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vanillacyke
04-18-2006, 10:38 PM
But if Xavier dies as speculated, there would be noone who could project Cyclops into her mind.

Provided that the reason for Profs death is'nt cause he created the illusion of Cyke which could be the final straw for Jean so she kills him.

cyke93
04-18-2006, 10:39 PM
cyke 93 i think if they do kill scott
that your theory is plausible
as for all the promo pics mentioning alex etc
i know it seems like they are screwing us
but they also marketing the films to people
who ONLY know these characters thru the movies
and those people dont know about the script leak
so they have to maintain the surprise
for large portions of the general public
i know its hard to believe but is not all about US
at least in terms of marketing

mentioning alex on the official website came completely from left field. it would be interesting what happens in the film in that regard.. hey alex could come in for cyclops funeral ? hehehe

Bishop2
04-18-2006, 10:41 PM
Did Rogue or Bobby ever REALLY wear a costume in X2? It's hard to say, since that final scene in the president's office is so damn odd - it could just be happening in the President's head, which means they never actually physically wore the leather.

Kurosawa
04-18-2006, 10:43 PM
Guys I am just giving you the heads up and warning you not to post anymore questions about Cyclops that are possibly spoilerish in any way. I just got a private message from the administrator, Ted. My name is Summers101 and I just posted a question about Cyke and he sent me a private message. I understand where he is coming from since I have been pressing my luck by asking too many questions on the character to mainly Simon.

These were his words:
"Cut the "this shouldn't be deleted, it would worry me" routine - you ask a LOT of spoiler questions that you know you shouldn't, and asking for things not to be deleted doesn't help you any. I understand your love of Cyke, but you try to push the limits way too much after you've been told numerous times to can the Cyclops questions."

"Give it a rest, please."

Screw them. They did this to the fans by either killing Cyke or screwing around with his fate in order to rile up online fans.

SCOTT&JEAN
04-18-2006, 10:43 PM
Alex!? Someone Give Me A Link Or Tell Me A Page Number Quick :d

Here's something better:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2808/bio2sl.jpg

Look in the center...:)

cyke93
04-18-2006, 10:44 PM
Did Rogue or Bobby ever REALLY wear a costume in X2? It's hard to say, since that final scene in the president's office is so damn odd - it could just be happening in the President's head, which means they never actually physically wore the leather.

they put the suit on

Bishop2
04-18-2006, 10:45 PM
"WAS" romantically linked to Jean Grey? :eek: :confused: :mad:

That had better only be in the past tense due to Jean's apparent death.

cyke93
04-18-2006, 10:47 PM
"WAS" romantically linked to Jean Grey? :eek: :confused: :mad:

That had better only be in the past tense due to Jean's apparent death.

word ! but i dont understand why they "broke" them up. if you look at jean';s, it says romantically linked to both scott and logan... what it should say was that logan tried ..

LastSunrise1981
04-18-2006, 10:48 PM
"WAS" romantically linked to Jean Grey? :eek: :confused: :mad:

That had better only be in the past tense due to Jean's apparent death.

Don't read into it too much. Apparently we're not allowed to ask any questions or talk about Cyke too much. :rolleyes:

SCOTT&JEAN
04-18-2006, 10:48 PM
"WAS" romantically linked to Jean Grey? :eek: :confused: :mad:

That had better only be in the past tense due to Jean's apparent death.
And here is the best part:

"Jean Grey was romantically involved with both Scott Summers (Aka Cyclops) and Logan(Aka Wolverine)"

How do you of that???

It was on Jean's profile....

WorthyStevens
04-18-2006, 10:50 PM
Screw them. They did this to the fans by either killing Cyke or screwing around with his fate in order to rile up online fans.

You don't know the complete circumstances of what's going on with Scott, nor do I. Stop saying harsh words when you don't know what'll happen.

cyke93
04-18-2006, 10:54 PM
apprently fox likes their "tri's" .. x3, which they now want to turn into a TRIlogy .. they are obviously trying to continue with the scott jean logan TRIangle, which i thought they finally ended at the end of x2, then it seems theres one another TRIangle between rouge kitty and bobby... next thing they're going to make a triangle within a triangle with scott jean and warren

SCOTT&JEAN
04-18-2006, 10:56 PM
apprently fox likes their "tri's" .. x3, which they now want to turn into a TRIlogy .. they are obviously trying to continue with the scott jean logan TRIangle, which i thought they finally ended at the end of x2, then it seems theres one another TRIangle between rouge kitty and bobby... next thing they're going to make a triangle within a triangle with scott jean and warren
God...I hope not!

Redd_Angel
04-18-2006, 11:16 PM
^^^ well i think there's nothing wrong with continuing the logan-jean-scott triangle, as it's always gonna be there -- it still comes up in the comics too.

i'm not so psyched about the bobby-kitty-rogue triangle, but i guess the they had to do it in the movieverse for plot purposes

as for the warren case, didn't really get far in the comics, and i hope it won't even begin in the movie! :o

Bishop2
04-18-2006, 11:48 PM
And here is the best part:

"Jean Grey was romantically involved with both Scott Summers (Aka Cyclops) and Logan(Aka Wolverine)"

How do you of that???

It was on Jean's profile....

So does that mean I've been romantically involved with every person I've ever rejected?

Holy crap.

ShadowBoxing
04-18-2006, 11:56 PM
very brief photo edit
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5962/dist229xo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

cyke93
04-18-2006, 11:58 PM
^^^ how x3 will end .. lol thatd be hot

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 12:04 AM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8245/xp45jk.png

cyke93
04-19-2006, 12:06 AM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8245/xp45jk.png

:eek: :confused:

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 12:10 AM
I continue to be baffled by their insistence that Jean has any feelings for Logan. She's never shown anything except mild amusement at his pathetic puppy-dog nature.

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 12:24 AM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8245/xp45jk.png

YES!!! I love the fact that since we've all been sooooo Vociferous that a magazine (other than a mag for geeks) has made a comment on it!

LEX
04-19-2006, 12:31 AM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8245/xp45jk.png"Whatever it is that kills him here..."? Blashphemy. Okay, where does the author of this article live? :ghost:

cyke93
04-19-2006, 12:34 AM
we made as much noise as we could .. i hoped that it was good enough to change fox' mind before they finished shooting.. but the film is complete now just doing post production so we'll just have to wait n see.

invincible mann
04-19-2006, 02:25 AM
i have NO DOUBT its going to be a a GREAT film
and that ALL of the characters
will be well represented in one form or another
and continuing my sense of optimism
maybe alex went to jeans funeral
maybe they were secretly romantically linked!

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 04:13 AM
So does that mean I've been romantically involved with every person I've ever rejected?

Holy crap.
It sucks, doesn't it?

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 04:18 AM
"Whatever it is that kills him here..."? Blashphemy. Okay, where does the author of this article live? :ghost:
Don't worry Lex, he only wrote what was rumored among that fans (... all of us);) ...Nothing new...

So that doesn't really change anything!:)

peteapan
04-19-2006, 05:14 AM
what a happy day. Three new shots of cyke. He is included on the poster. An animation of him with his uniform on (they blatently pasted the glasses over the visor to keep speculation going). Hope is coming back

LEX
04-19-2006, 05:17 AM
Don't worry Lex, he only wrote what was rumored among that fans (... all of us);) ...Nothing new...

So that doesn't really change anything!:)
Yeah, I suppose you're right. He's probably here, believing everything that's written on the internet.

Sunstar
04-19-2006, 05:22 AM
In the premiere article Marsden complained about getting into his suit again!:up:

Things definately look better for Scott!

LEX
04-19-2006, 05:26 AM
Pavolan or something. :p I have faith. ;)

GreatWhiteWhale
04-19-2006, 05:39 AM
Yeah, 'Pavlovian response' kind of means a trained or conditioned response,

sort of like once Marsden put on the suit all the history of him wearing the suit flooded back to him and he was instantly ready to act in it, or he was intstantly back into the character of Cyclops.

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 05:42 AM
or he was instantaneously instant.

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 05:48 AM
or he was instantaneously instant.

LMAO!!! this guy's awsome!

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 05:49 AM
LMAO!!! this guy's awsome!
You are that guy vanilla:confused: :)

LEX
04-19-2006, 06:01 AM
LMAO!!! this guy's awsome!
Are you complimenting yourself? :p

Yellow Cyclone
04-19-2006, 06:41 AM
if anything i think cyke is on the posters not to confuse the casual fan

i mean of all the x-men he's easily one of the top 3 recognizable ones...if they didn't put him on the poster, ppl would say "hey where's cyclops, or that guy who could shoot stuff out of his eyes?"

but its nice to see that i wasn't the only one who noticed things on the animation:spidey:

GreatWhiteWhale
04-19-2006, 06:54 AM
True, but after X2, Nightcrawler has become very recognisable aswell.

