Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[MoiBijou]

Is he wearing his uniform? I can't see it... my monitor is too dark today.

[the a1ant]

I think he's wearing that same darn jacket, that he wears on Alkali

[Wolverini]

Looks like the jacket ... cant say for sure.

All I can say is ... are you guys so certain he will die? ;) Inside sources said Jimmy had to reshoot some action scenes outside Alkali Lake ... sources can be wrong though

[Redd_Angel]

aaaggghh.. they just keep on teasing us! dead or alive? on second thought, i'd rather be surprised in the movie. :)

[lordofthenerds]

Looks like the jacket ... cant say for sure.

All I can say is ... are you guys so certain he will die? ;) Inside sources said Jimmy had to reshoot some action scenes outside Alkali Lake ... sources can be wrong though
Who do you work for and where did they say he was outside Alkali Lake? Because we know he has a scene at the mansion.

[LastSunrise1981]

Who do you work for and where did they say he was outside Alkali Lake? Because we know he has a scene at the mansion.

It was reported a while back that James had to reshoot some scenes. They didn't say which ones obviously, but it has been confirmed that reshoots were done and will be in the film.

[Bastila]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1667/dsc016854tf.jpg

We need a high resolution of that cyclops poster!

Wow Scott does have a poster by himself yes i would love that one in my room.

[Redd_Angel]

Depressed Leader makes more sense the production notes sort of talk about the depressed part if you've read um

:up: or perhaps dejected/grieving x leader
just coz depressed imo sounds like he needs some psychological help :)

[vanillacyke]

Looks like the jacket ... cant say for sure.

All I can say is ... are you guys so certain he will die? ;) Inside sources said Jimmy had to reshoot some action scenes outside Alkali Lake ... sources can be wrong though

See I don't get that. His hair is so long now it would'nt make any sense.

[WorthyStevens]

Looks like the jacket ... cant say for sure.

All I can say is ... are you guys so certain he will die? ;) Inside sources said Jimmy had to reshoot some action scenes outside Alkali Lake ... sources can be wrong though

Actually, it's the other way around for me. ;)

[cyke93]

Wow Scott does have a poster by himself yes i would love that one in my room.

same here, ill allow a poster of a guy hanging on my wall .. as long as its cyke :P

[WorthyStevens]

same here, ill allow a poster of a guy hanging on my wall .. as long as its cyke :P

Me too... well, Angel too. :D

[psylockolussus]

Wow that's cool Cyclops also have a poster. They should put a wallpaper like that in the official site.

[LEX]

Looks like the jacket ... cant say for sure.

All I can say is ... are you guys so certain he will die? ;) Inside sources said Jimmy had to reshoot some action scenes outside Alkali Lake ... sources can be wrong though
Your post ain't a good sign, seeing that you've seen some footages. Oh, noes! I hope it's not what I'm thinking. :o

[WorthyStevens]

Leader/Widower

Leader/Loner

[GL1]

Leader/Loner

I like it... does the official site have some place to request such things?


Just to get a feel... does anyone have a problem with Cyclops not putting the Uniform on throughout the movie? Would that be okay?

[taintedFB]

Honestly, I don't care too much about wearing the uniform. I think its right that he should leave the team after losing Jean and its true to the comics. As long as he lives and returns to save or stop Jean, I don't care what he's wearing. Also, as long as he gets to fight, I'm happy.

How cool would it be if he didn't waear the visor and unleashed raw energy at the brotherhood or Magneto, or Sentinels or Phoenix even.

I think we worry about the uniform only becacuse of some people's suspicions of his death. But as long as he lives and is important, wardrobe isn't an issue for me..

[WorthyStevens]

I like it... does the official site have some place to request such things?


Just to get a feel... does anyone have a problem with Cyclops not putting the Uniform on throughout the movie? Would that be okay?

As long as he's there at the end, alive, I'm fine.

[_BB_]

Honestly, I don't care too much about wearing the uniform. I think its right that he should leave the team after losing Jean and its true to the comics. As long as he lives and returns to save or stop Jean, I don't care what he's wearing. Also, as long as he gets to fight, I'm happy.

How cool would it be if he didn't waear the visor and unleashed raw energy at the brotherhood or Magneto, or Sentinels or Phoenix even.

I think we worry about the uniform only becacuse of some people's suspicions of his death. But as long as he lives and is important, wardrobe isn't an issue for me..

If he did that and wiped out half the army, it would make my day :D

[WorthyStevens]

If he did that and wiped out half the army, it would make my day :D

Doing that while riding on Angel's wings would make my day even more. :D

[Balthus Dire]

aaaggghh.. they just keep on teasing us! dead or alive? on second thought, i'd rather be surprised in the movie. :)

He dies, guys! Accept it!

[Aiden]

He might not die! Accept it!

[JustABill]

Lmfao. I don't know why but I just imagined this in my head when reading Worthy's post...

Angel: Hop on! I'll give you a ride.
Cyclops: No thanks, I'm uh...straight...yeah.
Angel: No! On my wings!
Cyclops: Right, cause the whole N*Sync thing that was Jean's CD?
Angel: -looks at Rogue- What the hell is he rambling about?
Rogue: No clue. Let's just go...

[DarknessOfDeath]

you can blame Pyro for that.... eek

[WorthyStevens]

Lmfao. I don't know why but I just imagined this in my head when reading Worthy's post...

Angel: Hop on! I'll give you a ride.
Cyclops: No thanks, I'm uh...straight...yeah.
Angel: No! On my wings!
Cyclops: Right, cause the whole N*Sync thing that was Jean's CD?
Angel: -looks at Rogue- What the hell is he rambling about?
Rogue: No clue. Let's just go...

Heh, no one will ever forget the N'Sync controversy. :p

[GL1]

There are so many different cool ways for Cyke to show up to the last stand with an opening optic blast it's just not funny... most of the greatest ones involve Cyke opening up his eyes visorless... though, a perfectly timed sniper should could be awesome...

I can see two things...

1) The X-Men are facing a decending wave sentinels. Everyone's ready for a big fight. It's not going to be pretty. You see footsteps walking up behind them. Kitty turns to see who it is and gasps. The figure, in Scott's jacket, now dirty, walks through her. Wolverine turns to look over his shoulder, raises an eyebrow. Storm whispers towards Logan. "You have a plan?" Scott grunts. "Let me do my job." Cyclops takes off his visor. Most of the kids cover their eyes. Two seconds of red flashing later, Cyclops replaces his glasses. There is decimation and destruction and sentinel body parts in front of him. "You guys go for Magneto." Scott turns and starts heading towards the next battle. "I'm going to get my woman."

2) Pressed about by many a morlock, multiple man and other angry mutant. Psylocke giving Colossus a headache, Callisto pining Storm up against a wall and blob holding wolverine down... Suddenly a red beam bursts from the sidelines, it strikes Psylocke knocking her sidewards, clearing a bath for the beam to strike Colossus' chest, it reflects, striking Blob in the head, KOing him, but reflecting to knock Callisto away from Storm. They look up. Scott stands atop a bombed out warehouse. He then disappears, heading for either a better sniping position or for Jean Grey.

[cyke93]

There are so many different cool ways for Cyke to show up to the last stand with an opening optic blast it's just not funny... most of the greatest ones involve Cyke opening up his eyes visorless... though, a perfectly timed sniper should could be awesome...

I can see two things...

1) The X-Men are facing a decending wave sentinels. Everyone's ready for a big fight. It's not going to be pretty. You see footsteps walking up behind them. Kitty turns to see who it is and gasps. The figure, in Scott's jacket, now dirty, walks through her. Wolverine turns to look over his shoulder, raises an eyebrow. Storm whispers towards Logan. "You have a plan?" Scott grunts. "Let me do my job." Cyclops takes off his visor. Most of the kids cover their eyes. Two seconds of red flashing later, Cyclops replaces his glasses. There is decimation and destruction and sentinel body parts in front of him. "You guys go for Magneto." Scott turns and starts heading towards the next battle. "I'm going to get my woman."

2) Pressed about by many a morlock, multiple man and other angry mutant. Psylocke giving Colossus a headache, Callisto pining Storm up against a wall and blob holding wolverine down... Suddenly a red beam bursts from the sidelines, it strikes Psylocke knocking her sidewards, clearing a bath for the beam to strike Colossus' chest, it reflects, striking Blob in the head, KOing him, but reflecting to knock Callisto away from Storm. They look up. Scott stands atop a bombed out warehouse. He then disappears, heading for either a better sniping position or for Jean Grey.


i like the first idea. all the x-men are cornered in a circle (say except storm because i think she can handle herself pretty good against sentinals) and waves of sentinal descend on them and out of no where cyclops come outs and blasts all of them away. the other x-men follow suit but cyclops is by far doing the most damage.

[Bishop2]

This just proves that the fans are really the ones who should be writing this movie.

[WorthyStevens]

This just proves that the fans are really the ones who should be writing this movie.

We do...

[Bishop2]

We do...

We don't write the movie that ends up on the screen. We write our pretend version that has awesomeness.

[Kurosawa]

And what ends up on the screen reeks of suckiness.

[WorthyStevens]

And what ends up on the screen reeks of suckiness.

Yet you still post on here.

[Bishop2]

I for one hope against hope that it won't suck. I know the evidence is very strongly against the movie being worth much, but I still hope to be pleasantly surprised.

[berzerko89]

I for one hope against hope that it won't suck. I know the evidence is very strongly against the movie being worth much, but I still hope to be pleasantly surprised.

:) :up: think positive!

[TromaFreak64]

I for one hope against hope that it won't suck. I know the evidence is very strongly against the movie being worth much, but I still hope to be pleasantly surprised.

You guys are in the minority most of us don't see this so called negative evidence....

[Bishop2]

You guys are in the minority most of us don't see this so called negative evidence....

In the minority here, maybe. Been to CHUD or AICN or any of the other movie fan sites? Negativity is overwhelming.

[WorthyStevens]

In the minority here, maybe. Been to CHUD or AICN or any of the other movie fan sites? Negativity is overwhelming.

I wouldn't count the guys at AICN. Seriously, they must liking eating Harry's **** for breakfast everyday.

[Bishop2]

I wouldn't count the guys at AICN. Seriously, they must liking eating Harry's **** for breakfast everyday.

