Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[The Batman]

I liked it Batman! LOL (that was funny reading that out loud)

If only the movie would be like that. *sigh*


Thanks. I hope its like that too, seriously. If we could just have a few minutes of Cyke spitting out some orders like he does in the comics, itd be great.

It'd be cool if when cyclops comes back, he goads wolvie into a fight to get him in a fighting mood like in the proteus books.

[The Batman]

That was a good article. I'm not sure if it makes me more nervous or less nervous. One thing is for sure, I really don't trust Zak Penn, after watching "Incident at Loch ness". Any one else who has seen the movie will understand what I'm talking about.


what happens in it?

[Maze]

I think the best way to really make Jean's final scene have an impact is to have Scott there.
For me , that he is there or not, the most important is that what he meant for her is there ..

It has to be what stop her.....

[TromaFreak64]

They are advertising Cyclops really heavily now.

[The Batman]

For me , that he is there or not, the most important is that what he meant for her is there ..

It has to be what stop her.....


Exactly. If its wolverine that brings her back, i'll be pissed, and it dosent fit with the movies either

[CapBeerCino]

Exactly. If its wolverine that brings her back, i'll be pissed, and it dosent fit with the movies either

OT- but Talia? Why?

[Spidey 2007]

well, here we have yet another rumored running tie of 120 minutes :)

:up: :p

[Maze]

Exactly. If its wolverine that brings her back, i'll be pissed, and it dosent fit with the movies either

Yup.

Btw ,I liked what you wrote :up: : the scene had really a nice "last hope, Cyclopish non nonsense" feel (if that mean anything lol sorry , if my english is not that good ;) )

[fallenAngel]

what happens in it?

It's a mockumentary about some filmmakers going to make a movie about the lochness monster. It's pretty funny, Zak Penn plays himself and is constantly at odds with the director, he keeps wanting to take risks. (think sort of Carl Denham in King Kong). Things eventually go really bad as their ship is stranded and attacked by the monster and Zak Penn steals the dingy in the middle of the night and leaves the rest of the crew to die.

[DarknessOfDeath]

High res blows... had to add blur to jean...

Fine...but she ain't old.

[ginny_weasley]

well, here we have yet another rumored running tie of 120 minutes :)

:up: :p

I noticed that too. Was that a real number in the article? Or just a number the article's author pulled out of the air?

[The Batman]

OT- but Talia? Why?


As much as I love Catwoman, I never really felt she and Bats were meant to be, except as a "Friends with benefits" type thing. Talia, I think, clicks better with Bruce. Plus, I'm a whore for those old Denny O Neil/Neal Adams stories.

But really, if Batman could all those femme fetales....:up:

[The Batman]

Yup.

Btw ,I liked what you wrote :up: : the scene had really a nice "last hope, Cyclopish non nonsense" feel (if that mean anything lol sorry , if my english is not that good ;) )

Thanks. I always like to think up scenes in my head.

Maze, I thought you had some good english. do you live in the US? I thought you did, lol.....

[vanillacyke]

Geeez, Famke is getting old.

[CapBeerCino]

As much as I love Catwoman, I never really felt she and Bats were meant to be, except as a "Friends with benefits" type thing.

I'll call it "artistic disagreement" and leave it at that ;)

[The Batman]

Geeez, Famke is getting old.


I think she looks better in X3 than she does in X2, actually....

[The Batman]

I'll call it "artistic disagreement" and leave it at that ;)


lol, i guess. I did want them to get married and have babies on the 60's tv show. The chemistry between west and newmar was perfect.....

[Maze]

Thanks. I always like to think up scenes in my head.

Maze, I thought you had some good english. do you live in the US? I thought you did, lol.....
Lol Thanks , nope:

I'm French , living in France , Paris ..never visited the states..

my English teacher? comics! lol :up: and some English friends too :)

And you ?Where do you live?

[CapBeerCino]

lol, i guess. I did want them to get married and have babies on the 60's tv show. The chemistry between west and newmar was perfect.....

Too traumatized by "Return to the Batcave" to go there :p

[The Batman]

I live in New Jersey.....Pretty nice....I live next to NYC, so thats good.

[The Batman]

Too traumatized by "Return to the Batcave" to go there :p


lol...yeah, its disgusting when they're old...but on the show....man....something had to be going on between west and newmar in real life....

too bad robin had to screw things up in that one episode where they're about to kiss....

[CapBeerCino]

I live in New Jersey.....Pretty nice....I live next to NYC, so thats good.

I cant believe someone got you off topic... I think that's a first :p

[Maze]

I live in New Jersey.....Pretty nice....I live next to NYC, so thats good.


I heard it was nice :)

i would love to visit the States one day..I know that the reality will be way different but i've dreamt so much about thoses places with Marvel , Dc Comics , and a lot of movies..for example ,i continue to have those images of the arrival of Don Corleone as a child ,in New York Harbor looking in awe at the statue of liberty .....

You know what i love at the Xmen Hype ? is that it is so cosmopolitan ..to see all those people from many country united by the love of the Xmen..it sound silly maybe , but really i find that beautiful..it give some hope imo , that somewhere , people even if they have different cultures can get along..:) :up: (when they don't fight over the running time or the treatment of cyke , etc lol )

[The Batman]

I cant believe someone got you off topic... I think that's a first :p


I cant believe it either....we shoudl get on topic though, i dont want to feel like a hypocrite...About nYc...its good, but too many people walking around and such. I hope you do make it to America someday, maze. Though, in NYc, try not to look too much like a tourist...the natives get mad...

I always lik imagining if the X-Men and other superheroes were real. The last time we were in Nyc, my brother and friends talked about how much they respected Spider-Man for having the balls to leap from such tall buildings...

[ginny_weasley]

IYou know what i love at the Xmen Hype ? is that it is so cosmopolitan ..to see all those people from many country united by the love of the Xmen..it sound silly maybe , but really i find that beautiful..it give some hope imo , that somewhere , people even if they have different cultures can get along..:) :up: (when they don't fight over the running time or the treatment of cyke , etc lol )

Dude, that's awesome :up:

[The Batman]

Yes, that was quite an inspirational post.

I like that X Fans represent the diversity of the books.

[Maze]

How about putting a visor on my face? i just need to work on my accent and i'm ready lol:o

[Maze]

I always lik imagining if the X-Men and other superheroes were real. The last time we were in Nyc, my brother and friends talked about how much they respected Spider-Man for having the balls to leap from such tall buildings...
Lol :up:

Ditto .

As a kid (like 9 or ten) i was convince that mutant do existed , and i convinced a bunch of my friends that they were in fact mutants.that one of them would have one day wings , that another would have fur ,could leap great heights ,and make acrobatics ..and that personnaly i would shoot beams from my eyes of course .:D

[Maze]

Dude, that's awesome :up:
Thanks,

my pleasure :)

[fallenAngel]

I never realized this site was so diverse till recently, when people are speaking portugese and dutch all over the place.

and yeah one reason I like Cyke so much is because he is the X man I resemble most in personality and appearance.

[BMM]

I never realized this site was so diverse till recently, when people are speaking portugese and dutch all over the place . . .

Yeah, I never thought about it too much either . . . but it is very cool once you start thinking about it--to know that you are communicating with multiple people from different countries across the world.

[TromaFreak64]

I never realized this site was so diverse till recently, when people are speaking portugese and dutch all over the place.

and yeah one reason I like Cyke so much is because he is the X man I resemble most in personality and appearance.

I lived in the Netherlands for years....but opted not to participate when I noticed everyone else was already speaking Dutch....and I used to be special....:(...but what the hell...

Mijn hart zal altijd van nederland zijn.

[Kurosawa]

Geeez, Famke is getting old.

It looks like she's robbing the cradle.

[CapBeerCino]

It looks like she's robbing the cradle.

If she was with Scott it would have, Logan in the meanwhile looks her age :o

[eXperiment]

If she was with Scott it would have, Logan in the meanwhile looks her age :o

Agreed

[SCOTT&JEAN]

If she was with Scott it would have, Logan in the meanwhile looks her age :o
Yeah, And that is something that makes a lot of people think that Jean shouldd be with Wolverine. I mean the ones that have only seen the moves and don't know the comic book backround

[TromaFreak64]

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/elwoodc/X3SB_068wm.jpg
how awesome is this pic of cyke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think they over did the optic blast effect though..

So this is part of the press junket that has gone to the media....This same press junket has images of Rogue, Beast, Angel, Storm, Wolverine, Mystique, Professor X (far away Iceman and Pyro), Calliston, and Mags....but basically no Jugs, other minor villians, Kitty or Collosus.

Also I think someone should look into this further. Most of the images in this press release, which Xverse has scored most of, are stills from the film that we have already seen in the trailer, tv spots and released footage and images.

Specificaly Xavier (with Bobby and Pyro), Magneto, Wolverine, Angel and Beast, Angel alone, Storm and Jean. Those ones are clearly images we have already seen simply manipulated with different backgrounds and details. The others look more "promo" material...but its still worth reviewing to confirm.

[tonytr1687]

After reading that article, I'll be even more pissed if Cyke dies at Alkali Lake. Obviously Kinberg and Penn had the chance to take out the stuff they hated when Vaughn left and change it up, so if that crappy death wasnt one of the things they removed...well I just hope they get blasted over at the xverse.

[J.Howlett]

One of the things that pissed me off about the article is the attitude toward Singer a bit. Obviously, Singer and Ratner are different types of directors but don't throw Singer under the bus because he delivered the threads in his two films that allows this final film to be more emotional, more dramatic, and more epic. Give him a bit more respect.

But, it was a good article. And it's clear they've done some heavy, heavy rewritting since Vaughn left.