But your logic still applies, because Cyclops was in X1 as well and is obviously an important part of the X-Men, as opposed to Nightcrawler, who is just episodic.

Anyway, manips and alterations to Cyke's uniform not withstanding, there is plenty about his inclusion in the film that we dont know about, likewise with most of the characters.

Also, anyone think Alex will be referenced to? Seems like a strange thing to put on his bio on the website that he has a brother.

GothicPowerMix1
04-19-2006, 06:55 AM
http://www.*********.com/files/room17/426235/Cyclops.gif

ironmaidenrules
04-19-2006, 06:57 AM
ok, i had a dream that i saw x3


but i missed parts of it because my son kept crying(in this dream i had a son named nicholas-he was born the same day i had to be in the trae-wizard tournament(DONt ASK ITS MY DREAM)

so i come back around the ending

everyone is getting thrashed

and i ask "omg, did cyclops die? wait dont tell me! so did he?
and my friend replies "so..u want me to tell u...yes"
me- "omg really?"
friend "nah, see"
he points to the screen and its cyclops walking out of the rubble shooting everything jean tosses at him.

friend "he got cancer in the beginning and he was absent for most of the film...

then i woke up


just sharing

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 07:01 AM
ok, i had a dream that i saw x3


but i missed parts of it because my son kept crying(in this dream i had a son named nicholas-he was born the same day i had to be in the trae-wizard tournament(DONt ASK ITS MY DREAM)

so i come back around the ending

everyone is getting thrashed

and i ask "omg, did cyclops die? wait dont tell me! so did he?
and my friend replies "so..u want me to tell u...yes"
me- "omg really?"
friend "nah, see"
he points to the screen and its cyclops walking out of the rubble shooting everything jean tosses at him.

friend "he got cancer in the beginning and he was absent for most of the film...

then i woke up


just sharing

LMAO!!! don't you just love dreams. :)

Maze
04-19-2006, 07:13 AM
True, but after X2, Nightcrawler has become very recognisable aswell.

But your logic still applies, because Cyclops was in X1 as well and is obviously an important part of the X-Men, as opposed to Nightcrawler, who is just episodic.

Anyway, manips and alterations to Cyke's uniform not withstanding, there is plenty about his inclusion in the film that we dont know about, likewise with most of the characters.

Also, anyone think Alex will be referenced to? Seems like a strange thing to put on his bio on the website that he has a brother.
Well , if (don't look Vanillacyke , Scott , and Jean , Worthy , Lex , Kuro , Batman etc etc lol) Scott die , i suppose that they could introducce Alex at the memorial.

but i have the feeling they put him in scott bio because they wan't him in a futur film ( lik with magneto kids: Kinberg said that he would love to)

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 09:02 AM
Well , if (don't look Vanillacyke , Scott , and Jean , Worthy , Lex , Kuro , Batman etc etc lol) Scott die , i suppose that they could introducce Alex at the memorial.

but i have the feeling they put him in scott bio because they wan't him in a futur film ( lik with magneto kids: Kinberg said that he would love to)

maybe when scott leaves the mansion in the beginning, he's telling everyone that's he's going to visit his brother, Alex.... that way people don't know he's going to mourn or do whatever at alkali lake........ I'm guessing they brought up magneto's kids becuase the magneto movie is in the works, and they would have to bring them up in that movie.......

CrypticOne
04-19-2006, 10:05 AM
One of my friends told me that Cyclops dies at Jean Grey's hand. I was just wondering if you guys think that that's true. 'Cause that would totally suck. Plus in the trailers you only see Cyclops at the lake, you never see him in the other parts.

Jan Irisi
04-19-2006, 10:08 AM
One of my friends told me that Cyclops dies at Jean Grey's hand. I was just wondering if you guys think that that's true. 'Cause that would totally suck. Plus in the trailers you only see Cyclops at the lake, you never see him in the other parts.

The truth is...no one knows anything yet. The only ones who do know are the crew who worked on the film, and they are not, and can not, going to say anything about Scott's fate. We will have to wait and see. Remember, trailers sometimes can be misleading, as can rumors.

LastSunrise1981
04-19-2006, 10:12 AM
One of my friends told me that Cyclops dies at Jean Grey's hand. I was just wondering if you guys think that that's true. 'Cause that would totally suck. Plus in the trailers you only see Cyclops at the lake, you never see him in the other parts.

Your friend is going by rumors, he doesn't know what's going to happen at this point.

americanguy96
04-19-2006, 11:06 AM
One of my friends told me that Cyclops dies at Jean Grey's hand. I was just wondering if you guys think that that's true. 'Cause that would totally suck. Plus in the trailers you only see Cyclops at the lake, you never see him in the other parts.


People That Know:

Brett Ratner
The Crew That Worked on that scene
James Marsden
Famke Janseen
Hugh Jackman
Halle Berry

Of course others probably know, but surely it wouldn't be too hard to kidnap one of those people and just get them to tell us the truth. :rolleyes:

TromaFreak64
04-19-2006, 11:19 AM
Don't worry Lex, he only wrote what was rumored among that fans (... all of us);) ...Nothing new...

So that doesn't really change anything!:)

Yeah...they even went out of their way to call it scuttlebutt.

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 11:38 AM
I seriously think all the worrying is about nothing. Yes, Scott will be absent for a good part of the movie. BUT, I don't believe they would kill him off. It's pointless. Xavier could die and should die, there's a reason for it and it completes the first trilogy, and finishes his arc with Scott having Cyclops take over the school. Same goes for Magneto. He got his war, it's curtains for him! Mystique has served her purpose and without Magneto isn't going to have much to do. So she could go too.

But Cyclops is needed both in the finale of Pheonix and in future sequels regardless of what characters come and go, he should be the one constant. Especially if Xavier dies. And I DO think Jean will die at the end, but will redeem herself first, thanks to Cyke.

That's what I think! And the fact that everything is a spoiler, and the intentional covering up of his visor and uniform manipulations definitely suggest surprises ahead!

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 11:48 AM
^^^Exactly:up:

That's what should happen:)

Knives122
04-19-2006, 11:55 AM
well if he was absent for most of the movie it wouldn't be any different from the other movies b/c he's usually not in it for 3/4 of it

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 12:00 PM
We know that he has a small role....but not know small...

And we won't know untill May 26...

Ooooh...May 25 for me:)

invincible mann
04-19-2006, 12:42 PM
but with the film we are talking about the writers interpretations of the comics
not a verbatim following of the comics

Maze
04-19-2006, 12:49 PM
We know that he has a small role....but not know small...

And we won't know untill May 26...

Ooooh...May 25 for me:)
jk)Don't start to cause people (even without wanting it ;) :) ), you don't wan't to know when i'll be able to see it :D

cyke93
04-19-2006, 12:54 PM
I seriously think all the worrying is about nothing. Yes, Scott will be absent for a good part of the movie. BUT, I don't believe they would kill him off. It's pointless. Xavier could die and should die, there's a reason for it and it completes the first trilogy, and finishes his arc with Scott having Cyclops take over the school. Same goes for Magneto. He got his war, it's curtains for him! Mystique has served her purpose and without Magneto isn't going to have much to do. So she could go too.

But Cyclops is needed both in the finale of Pheonix and in future sequels regardless of what characters come and go, he should be the one constant. Especially if Xavier dies. And I DO think Jean will die at the end, but will redeem herself first, thanks to Cyke.

That's what I think! And the fact that everything is a spoiler, and the intentional covering up of his visor and uniform manipulations definitely suggest surprises ahead!

IF cyclops lives, i hope that we get to see a happy ending of him and jean. in a perfect world, cyclops lives and the whole AICN was mostly bogus anyways and that they made cyclops die just to test to see if they could do with bumping his character off again .. but then again we dont live in a perfect world hehe

Maze
04-19-2006, 12:58 PM
maybe when scott leaves the mansion in the beginning, he's telling everyone that's he's going to visit his brother, Alex.... that way people don't know he's going to mourn or do whatever at alkali lake........ I'm guessing they brought up magneto's kids becuase the magneto movie is in the works, and they would have to bring them up in that movie.......
You may be right yup (especially for Magneto kids)

Maze
04-19-2006, 01:00 PM
IF cyclops lives, i hope that we get to see a happy ending of him and jean. in a perfect world, cyclops lives and the whole AICN was mostly bogus anyways and that they made cyclops die just to test to see if they could do with bumping his character off again .. but then again we dont live in a perfect world hehe
Nope , but like my sig say , i have the feeling that one day , Cyke will be one of the main characters..he has just too much dramatic potential ;)

invincible mann
04-19-2006, 01:00 PM
in a perfect world we would get a cyclops film

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 01:05 PM
The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix. They are on the run after the events of X3, and Sinister is trying to experiment with their offspring!

