Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Sparta*]

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

[TheVileOne]

Well it depends on when that movie starts shooting.

Also, just about every movie especially ones like X-men have reshoots, pick-ups, and coverage. So I doubt they will be totally finished by December, probably just finished on principal production.

[MsNatchios]

Just had a thought. Maybe Marsden's couple weeks of filming consisted of mainly flashback scenes, which sucks because in that case the death scenario seems more likely.

[Octoberist]

Dude, every friggin' character had a thread but Cyclops. I had to make one b/c some people were too worried about Storm's hair. Well, at least, that was the impression that I got. I'm like "What the heck is going on here?" (By the way, the majority of the people are cool here so I hope that I'm not coming off as a jerk :))

[Sparta*]

I don't give to craps about Storm in the X movies. She is just there... in the way of the other X-men. Comic book storm brings a sense of grace and wisdom whenever she was with the X-men......totally not what Halle Berry portrays. God I hate her more and more every passing second. If she becomes LEADER of the x-men I will boycott this movie!

[Supreme Power]

I don't give to craps about Storm in the X movies. She is just there... in the way of the other X-men. Comic book storm brings a sense of grace and wisdom whenever she was with the X-men......totally not what Halle Berry portrays. God I hate her more and more every passing second. If she becomes LEADER of the x-men I will boycott this movie!
Your opinion right. :)

[Sparta*]

Of course thats my opinion.....I wrote it didn't I? lol

[vanillacyke]

I'm with you guys I mean I think for sure they are going to kill him but I'm definatly not happy about it!!! I wish there was something we all could do. I remeber I made a thread a long time ago stating my concern for the treatment of the character hoping some one from Fox might cross by it but I doubt they did. Do ya think anyone from Fox is reading what were throwing out on this thread or is it all in vain?

[Supreme Power]

Trust me. It will be a BIG DEAL when the movie hits theaters this May, if Cyclops dies like a piece of crap.

I don't know... for the people who don't care now WILL 5 months from now. The mainstream and casual fans will question it.

For the people who justify Cyclops' death, well, they're so ignorant on what's going on.
I've been saying this for a while. I would rather neither Xavier or Cyclops dies. But if Xavier dies over Cyclops, and then they don't have Cyclops doing anything else but watching people from the background, with nothing else he does, I would be very upset. :o

[Sparta*]

I'm with you guys I mean I think for sure they are going to kill him but I'm definatly not happy about it!!! I wish there was something we all could do. I remeber I made a thread a long time ago stating my concern for the treatment of the character hoping some one from Fox might cross by it but I doubt they did. Do ya think anyone from Fox is reading what were throwing out on this thread or is it all in vain?

I'm sure they have read over some stuff on this sight here and there...

I just don't understand which GENIOUS writer turned to the otheres and said "Hey, I have the BEST IDEA EVER! Let's kill the most important X-man, and Xaviers first student! Totally ruining the feel of the X-men and pissing off fans all over the world!" :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

[vanillacyke]

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

ABSOLUTLY!!!!! He's never died in the comics (He may have been fused with En Sabah Nur but he never died) and if he were to die it'd never, NEVER be at the hands of Jean thats stupid. Thats like Mary Jane killing Peter Parker, just stupid.

[vanillacyke]

I'm sure they have read over some stuff on this sight here and there...

I just don't understand which GENIOUS writer turned to the otheres and said "Hey, I have the BEST IDEA EVER! Let's kill the most important X-man, and Xaviers first student! Totally ruining the feel of the X-men and pissing off fans all over the world!" :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

LMAO!!!

[Bishop2]

Well, the teaser trailer pretty much confirms Cyclops' death, it appears. I mean, he's only in two shots, both in the same location and both in the same clothing. And both from the scene mentioned in the old script review.

In fact, there's evidence here to support that EVERYTHING in the script review is still accurate, despite the claims to the contrary from Marvel.

It looks big and impressive, and the writing is going to be the disastrous letdown.

[StevieNicks1988]

I'm just going to give up, because despite my claims and proof that things have changed, you people are still too narrow-minded, so off I go, and I'll come back in May and laugh either way if he does die or not. 1) Because you people will throw hissyfits because they basically SAVE Cyclops not only from embarrasing the character more but having him just stand around like a pansy and have nothing to do and 2) Boycotting the movie just because one character dies. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's like people boycotting Batman Begins because they casted Katie Holmes or boycotting the comics because mutants are getting de-powered and what-not. It's stupid.

Arad already gave the hint; 'in the comics, people die and come back all the time', that should be enough right there that gives the hint Cyclops will most likely come back in the third act. How do I know? I don't, and neither do any of you have any proof to debunk it, either. Really, do you see James Marsden upset about this? No, after he'd filmed his scenes and even before in interviews about X3, he seemed rather normal and excited about the movie and the production and talking about Cyke in general, where-as actors such as Pierce Brosnan throw hissyfits and slam the company and producers for letting him go of the 007 role.

As I said in the past pages, things have changed, months have passed, the script has been re-written and re-done time and time again, so practically any and/or every scene could have been re-worked and tampered with.

Perhaps now, Cyclops has more scenes than we thought and they moved the lake scene further into the movie, so we see where Cyclops goes after he leaves the X-Men and why he winds up there. Perhaps Cyclops doesn't die and he comes back in the third act when Jean goes good and together they defeat Magneto and save thousands of mutants. Perhaps he does go out quick and painless, but they give him one of those 'you'll never forget it' death scenes like Obi-Wan from Star Wars or Jean from X2 or Doc Octopus from Spider-Man 2.

I shall wait until May to find out the answer, but I'll leave yall with a little advice. Things can always be changed, no matter what, especially endings (X2 anybody?). Just remember what was said earlier: 'And one of the producers said they had most of Marsden's scenes done... Not all. That means he would be going back for more... highly unlikely if he simply dies at the lake.' I'm going to try and find links and sources and material to back this up, but I've been hearing quite a lot of chatter and mumblings about Marsden being on a closed set since he was last on set a month or so back, so don't go counting your ducks yet, because you just may be in for a surprise. Night people.

[lazerustheduck]

This is all good evidence...the rest is heresay...however you are correct that I have heard about a twist ending. And remember we a mysterious Asian mutant whose powers are yet unknown
If you know the rules of heresay why you still touting that old script?

[StevieNicks1988]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5021/12344lf.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Take a look at this. Jacket, normal shirt, looks like a man on a holiday, right? Regular civilian clothes, right? Normal black or dark blue, whatever, jacket with a red/yellowish-tan stripe down it. Now, check his pic on the official mugshots. (Can someone send me the mugshot pic so I can outline them or someone do them for me for visuals?) There is a very noticable gold line directly under his chin that does not appear on his jacket in the lake scene on the teaser. Also, he is wearing a plain shirt in the trailer, while in the mugshot is obviously leather that extends to each side. I can't really tell, but it also looks like there is a hardly noticable zipper line down the middle of it, where in the teaser, his jacket is obviously open, revealing his shirt. Also, don't try and comment about what I'm seeing on the shirt is the red/yellow-ish stripe, as I see a gold colored line, where there the red comes first.

[psifreek27]

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

Completely Agree...it boggles me as to how passive people are reacting to Scott's possible death...especially at the hands of Jean, in such a LAME ASS way...if jean is gonna kill him...at least let him fight her!...but regardless scott shouldnt be killed off just because Marsden(:supes:) was on set for too short a time...that is nuts.

I have some further hope that were being led to beleive Scott dies, because about a month ago Zak Penn said that the one thing he can say to us worried fans out there is "Dont pay attention to a rough draft that we wrote before the movie even started filming!! ALOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE"

hopefully scott's impending doom is one of them...

I will tell you this right now...This movie when it comes out could be the messiah of Xfilms...it could be better than Batman Begins...but if Scott dies...in my books it will lose all potential at being a 9-10 and go straight to a crummy 3-4 :down ...IMHO.

::please God dont let scott die!!!::

[MsNatchios]

It's called photoshop. Marsden was probably in Australia filming SR and couldn't do the publicity stills, hence why he's wearing the shades instead of his typical uniform visor. Maybe that's the photography that he allegedly had yet to finish.

[aaron]

Well, the teaser trailer pretty much confirms Cyclops' death, it appears. I mean, he's only in two shots, both in the same location and both in the same clothing. And both from the scene mentioned in the old script review.

In fact, there's evidence here to support that EVERYTHING in the script review is still accurate, despite the claims to the contrary from Marvel.

It looks big and impressive, and the writing is going to be the disastrous letdown.

Hes only in 2 shots, angel gets less shown, does that mean he'll die aswell?

and i think theyre doing exactly what the trailer is supposed to do...tease us, im sure he wont die

[aaron]

It's very possible the two weeks of filming consisted of a few scenes prior to his Alkali Lake death, and then the death scene itself. Why two weeks? Could be a number of things, be it the scenes were scheduled to film days apart, other cast members had to be available, etc. Please provide a link that says Ian Mckellen only filmed for two weeks on X2. Two weeks is NOT a long time. The average for a supporting/main character to be filming a movie of this type and size is 4-5 months. A far cry from a mere two weeks. And just look at how long Marsden has been filming Superman Returns: Since early summer with only a two-week haitus to film X3...and he's only a supporting role/third-wheel character in SR!

5 months? ok but this movie in total will have like 3 months and a few weeks filming, and 2 weeks out of that is 1/7 which isnt too bad

[Retroman]

IF the producers are killing off Cyke because of his Superman schedule then they're lying i think. They had more than enough time to give him a decent supporting role. This was when Marsden was free to shoot....

September 9 - Mid October

November 24 - ?????

[aaron]

If they do kill him off it will no doubt be because of him working with singer

[Retroman]

If they do kill him off it will no doubt be because of him working with singer
Who they (producers) call a friend and would 'welcome back for another movie'.:o The hypocrocy of Hollywood.:rolleyes:

[aaron]

Who they (producers) call a friend and would 'welcome back for another movie'.:o The hypocrocy of Hollywood.:rolleyes:
Huh huh

well i just think they wouldnt hint at cyclops death in the trailer so much, i think of it as they could be showing it that way in the trailer as a joke against what we learnt about him from the AICN script review, that it will be a surprise and he'll have an important role or it is in fact the end for him with a very small role, and they are just double-bluffing us

[Kanon]

and i think theyre doing exactly what the trailer is supposed to do...tease us, im sure he wont die
Agree. They sure are building up the rumors, nothing more. I refuse to believe we have almost the entire plot figured out. I'm sure the producers are trying to surprise us, and they would keep Cyke's death top-secret if it were real.

[Retroman]

Huh huh

well i just think they wouldnt hint at cyclops death in the trailer so much, i think of it as they could be showing it that way in the trailer as a joke against what we learnt about him from the AICN script review, that it will be a surprise and he'll have an important role or it is in fact the end for him with a very small role, and they are just double-bluffing us
I hope so too but why couldn't they do a promo shoot with Marsden like everyone else. Even Callisto gets a decent promo shot (not that i'm complaining).

[aaron]

I hope so too but why couldn't they do a promo shoot with Marsden like everyone else. Even Callisto gets a decent promo shot (not that i'm complaining).

Yeah callistos promo shot shows that she probably has a good sized role, which pisses me off more than you can believe since everyone said there isnt space for new characters, and here she is, it should be space for gambit

[Retroman]

Yeah callistos promo shot shows that she probably has a good sized role, which pisses me off more than you can believe since everyone said there isnt space for new characters, and here she is, it should be space for gambit
I can't disagree with that.:(

Heres a new pic of James in Superman Returns as Richard White in a scene with Clark (looking pissed) and Jimmy.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7108/srpics6gr.jpg

Source: http://justjared.blogspot.com/2005/12/brandon-routh.html

[aaron]

I think brandon routh is quite ugly

[Retroman]

I don't he's that bad looking and i'm saying that in a totally un-gay way.:o

[aaron]

Hehe

in other news lol king kong 187mins! and empire gave it 5 stars, and thats f****** rare

is richard white a good or bad character?

