Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Maybe that is part of the alternate endings. Who survived... Xavier or Scott...

Honestly, there is no reason to bring Xavier back. His story arc is finished! And if Magneto lives, that's stupid. His arc is also finished!

If it is Scott alive after the credits, that will at least give me hope that he will be a big part of a potential sequel... which if this does well, there will be a sequel..

Honestly, I blame Casting Hugh Jackman as the real problem in this franchise. Logan is supposed to be short hairy, older, and kinda ugly. Hugh is tall and handsome and that was Scott's niche! Honestly, these films should have been ensembles with Wolverine as a supporting character. Then doing Wolverine spin-offs would make sense (kinda like Elektra, small role in Daredevil, then her own spinoff). Right now the X-Movies all feel like Wolverine movies. So the spinoff is basically X4, exept cheaper because we don;t have all those other actors around Hugh! Grrr...

Still. I believe that there may be a surprise still in store for us Cyclops fans... That Cameron Bright photo, clearly Cyclops in uniform, in the middle of a scene... And the promos and quotes are severely misleading if he does not return after Alkali Lake. I doubt Fox would risk such a backlash, maybe they planned to, but they've had time to change it...

Tainted, I hope you know that you're the only one keeping me with any kind of optimism right now.

There are 2 things that just don't add up to Cyclops dying:

1. Said Cameron Bright photo
2. Marsden's quote in Premiere about getting in the uniform (when talking about filming the movie, he wouldn't be talking about promotional shoots)

Here's my optimistic theory (although I don't know how likely this is): All of the novelizations, Jr., and Claremont's, were based off of early versions of the script (I.E. AICN script review) in which Cyclops did die. However, the script has been changed since then, and he doesn't.

[CapBeerCino]

Is there an official address at Fox where we could send our love letters?
I know it won't matter, but still I'd like to express my feelings.

They know. They go on-line and print fan reaction for Bratt to read just like in the first two films. Simon Kinsberg is getting more Cyke questions than anything.

They also know it wont affect their profits. :o

[Radagast_Prime]

"He died when Jean died" :mad:
You wait 3 year for a movie and get this. Somebody shoot me!

Like a slap in the face of all cyke fans:mad:

[cyke93]

Like a slap in the face of all cyke fans:mad:

forreal, my filling came out when i read that

[fckable David]

20th Century Fox Film Corp
10201 West Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035
Attn: Tom Rothman

(hope I don't get in trouble for this. But it is easily found online)

Thanks.

[cyke93]

Thanks.

interesting name to use there? i wonder if you get screwed just as much as fox has screwed cyclops ? heheehe:)

[ShadowBoxing]

Like a slap in the face of all cyke fans:mad:Especially since the point and main personality trait of Cyclops is he can deal with having a shi**y life. He has buried two wives and a mother and he was never broken.

[cyke93]

Maybe that is part of the alternate endings. Who survived... Xavier or Scott...
..

yeah itll prolyl be xavier ... patrick brings in all the trekkies

[CapBeerCino]

yeah itll prolyl be xavier ... patrick brings in all the trekkies

Lol

[Maze]

Maybe tainted..but at the french press screening from yesterday one guy saw that

Cyclope... C'est justement un des points "noirs" du film : il meurt bien... et pas de la meilleure des façons ! ...



Quote:
Cyclops ...that is really one of the flaw of the movie : he dies..and not in the best fashion !....

[ZombieONE]

guys im sorry. the studio is going to make their money. director, actors, producers have made their money. no body cares really. they could have easily written a bigger role for him but they chose not to.
they really dont care about characters, what they do care about are the ones that will make the money.
youve got 2 really big stars (hallie and hugh) in your movie, you are going to utilize them to the fullest. both stars want bigger roles, the director wants new characters, it comes a point when the movie is just too crowded to write all these characters.
cyke got ***** treatment in the first 2 movies, blame singer, if he had gotten a bigger role and was treated well then i know for a fact that his character would not have died in the third movie.

[fckable David]

interesting name to use there? i wonder if you get screwed just as much as fox has screwed cyclops ? heheehe:)

lol

Some friends gave me that name years ago and I was too lazy to think of something new to register here.

[Mar420x]

manye nothing new yet on cyclops it looks like his fate is sealed. DEAD! man oh man, fox. peace.

[cyke93]

you know how jean says to logan in tears "kill me" .. i think she was referring to all of the cyke fans reactions to cyke's .. but we'll be stuck there in the theatre cuz none of our other friends dont want to go .. and so we have to watch the whole movie with that in our minds and by the end of the movie.. after they show the jean logan wedding.. we really want to kill ourselves

[WorthyStevens]

Maybe tainted..but at the french press screening from yesterday one guy saw that

Cyclope... C'est justement un des points "noirs" du film : il meurt bien... et pas de la meilleure des façons ! ...



Quote:
Cyclops ...that is really one of the flaw of the movie : he dies..and not in the best fashion !....

Ugh. :mad:

[WorthyStevens]

guys im sorry. the studio is going to make their money. director, actors, producers have made their money. no body cares really. they could have easily written a bigger role for him but they chose not to.
they really dont care about characters, what they do care about are the ones that will make the money.
youve got 2 really big stars (hallie and hugh) in your movie, you are going to utilize them to the fullest. both stars want bigger roles, the director wants new characters, it comes a point when the movie is just too crowded to write all these characters.
cyke got ***** treatment in the first 2 movies, blame singer, if he had gotten a bigger role and was treated well then i know for a fact that his character would not have died in the third movie.

I really don't buy into that whole "promise" Singer gave Marsden. There's no reason he couldn't have had a larger screentime in X2 AND X3.

[cyke93]

Maybe tainted..but at the french press screening from yesterday one guy saw that

ca n'est pas bonn ! .. c'est tres tres TRES mal. cyclope va mourir pour rien !

[StevieNicks1988]

I hate to say it; but I'm starting to get the feeling that this could be the B&R of the X-Men series......

[ZombieONE]

I really don't buy into that whole "promise" Singer gave Marsden. There's no reason he couldn't have had a larger screentime in X2 AND X3.

exactly. you see if they would have focused more on cyke in the first 2 or even in the last one and developed a story that the audience cared about then he would not have been an "expendable" character in the third one.

crap rolls down hill but it started with Singer and it started with X1. Ratner could have tried to salvage what little character was left in cyke, but why do it? there was no real incentive to do so.

singer and the rest who worked on x1 & x2 sealed cykes fate for x3.

[Maze]

ca n'est pas bonn ! .. c'est tres tres TRES mal. cyclope va mourir pour rien !
oui.

the worse would be for a lot of fans to see Xavier ressurected ( the guy just confirmed it) and not cyke..

I am not a fan of ressurection as it is reaaly unclimatic..but they just can't ressurect Xavier and not cyke..

[strugler]

ca n'est pas bonn ! .. c'est tres tres TRES mal. cyclope va mourir pour rien !

translation: its not good!... cyclops dies for no reason



SCREW YOU FOX, i got rottman address all of us fans needs to boycot this movie and its merchandise and send a letter to fox lets make this franchise the first where fans will really make a difference NOTHING CAN STOP US

[CapBeerCino]

Ugh. :mad:

OMG I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING WHAT WERE FOX THINKING???
:( Shoot :( Me.

[Octoberist]

I hate to say it; but I'm starting to get the feeling that this could be the B&R of the X-Men series......

I wouldn't go that far, but I think it's going to be black sheep of the trilogy. I hope that I'm wrong.

The issue I had with this movie was the feeling that nothing was really...planned out. It's a vibe that I had from the very start, from the script to the pre-production.

[ginny_weasley]

OMG I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING WHAT WERE FOX THINKING???

$$$$ - what else? :down

[strugler]

:( Shoot :( Me.

BANG BANG BANG
and point the gun to mu head, BANG

[Octoberist]

oui.

the worse would be for a lot of fans to see Xavier ressurected ( the guy just confirmed it) and not cyke..

I am not a fan of ressurection as it is reaaly unclimatic..but they just can't ressurect Xavier and not cyke..

Wow...that makes sense. Let Xavier come back, and let Cyclops rot in the hell he's in...no closure what so ever!

[Maze]

a propos de Xavier : Donc tu le sais effectivement... Il y a une sorte de "renaissance" à la fin...

About Xavier :so you know it indeed..there is a sort of ressurection at the end indeed..

.Sorry everybody..hoping that there are really alternate endings..

[CapBeerCino]

$$$$ - what else? :down

http://cpuwiz.com/smiley/crying.gif I just cant believe it.

[Octoberist]

So, from what I seeing is that Cyclops not only dies, but the living characters don't care about him either. What the hell is kinberg and Penn thinking? It makes NO sense.

[strugler]

...
charles xavier????
oh my god so thats the surprise extra spoiler character that was not in the script ha haha hahahah AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SCREW YOU FOX BASTARDS dandes d'enfoirres (so that our french friends understand that we are pissed abt it too)
YOU GO TO HELL FOX, YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE ( a la mr Garrison)
BASTARDS,

[TromaFreak64]

Both reviewers have been discredited: The cyclops one was at IMDB and that guy was describing a different film entirely, the Xavier one was posted here but that guy got caught out by a clip released only today. So the bottom line is that it's still up in the air just what that post credits scene may be (if it exists at all).

I was the one who caught him...problem is a new clip came out today and he is right Spyke stabs Wolverine in the gut...I still havent' figured out why no blood is on the shirt in the Mag scene--but looks like Val was telling the truth.