BTW, I bet after the movie comes out, Cyke's animated button on the website will remove the glasses and we'll see the glowing visor underneath!

Maze
04-19-2006, 01:08 PM
They could be indeed on the run , if Cyke find a way that Jean don't kill herself..

that could be very interesting..

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 01:14 PM
AAAND, it would be considered another spin-off! Where its all about Scott and Jean and no Wolverine in sight!

Although, I wouldn't mind a cameo by Storm.

Aiden
04-19-2006, 01:15 PM
Nice to see Scott on the American Poster

Maze
04-19-2006, 01:19 PM
AAAND, it would be considered another spin-off! Where its all about Scott and Jean and no Wolverine in sight!

Although, I wouldn't mind a cameo by Storm.
Lol i read in the french mag Score that some times ago there was a rumored Phoenix spin off? :confused:

Never heard that one before?

somebody has?

jcykeson
04-19-2006, 01:24 PM
If there is any continuity which they want the big name villians to takeover Magneto(if he dies).. Cyke must be in! Apocalypse-his merger with it... Sinister-Sinister's interest to the Summers family.. Phoenix- Cyke!

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 01:34 PM
If there is any continuity which they want the big name villians to takeover Magneto(if he dies).. Cyke must be in! Apocalypse-his merger with it... Sinister-Sinister's interest to the Summers family.. Phoenix- Cyke!

what about mojo???

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 01:36 PM
People That Know:

Brett Ratner
The Crew That Worked on that scene
James Marsden
Famke Janseen
Hugh Jackman
Halle Berry

Of course others probably know, but surely it wouldn't be too hard to kidnap one of those people and just get them to tell us the truth. :rolleyes:

they might be the only ones, according the duke, he was only allowed to read the scene he was acting in, nothing else....... it makes you think that if they are that secretive about the script, there's no way AICN has an even close interprutation of what the final script is

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 01:48 PM
True. It's ridiculous how secretive they were, even with the crew and cast! I bet there will be some twists none of us see coming!!! And I think their attempts to so blatantly make it look like Scott dies, have backfired, as now his return won't be much of a surprise to us hardcore fans!

Celestio
04-19-2006, 01:49 PM
True. It's ridiculous how secretive they were, even with the crew and cast! I bet there will be some twists none of us see coming!!! And I think their attempts to so blatantly make it look like Scott dies, have backfired, as now his return won't be much of a surprise to us hardcore fans!

Or maybe it's reverse reverse psychology. They're making it look like he dies, so we all think he won't die, but then the real twist is he actually does die. :eek:

:p

Aiden
04-19-2006, 01:52 PM
I'm so disillusioned right now.

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 01:58 PM
True. It's ridiculous how secretive they were, even with the crew and cast! I bet there will be some twists none of us see coming!!! And I think their attempts to so blatantly make it look like Scott dies, have backfired, as now his return won't be much of a surprise to us hardcore fans!

or maybe that's what they are trying to do,

maybe they know that there attempts to make it seem like scott only appears in the begining, would make us think that he is in it more, or that he doesn't die, so now when we see the movie, and he dies at alkali lake, we will be really suprised.......

I confused myself by the way

**edit**just saw that someone else just posted this before me**

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 01:59 PM
jk)Don't start to cause people (even without wanting it ;) :) ), you don't wan't to know when i'll be able to see it :D
Oooh, sorry I didn't mean it...I'll try to be more carefull in the future!

And Maze, you live in France right???So you'll see it one day before me...

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:00 PM
Or maybe it's reverse reverse psychology. They're making it look like he dies, so we all think he won't die, but then the real twist is he actually does die. :eek:

:p
I'm getting so confused right now..reading that...

Redd_Angel
04-19-2006, 02:01 PM
^ my ... head ... aches ... :confused:

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:05 PM
Or maybe it's reverse reverse psychology. They're making it look like he dies, so we all think he won't die, but then the real twist is he actually does die. :eek:

:p

nope, it's reverse reverse reverse psychology, they make it look like he dies, so then the think we will think he lives, but then we think he dies, but in reality he lives......... god I hate them.........

Celestio
04-19-2006, 02:06 PM
nope, it's reverse reverse reverse psychology, they make it look like he dies, so then the think we will think he lives, but then we think he dies, but in reality he lives......... god I hate them.........

Lol! I like that. ;):up:

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:13 PM
Lol! I like that. ;):up:

I don't, because now i'm thinking it's Reverse X4 (not the movie) Psychology, they release the trailer to make it seem like he dies, but then we think he lives because it's too obvious, but then we think that they want us to think that so now we think he dies, but then we think that's what they want us to do now , so now we think he lives, but in the movie, fox really kills off cyke..... I am ready to write them a letter about this......

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 02:16 PM
I think some people should stop coming up with conspiracy theories (for their own mental health). :o :p

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:21 PM
I think some people should stop coming up with conspiracy theories (for their own mental health). :o :p

I'm okay, besides the fact that I'm cross eyed now

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:25 PM
I think some people should stop coming up with conspiracy theories (for their own mental health). :o :p
And for the others....

I'm having such a headache...

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:30 PM
so will this thread have over 20,000 posts before X3 comes out??

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:31 PM
Oooh, sorry I didn't mean it...I'll try to be more carefull in the future!

And Maze, you live in France right???So you'll see it one day before me...
I was kidding :) i know that you didn't want to bother people ;)

Yup , i live in France :)

i'll give my impression as soon as i've seen the movie.:)

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:32 PM
More likely over 25,000

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:34 PM
I was kidding :) i know that you didn't want to bother people ;)

Yup , i live in France :)

i'll give my impression as soon as i've seen the movie.:)
Ok. I don't know if the others are going to want to know what happened but I do!!!

invincible mann
04-19-2006, 02:36 PM
anybody miss the good old days when there was no internet to read script leaks or hear the latest head splitting rumors?
you know when the only way to find out what happens in a film was to GO to it?

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:37 PM
Ok. I don't know if the others are going to want to know what happened but I do!!!

I'm know about a day or so before the movie is released in the states, GF brother manages the local Movie theater......

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:38 PM
Ok. I don't know if the others are going to want to know what happened but I do!!!
i'll give a spoiler free (and for those who want to know..you and the cyke fans? lol a critic with spoilers )

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:39 PM
anybody miss the good old days when there was no internet to read script leaks or hear the latest head splitting rumors?
you know when the only way to find out what happens in a film was to GO to it?

yah, that sucked...... I went and saw battlefield earth, I demanded my money back, now I can read about them and see if it's worth spending my money on.......

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:39 PM
anybody miss the good old days when there was no internet to read script leaks or hear the latest head splitting rumors?
you know when the only way to find out what happens in a film was to GO to it?
About all the other films yes...

But I'm too excited about this one to just wait and see...

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:40 PM
anybody miss the good old days when there was no internet to read script leaks or hear the latest head splitting rumors?
you know when the only way to find out what happens in a film was to GO to it?
oh yes , i never heard anywhere that Darth Vader was Luke father..

but we risk obviousky to read spoilers , coming here.

we are not strong:( :down lol ;)

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:40 PM
i'll give a spoiler free (and for those who want to know..you and the cyke fans? lol a critic with spoilers )
Ok. then I'll wait for it!!!

The Original Bamfer
04-19-2006, 02:41 PM
Anything new?

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:43 PM
hmm .

Who wanna bet that we will see Scott going to the lake in the 7 minute preview , and that will stop when he kiss Jean ? lol

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Anything new?

yep, ratner had an interview and he slipped that cyclops is in the final battle

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:46 PM
yep, ratner had an interview and he slipped that cyclops is in the final battle
LOL Ratner is known to make mistakes anyways now :D

SCOTT&JEAN
04-19-2006, 02:48 PM
If they do something like that it would be soooo unfair....

The anxiety only would kill me..if they cutted the scene there...

So...I hope they won't do that...

DarknessOfDeath
04-19-2006, 02:50 PM
Cyclops is in the final battle??? :eek: ... wheres the source? :o

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:50 PM
If they do something like that it would be soooo unfair....

The anxiety only would kill me..if they cutted the scene there...

So...I hope they won't do that...

I really hope they do, that would be the biggest slap in the face to us....... and i would laugh myself to sleep, because that would be something that I would do if I was in charge of marketing there....

The Original Bamfer
04-19-2006, 02:51 PM
yep, ratner had an interview and he slipped that cyclops is in the final battle

WHAT!?

Maze
04-19-2006, 02:52 PM
:o Joker is kidding !

cyke93
04-19-2006, 02:52 PM
maze, vous habitez en la France? c'est super. je vais en France dans l'été ..en strasbourg pour faire la recherche ...ehh.. im still working on my french hahaa..

hmm .