Well... point. AICN sucks. :p

[Bishop2]

Reasons why X-Men: The Last Stand ain't looking so hot to me:

1) When a movie is made based on "making the release date" rather than "Making the right movie," it's never a good sign. The first two X-Men movies did not make this mistake. They had a script completed before the cameras rolled. This one, on the other hand, had an unfinished script AND started building sets before the script was even halfway done. I can think of two other movies that did this: Alien 3 and Jurassic Park III. Both are terrible sequels, with JP3 being one of the worst I've ever endured in all my days. This does not bode well. Add to that the fact that the director was chosen at the last possible second before filming, meaning that the movie had no one to give it a central direction and focus, and well... that also does not bode well. This ALONE would be reason to expect crap from this movie in my eyes, because never in all my days have I seen a rush-job "We need a summer movie so you've got to get this films, ALL OTHER PRIORITIES ARE SECONDARY" film turn out to be GOOD. Why wouldn't Fox just wait for Bryan Singer to finish Superman, since he was the creative force behind the first two films and he obviously stated that he was still very interested in doing it after he completed that project? Oh, right. Because Fox felt betrayed and they wanted to strike back. Always good to make a movie based on your anger.

2) This is a biggie: In any movie where Jean Grey comes back from the dead, OR any story where Jean Grey goes over to the dark side - let alone does BOTH - Cyclops absolutely must be a central, focal character. Anything else will not be satisfying. You can have him share the limelight with a couple of other team members, certainly. But he needs to be strongly highlighted. We need to deal with his angst at seeing Jean go bad. We need to see him overcome that and show off his team leadership skills even in his darkest hour. We need. It's the clear path to the best dramatic storytelling. Anything else is a letdown. As with point number one... this alone would be enough for me to expect very little from this film. But of course there's more.

3) OMFG, TOO MANY MUTANTS. With a cast of characters THIS HUGE (and hell, that's just counting the BRAND NEW characters, which include: Angel! Beast! Multiple Man! Stacy-X! Psylocke! Juggernaut! Omega Red! Callisto! Moira MacTaggart! Bolivar Trask! Arclight! Leech!), there's really no way you can do them all justice outside of a five-hour movie. Now, maybe some of these people will be cameos similar to Jubilee in the last couple of films, or Colossus in X2, I don't know. Maybe they won't do anything except walk by in the background and we'll never notice. Maybe they'll never have a line of dialogue - I don't know. I just know that history shows us that films CRAMMED FULL of characters just for the sake "Hey, it's so-and-so!" don't really come off that well. See also: Mortal Kombat Annihilation, Batman & Robin.

4) The entire Rogue/Bobby/Kitty subplot. A love triangle with teenagers. I can't think of a single subplot that I could possibly care LESS about than "teen romance drama." I'm bored just thinking about it. Why not have Rogue's storyline focus on her interest in the "cure"? Why not make Bobby focus on trying to prove himself as a worthy member of the team? I could write better material for these characters. When someone sitting at home can say that, it's not a good sign. Maybe the teen drama will be well-handled for what it is, but so what? By definition "teen drama" isn't something I put up with.

5) It may seem like nitpicking to some people, but I still gotta say... THREE Kitties in THREE movies? That's a casting ****-up of "fire your casting director the second she even suggests it" proportions. I'm really tired of this crap, especially since I'm so fond of the comic character. Any time there's an actor change in any character in any franchise, I'm pissed - it's always a bad move for continuity, and continuity is law. The first Kitty actress looked the most like the comic counterpart and had enough acting background to be at least on the level of ****ing Shawn Ashmore, should've stuck with Sumela Kay all the way to now.

6) This one's an old complaint. It was a complaint I had with X2, and I have it again now. See, after I walked out of the first X-Men, I was psyched. I loved the movie, and I couldn't wait to see future movies focusing on different team members. Maybe X-Men 2 would focus on Storm and Cyclops, or on Iceman and Pyro, who knows? Instead we got... another movie focusing on Wolverine. And I was annoyed. You have so many great characters, and you took so much care in the first movie to assemble a killer cast to play them. And you waste them once again. By all indications, they've pulled this same stunt once again, and I'm still annoyed by it. It's idiotic. There's no excuse.

7) Why is this the last movie in the series? Oh, right. Because Fox had such a nightmare getting this one done OMFG ASAP!!! that they never want to suffer through it again (a stressful situation entirely of their own stupid creation), and they're so blind to the fact that there are so many characters in the X-Men universe that you could keep on making these movies into INFINITY. The next movie wouldn't have to bring back ****ers like Storm and Wolverine if the actors didn't want to return any more - you could spend all the focus time you've wasted on Logan on some other characters at long, long last. Introduce new ones, like Havok or Gambit. You could keep making X-Men movies forever. The stories are endless, and unlike most superhero franchises, you don't have to worry about replacing any actors because there are so many heroes to choose from. This complaint doesn't really reflect on this movie, mind you, aside from the fact that it's supposed to be the "last" one. It just reflects on their deep corporate stupidity.

That having been said... the footage so far looks nice. There are some seriously BIG effects, which is something the first two kind of lacked - I mean, there was nothing on the scale of ripping down the Golden Gate bridge in those first couple of movies. Ian McKellan is always cool, no matter what he says. It looks like Brett Ratner has kept the look and "feel" of the first two films intact. And the "cure" storyline in the comics was pretty good. Which fairly well sums up all the good points I can think of, but it's not without its merits obviously.

[Storm22]

Worthy, I think it's time to whip out the list!

[DarknessOfDeath]

Or...time to whip out the claws...I agree.

[TromaFreak64]

Wow most of this information isn't true, but it's going to take so long to go through and refute most these statements....

[Bishop2]

Wow most of this information isn't true, but it's going to take so long to go through and refute most these statements....

1) You can't refute statements that are my personal opinions. These things bother me. They probably don't bother you.

2) Everything I said is also true.

[TromaFreak64]

Reasons why X-Men: The Last Stand ain't looking so hot to me:

1) When a movie is made based on "making the release date" rather than "Making the right movie," it's never a good sign. The first two X-Men movies did not make this mistake. They had a script completed before the cameras rolled. This one, on the other hand, had an unfinished script AND started building sets before the script was even halfway done. I can think of two other movies that did this: Alien 3 and Jurassic Park III. Both are terrible sequels, with JP3 being one of the worst I've ever endured in all my days. This does not bode well. Add to that the fact that the director was chosen at the last possible second before filming, meaning that the movie had no one to give it a central direction and focus, and well... that also does not bode well. This ALONE would be reason to expect crap from this movie in my eyes, because never in all my days have I seen a rush-job "We need a summer movie so you've got to get this films, ALL OTHER PRIORITIES ARE SECONDARY" film turn out to be GOOD. Why wouldn't Fox just wait for Bryan Singer to finish Superman, since he was the creative force behind the first two films and he obviously stated that he was still very interested in doing it after he completed that project? Oh, right. Because Fox felt betrayed and they wanted to strike back. Always good to make a movie based on your anger.

I don't know if you watched or read anything about the making of X1 and X2 but the situation was similar if not exactly the same. X1 entered with a script still heavily under re-write and again worked right to the last minute to finish the film. The same was true with X2, which had a script that was still changing while filming as evident through the X2 book and the "blind" ending that was changed.

2) This is a biggie: In any movie where Jean Grey comes back from the dead, OR any story where Jean Grey goes over to the dark side - let alone does BOTH - Cyclops absolutely must be a central, focal character. Anything else will not be satisfying. You can have him share the limelight with a couple of other team members, certainly. But he needs to be strongly highlighted. We need to deal with his angst at seeing Jean go bad. We need to see him overcome that and show off his team leadership skills even in his darkest hour. We need. It's the clear path to the best dramatic storytelling. Anything else is a letdown. As with point number one... this alone would be enough for me to expect very little from this film. But of course there's more.

Well although Cyclops was a central character in the saga, we don't really know if any of these things do or do not happen. Since we don't really know the quality of his character's role, I can't argue with you here, but I also don't think you have any grounds to make such claims for the same reason.

3) OMFG, TOO MANY MUTANTS. With a cast of characters THIS HUGE (and hell, that's just counting the BRAND NEW characters, which include: Angel! Beast! Multiple Man! Stacy-X! Psylocke! Juggernaut! Omega Red! Callisto! Moira MacTaggart! Bolivar Trask! Arclight! Leech!), there's really no way you can do them all justice outside of a five-hour movie. Now, maybe some of these people will be cameos similar to Jubilee in the last couple of films, or Colossus in X2, I don't know. Maybe they won't do anything except walk by in the background and we'll never notice. Maybe they'll never have a line of dialogue - I don't know. I just know that history shows us that films CRAMMED FULL of characters just for the sake "Hey, it's so-and-so!" don't really come off that well. See also: Mortal Kombat Annihilation, Batman & Robin.

First Stacy-X and Omega Red are not in this film. Second I don't really go to an X-Men movie to sit there and watch the character development of Bolviar Trask...I mean it's great he has a role, and it's something to look forward to, but it should be just that A ROLE. We didn't sit around and develop hole comics on him, or even a significant percentage of time....especially not during the characters first appearence. The film should treat them in the same fashion. I mean look at the orgin of Wolverine or Storm...or any of those characters, typically a character needs to get popular before we go back and address such things as their background, and when they are a minor role they don't need to do full arc development.

4) The entire Rogue/Bobby/Kitty subplot. A love triangle with teenagers. I can't think of a single subplot that I could possibly care LESS about than "teen romance drama." I'm bored just thinking about it. Why not have Rogue's storyline focus on her interest in the "cure"? Why not make Bobby focus on trying to prove himself as a worthy member of the team? I could write better material for these characters. When someone sitting at home can say that, it's not a good sign. Maybe the teen drama will be well-handled for what it is, but so what? By definition "teen drama" isn't something I put up with.

This is an opinion. I for one am interested in the concept of how Rouge's mutant power impacts the people around her, and if it could truly cause someone who has feelings for her to not love her. The story has been done in the comics and I feel it's central to this film. Your failure to be able to understand the relationship between her focus on the cure and the love triangle....well that is saying a lot about you.

