Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[CapBeerCino]

whoa, it would be good if everyone died :p then the end would be a baby mutant being born, meaning the world goes on.

I bet It would be Wolverine giving birth to it :o
;)

[flavio_lebeau]

I bet It would be Wolverine giving birth to it :o
;)
at least i hope the baby's claws would hurt his..."you know what i mean" a lot during the birth :o

[FRUITY]

I bet It would be Wolverine giving birth to it :o
;)

ROFLMAO!!!! That would be the death of the X-Men Legacy

[RagingTempest]

I think IF there are people who are going to die, they will be brought back, like Cyke and Pro. X!!!

[flavio_lebeau]

I think IF there are people who are going to die, they will be brought back, like Cyke and Pro. X!!!
you mean the X-men guys, right? because i dont think they would bring back Quills, Arclight...
and i want no returns :O they would be overusing the Jean's formula in X2...

[The Original Bamfer]

I hope not. I hope everyone who dies in this film stays dead, especially Xavier and Magneto. Cyclops, on the other hand, shouldn't be killed at all but rather be made to make us think he is, and then near the end (third act) revealed he's alive... But Cyke is the only exception to the staying dead rule. We can't beat the dead horse and revive anyone who dies... Magneto/Xavier should die, and stay dead... it'd be full circle, and just plain makes sense. For Scott, it doesn't.

[JokerNick]

just incase you guys missed this, this is what i think happens to cyclops after he meets jean at akali lake..............


Jean told scott that logan kissed her in X2, then when logan and storm showed up............cyclops went and hid and waited to ambush wolverine...



http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2189/wolv2vf.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

[CapBeerCino]

ROFLMAO!!!! That would be the death of the X-Men Legacy

Either that or an Oscar moment. :wolverine "Pushhhhhhhh!"

[flavio_lebeau]

I hope not. I hope everyone who dies in this film stays dead, especially Xavier and Magneto. Cyclops, on the other hand, shouldn't be killed at all but rather be made to make us think he is, and then near the end (third act) revealed he's alive... But Cyke is the only exception to the staying dead rule. We can't beat the dead horse and revive anyone who dies... Magneto/Xavier should die, and stay dead... it'd be full circle, and just plain makes sense. For Scott, it doesn't.
I agree. Both Professor and Magneto HAVE to die IMHO...

[CapBeerCino]

I agree. Both Professor and Magneto HAVE to die IMHO...

I dont want the Professor to die! I love having him in the stories, Even in the background.

[Maze]

just incase you guys missed this, this is what i think happens to cyclops after he meets jean at akali lake..............
lol!:D!

Exellent!:up:

[The Original Bamfer]

I dont want the Professor to die! I love having him in the stories, Even in the background.

Eh, its his time. Full Circle - Scott promised to take care of 'them', the X-men if anything happened... and Its about time it does.

[lordofthenerds]

Pyro? Where is that coming from? I hope Jean wont die (unless Scott dies. Then you can kill them all :p)
I wish the Pheonix will be defeated in a way that allows her to come back for x-4. :up:
Well she could kill Magneto and Magneto could kill her, and that would have an effect. :p
BTW Pyro must freeze.

[CapBeerCino]

BTW Pyro must freeze.

The irony :)

[peteapan]

If cyclops dies I just hope the next men films will start a fresh retelling of the story, new actors, characters, original team, everything. I think mags and xavier should die and a couple of magnetos team, with one of the xmen almost dead but us unsure if they will make it

[invincible mann]

magneto probably wont die he has a film coming up
could be badly injured yes i know much of it is a prequel
but we still dont know ian wont be in it
just that right now he doesnt expect to be cast

[peteapan]

magneto probably wont die he has a film coming up
could be badly injured yes i know much of it is a prequel
but we still dont know ian wont be in it
just that right now he doesnt expect to be cast

I think he is a goner. especially with that pic of him on the floor in the final battle. dont think the magneto film will interfere with it cos everyone wants to see a magneto in his prime in his own film

[CapBeerCino]

Can you guys imagine yourself at the cinema if Cyke is indeed getting demulace-whatever?
I'd be literally like :eek: with my jaw hitting the floor.
Then I'll go home to whine to you guys. :(

[WorthyStevens]

Imagine seeing Slim coming back at the end, saving everyone's asses. ;)

[lordofthenerds]

Imagine seeing Slim coming back at the end, saving everyone's asses. ;)
No offense, but that would be corny and stupid. :p

[flavio_lebeau]

i think both way will be corny, but i'll like it anyways, dead Scott or non-dead Scott

[CapBeerCino]

Imagine seeing Slim coming back at the end, saving everyone's asses. ;)

While we're at it Imagine Slim getting a spin off with Logan as his side kick! :D

[peteapan]

I dont think Cyke is ever gonna take Wolvys role as main hero. I got annoyed at hearing Wolverines line in the final battle scene, him shouting out "whatever you do, hold you're line" just doesnt fit. it should be cyke saying that, silly behind scenes video not showing cyke

[flavio_lebeau]

I dont think Cyke is ever gonna take Wolvys role as main hero. I got annoyed at hearing Wolverines line in the final battle scene, him shouting out "whatever you do, hold you're line" just doesnt fit. it should be cyke saying that, silly behind scenes video not showing cyke
well, that happens early in the batttle, Cyke might show up later and take control (though i think he will be too focused on Jean to lead the group).

[CapBeerCino]

I dont think Cyke is ever gonna take Wolvys role as main hero. I got annoyed at hearing Wolverines line in the final battle scene, him shouting out "whatever you do, hold you're line" just doesnt fit. it should be cyke saying that, silly behind scenes video not showing cyke

I missed that, but OUCH! :(

[LastSunrise1981]

I just thought of something. What if Cyclops is the one who blasted Magneto away? In the picture Magneto is on the ground and appears to be dying(Maybe). But what if Cyclops is the one who blasts him away in that scene?

[CapBeerCino]

I just thought of something. What if Cyclops is the one who blasted Magneto away? In the picture Magneto is on the ground and appears to be dying(Maybe). But what if Cyclops is the one who blasts him away in that scene?

Im all for it, but there no evidence leading that way. Love your avvy btw!

[LastSunrise1981]

Im all for it, but there no evidence leading that way. Love your avvy btw!

Thanks, yours is pretty cool too. :up:

I know there's not a good chance of that happening. But I'd jump for joy if that was the surprise in X3. :) :up:

[Kurosawa]

I dont think Cyke is ever gonna take Wolvys role as main hero. I got annoyed at hearing Wolverines line in the final battle scene, him shouting out "whatever you do, hold you're line" just doesnt fit. it should be cyke saying that, silly behind scenes video not showing cyke

That's just sickening. And the behind the scenes video is just MORE proof that the AICN report is a 100% lock.

Again, all involved can go straight to hell.

[LastSunrise1981]

That's just sickening. And the behind the scenes video is just MORE proof that the AICN report is a 100% lock.

Again, all involved can go straight to hell.

You decided to show up again? Behind The Scenes video isn't 100% proof that anything is a lock. Ever think they're going to surprise the fans and non-fans by having Cyke appear in the end?

[Asteroid-Man]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/x2__x_men_united/_group_photos/famke_janssen18.jpgquestion, this is at the end of X2 in the presidents office. But why is jean in here???

[CapBeerCino]

question, this is at the end of X2 in the presidents office. But why is jean in here???

Making us think she wont die.

[WorthyStevens]

That's just sickening. And the behind the scenes video is just MORE proof that the AICN report is a 100% lock.

Again, all involved can go straight to hell.

:confused:

Beast, Colossus, Kitty, Rogue, Iceman, nor Storm were in the behind the scenes clip either. Are they not at the final battle either? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And saying that it's proof the report is a 100% lock is really stupid, moronic and idiotic.

[Aiden]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/x2__x_men_united/_group_photos/famke_janssen18.jpgquestion, this is at the end of X2 in the presidents office. But why is jean in here???FOX were playing tricksy's on us

[Latin_Princess1]

i remeber that...that was funni! Lol!

[LastSunrise1981]

:confused:

Beast, Colossus, Kitty, Rogue, Iceman, nor Storm were in the behind the scenes clip either. Are they not at the final battle either? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And saying that it's proof the report is a 100% lock is really stupid, moronic and idiotic.

Don't mind him. He's been whining about Cyclops since day one and has been trying to force his "all knowing" knowledge on everyone.

I'll wait for him to return if and when Cyclops returns to the final battle. :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

the reel bloopers showed Jean showing up late in the photoshoot :p it was funny. heh.

[WorthyStevens]

Don't mind him. He's been whining about Cyclops since day one and has been trying to force his "all knowing" knowledge on everyone.

I'll wait for him to return if and when Cyclops returns to the final battle. :)

I can't wait for that either.

[flavio_lebeau]

the reel bloopers showed Jean showing up late in the photoshoot :p it was funny. heh.
she said she had to park the jet :cool: lol

[CapBeerCino]

the reel bloopers showed Jean showing up late in the photoshoot :p it was funny. heh.

