up". That is like *****ing about Venom not in spiderman or sabertooth not in xmen anymore! Well, it is like that to a much LOWER degree! Cyclops is kick ass... all i am saying here is there is more politics to this movie that we cant control. So wishing, is nice... but saying that we will or will not like the movie all based off the amount of time one actor gets??????? well... that is just silly

that's it, you are Simon...............

[taintedFB]

I KNOW! They should have at least shown Cyclops captured and maybe given the serum. BUt I guess they wanted it to be a surprise when he attacks Jean at the end. I don't think it worked. We immediately knew it was the serum.

[FieryBalrog]

Now we know where Cyclops has been hanging out:

http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/

[_BB_]

that's it, you are Simon...............


hehe, its just going to be constant paranoia from now on. Why simon, why do this to us???:(

[pt_photo_inc]

that's it, you are Simon...............

american idol?

[WorthyStevens]

american idol?

No...

Your Simon Says...

[pt_photo_inc]

Simon represent the killer of dreams? Cause I am not trying to be that. At all. Like i said Marsden is the best card Xtrilogies have!

[CapBeerCino]

I think it undermined (what was still) a very emotional scene.

I understand what you're saying, but I dont think that's the case. Scott was showed as an emotion-in-check kinda guy. Also the fact he was crying in Logan's arms (a guy that he hates) was creating a sufficient affect to show us Cyke is out of character and for the scene not to be 'undermined'.

[Maze]

So are you guys all posting from home, work, school? I'm at work, and I just keep checking in and chiming in. It's become an obsession! How bout you?
home , but i was coming here , all the time at my old job (which had a computer) so i know where you are coming from.

get a shrink before it's too late!:o :D ;)

[pt_photo_inc]

25 to 10,000

[CapBeerCino]

Now we know where Cyclops has been hanging out:

http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/

"Is Wolverine here?"
Omg, even there Cykes being owned!

[Maze]

25 to 10,000
Just saw that too.

it's amazing .:)

[CapBeerCino]

Just saw that too.

it's amazing .:)

Yeah, we rock :o

[Maze]

http://freeweb.supereva.com/comics/news/agosto/marvelnews1_5b.jpg

[Maze]

http://ultimatecomics.free.fr/new_xmen/wallpapers/Cyclops_Wallpaper.jpg

[CapBeerCino]

I must say I love the Movieverse Cyclops the best. (Maybe cause of x-3 around the corner)

[Maze]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/phoenix12.jpg

[WorthyStevens]

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/9323/xmencyclopsbust3bg.jpg

[Maze]

Had the black Queen struck to kill there would nothing of the lad but ashes....

For the people who think that there is not a precedent in the comics for a
Cyclops/Phoenix fight..

[taintedFB]

Wow 16 to go! We should all congratulate who ever posts #10,000!

[aaron]

I must say I love the Movieverse Cyclops the best. (Maybe cause of x-3 around the corner)
i like maybe ultimate cyclops most

[CapBeerCino]

Wow 16 to go! We should all congratulate who ever posts #10,000!

Whoever post # 10k is Simon Kinsberg!!!

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Whoever post # 10k is Simon Kinsberg!!!
Doesn't have to be...

[WorthyStevens]

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2259/xmen432mo.jpg

[Maze]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/article/love11.jpg
A scene that i partcularly love..

[CapBeerCino]

Doesn't have to be...

Okay then-
Whoever post # 10k is a rotten egg! :o


:p

[SCOTT&JEAN]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/article/love11.jpg
A scene that i partcularly love..
I wish something like that would happen and in this film.......

[Maze]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/cyclops21.jpg
i fee emotionnal tonight Lol

Really a touching scene imo.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Okay then-
Whoever post # 10k is a rotten egg! :o


:p
You are only saying that cause it ain't gonna be you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WorthyStevens]

If we have a scene like that in the movie Maze, oh man.

[Angry Sentinel]

I think they put just the right amount, and i dont think Sentinels and Cyclops are a "have to match up". That is like *****ing about Venom not in spiderman or sabertooth not in xmen anymore! Well, it is like that to a much LOWER degree! Cyclops is kick ass... all i am saying here is there is more politics to this movie that we cant control. So wishing, is nice... but saying that we will or will not like the movie all based off the amount of time one actor gets??????? well... that is just sillyYou mean it's more like *****ing about Aunt May not being in Spiderman, or Superman without Lois Lane.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/cyclops21.jpg
i fee emotionnal tonight Lol

Really a touching scene imo.
Touching.....

Where is it from???

[CapBeerCino]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/cyclops21.jpg
i fee emotionnal tonight Lol

Really a touching scene imo.

Can Cyke cry? :confused:

Rotten egg below! :D

[ShadowBoxing]

Can Cyke cry? :confused:Officially they say he can't....he's done a TON of times though

[WorthyStevens]

Can Cyke cry? :confused:

Yup.

[oneteen]

His tears weren't shown in X2.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Can Cyke cry? :confused:

Rotten egg below! :D
Of course he can...

[aaron]

of course, hes a real man ;)

[taintedFB]

ooh, ooh, am i 10,000?

[WorthyStevens]

10k+... :D

[ShadowBoxing]

I posted 10K whoopie

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Of course he can...
10003. We are over 10000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!