[ginny_weasley]

http://cpuwiz.com/smiley/crying.gif I just cant believe it.

I know. Especially since I think the audience would have gone for a more prominent Cyke. The end of X2 made it clear he and Jean were meant to be - ppl would have got on board for Cyke being her redeemer.

[The Batman]

I really don't buy into that whole "promise" Singer gave Marsden. There's no reason he couldn't have had a larger screentime in X2 AND X3.


In X2, there was a subplot with Cyclops in strykers holding cells. They had to cut it, and i guess they didnt find the time to do anything else with cyke.

[CapBeerCino]

So, from what I seeing is that Cyclops not only dies, but the living characters don't care about him either. What the hell is kinberg and Penn thinking? It makes NO sense.

In x-2 nobody cared he was kidnaped so why start caring now? And why the hell did James agreed to do x-3?

[The Batman]

In x-2 nobody cared he was kidnaped so why start caring now? And why the hell did James agreed to do x-3?


Well, jean did say shes worried about scott before the whole logan/jean kissing thing.

[taintedFB]

Again, the previously mentioned screenings could be of different versions like Ashmore said. We really won't know FOR SURE until the movie's released...

I believe the earliest release date it the 24th? Somewhere around the world...
Cyke's little screentime in X2 was that film's only flaw and its a big one.

I buy, it because I felt there was this theme of the X-men being on their own and both leaders have been taken away from them...that sense of the weakened underdog...

[The Batman]

Again, the previously mentioned screenings could be of different versions like Ashmore said. We really won't know FOR SURE until the movie's released...

I believe the earliest release date it the 24th? Somewhere around the world...

Tainted, i know you're optimistic, but for now, you should just stop trying....right now, there is no hope...but we will see the 26th.

[TromaFreak64]

In X2, there was a subplot with Cyclops in strykers holding cells. They had to cut it, and i guess they didnt find the time to do anything else with cyke.

yes they went so far as to make a Cyclops holding cell action figure.

[wobbly]

And why the hell did James agreed to do x-3?

Money in the bank. At the end of the day a jobs a job.

[Maze]

charles xavier????
oh my god so thats the surprise extra spoiler character that was not in the script ha haha hahahah AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SCREW YOU FOX BASTARDS dandes d'enfoirres (so that our french friends understand that we are pissed abt it too)
YOU GO TO HELL FOX, YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE ( a la mr Garrison)
BASTARDS,

lol! indeed gros batard meme!!!

Enculé de sa mère!!LOL (mother****ers!)

[CapBeerCino]

Well, jean did say shes worried about scott before the whole logan/jean kissing thing.

That was worst imho than not saying anything at all. "Im worried about Sco-" Mouthful of Logan.:rolleyes: Only made Scott look like the other guy even more.

[strugler]

Again, the previously mentioned screenings could be of different versions like Ashmore said. We really won't know FOR SURE until the movie's released...

I believe the earliest release date it the 24th? Somewhere around the world...

stop denying yourself we all had hope and this hope is gone thats it, what else after he dies in the movie we will say maybe the dvd will have a different ending stop? making fox believing we are stupids and we will take any crap they make we should all make a stand a real stand and change the way people are screwing our beloved comic books, daredevil, electra, fantastic 4, we all stood quite but no not the xmen not this time they want war? they had all the time to change the whole script, they saw our reactions and then the give us that crap in the face, oh no not this time, we have the power to make them sorry so please guys lets use this power and lets use it wisely.

[Octoberist]

In x-2 nobody cared he was kidnaped so why start caring now? And why the hell did James agreed to do x-3?

because it seems like cyclops is dead and it's for good. It makes sense if and only if they bring Xavier back to life (magic voodoo) and not Cyclops? If that's the case, then he won a free trip to Neglect City.

[cyke93]

Again, the previously mentioned screenings could be of different versions like Ashmore said. We really won't know FOR SURE until the movie's released...

I believe the earliest release date it the 24th? Somewhere around the world...
Cyke's little screentime in X2 was that film's only flaw and its a big one.

I buy, it because I felt there was this theme of the X-men being on their own and both leaders have been taken away from them...that sense of the weakened underdog...

je ne comprends pas pourquoi il y a cinq versions differentes. il ne fait pas le sens. je suis désolé mais je pense que scott est mort

im going to france in 3 weeks hehe i need to practice.. but yeah .. y fox would have 5 versions ? scotts' grave just keeps getting deeper n deeper

[taintedFB]

yikes....someone's angry.

It seems that the biggest contreversy that maybe Fox is trying to guage is Cyclops's survival? 4-5 versions? What other changes could there be to warrant that many?

V1: Scott dies, mentioned a few times, never seen again.
V2. Scott dies, returns in a Jean memory/flashback
V3. Scott found in a coma at the lake, wakes up and joins the battle
V4. Scott is not found and thought dead, but returns after Xavier's death
V5. Scott thought dead, but we see he's survived (AFTER END CREDITS)

[Endeavor]

']a new wallpaper for the cyclops fans

do you like it?

-JeanGrey[GR]:xmen:
Awesome work

Love it :up:

[Maze]

we should all make a stand a real stand and change the way people are screwing our beloved comic books, daredevil, electra, fantastic 4, we all stood quite but no not the xmen not this time they want war? they had all the time to change the whole script, they saw our reactions and then the give us that crap in the face, oh no not this time, we have the power to make them sorry so please guys lets use this power and lets use it wisely.

we have to make a stand indeed:mad: :up:

[strugler]

lol! indeed gros batard meme!!!

Enculé de sa mère!!LOL (mother****ers!)

lol hey maze t'es d'ou?

PLZ guys read my previous post and this thread lets make a difference lets stop whining and lets make a freaking difference.

[wobbly]

I was the one who caught him...problem is a new clip came out today and he is right Spyke stabs Wolverine in the gut...I still havent' figured out why no blood is on the shirt in the Mag scene--but looks like Val was telling the truth.

Yeah I saw that clip after posting he'd been discredited...Profuse apologies to Val Verde if he was on the level, which does seem likely now.

My best guess regarding the shirt? He either changes it or it's a big continuity error...that's all I have to explain it.

[CapBeerCino]

we have to make a stand indeed:mad: :up:

Such as?

[cyke93]

stop denying yourself we all had hope and this hope is gone thats it, what else after he dies in the movie we will say maybe the dvd will have a different ending stop? making fox believing we are stupids and we will take any crap they make we should all make a stand a real stand and change the way people are screwing our beloved comic books, daredevil, electra, fantastic 4, we all stood quite but no not the xmen not this time they want war? they had all the time to change the whole script, they saw our reactions and then the give us that crap in the face, oh no not this time, we have the power to make them sorry so please guys lets use this power and lets use it wisely.

its all about $$ so do this, once the movie has finally been released and the first people get to see it on the midnight showing .. let them tell everyone they know how much it sux n not see it.. when the first day gross is high and you see a sharp drop over the next few days and especially after the 2nd weekend then people will talk and say what a god awful decision it was to screw cyclops.

[Endeavor]

I find it hard to believe that after two good movies and with Avi Arad and Shuller Donner still producing, and knowing the original story, that they would disregard Cyclops like this.

Lauren Shuller Donner doesn't care about Cyclops, she never has. She's a Logan fangirl and has been behind him always being front and center. She's the one that said she'd never do an X-Men movie without Wolverine. So don't look forward to her championing for more Cyclops development.

[Daniella]

I'm tired of being one of the sensible ones...

Come on guys, think... Fox is the studio who gave us Star Wars and X - Files.. ( I'm not putting my hand on the fire for Fox or anything... I'm just trying to have a little faith on them... )

In the X - Files movie, they shoot false scenes... this could be one... again, Fox isn't stupid... and I don't think that they would be stupid enough ( maybe a little ) to go and show the scenes when everyone is dying to know with 15 days to go...

They just give you something to continue talking about...

And maybe I'm wrong but i think that I'm right about this...

Dany

[cyke93]

we have to make a stand indeed:mad: :up:

I wonder if the marketing people had this idea for the movie .. "Take A Stand" has been their catch phrase for the movie .. its only right we use it as "Take a Stand.. against fox" hehe

[strugler]

Such as?

if the death of cyke is confirmed i will boycot the movie and all its merchandise, i will even return the junior novel i just got without reading it.
Also we can all write a letter to fox (i have rothman's address) and complain and tell them we are going to boycot the dvd for such and such reason.
if they want war we will give them one
anybody with me?

[J.Howlett]

You cats really need to get a grip. Scott lives on in the comics. This is just a movie. This is an alternate X-Men universe.

He had some good moments in three films....

Don't take it so personally.

[Endeavor]

regardless of whether Cyclops lives or dies, Tom Rothman needs to leave FOX:mad:

Agreed. :up:

[CapBeerCino]

if the death of cyke is confirmed i will boycot the movie and all its merchandise, i will even return the junior novel i just got without reading it.
Also we can all write a letter to fox (i have rothman's address) and complain and tell them we are going to boycot the dvd for such and such reason.
if they want war we will give them one
anybody with me?

Im with you! (if he is 100% dead)

[fckable David]

Fox is the studio who gave us Star Wars

Somebody should tell George Lucas! :eek:

[Maze]

lol hey maze t'es d'ou?