[antonydavanzo]

DIE DIE DIE Cykes

[aaron]

What a stupid thing to say

[antonydavanzo]

why? it will get a reaction if he does that wont damage the film

[ShadowBoxing]

LOL ha ha ha if this does'nt prove Cyke is a gonner I don't know what does. I mean even the publicity pic. of him screams death! He isn't even wearing his visor for cripe sakes!!! and NO fox is not trying to trick us thats just stupid. They don't care what we know cause they know no matter what fans will go see it. geez ya'll so naive.You're right on this...the trailer is not for the fanboys who have this film 100% figured out

[ShadowBoxing]

why? it will get a reaction if he does that wont damage the filmhim dying will damage the film greatly for the fans

[Retroman]

Hehe

in other news lol king kong 187mins! and empire gave it 5 stars, and thats f****** rare

is richard white a good or bad character?
Peter Jackson is totally obssesed with Kong so i'm not really surprised the movie turned out good (according to Empire).

Richard is a good character. The 'other guy', a pilot, Lois' fiancé and father of their son.

[Retroman]

him dying will damage the film greatly for the fans
:( :up:

[aaron]

oh, so basically his role in the notebook

[Ions]

Hopefully he gets to shine, even if it's for a few seconds before he gets vaporized.. :(
Love the avatar Kol. :up:

[Hugh'sMrs]

James Marsden was in Australia filming Superman Returns from March until just recently (with a couple of breaks when he was in LA for different events and in Vancouver for X3)

Why does everyone keep stating that he has a minor role in SR? If you paid attention to that production you'd know he's playing a significant role. Guy Dyas said in one of the video blogs that Bryan wanted Richard to be dynamic, a knight in shining armor and that he's the human version of Superman.

[aaron]

Hehe thanks

[antonydavanzo]

i love the X men and I love Cykes but i really cant see that him dying is bad. Fan boys get over it, god it may not happen but if it does what is everyone gonna do, not watch the film? Tragedy is a good thing in film rather than the typical all american hero crap where no hero dies

[ShadowBoxing]

i love the X men and I love Cykes but i really cant see that him dying is bad. Fan boys get over it, god it may not happen but if it does what is everyone gonna do, not watch the film? Tragedy is a good thing in film rather than the typical all american hero crap where no hero diesRight but this is your personal opinion...most people on here from day one expressed intense displeasure with his "death". Its even been highly theorized that Rothman is doing this as revenge against Singer and Marsden for Superman.

[Angry Sentinel]

Edit...
1) Because you people will throw hissyfits because they basically SAVE Cyclops not only from embarrasing the character more but having him just stand around like a pansy and have nothing to do and

Arad already gave the hint; 'in the comics, people die and come back all the time', that should be enough right there that gives the hint Cyclops will most likely come back in the third act. How do I know? I don't, and neither do any of you have any proof to debunk it, either. Really, do you see James Marsden upset about this? No, after he'd filmed his scenes and even before in interviews about X3, he seemed rather normal and excited about the movie and the production and talking about Cyke in general, where-as actors such as Pierce Brosnan throw hissyfits and slam the company and producers for letting him go of the 007 role.

As I said in the past pages, things have changed, months have passed, the script has been re-written and re-done time and time again, so practically any and/or every scene could have been re-worked and tampered with. Save Cyclops? Save Cyclops? Did you just say save Cyclops? Why should anyone have to save Cyclops from standing around in a movie where one of the main themes is about HIS WIFE??!!!... Not to mention that it's supposedly the adaptation of one of the most legendary comic sagas of it's time.

Look, I hear what your saying, and EITHER option (actual death, or assumed death to return in the third act) is SOOOOOOOO wrong it's just not funny! With Cyke dead, they will have to jump through a TON of hoops to even come close to the emotion of the original story. Bringing him back at the end of the movie is cute all but still has none of the weight or emotional depth that they could've used THROUGHOUT the movie. Am I a raving lunatic that wont go see the movie for myself...no. But I will post my opinion on an open forum expressing just how WRONG it is to do such a thing to Cyclops in a MOVIE ABOUT HIS WIFE!! They are screwing up the best love story (sorry Rogue and Remy) ever told in the pages in of the Xmen. And I have the right to care, and call them Jacka**es for it!

Seriously I love this "movieverse", cause it's all I got to represent the Xmen on screen. And I have enjoyed most interpretations of things done. But this isnt right, It doesnt embody the feeling and meaning of the story if you kill Cyke, or bring him back in the third act! This was their opportunity to show the world what kind of great stories us Comic nerds have been reading about for over 40 years. DOES ANYONE HERE EVEN REALIZE WHAT THAT STORY WAS REALLY ABOUT??? Well I do, and they are butchering the crap out of it. Which I will live with because I have no choice, but try to tell me to be happy about it, happy my A**! Not with chopped liver when I could have had steak!

It's like my granddaddy used to say... "You cant have peanut butter and Jelly without the Jelly. That's just peanut butter, no matter what anyone trys to tell you, that's just wrong!" :down

[antonydavanzo]

maybe but my point is that everyon9e is struggling to come to terms with the possibilty of his death which is what its intended to do. why is that bad. I would prefer it if knowone died but if someone does die from a movie goers point of view rather than a fans point of view it would be better for a character we cared about to die rather than someone we wouldnt miss

[ShadowBoxing]

maybe but my point is that everyon9e is struggling to come to terms with the possibilty of his death which is what its intended to do. why is that bad. I would prefer it if knowone died but if someone does die from a movie goers point of view rather than a fans point of view it would be better for a character we cared about to die rather than someone we wouldnt missYeah but in this case its not a die cause its meaningful, its a die cause we don't like Marsden jumping to do Superman returns when it looked like our franchise was in the crapper so we crunned out a script in a month to keep the rest of the actors from doing so and then Rothman decided he wanted revenge on Singer.

[Timstuff]

I think that the "leaked script review" was definately authentic, but also I believe that it was VERY old. It would be correct to assume that many of the points touched upon by the reviewer have made it into the final script, because we can see that in the trailer. But we can also see many VERY big things that the reviewer didn't even come close to touching upon. He never said anything about Jean/Phoenix ending up back at the Mansion in some kind of "psychic restrictor helmet", or anything about her joining the Brotherhood. There are lots of other little things too, but I won't waste time or space listing them all.

Basically, I think that the script that the guy read had most of the same "spine" as the final script that they eventually came up with, but there were many very signifigant changes and additions made. And one of those things, I am hoping, was that they didn't "demolecularize" Cyclops during the first 10 minutes. And, theres the last act, which not even the script reviewer was able to get his hands on, and no-one knows what's in it.

It is highly possible that Cyclops will be "incapacitated" and left for dead near the start of the film, only to come back and save everyone from Jean/Phoenix in the last act, but personally I think that this would cheapen the character, because he's already been so under-exposed in the previous two movies (plus they had him "dissapear" for most of X2 as well), and also since there should be lots of attention given to the love between Scott and Jean in the film's story, I think it would be a mistake not to have him present for the majority of the film.

But hey, him "dissapearing" at the start of the film and reappearing during the climax is better than him being killed off, even if it would be dissapointing.

[cookiva]

Im thinking Cyke in a coma or MIA until the end of the movie is whats going to happen.

Maybe he falls down in shock to see Jean Grey/ Phoenix appear out of the water, and goes into a coma?

I dunno.

[Tony Stark]

Yeah but in this case its not a die cause its meaningful, its a die cause we don't like Marsden jumping to do Superman returns when it looked like our franchise was in the crapper so we crunned out a script in a month to keep the rest of the actors from doing so and then Rothman decided he wanted revenge on Singer.

Yeah it's very remenicent of what they did to John Ryse Davis on Sliders. John was having battles with the production staff, who all hated him, so they had the character get his brains sucked out become a vegetable and then killed him off.

[ShadowBoxing]

I think that the "leaked script review" was definately authentic, but also I believe that it was VERY old. It would be correct to assume that many of the points touched upon by the reviewer have made it into the final script, because we can see that in the trailer. But we can also see many VERY big things that the reviewer didn't even come close to touching upon. He never said anything about Jean/Phoenix ending up back at the Mansion in some kind of "psychic restrictor helmet", or anything about her joining the Brotherhood. There are lots of other little things too, but I won't waste time or space listing them all.

Basically, I think that the script that the guy read had most of the same "spine" as the final script that they eventually came up with, but there were many very signifigant changes and additions made. And one of those things, I am hoping, was that they didn't "demolecularize" Cyclops during the first 10 minutes. And, theres the last act, which not even the script reviewer was able to get his hands on, and no-one knows what's in it.

It is highly possible that Cyclops will be "incapacitated" and left for dead near the start of the film, only to come back and save everyone from Jean/Phoenix in the last act, but personally I think that this would cheapen the character, because he's already been so under-exposed in the previous two movies (plus they had him "dissapear" for most of X2 as well), and also since there should be lots of attention given to the love between Scott and Jean in the film's story, I think it would be a mistake not to have him present for the majority of the film.

But hey, him "dissapearing" at the start of the film and reappearing during the climax is better than him being killed off, even if it would be dissapointing.My assumption (if there was a change) is that Cyclops will "die" off screen leaving us to wonder what happened to him. It seems as though Wolverine finds his glasses but not him. Also the draft never called for Wolverine to find his glasses. Its quiet possible that Wolverine THINKS Jean Grey has killed Scott and she cannot remember what happened. I also got the impression that Wolverine and Storm split up to go on different missions. One to stop Jean and the other to....maybe FIND someone, someone who could stop Phoenix

Also Jean's powers cannot telekinetically float something when she is not around...and there is no indication she is around. But Magneto can create sustained magnetic fields

[Another_Fool]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5021/12344lf.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Take a look at this. Jacket, normal shirt, looks like a man on a holiday, right? Regular civilian clothes, right? Normal black or dark blue, whatever, jacket with a red/yellowish-tan stripe down it. Now, check his pic on the official mugshots. (Can someone send me the mugshot pic so I can outline them or someone do them for me for visuals?) There is a very noticable gold line directly under his chin that does not appear on his jacket in the lake scene on the teaser. Also, he is wearing a plain shirt in the trailer, while in the mugshot is obviously leather that extends to each side. I can't really tell, but it also looks like there is a hardly noticable zipper line down the middle of it, where in the teaser, his jacket is obviously open, revealing his shirt. Also, don't try and comment about what I'm seeing on the shirt is the red/yellow-ish stripe, as I see a gold colored line, where there the red comes first.


Well look VERY CLOSELY on the promo pic. The collar is the same and the part where the Colored Stripe is CUT OFF from the promo pic. It conveniently fades off on the left side of Cyke. Trust me it is the jacket and not a costume. I'd say the only thing that causes the confusion is the shirt part because it appears shinier in the promo pic. I don't doubt that they're probably trying to make it LOOK like the costume, but it clearly isn't.

His jacket is open in the promo pic too.

Anyway. Whether Cyke dies, lives, or sits on a rocking chair with a can of beer, lets just all hope its a good movie.

