Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[xwolverine2]

From new Total Film "Wolverine and Jean's relationship this time goes further than its ever gone before" says Jackman.

Boo
well duh.... they have never had sex on an operating table before.

[CapBeerCino]

Glances to the side

:up: That's more like it!

[CapBeerCino]

From new Total Film "Wolverine and Jean's relationship this time goes further than its ever gone before" says Jackman.

Boo

:mad: I want to see Bats when he hears about this! :o

[TromaFreak64]

We'd have had more if better jobs had been done on both the Hulk & Daredevil (though in the latters case releasing the original directors version may have helped there). Next year looks like being at least 3: Spider-man 3, Ghost Rider & Fantastic Four 2, but other than these I don't think much is confirmed in bringing other Marvel characters to the big screen atm.

Well I have attended a couple different quaterly meetings now for Marvel and they definetely showcase some mauck logos and stuff for a lot of films that are on there plate. Initially a lot of them were scheduled for this year but realistically they keep changing it every year and pushing them back further.

For example they have teased logos for Namor, Thor, Iron Man, The Black Panther, Nick Fury, The Hulk 2, Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider, The Punisher 2, Wolverine, Cage, Iron Fist, Captain America, Werewolf By Night, and many more. The original theory was that many of these properties would be outsource to other companies. (With the exception of Iron Man which Marvel though New Line would develop however their contractual timeframe ran out with no movement so the rights recently reverted back to Marvel to either shop around or sell themselves).

Man of us know part of the delay was when Marvel recieved their massive line of credit and put a large number of characters up for collateral (including Nick Fury, Thor, Hawkeye, etc.) We now know that Zak Penn will be doing one of the films that was put up for collateral just not which one.

Back on focus, the major part of the delay is Marvel can now make movies in house. All of them planned so far are contractually obligated to be PG-13 films associated with the line of credit.

Marvel also has another agreement that was reached around the time of the Punisher taking off on DVD sales. The agreement at that time was with Lionsgate to produce several films direct to video and theater for less than 30 million dollars (a la the Punisher). This would allow even the smallest of characters to get their chance to shine, and especially those that did not require such heavy budget work. Over 30 characters are being planned and developed with Lionsgate with deals already signed for at least 5 big screens appearences and 12 animated adventures.

Captain America according Arad was something that would along the scales of Spiderman in budget and appeal. So I would not hold your breath anytime soon for that film. They will wait and play it up once some of their other more popular franchises start to cool off.

As a result you are correct Marvel has a slow year this year with one film being released. However subsequent years will pick up and it even looks like they have more on their plate than they can handle.

Now back to Cyclops.

[The Batman]

:mad: I want to see Bats when he hears about this! :o


I already read that quote, remember? I was the first to say that jackman stated that....


They're really making it hard for me to like this movie. i was almost ready to accept Cyclops death, but if they're gonna kill him off and do this to him as well, i might as well go back to my original stance on this movie.

[Maze]

anyways , let's face it peope , there are not a lot of chances that scott could shine now if the screen time is confirmed.

[Aiden]

anyways , let's face it peope , there are not a lot of chances that scott could shine now if the screen time is confirmed.When was it confirmed :confused:

[Bastila]

Whats his screen time then?

[TromaFreak64]

Does it concern anyone besides me that the video game has already released in game footage of Silver Samurai, Jason Little, and Multiple Man without any of Cyclops? We have also seen footage for most everyone else.

In fact the only characters that have not appeared that have profiles are Magneto, Professor X and Cyclops. Beast does not have a profile (the sketches that label important features of the character) that has been released yet so I am not including him. All others from Sabertooth, to Storm have appeared in-game-graphics already.

[Maze]

When was it confirmed :confused:
Reread me Aiden , i said if the running time is confirmed ;)

[aaron]

because...since the movie time seems quite short compared to what we feel it needs to be, not alot of screentime is still alot in that 104 mins

[TromaFreak64]

Whats his screen time then?

I think he was refering to the screentime of the movie as a whole, and that his footage in this case just from what we have seen would allow him to shine. This all assumes the 1 hour 43 minutes is accurate.

[berzerko89]

great! the whole movie is 1 hr and 43 min and scenes w/ cyke will only last about 10 to 15 min. sighs!

*thumbs down*

[Aiden]

Reread me Aiden , i said if the running time is confirmed ;)Ahh. Sorry.

Yes, the running time has NOT been confirmed. As far as I'm concerned, the discussion about the SUPPOSED running time should not be happening

[lordofthenerds]

great! the whole movie is 1 hr and 43 min and scenes w/ cyke will only last about 10 to 15 min. sighs!

*thumbs down*
You know SHH made a picture (:down ) to signify that. :p But your right that would suck.

[Kurosawa]

I already read that quote, remember? I was the first to say that jackman stated that....


They're really making it hard for me to like this movie. i was almost ready to accept Cyclops death, but if they're gonna kill him off and do this to him as well, i might as well go back to my original stance on this movie.

Screw this movie. I hope Superman Returns DESTROYS it.

All those who are responsable for Cyclops crap treatment and death in it can go straight to hell.

And really...holding out for hope that he'll live and make a big heroic return at the end or any of that rubbish...it just seems sillier every time I hear it.

[Maze]

Ahh. Sorry.

Yes, the running time has NOT been confirmed. As far as I'm concerned, the discussion about the SUPPOSED running time should not be happening
Well , if this is confirmed this discussion will occur..
i think that this is better if people express now their view on the subject.

at least , in a way if they are ready , they will not be disapointed too much. they will have had the time to really think about the topic.

[Aiden]

Well , you if this is confirmed this discussion will occur..
i think that this is better if people express now their view on the subject.

at least , in a way if they are ready , they will not be disapointed too much.Yes, I know. TBH I don't think it is the correct one.

Zak Penn: Between X1 and X2
Jackman: Biggest Script.

It doesn't make sense

[_BB_]

Biggest doesnt mean longest ;)

[Aiden]

Biggest doesnt mean longest ;)It can mean many things, but in the context Hugh was using it, He made it sound like it was long. Hugh even thinks it's the best one yet

[Maze]

Biggest doesnt mean longest ;)
In that case , it could:

You don't do a Ben hur , Once upon a time in America or to be more topical Rotk and Revenge of the sith in 1H43.

[Aiden]

In that case , it could:

You don't do Ben hur or Once upon a time in America in 1H43.My dad loves that movie.

[Kurosawa]

In that case , it could:

You don't do Ben hur or Once upon a time in America in 1H43.

The execs at FOX would if they thought they could make more $$$ off of it.

[Maze]

My dad loves that movie.
It's one of my favorite :)

Did you see it?

[Maze]

The execs at FOX would if they thought they could make more $$$ off of it.
Well going by their logic , any of the Lotr made more money than any of their Xmen..

[Aiden]

It's one of my favorite :)

Did you see it?http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9566/picture1337ia.jpg
Yup :D :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

Screw this movie. I hope Superman Returns DESTROYS it.

All those who are responsable for Cyclops crap treatment and death in it can go straight to hell.

And really...holding out for hope that he'll live and make a big heroic return at the end or any of that rubbish...it just seems sillier every time I hear it.

:rolleyes: Why are you still here? You don't know what's going to happen and neither does anyone else.

I expect you to eat a lot of crow if he does live and return at the end for a final stand. But then again, I really won't expect you to, as more than likely you'll disappear or try to dance around the subject.

[Maze]

Yes, I know. TBH I don't think it is the correct one.

Zak Penn: Between X1 and X2
Jackman: Biggest Script.

It doesn't make sense
I completly understand why you doubt it.

i saw again the trailers , thought about the plot points, characters etc...

there is no way you can make , with all that ,a movie of 1H43 and give it real justice

it's ridiculous.

