Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[PWN3R]

THis is bull****. BULL!

Not just Cykes, God how I hope that was the only thing wrong...

[taintedFB]

At least Jimmy is AWESOME in the scenes he's in. I mean that hallway scene ALONE, just made me want so much more from him...

I think his death will be felt by everyone in the audience, because I feel he's the most passionate and emotional character in the movies and it feels real with him.

[Maze]

AGAIN: CYCLOPS DOES NOT DIE ON CAMERA....Hope for a return in a sequel.
So whar? that's the same thing.

clone . him disapearing..

Wit the treatement that he get there ( no funeral etc) i don't wan't to see him in an X4. That's enough.What will they do next time? will he become a homeless , amnesic guy?...i don't wan't any X4

I wan't a reboot.:mad:

[taintedFB]

Reboot would mean recast and I want Marsden as Cyke!

[taintedFB]

Maybe the next three movies should be an Age of Apocalypse Alternate Reality. Cyclops actually leading a team of rebel mutants against Apocalypse!

[Maze]

At least Jimmy is AWESOME in the scenes he's in. I mean that hallway scene ALONE, just made me want so much more from him...

I think his death will be felt by everyone in the audience, because I feel he's the most passionate and emotional character in the movies and it feels real with him.

yup that's what i heard that he is indeed really good.

and after he dies , everybody kind of forget him..Way to honor a great character and a good actor:up: :down

[Maze]

Reboot would mean recast and I want Marsden as Cyke!
Ok i can understand.

but i wan't a respectful treatement , and we will not get it with this studio .

[strugler]

So whar? that's the same thing.

clone . him disapearing..

Wit the treatement that he get there ( no funeral etc) i don't wan't to see him in an X4. That's enough.What will they do next time? will he become a homeless , amnesic guy?...i don't wan't any X4

I wan't a reboot.:mad:

well said, a reboot by peter jackson lol 3 hours of x-men vs magneto vs sentinels vs king kong
maybe not king kong mastermold ;)

[CapBeerCino]

OUR LAST HOPE:
Seriously, if this is all we'll see of Scott Summers (mansion and lake) then we were blatanly lied to and misled by the writers, promos and publicity, and Hugh Jackman! I think after getting an earful opening weekend the writers won't fee very welcome on the X-verse forums anymore.


I asked you 3 times already and im beginning to think it's personal :p
What did Hugh say?

[Tony Stark]

Ok i can understand.

but i wan't a respectful treatement , and we will not get it with this studio .

I am wondering since everyone is calling this the "last" X-men movie, if Marvel gets the film rights back and will make new X movies under their studio with Paramount distributing the films.

[CapBeerCino]

I think it was along the same terms as what everyone else said. "Cyclops fans won't be disappointed." that sort of thing.

Oh. I bet he meant "Cyclops fans won't be disappointed." "with Wolverine."

[taintedFB]

I asked you 3 times already and im beginning to think it's personal :p
What did Hugh say?


Wish I had the exact quote, its in an article quoted somewhere on these boards.

Basically he says the love triangle is still in play and Cyclops by no means is relegated to the background. I'm paraphrasing, but that was basically his quote.

[taintedFB]

Truth be told, I remember reading that last minute things were shot for X2 about 2 weeks before release....

Maybe Fox is realizing the debackle and will shoot Jimmy waking up in the hospital instead of Xavier, cause honestly, it's time for Xavier to go. Nobody cares that he's gone and nobody cares that he's back.

[CapBeerCino]

Wish I had the exact quote, its in an article quoted somewhere on these boards.

Basically he says the love triangle is still in play and Cyclops by no means is relegated to the background. I'm paraphrasing, but that was basically his quote.

If you find the quote let me know. I'll make a t-shirt. The only love triangle is Logan-Jean-Pheonix.

[CapBeerCino]

Truth be told, I remember reading that last minute things were shot for X2 about 2 weeks before release....

Maybe Fox is realizing the debackle and will shoot Jimmy waking up in the hospital instead of Xavier, cause honestly, it's time for Xavier to go. Nobody cares that he's gone and nobody cares that he's back.

James is in nyc and there are less than 2 weeks.

[taintedFB]

A second unit crew can shoot him in bed at a local hospital. Just bring his shades. It's doable if Fox wants to save this franchise. They shot the dam from X2 in Van Nuys, CA weeks before release.

Its a shame because aside from Cyclops treatment and the lack of Phoenix firebird, this movie looks SO GOOD.

Scott/Logan scene: Excellent
Angel/ Father scene: Excellent
Magneto/ Phoenix forest scene: Excellent
Magneto speeches: always excellent

Now if they could somehow repair the damage of Cyclops unheroic death, it would be great.

[Mike059jig]

This is awful..

[CapBeerCino]

A second unit crew can shoot him in bed at a local hospital. Just bring his shades. It's doable if Fox wants to save this franchise.

What him in bed alone at a closing scene?

[Maze]

they'll need more than "saving" cyke to save that franchise if the majority of critics are to be believed.

Say Fox , care to do a remake by Singer Exorcist 4 style? LOL

[taintedFB]

If this movie succeeds, maybe Fox will beg Singer to come back with his team for X4? And maybe Singer and his writers will find a way to get Cyke back and lead. Especially since, by then, Wolverine will have his own movie, so he can just be a supporting character this time.

[taintedFB]

Honestly, I have yet to see a legitimate published review.

Fanboys reporting what they saw and spilling spoilers is not a review I'd go by.

And again, I find it strange that it took Jimmy several trips and over two and a half weeks to JUST shoot the scenes we know about...

Maybe... just maybe, there is still hope of at least survival.

Re: End scene last minute shoot. You can have a nurse in the room with him.

Or even more fun, just shoot the outside of a hospital, then have optic blasts rip out through the roof. Bet fans will cheer and look forward to X4 after that!

[CapBeerCino]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g252/phoenixwillrise3/P1010042.jpg

Did you see that in phoenixwillrise thread?
The nerve to keep pumping Cyke in uniforms!

[taintedFB]

From reading through the threads, I'm sensing some discrepencies...maybe multiple versions are STILL being shown... This is a big movie for Fox to screw up.

I still believe there is time to at least show that Cyclops LIVES!!!

[DarknessOfDeath]

From reading through the threads, I'm sensing some discrepencies...maybe multiple versions are STILL being shown... This is a big movie for Fox to screw up.

I still believe there is time to at least show that Cyclops LIVES!!!

You never give up do you? :) LOL

come on man, face the facts. He's gone.

I may still have some hope left, but I am still disappointed to say the least.

He's gone.

R.I.P :cyclops:

[CapBeerCino]

He's gone.

..."Dont you say that! We got to get back!"... :( Im gonna watch some x-2 since I cant sleep for 2 days now :(

[DarknessOfDeath]

..."Dont you say that! We got to get back!"... :( Im gonna watch some x-2 since I cant sleep for 2 days now :(

so ur saying ur with tainted? ... -sighs- I thought you were the opposite of whats happening in this thread.

[taintedFB]

Don't! I said DON'T!

"not everyone heals as fast as you Logan"

yeah, it's going to take me til AFTER the credits to wake up from the injuries I'm about to sustain. LOL.

I think if Fox is smart they will alter Scott's fate. Actually if the filmmakers were smart, they'd have already shot alternate scenes including Scott.

There was an uproar over this since the AICN revew in June. I find it difficult to comprehend how they could leave it in as is. I don't care if he dies at the end, but let him die a hero's death. Not by accident an OFF CAMERA.

I still think the fact that it happens OFF CAMERA suggests they're leaving it open for a possible return in the future. Otherwise why not show a heartbreaking scene of Jean seeing her true love die at her own hands?

[DarknessOfDeath]

while there are points there that I agree with...but still We don't know...gah. who am I kidding. -sighs-

Question, you sure ur on the right side?

[fallenAngel]

He dies off camera? Hmmmmm, that at least is some hope for future movies.

And really at this point future X men movies is really all we can hope for.

[taintedFB]

Are you sure you saw what you saw?

[DarknessOfDeath]

like I said...we don't know cause we both havn't seen it, yet some others have... again, -smirks- you sure ur on the right side?

[taintedFB]

At least ah've Chozen a side.

LOL

[DarknessOfDeath]

When push comes to shove, I stand by Jean all the way...


... erm yeah.

LOL

:rolleyes:

[CapBeerCino]

He dies off camera? Hmmmmm, that at least is some hope for future movies.

And really at this point future X men movies is really all we can hope for.

Lol that's like 2009 at least. I cant sleep :( The last couple of days were hell.

[the_scream]

Come on. Time to accept it. He DIES. It's been obvious since the trailer where his glasses were floating in the air. This last minute hope is not going to help anyone.

[The Original Bamfer]

We still don't know what happens :D

Our forum reviewers seem to not be telling us what really happened!

[CapBeerCino]

Come on. Time to accept it. He DIES. It's been obvious since the trailer where his glasses were floating in the air. This last minute hope is not going to help anyone.

Well I never believed they'd show that in the trailer if he really dies. I though they were trying to fool us. :o :(

[CapBeerCino]

We still don't know what happens :D

Our forum reviewers seem to not be telling us what really happened!

And the books? And Kinsberg's post at the x-verse...And Maze friends? That's too many with or without the forum reviewers.

[The Original Bamfer]

Kidberg's Post says nothing about his death...

[the_scream]

Well I never believed they'd show that in the trailer if he really dies. I though they were trying to fool us. :o :(

They didn't show him dying but it implied it. Why would Fox care enough to create a whole conspiracy centred around a character that was barely in X2? It never made sense that he would live and some people are just waking up to it. Sorry, but if you had remained pessimistic like me, you would be still annoyed (like me) but not so dissapointed. It sucks but this series has jumped the shark. Hopefully we'll get a nice reboot in five years or something.

[taintedFB]

Based on reviews there could be last minute tweeks. And there are so many discrepencies...

Until I see a PUBLISHED REVIEW I am not giving up hope. And if it plays out as all these people have said, I will still cling to the fact that he doesn't die on camera as hope for a return in X4.