[Retroman]

UPDATE
The official site and poster for Marsden's venture in to the animated world is now online. The direct-to-video release Conan Red Nails (2006).

http://www.conanrednails.com/images/splash_01.gif

Site: http://www.conanrednails.com/

[ShadowBoxing]

Well look VERY CLOSELY on the promo pic. The collar is the same and the part where the Colored Stripe is CUT OFF from the promo pic. It conveniently fades off on the left side of Cyke. Trust me it is the jacket and not a costume. I'd say the only thing that causes the confusion is the shirt part because it appears shinier in the promo pic. I don't doubt that they're probably trying to make it LOOK like the costume, but it clearly isn't.

His jacket is open in the promo pic too.

Anyway. Whether Cyke dies, lives, or sits on a rocking chair with a can of beer, lets just all hope its a good movie.Well I am right now on the side of caution and saying that he dies. but Stevie is very astute in noticing this...the jacket is first and foremost black leather...it has a diagonal gold stripe (two actually that appear to be converging into a "V" shape...its his costume

[taintedFB]

It is his costume. I had my doubts at first, but the leather is a different texture. and there is a clear diagonal stripe on the right. The jacket in the scene was smooth with nothing on the right side....

Interesting note about Marsden on a closed set. And notice we still have seen no key scenes with Phoenix. All she does is stand beside MAgneto. I'm sure she will have amazing scenes with Cyke both at the lake and at the end..

PLus, we all know the bartender from X-MEn one is back. My guess, is Cyclops runs into him. What if JEan has no memory of what she did to Cyke. and The bartender finds him passed out or walking around with his eyes closed (Wolvie found the shades). Barteneder could nurse him back to health, then at the end Cyke finds JEan and saves her.

[ShadowBoxing]

It is his costume. I had my doubts at first, but the leather is a different texture. and there is a clear diagonal stripe on the right. The jacket in the scene was smooth with nothing on the right side....

Interesting note about Marsden on a closed set. And notice we still have seen no key scenes with Phoenix. All she does is stand beside MAgneto. I'm sure she will have amazing scenes with Cyke both at the lake and at the end..

PLus, we all know the bartender from X-MEn one is back. My guess, is Cyclops runs into him. What if JEan has no memory of what she did to Cyke. and The bartender finds him passed out or walking around with his eyes closed (Wolvie found the shades). Barteneder could nurse him back to health, then at the end Cyke finds JEan and saves her.in a very odd way...i liked that

[Karea07]

They put his name on the main cast on IMDB now... good news i'm hoping :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

They put his name on the main cast on IMDB now... good news i'm hoping :up:re-he-he-eally....:up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I will say this...Marvel's stocks are plummitting (i'm a shareholder) they cannot risk X3 being a flop...so if Cyclops dying would COST them money...it won't happen

[Endeavor]

Did anyone notice that Storm is carrying Cyclops' visor at the start of the trailer?????! Or are my eyes playing tricks on me???:eek: :confused:

I think it's the glasses, the ones Logan finds telekinetically suspended in mid air while at Alkili Lake.
From what I could piece together this is what happens: Cyclops is in Aliki and something happens to him. Logan gets there after the fact and finds his glasses 'floating', then he heads back to the X-Mansion. When he gets there Storm is in the Danger Room with Colossus, Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat doing a training sim. Logan interrups the simulation and almost gets crushed by debris (which is the scene where we see Storm push him out of the way). They cancel the simulation and Logan hands Ororo the glasses and the scene we see in the begining of the trailer is them walking out of the Danger Room.

[ShadowBoxing]

Cast overview, first billed only: Patrick Stewart (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/).... Professor Charles XavierHugh Jackman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/).... Logan/WolverineIan McKellen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005212/).... Eric Lensherr/MagnetoHalle Berry (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/).... Ororo Munroe/StormFamke Janssen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000463/).... Jean Grey/PhoenixJames Marsden (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005188/).... Scott Summers/Cyclops
Now I am just :confused:

[ShadowBoxing]

I think it's the glasses, the ones Logan finds telekinetically suspended in mid air while at Alkili Lake.
From what I could piece together this is what happens: Cyclops is in Aliki and something happens to him. Logan gets there after the fact and finds his glasses 'floating', then he heads back to the X-Mansion. When he gets there Storm is in the Danger Room with Colossus, Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat doing a training sim. Logan interrups the simulation and almost gets crushed by debris (which is the scene where we see Storm push him out of the way). They cancel the simulation and Logan hands Ororo the glasses and the scene we see in the begining of the trailer is them walking out of the Danger Room.Its Ororo's gloves

[Karea07]

first billed only, and he's before:
Rebecca Romijn .... Mystique
Kelsey Grammer .... Hank McCoy/Beast
Vinnie Jones .... Cain Marko/Juggernaut
Aaron Stanford .... John Allerdyce/Pyro
Daniel Cudmore .... Peter Rasputin/Colossus
Shawn Ashmore .... Bobby Drake/Iceman
Olivia Williams .... Dr. Moira MacTaggart
Ellen Page .... Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat
Shohreh Aghdashloo .... Dr. Kavita Rao

[ShadowBoxing]

first billed only, and he's before:
Rebecca Romijn .... Mystique
Kelsey Grammer .... Hank McCoy/Beast
Vinnie Jones .... Cain Marko/Juggernaut
Aaron Stanford .... John Allerdyce/Pyro
Daniel Cudmore .... Peter Rasputin/Colossus
Shawn Ashmore .... Bobby Drake/Iceman
Olivia Williams .... Dr. Moira MacTaggart
Ellen Page .... Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat
Shohreh Aghdashloo .... Dr. Kavita Raobefore all those people...something is up

[Tony Stark]

UPDATE
The official site and poster for Marsden's venture in to the animated world is now online. The direct-to-video release Conan Red Nails (2006).

http://www.conanrednails.com/images/splash_01.gif

Site: http://www.conanrednails.com/


Oh my! Is that a severed head conan has in his right hand? Evidently this cartoon is not for kids. That's gonna be cool!

[cookiva]

Cast overview, first billed only: Patrick Stewart (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/).... Professor Charles XavierHugh Jackman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/).... Logan/WolverineIan McKellen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005212/).... Eric Lensherr/MagnetoHalle Berry (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/).... Ororo Munroe/StormFamke Janssen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000463/).... Jean Grey/PhoenixJames Marsden (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005188/).... Scott Summers/Cyclops
Now I am just :confused:


Where did you get this from?? IMDB?

[ShadowBoxing]

Where did you get this from?? IMDB?yep...they had him below Roa before

[cookiva]

yep...they had him below Roa before

IMDB is fan submitted, meaning the order some fan puts it up is the order they are posted in. Its just like Wikipedia. I could go there and change up the plot to say Sinister and Apocolypse have mutant babies who eat rocks.

[Endeavor]

Its Ororo's gloves


I'm not so sure of that. I just paused it in the biggest HD version and it could be his glasses.

[Endeavor]

I believe this is the item in question... I could be glasses :
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/Endeavor2/whatisit.jpg

[cookiva]

I believe this is the item in question... I could be glasses :
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/Endeavor2/whatisit.jpg

Now I dont know. The shadows make it look like gloves, but her gloves arent that stiff on the edges....

[batman44]

This may be a stupid question, but is Cyclops going to appear in his X-men uniform in this movie.

[Karea07]

I sure hope so :up: He better.

[taintedFB]

ImDB is fan based, but they don't post the info submitted without checking it out first.

I'm on that site and it took them several weeks to verify my past jobs and one, that I held briefly, could not be verified, so they didn't add it to my credits.

So even if it was fan submitted, they would have had to check with Fox before moving him up...

This is good news guys....

Really looking forward to this movie...

[Daniella]

I still don't belive in his death on this movie... it's too obvious: he die, Wolvie finds his glasses, tell Jean and in the funeral he apears... or in one battle he appears besides Wolvie, who's scared ask about it and he says he came back ??? It's too cliche... come on guys... think about it...

I believe, as some fans too, that he has some bigger things to do in this movie...

Dany

[ShadowBoxing]

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[CapBeerCino]

A little OT -
But doesn't Marsden look just like Tom Cruise in the screaming scene?
I can see him doing just that on Oprah...

I thought he looked like Ben Stiller :O

I thought he looked like James Marsden. Buh dunt dunt

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1344/tomjames2yp.jpg


Cant you see it?

[vanillacyke]

Oh man I'm hillarious :)

[vanillacyke]

Oh man I'm hillarious :)

[ShadowBoxing]

I still don't belive in his death on this movie... it's too obvious: he die, Wolvie finds his glasses, tell Jean and in the funeral he apears... or in one battle he appears besides Wolvie, who's scared ask about it and he says he came back ??? It's too cliche... come on guys... think about it...

I believe, as some fans too, that he has some bigger things to do in this movie...

DanyYa know...as much as what I have to go on...I never trusted the demolecularizing...it seemed to weird or off key...like there was something more to it

[aaron]

Ya know...as much as what I have to go on...I never trusted the demolecularizing...it seemed to weird or off key...like there was something more to it
Yeah i agree and the third act im sure hed come back

[lordofthenerds]

I think that Cyclops will die early in the movie. In his promo pic he isnt wearing a uniform or his visor and all the other X-Men have uniforms. Also in the trailer it slightly indictes that he dies when he screams and his glasses move by themselves towards a stunned looking Wolverine.

[Lord Moufi]

Does Phoenix will kill Cyclops? It bad. Obvious. And I don't believe therer is something bigger in the movie beyond all this. I just want to know how the script writers will explain the Phoenix's attitude with the Brotherhood! And why Cyclops will appear in minor scenes if his position request more presence!!! How? HOW? HOW? HOW? HOW? HOW? HOW? HOW? HOW?

[Timstuff]

I think I'll wait till I actually see the movie. We have no clue what part Cyclops has to play, and I doubt they'd kill him off in such a cheap way so early in the movie without giving his "death" any sort of purpose. I think it's quite possible that he'll "vanish" in the first act and then reappear in the third act, and while another "Cyclops is missing!" plot would be dissapointing to see play out, no Cyke fan can deny that it's at least better than them killing him off altogether.

Maybe Jean will think that Scott is dead and it will make her turn sinister, but then he will show up at the end to try and bring her back? Sure it's cliched, but then again what isn't these days?

[LMason]

I think it's the glasses, the ones Logan finds telekinetically suspended in mid air while at Alkili Lake.
From what I could piece together this is what happens: Cyclops is in Aliki and something happens to him. Logan gets there after the fact and finds his glasses 'floating', then he heads back to the X-Mansion. When he gets there Storm is in the Danger Room with Colossus, Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat doing a training sim. Logan interrups the simulation and almost gets crushed by debris (which is the scene where we see Storm push him out of the way). They cancel the simulation and Logan hands Ororo the glasses and the scene we see in the begining of the trailer is them walking out of the Danger Room.

You're eagle-eyed! That would certainly explain why in the first frame the rest of the team is in black leather uniforms, and Wolverine is wearing blue jeans. Although, it wouldn't explain why Colossus employed the Fastball Special.

[newwaveboy87]

You're eagle-eyed! That would certainly explain why in the first frame the rest of the team is in black leather uniforms, and Wolverine is wearing blue jeans. Although, it wouldn't explain why Colossus employed the Fastball Special.
to help complete their task quicker?
to turn off the Danger Room sequence?
lots of possibilities, not a lot of answers.

[Visionboy]

I think I'll wait till I actually see the movie. We have no clue what part Cyclops has to play, and I doubt they'd kill him off in such a cheap way so early in the movie without giving his "death" any sort of purpose. I think it's quite possible that he'll "vanish" in the first act and then reappear in the third act, and while another "Cyclops is missing!" plot would be dissapointing to see play out, no Cyke fan can deny that it's at least better than them killing him off altogether.