Who wanna bet that we will see Scott going to the lake in the 7 minute preview , and that will stop when he kiss Jean ? lol

when will it air? i got to make sure to avoid it like the plague hehehe. hmm if it ends with scott kissing jean, that sux cuz then cyclops time on screen will be reduced in half from 15 minutes to only 7-8 :( hehe

Celestio
04-19-2006, 02:53 PM
You have to be more clear with sarcasm these days, it's too common. :p

DarknessOfDeath
04-19-2006, 02:53 PM
WHAT!?

Oh I forgot to say that too...


WHAT?!?

cyke93
04-19-2006, 02:54 PM
You have to be more clear with sarcasm these days, it's too common. :p

yes, dont play with out minds, its a very sensitive time for everyone hehehe.

DarknessOfDeath
04-19-2006, 02:55 PM
:( Aww damn. So joker was just messing with our minds eh? :( Grrr.

invincible mann
04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
joker i saw battlefield earth too
i share your pain

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
can any of you name a time I wasn't beng sarcastic or joking around (you can't count this post tho.......)

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 03:01 PM
:( Aww damn. So joker was just messing with our minds eh? :( Grrr.

yah, what a @ss, why isn't he banned yet!!!??? lol

The Original Bamfer
04-19-2006, 03:16 PM
:o Joker is kidding !

Yeah... I'm seriously pissed.

JokerNick
04-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Yeah... I'm seriously pissed.

it was a joke man, chill out.......... if your getting bent out of shape about an x-men board, I don't know what to say....... :eek:

Maze
04-19-2006, 03:32 PM
Yeah... I'm seriously pissed.
I understand ..sometimes that is not the day..;)

but Joker was not doing it on purpose Bamfer ( if my typo has any problems..)

Storm22
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
cruel Joker, very cruel!

SilentType
04-19-2006, 04:44 PM
A few weeks down the road someone will be saying "I heard that Ratner confirmed Cyke was in the final battle. I don't remember where."
then someone sees that and reports to a fan site, and soon we have a huge headline "Ratner confirms Cyke lives!"

Maze
04-19-2006, 04:48 PM
Lol , you may not be far from the truth.

When advanced dark did his topic about a possible hint of Archangel in the movie , the same evening at a french forum a guy said that from a shh source Archangel had been spotted in the movie :D

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 04:48 PM
A new poster from yours truly! Keeping Cyclops ALIVE!

Storm22
04-19-2006, 04:50 PM
He just doesn't look right in his uniform and shades!!

Maze
04-19-2006, 04:51 PM
HA! i like it even better than the manip you did the other day:) :up:

There's a sense of impending doom ..you could believe that those people are going to war :up:

Maze
04-19-2006, 04:52 PM
Ok the shade are maybe a bit off indeed..

but apart from that it's great imo :)

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 04:52 PM
Thanks guys!

Aiden
04-19-2006, 05:53 PM
I don't know if it's been brought up, but does anyone see a resemblance between Maze's old avvy and the picture of Cyke on the site. The one in the corner

lordofthenerds
04-19-2006, 05:57 PM
A new poster from yours truly! Keeping Cyclops ALIVE!

http://www.taintedtv.com/poster.jpg
Pretty good, but it looks like Cyke got caught masterbating...:p

Maze
04-19-2006, 06:09 PM
I don't know if it's been brought up, but does anyone see a resemblance between Maze's old avvy and the picture of Cyke on the site. The one in the corner
i dunno , the position of the head is not the same?

but what is your point? (No i'm not Simon :D )

Aiden
04-19-2006, 06:13 PM
Put up your old avvy for a minute please

Maze
04-19-2006, 06:16 PM
Put up your old avvy for a minute please
( i must refind it..)Ok i see where you are going..you think that could be from a similar scene?

Aiden
04-19-2006, 06:18 PM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4344/cyclopsx3website1id.png
This pic reminds me of your old avvy. (was it you?)

Maze
04-19-2006, 06:30 PM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4344/cyclopsx3website1id.png
This pic reminds me of your old avvy. (was it you?)
http://kampfkunst-board.info/forum/customavatars/avatar4200_1.gif
that was my last one..but yes for a while i had a similar kind of avvy(can't find it anymore)

SlimDayspring
04-19-2006, 06:31 PM
http://kampfkunst-board.info/forum/customavatars/avatar4200_1.gif
that was my last one..but yes for a while i had a similar kind of avvy(can't find it anymore)
That's from Ultimate X-Men #5, isn't it?

Maze
04-19-2006, 06:41 PM
That's from Ultimate X-Men #5, isn't it?
yup:)

taintedFB
04-19-2006, 06:47 PM
Pretty good, but it looks like Cyke got caught masterbating...:p

Pulling...your mind.... out of...gutter!

Maybe he's just shocked to see Jean so EVIL! Hey they're at war, it'll get a reaction out of people.

Besides, I like more natural action poses than stiff photshoot poses or those stupid in your face comic booky poses with wierd perspective!

Nightwing 007
04-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Oh well,after seeing the official website,I have to think that beyond what I'd really want to see,that he is toast at the lake.

Though I really wish otherwise...

Maze
04-19-2006, 07:14 PM
And what makes you think that?

Welcome Nightwing 007 :)

Nightwing 007
04-19-2006, 07:21 PM
Thanks for the welcome :)
Been a lurker for forever,finally decided to get off my butt & start talking...

Anyways,I did a search for his character on the site. What pics they have up all show him with the striped leather jacket that he has on at Alkali Lake.

I am with most here hoping otherwise,because I love the character. 2nd favorite one! But I'm deciding to be a realist today.Hopefully I'm proven wrong...

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 07:26 PM
What did you guys think of the fact that Cyke made it onto the Polish poster? Hey, he's the same size as Phoenix, Rogue and Beast... and bigger than Kitty!

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=4098

I hope that scene really does happen in the film. I want Cyke at the Golden Gate when it comes down.

PikaZeroX
04-19-2006, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the welcome :)
Been a lurker for forever,finally decided to get off my butt & start talking...

Anyways,I did a search for his character on the site. What pics they have up all show him with the striped leather jacket that he has on at Alkili Lake.

I am with most here hoping otherwise,because I love the character. 2nd favorite one! But I'm deciding to be a realist today.Hopefully I'm proven wrong...

Don't forget, we've had at least 3 magazines with him in an X-Suit, his profile on the site also has him in suit, but with badly photoshopped lenses over his visor Lol.

It's clearly X3 Cyclops too, so my hope has increased from 99% to 99.5%

Maze
04-19-2006, 07:28 PM
you were right in coming :like you saw surely it's often fun here (even if the heat turn on sometimes :D)

About cyke: well , i will not say that he live without doubts , but rather than a few things point out for him living : apart from the pics that you saw , you have two promo pics with him in the costume.you have also the posters.the fact is that untill now all the characters who wore the costume in the promo shots wore them in the movie.

you have also a strange kind of pics , at the bridge where you can see a blur who look a lot like cyke.

again , all that doesn't say that he lives without doubt but them +a too obvious marketing campaign ( "look at cyke , he is only at the lake and wolverine find his floating shade!") makes one wonder.

gambitfire
04-19-2006, 07:45 PM
i can't wait another second i need to know that he lives. :(

oneteen
04-19-2006, 08:19 PM
you were right in coming :like you saw surely it's often fun here (even if the heat turn on sometimes :D)

About cyke:you have also a strange kind of pics , at the bridge where you can see a blur who look a lot like cyke.


What blur?

SilentType
04-19-2006, 08:22 PM
What blur?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/SilentType/cykenessmonstercopy.jpg

berzerko89
04-19-2006, 08:26 PM
i can't wait another second i need to know that he lives. :(

lets just wait and see... ;)

mustanger405
04-19-2006, 09:12 PM
Cyke Must Live I Say....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the_scream
04-19-2006, 09:22 PM
The posters have given me some new hope. :up:

A shame he couldn't be front and centre where he belongs but beggars can't be choosers. :(

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 09:39 PM
As as has been observed before... our situation really is a sad and pathetic one. We're just begging for some evidence that he survives and shows up for the final battle... when really, there should be NO question that in a movie dealing with Jean Grey returning from the dead in ultra-powerful, evil form, Cyclops should be a central focus character. Anything else is a mistake.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 09:50 PM
I dunno i find it harder and harder to be negative, too much evidence and desire for him to not return

LastSunrise1981
04-19-2006, 10:35 PM
As as has been observed before... our situation really is a sad and pathetic one. We're just begging for some evidence that he survives and shows up for the final battle... when really, there should be NO question that in a movie dealing with Jean Grey returning from the dead in ultra-powerful, evil form, Cyclops should be a central focus character. Anything else is a mistake.

Well the thing is even in the comics Dark Phoenix affect everyone. Granted, it did affect Cyke in a big way and he was front and center, but to say anything else is a mistake is kind of foolish really.