I wish for a blooper reel in x-3! ("we wrote in the script to kill Cyclops? oops!")

[grey_jeanie]

the reel bloopers showed Jean showing up late in the photoshoot :p it was funny. heh.

Oh yeah I remember that. Although I saw it just after I watched the movie (and her death) for the first time. My mind was in turmoil. I was very confused :confused:

[CapBeerCino]

Useless fact:
In the Storm thread 166 users voted in the poll.
In the Cyclops thread 196 users voted in the poll.
I just needed to get that off my chest :D

[N_z0]

I bet It would be Wolverine giving birth to it :o
;)

Makes sense since they seem to be giving Wolverine everyone else's role.

:p :(

[taintedFB]

I think the deaths will be Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, and MAYBE Jean...

I hope she survives, but if she has committed atrocities, how could she not be held accountable? It is the same dilemma they faced in the comics!

In any event, I am not naive enough to think Cyclops will save the day, but I do believe he will return late to the battle and turn Jean good, and ulimately, she will end the battle, and possibly sacrifice herself in the process.

Then, in X4, they may introduce Emma Frost as a possible villain who turns good and leads the school with Scott.

[Redd_Angel]

nooo ... not emma frost!

:mad:




sorry, i just don't like her :o

[BMM]

I think the deaths will be Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, and MAYBE Jean...

I hope she survives, but if she has committed atrocities, how could she not be held accountable? It is the same dilemma they faced in the comics!

In any event, I am not naive enough to think Cyclops will save the day, but I do believe he will return late to the battle and turn Jean good, and ulimately, she will end the battle, and possibly sacrifice herself in the process.

Then, in X4, they may introduce Emma Frost as a possible villain who turns good and leads the school with Scott.

I think if they were to ever introduce Emma Frost, X3 would have been the movie to do it, given the storyline.

[DarknessOfDeath]

okay guys. GOOD NEWS!! :D I just found a program to upload movie clips from the X-Men movies! :D I uploaded a few batch of em from X2 :D

[SCOTT&JEAN]

okay guys. GOOD NEWS!! :D I just found a program to upload movie clips from the X-Men movies! :D I uploaded a few batch of em from X2 :D
Very good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's time to make that Scott/Jean video you were talking about!!!!!

What's the program you found???? Could you post a link for me to download it from the interet????

Thanks!!!!!!

[WorthyStevens]

okay guys. GOOD NEWS!! :D I just found a program to upload movie clips from the X-Men movies! :D I uploaded a few batch of em from X2 :D

Didn't you just post this in another thread?

[DarknessOfDeath]

I did...yes.. but I thought I post it since the video will have BOTH SCOTT AND JEAN IN IT!! :)

the program is called AoA DVD Ripper

[Asteroid-Man]

I took a manip by JockerNick and added to it. This is how the directors cut should be!
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9959/byecyclops7yt.jpg

[Halcohol]

^:eek:

very cool

[lordofthenerds]

^Lol, but I think this was the wrong thread to put that in. http://www.smileys.ws/smls/angry/00000034.gif

[gambitfire]

my sentiments exactly. BTW i stole your smiley :D

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

roflmao

[Asteroid-Man]

but its the cyclops thread and it involves cyclops. Its just my guesse as to what could happen :D

[gambitfire]

you just said you hate cykes on the album thread. SHAME ON YOU!!!!! :D

[MoiBijou]

http://216.32.95.41/images/smilies/point.gif

[migs]

[quote=taintedFB]I think the deaths will be Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, and MAYBE Jean...

I hope she survives, but if she has committed atrocities, how could she not be held accountable? It is the same dilemma they faced in the comics!

quote]

jean definitely has to die. She will not end up staying with magneto, and no prison could hold her. She has to kill at least a few people in the battle. I kinda think her death is a given.

[gambitfire]

stole your smiley moi!! :D I'm a sucker for Smiley's

[MoiBijou]

I had stolen it too, so... do it as you please. :D

[WorthyStevens]

http://216.32.95.41/images/smilies/point.gif

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/ScottStevensDevils/106484.jpg

[MoiBijou]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/ScottStevensDevils/106484.jpg

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/owned-41174.jpg

:marv:

[LEX]

I took a manip by JockerNick and added to it. This is how the directors cut should be!
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9959/byecyclops7yt.jpg
It's not funny. :o Lmao.

[WorthyStevens]

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/owned-41174.jpg

:marv:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/ScottStevensDevils/251ead48.jpg

:cool:

[MoiBijou]

:cool:

Edit

(But I want you to know, Worthy, I. Hate. You. :thing:)

:p

[LEX]

That's just disgusting.

[MoiBijou]

That's just disgusting.

For that I put this line: Too strong for sensitive people.

Anyway, I'll remove it.

[WorthyStevens]

Edit

(But I want you to know, Worthy, I. Hate. You. :thing:)

:p

Join the club. ;) :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/ScottStevensDevils/owned_help.jpg

[MoiBijou]

:D:up:

[LEX]

For that I put this line: Too strong for sensitive people.

Anyway, I'll remove it.
No, no, I didn't mean for it to come out harshly. Maybe I should've put in an emoticon. :O

[Asteroid-Man]

Lmao!

[MoiBijou]

^^No, it doesn't matter: it was indeed disgusting. Surely LS would have asked me to remove it anyway. :)

[LEX]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Poor bird. Damn cars.

[lordofthenerds]

I want to see the disturbing pic that Moi posted. :D

[Aiden]

So do I!

[MoiBijou]

I was a bird killed by a car, so you don't want to see it. Poor animal.

[LEX]

It was an OWNED! pic with a dead bird w/o a head.

[Aiden]

Was it the one with the bit of roadkill with road lines painted over it?

[lordofthenerds]

I take back what I said earlier. How could you post such a thing Moi? :( :p

[LEX]

No, it wasn't. More like a whole dead bird w/o a head and lots and lots of blood.

[MoiBijou]

Ask Worthy: he took my nerves and I defended myself. He's the one guilty, he destroyed my mind's purity! :(

*weeps*


:p

[Aiden]

I wanna see it...

[WorthyStevens]

Ask Worthy: he took my nerves and I defended myself. He's the one guilty, he destroyed my mind's purity! :(

*weeps*


:p

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8733/mrburns8vj.jpg

:p

[LEX]

Curiousity is such a dangerous thing...and it killed a cat.

[Kurosawa]

Don't mind him. He's been whining about Cyclops since day one and has been trying to force his "all knowing" knowledge on everyone.

I'll wait for him to return if and when Cyclops returns to the final battle. :)

You guys are seriously clutching at straws.

[Optic Rage]

Come on Kura even you have to admit that the chances of Scott returning at the final battle are pretty high now.

[CapBeerCino]

You guys are seriously clutching at straws.
Its fun, gives you something to wait for. You should try it!

[LEX]

There are still naysayers? Geez...

[WorthyStevens]

You guys are seriously clutching at straws.

Hey, we're not the one making idiotic statements like 'the new MSN video proves the AICN script's right.' :rolleyes:

[TromaFreak64]

We really don't have that much more time until the answers are going to be revealed.

[grey_jeanie]

Only a few weeks

[CapBeerCino]

Only a few weeks

:eek: Omg yes. (told ya im slow...)

[grey_jeanie]

:eek: Omg yes. (told ya im slow...)

:) but I didn't believe you

[Aiden]

5.85 weeks!!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

You guys are seriously clutching at straws.

You're the one who disappears when all signs point to Cyclops living and then all of a sudden because a behind the scenes footage doesn't show him, out of nowhere you show up and proclaim it's 100% proof he dies.

Go somewhere else and cry dude, no one is really buying your act anymore. You'll still be the first one in line come the 26th of May and even if he dies, you still won't leave the theater.

So, please spare us of your act.

[cyke93]

You're the one who disappears when all signs point to Cyclops living and then all of a sudden because a behind the scenes footage doesn't show him, out of nowhere you show up and proclaim it's 100% proof he dies.

Go somewhere else and cry dude, no one is really buying your act anymore. You'll still be the first one in line come the 26th of May and even if he dies, you still won't leave the theater.

So, please spare us of your act.

the question about his death is one of the most asked questions they recieve, if not the most (i hope) .. so it wouldn't be smart of them to either confirm or deny it with a "behind the scenes" video. i havent watched the video because i want to just keep my spoilers soley focused on cyclops "death" but the video prolly doesnt prove anything, though i still think he'll bite the dust.

[CapBeerCino]

the question about his death is one of the most asked questions they recieve, if not the most (i hope) .. so it wouldn't be smart of them to either confirm or deny it with a "behind the scenes" video. i havent watched the video because i want to just keep my spoilers soley focused on cyclops "death" but the video prolly doesnt prove anything, though i still think he'll bite the dust.

In that case you can rest easy - I didnt learn anything new from that video.