5) It may seem like nitpicking to some people, but I still gotta say... THREE Kitties in THREE movies? That's a casting ****-up of "fire your casting director the second she even suggests it" proportions. I'm really tired of this crap, especially since I'm so fond of the comic character. Any time there's an actor change in any character in any franchise, I'm pissed - it's always a bad move for continuity, and continuity is law. The first Kitty actress looked the most like the comic counterpart and had enough acting background to be at least on the level of ****ing Shawn Ashmore, should've stuck with Sumela Kay all the way to now.

Although it hurts continuity I would prefer a strong actor versus 30 minutes of a poor one. So it's your opinion that continuity is more important than good acting. The current Kitty, professional, seems to be on the best part. Go see Hard Candy it'll make you a believer.

6) This one's an old complaint. It was a complaint I had with X2, and I have it again now. See, after I walked out of the first X-Men, I was psyched. I loved the movie, and I couldn't wait to see future movies focusing on different team members. Maybe X-Men 2 would focus on Storm and Cyclops, or on Iceman and Pyro, who knows? Instead we got... another movie focusing on Wolverine. And I was annoyed. You have so many great characters, and you took so much care in the first movie to assemble a killer cast to play them. And you waste them once again. By all indications, they've pulled this same stunt once again, and I'm still annoyed by it. It's idiotic. There's no excuse.

The movie focused on Wolverine, this is true, but it focused on Jean Grey a lot as well. Even Magneto. In fact here is a challenge for you, go back and clock the total running times of those three characters, along with some of the other important characters, and see how little their onscreen appearences differ. But you can still be entitled to your opinion it was too wolverine-centric even if he is on screen only a minute or two more than some other characters, since its arguable the plot revolved around him, but the plot revolved around a lot of other characters and events as well.

7) Why is this the last movie in the series? Oh, right. Because Fox had such a nightmare getting this one done OMFG ASAP!!! that they never want to suffer through it again (a stressful situation entirely of their own stupid creation), and they're so blind to the fact that there are so many characters in the X-Men universe that you could keep on making these movies into INFINITY. The next movie wouldn't have to bring back ****ers like Storm and Wolverine if the actors didn't want to return any more - you could spend all the focus time you've wasted on Logan on some other characters at long, long last. Introduce new ones, like Havok or Gambit. You could keep making X-Men movies forever. The stories are endless, and unlike most superhero franchises, you don't have to worry about replacing any actors because there are so many heroes to choose from. This complaint doesn't really reflect on this movie, mind you, aside from the fact that it's supposed to be the "last" one. It just reflects on their deep corporate stupidity.

Well I don't know where you see this is the last one. They seem to be pretty clear the LAST ONE, is mostly a marketing tool, as the producers have stated their intention are to continue the series, just allow them to change characters and story arcs. This essentially completes these arcs and this trilogy. They also stated they have interest in Days of Future Past and some other storylines...I'm curious do you just not read any of the interviews here at SHH or Xverse or Comics2Film? Regardless though evey film is the last one in the series until it makes enough money to warrent a sequel. This time is no different than X2...if X2 had failed we wouldn't be seeing X3. If X3 fails = no X4 any time soon. That is just how it goes. Fox isn't going to stop making something because it's HARD or DIFFICULT to make, they are going to stop making somehting becuase INTEREST DECLINES beyond the profit margin.

That having been said... the footage so far looks nice. There are some seriously BIG effects, which is something the first two kind of lacked - I mean, there was nothing on the scale of ripping down the Golden Gate bridge in those first couple of movies. Ian McKellan is always cool, no matter what he says. It looks like Brett Ratner has kept the look and "feel" of the first two films intact. And the "cure" storyline in the comics was pretty good. Which fairly well sums up all the good points I can think of, but it's not without its merits obviously.

Those are all good things, I can agree there.

[TromaFreak64]

1) You can't refute statements that are my personal opinions. These things bother me. They probably don't bother you.

2) Everything I said is also true.

They really aren't especally that nonsense about this being the "Last" one or people who are making that claim. I mean just go and read this (http://www.thexverse.com/interviews/311.shtml).

Pretty much everyone has already confirmed this "last" tool is mostly a marketing tool and any decision would be based on money not strange emotional opinions like it was hard work--that by the way is NOT an opinion, when you say something is occurs becuase of something that is when you are implying it's a FACT. Regardless you can read my other answers.

[TromaFreak64]

PS - Do you need sources for my other answers....you can pretty much just check The Xverse, Super Hero Hype and Comics2Film, but for any that are too difficult to locate for you, I can provide as well like the last one.

[Bishop2]

They really aren't especally that nonsense about this being the "Last" one or people who are making that claim. I mean just go and read this (http://www.thexverse.com/interviews/311.shtml).

Pretty much everyone has already confirmed this "last" tool is mostly a marketing tool and any decision would be based on money not strange emotional opinions like it was hard work--that by the way is NOT an opinion, when you say something is occurs becuase of something that is when you are implying it's a FACT. Regardless you can read my other answers.

Nowhere in that interview does Schuler-Donner ever deny that it's the last X-Men film.

And yes, I'm sure they could still make another one. But right now they intend for it to be the last. All the actors are saying so. The director is saying so. And it should never have been the intention.

[Bishop2]

Although it hurts continuity I prefer a strong actor versus 30 minutes of a poor one. So it's your opinion that continuity is more important than good acting. The current Kitty, professional, seems to be on the best part. Go see Hard Candy it'll make you a believer.

On what basis do you believe that the previous two Kitties were poor actors?

[cyke93]

Well although Cyclops was a central character in the saga, we don't really know if any of these things do or do not happen. Since we don't really know the quality of his character's role, I can't argue with you here, but I also don't think you have any grounds to make such claims for the same reason.

cyclops' role is limited and even though thet movie hasn't been released, its a pretty safe bet that he is. that may have been fine in x2 when at least the story didn't call for cyclops participation. but when you have the storyline of phoenix.. n not just the regular phoenix but with dark phoenix cyclops role should not be limited.

[cyke93]

On what basis do you believe that the previous two Kitties were poor actors?

i dont understand the need for the teenage love triangle. i mean they had one with cyclops jean and logan, although it just focused only on wolverine n jean but either way i dont see the point to it. im also thinking that is has something to do with anna's schedule. she could be in the same boat as james, its clear that their roles had to be limited due to other projects, but at least hers didn't involve the former director at the rival studio with the rival comic books company

[cyke93]

The movie focused on Wolverine, this is true, but it focused on Jean Grey a lot as well. Even Magneto. In fact here is a challenge for you, go back and clock the total running times of those three characters, along with some of the other important characters, and see how little their onscreen appearences differ. But you can still be entitled to your opinion it was too wolverine-centric even if he is on screen only a minute or two more than some other characters, since its arguable the plot revolved around him, but the plot revolved around a lot of other characters and events as well.


x1 had the most balance when it came to a central character. but clearly wolverine was central but you also had magneto. in x2, it was clearly all about wolverine, everything was focused on him, from xavier and eric's conversation about logan to styker's involement.. Jean only had a subplot that shone itself fully only at the end of the movie.

[cyke93]

5) It may seem like nitpicking to some people, but I still gotta say... THREE Kitties in THREE movies? That's a casting ****-up of "fire your casting director the second she even suggests it" proportions. I'm really tired of this crap, especially since I'm so fond of the comic character. Any time there's an actor change in any character in any franchise, I'm pissed - it's always a bad move for continuity, and continuity is law. The first Kitty actress looked the most like the comic counterpart and had enough acting background to be at least on the level of ****ing Shawn Ashmore, should've stuck with Sumela Kay all the way to now.


i'm thinking that they wanted to bring kitty up because her character was introduced in the original dark phoenix storyline . but yeah 3 kitty's whats up wit that ? but for all you know, the other "kittys" weren't really kitty.

[Bishop2]

i'm thinking that they wanted to bring kitty up because her character was introduced in the original dark phoenix storyline . but yeah 3 kitty's whats up wit that ? but for all you know, the other "kittys" weren't really kitty.

Well what are the odds of Xavier playing host to two girls named Katie who can walk through walls? :)

[cyke93]

Well what are the odds of Xavier playing host to two girls named Katie who can walk through walls? :)

i forgot to add... "yeah aite" .. but having three actress changes like that is pretty weak on their part. i wonder why they wanted to complete the "trilogy" when they obviously decided to just skip over this detail.

[ShadowBoxing]

Leader/WidowerRothman/a$$rape victim.

[jcykeson]

i think i agree with Bishop that i felt X3 was kinda rushed.. i still wished they waited a little longer, and that could only be all for the better (getting James Marsden to commit for a longer period and having Singer to direct)

[Bishop2]

I don't know if you watched or read anything about the making of X1 and X2 but the situation was similar if not exactly the same. X1 entered with a script still heavily under re-write and again worked right to the last minute to finish the film. The same was true with X2, which had a script that was still changing while filming as evident through the X2 book and the "blind" ending that was changed.

While the first X-Men film did have a screenwriter working on it when filming began - none other than Joss Whedon - almost none of his stuff was used because Bryan Singer felt that once they'd built sets, it was too late in the game to change their plans around. They did incorporate some of his dialogue, but since Whedon's biggest change was writing an entire third act in which the final battle took place in a Super Wal-Mart, and they'd already build sets for the Statue of Liberty confrontation... well, Singer didn't really use much of his crap. So the script that they had when they began filming was, by and large, the final script. The film DID get rushed through editing and effects, but that was due to Fox's decision to want it ready for a release in Summer of 2000, when Singer was hoping for more like Summer 2001. Heh.

As for X2, the only thing that changed in the script was the ending, and that was at Singer's discretion. He was hesitant to do anything that would be like a "cliffhanger," because he didn't want to assume he'd get to do a third, but the temptation finally overcame him. Other than Jean's death and the final scene at the school and then at the lake, the film was kept as it always was. Early script reviews can still be found online that bear this out.

Of course, the only early script review from X-Men 3 came around once filming had already started, because they had only half of a script up to that point. Also note that the review does not contain a third act. Probably because there wasn't even one yet.


First Stacy-X and Omega Red are not in this film.

There is a photo that was released in a magazine whch supposedly showed Psylocke, Stacy-X and Callisto standing in a row. I wish I could find it now.

[Eros]

wait till the movie comes out[then see the movie], because some of you sound pretty clueless. I like to see movies before i make up opinions^, and i dun care whos gonna be in it or not the story sounds great and i want to see it.