[CapBeerCino]

They didn't show him dying but it implied it. Why would Fox care enough to create a whole conspiracy centred around a character that was barely in X2? It never made sense that he would live and some people are just waking up to it. Sorry, but if you had remained pessimistic like me, you would be still annoyed (like me) but not so dissapointed. It sucks but this series has jumped the shark. Hopefully we'll get a nice reboot in five years or something.

I dont want reboot! I waited so long to see x-2 conclude! :(

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I still can't believe that he is going to die in the movie.

Call me crazy or anything you want but I still have faith the Cyclops will live!

[imaperson2]

hes gonna die. would you guys rather see him treated the same in sequels, or not be there? i would rather him not be there.

[Pizzaboy1138]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fckable David
If both die, Scott and Jean, they should put both names on one gravestone in the end.
And give Cyclops any kind of satisfaction and/or rest? Yeah, I don't think that'll be happening. :down

At least like that the Wolverine would have to see Cykes name there forever together with Jean's.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

hes gonna die. would you guys rather see him treated the same in sequels, or not be there? i would rather him not be there.
I want neither. I want to see Cyclops having to screentime and the role he deserves in a future movie. After all he is the x-men field leader.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

At least like that the Wolverine would have to see Cykes name there forever together with Jean's.
Ooh come on. What is that? It's not satisfing. I mean ofcourse the names would be right next to each other. It's logical. Those two were meant for each other.

[Hugh'sMrs]

At least Jimmy is AWESOME in the scenes he's in. I mean that hallway scene ALONE, just made me want so much more from him...

I think his death will be felt by everyone in the audience, because I feel he's the most passionate and emotional character in the movies and it feels real with him.

James has done more with just a look, a smile or a sigh than a lot of the other actors have done with whole segments of dialogue.

[Pizzaboy1138]

So what we know about Cyclops:

-Xavier appoints Storm as the leader BEFORE his death.

-Cyclops die early on like a fool

-There is no furneral for Cyclops, but there is one for Xavier.

I applaud whoever thought of these awesome ideas ... :mad: :mad: :mad: ... only NOT!

What's wrong with them?!

[the_scream]

Not only is going to die but the film is apparantly very average according to the reviews. **** I knew it! Ratner, Kinberg, Penn and Rothman was never a good combination. The only thing that made the first films good was Singer and even he knew when to move on. Why couldn't Fox have spent more time on this film, and made something really awesome?!

[Obsidian]

I must say that killing Cyclops is ridiculous and killing Jean is redundant since she "died" in X2.

It's quite pathetic that even after all the backlash from the original draft in June, FOX still went ahead with killing Cyclops! For shame!

[cyke93]

Based on reviews there could be last minute tweeks. And there are so many discrepencies...

Until I see a PUBLISHED REVIEW I am not giving up hope. And if it plays out as all these people have said, I will still cling to the fact that he doesn't die on camera as hope for a return in X4.

3 years is a long time .. n its not even definate. right now i dont even wanna see x3 right now ... its too upsetting.

[Pizzaboy1138]

Ooh come on. What is that? It's not satisfing. I mean ofcourse the names would be right next to each other. It's logical. Those two were meant for each other.

Satisfying? Nope.
But at least a tiny little bit. After all, we have to search for crumbs, while others get the cake.

[Aiden]

If you listen to PhoenixWillRise then you will know that the movie is apparently very good

[SCOTT&JEAN]

James has done more with just a look, a smile or a sigh than a lot of the other actors have done with whole segments of dialogue.
I couldn't agree more.

His face even when you can't see his eyes is very expressive. It reflects everything, the characters feelings, situation and pain better than his own words.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I must say that killing Cyclops is ridiculous and killing Jean is redundant since she "died" in X2.

It's quite pathetic that even after all the backlash from the original draft in June, FOX still went ahead with killing Cyclops! For shame!
Yeah. I mean they saw the reaction that had. They should have learned their lesson.

[DarknessOfDeath]

If you listen to PhoenixWillRise then you will know that the movie is apparently very good

-pounces Aiden- want some chocolate cake, my friend? :)

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Satisfying? Nope.
But at least a tiny little bit. After all, we have to search for crumbs, while others get the cake.
I won't search for crumbs just yet.

I still have some hope left.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

-pounces Aiden- want some chocolate cake, my friend? :)
Hey! What about me? I won't get some cake too?

[Pizzaboy1138]

I won't search for crumbs just yet.

I still have some hope left.

I have the hope left, that at least Scott dies with some emotional impact and dignity.


Oh boy, why do I always have to settle for those characters, that get scr*wed over in the end?

[Aiden]

-pounces Aiden- want some chocolate cake, my friend? :)Yes please

[Maze]

Not only is going to die but the film is apparantly very average according to the reviews. **** I knew it! Ratner, Kinberg, Penn and Rothman was never a good combination. The only thing that made the first films good was Singer and even he knew when to move on. Why couldn't Fox have spent more time on this film, and made something really awesome?!

Because they think that they can sell a **** if the package is nice? (now i'm reserving my judgement of course, we never know..although
i'm doubting a lot now..)

[Bishop2]

Ummm... I've been moving across the country all week, what'd I miss? Everybody seems to be talking like we know for sure that Cyke is screwed now? :(

[TromaFreak64]

And the hits just keep on coming. :(

Before Cyke dies, Xavier appoints Storm to be THE NEW leader.

I told everyone that yesterday and referenced the book--all three books.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Sorry bishop... :( want some cake? :)

-gives aiden some cake- :)

[WorthyStevens]

Ummm... I've been moving across the country all week, what'd I miss? Everybody seems to be talking like we know for sure that Cyke is screwed now? :(

Screwed up the ass. :(

[Bishop2]

Screwed up the ass. :(

Wow, Worthy. Even your positively-charged self is down? So it's official that he's toast? How do we know?

[WorthyStevens]

Wow, Worthy. Even your positively-charged self is down? So it's official that he's toast? How do we know?

People who've seen screenings have confirmed it. :(

And almost as worse...

hey guys. i'm sorry i've been off the board for a bit. i'm in pre-production on another movie, and it's been eating up all my time (along with doing some press for X3). i promise to get to all of your questions in the next few days, but i wanted to quickly respond to the various recent emails about cyclops.

honestly, i understand you're being upset and emotional about the reports you're getting. i can only say that cyclops has always been one of my favorite characters in the x-men (or any comic book). as a screenwriter, working on the sequel of an established franchise, you are given certain parameters within which to work. i have said this before on these boards, and elsewhere. given those parameters, i am very proud of cyclops' scenes in this film, and especially proud of jimmy's performance. i know jimmy is very happy with his character, and very happy with the film.

if you want to boycott the movie, or all fox movies, or all simon kinberg movies, that's your prerogative. i do hope you see this film, and all my films, but it's your ten dollars, not mine. i just hope you understand that decisions about cyclops -- or any of the characters in the movie -- were made without malice or disrespect for the fans.

if you look at this board, you will see that i've written many, many pages of Q&A. i do have a day-job, and i'm not getting paid for this. in fact, fox isn't even involved with this site. zak and i spend hours and hours on this board because we simply want to communicate with you, the fans. we are proud fanboys, and we are proud of this movie.

i hope you dig it.

stay tuned. i'll be back in a couple days to answer the specific questions.

[TromaFreak64]

Where are you guys hearing that Cyclops does not get a funeral....in all three books Cyclops and Xavier share a funeral and Storm gives a eulogy for both and there is a very specific set of lines that follows in exchange with Wolverine establishing what will happen to him and "If you are with us be with us line" comes directly out of this event--for it to work the funeral must be for both Cyclops and Xavier....so where are you guys gettting this?

[The Original Bamfer]

none of this means he won't show up at the end...

[DarknessOfDeath]

AH... You too!?! U and tainted never give up do ya?

[sebaa]

cyclops died!!1 noo!

[Maze]

Bamfer: press screening.

he won't .Sorry.

[The Original Bamfer]

I think you're all wrong!

[the_scream]

People who've seen screenings have confirmed it. :(

And almost as worse...

At least you've finally seen the light (very dark and disturbing light mind you). Man, you were driving me mad with that optimism when I was sure he would die. I think I would have had a heart attack if you still had faith he would survive!!! :eek:

[The Original Bamfer]

You'll all see

[Maze]

Really seriously i would love to say to you Bamfer that yes he will be back ,to back you up but i would i do a disservice to all the cyke fans..

i mean , this is not believable...

if there is some knd of miracle great!

but i say , don't get your hopes up.

you'll be even more disapointed if nothing happen..

[Quidam]

I must say that killing Cyclops is ridiculous and killing Jean is redundant since she "died" in X2.

It's quite pathetic that even after all the backlash from the original draft in June, FOX still went ahead with killing Cyclops! For shame!

Agreed. I'm disappointed as I was holding out hope for Cyke's return at the end of the movie.

[The Original Bamfer]

Anyone who's really seen this movie won't give it out... Argh!

[DarknessOfDeath]

yeah... oh well. :o

[Maze]

Anyone who's really seen this movie won't give it out... Argh!
I know somebody personnaly who has seen the movie , he swore that Cyke is dead. and that he never comes back.

anyways like i said earlier your call.:(

[TromaFreak64]

Again this funeral business? Where are you guys hearing it is not for Cyclops and Xavier?

[Bishop2]

Yeah, pretty much as bad as I expected.

There's a girl I know who served as a "production assistant" at Marvel Studios for five months recently. She's very terrified of her nondisclosure agreement and I don't know her well enough to interrogate her. She did recently mention to me that she had a bad feeling about Cyclops, because "ever since it was announced that Jimmy was in Superman Returns, Cyclops started showing up less and less in the script drafts I was shredding."

(Basically, her job as a PA was a glorified way of saying she was a go-fer who fetched coffee and shredded papers that were considered security threats, but of course she always flipped through the X3/Spidey 3/Ghost Rider/Iron Man scripts as she shredded them. Who wouldn't?)