[Aiden]

:rolleyes: Why are you still here? You don't know what's going to happen and neither does anyone else.

I expect you to eat a lot of crow if he does live and return at the end for a final stand. But then again, I really won't expect you to, as more than likely you'll disappear or try to dance around the subject.I'll eat my hat if Rangers get into the Champions League (done that earlier this year) and if Kurosawa is right :up:

[Maze]

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9566/picture1337ia.jpg
Yup :D :up:
:D:up:

Great , "beautiful" movie :) :up:

[Aiden]

I know

[Maze]

Even ,if i like a lot what Singer has done, with in mind that he never surely had the means to do what he really wanted , i feel that the Xmen could really be a "Once upon in America " type of movie.

A movie even more Epic , even more of a character study ,even more moving ,with even more depht .

The Xmen could be much more.

[Sun_Down]

:rolleyes: Why are you still here? You don't know what's going to happen and neither does anyone else.

I expect you to eat a lot of crow if he does live and return at the end for a final stand. But then again, I really won't expect you to, as more than likely you'll disappear or try to dance around the subject.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sun_down/tkotoaliowned.jpg

People! Quit presuming to know what's gonna happen and how long the movie should be! When this movie comes out and kicks all levels of ass you will eat your words.

[Maze]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sun_down/tkotoaliowned.jpg

People! Quit presuming to know what's gonna happen and how long the movie should be! When this movie comes out and kicks all levels of ass you will eat your words.
Why do your opinion would be more valuable, when you predict that it will kick all level of ass?

based on what? two (great) trailers?

trailers are decieving , i hope you know that.

if the movie is great i will gladly say it .But, i don't get my hopes too high.
I expect a good movie..nothing else ..

and it will be already be good.

[Aiden]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sun_down/tkotoaliowned.jpg

People! Quit presuming to know what's gonna happen and how long the movie should be! When this movie comes out and kicks all levels of ass you will eat your words.ditto
Even ,if i like a lot what Singer has done, with in mind that he never surely had the means to do what he really wanted , i feel that the Xmen could really be a "Once upon in America " type of movie.

A movie even more Epic , even more of a character study ,even more moving ,with even more depht .

The Xmen could be much more.That's why the franchise needs a new studio

[Maze]

ditto
That's why the franchise needs a new studio
yup , there is no doubts about that on my mind.

[Aiden]

yup , there is no doubts about that on my mind.*looks at the bottom of OUATIA dvd. See's WB sign*

*sighs*:(

[xwolverine2]

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1048/cykeblast803fa.gif (http://imageshack.us)
made this...

[Aiden]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3659/cykblast9ic.gif (http://imageshack.us)
made this...That's awesome

[jcykeson]

that picture looks good! but boohoo if that's the only time we'll see his blast..

[CapBeerCino]

I already read that quote, remember? I was the first to say that jackman stated that....


I was pretty sure yours was a different one :confused:
How can he really say that? (How could they really do that to the story that is)

[The Batman]

I was pretty sure yours was a different one :confused:
How can he really say that? (How could they really do that to the story that is)

Well, hes the star of the franchise, pretty much, not to mention a producer on the film.

[LastSunrise1981]

Why do your opinion would be more valuable, when you predict that it will kick all level of ass?

based on what? two (great) trailers?

trailers are decieving , i hope you know that.

if the movie is great i will gladly say it .But, i don't get my hopes too high.
I expect a good movie..nothing else ..

and it will be already be good.

There's nothing wrong with having confidence/faith in a film. But when people constantly whine, presume to know that it's going to suck, or presume to know that (Insert character name) here will die. It gets old, tiresome, and shows that they really have no clear thought on this movie.

They just whine to be whining really.

[astonishingcyke]

Hey guys, whats been shakin? Ive been gone a few days and lookin for an update if anyone is feeling generous.

[Bishop2]

There's nothing wrong with having confidence/faith in a film. But when people constantly whine, presume to know that it's going to suck, or presume to know that (Insert character name) here will die. It gets old, tiresome, and shows that they really have no clear thought on this movie.

They just whine to be whining really.

I have a friend who says she'll always have faith in any given franchise until they produce a sucky entry. Based on that alone, she's hoping X3 will deliver.

I also, personally, used to have faith in my own abilities to judge whether I would like or hate a movie on its trailer alone. Unfortunately, somewhere around 1997 I completely lost that gift, and now I am frequently lured into films that wind up sucking.

[Bishop2]

Screw this movie. I hope Superman Returns DESTROYS it.

All those who are responsable for Cyclops crap treatment and death in it can go straight to hell.

And really...holding out for hope that he'll live and make a big heroic return at the end or any of that rubbish...it just seems sillier every time I hear it.

I'm not looking forward to Superman Returns either. Not a whit.

I think V for Vendetta will probably be this year's best comic film. Of course, that might've been true even if the other two movies didn't seem to suck on the face of it.

[martinbluther]

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[martinbluther]

just make sure Fox doesn't produce it, RATner is far away......... give it to Nolan or back to Singer......... X3 will be a hack and slash movie...

when the DVD comes out, the back of the DVD case will say this

"Fox, being pissed at Bryan Singer for leaving the x-franchise to make Superman Returns, decided to rush production on X3. First they got writters to fit as muh plot and action into a movie as possible, but they forgot about character development, but theyweren't done there, then they hired Superman Returns afterbirth, Brett Ratner, to helm to project. Fox then quick relized that they didn't care about the fans, they decide to kill off key characters of the series, and take what should have been a 2.5 hour movie, and shorten it to 1:43 minutes. this movie has become known as, 10 lbs of x-men in a 5 lb x-men bag"


hilarious. Well-played, sir. Well-played... I don't know if it will happen, but I like your freneticism

[CapBeerCino]

Did you see that?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228533
No Cyke :(

[martinbluther]

If Cyke dies and comes back, I don't care HOW he comes back. I don't care if the freaking BEYONDER shows up in the last 10 minutes, wearing his disco-groovy white zoot suit, and brings Cyclops back from beyond the grave by asking all the little kids in the audience to clap their hands if they believe in mutants. All that matters to me that is that Cyclops lives.

another extremely funny quote. I love it. This thread has some very creative people on it...

[LastSunrise1981]

Did you see that?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228533
No Cyke :(

So? I don't see one for Beast, Collosus, or Rogue one either either. :) ;)

[Aiden]

Has anyone noticed that since Worthy left, the post count aint going up as fast as it did when he was here?

[CapBeerCino]

So? I don't see one for Beast, Collosus, or Rogue one either either. :) ;)

Yeah, but I dont care about them :o
(saw it coming, really ;) )

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah, but I dont care about them :o
(saw it coming, really ;) )

How can you not care about Frasier? I mean Beast. :O

[cyke93]

Did you see that?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228533
No Cyke :(

i wasn't surprised. angel, who is not even heavily featured in the trailers, like cyclops he has just his one scene, but yet he is featured promimently in the posters.. i doubt we'll see cyclops, if he has one, then ill be amazed.

his caption would read "Dead or Alive"

[Bishop2]

Did you see that?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228533
No Cyke :(

Since when is Storm even remotely "cursed"?

[cyke93]

Has anyone noticed that since Worthy left, the post count aint going up as fast as it did when he was here?

well there was that whole other thread about cyclops, i think should've just been posted here .. then u would've seen the post count rise dramatically.

[Aiden]

Since when is Storm even remotely "cursed"?since never

[Aiden]

well there was that whole other thread about cyclops, i think should've just been posted here .. then u would've seen the post count rise dramatically.Probably

[lordofthenerds]

i wasn't surprised. angel, who is not even heavily featured in the trailers, like cyclops he has just his one scene, but yet he is featured promimently in the posters.. i doubt we'll see cyclops, if he has one, then ill be amazed.

his caption would read "Dead or Alive"
Simon has sadi taht Angel will have some scenes with the X-Men so he'll have more than the one scene you're referring to. My caption for Cyke would be Lover/Victim or something like that.