[Aiden]

We did learn that Famke didn't do many stunts

[flavio_lebeau]

We did learn that Famke didn't do many stunts
she SAYS she doeesnt do many stunts...

[Aiden]

Apart from that. Basically nothing

[cyke93]

We did learn that Famke didn't do many stunts

alright i caved and i just watched that lil interview with famke when they talk about stunts... what is interesting is what she says about how her character affects the other characters.. esp in the stunt department. . makes me think she talking about logan when she throws him across the room or demolecularizes cyclops.

[LastSunrise1981]

Would Famke have to do many stunts as Phoenix though? I imagine her getting into a battle and maybe being thrown around, but nothing too major like what Beast, Logan, or what Storm have to do.

The character of Phoenix is pretty powerful and not too many mutants could physically take her down. Well, lets face it, no mutant could really take her down if they tried.

I have yet to see this behind the scenes footage, but I will say that just because Famke says "It affects everyone" doesn't mean that it's absolute death for Scott. They could mean affect everyone in an emotional, powerful, and dark way which is what the Phoenix saga is all about.

I really don't believe Brett or the writers would stray away from the source material and kill off Scott, seeing as he didn't die in the Phoenix saga.

[WorthyStevens]

Would Famke have to do many stunts as Phoenix though? I imagine her getting into a battle and maybe being thrown around, but nothing too major like what Beast, Logan, or what Storm have to do.

The character of Phoenix is pretty powerful and not too many mutants could physically take her down. Well, lets face it, no mutant could really take her down if they tried.

I have yet to see this behind the scenes footage, but I will say that just because Famke says "It affects everyone" doesn't mean that it's absolute death for Scott. They could mean affect everyone in an emotional, powerful, and dark way which is what the Phoenix saga is all about.

I really don't believe Brett or the writers would stray away from the source material and kill off Scott, seeing as he didn't die in the Phoenix saga.

Edit

[LastSunrise1981]

I get your point, but dude, edit that part quick!

My fault. I was typing too fast and I'm running only on a few hours of sleep.

But I fixed it. :) :up:

[WorthyStevens]

My fault. I was typing too fast and I'm running only on a few hours of sleep.

But I fixed it. :) :up:

;) :up:

I just didn't want anyone to twist your words around.

[flavio_lebeau]

strangely, the first time i read it, i got as "it doesnt mean he dies". I must be reading too fast

[wobbly]

Hey!

You take your negativity elsewhere Mister! LOL.

I think alot more that points to his survival. And I'm talking evidence. Meaning "LACK OF FOOTAGE" is not evidence. The only evidence that would prove his death is actually seeing him die.

And nobody will know until they see the movie. Also, we have several quotes and promo pics of Scott in uniform suggesting that he will survive beyond Alkali Lake and get his act together to save Jean.
I agree fully none of us knows for sure until the movie is out but I prefer to adopt a 'glass half-empty' approach with these flicks as it does help to lessen the blow if there's anything I don't like in them.

Also, I've seen similar to this before last year with the FF movie. There was a very early (pre-casting) script review, the official word as filming began was things had changed significantly from that script, and despite all info coming from the film confirming the accuracy of that script fan optimism was hoping against hope Doom might actually be a good character. Hell, we were even speculating on evidence that was never even used in the movie they might even have jazzed up the Things design for the final act, but Doom still sucked and the Thing remained in his less than overwhelming design throughout. So basically I think until you know otherwise it's better to assume that when you see something match what you've heard (good or bad), odds are that's what your gonna get. If it's something you don't like and your wrong, thats a pleasant surprise. If your right, at least you were forewarned.

As for your evidence that he survives...I guess that again depends on wether you have a glass half-empty or full pov. For me the promo pics are just that, promo's and nothing more atm. Afaik, no stills from the film itself of Cyke beyond Alkali lake have yet to emerge at all so far, and the quotes which may suggest he lives are vague at best. That isn't surprising as they don't want to give much away, but to draw hope and also arrive at the conclusion from them that Scott is back in the game at the end to save Jean is pure speculation and maybe a little too naive all things considered (imo, at any rate). For me the absence of anything post alkali lake combined with the Aicn script details of that scene being ominously confimed in what we have seen, far outweighs a few promo pics and vague quotes.

Lastly, I do sincerely hope to hell my pessimism is proved wrong and Cyke lives, and should that be the case my hat will be off to all of you keeping the faith.:)

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree fully none of us knows for sure until the movie is out but I prefer to adopt a 'glass half-empty' approach with these flicks as it does help to lessen the blow if there's anything I don't like in them.

Also, I've seen similar to this before last year with the FF movie. There was a very early (pre-casting) script review, the official word as filming began was things had changed significantly from that script, and despite all info coming from the film confirming the accuracy of that script fan optimism was hoping against hope Doom might actually be a good character. Hell, we were even speculating on evidence that was never even used in the movie they might even have jazzed up the Things design for the final act, but Doom still sucked and the Thing remained in his less than overwhelming design throughout. So basically I think until you know otherwise it's better to assume that when you see something match what you've heard (good or bad), odds are that's what your gonna get. If it's something you don't like and your wrong, thats a pleasant surprise. If your right, at least you were forewarned.

As for your evidence that he survives...I guess that again depends on wether you have a glass half-empty or full pov. For me the promo pics are just that, promo's and nothing more atm. Afaik, no stills from the film itself of Cyke beyond Alkali lake have yet to emerge at all so far, and the quotes which may suggest he lives are vague at best. That isn't surprising as they don't want to give much away, but to draw hope and also arrive at the conclusion from them that Scott is back in the game at the end to save Jean is pure speculation and maybe a little too naive all things considered (imo, at any rate). For me the absence of anything post alkali lake combined with the Aicn script details of that scene being ominously confimed in what we have seen, far outweighs a few promo pics and vague quotes.

Lastly, I do sincerely hope to hell my pessimism is proved wrong and Cyke lives, and should that be the case my hat will be off to all of you keeping the faith.:)

Maybe you are right. But something tells me we're going to be surprised and that Cyke will play an important role in this film.

Look I don't know for a fact and none of us do, but it's something inside telling me that he'll live and it will be an emotional return. I truly don't believe they would stray so far from the material and kill him off in a lame way.

Hey if he dies then he dies, I won't lose any sleep or walk out of the theater over it. Something tells me he'll live and that we're going to happy with this movie.

I just hope this film is over two hours, that way it provides enough storytime and more mindblowing visuals.

[BMM]

I think this series would truly be ending on a low note if Cyclops dies, especially during the Dark Phoenix Saga of all things. It would be a perversion of the source material (the biggest) . . . a slap in the face to one of the best X-Men storylines of all time. Hopefully, he will not die (especially if Xavier is set to kick it as well . . . and God only knows what happens to Jean). Hopefully, Cyclops comes back in a big way at the end . . . and not via resurrection as I think that just cheapens the drama and impact of the material.

[cyke93]

I agree fully none of us knows for sure until the movie is out but I prefer to adopt a 'glass half-empty' approach with these flicks as it does help to lessen the blow if there's anything I don't like in them.

Also, I've seen similar to this before last year with the FF movie. There was a very early (pre-casting) script review, the official word as filming began was things had changed significantly from that script, and despite all info coming from the film confirming the accuracy of that script fan optimism was hoping against hope Doom might actually be a good character. Hell, we were even speculating on evidence that was never even used in the movie they might even have jazzed up the Things design for the final act, but Doom still sucked and the Thing remained in his less than overwhelming design throughout. So basically I think until you know otherwise it's better to assume that when you see something match what you've heard (good or bad), odds are that's what your gonna get. If it's something you don't like and your wrong, thats a pleasant surprise. If your right, at least you were forewarned.

As for your evidence that he survives...I guess that again depends on wether you have a glass half-empty or full pov. For me the promo pics are just that, promo's and nothing more atm. Afaik, no stills from the film itself of Cyke beyond Alkali lake have yet to emerge at all so far, and the quotes which may suggest he lives are vague at best. That isn't surprising as they don't want to give much away, but to draw hope and also arrive at the conclusion from them that Scott is back in the game at the end to save Jean is pure speculation and maybe a little too naive all things considered (imo, at any rate). For me the absence of anything post alkali lake combined with the Aicn script details of that scene being ominously confimed in what we have seen, far outweighs a few promo pics and vague quotes.

Lastly, I do sincerely hope to hell my pessimism is proved wrong and Cyke lives, and should that be the case my hat will be off to all of you keeping the faith.:)

excellent post. i could not agree with you more. we have not seen anything post alkali lake and thats the bottom line, for all we know, they could open the sequence up in the danger room where cyclops would be in uniform. and the bitter taste of disappointment was felt the last time in x2. cyclops was shown in the trailers n tv spots for x2 but all the scenes showed were basically the ones he was in .. i doubt nothing is different in x3. i do hope i am wrong, completely, but right now the cons outweigh the pro.