You had other mutants who were desperately trying to reach Jean. Who's to say Scott won't be front and center at the right time?

cyke93
04-19-2006, 10:40 PM
I dunno i find it harder and harder to be negative, too much evidence and desire for him to not return

careful that your desire for him to remain alive doesnt cloud your judgement about the evidence at hand, even through there is neither solid proof that he dies or not

as i was paying bills today i came up with an anology as to why i have the "half empty approach" .. i live in the state with the worst car insurance, so to save money, you cut your coverage down, raise your deductables, etc. but hold and behold your car gets f'ed up and because your DESIRE to save money let your gaurd down, you did not plan for the worse and ur basically screwed.. so point im trying to make: i really hope cyclops lives but theres no solid evidence to prove it yet so im holding out in the hopes that i wont get totally screwed for x3 :) hehe

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 10:59 PM
Yeah I'm all messed up. My minds like a war zone, a giant battle of thoughts, "Cyclops lives" against "Cyclops dies" This blows.

TwilightPro101
04-19-2006, 11:01 PM
We can always get a come back in some form.

jusblaze21
04-19-2006, 11:11 PM
If Fox's plan was to confuse me, so I dont know what to think when I go to see the film, They have definently Succeded. Maybe their will be some kind of confirmation on Cykes fate in the 7 minute preview.

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 11:12 PM
Yeah I'm all messed up. My minds like a war zone, a giant battle of thoughts, "Cyclops lives" against "Cyclops dies" This blows.

My advice: Let "Cyclops lives" win. :D

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 11:12 PM
If Fox's plan was to confuse me, so I dont know what to think when I go to see the film, They have definently Succeded. Maybe their will be some kind of confirmation on Cykes fate in the 7 minute preview.

If they're trying to confuse people, don't expect confirmation during those 7 minutes.

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 11:16 PM
Well the thing is even in the comics Dark Phoenix affect everyone. Granted, it did affect Cyke in a big way and he was front and center, but to say anything else is a mistake is kind of foolish really.

I don't think so. The movies so far always put one or two characters front and center ahead of all the others. In the first movie, amongst the good guys, the leads were obviously Wolvie and Rogue. In the second, Wolverine again and Nightcrawler. Now, amongst all the characters in the franchise, who would provide the best storytelling possibilities/most drama, given the plot of this film? I'd say it's Rogue or Beast (because of the cure storyline) and, of course, Cyclops (because of Jean). Yes, everyone is affected by Jean going Dark, but nobody to the level of the man she loved. NOT putting him in one of the central roles of the entire movie is a massive missed opportunity that just makes me think that I could write a better film. And I'm not claiming to be a professional-level screenwriter. I'm just saying that it's so obvious that anybody should be able to see the clear path.

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 11:16 PM
My advice: Let "Cyclops lives" win. :D

lol, their trying that's for sure.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Whats this 7 minute preview, new trailer or what? Your probably right cyke93, just cant help it... i got a gut feeling and ive been going with it ever since that damn AICN review and the teaser. Cant give in now lol.

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 11:18 PM
Whats this 7 minute preview, new trailer or what? Your probably right cyke93, just cant help it... i got a gut feeling and ive been going with it ever since that damn AICN review and the teaser. Cant give in now lol.

We'll find out what the 7-minute preview is when it airs. It's... a seven-minute preview. Obviously it's not a trailer, because a trailer wouldn't be seven minutes long. Could be seven minutes of edited footage, could be the first seven minutes of the movie airing for free (it's happened before, with multiple films), could be a collection of interviews and trailer footage... who knows.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:21 PM
We'll find out what the 7-minute preview is when it airs. It's... a seven-minute preview. Obviously it's not a trailer, because a trailer wouldn't be seven minutes long. Could be seven minutes of edited footage, could be the first seven minutes of the movie airing for free (it's happened before, with multiple films), could be a collection of interviews and trailer footage... who knows.

AH! right... thank you, yeah its late and im tired, not thinkin straight (7 minute trailer lol):O

This is the first ive heard of it. So we dont know when it airs?

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 11:21 PM
I don't know if I'll watch that preview. Just cause what if Cyclops is'nt featured at all or something really bad is shown or who knows what, but I'm scared of it that's for sure.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:22 PM
better yet, is there just a link to an article so i dont have to bug you guys with questions?

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 11:23 PM
This is the first ive heard of it. So we dont know when it airs?

It airs Thursday, May 11th, at 8:30 p.m. ET. on Fox, right before the series finale of That '70s Show.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:24 PM
I don't know if I'll watch that preview. Just cause what if Cyclops is'nt featured at all or something really bad is shown or who knows what, but I'm scared of it that's for sure.

Well we cant keep our heads in the sand lol. I might not watch it just b/c i dont want to take away from the theatrical experience.

Hey vanilla, did you ever get in touch with that guy on ebay?

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 11:25 PM
I don't know if I'll watch that preview. Just cause what if Cyclops is'nt featured at all or something really bad is shown or who knows what, but I'm scared of it that's for sure.

It airs the night before the movie opens. By that time, we'll probably already know what happened to Cyke, I would assume. SOMEONE will have seen it and reviewed it with the spoilers.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:25 PM
It airs Thursday, May 11th, at 8:30 p.m. ET. on Fox, right before the series finale of That '70s Show.

Oh baby! thanks again. So whats the consencus? Anybody gunna watch?

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Oh baby! thanks again. So whats the consencus? Anybody gunna watch?

Deciding.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:26 PM
It airs the night before the movie opens. By that time, we'll probably already know what happened to Cyke, I would assume. SOMEONE will have seen it and reviewed it with the spoilers.

Thats true.

Bishop2
04-19-2006, 11:28 PM
Thats true.

Of course, there will probably still be the hardcores among us who will claim that any review that talks about Cyke dying is a "plant." :)

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Edit

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Of course, there will probably still be the hardcores among us who will claim that any review that talks about Cyke dying is a "plant." :)

Damn right! Cyke will live! lol

LastSunrise1981
04-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Oh baby! thanks again. So whats the consencus? Anybody gunna watch?


::Thinks::

I made my decision. I will not watch the preview, as I want to be surprised and enjoy the theater experience. :) :up:

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 11:44 PM
Well we cant keep our heads in the sand lol. I might not watch it just b/c i dont want to take away from the theatrical experience.

Hey vanilla, did you ever get in touch with that guy on ebay?

I'd been so busy I just sent him an email the other day so I'm sure he'll get back to me real soon.

vanillacyke
04-19-2006, 11:45 PM
It airs the night before the movie opens. By that time, we'll probably already know what happened to Cyke, I would assume. SOMEONE will have seen it and reviewed it with the spoilers.

Oh I did'nt know that, that's cool.

AcidTWister
04-19-2006, 11:50 PM
The night before the movie opens? try 15 nights. May 11th is way before May 25th.

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:51 PM
I'd been so busy I just sent him an email the other day so I'm sure he'll get back to me real soon.

Cool

astonishingcyke
04-19-2006, 11:53 PM
Well Im turning in for the night, later guys

cyke93
04-19-2006, 11:59 PM
i remember the 10 minute preview for batman aired last year, it didn't really give anything away per say but any answers we want about cyclops fate, i doubt we'll find out in the 7 minute preview.

as someone mentioned before, they might end the preview with cyclops and jean kissing.. and then in the movies when we watch we watch that scene and then as soon as their lips part, bang cykes dead.. and we'll all be like . .daym he was in the movie for only 8 minutes.. hehe .. well if you count previews and the intro and everything, we can say cyclops lasted a good 30-40 minutes in ... hehe

cyke93
04-20-2006, 12:03 AM
I don't think so. The movies so far always put one or two characters front and center ahead of all the others. In the first movie, amongst the good guys, the leads were obviously Wolvie and Rogue. In the second, Wolverine again and Nightcrawler. Now, amongst all the characters in the franchise, who would provide the best storytelling possibilities/most drama, given the plot of this film? I'd say it's Rogue or Beast (because of the cure storyline) and, of course, Cyclops (because of Jean). Yes, everyone is affected by Jean going Dark, but nobody to the level of the man she loved. NOT putting him in one of the central roles of the entire movie is a massive missed opportunity that just makes me think that I could write a better film. And I'm not claiming to be a professional-level screenwriter. I'm just saying that it's so obvious that anybody should be able to see the clear path.

yes as soon as phoenix shadow hit the ending of x2, it should've been a clear path for cyclops to take a lead in the film, i jsut dont understand. with x3 its just wolverine (AGAIN) and storm taking the lead from the good guys .. ive learned to come to terms with storm because like cyclops her character too has been pushed to the backburner, although she did have more stuff to do in x2.