[JZ1]

The movie focused on Wolverine, this is true, but it focused on Jean Grey a lot as well. Even Magneto. In fact here is a challenge for you, go back and clock the total running times of those three characters, along with some of the other important characters, and see how little their onscreen appearences differ. But you can still be entitled to your opinion it was too wolverine-centric even if he is on screen only a minute or two more than some other characters, since its arguable the plot revolved around him, but the plot revolved around a lot of other characters and events as well.

yeah but phoenix saga revolves around cyclops and it seems they once again gave it to wolverine. I wonder if anybody get the feeling so far that every x-men movie has been about wolverine? I mean these are wolverine movies aren't they? and now Ratner comes in and wants to make more Wolverine movies. Don't get me wrong I can't wait for weaponx but it seems he came with intentions for this one character to be on top of all the others. The tragedy is taking stories that are meant for other characters and given them once again to a high paying celebrity instead. But again i can only speak for the previews which i hope i am wrong. I hope they do give Cyclops justice in this story that is meant for him but if it doesn't happen my point makes some sense.

[Redd_Angel]

i completely agree that cyclops needs a lot more screen time in this movie. but i can't really blame the producers for taking advantage of wolverine's popularity. i think they're pretty confident that a lot of really hardcore x-men fans are going to check out the movie at least once. so now they're trying to sell the film to the non-xmen fans. and it seems like most of the general audience are really into wolverine and his attitude and everything that comes with it. x1 and x2 were really successful with wolverine as the 'main' character, so it's probably logical for them to continue with what worked in the past. :o :)

[the_scream]

Bishop 2, great post. You have nailed why X3 is likely to flop. I also suspect Penn and Kinberg are answering all our questions as damage control. Cynical, I know. :p

[LEX]

There is a photo that was released in a magazine whch supposedly showed Psylocke, Stacy-X and Callisto standing in a row. I wish I could find it now.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6593/psylockecallistoandstacyx0el.jpg

[peteapan]

Isnt that now confirmed as arclight and not staceyx?

[Aiden]

Yes

[Kurosawa]

yeah but phoenix saga revolves around cyclops and it seems they once again gave it to wolverine. I wonder if anybody get the feeling so far that every x-men movie has been about wolverine? I mean these are wolverine movies aren't they? and now Ratner comes in and wants to make more Wolverine movies. Don't get me wrong I can't wait for weaponx but it seems he came with intentions for this one character to be on top of all the others. The tragedy is taking stories that are meant for other characters and given them once again to a high paying celebrity instead. But again i can only speak for the previews which i hope i am wrong. I hope they do give Cyclops justice in this story that is meant for him but if it doesn't happen my point makes some sense.

They are 100% Wolverine movies. It should be WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks 3, featuring the Halle Ego Monster.

There's never been an actual X-Men movie.

[jcykeson]

The whole movie X-men has created such a different version from the X-men universe.. Cyclops has been so unfairly potrayed..

[Endeavor]

...I wonder if anybody get the feeling so far that every x-men movie has been about wolverine? I mean these are wolverine movies aren't they? and now Ratner comes in and wants to make more Wolverine movies. Don't get me wrong I can't wait for weaponx but it seems he came with intentions for this one character to be on top of all the others. The tragedy is taking stories that are meant for other characters and given them once again to a high paying celebrity instead. But again i can only speak for the previews which i hope i am wrong. I hope they do give Cyclops justice in this story that is meant for him but if it doesn't happen my point makes some sense.

This isn't Ratner's doing, or the writers for that matter. Tom Rothman and the producers have dictated this and other particulars of the story. Ratner and writers were given very specific parameters with which to work.

[xwolverine2]

They are 100% Wolverine movies. It should be WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks 3, featuring the Halle Ego Monster.

There's never been an actual X-Men movie.
im sure everyone agrees with you:rolleyes:

[N_z0]

Now it all makes sense. It was Whedon's idea to do the final battle at a Mall. A WalMart no less. Figures.

I always knew Whedon would not be the best person to oversee an X-men movie.

[LastSunrise1981]

They are 100% Wolverine movies. It should be WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks 3, featuring the Halle Ego Monster.

There's never been an actual X-Men movie.

http://www.psistar.co.uk/images/stopwhining.jpg

[cyke93]

If wolverine was not getting his own spin off then i can understand why they would want to milk him to the fans but since he's getting his own movie, let him take a freaken back seat ! y not have him disappear for most of the movie and come back at the end.

[cyke93]

The whole movie X-men has created such a different version from the X-men universe.. Cyclops has been so unfairly potrayed..

yes he has .. maybe in x1 they sort of got that "soldier" boy aspect of him down but as far as x2 is concerned, we just saw him breakdown at the end.

how is the average viewer supposed to relate to scott's emotions when all they see on screen is wolverine and jean and that the whole scott and jean relationship is implied but never actually really seen on screen. wolverine gave jean 2 passionate kisses in x2 (although was technically mystique) but what does scott get, a peck on the lips ?! .. for us cyclops fans it was easy to see why he was feelin that way at the end of x2, but my other friends who really don't know too much about x-men, except in the movies thought was too over the top at the end of x2

god help us for x3. (as far as cyclops is concerned, im sure the rest of the movie will be great)

[Amm-arD]

Yeah Wolverine may be one of the main guys, but i dont think any character is as good as him, so im glad he is shown so much!

[LEX]

http://www.psistar.co.uk/images/stopwhining.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9428/applause9ge.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[taintedFB]

I think if this film does well and there is an X4, Wolverine WILL take a backseat because his Spinoff may spawn a new franchise for him.

I would have liked to see X-Men cameos in his film, but it will be a backstory! Oh well...

In any event, I think X4 will focus on Cyclops and some of the other characters and finally introduce Gambit and Bishop, maybe Sinister and hint at Apocalypse at the end.

[Endeavor]

In any event, I think X4 will focus on Cyclops and some of the other characters and finally introduce Gambit and Bishop, maybe Sinister and hint at Apocalypse at the end.

We'll see. Although if Shuler-Donner is involved that wont be the case. She's gone on record saying 'she'd never do an X-Men film without Wolverine'.

[cyke93]

yes he has .. maybe in x1 they sort of got that "soldier" boy aspect of him down but as far as x2 is concerned, we just saw him breakdown at the end.

how is the average viewer supposed to relate to scott's emotions when all they see on screen is wolverine and jean and that the whole scott and jean relationship is implied but never actually really seen on screen. wolverine gave jean 2 passionate kisses in x2 (although was technically mystique) but what does scott get, a peck on the lips ?! .. for us cyclops fans it was easy to see why he was feelin that way at the end of x2, but my other friends who really don't know too much about x-men, except in the movies thought was too over the top at the end of x2

god help us for x3. (as far as cyclops is concerned, im sure the rest of the movie will be great)

i just found this on xmenfilmsn.net:
----

*Brett Ratner chats with Sci Fi (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=35803) about a scene in X3 featuring Wolverine and Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), which should remind X-fans of a similar X1 scene:

"They're in the infirmary, and he's looking down at her. It's a great moment, because you see that he loves her. He's staring at her with love, because he doesn't know if she's going to live or die, and all of a sudden she grabs his hand." says Ratner.

"That's reminiscent of [a similar scene in] the first movie, when he grabbed her after he'd been unconscious, when she was looking at him, in a different way, of course. But that, I thought, was a beautiful moment."
----

yes i love how they said they killed the whole triangle thing with cyclops right ? supposedly at the end of x2? .. at this point y am i even surprised

[jcykeson]

^ thanks to that, people who wathced the movie will only remember wolvie and jean's 'scene'. there's so much more that could be done for the passion in Jean and Scott.. i hate it when people only remembers wolvie as the person who is more suitable for Jean.. i have my friends all saying how Cyke's a wuss and Wolvie scores with the chicks...aih..

[cyke93]

^ thanks to that, people who wathced the movie will only remember wolvie and jean's 'scene'. there's so much more that could be done for the passion in Jean and Scott.. i hate it when people only remembers wolvie as the person who is more suitable for Jean.. i have my friends all saying how Cyke's a wuss and Wolvie scores with the chicks...aih..

the great thing about jean and scott was that they became friends first and then lovers. warren was actively pursuing jean but in the end jean picked "boring" scott. she didn't pick the rich handsome guy, but regular old cyclops (not to say cyclops is not a handsome fellow :P) .. and scott loved her but took him a long time to finally say it. .. their relationship was based on friendship and deep emotional bonds .. but ofcourse in the movies, we just see the physical attraction between jean and logan.

[TromaFreak64]

Nowhere in that interview does Schuler-Donner ever deny that it's the last X-Men film.

And yes, I'm sure they could still make another one. But right now they intend for it to be the last. All the actors are saying so. The director is saying so. And it should never have been the intention.

Since apparently you are months behind on information Bishop. We'll try and catch you up...yes the LAST ONE is mostly a marketing tool. Here is another source (http://www.thexverse.com/news/0281.shtml). This is Patrict Stewert stating just that. That it is a tease.

And to say "THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN the intention"...well if something doesn't make money, then they shouldn't keep making it. I also don't think good films are always designed around what shall happen next. Those sort of unncessary bonds placed on the wrtiers would probably not help this film, or make it feel epic. It would also let the audience know that this is a SAFE film and NOTHING bold could happen. People don't like to see the mundane....I'll catch you up on some of your other stuff in a moment.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

the great thing about jean and scott was that they became friends first and then lovers. warren was actively pursuing jean but in the end jean picked "boring" scott. she didn't pick the rich handsome guy, but regular old cyclops (not to say cyclops is not a handsome fellow :P) .. and scott loved her but took him a long time to finally say it. .. their relationship was based on friendship and deep emotional bonds .. but ofcourse in the movies, we just see the physical attraction between jean and logan.
Yeah, it's too bad that they didn't show the depth if Jean's and Scott's relationship.

[TromaFreak64]

There is a photo that was released in a magazine whch supposedly showed Psylocke, Stacy-X and Callisto standing in a row. I wish I could find it now.

We know that that is Archlight not Stacy X...and Simon already cleared up Ratner's mistake. Omega Red was in early drafts of the script as a cameo like character, however he no longer exist and Ratner made an error when he was quoted as saying he appeared. Check out the foroum with Simon and Zak they cover a lot of the issues you have brought up.