[cyke93]

I think this series would truly be ending on a low note if Cyclops dies, especially during the Dark Phoenix Saga of all things. It would be a perversion of the source material (the biggest) . . . a slap in the face to one of the best X-Men storylines of all time. Hopefully, he will not die (especially if Xavier is set to kick it as well . . . and God only knows what happens to Jean). Hopefully, Cyclops comes back in a big way at the end . . . and not via resurrection as I think that just cheapens the drama and impact of the material.

it would be a slap to THE greatest storyline in x-men history, not to mention marvel history.

[The Infernal]

Agreed.

Demolecularizing him is NOT the answer. Let him be an emotional wreck and therefore unfit to lead for a while. It's happened in the comics and it can happen here too.

Killing him is not only stupid, but it's unneccessary, as Scott has never died in the comics.

This could lead to Storm becoming leader, which she should anyway if he dies or becomes a wreck. This would be a great opportunity for Halle as it would give her character the much deserved development that she has lacked in the last two.

Though knowing Fox they will probably have Wolverine become leader. Don't get me wrong I love the movie version of him but I realise like most people do that he is not leader material, the X-men are not soldiers in the same way he is.

[LastSunrise1981]

This could lead to Storm becoming leader, which she should anyway if he dies or becomes a wreck. This would be a great opportunity for Halle as it would give her character the much deserved development that she has lacked in the last two.

Though knowing Fox they will probably have Wolverine become leader. Don't get me wrong I love the movie version of him but I realise like most people do that he is not leader material, the X-men are not soldiers in the same way he is.

I HOPE Wolverine doesn't become the leader at all. I don't mind his character and Hugh Jackman portrays him amazingly, but to make him the leader would be a slap in the face to Marvel comic fans.

I still have hope for Scott though. :up:

[Kurosawa]

You're the one who disappears when all signs point to Cyclops living and then all of a sudden because a behind the scenes footage doesn't show him, out of nowhere you show up and proclaim it's 100% proof he dies.

Go somewhere else and cry dude, no one is really buying your act anymore. You'll still be the first one in line come the 26th of May and even if he dies, you still won't leave the theater.

So, please spare us of your act.

There's no signs point towards him living. A promo picture of him in costume? An image in the background that looks like a guy in shades? Weak.

AICN got the FF spoilers right. The good ones (Thing and Torch being close to their comic counterparts) and the bad (idiot corporate 5th Beatle Dr. Doom)

They got the Superman Returns stuff right.

They had the info on General Grievous from SW III a year before anyone else.

Everything else from their report except for possibly the Wolverine/Storm relationship has been accurate. The cure, the Angel scene...all dead-on.

There's a lot better information pointing towards Cyke dying in a stupid manner than there is in him making a heroic return at the end to lead the X-Men to victory. That's a pipe dream, a fantasy.

Cyclops dies in the first 25 minutes of the movie and his place is taken in the Dark Phoenix part of the storyline by Wolverine and as X-Men leader by Storm and Wolverine. The only part of that that isn't 100% disgusting is Storm leading the team, as she's lead them before in the comics.

I'd love to be wrong. But I seriously doubt that I am.

[Storm22]

I think Wolverine will try to be a leader but struggle at it and that's where, I hope, Cyclops will come back and show him how it's done. I think the whole Wolverine having to step up as a leader is being done to show that not everyone's a natural leader/adept as a leader - Wolverine might be too wreckless or something!

[RagingTempest]

This could lead to Storm becoming leader, which she should anyway if he dies or becomes a wreck. This would be a great opportunity for Halle as it would give her character the much deserved development that she has lacked in the last two.

Though knowing Fox they will probably have Wolverine become leader. Don't get me wrong I love the movie version of him but I realise like most people do that he is not leader material, the X-men are not soldiers in the same way he is.

I think is great to see Storm leading finally, but still, we haven't seen Cyclops lead that much. In X1, he had that scene where his showing Magneto's plan and flying the X-Jet, that's it. Cyclops is suppose to be a great leader, but this films never show that. I think Bryan Singer was too obsessed with Wolverine to give a damn.:down

[flavio_lebeau]

I think Wolverine will try to be a leader but struggle at it and that's where, I hope, Cyclops will come back and show him how it's done. I think the whole Wolverine having to step up as a leader is being done to show that not everyone's a natural leader/adept as a leader - Wolverine might be too wreckless or something!
i dont think we will have time for a leader Cyclops. If he comes back in the end, i think he will be totally focused on Jean...
maybe he'll ddo some damage to sentinelss/soldiers/brotherhood but i think his main action will be towards Jean...

[LastSunrise1981]

There's no signs point towards him living. A promo picture of him in costume? An image in the background that looks like a guy in shades? Weak.

AICN got the FF spoilers right. The good ones (Thing and Torch being close to their comic counterparts) and the bad (idiot corporate 5th Beatle Dr. Doom)

They got the Superman Returns stuff right.

They had the info on General Grievous from SW III a year before anyone else.

Everything else from their report except for possibly the Wolverine/Storm relationship has been accurate. The cure, the Angel scene...all dead-on.

There's a lot better information pointing towards Cyke dying in a stupid manner than there is in him making a heroic return at the end to lead the X-Men to victory. That's a pipe dream, a fantasy.

Cyclops dies in the first 25 minutes of the movie and his place is taken in the Dark Phoenix part of the storyline by Wolverine and as X-Men leader by Storm and Wolverine. The only part of that that isn't 100% disgusting is Storm leading the team, as she's lead them before in the comics.

I'd love to be wrong. But I seriously doubt that I am.

Actually none of what you said has been 100% confirmed. If they had nothing to hide about Cyke, I believe they would've said something and it eventually would've leaked some way.

So no, I don't believe you are right on this.

AICN got some stuff right, big deal, so what? Should they get a cookie? I don't care what was proven right on their part, they're not the all-knowing website. Brett and the writers have nothing to hide. I believe if Cyke was dead we would've already known it by now.

And it's already been confirmed that James came back for more filming, so again your argument goes out of the window. Truth is no one knows what will happen and that's what is awesome.

So in closing I say this to you. http://www.lucasalexander.dk/images/Arnold-Stop-Whining-sizdow.jpg

[taintedFB]

Agreed. I think with all that's going on with Jean, Scott won't be involved in fighting the brotherhood or dealing with the cure. Unless he uses the cure on PHoenix at the end. And then she sacrifices herself, saving HIM from something....

Who knows... but I think he lives. And reading Marsden's quote about the uniform.... I don't think actors think of one promo shoot when they talk about returning to a movie. The fact that he mentions the uniform suggests he does wear it IN THE FILM, since that was the context in which the quote was taken....

Also, let's not forget, Cyclops could have survived and returned in the third act EVEN back in the AICN review... so I still think he lives and comes back at the end....

Besides, I think its smarter to lead people to think he dies, and have him survive, then to lead people to think he lives, then kill him, THAT WOULD BE STUPID!

[cyke93]

There's no signs point towards him living. A promo picture of him in costume? An image in the background that looks like a guy in shades? Weak.

AICN got the FF spoilers right. The good ones (Thing and Torch being close to their comic counterparts) and the bad (idiot corporate 5th Beatle Dr. Doom)

They got the Superman Returns stuff right.

They had the info on General Grievous from SW III a year before anyone else.

Everything else from their report except for possibly the Wolverine/Storm relationship has been accurate. The cure, the Angel scene...all dead-on.

There's a lot better information pointing towards Cyke dying in a stupid manner than there is in him making a heroic return at the end to lead the X-Men to victory. That's a pipe dream, a fantasy.

Cyclops dies in the first 25 minutes of the movie and his place is taken in the Dark Phoenix part of the storyline by Wolverine and as X-Men leader by Storm and Wolverine. The only part of that that isn't 100% disgusting is Storm leading the team, as she's lead them before in the comics.

I'd love to be wrong. But I seriously doubt that I am.


agreed on mostly everything you said. looking back on AICN's history, they got a knack for getting things right. With that said, this could also be wrong, but in the past they have been pretty reliable for the most part. They may get little details mixed up but the basic things still stick.

despite revlations of cyclops in a promo pic and what not, that is still not definative proof that he lives. again, he could be in uniform in the beg. of the film, we just do not know.

by all accounts, what could've been cyclops role in all this has been delegated to either storm or logan. storm was leader of the gold team in the comics, so yeah having her be leader is somewhat ok with me since it was in the comics. having logan lead would just be the dumbest thing they can do and insult the fan's intelligence. also having logan be jean's emotional support during phoenix is also an insult to every person who has read and enjoyed the dark phoenix saga. but for the genre they created in the films, it fits. there has been more heat on screen between logan and jean than jean and scott. logan has been given most of the attention because he is the money maker, the fan favorite, x1 would not be a hit if it wasn't for him. after nightcrawler's amazing opener in x2, fox should've known that they didn't need to have the movie center around wolverine but they did it anyways n they will do it again in x3, n what better way to do that than to help jean come back to the good guys.

thjere was a quote a while back that said jean will be with logan for one night but scott for life... well logan will mention something bout cyclops to jean and that'll get her to turn, that's what im thinking.