[cyke93]

From new Total Film "Wolverine and Jean's relationship this time goes further than its ever gone before" says Jackman.

Boo

ehhh.. is this any suprise? they put more heat and passion into jean and logan than they did with scott and jean ... with things like this, its more feasible to that cyclops dies rather than lives.. and i think if he even lives, he'll still get screwed anyways.

[CapBeerCino]

How can you not care about Frasier? I mean Beast. :O

No, I care about the producer... I mean Wolverine. :up:

[cyke93]

great! the whole movie is 1 hr and 43 min and scenes w/ cyke will only last about 10 to 15 min. sighs!

*thumbs down*

15? you're very generous .. hehe ... cyclops will have main scene and that'll be in the lake when he dies, thats 5 min at most.

[CapBeerCino]

Since when is Storm even remotely "cursed"?

Since all of Cyke fans placed voodoo on her? (LS- if you're there - I kid!)

[cyke93]

Since when is Storm even remotely "cursed"?

werd.. the character of "storm" may be due cursed due to the bad portrayal from halle .. sorry halle but i never really saw you as storm.

[cyke93]

Since all of Cyke fans placed voodoo on her? (LS- if you're there - I kid!)

haha werd. .

[ShadowBoxing]

Did you see that?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228533
No Cyke :(No Beast, Colossus, Iceman, Rogue, Mystique, Juggernaut, Pyro or Shadowcat either.

[CapBeerCino]

Has anyone noticed that since Worthy left, the post count aint going up as fast as it did when he was here?

I think you're taking care of bussiness rather well in his absent :up:

[CapBeerCino]

No Beast, Colossus, Iceman, Rogue, Mystique, Juggernaut, Pyro or Shadowcat either.

As I already said - I dont care about the rest of them :p
Im not saying- therefore he dies. Im just not happy with him not getting a poster.

[Aiden]

I think you're taking care of bussiness rather well in his absent :up:Cheers

[CapBeerCino]

Im just not happy with him not getting a poster.

There, I fixed that:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5376/meat7un.png


:up:

[_BB_]

hehe :up:

[lordofthenerds]

There, I fixed that:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5376/meat7un.png


:up:
Lol, dead molecules actually. :p

[Aiden]

There, I fixed that:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5376/meat7un.png


:up:le sigh

[_BB_]

Lol, dead molecules actually. :p



dont even say the D word....

[RagingTempest]

There, I fixed that:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5376/meat7un.png


:up:

That's mean!!!:(

[lordofthenerds]

dont even say the D word....
You mean
Demolecularized

:p

[CapBeerCino]

That's mean!!!:(

I guess. So I made a better one:

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/368/meat3lp.png

Better, no?

[Aiden]

You mean
Demolecularized

:pNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO

NOW BB HAS TO SAY THE 'U' WORD!!!!!!!!!

[aaron]

I guess. So I made a better one:

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/368/meat3lp.png

Better, no?
hehe

[gambitfire]

LMAO.... I mean shame on you for making that. :D

[_BB_]

You mean
Demolecularized

:p

:eek: :mad:

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2491/eddieslap7od.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[MoiBijou]

Bwahah... eeerm, no, you shouldn't do that, boy.


lmao!

[cyke93]

lol .. dont give them any choices.. he's just dead. .. lol somtimes u just need to laugh it off.. even though this is not funny .. lol

[Kurosawa]

:rolleyes: Why are you still here? You don't know what's going to happen and neither does anyone else.

I expect you to eat a lot of crow if he does live and return at the end for a final stand. But then again, I really won't expect you to, as more than likely you'll disappear or try to dance around the subject.

Actually I've said on numerous occasions that if I'm wrong then I'll be glad to eat the biggest plate of crow ever cooked.

But I don't think I am-and every bit of evidence we have backs me up.

[Bishop2]

Those who believe Cyke will live talk a hell of a lot about the naysayers "eating crow." I wonder how willing they'll be to eat crow if Cyke is dead meat, however...

[CapBeerCino]

Those who believe Cyke will live talk a hell of a lot about the naysayers "eating crow." I wonder how willing they'll be to eat crow if Cyke is dead meat, however...

Im a veggy :o

[lordofthenerds]

Im a veggy :o
Then how much veggy-crow will you eat? :p

[LastSunrise1981]

Those who believe Cyke will live talk a hell of a lot about the naysayers "eating crow." I wonder how willing they'll be to eat crow if Cyke is dead meat, however...

If he dies, then I'll admit that I was wrong. But we're getting a little tired and bored of people whining, crying, and proclaiming that everyone else is wrong and that he'll die because they have "evidence" and the script leak is 100% proof positive that he dies.

Stop trying to spin it Bishop and learn to comprehend what you read. :rolleyes:

[CapBeerCino]

Then how much veggy-crow will you eat? :p

I would, but im on a diet :up:

[lordofthenerds]

I would, but im on a diet :up:
Low calorie veggy-crow then damnit! :mad: :p

[Bishop2]

Stop trying to spin it Bishop and learn to comprehend what you read. :rolleyes:

I didn't spin jack ****.

[CapBeerCino]

Low calorie veggy-crow then damnit! :mad: :p

Thanx, but im allergic. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

I didn't spin jack ****.

Yeah, you were. You were getting on our backs for exposing how fake some of the trolls on this board are.

You were questioning our beliefs and wondering if we would crow, yet, you refuse to acknowledge those who whined, cried, complained, and yelled that their feeling is right and those who believe Cyclops dies is an "idiot" or "naive".

You were defending the ones who proclaim to be 100% right, and that's wrong, so I called you out on it.

[ShadowBoxing]

Cyclops is on the GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE!!!!:eek:
http://www.thexverse.com/assets/gallery/xtls/artwork/X3P_004.jpg

[lordofthenerds]

Cyclops is on the GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE!!!!:eek:

No, he's on the poster. :p

[Aiden]

Yup, its a sign of things to come

[cyke93]

Yup, its a sign of things to come

i think these are one of those signs

http://www.undergroundhumor.com/home/images/tombstone_soap_large.gif

:eek: hehe i kid i kid lol

[CapBeerCino]

:eek: hehe i kid i kid lol

Whats up with the "rip slim" under your name? DONT GIVE UP ON US! :p

[Aiden]

i think these are one of those signs

http://www.undergroundhumor.com/home/images/tombstone_soap_large.gif

:eek: hehe i kid i kid lol*sigh*

*runs into corner and cries*

:p

[CapBeerCino]

*sigh*

*runs into corner and cries*

:p

:o What are you? 14-years-old :D :p

[Aiden]

:o What are you? 14-years-old :D :pYup...:p

[Bishop2]

Yeah, you were. You were getting on our backs for exposing how fake some of the trolls on this board are.

You were questioning our beliefs and wondering if we would crow, yet, you refuse to acknowledge those who whined, cried, complained, and yelled that their feeling is right and those who believe Cyclops dies is an "idiot" or "naive".

You were defending the ones who proclaim to be 100% right, and that's wrong, so I called you out on it.

No, I wasn't defending anybody, but I HAVE heard a ton of "I hope you guys who think Cyke dies will eat a ton of crow" since I"ve been here, including directed at me. And you know, I thought I'd point out that no one's ever said similar things back.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yup, its a sign of things to comeI agree thats a great sign right there.

[Storm22]

Well Prof. X is too but I highly doubt we'll see him frantically wheeling into battle! Don't get me wrong, I'm feeling optimistic about Cyclops but I wouldn't read too much into the poster.