I mentioned that I was worried he was going to die. She said that, from what she saw, he died in all the drafts, it was just a matter of how many scenes he got before they killed him, and she thought they were bitter about him doing the Superman movie... but she of course noted that she hadn't worked there in months, and who the hell knew what was in reshoots. At the time, it gave me some hope, but I think her first instinct was correct. He was dead from day one.

[lordofthenerds]

Again this funeral business? Where are you guys hearing it is not for Cyclops and Xavier?
PWR and Darth Ratzinger, two people who saw the movie.

[Bishop2]

Question: On what BASIS does Xavier make Storm the leader before Cyke is ever gone? I mean, wtf is that crap?

Xavier: "Ororo, Scott, I want you to know that, due to the fact that Scott sucks and is a tight-ass, Ororo will be the new team leader."
Scott: "You've been blowing Logan again, haven't you? I mean, you're already at the right height for it."
Xavier: *SCOTT, GO DIE IN A LAKE*
Scott: *YES MASTER*

[TromaFreak64]

Gosh they are both saying that? Interesting cause in all three books its for both of them....wtf

[Spidey 2007]

I think you're all wrong!


thats just living in denial, sorry bamfer man.... its true. Hes gone.....

we have to move on with our lives man....

[TromaFreak64]

Man Darth was the one who told me the X-Men flee Jean instead of Wolvie asks Storm to get the others away so he can handle her....he has gotten other things wrong too....but oh well...where has PWR been posting?

[Maze]

Anyways people , look at this thread.

the love is there!

what i mean is that obviously what they did is horrible , but it could be a blessing in disguise..yes i'm serious ..you are going to talk about that debacle for month ..years? and people will talk about cyke , what some people have done to him , what could have been.

Cyke is a martyr now ..it will grow believe me ..and one day he will be one the main stars in one of those movie.

Cyclops live!:up:

[Bishop2]

Anyways people , look at this thread.

the love is there!

what i mean is that obviously what they did is horrible , but it could be a blessing in disguise..yes i'm serious ..you are going to talk about that debacle for month ..years? and people will talk about cyke , what some people have done to him , what could have been.

Cyke is a martyr now ..it will grow believe me ..and one day he will be one the main stars in one of those movie.

Cyclops live!:up:

The sad fact is that Joe Q. Public will be glad he's dead, because Joe Q. Public only knows that he loves Logan and anyone Logan hates must suck.

[Obsidian]

:(

i'm really depressed now....i think i'll go read my Differential Equations book

[Bishop2]

Someone should make an avatar of Cyke optic-blasting Tom Rothman. :)

[JZ1]

i can't believe marvel will let this happen... sad day for the comic fan when hollywood butchers their stories for money and high profile celebrities. X-men was a different story from all the comics and had great potential. gj fox/ratner/rest because now your not going to hear the end of it even when your making your 4th wolverine movie.

[Maze]

The sad fact is that Joe Q. Public will be glad he's dead, because Joe Q. Public only knows that he loves Logan and anyone Logan hates must suck.
True.


That is up to all of us to pass the word on what could have been , what could be.

[PWN3R]

The sad part is, all the people who don't know the true story, they are gonna think WHOREverine is the hero.

I bet WHOREverine's popularity goes sky high, yet again....:rolleyes:

[Maze]

wait Ranger , the movie could be pretty mediocre too

and there will not be any hero to remember on this one..

[WorthyStevens]

i can't believe marvel will let this happen... sad day for the comic fan when hollywood butchers their stories for money and high profile celebrities. X-men was a different story from all the comics and had great potential. gj fox/ratner/rest because now your not going to hear the end of it even when your making your 4th wolverine movie.

Marvel's not the same as they were back in the day. :(

And anyways, I found AICN's open letter to Rothman.

http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

[TromaFreak64]

Where is PWR posting their spoilers at?

[Bishop2]

Marvel's not the same as they were back in the day. :( [/URL]

Ain't that the truth. Man, they're not even the same as they were three years ago!

So I guess this means all those promo shots of Cyke really were just promo shots design to throw us off the trail. The new visor was either Photoshopped or designed and built JUST to placate all the pissed-off fans, because rather than having Cyke NOT DIE, they figured they'd better make us THINK maybe he doesn't die. Genius. Those bastards.

Well... at least I'm still looking forward to the Magneto spinoff, if that ever happens...

[taintedFB]

Payback.

Wolverine: Opening weekend...not even crickets in the theaters! LOL

[rory]

Ain't that the truth. Man, they're not even the same as they were three years ago!

So I guess this means all those promo shots of Cyke really were just promo shots design to throw us off the trail. The new visor was either Photoshopped or designed and built JUST to placate all the pissed-off fans, because rather than having Cyke NOT DIE, they figured they'd better make us THINK maybe he doesn't die. Genius. Those bastards.

Well... at least I'm still looking forward to the Magneto spinoff, if that ever happens...


I'm not picking on you here, but hasn't it occured to anyone that the promos of Marsden in costume were designed to throw EVERYONE ELSE off? I mean, the general public has no idea that Cyke dies in this film. Fox probably wanted to keep it that way. This way, it'll be shocking for everyone who isn't on the internet reading info for this movie all the time.

To put it bluntly, Fox doesn't care what the REAL fans think. They just see the bottom line, and most of their dough comes from the general public. Cyclops' fate was a business decision, the reasons falling between Marsden's availability and Wolverine's popularity. They don't care how much this pisses the fans off. The marketing campaign is there to fool everyone else.

[Bishop2]

I'm not picking on you here, but hasn't it occured to anyone that the promos of Marsden in costume were designed to throw EVERYONE ELSE off? I mean, the general public has no idea that Cyke dies in this film. Fox probably wanted to keep it that way. This way, it'll be shocking for everyone who isn't on the internet reading info for this movie all the time.

To put it bluntly, Fox doesn't care what the REAL fans think. They just see the bottom line, and most of their dough comes from the general public. Cyclops' fate was a business decision, the reasons falling between Marsden's availability and Wolverine's popularity. They don't care how much this pisses the fans off. The marketing campaign is there to fool everyone else.

Does the general public even look at promo shots? I mean, the only place they'd see those is online if they actively looked for them. The average joe who hits the official site is only gonna see Cyke with his stubble and leather jacket, and that average joe isn't going to think twice about that either.

[The Joker]

Wow I've just read the review threads.And looking at that poll the 111 people [including myself] who voted that Cyclops dies at Alkali lake,were dead right

I'm sure most of us are not surprised by his fate in the movie.We saw it coming.

[lordofthenerds]

Wow I've just read the review threads.And looking at that poll the 111 people [including myself] who voted that Cyclops dies at Alkali lake,were dead right

I'm sure most of us are not surprised by his fate in the movie.We saw it coming.
A few people cheated and voted today. But I also voted that he would die.

[JZ1]

but its not just about cyclops.. so many stories like rogues gets butchered but cyclops is the top one of them all because its the freaking phoenix saga. :down

[taintedFB]

Honestly, considering the backlash and uproar about the AICN review, I would be SHOCKED and disappointed if FOX didn't change Scott's fate. I'm still hopeful that he'll be the one who wakes up after the end credits.

At least we wouldn't leave the theater all depressed. Rogue, Mytique, and Magneto, "cured". Xavier, Jean, and Scott dead...seriously fans will be so depressed after this they may commit suicide. Prozac sales wll soar. Its overkill. And killing the mind (X), heart (Jean) and soul (Scott) ofthe team leaves nothing for future sequels. The remainder of the characters are pitiful B-level substitutes who aren't even in the same league.

I think Fox has had ample time to find a way around Scott's death and if nothing else, him waking up at the end would somewhat save the franchise and leave it open for sequels.

[gambitfire]

i hope the wolverine prequal bombs :D

[The Joker]

That's what these Marvel movies do folks.Change the characters/storylines etc.They 'hollywoodize' them.

Best we can hope for is an entertaining movie.But nobody will ever convince me that the X-Men,Spider-Man or most super hero movies [save Batman Begins],are loyal to the comics.

Though some characters are done well like Xavier,Magneto,Mystique,Jonah Jameson,Aunt May,Harry Osborn etc.But on the whole these movies are COMPLETELY different entities to the comics.Which pisses off alot of comic book fans,when they see their fav characters changed [not for the better] on screen.

[rory]

Does the general public even look at promo shots? I mean, the only place they'd see those is online if they actively looked for them. The average joe who hits the official site is only gonna see Cyke with his stubble and leather jacket, and that average joe isn't going to think twice about that either.


That is a good point. I was mainly refering to the one-sheets and posters with him in uniform with everyone else (seen by most in theaters) or general film magazine promos, but I see what you're saying. That would mean either Fox is really mean-spirited or has its head so far up its own ass that they have no idea the fans know (which, considering the uproar and the widely publicized review of the AICN draft, I find damn near impossible).

[WorthyStevens]

Honestly, considering the backlash and uproar about the AICN review, I would be SHOCKED and disappointed if FOX didn't change Scott's fate. I'm still hopeful that he'll be the one who wakes up after the end credits.

At least we wouldn't leave the theater all depressed. Rogue, Mytique, and Magneto, "cured". Xavier, Jean, and Scott dead...seriously fans will be so depressed after this they may commit suicide. Prozac sales wll soar. Its overkill. And killing the mind (X), heart (Jean) and soul (Scott) ofthe team leaves nothing for future sequels. The remainder of the characters are pitiful B-level substitutes who aren't even in the same league.

I think Fox has had ample time to find a way around Scott's death and if nothing else, him waking up at the end would somewhat save the franchise and leave it open for sequels.

It's not a matter of Fox being able to find a way around Scott's, it's a matter of them wanting to find a way around his death.

[Kurosawa]

I'm not picking on you here, but hasn't it occured to anyone that the promos of Marsden in costume were designed to throw EVERYONE ELSE off? I mean, the general public has no idea that Cyke dies in this film. Fox probably wanted to keep it that way. This way, it'll be shocking for everyone who isn't on the internet reading info for this movie all the time.

To put it bluntly, Fox doesn't care what the REAL fans think. They just see the bottom line, and most of their dough comes from the general public. Cyclops' fate was a business decision, the reasons falling between Marsden's availability and Wolverine's popularity. They don't care how much this pisses the fans off. The marketing campaign is there to fool everyone else.