[WorthyStevens]

There's no signs point towards him living. A promo picture of him in costume? An image in the background that looks like a guy in shades? Weak.

AICN got the FF spoilers right. The good ones (Thing and Torch being close to their comic counterparts) and the bad (idiot corporate 5th Beatle Dr. Doom)

They got the Superman Returns stuff right.

They had the info on General Grievous from SW III a year before anyone else.

Everything else from their report except for possibly the Wolverine/Storm relationship has been accurate. The cure, the Angel scene...all dead-on.

There's a lot better information pointing towards Cyke dying in a stupid manner than there is in him making a heroic return at the end to lead the X-Men to victory. That's a pipe dream, a fantasy.

Cyclops dies in the first 25 minutes of the movie and his place is taken in the Dark Phoenix part of the storyline by Wolverine and as X-Men leader by Storm and Wolverine. The only part of that that isn't 100% disgusting is Storm leading the team, as she's lead them before in the comics.

I'd love to be wrong. But I seriously doubt that I am.

A promo is not weak. EVERY person that has worn a uniform in their promo, has ACTUALLY worn it in the film it's promoted for.

I still think you want him to die. You shrug off everything that points to him living.

[cyke93]

i hope he still lives but im not banking on it

[PhePhe112]

they would have to be absolute IDIOTS/MORONS/RETARDS to kill cyclops off for good. right now i'm 99.9% sure cyke will be alive for the final battle.:cyclops:

[vanillacyke]

After everything that's gone down. I'm going with CYCLOPS LIVES!!!! or if he dies he goes out as he should a HERO! They'd be idiots to have ignored the cyclops fans after all we've done anyways.

[cyke93]

well, if cyclops fate has been altered because of the fan reaction, then that will be of some comfort

look at the statistics here, the thread with the most replies and one of the top views .. at least it will be good to know that if cyclops dies, i have a place where i can find a lot of people who will share in my grief and give fox hell hahaha

[WorthyStevens]

Zak, has there ever been a moment during the writing of X3 when you wish you could have asked people on sites like this or Superherohype for their views, posted a poll or asked a crucial question on a character, to see what the answer/consensus was?

* Who says we haven't?

Hmm...

[Halcohol]

Hmm...
Hmm... what? They've been lurking in the shadows? Observing our every move? We're like rats, LAB RATS, ALL OF US! WE'RE TRAPPED IN A MAZE! Or worse! They could be pretending to BE ONE OF US! DO YOU KNOW WHO'S REALLY POSTING? Hurry! Sound the alarm! Hide the women and children!


...aaaaaaaaaand scene.

[The Original Bamfer]

My avatar rocks! :D

[WorthyStevens]

It's quite amazing. :up:

[vanillacyke]

Yes TOB, Greatest Avatar EVER! :D

[Halcohol]

My avatar rocks! :D
It's really cool. I really enjoy the one I have now, and the one I had previously with Legends footage thrown in.

xwolverine2, lex, weatherwitch, dod, roma, and so many more all do such amazing things on this board, both manips and avatars.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Like mine!

Roma made mine for me, I love it!

My avatar is so cool that another member stole it and used it for himself!!!

:)

[The Original Bamfer]

Yeah, there are some awesome avatar makers here... Lex gets all the credit for mine!

[LEX]

*blushes* :O

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Bamfer, your's is awesome.

I like the Storm "evolution" one (not X-Men Evolution, but as in, her evolution) with stills of her from each movie. I think it's JustABill's avatar, but I could be wrong.

I like the flashing Sentinel one too.

And of course mine :)

But um, this is the Cyclops thread, not the avatar thread, so *in best Lightning Strikez voice* back on topic [/lightningstrikez]

Cyclops lives. I don't care what Kurosawa or whatever his name says. Even the Alkali Lake scene hasn't played out the way the AICN script review describes, so no, the TV spots and trailers aren't evidence towards it's accuracy. The scene of Jean and Scott, and her taking off his glasses, and them kissing, is straight from the comics. That's why it's still similar to the AICN script, because the AICN script was very reminiscent of an actual comic book occurance.

[Halcohol]

You know, Nell, you make significant contributions to these boards despite your "M.I.A." status ;)

[WorthyStevens]

Bamfer, your's is awesome.

I like the Storm "evolution" one (not X-Men Evolution, but as in, her evolution) with stills of her from each movie. I think it's JustABill's avatar, but I could be wrong.

I like the flashing Sentinel one too.

And of course mine :)

But um, this is the Cyclops thread, not the avatar thread, so *in best Lightning Strikez voice* back on topic [/lightningstrikez]

Cyclops lives. I don't care what Kurosawa or whatever his name says. Even the Alkali Lake scene hasn't played out the way the AICN script review describes, so no, the TV spots and trailers aren't evidence towards it's accuracy. The scene of Jean and Scott, and her taking off his glasses, and them kissing, is straight from the comics. That's why it's still similar to the AICN script, because the AICN script was very reminiscent of an actual comic book occurance.

Exactemundo. :up:

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

You know, Nell, you make significant contributions to these boards despite your "M.I.A." status ;)

lol, yea, I think I should just take that out of my sig and custom title altogether.

I couldn't do it. I failed. :(

But I just love discussing this stuff with you people. I just hope that I accidentally don't stumble across spoilers I don't wanna know about before the movie, like when the book comes out and people post what happens in that and stuff.

Right now, I feel safe, and that's why I'm around posting. I hope I don't get too comfortable and get caught off guard (like I have a couple times already)

[WorthyStevens]

Cyclops lives. I don't care what Kurosawa or whatever his name says. Even the Alkali Lake scene hasn't played out the way the AICN script review describes, so no, the TV spots and trailers aren't evidence towards it's accuracy. The scene of Jean and Scott, and her taking off his glasses, and them kissing, is straight from the comics. That's why it's still similar to the AICN script, because the AICN script was very reminiscent of an actual comic book occurance.

And also, Jean didn't kill Scott at the end of that comic scene. :up:

[Halcohol]

lol, yea, I think I should just take that out of my sig and custom title altogether.

I couldn't do it. I failed. :(

But I just love discussing this stuff with you people. I just hope that I accidentally don't stumble across spoilers I don't wanna know about before the movie, like when the book comes out and people post what happens in that and stuff.

Right now, I feel safe, and that's why I'm around posting. I hope I don't get too comfortable and get caught off guard (like I have a couple times already)
I know what you mean, you're on the spoiler section for information and discussion, but you don't want the movie completely SPOILED for you.

I'll probably be out of here a week before the movie is released, just so I don't know ANYTHING.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Exactemundo. :up:

You know what makes me sad?

You, mainly, as well as some others, have been seen as the heading members of the "Cyclops Lives" club, with no mention of me supporting the cause, despite my essay that I wrote awhile back, and Lightning even allowed to stand alone as it's own thread for awhile.

No respect, I tell ya.

:(

[cyke93]

yes, when does the book come out ?.. i gotta run for the hills when that happens.. someone just private message me and tell me whether or not the book has him dead for real or not

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

yes, when does the book come out ?.. i gotta run for the hills when that happens.. someone just private message me and tell me whether or not the book has him dead for real or not

It comes out May 16th, I believe.

[WorthyStevens]

You know what makes me sad?

You, mainly, as well as some others, have been seen as the heading members of the "Cyclops Lives" club, with no mention of me supporting the cause, despite my essay that I wrote awhile back, and Lightning even allowed to stand alone as it's own thread for awhile.

No respect, I tell ya.

:(

:(

I think it's because you were MIA for a period of time. ;)

Join our Cyclops club. ;) I order you to!

[LEX]

Oi, I just realized someone's using my flashing Sentinel avatar.

Alright, back on topic, it is... :O

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Only when you admit that Beast > Angel!!!

:)

It's okay, because Gambit > Beast + Angel

[Halcohol]

I'll back you up on Beast > Angel . Totally :up::up:

[Tony Stark]

I hope we get official word on this soon, because I want to know Cyke's fate going into the movie. Because if I don't, and he does bite it, I'll get pissed and it will ruin the movie for me.

If he's going to bite it, I'd rather know now so I can prepare for it going in.

[WorthyStevens]

Only when you admit that Beast > Angel!!!

:)

It's okay, because Gambit > Beast + Angel

You and your fantasties. ;)

[LEX]

Beast is way older, smarter, experienced and flexible than Angel. Of course, he owns Angel. :p

*runs before he feels the wrath of Worthy*

[WorthyStevens]

I'll back you up on Beast > Angel . Totally :up::up:

Only because I said the Flames suck. :o ;) :p

[WorthyStevens]

Beast is way older, smarter, experienced and flexible than Angel. Of course, he owns Angel. :p

*runs before he feels the wrath of Worthy*

:mad:

You're all delusional!