Does that mean Scott stays alive? Well, if they are truly into the comics and they want to do justice to this alternated Dark Phoenix Storyline, then he has to survive.

[ginny_weasley]

After reading that article, I'll be even more pissed if Cyke dies at Alkali Lake. Obviously Kinberg and Penn had the chance to take out the stuff they hated when Vaughn left and change it up, so if that crappy death wasnt one of the things they removed...well I just hope they get blasted over at the xverse.

Seconded! It sounds like they had plenty of opportunity to make some right calls after all the backlash over the AICN report. Though the way Penn talked about the criticism - commenting on how the AICN script was bad because it made the characters look underdeveloped, and mentioning zip over the fact that Cyke got vaporized as reason for the backlash - kinda frightens me.

[tonytr1687]

One of the things that pissed me off about the article is the attitude toward Singer a bit. Obviously, Singer and Ratner are different types of directors but don't throw Singer under the bus because he delivered the threads in his two films that allows this final film to be more emotional, more dramatic, and more epic. Give him a bit more respect.

But, it was a good article. And it's clear they've done some heavy, heavy rewritting since Vaughn left.

Does that mean Scott stays alive? Well, if they are truly into the comics and they want to do justice to this alternated Dark Phoenix Storyline, then he has to survive.

I dont think they were dissing Singer, I mean they pretty much just said that he had a specific vision which he imposed on the first two movies. Since when is that a bad thing? I did find it kinda funny though how they talked about Ratner letting them have majority control over the script, letting them use their vision. In other words, whether they intended it or not, they were saying that Ratner didnt have a vision. And thats pretty much something I've thought about him since the first Rush Hour: he doesnt really have his own vision when it comes to film, and I dont think thats a good thing. I also find it ridiculous that the two of them keep saying the reason us fans didnt like Ratner is b/c of his personality and public life. BULL****! We didnt like him because besides Red Dragon, all he's done are a bunch of mediocre buddy flicks (Money Talks, Rush Hour 1 and 2), one ****ty caper film (After the Sunset), and a sappy melodrama (Family Man).

[tonytr1687]

Seconded! It sounds like they had plenty of opportunity to make some right calls after all the backlash over the AICN report. Though the way Penn talked about the criticism - commenting on how the AICN script was bad because it made the characters look underdeveloped, and mentioning zip over the fact that Cyke got vaporized as reason for the backlash - kinda frightens me.

Thats true. He did bring up how the AICN reviewer liked a lot of the script...even though that really wasnt the case. He liked a few scenes and some of the relationships and thats it.

[J.Howlett]

Very true about Ratner and his films. Red Dragon worked because of the script and the cast he got. It's a good film, but not a great one. Still, after Red Dragon, Ratner has nothing. But, because he brings films in on time and under budget, that's how he continues to work in the industry and whether we like it or not, the Rush Hour films brought in major bucks.

Even with that, the trailer for X3 shows alot of promise. From the looks of the trailer(and we all know how trailers can be misleading), it still feels like a film directed by Singer but amped up a bit. But given the specific circumstances in the story, it needs to be.

Again, I'm with Ratner just based on that last trailer because it's damn good. But, he still has to deliver on the promise of that trailer.

We'll see.

[tonytr1687]

Very true about Ratner and his films. Red Dragon worked because of the script and the cast he got. It's a good film, but not a great one. Still, after Red Dragon, Ratner has nothing. But, because he brings films in on time and under budget, that's how he continues to work in the industry and whether we like it or not, the Rush Hour films brought in major bucks.

Even with that, the trailer for X3 shows alot of promise. From the looks of the trailer(and we all know how trailers can be misleading), it still feels like a film directed by Singer but amped up a bit. But given the specific circumstances in the story, it needs to be.

Again, I'm with Ratner just based on that last trailer because it's damn good. But, he still has to deliver on the promise of that trailer.

We'll see.

Yeah I agree, my confidence in Ratner went up ten-fold after the second trailer. But then we got the campy Leno clip (sure you can spin it and say the clip was edited to death, but the dialogue and the acting arent gonna change and those too were pretty bad) and some tv spots with a few too many dumb one-liners.

[J.Howlett]

Yeah, the Leno clip was not good but you could tell that it was heavily edited. The TV spots have been pretty good but there are alot of one-liners. The Rogue TV Spot is the absolute best. It felt like the previous two films in terms of tone and emotion. That one gave me hope.

Still, it's still all up in the air, especially with Scott. I just don't see the need to kill him considering the subplot deals with his love.

And I'm not even a Scott fan and I think it's stupid to kill him off.

[tonytr1687]

Yeah, the Leno clip was not good but you could tell that it was heavily edited. The TV spots have been pretty good but there are alot of one-liners. The Rogue TV Spot is the absolute best. It felt like the previous two films in terms of tone and emotion. That one gave me hope.

Still, it's still all up in the air, especially with Scott. I just don't see the need to kill him considering the subplot deals with his love.

And I'm not even a Scott fan and I think it's stupid to kill him off.

It's funny, before X3 I wasnt a big Cyke fan either. I remember after X1 came out I'd argue with ppl over who saved the day: Wolverine or Cyclops? I'd always argue for Wolvie. Now I find myself fighting for Scott as I think killing him off in the first 15 mins of a movie focusing on Dark Phoenix, not to mention taking away any sense of closure for his character (like taking over the school would provide), is a travesty.

[oneteen]

I really think they saved all the shots of Cyke for later, which is now, to cause an uprising in excitement and whatnot.

[ginny_weasley]

It's funny, before X3 I wasnt a big Cyke fan either. I remember after X1 came out I'd argue with ppl over who saved the day: Wolverine or Cyclops? I'd always argue for Wolvie. Now I find myself fighting for Scott as I think killing him off in the first 15 mins of a movie focusing on Dark Phoenix, not to mention taking away any sense of closure for his character (like taking over the school would provide), is a travesty.

I sorta feel the same way.

I'm not a devout fan of Cyke, or even the Xmen in general - but I've read the Dark Phoenix Saga and really enjoyed these movies and some of the comics I've read - and I really feel that killing off Cyke at Alkali Lake is just completely terrible for his character, the Dark Phoenix storyline and the film in general. I can't believe Kinberg and Penn could have (possibly) gotten something so easy to do right so incredibly wrong.

[J.Howlett]

Yeah, it would be a travesty.

Now, if his death is handled properly, I'll be fine with it even though the idea still gets to me. It's not needed. But, if it's handled properly, I'll be okay to enjoy the rest of the film.

I really want this film to do well. X2 made 215 million domestically. I want X3 to at least make 230 million. And with the worldwide gross, this franchise could be up in the 1 billion dollar area in terms of franchises. Very few hit that mark.

[TromaFreak64]

Let's hope.

[tonytr1687]

Yeah, it would be a travesty.

Now, if his death is handled properly, I'll be fine with it even though the idea still gets to me. It's not needed. But, if it's handled properly, I'll be okay to enjoy the rest of the film.

I really want this film to do well. X2 made 215 million domestically. I want X3 to at least make 230 million. And with the worldwide gross, this franchise could be up in the 1 billion dollar area in terms of franchises. Very few hit that mark.

Well...the only way it could be handled properly is if it happens towards the end.

[mustanger405]

Okay I just visited my local Barnes and Noble looking for the new Last stand books that were released as of May 9th. I couldnt find anything. BUT I FOUND SOMETHING VERY VERY INTERESTING. I bought the new starlog magazine which has an 8 page cover story on Xmen The Last Stand and ofcourse the first thing I do is scan it looking for Cyclops info. Well right in the beginning of the article I found some VERY INTERESTING AND ENCOURAGING QUOTES from Hugh Jackman.

Here they are: straight out of the magazine!
If Logan is being groomed to lead the X-Men, what of Cyclops (James Marsden), his former rival for the late Jean Grey (Famke Janseen)? Is Cyclops washed up? Is that triangle now finished? "It's not over with," Jackman flatly says. "And I wouldn't say Cyclops recedes into the backround at all. I think the fans will be shocked by the role that Cyclops plays in this. Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable. It's a side of Cyclops you've never seen before. But as for the direction that he goes in, the fans will have to wait and see. The love triangle is still there, and that remains an issue."

Ok end quote....Now my take on this
This quote is very reincouraging. GUYS....THINK ABOUT IT. The fact that Hugh says at the beginning of the movie, the fans are offered a completely different Cyclops and the direction his charcater goes....well the fans will have to wait and see. Now if Cyclops ends up dying in the first 25min and does not return well then why would Jackman even mention it. AND LET US NOT FORGET....RATNER'S quote that other characters will evolve in this story including Magneto, Xavier and Cyclops. Evolve means turn into something better. Now if Scott just bites the dust in the first 25 min of the movie. How could he evolve??

Okay next quote which is also very thought provoking

"Whats terrific about the script is that every character pays off. It's extremely satisfying. If you're a fan of Storm,Cyclops,Jean Grey-I think the fans know that Dark Phoenix is back in this story-Xavier, Magneto or Bobby, they're all taken foward. And that's no mean feat."

Now this quote also is just FANTASTIC :). I mean how can Cyclop's character pay off in the series if he has an unheroic death such as being accidentally vaporized by Jean in the very beginning of the film only never to be seen again in the movie. Come on its just illogical.

Here are some other quotes from the magazine that should be touched on:

This is a quote about the final battle at Alcatraz:
The magazine first describes the harsh working conditions. Comfortably sheltered in her trailer, Janseen is philosophical. "As you can these arent the most ideal shooting circumstances," she smiles.
Then it goes further into her views of how the movie just looks amazing and it will all be worth it in the end. But here is the quote from Janseen that really caught my eye:
Janseen can't reveal too much about tonight's lensing. "Were only shooting one miniscule moment of this humongous sequence, but everybody's involved in it,: she explians. "Not everybody works together all the time, but when it's done (and cut together), it will look like we were together the entire time. Everything is intertwined."

This just goes to show that they realized that they had to shoot different scenes at different times and put it all together. So it is highly likley that James Marsden's scenes were shot all at once and they intertwined evrything together at the end. I am just thinking of the pic we have of Scott at Alcatraz......I mean I know its not the clearest photo but it most def resembles James Marsden in full battle gear :)

Okay last quote that had me thinking and its from Ben Foster:

But unlike so many of the X-Men, Angel doesnt square off against a specific foe. In fact, when plied with simple questions like whether his character will end up joining the X-Men, Foster laughs and responds, "I can't talk about that element, I signed my life away."

Okay...Now this just goes to show the level of secrecy Fox and Ratner want to keep about this movie. They have kept the vault locked and dont desire it to be opened until May 26th. Just think about the opening scene of X2, Nightcrawler's attack on the whitehouse. Fox and Singer did everything in their power to keep this highly confidential until the movie released. What I am saying is something as huge as Cyclop"s triumphant return at the final battle is not something they are going to make accessbile to the fans. It also goes to show if there is such a level of secrecy about this movie.....why show Cyclop's glasses floating in midair which practically gives away his fate. I def sense a RED HEARING GUYS. I found this article very positive and it took me a while to type this all up. So let me know what you think??

[ginny_weasley]

^^^Squeeee!

sounds promising...

if you can get any scans up that would be great :up:

[Mar420x]

Yea Scans Would B Nice. But Great Find. I Got My Fingers Crossed That Cyclops Doesnt Bite The Dust. Peace.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Mustanger... Can we kiss? hehe okay okay. I was only kidding about that part... but that was a great post. -thinks- any new photos?

[Spidey 2007]

Okay I just visited my local Barnes and Noble looking for the new Last stand books that were released as of May 9th. I couldnt find anything. BUT I FOUND SOMETHING VERY VERY INTERESTING. I bought the new starlog magazine which has an 8 page cover story on Xmen The Last Stand and ofcourse the first thing I do is scan it looking for Cyclops info. Well right in the beginning of the article I found some VERY INTERESTING AND ENCOURAGING QUOTES from Hugh Jackman.

Here they are: straight out of the magazine!
If Logan is being groomed to lead the X-Men, what of Cyclops (James Marsden), his former rival for the late Jean Grey (Famke Janseen)? Is Cyclops washed up? Is that triangle now finished? "It's not over with," Jackman flatly says. "And I wouldn't say Cyclops recedes into the backround at all. I think the fans will be shocked by the role that Cyclops plays in this. Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable. It's a side of Cyclops you've never seen before. But as for the direction that he goes in, the fans will have to wait and see. The love triangle is still there, and that remains an issue."

Ok end quote....Now my take on this
This quote is very reincouraging. GUYS....THINK ABOUT IT. The fact that Hugh says at the beginning of the movie, the fans are offered a completely different Cyclops and the direction his charcater goes....well the fans will have to wait and see. Now if Cyclops ends up dying in the first 25min and does not return well then why would Jacman even mention it. AND LET US NOT FORGET....RATNER'S quote that other characters will evolve in this story including Magneto, Xavier and Cyclops. Evolve means turn into something better. Now if Scott just bites the dust in the first 25 min of the movie. How could he evolve??

Okay next quote which is also very thought provoking

"Whats terrific about the script is that every character pays off. It's extremely satisfying. If you're a fan of Storm,Cyclops,Jean Grey-I think the fans know that Dark Phoenix is back in this story-Xavier, Magneto or Bobby, they're all taken foward. And that's no mean feat."

Now this quote also is just FANTASTIC :). I mean how can Cyclop's character pay off in the series if he has an unheroic death such as being accidentally vaporized by Jean in the very beginning of the film only never to be seen again in the movie. Come on its just illogical.

Here are some other quotes from the magazine that should be touched on:

This is a quote about the final battle at Alcatraz:
The magazine first describes the harsh working conditions. Comfortably sheltered in her trailer, Janseen is philosophical. "As you can these arent the most ideal shooting circumstances," she smiles.
Then it goes further into her views of how the movie just looks amazing and it will all be worth it in the end. But here is the quote from Janseen that really caught my eye:
Janseen can't reveal too much about tonight's lensing. "Were only shooting one miniscule moment of this humongous sequence, but everybody's involved in it,: she explians. "Not everybody works together all the time, but when it's done (and cut together), it will look like we were together the entire time. Everything is intertwined."

This just goes to show that they realized that they had to shoot different scenes at different times and put it all together. So it is highly likley that James Marsden's scenes were shot all at once and they intertwined evrything together at the end. I am just thinking of the pic we have of Scott at Alcatraz......I mean I know its not the clearest photo but it most def resembles James Marsden in full battle gear :)

Okay last quote that had me thinking and its from Ben Foster:

But unlike so many of the X-Men, Angel doesnt square off against a specific foe. In fact, when plied with simple questions like whether his character will end up joining the X-Men, Foster laughs and responds, "I can't talk about that element, I signed my life away."

Okay...Now this just goes to show the level of secrecy Fox and Ratner want to keep about this movie. They have kept the vault locked and dont desire it to be opened until May 26th. Just think about the opening scene of X2, Nightcrawler's attack on the whitehouse. Fox and Singer did everything in their power to keep this highly confidential until the movie released. What I am saying is something as huge as Cyclop"s triumphant return at the final battle is not something they are going to make accessbile to the fans. It also goes to show if there is such a level of secrecy about this movie.....why show Cyclop's glasses floating in midair which practically gives away his fate. I def sense a RED HEARING GUYS. I found this article very positive and it took me a while to type this all up. So let me know what you think??

:up:

*updated graph

http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/5906/cyclopsdebacle7li.jpg

thanks man!:up:

[J.Howlett]

Very promising. The more that comes out in terms of tidbits, the more it points to Scott's return. Because, again, the trailers were pointing out the obvious. And that's not good to point out the obvious.

Scott's gotta return if every character gets a pay off. Scott dying at the hands of his love is not a payoff.

[Savage]

Nice. :) I'm diggin this so far. Maybe we might even get a few iconic Scott and Jean moments.

[ginny_weasley]

Spidey, words cannot express how great that graph is - I may have to steal your idea....:up:

[DarknessOfDeath]

This is a quote about the final battle at Alcatraz:
The magazine first describes the harsh working conditions. Comfortably sheltered in her trailer, Janseen is philosophical. "As you can these arent the most ideal shooting circumstances," she smiles.
Then it goes further into her views of how the movie just looks amazing and it will all be worth it in the end. But here is the quote from Janseen that really caught my eye:
Janseen can't reveal too much about tonight's lensing. "Were only shooting one miniscule moment of this humongous sequence, but everybody's involved in it,: she explians. "Not everybody works together all the time, but when it's done (and cut together), it will look like we were together the entire time. Everything is intertwined."

This just goes to show that they realized that they had to shoot different scenes at different times and put it all together. So it is highly likley that James Marsden's scenes were shot all at once and they intertwined evrything together at the end. I am just thinking of the pic we have of Scott at Alcatraz......I mean I know its not the clearest photo but it most def resembles James Marsden in full battle gear :)


You rule Famke. :up: :up:

[ginny_weasley]

You rule Famke. :up: :up:

Yeah, sounds like she's trying to throw us hints....:up:

[the_scream]

Okay I just visited my local Barnes and Noble looking for the new Last stand books that were released as of May 9th. I couldnt find anything. BUT I FOUND SOMETHING VERY VERY INTERESTING. I bought the new starlog magazine which has an 8 page cover story on Xmen The Last Stand and ofcourse the first thing I do is scan it looking for Cyclops info. Well right in the beginning of the article I found some VERY INTERESTING AND ENCOURAGING QUOTES from Hugh Jackman.

Here they are: straight out of the magazine!
If Logan is being groomed to lead the X-Men, what of Cyclops (James Marsden), his former rival for the late Jean Grey (Famke Janseen)? Is Cyclops washed up? Is that triangle now finished? "It's not over with," Jackman flatly says. "And I wouldn't say Cyclops recedes into the backround at all. I think the fans will be shocked by the role that Cyclops plays in this. Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable. It's a side of Cyclops you've never seen before. But as for the direction that he goes in, the fans will have to wait and see. The love triangle is still there, and that remains an issue."

Ok end quote....Now my take on this
This quote is very reincouraging. GUYS....THINK ABOUT IT. The fact that Hugh says at the beginning of the movie, the fans are offered a completely different Cyclops and the direction his charcater goes....well the fans will have to wait and see. Now if Cyclops ends up dying in the first 25min and does not return well then why would Jacman even mention it. AND LET US NOT FORGET....RATNER'S quote that other characters will evolve in this story including Magneto, Xavier and Cyclops. Evolve means turn into something better. Now if Scott just bites the dust in the first 25 min of the movie. How could he evolve??

Okay next quote which is also very thought provoking

"Whats terrific about the script is that every character pays off. It's extremely satisfying. If you're a fan of Storm,Cyclops,Jean Grey-I think the fans know that Dark Phoenix is back in this story-Xavier, Magneto or Bobby, they're all taken foward. And that's no mean feat."

Now this quote also is just FANTASTIC :). I mean how can Cyclop's character pay off in the series if he has an unheroic death such as being accidentally vaporized by Jean in the very beginning of the film only never to be seen again in the movie. Come on its just illogical.

Here are some other quotes from the magazine that should be touched on:

This is a quote about the final battle at Alcatraz:
The magazine first describes the harsh working conditions. Comfortably sheltered in her trailer, Janseen is philosophical. "As you can these arent the most ideal shooting circumstances," she smiles.
Then it goes further into her views of how the movie just looks amazing and it will all be worth it in the end. But here is the quote from Janseen that really caught my eye:
Janseen can't reveal too much about tonight's lensing. "Were only shooting one miniscule moment of this humongous sequence, but everybody's involved in it,: she explians. "Not everybody works together all the time, but when it's done (and cut together), it will look like we were together the entire time. Everything is intertwined."

This just goes to show that they realized that they had to shoot different scenes at different times and put it all together. So it is highly likley that James Marsden's scenes were shot all at once and they intertwined evrything together at the end. I am just thinking of the pic we have of Scott at Alcatraz......I mean I know its not the clearest photo but it most def resembles James Marsden in full battle gear :)

Okay last quote that had me thinking and its from Ben Foster:

But unlike so many of the X-Men, Angel doesnt square off against a specific foe. In fact, when plied with simple questions like whether his character will end up joining the X-Men, Foster laughs and responds, "I can't talk about that element, I signed my life away."

Okay...Now this just goes to show the level of secrecy Fox and Ratner want to keep about this movie. They have kept the vault locked and dont desire it to be opened until May 26th. Just think about the opening scene of X2, Nightcrawler's attack on the whitehouse. Fox and Singer did everything in their power to keep this highly confidential until the movie released. What I am saying is something as huge as Cyclop"s triumphant return at the final battle is not something they are going to make accessbile to the fans. It also goes to show if there is such a level of secrecy about this movie.....why show Cyclop's glasses floating in midair which practically gives away his fate. I def sense a RED HEARING GUYS. I found this article very positive and it took me a while to type this all up. So let me know what you think??

Sounds like the same old crap to me. Cyclops is different and changes because bw X2 and X3 he's become scruffy and angry. We know he has at least one scene with Wolverine before the lake which is probably about the love triangle angle. In other words, Cyclops does change and has a powerful role but he still die early in the film.

[JustABill]

:rolleyes: If there was one Hypester....geesh.

[LastSunrise1981]

Sounds like the same old crap to me. Cyclops is different and changes because bw X2 and X3 he's become scruffy and angry. We know he has at least one scene with Wolverine before the lake which is probably about the love triangle angle. In other words, Cyclops does change and has a powerful role but he still die early in the film.

I knew a doubter would come in eventually. :rolleyes:

I highly doubt they meant evolve as in the first 25 minutes. Evidently there's more to this than meets the eye. I will believe Famke and Jackman over you anyday of the week. :up:

[mustanger405]

Scream I understand your skepticism but read the quote man Jackman is not referring to the trilogy as a whole. He is saying in the beginning of this film.....the fans will see a completeley different side of Cylops and where he goes from there the fans will have to wait and see. He is basically saying that everyone will have to wait to see how Scott evolves in the movie. If he dies....I cant see why Hugh would even say that fans will have to wait and see. Sorry that is very positive news

Quote : I think the fans will be shocked by the role that Cyclops plays in this. Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable. It's a side of Cyclops you've never seen before. But as for the direction that he goes in, the fans will have to wait and see.

Hell everything I wrote in my original post really gives me a tremendous amount of hope. :)

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Thanks for the quotes mustanger405 .

I am really going to have sweet dreams tonight.

[catintheengine]

Hopefully he'll make it through to the end.

But I suppose if they have to kill him off, I'll have to deal with it. I just hope that if that's the case, he doesn't go out like a punk.

[jusblaze21]

I've always thought that Cyclops will live in this film, I never get my hopes up to high though because I don't want to be like:eek: , If things dont go as I thought. But the movie will out in two weeks and some odd days, So i'll wait until then for Cyke's fate. Thanks for the quotes Mustanger:up: , Makes me even more confident that he will live.

[WorthyStevens]

I have my hands on the new Starlog, and yep, I can verify mustanger's quotes. Not that it needed to. ;)

I'll try and get scans for you guys.

[Star]

:up:

*updated graph

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thanks man!:up:

wow. you've officially been dubbed delusional.

[TromaFreak64]

These quotes inspire hope.

[ginny_weasley]

I have my hands on the new Starlog, and yep, I can verify mustanger's quotes. Not that it needed to. ;)

I'll try and get scans for you guys.

Awesome - scans are always great :up:

[spideyrunner]

Dies in the final battle.

[JDD]

This is so confusing some say he dies others say he lives. In the junior novel it said he die, but I think he lives the movie remember that both are difrent and probably the novel wants to misguide us on thinking he will die.

[the_scream]

Scream I understand your skepticism but read the quote man Jackman is not referring to the trilogy as a whole. He is saying in the beginning of this film.....the fans will see a completeley different side of Cylops and where he goes from there the fans will have to wait and see. He is basically saying that everyone will have to wait to see how Scott evolves in the movie. If he dies....I cant see why Hugh would even say that fans will have to wait and see. Sorry that is very positive news

Quote : I think the fans will be shocked by the role that Cyclops plays in this. Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable. It's a side of Cyclops you've never seen before. But as for the direction that he goes in, the fans will have to wait and see.

Hell everything I wrote in my original post really gives me a tremendous amount of hope. :)

I'd be more confident if he said, "Cyclops has a great action scene with me in the final battle" or something. His quote, like every darn Cyclops info, is very cryptic. When he says "Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable." could he not mean X1? Why are you assuming he means at the start of X3?

[Mike059jig]

why the hell is the love triangle still their??? can't get pass that geessh...maybe he realize's he can't get jean..nevermind^^ and that post above mines as well

[BMM]

. . . saw the various children's books at Albertsons . . . they suck . . . unfortunately, there's nothing new in them at all--and no mention of Cyclops . . . even in the "Fight the Cure" book with Jean's face featured on the cover . . . I glanced at the end and it also still has Wolverine as being the one who kills Jean as he stabs her with his claws . . . blah . . .

[ginny_weasley]

. . . saw the various children's books at Albertsons . . . they suck . . . unfortunately, there's nothing new in them at all--and no mention of Cyclops . . . even in the "Fight the Cure" book with Jean's face featured on the cover . . . I glanced at the end and it also still has Wolverine as being the one who kills Jean as he stabs her with his claws . . . blah . . .

they put that in a children's book!?

[jusblaze21]

. . . saw the various children's books at Albertsons . . . they suck . . . unfortunately, there's nothing new in them at all--and no mention of Cyclops . . . even in the "Fight the Cure" book with Jean's face featured on the cover . . . I glanced at the end and it also still has Wolverine as being the one who kills Jean as he stabs her with his claws . . . blah . . .

That's a lame ending, but I dont think that will happen in the movie.

[Mike059jig]

I going to seriously be cynical if that ending is with logan and jean...that just can't happen..if it does i hope the comic book community doesn't except it

[LastSunrise1981]

I'd be more confident if he said, "Cyclops has a great action scene with me in the final battle" or something. His quote, like every darn Cyclops info, is very cryptic. When he says "Where he's at in the beginning of this X-Men is completely logical and understandable." could he not mean X1? Why are you assuming he means at the start of X3?

Umm, because X1 is done and over with, no reason to go back to that part of the movie and use that as an evolution of Cyclops character.

Why would he be talking about X1? What you typed really makes no sense and kind of makes you lose credibility to an extent. Speak english or break it down into what you're talking about.

[ginny_weasley]

Why do we have to be tortured like this? WHY WHY WHY?

I should be studying for finals. But no: Fox has to keep tormenting us with these hints that Cyke might live, even though he is most likely screwed. We need an answer. Please, please, any and all Fox lurkers - please give us the truth so I don't have a panic attack AND fail my finals in the coming weeks!

[cyke93]

I knew a doubter would come in eventually. :rolleyes:

I highly doubt they meant evolve as in the first 25 minutes. Evidently there's more to this than meets the eye. I will believe Famke and Jackman over you anyday of the week. :up:

upon reading it sounds interesting and promising but im not banking on anything until we see actual photos. anyways, the fact that hugh says the triangle continues still annoys me and it couldjust mean that jean rejects logan because of scott.. if she killed him, y would she move on so fast. .. either way scott lives would still suck for his character, cuz his role is diminished anyways.

[LastSunrise1981]

upon reading it sounds interesting and promising but im not banking on anything until we see actual photos. anyways, the fact that hugh says the triangle continues still annoys me and it couldjust mean that jean rejects logan because of scott.. if she killed him, y would she move on so fast. .. either way scott lives would still suck for his character, cuz his role is diminished anyways.

You're not going to see photos of him at the last battle or any phots outside of the Lake anytime soon, so don't hold your breath my friend. ;) :)

[WorthyStevens]

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[WorthyStevens]

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[jusblaze21]

Thanks for those Scans Worthy.:up:

[WorthyStevens]

No problem blaze. ;)


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[cyke93]

^^ i should've asked to block all photos hehe .. daym i had to see that beast photo

[ZombieONE]

ok i got this from filmfanzine.com in their xmen forum. a guy who goes under "guest" apparently knows a lot of spoilers, i was reading some of his and it seems to follow what we've seen and read.

http://www.filmfanzine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5

here is something he wrote back in december:
ok cyclops is dead, and so may be professor x i not sure...''jean is in her house distraut, and magneto and professor with the x-men try to see her..mag tells her that prof put a mental block in her mind to stop her using her strong powers on people,, she is pissed locks minds with him...phoenix flies awaiting the next person to try to kiss her or mess with her mind so she can vaporise them''...cool yeh maybe he dies, no doubt it i read he is yet again comotosed instead....lol but he may die...storm gets her frea on with wolverine...yep and jean joins the brotherhood against the x-men...rogue goes all spy for the cure for her mutant abilities...i have much more but i won't spoil the film

i dunno bout cyko anymore...

[cyke93]

and jackman saying that cyclops doesnt recede into the background could make sense whether he lives or dies. if he dies, his death will carry huge ramifications. so even though the character is not there, his impact on everyone could .. well whatever.. 2 more finals n i can come here all i want :P

[cyke93]

even that caption is annoying, wolverine was never groomed for leadership. he's always been his own man in the comics. ehh..

[WorthyStevens]

ok i got this from filmfanzine.com in their xmen forum. a guy who goes under "guest" apparently knows a lot of spoilers, i was reading some of his and it seems to follow what we've seen and read.

http://www.filmfanzine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5

here is something he wrote back in december:
ok cyclops is dead, and so may be professor x i not sure...''jean is in her house distraut, and magneto and professor with the x-men try to see her..mag tells her that prof put a mental block in her mind to stop her using her strong powers on people,, she is pissed locks minds with him...phoenix flies awaiting the next person to try to kiss her or mess with her mind so she can vaporise them''...cool yeh maybe he dies, no doubt it i read he is yet again comotosed instead....lol but he may die...storm gets her frea on with wolverine...yep and jean joins the brotherhood against the x-men...rogue goes all spy for the cure for her mutant abilities...i have much more but i won't spoil the film

i dunno bout cyko anymore...

Yeah, that's false. That's from the AICN script.

[fallenAngel]

even that caption is annoying, wolverine was never groomed for leadership. he's always been his own man in the comics. ehh..

I was going to say the same thing. He is now part of the team I would say after X2, but a leader. Fat chance.

This sounds very positive, but it's comming from people in the movie. Jackman saying that the state of Cyclops early in the film different but logical/understandable or whatever, means that he is grieving, perhaps very pissed or just a completley broken man. And I don't want to sound pessimistic, but the direction his character goes in? Only us obsessed nerds have any idea he is supposedly going to die. This is for casual readers I think, more than us. He says people will be shocked, that sounds like a premature death to me.

But it still does sound very positive, I just don't want to go in having convinced myself he lives and then be let down. I can't believe anything until some one either says yes, Cyclops lives or I see it for myself in the theater. After the oval office picture, no photo will satisfy either.

[vanillacyke]

I can't believe what I just read. This really is the news we've all been hoping for. I'm stunned, just speechless and the fact that it's coming from Jackman this is just . . . wow.

[cyke93]

I can't believe what I just read. This really is the news we've all been hoping for. I'm stunned, just speechless and the fact that it's coming from Jackman this is just . . . wow.

It only confirms what we know of cyclosp in the beg. of the movie. He doesn't give any spoilers as to what happens to him in the rest of the movie.

He did say fans of cyclops will be happy, but I have to see it to believe it. I think I am done with the whole death/alive thing. What it comes down to is that him living is just a lesser evil. His role will still be diminished. Logan takes a leadership position and with Jean. Scott comes back in the end and gets the girl, wouldn't make much sense the average viewer considering that jean and cyclops romance was only mentioned in x1 and x2 but not actually fully developed.

[ironmaidenrules]

like anyone at fox or in this movie knows what makes cyke fans happy

....how many more days to go?

[cyke93]

like anyone at fox or in this movie knows what makes cyke fans happy

....how many more days to go?

haha yeah.. they prolly thought we were happy with x2, considering in x1 a couple of people prolly complained that cyclops was too much of a pushover against wolverine n stuff like that .. so they thought by removing him off screen we would have nothing to complain about with him and logan. haha

[fallenAngel]

^ that's the sort of vibe I get from the interview.

I know its hard to believe fox, but not everyone is obsessed with Wolverine.

[the_scream]

Umm, because X1 is done and over with, no reason to go back to that part of the movie and use that as an evolution of Cyclops character.

Why would he be talking about X1? What you typed really makes no sense and kind of makes you lose credibility to an extent. Speak english or break it down into what you're talking about.

Any chance you could try to be polite?

What I am saying is that Jackman could easily be talking about the character's progression from X1 to X3. Why? Well, why not? How is it NOT relevant if Cyclops changes drastically from X1/X2 to X3? Clearly, what we know about Cyclops in X3 is that he is tortured by Jean's death and is presented as scruffy and out of control in the trailers. Now, don't you think this is in stark contrast to the controlled character from X1? So, it is possible Jackman was simply referring to this change in Cyclop's character.

[Retroman]

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Thanks Worthy:up:

[Supreme Power]

It only confirms what we know of cyclosp in the beg. of the movie. He doesn't give any spoilers as to what happens to him in the rest of the movie.

He did say fans of cyclops will be happy, but I have to see it to believe it. I think I am done with the whole death/alive thing. What it comes down to is that him living is just a lesser evil. His role will still be diminished. Logan takes a leadership position and with Jean. Scott comes back in the end and gets the girl, wouldn't make much sense the average viewer considering that jean and cyclops romance was only mentioned in x1 and x2 but not actually fully developed.

I would rather have one than the other though.

[cyke93]

I would rather have one than the other though.

like i said, .. the "lesser evil" would be cyke lives

[Supreme Power]

like i said, .. the "lesser evil" would be cyke lives

Yea, love your sig btw.

[TheVileOne]

All I see is Wolverine and Jean in TV spots and trailers.

Cyclops? All I see is him at Alkali Lake when Phoenix awakens.

Shocking Jackman says? Well I guess some fans will be shocked when Cyclops turns into worm food and then Storm and Wolverine suddenly become the leaders.

[cyke93]

All I see is Wolverine and Jean in TV spots and trailers.

Cyclops? All I see is him at Alkali Lake when Phoenix awakens.

Shocking Jackman says? Well I guess some fans will be shocked when Cyclops turns into worm food and then Storm and Wolverine suddenly become the leaders.

heheh exactly

when he says that cyclops fans will be happy.. he'll refer to the fact that when jean kills him, he doesnt feel any pain. so scott doesn't suffer.. only his fans

[cyke93]

Yea, love your sig btw.

hehe merci beacoup lolz..

[SCOTT&JEAN]

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Thanks Worthy! You're amazing!

[eXperiment]

Yeah thanks Worthy.

[britrogue]

Interesting read! Thanks Worthy

[lordofthenerds]

Great read, thanks Worthy. :up:

[Daniella]

Hey guys... I got my SET ( a brazilian magazine about cinema... ) of May,,, they have an exclusive article about X - men ( they were invited by Brett Ratner for one day of pos - production... there is a pic of Brett, the journalist Roberto Sadovski, Hugh Jackman ans the associated producter David Gorder in the begining if the magazine... so this isn't just afan talking... ( I don't have a scanner to send it up to you guys, but maybe I can find on the net... )

Well, I didn't read all the article yet, but it says two things that called my atention...

About Wolvie: He is the final link of humanity between Jean and Dark Phoenix... ( When I read this, I thought with myself, Cyke will be busted on the movie, but lets hope it isn't it... )

About Cyke: He goes to Alkaly Lake because he's having strange dreams about Phoenix waking up... ( I think that maybe Jean is calling up for him and he knows that she nedds help... that's why he is so... he just want to go to her... )

Dany

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Ooh no. I don't like that at all.


Can you scan the magazine?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Can you scan the magazine?

Read his entire post

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Read his entire post
Ok, sorry. I read it to fast. Again sorry.

[TromaFreak64]

actualy xmd2 already has post and we had people translate Brazil's SET last week. Plus we linked off here to the site.

[TromaFreak64]

If anyone wants to see a kids novel spoiler come true

Go here (http://xmdtrailers.blogspot.com/). Watch spot #12.

They've got some leaks from the novel up over at that site that don't look good either.

[GothicPowerMix1]

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Thanks for scanning

[MaleRogue]

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What did he mean by the rogue thing?
taking care of her???
will she be in the final battle???

[Mike059jig]

Hey guys... I got my SET ( a brazilian magazine about cinema... )
Well, I didn't read all the article yet, but it says two things that called my atention...

About Wolvie: He is the final link of humanity between Jean and Dark Phoenix... ( When I read this, I thought with myself, Cyke will be busted on the movie, but lets hope it isn't it... )

About Cyke: He goes to Alkaly Lake because he's having strange dreams about Phoenix waking up... ( I think that maybe Jean is calling up for him and he knows that she nedds help... that's why he is so... he just want to go to her... )

Dany That doesn't sound good at all...

[WorthyStevens]

All I see is Wolverine and Jean in TV spots and trailers.

Cyclops? All I see is him at Alkali Lake when Phoenix awakens.

Shocking Jackman says? Well I guess some fans will be shocked when Cyclops turns into worm food and then Storm and Wolverine suddenly become the leaders.

Not if they're trying to keep it under wraps...

[wobbly]

If anyone wants to see a kids novel spoiler come true

Go here (http://xmdtrailers.blogspot.com/). Watch spot #12.

They've got some leaks from the novel up over at that site that don't look good either.

Where are the novel leaks?

[Daniella]

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I like what Hugh says about Cyclops... he may not be on the movie a lot, but we still will see him... I don't know how much or when, but this part on the article brought back my hopes about Cyke... ( the paragraph about the love triangle... the third on the left side )

Dany

[berzerko89]

awsome! :) i think wolverines going to ROCK!

[LastSunrise1981]

if cykes dies,then so be it.

james marsden brings nothing to the character.

Really? Is that so? Because his performance at the end during X2 was very emotional and powerful. It really made me feel for Cyclops and Marsden played it brilliantly.

[Aiden]

The Junior novel is based on the first script

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Really? Is that so? Because his performance at the end during X2 was very emotional and powerful. It really made me feel for Cyclops and Marsden played it brilliantly.
Exactly. James was so great in that x-jet scene that he made me cry.

He is a great actor and he fits in Cyclops character perfectly

[taintedFB]

Jimmy was born to play this role and it will probably be what he is most associated with. If anything, I think Singer did a poor job of utilizing him...

Go see Jimmy's other work. He is a GREAT actor...Comedy: Sugar and Spice, really funny....Dramedy: Ally McBeal, Drama: Gossip, Disturbing Behavior, 24th Day.... the guy is awesome!

[TheWeatherMan]

Thanks Worthy! You're amazing!

:up: Yes! Thanks alot!

[DarknessOfDeath]

Jimmy was born to play this role and it will probably be what he is most associated with. If anything, I think Singer did a poor job of utilizing him...

Go see Jimmy's other work. He is a GREAT actor...Comedy: Sugar and Spice, really funny....Dramedy: Ally McBeal, Drama: Gossip, Disturbing Behavior, 24th Day.... the guy is awesome!

Famke was on ally McBeal... i was like whoa... really...and she was wearing a red dress, I think. Never knew Jimmy made an appearance on Ally. COOL!!! man talk about a small world...heh Its funny i mean with all these connections between the X-Men Cast. Famke made an appearance on Star Trek... So she knows Patrick. Alan cumming was in Golden Eye and so was Famke. Halle and Hugh were in a movie together called Swordfish... what else ??

[taintedFB]

Jimmy was actually a regular on Ally McBeal's last season. BUt it only lasted for 13 episodes. He was funny and he sang too. Ally had a crush on him and her fantasies of him were funny... LOL.

Jimmy was also the original Griffin on Party of Five, and he was a regular on Second Noah playing a single teenage dad.

[taintedFB]

Hello?

*echoes....hello......hello..... hello....hello....

where is everyone?

(suddenly realizing I'm all alone, quickly leaves thread*)

[Aiden]

I'm here

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'm here.

[taintedFB]

Cool. So I just read that review on the other thread and I think its fake

[Aiden]

So do I.

He reviewed the TV spots and the Leno clip...

[Kanon]

I have seen more of this movie than this reviewer :p

[taintedFB]

Agreed. Apparently Shawn Ashmore said multiple versions were previewed...

That's worrisome...what if they end up releasing a bad version (where Scott dies) and we'll never know that the alternate ending on the DVD is one where he lives!

[taintedFB]

I think they should have previewed it to die-hard fans and not reviewers who don't know the source material...

[Aiden]

I have seen more of this movie than this reviewer :pWe all have

[taintedFB]

Just read the thread on IMDB. The guy won't discuss Cyclops, but says AFTER the end credits there is a scene in a hospital...

Could it be Cyclops waking up under Nathaniel Essex's care? I hope not. I hope he gets to see Jean in the final battle. Could it be Jean reborn yet again after her apparent death in battle?

God, even non-Fox people aren't discussing Scott. This may be a good sign of a major spoiler. Because I think most people fear the worst when people refuse to discuss it, but I think its because there is more there that is too good to reveal! I mean, what does this guy have to lose by telling us? BTW, he thought it was awesome and effects were fantastic.

Besides, Ashmore said multiple versions.... guess we'll know soon enough...

[StevieNicks1988]

Well, I don't really trust those users over there. I could go post that I pulled a rabbit out of my arse and some people there would believe me.

[WorthyStevens]

I don't know about that review.

Screenings don't start till TOMORROW. And also, the review was WAY too vague.

[taintedFB]

Stevie, any word from your bookstore friend?

Boy, it really bums me out when even normal people refuse to tell what happens. Who are they to decide whether or not WE should know.

[mustanger405]

Tainted can u post a link to the imdb reviewer who talks about this scene in the hospital and wont discuss Cyclops. Please I am very curious

[Kanon]

God, even non-Fox people aren't discussing Scott. This may be a good sign of a major spoiler. Because I think most people fear the worst when people refuse to discuss it, but I think its because there is more there that is too good to reveal! I mean, what does this guy have to lose by telling us? BTW, he thought it was awesome and effects were fantastic.
Yep. The only reason someone would refuse to discuss Cyclops fate, it's because it's a huge spoiler. Either good or bad, it's more than what it seems.

[taintedFB]

unfortunately you have to have an imdb account to view it. its free and you can register. It's in the message board under the film's page. The thread is called ACTUAL RUNNING TIME

[catintheengine]

I'm starting to think that maybe the surprise at the end isn't Cyclops coming back.

I don't know, but I'm kind of hoping that it's the whole cast breaking out in dance to Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight." How awesome would that be?




Beast spinning on his head...classic.



On second thought, Cyclops' return is a little bit more likely.

[pt_photo_inc]

is this thread finally showing a sign of exaustion? When does the ADULT NOVELIZATION come out? Cause that should fire this back up!

[PikaZeroX]

He responded, he said that Cyclops "dies" in the beginning.

But there's a hospital scene at the end of the credits, he said we're on the right track when someone guessed Cyclops and Sinister.

[J.Howlett]

Okay, help me with my X-Men lingo, who the hell is Sinister?

[StevieNicks1988]

Okay. For one, I think this guy is screwing with us. He's probably pulling the 'Gimme attention, I've seen the film' bit. And two, I think the reviewer only saw what we've seen and constructed his own opinion of what happens during what we haven't seen.

[catintheengine]

Okay, help me with my X-Men lingo, who the hell is Sinister?

A bad, bad man.

Unless I'm mistaken he has a power similar to Mystique, and is immortal? Forgive me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I read the DPS.

[Kanon]

Bue didn't he said it would be after the end credits? How many people would stay until then? We fans would, but regular audiences won't. They are not going to show such a crucial scene like that.

[StevieNicks1988]

Yes. Exactly. Nobody EVER stays after the credits where I've lived. I've only witnessed that ONCE and that was because the guy was asleep!

[J.Howlett]

Well, if word gets out, people stay afterwards. I've done it twice.

[taintedFB]

I hope there is a version where Cyclops comes into the final battle. I think it would be cool if we think he dies with Phoenix at the end, then we see he's alive under Sinister's care.

Famke said they shot parts of the final battle with different people and not everyone at once. And the pics of Cyke in uniform AND the writers saying we'll see Cyclops in action suggest more...

I'm convinced he will be thought dead, but I think he'll return during Xavier's funeral (Rogue looking over as Cyclops walks up to the ceremony)

[TheWeatherMan]

Okay, help me with my X-Men lingo, who the hell is Sinister?

Check out this link... it will catch you up on Mr. Sinister...

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Sinister)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/Xmen-theend4.png/250px-Xmen-theend4.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xmen-theend4.png)

[J.Howlett]

Thanks for the link on Sinister....

[StevieNicks1988]

I think the guy is lying out his butt. I wouldn't be surprised if Sinister was shown for a second or hinted at but I think the two things today (IMBD and the review) are completely and utter B.S.

[TheWeatherMan]

Thanks for the link on Sinister....

:up: Anytime...

He is actually a pretty cool villan! I hope he makes it to the big screen because his background is very interesting!!!

[WorthyStevens]

I think the guy is lying out his butt. I wouldn't be surprised if Sinister was shown for a second or hinted at but I think the two things today (IMBD and the review) are completely and utter B.S.

It's the perfect time to post a fake review.

And, I also call bs on his 'advanced' V for Vendetta review.

[TheWeatherMan]

I think the guy is lying out his butt. I wouldn't be surprised if Sinister was shown for a second or hinted at but I think the two things today (IMBD and the review) are completely and utter B.S.

Stevie... where is this review? At IMBD?

[Kanon]

Well, if word gets out, people stay afterwards. I've done it twice.
Only fans would stay if they know for sure something happens after the credits. No regular joe would stay in the theather seeing the credits roll for ten minutes, even if he knows there is something after.

[StevieNicks1988]

Stevie... where is this review? At IMBD?

Here's one;
http://www.fi-sci.com/movies/x-men-3-the-last-stand-2.html

And theres a poster at IMBD who claims he's seen the movie and is giving off 'tidbits' from the movie, which I call as crap.

[StevieNicks1988]

And to whomever asked about the book, I didn't get a chance the other day. Only got a 10 minute break as we were slam-pack full of customers and I had to work a double shift. I will tomorrow though as it'll be a regular day. (And I got today off lol)

[pt_photo_inc]

Well, I don't really trust those users over there. I could go post that I pulled a rabbit out of my arse and some people there would believe me.

they can makes shi*t up just as much as we can!

[taintedFB]

Sinister is by far the coolest villain in the X-Men... And visually he's awesome looking...

[Aiden]

Good stuff Stevie. 15 days until we find out the truth...

[DarknessOfDeath]

He does look cool with those red eyes...reminds me of Grand Admirel Thrawn from the Star Wars novels...he's got red eyes too

[pt_photo_inc]

Check out this link... it will catch you up on Mr. Sinister...

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Sinister)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/Xmen-theend4.png/250px-Xmen-theend4.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xmen-theend4.png)

I love greg lands work!

[taintedFB]

And he had a really cool voice in teh animated series...

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Characters/MrSinister.jpg

AND YES! GREG LAND IS THE GREATEST COMIC BOOK ARTIST EVER! I FOLLOW HIM
FROM TITLE TO TITLE! HIS PHOENIX ENDSONG WORK WAS PHENOMENAL.

[DarknessOfDeath]

And he had a really cool voice in teh animated series...

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Characters/MrSinister.jpg

He looks like an evil Peacock...

[StevieNicks1988]

He also looks like he has Peter Pan's shoes. LOL

[taintedFB]

Hey I didn't design him. But trust me, he's very cool and evil... much ore of a threat than Magneto, in my opinion.

If he does appear in X3, it will be in human form, and I really hope there's an X4.

[DarknessOfDeath]

oh yeah. He does... hmmm maybe he killed peter just to get his shoes. lol

[TromaFreak64]

According to the pages posted at XMD that they are listing as leaked...(but look so similar to the Kids book and I haven't got to compare yet) they make it clear that when Wolverine arrives and the dangeroom scene takes place it is before Cyclops leave for the lake. It reveals Wolverine is a substitute teacher at the school as Storm and Cyclops are the main two teachers and Cyclops is the leader. They get in a fight over the way he behaved and how Wolverine keeps running out on the X-men and she tells him to take his problems up with Cyclops. He finally locates Cyclops as he prepares to leave for the lake....meaning if this is true, Cyclops was wasted and not used in the dangerroom scene.

Also if these pagers are real, we are left to believe again, that Cyclops dies as there is a reference to it late in the book.

[TheWeatherMan]

Sinister is by far the coolest villain in the X-Men... And visually he's awesome looking...

:up: yes he is...

[TromaFreak64]

I wish XMD would respond providing more details cause how can they be LEAKED pages if they are from the offically released Kids book.

[Downhere]

I thought I'd put this here, someone over at IMDB said they "supposedly" saw the film and had this to say about Cyke...


It's a spoiler IF true...so beware...I put the text in white so it won't stand out, just scroll over it to reveal it. I hope it's not true, for now I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Angel has a small role as well. He only has like 2 or 3 scenes. He acts like an angel. He never even fights.

Also since I'll be a God I'll give all the details about Cyclop's fate.

At the beginning he find Jeans at the whatever its called Lake. Something happens, basically the Phoenix part of her comes out. She doesn't switch moods or get mad. She merely causes the entire lake to turn into steam. They don't show this they just cut away. later the rest of the X-men comes and find Jean and take her back. But later Wolverine is asking about where's Scott (Cyclops) and she doesn't say. Later on Professor tells Jean that she killed Scott. It was kind of bogus how they did Cyclops. They just said made it seem like he died and that was that. Also about the scene, in the hospital, after the credits. It does not involve Cyclops. Cyclops is no longer spoken of after that. So, he could be alive when they do a sequel cuz' they didn't actually show his death and Jean didn't say anything about it either. But what else could of happened to him? I think he will no longer be in the films if they continue the series. Like I said before, I hope they just end it here.

[taintedFB]

Okay. Reviewer on IMDB totally bummer me out and I don't believe him now. Although this MAY be one version, I highly doubt this is what we'll see May 26th. I don't know if he's lying or if Fox is actually considering this route... It certainly goes against alot of what we've seen (promos in uniform, Jimmy's quote about filming and the coastume, Hugh's quote about where Cyclops goes, etc...) Oops dulpicating the above post. The quote is right above this in white...

[pt_photo_inc]

And he had a really cool voice in teh animated series...

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Characters/MrSinister.jpg

AND YES! GREG LAND IS THE GREATEST COMIC BOOK ARTIST EVER! I FOLLOW HIM
FROM TITLE TO TITLE! HIS PHOENIX ENDSONG WORK WAS PHENOMENAL.

if you are going to give him career props then it goes to ULTIMATE FANTASTIC 4, zombie issues... where his work was sooo popular that they made a whole spin off of his characters! But that also has a lot to do with MARK MILLARS writting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I follow mark anywhere anytime! THE NEW CIVIL WAR!!!! HOLY FU*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[StevieNicks1988]

:FAKE ALERT: :FAKE ALERT: :GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS:

lol

[Aiden]

BS imo

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yeah and they say Jean isn't in it all that much. what a load of crap.

Famke said she carries most of the emotional weight in this film. Its her movie. Jean's movie. When push comes to shove, I say this review is BS and I stand with what Famke says about her role in this film all the way, especially what Kinberg had said too. She'll blow us away.



Shes the only reason I became more of a royal fan of X-Men. Plus she has a dark side aspect to her, like Anakin had. Plus Famke is really good at what she does and I can't see anyone else playing Jean/Phoenix. Famke has that dark side aspect to her that Even a Guy like me can't resist. The dark side is tempting...it is useless to resist. Its a powerful tool but if you use it to an extent in order to fulfull your needs to become stronger, it'll corrupt you emotionally and destroy the ones you love who care about you. Seductive is another aspect...which unlocks your desire for that person whom you once felt attracted to and felt for...

I think Cykes does live beyond Alkali Lake... he has to... if Logan can't bring her back, then who the hell does? Jar Jar Binks?!? Give me a break.


Anyway... I'll believe it when I see it on May 26th.

[taintedFB]

I know Stevie. I don't believe him. I think everyone involved is well aware of how poorly treated Cyclops was in X2 and they wouldn't do that to the fans again. Especially in the Phoenix story. Yes, he'll be gone for a good part, but even I think its necessary to make Jean go evil... And his return would end her rampage.

Anyone think that Hugh's quote about where Cyclops goes in this film involves him having to kill Jean. I can see it. She sees Scott. Emotional reunion. But she can't control it anymore and begs him to kill her and he ultimately does. That would be shocking and break your heart.

I agree. I personally don't think she'll survive, but I think there has to be a moment where good Jean realizes all she's done and either kills herself or begs Scott to kill her and he does.

[WorthyStevens]

I thought I'd put this here, someone over at IMDB said they "supposedly" saw the film and had this to say about Cyke...


It's a spoiler IF true...so beware...I put the text in white so it won't stand out, just scroll over it to reveal it. I hope it's not true, for now I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Angel has a small role as well. He only has like 2 or 3 scenes. He acts like an angel. He never even fights.

Also since I'll be a God I'll give all the details about Cyclop's fate.

At the beginning he find Jeans at the whatever its called Lake. Something happens, basically the Phoenix part of her comes out. She doesn't switch moods or get mad. She merely causes the entire lake to turn into steam. They don't show this they just cut away. later the rest of the X-men comes and find Jean and take her back. But later Wolverine is asking about where's Scott (Cyclops) and she doesn't say. Later on Professor tells Jean that she killed Scott. It was kind of bogus how they did Cyclops. They just said made it seem like he died and that was that. Also about the scene, in the hospital, after the credits. It does not involve Cyclops. Cyclops is no longer spoken of after that. So, he could be alive when they do a sequel cuz' they didn't actually show his death and Jean didn't say anything about it either. But what else could of happened to him? I think he will no longer be in the films if they continue the series. Like I said before, I hope they just end it here.

It's from IMDb, that's all I need to say.

[TromaFreak64]

I have to be honest....water rising...possibly boiling him to death so no body is left? I prefer the demolecularization....at least it has roots in the comics as Jean manipulate things at the molecular level, and would play out well if Xavier died that way and Wolverine's healing saved him....So if we have to take the root of death....please no boiling water with no clear death....

Interesting though this review goes against the kids novel that says Jean remmebers it...instead Xavier tells her of it? Although Xavier feels it in the book and is greatly impacted it....he does not tell Jean like described above.

[PWN3R]

It's from IMDb, that's all I need to say.

Exactly.

[Downhere]

That dude on IMDB also says this...


Yeah they talk. here's the details. She asks him to take of his classes. He says no cuz' of his powers. She tells him that she can control him. He takes them off and slowly opens his eyes. His eyes are a bright red glow but they slowly start fading and slowly turns into normal green eyes. Then they share an emotional kiss. It's a great scene.

[Aiden]

I'm going to ask a question that could prove whether he was BSing

[WorthyStevens]

That dude on IMDB also says this...


Yeah they talk. here's the details. She asks him to take of his classes. He says no cuz' of his powers. She tells him that she can control him. He takes them off and slowly opens his eyes. His eyes are a bright red glow but they slowly start fading and slowly turns into normal green eyes. Then they share an emotional kiss. It's a great scene.

Oh my god. :p

The dude needs to get more creative.

[Johnny Israel]

There's a quote people use to chant at current WWE Wrestler Paul London that makes me think of Cyclops


"Please Don't Die"

Even if hes in the movie for a short bit, I hope he doesn't bite the dust. I'm not a big fan of the character in the movie or from the comics, or hell even the TV show. But I don't think his death is well served....maybe I'm wrong, who knows. :confused:

[TheVileOne]

So all we can hope for now is Cyke being "killed" at the beginning than a stupid hospital scene at the end?

[WorthyStevens]

So all we can hope for now is Cyke being "killed" at the beginning than a stupid hospital scene at the end?

I guess, if you want to believe that fake review.

[taintedFB]

If FOX kills him I will only see this movie once than watch X1 to feel better...

If he survives, then this will have been an awesome trilogy and I'll see it several times...

I honestly don't believe it. It would be very foolish if the movie played out like that. And Hugh says the Love triangle is still in play. How when Cyke is dead before Logan even sees Jean? He also says Cyclops by no means fades into the background. I think its clear he won't be a major part of any of the major battles, but he'll be there for Jean's end. I feel confident in this and the confidence in which people talk about Cyke suggests more than we know...

[Downhere]

I guess, if you want to believe that fake review.

Actually, the fake review says the hospital scene has nothing to do with Cyke...at least that's what I got from it.

[PikaZeroX]

Turns the lake to Steam? Eh?

Looked pretty filled with water when Logan and Storm get there.

But uh.. Oh god.. Storm clears the fog at Alkali, **** **** *** ********

>:\

[PWN3R]

So all we can hope for now is Cyke being "killed" at the beginning than a stupid hospital scene at the end?

Did you read that review? It is BS. He said Jean, Beast, Colossus, Kitty, and Bobby are barely in the movie. :rolleyes:

And he said Colossus has just about the same scenes as X2. Which hello, he had like barely one scene in X2, and already has more from the tv spots alone.

Plus the FX guy said Colossus fight Juggernaut.

So yes, that review reaks of BS.

[Darthkush]

I thought I'd put this here, someone over at IMDB said they "supposedly" saw the film and had this to say about Cyke...


It's a spoiler IF true...so beware...I put the text in white so it won't stand out, just scroll over it to reveal it. I hope it's not true, for now I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Angel has a small role as well. He only has like 2 or 3 scenes. He acts like an angel. He never even fights.

Also since I'll be a God I'll give all the details about Cyclop's fate.

At the beginning he find Jeans at the whatever its called Lake. Something happens, basically the Phoenix part of her comes out. She doesn't switch moods or get mad. She merely causes the entire lake to turn into steam. They don't show this they just cut away. later the rest of the X-men comes and find Jean and take her back. But later Wolverine is asking about where's Scott (Cyclops) and she doesn't say. Later on Professor tells Jean that she killed Scott. It was kind of bogus how they did Cyclops. They just said made it seem like he died and that was that. Also about the scene, in the hospital, after the credits. It does not involve Cyclops. Cyclops is no longer spoken of after that. So, he could be alive when they do a sequel cuz' they didn't actually show his death and Jean didn't say anything about it either. But what else could of happened to him? I think he will no longer be in the films if they continue the series. Like I said before, I hope they just end it here.

damnit, that had better not be true.:mad: So if Cyke isn't involved in the hospital scene...who is?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Did you read that review? It is BS. He said Jean, Beast, Colossus, Kitty, and Bobby are barely in the movie. :rolleyes:

And he said Colossus has just about the same scenes as X2. Which hello, he had like barely one scene in X2, and already has more from the tv spots alone.

Plus the FX guy said Colossus fight Juggernaut.

So yes, that review reaks of BS.

-crackles- haha ... I knew it.

[TheVileOne]

Did you read that review? It is BS. He said Jean, Beast, Colossus, Kitty, and Bobby are barely in the movie. :rolleyes:

And he said Colossus has just about the same scenes as X2. Which hello, he had like barely one scene in X2, and already has more from the tv spots alone.

Plus the FX guy said Colossus fight Juggernaut.

So yes, that review reaks of BS.

I didn't read the review, I was saying that based off the comments and all the gushing over Sinister in here.

Also I'm looking at the trailers, TV spots, and Jackman's comments. I see no Cyclops anywhere really save for at Alkali lake and the pictures of him sulking around the mansion.

[taintedFB]

Maybe it is fake. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt saying that this may be an alternate version for testing purposes... but maybe he is making the whole thing up!

Oh well, I guess We won't know for sure until the 25th when hopefully our international friends will fill us in..

[TheWeatherMan]

It's from IMDb, that's all I need to say.

LOL

[Aiden]

HAHA

I'm Matt1888

I asked him if he wears a suit and the douche said he didn't!

[Downhere]

I think it's a straight out fake, I don't think they are going to screen an alternate version either because they know critics will base their reviews on this version they see, so I highly doubt Fox would be dumb enough to do that.

[Aiden]

Look at what he just said lol

[PWN3R]

HAHA

I'm Matt1888

I asked him if he wears a suit and the douche said he didn't!

See, didn't James say he wore it?

Plus I asked him if Juggs and Petey fight, if he says no, then we know its BS.

[TheWeatherMan]

So all we can hope for now is Cyke being "killed" at the beginning than a stupid hospital scene at the end?

That's all you can hope for if you believe what those cats have to say. I don't trust them. Whenever you are giving a review you don't say things like "whatever the lake is called" or "something like that...". You are definitive. You are sure about what you are discussing. These guys aren't!

[Aiden]

See, didn't James say he wore it?

Plus I asked him if Juggs and Petey fight, if he says no, then we know its BS.He did indeed

[TheWeatherMan]

See, didn't James say he wore it?

Plus I asked him if Juggs and Petey fight, if he says no, then we know its BS.

Nice avi!!!!

[taintedFB]

Honestly, I doubt theater employees get to sit in on press only screenings... And if he's the projector guy, I don't know how much of the sound and stuff he can hear in there. If he's not the projector guy, he may have ust been in and out. So he may have missed stuff. I don't know...

But I still believe Scott will live and return in uniform to confront Jean one last time.

Also, maybe Xavier telling Jean she killed Scott is another manipulation? We really don't know as much as we think we do.

[PWN3R]

Review is BS. Here is what he said when I asked if they fight.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4625/stara65vz.png

I don't belive Juggernaut and Colossus fight. Would have been good. I do hope they change the Cyclops thing. I like that they kept in open. Cyclops is the man. I hope they cut him back into the theatrical version.

[taintedFB]

If the writers really killed Scott like that they would never be talking to fans on X-verse. They'd change their names and hide.

[WorthyStevens]

Review is BS. Here is what he said when I asked if they fight.

Did you show him the clipping I scanned?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Grrrrrrrrrrrr:mad:

[invincible mann]

there MANY possiblities dont get too excited

[PWN3R]

Did you show him the clipping I scanned?

yup, and I see you did too. :D

He hasn't responded. LOL

[taintedFB]

Maybe there is a 1:44 version with stuff cut out (Scott's return, Colossus v Juggs) and a 144 minute version with Scott alive and Peter v Juggs?

That would explain all the disepancies and confusion. ANd considering theaters are listing three hour gaps between show times, it looks like they went with the longer version where we'll hopefully Scott return in uniform!

[WorthyStevens]

Hmm... I just had a thought.

Does anyone remember the Cyclops/Juggernaut storyboards? Was that created before Jimmy had more time to film, or not?

[gap5ewl]

Maybe there is a 1:44 version with stuff cut out (Scott's return, Colossus v Juggs) and a 144 minute version with Scott alive and Peter v Juggs?

That would explain all the disepancies and confusion. ANd considering theaters are listing three hour gaps between show times, it looks like they went with the longer version where we'll hopefully Scott return in uniform!
i was just thinking...what if they showed the cut up version to cannes where scott doesnt return but then when it is released they put that back in!!!!!!!:eek: that would be the ultimate suprise!

[PWN3R]

On here or IMBD? I barely ever go on IMDB, but had to for this. :D

[lordofthenerds]

Hmm... I just had a thought.

Does anyone remember the Cyclops/Juggernaut storyboards? Was that created before Jimmy had more time to film, or not?
Wasn't it confirmed that those storyboards were for a cut scene from X1?

[PWN3R]

OOO that. Yeah those I thought were from x1?

[WorthyStevens]

Wasn't it confirmed that those storyboards were for a cut scene from X1?

Were they?

I don't remember.

[PikaZeroX]

I thought they were from X2?

Regardless, they weren't from X3.

[taintedFB]

It seems like there are radically different versions of this film!

Talk about leaving your options open!

God, I hope they release a version where Cyke lives. It seems so pointless to kill him. And really limits potential sequels!

[GambitXremy]

that review was ****ing bull****

[lordofthenerds]

that review was ****ing bull****
You mean the IMDB one? Yeah it was was.

[GambitXremy]

hell ya i do. i have never heard anything so stupid in my life

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Yeah, it's obviously FAKE.

[taintedFB]

Maybe not. Maybe this is one of the poorer versions of the film being screened...

But didn't Ashmore say last night's screenings were for select fans not press?

[TromaFreak64]

I believe so....which hurts this mans crediability more. I like how all of us are on IMDB as well....its like a happy little community of cyke fans.

[PikaZeroX]

They better be comic fans.. Last thing we need is for some douche with a Wolverine high telling them that Cyclops should stay dead.

[taintedFB]

That is my real concern. That even if they shot Scott's return in the end, they may end up releasing a version where he doesn't come back...

But honestly, alot of his other claims seem credible. I think the alernate versions WILL revolve around Cyclops return (and his role in Phoenix's death) and whether Rogue takes the cure. And I think there are different cuts of the final battle regarding one on one fights...

But I wouldn't expect any drastic changes beyond that...

[TromaFreak64]

It's interesting that Ashmore has said they shot alternate stuff but the writers have denied it saying everything they shot is in the film and no major changes took place once filming began.

[The Batman]

anyone else think that arclight had something to do with that tidal wave at alkali lake?

[taintedFB]

Maybe ALL the screenings are cut versions of the film so that spoilers aren't revealed before May 26th?

So the filmmakers have all seen the real film but all reviews prior to release won't see any of the surprises and twists. Could also be the reason for the confusion in run time this close to release...

[TromaFreak64]

I don't know, but that is an interesting idea. We know Calisto knows about jean rising, so saying Arclight had something to do with the tidal wave or Psy created an illusion...none of them are that far fetched to me.

[taintedFB]

There's more that happens at Alkali Lake than what is initially shown. I think anything is possible and there maybe a flashback of some of what REALLY occurred there.

I like the idea of Cyclops being in a coma after falling back on his head at the lake and waking up and showing up at the battle late.

[Spidey 2007]

Maybe ALL the screenings are cut versions of the film so that spoilers aren't revealed before May 26th?

So the filmmakers have all seen the real film but all reviews prior to release won't see any of the surprises and twists. Could also be the reason for the confusion in run time this close to release...


yes yes.... didnt some other movies do this aswell? for some reason its picking at my head that there were other movies that hid the major spiolers before their release date...


but intresting thought

[TromaFreak64]

I do too...gosh what will we all do once we know what happens....soon

[The Original Bamfer]

Anyone still have hope?

[WorthyStevens]

Anyone still have hope?

That Cyke lives?

Yes sir.

[Aiden]

I do

[Kanon]

Anyone still have hope?
I think Cyke lives, but I wouldn't call it hope, since I don't care if dies or not :p

[xwolverine2]

I do
...not

[PikaZeroX]

I still have plenty of hope, anytime I'm thinking twice I just remember Marsden was availible and on set when they were shooting the final battle.

Maybe they were just shooting promos, I don't know, but that's an awful waste if he's not there. Hopefully the fans really let their voices be heard!

[Aiden]

...notthink that Cyke won't live

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Anyone still have hope?
I have.