[TromaFreak64]

Yeah, it's too bad that they didn't show the depth if Jean's and Scott's relationship.

Agreed. It's down played too much...granted it wouldn't do much to drive the film it would still be helpful to the develop the chararcters.

[TromaFreak64]

i completely agree that cyclops needs a lot more screen time in this movie. but i can't really blame the producers for taking advantage of wolverine's popularity. i think they're pretty confident that a lot of really hardcore x-men fans are going to check out the movie at least once. so now they're trying to sell the film to the non-xmen fans. and it seems like most of the general audience are really into wolverine and his attitude and everything that comes with it. x1 and x2 were really successful with wolverine as the 'main' character, so it's probably logical for them to continue with what worked in the past. :o :)

I can not disagree with this. I mean if we want Cyclops to have more air time and to be a more important character then we need to show Marvel and Fox that Cyclops is bringing in the money. Everything is motivated by money, in all honesty if we bought more Cyclops stuff, participate in more messageboards clearly devoted to Cyclops, bought Cyclops comics, keep Cyclops questions, then yes someone will notice that Cyclops is bringing in money--just like they do with Wolverine...they don't just GUESS which characters are popular.

In the last 6 months Cyclops popularity has risen greatly, probably in part due to his possible death. Suddenly Cyclops has his own poster in the take a stand ads. Now Cyclops is on the X-men movie poster when Iceman and Collosus are not. Cyclops appears on websites like rotten tomatoes as the image for the film. I mean he is starting to show up....and we are all probably doing the right thing by drawing so much attention to how much we care about the film. It can not hurt our cause in any way, and is probably one of things we need if we want Cyclops to ever have a larger role in X4.

[TromaFreak64]

i think i agree with Bishop that i felt X3 was kinda rushed.. i still wished they waited a little longer, and that could only be all for the better (getting James Marsden to commit for a longer period and having Singer to direct)

Simon stated it was pretty much on par with a regular summer block buster. He didn't feel rushed....and I mean the production timeframe is actually greater than the average big budget Hollywood summer tentpole. Superman Returns has a very similar production time-frame, since the majorty of time they spent in production prior to X-men 3 beginning was focused on casting. That was a major deal for WB and Singer. In X3 the casting really wasn't a focus and didn't waste sevearl months.

Simon also didn't seem to agree with you that filmning started before the script was done. He did state the script was done, but re-writes were done on the set. We do however know some sets were designed before the script was finished. The same was true in X1....including Magentos moutain lair, X-jet, and an unfinished dangeroom. X2 also had sets that were being built before the script was even finished by Zak. Again the dangeroom which was being reassembled from the leftover set in X1 that was discarded and never used. They has had some locations in Alkali Lake damn being built--at the time they were going to be a different facility, but they altered them to be the inside of the base there rather than a warehouse. So starting sets before you script is done is pretty standard when dealing with a summer tent pole. No one complained when Spiderman 2 did it? When dealing with a film of this scale you have to do what is neccessary to get it complete by a particular time sometimes that means working on sets while the script is being written.

[taintedFB]

They make these films as much for the fans as they do for the general public. Even though, Jimmy had limited availability, I think he will fulfill his part in the conclusion of the Phoenix storyline.

[taintedFB]

Most movies, especially important blockbusters, go through several rewrites WHILE in production. It's normal. But as far as sets and locations go, they usually try to not change those once the sets have been built.

All in all, it looks to be a great movie!

[Maze]

Simon stated it was pretty much on par with a regular summer block buster. He didn't feel rushed....and I mean the production timeframe is actually greater than the average big budget Hollywood summer tentpole. Superman Returns has a very similar production time-frame, since the majorty of time they spent in production prior to X-men 3 beginning was focused on casting. That was a major deal for WB and Singer. In X3 the casting really wasn't a focus and didn't waste sevearl months.

Simon also didn't seem to agree with you that filmning started before the script was done. He did state the script was done, but re-writes were done on the set. We do however know some sets were designed before the script was finished. The same was true in X1....including Magentos moutain lair, X-jet, and an unfinished dangeroom. X2 also had sets that were being built before the script was even finished by Zak. Again the dangeroom which was being reassembled from the leftover set in X1 that was discarded and never used. They has had some locations in Alkali Lake damn being built--at the time they were going to be a different facility, but they altered them to be the inside of the base there rather than a warehouse. So starting sets before you script is done is pretty standard when dealing with a summer tent pole. No one complained when Spiderman 2 did it? When dealing with a film of this scale you have to do what is neccessary to get it complete by a particular time sometimes that means working on sets while the script is being written.
uh uh even Ratner said that they were unprepared..and that he would never work again like that..

[taintedFB]

Well this is Ratner's first huge blockbuster special effects heavy summer movie. Rush Hours weren't exactly tentpoles.

[Compi716]

New billboard with Cyke on it: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229661

[vanillacyke]

Huh . . . To me it looks like he's got his uniform on with the glasses.

[WorthyStevens]

Cyke's on the Brotherhood side of that billboard...

[peteapan]

i think its just a blur making the visor look thicker

[peteapan]

Cyke's on the Brotherhood side of that billboard...

hmm there was a theory he got captured by brotherhood.

[WorthyStevens]

It's the visor.

[WorthyStevens]

hmm there was a theory he got captured by brotherhood.

And supposedly, Magneto's hideout is nearby by Alkali Lake...

[Compi716]

And supposedly, Magneto's hideout is nearby by Alkali Lake...
Or perhaps we're just digging a bit too deep into this?



:D

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well... San Fres...how do u spell it? is across from vancouver... where Alkali lake is... hence the golden gate bridge... blah. i suck at explaining things depending on what im trying to explain. :(

[JokerNick]

so what's new on cyke, is he a hero or a cadavar (spelt that wrong, I think)

[peteapan]

Or perhaps we're just digging a bit too deep into this?



:D

perhaps. but the layout on each poster for every movie has had some significance

[WorthyStevens]

Or perhaps we're just digging a bit too deep into this?



:D

Perhaps. :D

[peteapan]

but come on, the design is clearly brother hood one side, xmen the other. so why would they put in cyke when they could have used pyro or juggernaut. there must have been a conscious decision to place him on that side. im not saying it shows a major part of the plot. im just saying there has gotta be reasoning

[jcykeson]

how bout this.. left side, all dead..kekekekk..kidding

[cyke93]

I can not disagree with this. I mean if we want Cyclops to have more air time and to be a more important character then we need to show Marvel and Fox that Cyclops is bringing in the money. Everything is motivated by money, in all honesty if we bought more Cyclops stuff, participate in more messageboards clearly devoted to Cyclops, bought Cyclops comics, keep Cyclops questions, then yes someone will notice that Cyclops is bringing in money--just like they do with Wolverine...they don't just GUESS which characters are popular.

In the last 6 months Cyclops popularity has risen greatly, probably in part due to his possible death. Suddenly Cyclops has his own poster in the take a stand ads. Now Cyclops is on the X-men movie poster when Iceman and Collosus are not. Cyclops appears on websites like rotten tomatoes as the image for the film. I mean he is starting to show up....and we are all probably doing the right thing by drawing so much attention to how much we care about the film. It can not hurt our cause in any way, and is probably one of things we need if we want Cyclops to ever have a larger role in X4.


i think forum is the premiere spot for x-men 3 discussions that i've seen, no where out there have i seen such a high level number of posters and views. usually with message boards, you leave a message and get a response a few hours later, here im able to carry conversations sometimes, like instant messaging. and look at the number of views and replies the cyclops thread has recieved.

i agree that talking about cyclops can do nothing except help him, even if he still dies in the movie or if his screen is very VERY limited. at least after the movie, it would be discussed and hopefully it'll be picked up by other media outlets and fox would know what a mistake it was to shaft his character like that. to know that our quote unquote "*****ing" has at least generated something would make me feel a little better, that it isn't just the fanboys talking about cyclops.

[terry78]

Personally, I feel Cyke should also have been the one to take out the faux Sentinel seeing as how he's done it so much in the comics, but that's splitting hairs. :o

[cyke93]

Or perhaps we're just digging a bit too deep into this?



:D
hehe or the only digging we should do is to make way for cyke's casket :eek: hehehe

how bout this.. left side, all dead..kekekekk..kidding

haha yeah

so what's new on cyke, is he a hero or a cadavar

that should be his tagline for his poster.. lol

[peteapan]

i think forum is the premiere spot for x-men 3 discussions that i've seen, no where out there have i seen such a high level number of posters and views. usually with message boards, you leave a message and get a response a few hours later, here im able to carry conversations sometimes, like instant messaging. and look at the number of views and replies the cyclops thread has recieved.

i agree that talking about cyclops can do nothing except help him, even if he still dies in the movie or if his screen is very VERY limited. at least after the movie, it would be discussed and hopefully it'll be picked up by other media outlets and fox would know what a mistake it was to shaft his character like that. to know that our quote unquote "*****ing" has at least generated something would make me feel a little better, that it isn't just the fanboys talking about cyclops.

I agree. let the people at Fox know how we feel. Even if it hasnt changed a thing there is less chance of things changing to the fans point of view without boards like this that we know are viewed

[DarknessOfDeath]

.... Cyclops turns to the Dark Side :eek: :o

[jcykeson]

agreed, while wolverine will need to slice, dice and jump around taking on the sentinel, scott can take his time and blow their heads of one by one... tasty..

[cyke93]

From Lorien1976 (Taken on April 30, 2006):

http://static.flickr.com/48/138265682_988f527287_b.jpg

two comments id like to make:

1. obviously, why is he on the left side or that could really just mean nothing

2. look at all the attention that happens if cyclops is shown anywhere. fox is really doing a number on us cyke fans

[tonytr1687]

Simon stated it was pretty much on par with a regular summer block buster. He didn't feel rushed....and I mean the production timeframe is actually greater than the average big budget Hollywood summer tentpole. Superman Returns has a very similar production time-frame, since the majorty of time they spent in production prior to X-men 3 beginning was focused on casting. That was a major deal for WB and Singer. In X3 the casting really wasn't a focus and didn't waste sevearl months.