Maybe Jean will think that Scott is dead and it will make her turn sinister, but then he will show up at the end to try and bring her back? Sure it's cliched, but then again what isn't these days?

Even if he does die and disappear he will probably have more screen time and character development than the last two movies.

[ShadowBoxing]

I think that Cyclops will die early in the movie. In his promo pic he isnt wearing a uniform or his visor and all the other X-Men have uniforms. Also in the trailer it slightly indictes that he dies when he screams and his glasses move by themselves towards a stunned looking Wolverine.FOR THE LAST TIME: he is wearing an X-uniform in the promo pic...its black leather and has piping

[ShadowBoxing]

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/9927/whatisit3qb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)
they are gloves

[lordofthenerds]

FOR THE LAST TIME: he is wearing an X-uniform in the promo pic...its black leather and has piping
Well he doesn't have his visor.

[Valorman]

its his costume.colar is differint and their is yellow piping along with the inside of the x beginning downward from his collar

[ShadowBoxing]

its his costume.colar is differint and their is yellow piping along with the inside of the x beginning downward from his collarThank you...I am going insane everytime someone presents misinformation just to further their point

[Visioncore18]

I think it's the glasses, the ones Logan finds telekinetically suspended in mid air while at Alkili Lake.
From what I could piece together this is what happens: Cyclops is in Aliki and something happens to him. Logan gets there after the fact and finds his glasses 'floating', then he heads back to the X-Mansion. When he gets there Storm is in the Danger Room with Colossus, Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat doing a training sim. Logan interrups the simulation and almost gets crushed by debris (which is the scene where we see Storm push him out of the way). They cancel the simulation and Logan hands Ororo the glasses and the scene we see in the begining of the trailer is them walking out of the Danger Room.
well said and beliveable sir

[EndlesIn]

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/9927/whatisit3qb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)
they are gloves


I think they're Gloves too. If you look and the characters closely they aren't sad or crying; their Serious. Look at Wolverines Clothes, he wearing the same clothes as in the Danger room scene; they're heading to the danger room so this scene probably takes place way before Cyclops at the lake.

[ShadowBoxing]

I think they're Gloves too. If you look and the characters closely they aren't sad or crying; their Serious. Look at Wolverines Clothes, he wearing the same clothes as in the Danger room scene; they're heading to the danger room so this scene probably takes place way before Cyclops at the lake.
In Danger Room footage
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6126/gloves9bk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

[flash13]

Cyclops has and always will be my fav:cyclops: :cyclops: orite character in X-Men

[PikaZeroX]

FOR THE LAST TIME: he is wearing an X-uniform in the promo pic...its black leather and has piping

Yeah, uh look closer. It's the same jacket as the trailer.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1457/image17is.jpg
Trailer


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3585/image36lk.jpg
Promo Shot, increased brightness to see the little detail

It's the same

[Karea07]

I don't like that... :down

[ShadowBoxing]

Really stop this debate there is piping on the shirt
http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/5814/image36lk0ff.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

[aaron]

So what does piping mean?

[PikaZeroX]

It's the same jacket :p

It's not a coincidence that his "suit" would have a button in the same exact place. He's not wearing his visor either. The promo picture is just darker.

[DACrowe]

It means it is the only photo and costume Cyke has in the movie because Fox is having them kill Cyke off in the first 5 minutes to get to the actor and give Halle Berry more screentime and our supposed "true comic fan" director Bret Ratner went along with the idea of icing Cyke at the beginning of the DARK PHEONEX SAGA because he is the studio's ***** and doesn't care about faithfullness as much as we believe.

That is what it means.

[ShadowBoxing]

So what does piping mean?Its not the jacket...I own several leather jackets and I can tell you by looking at both their even made of different material
[/URL]
[URL="http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/"]http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/5814/image36lk0ff.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/photosearch/Previews/PLX109117.jpg
Though its zipped all the way up in the top one...these are the same jackets

[aaron]

Or...it could be a ploy to make us believe he will die...all of these things seem to point at his death, its obvious there teasing us

[PikaZeroX]

It's depressing dude, honestly stop trying to convince yourself he's in suit.

He's going out like Johhny Cage in Mortal Kombat Annihilation and it sucks, big time.

[ShadowBoxing]

It's depressing dude, honestly stop trying to convince yourself he's in suit.

He's going out like Johhny Cage in Mortal Kombat Annihilation and it sucks, big time.here is a D#$% leather sampling then
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2605/leather0ra.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)

oh and BTW I am not trying to convince myself he lives...actually if you'd read ANY of my posts on this thread they all say its more likely he will die

[PikaZeroX]

here is a D#$% leather sampling then
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2605/leather0ra.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)

oh and BTW I am not trying to convince myself he lives...actually if you'd read ANY of my posts on this thread they all say its more likely he will die

Yeah, it's pink from the optic blast. Nice try though.

[PikaZeroX]

Try looking at his far left shoulder, its very dark.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, it's pink from the optic blast. Nice try though.nice try I got it from the photo where he is screaming...besides, different texture...different leather...there are distinctly two lines absent

[PikaZeroX]

nice try I got it from the photo where he is screaming...besides, different texture...different leather...there are distinctly two lines absent

O RLY?

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5658/image29is.jpg SUP BLACK JACKET.

[ShadowBoxing]

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/5814/image36lk0ff.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4143/cyclopscompare6li.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

[PikaZeroX]

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/549/image32mh.jpg

That's funny, I don't see that color ANYWHERE on his jacket during the shout scene.

Way to lie.

[ShadowBoxing]

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/549/image32mh.jpg

That's funny, I don't see that color ANYWHERE on his jacket during the shout scene.

Way to lie.get me a clean photo of the cast pic again...

[ShadowBoxing]

First off I never said he would live In fact I said this
Jean Grey does come back, except she’s not that shy, selfless girl learning to find and use her powers anymore. She’s something else entirely, and it’s a doozy. They don’t call her Phoenix, but it’s obvious she is no longer Doctor Grey. She has very little control of her powers at first, too. And when I say very little control, I mean it. Take this first encounter with her when our washed up Cyclops, with full-on scruffy look, decides to risk a trip back to Alkali Lake…
“The water parts.
Something emerges from the center of the lake.
A flicker gets brighter, lighting the lake.
A creature of PURE ENERGY rises from the depths.
It glows like a living star, emanating wave after wave of telekinetic energy.
Scott watches, awestruck, as the star slowly descends, and the maelstrom of gravity passes. As the glow flutters, Scott takes his first step forward.
He is shocked by what he sees in the epicenter:
SCOTT
Jean…?
She is alive. Jean Grey is reborn.
She looks at her limbs, her skin. Stunned, disoriented.
SCOTT (CONT’D)
(muttering)
A dream… Has to be a dream…
But she looks up. She seems real. She blinks, slowly recognizing him, memories flooding back now.
JEAN
(a whisper)
Scott?
Her voice makes him believe. His tears of pain turn to tears of joy. He steps toward her.
SCOTT
How… how could you come back?
Jean looks at her limbs again, feeling her power.
JEAN
(still dazed)
I don’t know.
Scott doesn’t care. He takes her in his arms, and holds her close, hugging tight. He pulls back, looks at her.
JEAN (CONT’D)
Take these off.
She reaches toward his glasses. He reels back, protecting her. She shakes her head, feeling her strength.
JEAN (CONT’D)
Trust me. I can control it.” Except she can’t. The script describes Scott’s skin as “shivering” until he is simply de-molecularized.
Now I am the biggest Cyclops fan here arguably...I have been all my life. I did not remember the script review that well. But I pulled it off the net and am posting it for the second time. I CAN"T ARGUE WITH THIS. Granted it gets things wrong, like Cyclops in a rage was not there. Maybe he does not die (I honestly do not think the funeral was his...that was most likely Xavier or Jean's memorial since Both Scott and Logan are absent). But if he does not die then why did they bother shooting a Scott Alkali lake scene:confused: :(

However I still stand that its a different Jacket...it has nothing to do with whether he lives or dies

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/170/lines8am.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)
right here the first Jacket is Scott's, second in Colossus, third is Wolverine in bright light the bottom one is the Alkali Lake Jacket...they are different. Notice something...I highlighted the lines on the Jackets...they are all the same.

[BMM]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but to me, the official Cyclops photo released looks like a manipulation itself (done by FOX). I think the picture is a combination of Marsden's scene at the lake combined with a picture of his previous X-uniform (which explains the portions of the jacket seen at the lake as well as the traditional X-uniform piping).

If you look at the picture, Marsden's posture isn't even the same as the rest of the cast's . . . he's not looking into the camera, and he has the same grimacing expression on his face as he does at the lake. Also, the lighting doesn't match up. There is no lighting on his face like the rest of the casts . . . nor does the consistency of his picture match with the rest of the cast's.

I'm even willing to bet Marsden hasn't finished his official publicity pics. (possibly due to his conflicting schedule with Superman Returns).

[vanillacyke]

Guys, guys, guys . . . The costume in the promo pic. is soooooo OBVIOUSLY photo shoped. If Cyke were wearing his costume in the film he would be wearing his Visor, its retarded to think "Oh hey I'm gonna go put my uniform on and conviently forget my visor" He does'nt wear a uniform or a visor in the film he dies I can guarantee it. I'm not happy about it either though, I hate that Cyke is getting screwed but we can't do anything about it. He's screwed, were screwed, we just gotta hope someday they'll realize they made a mistake and try to correct it with future films.

[ShadowBoxing]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but to me, the official cyclops photo released looks like a manipulation itself (done by FOX). I think the picture is a combination of Marsden's scene at the lake combined with a picture of his previous X-uniform (which explains the portions of the jacket seen at the lake as well as the traditional X-uniform piping).

If you look at the picture, Marsden's posture isn't even the same as the rest of the casts . . . he's not looking into the camera and he has the same grimacing expression on his face as he does at the lake. Also, the lighting doesn't match up. There is no lighting on his face like the rest of the casts . . . nor does the consistency of his picture match with the rest of the cast's.

I'm even willing to bet Marsden hasn't even finished his official publicity pics. (possibly due to his conflicting schedule with Superman Returns).Its highly possible...It does look manipulated because the colar does seem the connect to the costume

[ShadowBoxing]

Guys, guys, guys . . . The costume in the promo pic. is soooooo OBVIOUSLY photo shoped. If Cyke were wearing his costume in the film he would be wearing his Visor, its retarded to think "Oh hey I'm gonna go put my uniform on and conviently forget my visor" He does'nt wear a uniform or a visor in the film he dies I can guarantee it. I'm not happy about it either though, I hate that Cyke is getting screwed but we can't do anything about it. He's screwed, were screwed, we just gotta hope someday they'll realize they made a mistake and try to correct it with future films.I'll agree with that

[ShadowBoxing]

"What's difficult with Cyclops is that he's very stiff. I had to rely on my voice to convey emotion. When you're surrounded by these great voices like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen, it really helps hone your skills."
This quote strikes me as odd since it suggest he worked with Ian McKellen or Stewart in some scene...but he could just be drawing on past movie memories

[Game Player]

Lets stop talking about his jacket and lets talk about his teeth.

http://www.thexverse.com/assets/gallery/x3/trailers/teaser1/cap024.jpg

He obviously as a couple rotten teeth back there :p

[ShadowBoxing]

Lets stop talking about his jacket and lets talk about his teeth.

http://www.thexverse.com/assets/gallery/x3/trailers/teaser1/cap024.jpg

He obviously as a couple rotten teeth back there :pTell me about it...is his mutant power to get cavities

[aaron]

^ Lol

[aaron]

Has james finished his x-men filming?

cos overall, the movie is being shot in like 3 and a half months, and if james has 2 weeks filming which we know of, maybe another week. thats not too bad for amount of time james spends filming

[Minisinoo]

Right so if you are a lawyer (like I am studying to be) you would know in this instance the burden of proof is not on Scott dying but Scott living. You have to give reasonable evidence why he lives. You merely state the draft may or may not have changed...even though judging by the trailer, little if any has changed. There is no evidence he lives right now. There are conjectures you can make on why you think he may live, but no actually evidence (like say a draft script) to back it up remotely concretely.