PLZ guys read my previous post and this thread lets make a difference lets stop whining and lets make a freaking difference.
De Issy les Moulineaux et toi? :)

Cap: I will see the movie.

but : i will pass the bad word of mouth.

i will not buy any dvd from fox from now on ..

i will certainly not buy THE Xmen 3 dvd ..

they only understand money..they say that the Xmen are a product..we are their clients ..i say that we deserve to have quality product:mad:

I say don't give them our money!:up:

[cyke93]

yikes....someone's angry.

It seems that the biggest contreversy that maybe Fox is trying to guage is Cyclops's survival? 4-5 versions? What other changes could there be to warrant that many?

V1: Scott dies, mentioned a few times, never seen again.
V2. Scott dies, returns in a Jean memory/flashback
V3. Scott found in a coma at the lake, wakes up and joins the battle
V4. Scott is not found and thought dead, but returns after Xavier's death
V5. Scott thought dead, but we see he's survived (AFTER END CREDITS)

are we so naive to think that these 5 different versions are all about cyclops !? i dont think so

it will refer to something other than him. its a big cast.. just choose one of the characters n bring something up about their character as a surprise.

[strugler]

Im with you! (if he is 100% dead)

as soon as we get a confirmation i will create a thread to gather all people who wants to join us and we will indeed write the letter and boycot all x3 marchendise.

[The Batman]

I'm tired of people thinking they're sensible because they're more gullible than others.....

Fox has screwed up numerous pictures. Chased directors out of hollywood. Many have sworn never to work with fox again. IMO, you're in denial if you honestly think Fox has the fans desires in their list of main priorities.

[CapBeerCino]

You cats really need to get a grip. Scott lives on in the comics. This is just a movie. This is an alternate X-Men universe.

He had some good moments in three films....

Don't take it so personally.

Taking it personally would be saying Fox did that to annoy me. This is pure disappointment.

[TromaFreak64]

You cats really need to get a grip. Scott lives on in the comics. This is just a movie. This is an alternate X-Men universe.

He had some good moments in three films....

Don't take it so personally.

The funny thing is Marvel has a way of making their comics imitate their movies...organic web, leather uniforms...could Cyclops dying be next?

[taintedFB]

Thank you!

Honestly, Fox is my favorite studio and is behind most of my favorite movies and television shows! And I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed Fantastic Four...I think it is suppsed to be lighter in tone than X-Men. And I loved the cast...

anyway, back to Cyclops. I know it doesn't look good, but I'm not going to give up ALL hope just yet...

BTW: I;m guessing that hospital scene in the end is what Stewart was referring to "never on paper". And honestly, its stupid. What, Xavier is now in someone else's body???? How dumb!

[The Batman]

You cats really need to get a grip. Scott lives on in the comics. This is just a movie. This is an alternate X-Men universe.

He had some good moments in three films....

Don't take it so personally.


you dont know if he has any good moments in X three....

[strugler]

De Issy les Moulineaux et toi? :)

Cap: I will see the movie.

but : i will pass the bad word of mouth.

i will not buy any dvd from fox from now on ..

i will certainly not buy THE Xmen 3 dvd ..

they only understand money..they say that the Xmen are a product..we are their clients ..i say that we deserve to have quality product:mad:

I say don't give them our money!:up:

je sui dorigine du maroc mai je vis aux us ;)

sweet we have 3 people so far who are ready to take the last stand.... against fox imperialism.

[Octoberist]

fox also brought us THe League of the Extraordinary Gentlemen, Daredevil, Electra, and Fantastic Four. That's not saying too much.

[cyke93]

you dont know if he has any good moments in three....

well the one where he gets fried better be good .. i mean they have to give us that

[CapBeerCino]

I'm tired of people thinking they're sensible because they're more gullible than others.....


What do you mean Bats?

[WorthyStevens]

I'm going to watch Family Guy to help take my mind off this travesty.

[Maze]

Fox certainey didn't gave us Star wars .

Lucas did.

Why did he made a deal with them to keep the right for himself?

money? yes , but especially: creative control..

[taintedFB]

Seriously though, MOST X-Men movie fans are the comic book fans... Average moviegoers are not the core audience for this kind of movie. So it would be STUPID for them to kill Scott this way. His death should have a purpose like Jean's in X2. A hero's death. Show that he is worthy of Jean's love and devotion. Not, OOps, there goes Scott...

[Octoberist]

Also, besides X-Men Fox doesn't have much of anything (besides Fantastic Four). In terms of franchises, Marvel was all they have right now.

[J.Howlett]

Even with that tainted, the general audience makes up most of the box office receipts and to Fox, Logan is the one who brings butts in the seats. I'm sorry to say that but that's how they look at it sometimes in this industry.

This film was in trouble the moment Fox didn't sign Singer and the writers because it was very clear that they wanted to finish off the franchise to which they set up.

[CapBeerCino]

I'm going to watch Family Guy to help take my mind off this travesty.

I hope it will help...

[Maze]

je sui dorigine du maroc mai je vis aux us ;)

sweet we have 3 people so far who are ready to take the last stand.... against fox imperialism.
Enchanté!:)

j'adore que cet endroit forumille de nationnalité si différentes les une des autres..

C assez incroyable , et quelque part ca donne de l'espoir je trouve..voir tous ces gens de culture de nationnalité différentes unis par l'amour des xmen! :) :up:

[The Batman]

What do you mean Bats?

I;m talking about the people who act like Fox isnt just about the worst major movie studio to work at. I'm talking about the people who suddenly think Fox gives a rats ass about fans. They dont. And as mentioned before, George lucus owns the star wars films. Fox just distributes it.

Fox does not care about the fans. The producers? Dont really care about the fans as much as they claim. Especially if they;re STILL going to kill cyclops after all these months

[taintedFB]

You know how at Alkali Scott first dismisses Jean as a dream...

What if in the final battle, Jean sees Scott, and thinks it must be a dream, because EVERYONE thought he was dead...

Taht would be a spoiler. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that Scott's death would be so blatantly pointed to in the trailers. From the first teaser. Such a death should not have been given away, unless it IS a red herring.

[Octoberist]

Seriously though, MOST X-Men movie fans are the comic book fans... Average moviegoers are not the core audience for this kind of movie. So it would be STUPID for them to kill Scott this way. His death should have a purpose like Jean's in X2. A hero's death. Show that he is worthy of Jean's love and devotion. Not, OOps, there goes Scott...

Even with the average moviegoers will be like "What just happened?" This is the third movie in the series. I'm sure that the average movie goer by now knows enough of the series to KNOW that it's weird to have a character like Cyclops die like a damn fool.

[Octoberist]

I;m talking about the people who act like Fox isnt just about the worst major movie studio to work at. I'm talking about the people who suddenly think Fox gives a rats ass about fans. They dont. And as mentioned before, George lucus owns the star wars films. Fox just distributes it.

Fox does not care about the fans. The producers? Dont really care about the fans as much as they claim. Especially if they;re STILL going to kill cyclops after all these months

I've got a freiend who was lucky enough to become an intern at Fox, and he says that they DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT MOVIES. Really. But he did say that they probably have the best marketing team in the business...

[Maze]

You know how at Alkali Scott first dismisses Jean as a dream...

What if in the final battle, Jean sees Scott, and thinks it must be a dream, because EVERYONE thought he was dead...

Taht would be a spoiler. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that Scott's death would be so blatantly pointed to in the trailers. From the first teaser. Such a death should not have been given away, unless it IS a red herring.

that was a press screening Tainted..and we are not sure that there are alternate ending..Ashmore said that the changes are minor..

[strugler]

Enchanté!:)
ravi aussi ;)

j'adore que cet endroit forumille de nationnalité si différentes les une des autres..

C assez incroyable , et quelque part ca donne de l'espoir je trouve..voir tous ces gens de culture de nationnalité différentes unis par l'amour des xmen! :) :up:
indeed :D

[The Batman]

I've got a freiend who was lucky enough to become an intern at Fox, and he says that they DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT MOVIES. Really. But he did say that they probably have the best marketing team in the business...


Exactly.

You wanna see how a company should handle a superhero franchise? Sony and Spider-Man, the top superhero franchise right now. WB and the new Batman franchise. WB and Superman Returns. Thats how you handle a superhero franchise. Not piss off fans with crappy script decisions....

[taintedFB]

I think since he's gone for most of the movie, changing Scott's fate is a matter of substituting words in a few lines of dialogue and then inserting him in the final scene with Jean. I think one of the versions should have Rogue NOT taking the cure. They pretty much just handed Anna Paquin her walking papers. Thanks Ana, we're done with Rogue now...LOL. See ya Jimmy, thanks for stopping by!

[TromaFreak64]

You know how at Alkali Scott first dismisses Jean as a dream...

What if in the final battle, Jean sees Scott, and thinks it must be a dream, because EVERYONE thought he was dead...

Taht would be a spoiler. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that Scott's death would be so blatantly pointed to in the trailers. From the first teaser. Such a death should not have been given away, unless it IS a red herring.

You'd think, but I can think of two more events-- a depowering and another X-man death--that Fox has been hinting since the beginning and they all appear to be true and no one seems to be arguing that.

[CapBeerCino]

I;m talking about the people who act like Fox isnt just about the worst major movie studio to work at. I'm talking about the people who suddenly think Fox gives a rats ass about fans. They dont. And as mentioned before, George lucus owns the star wars films. Fox just distributes it.