It's all subtle marketing.

[taintedFB]

I just don't think the two scene we know of justify the time Jimmy spent on X3.

[DarknessOfDeath]

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[rory]

It's all subtle marketing.


Yeah. I guess they figure the average moviegoer seeing a poster of those actors in those costumes will expect a certain movie, not a movie where the LEADER of the X-Men and Jean's TRUE love (as established in X2) would die in the first 15 minutes of the film. I'm not even that big a Cyclops fan, but this is a really crappy thing to do. They fail to realize that the reason Wolverine is so cool in the comics is because he is NOT the leading man. He's the cool, gruff side man who makes sarcastic comments and kicks ass. He shouldn't be at the center of the conflict. The conflict lies between Xavier and Magneto; everyone else is just a player.

As far as Jean, her story has much more poignantcy (sp?) with Scott as the one who brings her back instead of Logan. While there's no doubt Logan cares for her, and she has at least SOME feelings for him, its been made clear in the comics AND the films that he isn't the one for her. But alas, Fox wants butts in the seats....

[gambitfire]

I just don't think the two scene we know of justify the time Jimmy spent on X3.



yea but don't forget the writers said Cyclops fans will be happy :rolleyes:

i hate fox.

[cyke93]

hey guys. i'm sorry i've been off the board for a bit. i'm in pre-production on another movie, and it's been eating up all my time (along with doing some press for X3). i promise to get to all of your questions in the next few days, but i wanted to quickly respond to the various recent emails about cyclops.

honestly, i understand you're being upset and emotional about the reports you're getting. i can only say that cyclops has always been one of my favorite characters in the x-men (or any comic book). as a screenwriter, working on the sequel of an established franchise, you are given certain parameters within which to work. i have said this before on these boards, and elsewhere. given those parameters, i am very proud of cyclops' scenes in this film, and especially proud of jimmy's performance. i know jimmy is very happy with his character, and very happy with the film.

if you want to boycott the movie, or all fox movies, or all simon kinberg movies, that's your prerogative. i do hope you see this film, and all my films, but it's your ten dollars, not mine. i just hope you understand that decisions about cyclops -- or any of the characters in the movie -- were made without malice or disrespect for the fans.

if you look at this board, you will see that i've written many, many pages of Q&A. i do have a day-job, and i'm not getting paid for this. in fact, fox isn't even involved with this site. zak and i spend hours and hours on this board because we simply want to communicate with you, the fans. we are proud fanboys, and we are proud of this movie.

i hope you dig it.

stay tuned. i'll be back in a couple days to answer the specific questions.



unless the paramer was to kill him from the get go then fine i understand.

other than that .... i dunno he mentions that this wasn't done with malice.. but its a direct slap in the face to all cyclops fans and to all x-men fans to have cyclops go out in such a fast and and undeserving way.

guys kingburg has basically confirmed it ... get ready to give fox a piece of your mind. if ur really upset about this, then do something about it, tell your friends not to see the film.. tell give the movie such bad word of mouth that it'll harm the film... and sticking it to fox where it hurts.. their wallets because thats all they ever cared about. if they were even concerned with the fans they would not have killed him off .. n not so early on. this bull****, i cant say it any other way .

[Obsidian]

If no one at FOX has realized that Tom Rothman is poison to quality films, then we're in trouble. I mean, he had no real faith in X-Men from the start (explanation on why it was given a relatively small budget compared to other sci-fi action flicks), he favored a Paul W.S. Anderson "Aliens vs. Predator" over a James Cameron/Ridley Scott "Alien 5" team-up, cut down a big chunk of "Kingdom of Heaven", and butchered many other comic book films (Elektra, Daredevil, LXG). Well, at least we have people like Alan Horn.

[Kurosawa]

I care about them doing what they did to Cykes, but there's nothing anyone can do about it at this point. Yes, we can sit here and threaten a boycott, trash the film, and cry all we want, however, in the end does it change anything? Will it bring the character back? No.

So at this point I've learned to just accept certain things. Hey, I'm disappointed and I wish Cyclops would have a bigger role in the Phoenix Saga. Unfortunately(from what I've read and heard) that isn't what we're getting and it's a tragedy.

I'm still seeing the movie on the 26th; I'm just not losing any sleep over it or calling for a burning of the witch at a stake, simply because nothing can be done and I'm over it at this point.

Your opinion reminds me of the infamous Bobby Knight quote- "I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it."

And once again, if Batman fans (of which I am one) had been as accepting of Batman and Robin as you think we should be of X3, then we'd be on our 10th Schumacher-directed Batman flick. If people don't go to the movie, that sends a message. If they blast the movie online, that sends a message. If the movie is criticizied so heavily amongst fans that it gets a Batman and Robin-type reputation, then future X-Men based movies will be made with more respect for the source material. We know it's too late for X3 not to suck. If there's any hope, it's in the future, because there's no hope now for a faithful adaptation and there's no hope now for Cyclops getting anything close to respect.

[Kurosawa]

Yeah. I guess they figure the average moviegoer seeing a poster of those actors in those costumes will expect a certain movie, not a movie where the LEADER of the X-Men and Jean's TRUE love (as established in X2) would die in the first 15 minutes of the film. I'm not even that big a Cyclops fan, but this is a really crappy thing to do. They fail to realize that the reason Wolverine is so cool in the comics is because he is NOT the leading man. He's the cool, gruff side man who makes sarcastic comments and kicks ass. He shouldn't be at the center of the conflict. The conflict lies between Xavier and Magneto; everyone else is just a player.

As far as Jean, her story has much more poignantcy (sp?) with Scott as the one who brings her back instead of Logan. While there's no doubt Logan cares for her, and she has at least SOME feelings for him, its been made clear in the comics AND the films that he isn't the one for her. But alas, Fox wants butts in the seats....

I won't be one of them.

[ZombieONE]

this is the same (ok im doing a turtles comparison) as if they made a new ninja turtles movie and offed Leo and Splinter and making it Raph's movie. man, im surprised i still remember their names (i loved that cartoon).

[Maze]

Honestly, considering the backlash and uproar about the AICN review, I would be SHOCKED and disappointed if FOX didn't change Scott's fate. I'm still hopeful that he'll be the one who wakes up after the end credits..
Considering the uproar all this month on the idea that he could die ,they would have changed his death long ago don't you think?

[taintedFB]

It's hard to believe that they could mess this up so much!

Honestly, they should have pushed Dark phoenix to X4, have Scott leave the team at the beginning of X3, then do some other story. Then have Jean rise at the very end!

Or if your gonna blody kill everyone at least have his death be heroic and have purpose!

I'm still hopeful that the version released will have a few changes in it and that they just aren't allowed to reveal it.

Maybe they did change his death, but didn't put it in the cut they showed.

Who knows...

Maybe they did just screw it up, in which case I will savor every moment Scott is in. Maybe he's so distraught that his death will be merciful, like he's so tormented, that he's put out of his misery and finally finds peace.

[gambitfire]

is their anyway of reaching this tom rothman and hitting HIM WHERE IT HURTS?!!

[GL1]

Well... man... I was so stoked when I saw the 7-minute preview of X3 that my homeboy had... I mean, Cyclops actually grew a pair and was talking back to Wolverine! Egads! It was great!

But then, well, this thread is basically trying to confirm that Cyclops indeed dies early on... and so I'm not interested in the movie again... ugh...

[Kurosawa]

this is the same (ok im doing a turtles comparison) as if they made a new ninja turtles movie and offed Leo and Splinter and making it Raph's movie. man, im surprised i still remember their names (i loved that cartoon).

That's exactly what it's like.

Or imagine Return of the Jedi if the Rancor ate Luke at Jabba's palace and Han ended up confronting Vader at the end.

Or Romeo and Juliet if they bumped off Romeo and made it Paris and Juliet.

[Maze]

It's hard to believe that they could mess this up so much!

Honestly, they should have pushed Dark phoenix to X4, have Scott leave the team at the beginning of X3, then do some other story. Then have Jean rise at the very end!

Or if your gonna blody kill everyone at least have his death be heroic and have purpose!

I'm still hopeful that the version released will have a few changes in it and that they just aren't allowed to reveal it.

Maybe they did change his death, but didn't put it in the cut they showed.

Who knows...

Maybe they did just screw it up, in which case I will savor every moment Scott is in. Maybe he's so distraught that his death will be merciful, like he's so tormented, that he's put out of his misery and finally finds peace.
i like your passion man:) :up:

[Obsidian]

It's hard to believe that they could mess this up so much!


not really...FOX has a habit of doing this...Cyclops will be remembered like Hicks was in the Alien franchise...someone who was destined for something great, but got killed in an extremely cheap way and there was a loud shout from fans across the globe at travesty

[Kurosawa]

It's hard to believe that they could mess this up so much!

Honestly, they should have pushed Dark phoenix to X4, have Scott leave the team at the beginning of X3, then do some other story. Then have Jean rise at the very end!

Or if your gonna blody kill everyone at least have his death be heroic and have purpose!

I'm still hopeful that the version released will have a few changes in it and that they just aren't allowed to reveal it.

Maybe they did change his death, but didn't put it in the cut they showed.

Who knows...

Maybe they did just screw it up, in which case I will savor every moment Scott is in. Maybe he's so distraught that his death will be merciful, like he's so tormented, that he's put out of his misery and finally finds peace.

They should have saved the Dark Phoenix Saga for it's own trilogy. Before she became Dark Phoenix, she was Phoenix, and she was the greatest heroine Marvel had ever seen. She was the X-Men's answer to Thor, and that's saying a lot. Part of what made her turn to evil so tragic was that she was such a great heroine.