(chuckle) Yup, that's pretty much what I'd say.

When dealing with manuscript revisions, one can do MAJOR revisions that do not alter the basic plot arc (and what occurs) at all. Instead a large number of smaller changes are made. For instance, in the script, there's no mention of Scott shooting eyeblasts at the lake. That occurs in the trailer. But that could be a 'cosmetic' change, not a significant change. It doesn't necessarily alter the outcome of the scene, only indicates a slight variation in getting from point A to B.

Another thing, when revising, one can do major revisions to one part of the plot -- change something completely -- and it doesn't affect other parts. So they might have significantly altered The Cure plotline, but altered very little the fate of Cyke. If they say they've done "major revisions," they're not lying. They have. It doesn't necessarily affect Cyclops, however. This is why I said that the fact no one has ever outright denied Cyke's death is worth noting. And, again, something can be "key" without being "large." Those two things are not synonyms.

My own prediction is that Cyclops disappears from the film very early, just as in the draft, and is brought back in some manner in the final act. I simply hope it's done sensibly and not as a quick-fix deus ex machine.

Oh, and thanks to whomever praised my fanfic. I flew past that post, trying to catch up, but did note the compliment. That was very kind. :-) Yes, I am a pretty big fan of both Jean and Cyclops (and Warren and Hank, too -- all of the original five). Grail is my own take on X3, if I didn't have to worry with things like actors' schedules and contract demands, studio execs looking over my shoulder, and budgets. Ah, the joys of writing a novel instead of making a film. ;)

--Minisinoo
The Medicine Wheel: X-Men Fanfiction (http://www.themedicinewheel.net/)

http://www.themedicinewheel.net/novels_files/grailmini_jpg.jpg (http://www.themedicinewheel.net/grail/grail.html)

[ShadowBoxing]

Has james finished his x-men filming?

cos overall, the movie is being shot in like 3 and a half months, and if james has 2 weeks filming which we know of, maybe another week. thats not too bad for amount of time james spends filmingI heard he filmed two weeks and an article suggested he was not done (could be promo shoots and such)...I would like to see that two week thing in writing because I feel someone made it up. He took time off from Superman we know, however I have seen nothing in writing that says during that time all he was doing was filming. I was under the impression he went home for a while before going to Vancouver, but I do not have proof.

[aaron]

I heard he filmed two weeks and an article suggested he was not done (could be promo shoots and such)...I would like to see that two week thing in writing because I feel someone made it up. He took time off from Superman we know, however I have seen nothing in writing that says during that time all he was doing was filming. I was under the impression he went home for a while before going to Vancouver, but I do not have proof.

Hmmm interesting

[Minisinoo]

I heard he filmed two weeks and an article suggested he was not done (could be promo shoots and such)...I would like to see that two week thing in writing because I feel someone made it up. He took time off from Superman we know, however I have seen nothing in writing that says during that time all he was doing was filming. I was under the impression he went home for a while before going to Vancouver, but I do not have proof.

I don't recall the "two weeks" anywhere official, but I do remember a Fox official (Winter? Penn?) saying that most of his scenes were filmed -- but not all, apparently.

As for where he was ... his wife had a baby. He was probably in L.A. on diaper duty. ;)

--Minisinoo
The Medicine Wheel: X-Men Fanfiction (http://www.themedicinewheel.net/)

http://www.themedicinewheel.net/novels_files/grailmini_jpg.jpg (http://www.themedicinewheel.net/grail/grail.html)

[ShadowBoxing]

I don't recall the "two weeks" anywhere official, but I do remember a Fox official (Winter? Penn?) saying that most of his scenes were filmed -- but not all, apparently.

As for where he was ... his wife had a baby. He was probably in L.A. on diaper duty. ;)yeah SN on the boards kept yapping about two weeks...I do not remember anything of the sort

and yeah thats "most" interview was true I have read it

[The Guard]

One more time...

I don't think that's telekinetically suspended. I think he's catching the glasses because Cyclops threw them off to fire optic blasts at something. I'm thinking he just quits, or has already quit, the X-Men, for a while. Makes more sense.

[aaron]

Well the glasses are in the air floating, i think cyclops threw them off and they fell, and jean(maybe) suspends them in mid-air

and how would he just quit for a while without his glasses, he would have to close his eyes all the time or he'd cause too mcuh destruction

[Nimrandir]

No, they are telepathecly suspended. They are almost still.

[ShadowBoxing]

Well the glasses are in the air floating, i think cyclops threw them off and they fell, and jean(maybe) suspends them in mid-air

and how would he just quit for a while without his glasses, he would have to close his eyes all the time or he'd cause too mcuh destructionHe comes back for them silly

Takes off his glasses in anger (Wolverine catches them)
Cyclops: I quit Wolverine, you hear me, I quit
(Storms off in anger)
(comes back two seconds later
Cyclops: I uh...forgot my glasses...kinda turns out I need those to uh see
Wolverine: Yeah right...here ya go...
Cyclops: Thanks
(Stands around in awkward silence)
Wolverine: So you're quiting right
Cyclops: Uh...yeah...so I guess I'll be....
Wolverine: yeah
Cyclops: okay I'm leaving now
Wolverine: Okay
Cyclops: I just came back to get my glasses you know
Wolverine: Yeah, I know
Cyclops: Okay well, have a....good one I guess
Wolverine: yep same to you
(stands around)
Wolverine: Are you gonna leave?
Cyclops: Oh yeah...uh right now
(Cyclops walks off)

[The Geek Vault]

Cyclops can't die. I think he leaves. If you look at him when he takes off his glasses he has a bag on his arm maybe he leaves?

[aaron]

He comes back for them silly

Takes off his glasses in anger (Wolverine catches them)
Cyclops: I quit Wolverine, you hear me, I quit
(Storms off in anger)
(comes back two seconds later
Cyclops: I uh...forgot my glasses...kinda turns out I need those to uh see
Wolverine: Yeah right...here ya go...
Cyclops: Thanks
(Stands around in awkward silence)
Wolverine: So you're quiting right
Cyclops: Uh...yeah...so I guess I'll be....
Wolverine: yeah
Cyclops: okay I'm leaving now
Wolverine: Okay
Cyclops: I just came back to get my glasses you know
Wolverine: Yeah, I know
Cyclops: Okay well, have a....good one I guess
Wolverine: yep same to you
(stands around)
Wolverine: Are you gonna leave?
Cyclops: Oh yeah...uh right now
(Cyclops walks off)

Well how will he be able to come back for them if he cant see without destroying stuff?

[ShadowBoxing]

Well how will he be able to come back for them if he cant see without destroying stuff?what you missed that whole spoof script I wrote...it was a joke

[MsNatchios]

He comes back for them silly

Takes off his glasses in anger (Wolverine catches them)
Cyclops: I quit Wolverine, you hear me, I quit
(Storms off in anger)
(comes back two seconds later
Cyclops: I uh...forgot my glasses...kinda turns out I need those to uh see
Wolverine: Yeah right...here ya go...
Cyclops: Thanks
(Stands around in awkward silence)
Wolverine: So you're quiting right
Cyclops: Uh...yeah...so I guess I'll be....
Wolverine: yeah
Cyclops: okay I'm leaving now
Wolverine: Okay
Cyclops: I just came back to get my glasses you know
Wolverine: Yeah, I know
Cyclops: Okay well, have a....good one I guess
Wolverine: yep same to you
(stands around)
Wolverine: Are you gonna leave?
Cyclops: Oh yeah...uh right now
(Cyclops walks off)

LOL...very Family Guy-esque.

[EndlesIn]

I'm putting scenes together and I think it might go like this:

I think the Pheonix will just knock scott unconsious and after she does Wolverine will enter and find a comatose scott on the ground. As he goes over to help scott he hears Jean say" He needs his glasses" and floats it over to Wolverine then faints. Wolverine carries them both back to the mansion and this takes us to the scene where we saw Jean crying in Logans arm's. She askes Wolverine were scott was and Wolverine tells her he's hurt, Jean then says to him she thinks she might've hurt him and faints away again leadin us to the seen were Professor X is with her and causing her to Blaze through the Door and leave the X-Mansion and joining the botherhood who would give her more sensation.

What do you think?

[vanillacyke]

I'm putting scenes together and I think it might go like this:

I think the Pheonix will just knock scott unconsious and after she does Wolverine will enter and find a comatose scott on the ground. As he goes over to help scott he hears Jean say" He needs his glasses" and floats it over to Wolverine then faints. Wolverine carries them both back to the mansion and this takes us to the scene where we saw Jean crying in Logans arm's. She askes Wolverine were scott was and Wolverine tells her he's hurt, Jean then says to him she thinks she might've hurt him and faints away again leadin us to the seen were Professor X is with her and causing her to Blaze through the Door and leave the X-Mansion and joining the botherhood who would give her more sensation.

What do you think?

I think he's dead.

[ShadowBoxing]

LOL...very Family Guy-esque.thats quite a compliment...thank you so much

[ShadowBoxing]

I think he's dead.It obvious he "dies" and then returns in the third act like most of the third act "rumors" I have heard suggest....hopefully:(

[jaydawg]

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Its just not X-men without Cyclops.

[EndlesIn]

Does he Pheonix have the ability to create life like in the cartoon because Cyclops could die and the Pheonix bring him back as a sorry token for what she has done before leaving.

[ShadowBoxing]

Does he Pheonix have the ability to create life like in the cartoon because Cyclops could die and the Pheonix bring him back as a sorry token for what she has done before leaving.As I say...there are rumors floating around saying just that

[vanillacyke]

Well I have'nt put much thought into the whole "Third Act Return" for Cyke, I suppose its possible but the whole story for Cyke in this film sounds so sleazy.

[Karea07]

Tell me about it...is his mutant power to get cavities

You've never had cavities and fillings when you were younger? I'm sure that will be edited white when the final product is released... :up:

[Demon Within]

Maybe cause its just a trailer it has a few scenes that will never make it to the movie. I have noticed some movies do this, maybe this will happen with his apprarent "death". There screwing with our heads cause they know well jump to conclusions cause of what we read before.

[StevieNicks1988]

I posted this in another thread, so I thought I'd post it here as well:

Well, I checked out the pic on the official website, the mugshot one and compared it to other X-uniforms. My conclusion? It is INDEED gold piping, so it's most likely an X-Uniform. I also, to be fair and biased, got a bunch of my non X-Men fans to look it over, as well as my girlfriend, and then compare it to X-Uniforms from X2: X-Men United. They all agree, it looks like an X-Uniform. But why he doesn't have his visor strikes me silly, unless he just randomly shows up in Act Three to save his friends and save Jean. I've cross checked the mugshot clothing to the clothing in the trailer, and although they appear to look the same, they are infact different as the mugshot picture features a zipped up leather clothing of some sort, that resembles almost incredibly, the X-Uniforms. Another theory I have is that we see Cyke at the lake and we get a scene where he fights 'SOMETHING' but we never see what, and we see him look scared, and we're left with not seeing his death at all, just thinking 'Damn, he's a goner'. Then, in Act Three, we see him reappear and he actually turned up left for dead or something. This could also go along with the Wolvy holding Jean in tears, as Wolvy could say he found Cyke's glasses and Cyke is missing, presumed dead.

