Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[NATE GREY]

I've often wondered if any interviewers would ask Hugh Jackman, how in developing his role of logan does he develop the side of the character of attempting to steal another mans (cyclops) long time lover!!(or fiancee). SOME HERO!!!

[fallenAngel]

CapBeerCino, I just want to say. I'm in love with your avatar.

[CapBeerCino]

nothing for us to do about it but complain. so i hope everyone has it out there and hopefully that makes the mfeel better. but its sad, the only wat to see justice from scottin the films is to read about it in fanfiction.

The fanfiction will have to be AU since Scott die. I hate AU :(

[CapBeerCino]

CapBeerCino, I just want to say. I'm in love with your avatar.

:) Hehe thank you I posted the full manip in the manip thread.

[gambitfire]

OMG J.Howlett i wish i could kick you out IT'S GETTIN OVERWHELMINGLY ANNOYING STOP TELLING PPL WHAT TO DO!!!!! NO IF SOMEONE REFUSES TO LET IT GO THAT'S UP TO THEM. PLEASE DON'T COME TO THIS THREAD ANYMORE.

[CapBeerCino]

No longer looking forward to taking a stand, *sits down pissed*


Lol, I dont know what I'd do without you guys! :) (actually I do - I'd be sitting alone in my room and cry)

[gambitfire]

Lol, I dont know what I'd do without you guys! :) (actually I do - I'd be sitting alone in my room and cry)

Cap you and SJ are the coolest girls in these here parts :D

[ginny_weasley]

I've vowed to let my anger go on this....and I've envisioned a way to cope with the cyclops debacle....

For me, Cyclops doesn't die at Alkali Lake - Jean doesn't vaporize him, she knocks him out good. Everything post Alkali is just a fevered dream of Cyke's while he's out for the count.

It actually fits: Cyke's nightmare is the exact manifestation of how things go to hell in a handbasket when he's not around: Storm takes his place as leader but fails to even save Xavier; Wolverine attempts to reach Jean but ultimately cannot take Cyke's place and is forced to kill her. This realization is the perfect motivation for Cyke to realize how much the XMen need him back in the game and to resume his role as the leader instead of pouting alone in his room.

After he wakes up, well, I think I can imagine things better than Fox. :p

[Bishop2]

Well, I must ask, how many of you are going to theater-hop your way in?

I think I might buy a ticket for Silent Hill or MI3, then walk into the X3 theater. They'll get no cash from me on this one!

[CapBeerCino]

Cap you and SJ are the coolest girls in these here parts :D

Lol thanx... Where is S&J? She sure choose a good time to disappear...

[CapBeerCino]

Well, I must ask, how many of you are going to theater-hop your way in?

I think I might buy a ticket for Silent Hill or MI3, then walk into the X3 theater. They'll get no cash from me on this one!

I never thought of that...

[Retroman]

Well, I must ask, how many of you are going to theater-hop your way in?

I think I might buy a ticket for Silent Hill or MI3, then walk into the X3 theater. They'll get no cash from me on this one!
Please don't do that.:(

[NATE GREY]

Welcome Nate Grey:) :up:

Have you guys seen the UK Featurette? They have all the X-Men lined up. Cyclops is in the middle in what appears to be a new shot of him in his X-gear.


Thanks, NO!! I haven't the Featurette, is it on line somewhere????

[gap5ewl]

I would like to point something out..

so far all the reviewers who said cyclops dies at alkali lake says you dont see his death. All they say is his face turns blackish and then it cuts to storm and wolverine coming up to that part of the lake and only seeing his glasses floating. So if he does die in that scene, i think its more implied rather than it being true and could be a great cliffhanger for x4 (especially if sinister is in it ;) ) which also means we would see a great expanded role for him in the future sequal

[Retroman]

Thanks, NO!! I haven't the Featurette, is it on line somewhere????
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/dynamic/menu.html?vid=2430301&mid=109239

Click on X-Men: The Last Stand Featurette

[Bishop2]

And another thing, for any of us hoping the secret scene at the end will be of Cyclops, it is not.

TheXverse gives it away when they bold 'x' in extra. Get it, X? As in....yeah.

I am frustrated with FOX. They gave a secret scene with Daredevil. I bet they thought the fans would love that too. :rolleyes:

Are you saying XAVIER comes back to life at the end?!

[Bishop2]

Please don't do that.:(

why not? Aside from the obvious possibility that it might be better not to see it at all. :p

[CapBeerCino]

I would like to point something out..

so far all the reviewers who said cyclops dies at alkali lake says you dont see his death. All they say is his face turns blackish and then it cuts to storm and wolverine coming up to that part of the lake and only seeing his glasses floating. So if he does die in that scene, i think its more implied rather than proven and could be a great cliffhanger for x4 (especially if sinister is in it ;) ) which also means we would have and expanded role for him in the future sequal

Better than nothing but this still means he wont shine in the Pheonix saga! :mad:

[Retroman]

I would like to point something out..

so far all the reviewers who said cyclops dies at alkali lake says you dont see his death. All they say is his face turns blackish and then it cuts to storm and wolverine coming up to that part of the lake and only seeing his glasses floating. So if he does die in that scene, i think its more implied rather than it being true and could be a great cliffhanger for x4 (especially if sinister is in it ;) ) which also means we would see a great expanded role for him in the future sequal
If theres no allusion to his ressurection it would be stupid t bring him back all of a sudden.

[Maze]

Well, I must ask, how many of you are going to theater-hop your way in?

I think I might buy a ticket for Silent Hill or MI3, then walk into the X3 theater. They'll get no cash from me on this one!

Very good idea :up:

and i will go see again Silent Hill,

i loved it , and seeing it and the first movie of Gans" Le Pacte des loups" ,imo that guy should do an Xmen :up:

[Retroman]

why not? Aside from the obvious possibility that it might be better not to see it at all. :p
Because i see a lot of good things going for this film.We're all X-Men fans are we not?

[CapBeerCino]

Very good idea :up:


Isn't it? Made me go "Duh!" :O

[CapBeerCino]

Because i see a lot of good things going for this film.We're all X-Men fans are we not?

Always but Fox is disrespectful to us fans, why give them our money? Im really liking the idea!

[gap5ewl]

If theres no allusion to his ressurection it would be stupid t bring him back all of a sudden.
how would that be stupid? in x4 they could show sinister picking him up and bringing him to his lab which may be why the x-men couldnt find his body which leads them to believe he was vaporized as well. I think it could work perfectly if we see this version of x3 in theatres.

[Bishop2]

Because i see a lot of good things going for this film.We're all X-Men fans are we not?

I've said before that, even before Cyke's death was confirmed... live or die, this movie looked like it was gonna blow from all evidence, and their decision for how to handle Scott and Logan's characters was gonna be the tipping point on whether I'd even give it my cash. Well, they screwed it up even worse than I could've imagined.

[Retroman]

Always but Fox is disrespectful to us fans, why give them our money? Im really liking the idea!
I'm sorry but they are getting my money.:O

[Maze]

If theres no allusion to his ressurection it would be stupid t bring him back all of a sudden.
I agree.

And imo , it's too much of a cop out.

and i fear if the go that way it will open the door to just convenient plot point , that will no longer make any sense,and that personnally i will not care anymore..(a little like in the 90 Xmen series )

[Maze]

Are you saying XAVIER comes back to life at the end?!
Yes , he does.....

A true insult :o :down

[gambitfire]

Cyke fans i think we pissed of Aiden :p
He complained about us in the "Save Haven thread" :D

[mustanger405]

How the hell can they bring xavier back.....that is the stupedest ***** I ever heard. His death actually makes sense and drives the plot. To just bring him back at the end rather then Cyclops is total b.s.

[CapBeerCino]

OMG when did we hit 22 k??? Anyhoo did you see the new Juggs clip? (a lil' cheesy yet again...)

[Maze]

Isn't it? Made me go "Duh!" :O
Lol they had it coming ;)

[gambitfire]

Here is the link:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162 (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162)


I spent alot of time writing up this petition which is for the sole purpose of relaying to fox studios how a great majority of the fans are unhappy with the way Cyclops has been portrayed in the X-men trilogy. This took a while to create and required alot of cooperation so please take the time to read and sign it.







Our Last Stand for Cyclops in future movies



i just did with my real name.

[Retroman]

how would that be stupid? in x4 they could show sinister picking him up and bringing him to his lab which may be why the x-men couldnt find his body which leads them to believe he was vaporized as well. I think it could work perfectly if we see this version of x3 in theatres.
What body?
This is supposed to be a series thats grounded in reality. We've already seen one resurrection with Jean Grey. Audiences are going to start asking questions when more characters come back from the dead.We might as well resurrect Sabretooth, Toad, Deathstrike, Callisto, Psylocke etc. too.

[CapBeerCino]

Cyke fans i think we pissed of Aiden :p
He complained about us in the "Save Haven thread" :D

I already told him if he's with us then be with us. ;) You know what they say - when the going gets tough...

[Maze]

I signed your petition yesterday mustanger405 ;):up:

[Bishop2]

Yes , he does.....

A true insult :o :down

HOW? He got demolecularized!

And WHY? It makes more sense to kill Xavier than Cyclops. Cyke has "seemingly" died once in the comics since he was introduced, but in actuality did not. Xavier has both seemingly and actually died a number of times. :lol

While I'm asking questions: How did we find out that Storm is declared leader while Scott is still around? How does this scene play? :(

[weatherwitch]

I already told him if he's with us then be with us. ;) You know what they say - when the going gets tough...

What? You can't be a Cyclops fan and not completely write the movie off as horrible based on his death? Perhaps Bill was dead on with the title of his thread....

[Maze]

What body?
This is supposed to be a series thats grounded in reality. We've already seen one resurrection with Jean Grey. Audiences are going to start asking questions when more characters come back from the dead.We might as well resurrect Sabretooth, Toad, Deathstrike, Callisto, Psylocke etc. too.
:up:

Nothing to add , you have resumed my thoughts on the matter.

[CapBeerCino]

Goody for you.