[taintedFB]

Cyclops Theme:

SIMPLE PLAN LYRICS

"Untitled"

I open my eyes
I try to see but I’m blinded by the white light
I can’t remember how
I can’t remember why
I’m lying here tonight

And I can’t stand the pain
And I can’t make it go away
No I can’t stand the pain

How could this happen to me
I made my mistakes
I’ve got no where to run
The night goes on
As I’m fading away
I’m sick of this life
I just wanna scream
How could this happen to me

Everybody’s screaming
I try to make a sound but no one hears me
I’m slipping off the edge
I’m hanging by a thread
I wanna start this over again

So I try to hold onto a time when nothing mattered
And I can’t explain what happened
And I can’t erase the things that I’ve done
No I can’t

How could this happen to me
I made my mistakes
I’ve got no where to run
The night goes on
As I’m fading away
I’m sick of this life
I just wanna scream
How could this happen to me

I made my mistakes
I’ve got no where to run
The night goes on
As I’m fading away
I’m sick of this life
I just wanna scream
How could this happen to me

[TromaFreak64]

This has honestly become a joke....Cyke dies....gets no funeral....at least his headstone is next to Jean's....but Xavier dies...and Freakin comes back to life!!! NOT Cyclops!????? The uproar over Xaviers death was almost nonexistent...why bring him back especailly after this "powerful" funeral for JUST him....this is insane!!!!!

[martinbluther]

You gotta wonder if someone is doing this JUST to take the piss, almost like the EIC at MArvel saying that the X-Men are too big, too much at Marvel am dhe wants to emphasize other books

[cyke93]

maybe the version in theatres will be different from the press screenings. we will immidiately find out after the midnight showing.

i will be those in attendance in the midnight showing and if its basically the same crap then i will let you all know and its up to you what you want to do. the ONLY thing we can do to voice our frustrations of cyclops is to hurt fox in the wallet, tell your friends n whoever about this film, once bad word of mouth gets around, you'll see the numbers for x3 plummet and when fox wonders why it grossed less .. we can gladly respond with one word .. "cyclops"

but the thing is that i think its going to be huge regardless and basically we cant do anything about it

[taintedFB]

Trust me, enough fans back away from this film....people will notice. Especially given X2's success....

[taintedFB]

If he DOES die, I'd like a sappy montage with all of Scott' scenes from all three movies. Maybe its going through Jean's mind before she dies...

[cyke93]

If he DOES die, I'd like a sappy montage with all of Scott' scenes from all three movies. Maybe its going through Jean's mind before she dies...

i like how kinberg said nothing was done with malice towards any of the characters. obviously they've done quite the opposite. they kill him VERY early on, give the leadership to storm, give jean to logan, bring xavier back, they've done everything in their power to litterally run cyclops to the ground. and do a little happy dance on top of his grave.

and kinberg has the nerve to call himself a cyclops fan. dont give me that crap. dont say your a cyclops fan and write this movie. if he were a true cyclops fan he would come clean and say straight up: "we were told to to this and thats how it had to be done." dont parade around calling urself a cyke fan. dont say **** like you did the best you could when all we have to show for it is a headstone next to jean !

[DarknessOfDeath]

If he DOES die, I'd like a sappy montage with all of Scott' scenes from all three movies. Maybe its going through Jean's mind before she dies...


well i've done a Jean/Scott video... seen it?? ...

[cyke93]

If he DOES die, I'd like a sappy montage with all of Scott' scenes from all three movies. Maybe its going through Jean's mind before she dies...

theres a more likely chance we'll see a montage of her and logan. im sorry my friend, but fox is the epitomy of anti-cyclops

[gambitfire]

OMG wtf is us with the japanese and making everything heart attack quality? did anyone see the japanese trailer everything was fade in and fade out my eyes where in pain. in the endthey had a cool pic. i know wrong thread but i feel like i belong in this thread right now :(

[gambitfire]

theres a more likely chance we'll see a montage of her and logan. im sorry my friend, but fox is the epitomy of anti-cyclops

and notorious milkers of characters.

[DarknessOfDeath]

what a slap in the face....


-rolls eyes-


:eek: :down

[cyke93]

what a slap in the face....


-rolls eyes-


:eek: :down

its more than a slap.. i think all cyke fans have black eyes at this point and a chipped tooth.

[Maze]

~The deaths in X3 reflect the decision of FOX. Not the writers, director,
or anyone else directly involved with filming. Both Brett and the writers
originally had James, Patrick and Famke surviving.

Fox .

don't think that things are going to end like that..ooh no :mad: :down

[Kurosawa]

maybe the version in theatres will be different from the press screenings. we will immidiately find out after the midnight showing.

i will be those in attendance in the midnight showing and if its basically the same crap then i will let you all know and its up to you what you want to do. the ONLY thing we can do to voice our frustrations of cyclops is to hurt fox in the wallet, tell your friends n whoever about this film, once bad word of mouth gets around, you'll see the numbers for x3 plummet and when fox wonders why it grossed less .. we can gladly respond with one word .. "cyclops"

but the thing is that i think its going to be huge regardless and basically we cant do anything about it

Do whatever you want, but honestly....why bother? It'll only piss you off.

[martinbluther]

i like how kinberg said nothing was done with malice towards any of the characters. obviously they've done quite the opposite. they kill him VERY early on, give the leadership to storm, give jean to logan, bring xavier back, they've done everything in their power to litterally run cyclops to the ground. and do a little happy dance on top of his grave.

and kinberg has the nerve to call himself a cyclops fan. dont give me that crap. dont say your a cyclops fan and write this movie. if he were a true cyclops fan he would come clean and say straight up: "we were told to to this and thats how it had to be done." dont parade around calling urself a cyke fan. dont say **** like you did the best you could when all we have to show for it is a headstone next to jean !

Well, if this is the way that this shakes out, then K has been bullsh***ing us if not outright lying and/or in denial to himself. He could be deluded enough to think this is true, especially with the softball filter they have over at the place where he answers fan questions.

[taintedFB]

No DOD haven't seen your vid. Link?

[vanillacyke]

And really bad rashes.

[DarknessOfDeath]

No DOD haven't seen your vid. Link?

no...i'll have to upload it tomorrow when i get back from work.

[taintedFB]

The fact that Kinberg is still standign up for this movie AND Cyclops treatment suggests maybe he knows we'll see what REALLY happens after opening day. Why would he still wave his "I' a fan boy, love this movie, love Scott, Love Jimmy" flag.

He starts off by saying "All I can say"... I wonder what he "CAN'T" say....

Originally Posted by PhoenixWillRise
it is possible... remember with X2 at press screenings they did not show Jean dying at the lake!!

It's still possible that these are alternate versions. Fox may have changed things but left them out of press screenings because they KNEW it would all be spoiled online. 1:44 min for the press, 144 min for fans on May 26th...

It's unlikely but possible...

[Mar420x]

http://www.wolverineandjubilee.com/gallery/X-Men/Images/5.jpg

hes back.........

[DarknessOfDeath]

that pic of ckyes...made me...kinda horny :confused:










AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :(

[PWN3R]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWillRise
it is possible... remember with X2 at press screenings they did not show Jean dying at the lake!!



Then what did they show?? :confused: I have never heard this before...

That means EVERY scene after her death would not be shown as well.

[taintedFB]

I doubt there are alot... again Jimmy's stuck in Australia. But a return at the end, is NOT out of the question...

There is still HOPE.

As Bon Jovi said: Everybody Keep The Faith

[gambitfire]

that pic of ckyes...made me...kinda horny :confused:


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :(

:eek: i knew it :o :)

[Maze]

They did show Jean death at the press screening.( i even fell on THE spoiler on AICN with of those reviews..:o )

what are you talking about?

[taintedFB]

Considering the secrecy around this movie, it doesn't make sense to give away the twists and turns before opening night.

[PWN3R]

No I am talking about X2, they didn't show the end in the press screenings??

I have never heard anyone on this board say that, I am pretty sure someone would have brought it up by now.

[DarknessOfDeath]

... i can't believe i got turned on by that comic pic of Cykes...waking up... aaaaaaah... what the hell!?!

But I still go with Jean all the way!!!!!!!!!

[Maze]

Considering the secrecy around this movie, it doesn't make sense to give away the twists and turns before opening night.
Again , you don't lie to the press.

that is not the studio interest.

[PWN3R]

So they showed her death in the X2 press screenings Maze??

I thought so, that is the FIRST time I heard that. I am pretty sure someone would have remembered and brought that up. There is no way someone would let that go.

[taintedFB]

DoD, you are TOO funny.

Phoenixwillrise said this on the other thread. He may be mistaken, I don't know. All I know is I was reading every article and review of X2 and was totally floored by Phoenix at the end. I was so giddy, it was funny. I mean squeeling like a pig with excitement.

[LastSunrise1981]

Is all the back and forth done at the point? Has it been confirmed that Cyclops truly dies? To be honest with you and I'm not trying to be a prick at this point, however, I haven't seen one credible review at this point and the reviews I have read doesn't go into detail at all.

BUT, I will say this right now. IF Cyclops is truly dead at this point and time, then there's no reason for them to change anything. I'm sure a lot of viewers tuned in for the 7 minute preview and saw the scenes, what sense would it make to fool people all of a sudden?

Look, I want Cyclops to live as much as anyone, but maybe it's time we stop fighting and just accept it at this point. Fox basically has given us the middle finger since day one; so just let it go and stop stressing over a situation none of us can change.

In closing, Wolverine's spin-off film won't do that well. The Weapon X storyline is very complex and interesting, but so far lone character movies tend to do pretty horribly.

Remember, Fox thought Elektra was going to slay the box office too. Wait, Fox did promote Elektra right?

[FreeRadical]

Considering the secrecy around this movie, it doesn't make sense to give away the twists and turns before opening night.

I don't think Fox wants to mess around with the critics....

[gambitfire]

just realized X-3 isn't only the phoenix story and the cure its also the Mutant Massacre :(

[taintedFB]

How many people here actually get to go to press screenings. How bou back when X2 was released... Honestly, I find it hard to believe that NON-press people can get into these screeings.

I just think its possible, maybe they don't tell the press about it. Maybe they just call it last minute changes.... possible...

[DarknessOfDeath]

Is all the back and forth done at the point? Has it been confirmed that Cyclops truly dies? To be honest with you and I'm not trying to be a prick at this point, however, I haven't seen one credible review at this point and the reviews I have read doesn't go into detail at all.