[Karea07]

Someone compared his promo pic to his pic in the trailer... i dont think its the costume, its his jacket :(

[StevieNicks1988]

Then please tell me how gold piping got onto it? In the trailer, we clearly see his jacket, yet it's not there. Also, off to the side, the red comes first, not the yellow-ish/gold.

[BMM]

I think the promo picture is a manip. done by FOX combining the scene shot at Alkali Lake and a picture of an X-uniform. This explains the combination of jacket features and gold-piping features . . . also, Marsden's features in the picture (lighting, posture . . . everything) are so out of place with the rest of the cast's. It looks manipulated.

I don't think FOX is finished with Marsden's pics (i.e. Colossus and Mystique, but needed one to publish for the time being).

[WorthyStevens]

I think the promo picture is a manip. done by FOX combining the scene shot at Alkali Lake and a picture of an X-uniform. This explains the combination of jacket features and gold-piping features . . . also, Marsden's features in the picture (lighting, posture . . . everything) are so out of place with the rest of the cast's. It looks manipulated.

I don't think FOX is finished with Marsden's pics (i.e. Colossus and Mystique, but needed one to publish for the time being).

It really doesn't feel like a promo picture. Colossus kinda does, but Mystique doesn't.

[StevieNicks1988]

Also, another picky thing here. The clothing in the mugshot is zipped up leather. In the scenes from the teaser, his jacket is always unzipped, so what? We see Cyclops go into a rage, yelling and shooting his visor, yet he calms down to zip up his jacket cause he gets chilly? WTF.

[ShadowBoxing]

I think the promo picture is a manip. done by FOX combining the scene shot at Alkali Lake and a picture of an X-uniform. This explains the combination of jacket features and gold-piping features . . . also, Marsden's features in the picture (lighting, posture . . . everything) are so out of place with the rest of the cast's. It looks manipulated.

I don't think FOX is finished with Marsden's pics (i.e. Colossus and Mystique, but needed one to publish for the time being).Yeah I agree his neck looks friggin long...gotta be a manip

[StevieNicks1988]

It DOES look thrown together. Maybe they did in fact throw two images of Cyke together?

[ShadowBoxing]

You've never had cavities and fillings when you were younger? I'm sure that will be edited white when the final product is released... :up:only one cavity:up: ever:up: and it was very small

[Minisinoo]

Okay, the discussion of the poor guy's TEETH is silly, but just for the record, there's such a thing as preventive fillings, if the crevices in the back teeth are deep enough, you put in preventive fillings that look exactly like what he's got. How do I know? I have them. I've never had a cavity in my life, but I have silver fillings in my rear molars to prevent getting any.

Comment from the native peanut gallery ... Jimmy looks to me to have Indian teeth. (g) Along with the cheekbones, the mouth, and the general facial shape, and the origin in Oklahoma, I've frequently wondered if he's a part-blood.

(Not that ANY of that has the least bit to do with Cyclops, but since we're on an analyize the minutia kick ...)

[ShadowBoxing]

Okay, the discussion of the poor guy's TEETH is silly, but just for the record, there's such a thing as preventive fillings, if the crevices in the back teeth are deep enough, you put in preventive fillings that look exactly like what he's got. How do I know? I have them. I've never had a cavity in my life, but I have silver fillings in my rear molars to prevent getting any.

Comment from the native peanut gallery ... Jimmy looks to me to have Indian teeth. (g) Along with the cheekbones, the mouth, and the general facial shape, and the origin in Oklahoma, I've frequently wondered if he's a part-blood.

(Not that ANY of that has the least bit to do with Cyclops, but since we're on an analyize the minutia kick ...)actually your observation does have a LOT to do with Cyclops since Scott Summers is part-Native American

[Sparta*]

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Its just not X-men without Cyclops.

Amen brother :up:

[Sparta*]

only one cavity:up: ever:up: and it was very small

Cavity free my whole life :O

[StevieNicks1988]

Well, I have a suggestion. Since it's 50/50 that Cyke turns up in the third act, which a good 70% of rumors about him feature in some sort or another, how about we discuss that instead of making the thread depressing every day?

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, I have a suggestion. Since it's 50/50 that Cyke turns up in the third act, which a good 70% of rumors about him feature in some sort or another, how about we discuss that instead of making the thread depressing every day?Well most of those so called rumors are whipped up by fans who are all in a tither about him possibly biting it in the first place

[Karea07]

I'm sure this was asked before, but frankly I'm not going to look through 67 pages. :p Did Cyclops ever die in the comics? If so, how did that work out and how did he revive or come back to life?

[vanillacyke]

I'm sure this was asked before, but frankly I'm not going to look through 67 pages. :p Did Cyclops ever die in the comics? If so, how did that work out and how did he revive or come back to life?

No, he became one with Apocalypse but never died.

[WorthyStevens]

No, he became one with Apocalypse but never died.

Cyclopalypse.

[ShadowBoxing]

Cyclopalypse.No it was Apocaclops...geez

[vanillacyke]

Is anyone else pissed at the fact that all the Movie websites and X-Men Movie fan sites don't have anything to say about Cyclops, they don't talk about what's going on with him at all and when they get to interview people that are on the film the only question thats ever been asked is if Marsden was in it when everyone allready knew he was. I't Pisses me of BIG TIME!!! I mean why the hell has'nt anybody asked Avi, or Winter, or Kinberg, or whoever why has'nt anyone asked these people "Why are you screwing Cyclops?" huh why why why That's what everyone wants to know thats the million dollar question WHY? STUPID IDIOTS THEY'RE ALL IDIOTS!!!!

[ShadowBoxing]

Is anyone else pissed at the fact that all the Movie websites and X-Men Movie fan sites don't have anything to say about Cyclops, they don't talk about what's going on with him at all and when they get to interview people that are on the film the only question thats ever been asked is if Marsden was in it when everyone allready knew he was. I't Pisses me of BIG TIME!!! I mean why the hell has'nt anybody asked Avi, or Winter, or Kinberg, or whoever why has'nt anyone asked these people "Why are you screwing Cyclops?" huh why why why That's what everyone wants to know thats the million dollar question WHY? STUPID IDIOTS THEY'RE ALL IDIOTS!!!!I would like them to ask that...of course if they don't there may be a reason for that. Could be Marsden is not aloud to answers questions of such a matter, could be there really is an extra surprise in store. The fact that we even HAVE a cast pic that high up, the fact that IMDb moved him up...points to something. What I don't know

[jusblaze21]

down all i have to say iz if xavier dies it would make more sense in my opinion for CYKE to live, fox dont KILL CYKE:down

[Karea07]

they cant expect fans to be happy with the death of two major players...

[Supreme Power]

down all i have to say iz if xavier dies it would make more sense in my opinion for CYKE to live, fox dont KILL CYKE:down
Yeah, they sure as crap both better not die. :mad:

[Karea07]

If either or had to die, is it wrong to say I rather have Xavier die than Cyclops? That way, Cyclops can become the true leader he is. :up:

[MsNatchios]

Is anyone else pissed at the fact that all the Movie websites and X-Men Movie fan sites don't have anything to say about Cyclops, they don't talk about what's going on with him at all and when they get to interview people that are on the film the only question thats ever been asked is if Marsden was in it when everyone allready knew he was. I't Pisses me of BIG TIME!!! I mean why the hell has'nt anybody asked Avi, or Winter, or Kinberg, or whoever why has'nt anyone asked these people "Why are you screwing Cyclops?" huh why why why That's what everyone wants to know thats the million dollar question WHY? STUPID IDIOTS THEY'RE ALL IDIOTS!!!!
Two words: public relations. They skirt around important controversial questions like "Will Cyclops die?" or "Why are you screwing with such a pivotal character from the comic books?" because they know the answer will piss off a lot of rabid fanboys and Cyke fans. Instead they try to distract people with statements like "Halle's back" and "There'll be a hot sex scene", etc. Looks like they've been taking notes from the great politicians of our time.

[ShadowBoxing]

If either or had to die, is it wrong to say I rather have Xavier die than Cyclops? That way, Cyclops can become the true leader he is. :up:I mean it would make sense to have Ororo be the field leader and Cyclops be the new Headmaster:up:

[N_z0]

Sabretooth also had fillings in the X-men teaser and to my knowledge that wasn't editted out in the movie either.

[Supreme Power]

If either or had to die, is it wrong to say I rather have Xavier die than Cyclops? That way, Cyclops can become the true leader he is. :up:

I would agree, if he does become a leader. If he is still relegated to the background.... :down :o

[vanillacyke]

I mean it would make sense to have Ororo be the field leader and Cyclops be the new Headmaster:up:

No way man Cyke should be both. Storm can't lead like Cyke can.

[JustABill]

Grrr. I was just watching the F4 DVD First Look and Avi said Wolverine would be learning to be a leader.

Cykes is a goner :(.

[vanillacyke]

Grrr. I was just watching the F4 DVD First Look and Avi said Wolverine would be learning to be a leader.

Cykes is a goner :(.

Yeah I think everyone is trying to forget Avi said that.

[Sparta*]

I'm pretty sure Cyke will die....which means i'm pretty sure i'm going to be hugely dissapointed with this movie

[Retroman]

Although things look bleakey all could change between now and May. If i remember correctly Singer shot additional Mansion scenes at Shepperton studios only a couple weeks before the movie was released in theatres.

[StevieNicks1988]

Well most of those so called rumors are whipped up by fans who are all in a tither about him possibly biting it in the first place

Yet it brings such a better positive vibe to this thread, instead, look at the bright side of things. Like the fact that even if Marsden didn't shoot for a couple of weeks, he still did sceneS (meaning plural), so it can't just be him standing on a rock screaming at the top of his lungs, then acting like he gets blown away into a zillion tiny pieces or whatever. that would only take up like a days worth of filming, and seems highly unlikely they'd payan actor like Marsden just to come do THAT and then leave when they could just recast him for the death scene. :up:

[psifreek27]

Let's just hope the next trailer has some more cyclops scenes...

::prays::

[Daniella]

Guys, you're so sure that he's going to die that you forget the when Jean died, Scott went away, for a time and then come back... why can't this be the case ???

Just because of one scene in teaser trailer ??? Just because they aren't telling us the truth ??? Come on... teaser trailer is just it, a teaser... we don't know for sure what's happening... they can't tell us the movie...

Dany

[Hulkster]

I hope Marvel could read this,

Please let Cyclops have a bigger role on X-men 3 and besides Wolverine's past has an answer so his reign of terror is over. Personally I don't think X3 will be good because Wolverine "AGAIN" will be the "CENTER" of attention. And the three movies should be called Wolverine Movies and guest starring the X-men. And there's a rumor that there will be a Wolverine spin-off and it's called Wolverine part 4.

And it will REALLY suck if Cyclops will die in X3, In X1 they made Cyclops looks like a geek and in X2 they made him look like a sissy because he got knocked out that easy, and on X3 they will kill him. I just don't get it, Cyclops is the "LEADER" and the very "FIRST" X-men yet he is treated very badly.

[Wolverini]

I really wouldn't have such a problem with Cyclops dieing ... im sorry but thats just the way it is.

What if another director came along and just said Phoenix ORBED Cyclops away to get him out of harms way instead of Cyclops being vaporised? There SOOOOOOO much possibilities , my example sounds bad but it could easily be realised.

[Hulkster]

Of course you wouldn't be disappointed if Cyclops dies because you're a fan of Wolverine alone, but in my case, my favorite is the original X-men.