Kurosawa was the one to hit 20 k :D And Shadowboxing was the one to hit 10 k... Very simbolic if you ask me. :)

[CapBeerCino]

What? You can't be a Cyclops fan and not completely write the movie off as horrible based on his death? Perhaps Bill was dead on with the title of his thread....

I was joking. Go eat some rolo :p

[ginny_weasley]

I signed, mustanger405

:)

[Retroman]

I've said before that, even before Cyke's death was confirmed... live or die, this movie looked like it was gonna blow from all evidence, and their decision for how to handle Scott and Logan's characters was gonna be the tipping point on whether I'd even give it my cash. Well, they screwed it up even worse than I could've imagined.
Well thats your prerogative. You have every right to do that. I just don't want people to start trying to convince others not to pay to go see the film we've been talking about the past 12 months.

[weatherwitch]

Go eat some rolo :p
Mmmmmmmm...creamy, chocolaty goodness....What were we talkin' about again?

[cyke93]

I would like to point something out..

so far all the reviewers who said cyclops dies at alkali lake says you dont see his death. All they say is his face turns blackish and then it cuts to storm and wolverine coming up to that part of the lake and only seeing his glasses floating. So if he does die in that scene, i think its more implied rather than it being true and could be a great cliffhanger for x4 (especially if sinister is in it ;) ) which also means we would see a great expanded role for him in the future sequal

i remember saying the same thing in 2003. now look what happened. andy future x4 projects will not include cyclops period.

[Maze]

HOW? He got demolecularized!

And WHY? It makes more sense to kill Xavier than Cyclops.:(
I dunno , i understood that he transfer his mind a new body (a clone? )

[gambitfire]

What? You can't be a Cyclops fan and not completely write the movie off as horrible based on his death? Perhaps Bill was dead on with the title of his thread....

She was joking she's playful like that get that through your apparant thick skull.

[Maze]

While I'm asking questions: How did we find out that Storm is declared leader while Scott is still around? How does this scene play? :(
Not sure about that on the other hand.

[weatherwitch]

She was joking she's playful like that get that through your apparant thick skull.

And so was I...touchy much?

[Retroman]

:up:

Nothing to add , you have resumed my thoughts on the matter.
:) :)

[Retroman]

OMG when did we hit 22 k??? Anyhoo did you see the new Juggs clip? (a lil' cheesy yet again...)
What Juggernaut clip?:eek: :confused:

While I'm asking questions: How did we find out that Storm is declared leader while Scott is still around? How does this scene play? :(
Halle is talking about coming back for X4 so i think its safe to say she is the leader.Not sure about the scene.

[CapBeerCino]

And so was I...touchy much?

All of the Cyke fans are lately. And dont tell me you wouldn't be the same in our shoes.

[gambitfire]

And so was I...touchy much?

Constantly and always in the wrong place at the wrong time. :)

lol sorry i was joking and i was touchy but that's because i have a tendency of defending my friends especially girls.

[CapBeerCino]

What Juggernaut clip?:eek: :confused:
.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231496

New to me...

[Bishop2]

Halle is talking about coming back for X4 so i think its safe to say she is the leader.Not sure about the scene.

There is no announcement of any X4, nor is Halle signed up for any additional sequels, and she has also repeatedly said that this should be her last one, so um... huh? :confused:

[weatherwitch]

All of the Cyke fans are lately. And dont tell me you wouldn't be the same in our shoes.

I will most certainly tell you that. It's a mooooooovie. They are comic book characters. Look, I like to play on these boards, occassionally debate characters I know and enjoy sometimes heatedly, but I do not obsess to the point where their fictional fates affect my real life.

[kytrigger]

I posted this in another thread, but it has come up here also, so I will post my view on illegally downloading/theater hopping to see X3.

I understand that many of you are extremely dissapointed/angry that Cyclops dies. And that is fine, I'm not here to dissuade that notion, but, to me atleast, it seems completely hypocritcal to be so angry at this film, lambast it, and then still go see it without paying for it. Doing that isn't protesting the movie, it's just being cheap. If you are really that angry that Cyclops dies (or for some other reason), then don't go see the movie at all. By constantly saying this movie is terrible and then still going to see it without paying is just cheap and somewhat childish.

[weatherwitch]

Constantly and always in the wrong place at the wrong time. :)

lol sorry i was joking and i was touchy but that's because i have a tendency of defending my friends especially girls.

That's fine. Just rule of thumb where I'm concerned. I take none of this seriously--unless I am attacked personally. Aside from that, this is just fun and downtime for me. :D

[gambitfire]

I will most certainly tell you that. It's a mooooooovie. They are comic book characters. Look, I like to play on these boards, occassionally debate characters I know and enjoy sometimes heatedly, but I do not obsess to the point where their fictional fates affect my real life.

And what makes you think this Affects our real life. We are here discussing this just like you we keep this here and take it no where else. What damage has been done to you to sit here and debate with us our opinions and outcome?

edit- i just realized i sound like a real A$$ whole sorry WW i don't mean to come off this way.

[Retroman]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231496

New to me...
Thanks!
That was really cheesy.

[CapBeerCino]

I will most certainly tell you that. It's a mooooooovie. They are comic book characters. Look, I like to play on these boards, occassionally debate characters I know and enjoy sometimes heatedly, but I do not obsess to the point where their fictional fates affect my real life.


Right. Since you know all about our real life.... I've waited long and im pissed. But whatever. You seem to know best.

[ginny_weasley]

I will most certainly tell you that. It's a mooooooovie. They are comic book characters. Look, I like to play on these boards, occassionally debate characters I know and enjoy sometimes heatedly, but I do not obsess to the point where their fictional fates affect my real life.

I'm not a rabid Cyke fan, or even a rabid X-Men fan in general...and while Cyke kicking it at Alkali Lake isn't going to ruin my image of the XMen or Cyke...it is going to cause a small pang of sadness and regret when I think of these movies or watch X1 and X2. Sure, not the end of the world, or the end of the Xmen-verse - but it's a pang of sadness I could certainly live without.

But that's me. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Retroman]

There is no announcement of any X4, nor is Halle signed up for any additional sequels, and she has also repeatedly said that this should be her last one, so um... huh? :confused:
Would she be interested in appearing in any future X-Men spin off series such as a storyline involving the young mutants?

She said absolutely. She feels her character has really evolved into someone who can handle a position of leadership. (you will understand why this is when you see the film)

Halle Berry is totally excited that she has a lot more to do in this film. She would definately be interested in coming and working on any future X-Men features as a mentor and leaderto the young mutants.
Source: http://www.iesb.net/fox2006/051206b.php

[CapBeerCino]

Thanks!
That was really cheesy.

Wasn't it? With his voice though I realize how the "salmon piece for pudding" began :p

[MsNatchios]

I'm not a rabid Cyke fan, or even a rabid X-Men fan in general...and while Cyke kicking it at Alkali Lake isn't going to ruin my image of the XMen or Cyke...it is going to cause a small pang of sadness and regret when I think of these movies or watch X1 and X2. Sure, not the end of the world, or the end of the Xmen-verse - but it's a pang of sadness I could certainly live without.

But that's me. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Perfectly stated. And I don't buy it when certain fans of other characters tell Cyke fans to "get over it" when everyone knows they'd be as upset if the same thing happened to their favourites.

[MsNatchios]

Would she be interested in appearing in any future X-Men spin off series such as a storyline involving the young mutants?

She said absolutely. She feels her character has really evolved into someone who can handle a position of leadership. (you will understand why this is when you see the film)

Halle Berry is totally excited that she has a lot more to do in this film. She would definately be interested in coming and working on any future X-Men features as a mentor and leaderto the young mutants.
I guess I'll be skipping those films. :down

[Retroman]

Wasn't it? With his voice though I realize how the "salmon piece for pudding" began :p
They should have at least let him have a voice to match the physique.

[gambitfire]

They should have at least let him have a voice to match the physique.

They should of had the movie phone guy :D

[Maze]

Source: http://www.iesb.net/fox2006/051206b.php:confused:

LOL

and you know what? i've always defended Berry !
.....

[weatherwitch]

Right. Since you know all about our real life.... I've waited long and im pissed. But whatever. You seem to know best.

I don't know your life any more than you know mine. The point was the fate of comic characters are not going to make me "touchy" or "testy" and treat other posters with differing opinions with the same amount of callousness and disrespect some of you are showing in here. Guess what? Not everyone cares that Cyclops dies. i think it blows too, but will I boycott the movie? No. Bomb Fox? No. Treat other posters like the enemy? No. Grow up.

[Bishop2]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231496

New to me...

That was great, very funny that they actually threw in a reference to the infamous "The Juggernaut *****!," but still not enough to convince me to actually give them my money. :)

[weatherwitch]

And what makes you think this Affects our real life. We are here discussing this just like you we keep this here and take it no where else. What damage has been done to you to sit here and debate with us our opinions and outcome?

edit- i just realized i sound like a real A$$ whole sorry WW i don't mean to come off this way.

Not a problem. I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and group hug and call it a day.

[Maze]

I don't know your life any more than you know mine. The point was the fate of comic characters are not going to make me "touchy" or "testy" and treat other posters with differing opinions with the same amount of callousness and disrespect some of you are showing in here. Guess what? Not everyone cares that Cyclops dies. i think it blows too, but will I boycott the movie? No. Bomb Fox? No. Treat other posters like the enemy? No. Grow up.
Weatherwitch , reading you , since some times you seem like a reasonable person.

i don't know what the argument is with cap , but i can tell you that she is the one who have been attacked by other posters all day long..

[gambitfire]

:confused:

LOL

and you know what? i've always defended Berry !
.....

My god she's dumb.

[Retroman]

I guess I'll be skipping those films. :down
I know a few people who'll disagree.

[gambitfire]

Not a problem. I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and group hug and call it a day.