[Spidey 2007]

Well Prof. X is too but I highly doubt we'll see him frantically wheeling into battle! Don't get me wrong, I'm feeling optimistic about Cyclops but I wouldn't read too much into the poster.

lmao....frantically wheeling, lol i can see it now..... lmfao

[Aiden]

If he does do that then his front wheels will start shaking. Thus causing him to fall out of his chair and fall off the Golden Gate Bridge

[ShadowBoxing]

Well Prof. X is too but I highly doubt we'll see him frantically wheeling into battle! Don't get me wrong, I'm feeling optimistic about Cyclops but I wouldn't read too much into the poster.Professor X: Wait for me, I'm coming.....

[Maze]

There's nothing wrong with having confidence/faith in a film. But when people constantly whine, presume to know that it's going to suck, or presume to know that (Insert character name) here will die. It gets old, tiresome, and shows that they really have no clear thought on this movie.

They just whine to be whining really.
Yup LastSunrise, but that doesn't justify the other extreme.
on the contrary , it will push "negative people" to be even more extreme.

[Bishop2]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Cyclops thread, I present to you... X3 as it should have been, in animated gif form!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3bybishop.gif

[The Original Bamfer]

LIGHTBULB!

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9644/1ab2ur.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Iceman and Storm are wearing the same clothing they wear in the pics and shots where they welcome Leech back to the Mansion! That, in the movie, is what many people believe to be the end! AND! Kitty is wearing the same outfit she wore when Storm comforts her outside!

Could it be that Cyclops is there too, in the movie, at the same point? Also - is that the same outfit Storm wears during the memorial? If so - that confirms its not Scott's.

[TromaFreak64]

LIGHTBULB!

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9644/1ab2ur.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Iceman and Storm are wearing the same clothing they wear in the pics and shots where they welcome Leech back to the Mansion! That, in the movie, is what many people believe to be the end! AND! Kitty is wearing the same outfit she wore when Storm comforts her outside!

Could it be that Cyclops is there too, in the movie, at the same point? Also - is that the same outfit Storm wears during the memorial? If so - that confirms its not Scott's.

I discussed this before and people dismissed it. It appears this shot is the end of the book, not the beginning like some have claimed. If so, then it would appear what you are saying is true. Even if it appears in the front (which I can not confirm it does but somoene argued that it did) the scene appears to take liberities from the "end" of the film as we have been lead to believe.

Also it is a different outfit for Cyclops, considering how well the others are based on their counterparts.

[Eros]

bishop that was dumb, anyways.

[Aiden]

I put forward that theory a couple of weeks ago. Everyone ignored it. :(

[vanillacyke]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Cyclops thread, I present to you... X3 as it should have been, in animated gif form!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3bybishop.gif

LOL! that's awsome!

[gambitfire]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Cyclops thread, I present to you... X3 as it should have been, in animated gif form!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3bybishop.gif

LMFAO I LOVE IT!!!

[The Original Bamfer]

Eh, I swear I didn't steal it from ya. I just realized it. you deserve credit too! sorry :O

[Aiden]

Nice work Bishop

[freshandclean]

Keep in mind this is the kid's book (correct?). I doubt people will be dying in the book. I wouldn't take it as confiming anything as of yet.

Would this be evidence that Professor X lives as well?

[Aiden]

Eh, I swear I didn't steal it from ya. I just realized it. you deserve credit too! sorry :OI forgive you :p:up:

[invincible mann]

full dislosure
started out believing he was going to die
i now beleve he is going to live
if i am wrong
i will eat that crow

[LastSunrise1981]

Keep in mind this is the kid's book (correct?). I doubt people will be dying in the book. I wouldn't take it as confiming anything as of yet.

Would this be evidence that Professor X lives as well?

Well they would've included Jean as well. But at this point, no one knows for sure.

Looks like we'll just have to wait till the 26th to find out. :)

[Bishop2]

I'm betting that page is from the middle of the book, rathe than the beginning or end. :)

[cyke93]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Cyclops thread, I present to you... X3 as it should have been, in animated gif form!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3bybishop.gif

hahahahahahaa

[lordofthenerds]

I discussed this before and people dismissed it. It appears this shot is the end of the book, not the beginning like some have claimed. If so, then it would appear what you are saying is true. Even if it appears in the front (which I can not confirm it does but somoene argued that it did) the scene appears to take liberities from the "end" of the film as we have been lead to believe.

Also it is a different outfit for Cyclops, considering how well the others are based on their counterparts.
Hmm...but Professer X is there too. It would suck if they both got remolecularized. :o :down

[LastSunrise1981]

Hmm...but Professer X is there too. It would suck if they both got remolecularized. :o :down

You hate demolecularized, now you're using remolecularized. :p

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm betting that page is from the middle of the book, rathe than the beginning or end. :)

The wording of the first picture hints that its the end. But who knows, you may very well be right.

[Eros]

fine the proffessor will survive, and cyclops will vanish into infinity.

[DarknessOfDeath]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/jeanscott.gif

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/X2/orig5.gif
something I made a few weeks ago. LOL... haha logan gets owned and Scott finally gets to do what he always wanted...

[gambitfire]

this would be X2 all over again, THe professor and Scott are gone through out the whole movie only to reappear again for the end. Talking about not knowing what to do with a character. Im starting to think it was best that Gambit wasn't in this movie :D

[freshandclean]

I don't think the kid's book has anything to do with the plot of the movie, per se. It might take place before the beginning of the movie. Introducing characters and such. They even included what looks to be Pyro on the school grounds. And I doubt they'd put any of the Phoenix things in it. "Jean Grey was once thought dead. But she rises out of the lake alive like the Phoenix of yore."

I wouldn't take anything from that book as a evidence of anything.

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't think the kid's book has anything to do with the plot of the movie, per se. It might take place before the beginning of the movie. Introducing characters and such. They even included what looks to be Pyro on the school grounds. And I doubt they'd put any of the Phoenix things in it. "Jean Grey was once thought dead. But she rises out of the lake alive like the Phoenix of yore."

I wouldn't take anything from that book as a evidence of anything.

I don't know. I remember when Spider-Man was about to be released there was a childrens book and it followed the plot of the movie.

Same with Batman Begins too. But at this point, no one knows and it's confusing a lot of people, including yours truly.

[cyke93]

I don't know. I remember when Spider-Man was about to be released there was a childrens book and it followed the plot of the movie.

Same with Batman Begins too. But at this point, no one knows and it's confusing a lot of people, including yours truly.

dont forget star wars

[CapBeerCino]

this would be X2 all over again, THe professor and Scott are gone through out the whole movie only to reappear again for the end. Talking about not knowing what to do with a character. Im starting to think it was best that Gambit wasn't in this movie :D

That's if we're lucky...

[ShadowBoxing]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Cyclops thread, I present to you... X3 as it should have been, in animated gif form!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3bybishop.gifOMG thats so beautiful...:O

[CapBeerCino]

OMG thats so beautiful...:O

A lot of people react to Wolverine that way :up:

[Eros]

http://www.cinecine.co.kr/gallery/2006/04/Xmen3_S9.jpg
Beast-Oh lord Logan we excidently killed cyclops.

Logan-So...like.... can we still go get that beer?