Simon also didn't seem to agree with you that filmning started before the script was done. He did state the script was done, but re-writes were done on the set. We do however know some sets were designed before the script was finished. The same was true in X1....including Magentos moutain lair, X-jet, and an unfinished dangeroom. X2 also had sets that were being built before the script was even finished by Zak. Again the dangeroom which was being reassembled from the leftover set in X1 that was discarded and never used. They has had some locations in Alkali Lake damn being built--at the time they were going to be a different facility, but they altered them to be the inside of the base there rather than a warehouse. So starting sets before you script is done is pretty standard when dealing with a summer tent pole. No one complained when Spiderman 2 did it? When dealing with a film of this scale you have to do what is neccessary to get it complete by a particular time sometimes that means working on sets while the script is being written.

X3 filmed for 5 months. SR filmed for 7 months.

[TromaFreak64]

i think forum is the premiere spot for x-men 3 discussions that i've seen, no where out there have i seen such a high level number of posters and views. usually with message boards, you leave a message and get a response a few hours later, here im able to carry conversations sometimes, like instant messaging. and look at the number of views and replies the cyclops thread has recieved.

i agree that talking about cyclops can do nothing except help him, even if he still dies in the movie or if his screen is very VERY limited. at least after the movie, it would be discussed and hopefully it'll be picked up by other media outlets and fox would know what a mistake it was to shaft his character like that. to know that our quote unquote "*****ing" has at least generated something would make me feel a little better, that it isn't just the fanboys talking about cyclops.

Good points. It's clear that we must have had some impact Cyclops is suddenly on tons of the promotional matieral like posters, etc.. In X2 he was lacking from a lot.

[DarknessOfDeath]

hey... if u take out Mystique, Magento, Wolverine, Storm and Xavier...and then add Iceman...You get the Original 5!!! :D:o I see four out of the 5. we're getting close.

[Aiden]

Yeah. Scott is getting a lot of promotion. He has a bigger role than most people might think

[TromaFreak64]

X3 filmed for 5 months. SR filmed for 7 months.

Your filming times are off I believe....those are closer to the "actual" production times (minus the dead time/pre-production etc.) and we already confirmed ideas about these numbers that the specifics you have provided only further support.

[cyke93]

.... Cyclops turns to the Dark Side :eek: :o

i just went into a barnes and noble where my friend is the manager and we opened up the x3 novel, in the first chapter, cyclops is in the danger room traning and theres a hologram of magneto and they fight and he blasts magneto's head and it flies right off his head and it depicts how the others saw the shadow of the head tossed in the sky .. then in chapter 5.. cyclops goes back to the mansion and kills all the youngling mutants ! :eek:

[cyke93]

Good points. It's clear that we must have had some impact Cyclops is suddenly on tons of the promotional matieral like posters, etc.. In X2 he was lacking from a lot.

actually ive seen him in the promos for x2.. from the moment x2 stuff was coming out, cyclops was always there but in x3, theres been stuff out there but only now we're seeing cyclops, which i think its a big deal everytime cyke appears somewhere.

[TromaFreak64]

i just went into a barnes and noble where my friend is the manager and we opened up the x3 novel, in the first chapter, cyclops is in the danger room traning and theres a hologram of magneto and they fight and he blasts magneto's head and it flies right off his head and it depicts how the others saw the shadow of the head tossed in the sky .. then in chapter 5.. cyclops goes back to the mansion and kills all the youngling mutants ! :eek:

Good stuff.

[Aiden]

i just went into a barnes and noble where my friend is the manager and we opened up the x3 novel, in the first chapter, cyclops is in the danger room traning and theres a hologram of magneto and they fight and he blasts magneto's head and it flies right off his head and it depicts how the others saw the shadow of the head tossed in the sky .. then in chapter 5.. cyclops goes back to the mansion and kills all the youngling mutants ! :eek:Oh Noes!!!11!!

[jcykeson]

in that poster.. some random thought.. see that word "low clearance"...hahha

[peteapan]

i just went into a barnes and noble where my friend is the manager and we opened up the x3 novel, in the first chapter, cyclops is in the danger room traning and theres a hologram of magneto and they fight and he blasts magneto's head and it flies right off his head and it depicts how the others saw the shadow of the head tossed in the sky .. then in chapter 5.. cyclops goes back to the mansion and kills all the youngling mutants ! :eek:

cooooool. god films just keep on coming up with new ideas!

[cyke93]

Good stuff.

and i forgot to add that in the last chapter, xavier yells to cyclops "you were my first student .. my chosen one !" .. looks like x3 is darker than we thought :eek:

[peteapan]

Yeah. Scott is getting a lot of promotion. He has a bigger role than most people might think

Or they know people want him to have a big role so they make out like he does.

[cyke93]

for all those not getting the star wars references, pat yourself in the back.. your not as big as a nerd as you thought .. hehehe

[cyke93]

Or they know people want him to have a big role so they make out like he does.

that's what im thinking .. show him in the promos .. just not in the actual movie like x2

[jcykeson]

so i guess Rachel and Cable are like Leia and Luke rite, cyke93?

[peteapan]

Once u are in the cinema they have your money and thats all they need. They know how bad a lot of people want to see him in a bigger role so if they advertise him heavily and get more people in because of that they aint gonna feel bad about letting people down when they have our cash in their hands

[cyke93]

so i guess Rachel and Cable are like Leia and Luke rite, cyke93?

the surprise ending in x3 is that jean gives birth to them and to protect them, they send them to different times and alternate universes... u know a throw back to the comics ... and i just saw a sneak peak into the final look of the sentinals.. they have polished gold plating and speaks a million languages

[JokerNick]

the surprise ending in x3 is that jean gives birth to them and to protect them, they send them to different times and alternate universes... u know a throw back to the comics ... and i just saw a sneak peak into the final look of the sentinals.. they have polished gold plating and speaks a million languages


NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[taintedFB]

Wouldn't it be cool if maybe Cyclops pretended to join Magneto's army to try and reach Jean? Or maybe, Psylocke is controlling him? Or maybe he's just captured...

I'm starting to think we are going to see more of him than we think. All we need are brief scenes here and there to show that he's alive and doing something to help Jean control Phoenix.

[peteapan]

Wouldn't it be cool if maybe Cyclops pretended to join Magneto's army to try and reach Jean? Or maybe, Psylocke is controlling him? Or maybe he's just captured...

I'm starting to think we are going to see more of him than we think. All we need are brief scenes here and there to show that he's alive and doing something to help Jean control Phoenix.

It would be some pretty poor writing to see the guy being brain washed two movies in a row

[SCOTT&JEAN]

^^^Yeap, I would.

[tonytr1687]

Your filming times are off I believe....those are closer to the "actual" production times (minus the dead time/pre-production etc.) and we already confirmed ideas about these numbers that the specifics you have provided only further support.

All I know is SR had a much longer span of principle photography b/c Marsden was on set all through the summer and then, after shooting X3, had to go back in november and december.

[GambitXremy]

so the novels out the x3 one ?

[taintedFB]

It would be some pretty poor writing to see the guy being brain washed two movies in a row

You're right and I hope they don't do that again.

Ever wonder, how Phoenix could be manipulated when she's so powerful?

Is it more telekinetic power and not telepathic power? Even in the comics and cartoon, I never could figure out how she couldn't sense MAstermind's manipulation.

An any event, I think Cyclops will show up at the end and it'll be powerful and emotional.

[JokerNick]

so the novels out the x3 one ?

**cough** grammar **cough**

[Endeavor]

It would be some pretty poor writing to see the guy being brain washed two movies in a row

Yeah I know. That'd be like reusing that plot device where a mutant's bodily secretions are used to affect other mutants... Oh wait! :O :p

[GambitXremy]

My bad so is it out the novel for x3

[SCOTT&JEAN]

An any event, I think Cyclops will show up at the end and it'll be powerful and emotional.

So do I.:)

I sooooo want to see that happening.:) It will make the whole movie a lot better and pleasant for me at the end.:up:

[taintedFB]

The novel isn't for sale yet, but it has been shipped to stores, so employees probably have access to it in the back room.

[Endeavor]

you do know that description was a joke, right?

[wobbly]

You're right and I hope they don't do that again.

Ever wonder, how Phoenix could be manipulated when she's so powerful?

Is it more telekinetic power and not telepathic power? Even in the comics and cartoon, I never could figure out how she couldn't sense MAstermind's manipulation.

An any event, I think Cyclops will show up at the end and it'll be powerful and emotional.

The way it was presented in the comics Masterminds illusion worked because the Jason Wyngarde facade was something Jean secretly desired and was built up in her mind over time, and let's not forget Mastermind (though he looks like a total weed) was considered one of the most powerful telepaphs around back then.

[The Original Bamfer]

Guys, I've become even MORE positive about Cyke and his outcome because of all the posters that come outs, showing him - closer to the front than Kitty and Rogue, and now with the Awesome billboard that he's in! All the promo images! :eek:

[Kurosawa]

n/m

[Aiden]

Guys, I've become even MORE positive about Cyke and his outcome because of all the posters that come outs, showing him - closer to the front than Kitty and Rogue, and now with the Awesome billboard that he's in! All the promo images! :eek:So am I :up:

[Verlin]

god, the waiting for this movie just drives me mad! ><
even now, since the hopes that cyke will live are as high as never before.
good thing that in germany, the movie hits on may 25th. I'm gonna wear a cyke fans united shirt, just for this evening!

[Garrison]

Yeah I hope he lives too. When I try to talk about it with my friends they all say "I hate Cyclops, I hope he dies." So I'm the only one rooting for Slim at my school.

Go Cyclops!:cyclops:

[TromaFreak64]

Once u are in the cinema they have your money and thats all they need. They know how bad a lot of people want to see him in a bigger role so if they advertise him heavily and get more people in because of that they aint gonna feel bad about letting people down when they have our cash in their hands

I mean that sounds good and all, but if you know anything about the movie industry you would be aware that much of the profits have shifted to DVD sales and movie rentals. Not nearly as much is earned from the actually box office figures, so the film makers will be shooting for repeat viewers.

It's also due to this fact that we are seeing more and more double-dipped dvd's (even triple dipped and rushed HD and Blue RayDisc that don't showcase the capacity but are meer copies with enhanced visuals as their regular DVD counter parts). This is another reason we are seeing short wait times for studios. Plus the profit margin on every dvd sold is much higher than the profit margin on a ticket sold.