Fox does not care about the fans. The producers? Dont really care about the fans as much as they claim. Especially if they;re STILL going to kill cyclops after all these months

Fox aren't in it alone. Marvel has a say too.

[Daniella]

Fox certainey didn't gave us Star wars .

Lucas did.

Why did he made a deal with them to keep the right for himself?

money? yes , but especially: creative control..

Well, you know what I meant...

Okay, Fox didnm't give us Star Wars... but thy were the studio that Lucas choose to go and shoot his movies... imagine if Star wars were shooted by another studio... the pause would mean to have episodes 1,2and 3 all over again, in a new different version...

It's the same with The X - Files movie.... Chris Carter gave it to us...

And, it's the same with X - Men...

But this doesn't prove that Fox is stupid...

Dany

Dany

[Octoberist]

Fox was so anxious to release X3, that they didn't really think things through. Maybe that's why Marvel finally opened up their own studio through Paramount: So they don't have to deal with politics.

[strugler]

Exactly.

You wanna see how a company should handle a superhero franchise? Sony and Spider-Man, the top superhero franchise right now. WB and the new Batman franchise. WB and Superman Returns. Thats how you handle a superhero franchise. Not piss off fans with crappy script decisions....

totally agree plus avi arad said he thinks fans are stupid or something like who remember that interview lol so unprofessional

fan: hey mister arad i love your comic book movies i love xmen
arad: piss off you retarded brat, you are a just a stupid bit**

[The Batman]

Well, you know what I meant...

Okay, Fox didnm't give us Star Wars... but thy were the studio that Lucas choose to go and shoot his movies... imagine if Star wars were shooted by another studio... the pause would mean to have episodes 1,2and 3 all over again, in a new different version...

It's the same with The X - Files movie.... Chris Carter gave it to us...

And, it's the same with X - Men...

But this doesn't prove that Fox is stupid...

Dany

Dany


you're right. it dosent. The micromanaging and stupid decisions prove fox is stupid.

[WorthyStevens]

Exactly.

You wanna see how a company should handle a superhero franchise? Sony and Spider-Man, the top superhero franchise right now. WB and the new Batman franchise. WB and Superman Returns. Thats how you handle a superhero franchise. Not piss off fans with crappy script decisions....

Not to mention their TV division puts more **** on TV than any other station...

Celebrity Boxing anyone?

[taintedFB]

True. I find it hard to believe that Marvel would just allow Scott Summers to die such an UNheroic death. I would hope that Avi Arad would at least push for a meaningful death or better yet LIFE!

[Octoberist]

If I was Marvel, I would fight to buy back the rights of X-Men from Fox, and move it over to Paramount..

[The Batman]

Fox aren't in it alone. Marvel has a say too.

I dont think they have much of a say, just like DC dosent have a say when WB makes a DC movie.

[J.Howlett]

Lucas didn't chose Fox. Every studio turned him down with the original Star Wars film except Alan Ladd Jr who was running Fox at the time.

Lucas, more than anything, is loyal and because Ladd gave his film a chance, he rewarded him(when the original film hit big) with the distrubition rights.

Lucas cut a deal to keep the films for himself because Fox didn't believe in the project to begin with.

Not so with other franchises.

[Maze]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23299

:o

[strugler]

True. I find it hard to believe that Marvel would just allow Scott Summers to die such an UNheroic death. I would hope that Avi Arad would at least push for a meaningful death or better yet LIFE!

ha, avi arad doesnt give crap abt us he thinks we are stupid.
sometimes i feel that guy came from another world.... shiar anybody?

[The Batman]

Not to mention their TV division puts more **** on TV than any other station...

Celebrity Boxing anyone?


The Fox channel is nothing more than reality tv crap. The good stuff they put on fridays where it can die a quick death.

24 is awesome, though.

[J.Howlett]

Sony has handled Spider-Man the right way eventhough I think the first film is not great at all.

WB will do the right thing with Batman and Superman.

Still, Marvel is on the down slide now if this film doesn't work. They haven't had a great hit since Spider-Man 2.

[WorthyStevens]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23299

:o

Hah. That review's a fake. And AICN knows that.

[Maze]

BEWARE: EXTREME SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

let me tell u that i believe that x2 is hands down my favorite superhero movie so my expectations were high. ive followed the production the whole time and it seemed like more bad news after the other but i kept my hopes high because after all there was alot of negative hype for the original x-men wich i believe is great.

and now i have seen the movie.

this is the movie that will be remembered the most out of the whole trilogy. this will be the new film where people will say "what if this new movie turns out like x-men 3"

simply put this is the movie that destroys the beloved x-film franchise.

now there alot of people saying how length doesnt count. well what i have to say is **** you all this movie is an hour and a half. and i know people are saying that its a conclusion and doesnt need to be overly long but **** them too because this movie ends prematurely and feels very rushed. this is a big complaint about the movie but its not my biggest complaint.

the plot of this movie is stupid. it seems like its one long constant action scene with no motives lol. the cure is always present in action scenes but it all seems exaggerated since government are making the mutant cure an option so why fight about it. for example angel who is one of 2 new hyped characters has 3 scenes. one scene as a kid one scene in a building witch he jumps out and one final scene when he arrives at x-mansion.

the acting is average at times to poor and cheesy at others. im going to provide a basic run down of the film and avoid major spoilers in great detail however i will go over them.

basically the movie starts out at jeans house and prof x puts mind blocks on her fast forward to angel and an intro of beast then the return to alkali lake where cyclops is killed and jean is found (ill get more into cyclops later =( )

then its bak to the x mansion jean wakes up jean escapes prof x and wolverine tlk (this happens before jean wakes up )

prof x comes off as a bit of a jak ass the xmen then make a plan to get jean bak they go her house magneto makes jean and wolverine stay outside magneto betrays charles (for those who like magneto he really is evil in this one)

jean disinigrates charles juggernaut and wolverine and storm and callisto have small fights but end up retreating they return home magneto has a brotherhood meeting in a forest wolverine spies tries to get jean bak then gets owned by magneto.

then they move the golden gate bridge and attack alcatraz but =O the x men r come to stop them....yah so anyway pyros killed magnetos cured and wolverine kills jean and leaves the x-men.... right then the last shot is a cliff hanger...(magneto mite still have some of his powers apparently...hes playin chess alone in the x-men 1 island and one of the pieces moves on its own) im not even mentioning the danger room sequence...that was just ....ugh lets not talk about it.

its like they saved money by using sentinel head lights instead of showin the sentinel. but uve all seen it in the clip

the only 4 scenes i really cared for were mystiques curing cuz shes cool but she had some kik ass scenes and the chase wit juggernaut and kitty thru the worthington labs and wen magneto retrieves juggernaut and mystique from a convoy and when magneto preaches to the brotherhood in a church to recruit the "omega morlock muties" or somtin like that.

i hate how cyclops dies and they basically just leave it at that and it seems like the x-men don care hes dead:(.

the special effects are great however especially when jean blows up alcatraz and disengages like hundreds of people =D it made the movie slightly better. Wolverine seemed underplayed tho even though hes the main character. storm isnt halle berry hands down...

O and before i forget i loved the score for x-men 3 it was the best of the series and flattered the movie way to much. beast was also cool but underplayed

anyway the movie is totally rushed and slopped together. also this is supposed to be the last x-men movie but it doesnt come off that way. the ending makes you think there will for sure be more x-films even tho theyd suck because of no cyclops(yes he really is dead), professor x etc and it really has no sense of closure and casual fans who don keep up with movie productions will surely be expecting another one.

let me get this straight the movie is not as bad as batman and robin, superman 3 and 4, elektra, and only a bit better then fantastic four, but compared to x1 and x2 this movie is absolutely insulting and will be disliked by many fans and critics will hate it.

i dont want to get flamed for this but its not brett ratners fault the movies crap. the directing of this movie is mediocre but i blame the screen writer and possibly the editor and of course fox studios for this garbage.

after the credits theres a scene in a hospital where professor x sort of comes bak but i think its meant for jokes so don bother staying.

well this is very bad news for all and i hope the fans like this movie and this review is jus me.

good luk x-fans =(
film where people will say "what if this new movie turns out like x-men 3" [/QUOTE]

[WorthyStevens]

The Fox channel is nothing more than reality tv crap. The good stuff they put on fridays where it can die a quick death.

24 is awesome, though.

It's one of the few, and I mean few, good shows on that network.

[Daniella]

This doesn't mean that Fox would tell what happens in the movie...

If they are so stupid, why Marvel would do a movie, the X - Men movie with tem ? Why they didn't choose another studio ?

Dany

[fckable David]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23299

:o

Horrible.

[The Original Bamfer]

Man, we ***** a lot about this issue. This would be an issue if it existed. We know so little about this movie. This is what happens when we're tempted to be spoiled - it ruins the movie for us. We think we know all that will happen, and go in with a notion that it will suck because we know, from the rumors, it will. In actuality, we know Beast is in the movie, Phoenix too, the final battle takes place at Alcatraz, GG Bridge gets lifted, there is a DR sequence with a holographic Sentinel... thats about it. There is so much they will keep no matter what to surprise us. So many damn things hint toward Scott living - him wearing an x-suit in the promos, promotion in general, the fact the writers sadi that everything will be concluded (mysteriously killing off Cyclops doesn't conclude ANYTHING), the writers love his character - there's too much crap not to STILL be hopeful. Yeah, he doesn't appear much in the novel - They want to surprise us... I don't know. You don't know. We don't know.