Sorry i also kinda of insulted Halle SO SORRY :O http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Gambitfire/hug.gif

[weatherwitch]

Sorry i also kinda of insulted Halle SO SORRY :O http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Gambitfire/hug.gif

I don't know Halle personally. Insult away. :p

[CapBeerCino]

I don't know your life any more than you know mine. The point was the fate of comic characters are not going to make me "touchy" or "testy" and treat other posters with differing opinions with the same amount of callousness and disrespect some of you are showing in here. Guess what? Not everyone cares that Cyclops dies. i think it blows too, but will I boycott the movie? No. Bomb Fox? No. Treat other posters like the enemy? No. Grow up.

Treat other posters like the enemy? It's the other way around missy. I dont take this out side the Cyclops thread yet in every thread I enter people are whining about the "Cyclops fans" that is what making me "touchy".
You really should go eat some rolo it seem to affect you good.

[Retroman]

:confused:

LOL

and you know what? i've always defended Berry !
.....
She's obviously pleased about her performance and wants more action.

[weatherwitch]

Weatherwitch , reading you , since some times you seem like a reasonable person.

i don't know what the argument is with cap , but i can tell you that she is the one who have been attacked by other posters all day long..

Sometimes...? Ok, I'll take that. I have no problem with Cap. She said that I would react the same way as she if the circumstances were different. I replied that no. i wouldn't. It's really not all that emotionally involved for me. Truly. I have no hard feelings towards anyone on these boards.

[PhePhe112]

Well, I must ask, how many of you are going to theater-hop your way in?

I think I might buy a ticket for Silent Hill or MI3, then walk into the X3 theater. They'll get no cash from me on this one!

that's actually a great idea....i will still see this film since Phoenix is my fav....but i'll still be pissed. I will do that, I'm not giving fox money!

[CapBeerCino]

that's actually a great idea....i will still see this film since Phoenix is my fav....but i'll still be pissed. I will do that, I'm not giving fox money!

Lol spread the word!

[Retroman]

While we're talking sequels. Heres a new qoute from Hugh Jackman talking about the Wolverine prequel....

"I'm not going to make a decision until I have the script right, but I'll definitely look at Brett [Ratner]. I don't want Wolverine to appear to be ‘X-Men 4' in disguise; I don't want to make it stylistically the same. I want to do something different.
Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4233

[PhePhe112]

Treat other posters like the enemy? It's the other way around missy. I dont take this out side the Cyclops thread yet in every thread I enter people are whining about the "Cyclops fans" that is what making me "touchy".
You really should go eat some rolo it seem to affect you good.


LOL you Go CAP! :up:

[weatherwitch]

Treat other posters like the enemy? It's the other way around missy. I dont take this out side the Cyclops thread yet in every thread I enter people are whining about the "Cyclops fans" that is what making me "touchy".
You really should go eat some rolo it seem to affect you good.

Please, feel free to point out any comment I've made where I called Cyclops fans "whiners" or made any derogative comment in that regard. I am a Cyclops fan. Jesus, woman, take a Zanyx or something and calm the hell down. You may be pissed at these other posters but stop taking it out on me. Why the hell do they even bother you? Seriously? You have every right to be upset about Cyke's death. I never said you didn't. I said it shouldn't affect your real life. Vent here it's what it's for, but after that, it shouldn't matter.

[CapBeerCino]

LOL you Go CAP! :up:

It's been one hell of a day... The board is really split in half...

[gambitfire]

Please, feel free to point out any comment I've made where I called Cyclops fans "whiners" or made any derogative comment in that regard. I am a Cyclops fan. Jesus, woman, take a Zanyx or something and calm the hell down. You may be pissed at these other posters but stop taking it out on me. Why the hell do they even bother you? Seriously? You have every right to be upset about Cyke's death. I never said you didn't. I said it shouldn't affect your real life. Vent here it's what it's for, but after that, it shouldn't matter.

CAP Girl your awesome im begging you please be the bigger person ignore this and don't respond to it DON'T FEED THE FIRE MY FRIEND. YOUR awesome Cap i stand by you all the way but let's leave this battle to the wind.

edit- LOL i should of read the whole thing before i posted :p

[Cyclops-Summers]

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[MsNatchios]

She's obviously pleased about her performance and wants more action.
Yeah but that won't stop me from being sick of her. I always thought casting her as Storm was a bad move on Singer's part but that's for another topic in another thread. Resentful much? Yes.

Ah, star power. As much as I love Marsden, these turns of events makes me wish Caviezel didn't drop out of X1.

[gambitfire]

It make me so angry about Cyke!!

He doesnt participate at final battle facing Jean!!!! why???? It was obligatory to make a scene like that!!! It's a symbol of Phoenix story : Cyclops trying to convince Jean ! like comics or cartoon.

They didnt make that in the movie, these idiot!!!

Cyclops dies, doesnt wear uniform, they lie us in putting him in costume in movie poster!!!

Your in the right place my friend Bitc# and Moan all you like and don't let anyone tell you that you can't.

[CapBeerCino]

Please, feel free to point out any comment I've made where I called Cyclops fans "whiners" or made any derogative comment in that regard. I am a Cyclops fan. Jesus, woman, take a Zanyx or something and calm the hell down. You may be pissed at these other posters but stop taking it out on me. Why the hell do they even bother you? Seriously? You have every right to be upset about Cyke's death. I never said you didn't. I said it shouldn't affect your real life. Vent here it's what it's for, but after that, it shouldn't matter.

http://www.jakehowlett.com/tuckshop/wrappers/chocolate/filled/rolo-smooth.jpg

Eat. Works better than Zanyx.

[gambitfire]

Yeah but that won't stop me from being sick of her. I always thought casting her as Storm was a bad move on Singer's part but that's for another topic in another thread. Resentful much? Yes.

Ah, star power. As much as I love Marsden, these turns of events makes me wish Caviezel didn't drop out of X1.

EWWWW Jesus Christ for Cyclops?! come on ppl are we that devisatated?!

[weatherwitch]

http://www.jakehowlett.com/tuckshop/wrappers/chocolate/filled/rolo-smooth.jpg

Eat. Works better than Zanyx.

Usually. But they go straight to my hips and uber fat ass....

[gambitfire]

http://www.jakehowlett.com/tuckshop/wrappers/chocolate/filled/rolo-smooth.jpg

Eat. Works better than Zanyx.

ive never had any are they good?

[weatherwitch]

ive never had any are they good?

Chocolate surrounding rich caramel...are they good? Darling, they're heavenly. :p

[MsNatchios]

EWWWW Jesus Christ for Cyclops?! come on ppl are we that devisatated?!
Would they treat Jesus this way? I think not. :mad:

[weatherwitch]

Would they treat Jesus this way? I think not. :mad:

Uh, no they would have tortured him for hours then let him die slowly as opposed to a quick vaporization.

[PhePhe112]

I just don't understand why ppl don't ignore posts....if you read something and you think it's whining just ignore it. I'd expect ppl to be pissed and complain if this happend to a different character. I also don't understand why ppl have to be rude?! (I'm not talking about anyone specifically)

[gambitfire]

Would they treat Jesus this way? I think not. :mad:

Good point :p

Weather Witch don't tempt me with your luring of evil :D

Must keep excersising.

[Cyclops-Summers]

It make me so angry about Cyke!!

He doesnt participate at final battle facing Jean!!!! why???? It was obligatory to make a scene like that!!! It's a symbol of Phoenix story : Cyclops trying to convince Jean ! like comics or cartoon.

They didnt make that in the movie, these idiot!!!

Cyclops dies, doesnt wear uniform, they lie us in putting him in costume in movie poster!!!

[MsNatchios]

Uh, no they would have tortured him for hours then let him die slowly as opposed to a quick vaporization.
Meh, more screen time.

[CapBeerCino]

Usually. But they go straight to my hips and uber fat ass....

Lol... This was silly, when I see the boys go at it Im always like "men :rolleyes: " (no offense boys) And now we were dragged into a cat fight... peace ?

[weatherwitch]

Good point :p

Weather Witch don't tempt me with your luring of evil :D

Must keep excersising.

Come to the dark side...we have chocolate. :D

[gambitfire]

Uh, no they would have tortured him for hours then let him die slowly as opposed to a quick vaporization.

Atleas he would of gone out in style. And everyone would of felt he's pain. :p

It's sad but i bet there are some Cyclop hating ppl who will laugh at his demmise :( and ill scream HEY JERK YOU AND ME OUTSIDE 3 O'CLOCK BEHIND THE MONKEY BARS!!!

[weatherwitch]

Lol... This was silly, when I see the boys go at it Im always like "men :rolleyes: " (no offense boys) And now we were dragged into a cat fight... peace ?

Most definitely. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/_massage__v_2_by_GibbyGibson.gif

[gambitfire]

Come to the dark side...we have chocolate. :D


No my kind of Darkside would have Chocolate fed to me by Famke, Rebbecca, and Anna. So does this darkside have those? :D

[CapBeerCino]

Most definitely. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/_massage__v_2_by_GibbyGibson.gif

A little more to the left :p

[gambitfire]

Most definitely. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/_massage__v_2_by_GibbyGibson.gif

what are you girls DOING!?!?! ;)

[weatherwitch]

Atleas he would of gone out in style. And everyone would of felt he's pain. :p

It's sad but i bet there are some Cyclop hating ppl who will laugh at his demmise :( and ill scream HEY JERK YOU AND ME OUTSIDE 3 O'CLOCK BEHIND THE MONKEY BARS!!!

Jungle gym. People can see under the monkey bars. Lay the smack down behind the jungle gym. then you can always say they fell... (Don't ask how I know these things)

[weatherwitch]

No my kind of Darkside would have Chocolate fed to me by Famke, Rebbecca, and Anna. So does this darkside have those? :D

That could be arranged...

[weatherwitch]

A little more to the left :p

**kneads to the left** better?

[MsNatchios]

Atleas he would of gone out in style. And everyone would of felt he's pain. :p

Jesus's on-screen death influenced a killer go and turn himself in after viewing the Passion. Cyclops gets to go out like a damn hiccup in X3. Which one would you prefer?

[weatherwitch]

what are you girls DOING!?!?! ;)

Making nice. Girls make up better than boys do.