:p :D

[PhePhe112]

I'm with you on that one, Tony! I keep saying to myself that as soon as they release something on him making me 100% positive he lives, i will stop looking at spoilers. But I think when I finally get that info I'll know what happens in the entire movie! :(

[LEX]

Am not. Just sleepy. :o

*looks at clock*

It's 4 PM and haven't slept at all last night. :down

[cyke93]

I hope we get official word on this soon, because I want to know Cyke's fate going into the movie. Because if I don't, and he does bite it, I'll get pissed and it will ruin the movie for me.

If he's going to bite it, I'd rather know now so I can prepare for it going in.

i feel you.. go with my approach, go in with low expectations.... time and time again i am reminded of this line from gin blossoms "don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down"

[TromaFreak64]

i feel you.. go with my approach, go in with low expectations.... time and time again i am reminded of this line from gin blossoms "don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down"

Not a bad idea...but its likely we won't need any expectations once the book comes out, I expect this place to be filled with spoilers--that are very close to the final film....so we'll see.

[JZ1]

I'm with you on that one, Tony! I keep saying to myself that as soon as they release something on him making me 100% positive he lives, i will stop looking at spoilers. But I think when I finally get that info I'll know what happens in the entire movie! :(

same here and i'm not a big cyclops fan.. i am gambit4life but what they have done to this character so far has me standing up for cyke.

[berzerko89]

Maybe cyclops death will give a spot in the x-men for a new character that is as much popular as cyclops....

[vanillacyke]

Maybe cyclops death will give a spot in the x-men for a new character that is as much popular as cyclops....

Whu? . . . Why, Why would you even wanna say that here? :(

[Spidey 2007]

Maybe cyclops death will give a spot in the x-men for a new character that is as much popular as cyclops....


psh.... *looks around* whos more popular than Cyclops...PSH :down Ebert and roeper give you 2 thumbs down....:down

[LastSunrise1981]

I hope we get official word on this soon, because I want to know Cyke's fate going into the movie. Because if I don't, and he does bite it, I'll get pissed and it will ruin the movie for me.

If he's going to bite it, I'd rather know now so I can prepare for it going in.

Which is exactly why I don't think he's going to die. If he were to bite the dust, we would've known it by now and would've gotten used to it.

This is the internet and things eventually leak out too, which is why I definitely feel that Cyke lives in the movie.

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~madsb/home/watch/artwork/_thumb/darkphoenix-thumb.jpg

I hope we get a real powerful scene like this in the movie, perhaps towards the end if Jean dies again.

[berzerko89]

Whu? . . . Why, Why would you even wanna say that here? :(

sorry, i like cyclops too but it was just a thought. sighs! :D

[berzerko89]

psh.... *looks around* whos more popular than Cyclops...PSH :down Ebert and roeper give you 2 thumbs down....:down

hmm... well in the movie they make him look like just a regular cast, not long enough screen time :down, no great lines :eek:... that is opposite to what cyclops is in the comic universe. :(

[High Voltage]

I have really high hopes and expectations that Cyclops will survive in this movie. LONG LIVE CYCLOPS! :D :cyclops:

[vanillacyke]

Hey wait do you remeber that commercial where the kid is leaving his home for school and his mom is like "Wait you forgot your pop-tart". Then he's like "oh yeah" so he grabs the pop-tart, walks out of the house, throws the tart in his bag, and walks up to his friend and says "you got the stuff"? His friend is like "yeah" and the friend pulls out a (I kid you not a freaking) PILLSBURY TOASTER STRUDELL!!! So the kid eats it. THEN they show up at school and the friend says to the kid "so where do you put all your pop-tarts?" and (oh this is the best part) the kid opens his locker and all these pop-tarts fall out!!!

LMAO!!! Can you guys believe that the kids mom, she has NO idea her son is hiding all his pop tarts in his locker and getting Toaster strudels every morning before school!!!! I mean like what the hell good parenting lady :rolleyes:, LOL!

[berzerko89]

I have really high hopes and expectations that Cyclops will survive in this movie. LONG LIVE CYCLOPS! :D :cyclops:

CYCLOPS WILL FOREVER LIVE... in the memory of his comrads. Perfect speech for his funeral. lol. ;)

I JUST WISH NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO DIE!!! :D

[flavio_lebeau]

i wish deaths, lots of them *rubs hands*

[Compi716]

Hey guys, I've been away for a few days (Passover will do that to ya). Any new updates I should know about. I'm too lazy to go back 15 pages in this thread.

[berzerko89]

Hey guys, I've been away for a few days (Passover will do that to ya). Any new updates I should know about. I'm too lazy to go back 15 pages in this thread.

nothings change... everythings probably the same. ;):p

[Compi716]

Ah, well at least there's some consistancy here.

[Storm22]

Can somebody update me on this supposed Premiere quote from Marsden talking about the discomfort of his X suit? There's a thread on it but it's been locked. Is it a legitimate quote?!

[Deep Thinkin'!]

ok, i didn't feel like reading the last few pages. But about the orignal topic of this thread, I'm not a large fan of Cyclops either. (I'm more of a Wolverine girl :rolleyes:) And I agree that he didn't get much time to shine I guess. ha, to tell you all the truth, I hope he dies so Logan and Jean can hook up. But heck, I dunno anything about X3 yet, so I probably dunno what I'm saying.

[Maze]

I hope he dies so Logan and Jean can hook up.

welcome to you :)

but i suggest that you run for cover :D lol

No you have the right to have your opinion of course :)
but that's a cyke thread , and obviously people can't agree on that one with you..(and me included)

still it's cool for me..

[Maze]

Can somebody update me on this supposed Premiere quote from Marsden talking about the discomfort of his X suit? There's a thread on it but it's been locked. Is it a legitimate quote?!
Considering that two people have read the same quote ,we can think that it is legitimate.

[Deep Thinkin'!]

Yeah, I would think so. Guess it was the wrong place to post. oopsies. But I do have respect for the dude, but after all, in X2 Jean did reject Logan remember? So I basically lose anyway. lol :D Wow, i'm sure cheerful for some reason.

[Maze]

Yeah, I would think so. Guess it was the wrong place to post. oopsies. But I do have respect for the dude, but after all, in X2 Jean did reject Logan remember? So I basically lose anyway. lol :D
Lol yup

Wow, i'm sure cheerful for some reason.
good good ! Lol

[Storm22]

So we pretty much know now, that Cyclops wears his uniform at some point in X3!

[WorthyStevens]

Can somebody update me on this supposed Premiere quote from Marsden talking about the discomfort of his X suit? There's a thread on it but it's been locked. Is it a legitimate quote?!

It's legitimate.

[Storm22]

Thanks Worthy. It seems as though Cyclops is gonna have a limited amount of opportunities to wear his uniform in X3 so I really think either he'll be wearing it in a flashback(which would be lame) or he wears it in the final battle.

[Maze]

Thanks Worthy. It seems as though Cyclops is gonna have a limited amount of opportunities to wear his uniform in X3 so I really think either he'll be wearing it in a flashback(which would be lame) or he wears it in the final battle.
That would be the two only option, considering that the Xmen seem to wear them in the Danger room and in the final battle.

Now, i'm not sure where Mardsen could have a flashback in uniform?

[Storm22]

Unless it was an Alkali Lake flashback - but if that was the case they would have just reused X2 footage, so he wouldn't have had to wear the uniform filming X3. And if it was a flashback from before X2 he'd have to wear a different X uniform It's looking good for Cyclops!

[Maze]

Unless it was an Alkali Lake flashback - but if that was the case they would have just reused X2 footage, so he wouldn't have had to wear the uniform filming X3. It's looking good for Cyclops!
;):up:

[WorthyStevens]

Unless it was an Alkali Lake flashback - but if that was the case they would have just reused X2 footage, so he wouldn't have had to wear the uniform filming X3. And if it was a flashback from before X2 he'd have to wear a different X uniform It's looking good for Cyclops!

It's always been looking good for Cyclops. ;)

[flavio_lebeau]

i would like some flashbacks from previous films, specially to explain the hints on Jean's evolution...Liberty Island and all...

[Maze]

It's always been looking good for Cyclops. ;)
LOL why are you so sure of yourself, worthy ,since some times?

[xwolverine2]

Thanks Worthy. It seems as though Cyclops is gonna have a limited amount of opportunities to wear his uniform in X3 so I really think either he'll be wearing it in a flashback(which would be lame) or he wears it in the final battle.
or maybe in that leech picture

[Storm22]

or maybe in that leech picture

maybe, that takes place in Alcatraz so it could well be him there!

[mustanger405]

GUYS WE MUST REPRESENT CYCLOPS IN THE NEW POLL ABOUT FAVORITE CHARACTER IN X3. start casting ur vote. We cant let him go unnoticed :)

[Maze]

or maybe in that leech picture
That take place at Alcatraz..

studying the photo you can see that the this is the same set.