[Redd_Angel]

OMG thats so beautiful...:O


lol!!! no love for wolverine on this thread?! i should have known :)

[cyke93]

i was just thinking that a few months from now or when the dvd is for x3, whatever that someone involved with the movie will make a comment about cyclops and it'll go something like this:


"a rough draft was leaked to AICN, which actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise. the fans reaction was quick and we were hearing it from all sides, especially the cyclops fans. Now in that script, cyclops dies at the lake but it didn't have the 3rd act which shows him coming back, this was ofcourse to due to scheduling conflicts with james, who was doing superman. everywhere we went it was nothing but cyclops this and cyclops that, with this kind of response, we knew we couldn't leave fans disappointed and it worked out for the best. not only did this generate huge publicity for us and for cyclops, james schedule cleared and we were able to bring him back for several more scenes. during all of this, the fans just kept coming with cyclops questions.. we kind of got tired of it and sometimes we felt like letting the cat out of hte baf but we managed to keep tightlip and since fox enjoyed the publicity, we made sure that any images of cyclops was strictly controlled. we even cropped the visor out from on the website just for fun.. but i remember that 1st weekend x3 came out, cyclops fans cried out "redemption".. but you think they would be happy, we still get flack for getting them all riled up.. eh what can you do?"

yes i was really bored and typed all that up hehe, but yeah that would happen .. in an alternate universe perhaps..

[cyke93]

http://www.cinecine.co.kr/gallery/2006/04/Xmen3_S9.jpg
Beast-Oh lord Logan we excidently killed cyclops.

Logan-So...like.... can we still go get that beer?


Beast: ::sniff:: (turns to logan) .. AGAIN ?!

Logan: **** off !!

[DarknessOfDeath]

http://www.thexverse.com/community/showthread.php?t=8&page=53

Just wanted to let u guys know...

Simon's Q&As UPDATED

1. On the new website, when you click on mutants and you could see all the various animations of the characters. Why do they show Cyclops in the X suit but he is shooting a beam from his protective glasses rather than his visor which is literally impossible and looks a little strange?

*I have no idea.


Do you feel that you, Ratner, and the whole "x-crew" did the film justice?

*Hope so! You will tell me in a month!

I'm sure we, the fans, would be better to answer this, but was your honest opinion of what has been produced?

*I am proud of the film. As with everything I’ve ever worked on, I see the imperfections. But I think we made a fitting conclusion to this trilogy. I’m especially proud of the level of emotion and character development. All of my favorite scenes are big, emotional dialogue scenes. And I'm so incredibly proud of the performances. The actors really connected to the script, and brought our scenes to life.

[Bishop2]

I wonder if he was equally proud of Fantastic Four.

After that movie disappointed in so many ways, I have even more cause to worry what he's done with X-Men.

It's not like Mr. & Mrs. Smith or xXx: State of the Union were good movies at all, either, so really there's no reason to trust in Kinberg.

[Optic Rage]

Eros you are quickily becoming a troll...knock it off unless you fancy a ban.

[cyke93]

i am interested in this line

2. Secondly, I was just very curious Simon if you are proud of the way you were able to incorporate Cyclops into the movie considering the confines you were given?

*I am proud with what we did, given those confines. We were handed very specific parameters, and we did everything we could within those parameters. I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.


what were the confines ? make sure he dies !? hehehe .. i try to make fun but reading this response, it doesnt confirm the worse but it helps to reinforce it.

[cyke93]

Well, I’m happy to see that there’s finally something more controversial than the fate of Cyclops.

ok guys, we must be loosing our edge here.. hehehe

[DarknessOfDeath]

i am interested in this line

2. Secondly, I was just very curious Simon if you are proud of the way you were able to incorporate Cyclops into the movie considering the confines you were given?

*I am proud with what we did, given those confines. We were handed very specific parameters, and we did everything we could within those parameters. I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.


what were the confines ? make sure he dies !? hehehe .. i try to make fun but reading this response, it doesnt confirm the worse but it helps to reinforce it.


hmm I must have missed that part. lol hehe

[Bishop2]

what were the confines ? make sure he dies !?

You know, that's an interesting possibility. Perhaps someone told him to write certain characters a certain way. Perhaps one of the producers (since obviously there was no director until the 11th hour) said that Storm had to be hooked up with Logan, Cyclops had to die, Pyro had to fight Iceman, etc...

[SlimWorthington]

i am interested in this line

2. Secondly, I was just very curious Simon if you are proud of the way you were able to incorporate Cyclops into the movie considering the confines you were given?

*I am proud with what we did, given those confines. We were handed very specific parameters, and we did everything we could within those parameters. I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.

I'm betting those confines Kinberg was talking about was Jimmy's Superman schedule, not because of studio politics. And since Jimmy had more time to shoot than thought, well... things changed from the original AICN script. :)

[cyke93]

I'm betting those confines Kinberg was talking about was Jimmy's Superman schedule.

which probably made killing him that much easier to do. hehe

[Eros]

im 100 percent sure cyclops does not die in this movie, and im hundred percent sure he will play intregal part in the overall scheme of things. He just won't have the screen time to match his importance, that i am 100 percent sure of as well.

[Bishop2]

im 100 percent sure cyclops does not die in this movie, and im hundred percent sure he will play intregal part in the overall scheme of things.

The only way you could possibly be 100% of those things is if YOU are Brett Ratner.

[cyke93]

from kinberg:
Just wondering if you think an X-Men film should/could work without the two major characters from the comics: Professor X and Cyclops - the first real X-Men. Also, will Cyclops finally be given a bigger role in this film?

I do think there could be an X-Men film without X and Cyclops. I mean, there are some comics without them. It would probably have to be a spinoff, like Wolverine or the X-Kids movie. The genius of the X-Men franchise is that there are so many incredibly rich characters. As you know, there’s literally hundreds to choose from. So yes, I think there could be an X-Men movie without X and Cyclops, just like there could be a Star Wars movie without Luke and Han, or a Star Trek movie without Kirk and Spock.

he answers the first question but neglects the 2nd. if any character were given an expanded role then i do not think that would be a spoiler and would help advertise that character, much like in x2, they said how they expanded on bobby's character. so y he doesnt answer that question is .. hehe up for debate.. lol

[Eros]

Bishop, trust me cyclops will not have alot of screen time but he will play a big part. Its just so obvious it funny, you guys still dun see what i see.

[cyke93]

just for giggles hehe
kinberg:

I am excited to see what John Powell will bring to the movie though
also...without giving anything away..was Cyclops an easier character to write than other characters?....since ya must be able to get a lot of emotion out of his character this time around

*I found Cyclops fairly easy to write, but he’s a very different character than the man in X1 and X2, so there was a fair amount of reinvention involved.

reinvention = restructing of his molecules

[GreatWhiteWhale]

i am interested in this line

2. Secondly, I was just very curious Simon if you are proud of the way you were able to incorporate Cyclops into the movie considering the confines you were given?

*I am proud with what we did, given those confines. We were handed very specific parameters, and we did everything we could within those parameters. I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.


what were the confines ? make sure he dies !? hehehe .. i try to make fun but reading this response, it doesnt confirm the worse but it helps to reinforce it.

I believe he is referring to the fact that Wolverine is the showpiece of the films, this was also set up by singer, and I also believe it was a mandate for the third film to have Wolverine 'be the lead'.

They're the confines I believe Simon is referring to (likely wrong though). Scott's character can shine and Kinberg and Penn can write him how they want to, he can be a huge effect on the plot, but the film's journey is not to be seen through his eyes, the stage is to be set for the main players: Wolverine, Phoenix and Magneto.

[CrypticOne]

Who do you guys think will fight against Cyclops? I hope they put him up against a strong mutant 'cause I wanna see a good fight.

[CapBeerCino]

Who do you guys think will fight against Cyclops? I hope they put him up against a strong mutant 'cause I wanna see a good fight.

Against Jean for a brief moment :o

[CapBeerCino]

just for giggles hehe

kinberg:
*I found Cyclops fairly easy to write, but he’s a very different character than the man in X1 and X2, so there was a fair amount of reinvention involved.



reinvention = restructing of his molecules





...fairly easy to write... Have you tried spelling Demolecularization?

[conan69]

Dont know if this has been mentioned, Cant look thru the threads right now.

Its canmag and you knwo how reliable they are, but supposedly someone working on subtitles has spilled the beans on alot...
http://www.canmag.com/forums/x-men/343-x-men-last-stand-review.html

Cyclops is wormfood.