[gambitfire]

Jungle gym. People can see under the monkey bars. Lay the smack down behind the jungle gym. then you can always say they fell... (Don't ask how I know these things)

Someone's been watching too much Family Guy :)

[CapBeerCino]

CAP Girl your awesome

:O Go on... :D

[gambitfire]

Jesus's on-screen death influenced a killer go and turn himself in after viewing the Passion. Cyclops gets to go out like a damn hiccup in X3. Which one would you prefer?

huh? im agreeing with you Jesus style. :D

[gambitfire]

:O Go on... :D

No i think ill stop :p

[CapBeerCino]

**kneads to the left** better?

Much :D What is written in your avvy btw? I cant make it out...

[MsNatchios]

huh? im agreeing with you Jesus style. :D
Oh I know...I just get passionate when I talk about his hiccup death...not directed at you in particular. ;)

[weatherwitch]

Much :D What is written in your avvy btw? I cant make it out...

Broken _ _ _ _ It's just four dashed lines for decoration. ;)

[cyke93]

cyclops' death in x3 is just like throwing a small pebble in a hugh pond. barely a splash and hardley and ripple effect.

logan and storm bring jean back to the mansion and never mention cyclops .. n cyclops is never mentioned after that. .... they'll mention him at the end and say "oh i thought he was captured oir injured.. o wellz"

[CapBeerCino]

Broken _ _ _ _ It's just four dashed lines for decoration. ;)

Oh yeah, I can see that now... :O

[gambitfire]

g2g bye ppl

[CapBeerCino]

g2g bye ppl

Good bye!

[Maze]

cyke93,

there are 818 pages here...818 pages of people ( for the most part) showing their love of Cyclops.

I can tell you that on Allocine ( most popular cinema website in France) a similar Cyke thread is one the most popular. I saw even non cyke fans ( and even Wolverine one!) saying that what's happening to him is a shame.
I saw numerous forums and website where people say the same thing on this topic.

I saw a guy in the mall,where i was working , a movie buff , that is not even a fan of the comic saying that he was beginning to have serious doubts about the direction of the movie...

So maybe the Xmen will forget easily Cyclops , but i have serious doubts that a lot of people will.

that is only the beginning buddy ;):up:

[weatherwitch]

g2g bye ppl
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

*cough* uh, bye...

[Maze]

g2g bye ppl
Good night Gambit :)

[N_z0]

Well thats your prerogative. You have every right to do that. I just don't want people to start trying to convince others not to pay to go see the film we've been talking about the past 12 months.

That's what's really frustrating me. The fact that i have spent (wasted?) 3 years of my life after x2 came out on this movie and we only get under 2 hours of movie.

[TromaFreak64]

Singer's outline was never leaked to my knowledge.A part from a few characters and the statement that the X-Men were going to face evolution itself.....

It was supposdly "fake" like that headstone...but I have my doubts.

[Maze]

That's what's really frustrating me. The fact that i have spent (wasted?) 3 years of my life after x2 came out on this movie and we only get under 2 hours of movie.
Yup,

I wonder what you know ( or don't ) about the movie N_z0, i have not read you since some times.

If you have not learned the latest , i will say with a Spiderman voice " you're sure you wanna know? ":o

[ginny_weasley]

cyke93,

there are 818 pages here...818 pages of people ( for the most part) showing their love of Cyclops.

I can tell you that on Allocine ( most popular cinema website in France) a similar Cyke thread is one the most popular. I saw even non cyke fans ( and even Wolverine one!) saying that what's happening to him is a shame.
I saw numerous forums and website where people say the same thing on this topic.

I saw a guy in the mall,where i was working , a movie buff , that is not even a fan of the comic saying that he was beginning to have serious doubts about the direction of the movie...

So maybe the Xmen will forget easily Cyclops , but i have serious doubts that a lot of people will.

that is only the beginning buddy ;):up:

I won't be suprised if the general audience picks up on things as well...the end of X2 made it pretty clear Jean and Scott were meant to be: even Logan acknowledged that Jean had made her choice, and that choice was Scott.

I can also say that I'm not a big Cyke fan (if anything, my anger over the direction of him in this film has only made me appreciate him more). The C2 in my sig is more about standing up for Cylcops getting his due than favoritism (believe it or not, I'm a Wolverine girl, myself).


PS, Retroman, I just saw all the Cyke pics you posted back in the 770s when I was browsing - those are great! Thanks! I snagged a few. :up:

[CapBeerCino]

cyke93,

there are 818 pages here...818 pages of people ( for the most part) showing their love of Cyclops.

I can tell you that on Allocine ( most popular cinema website in France) a similar Cyke thread is one the most popular. I saw even non cyke fans ( and even Wolverine one!) saying that what's happening to him is a shame.
I saw numerous forums and website where people say the same thing on this topic.

I saw a guy in the mall,where i was working , a movie buff , that is not even a fan of the comic saying that he was beginning to have serious doubts about the direction of the movie...

So maybe the Xmen will forget easily Cyclops , but i have serious doubts that a lot of people will.

that is only the beginning buddy ;):up:

That's it, im moving to France! (I want to live in eurodisney :D)

[PhePhe112]

I do hope that Jimmy see's this thread!....if so....

We LOVE you, Jimmy!!!! :cyclops:

[Maze]

That's it, im moving to France! (I want to live in eurodisney :D)
lol
You're welcome ! :D:up:

[N_z0]

Yup,

I wonder what you know ( or don't ) about the movie N_z0, i have not read you since some times.

If you have not learned the latest , i will say with a Spiderman voice " you're sure you wanna know? ":o

:(

...time to take down the Famke/Phoenix wallpaper at work? ...i think so. :(

[Maze]

I do hope that Jimmy see's this thread!....if so....

We LOVE you, Jimmy!!!! :cyclops:
:up: :up: :up:

[TromaFreak64]

Jesus's on-screen death influenced a killer go and turn himself in after viewing the Passion. Cyclops gets to go out like a damn hiccup in X3. Which one would you prefer?

Do you know how much Caviezel gets per a film? And how much James got for his last few films....I don't know what you are basing star power on....the fact that Passion was a huge succesful film and some critical acclaim over other films....or who gets paid more per film?

[Maze]

:(

...time to take down the Famke/Phoenix wallpaper at work? ...i think so. :(
..... i wan't even less be the one who bring the bad news now....:(

aemm , let's say that the movie is just a movie...we have the comics where things are like they should be.


And there will be one day anyways an "Xmen begins" ( even if that's a terrible tittle:o lol )

[lordofthenerds]

I do hope that Jimmy see's this thread!....if so....

We LOVE you, Jimmy!!!! :cyclops:
Not in a gay way though...but Andy does...

[CapBeerCino]

I do hope that Jimmy see's this thread!....if so....

We LOVE you, Jimmy!!!! :cyclops:

He doesn't look like a computer guy...
I want to ask him in the Q&A coming up if he is aware of all the support he has on-line...

[TromaFreak64]

Why haven't we start flooding with questions for Jimmy? Maybe we have and I just stayed out of the loop.

[CapBeerCino]

Not in a gay way though...but Andy does...

Not in a gay way? So you buy that "typo" excuse? :p

[CapBeerCino]

Why haven't we start flooding with questions for Jimmy? Maybe we have and I just stayed out of the loop.

I dont know. Cyke93 did. I just dont like them asking your name but I dont want to lie... We really should. Show Jimmy our support :up:

[TromaFreak64]

It is actually Cyclops' treatment in this film that made me finally realize that he was truly my favorite X-Men...thinking back when I was younger I was never totally sure who my favorite X-Men was..growing up I had a couple favorites...after X1 and X2, I started putting some thought into it and was pretty sure it was Cyclops, but once they mentioned killing him and I got so pissed about it, I realized I appreciate his characterization and stories over the years more than anyone else.

[ginny_weasley]

What Q and A is this?

[TromaFreak64]

I dont know. Cyke93 did. I just dont like them asking your name but I dont want to lie... We really should. Show Jimmy our support :up:

Yeah we should.

[CapBeerCino]

It is actually Cyclops' treatment in this film that made me finally realize that he was truly my favorite X-Men...thinking back when I was younger I was never totally sure who my favorite X-Men was..growing up I had a couple favorites...after X1 and X2, I started putting some thought into it and was pretty sure it was Cyclops, but once they mentioned killing him and I got so pissed about it, I realized I appreciate his characterization and stories over the years more than anyone else.


Let him know that under camouflage as a question...

[CapBeerCino]

What Q and A is this?

http://www.scifi.com/inside/xmen3/

[cyke93]

I dont know. Cyke93 did. I just dont like them asking your name but I dont want to lie... We really should. Show Jimmy our support :up:

i asked a question to famke about cyclops and how we finally see them kiss.

[TromaFreak64]

Gosh I stole my avatar from someone...whoever you are let me know so you get proper credit or demand I remove it

[ginny_weasley]

http://www.scifi.com/inside/xmen3/

gotcha, thanks!

We totally should craft a question that lets him know how much support he and his character have....of course, it's doubly tricky as it can't give away spoilers AND technically has to be a question...

hmmm

[cyke93]

some questions to bombard the actors with are:

hugh: something about how him taking a leadership position is very unlike his character in the comics

patrick - do we see the father/son connection between him and scott like in the comics

james - how was it working with ian/ or any other actor for that matter since he prolly only has scenes with logan and famke

james - ask about modifications to his visor/ or x suit

rathner - anything about the original 5 x-men

[CapBeerCino]

i asked a question to famke about cyclops and how we finally see them kiss.

That could work too: if you're not asking Jimmy, ask a question about Jimmy! :D ("...so Hugh, what was it like holding Jimmy's glasses?" :D)

[cyke93]

gotcha, thanks!

We totally should craft a question that lets him know how much support he and his character have....of course, it's doubly tricky as it can't give away spoilers AND technically has to be a question...

hmmm

exactly. . putting questions up that clearly show flaming will not be put on the air.. but if enough people ask in a legit way. it might make it on tv

[TromaFreak64]

I am just going to send like 10,000 questions about Cyclops.....that'll teach Fox....maybe it won't but it will show them how popular he is.