PhoenixRisen
04-20-2006, 12:07 AM
Yes, everyone is affected by Jean going Dark, but nobody to the level of the man she loved. NOT putting him in one of the central roles of the entire movie is a massive missed opportunity that just makes me think that I could write a better film. And I'm not claiming to be a professional-level screenwriter. I'm just saying that it's so obvious that anybody should be able to see the clear path.
I used to think that too, that Cyke had to front and center during her "darkness" to be true to the comic-book saga. But in the DP saga, Jean was slowly seduced and manipulated over a period of months. There's not enough time for that in a movie, that would take a TV miniseries. So in the movie, instead of being slowly seduced into darkness, it seems she will be "shocked" into it. The only meaningful way that could happen is if she lost Cyclops somehow. If the writers "get" that, I think they understand the spirit of the DP saga. After all, in the comics Jean's seduction by Jason Wyngarde began when she was vulnerable and thought Cyclops was dead in Antarctica. Hopefully Cyclops will return at the end of the movie to more than just "save the day." I am confident he will have an emotionally significant role in to play in bringing the movieverse DP saga to a conclusion. :D

AcidTWister
04-20-2006, 12:07 AM
well, there's speculation in the thread on the preview that it may be the item on the front page of the new website. the "Summit of the 'Cure'". if that's the case, it likely has nothing to do with cyclops at all.

if anything it may give rogue, mystique, beast, or angel spoilers away.

jcykeson
04-20-2006, 12:38 AM
I still think Fox rushed in making the Phoenix Saga coincide with the Cure.. i mean, Phoenix Saga should be a story on it's own, with Cyke and Jean the main character.. now it seems to be like a subplot instead..

CapBeerCino
04-20-2006, 12:46 AM
I still think Fox rushed in making the Phoenix Saga coincide with the Cure.. i mean, Phoenix Saga should be a story on it's own, with Cyke and Jean the main character.. now it seems to be like a subplot instead..

Nah, the cure is the subplot imo.

LEX
04-20-2006, 12:48 AM
I think the cure storyline is a great idea. Shows another side of the humans. Personally, I think in every X-Men movie, there should be two story arcs. Unless, of course, one of them is too big, so make it a whole movie.

jusblaze21
04-20-2006, 12:57 AM
I still think Fox rushed in making the Phoenix Saga coincide with the Cure.. i mean, Phoenix Saga should be a story on it's own, with Cyke and Jean the main character.. now it seems to be like a subplot instead..

Either way they could of incorporated Cyclops to have a major role in this, I see more than one oppurtunity for him to have a bigger part in this film. a lot of scenes that wolverine has could be have given to Cyke. For example the scene were Storm and Wolverine are upset over the Wheel chair that's missing Xavier, that could be Scott instead of Logan and the Scene would be just as powerful. Some of those speeches wolverine gave to some of the younger x-men could of went to CYclops. And in the scence where the X-men are lined up for the Last stand, that would of been a great oppurtunity to show Cykes Field Leadership.

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-20-2006, 01:06 AM
Either way they could of incorporated Cyclops to have a major role in this, I see more than one oppurtunity for him to have a bigger part in this film. a lot of scenes that wolverine has could be have given to Cyke. For example the scene were Storm and Wolverine are upset over the Wheel chair that's missing Xavier, that could be Scott instead of Logan and the Scene would be just as powerful. Some of those speeches wolverine gave to some of the younger x-men could of went to CYclops. And in the scence where the X-men are lined up for the Last stand, that would of been a great oppurtunity to show Cykes Field Leadership.

I'm a supporter of Cyclops getting a larger role in this movie, but just what exactly do you expect them to do?

James Marsden did have more time than originally planned on to shoot his role in this film. But his time was still limited, what with Superman Returns and all.

I still feel that Cyclops is going to have a very significant role in this film, even if his screentime might not be equal to Wolverine's.

I feel that Wolverine speech ("Look at me Jean. We can help you, we can fix it, we can make it like it was. Stay with me!"), though at first glance makes it look like Wolverine is getting Cyclops' role in the Phoenix Saga, is really there to show that no matter how hard he tries, and no matter how much he may love her, Wolverine can't bring her back. When he pleads with her, she wants him to kill her. But when Cyclops pleads with her, the love between Cyclops and Jean will be so strong, that she will be able to break free from the corruption of the Phoenix, and become herself once again.

Although I would have loved to see Cyclops lead the team in that lineup, I do think he will have a dramatic entrance in the final battle (and dramatic entrances are always the best), and he will lead his X-Men to victory against the Sentinels, the Brotherhood, the humans, or any combination of those threats. And he will bring Jean back. And Wolverine won't be the hero.

And I want to make a comment on the "Main characters of X2" comment...

Although Wolverine is obviously a main character, I don't think Nightcrawler was. He had that great scene in the beginning, and was kinda of in the background the rest of the way. Behind Wolverine, I think Jean Grey was the main character, as the entirety of X2 focused on her evolution, and the foreshadowing of Phoenix.

jusblaze21
04-20-2006, 01:18 AM
I'm a supporter of Cyclops getting a larger role in this movie, but just what exactly do you expect them to do?

James Marsden did have more time than originally planned on to shoot his role in this film. But his time was still limited, what with Superman Returns and all.

I still feel that Cyclops is going to have a very significant role in this film, even if his screentime might not be equal to Wolverine's.

I feel that Wolverine speech ("Look at me Jean. We can help you, we can fix it, we can make it like it was. Stay with me!"), though at first glance makes it look like Wolverine is getting Cyclops' role in the Phoenix Saga, is really there to show that no matter how hard he tries, and no matter how much he may love her, Wolverine can't bring her back. When he pleads with her, she wants him to kill her. But when Cyclops pleads with her, the love between Cyclops and Jean will be so strong, that she will be able to break free from the corruption of the Phoenix, and become herself once again.

Although I would have loved to see Cyclops lead the team in that lineup, I do think he will have a dramatic entrance in the final battle (and dramatic entrances are always the best), and he will lead his X-Men to victory against the Sentinels, the Brotherhood, the humans, or any combination of those threats. And he will bring Jean back. And Wolverine won't be the hero.

And I want to make a comment on the "Main characters of X2" comment...

Although Wolverine is obviously a main character, I don't think Nightcrawler was. He had that great scene in the beginning, and was kinda of in the background the rest of the way. Behind Wolverine, I think Jean Grey was the main character, as the entirety of X2 focused on her evolution, and the foreshadowing of Phoenix.

I agree with you on that scene, It shows no matter how hard Wolvie tries he can't reach Jean like Cyclops can which gives me reason to believe that Scott will bring back Jean.

Bishop2
04-20-2006, 01:20 AM
And what if Cyke dies and then doesn't come back? I guess that'll just prove that scene with Logan and Jean really WAS just bad writing and stupid decision-making.

LEX
04-20-2006, 01:22 AM
If Cyclops is really dead and never returns, then I'd be extremely pissed.

Bishop2
04-20-2006, 01:25 AM
Although Wolverine is obviously a main character, I don't think Nightcrawler was. He had that great scene in the beginning, and was kinda of in the background the rest of the way. Behind Wolverine, I think Jean Grey was the main character, as the entirety of X2 focused on her evolution, and the foreshadowing of Phoenix.

Nightcrawler had his big opening, his introductory scene in the church, his dramatic rescue of Rogue, his scenes with Storm and his resue (alongside her) of the professor... whereas Jean did rescue the plane from one missile and then die at the end, but she didn't really have many notable dialogue scenes (other than rejecting Logan's sad-sack advances yet again, because she has to do that in every movie for him to get the message apparently).

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-20-2006, 01:34 AM
Nightcrawler had his big opening, his introductory scene in the church, his dramatic rescue of Rogue, his scenes with Storm and his resue (alongside her) of the professor... whereas Jean did rescue the plane from one missile and then die at the end, but she didn't really have many notable dialogue scenes (other than rejecting Logan's sad-sack advances yet again, because she has to do that in every movie for him to get the message apparently).

Jean's evolution didn't have to be blatantly blasted into your face to make it a very important part of the movie.

Nightcrawler's relationship with Storm was sidelined at best, and hardly that impactful to the overall importance of the story. The only payoff from it was Storm's "I have faith" line, to get him to teleport her into Cerebro, where Nightcrawler's saving of Rogue had no importance to the story, but was rather there for a special effects shot.

Nightcrawler had 2 important scenes, really. The opening scene in the White House, and the church scene, where the truth behind the attack was revealed.

Meanwhile, throughout the story, Jean was developing as a character, for a payoff that had not just significance for that movie, but significance to the trilogy as a whole, and is leading to an even bigger payoff in X-Men 3, whereas Nightcrawler is absent.

Don't get me wrong. I love Nightcrawler in the comics, I love him in the movie. I wish he was in X-Men 3. But overall, he was in X2 to add something new to the mix. Jean Grey was a much more significant character. She might not have had all the big special effects shots, but she was definatley a major factor.