[Maze]

there might be alternate endings but he was dead yesterday at the french press screening Bamfer .

[CapBeerCino]

totally agree plus avi arad said he thinks fans are stupid or something like who remember that interview lol so unprofessional

fan: hey mister arad i love your comic book movies i love xmen
arad: piss off you retarded brat, you are a just a stupid bit**

Arad revived Marvel and made some very smart moves along the way. Im sure he didn'y say (or meant to say) the fans are stupid. Must be his English... He seem very passionate about his heroes. I still dont understand how could he let that happen...

[ShadowBoxing]

Man, we ***** a lot about this issue. This would be an issue if it existed. We know so little about this movie. This is what happens when we're tempted to be spoiled - it ruins the movie for us. We think we know all that will happen, and go in with a notion that it will suck because we know, from the rumors, it will. In actuality, we know Beast is in the movie, Phoenix too, the final battle takes place at Alcatraz, GG Bridge gets lifted, there is a DR sequence with a holographic Sentinel... thats about it. There is so much they will keep no matter what to surprise us. So many damn things hint toward Scott living - him wearing an x-suit in the promos, promotion in general, the fact the writers sadi that everything will be concluded (mysteriously killing off Cyclops doesn't conclude ANYTHING), the writers love his character - there's too much crap not to STILL be hopeful. Yeah, he doesn't appear much in the novel - They want to surprise us... I don't know. You don't know. We don't know.Except at this point we are about 95% sure....maybe 97% with the movie reviews coming out that he dies.

[PikaZeroX]

Can I change my vote to "Dies at Alkali Lake"?

[strugler]

(mysteriously killing off Cyclops doesn't conclude ANYTHING), the writers love his character - there's too much crap not to STILL be hopeful. Yeah, he doesn't appear much in the novel - They want to surprise us... I don't know. You don't know. We don't know.

i also started to doubt than even fox doesnt know, seriously

[DarknessOfDeath]

on the contrary...this is just a slap in the face for Cyke fans. Now I don't call myself a die hard fan of Cykes. I like the character and he was my fave in the xuniverse... but with Scott dead in the movieverse... his relationship with Jean blows. :down There I said it.

[Daniella]

Man, we ***** a lot about this issue. This would be an issue if it existed. We know so little about this movie. This is what happens when we're tempted to be spoiled - it ruins the movie for us. We think we know all that will happen, and go in with a notion that it will suck because we know, from the rumors, it will. In actuality, we know Beast is in the movie, Phoenix too, the final battle takes place at Alcatraz, GG Bridge gets lifted, there is a DR sequence with a holographic Sentinel... thats about it. There is so much they will keep no matter what to surprise us. So many damn things hint toward Scott living - him wearing an x-suit in the promos, promotion in general, the fact the writers sadi that everything will be concluded (mysteriously killing off Cyclops doesn't conclude ANYTHING), the writers love his character - there's too much crap not to STILL be hopeful. Yeah, he doesn't appear much in the novel - They want to surprise us... I don't know. You don't know. We don't know.

Finally one the understands...:up:

Dany

[Maze]

Majik1387 please , i respect your choice ( even if there i hope that you are expecting the worse..)

be respecful :)

[CapBeerCino]

Can I change my vote to "Dies at Alkali Lake"?

I was just looking at the Supposedly Dies Early But Returns In The Final Battle 57%
The irony. How could we think that? Only a loved and well developed character would return for a final scene cause that would be an emotional highlight. For a characteer the general audience barely even know it would just be silly.

[Maze]

Finally one the understands...:up:

Dany
Understand what?

Scott was dead yesterday at a press screening .

that's not one of this previews where they invite the public to test the movie ,and maybe to change it eventually... that was a press screening..

[strugler]

hey maze, how reliable is the reviews you got? are they from close friends?

[ginny_weasley]

Understand what?

scott was dead yesterday at press screening do you know what that mean?

that's not one of this previews where they invite the public to test the movie ,and maybe to change it eventually... that was a press screening..

O man, I think it's finally really sunk in for me....:(

[CapBeerCino]

Understand what?

scott was dead yesterday a press screening .

that's not one of this previews where they invite the public to test the movie ,and maybe to change it eventually... that was a press screening..

Did I say Shoot Me already?

[The Original Bamfer]

Except at this point we are about 95% sure....maybe 97% with the movie reviews coming out that he dies.

Reviews? They're not real, as far as I'm concerned.

[Daniella]

I was just looking at the Supposedly Dies Early But Returns In The Final Battle 57%
The irony. How could we think that? Only a loved and well developed character would return for a final scene cause that would be an emotional highlight. For a characteer the general audience barely even know it would just be silly.

In the movies, we don't know a lot about him, but can you say it fron the cartoons and the comics ?

Come on... we don't know... thre's a big chance that we will be surprised on this movie...

Dany

[strugler]

Did I say Shoot Me already?

yes you did and i shot you twice how come you still alive???
are you wolverine??? ITS YOU WOLVERINE?
guys here is the guy that took cykes role lets beat him to death lol

here you go again BANG

[DarknessOfDeath]

so ... Press screening... Theatrical screening..?? difference?

[DarknessOfDeath]

yes you did and i shot you twice how come you still alive???
are you wolverine??? ITS YOU WOLVERINE?
guys here is the guy that took cykes role lets beat him to death lol

here you go again BANG


I actually already did that... :) last week. U probably missed it but I would do it again...

[PikaZeroX]

I just don't get it.. What a waste of Marsden..

All the evidence we had, the Cameron Bright photo.. Cyclops in X suit.. Ugh.

**** this film, and **** Simon and Zak. But most importantly, **** Fox.

I'm done.

[Maze]

hey maze, how reliable is the reviews you got? are they from close friends?
Very reliable: the first source is from one of the most popular radio in France..

they sponsered X3 and they did go to that press screening yesterday.(that Xverse confirmed)
they can't lie..or they would have serious problems..that said they trashed the movie

The second one , i had more doubts at first: the guy is really reliable , i know him really well since month and he is not the kind of guy who would lie about something like that.BUT he had his infos from one of his best buddy (yes i know) who saw the movie at the press screening yesterday.so i was saying to myself that maybe the guy was pulling his leg when i saw a third review ( slightly positive ) from a gur who tried ( really too hard) to defend the movie..the guy didn't want' to reveal any spoiler but i convinced him to talk to me by mp : he talked about cyke and Xavier..

so all seem connected : all those review and the first negative Aicn review..

apart if there is a miracle Scott is dead .sorry.

[Daniella]

Understand what?

Scott was dead yesterday at a press screening .

that's not one of this previews where they invite the public to test the movie ,and maybe to change it eventually... that was a press screening..

I meant about the movie itself... the finals sentences, " they want to surpise us " and " we don't know anything yet " are the keys... I meant that senteces... so, a person who understand this phrases...

Dany

[Maze]

so ... Press screening... Theatrical screening..?? difference?
big difference : think about it

You are showing the movie so the press talk about it ..you can't "lie" about it..

[The Original Bamfer]

Could it be that the movie we see is different than the one they see? They want us to be surprised... wouldn't they leave out something that people (reviewers) can't keep their moths shut up about? I think he lives, more than ever. Call it denial, and I'll know you're bull****.

[CapBeerCino]

yes you did and i shot you twice how come you still alive???
are you wolverine??? ITS YOU WOLVERINE?
guys here is the guy that took cykes role lets beat him to death lol

here you go again BANG

Doesn't work. Try demoleculerzation (however its written) I heard its a hit. :(

[WorthyStevens]

Could it be that the movie we see is different than the one they see? They want us to be surprised... wouldn't they leave out something that people (reviewers) can't keep their moths shut up about? I think he lives, more than ever. Call it denial, and I'll know you're bull****.

I hope, I hope. :(

[DarknessOfDeath]

big difference : think about it

You are showing the movie so the press talk about it ..you can't "lie" about it..

I see... so thats it then. -takes a deep breath- There is no hope.

[CapBeerCino]

I actually already did that... :) last week. U probably missed it but I would do it again...

When?

[strugler]

Very reliable: the first source is from one of the most popular radio in France..

they sponsered X3 and they did go to that press screening yesterday.(that Xverse confirmed)
they can't lie..or they would have serious problems..that said they trashed the movie

The second one , i had more doubts at first: the guy is really reliable , i know him really well since month and he is not the kind of guy who would lie about something like that.BUT he had his infos from one of his best buddy (yes i know) who saw the movie at the press screening yesterday.so i was saying to myself that maybe the guy was pulling his leg when i saw a thrid review ( slightly positive ) from a gur who tried ( really too hard) to defend the movie..the guy didn't want' to reveal any spoiler but i convinced him to talk to me by mp : he talked about cyke and Xavier..

so all seem connected : all those review and the first negative Aicn review..

apart if there is a miracle Scott is dead .sorry.

I just officially declared war on fox, i am going to return the junior novel tomorrow mornning. Thats it ITS OOOOOOOON

by the way i also found the clips we saw today had cheesy dialogues.

ITS OOOOOOOOON

[TheVileOne]

I already debunked the reasonings for the costume photos and the Leech scene.

[CapBeerCino]

by the way i also found the clips we saw today had cheesy dialogues.


Really? "Storm they're not ready-Logan dont do this!-we work as a team" cheesy?