[MoiBijou]

And how Phoenix Force know what's going to happen? :confused:

Oh, yeah... he's Kinberg. :p

[invincible mann]

when kinberg says he is proud of what he achieved he knows specifically what he is talking about we dont
lets just wait and see
after all we really have no choice its out of our hands now

[CapBeerCino]

Dont know if this has been mentioned, Cant look thru the threads right now.

Its canmag and you knwo how reliable they are, but supposedly someone working on subtitles has spilled the beans on alot...
http://www.canmag.com/forums/x-men/343-x-men-last-stand-review.html

Cyclops is wormfood.

There is nothing new in there :o Sound like another guess to me.

[MoiBijou]

Anyway... it's CanMag. As CapBeerCino says, nothing new there.

[Optic Rage]

and hey even if it was true the fact that they dont show cyclops getting demolecurised and you only see a big bang has to be good thing...

[CapBeerCino]

and hey even if it was true the fact that they dont show cyclops getting demolecurised and your only see a big bang has to be good thing...

It sound like a fake anyways.

[Hugh'sMrs]

Dont know if this has been mentioned, Cant look thru the threads right now.

Its canmag and you knwo how reliable they are, but supposedly someone working on subtitles has spilled the beans on alot...
http://www.canmag.com/forums/x-men/343-x-men-last-stand-review.html

Cyclops is wormfood.

The person who posted that review is the same one who posted on Ant's messageboard claiming Brett Ratner is their dad's best friend.

http://xmenfilms.proboards54.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=thepheonixforce (http://xmenfilms.proboards54.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=thepheonixforce)
I have seen a part of the movie from an invitation
« Thread Started on Today at 3:29am
thepheonixforce (http://xmenfilms.proboards54.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=thepheonixforce)

My dad Andy was a close friend with Brett in College, They have always kept in touch. IT was him that actually brought me to X-men. If you don't belive, you may ask him in a Q&A sesion a lil b4 the film about a person named Andy Patcher and his son Calvin Ratcher.

[JokerNick]

anyone who thinks that review is legite is a complete retard, it's barely covers the 1st act of the movie, the guy just put some pics and rumors together and wrote out what he thinks happens in the 1st half hour...... I love the character deaths, doesn't give any detail either, Xavier dies at the hands of Jean, how does he die? how does Magneteo die? the rumor of mystique dieing by magneto has been around since I've been on these boards too.......

[CapBeerCino]

Shouldnt they have the same last name?

[mustanger405]

2. Secondly, I was just very curious Simon if you are proud of the way you were able to incorporate Cyclops into the movie considering the confines you were given?

*I am proud with what we did, given those confines. We were handed very specific parameters, and we did everything we could within those parameters. I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.

I was the one who posted this question along with many more to Simon. Now if you did evrything you could do within those parameters. Wouldnt you have Cyclops at least where his suit in the movie?? I mean if Simon was such a fan. Couldnt he have him put on the suit somehow?? I really dont know what to think anymore. I am still leaning towards his death just like it was in the original review which will be at the lake. I hope to god I am wrong.

[CapBeerCino]

I know Jimmy is very proud of his performance, which means a lot to me.


I bet he should be, regardless of Cyke's fate...

[vanillacyke]

ughhh regarding what kinberg said it should translate to "We were forced to screw cyclops, sorry"

[britrogue]

Lets hope and pray that that isn't the case.

[JokerNick]

I bet he should be, regardless of Cyke's fate...

do you think simon would say "Jimmy really hated his role, he told us time and time again, your screwing my character over"

of course not, he's just trying to sell the film, take everything anyone from fox says, with a grain of salt

[vanillacyke]

Ya got to have a lot a respect for Marsden for putting up with this crap with a smile on his face.

[CapBeerCino]

Hmmm... I hate to say it - but I dont think he cares (at least not half as we do)

[JokerNick]

Hmmm... I hate to say it - but I dont think he cares (at least not half as we do)

he gets a paycheck either way.....

[vanillacyke]

I don't know, I think he cares. he seems to in his interviews.

[CapBeerCino]

he gets a paycheck either way.....

Well, yeah. But also in the x-1 dvd he was like "I have some geek friends and they were like 'wow you're Cyclops'..." "Now some geeks are watching us saying the new x-men comedy" and so on...

[Kurosawa]

ughhh regarding what kinberg said it should translate to "We were forced to screw cyclops, sorry"

Yeah-it's not the writers fault. They did what the souless corporate suits at FOX told them to do. This movie was made with charts, graphs and demographics, not with any amount of inspiration, and certainly with no respect for the original comics or the characters.

It's really a slap in the face to X-Men fans.

Marsden's best bet was just to grin and bear it as far as his role in X3 goes. If he'd thrown a hissy fit over it considering his status in Hollywood, it would most likely cost him work and earn him a bad reputation. He just had to be professional and do his job no matter how much the character was getting screwed.

He's not a big enough star to demand screentime, etc like Jackman and the Halle Ego monster.

[jcykeson]

i think deep down, any character wouldn't want to be shaft down..

[Aiden]

Hmm...That response could be taken 2 ways.

1.He dies
2.He's not the center of the Phoenix Saga like he should be

[CapBeerCino]

3. Both.

[Aiden]

4.He will be in the final battle though

[CapBeerCino]

5. in nude :p

[DarknessOfDeath]

6. In ur dreams

:p

[CapBeerCino]

It was worth a try :o

[Aiden]

7.Your dreams = My reality ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

since im here...does anyone know a good James marsden site? I can't find any that are good.

[CapBeerCino]

since im here...does anyone know a good James marsden site? I can't find any that are good.

I know a good James Marsden song if that helps :up:
http://www.themedicinewheel.net/Glow1_1_.mp3

[Optic Rage]

As for James giving a crap about cyclops or what happens to him....i really think he dosent..in a few of the interviwes ive seen he dosent really know anything about him..just your basic on the surface stuff like him being stiff and boring....its a shame as halle & ian seem to know Storm & Magneto really well.

[cyke93]

i would like someone to ask this question to kinberg:

on the website, it has cyclops as field leader, does this mean, we'll get to see him actually lead in the flm. the only thing that references to him being the leader is when he goes over the mission specs in x1.

[Aiden]

He did say he would play Cyclops for free

[Aiden]

i would like someone to ask this question to kinberg:

on the website, it has cyclops as field leader, does this mean, we'll get to see him actually lead in the flm. the only thing that references to him being the leader is when he goes over the mission specs in x1.Hopefully

[CapBeerCino]

i would like someone to ask this question to kinberg:

on the website, it has cyclops as field leader, does this mean, we'll get to see him actually lead in the flm. the only thing that references to him being the leader is when he goes over the mission specs in x1.

Simon Kinsberg: "Sorry, spoiler"
:o
Been there, done that...

[cyke93]

As for James giving a crap about cyclops or what happens to him....i really think he dosent..in a few of the interviwes ive seen he dosent really know anything about him..just your basic on the surface stuff like him being stiff and boring....its a shame as halle & ian seem to know Storm & Magneto really well.

either you're a fan of cyclops or you not. we all know that cyclops is an important x-character but he's not popular as wolverine for example. his power is certaintly not the best, a whole number of x-men can kick his but. (though i think a heads up with him and wolverine would be pretty much even, as described in Factor-X in AoA). When the fox cartoons came out in 1993, it was cyclops i saw first blasting away and from then, he's always been my #1.

as far as james is concerned, im sure he cares for his character but not to the extent as we would like. i say that if you're going to play an established character in x-men that you should be an actor who is a fan, who understands the genre and gets a sense as to why people care for it so much. but james has dedication, i doubt there would be any hesitation on his part to do an x4, much like how hugh owes everything to x-men, he'd also gladly do it. its clear from x2 that james felt what we felt about cyclops being pushed off to the side. if the constraints kinsberg mentioned was about scheduling conflicts with superman then i would be really upset. its not like james IS superman, no he's still going to be the guy dumped by his fiancee. and if the superman does well, who's to say he'll make it to the sequel, y keep the ex-fiancee around ?