[CapBeerCino]

Gosh I stole my avatar from someone...whoever you are let me know so you get proper credit or demand I remove it

Well it's about time! :up:

[cyke93]

That could work too: if you're not asking Jimmy, ask a question about Jimmy! :D ("...so Hugh, what was it like holding Jimmy's glasses?" :D)

hehe well i try to make it more constructive like that lol .. but basically the point is asking questions to james about cyclops or asking it to anyone else and refer it back to cyclops

like the actor playing pyro, ask him if james is really funny off the screen as everyone says he is (cuz its obvious james has no contact with any of thet villians in this film except famke)

[CapBeerCino]

it might make it on tv

Where will it show? (or rather - where could I download it?)

[cyke93]

all the questions i mentioned i already posted up.. the more people who ask them .. the more likely we'll see it appear on screen

[cyke93]

Where will it show? (or rather - where could I download it?)

sci-fi .. i think they are showing marvel movies and that during commercials and stuff, we'll see the cast hosting

[ginny_weasley]

Hmmm, some ideas for Jimmy questions:

*There's the obvious "Jimmy, did you know that you, as an actor, and your character have an incredible amount of support from the fans all over net surrounding this film?"....it technically IS a question....

*Or flat out "Dear SciFi, I don't have a question. I'm writing on behalf of a number of fans who want to let Jimmy know that he has a great deal of support in regards to his performance in the X-Men movies and that there are many fans who continue to value his character. Because this isn't a question, we don't expect it to be read on air. We only ask that you convey its message to Jimmy."

*Or "As X3 approaches, I would like to say that you and your character have a considerable amount of support amongst many fans. Would you consider playing Cyclops in any future movies?"
^^^we know the answer will be vague or a no, but, hey, it gets the point across that he's got support.

[CapBeerCino]

Hmmm, some ideas for Jimmy questions:

*There's the obvious "Jimmy, did you know that you, as an actor, and your character have an incredible amount of support from the fans all over net surrounding this film?"....it technically IS a question....

*Or flat out "Dear SciFi, I don't have a question. I'm writing on behalf of a number of fans who want to let Jimmy know that he has a great deal of support in regards to his performance in the X-Men movies and that there are many fans who continue to value his character. Because this isn't a question, we don't expect it to be read on air. We only ask that you convey its message to Jimmy."

*Or "As X3 approaches, I would like to say that you and your character have a considerable amount of support amongst many fans. Would you consider playing Cyclops in any future movies?"
^^^we know the answer will be vague or a no, but, hey, it gets the point across that he's got support.

Not bad at all I might use some... Are you gonna post under your real name?

[ginny_weasley]

Not bad at all I might use some... Are you gonna post under your real name?

I hadn't planned on asking any for sure...so y'all are welcome to snag them. Let me know if you do though, so I won't worry about whether or not I should.

I care more about Jimmy getting our support than who is the messenger. :)

[Bishop2]

Hell yeah. Flood 'em with love for Cyclops! FLOOD 'em!

[Eros]

i hoghslu doubt James cares about his cyclops role or love, hes done with the franchise. Im pretty sure hes more interested in his superman returns role anyway [hes a huge fan of the old movies and supes]

[Bishop2]

i hoghslu doubt James cares about his cyclops role or love, hes done with the franchise. Im pretty sure hes more interested in his superman returns role anyway [hes a huge fan of the old movies and supes]

I'm pretty sure he's done with that franchise now too.

[gap5ewl]

no jimmy has stated he loves the x-franchise and would do it for free

[Bishop2]

no jimmy has stated he loves the x-franchise and would do it for free

I remember when he was the only team member who did a few convention appearances alongside Singer after the first movie opened... and of course he brought the ruby glasses with him.

Sigh. In comparison we have Halle Berry, who's been trying to skip out on playing Storm practically since day one, and who kinda sucks in her role to boot. The studio falls over themselves to give the difficult actors what they want, and they screw the actors who do a good job and love the part in the process. :(

[cyke93]

I remember when he was the only team member who did a few convention appearances alongside Singer after the first movie opened... and of course he brought the ruby glasses with him.

Sigh. In comparison we have Halle Berry, who's been trying to skip out on playing Storm practically since day one, and who kinda sucks in her role to boot. The studio falls over themselves to give the difficult actors what they want, and they screw the actors who do a good job and love the part in the process. :(

the story just gets worse and worse each day.

[weatherwitch]

I remember when he was the only team member who did a few convention appearances alongside Singer after the first movie opened... and of course he brought the ruby glasses with him.

Sigh. In comparison we have Halle Berry, who's been trying to skip out on playing Storm practically since day one, and who kinda sucks in her role to boot. The studio falls over themselves to give the difficult actors what they want, and they screw the actors who do a good job and love the part in the process. :(

People, come on, lay off Halle. I have no problem with those that don't like her as an actor or whatever, but get the facts straight. Singer did not want the Storm character period. Regardless of the actress and he made no secret of this. Can't blame her for telling him to kiss her black ass. I like Cyclops too, but I'm not blaming Jackman and Halle for his lackluster role. James made his bed when he chose to do Superman. Something I totally do NOT blame him for, but this is an industry like no other and there are petty consequences to moves like that. Sad, but true.

[Bishop2]

People, come on, lay off Halle. I have no problem with those that don't like her as an actor or whatever, but get the facts straight. Singer did not want the Storm character period. Regardless of the actress and he made no secret of this. Can't blame her for telling him to kiss her black ass. I like Cyclops too, but I'm not blaming Jackman and Halle for his lackluster role. James made his bed when he chose to do Superman. Something I totally do NOT blame him for, but this is an industry like no other and there are petty consequences to moves like that. Sad, but true.

I don't think he "made his bed." Tom Rothman made his bed for him. There was plenty of time for him to film adequate Cyke material, and no sign of X3 gearing up for filming since they waited until the last second on everything.

As for Halle... I'd be easier on her if I thought she was ever a good choice for the role. Or if she didn't claim that she would never do another X-Men but wanted to do a sequel to Catwoman just two years ago. Or if she didn't claim that X2 didn't increase her role at all. But at the end of the day, my main problem is that I'd like to go back in time and recast. No matter how she plays it, she's just never going to be right for the part. It was just bad casting.

[CapBeerCino]

Why is every thread that might be negative gets close with no explanations yet that stupid thread for "people with brains" stays open? Who's the mod?

[Kurosawa]

Why is every thread that might be negative gets close with no explanations yet that stupid thread for "people with brains" stays open? Who's the mod?

They can keep the thread open, but change the title.

[JZ1]

James made his bed when he chose to do Superman. Something I totally do NOT blame him for, but this is an industry like no other and there are petty consequences to moves like that. Sad, but true.

maybe James saw both scripts and picked the better one.

They can still change the cliffhanger in the end of the movie.. it could be cyclops and it could not. if its not well hell is breaking loose on ratner/fox. lol

[CapBeerCino]

They can keep the thread open, but change the title.

Well now it's "reborn" (so it will probably make out with Wolverine in no time)

[MsNatchios]

People, come on, lay off Halle. I have no problem with those that don't like her as an actor or whatever, but get the facts straight. Singer did not want the Storm character period. Regardless of the actress and he made no secret of this. Can't blame her for telling him to kiss her black ass. I like Cyclops too, but I'm not blaming Jackman and Halle for his lackluster role. James made his bed when he chose to do Superman. Something I totally do NOT blame him for, but this is an industry like no other and there are petty consequences to moves like that. Sad, but true.
A lot of people like Halle as Storm but another large portion of people don't, myself being one of them. I didn't get that he was blaming Halle for Cyke's crappy role in the movie but just using it as an example of how far up her @ss the studio is because of her star power, yet they screw over a fan favourite played by a very professional and likeable actor for very idiotic reasons. She definitely doesn't play the role any better than Marsden's Cyclops. She did say that she wouldn't come back unless her role was drastically changed from X1 and X2. Marden said he loves Cyclops and would work for free. At the end of the day, who got the bigger piece of the pie? In this case, bringing her up is just pointing out the irony...not just simply Halle-bashing.

[Kurosawa]

Halle definately made them expand their role. But that's more their fault for letting her than it was her for pushing for a better part.

[Supreme Power]

I don't think he "made his bed." Tom Rothman made his bed for him. There was plenty of time for him to film adequate Cyke material, and no sign of X3 gearing up for filming since they waited until the last second on everything.

As for Halle... I'd be easier on her if I thought she was ever a good choice for the role. Or if she didn't claim that she would never do another X-Men but wanted to do a sequel to Catwoman just two years ago. Or if she didn't claim that X2 didn't increase her role at all. But at the end of the day, my main problem is that I'd like to go back in time and recast. No matter how she plays it, she's just never going to be right for the part. It was just bad casting.

A little to late for that now don't you think. :rolleyes:

[MsNatchios]

Halle definately made them expand their role. But that's more their fault for letting her than it was her for pushing for a better part.
Exactly.

[gap5ewl]

so i see we still have cyke fans who believe halle was the reason for cykes small role?

cyclops was given a small role because james was doing superman returns.

storm really needed an expanded role because she wasnt given a proper role in the first two films. Despite what you say, cyclops did have pretty good character development in the first two films even with his supporting role in x2.

[N_z0]

but get the facts straight. Singer did not want the Storm character period. Regardless of the actress and he made no secret of this.

How is that any different from Halle's "I was reduced to playing a comic book character?"

No matter the context, it still conveys the fact that Halle never wanted this role to begin with way back in 1999, on top of her comments about not doing any superhero movies other than catwoman 2, prior to appearing in X2.

[gambitfire]

how many times have you posted that? :D im just wondering

Edit-referring to the petition

[gambitfire]

so i see we still have cyke fans who believe halle was the reason for cykes small role?

cyclops was given a small role because james was doing superman returns.

storm really needed an expanded role because she wasnt given a proper role in the first two films. Despite what you say, cyclops did have pretty good character development in the first two films even with his short role in x2.