BUT, I will say this right now. IF Cyclops is truly dead at this point and time, then there's no reason for them to change anything. I'm sure a lot of viewers tuned in for the 7 minute preview and saw the scenes, what sense would it make to fool people all of a sudden?

Look, I want Cyclops to live as much as anyone, but maybe it's time we stop fighting and just accept it at this point. Fox basically has given us the middle finger since day one; so just let it go and stop stressing over a situation none of us can change.

been there...done that. and well said :up:

okay... whos the hot chick in the background behind cyke in that pic?

[Maze]

So they showed her death in the X2 press screenings Maze??

I thought so, that is the FIRST time I heard that. I am pretty sure someone would have remembered and brought that up. There is no way someone would let that go.
Of course they did!

people are inventing stuff there because they are distraught.

there was rumors ..just that ..and i fell on that damn critic one week before seing it on Aicn.

[taintedFB]

Again, Scott's survival would consist of either, returning to confront Jean JUST before she dies, OR waking up somewhere after its all over. Wouldn't effect anything else. Characters would still think he's dead. But we'd know better!

[PWN3R]

How many people here actually get to go to press screenings. How bou back when X2 was released... Honestly, I find it hard to believe that NON-press people can get into these screeings.

I just think its possible, maybe they don't tell the press about it. Maybe they just call it last minute changes.... possible...

Yeah, most likely no one on this board went to a X2 screening. BUT, I think by 2006, we would have heard about Fox's trick.

You are setting yourself up for disappointment big time.

[taintedFB]

Hey the first two X-Men were awesome so let's not turn on Fox just yet. May 26th, 2am. I'll let you know.

[Hugh'sMrs]

I think Marsden is playing Scott Summers aka Cyclops not Bobby Ewing in "Dallas".

[Mar420x]

im tryin 2 find a cyclops shirt 2 on the web 2 buy. anybody got a link. i wanna wear it when i go see the movie. peace.

[DarknessOfDeath]

seriously...who's the chick in the pic? Rogue? ... pish posh. meh... who is she!?!

[PWN3R]

Hey the first two X-Men were awesome so let's not turn on Fox just yet. May 26th, 2am. I'll let you know.

I am not saying X3 will suck, I am saying you will be disappointed when there is no huge surprise on Cyke.

[Spikey]

800 pages of denial....











just kidding :)


In other news, I'm playing the game (nothing spectacular) but Cyclops its in it... at least in the first moments. He's devastated. It seems that he doesn't want be a X-man anymore. He dreams about the alkali lake scene in the movie (wtf). And thats it. Maybe later appears again.

[taintedFB]

Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. No big deal. But I still have hope.

And maybe his death will make sense. Maybe he's so miserable, that he was spared even more pain in seeing Jean like this. We'll see...

It just seems odd that we've been so blatantly decieved and that his death would be so blatantly pointed to in trailers if there weren;t a twist. And we were told there are twists. Where? So far the plot is straight forward and predictable.

[J.Howlett]

Scott is dead folks. It's over. Let it go. This isn't how it was suppose to be but it's what we got. Let's see if it works.

[Kurosawa]

Is all the back and forth done at the point? Has it been confirmed that Cyclops truly dies? To be honest with you and I'm not trying to be a prick at this point, however, I haven't seen one credible review at this point and the reviews I have read doesn't go into detail at all.

BUT, I will say this right now. IF Cyclops is truly dead at this point and time, then there's no reason for them to change anything. I'm sure a lot of viewers tuned in for the 7 minute preview and saw the scenes, what sense would it make to fool people all of a sudden?

Look, I want Cyclops to live as much as anyone, but maybe it's time we stop fighting and just accept it at this point. Fox basically has given us the middle finger since day one; so just let it go and stop stressing over a situation none of us can change.

In closing, Wolverine's spin-off film won't do that well. The Weapon X storyline is very complex and interesting, but so far lone character movies tend to do pretty horribly.

Remember, Fox thought Elektra was going to slay the box office too. Wait, Fox did promote Elektra right?


It's been confirmed from people who went to advance press screenings in Europe.

And the "lay back and enjoy it" attitude-I just have no respect for that. It's too late for this movie, but it's not to late to make it clear that this is a crap decision.

[Mike059jig]

wasn't their a thread on her that say well x3 beat the trilogy curse..where is that thread??? I really wanna know!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

It's been confirmed from people who went to advance press screenings in Europe.

And the "lay back and enjoy it" attitude-I just have no respect for that. It's too late for this movie, but it's not to late to make it clear that this is a crap decision.

I'm not saying enjoy the movie, but there's nothing we can do. Here's why whining, crying, and *****ing won't change anything.

The actors, the studio, and so forth still get paid. We're not getting paid for being fans, we're not getting paid for voicing our opinions, and we're surely not getting paid for writing our own outcomes and fan fiction stories.

Not just you, but a lot of other people have let Fox, Simon, Brett, and Zakk known about X-Men 3 and Cyclops in general. None of what you said or what anyone said made the least bit of difference. In the end, they went home to their comfortable beds with a nice paycheck, went sound asleep, and did it all over again the next day.

Guess what? James still got paid and will be getting twice the paycheck come Superman Returns. So what's the point in getting angry or upset? Let it go. You can't do anything about it, I can't do anything about it, no one can do anything except either see the movie or don't see the movie.

Simon himself basically told you and the others to screw off when he said "If you choose to boycott this film, that's your right and your own life". So basically he just told you flat out he doesn't care what you or anyone does. Sorry my friend, it's the truth. I know it's harsh and I'm upset too, but I've accepted it and just moved on at this point.

[The Punisher]

I have my own opinion about Cyclop's death, but by what goes on on these boards isn't worth telling. I'll wait till May 26 for the outcome.

[TheVileOne]

I'm not saying enjoy the movie, but there's nothing we can do. Here's why whining, crying, and *****ing won't change anything.

The actors, the studio, and so forth still get paid. We're not getting paid for being fans, we're not getting paid for voicing our opinions, and we're surely not getting paid for writing our own outcomes and fan fiction stories.

Not just you, but a lot of other people have let Fox, Simon, Brett, and Zakk known about X-Men 3 and Cyclops in general. None of what you said or what anyone said made the least bit of difference. In the end, they went home to their comfortable beds with a nice paycheck, went sound asleep, and did it all over again the next day.

Guess what? James still got paid and will be getting twice the paycheck come Superman Returns. So what's the point in getting angry or upset? Let it go. You can't do anything about it, I can't do anything about it, no one can do anything except either see the movie or don't see the movie.

That's all I'm saying. Kinberg himself basically told you and the others to screw off when he said "If you choose to boycott this film, that's your right and your own life". So basically he just told you flat out he doesn't care what you or anyone does. Sorry my friend, it's the truth. I know it's harsh and I'm upset too, but I've accepted it and just moved on at this point.

This is an interesting change from your stance of, "there's no way they will kill Scott now since they know from reading the forums how much we think it sucks."

[LastSunrise1981]

This is an interesting change from your stance of, "there's no way they will kill Scott now since they know from reading the forums how much we think it sucks."

Well, I was wrong apparently and I can admit my faults. Can you? I went in with hope and I went down with hope, what have you done other than whining and bashing products you haven't seen? Nothing? I thought so.

[TheVileOne]

Well, I was wrong apparently and I can admit my faults. Can you? I went in with hope and I went down with hope, what have you done other than whining and bashing products you haven't seen? Nothing? I thought so.

For one thing, I stuck to my guns. I stayed consistent. And I wasn't naive enough to say things like this.

I'm also not gullible enough to make posts about how the version going around now is NOT the theatrical version. The real theatrical version will be longer and better!

Oh and Scott is still going to live in the theatrical cut. Ask TaintedFB, he knows.

You call it whining and bashing, I call it being a realist.

[Kurosawa]

I'm not saying enjoy the movie, but there's nothing we can do. Here's why whining, crying, and *****ing won't change anything.

The actors, the studio, and so forth still get paid. We're not getting paid for being fans, we're not getting paid for voicing our opinions, and we're surely not getting paid for writing our own outcomes and fan fiction stories.

Not just you, but a lot of other people have let Fox, Simon, Brett, and Zakk known about X-Men 3 and Cyclops in general. None of what you said or what anyone said made the least bit of difference. In the end, they went home to their comfortable beds with a nice paycheck, went sound asleep, and did it all over again the next day.

Guess what? James still got paid and will be getting twice the paycheck come Superman Returns. So what's the point in getting angry or upset? Let it go. You can't do anything about it, I can't do anything about it, no one can do anything except either see the movie or don't see the movie.

Simon himself basically told you and the others to screw off when he said "If you choose to boycott this film, that's your right and your own life". So basically he just told you flat out he doesn't care what you or anyone does. Sorry my friend, it's the truth. I know it's harsh and I'm upset too, but I've accepted it and just moved on at this point.

I'm glad there's less people like you in the world or we'd all still be living under an all-powerful monarch.

I just can't accept the "lie back and enjoy it" point of view. To me it's lame. It's like the Batman analogy-if all Batman fans just accepted Batman and Robin, we'd be on Batman 10: Bat-Nipples De Luxe by now.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm glad there's less people like you in the world or we'd all still be living under an all-powerful monarch.

I just can't accept the "lie back and enjoy it" point of view. To me it's lame. It's like the Batman analogy-if all Batman fans just accepted Batman and Robin, we'd be on Batman 10: Bat-Nipples De Luxe by now.

*sigh* You still don't get it. I'm not saying you accept it by being happy with it. There are some things you accept(even when you're not happy with it), because you know nothing can be done about it.

Sheesh, are you sure you can read or comprehend? What I typed was pretty simple and a well known fact. Go to the Batman Begins board, you'll see I had nothing good to say about Batman and Robin.

I like Joel Schumacher as a director due to Phone Booth, The Lost Boys, The Client, and 8MM, however, what he did to Batman was and is unforgotten and can't be forgiven. But I accepted it and moved on, because what's done is done.

You need to learn that you can't change anything.

Guess what? IT'S JUST A MOVIE. It's not the end of the bloody world and you're not going to die because of it, so just move on and accept that they made a decision you're not happy with.