The two X-men movies are centered on Wolverine's story, so I think it's enough, and they've got to focus on the other X-men like the original 5.

[Wolverini]

Ah , so you tell me just because of a forum name ... im a Wolverini fan? Yet , you have the Hulkster name and are a Cyclops fan.

Names can be deceiving. Im a fan of neither , nor Wolverine or Cyclops. I just like the X-MEN in general :)

[Hulkster]

I have no bad intention when I say you're a Wolverine fan, but I think it's really ridiculous because they treat the other original X-men so bad. This is the first time that the original X-men will be included (Cyclops, Iceman, Jean, Beast & Angel) and yet Wolverine will be the main attraction.

[Quing]

I mean it would make sense to have Ororo be the field leader and Cyclops be the new Headmaster:up:

I could not agree more. That would be great.

[Ions]

Film is still so far away from being released. A torture waiting to find out... :cyclops:

[peteapan]

Cyclops is dead. the teaser gives all away. he isnt at the funeral. he is not seen in an x suit or with a visor, even in the pic of him on website. pheonix floats his glasses towards wolverine. wolverine and storm are seen in x jet with beast in cyclops chair. its disgusting and a damn shame as he is one of the strongest characters in xmen and was never given the chance in the films. disapointing, but its over, the script is basically confirmed by the teaser

[Halcohol]

^^^Or so they would have you believe...

[Hulkster]

Can you give us the link of the script pls.

[Hulkster]

Can you give us the link of the script pls.

Edit: Sorry for double posting, my internet connection is going nuts when I try to hit the quick reply button it doesn't reply and when I hit again my post became double. I'm really sorry, is there a way to delete this.

[Jan Irisi]

Cyclops is dead. the teaser gives all away. he isnt at the funeral. he is not seen in an x suit or with a visor, even in the pic of him on website. pheonix floats his glasses towards wolverine. wolverine and storm are seen in x jet with beast in cyclops chair. its disgusting and a damn shame as he is one of the strongest characters in xmen and was never given the chance in the films. disapointing, but its over, the script is basically confirmed by the teaser

Yeah, right. You are correct there. FOX gave away the whole story in the teaser. Well hell, now there just isn't any reason to see the film now because everything is revealed in the teaser. :rolleyes:

[ShadowBoxing]

Cyclops is dead. the teaser gives all away. he isnt at the funeral. he is not seen in an x suit or with a visor, even in the pic of him on website. pheonix floats his glasses towards wolverine. wolverine and storm are seen in x jet with beast in cyclops chair. its disgusting and a damn shame as he is one of the strongest characters in xmen and was never given the chance in the films. disapointing, but its over, the script is basically confirmed by the teaseryeah you're right and Magneto wins...I mean he frees all the prisoners at Alcatraz, gathers a new and stronger brotherhood, destroys the Golden Gate Bridge and gets Jean. I mean the whole movie is only 30 seconds longer than the trailer, so there is no hope. I have just seen the whole film in 1 minute and 30 seconds :p :rolleyes:

[peteapan]

well its looking like he is gonna die. im not saying what happens in the rest of the filmn but you have to admit its not lookin positive for him

[Hugh'sMrs]

Cyclops is dead. the teaser gives all away. he isnt at the funeral. he is not seen in an x suit or with a visor, even in the pic of him on website. pheonix floats his glasses towards wolverine. wolverine and storm are seen in x jet with beast in cyclops chair. its disgusting and a damn shame as he is one of the strongest characters in xmen and was never given the chance in the films. disapointing, but its over, the script is basically confirmed by the teaser

Actually Storm is in Cyclops' usual seat and Wolverine is in the seat Storm sat in for X1. Beast looks like he's in the flight attendant spot. LOL

[ShadowBoxing]

well its looking like he is gonna die. im not saying what happens in the rest of the filmn but you have to admit its not lookin positive for himthats true

[jusblaze21]

I dont want any of the x-men to die, but i would much rather see xavier go than cyke, i waz searchin through scences from x1 and came upon the scene were scott was talkin to xavier while he waz in a coma because mystique had sabotaged cerebro, and scott says " if anything should happen to u ill take care of them, i hope fox refers to this scene during while finishing this film, it doesnt makes sense to kill of the two charecters who really believe in peace between mutants and humans.

[Daniella]

Actually Storm is in Cyclops' usual seat and Wolverine is in the seat Storm sat in for X1. Beast looks like he's in the flight attendant spot. LOL

Hey, it's good to know that Wolvie lost his fear of flying ( see X2 and you see that when Jean and Storm are flying the jet and trying to get away from the military jets... he agrees with Pyro... :p )

I think that old Cyke gave him some lessons... :p

Dany

[Endeavor]

...I think that old Cyke gave him some lessons... :p

Dany

Oooh no... didnt you know that Wolverine is always the 'best there is at what he does', no matter what it is? He doesn't need any lessons from a boyscout like Cyclops, nooooo :p

I hate the filthy runt

[The Original Bamfer]

OMG!!!1!!!1111! I herd that Cyklops bites teh dust! Is it tru?1!!/? OMG!!1111!

UUI-I47 7I-I3 I-I3(K!!!?

[Endeavor]

GRRRrrrrrrrrr :mad:

[The Original Bamfer]

Wat Wat teh mattur?

[Endeavor]

Wat Wat teh mattur?
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/3618/revenge6jh.gif

Stop rubbing it in :(

[The Original Bamfer]

Haha... sorry, I felt like being an ass... :p

[Game Player]

^^ Lol :)

I don't think Scott will die, the funeral may be for Xavier.

[MsNatchios]

Oooh no... didnt you know that Wolverine is always the 'best there is at what he does', no matter what it is? He doesn't need any lessons from a boyscout like Cyclops, nooooo :p

I hate the filthy runt
Here, here. You can't get more overrated than good ol' Wolvie.

[Daniella]

Oooh no... didnt you know that Wolverine is always the 'best there is at what he does', no matter what it is? He doesn't need any lessons from a boyscout like Cyclops, nooooo :p

I hate the filthy runt

YES!!! Wovie is the best on what he does... and when he's on the jet, the best he does is FREAKING OUT!!! :D :p :D

Dany

[Karea07]

Here, here. You can't get more overrated than good ol' Wolvie.

Exactly. I'm really glad they showed Halle as much Hugh in the teaser. :up:

[americanguy96]

If Cylcops dies, I'll be pretty mad, there's no particular reason for him to die in my opinion, I think he would be much more useful alive. I'm afraid people are going to see this movie, and then think it was Wolverine that helped Jean conquer her problems with her powers. I guess this is what Marsden is getting for going with Singer to Superman? I don't want to start a whole other argument here, but is that really the reason?

[Endeavor]

Thats the excuse.

[Minisinoo]

actually your observation does have a LOT to do with Cyclops since Scott Summers is part-Native American

Well, it was actually more discussion of Marsden than Cyke, but I'm aware he's got some native blood. I tend to make hay with that in my fanfic (being Indian myself). ;) It's fun to write, and the fact that Marsden looks to me as if he may be a part-blood (in some small amount), it's only that much easier ...

[StevieNicks1988]

I still stick by my theory. Why the hell would FOX dish out money to bring Jimmy Marsden back if all he does is have one scene in which he dies, when they could hire a cheap new actor to replace him that doesn't have to have ANY acting experience, just has to stand on a rock, go into a rage, and scream.

[larryfilmmaker]

I'm so furious about this movie. People... Hugh and Halle wanted bigger stories and more screen time and so they were made team leaders. Now, if Xavier and Magneto died in an epic battle at the end that would be great storytelling and it woudl bring up the question "do the X-Men die without Xavier" for a great ending. BUT killing off Cyclops, the first X-Man, and team leader without giving him any decent storylines in the span of 3 movies is absolute bull****. It seems like I take it too seriously but it's because I'm such a fan of the X-Men stories and of filmmaking. I love the idea of the **** hitting the fan in the final movie but I'd rather see Summers and Grey leading the new X-Men than 2 whiney, overrated celebrities. There is such a great story to tell with the Summers Clan and these movies completely missed the chance. No wonder Singer left the clash of the egos for Superman. screw hollywood

[The Guard]

Agreed. He may die. He may disappear. But that isn't all he will do. I'm guessing Cyclops disappears.

[vanillacyke]

I'm so furious about this movie. People... Hugh and Halle wanted bigger stories and more screen time and so they were made team leaders. Now, if Xavier and Magneto died in an epic battle at the end that would be great storytelling and it woudl bring up the question "do the X-Men die without Xavier" for a great ending. BUT killing off Cyclops, the first X-Man, and team leader without giving him any decent storylines in the span of 3 movies is absolute bull****. It seems like I take it too seriously but it's because I'm such a fan of the X-Men stories and of filmmaking. I love the idea of the **** hitting the fan in the final movie but I'd rather see Summers and Grey leading the new X-Men than 2 whiney, overrated celebrities. There is such a great story to tell with the Summers Clan and these movies completely missed the chance. No wonder Singer left the clash of the egos for Superman. screw hollywood

FANTASTIC post!!!!!!

[Downhere]

I'm so furious about this movie. People... Hugh and Halle wanted bigger stories and more screen time and so they were made team leaders. Now, if Xavier and Magneto died in an epic battle at the end that would be great storytelling and it woudl bring up the question "do the X-Men die without Xavier" for a great ending. BUT killing off Cyclops, the first X-Man, and team leader without giving him any decent storylines in the span of 3 movies is absolute bull****. It seems like I take it too seriously but it's because I'm such a fan of the X-Men stories and of filmmaking. I love the idea of the **** hitting the fan in the final movie but I'd rather see Summers and Grey leading the new X-Men than 2 whiney, overrated celebrities. There is such a great story to tell with the Summers Clan and these movies completely missed the chance. No wonder Singer left the clash of the egos for Superman. screw hollywood

Since when has Hugh Jackman been "whiney?" Also, since when did he ask for a bigger part? Wolverine has always been the lead even before they cast Jackman as him.

[larryfilmmaker]

Since when has Hugh Jackman been "whiney?" Also, since when did he ask for a bigger part? Wolverine has always been the lead even before they cast Jackman as him.


go read the interviews where Jackman says he's waiting to make sure they give him something good to do before he'll do X-3. Or read the interview where the guy who played Senator Kelley said that "what we have is a few certain people who weren't famous during the filming of the first movie, but who are famous now... and they're pushing their weight around". Who do you think he meant by that? I've had such little interest in these films because I've seen this coming from miles away. Wolverine was never meant to be the main character. Popularity and marketing did that to him. Xavier, Cyke, and Jean are the heart and soul of the X-Men in any medium but the movies. Go figure.

[Downhere]

go read the interviews where Jackman says he's waiting to make sure they give him something good to do before he'll do X-3.

I have read the interviews but he never said anything in those words. They all said they were waiting for a script before they signed. I don't see the big deal.

[larryfilmmaker]

start changing all the Eddie Guerrero avatars to Cyclops avatars

[Hulkster]

Cyclops is doomed, here is the leaked script. http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

[Eros]

start changing all the Eddie Guerrero avatars to Cyclops avatars


I like cyclops, but besides being a leader he really has nothing going for him. Look cyclops was never the most popular X chaarcter due to his by the book attuide. I like cyclops to, but he really did not do antyhing of any importance [in the movies]to warrant all this. now if wolverine were to die the entire net would be in an uproar...hes just a badass character. somebody had to go, and i think its time storm took up leader role she is a very deep character like wolverine. If cylops dies...im pretty sure none of the other x-men would loose sleep over it [they didn't seem to like him anyway].