[DarknessOfDeath]

When?

hang on :) I'll find it... I think it was in this thread...

[Daniella]

Ah, come on Darkness... don't give up yet...the evidences may be wrong...

[CapBeerCino]

Leech scene.

That said nothing to begin with. Say it was really him. James Marsden was on the x-3 set, you dont say...

[PWN3R]

And another thing, for any of us hoping the secret scene at the end will be of Cyclops, it is not.

TheXverse gives it away when they bold 'x' in extra. Get it, X? As in....yeah.

I am frustrated with FOX. They gave a secret scene with Daredevil. I bet they thought the fans would love that too. :rolleyes:

[strugler]

Really? "Storm they're not ready-Logan dont do this!-we work as a team" cheesy?

no not that but like mistyque saying meatsack and callisto where is your tatoo and oh my god she has quicksilver power how cheap is that lets give her cyclops optic blasts as well since they killed him,
man you know what all the xmen should stop by cykes grave before they go to the final battle and pee on it, thatll be emotional,
anyway the x3 preview is abt to start see you afterwards

[Maze]

let's say that maybe yep maybe we will see a different movie , the chances are so slim , that if some of us don't accept what happen for the moment , they will be even more disapointed.

[Daniella]

That said nothing to begin with. Say it was really him. James Marsden was on the x-3 set, you dont say...

Yeah, but he was dressed with the X - suit ( at least this is what i think ) and his visor...

Dany

[DarknessOfDeath]

okay I can't seem to find my own post :( when I attacked Wolverine viciously with my own claws.

[CapBeerCino]

no not that but like mistyque saying meatsack and callisto where is your tatoo and oh my god she has quicksilver power how cheap is that lets give her cyclops optic blasts as well since they killed him,
man you know what all the xmen should stop by cykes grave before they go to the final battle and pee on it, thatll be emotional,
anyway the x3 preview is abt to start see you afterwards

LOL! Let us know!... (Some of us dont live in the states!)

[fallenAngel]

In the words of Reverend Lovejoy. "It's all over people, we don't have a prayer."

I knew he was dead from the start. The general Audience never knew/liked Cyke because people have been programmed into thinking the nice good guy isn't a good character for film. We need the Bad boy to have fun. I was watching X2 with some friends and someone said how lame Cyclops was. I was silent and then he turned to me and said, "sorry, I know you like him"

I only wish he didn't have to go in such a lame retarded way. And if there is future films, I'm not so sure about him returning unless its really well done. I hate retconning, but the character never even came close to his potential.

And its a press screening, not a test screening. It's unlikely anything will change.

Greatest injustice in film history.

[Daniella]

"Uh yes. Its not really a love scene. It might turn into one for a moment but it goes into different places after that. I come out of a somewhat of a coma situation." -Famke Janssen

Is she tealking about the scene between Phoenix and Logan, Darkness ?

Dany

[findingserenity]

hmm... he was in the preview.

[CapBeerCino]

Greatest injustice in film history.

Sound like it's about time to update your Location.

[CapBeerCino]

Is she tealking about the scene between Phoenix and Logan, Darkness ?

Dany

Yep. It's from the talk show.

[Hugh'sMrs]

I've got a freiend who was lucky enough to become an intern at Fox, and he says that they DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT MOVIES. Really. But he did say that they probably have the best marketing team in the business...

The marketing division is comprised of kids with little or no marketing experience. I'm guessing your friend is a kid himself who thinks anyone a year or so older knows everything. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[DarknessOfDeath]

Is she tealking about the scene between Phoenix and Logan, Darkness ?

Dany

uh no... My own post ... okay pardon? u mean my quote? yeah she is...about the Jean/Logan clip.

[fallenAngel]

Sound like it's about time to update your Location.

done.

God I really shouldn't care as much as I do.

[DarknessOfDeath]

hmm... he was in the preview.

say again?

[ShadowBoxing]

hmm... he was in the preview.Yep right before he dies.

[The Original Bamfer]

They showed the Logan/Cyke Scene... it was great. Everything in that bit was amazing. I loved it all.

[ginny_weasley]

At least he got a jab at Logan in the preview...

my roomie was like "oooh" in a "that's low" sorta way

I was like "no, trust me, he can say that"

[strugler]

just saw the preview for x3 it was abt 4 long scenes, they showed old good cyke talking to wolverine before he was leaving to alkali (to meet his demise i presume:( ) they shwed angel scene, beast coming to tell them abt the cure, magneto speech in the cathedral and thats it they also said that newxt week they will introduse each mutant and villain separatly as part of a second special
it looked better than the clips still i hate callisto's powers.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yep right before he dies.

Likewise... so long Silm Summers.

[PikaZeroX]

There's our confirmation right there.. It's over for Cyclops. One of the reviews mentioned he was SUPPOSED to be in the Danger Room but he goes AWOL and just leaves.

Cyclops, grave, the end.

By the way, the movie looks like a complete joke in full action.

[PWN3R]

The part with Cykes lashing out at Wolverine was the best. Dang, just to think if he was the star of the X-films, and how cool they would be. :(

*sighs*

[hue]

you're right. it dosent. The micromanaging and stupid decisions prove fox is stupid.

Stupid doesn't really describe it at all. I can imagine if there wasn't a book on which to base it on. But there is a book, or series of books for gods sake. How do you get it wrong when you have it right in front of you, all written out already years ago? Of course they could change things, but not this drastically, especially when you know the fans of this series are going to want to see something similar to the books. Who out there who has ever seen the last few pages of the dark pheonix saga is going to want to see Wolverine replace Scott? I just doesn't make sence. Any true fan could have done this better, and we wouldn't have to be paid writers to do it.

[DarknessOfDeath]

They showed the Logan/Cyke Scene... it was great. Everything in that bit was amazing. I loved it all.

I wanna see... :(

[ginny_weasley]

The part with Cykes lashing out at Wolverine was the best. Dang, just to think if he was the star of the X-films, and how cool they would be. :(

*sighs*

It was the best. Mardsen could have carried things if he only had the chance....

[CapBeerCino]

The exchange between Scott and Logan was great, I think he said not everybody can heal as fast you do. Great stuff!

Sound good. Too bad the next scene he dies.

[hue]

its all about $$ so do this, once the movie has finally been released and the first people get to see it on the midnight showing .. let them tell everyone they know how much it sux n not see it.. when the first day gross is high and you see a sharp drop over the next few days and especially after the 2nd weekend then people will talk and say what a god awful decision it was to screw cyclops.

Sounds like a plan

[lordofthenerds]

Yeah, that Cyke and Logan scene was definently the best clip out of everything in that preview imo. :up:

[PWN3R]

It was the best. Mardsen could have carried things if he only had the chance....

He really could have, I don't care how much I enjoy X3, the whole time I see it I will be thinking of Cykes...:mad:

[CapBeerCino]

And another thing, for any of us hoping the secret scene at the end will be of Cyclops, it is not.

TheXverse gives it away when they bold 'x' in extra. Get it, X? As in....yeah.

I am frustrated with FOX. They gave a secret scene with Daredevil. I bet they thought the fans would love that too. :rolleyes:

WTF?! Damn :( :( :(

[CapBeerCino]

I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...

[fallenAngel]

once upon a time, not two days ago, X3 looked good.

[CapBeerCino]

once upon a time, not two days ago, X3 looked good.

I really cant believe it!!! I waited so long for x-3 that's really ******up!

[gap5ewl]

i actually feel much more positive about cyclops fate after seeing that clip!

[ginny_weasley]

At least he's got that scene with Wolverine. It really was the best of the lot we saw tonight. And I'm not just saying that because I like Cyke, or because I liked watching him get a dig in against Wolverine. It was a good scene on its own merit.

[cyke93]

was there any footage that would suggest that cyclops does live .. with that fox special ?

[ShadowBoxing]

There's our confirmation right there.. It's over for Cyclops. One of the reviews mentioned he was SUPPOSED to be in the Danger Room but he goes AWOL and just leaves.

Cyclops, grave, the end.

By the way, the movie looks like a complete joke in full action.No its certainly is not fine cinema, and IMO a step down from X1 and X2.

[ShadowBoxing]

was there any footage that would suggest that cyclops does live .. with that fox special ?hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no

[strugler]

too bad, masden had the best performance in the whole 7 mn clip.
but guys seriously we all knew it will be terrible but we were in a denial, juste check the writers bibliography they havent done any one single good movie NON, NADA, RIEN, NOTHING how do you expect them to handle such a great characters, and now penn is going for hulk 2 good luck with that he will probably kill the hulk in the first 20mn like he will demolucirized and they will focus on wlverine in the hulk movie too.
stupid writers stupid decisions

[gap5ewl]

I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...I cant believe he dies...
thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...

[CapBeerCino]

was there any footage that would suggest that cyclops does live .. with that fox special ?

Him leaving and saying to Logan that no every one can heal as fast as you.

[cyke93]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no

thought so

[fallenAngel]

At least he has good scenes before he dies. I guess that is all we could have really hoped for. Hopefully he will be a presence that is missed. By any audience member.

[CapBeerCino]

thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...

The movie was already showed to the press! People saw him die! Or will you wait till the end of the credits to be sure?

[Maze]

thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...thats still uncomfirmed...
Gap , really i don't wan't to be an ass but That was confirmed in a press screening. not a test screening ..they showed it to the press.

That is over, sorry.