[DarknessOfDeath]

um I meant Pictures of James Marsden... :( I like him. I saw part of Sugar and Spice lol and he was in it. Its weird how when u watch a movie and for some reason, the actor looks familiar but u can't put a name on him or her even though you know he/she were in the X-Men movies.

[cyke93]

i think fox is really dirty in saying that this would be the last x-men film. and that all hopes for x4 depend on the box office intake from x3. have they not learned from harry potter? .. they're on their what 4-5th installment and still going strong. x-men has 40 years worth of storylines and characters to go through. they put all this pressure on the fans to go out and watch the film, spread the word, etc so they can generate as much money as possible.

how hard is it really to come up with a screen play for an x-men movie. just pick a storyline and run with it. in x1 they used the mutant registration. in x2 they were actually pretty original and included a small phoenix subplot and wolverine weapon x thing. i dont know too much about this "cure" thing for x3. all my spoilers i try to keep only to cyclops but i have a feeling that this "cure" is really the legacy virus in disguise, and they also have the dark phoenix subplot. really i can write up an x4 treatment, which background plot shall i use? what villian? theres too many choose, its like a kid in a candy store.

[Aiden]

Simon Kinsberg: "Sorry, spoiler"
:o
Been there, done that...Got the t-shirt

[cyke93]

did anyone ask any questions about havok

[DarknessOfDeath]

no...

but does anyone have decent pictures of James Marsden. I need em to make an avvy. Im gonna do a set of em.

[cyke93]

just do an image search on google

[DarknessOfDeath]

I did...they're not high res and most of them aren't of James...

[The Batman]

technically, the x-men dont have 40 years worth of stories to go through....

from 1970-1975, it was reprints of old issues../

[Tony Stark]

technically, the x-men dont have 40 years worth of stories to go through....

from 1970-1975, it was reprints of old issues../

Yep, they mentioned something about that on the X2 DVD, they said because of how they did their sales figures, they thought the books were in a big decline, so they cancelled the book, but then they found out that their sales were actually going up, but they no longer had a team working on the books, so they ran reprints that whole time.

[Hugh'sMrs]

5. in nude :p

That could explain why he doesn't wear his uniform in the film. ;)

This site has the best Marsden gallery I've ever seen.

http://james-marsden.com/

[taintedFB]

There are still enough story arcs for 6-9 movies!

Personally, though, I think they should stop at 6, and do spinoffs like

X-Men: X-Factor - With Havok, Polaris, Banshee, Val Harper, maybe incorporate SHIELD, etc...

X-Men: X-Force - With Cable, Domino, and others...

X-Men: Generation X: With Emma Frost as head mistress of the school including Jubilee, Husk, and others...

Wolverine: His own series...

As for the next main trilogy: Cyclops, Jean (if alive), Iceman, Beast, Angel, Storm, Rogue, Kitty, Colossus, and Gambit. Villains can be Sinister, Apocalypse, Hellfire Club, Sentinels, Leagacy Virus, etc...

[gambitfire]

those spinoffs wouldn't take off though unless you had key x-men favorite characters in them.

[Aiden]

They'd most likely flop IMO

[DarknessOfDeath]

That could explain why he doesn't wear his uniform in the film. ;)

This site has the best Marsden gallery I've ever seen.

http://james-marsden.com/ (http://james-marsden.com/)


that link doesn't work :(

[taintedFB]

Maybe they could introduce characters from the spin-offs in the next trilogy. OR just have CYCLOPS in all the spin-offs!

Oh well, it was just a thought...back to Scott in X3.

DoD, I know, it's not working for me either.

[Hugh'sMrs]

that link doesn't work :(

The site is sporadic for some unknown reason. Try again another time because eventually it will work. The gallery is very extensive.

[The Batman]

Someone's gotta ask kinberg or penn what the deal is on the logan/jean relationship in X3. Bad enough they're probably gonna kill off cyclops, but hooking logan and jean up is pissing all over his demolecularized ashes

[DarknessOfDeath]

:down

[The Batman]

hey, i know you're a logan/jean shipper, but its just a slap in the face, especially with the storyline taking elements of the dark phoenix saga. Logan and Jean just arent meant to be.

[DarknessOfDeath]

hey now... Its not just the Jean and Logan relationship I am into... I love both her relationships with Scott and Logan equally just like I love chocolate milk and white milk equally. I understand what you mean but I don't think its gonna go that far. the way I see it, Its Phoenix, not Jean controlling Logan into ... having ahem with her. Thats not Jean even though ...sadly it is her. I'm not sure I want to get into the whole "difference" between the two relationships... like i said, Im not just a Jean/Logan shipper or a Jean/Scott shipper. I love them both equally and I do side with Jean's relationship to Scott b/c I just watched the cartoon a few hours ago. The Dark Phoenix episode and I thought it was interesting and I noticed that Jean does tell Wolverine to kill her... but he doesn't and she goes Phoenix on him and kicks his butt..haha..

[The Batman]

Oh, ok....

Wait....since when are logan and jean gonna....well, you know?

[taintedFB]

They're not. I think you're reading too much into that. They kiss and make out in the infirmiry before she throws him across the room...schizo, remember. It won't go beyond that.

[The Batman]

oh, ok. I was about to get really pissed for a minute...

[Maze]

Anyways , i don't think Fox is that stupid , to not know that Logan will always work better as the mad maxian guy who never get the girl.

[JokerNick]

Anyways , i don't think Fox is that stupid , to not know that Logan will sell always more as the lonely guy who never get the girl.

that would be the biggest mistake, he's a loner, and always should be, imagine how bad a movie would be if he actually married Jean......... kssy kissy logan

[Maze]

that would be the biggest mistake, he's a loner, and always should be, imagine how bad a movie would be if he actually married Jean......... kssy kissy logan
Hey , you will not convince me , i agree obviously ;) ( my tone was not clear this time either? :o :D ;) )

[JokerNick]

Hey , you will not convince me , i agree obviously ;) ( my tone was not clear this time either? :o :D ;) )

I was agreeing with ya......... I don't always argue, atleast I hope that's not what people think.......

[JokerNick]

They're not. I think you're reading too much into that. They kiss and make out in the infirmiry before she throws him across the room...schizo, remember. It won't go beyond that.

reminds me of my ex

[DarknessOfDeath]

look... Cyclops has always been my fave when I saw him in the cartoon when i was a kid and he still is. I didn't care much about Jean but I thought Wolverine was badass. Now as seeing how X-Men and X2 goes, Jean is my fave X-Woman and since she's grown on me, I've come to respect her relationship with Scott more than her relationship with Logan.

Batman, have u seen the Showest footage? if not, I have it if u want it. Jean and Logan don't...do it.. lol. Its the Phoenix who wants to um do it with him but he rejects her in a way that he knows Jean and Scott are meant to be and thats why he backs off and tells her "Jean...this isn't you." "it is me..." and she tries to kiss him again... but he backs away. "whoa...maybe u ought to take it easy. The professor said you might be...different." okay Im not gonna type out the entire scene. but really I find the scene DARK and CREEPY yet intriguing...it really shows Jean's darkside... see I feel Jean/Logan's relationship is dark, wild but it has a fiery passion element to it that her relationship with Scott doesn't have.

I read somewhere, before Jean became Phoenix, she did have a wild side to her and since she met Logan, she became attracted to him because of his wildness and badass...charms. :p I think whenever I watch their scenes together in x1 and x2, Jean brings out the good guy in Logan and same goes with Rogue. and thats a good thing I guess...I think it makes you understand all three of them more as you go deeper into the relationships.