No one said stop changing things around

[MsNatchios]

so i see we still have cyke fans who believe halle was the reason for cykes small role?
Okay I guess you don't read the posts, just skim for the word: Halle.

[TheWeatherMan]

maybe James saw both scripts and picked the better one.

They can still change the cliffhanger in the end of the movie.. it could be cyclops and it could not. if its not well hell is breaking loose on ratner/fox. lol

I don't think there was a script for X3 when Jimmy made his decision.

[Kurosawa]

so i see we still have cyke fans who believe halle was the reason for cykes small role?

cyclops was given a small role because james was doing superman returns.

storm really needed an expanded role because she wasnt given a proper role in the first two films. Despite what you say, cyclops did have pretty good character development in the first two films even with his short role in x2.

They had Marsden for a month. Blaming his pathetic role on it is no longer valid.

[WorthyStevens]

so i see we still have cyke fans who believe halle was the reason for cykes small role?

cyclops was given a small role because james was doing superman returns.

storm really needed an expanded role because she wasnt given a proper role in the first two films. Despite what you say, cyclops did have pretty good character development in the first two films even with his supporting role in x2.

I don't blame Halle one bit. Storm deserved to have a bigger, meatier role.

I put the blame on one person, and one person only:

Tom Rothman.

When Halle wanted a more in depth role, it was Rothman who decided to give her one of the biggest roles in the movie. Mostly because she and Hugh are two of the biggest stars in the movie. And add in the fact that Rothman wanted Wolverine to be the hero (once again :rolleyes:), that left nothing for Cyke to do.

Of course, that's just my theory.

[TheWeatherMan]

A lot of people like Halle as Storm but another large portion of people don't, myself being one of them. I didn't get that he was blaming Halle for Cyke's crappy role in the movie but just using it as an example of how far up her @ss the studio is because of her star power, yet they screw over a fan favourite played by a very professional and likeable actor for very idiotic reasons. She definitely doesn't play the role any better than Marsden's Cyclops. She did say that she wouldn't come back unless her role was drastically changed from X1 and X2. Marden said he loves Cyclops and would work for free. At the end of the day, who got the bigger piece of the pie? In this case, bringing her up is just pointing out the irony...not just simply Halle-bashing.

Point well taken! But I am not in agreement about your perception of Halle's role expansion. However, after Jimmy took the role with Singer, after Singer left the X-men franchise for SR and took most of his crew with him, Fox didn't care about his character anymore. He signed his death certificate when he signed on with SR. It's just sad that studios feel that they own actors or that they have exclusive rights to them. If Jimmy had the time then it should not have been an issue.

[CapBeerCino]

I don't blame Halle one bit. Storm deserved to have a bigger role.

I put the blame on one person, and one person only:

Tom Rothman.



:up: Or as aicn call him - the villain in x-3 http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6650/demulocarize9us.gif

[gap5ewl]

How is that any different from Halle's "I was reduced to playing a comic book character?"

No matter the context, it still conveys the fact that Halle never wanted this role to begin with way back in 1999, on top of her comments about not doing any superhero movies other than catwoman 2, prior to appearing in X2.

sorry wrong answer. that "I was reduced to playing a comic book character?" line was reallly taken out of context. just ask lightning im pretty sure he even has the interview still. halle not wanting this comic book role?
the reason why she said she would probally not do another superhero movie when catwoman came out is because she knew if singer stayed, he would either do the same thing with her role or just cut her out completely. Storm was basically used for some cool special effects shots and to fly the x-jet in x2. she never really got a proper developed character and now she has finally got it in this film.

[Mar420x]

Here is the link:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162 (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162)


I spent alot of time writing up this petition which is for the sole purpose of relaying to fox studios how a great majority of the fans are unhappy with the way Cyclops has been portrayed in the X-men trilogy. This took a while to create and required alot of cooperation so please take the time to read and sign it.







Our Last Stand for Cyclops in future movies




manye only 68 signatures currently. hopefully it climbs by the official release date. i already signed it. peace.

[MsNatchios]

Point well taken! But I am not in agreement about your perception of Halle's role expansion. However, after Jimmy took the role with Singer, after Singer left the X-men franchise for SR and took most of his crew with him, Fox didn't care about his character anymore. He signed his death certificate when he signed on with SR. It's just sad that studios feel that they own actors or that they have exclusive rights to them. If Jimmy had the time then it should not have been an issue.
There's no proof that Fox cared about his character to begin with. People say he had a more developed role than Storm in the first two films but I disagree. What does the audience know about the character aside from the fact that he's Jean's fiance who shoots beams from his eyes? I think they only cared about Wolverine, then after Monster's Ball they started to give a **** about Halle Berry. Moving to SR just gave Fox reason to make an example out of him. If I were Jimmy I wouldn't have even bothered doing the movie but that just shows how professional he is.

[TheWeatherMan]

How is that any different from Halle's "I was reduced to playing a comic book character?"

No matter the context, it still conveys the fact that Halle never wanted this role to begin with way back in 1999, on top of her comments about not doing any superhero movies other than catwoman 2, prior to appearing in X2.

N_z0, I think I see your point. But I think a lot of people fail to understand that it's not as if Halle knew about the X-Men and Storm prior to taking the movie. Like any actor she was probably approached to do this movie and they explained the premise of the X-men and she probably just thought it would be a cool movie to be in. It's not as if she thought less of the X-Men and the films, I think it was the fact that she wasn't educated about them. And when she was edcuated (by disappointed fans who felt that she didn't do a good job as Storm) she brought her issues to Brian and the franchise and wanted them to correct it. The ONLY black character being represented in this entire movie (X1) and she is the one that is not written-in or directed or portrayed correctly? I think that is where she was coming from. People just love to focus on her flaws in the film and assume that she is just being a diva, instead of looking at it from a different angle. All actors need direction, and the direction for Storm's character in both films were sub-par and that's being generous.

[TheWeatherMan]

There's no proof that Fox cared about his character to begin with. People say he had a more developed role than Storm in the first two films but I disagree. What does the audience know about the character aside from the fact that he's Jean's fiance who shoots beams from his eyes? I think they only cared about Wolverine, then after Monster's Ball they started to give a **** about Halle Berry. Moving to SR just gave Fox reason to make an example out of him. If I were Jimmy I wouldn't have even bothered doing the movie but that just shows how professional he is.

Damn... you may be on to something there. We don't have any indication that Fox cared at all about Cyke, especially after he was MIA for more than 45 minutes in a 2hr and 20-something minute movie. It's politics... and it's sad that they give all of the male-lead content to Wolverine's character instead of giving everyone some screen time. Because from what I am seeing and reading about in X3, Storm is performing as an 2nd in command leader would be... but Wolverine is performing as Wolverine and Cyclops... IMO, it's just not right!

[N_z0]

sorry wrong answer. that "I was reduced to playing a comic book character?" line was reallly taken out of context. just ask lightning im pretty sure he even has the interview still. halle not wanting this comic book role?
the reason why she said she would probally not do another superhero movie when catwoman came out is because she knew if singer stayed, he would either do the same thing with her role or just cut her out completely. Storm was basically used for some cool special effects shots and to fly the x-jet in x2. she never really got a proper developed character and now she has finally got it in this film.

:rolleyes:

what was the question?

I was comparing Marsden's obvious enthusiasm for playing Cyclops to Berry's annoyance of having to don that horrible silver cape for her part in Storm. Sure her complaints in the media might have been a ploy to work up a new contract (Oscar statuette anyone?), but isn't it a bit hypocritical for fans to blame Marsden when Halle was doing the exact same thing.

Sorry wrong answer. (Hey i can come up with random catch phrases too.)

[cyke93]

here's my take with halle

shes an oscar winner and a big star, because of that she was able to get a stronger role in x3, which isnt that bad considering that in context her and cyclops were the most underdeveloped characters in x1 n x2.

the difference though is that in x3, it clearly calls for cyclops to have a more active role. but his role was prolly cut to assign more leadership responsibilites to storm.

now i agree that james plays cyclops better than halle plays storm, but storm fans should be happy that halle was given more to do with storm. cyclops fans arent so lucky . so this is not a halle-bashing, its just the truth.

[WorthyStevens]

here's my take with halle

shes an oscar winner and a big star, because of that she was able to get a stronger role in x3, which isnt that bad considering that in context her and cyclops were the most underdeveloped characters in x1 n x2.

the difference though is that in x3, it clearly calls for cyclops to have a more active role. but his role was prolly cut to assign more leadership responsibilites to storm.

now i agree that james plays cyclops better than halle plays storm, but storm fans should be happy that halle was given more to do with storm. cyclops fans arent so lucky . so this is not a halle-bashing, its just the truth.

Blame Rothman for making Storm the main leader in this one. Now, Storm should lead as second-in-command, but Scott should've be the main leader.

[Supreme Power]

here's my take with halle

shes an oscar winner and a big star, because of that she was able to get a stronger role in x3, which isnt that bad considering that in context her and cyclops were the most underdeveloped characters in x1 n x2.

the difference though is that in x3, it clearly calls for cyclops to have a more active role. but his role was prolly cut to assign more leadership responsibilites to storm.

now i agree that james plays cyclops better than halle plays storm, but storm fans should be happy that halle was given more to do with storm. cyclops fans arent so lucky . so this is not a halle-bashing, its just the truth.

I agree, but not with that part. We might not believe it, but imo having the supes part really did hurt Cykes role in this one. And maybe, just maybe the execs were mad with him doing the film anyway.

[TheWeatherMan]

here's my take with halle

shes an oscar winner and a big star, because of that she was able to get a stronger role in x3, which isnt that bad considering that in context her and cyclops were the most underdeveloped characters in x1 n x2.

the difference though is that in x3, it clearly calls for cyclops to have a more active role. but his role was prolly cut to assign more leadership responsibilites to storm.

now i agree that james plays cyclops better than halle plays storm, but storm fans should be happy that halle was given more to do with storm. cyclops fans arent so lucky . so this is not a halle-bashing, its just the truth.