I have and that's why I just don't care anymore at this point.

[gambitfire]

Scott is dead folks. It's over. Let it go. This isn't how it was suppose to be but it's what we got. Let's see if it works.

Im so sick of ppl doing this!! who the hell do you think you are your character wasn't affected at all i don't care if you do like cyclops or not you don't have the right to tell someone how to feel its rude. If someone chooses not to let it go then that's up to them. Lord only knows the Bitc# fit you would have if Wolverine was taken away from his glory somehow, you obviously don't cope with what is going on here with true Cyclops fans so have some sense and stop telling people to just let it go. Besides it's the Cyclops thread so if you have a problem get out. :mad:

[Kurosawa]

*sigh* You still don't get it. I'm not saying you accept it by being happy with it. There are some things you accept(even when you're not happy with it), because you know nothing can be done about it.

Sheesh, are you sure you can read or comprehend? What I typed was pretty simple and a well known fact. Go to the Batman Begins board, you'll see I had nothing good to say about Batman and Robin.

I like Joel Schumacher as a director due to Phone Booth, The Lost Boys, The Client, and 8MM, however, what he did to Batman was and is unforgotten and can't be forgiven. But I accepted it and moved on, because what's done is done.

You need to learn that you can't change anything.

I'm afraid you're the one that doesn't get it. you can't even comprehend a simple analogy. I'm not talking about your personal opinions towards the Batman movies, I'm talking about your "can't change anything" attitude. Batman Begins was made the way it was made precisely because of negative fan reaction to Batman and Robin and Batman Forever. If Batman fans just took it like you want us Cyclops fans to do, then Warner Bros would have never gotten the message that the direction they were taking the series in was wrong. They'd kept pumping out campier and campier Batman movies until it got to the point where Adam West's Batman would seem like Denny O'Neil's Batman. But because of Batman fans, Warners had to actually respect the source material.

Why is George Lucas finally releasing the original original Star Wars movies? No matter what he says, it's at least partially because of fan reaction to the special edition versions. People who wanted the original classic trilogy expressed their concerns by communicating them online and by not buying the 2004 DVD release. And GL can say whatever he wants, but negative fan reaction did play a part in all of that.

If fans can affect George Lucas, they can affect anyone.

[Obsidian]

New Line listened to the fans regarding "Snakes on a Plane"...why can't FOX?

[Kurosawa]

Im so sick of ppl doing this!! who the hell do you think you are your character wasn't affected at all i don't care if you do like cyclops or not you don't have the right to tell someone how to feel its rude. If someone chooses not to let it go then that's up to them. Lord only knows the Bitc# fit you would have if Wolverine was taken away from his glory somehow, you obviously don't cope with what is going on here with true Cyclops fans so have some sense and stop telling people to just let it go. Besides it's the Cyclops thread so if you have a problem get out. :mad:

And why have we had 3 movies and no Gambit?

We all know why.

Wolverine.

[pt_photo_inc]

soooooooooo... are people now not going to see this movie??? Cause he is dead... i want to know if it was **** talking or they will hold to thier guns

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm afraid you're the one that doesn't get it. you can't even comprehend a simple analogy. I'm not talking about your personal opinions towards the Batman movies, I'm talking about your "can't change anything" attitude. Batman Begins was made the way it was made precisely because of negative fan reaction to Batman and Robin and Batman Forever. If Batman fans just took it like you want us Cyclops fans to do, then Warner Bros would have never gotten the message that the direction they were taking the series in was wrong. They'd kept pumping out campier and campier Batman movies until it got to the point where Adam West's Batman would seem like Denny O'Neil's Batman. But because of Batman fans, Warners had to actually respect the source material.

Why is George Lucas finally releasing the original original Star Wars movies? No matter what he says, it's at least partially because of fan reaction to the special edition versions. People who wanted the original classic trilogy expressed their concerns by communicating them online and by not buying the 2004 DVD release. And GL can say whatever he wants, but negative fan reaction did play a part in all of that.

If fans can affect George Lucas, they can affect anyone.

1) Look at how long it took them to get Batman right. It took them EIGHT YEARS. If Warner Bros. actually had respect for the source material, they never would've allowed soccer moms to change their product. Plain and simple fact.

2) What is this original original Star Wars movies? How many times is he going to re-release the damn movies?

[gambitfire]

And why have we had 3 movies and no Gambit?

We all know why.

Wolverine.

Don't remind me :(

[gambitfire]

soooooooooo... are people now not going to see this movie??? Cause he is dead... i want to know if it was **** talking or they will hold to thier guns

i never said i wasn't going to see it but i won't be able to enjoy if i wanted tool. :O

[LastSunrise1981]

And why have we had 3 movies and no Gambit?

We all know why.

Wolverine.

According to Singer, Beast was supposed to be in X1 and in X2, but due to budget issues and time none of it came to fruition.

To be honest I'm more disappointed about Gambit not being in these movies.

[RonStoppablefan]

And why have we had 3 movies and no Gambit?

We all know why.

Wolverine.

Some one say Wolverine's name? :)

He's my favorite character, so I'm glad he's getting attention, this is me agian. Course you can't just blame Wolverine for the problems, he's just seems to be a fan favorite. Its the proudcers/Directors who choose to give which character has character spot light or not. I can't wait for this film personally, but that's me :)

[Kurosawa]

1) Look at how long it took them to get Batman right. It took them EIGHT YEARS. If Warner Bros. actually had respect for the source material, they never would've allowed soccer moms to change their product. Plain and simple fact.

2) What is this original original Star Wars movies? How many times is he going to re-release the damn movies?

But the end product was worth the wait, as Batman Begins was excellent and met the standard that Spider-Man set-faith to the spirit of the comics, if not to every detail. Warners doesn't respect the source material, but negative fan reaction to B & R forced them to.

The original, unaltered original Star Wars movies are coming out this fall. No "Episode IV: A New Hope", blobs of vasaline under Luke's landspeeder, Han shoots first, Yub-yub song, matte lines around the ships, monkey lady Palpatine...all that jazz.

[Kurosawa]

Some one say Wolverine's name? :)

He's my favorite character, so I'm glad he's getting attention, this is me agian. Course you can't just blame Wolverine for the problems, he's just seems to be a fan favorite. Its the proudcers/Directors who choose to give which character has character spot light or not. I can't wait for this film personally, but that's me :)

Goody for you.

[Kurosawa]

soooooooooo... are people now not going to see this movie??? Cause he is dead... i want to know if it was **** talking or they will hold to thier guns

I'm absolutely not going to see it. My wife and I will either go see something else or...we'll find something to do, anyway.

[PWN3R]

Some one say Wolverine's name? :)

He's my favorite character, so I'm glad he's getting attention, this is me agian. Course you can't just blame Wolverine for the problems, he's just seems to be a fan favorite. Its the proudcers/Directors who choose to give which character has character spot light or not. I can't wait for this film personally, but that's me :)

I'm curious, did you become a fan through the movies?

[gambitfire]

I'm curious, did you become a fan through the movies?

:o like he will admit it.

I know alot of Wolverine fans that have been fans from the comic books and they have the nerve to call themselves X-men fans when all they know is Wolverine.

[RonStoppablefan]

I'm curious, did you become a fan through the movies?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to post that post here. I thought it was in that spoiler topic where people were blaming Wolverine so I wanted to say some thingh. Yes I did become a fan threw the movies. I started watching the series after the first one on Toon Disney. I also liked X-Men Evolution, they were good series :)

[RonStoppablefan]

:o like he will admit it.

I know alot of Wolverine fans that have been fans from the comic books and they have the nerve to call themselves X-men fans when all they know is Wolverine.

And some fans watched X-Men for Cyclops, there's nothing wrong with being a big fan of a character :) I'll leave now since I'm not a major fan of this character. Agian sorry about that post, it was a mistake to be put in here.

[PWN3R]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to post that post here. I thought it was in that spoiler topic where people were blaming Wolverine so I wanted to say some thingh. Yes I did become a fan threw the movies. I started watching the series after the first one on Toon Disney. I also liked X-Men Evolution, they were good series :)

I am glad you are a fan, and Wolverine is a cool character. The thing is, the movies fail to show that he isn't the only character in the X-Men Universe. The movies are always centered around him, but people should know they are other characters, with good stories, who happen to not have an adamantium skeleton.

It is a shame that they switch out other character's roles, just to give Wolverine more time.

[Kurosawa]

I hate Wolverine more than any other character, but I can put up with him if the other characters (not just Scott) get their chance to shine.

[PWN3R]

I hate Wolverine more than any other character, but I can put up with him if the other characters (not just Scott) get their chance to shine.

he used to be cool, until they started writing him as an indestructable god. Now he has 2 ongoing titles, and is in every X-book, plus he is an 'avenger', it is sad.

[Kurosawa]

I didn't mind him at first, although it ticked me off that they killed Thunderbird off in Giant-Size #1. Then they gave Wolverine a lot of Thunderbird's character. He was the first of many characters to suffer so Wolverine could flourish.

So I've disliked the character at least to a degree since the mid-70's. But I really didn't start flat-out hating him until Inferno.

[axex]

So much going on, I can't tell if this has been asked.

Do we actually see Cyke die/demolecularize, or does it cut away before we actually see him die? I know he's gone after that, but I'm just curious; do we see him die or is it just a really really strong suggestion?

[WorthyStevens]

Some one say Wolverine's name? :)

He's my favorite character, so I'm glad he's getting attention, this is me agian. Course you can't just blame Wolverine for the problems, he's just seems to be a fan favorite. Its the proudcers/Directors who choose to give which character has character spot light or not. I can't wait for this film personally, but that's me :)

I don't blame him. I blame Rothman.

[PWN3R]

Here is the link:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162 (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162)


I spent alot of time writing up this petition which is for the sole purpose of relaying to fox studios how a great majority of the fans are unhappy with the way Cyclops has been portrayed in the X-men trilogy. This took a while to create and required alot of cooperation so please take the time to read and sign it.







Our Last Stand for Cyclops in future movies




I suggest you take that on as many boards as possible if you even want a thought of having a chance.