[taintedFB]

I still don't think he dies. though he will be MIA for most of the film. I think he is the only way to resolve the Phoenix plot. Because lets face it nobody on the team can defeat her (powerwise).

No matter how much Marsden wanted to do this he wouldn't go from Australia to Vancouver to do practically nothing!

The fact that he had to go to Vancouver more than once proves there's more going on here.

And yes, in X2, they shot scenes up to a few weeks before release... and changed things...

I bet they shot various alternate scenes and will choose which way to go in POST.

[Specter313]

Actually Storm is in Cyclops' usual seat and Wolverine is in the seat Storm sat in for X1. Beast looks like he's in the flight attendant spot. LOL

Where they're sitting on the jet means nothing, really. Storm was in the seat she was in during the trailer everytime they were flying the jet in X2. If anything, Wolverine is sitting in Jean's spot.

[Retroman]

Oooh no... didnt you know that Wolverine is always the 'best there is at what he does', no matter what it is? He doesn't need any lessons from a boyscout like Cyclops, nooooo :p

I hate the filthy runt
It's pretty obvious from the trailer that Cyclops hardly features in this movie.He's no where to be seen in scenes you'd expect to see him being the leader he is.

He's not in the jet (since when can Logan fly?), he's not in the danger room, at the funeral/memorial, nor is he is he the one holding Jean when she awakes.

Marsden signing for 3 other movies is not a good sign. I have despite what the writers say he shot his scenes back in September.

They couldn't even give him a decent promo shot.

[Downhere]

But retro...it could all just be Fox pulling our legs you know. Maybe Ratner has given him some more to do that we don't know about...just a though.

[aaron]

I still don't think he dies. though he will be MIA for most of the film. I think he is the only way to resolve the Phoenix plot. Because lets face it nobody on the team can defeat her (powerwise).

No matter how much Marsden wanted to do this he wouldn't go from Australia to Vancouver to do practically nothing!

The fact that he had to go to Vancouver more than once proves there's more going on here.

And yes, in X2, they shot scenes up to a few weeks before release... and changed things...

I bet they shot various alternate scenes and will choose which way to go in POST.

James wants to do X3 very much, hes a dedicated actor and also a comic book fan

[peteapan]

Credit to james marsden for doing a film where he is killed off. which is just a cop out and plain poor. How much proof is there that the script in which he dies is the final script though? the full trailer will reveal a lot more but they didnt even give cyke a proper visor or let him show his potential power once through the films. Wolvie is always gonna be a fan fav so i got no prob with him but i can see the smirk on halle berrys face now. giving storm a bigger role is saddening when there was so much to explore with the Xmen team leader, especially with the dark pheonix story. We saw storm as the leader when they removed cyke for most of X2 and it wasnt impressive. It could have been a chance to shine and James answering his critics as the end of X2 started too. I still pray for a rethink but i dont think its coming.

[CapBeerCino]

Sabretooth also had fillings in the X-men teaser and to my knowledge that wasn't editted out in the movie either.

Oh yeah, I remember that...:)
But if they wish to edit those fillings why wait? God knows they took their time with the teaser...

[CapBeerCino]

James wants to do X3 very much, hes a dedicated actor

True, he said he'd do x-3 for free

"Will you play Cyclops in X-Men 3?
It’s very complicated. I want nothing more than to be a part of X-Men 3, especially since they’re probably going into the Dark Phoenix saga, which would include my character a lot, but the schedule might conflict. I hope it all works out. I told them I’d do it for free."
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=13096


and also a comic book fan

Not true, he said many times he never read the comics.

[Daniella]

Almost every actor or actress in the movie didn't read the comics...

Dany

[aaron]

I meant comic book fan in general, any comic book fan can respect other titles :)

[aaron]

Do we know what james got paid for x1 and x2?

[Jan Irisi]

Ok, I gotta say something. I've been reading through a few of these threads, and I'm starting to see a disturbing trend. Why, all of a sudden, are people beginning to state that Jackman is a whiner? I mean I can understand folks going on about Halle Berry, it seems harping about her has become an Olympic sport. But Jackman?

Is this because of all this "Cyclops is going to die" stuff? Ok, if you are ticked off about it, why go off on Jackman? It isn't his fault. Out of anyone to complain about being a whiner, a demander, a spoiled Diva...why Jackman?

All morning I have seen "It's all Jackman and Berry...they demanded to be front and center and that's why Marsden is getting the shaft."

Come on people, don't take out your frustration on those who don't deserve it. Yeah, Berry is a target, and it is hard to stop the Juggernaut known as Halle bashing, but Jackman?

When has he ever demanded more screen time?
When has he ever copped an attitude about his role?
When has he ever threatened to not sign for the film if he doesn't get such and such?

When? Where? Do some research before you place blame on him unfairly.

I do not believe Scott ends up as vapor, and I have said as much many times here. And keep in mind I don't even like the character, and I still don't think he will die. Many here have read that supposed "script review" and now refuse to even consider the fact that the review could be wrong. The bottom line here, and I keep repeating it, is that we DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING!!!! Zip, nada, zilch.


Well, I am sorry to have highjacked this thread for a rant, but I just had to say something about this. Please go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Daniella]

I remember hearing that besides the payment, FOX gave for the mainly actors ( Hugh, Patrick, Ian, Famke, James, Ana e Halle ) a bonus of one million dollars for X1...

Dany

[aaron]

Bonus...hehe

as if they dont get enough already

[Electrix]

It was due to the films success I think...the LOTR cast got a bonus also I think

[aaron]

I cant belive stuart townsend was originally aragorn

[Daniella]

Well something ocurred to me when I was looking at your avatar Kol... it's seems that Scott has a two days beard on him... it could mean that he's depressed about Jean... what if this pic is on the funeral day but after the funeral, before he leaves for Alkaly lake ??? So, maybe the funeral is in the begining of the movie and is for Jean, really...

Dany

[LMason]

I hope it all works out. I told them I’d do it for free."


This board keeps mentioning Marsden's quote as if he really would do it for free. This is a figure of speech that's getting taken out of context.

Berry told VLife that she didn't want to get paid to stand around and do nothing, even if they were paying her a lot to stand around and do nothing. So basically, don't waste your money if you care about me. I think that's admirable too.

On X1, the only actor remotely familiar with the X-Men was Tyler Mane.

[Daniella]

Yes, because of his kids...

Dany

[CapBeerCino]

This board keeps mentioning Marsden's quote as if he really would do it for free. This is a figure of speech that's getting taken out of context.

Really? he wouldn't do it for free?:rolleyes: It's a figure of speech to show he cares about the movie and the story telling.

Berry told VLife that she didn't want to get paid to stand around and do nothing, even if they were paying her a lot to stand around and do nothing. So basically, don't waste your money if you care about me. I think that's admirable too.

It is. No doubt she cares. Just see her crying and thanking everyone in her last shoot for x-1 in the x-1.5 extras.

On X1, the only actor remotely familiar with the X-Men was Tyler Mane.[/quote]

Watching the cartoon with his kids. What a sweety :O

[Endeavor]

. now if wolverine were to die the entire net would be in an uproar...hes just a badass character.

I sure as hell would be in an uproar... screaming in joy and laughing 'till my guts exploded :p
somebody had to go, and i think its time storm took up leader role she is a very deep character like wolverine.
Ok so what's with the biased argument here? Storm is a deep character and therefore it is only right that she take up leadership?
Hmm, are you talking about the comics or the movies here? Because if you're talking about the movies then Storm isn't any 'deeper' than Cyclops. She's had only a little more exposition than he has, and that's because in X2 Cyclops was basically non-existant. So that part of your argument falls flat.
If you were talking about the comics then again, you're just expressing your personal view rather than fact. Cyclops is a pivotal character in the comics, with a rich history/background that deserves to be explored as much as Storm's, and his importance as a leader is undisputed even by Storm herself(whenever they're both on a field mission it's Cyclops who takes command).
If cylops dies...im pretty sure none of the other x-men would loose sleep over it [they didn't seem to like him anyway].
What are you talking about? The only bastard who didn't like Cyclops was Wolverine, and that's because he was trying to horn in on his fiance. :down

[peteapan]

The inclusion on angel, beast and Dr.Matagert all point to the possibilty of a cyke return. This theory of him being demolecularised just doesnt sound like he is gonna be completely killed off. Sure if she scortched him then I would fear the worst, but with the money of Warren, the brains of the Dr's and the possiblity of pheonix wanting to reverse what she has done there is no way we can no he dont make a return. If Warren and Scott have the links established in the comic then why wouldnt he want to help out. However his disappearance seems a certainty.

[larryfilmmaker]

I'm not entirely sure Cyke will die. It looks to me like Wolvie will try to talk Phoenix down but she'll go berserk. I think Cyke will disappear and reunite the X-Men after Xavier's death. I also think he'll be the one to talk Phoenix down. It just seems like it's really the only way to go. With Jean bad and Xavier dead, no offense to Storm and Wolvie, but they aren't really the characters whose shoulders it should fall on. I can't see them killing Cyke but if I had to guess... Sabretooth will return, Mystique will die early, Xavier and Magneto will both die, the X-Men will be shattered by Xavier's death and feel as though they've failed, and Cyclops will return and bring them back together just like in the "Return of the King" Ultimate X-Men storyline. I think his return will bring Jean back to the good side. Also, I think Juggernaut and Beast look absolutely retarded. Really, not cool at all.

[ShadowBoxing]

The inclusion on angel, beast and Dr.Matagert all point to the possibilty of a cyke return. This theory of him being demolecularised just doesnt sound like he is gonna be completely killed off. Sure if she scortched him then I would fear the worst, but with the money of Warren, the brains of the Dr's and the possiblity of pheonix wanting to reverse what she has done there is no way we can no he dont make a return. If Warren and Scott have the links established in the comic then why wouldnt he want to help out. However his disappearance seems a certainty.That word even back when the AICN script came out always made me suspicious

[Angry Sentinel]

However his disappearance seems a certainty. It's funny to me that most are just hurt that cyclops dies, and other say...so what's the big deal. When I say that ANY removal of cyclops is a sad, tired, crappy thing. It's not just for the character, but that which the character is integral to.

It's the fact that the movieverse plotline is going to miss out on a real chance to showcase a powerful love story. It all seems so intentional the older you get. I'll say it over and over... I know we love our character's but what would they be without their stories people... WHAT?!

Movie Execs: We want to make a Super Kinetic Epic for X3 because we know that will make ungodly amounts of money!!

Mardsen: Ooh cool, the Phoenix saga is a plotline for Xmen series, I should really get a chance to expand my acting talents and showcase my many emotional expressions.

Movie Execs: *Sees Mardsen and realizes there may be a problem* Ooops I think we lost your contract Mardsen... we'll mail it to you, is this ok?

Mardsen: Uuuuhhh I gues so??
*pushed out of studio, door slams in face*

B Singer: Yes, I will make an epic that drives home true love as opposed to the shallow interpretations commonly seen on the big screen summer blockbusters. I will make all the comic book fans eat their words as I swing the focus onto Scott and Jean for the finality of this series.

Movie Execs (which Ironically includes Jackman now): *Sees Singer* Uumm we havent got your movie contract either.... we'll mail it to you also!
*doesnt wait for response, slams door behind Singer*

Movie Execs: Make sure you let our inside "guy" over at Warner Bros know that Bryan Singer isnt under contract yet.... we're genuises arent we!
*wipes their hands like Pilate did Jesus*

:cyclops:

[Endeavor]

It's funny to me that most are just hurt that cyclops dies, and other say...so what's the big deal. When I say that ANY removal of cyclops is a sad, tired, crappy thing. It's not just for the character, but that which the character is integral to.



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