The exact figures were given early on in this thread, but X2 did amazingly well in threaters worldwide. The DVD sales were even more incredible along with the rentals. The sources were documented back in that post....someone should go look for it, but the dvd sales and rentals was over 800 million whereas the boxoffice worldwide was closer to 550,000. The statistics were also not even that up to date so more dvd's would have been sold worldwide since. Again, those are just sheer dollar amounts, they aren't the profit margin, but it still demonstrates where and why we are seeing certain changes.

[Maze]

Well this is Ratner's first huge blockbuster special effects heavy summer movie. Rush Hours weren't exactly tentpoles.
True

but ,Singer Xmen movies as rushed as they were had month of preproduction:


the quote from Ratner "I'm not going to make a movie again if I don't get to prep it. It would have been fine if the previous director had prepped the whole picture, and I came in and just shot it, but that wasn't the case. no work had really been done, except by some key crew people, like [production designer] Ed Verreaux, who had some incredible designs. But they were informed by the script. And John Bruno, the visual FX supervisor, has come up with some brilliant visual interpretations of the effect."

[Verlin]

wow, anyone already seen this one? Very small but it's him, eh?:

http://www.cinemania.com.mx/wallpapers/wallpaper_xmen3.jpg

[GambitXremy]

that **** looks tight, i love that pic

[TromaFreak64]

Well that too ,but those movies were more confortable on a budget side than Usual suspect or an Apt pupil, and had a lot of action..

the difference is that Singer Xmen movies as rushed as they were had month of preproduction:

"I'm not going to make a movie again if I don't get to prep it. It would have been fine if the previous director had prepped the whole picture, and I came in and just shot it, but that wasn't the case. no work had really been done, except by some key crew people, like [production designer] Ed Verreaux, who had some incredible designs. But they were informed by the script. And John Bruno, the visual FX supervisor, has come up with some brilliant visual interpretations of the effect."

the quote from Ratner

If we are to believe this quote then we should believe that the script was done before filming started....unlike some posters previous claims....and only rewrites took place after filming began like Simon already stated. Ratner had a different situation than Singer...Singer however made similar comments after X1....so it seems like the same boat.

[TromaFreak64]

wow, anyone already seen this one? Very small but it's him, eh?:

http://www.cinemania.com.mx/wallpapers/wallpaper_xmen3.jpg

Where did this come from? Well that was a dumb question, but what is Cinemenia? Is this offical?

Anyone notice Rogue on the brotherhood's side?

[SCOTT&JEAN]

wow, anyone already seen this one? Very small but it's him, eh?:

http://www.cinemania.com.mx/wallpapers/wallpaper_xmen3.jpg
Yeah. Too bad wolverine looks like a giant compared to Cyclops.

[Kurosawa]

wow, anyone already seen this one? Very small but it's him, eh?:

http://www.cinemania.com.mx/wallpapers/wallpaper_xmen3.jpg


That poster represents everything that is wrong with this franchise.

[PWN3R]

That poster represents everything that is wrong with this franchise.

Yeah, Pete should be where WHOREverine is at. ;)

[Eros]

that poster is insane man its great.

[Maze]

If we are to believe this quote then we should believe that the script was done before filming started....unlike some posters previous claims....and only rewrites took place after filming began like Simon already stated. Ratner had a different situation than Singer...Singer however made similar comments after X1....so it seems like the same boat.
No Singer had month of preproduction ..(one year if i remember well)
X1 shoot was rushed , but they were "ready" unlike there.

[peteapan]

I mean that sounds good and all, but if you know anything about the movie industry you would be aware that much of the profits have shifted to DVD sales and movie rentals. Not nearly as much is earned from the actually box office figures, so the film makers will be shooting for repeat viewers.

It's also due to this fact that we are seeing more and more double-dipped dvd's (even triple dipped and rushed HD and Blue RayDisc that don't showcase the capacity but are meer copies with enhanced visuals as their regular DVD counter parts). This is another reason we are seeing short wait times for studios. Plus the profit margin on every dvd sold is much higher than the profit margin on a ticket sold.

The exact figures were given early on in this thread, but X2 did amazingly well in threaters worldwide. The DVD sales were even more incredible along with the rentals. The sources were documented back in that post....someone should go look for it, but the dvd sales and rentals was over 800 million whereas the boxoffice worldwide was closer to 550,000. The statistics were also not even that up to date so more dvd's would have been sold worldwide since. Again, those are just sheer dollar amounts, they aren't the profit margin, but it still demonstrates where and why we are seeing certain changes.

ok you know figures. cool. but at the end of the day the script is written the film is made. That cant be changed now. They have looked at what people want and are now premoting that more. They cant change the film but have adjusted the advertising they are throwing out to try and get people in the theatres. they want people to go and see their film and will advertise for this purpose regardless

[peteapan]

God damn just one of the posters can surely do without Halle and Hugh at the front. Just one!

[the_scream]

I am so SICK of seeing Wolverine on every bloody poster. This is the X-Men NOT Wolverine the Movie. Man, they have no idea. Very similar to when they used to market Batman films on the villains thinking that was what people wanted.

[peteapan]

This one is ridiculous. He takes up like fifty percent of the page and apart from Halle everyone else is so ridiculously small.

[Maze]

I am so SICK of seeing Wolverine on every bloody poster. This is the X-Men NOT Wolverine the Movie. Man, they have no idea. Very similar to when they used to market Batman films on the villains thinking that was what people wanted.
Yep before Batman begins..

patience my friends ;)

[PhePhe112]

I am so SICK of seeing Wolverine on every bloody poster. This is the X-Men NOT Wolverine the Movie. Man, they have no idea. Very similar to when they used to market Batman films on the villains thinking that was what people wanted.

I agree 100%!!!!
here is a challenge for someone.... make the same poster but put cyke up front where he is supposed to be, as the leader!!!! :cyclops:

[taintedFB]

Edit.

[kieron39]

hey, can some one tell me how long james spent filming his part in X3 on his break from superman returns....was it 2 days? or 2 weeks?
thanks

[vanillacyke]

rumor is 3 minutes but I'm thinking it had to be at least 7.

[TromaFreak64]

ok you know figures. cool. but at the end of the day the script is written the film is made. That cant be changed now. They have looked at what people want and are now premoting that more. They cant change the film but have adjusted the advertising they are throwing out to try and get people in the theatres. they want people to go and see their film and will advertise for this purpose regardless

I am not disputing the fact that Cyclops may appear heaivily in advertising NOW to promote something they missed before. It very well could be the case, but I am saying that is not their ONLY purpose in this day and age. Essentially I am agreeing with you.

[TromaFreak64]

hey, can some one tell me how long james spent filming his part in X3 on his break from superman returns....was it 2 days? or 2 weeks?
thanks

He was on the set for about 12 days that can be confirmed. Plus he came back for reshoots.

[TromaFreak64]

Scary part is they said he also had plenty of time to joke around, and do impresonations of the set instead of act according to simon

[Aiden]

That new score list kind of hints at Scott's survival

[Phoenix_Rising]

Guys, on of the tracks of the soundtrack for X3 is called Shock but No Oars, now what could be shocking to the X-men. I mean they've had Professor X killed, what could possibly be more shocking than that?! I believe it's Cyclops return, I can't think of anything else they'd be shocked about just before the battle against the brotherhood. After all they know 'Magneto's got an army out there' so that isn't the shock but Scott's return could well be, there is still hope for our rubey-eyed friend :-)!

[LastSunrise1981]

I missed the brand new tv spot, what station did they show it on?

[TromaFreak64]

Well it definetely makes the funeral clear....guess it's not a memorial for jean at the beginning like many thought...does this mean that really early detail from the owners of the property about two names and one being Jean Grey and the other is not Cyclops...well does this mean it is Xavier?

[TromaFreak64]

I missed the brand new tv spot, what station did they show it on?

ESPN

[Aiden]

I missed the brand new tv spot, what station did they show it on?You can download it or watch it on Youtube

[Garrison]

Since the junior novel came out today does anyone know if it has any info about Cyclops?

[The Batman]

I'm still doubting Cyclops will survive...but we'll find out soon enough, wont we?

It's crunch time, now folks...

[kitty pryde]

I agree 100%!!!!
here is a challenge for someone.... make the same poster but put cyke up front where he is supposed to be, as the leader!!!! :cyclops:


or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.

[Aiden]

That's cool Kitty :up:

[eXperiment]

here.

http://www.taintedtv.com/poster.jpg

Awesome job man!!!!!! :up::up: Two thumbs way up!!!!

[gap5ewl]

or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.
im upset to, but lets face it james isnt a big name actor like hugh and halle so obviously the big namers will be in front of the poster to sell more tickets.

[Bishop2]

im upset to, but lets face it james isnt a big name actor like hugh and halle so obviously the big namers will be in front of the poster to sell more tickets.

Hugh was a nobody until the leading role in X-Men made him a star.

Give James a leading role and he'll become a star.

[Hugh'sMrs]

Well... San Fres...how do u spell it? is across from vancouver... where Alkali lake is... hence the golden gate bridge... blah. i suck at explaining things depending on what im trying to explain. :(

Vancouver is NOT across the bay from San Francisco. Infact, there are two more states -- Oregon and Washington between California and the Canadian border.

Alkali Lake is supposed to be in the Canadian territory of Northern Alberta, while Vancouver is in British Columbia.

In other words, even if Magneto's base was near Alkali Lake, it's nowhere near San Francisco.

[PhePhe112]

or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.

Quote:
Originally Posted by taintedFB
here.


http://www.taintedtv.com/poster.jpg


Those are both fantastic!
Thanks!!!!
*sigh, I wish "they" knew how happy they'd make A LOT of fans if they centered something around Cyclops. :cyclops: for life!!!!

[ginny_weasley]

or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.

V. nice - one of the better poster-manips I've seen :up:

[Redd_Angel]

:cyclops: still holding out hope that cyclops will survive!!! :p

[fluffysellscars]

I agree 100%!!!!
here is a challenge for someone.... make the same poster but put cyke up front where he is supposed to be, as the leader!!!! :cyclops:

Posted this in the Manips thread, but here you go:

http://i1.tinypic.com/x0xzs5.jpg

[vanillacyke]

NOW that's what I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!