Octoberist
04-20-2006, 01:43 AM
I wish Nightcrawler was in X3 too...(and Gambit)

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-20-2006, 01:45 AM
I wish Nightcrawler was in X3 too...(and Gambit)

:up:

jusblaze21
04-20-2006, 01:46 AM
And what if Cyke dies and then doesn't come back? I guess that'll just prove that scene with Logan and Jean really WAS just bad writing and stupid decision-making.

Well since I have'nt seen the scene it's hard to really get anything from it, But from what I saw and assumed from it was that Logan tried to bring Jean back to her senses but failed. I dont think they would have that scene in the movie for no reason, there's a reason for the scence and It could be to show how Wolverine's Lust over Jean is'nt as strong as Scotts love. It would be redundant to have that scene and then in the end to have Wolverine save Jean. I guess that would be bad writing.

LEX
04-20-2006, 01:51 AM
I wish Nightcrawler was in X3 too...(and Gambit)
Ditto. :o

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-20-2006, 01:53 AM
Well since I have'nt seen the scene it's hard to really get anything from it, But from what I saw and assumed from it was that Logan tried to bring Jean back to her senses but failed. I dont think they would have that scene in the movie for no reason, there's a reason for the scence and It could be to show how Wolverine's Lust over Jean is'nt as strong as Scotts love. It would be redundant to have that scene and then in the end to have Wolverine save Jean. I guess that would be bad writing.

Agreed.

He tries to bring her back, and what does he get for his actions?

Flung against the wall, that's what! :)

Cyclops won't die. Jean is crazy from the get go (as seen by her supposed "psycho" look in the TV spot kiss)

LEX
04-20-2006, 01:58 AM
I'm still curious as to how Jean will escape from the mansion. Would she just walk out of there w/o being noticed? I'd hate it if we see Jean going crazy all Logan, blasting the doors and then fading to another Brotherhood scene and then fade to Logan. I'm all for one single scene of Jean at the mansion and blast the roof. :o:p

martinbluther
04-20-2006, 03:53 AM
HOLY SHNIKES!!!! Someone mentioned a tv series... someone call sci-fi... if Smallville can make it, X-Men, the series, can definitely make it... and then we can have all the fun we have wanted....

martinbluther
04-20-2006, 03:53 AM
seriously, a live-action series like Battlestar coudl make it on sci-fi... millions would watch it...

CapBeerCino
04-20-2006, 06:16 AM
I'm still curious as to how Jean will escape from the mansion. Would she just walk out of there w/o being noticed? I'd hate it if we see Jean going crazy all Logan, blasting the doors and then fading to another Brotherhood scene and then fade to Logan. I'm all for one single scene of Jean at the mansion and blast the roof. :o:p

That could be great! :up: (Is sound more like a missing scene in the dvd, but I could work with that)...

LEX
04-20-2006, 06:32 AM
That could be great! :up: (Is sound more like a missing scene in the dvd, but I could work with that)...
Glad to know someone agrees. :up: A confused Jean walks in the mansion hallway. She sees the students and then demolecularizes them.

Harsh? :p Fine, she blasts them off their feet and just walks out of there. But I recall remembering reading Kinberg's answer about the mansion not being the movie very much. Damn. :o

peteapan
04-20-2006, 06:57 AM
Well in regards to Jeans escape from the mansion, it looks like she sorts her issues with Xavier before she leaves so that shot of the empty wheelchair and holes in walls could be her escape path, or cosidering Magneto features in that scene with Jean and Charles either Juggernaut Smashing his way in or Magneto smashing his way out

LEX
04-20-2006, 07:04 AM
What are you talking about? Are you talking the scene with Jean at her house? We're talking about the scene at the X-mansion where Jean wakes up.

Verlin
04-20-2006, 07:11 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed earlier (sorry if that might be the case). But something caught my eye, when I watched the X3 teaser, some minutes ago. After Jean destroyes the door in the X-lab, and walks out as if nothing has happend, you see a scene of Storm in the end battle. And now watch the background!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Verlin/122.jpg

There are some really fast red flashes, looking strangely like good old Cyke using his blasts. Watch the teaser and tell me what you think. Could it be him or has Logan a strangely new mutant ability, given to him in this film, to safe the day? XD

What do ya think?

Bishop2
04-20-2006, 07:15 AM
I'm thinking that's a shot from the Danger Room sequence, and it's a laser blast from the robot they're taking on.

LEX
04-20-2006, 07:17 AM
It's from the Danger Room. In the Showest clip, it showed most of the stuff in the Danger Room and we see Storm flying just like that.

Maze
04-20-2006, 07:17 AM
i think that there is a sentinel in the danger room...thanks to the designer of the movie ( you can't guess :) )

Welcome to you Verlin :)

peteapan
04-20-2006, 07:17 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed earlier (sorry if that might be the case). But something caught my eye, when I watched the X3 teaser, some minutes ago. After Jean destroyes the door in the X-lab, and walks out as if nothing has happend, you see a scene of Storm in the end battle. And now watch the background!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Verlin/122.jpg

There are some really fast red flashes, looking strangely like good old Cyke using his blasts. Watch the teaser and tell me what you think. Could it be him or has Logan a strangely new mutant ability, given to him in this film, to safe the day? XD

What do ya think?

Why would cyclops be that high up? His blasts dont look like that either. Thats a danger room scene so obviously its gonna be a part of that, maybe a gun turret or my thinking is sentinals firing down as part of the programme

LEX
04-20-2006, 07:18 AM
And yes, welcome to the Hype, Verlin. :up:

Verlin
04-20-2006, 07:20 AM
Hm, okay haven't thought about that. xD Hope never dies!

And thanks for the welcome!^^

Bishop2
04-20-2006, 07:30 AM
Why would cyclops be that high up?

He could be firing upwards from the ground, AT Storm... ;)

"You can't lead the team for crap, pretender!" :p

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Hm, okay haven't thought about that. xD Hope never dies!

And thanks for the welcome!^^

No it doesn't. ;)

LEX
04-20-2006, 07:58 AM
And hope is extinguished when things don't go as expected. I'm hoping to see Sentinels at the final battle. They better not disappoint. :o *grabs shotgun*

SublimeDelusion
04-20-2006, 08:06 AM
I feel that Wolverine speech ("Look at me Jean. We can help you, we can fix it, we can make it like it was. Stay with me!"), though at first glance makes it look like Wolverine is getting Cyclops' role in the Phoenix Saga, is really there to show that no matter how hard he tries, and no matter how much he may love her, Wolverine can't bring her back. When he pleads with her, she wants him to kill her. But when Cyclops pleads with her, the love between Cyclops and Jean will be so strong, that she will be able to break free from the corruption of the Phoenix, and become herself once again.

Although I would have loved to see Cyclops lead the team in that lineup, I do think he will have a dramatic entrance in the final battle (and dramatic entrances are always the best), and he will lead his X-Men to victory against the Sentinels, the Brotherhood, the humans, or any combination of those threats. And he will bring Jean back. And Wolverine won't be the hero.




If I remember correctly, there are some instances of films where lines said in the previews aren't always said by the same people as in the previews. For example: Ghostbusters 2. If you watch that trailer, and then the movie, you'll see what I mean. So, I guess the point is, trailers can be misleading. But until any of these "pre-screenings" get leaked if they happen, no one will really know.

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 08:08 AM
And hope is extinguished when things don't go as expected. I'm hoping to see Sentinels at the final battle. They better not disappoint. :o *grabs shotgun*

I got ratners address just in case............. if he screws this up. wow. yo have no idea what I'm going to do.......... I'm going to go into my den, unlock my cabinet,


and theh I'm going to grab a peice of paper and write him a really mean letter, then send it to him........... TAKE THAT!!!!

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 08:09 AM
What do you think of the Cyclops thread over at the SHH! forums?They've started a witchhunt to find out your SN over there.

*Still haven’t checked it out. I’m scared.

Latest Q&A...

Jan Irisi
04-20-2006, 08:12 AM
Latest Q&A...

Awwww....he shouldn't be afraid of us. We're really sweet people, aren't we?


*sharpens fangs, cracks knuckles*

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 08:29 AM
well now we know he hasn't been on here in awhile, time to start the search again.........

Maze
04-20-2006, 08:32 AM
Hmm hi Sublimedelusion :) aeemmm :o

LEX
04-20-2006, 08:38 AM
I just read Kinberg's answers. He's lurking. :o

Jan Irisi
04-20-2006, 08:39 AM
*waves and blows a kiss to the lurker*



:D

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 08:47 AM
I just read Kinberg's answers. He's lurking. :o

I'm about to let the dogs out, time to hunt him down....... then we can tie him up and force the answers out.......