Cyke, some of it is truth. What get's me stumped is when it is assumed that Cyke was out because Halle is in. In a perfect X3 movie, Cyclops would have been busy trying to get Jean back... he would have been doing the majority of what Wolverine is doing, in regards to Jean. I don't think he would have been focused on leading. My point is that Storm would have had to step up to 1st in command anyway. The only difference is that her and Scott would have been doing it together and Wolverine would have been there to help. Instead, they kill Cyke off so that Wolverine and play both parts which leaves Halle to lead on her own. In the end, let's be real... they wanted Wolverine to be the savior and to be the one emotionally and romantically tied to Jean so it was easy for them to let Scott go. Like you, I think it's B.S., but he wasn't out because of Storm's character.

[MsNatchios]

here's my take with halle

shes an oscar winner and a big star, because of that she was able to get a stronger role in x3, which isnt that bad considering that in context her and cyclops were the most underdeveloped characters in x1 n x2.

the difference though is that in x3, it clearly calls for cyclops to have a more active role. but his role was prolly cut to assign more leadership responsibilites to storm.

now i agree that james plays cyclops better than halle plays storm, but storm fans should be happy that halle was given more to do with storm. cyclops fans arent so lucky . so this is not a halle-bashing, its just the truth.
I really don't see the harm in venting about studio politics. At the end of the day they're the ones making millions of off this from the fans, who are the ones getting screwed over.

[TheWeatherMan]

I agree, but not with that part. We might not believe it, but imo having the supes part really did hurt Cykes role in this one. And maybe, just maybe the execs were mad with him doing the film anyway.

That is my point exactly! I am not in agreement, but that is how the world is right now. People with power abuse it and Fox or Rothman, definatly abused it here.

[Supreme Power]

Cyke, some of it is truth. What get's me stumped is when it is assumed that Cyke was out because Halle is in. In a perfect X3 movie, Cyclops would have been busy trying to get Jean back... he would have been doing the majority of what Wolverine is doing, in regards to Jean. I don't think he would have been focused on leading. My point is that Storm would have had to step up to 1st in command anyway. The only difference is that her and Scott would have been doing it together and Wolverine would have been there to help. Instead, they kill Cyke off so that Wolverine and play both parts which leaves Halle to lead on her own. In the end, let's be real... they wanted Wolverine to be the savior and to be the one emotionally and romantically tied to Jean so it was easy for them to let Scott go. Like you, I think it's B.S., but he wasn't out because of Storm's character.

:eek: Hey, you got a point there.

[cyke93]

Blame Rothman for making Storm the main leader in this one. Now, Storm should lead as second-in-command, but Scott should've be the main leader.

exactly, n storm is claustrophic, they could've used that also in the movies n explain how she got that way.. that gives her character more meat .

i was always here with a "half empty" glass approach. but that thinking with a "worst case scenerio" frame of mind. but now we're in exactly that. after the uproar of cyke's death, i was daym near certain that we would at least have a scene where jean projects cyclops and we would have the 2 interact (though it was all in her mind) but no .. all the worst case scenerio happened in this movie:

1. gets killed early

2. LOGAN Takes up his leadership position

3. STORM also (though she is more understandable considering she was a leader in the comics)

4. It's nothing but a Logan/Jean fest

5. his death only brings about Logan and Storm getting more screen time

6. the original context of the phoenix story as an epic story of enduring love is completely gone, we have all the effects and not the heart that made the original phoenix storyline an icon in the comic world

instead we get the grieving boyfriend, who disregards his responsibilities to the scool and is killed by his once dead girlfriend.. or ex girlfriend.. who's screen presence was so little in x2 and now in x3 that the general audience will soon forget him.

[cyke93]

I agree, but not with that part. We might not believe it, but imo having the supes part really did hurt Cykes role in this one. And maybe, just maybe the execs were mad with him doing the film anyway.

that's why i say "prolly" im just assuming there. if there was another character (im not talking about the actor themselves) who helped with cyclops getting the shaft, it is wolverine, by far.

scott could've been so busy with jean and storm had to take up the mantel and logan would be there for support. storm and logan could've still carried the movie on their shoulders if they went this route, but yea.. we got this crap.

[MsNatchios]

You speak the truth, cyke.

I came in here to vent but reading all these posts is making more upset!!

[ginny_weasley]

:up: Or as aicn call him - the villain in x-3 http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6650/demulocarize9us.gif

I name that the winning avatar!

[cyke93]

You speak the truth, cyke.

I came in here to vent but reading all these posts is making more upset!!

thank you. with all the nastiness going on here, i dont want to come off as some of the other posters on this forum, despite the fact that i share many of their sentiments.

coming here everyday has been upsetting and there is nothing we can do. this thread should be renamed "Cyclops support thread"

[Bishop2]

Now that we've all seen what Tom Rothman looks like, you may recognize him. Perhaps he shops at your local market. Perhaps you have ridden the subway with him.

The important thing to remember is that if you are exposed to Tom Rothman, do not panic. Tackling him to the ground and then undoing your pants and peeing on him while screaming "CYCLOPS LIVES, MOTHER****ER!" is not socially acceptable behavior.

The polite comic fan will approach him calmly as such:

You: "Excuse me sir, are you Tom Rothman?"
Him: "Why yes, I am."
You: "I must say, in light of your treatment of Cyclops in the X-Men films, I have a great desire to pee all over you."

[cyke93]

ive said this before and ill say it again,

cyclops is such a staple of x-men from day 1 back in 1963. After the uproar in the leaked script, you would think something would be done to tweak things around. With fox execs, we know where they are coming from, its all about $$$. But I think Marvel or Stan Lee or someone over there should've said something. I know they signed over the movie rights, I just didn't think they sold them their souls either

[cyke93]

Now that we've all seen what Tom Rothman looks like, you may recognize him. Perhaps he shops at your local market. Perhaps you have ridden the subway with him.

The important thing to remember is that if you are exposed to Tom Rothman, do not panic. Tackling him to the ground and then undoing your pants and peeing on him while screaming "CYCLOPS LIVES, MOTHER****ER!" is not socially acceptable behavior.

The polite comic fan will approach him calmly as such:

You: "Excuse me sir, are you Tom Rothman?"
Him: "Why yes, I am."
You: "I must say, in light of your treatment of Cyclops in the X-Men films, I have a great desire to pee all over you."

well said. lol

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'd dare you to do that. :) Seriously man...i think the guy deserves it.

[Bishop2]

ive said this before and ill say it again,

cyclops is such a staple of x-men from day 1 back in 1963. After the uproar in the leaked script, you would think something would be done to tweak things around. With fox execs, we know where they are coming from, its all about $$$. But I think Marvel or Stan Lee or someone over there should've said something. I know they signed over the movie rights, I just didn't think they sold them their souls either

People weren't exactly happy with the early AICN script review of Fantastic Four either, and yet... that movie stayed the same aside from like two changes (Van Damme = Von Doom), too!

Just goes to show... they dont' really give a damn what we want. They believe they know best.

[gambitfire]

I'd dare you to do that. :) Seriously man...i think the guy deserves it.

i just might.

[cyke93]

i wasnt a FF fan, i know of them growing up and i maybe watched some cartoons and i know a little bit about each character but i never followed them. i dint watch it in theatres and i heard all this bad stuff about it. i watched recently on dvd and i thought it was good, not mind blowingly great but not bad. jessica alba (i think shes gorgous but not a good actress) was not that bad. .. but mayb since i didnt pay to see it hehe who knows

[cyke93]

People weren't exactly happy with the early AICN script review of Fantastic Four either, and yet... that movie stayed the same aside from like two changes (Van Damme = Von Doom), too!

Just goes to show... they dont' really give a damn what we want. They believe they know best.

well you think they would've learned their lesson after that


no offense darknessofdeath, but i hate your avi !!! hehe :P

[gambitfire]

i wasnt a FF fan, i know of them growing up and i maybe watched some cartoons and i know a little bit about each character but i never followed them. i dint watch it in theatres and i heard all this bad stuff about it. i watched recently on dvd and i thought it was good, not mind blowingly great but not bad. jessica alba (i think shes gorgous but not a good actress) was not that bad. .. but mayb since i didnt pay to see it hehe who knows

i was impressed with Jessica's acting i thought she did good.

[ginny_weasley]

i was impressed with Jessica's acting i thought she did good.

Seconded. I don't know why so many folks disliked her performance. The only problem, I though, was she seemed to young for the role - her acting was fine though. :up:

[cyke93]

i was impressed with Jessica's acting i thought she did good.

i take it you never saw "Honey" the only way i got through that was by putting the TV on mute. but she was good in FF4

[gap5ewl]

:rolleyes:

what was the question?

I was comparing Marsden's obvious enthusiasm for playing Cyclops to Berry's annoyance of having to don that horrible silver cape for her part in Storm. Sure her complaints in the media might have been a ploy to work up a new contract (Oscar statuette anyone?), but isn't it a bit hypocritical for fans to blame Marsden when Halle was doing the exact same thing.

Sorry wrong answer. (Hey i can come up with random catch phrases too.)
Well first you used the typical Halle said she was reduced to a comic book character excuse which was taking out of context. And Marsden and Halle are not doing the same thing. Marsden was giving the smaller role due to his other commitment with Superman. Halle didnt have another project going on while making x3 and was way more underused than Cyclops was in the first two. So it just seemed right to give her a bigger role. Im just as pissed as you are for Cyclops' small role and I really wish he could've had a much bigger one. But seriously you really dont hide the fact that you are not a Halle fan and you feel its her fault. Get over it dude (geez another catch phrase? wow)

[Bishop2]

Fantastic Four is actually one of my favorite comics, more than X-Men or Daredevil, certainly my favorite Marvel comic. I was pretty disappointed with how they messed it up, especially Doom, who is supposed to be one of the greatest villians in comics and was reduced to a goofy tool. However, the casting of the main four was great, as was their relationsihps to one another. So it wasn't a total loss. And I think if the deleted scenes that you can see photos of in the "Making of" book were reinserted, it would actually elevate into truly "good movie" status, so I look forward to an eventual "director's cut" or "special edition" or whatever. Plus it's not too late for the sequels to fix most of the problems. It's not like they demolecularized Reed. :p

[gambitfire]

i take it you never saw "Honey" the only way i got through that was by putting the TV on mute. but she was good in FF4

yes i did but she was too hot for me to hold that against her :D besides SinCity came out before FF so i was hype my friend oh i was hyped :p

[Bishop2]

Seconded. I don't know why so many folks disliked her performance. The only problem, I though, was she seemed to young for the role - her acting was fine though. :up:

I thought she was a good choice when I finally saw her performance, I don't think she was too young either since Reed is supposed to be 10 years older than Sue.