[flavio_lebeau]

GUYS WE MUST REPRESENT CYCLOPS IN THE NEW POLL ABOUT FAVORITE CHARACTER IN X3. start casting ur vote. We cant let him go unnoticed :)
jesus christ...

[mustanger405]

Im serious we cant let someone like Logan win that poll....that will ruin my day :)

[flavio_lebeau]

man, its just...a...poll...

[WorthyStevens]

LOL what are you so sure of yourself, worthy ,since some times?

I've had some doubts before, but I've always had faith. ;)

[Maze]

I've had some doubts before, but I've always had faith. ;)
Ok ;)

because ,be careful , the way you talk since some times could indicate, to people ,that you know more than you are willing to say :D ;)

[TromaFreak64]

Within the last 40 days and still no major leaks--unheard of.

[WorthyStevens]

Ok ;)

because ,be careful , the way you talk since some times could indicate, to people ,that you know more than you are willing to say :D ;)

:cool:

[cyke93]

man, its just...a...poll...

still but us cyclops fans have so little to take pride in .. i mean look he's going to get demolecularized, we need every little bit we can get hahahaa...

[Bishop2]

I noticed in the behind-the-scenes video that, during the filming of the extended Jean reaction shot to everything happening in the finale, he mentions Logan saying "Hold this line no matter what" or something like that to the X-Men. So what, is Logan leading the team by the finale? Did something take out/incapacitate both Scott AND Storm by that point?

Jean's reactions seem to be indicate mostly confusion during all of this, too. Maybe she's at a vulnerable point and ready to flip-flop back to the good guys.

[Storm22]

I noticed in the behind-the-scenes video that, during the filming of the extended Jean reaction shot to everything happening in the finale, he mentions Logan saying "Hold this line no matter what" or something like that to the X-Men. So what, is Logan leading the team by the finale? Did something take out/incapacitate both Scott AND Storm by that point?

Jean's reactions seem to be indicate mostly confusion during all of this, too. Maybe she's at a vulnerable point and ready to flip-flop back to the good guys.

Well I think that was the start of the battle, they haven't clashed yet! I'd say Cyclops(and Angel) will show up later on in the battle.

[lordofthenerds]

I noticed in the behind-the-scenes video that, during the filming of the extended Jean reaction shot to everything happening in the finale, he mentions Logan saying "Hold this line no matter what" or something like that to the X-Men. So what, is Logan leading the team by the finale? Did something take out/incapacitate both Scott AND Storm by that point?

It would be impossible for Storm to die at that point. We've seen many shots of Sorm in the final battle and Logan says that line once the X-Men make their entrance there.

[sparky_parker]

http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/4%20Magazine%20art/555_Wizard_Xmen_x_men_2_Halle_Berry_b.jpg

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Well I think that was the start of the battle, they haven't clashed yet! I'd say Cyclops(and Angel) will show up later on in the battle.
That's the spirit!!!!!!!!

[LEX]

http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/4%20Magazine%20art/555_Wizard_Xmen_x_men_2_Halle_Berry_b.jpg
Apart from the ugly visor, that's a pretty cool artwork. :up:

[grey_jeanie]

It would be impossible for Storm to die at that point. We've seen many shots of Sorm in the final battle and Logan says that line once the X-Men make their entrance there.

But wouldn't that be a shocker!

[High Voltage]

CYCLOPS WILL FOREVER LIVE... in the memory of his comrads. Perfect speech for his funeral. lol. ;)

I JUST WISH NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO DIE!!! :D

THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM! :cyclops: :D

[High Voltage]

Well I think that was the start of the battle, they haven't clashed yet! I'd say Cyclops(and Angel) will show up later on in the battle.

I agree :up:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM! :cyclops: :D
I agree!!!!!!!

[Aiden]

THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM! :cyclops: :DStupid Mel Gibson and his false Bravheart:mad: ...

[Maze]

:o I love Braveheart!:)

Why stupid and false?

[Aiden]

:o I love Braveheart!:)

Why stupid and false?Half of it was just put in there for cinematic purposes. The Battle Of Stirling Bridge...Where the **** was the bridge????

[Maze]

Half of it was just put in there for cinematic purposes. The Battle Of Stirling Bridge...Where the **** was the bridge????
Like you said , that is cinema.

So when you do movies , you make choices.Your choices.
right or wrong.but you must make your choices,to present your vision.

I can't comment that it would have been better or not to stick to the reality,i've not done this movie. what i know us that it is a fantastic movie on freedom , really beautiful visually , visceral and romantic ..really inspiring..and that what counts imo.:)

[Aiden]

Like you said , that is cinema.

So when you do movies , you make choices.Your choices.
right or wrong.but you must make your choices,to present your vision.

I can't comment that it would have been better or not to stick to the reality,i've not done this movie. what i know us that it is a fantastic movie on freedom , really beautiful visually , visceral and romantic ..really inspiring..and that what counts imo.:)I suppose. Anyway. F*** Mel Gibson

[jusblaze21]

It would be impossible for Storm to die at that point. We've seen many shots of Sorm in the final battle and Logan says that line once the X-Men make their entrance there.

Yea, I don't think Storm will die during the last battle, It seems like she is going to be one of the most important characters in the last stand. I think if Cyclops shows up in the last battle it will be toward the end or the middle and he probably won't have time to really lead the team or say Leadership one liners like, "Stay alert and stay alive". He'll probably fight a little bit and try to save Jean if he does show up. But I hope he does more in the final battle than that. But we wont know until the movie comes out.

[Maze]

I suppose. Anyway. F*** Mel Gibson

lol that's a little harsh and unfair..he can't answer you.

now , thinking about it , i can understand that it shock you..already because that in a way even if that was not the intention of Gibson ,(we don't know) it's a lack of respect for the personns who build that bridge..and even farther who love that bridge ( maybe you are one of them)

So , i think you goes a bit far , but i understand you :)

[Aiden]

lol that's little harsh ans unfair..he can't answer you.

now , thinking about it , i can understand that it shock you..already because that in a way even if that was not the intentoion of Gibson ,(we don't know) it's a lack of respect for the personns who build that bridge..and even farther who love that bridge ( maybe you are one of them)

So , i think you goes a bit far , but i understand you :)Thanks. I was going a bit far, but I don't really mean it.

300th post in this thread!

[Maze]

Yea, I don't think Storm will die during the last battle, It seems like she is going to be one of the most important characters in the last stand. I think if Cyclops shows up in the last battle it will be toward the end or the middle and he probably won't have time to really lead the team or say Leadership one liners like, "Stay alert and stay alive". He'll probably fight a little bit and try to save Jean if he does show up. But I hope he does more in the final battle than that. But we wont know until the movie comes out.
I think there are strong chances that the scene ,when, Storm hug Leech is at the end..so ..

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Yea, I don't think Storm will die during the last battle, It seems like she is going to be one of the most important characters in the last stand. I think if Cyclops shows up in the last battle it will be toward the end or the middle and he probably won't have time to really lead the team or say Leadership one liners like, "Stay alert and stay alive". He'll probably fight a little bit and try to save Jean if he does show up. But I hope he does more in the final battle than that. But we wont know until the movie comes out.
You are totally right:up:

[Kurosawa]

A promo is not weak. EVERY person that has worn a uniform in their promo, has ACTUALLY worn it in the film it's promoted for.

I still think you want him to die. You shrug off everything that points to him living.

IMO, there's nothing of substance that points towards him making it. And of course I want him to make it and get his due respect-he's my favorite X-Man.

I just don't think that this is gonna be the case.

As I've said before, I will gladly eat all the crow that would be due me if I'm wrong. But I doubt that I am.

[Bishop2]

IMO, there's nothing of substance that points towards him making it. And of course I want him to make it and get his due respect-he's my favorite X-Man.

I just don't think that this is gonna be the case.

As I've said before, I will gladly eat all the crow that would be due me if I'm wrong. But I doubt that I am.

100% agreed.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

IMO, there's nothing of substance that points towards him making it. And of course I want him to make it and get his due respect-he's my favorite X-Man.

I just don't think that this is gonna be the case.

As I've said before, I will gladly eat all the crow that would be due me if I'm wrong. But I doubt that I am.

You will be, so I hope you have a good supply of A-1 steak sauce...

[WorthyStevens]

IMO, there's nothing of substance that points towards him making it. And of course I want him to make it and get his due respect-he's my favorite X-Man.

I just don't think that this is gonna be the case.

As I've said before, I will gladly eat all the crow that would be due me if I'm wrong. But I doubt that I am.

And there's really nothing of substance pointing to his death. And don't give me the trailers look like the AICN script bull, because trailers are very misleading.

Cyke will live.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

And there's really nothing of substance pointing to his death. And don't give me the trailers look like the AICN script bull, because trailers are very misleading.

Cyke will live.