[CapBeerCino]

At least he has good scenes before he dies. I guess that is all we could have really hoped for. Hopefully he will be a presence that is missed. By any audience member.

A one liner with Wolverine and a kiss with Jean...

[gap5ewl]

Gap , really i don't wan't to be an ass but That was confirmed in a press screening. not a test screening ..they showed it to the press.

That is over imo.
can i get the link?

[ginny_weasley]

At least Scott wasn't too angsty in that scene. I'm glad he's not all crawling into a hole to weep. He can still take a jab at wolverine.

[CapBeerCino]

That is over imo.

I never thought I'd see the day. I was sure he was the secret scene.

[ShadowBoxing]

Gap , really i don't wan't to be an ass but That was confirmed in a press screening. not a test screening ..they showed it to the press.

That is over, sorry.Oh yeah he is so dead now folks, I mean it should have been blazingly apparent when the book(s) came out, but after that press screening, man there ain't no hope, no hope at all.

[fallenAngel]

A one liner with Wolverine and a kiss with Jean...


I haven't seen the clip, eveyone else was saying it was good. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm trying very very hard to be even slightly optimistic.

[TromaFreak64]

Fox aren't in it alone. Marvel has a say too.

Not a whole lot. You should look at the terms to the leasing of the characters. They really don't have an overall vito or anything with most cases, this is part of why they are changing to produce their own films--which will also increase their profits substantionally and give them more control.

[PikaZeroX]

Cyclops has a total of TWO character interactions before death.

LOL

[ShadowBoxing]

At least Scott wasn't too angsty in that scene. I'm glad he's not all crawling into a hole to weep. He can still take a jab at wolverine.Sorry I disagree. Cyclops is not at all like that. When Jean Grey came back he got drunk and they found him at the marina, sure he acted like a jerk...but he wouldn't walk around insulting people, not his style unless they f--- up in the danger room. Cyclops deals with adversity by bottling it up, not getting all emo about it and storming out. Furthermore Wolverine sure as damn hell did not just tell Cyclops to "move on"....

[Hugh'sMrs]

Could it be that the movie we see is different than the one they see? They want us to be surprised... wouldn't they leave out something that people (reviewers) can't keep their moths shut up about? I think he lives, more than ever. Call it denial, and I'll know you're bull****.

Why would Fox do that for THIS particular movie when they've never done anything like that for any other one?

Also I don't think that's standard practice --- to show one version for review and another for general release.

I'd love to grasp at straws too but they've all been demolecularized.

[hue]

Good point, I am curious how they are receiving this new.

We have seen a lot of Wolverine fans upset that he is playing Cyclops...Storm fans will be happy with her expanded role, but its NOT a Storm role from the comics and this could upset them.

Also this is still a Halle Berry storm which does not work anyway.

[Maze]

can i get the link?
Go at the Xverse thread , you will find all the clues.

[ginny_weasley]

Sorry I disagree. Cyclops is not at all like that. When Jean Grey came back he got drunk and they found him at the marina, sure he acted like a jerk...but he wouldn't walk around insulting people, not his style unless they f--- up in the danger room. Cyclops deals with adversity by bottling it up, not getting all emo about it and storming out. Furthermore Wolverine sure as damn hell did not just tell Cyclops to "move on"....

*sigh* I guess you're right. It's still wrong when someone has to tell Cyke to move on.

But I guess it could have been worse. He didn't look completely crushed....

Man...I can't believe this is the sort of thing I have to grasp on to. It shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be reduced to begging for subpar scraps of a character....

[strugler]

i just did let simon kinberg knows that we are serious abt all this and we are going to make a stand, i also jsut got another confirmation that he really dies.

here is what i posted for simon in the xverse thread you guys let me know what you think and plz whoever agrees with me pm me as i want to start making the list i am so serious abt it:

hi simon,
i just got a confirmation from a friend of mine who attended the press screening in france last night and he told me about cyclops fate(i got other confirmation form other people but i don trust them like this one, but they all told me the same thing), and i want just to let you know that we started a little association to boycot all x3 eated merchandise including the movie and its dvd release because we felt betrayed and we felt you guys did not respect us, also we are in the process of writing a letter to fox and rotman explaining why are we pissed off and why are we boycoting the movie. This is not a threat i just felt that you guys should know, we will not send the letter until we get confirmation on the release date (although we know that press screening is the final cut).
How do you feel about that and how could you guys ignore all of us?
thank you

[strugler]

by the way i ordered the official novel from walmart but just canceled it as i am officially boycoting all x3 merchandise

[CapBeerCino]

Cyclops has a total of TWO character interactions before death.

LOL

And Worthy you wanted to see him with Angel... Im too depressed to go to sleep and it's like 4 am.

[DarknessOfDeath]

i just did let simon kinberg knows that we are serious abt all this and we are going to make a stand, i also jsut got another confirmation that he really dies.

here is what i posted for simon in the xverse thread you guys let me know what you think and plz whoever agrees with me pm me as i want to start making the list i am so serious abt it:

hi simon,
i just got a confirmation from a friend of mine who attended the press screening in france last night and he told me about cyclops fate(i got other confirmation form other people but i don trust them like this one, but they all told me the same thing), and i want just to let you know that we started a little association to boycot all x3 eated merchandise including the movie and its dvd release because we felt betrayed and we felt you guys did not respect us, also we are in the process of writing a letter to fox and rotman explaining why are we pissed off and why are we boycoting the movie. This is not a threat i just felt that you guys should know, we will not send the letter until we get confirmation on the release date (although we know that press screening is the final cut).
How do you feel about that and how could you guys ignore all of us?
thank you
:up:

[Maze]

:) :up:

it seem fine Strugler

to be honest , i'm a little tired ( it's three am here ) lol so i will read it anew tomorow to be sure , but it seem fine :)

[fallenAngel]

I'd love to grasp at straws too but they've all been demolecularized.

That was perhaps, too clever.

I really hate that word.

[CapBeerCino]

by the way i ordered the official novel from walmart but just canceled it as i am officially boycoting all x3 merchandise

What can I say... I'll probably do the same but simply cause I dont want a book/DVD with Cyke dying in it.

[Maze]

I reread it it is quite good :up:

Now we are in business .

[ShadowBoxing]

I will see the film...I am NOT buying the DVD

[ginny_weasley]

You know, this just puts a damper on the whole Xmen movie experience for me....

I won't be able to watch my X1 and X2 without knowing what horrible fate awaits Cyke. Really, it's awful.

[PikaZeroX]

**** Fox, I don't usually condone this but I really wouldn't care if everyone downloaded X3 instead of paying $10 to see the biggest letdown of the summer.

[fckable David]

You know, this just puts a damper on the whole Xmen movie experience for me....

I won't be able to watch my X1 and X2 without knowing what horrible fate awaits Cyke. Really, it's awful.

Exactly.

[Nightwing 007]

I'll still go & see the film.Hopefully,as many of you have already stated,maybe someday there will be an X Men film with a better outcome for the team's real leader...

[Maze]

I will see the film...I am NOT buying the DVD

Ditto.

...and they can say goodbye to my money for all their other products.

Tomorow the word will be out at my work , friends family and all the people who care about good cinema.

[strugler]

I will see the film...I am NOT buying the DVD

thats fine watching one time, i watched x1 twice and x2 three times but this movie im not going to watch no dvd nothing.
im waiting for you pms guys so we can start making a professional looking letter ;)

and you bet maze we are in business im tired of been, as a fan, treated like trash.

[StevieNicks1988]

Like they really give a damn while millions will take your place anyway.... It's a lost cause. They don't care.

[strugler]

Ditto.

...and they can say goodbye to my money for all their other products.

Tomorow the word will be out at my work , friends family and all the people who care about good cinema.
ill do the same bro

[LastSunrise1981]

I will see the film...I am NOT buying the DVD

Guess what? You're still giving Fox money by seeing the film. :rolleyes:

[Maze]

Like they really give a damn while millions will take your place anyway.... It's a lost cause. They don't care.
Remember Batman and Robin? fox should have learnt their lesson..

do you like domino ? i love it ;)

[StevieNicks1988]

I mean, really. It's obvious they don't give a damn, so why bother? They won't listen anyway and your letter or whatever won't probably even be opened or read. They never did care, so why would they care now?

[strugler]

Like they really give a damn while millions will take your place anyway.... It's a lost cause. They don't care.

oh yes they do, we are money for them believe me they sure will now lets make a difference and make comic book mvies good for future genartion lol thats so dramatic but seriously they do care remember street fighter the vandame movie? vadame was going to produce a sequel but peopel sent him letters and petitions not to do it lol
we can do it people.

[Maze]

I mean, really. It's obvious they don't give a damn, so why bother? They won't listen anyway and your letter or whatever won't probably even be opened or read. They never did care, so why would they care now?
because they care about money.

For example , the buzz in France after last night press screening is awful..

that is now that one should strike back.