[cyke93]

well folks, im off to have some drinks with friends.. this whole cyclops thing has been very distracting hehe

[gambitfire]

well folks, im off to have some drinks with friends.. this whole cyclops thing has been very distracting hehe

lol ok laterz cyke

[ginny_weasley]

Reasons to Be Happy...Sorta....

Because I believe in seeing the good in this disaster, no matter how small...

1. Cyke was eliminated because he was a threat to be reckoned with

Let's face it: this film should have had Cyke at it's heart - I don't need to explain the details or reason: you folks know this already. If Cyke lived past Alkali Lake, there would be no way to prevent him from getting his due - and with the desire to place Wolverine front and center and expand on Storm - Cyke had to go, and go in a permanent fashion. He was so powerful an adversary to the will of Fox he had to be killed.

2. Cyke: Enough to fill two characters

Cyke's role and persona in the X3 story and X-men in general was (it seems) deemed great enough to beef up not one but two other characters (Storm and Wolverine) - not to mention the leading pair of characters Fox most favored. That says a lot about Cyke.

3. Cyke >>>Storm and Wolverine

Despite the attempt to graft Cyke onto Storm (as leader) and Wolverine (as lover/savior of Jean), neither Storm nor Logan can match Cyke in these roles. Storm can't save Xavier. Wolverine can't do much to redeem Jean either. They're still no match for Cyke.

4. A Special Place in Hell.....

Let's face it: the AICN leak was the will of the Comic-verse Powers That Be (or whatever deities oversee and protect the great comic stories and characters within them). These Powers knew that Cyke didn't deserve the shaft and gave any and all involved who had the resources and will to turn thing around the chance to do so and make all things right in the Comic-verse.

While these individuals failed to take this opportunity to do right by Cyke and the X-Men, I take comfort in the fact that the Powers That Be are very very angry and have a special place in hell for these people.

[N_z0]

Well first you used the typical Halle said she was reduced to a comic book character excuse which was taking out of context. And Marsden and Halle are not doing the same thing. Marsden was giving the smaller role due to his other commitment with Superman. Halle didnt have another project going on while making x3 and was way more underused than Cyclops was in the first two. So it just seemed right to give her a bigger role. Im just as pissed as you are for Cyclops' small role and I really wish he could've had a much bigger one. But seriously you really dont hide the fact that you are not a Halle fan and you feel its her fault. Get over it dude (geez another catch phrase? wow)

Oh trust me i used to be a big Movie Storm/Halle Berry defender way back in the X-men days. I was right there in the trenches. Ask the oldies here. I guess i saw the error of my ways. :p

Her performances in either one of the previous movies just doesn't warrant her getting a much larger/meatier role. Yes IMO.

[LastSunrise1981]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1047/62oi.jpg

You know, I know I said to let it go and accept certain things. But I can't help but shake my head when I see this picture and this scene. This particular moment has Cyclops name all over it, and it is he who needs to be in this scene. :( :( :down

Looks like I was wrong about him living. Oh well, least we tried and fought hard till the very end.

[TheWeatherMan]

that's why i say "prolly" im just assuming there. if there was another character (im not talking about the actor themselves) who helped with cyclops getting the shaft, it is wolverine, by far.

scott could've been so busy with jean and storm had to take up the mantel and logan would be there for support. storm and logan could've still carried the movie on their shoulders if they went this route, but yea.. we got this crap.

:up: I'm with you there!

[gap5ewl]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1047/62oi.jpg

You know, I know I said to let it go and accept certain things. But I can't help but shake my head when I see this picture and this scene. This particular moment has Cyclops name all over it, and it is he who needs to be in this scene. :( :( :down

Looks like I was wrong about him living. Oh well, least we tried and fought hard till the very end.
yeah you have no idea how right you are. really hurts me to see that pic

[TheWeatherMan]

Now that we've all seen what Tom Rothman looks like, you may recognize him. Perhaps he shops at your local market. Perhaps you have ridden the subway with him.

The important thing to remember is that if you are exposed to Tom Rothman, do not panic. Tackling him to the ground and then undoing your pants and peeing on him while screaming "CYCLOPS LIVES, MOTHER****ER!" is not socially acceptable behavior.

The polite comic fan will approach him calmly as such:

You: "Excuse me sir, are you Tom Rothman?"
Him: "Why yes, I am."
You: "I must say, in light of your treatment of Cyclops in the X-Men films, I have a great desire to pee all over you."

Just walk up to him and say...

"haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, but I don't want none of the above I wanna piss on you..." - Dave Chappelle Show (R. Kelly skit)

http://static17.youtube.com/vi/UmdS1qvtmsM/1.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmdS1qvtmsM&search=dave%20chappelle%20r.%20kelly)

Watch here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__5UsT3kFDo

[jusblaze21]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1047/62oi.jpg

You know, I know I said to let it go and accept certain things. But I can't help but shake my head when I see this picture and this scene. This particular moment has Cyclops name all over it, and it is he who needs to be in this scene. :( :( :down

Looks like I was wrong about him living. Oh well, least we tried and fought hard till the very end.

I agree, That is Just wrong.

[TheWeatherMan]

Reasons to Be Happy...Sorta....


3. Cyke >>>Storm and Wolverine

Despite the attempt to graft Cyke onto Storm (as leader) and Wolverine (as lover/savior of Jean), neither Storm nor Logan can match Cyke in these roles. Storm can't save Xavier. Wolverine can't do much to redeem Jean either. They're still no match for Cyke.



Hey, Xavier was in trouble in X2 (Magneto's prison) and Cyke got his tail handed to him by Deathstrike. So, I think we can omitt reason #3 on that basis. ;)

[ZombieONE]

Hey, Xavier was in trouble in X2 (Magneto's prison) and Cyke got his tail handed to him by Deathstrike. So, I think we can omitt reason #3 on that basis. ;)

hey i thought he was shot with something before they started fighting. plus, if he wanted im sure he could have blown her skin off her metal skeleton...cause he did blast her.

[ZombieONE]

anyways...to all those sad cyke fans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/63.jpg

[dlo6215]

anyways...to all those sad cyke fans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/63.jpg

thank you

[ginny_weasley]

Hey, Xavier was in trouble in X2 (Magneto's prison) and Cyke got his tail handed to him by Deathstrike. So, I think we can omitt reason #3 on that basis. ;)

hehe, ya know, I was afraid someone would point that one out, lol.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

First half of reason #3 - scratched! ---> "Cyke >>>Wolverine"

[ginny_weasley]

anyways...to all those sad cyke fans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/63.jpg

YEEEESSSSSSS! Best.Manip.Ever.

That is the way is should be - the universe is somewhat more aligned now. :up:

[Mar420x]

anyways...to all those sad cyke fans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/63.jpg

wow! thats the big pic ive seen so far 4 x3. 2 bad its not in it. hopefully its a deleted scene. peace.

[BMM]

Hey, Xavier was in trouble in X2 (Magneto's prison) and Cyke got his tail handed to him by Deathstrike. So, I think we can omitt reason #3 on that basis. ;)

Haha . . . true. Although Wolverine almost got his tail handed to him too.

[dlo6215]

Haha . . . true. Although Wolverine almost got his tail handed to him too.

yea its not like scott could heal himself, and if you say "well thats just another reason why wolverine is so much better", he also didnt happen to have a supply of boiling hot adamantium ready to inject her w/

[TheWeatherMan]

hey i thought he was shot with something before they started fighting. plus, if he wanted im sure he could have blown her skin off her metal skeleton...cause he did blast her.

He still failed...

I'm j/k I know he could have blown her away... it's the writing. And that is also the case for Storm & Wolverine not being able to save Xavier... and for Xavier not being able to save himself for that matter. He could have attacked Jean's mind or something.

[ZombieONE]

wasnt he shot with something before they fought...im pretty sure.

[TheWeatherMan]

Haha . . . true. Although Wolverine almost got his tail handed to him too.

He did get it handed to him... but he eventually gave it back lol

[ginny_weasley]

Cyke's f-up aside in X2....there's still the Special Hell waiting...that was my personal fav. ;)

[TheWeatherMan]

wasnt he shot with something before they fought...im pretty sure.

Yes he was... I think it was the stuff they were shooting the kids with in the mansion.

[Aptman]

Yes he was... I think it was the stuff they were shooting the kids with in the mansion.

I thought that didn't make it through his uniform though.

[ginny_weasley]

Does someone need go check on this issue of Cyke getting drugged?

I have the DVD here...but my studious room-mate will think I am bananas....

[Spider-jedi]

anyways...to all those sad cyke fans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/63.jpg

thank you so much i really needed to see something like this

[dlo6215]

i have the dvd on now. deathstrike shoots him (doesnt specify w/ what) and it then shows cyke from the shoulders up. it hits him lower (off camera, he looks down) and then he looks back up and blasts her. he blasts a security guy then punches 2 to the ground. then deathstrike leaps (breaking some kind of distance record) puts her feet against a wall w/ cykes head in between and kicks him silly

[Bishop2]

At the end of the day, Wolverine is still obsessing over a woman who outright rejected him TWICE in TWO MOVIES, just because he's had the hots for her since he first looked at her. This guy seriously needs to get laid, because he's got some serious problems. At least Cyke (A) won Jean's heart and (B) still has his balls by the time he checks out. :p