:up:

Especially when, save for Cyclops' demolecularization, that scene in the AICN script review was pretty much taken directly from a page in the comics... and the film makers are trying to have every scene in this movie be from the pages in the comics, if they want to keep consistant with that, then the Alkali Lake scene pretty much has to play out pretty similarly to the AICN script review, because it was taken directly from the comics!

It's alright though. I'm gonna go ahead and set the table now for Kurosawa and everyone else who ate up the AICN script review as the gospel so they have a place to eat all the crow that's due them, come May 26th, but because I'm such a nice guy, I wanna make sure they at least have all the right condiments so it can at least taste good to them.

[wobbly]

:up:

Especially when, save for Cyclops' demolecularization, that scene in the AICN script review was pretty much taken directly from a page in the comics... and the film makers are trying to have every scene in this movie be from the pages in the comics, if they want to keep consistant with that, then the Alkali Lake scene pretty much has to play out pretty similarly to the AICN script review, because it was taken directly from the comics!

It's alright though. I'm gonna go ahead and set the table now for Kurosawa and everyone else who ate up the AICN script review as the gospel so they have a place to eat all the crow that's due them, come May 26th, but because I'm such a nice guy, I wanna make sure they at least have all the right condiments so it can at least taste good to them.

Can I ask where this confidence is coming from? I mean I do hope you are right but I've seen nothing to justify being quite so cocky about it.

And just to make sure I'm not mis-understanding you, you aint seriously suggesting the similarities in the scenes are just co-incidence are you?

[Kurosawa]

You will be, so I hope you have a good supply of A-1 steak sauce...

It'll be the best meal I'll ever eat.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey, can I be the chef? I want to make a foot-long crow sandwich for those who said Cyclops would die.

Here's the way I look at it. If Cyclops was dead and say it was a proven fact, then we would've already known it and it would've been confirmed by now. This isn't the 80's or 90's where information like that could and would be held very secretive.

This is 2006 and the internet is a very, very usual tool for fans and those who want information. If it was proven that Cyclops dies and stays dead through the movie, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Brett or someone close to the movie would've confirmed it by now.

Fact of the matter is plain and simple, no one knows what will happen and that's the beauty of this movie. None of us knows what will transpire or what will surprise us, but I have a very good and strong feeling that Scott will live and will lead them in the final battle. Do I know this for sure? No, I don't. But it's a strong feeling and I'm confident that Brett stayed very true to the material.

Even if Cyclops was to die in the film, I'm not going to leave the theater or claim the movie was ruined for me. And neither will any of the ones who swear they'll leave if he dies. Please, you'll stay where you are and you'll enjoy the film more than likely, so spare us of your holier than thou fanboy rants.

I have a firm belief that Cyclops will be portrayed in all his glory and nothing will shatter my faith.

[Kurosawa]

I hope you guys are right.

Believe me, I want to look like an ass about this. And maybe it IS all clever misdirection. I hope I'm wrong.

It won't be long now until we finally know for sure...one way or another.

[WorthyStevens]

Hey, can I be the chef? I want to make a foot-long crow sandwich for those who said Cyclops would die.

Here's the way I look at it. If Cyclops was dead and say it was a proven fact, then we would've already known it and it would've been confirmed by now. This isn't the 80's or 90's where information like that could and would be held very secretive.

This is 2006 and the internet is a very, very usual tool for fans and those who want information. If it was proven that Cyclops dies and stays dead through the movie, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Brett or someone close to the movie would've confirmed it by now.

Fact of the matter if plain and simple, no one knows what will happen and that's the beauty of this movie. None of us knows what will transpire or what will surprise us, but I have a very good and strong feeling that Scott will live and will lead them in the final battle. Do I know this for sure? No, I don't. But it's a strong feeling and I'm confident that Brett stayed very true to the material.

Exactly. Let me use a recent example.

As some would probably know, on 'Lost' this season, there was a shocking death this season. As for who died, it was leaked out a few weeks ahead of time.

[Maze]

I hope you guys are right.

Believe me, I want to look like an ass about this. And maybe it IS all clever misdirection. I hope I'm wrong.

It won't be long now until we finally know for sure...one way or another.
:up:

Very humble and very right.


It won't be long now ;):up:

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Can I ask where this confidence is coming from? I mean I do hope you are right but I've seen nothing to justify being quite so cocky about it.

And just to make sure I'm not mis-understanding you, you aint seriously suggesting the similarities in the scenes are just co-incidence are you?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225191

Read my essay there, that explains exactly how I feel about the Cyclops situation.

Of course, it is a bit dated, and more evidence has come to light (such as Marsden's quote in Premiere Magazine about the discomfort of the uniform), but that right there is my feelings on the Cyclops situation.

[Maze]

Exactly. Let me use a recent example.

As some would probably know, on 'Lost' this season, there was a shocking death this season. As for who died, it was leaked out a few weeks ahead of time.

Yup, you know that i believe that Scott will live ..but as for X3 i have the feeling that ,for once ,they succeeded to keep secret some things.

[wobbly]

I hope you guys are right.

Believe me, I want to look like an ass about this. And maybe it IS all clever misdirection. I hope I'm wrong.

It won't be long now until we finally know for sure...one way or another.

Agree completely :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

Yup, you know that i believe that Scott will live ..but as for X3 i have the feeling that ,for once ,they succeeded to keep secret some things.

Eh, I wouldn't think so. Remember how SM3(Spider-Man 3) was all secretive and then eventually everything about it leaked out?

Believe me, something would've came out about Scott's fate. As I said, this is the internet and no "secret information" is truly safe, you know?

[WorthyStevens]

Yup, you know that i believe that Scott will live ..but as for X3 i have the feeling that ,for once ,they succeeded to keep secret some things.

Actually, the point I was trying to make was that deaths aren't that hard to leak. So why not Scott with X3?

[lordofthenerds]

Actually, the point I was trying to make was that deaths aren't that hard to leak. So why not Scott with X3?
Well nobody's death has been officially leaked yet Worthy. Not even Mystique's.

[wobbly]

Actually, the point I was trying to make was that deaths aren't that hard to leak. So why not Scott with X3?

To be honest one could argue his death has been leaked (not officially yes, but still).

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Well nobody's death has been officially leaked yet Worthy. Not even Mystique's.

Who says Mystique dies?

[WorthyStevens]

To be honest one could argue his death has been leaked (not officially yes, but still).

True, but that script has been denounced several times.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

To be honest one could argue his death has been leaked (not officially yes, but still).

No, because he only died in a very early draft of a script that has gone through massive changes since it came to light.

[lordofthenerds]

Who says Mystique dies?
... Well the point I ws trying to make is that Cyclops is no different from anybody else. Its been confirmed that there will be deaths in this movie, but no deaths have been leaked. We could say that Mystique, Xavier, Magneto, or any other character's death hasn't been leaked yet. Its not only Cyclops's death that hasn't been confirmed yet.

[wobbly]

True, but that script has been denounced several times.

Do you have the quotes that completely refute every detail it contained?

[lordofthenerds]

Do you have the quotes that completely refute every detail it contained?
Well Simon Kinberg did say that script is far from the final draft.

[the_scream]

Actually, the point I was trying to make was that deaths aren't that hard to leak. So why not Scott with X3?

It was on AICN LAST YEAR. That's the whole point.

[WorthyStevens]

It was on AICN LAST YEAR. That's the whole point.

THAT SCRIPT'S BEEN CHANGED MANY TIMES OVER.

[wobbly]

No, because he only died in a very early draft of a script that has gone through massive changes since it came to light.

Maybe so, but its still of great concern to me that he died in any version of the script, that shows the writers were definitely capable and willing to even consider it, regardless of what a major deviation it is to the source.

[WorthyStevens]

Maybe so, but its still of great concern to me that he died in any version of the script, that shows the writers were definitely capable and willing to even consider it, regardless of what a major deviation it is to the source.

He was killed because James, at the time, had very limited time to film X3. But, he ended up having a lot more time to film than thought.

[lordofthenerds]

He was killed because James, at the time, had very limited time to film X3. But, he ended up having a lot more time to film than thought.
If they do end up killing off Cyke at the lake I'll be pi$$ed if thats the case. What an unnecessary waste of a character.

[The Original Bamfer]

He was killed because James, at the time, had very limited time to film X3. But, he ended up having a lot more time to film than thought.

Right :up: Which means its likely they'll add more of him in!

[wobbly]

Well Simon Kinberg did say that script is far from the final draft.

He said the same thing about the FF script he worked on last year and the end result wasn't that far removed from the original script at all. The 'major' changes there were in one name change (Van Damme to Von Doom) and some tweaks/additions/deletions to the dialogue. All the major plot points remained pretty much exactly the same.

[WorthyStevens]

He said the same thing about the FF script he worked on last year and the end result wasn't that far removed from the original script at all. The 'major' changes there were in one name change (Van Damme to Von Doom) and some tweaks/additions/deletions to the dialogue. All the major plot points remained pretty much exactly the same.

Let's not forget the Storm/Logan sex scene was a fairly major event in the script.

But that's been taken out.