[mustanger405]

Power if you could help me beacause I am not signed on with all X boards....so if you could copy and paste my post on other boards if you I would really appreciate it. I will try to post it on other boards as well. Thanx

[PWN3R]

This is really the only board I post at. I used to post on some Alias boards, but haven't in 4ever.

Here and thexverse.com I have an account, and I know the mods would delete it there in a heartbeat.

[PhePhe112]

Here is the link:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162 (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162)


I spent alot of time writing up this petition which is for the sole purpose of relaying to fox studios how a great majority of the fans are unhappy with the way Cyclops has been portrayed in the X-men trilogy. This took a while to create and required alot of cooperation so please take the time to read and sign it.







Our Last Stand for Cyclops in future movies




*signed!!!!

[TromaFreak64]

Some one say Wolverine's name? :)

He's my favorite character, so I'm glad he's getting attention, this is me agian. Course you can't just blame Wolverine for the problems, he's just seems to be a fan favorite. Its the proudcers/Directors who choose to give which character has character spot light or not. I can't wait for this film personally, but that's me :)

Why are you here Troll?

[TromaFreak64]

So much going on, I can't tell if this has been asked.

Do we actually see Cyke die/demolecularize, or does it cut away before we actually see him die? I know he's gone after that, but I'm just curious; do we see him die or is it just a really really strong suggestion?

You see his skin start to vibrate and apparently changing color and see that he can't escape...the rest is off screen and heavily suggested when Jean comes straight out and says it.

[Kurosawa]

You see his skin start to vibrate and apparently changing color and see that he can't escape...the rest is off screen and heavily suggested when Jean comes straight out and says it.

Jean: "Oh, by the way, I disintegrated Cyclops down at the lake today."

Storm: "Who?"

[cyke93]

Jean: "Oh, by the way, I disintegrated Cyclops down at the lake today."

Storm: "Who?"

hahaha

despite the laughs, the level of descent that has occured on these forums is amazing, but not necessarily in a good way. its one thing to voice your opinion, its another thing to be downright nasty.

but at this point, nothing we do cant change anything. 3 years we waited and this is what we get out of cyclops. the movie will still make tons of money and thatll be that. unless we manage to see a massive drop in numbers after the 1st weekend then fox would've won.

we all know fox is greedy but i cant believe marvel let them get away with this or stan lee for that matter, to take a character with 40 years of experience to go down the drain like this.. in a story involving the greatest piece of comic book writing ever, Phoenix, is a disgrace on their part. i know they sold the rights to fox, but i didn't think they sold them their souls as well.

[martinbluther]

Here is the link:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162 (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162)


I spent alot of time writing up this petition which is for the sole purpose of relaying to fox studios how a great majority of the fans are unhappy with the way Cyclops has been portrayed in the X-men trilogy. This took a while to create and required alot of cooperation so please take the time to read and sign it.







Our Last Stand for Cyclops in future movies




signed this... hope many of you will, too...

[bexta89]

Well, this completely sucks. I'll still see the movie, but i'm not sure if I'll enjoy it. It better have a damn good plot to make up for this.

[martinbluther]

If I direct attention to the thread about the X-future, is that OK?

[CapBeerCino]

Good morning! Im guessing no good news yet?

[WideAwake]

PWN3R RANGER,
I became a fan through the movies too, and I also like Wolverine. I can understand why they made him the main character: he's like the Han Solo of the X Men, the audience likes these kinds of characters.

But I totally understand where all the anger comes from.
I like Cyclops too, and I was shocked...and even a little pissed when I read the AICN script review, but I kept hoping for better.

To just have Wolverine take Cyclops' part in more than one way (not only saving Jean, but also becoming team leader) was just a bad decision.
The only reason the audience wouldn't be able to identify with him, is because he was never properly developped to begin with. There was a good start in X1, but they kinda messed that up with his almost non existant part in X2.

Marsden is not to blame for any of this, I think. Yes, he did film Superman Returns, but Fox should've been smarter in contracting all the actors right after the succes of X2. Also, Marsden is not the kind of A-list actor that can pick and choose his movies: he had the opportunity for a part in a big movie, and he took it.
But even if Marsden would've been available the whole time, I don't think he would've been made front and center, but that's at least better than what we're getting now. :(

[CapBeerCino]

You see his skin start to vibrate and apparently changing color and see that he can't escape...the rest is off screen and heavily suggested when Jean comes straight out and says it.

Im gonna threw up in the theater.

[silver_arrow]

what do you think are chances of cyclops to come back in x4? if you were to write, how would you manage to bring him back to the living?

[grey_jeanie]

Im gonna threw up in the theater.

And then cry. And then throw and drunken rant.

[LEX]

You see his skin start to vibrate and apparently changing color and see that he can't escape...the rest is off screen and heavily suggested when Jean comes straight out and says it.
That sounds nasty. :down

[CapBeerCino]

And then cry. And then throw and drunken rant.

Hehe I guess the midnight show in Leister square is going to be a lot more interesting...

[CapBeerCino]

That sounds nasty. :down

Yeah sound like a death reserved to the villains :(

[LEX]

So much "good guys always win".

[CapBeerCino]

Storm is sad about The Cure (or maybe it was Jean, cant remember).. anyway, she makes it cloudy.. then Prof comes out and says that the forecast was for sun.. so she takes the clouds away... He then tells her that she is *destined* to lead the X Men! (this is before Scott dies)


:( Somebody shoot me!

[wobbly]

what do you think are chances of cyclops to come back in x4? if you were to write, how would you manage to bring him back to the living?
I don't think it's likely he will come back: Not fully showing his death is just dangling a very small carrot for Cyke fans in a woeful attempt to appease them a little (aint working btw).

Anyways, will have to see for myself just how they have done his death here to think of something that might be plausable, but given the route they have taken this story it's not so much can they bring him back as should they?

[grey_jeanie]

I don't think it's likely he will come back: Not fully showing his death is just dangling a very small carrot for Cyke fans in a woeful attempt to appease them a little (aint working btw).

Anyways, will have to see for myself just how they have done his death here to think of something that might be plausable, but given the route they have taken this story it's not so much can they bring him back as should they?

Like those bag-sealed baby carrots you buy for kids in a supermarket

[CapBeerCino]

based on screen time, I would say, it goes in this order (as most screen time to least)

1. Storm

2. Wolverine

3. Magneto

4. Phoenix

5. Beast

Then following that with probably equal time is:

Prof X, Kitty Pryde, Callisto, Juggernaut, Pyro & Ice Man


Then, after those you get:

Angel, Rogue,


Followed by:

Arclight, Quill, Kavita, Colossus


Then finally, people that are there but only in a a bout 2/3/4 scenes:

Psylocke, Cyclops, Mystique, Multiple Man, Moira MacTaggart, Leech


Pheonix saga my a$$ :rolleyes:

I feel sick.

[CapBeerCino]

the cast of x3 is answering questions on the sci fi channel:

http://www.scifi.com/inside/xmen3/

cyclops faith may be sealed but hey, this is a way we could voice our frustrations. bombard them with nothing but cyclops questions. n im not even talking about his dying or nething or any flaming going on.. just keep directing questions to james.

maybe with someone with half a brain at fox would go .. "that cyclops character was not as dispensible as we thought" .. does nothing for cyclops now but eh its something

Anyone succeed posting a question?

[LEX]

Storm is sad about The Cure (or maybe it was Jean, cant remember).. anyway, she makes it cloudy.. then Prof comes out and says that the forecast was for sun.. so she takes the clouds away... He then tells her that she is *destined* to lead the X Men! (this is before Scott dies)
What a disgrace to the comics.

Well, I guess beggars can't be choosers.

[ironmaidenrules]

****
so its true
done?
he dies?
****
what a waste of tiem this thread has been

[Pizzaboy1138]

Anyone succeed posting a question?

Hit "Enter" after you've typed in your question.

It worked for me.

[CapBeerCino]

Oh, thanx. What did you ask?

[CapBeerCino]

Did you guy see that? Vote maybe someone in Fox is watching!
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231403

[JokerNick]

hey, where can I find some good shots of cyke from x3

[Aiden]

You can't

[Hulkster]

Hello guys, is Cyclops really dead in X3?

[Aiden]

Hello guys, is Cyclops really dead in X3?Yes :(

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Yes :(
I'm not 100% sure about that yet.

[StevieNicks1988]

The more I've thought about this, this is what I'm thinking.

This doesn't mean Scott won't return. They'll find a way, just like they apparantly have for _________.

Just like in the comics, they'll have Storm lead for a movie, like Scott did in X1 and nobody really led in X2.

I really think now with all the stuff being said, that there will be another trilogy of movies, just like with Star Wars, and Scott will return. Next time, though, let's just hope he isn't on another movie so instead of killing him or him hardly even being in the movie, he'll be a main player.

[Hulkster]

That's it, I'm not gonna see the ****ing movie.:mad:

[CapBeerCino]

I'm not 100% sure about that yet.

How come? What gives you hope?

[aaron]

If no one at FOX has realized that Tom Rothman is poison to quality films, then we're in trouble. I mean, he had no real faith in X-Men from the start (explanation on why it was given a relatively small budget compared to other sci-fi action flicks), he favored a Paul W.S. Anderson "Aliens vs. Predator" over a James Cameron/Ridley Scott "Alien 5" team-up, cut down a big chunk of "Kingdom of Heaven", and butchered many other comic book films (Elektra, Daredevil, LXG). Well, at least we have people like Alan Horn.
i hate rothamn with all my heart, so does alex proyas

[SCOTT&JEAN]

That's it, I'm not gonna see the ****ing movie.:mad:
Watch it cause untill you do that you won't know anything for sure.

I know that I don't and I don't believe everything I read.

[Aiden]

I'm not 100% sure about that yet.Why?
That's it, I'm not gonna see the ****ing movie.:mad:Why?

[StevieNicks1988]

Guys, just give it a rest. This IS Cyke we're talking about. If they make more sequels, he'll def be in them. So what if they come up with a funky reason to bring him back (like we know they will), atleast he WILL be back.