LEX
04-20-2006, 08:49 AM
And when you're tying me up, I'll make him drink Veritaserum. He'll spill out even his darkest secrets. :o

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 08:50 AM
And when you're tying me up, I'll make him drink Veritaserum. He'll spill out even his darkest secrets. :o

Don't you mean 'him'? :p

LEX
04-20-2006, 08:57 AM
Don't you mean 'him'? :p
Oh, damn. Dammit, it's way past my bedtime. :o:p

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 09:13 AM
SImon is scared of us now? heheh...beware Simon. you know all those hypesters you hear on the SHH boards? I'm the worse one. :p

LastSunrise1981
04-20-2006, 09:22 AM
Are you scared Simon? Well you shouldn't be. Because you're on Scare Tactics!

:eek:

LEX
04-20-2006, 09:24 AM
Hey, LastSunrise1981, cool avatar. :p

Maze
04-20-2006, 09:25 AM
Lol personnaly (and it's just a guess based on observation, i could be wrong) i am in agreement with Storm22 now: Sublimedelusion is Simon ..

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 09:30 AM
Lol personnaly (and it's just a guess based on observation, i could be wrong) i am in agreement with Storm22 now: Sublimedelusion is Simon ..

:eek: I think your right Maze...

Maze
04-20-2006, 09:32 AM
:eek: I think your right Maze...
Lol :eek: hey you could be on something , seriously!

Simon , you devil!:D

Have you read his posts?

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 09:36 AM
Lol :eek: hey you could be on something , seriously!

Simon , you devil!:D

Have you read his posts?

CAN you guys show some of his posts??

Maze
04-20-2006, 09:40 AM
CAN you guys show some of his posts??
Go see on his profile : he has just posted five posts and 2 of them are more about artwork and photos.

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 09:46 AM
Go see on his profile : he has just posted five posts and 2 of them are more about artwork and photos.

hmmmm, it could be him, very very interesting........ well I can say one thing, this simon hunt is more entertaining then F4, Daredevil, Electra and the Hulk combined......

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 09:48 AM
Lol personnaly (and it's just a guess based on observation, i could be wrong) i am in agreement with Storm22 now: Sublimedelusion is Simon ..

:eek:

By george, you're on to something!

I may be too!

Storm22 = Tom
Mr Lex Luthor = Rex
WorthyStevens = Wes

My name must be Wes! :eek:



:p

Paste Pot Pete
04-20-2006, 09:50 AM
I'm a supporter of Cyclops getting a larger role in this movie, but just what exactly do you expect them to do?


In a perfect world?

After sitting with their thumbs up their damn rears for 2 years, wait a little longer!

Wait until James Marsden, the actor who plays Cyclops, the leader of the X-Men, and a central character to the story arc you're about to embark on, can film a role that's suitable for the film. Not just an acceptable one, a solid one. A major one. A starring one.

You wouldn't have to halt work on everything. I wouldn't expect production to cease because "Oh, no! James Marsden isn't available yet!" I know that's not how Hollywood works; he's not Tom Cruise. Just reserve the time for a main character to do his job. It couldn't be that hard. You'd think he was playing Superman, for crying out loud. He's Lois Lane's boyfriend. Hugh Jackman can come out with 10 movies in one year as the star of each. How does he manage that?

I think the whole scheduling conflict thing is mostly B.S. anyway. They could've managed it fine. But it works as a convenient excuse to shaft a main character, who they assume (mistakenly so, I might add) the audience doesn't care about.

Does he "live" in the end? Probably. But the fact that we're scraping for screentime, living or dead, is sad and pointless.

Maze
04-20-2006, 09:58 AM
:eek:

By george, you're on to something!

I may be too!

Storm22 = Tom
Mr Lex Luthor = Rex
WorthyStevens = Wes

My name must be Wes! :eek:



:p

lol tsss Dark is on it..and i dunno he may be right.

look at that:
SublimeDelusion
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Well, seeing as how everyone keeps bringing up the two weeks filming thing, I thought that I'd at least chime in. It seems like the one little bit that we get to see of what MAY be cyclops in uniform could come from the last battle. If indeed the last battle is where they got the newer picture of beast from. For starters, the framing around his head could be the lines on the building, or if it's indoors, a window in a door. Considering that picture does make it look like he's reaching for the side of his visor, it could well be a door that's "blocked"... Regardless, the little bit of information that seems to be here is that he does seem present in that one pic. Where it's from, there's no certainty. Although, i will say that 12-14 days of being able to film isn't very bad. I'm sure that the lake scene might not have taken more than a day.. maybe two.. Some of the scenes in the mansion probably a day or two... That still leaves a LOT of time there that's unaccounted for. And wasn't there some comments about Marsden just hanging around the set when he had some time? I mean, if the guy has a lot of time to just hang around, they may have just done smaller scenes with him interspersed into that if they weren't a major deal... Plus, and I may have missed this, did anyone EVER say WHEN they filmed certain scenes? Because if he was to be around in the final battle, there's no proof to exist one way or the other, that I see, that says they may have been stopped from filming it then. So on that, I really don't think that the time is a factor.

It may be me ,reading too much into it..but,he seems to really know what he is talking about ..and the guy seem really to imply a lot of things..

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 10:01 AM
I doubt that's Simon... He's had to have been here longer than since March.

Maze
04-20-2006, 10:04 AM
Well ,i find strange that at the moment, one insist that there is a "witchhunt "here , and that he should check it out ,sublime reappear from out of nowhere.

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 10:06 AM
ever thought maybe he has more than one screen name? -shrugs- very unlikely... but you never know if he's covering his tracks.

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 10:07 AM
ever thought maybe he has more than one screen name? -shrugs- very unlikely... but you never know if he's covering his tracks.

I think that's a bit much. :p

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 10:09 AM
I think that's a bit much. :p

:p come on... lol. think about it :p I can smell it...

PhoenixRisen
04-20-2006, 10:12 AM
But the fact that we're scraping for screentime, living or dead, is sad and pointless.
I agree. Especially since screentime does not equal quality. Anthony Hokins won an Oscar for approx. 16 minutes of screentime in "Silence of the Lambs." (I'm guessing that's about the same amount of screentime Cyke had in X2.) If you want screentime for the sake of screentime, make a Cyclops screensaver. :D

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 10:12 AM
:p come on... lol. think about it :p I can smell it...

is it last nights dinner you smell.......

Maze
04-20-2006, 10:13 AM
Nope, there is no doubts in my mind now the Sublime is Simon.

The way , he writes ,how he seems to know what he is talking about, the way he is thought provoking , not saying anything obviously directly but pushing you to think
about it.The fact that Sublime reappear the same where somebody tell him that he should check the board.

imo it's Simon.

Paste Pot Pete
04-20-2006, 10:16 AM
I agree. Especially since screentime does not equal quality. Anthony Hokins won an Oscar for approx. 16 minutes of screentime in "Silence of the Lambs." (I'm guessing that's about the same amount of screentime Cyke had in X2.) If you want screentime for the sake of screentime, make a Cyclops screensaver. :D

Yes, but the point is..

we shouldn't have to choose between quantity or quality. It's not always an either/or. Ideally, it's both.

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 10:20 AM
is it last nights dinner you smell.......

I didn;t have dinner last night :(

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 10:26 AM
I didn;t have dinner last night :(

dude, what's up with you??? no car, no food............ you better find a better job, or else I shoud start up the DoD fund again???

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 10:29 AM
I do have a job :p lol Its just sometimes Im not hungry when i come home late from the college...

JokerNick
04-20-2006, 10:46 AM
I do have a job :p lol Its just sometimes Im not hungry when i come home late from the college...

I hear that, I'm the same way, but then I wake up and eat a quart of ice-cream.........

CapBeerCino
04-20-2006, 10:58 AM
dude, what's up with you??? no car, no food............ you better find a better job, or else I shoud start up the DoD fund again???

What did happen to the 100$ I sent? :p

DarknessOfDeath
04-20-2006, 12:16 PM
http://premium1.uploadit.org/wombat99//cyclops.JPG

Say ah?

PikaZeroX
04-20-2006, 12:26 PM
http://premium1.uploadit.org/wombat99//cyclops.JPG

Say ah?

Looks to me like it's an unfinished FX shot from when he rips off his glasses and blasts the lake.

Aiden
04-20-2006, 12:34 PM
Looks to me like it's an unfinished FX shot from when he rips off his glasses and blasts the lake.That's because its a BTS shot

peteapan
04-20-2006, 12:40 PM
cool pic of him minus the blasts. I agree that that Sublime post does reek of someone who knows a little bit too much

Bishop2
04-20-2006, 01:07 PM
Why does he blast the lake?

"Stupid water... killed my girlfriend... I HATE YOUSE!!!"

peteapan
04-20-2006, 01:17 PM
Why does he blast the lake?

"Stupid water... killed my girlfriend... I HATE YOUSE!!!"

pretty much