[strugler]

I mean, really. It's obvious they don't give a damn, so why bother? They won't listen anyway and your letter or whatever won't probably even be opened or read. They never did care, so why would they care now?

letter is just one part i will actualy make a website and send the link to fox guys as well, i will not stand and od nothing i waited for that crap for 3 years and then they treat us like crap!!!! and all what we should is say hey they wont care lets watch the movie and buy the dvd

[CapBeerCino]

I bet if I see those 7 mins I'll be done seeing all of Cyclops lines in x-3 :(

[ShadowBoxing]

I bet if I see those 7 mins I'll be done seeing all of Cyclops lines in x-3 :(Cyclops' X3 script

Lines

"Not everyone heals as fast as you bub"

"Oh my....Jean"

"ARRRRRRrrrrrGGGGGGggggggg"

[StevieNicks1988]

Okay, let's say they do give a damn. It's a little too late, don't you think? I mean, this IS the last X-Men movie, so it's not like it matters. Maybe in another 10-20 years, but not now. That's why I ain't bothering. I've already I ain't seeing the movie, mostly cause it sounds like ****. Not just because a character dies. Characters die in all movies, whether deserved or not. You never know, Singer could've done the exact same fate for Scott at some point. Afterall, if Cyke had a bigger character he might not have died at all. Because of him being underused in the first two, it left him wide open for the boot when X3 came up to bat and they decided they needed some emotional deaths to make it really feel like 'war'.

[ShadowBoxing]

Guess what? You're still giving Fox money by seeing the film. :rolleyes:Okay--thats because I want to see the film, but I don't want to give them any more money than that, wow you're weird.

[strugler]

I bet if I see those 7 mins I'll be done seeing all of Cyclops lines in x-3 :(

no
they are still 2 lines

line1: jean is that you jeaaaaan
line 2: bllblblzblblzblbz (demoleculirisation)

[Maze]

I have not seen one clip since the fifth one..

people i've got to go , i' m working early tomorow.

but remember , you are the fans that keep those characters alive , you can be proud of what you do days after days , that is love reall love , and some of the ****ers at fox don't even have an inch of what you have :up:

i am really happy to have met you.:)

we will get their sorry ass :up:

Good night fellows cyke fans :) :up:

[strugler]

I have not seen one clip since the fifth one..

people i've got to go , i' m working early tomorow.

but remember , you are the fans that keep those characters alive , you can be proud of what you do days after days , that is love reall love , and some ****ers at fox don't even have an inch of what you have :up:

i am really happy to have met you.:)

we will get their sorry ass :up:

Good night fellows cyke fans :) :up:

bonne nuit bro

[CapBeerCino]

Cyclops' X3 script

Lines

"Not everyone heals as fast as you bub"

"Oh my....Jean"

"ARRRRRRrrrrrGGGGGGggggggg"

What were you thinking Fox!?!?

[fckable David]

Just saw that 7 min. clip.
So the Wolverine knows how Scott feels?
Logan had a crush on Jean while Scott lived with her, loved her for years!

What's wrong with that?

[TromaFreak64]

I mean, really. It's obvious they don't give a damn, so why bother? They won't listen anyway and your letter or whatever won't probably even be opened or read. They never did care, so why would they care now?

I'll let you in on a little secret....any letter we send to Fox they will personally respond to. We are missing a part of the address, we need to locator code that indicates inside their facility where it goes. But with an Attn it will get directed to their office of the chairman department and they, under Fox's policy, will respond. I am sure the generic response will be: "The writers and directors did what they could with the resources that were available... etc....etc.... You can still view Cyclops in action buy purchasing X-Men 1 or X-men 2 from so and so now retailed as so and so. We apologize for your disagreement with the films direction..." but they will in fact response. It's not that costly, but the data is typically recorded and track especially for marketing, products, other agreements and future films--so it won't hurt.

[oneteen]

Why is all the negativity back?? I was here just yesterday and it was the complete opposite. You guys, have HOPE!

[fckable David]

Why is all the negativity back?? I was here just yesterday and it was the complete opposite. You guys, have HOPE!

The junior novel, the adult novel, the press screenings?
Those stupid quotes about Scott in the movie?

[gap5ewl]

serisouly i have yet to find any credible press screening reports. am i looking in the wrong places? i searched all over xverse

[TromaFreak64]

Um because Cyclops DIES!

[LastSunrise1981]

Okay--thats because I want to see the film, but I don't want to give them any more money than that, wow you're weird.

Umm, from the sounds of it you seem pissed about X3 and Cyclops. So, from what I gathered by reading your posts and so forth, why give them ANY money if you're afraid of a particular outcome?

And how am I weird for calling you out on your BS? :rolleyes:

[americanguy96]

Are there any links to the French screening reviews?

[fckable David]

Um because Cyclops DIES!

And not only that, before he dies his character practically goes down the drain, after all he's dead since Jean died, right, Xavier?!

[taintedFB]

I thought Press Screenings weren't until tonight...and it is possible that maybe the international version is slightly different...

A POSSIBLE (Though unlikely, I know) clue that Scottmay survive...

"Not everyone heals as fast as you" could be foreshadowing Cyclops recovering from Alkali for most of the film. Think about it... it would effect the film very little, maybe one little scene of himunconscious in a bed with Moira MacTaggert looking over him. Then we wouldn't see him again til the end...

I will hold out until the 26th, because it is very possible that certain spoilers were not previewed for the press, and could be easily removed without drastically changing the movie.... we'll see... there is very little hope, I know, but its still there...

[gap5ewl]

I thought Press Screenings weren't until tonight...and it is possible that maybe the international version is slightly different...

A POSSIBLE (Though unlikely, I know) clue that Scottmay survive...

"Not everyone heals as fast as you" could be foreshadowing Cyclops recovering from Alkali for most of the film. Think about it... it would effect the film very little, maybe one little scene of himunconscious in a bed with Moira MacTaggert looking over him. Then we wouldn't see him again til the end...

I will hold out until the 26th, because it is very possible that certain spoilers were not previewed for the press, and could be easily removed without drastically changing the movie.... we'll see... there is very little hope, I know, but its still there...

yeah me to there has been no official reviews out yet.

[J.Howlett]

People need to get off this whole "Scott didn't have a big role in the first film" because if you look at actual screen time, he has alot in that film.

You can complain about the second film to a point because the last few scenes in the second film are all about Scott and Jean.

Just let it go, people.

[ShadowBoxing]

People need to get off this whole "Scott didn't have a big role in the first film" because if you look at actual screen time, he has alot in that film.

You can complain about the second film to a point because the last few scenes in the second film are all about Scott and Jean.

Just let it go, people.I liked him in the first film actually. Great scene with Xavier..."I'll take care of them".

[PhePhe112]

I'm still depressed, I couldn't even eat my dinner :(
I CANNOT believe this ****ing bull****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
**** YOU FOX!!!!

[CapBeerCino]

I thought Press Screenings weren't until tonight...and it is possible that maybe the international version is slightly different...

A POSSIBLE (Though unlikely, I know) clue that Scottmay survive...

"Not everyone heals as fast as you" could be foreshadowing Cyclops recovering from Alkali for most of the film. Think about it... it would effect the film very little, maybe one little scene of himunconscious in a bed with Moira MacTaggert looking over him. Then we wouldn't see him again til the end...

I will hold out until the 26th, because it is very possible that certain spoilers were not previewed for the press, and could be easily removed without drastically changing the movie.... we'll see... there is very little hope, I know, but its still there...

Even Worthy gave up by now :( The things I'd do for you to be right about Cyke fate....

[ShadowBoxing]

Umm, from the sounds of it you seem pissed about X3 and Cyclops. So, from what I gathered by reading your posts and so forth, why give them ANY money if you're afraid of a particular outcome?

And how am I weird for calling you out on your BS? :rolleyes:Yeah I am pissed about Cyclops and you're just an arrogant dueschbag who cannot help but act like this movie is "pure gold" I have read your posts too. Just because I have friends and a social life and recognize this as an opportunity to go out with them and watch Colossus, Magneto and Wolverine and other characters I have said look good doesn't make me full of sh**. Who are you to tell me what to do, go troll somewhere else.

[Moriarte]

I would have to disagree with Howlett to a point: Sure, Cyclops was grieving over Jean, but on the X-Jet the camera focus was heavily put on Wolverine (plus it's hard for an audience to emote with a character when their eyes cannot be scene, but that's beside the point); even then near the very end with the exchange between Wolverine and Scott, Wolverine is in the middle ground and is the focus of the camera during the "it was you" garbage.

No matter what, Wolverine got way more play than deserved.

[CapBeerCino]

I'm still depressed, I couldn't even eat my dinner :(
I CANNOT believe this ****ing bull****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
**** YOU FOX!!!!

I know I cant sleep and its after 5 am. After all the wait for x-3 this feels like a physical blow...

[PhePhe112]

I'm just soooooooooooo bummed, I feel sick :( My B/F is like 'OMG, it's just a movie" and that pisses me off more! :(

[J.Howlett]

Moriate,

But clearly, the death of Jean affected Scott the most. The scene on the X-Jet starts off more about Scott and then at the end, it focuses on Logan. They get their equal share to shine in that moment and it's a good moment between them.

Again, you can complain to a point about X2 but not X-Men. He's not the focus but you get a sense of who he is and what he is in that film. He's in it enough in X-Men.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm just soooooooooooo bummed, I feel sick :( My B/F is like 'OMG, it's just a movie" and that pisses me off more! :(It is just a movie, I won't lie he is right. My Cyclops issues don't blow up when its released. I will always have Cyclops, and I will always be critical of this movie for treating him like sh**...but it is just a movie and in the end if its bad it will be forgotten. And in actuality, it will probably be forgotten anyways as most action films are. I am not going to loose sleep over this, its not some big tragedy...however its a bad move by filmakers, but no skin off my back.