[cyke93]

i agree.. in a perfect world, this is how it would be

[cyke93]

or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.

cool manip.. when i saw it and read "who will you stand with" .. i wanted to scream: "WITH YOU CYCLOPS !" hehe

i cud tolerate storm taking charge because she did lead in the comics and in the cartoons n stuff but she was 2nd only to cyclops. too bad thats not the case

[taintedFB]

Posted this in the Manips thread, but here you go:

http://i1.tinypic.com/x0xzs5.jpg

AWESOME. Hey, where'd you find the Cyclops pic where his arm isn't cut off?

[fluffysellscars]

I actually had to paste Wolverine's arm onto Cyc's body.

[TromaFreak64]

Since the junior novel came out today does anyone know if it has any info about Cyclops?

It actually doesn't come out until May 9....check the publisher's website (http://www.harpercollins.com/global_scripts/product_catalog/book_xml.asp?isbn=0060822082&tc=bd)

[The Original Bamfer]

The Children's books debut tomorrow (the second), right?

[TromaFreak64]

The Children's books debut tomorrow (the second), right?

According to the publisher website I just sent and amazon.com it comes out the 9th.

[Garrison]

O_o I heard the first. But you are probably right.

[Bishop2]

Posted this in the Manips thread, but here you go:

http://i1.tinypic.com/x0xzs5.jpg

DAT'S WAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MUTHA****ERS! :up: :up: :up: :up:

[Redd_Angel]

^ lol! calm down!
good job!!! :up:

[WorthyStevens]

I am so SICK of seeing Wolverine on every bloody poster. This is the X-Men NOT Wolverine the Movie. Man, they have no idea. Very similar to when they used to market Batman films on the villains thinking that was what people wanted.

That... I agree with you on.

[PWN3R]

Posted this in the Manips thread, but here you go:

http://i1.tinypic.com/x0xzs5.jpg

YES! Love this, especially a certain someone waaay in the back, :up: :) .

[WorthyStevens]

That really is how it should look.

[PWN3R]

totally agree Worthy.

[jusblaze21]

Why? cant the poster look like that Why?:mad:

[Exploding Boy]

Logan in the back, where he belongs :up:

[cyke93]

now if we can only get someone to do something about halle... oppss did i say that outloud.. hgeehe

[Optic Rage]

Na she cost 11 million..i can understand why they want her face upfront.

[jusblaze21]

now if we can only get someone to do something about halle... oppss did i say that outloud.. hgeehe

IMO Xavier should be in Storms place.:o

[cyke93]

Na she cost 11 million..i can understand why they want her face upfront.

lol

[SCOTT&JEAN]

or how about one of his own?

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/7397/x3poster3he.png

...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.
Ditto.

[Bishop2]

I am so SICK of seeing Wolverine on every bloody poster. This is the X-Men NOT Wolverine the Movie.

And yet, ironically, they're planning to make a Wolverine spinoff.

A spinoff. Starring Wolverine. Despite the fact that he's already starred in and completely dominated two (likely three) movies called "X-Men."

I spit on them.

[invincible mann]

you may spit on them bishop but that wont stop you from seeing X3
right?

[Bishop2]

you may spit on them bishop but that wont stop you from seeing X3
right?

At this point, I'm so annoyed with the way Fox is handling things that I'm planning on theater-hopping my way in. :)

[peteapan]

Woohooo yeh another new shot of cyke. I dunno how to post it here but its over on the Colossus thread. He is further up the front and in an action stance on that mag. brilliant

[Bishop2]

Woohooo yeh another new shot of cyke. I dunno how to post it here but its over on the Colossus thread. He is further up the front and in an action stance on that mag. brilliant

Done.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/16.jpg

[peteapan]

I guess we all just gotta put up with Wolvy dominating but Cyke is level with Storm and looks a lot cooler

[jcykeson]

i bet cyke is saying "u go headfirst wolvie, i'll be smarter and shoot from distance"

[Aiden]

Nice covers

[LEX]

Done.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/16.jpg
Holy frigging hell!

Okay, apart from the new TV spot, what else did I miss when I was in bed? :o

[jcykeson]

Lex, u missed the news on the apparent 'soundtrack'

[eXperiment]

Done.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/16.jpg

Now thats hot!!!!!!!!

[LEX]

Lex, u missed the news on the apparent 'soundtrack'
Apart from the soundtrack. :O I saw the tracklisting before I went to bed.

[Aiden]

Iceman looks cool as well

[berzerko89]

Wow those are awsome... nice find!

[CapBeerCino]

Wow, been gone for a few days and I dont know a single thread...
Thank god this one is still around...
Any Cyke news?

[LEX]

Wow, been gone for a few days and I dont know a single thread...
Thank god this one is still around...
Any Cyke news?
Well, there's a new billboard with Cyclops on it and a new X-Men team pic.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/16.jpg

[berzerko89]

Wow, been gone for a few days and I dont know a single thread...
Thank god this one is still around...
Any Cyke news?

All we know is that he is DEAD-MEAT! ;)

[LEX]

All we know is that he is DEAD-MEAT! ;)
Blasphemy, you! Back to the cage! :o

[berzerko89]

What?! I know for a fact that he is TOAST!!! I already got passed the cry me a river over cyke but we just need to accept his fate. Finish. End of Story. ;)

i - am - so - evil

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

[CapBeerCino]

All we know is that he is DEAD-MEAT! ;)

I asked about NEW stuff :p
Great pic but Scott needs to be a lil more front and center imo.:) Someone did a great job about it in the manip thread :up:

[LEX]

Well, there's a new billboard with Cyclops on it and a new X-Men team pic.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/16.jpg
*sets as wallpaper*

I really like that Cyclops pose. :up:

[berzerko89]

yeah, i just checkd the manips thread, there are cool manips there. go stop by if you have a chance. lol. ;)

[CapBeerCino]

*sets as wallpaper*

I really like that Cyclops pose. :up:

At least he's one of the first 3...

[DarknessOfDeath]

Okay, apart from the new TV spot, what else did I miss when I was in bed? :o

Me... :O :o hehehe














I kid I kid. LMAO:(

[CapBeerCino]

^ Dod your posts are the weirdest :p

[DarknessOfDeath]

^ Dod your posts are the weirdest :p

ARe you sure you saw what you saw?










:p

[LEX]

Me... :O :o hehehe














I kid I kid. LMAO:(
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/746/1huh9cz.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/746/1huh9cz.gif (http://imageshack.us)

*backs away slowly*

[DarknessOfDeath]

u know i was joking right? :(

[CapBeerCino]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/746/1huh9cz.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/746/1huh9cz.gif (http://imageshack.us)

*backs away slowly*

But why? Go for it :p

[FRUITY]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/fruityemen/Gif/AH_by_OfSleepyEyes.gifWhat is going on here?

[CapBeerCino]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/fruityemen/Gif/AH_by_OfSleepyEyes.gifWhat is going on here?

You have no idea...

[DarknessOfDeath]

nothings going on... move along...move along.

[hue]

And yet, ironically, they're planning to make a Wolverine spinoff.

A spinoff. Starring Wolverine. Despite the fact that he's already starred in and completely dominated two (likely three) movies called "X-Men."

I spit on them.

Best thing to do. Just don't go see the Wolverine movie. Thats what i'm going to do. I'm not going to spend any money on it.

[ironmaidenrules]

ok


ok

cyke cant die
we need him for x4-6(the sinister arc)

then he can be played off as the super bad ass mofo that he is

[hue]

or how about one of his own?



...I LOVE cyclops and it upsets me that all i see is pictures of Storm and wolverine doing his Job.

I agree. These movies made money and are entertaining, but will never be respected as being credible or respected as good interpretations of the books. It is all marketing and money at the expense of being true to the books. Particularly because of the way those 2 have taken over Cykes role. Sure, they will get their money, but never much respect in terms of their interpretations of the books. And not just fans of Cyke, but persons who have been collecting for a long time (myself 23 years) and know how things are really supposed to be. I know Clairmont must be thrilled his stories have been made to movies, but I bet even though he probably will never admit it, he hates what theyve done to the leader. In his writing, he clairly liked the character and Cyke was in front, while he wrote stories for the other characters as well. But I bet the Pheonix/Dark Pheonix story is his favorite and to see it radically changed like this cannot, cannot make him too happy. Hopefully, they can do future spinoffs with the remaining cast WITHOUT Wolverine and put Cyke in front where he belongs, making up for what they have done to him and putting him where he belongs. Cyke has so many more interesting stories than Logan anyway.

The fact that there are so many posts here, compared to the few at Wolverines official thread, lends to the popularity of Cyke and the producers need to finally listen to this and realize there is money to be made in focussing on other characters as well as Wolverine.

[cookiva]

This morning, I saw a bus with a new X3 banner. Its the same one as the new movie theater one, except one difference. Instead of Rogue, we get a new shot of Cyclops. The bus comes back around noon, so Ill get a good pic then...

[Redd_Angel]

:) looking forward to that bus pic!!!

just curious, soo... do u like sit around and bus-watch?? hee hee. i kid! i kid! :p :up:

[cookiva]

It goes right outside of my building, and when my alarm went off, I saw it...

[Bishop2]

Man, I had a dream last night that X-Men 3 was the ultimate Marvel movie. The final battle was, truly, an all-out war between the mutants who wish to leave peacefully with humans and those who wish to dominate and destroy humanity. It raged across the entire city of San Francisco, and every other Marvel hero currently licensed by Fox, from the Fantastic Four to Daredevil, showed up to help the X-Men out. Cyclops did only show up in four or five scenes in the movie, but every single one of his scenes was intensely emotional and intregal to the storyline, since they focused on his interactions with Jean/Phoenix. Naturally, he survived to the end of the movie, but since Jean ripped his arms off at their third meeting, in the final scene he had... robot arms.

Okay, so maybe this isn't the best movie idea ever.

Dreams are weird.

[Verlin]

Hey, at least your dream was cool!

In my dream me and all the other x-men were sitting in the cinema to watch the film. cyke right to my left. suddenly someone goes "scott." all heads turn to the left just to see jean, the normal good old jean, stand there an stare at her husband. cyke (till this happening he was totally bored) jumps to his feat an says : "jean!"
-end of dream-

That was sooo stupid...><