I like Rogue/Logan relationship as well. Rogue looks up to him as a father figure she never had and he even promises to look after her. I feel touched by their scene inside the train and I feel sorry for Rogue... :(

Back to Scott and Jean... their relationship is the opposite of what Jean/Logan's relationship is... its their connection and devotion that the two share. Their love is innocent yet sweet but at the same time... it can be lost and heartbreaking (Scott loses Jean quite a lot in the comics from what I hear...). Its hard to accept someone you love and who has always been there when you needed them is dead. Then suddenly they come back to life but not as themselves and its sad...its a tragedy when the woman you love so much and care deeply for tries to KILL YOU. :( But in the end, its your love and devotion that ultimately brings her back to her senses. Scott does that. Thats his job. He's the only one who can truely bring Jean back to the good side. If Logan can't (as he does try in X3) Scott can. He loves Jean even when she's Phoenix or not, he can save her from becoming a danger to herself and those around her.

... LOL -rubs his fingers- ... erm... yeah.

and I try to explain my points further. ...

[The Batman]

I hope that's how it plays out as well, but...i dunno. even if kinberg and penn didnt want them to hook up, it couldve been fox's idea.

[Kurosawa]

technically, the x-men dont have 40 years worth of stories to go through....

from 1970-1975, it was reprints of old issues../

Yep. It was reprints when i started collecting it with issue #82.

They'd never give a team 10+ years to get popular nowadays. It just shows how much the business has changed.

[Maze]

I was agreeing with ya......... I don't always argue, atleast I hope that's not what people think.......
Ok sorry :)

and no that's not the image i have from you

you seem especially a passionate guy :)

ps: personnaly , i would not pay attention to what people think of me too often , but that's me ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

Ok sorry :)

and no that's not the image i have from you

you seem especially a passionate guy :)

ps: personnaly , i would not pay attention to what people think of me too often , but that's me ;)

Good point there maze...

whats up?

damn my fingers do hurt. I should rest :p

[JokerNick]

Ok sorry :)

and no that's not the image i have from you

you seem especially a passionate guy :)

ps: personnaly , i would not pay attention to what people think of me too often , but that's me ;)

thanks

I learned a long time ago to just be yourself, hold yourself to your own standards and no ones elses.......

[Hugh'sMrs]

I like Rogue/Logan relationship as well. Rogue looks up to him as a father figure she never had and he even promises to look after her. I feel touched by their scene inside the train and I feel sorry for Rogue... :(


The father she never had? :confused: Looks like she had a dad in X1 so I don't know where you came up with that idea. It's been established that she has a crush on Wolverine and girls don't look at guys they have crushes on as father figures. Sex objects ---- yes. Substitue dads ----- no way. :p

[taintedFB]

OKay....back to Scott Summers....

[DarknessOfDeath]

The father she never had? :confused: Looks like she had a dad in X1 so I don't know where you came up with that idea. It's been established that she has a crush on Wolverine and girls don't look at guys they have crushes on as father figures. Sex objects ---- yes. Substitue dads ----- no way. :p

I meant in terms of them both being a mutant you know...feeling comfortable around others her own age who are also gifted... but she looks up to him as a hero. He's her hero because he does try on several occasions to save her from Magneto. and I DO NOT look at their relationship as them being an ITEM. its wrong. Sure I can understand she has a crush on him but come on... I don't see wolverine fooling around with a 17 year old...thats wrong and thats not logan.

[Hugh'sMrs]

Wolverine has repeatedly gone after other men's women, he's not exactly the poster child for morality. If he was interested in Rogue as more than just her hero (and I'm not saying he is) I doubt he gives a you-know-what about legalities. The guy has killed people, do you think he'd be worried about checking a chick's ID?

[DarknessOfDeath]

well...he saved her near the end and he ended up in a coma who knows how long... okay ...this convo isn't going anywhere so lets leave it at that. I get what ur saying but -shrugs- lets not go there. thanx.

Cyclops Rules!! Cykes Will Save Jean in the end!!! ... http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/th__spazmonkey__by_TearsOfMySins.gif (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/?action=view&current=_spazmonkey__by_TearsOfMySins.gif)

[cyke93]

after readin the last 2 pages.. its depressing.. lives or dies, cyke will get screwed no matter what and in each movie it just gets worst.

[vanillacyke]

after readin the last 2 pages.. its depressing.. lives or dies, cyke will get screwed no matter what and in each movie it just gets worst.

I started laughing when I read this cause it's true. I dread to see what will happen to him in X4.

[cyke93]

well if fox has their way.. we wont make it to x4

[lordofthenerds]

well if fox has their way.. we wont make it to x4
Why would they come up with the idea that the X-Men movies make up a trilogy anyway? Its stupid. :down

[Maze]

Why would they come up with the idea that the X-Men movies make up a trilogy anyway? Its stupid. :down
Stupid?

no, it's marketable:o

"soon in your favorite mall The Xmen trilogy pack!:eek: :up:"..... :rolleyes:

[TromaFreak64]

well if fox has their way.. we wont make it to x4

X-men makes them a lot of money....I don't think they want to avoid X4...if X3 makes money then there is X4....like anything in life

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Yeah. Since The Original Star Wars, Alien Trilogy, Godfather, Back to the Future (pre-resurrection) and Indiana Jones set the mark most movies have tried to tell their stories in threes.

Its funny, because those franchises that have four and five movies (Superman being a notable exception) usually have a branching story that ends at the end of the third film, and then the fourth film is some kind of abstract continuation of the story done purely for moneymaking, rather than narrative reasons.

I think the makers of X-Men are smarter and while The Last Stand finishes the story, they're allowing plenty of breathing room for sequels so any possible future sequels dont seem so forced.

Also, X-Men is a new type of franchise, there havent been to many franchises with several spinoffs and a core movie series.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

At this time I'd also like to point out that the Cyclops from the comics is immune to both his own power, and his brother Alex's.

[Genosha]

Yeah, I think its just marketing speak, so they can put all the X-Men movies in a nice little DVD box at the end of this year.

I still believe they are going for a Star Wars/Star Trek feel for this series and have each movie sort of be like an episode.

Remember Star Trek V Final Frontier and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

I think The Last Stand will eventually just be the title of this particular episode and the X-Men films will continue with different titles later on.

I would love for them to go back and rename X1 and give it an episode title.

And since this is still Cyclops' thread, I just wanted to say that no matter what happens to him in X3, I'm proud of James Marsden's work in this series.

[TromaFreak64]

Not much movemen today. Well cheer up. It will only be a little bit longer until we know everything.

[Compi716]

And since this is still Cyclops' thread, I just wanted to say that no matter what happens to him in X3, I'm proud of James Marsden's work in this series.
I'm with you, man.

[Daniella]

So am I... James has done great things, even without having much time to play the character... :up:

Dany

[cyke93]

X-men makes them a lot of money....I don't think they want to avoid X4...if X3 makes money then there is X4....like anything in life

i said this before.. fox wants to hype this up as the last movie so that more people will watch it because they wil lthink its the last movie .. when all they really want is that extra attention of being the "last one" to drive box office takes. .. so its win win for them .. because we all know they're going to make a lot of money from x3.. the question is how much more can they make

[Hulkster]

I salute James Marsden, because he's done a good job portraying Cyclops, my favorite X-man.:cyclops:

[DarknessOfDeath]

I agree... He's a funny guy. :D okay...wth is going on outside my window? Im hearing strange animal noises... what animal comes out at night? man geez. scared the crap out of me... :eek:

[Hulkster]

If you're hearing a strange animal noises that scared the crap out of you then you should call 911.:) :up: