Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[PWN3R]

I would like to say to FOX what Captain America said to Commander Hill in Civil War #1.

"Damn you to hell for this."


The end.

[ZombieONE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/new.jpg

[pt_photo_inc]

The SPECIAL TWIST ENDING to X3
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7514/cyclopsbed5zq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)
Cyclops:Oh my Go*.... what a horrible dream......geez

AH! i hate JOE MAD art! and he is taking of the ULTIMATES!

[PWN3R]

AH! i hate JOE MAD art! and he is taking of the ULTIMATES!

His sketches for it don't look to bad....

[pt_photo_inc]

I would like to say to FOX what Captain America said to Commander Hill in Civil War #1.

"Damn you to hell for this."


The end.



isnt CIVIL WAR possibly the best CROSSOVER since AGE OF APOCOLYPSE!!!!! i know it still early to tell but for one we have MARK MILLAR writting it and one of the best set ups ever! and an entire marvel comic team killed in the first 6 pages!

[jmao]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/new.jpg


LOL i love that

[PWN3R]

I would like to say to FOX what Captain America said to Commander Hill in Civil War #1.

"Damn you to hell for this."


The end.

The Captain knows best. :mad:

[Hulkster]

Very nice manip.

LONG LIVE CYCLOPS

[JustABill]

Man. I still can't believe that it's more than likely true....

He's dead guys. He's dead. And if he is there better be a damn scene of Storm/Xavier/Wolverine/Rogue, surviving characters mourning him. He better be mourned damn it!

[Hulkster]

I hope Cyclops does not die.:(

[pt_photo_inc]

HEHEHEHE... majik lives in a fairy tale of happy thoughts

[jmao]

AH! i hate JOE MAD art! and he is taking of the ULTIMATES!

whats so bad about that picture? it looks pretty good

[jmao]

so if there was nipples, would it be worthy of praise?

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

OT: How many posts are needed for avatars and how dou you upload them?

300

So you have enough.

It needs to be 50x50 pixels though, I believe.

Go into your User CP, there will be an avatar section, and you can upload a 50x50 pixel image off your computer as an avatar, or use one of the Hype's pre-made ones.

[vanillacyke]

I will never see another film by Fox, Kinberg, or Penn! That's a fact. I will not be seeing this film I swear to GOD I will not see this film, I'm not about to watch the queerest interpretation of the X-MEN and the destruction of Cyclops. Rothman, Penn, Kinberg kiss my ****ING Ass you ****suckers. Burn in hell. I'm done and gone now, To my fellow Cyke fans I bid thee farewell and I hope you get a Cyclops you will all be able to accept, I know I won't so I am in fact done here, I refuse to look at anymore information regarding this movie, I have hit my limit and will NEVER see this film EVER, I know no matter what I will be dissapointed so I will simply stick with the comics, I know they will never let me down. Goodbye

[Octoberist]

It's not like Kinberg was a 'wonderful' writer in the first place. I can say the samething about Ratner, though he still has a lot to prove cuz he's Captain Generic Director.

[catintheengine]

I will never see another film by Fox, Kinberg, or Penn! That's a fact. I will not be seeing this film I swear to GOD I will not see this film, I'm not about to watch the queerest interpretation of the X-MEN and the destruction of Cyclops. Rothman, Penn, Kinberg kiss my ****ING Ass you ****suckers. Burn in hell.

Wow...uh...I really hope you don't take the movie too personally.

[jmao]

I was just joking. I just don't like how they made him so muscley. He looks too big for what I think Cyclops should be.

really? i thought he looked not as muscley from what he used to look
i just found this thing on google
http://1st5xmen.tripod.com/images/themes/cyclops.jpg
hes alot wider before

[Octoberist]

I hate that one artist. What's his name? The guy who co-founded Image...I forgot his name. He created Deadpool, who was a ripoff of Deathstroke.

He did X-Force I think.

I mean, this guy is bad. His characters have the same poses, all have large torsos, and no elbows...yuck.

[martinbluther]

OK...I'm at the point where if this happens, there were two great X-films... is our next hope a live-action series of the original 5, following the whole comic series, with Claremont and sci-fi people in charge? How could this not be a hit?

[Retroman]

I'm curious about this storybord artwork. Was this a sequence they envisioned at Alctraz?

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3668/3750040main0wv.jpg

[BMM]

I hate that one artist. What's his name? The guy who co-founded Image...I forgot his name. He created Deadpool, who was a ripoff of Deathstroke.

He did X-Force I think.

I mean, this guy is bad. His characters have the same poses, all have large torsos, and no elbows...yuck.

Rob Liefeld.

[jmao]

i don't see your image but if it's the one from the animated series version, tat was still too bulky for me.

I always hated Deadpool's character too

my bad... im too lazy to find another.. he was bigger before.. is my point...

[pt_photo_inc]

I don't live in fairy tale of happy thoughts, i i did the movies would be much more different. :D

i never really give into speculation, i just like the conversation

OT: How many posts are needed for avatars and how dou you upload them?

you are good for one now! go get em tiger!

[pt_photo_inc]

whats so bad about that picture? it looks pretty good

i just cant stand that artist... he did one good book... battle chasers, other than that, i like a lil more realism.. especially in a title like the ULTIMATES

[pt_photo_inc]

Wow...uh...I really hope you don't take the movie too personally.

damn it! why did you quote someone on my ignore list... just reminding me why i put that fuc*ker there in the first place! Makes me angry

[pt_photo_inc]

but i forgive you.

[Octoberist]

Rob Liefeld.

that's the guy. Awful artist. Maybe he was a novelty back in the 90s, but yuck..

[pt_photo_inc]

I hate that one artist. What's his name? The guy who co-founded Image...I forgot his name. He created Deadpool, who was a ripoff of Deathstroke.

He did X-Force I think.

I mean, this guy is bad. His characters have the same poses, all have large torsos, and no elbows...yuck.

rob liefield or marc silvestri? cause they both can suck a cock for all i care... they are sooo set in thier ways... they need to move outside of their bubbles!

my artist are
CHRIS BACHELO
STEVE MCNIVEN
JAMES JEAN
LIENEL YU
GREG LAND
BRYAN HITCH
BRANDON PETERSON


those are basically the ones i follow.

[Retroman]

Jeez...no one answer my question?:(

[pt_photo_inc]

sorry RM... never seen it before! It looks like a fan fake

[catintheengine]

damn it! why did you quote someone on my ignore list... just reminding me why i put that fuc*ker there in the first place! Makes me angry

Wait...I'm on your ignore list (which, I guess you really wouldn't see this), or the guy I quoted....Oh ok...lol...I get it.

[chi-boy]

Cyke should be mortally wounded in battle, and gives his approval to Wolverine right before dying.

[pt_photo_inc]

CHI BOY YOU RULE!


I am sooo seeing monty python holy grail!

Wolverine: "Cyclops, you will not have died in vain!"
CYCLOPS: "Actually im not dead!"
Wolverine: "Ok... cyclops! You will not have been mortally wounded in va-"
CYCLOPS: "Actually i think i might be alright."
Wolverine: "really?" SNIKT

[martinbluther]

I mentioned something like this a while ago. I would watch it every episode as long as it's not like 'Mutant X'

Well, regardless of which of us requested it first, I'm with you... TO THE SCI-Fi NEtwork! (Sorry for the caps)

[Retroman]

sorry RM... never seen it before! It looks like a fan fake
No worries man.:) It's actually NOT fan made. That was a piece done by storyboard artist named Federico D'Alessandro (currently working on I Am Legend.

Link: http://www.thefilmartist.com/Pages/New_Sections/Film_Page.html

It resembles Alctraz and the danger room scenery a bit.

[jmao]

im still gonna say cyclops doesnt die... i think hes just lost and/or unconscious somewhere... and he'll return... not in the end.. maybe x5 or something or x4...
or maybe he ran off... cause he did leave the xmen for a while after jean died in the comics

[pt_photo_inc]

i hope he does come back as long as JAMES DOES PLAY HIM...... some where down the line i dont mind seeing him again. I just dont care what happens to him far as for the sake of cyclops...more for the sake of MARSDEN! love that boy!

[martinbluther]

I'll be a little pissed if they wrote his character leaving the X-Men but I'd be happy he doesn't die. It would go with comic storylines so I'm fine with it. I saw the clip with Famke on one of those Late shows and to me, her body language wasn't upset but she didn't want people thinking they're walking into a Logan/Jean movie.

Well, if worse comes to worst, let's circle the wagons for a live-action series...

After the comics, and their somewhat long run, did we think that they were going to do it complete justice? My only regret is that they missed so much of what was true Hollywood Golden Hour for some focus group crap. The source material her was SO RIPE for adaptation. Is there a Razzy for worst adaptation?

I guess When Mutants Attack is the safe bet.

Wow...

I hope I am SO wrong I cannot speak for a day....

[jmao]

lol like i said before, there should be a spin-off... "The Adventures of Cyclops" haha itll be extra interesting cause he has no glasses and prolly cant see, unless he blows everything away haha

[Kurosawa]

I will never see another film by Fox, Kinberg, or Penn! That's a fact. I will not be seeing this film I swear to GOD I will not see this film, I'm not about to watch the queerest interpretation of the X-MEN and the destruction of Cyclops. Rothman, Penn, Kinberg kiss my ****ING Ass you ****suckers. Burn in hell. I'm done and gone now, To my fellow Cyke fans I bid thee farewell and I hope you get a Cyclops you will all be able to accept, I know I won't so I am in fact done here, I refuse to look at anymore information regarding this movie, I have hit my limit and will NEVER see this film EVER, I know no matter what I will be dissapointed so I will simply stick with the comics, I know they will never let me down. Goodbye
:up: :up:

I wouldn't count on the comics either though, man. Look how they copied the movies with characters like Spidey and Bullseye.

[the_scream]

Well, myself and a few others here have been saying for months now not to get your hopes up. As I've said before, it has been plain as day that Cyclops was a goner. And, no Worthy, I don't want to here "we don't know that yet". Time to accept it and join me in my anger. ;)

[aaron]

goodish news, conan just said that in jeans dream/flashback with scott, hes wearing civilian clothing, not an xsuit

[Downhere]

goodish news, conan just said that in jeans dream/flashback with scott, hes wearing civilian clothing, not an xsuit

Maybe there is some hope for old Cyke yet.

[aaron]

theres always hope^ im still in the same mind i was before i read what happens in both the junior novel and claremonts novel

[Downhere]

I'm still 50/50 on it. It can go either way really. At the moment, I'm more concerned with the length, then comes Cykes fate.

[aaron]

i think the length is 106mins, the finnish fox distributor had it at 106mins

[fckable David]

Last time I bought the novel to read about Jean's fate, just to get shown otherwise on the big screen later.
I'm still holding out.

[Downhere]

i think the length is 106mins, the finnish fox distributor had it at 106mins

I'm still holding out hope, I'll know the truth today once the writer from the Hype sees the film. I think there's still hope, but that's just me. If I come on tonight and see that it is indeed under 2 hours well...I guess I'll have to deal with it, but I won't be happy about it for sure.

[LEX]

The writers from the Hype are going to see the film? :eek:

[Downhere]

The writers from the Hype are going to see the film? :eek:

Where have you been? lol. Today there will be domestic press screenings. :p

[LastSunrise1981]

:up: :up:

I wouldn't count on the comics either though, man. Look how they copied the movies with characters like Spidey and Bullseye.

:rolleyes:

Oh please, you and him will still be there on May 26th to see the film. You're not fooling anyone with this particular front. And if you hate the direction that much, then why are you still here? Because you want to see the movie and are anticipating it.

Gosh, I swear you overzealous fanboys are pathetic sometimes. Can't even see a movie to see how it'll turn out.

[TromaFreak64]

No worries man.:) It's actually NOT fan made. That was a piece done by storyboard artist named Federico D'Alessandro (currently working on I Am Legend.

Link: http://www.thefilmartist.com/Pages/New_Sections/Film_Page.html

It resembles Alctraz and the danger room scenery a bit.

It was discussed along time ago on this board and some presented evidence that it was from X2....although it was believed to be from X3. That's the reason Cyke's visor is not up to date and it was done at a point early on before the new design in X2 has been completed.

[Cyan]

Nice avatar LastSunrise

Ow, 106 minutes is the time for a breath...

Cyclops death is a lie, or that's what I want to believe in.

[PikaZeroX]

I doubt they'll be able to reveal anything except the running time though, and a "good" or "bad".

[DarknessOfDeath]

so when are the hype writers going to see X3?

[Downhere]

I don't really care to know specifics at this point...just if it's over 2 hours and if it's good. That's all I need to know. lol.

[LastSunrise1981]

Nice avatar LastSunrise

Ow, 106 minutes is the time for a breath...

Cyclops death is a lie, or that's what I want to believe in.

Gracias. :up:

[cyke93]

goodish news, conan just said that in jeans dream/flashback with scott, hes wearing civilian clothing, not an xsuit

i said that a long time ago that it would be very hard for them to kill cyclops off early .. change their mind and bring him back in the end.

i am thinking that after the uproar over the AICN script, fox wanted to take action. However with a lot of scenes done, there was no way to bring scott in with out some MAJOR revisions. Obvisouly they wouldn't do that so these flashbacks are the only things that could get James Marsden back on set. Like I was saying before, maybe at the end Jean's subconscious will make her believe that Scott is with her (and she can dress him up any way she wants, he might appear in street clothes or in uniform) and he will act as her "conscious" telling her that what she's doing is wrong. But essentially he'll be dead.

[Another_Fool]

i said that a long time ago that it would be very hard for them to kill cyclops off early .. change their mind and bring him back in the end.

i am thinking that after the uproar over the AICN script, fox wanted to take action. However with a lot of scenes done, there was no way to bring scott in with out some MAJOR revisions. Obvisouly they wouldn't do that so these flashbacks are the only things that could get James Marsden back on set. Like I was saying before, maybe at the end Jean's subconscious will make her believe that Scott is with her (and she can dress him up any way she wants, he might appear in street clothes or in uniform) and he will act as her "conscious" telling her that what she's doing is wrong. But essentially he'll be dead.

You know, if somehow Cyke the one to calm her down a la subconscious, I think that would just be such a TERRIBLE way to go. I don't know how other fans would feel, but for me I'd think that was just WAY too cheesy. If he's dead, keep him dead damnit. Its already bad enough if he gets killed off. No resurrection, no Obi-Wan Kenobi gibberish.

[cyke93]

Well, myself and a few others here have been saying for months now not to get your hopes up. As I've said before, it has been plain as day that Cyclops was a goner. And, no Worthy, I don't want to here "we don't know that yet". Time to accept it and join me in my anger. ;)

word. there was a lot of promise but really all the facts that would confirm that he lives were vague at best. the biggest thing he had going for him were the promo pics but since they were not pics from the actual set, it really didn't mean much. Jackman mentioned something about Scott in the beg. of the movie, he could refer to that as what Cyclops' fans will enjoy, that they won't see him as the boy scout from x1.

Basically, the nail in the coffin (no pun intended hehe) was with the jr and claremont novels. my anger has pretty much boiled over although i could have relapses. either way, go into the movie with low expectations for scott.

[cyke93]

You know, if somehow Cyke the one to calm her down a la subconscious, I think that would just be such a TERRIBLE way to go. I don't know how other fans would feel, but for me I'd think that was just WAY too cheesy. If he's dead, keep him dead damnit. Its already bad enough if he gets killed off. No resurrection, no Obi-Wan Kenobi gibberish.

to try to appease the fans, they do a couple of flashback scenes. its the easiest thing to do and would require no reshoots or changing of the plot. i could already see it. A close up of Jean's face and then the camera moves back and we're transported to a different time and scott is there. they figure that seeing him on screen will be enough for us. nevermind everything else.

[TromaFreak64]

Reviews are coming in like no other....and none look positive for Scott.

[Another_Fool]

Reviews are coming in like no other....and none look positive for Scott.

Where are you reading the reviews?

[Another_Fool]

to try to appease the fans, they do a couple of flashback scenes. its the easiest thing to do and would require no reshoots or changing of the plot. i could already see it. A close up of Jean's face and then the camera moves back and we're transported to a different time and scott is there. they figure that seeing him on screen will be enough for us. nevermind everything else.

I admit I'd rather see her sacrifice herself, like gain control for just that ONE moment, and save everyone again by offing herself. Not Wolverine doing the dirty work. I guess it kinda brings their arc to an end. But between Wolvie and Jean? Reeks, it just reeks.

[Downhere]

The reviews are fake. Don't believe any reviews until after tonight, then maybe the reviews will be legit since we know today they are screening the movie.

[britrogue]

I'm not going to read any reviews.

[cyke93]

someone just needs to tell me if he die early or not.

[narrows101]

Guess who was at the opening night of Tarzan on Broadway? Third picture.

http://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=9575

[Endeavor]

6. marsden - he did sign up for superman .. good for his career but not for his character.

I assume by this comment that you're buying in to the excuse we're being given that his role has been diminished due to the actors availability... Well, I recommend that you don't put so much faith behind those statements because they're simply NOT true.
Marsden was available to shoot his scenes for X3 for over a month. We're talking uninterrupted time exclusively dedicated to X3. That doesn't count other instances where he could have sneaked in a week or two while on hiatus from his other project(s).Don't believe me? Check out the timeline that Retroman recapped for us a couple of pages back.
Considering that timeframe the 'not enough availability' excuse falls flat on it's ass. There are movies which have had less shooting time than this. We're talking small/indie movies yes, but whole movies nonetheless. But perhaps the most compelling argument is comparing it to the availability of McKellen for X2. Ian himself has gone on record saying his totall shooting time for X2 hovered around 2 weeks, which was why he was so surprised there was so much of him in that movie... and there is no denial Magneto's role in X2 was substantial.
So why can't we have a substantial role for Cyclops in X3 when he was available for longer than a month?

[CapBeerCino]

Guess who was at the opening night of Tarzan on Broadway? Third picture.

http://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=9575

Thanx Narrows!
Funny how everyone looks like their pic was taken spontaneity while Jimmy lookes like a model :p

[aaron]

im quite sad now :(

[CapBeerCino]

im quite sad now :(

Cause of the 103 mins?

[aaron]

cos i kinda believe that val wasnt faking

[Octoberist]

Where's Val's thread now?

[aaron]

its just suddenly re-appeared

[CapBeerCino]

Deleted me thinks

[CapBeerCino]

cos i kinda believe that val wasnt faking

The Magneto and Xavier at Jeans house sound real
If thats the case the movie can be 15 minutes long as far as I care :( (shhh... dont let anyone outside this thread hear) :o

[cyke93]

I assume by this comment that you're buying in to the excuse we're being given that his role has been diminished due to the actors availability... Well, I recommend that you don't put so much faith behind those statements because they're simply NOT true.
Marsden was available to shoot his scenes for X3 for over a month. We're talking uninterrupted time exclusively dedicated to X3. That doesn't count other instances where he could have sneaked in a week or two while on hiatus from his other project(s).Don't believe me? Check out the timeline that Retroman recapped for us a couple of pages back.
Considering that timeframe the 'not enough availability' excuse falls flat on it's ass. There are movies which have had less shooting time than this. We're talking small/indie movies yes, but whole movies nonetheless. But perhaps the most compelling argument is comparing it to the availability of McKellen for X2. Ian himself has gone on record saying his totall shooting time for X2 hovered around 2 weeks, which was why he was so surprised there was so much of him in that movie... and there is no denial Magneto's role in X2 was substantial.
So why can't we have a substantial role for Cyclops in X3 when he was available for longer than a month?

id like to clarify that a lot of factors were involved with the diminished role of cyclops from x3. some were more to blame than others.

marsden does superman. good for his career. bad for cyclops. fox responds by reducing cyclops' role.

i like marsden, i love him as cyclops. maybe i should've clarified that he was indirectly responsible, instead of being directly responsible.

[LastSunrise1981]

Well in Marden's defense, it's not like he should've waited for Fox to make a move. In all reality this could've been avoided. Yes, it could've been avoided if they signed Singer to three movies.

Granted if not for Singer we wouldn't be getting SR. However, if Singer was already signed for three movies, then more than likely the filming would've started a lot earlier and things wouldn't have been as rushed.

Fox dropped the gun and it's their fault for waiting so long. X1 and X2 made quite a bit of money; so why they did what they did is beyond me at this point.

Only thing is Halle wouldn't have returned for Storm; not that it would've bothered me, because they could kill off Storm and I wouldn't care either way to be honest with you. :)

[Octoberist]

It sounds like FOX is bunch of babies.

[Balthus Dire]

They should have wrote out Storm along with Nightcrawler and beefed up Cyke's role.

[Octoberist]

I just dont' want "Wolverine and Storm: The Movie".

[PikaZeroX]

They should have wrote out Storm along with Nightcrawler and beefed up Cyke's role.

No.. Writing out Storm would cause heavier backlash than this I think Lol.

[Octoberist]

If I made an X-Men movie, I would of kept everyone in, including Nightcrawler. And I would of added Beast, Gambit, and Angel.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

a new wallpaper for the cyclops fans

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8602/cyclops5aq.gif

do you like it?

-JeanGrey[GR]:xmen:

[LastSunrise1981]

']a new wallpaper for the cyclops fans

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8602/cyclops5aq.gif

do you like it?

-JeanGrey[GR]:xmen:

Very nice work you did there. :) :up: :up:

[Octoberist]

Very nice artwork!

[fckable David]

']do you like it?



Pretty cool. :)

[ginny_weasley]

']
do you like it?

-JeanGrey[GR]:xmen:

oooh, animation too! very nice!:up:

[taintedFB]

I honestly STILL think there is a chance that Scott will survive.

Clearly the novel has taken some liberties... including Gambit, etc...

So it's quite possible that it was agreed not to include his return. I hope so. I find it hard to believe that after two good movies and with Avi Arad and Shuller Donner still producing, and knowing the original story, that they would disregard Cyclops like this. I also think that comment about fans will be happy with the character arcs and how they've been treated is hard to believe if in fact he dies at Alkali.

My optimism has weakened somewhat but I still think he'll return for the end.

[Octoberist]

I just hope that Cyclops doesn't bite the dust. As a writer, I can't see how that benefits the movie without a few "WTF"s from the crowd.

[gap5ewl]

i really hope cyclops lives. really hoping. i want to see him kick some ass in the final battle

[ginny_weasley]

I honestly STILL think there is a chance that Scott will survive.

Clearly the novel has taken some liberties... including Gambit, etc...

So it's quite possible that it was agreed not to include his return. I hope so. I find it hard to believe that after two good movies and with Avi Arad and Shuller Donner still producing, and knowing the original story, that they would disregard Cyclops like this. I also think that comment about fans will be happy with the character arcs and how they've been treated is hard to believe if in fact he dies at Alkali.

My optimism has weakened somewhat but I still think he'll return for the end.

My hope hasn't completely been squashed either. It's on its last legs, but it's not dead yet. :up:

[conan69]

I think its hysterical that with all the reviews coming out, official novel, etc...

We STILL dont know if Cyke croaks or not:)

[J.Howlett]

Antony will tell us if he gets into that screening sometime tonight....that should settle things.

[gap5ewl]

I think its hysterical that with all the reviews coming out, official novel, etc...

We STILL dont know if Cyke croaks or not:)
well i dont think any REAL review has come out yet. We'll probally be seeing those next week or so. But yeah this is one of the biggest secrets in comic book hollywood history lol.

[Obsidian]

regardless of whether Cyclops lives or dies, Tom Rothman needs to leave FOX:mad:

[JokerNick]

My hope hasn't completely been squashed either. It's on its last legs, but it's not dead yet. :up:

THAT'S MORE THEN WE CAN SAY FOR CYKE THO.......LOL

[WorthyStevens]

THAT'S MORE THEN WE CAN SAY FOR CYKE THO.......LOL

Bad timing Nick. :(

[JokerNick]

Bad timing Nick. :(

lol:)

[taintedFB]

...There is still hope....

And lets be honest MOST Legit Review won't give away major spoilers...

Either way I am going to sit through till the end of the credits to see if a secret scene is tagged on...

[SCOTT&JEAN]

']a new wallpaper for the cyclops fans

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8602/cyclops5aq.gif

do you like it?

-JeanGrey[GR]:xmen:
I LOVE it!

[Cyclops Lives!!]

Kinberg insisted he is a big Cyclops fan and that he believes Cyke's fans will be pleased by the way he is being treated in the film!We'll wait and see...But if Cyke dies he is a freaking f***ing liar that tried to manipulate us and lead us in the wrong direction,just to give our precious money to FOX's pockets!!The day that we learn the truth is coming shortly...

[Bastila]

And other Cyke Manip i made

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/TimeForce/ScottJean.gif

[CapBeerCino]

I just hope that Cyclops doesn't bite the dust. As a writer, I can't see how that benefits the movie without a few "WTF"s from the crowd.

X-2 survived without any WTF cause only fans will care about Cyke.

[Octoberist]

I doubt it. From a narrative standpoint, there will be "WTF? That's it?" reactions. don't underestimate the public, SUGAR PIE!

[TromaFreak64]

I went and read all the kids book....and in Meet the X-Men, Cyclops is shown in the beginning and the end....but is the only person not introduced or explained. In the other one that briefly sums up the whole story Cyclops is shown at the beginning two times, then the story goes on. Jean kills Xavier even in it and they go to the final battlle...but Cyclops is NO WHERE after the beginning. Not even a mention. The one where Rouge finds a home, Cyclops is shown and mentioned by name--thankfully--but never mentioned again. He also appears with Storm, Beast, Wolverine and Xavier in the mansion discussing the cure in one--but he says nothing just stands there.

So basically Cyclops is getting the shaft here.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

And other Cyke Manip i made

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/TimeForce/ScottJean.gif
Awesome!

[mustanger405]

When are we going to accept the fact that Cyke dies....we are living in such denial. Vanilla Cyke understands his fate by now AND SO DO I. It is just so blatent....HE WILL DIE IN THIS MOVIE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF OTHERWISE BUT THERE IS TOO MUCH PROOF NOW. WE EVEN HAVE A KID WHO CLAIMED HE SAW THE MOVIE AND GAVE REAL QUOTES STATING HE DIES FOR GOOD. I AM STILL GOING TO SEE THE FILM BUT I CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE CYKE THE SHORT CHANGE YET AGAIN. THERE IS NO SAVING HIM NOW. I AM SCHOCKED,HOWEVER, THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR AT XVERSE DID NOT DELETE ALL THE POSTS SHOWING CONCERN AND ANGER OVER CYKES FATE. WATCH SIMON DOESNT EVEN RESPOND. I MEAN HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT. ONLY 15 DAYS LEFT TILL THE FILM. THAT WOULD JUST PISS ME OFF EVEN MORE. THEY WANT OUR MONEY AND SIMON REALIZES THIS. ITS THE WAY BUSINESS WORKS.

[TromaFreak64]

Man Cyclops beams look totally different in TV SPot 13. Has anyone noticed this? The effects are definetly more polished and finished now.

[gap5ewl]

When are we going to accept the fact that Cyke dies....we are living in such denial. Vanilla Cyke understands his fate by now AND SO DO I. It is just so blatent....HE WILL DIE IN THIS MOVIE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF OTHERWISE BUT THERE IS TOO MUCH PROOF NOW. WE EVEN HAVE A KID WHO CLAIMED HE SAW THE MOVIE AND GAVE REAL QUOTES STATING HE DIES FOR GOOD. I AM STILL GOING TO SEE THE FILM BUT I CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE CYKE THE SHORT CHANGE YET AGAIN. THERE IS NO SAVING HIM NOW. I AM SCHOCKED,HOWEVER, THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR AT XVERSE DID NOT DELETE ALL THE POSTS SHOWING CONCERN AND ANGER OVER CYKES FATE. WATCH SIMON DOESNT EVEN RESPOND. I MEAN HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT. ONLY 15 DAYS LEFT TILL THE FILM. THAT WOULD JUST PISS ME OFF EVEN MORE. THEY WANT OUR MONEY AND SIMON REALIZES THIS. ITS THE WAY BUSINESS WORKS.
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[High Voltage]

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[WorthyStevens]

When are we going to accept the fact that Cyke dies....we are living in such denial. Vanilla Cyke understands his fate by now AND SO DO I. It is just so blatent....HE WILL DIE IN THIS MOVIE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF OTHERWISE BUT THERE IS TOO MUCH PROOF NOW. WE EVEN HAVE A KID WHO CLAIMED HE SAW THE MOVIE AND GAVE REAL QUOTES STATING HE DIES FOR GOOD. I AM STILL GOING TO SEE THE FILM BUT I CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE CYKE THE SHORT CHANGE YET AGAIN. THERE IS NO SAVING HIM NOW. I AM SCHOCKED,HOWEVER, THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR AT XVERSE DID NOT DELETE ALL THE POSTS SHOWING CONCERN AND ANGER OVER CYKES FATE. WATCH SIMON DOESNT EVEN RESPOND. I MEAN HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT. ONLY 15 DAYS LEFT TILL THE FILM. THAT WOULD JUST PISS ME OFF EVEN MORE. THEY WANT OUR MONEY AND SIMON REALIZES THIS. ITS THE WAY BUSINESS WORKS.

I'll stop living in denial once I see it actually happens.

[taintedFB]

Same here.

[taintedFB]

I wonder if Fox has picked which version to release or whether tonight's screenings will be different to prevent spoilers and guage reactions still?

[TheWeatherMan]

They should have wrote out Storm along with Nightcrawler and beefed up Cyke's role.

Do you al actually believe that Storm's character is to blame for Cyke's fate? That was a franchise decision. Fox made the call and Zak, Simon & Rat worked with what they had. Halle, the directors and the writers clearly clarified that she only wanted Storm to have a purpose. You don't have to be a leader to have a purpose. I know this is a tired discussion... "it's Halle's fault"... "no it's not!" and it could go on and on. However, it's just a weird that she is always the one to blame for something going wrong.

Marsden is a great actor, I enjoy all of his work and he is the BEST person to play Cyclops. However, his choice to sign on to do a movie with a director that broke his contract with teh franchise and took most of the crew with him did not sit well with Fox... why wouldn't they want to punish him? I'm respect everyone's opinions, but I just want people to look at if from another angle. Storm/Halle can not be responsible for everything that goes wrong with this movie. Especially when it comes to Marsden's decision, which she didn't make or influence.

Just to clarify, I think its BS that hos character (if this is the case) is killed off... straight BS. It's wrong of Fox to hold a grudge like that. But at the end of the day, it's all about politics! And Jame's decision wasn't the best, at least not for the character.

[The Original Bamfer]

Meh, these reviews don't mean ****, seriously

[J.Howlett]

First off, Singer didn't break his contract with Fox because Fox waited on their asses to officially sign Singer. They had plenty of time to sign Singer and the writers to X3.

[Kurosawa]

:rolleyes:

Oh please, you and him will still be there on May 26th to see the film. You're not fooling anyone with this particular front. And if you hate the direction that much, then why are you still here? Because you want to see the movie and are anticipating it.

Gosh, I swear you overzealous fanboys are pathetic sometimes. Can't even see a movie to see how it'll turn out.

If Cyclops dies in it-and we will know before it comes out what his fate is-then I will absolutely not be there to see it on May 26 or on any other day.

[lordofthenerds]

If Cyclops dies in it-and we will know before it comes out what his fate is-then I will absolutely not be there to see it on May 26 or on any other day.
You've said that about 100 times man, we get it already. :o

[cyke93]

I honestly STILL think there is a chance that Scott will survive.

Clearly the novel has taken some liberties... including Gambit, etc...

So it's quite possible that it was agreed not to include his return. I hope so. I find it hard to believe that after two good movies and with Avi Arad and Shuller Donner still producing, and knowing the original story, that they would disregard Cyclops like this. I also think that comment about fans will be happy with the character arcs and how they've been treated is hard to believe if in fact he dies at Alkali.

My optimism has weakened somewhat but I still think he'll return for the end.

you're posts have been very optimistic for cyclops' return. i wish i could beo so hopeful. but having him live in the end still does little for his role in the movie. he comes in at the end ::GASP:: then 5 minutes later you have the credits rolling. its better than him dying but still the damage has already been done.


on another note:
i heard some rumblings about a hospital scene and possibly cyclops being there and a sinister connection for an x4 set up. i would like to say staight up that if that happens, cyclops will be in the hospital for the whole movie and wolverine will just save him in the end ! hehe

[Kurosawa]

You've said that about 100 times man, we get it already. :o

LastSunrise said I'd be there regardless. I was just telling him that I absolutely would not be there if the worst is true.

[The Original Bamfer]

If Cyclops dies in it-and we will know before it comes out what his fate is-then I will absolutely not be there to see it on May 26 or on any other day.

Don't be so petty and shallow. X3 could be a fantastic movie, killing Scott off or not.

[The Batman]

You've said that about 100 times man, we get it already. :o


then why is it people keep goading him with crap liek "We'll know you'll see it"

Me....If this movie treats cyke in a bad light, i wont give my money to fox. Maybe I'll buy a bootleg, but thats it...

[fckable David]

Who would want to see X4 if this movie is going to suck as bad as one might guess at this moment in time?

[Kurosawa]

you're posts have been very optimistic for cyclops' return. i wish i could beo so hopeful. but having him live in the end still does little for his role in the movie. he comes in at the end ::GASP:: then 5 minutes later you have the credits rolling. its better than him dying but still the damage has already been done.


on another note:
i heard some rumblings about a hospital scene and possibly cyclops being there and a sinister connection for an x4 set up. i would like to say staight up that if that happens, cyclops will be in the hospital for the whole movie and wolverine will just save him in the end ! hehe

X4: WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks vs Mr. Sinister. The part of Cyclops will be played by a mannequin with shades on.

[lordofthenerds]

then why is it people keep goading him with crap liek "We'll know you'll see it"

Me....If this movie treats cyke in a bad light, i wont give my money to fox. Maybe I'll buy a bootleg, but thats it...
I've never said that. I didn't even read the post he was quoting though.

[Kurosawa]

Don't be so petty and shallow. X3 could be a fantastic movie, killing Scott off or not.

I don't care if it was hailed as the second coming of Christ-they kill Cyke in it, they can kiss my ass.

[CapBeerCino]

X3 could be a fantastic movie, killing Scott off or not.

For you yes. For Kurosawa no. That doesnt make him petty nor shallow.

[The Batman]

I've never said that. I didn't even read the post he was quoting though.


I know. I'm just saying he wouldnt have to repeat himself if people were baiting him

[The Batman]

I don't care if it was hailed as the second coming of Christ-they kill Cyke in it, they can kiss my ass.

Exactly. The worst part is, they Didnt even try. They sat there, talking about how big fans of cyclops they are, and they didnt even try to give him a role of substance. And if the movie plays out like claremonts novel, not only does he get some lame death, but wolverine takes his role in the story, and Storm takes his role as heir apparent. What a bunch of freaking crap.

[The Original Bamfer]

For you yes. For Kurosawa no. That doesnt make him petty nor shallow.

It is petty and shallow, in my opinion. I'm just trying to help prevent a mistake on other people's parts.

[The Original Bamfer]

The worst thing really is, we don't know squat about Scott in this movie.

[cyke93]

X4: WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks vs Mr. Sinister. The part of Cyclops will be played by a mannequin with shades on.

superman 2 will also be filmed at the same time. they're just going to put somebody with the same build as james on a hospital bed, wrap gauss around his face and only have the glasses on so that we know its cyclops .. just like the invisible man

http://www.filmtotaal.nl/images/wallpapers/full/invisibleman/im2_800.jpg

[Kurosawa]

It is petty and shallow, in my opinion. I'm just trying to help prevent a mistake on other people's parts.

Killing as great and as important a character as Cyclops in a stupid and humiliating manner severely hurts the movie's quality.

[Kurosawa]

superman 2 will also be filmed at the same time. they're just going to put somebody with the same build as james on a hospital bed, wrap gauss around his face and only have the glasses on so that we know its cyclops .. just like the invisible man

http://www.filmtotaal.nl/images/wallpapers/full/invisibleman/im2_800.jpg

Heh.

Sad thing is, James will no doubt have a pretty nice part in Superman. Of course I had my share of problems with Singer's X-movies as well, but I think Superman Returns has a chance to be something really special. It seems to have a lot of heart. X3, meanwhile, seems to be completely a creation of empty suits like that ******* bastard Rothman.

[cyke93]

Killing as great and as important a character as Cyclops in a stupid and humiliating manner severely hurts the movie's quality.

i dont want to break up your discussion here but lets face it.

in x1, scott was there, he wasnt a major player but he was there
in x2, he's gone
in x3, he's still gone

bottom line: he was never an important part of the xmovies. we're just upset that we thought he could finally catch a break since phoenix was in this one.

for the viewer who watches this movie, only watching x1 n x2 with no knowledge of the cartoons or comics, seeing cyclops gone or dead wont mean jacksh** to them ... n das how fox has handled x3 because theres a lot of wolvie fans out there and theres so many other characters and all this action out there that it should still please everyone.

on may 27, everyone will go .. it sux about cyclops BUT "enter might words of praise here"

[cyke93]

Heh.

Sad thing is, James will no doubt have a pretty nice part in Superman. Of course I had my share of problems with Singer's X-movies as well, but I think Superman Returns has a chance to be something really special. It seems to have a lot of heart. X3, meanwhile, seems to be completely a creation of empty suits like that ******* bastard Rothman.

the fact that jame's character has a son with louis is very interesting.. although knowing james' luck, the son is really clark's and he'll get pushed aside much like in xmen n in the notebook (but at least he was portrayed in the notebook) !

[Kurosawa]

i dont want to break up your discussion here but lets face it.

in x1, scott was there, he wasnt a major player but he was there
in x2, he's gone
in x3, he's still gone

bottom line: he was never an important part of the xmovies. we're just upset that we thought he could finally catch a break since phoenix was in this one.

for the viewer who watches this movie, only watching x1 n x2 with no knowledge of the cartoons or comics, seeing cyclops gone or dead wont mean jacksh** to them ... n das how fox has handled x3 because theres a lot of wolvie fans out there and theres so many other characters and all this action out there that it should still please everyone.

on may 27, everyone will go .. it sux about cyclops BUT "enter might words of praise here"

I know. It's been a horrible ride for Cyke.

The Dark Phoenix Saga is the Romeo and Juliet of comics. It's easily one of the best storylines ever written, and it's my personal favorite comics saga of all time. Now imagine what reaction critics would have to a version of Romeo and Juliet where Romeo is bumped off in the first 25 minutes and then replaced in the rest of the story by Paris. Oh, and the Montague Family doesn't take but a second to mourn him either.

This is exactly what happens when shallow corporate suits like that bastard Rothman get their fingers into art. **** them all.:mad:

[TheWeatherMan]

First off, Singer didn't break his contract with Fox because Fox waited on their asses to officially sign Singer. They had plenty of time to sign Singer and the writers to X3.

My apologies... I am not saying Fox is right for their grudge, just why they have/had one. Regardless of a contract, they were still expecting him to direct the movie. That is my point... he left teh franchise and they were pissed... James signed on for SR and they took it out him through his character.

[lordofthenerds]

Lets face it guys. These movies should really be called "Wolverine and the X-Men". :o :(

[WorthyStevens]

Lets face it guys. These movies should really be called "Wolverine and the X-Men". :o :(

Funny, isn't that what the new cartoon show's gonna be called?

[cyke93]

I know. It's been a horrible ride for Cyke.

The Dark Phoenix Saga is the Romeo and Juliet of comics. It's easily one of the best storylines ever written, and it's my personal favorite comics saga of all time. Now imagine what reaction critics would have to a version of Romeo and Juliet where Romeo is bumped off in the first 25 minutes and then replaced in the rest of the story by Paris. Oh, and the Montague Family doesn't take but a second to mourn him either.

This is exactly what happens when shallow corporate suits like that bastard Rothman get their fingers into art. **** them all.:mad:

i think the problem stemmed in x1 when they made cyclops look like logan's b****.

but yeah, why do the phoenix story when the 2nd most important character in that saga wont be around.

regardless all the people who watched only the x-films will say how great it was. the comic fans will give a remark about cyclops and then go straight into praising the film.

[J.Howlett]

Singer only left the franchise after WB came to him for Superman Returns. When it was clear that Fox wasn't going to take him, he signed.

That happened in 2005. Fox had two years prior to sign Singer and the writers. After the first month of release of X2, they should've signed him right then and there. X2 shattered the box office take of X-Men so it was clear that Singer hit a nerve with audience. They liked what was being done.

Sign Singer a month or so after X2 came out and we probably wouldn't have had this problem. They would've been working on the script for at least a year instead of how long they worked on it for the film we're getting.

Fox screwed themselves with Rothman's attitude toward Singer considering the amount of obstacles Singer had to go throw to make the X-Men films work.

And Scott got alot of screen time in X-Men. Yes, Logan and Rogue drive the plot but Scott has alot in that film. X2, you can argue. X-Men, you can't.

[TheWeatherMan]

Killing as great and as important a character as Cyclops in a stupid and humiliating manner severely hurts the movie's quality.

It hurts the quality to fans like us... but for the average movie fan, all they would see is action and a good story which makes for alot of $$$ at the box office. That is the bottom line for Fox... $$$. They don't care that Cyke is one of the most important characters of the X-men.. as is Jean, Wolverine, Storm, Beast... etc. The fact that they would do this (if that is the case) is crazy and irresponsible to the X-men franchise.

[Kurosawa]

Lets face it guys. These movies should really be called "Wolverine and the X-Men". :o :(

"The Adventures of WOLVERINE and his little mutie sidekicks."

[cyke93]

Funny, isn't that what the new cartoon show's gonna be called?

nah, thats what the x1, x2, x3 dvd box set (coming out in december 06) will be called

[TromaFreak64]

I ousted Val about his review by referencing a clip that AOL put out today, when asked for details he answered wrong and could provide no answer for why it was wrong, then gave him a link. So I wouldn't trust it.

[WorthyStevens]

"Wolverine and the X-Men"

http://imdb.com/title/tt0772145/

:rolleyes:

[TheWeatherMan]

Lets face it guys. These movies should really be called "Wolverine and the X-Men". :o :(

Sad but true!

[Kurosawa]

"Wolverine and the X-Men"

http://imdb.com/title/tt0772145/

:rolleyes:

I think I just threw up.

[lordofthenerds]

"Wolverine and the X-Men"

http://imdb.com/title/tt0772145/

:rolleyes:
LOL! Actually I've never even heard of the show until now.

[TromaFreak64]

Maybe not, he finally responds with JUST WAIT....maybe he has an answer....but probably not.

[TheWeatherMan]

Singer only left the franchise after WB came to him for Superman Returns. When it was clear that Fox wasn't going to take him, he signed.

That happened in 2005. Fox had two years prior to sign Singer and the writers. After the first month of release of X2, they should've signed him right then and there. X2 shattered the box office take of X-Men so it was clear that Singer hit a nerve with audience. They liked what was being done.

Sign Singer a month or so after X2 came out and we probably wouldn't have had this problem. They would've been working on the script for at least a year instead of how long they worked on it for the film we're getting.

Fox screwed themselves with Rothman's attitude toward Singer considering the amount of obstacles Singer had to go throw to make the X-Men films work.

And Scott got alot of screen time in X-Men. Yes, Logan and Rogue drive the plot but Scott has alot in that film. X2, you can argue. X-Men, you can't.

J... I understand exactly where you're coming from. Fox can be their own worse enemies at times. If they wanted Singer they should have secured him after the success of X2.

[TheWeatherMan]

I think I just threw up.

My sentiments exactly...

[pt_photo_inc]

If Cyclops dies in it-and we will know before it comes out what his fate is-then I will absolutely not be there to see it on May 26 or on any other day. i swear to god if i see it at midnight and he dies i am coming back to tell you just to see if you ACTUALLY WONT see the movie

[mustanger405]

Whats Sooo Damn Depressing Is This Honestly Looked Like The Best Out Of The Three....its Just Soo Massive In Scope And The Drama And Such.....and Cyclops Wont Be A Part Of It.
Curse Fox!!!
Kill Em......kill Em All

[cyke93]

I think I just threw up.

ditto

[TromaFreak64]

I can not believe that tv series is coming out...and the kids books! Go look at what they do to Cyclops in meet the X-men...little kids are going to be like who is this guy with sunglasses and they will read it...and then they will be like WTF they never told me who he was--why is he even in 2 pictures if we are going to ignore him and explain EVERYONE ELSE!

[mustanger405]

Guys...that kid on imdb has gotten evrything right so far and he said he saw an official press screening. He said Cyke dies for good and all they do it talk about him.

Its confirmation guys.

This kid knew trust me
He said the you know who I am....I am the Juggernaut B----
Also the kid knew that a hospital scene would be shown after the credits roll----also confirmed
I mean....the kid obviously was telling the truth and he said Cyke dies for sure.

Its over....let us just accept the cold hard truth

SCREW U FOX

[TromaFreak64]

Look at these stupid books--it's like Cyclops does not EXIST!

[TromaFreak64]

My anger in the children's section at Barnes and Noble over the treatment of Cyclops or lack there of in these kids books, has tramatuized more than one youthful mind.

[mustanger405]

ITS obvious Fox wanted to stamp out this beloved character from the Xmen franchise forever.

Hell they are doing everything in their power to glorify wolverine and just elimate Scott from the fan's minds

[TromaFreak64]

He's not in the kids books, he is missing from everything...all the merchandising, etc. But suddenly Cyke is in every poster--the items that were JUST created....maybe they have realized just how important he is, but its too late to correct unless its some silly scene at the end of the credits.

[Kurosawa]

i swear to god if i see it at midnight and he dies i am coming back to tell you just to see if you ACTUALLY WONT see the movie

I'll know well before then what happens.

[Kurosawa]

ITS obvious Fox wanted to stamp out this beloved character from the Xmen franchise forever.

Hell they are doing everything in their power to glorify wolverine and just elimate Scott from the fan's minds

Pretty much. And crap like that is why I've always hated Wolverine, and always will hate Wolverine.

[DarknessOfDeath]

bring on the hate letters.... someone should send them to fox... though...I dunno. It ain't gonna help the matter.

[pt_photo_inc]

bring on the hate letters.... someone should send them to fox... though...I dunno. It ain't gonna help the matter. it would if there was tiny bombs in them... that pop out with flags saying BOOM! dont really hurt anyone just make them **** themselves

[WorthyStevens]

How I wanted to see some Angel and Cyclops interaction in the movie. :(

[MutantMetalhead]

How I wanted to see some Angel and Cyclops interaction in the movie. :(

That, and a scene with the original 5. Seriously, I think it would've been awesome to have a shot replicating the cover of the first issue.

[DarknessOfDeath]

-lowers his head- ouch time :(:(

[taintedFB]

Maybe that screening was just one of the versions being screened yesterday... We don't know for sure. It is likely, but not a certainty...not yet.

All the positive words about Cyclops and the characters from the filmmakers... they can't seriously expect fans to be happy with the way Cyclops is treated in this... Again, this could be a set-up for a HUGE surprise in the end of the film... I really believe that there are alternate endings... who knows.. even if they release a bad version we may get Cyclops in an alternate ending on the DVD or in X-Men 3.5 Release.

I doubt the writers would be speaking to fans online and saying they'll be around after so that we can discuss the movie if they already know how pissed off we are about Scott... I still think there's more than anyone is revealing, maybe scenes that have been cut from screenings?

Fox seems hell bent on keeping secrets about this movie..

[MutantMetalhead]

Yeah...in the end, nothing will be official until we've seen the movie (and apparently waited through the credits), but at the moment I'm not optimistic.

[ShadowBoxing]

Don't be so petty and shallow. X3 could be a fantastic movie, killing Scott off or not.I wouldn't go that far. Killing off Scott alienates most comic fans in the process (considering his punk a$$ death too), this film will have trouble clearing mediocre.

[mustanger405]

I cant believe the last scene after the credits ROLL involves the professor....that is the stupedest sh** I ever heard. He should not be reborn but scott should. WHAT STUPIDITY. IT JUST ANGERS ME SO MUCH THINKING ABOUT IT.

Anybody know if there is any difference to the endings of the different versions of the script. I think we are clinging to nothing. Its over
Worthy also angel doesnt even fight in the final battle....They really screwed over two of the best characters.

WHY HAVE THE PROFESSOR REVIVE AT THE END....THATS NOT EVEN LOGICAL. HIS DEATH SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IMPACTS EVERYONE.

[ginny_weasley]

He's not in the kids books, he is missing from everything...all the merchandising, etc. But suddenly Cyke is in every poster--the items that were JUST created....maybe they have realized just how important he is, but its too late to correct unless its some silly scene at the end of the credits.

"some silly scene at the end of the credits" - now that's something I will not settle for...it won't count - it won't be part of the canon story.

This is so awful....I feel like I'm gonna throw up a little in my throat.

I'm totally not excited for the fox preview tonight at all....:(

[mustanger405]

Tainted Sorry But Who Cares About The Dvd Release...its The Theatrical Release That Everyone Will Be Watching And If He Is Not Properly Portrayed There....then F--- Em

[MutantMetalhead]

WHY HAVE THE PROFESSOR REVIVE AT THE END....THATS NOT EVEN LOGICAL. HIS DEATH SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IMPACTS EVERYONE.

Well, why have the original X-Man die before any fight scenes? Sure, there would be deaths in a "war," but if he dies before this war even begins, that argument really has no leg to stand on. The writers say they are big Cyke fans, and they had constraints placed...my guess is the studio said "we want Wolverine to be the hero, to love Jean, to save her, yadda yadda" and the writers thought "well...that can't happen because of Cyclops. I guess the only way around it is to kill him in the beginning."

But yes, there are a lot of whys to be asked.

[Sun_Down]

I wouldn't go that far. Killing off Scott alienates most comic fans in the process (considering his punk a$$ death too), this film will have trouble clearing mediocre.

It doesn't "alienate most comic book fans". That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If Scott's death would actually ruin the movie for anyone, then those people have some serious growing up to do.

[genufine]

bring on the hate letters.... someone should send them to fox... though...I dunno. It ain't gonna help the matter.

Im not sure as to if you're joking or not. Let me tell you, FAN letters have a BIG impact on movie direction - believe it or not. I am guessing there wasnt too much of an uproar that Cyke didnt have alot of screentime in X2 - hence the treatment of him in X3. If he was IMPORTANT in the eyes of the fan - fox wouldnt make up a bull***** excuse of YA HE WAS VERY BUSY BLA BLA BLA.

My point is basically, when the movie comes out, we as cyclops/xmen fans need to let FOX know that they are truly morons for *****in it up and ask them for a proper X4 (if they go ahead with it) or an x-men begins. This is the only way fox will learn. Otherwise, if you stay quite then expect the same ***** in X4.

[mustanger405]

Sun....what are u a wolverine lover....we dont want ur kind here.

And I am all for organizing some pedition or something. We have to do something rather than just bitc* and moan on these boards. I mean we have to make it known. Just think we got a small army on this thread.....We are almost at 20,000 posts now. ITS BY FAR THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL SIBJECT IN THE FILM

IF FOX WANTS A WAR!!.....BRING OUT THE BODY BAGS....BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

and yeah... I was kidding. lol

[echostation]

are you guys sure the Ending scene involves Professor X?

[MutantMetalhead]

I am guessing there wasnt too much of an uproar that Cyke didnt have alot of screentime in X2

Probably cause most people figured that he'd get his due in X3.

[mustanger405]

thats what been said by somebody on imdb who most def saw the movie....he said the last scene after the credits involves professor x and a hospital. how the hell can they do this revive him and not scott....I wanna forget about all this but It just pisses me off too much after all of this speculation.

[TromaFreak64]

I am angry. So the funeral is Cyclops and Xaviers...they are Storm's oldest friends and the ones who are expected to carry on and run the mansion. Now Storm takes over. She essentially steals Cyclops role.

Early on in the film Xavier will tell her how Cyclops died when Jean died, then he expects her to one day run the school--thus stealing Scott's arc.

Second, Storm will give the euology at both funerals with most of the focus on Xavier. She will then tell Wolverine that she lost two of her oldest friends today and not to go after Phinoex alone.

Third she will say she lost the only FATHER she ever knew--essentiallystealing Scott and Xavier's father son relationship.

More specifically:

STORM: Why can't you let her go? Why can't you see the truth?...
Because you love her. She made her choice. It's time to make yours. If you're with us, then be with us!"

Seriously look

STORM: I've lost two of my oldest friends and the only father I've ever known. I don't want to lose you too.

----I don't blame Storm for stealing the role, but it's clear Cyclops was supposed to be a driving figure here and they tossed his plot points to Wolverine and Storm.

[Sun_Down]

Sun....what are u a wolverine lover....we dont want ur kind here.

And I am all for organizing some pedition or something. We have to do something rather than just bitc* and moan on these boards. I mean we have to make it known. Just think we got a small army on this thread.....We are almost at 20,000 posts now. ITS BY FAR THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL SIBJECT IN THE FILM

IF FOX WANTS A WAR!!.....BRING OUT THE BODY BAGS....BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE :)

No, I'm not a Wolverine lover, I'm just not a whiny little baby. If they killed Angel, my favorite character, I wouldn't ***** and moan about it. I'd watch the movie, and then decide whether or not his death was a good thing or a bad thing. If his death was a poignant, important part of the film, I'd feel more honored than anything else.

[Daniella]

Well, I reading all of this and I'm presuming that Cyke dies at Alkali Lake... or have a very little screentime... but what a word on the matter ? And whant about Jean ?

Dany

[TromaFreak64]

Oh yeah Psychic rapport....Wolverine and Jean share it too. Wolverine finds the base, because he goes to Xavier's grave and begins to have images and see messages from Jean in his mind giving away her location and asking for help....gr

[TromaFreak64]

I can not figure this out yet, but Wolverine goes to the mutant campsite on a motorcycle...it may very well be CYCLOPS' motorcycle...he did it again!

[ginny_weasley]

I can not figure this out yet, but Wolverine goes to the mutant campsite on a motorcycle...it may very well be CYCLOPS' motorcycle...he did it again!

somehow that really doesn't surprise me at this point...:(

[The Batman]

No, I'm not a Wolverine lover, I'm just not a whiny little baby. If they killed Angel, my favorite character, I wouldn't ***** and moan about it. I'd watch the movie, and then decide whether or not his death was a good thing or a bad thing. If his death was a poignant, important part of the film, I'd feel more honored than anything else.


Please spare us the bull****.

We KNOW how Cyke will die in this film, if he does. And people have decided, that it sucks. Get over it.

[TromaFreak64]

somehow that really doesn't surprise me at this point...:(

Yeah if all three novels are right" Clearmount, junior novel and the kids "Fight the cure" the extremely dumbdown one...then YES he steals Wolverine's bike....

Cyclops dies in ALL THREE...So does Xavier.....Rouge takes the cure in 2 of them and does not in 1.....

The lines and roles and even plot points are all solved the same.....ugh...this is terrible they barely acknowledge Cyclops beyond his death. He gets a mention or to, but wtf......

[RagingTempest]

I am angry. So the funeral is Cyclops and Xaviers...they are Storm's oldest friends and the ones who are expected to carry on and run the mansion. Now Storm takes over. She essentially steals Cyclops role.

Early on in the film Xavier will tell her how Cyclops died when Jean died, then he expects her to one day run the school--thus stealing Scott's arc.

Second, Storm will give the euology at both funerals with most of the focus on Xavier. She will then tell Wolverine that she lost two of her oldest friends today and not to go after Phinoex alone.

Third she will say she lost the only FATHER she ever knew--essentiallystealing Scott and Xavier's father son relationship.

More specifically:

STORM: Why can't you let her go? Why can't you see the truth?...
Because you love her. She made her choice. It's time to make yours. If you're with us, then be with us!"

Seriously look

STORM: I've lost two of my oldest friends and the only father I've ever known. I don't want to lose you too.

----I don't blame Storm for stealing the role, but it's clear Cyclops was supposed to be a driving figure here and they tossed his plot points to Wolverine and Storm.

Where did you get this from?:confused:

[PhePhe112]

I am sooooo disappointed that I'm sick to my stomach. Yeah it may sound childish but I really feel like just skipping the movie :'(
Thanks FOX, Thanks Writers....Thank you soooooo much for ruining this movie.
::extremely disgusted::

R.I.P Cyke!!!! :cyclops:


:(

[RagingTempest]

:confused: Did I miss something?

[WorthyStevens]

I am angry. So the funeral is Cyclops and Xaviers...they are Storm's oldest friends and the ones who are expected to carry on and run the mansion. Now Storm takes over. She essentially steals Cyclops role.

Early on in the film Xavier will tell her how Cyclops died when Jean died, then he expects her to one day run the school--thus stealing Scott's arc.

Second, Storm will give the euology at both funerals with most of the focus on Xavier. She will then tell Wolverine that she lost two of her oldest friends today and not to go after Phinoex alone.

Third she will say she lost the only FATHER she ever knew--essentiallystealing Scott and Xavier's father son relationship.

More specifically:

STORM: Why can't you let her go? Why can't you see the truth?...
Because you love her. She made her choice. It's time to make yours. If you're with us, then be with us!"

Seriously look

STORM: I've lost two of my oldest friends and the only father I've ever known. I don't want to lose you too.

----I don't blame Storm for stealing the role, but it's clear Cyclops was supposed to be a driving figure here and they tossed his plot points to Wolverine and Storm.

Storm's not stealing Cyke's role, as she had leadership in the comics.

It's Wolverine that's being given Cyke's role.

[The Batman]

I am definetely not seeing X3 at this point, and if i do, its either because i snuck in to see it, or i bought the bootleg at my local cornerstore. Fox will NOT get my money, one way or the other

[The Batman]

:confused: Did I miss something?

people are essentially realizing what others have guessed for months: Scott will most likely get killed by phoenix

And if that werent enough, Wolverine and apparently storm are taking cyclops' role.

[TromaFreak64]

Storm's not stealing Cyke's role, as she had leadership in the comics.

It's Wolverine that's being given Cyke's role.

Oh its not the leadership I am arguing. It's taking over the school and having Xavier as a father figure.

[Sun_Down]

Please spare us the bull****.

We KNOW how Cyke will die in this film, if he does. And people have decided, that it sucks. Get over it.

You're telling me to get over it? Get over what? I'm not the one with a chip on my shoulder the size of freaking Montana. You guys are *****ing about something you haven't even seen, and doing so for no apparent reason, and I'm supposed to "get over it". Ah, Batman, you never cease to crack me up.

[TromaFreak64]

Man, this is a sad day.

Xavier even considers Wolverine briefly for taking over the school, but explains to Storm that he would like nothing to do with it....this is while Cyclops is still alive....gosh

[ginny_weasley]

Man, this is a sad day.

Xavier even considers Wolverine briefly for taking over the school, but explains to Storm that he would like nothing to do with it....this is while Cyclops is still alive....gosh

Ok, that I do not believe.

[Primogeniture]

Storm's not stealing Cyke's role, as she had leadership in the comics.



I would say that Storm is stealing Cyke's role. Yes, she's always been a leader in the comics, but the way her arc is playing out is EXACTLY like Scott's. Storm isn't the one who is meant to take over the school, and the father-son relationship is supposed to be between Scott and Xavier. It's not that Storm is leading, it's that she is doing it exactly the same way Cyclops is supposed to.

It's like the writers came up with the story for X3 and discovered that Cyclops would be the central character of the entire thing, and that it left little for Wolverine and Halle Berry to do. Obviously we can't have that! So they decided to kill off Cyclops in his second scene and divide his part in the film in half. Giving his Phoenix storyline to Wolverine and giving his Cure/Xavier dies/Last battle with Magneto (Brotherhood) storyline to Storm.

[WorthyStevens]

You're telling me to get over it? Get over what? I'm not the one with a chip on my shoulder the size of freaking Montana. You guys are *****ing about something you haven't even seen, and doing so for no apparent reason, and I'm supposed to "get over it". Ah, Batman, you never cease to crack me up.

The problem isn't just with Slim possibly dying. It's the fact that X3 should have been Cyclops' time to shine.

[ShadowBoxing]

It doesn't "alienate most comic book fans". That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If Scott's death would actually ruin the movie for anyone, then those people have some serious growing up to do.Like fun it doesn't. This is the equivelent to killing Commissoner Gordon or Alfred in Batman Begins.

[Daniella]

I can not figure this out yet, but Wolverine goes to the mutant campsite on a motorcycle...it may very well be CYCLOPS' motorcycle...he did it again!

But at leastone thing he want the most and isn'g getting... it's Jean !!!

Okay, that kiss scene with Wolvoe in the movie... it's her body, but it's not her...

Dany

[The Batman]

You're telling me to get over it? Get over what? I'm not the one with a chip on my shoulder the size of freaking Montana. You guys are *****ing about something you haven't even seen, and doing so for no apparent reason, and I'm supposed to "get over it". Ah, Batman, you never cease to crack me up.


Chip on our shoulder? You're the moron coming in here whining about about how immature people are over being justifiably angry.

Why do we need to see Cyclops get underdevloped and killed when we already know thats gonna happen? Thats stupid logic.

[TromaFreak64]

Ok, that I do not believe.

The line goes something along the lines of

XAVIER: "In fact I imagine you one day taking over this school Storm"
STORM: "What about Cyclops?"
XAVIER: "He's taken Jean's death so hard. Some are tempered by adversity, others are broken, and it seems Scott died the day she did. And Logan's not interested".

[Primogeniture]

Ok, that I do not believe.

I wouldn't put anything past them at this point....

[Primogeniture]

Like fun it doesn't. This is the equivelent to killing Commissoner Gordon or Alfred in Batman Begins.

It's like killing Batman off in the first act of a Dark Knight Returns movie.

[TromaFreak64]

I would say that Storm is stealing Cyke's role. Yes, she's always been a leader in the comics, but the way her arc is playing out is EXACTLY like Scott's. Storm isn't the one who is meant to take over the school, and the father-son relationship is supposed to be between Scott and Xavier. It's not that Storm is leading, it's that she is doing it exactly the same way Cyclops is supposed to.

It's like the writers came up with the story for X3 and discovered that Cyclops would be the central character of the entire thing, and that it left little for Wolverine and Halle Berry to do. Obviously we can't have that! So they decided to kill off Cyclops in his second scene and divide his part in the film in half. Giving his Phoenix storyline to Wolverine and giving his Cure/Xavier dies/Last battle with Magneto (Brotherhood) storyline to Storm.

This is exactly what I was getting at Worthy. He should and could been central but they split his role and gave it to Storm and Wolverine.

[Sun_Down]

Like fun it doesn't. This is the equivelent to killing Commissoner Gordon or Alfred in Batman Begins.

A) This is the last movie of the trilogy, not an origin movie
B) It's not like Cyke never died in the comics

Chip on our shoulder? You're the moron coming in here whining about about how immature people are over being justifiably angry.

Why do we need to see Cyclops get underdevloped and killed when we already know thats gonna happen? Thats stupid logic.

"Justifiably angry"? Man, you just never stop with the side-splitters. I'll never understand this notion that the filmmakers owe the fans anything, but that's just me.

[TromaFreak64]

A) This is the last movie of the trilogy, not an origin movie
B) It's not like Cyke never died in the comics



"Justifiably angry"? Man, you just never stop with the side-splitters. I'll never understand this notion that the filmmakers owe the fans anything, but that's just me.

B is wrong. Cyclops is one of the few X-men to NEVER die in the comics...He went missing once and was feared dead...a las he was not.

[RagingTempest]

people are essentially realizing what others have guessed for months: Scott will most likely get killed by phoenix

And if that werent enough, Wolverine and apparently storm are taking cyclops' role.

AKA "the Cyclops fans are over-acting before they see the movie...yet again!!!":o

[TromaFreak64]

"Justifiably angry"? Man, you just never stop with the side-splitters. I'll never understand this notion that the filmmakers owe the fans anything, but that's just me.

That's because you don't understand supply and demand....or well anything to do with economics...and it looks like life as well.

[WorthyStevens]

AKA "the Cyclops fans are over-acting before they see the movie...yet again!!!":o

While I don't agree that Storm's stealing Cyke's role, I HATE when people say we're overreacting. Cyke is one of my personal favorites, and to see his part greatly reduced when he should have had one of the starring roles, it pains me. And especially to see him fall victim to the popularity of Wolverine. :(

[TromaFreak64]

AKA "the Cyclops fans are over-acting before they see the movie...yet again!!!":o

Go look at the kids book MEET THE X-MEN then you will understand anger. He dies in 2 kids book and 1 adult book....all reviews say he dies. Very soon we will know from someone we can trust a little more....so its not over-reacting at this point. There is a lot of evidence now, but I still have hope, but its insane to say people are "over-acting".

[The Batman]

AKA "the Cyclops fans are over-acting before they see the movie...yet again!!!":o


:rolleyes:


You keep believing cyke will magically come back....the tide has turned, and people are realizing that, chances are, cyke will probably die.

Of course you can lump cyke fans in like that, especially when your precious storm is right behind wolverine in sucking up the most screentime in this one. (Which i dont blame on halle berry)

[Daniella]

Well, I read all of your coments...

I don't think that Fox would be so stupid to show a part of the movie (at least, not the Cyke part that the fans are too curious to know... )...

Don't you se that they want us to believe that he dies ?

And what if he dies ? Don't mean that he won't be at the end...

Dany

[TromaFreak64]

While I don't agree that Storm's stealing Cyke's role, I HATE when people say we're overreacting. Cyke is one of my personal favorites, and to see his part greatly reduced when he should have had one of the starring roles, it pains me. And especially to see him fall victim to the popularity of Wolverine. :(

I pretty much agree with you on most things Worthy. I can't say I disagree with you on this either, but the Storm stealing Cyclops role--this is horrible wording on our parts and done for convince what we are saying is elements of Scott's character's story arc from X-Men 1 and the comics is being given to Storm where no established history exist in comics or in film. Specifically she sees Xavier as a father figure, she is the one tipped to take over the school--neither have established history, and this was already set up in Movieverse with X1 dialouge exchange between Scott and Xavier.

[TromaFreak64]

Cyke is one of my personal favorites

Worthy you should update your avatar so that the image of Cyclops shooting is the one from tv spot #13 which is highly improved.

[ShadowBoxing]

A) This is the last movie of the trilogy, not an origin movie
B) It's not like Cyke never died in the comics
B is incorrect, actually the irony is he has never died. Even when he merged with Apocalypse the search for Cyclops was already greenlite and being written

"Justifiably angry"? Man, you just never stop with the side-splitters. I'll never understand this notion that the filmmakers owe the fans anything, but that's just me.They most certainly owe us something. They have no built in audience outside of us. We hype the movie, we are assured to go see the film. When the movie makers need to show they can make X amount minimum on a film they point to us. If these films were made for the general public, they'd just make all new characters and an all new storyline like they do with non franchise films.

[WorthyStevens]

Worthy you should update your avatar so that the image of Cyclops shooting is the one from tv spot #13 which is highly improved.

I'll have to look at that spot.

[Primogeniture]

I pretty much agree with you on most things Worthy. I can't say I disagree with you on this either, but the Storm stealing Cyclops role--this is horrible wording on our parts and done for convince what we are saying is elements of Scott's character's story arc from X-Men 1 and the comics is being given to Storm where no established history exist in comics or in film. Specifically she sees Xavier as a father figure, she is the one tipped to take over the school--neither have established history, and this was already set up in Movieverse with X1 dialouge exchange between Scott and Xavier.

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious now that they took lots of elements of Cyke's character and just handed it to Storm to do this time. And I figure Storm fans wouldn't be happy about her playing a poor man's Cyclops in this movie either. Why can't we get Storm stories instead of Cyclops stories poorly grafted onto Storm's character?

[CapBeerCino]

AKA "the Cyclops fans are over-acting before they see the movie...yet again!!!":o

If you dont want to hear our "over-reaction" what are you doing in the Cyclops thread?
I swear some people just like whining about Cyclops fans :mad: At least we have a real reason to be upset :o

[TromaFreak64]

Little things bother me. In the books, basically very little is mentioned of Cyclops beyond his death. Xavier barely seems effected, maybe the "He died when Jean died" line was set up to explain why no one seems to care--but its still a poor explanation. It's like no one would have come to his funeral at all had it not been shared with Xavier.

[CapBeerCino]

"Wolverine and the X-Men"

http://imdb.com/title/tt0772145/



http://forums.invisionpower.com/style_emoticons/default/sick.gif What do they think they're doing? "Spider-man and his amazing friends"?

[axex]

Ok, there's so much on the forum that I can't find good clear updates anymore. I read that there were conflicting reviews about the end (after the credits), one being Xavier, the other Cyclops. Anybody shed light on this?

[WorthyStevens]

http://forums.invisionpower.com/style_emoticons/default/sick.gif What do they think they're doing? "Spider-man and his amazing friends"?

I don't know, but if that show goes out like that, I won't be quiet about it.

[TromaFreak64]

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious now that they took lots of elements of Cyke's character and just handed it to Storm to do this time. And I figure Storm fans wouldn't be happy about her playing a poor man's Cyclops in this movie either. Why can't we get Storm stories instead of Cyclops stories poorly grafted onto Storm's character?

Good point, I am curious how they are receiving this new.

We have seen a lot of Wolverine fans upset that he is playing Cyclops...Storm fans will be happy with her expanded role, but its NOT a Storm role from the comics and this could upset them.

[CapBeerCino]

Little things bother me. In the books, basically very little is mentioned of Cyclops beyond his death. Xavier barely seems effected, maybe the "He died when Jean died" line was set up to explain why no one seems to care--but its still a poor explanation. It's like no one would have come to his funeral at all had it not been shared with Xavier.

"He died when Jean died" :mad:
You wait 3 year for a movie and get this. Somebody shoot me!

[TromaFreak64]

Ok, there's so much on the forum that I can't find good clear updates anymore. I read that there were conflicting reviews about the end (after the credits), one being Xavier, the other Cyclops. Anybody shed light on this?

We can not confirm anything, but we have a very good understanding of what all happens up until that "special ending"

[TromaFreak64]

"He died when Jean died" :mad:
You wait 3 year for a movie and get this. Somebody shoot me!

This basically what X says before he tells Storm he'd like her to take over some day...then everyone ignores Cyclops minus a few mentions from Jean following his death...and a few from Logan....beyond that, he has a headstone....not much else....

[axex]

This is all ridiculous. I hope Fox sees how much they screwed this thing up, even if Cyke really is just one character. That's like killing off Frodo at the beginning of Return of the King.

[Hugh'sMrs]

The draft AICN got their mitts on and that other review Fox claimed was fake are looking more on the money than I'd like to admit.

They changed a few details but the main points are still intact.


:(

[CapBeerCino]

This basically what X says before he tells Storm he'd like her to take over some day...then everyone ignores Cyclops minus a few mentions from Jean following his death...and a few from Logan....beyond that, he has a headstone....not much else....

OMG... It would be humiliating to pay money and watch Scott treated like this... I'm so hoping that's not true!

[wobbly]

Ok, there's so much on the forum that I can't find good clear updates anymore. I read that there were conflicting reviews about the end (after the credits), one being Xavier, the other Cyclops. Anybody shed light on this?

Both reviewers have been discredited: The cyclops one was at IMDB and that guy was describing a different film entirely, the Xavier one was posted here but that guy got caught out by a clip released only today. So the bottom line is that it's still up in the air just what that post credits scene may be (if it exists at all).

[cyke93]

"He died when Jean died" :mad:
You wait 3 year for a movie and get this. Somebody shoot me!


:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :: sharpening pitch fork

[cyke93]

While I don't agree that Storm's stealing Cyke's role, I HATE when people say we're overreacting. Cyke is one of my personal favorites, and to see his part greatly reduced when he should have had one of the starring roles, it pains me. And especially to see him fall victim to the popularity of Wolverine. :(

we have every right to "over react" how would they like if they portrayed their fav character like how they portrayed cyclops.

by the way the novels have turned out to be, it really sounds like they hated the character. omg, you know i expected them to kill him off but this .. this is just hateful and spits on all fans of cyclops.

[ginny_weasley]

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious now that they took lots of elements of Cyke's character and just handed it to Storm to do this time. And I figure Storm fans wouldn't be happy about her playing a poor man's Cyclops in this movie either. Why can't we get Storm stories instead of Cyclops stories poorly grafted onto Storm's character?

Good point. I agree. I feel like the same can be said of Wolverine. Storm and Wolverine shouldn't (and don't) need to other roles stuck on them. They're strong enough on their own - if written properly, they don't need to mooch off other characters. Wolverine didn't get to be the fan fav by starting out in the leading role of every xman medium - he didn't have to be.

I really feel as though Fox underestimated their general audience, and I wouldn't be surprised if some general moviegoers who enjoyed the first two x-films are scratching their heads over the treatment of Cyke in this film. He may have been diminished in the prior films, but I think the events of the love triangle in X2 - namely Jean's final choice of Scott over Wolverine - made it pretty clear Scott was ultimately the true soul mate of Jean.

[taintedFB]

Maybe that is part of the alternate endings. Who survived... Xavier or Scott...

Honestly, there is no reason to bring Xavier back. His story arc is finished! And if Magneto lives, that's stupid. His arc is also finished!

If it is Scott alive after the credits, that will at least give me hope that he will be a big part of a potential sequel... which if this does well, there will be a sequel..

Honestly, I blame Casting Hugh Jackman as the real problem in this franchise. Logan is supposed to be short hairy, older, and kinda ugly. Hugh is tall and handsome and that was Scott's niche! Honestly, these films should have been ensembles with Wolverine as a supporting character. Then doing Wolverine spin-offs would make sense (kinda like Elektra, small role in Daredevil, then her own spinoff). Right now the X-Movies all feel like Wolverine movies. So the spinoff is basically X4, exept cheaper because we don;t have all those other actors around Hugh! Grrr...

Still. I believe that there may be a surprise still in store for us Cyclops fans... That Cameron Bright photo, clearly Cyclops in uniform, in the middle of a scene... And the promos and quotes are severely misleading if he does not return after Alkali Lake. I doubt Fox would risk such a backlash, maybe they planned to, but they've had time to change it...

[cyke93]

"He died when Jean died" :mad:
You wait 3 year for a movie and get this. Somebody shoot me!

3 ****EN YEARS ! and this is what we get. you are absolutely right.

[PhePhe112]

I really hope your right taintedFB, I really, really do!

[fckable David]

Is there an official address at Fox where we could send our love letters?
I know it won't matter, but still I'd like to express my feelings.

[cyke93]

Maybe that is part of the alternate endings. Who survived... Xavier or Scott...

Honestly, there is no reason to bring Xavier back. His story arc is finished! And if Magneto lives, that's stupid. His arc is also finished!

If it is Scott alive after the credits, that will at least give me hope that he will be a big part of a potential sequel... which if this does well, there will be a sequel..

Honestly, I blame Casting Hugh Jackman as the real problem in this franchise. Logan is supposed to be short hairy, older, and kinda ugly. Hugh is tall and handsome and that was Scott's niche! Honestly, these films should have been ensembles with Wolverine as a supporting character. Then doing Wolverine spin-offs would make sense (kinda like Elektra, small role in Daredevil, then her own spinoff). Right now the X-Movies all feel like Wolverine movies. So the spinoff is basically X4, exept cheaper because we don;t have all those other actors around Hugh! Grrr...

Still. I believe that there may be a surprise still in store for us Cyclops fans... That Cameron Bright photo, clearly Cyclops in uniform, in the middle of a scene... And the promos and quotes are severely misleading if he does not return after Alkali Lake. I doubt Fox would risk such a backlash, maybe they planned to, but they've had time to change it...

i wouldn't put any thing pass those mother ****ers

[CapBeerCino]

** check out the new x3 cyclops positer HERE (http://www.newt.com/wohler/events/us-2002/vermont/barre/tombstone-01-big.jpg) !**

:) *Laughs a little. Then cry some*:(

[cyke93]

Is there an official address at Fox where we could send our love letters?
I know it won't matter, but still I'd like to express my feelings.

haha love letters. seriously we should. obviously lets not go premature. send it on may 27 once all our fears have been realized.

[taintedFB]

20th Century Fox Film Corp
10201 West Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035
Attn: Tom Rothman

(hope I don't get in trouble for this. But it is easily found online)