Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[CapBeerCino]

It's so way beyond disgusting that there isn't a word in the human vocabulary that can describe it.

The cover of Cyclops holding Phoenix's dead body is freaking iconic in the X-World, dammit!! :mad:

We are no longer in the x-world. We are at the Wolverine and his amazing friends world...

[peteapan]

We are no longer in the x-world. We are at the Wolverine and his amazing friends world...

friends? he barely knows em!

[CapBeerCino]

friends? he barely knows em!

True, I take it back...:p

Did anyone (other than Cyke93) send questions for James? (I talk a lot but I still didn't do it :O not sure I still can)

[Retroman]

The hate in the Cyclops thread is so bad it could be used as a weapon of mass descruction.:eek:

[peteapan]

[/CENTER]
*melts*:O the REAL dark Phoenix... :up: I love your sig!

cheers. gotta show love for what Cyke could be

[taintedFB]

Can someone put the footge of James answering questions online in downloadable format. I will be in line for the midnight showing when it airs, oh and I don't have cable anyway...LOL

[SCOTT&JEAN]

[/CENTER]
*melts*:O the REAL dark Phoenix... :up: I love your sig!
So do I.

[peteapan]

True, I take it back...:p

Did anyone (other than Cyke93) send questions for James? (I talk a lot but I still didn't do it :O not sure I still can)

me,me,me!

[CapBeerCino]

The hate in the Cyclops thread is so bad it could be used as a weapon of mass descruction.:eek:

There's more love (for cyclops) than hate. ;)

[taintedFB]

BTW, I can see them replacing the fire in the eyes with the black eyes signifying the difference between Jean (Good Phoenix) in X2 and Phoenix (Dark) in X3. However, the flames should still be present when she uses her powers. I think the screenings didn't show everything. I bet Fox is still tweeking stuff in post and editing as we speak.

X3 execs to editors: "MI3 was disappointing, Poseidon was disappointing, we can't risk it! Cut Jimmy's scenes back into the finale quick!"

[CapBeerCino]

me,me,me!

What did you ask him?

[PhePhe112]

Its real artwork from the movie.


are you ****ing kidding me??!????!?!?!?!?! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[peteapan]

BTW, I can see them replacing the fire in the eyes with the black eyes signifying the difference between Jean (Good Phoenix) in X2 and Phoenix (Dark) in X3. However, the flames should still be present when she uses her powers. I think the screenings didn't show everything. I bet Fox is still tweeking stuff in post and editing as we speak.

X3 execs to editors: "MI3 was disappointing, Poseidon was disappointing, we can't risk it! Cut Jimmy's scenes back into the finale quick!"

MI3 did what it did well. cool action, cool villain. thats what u got to have been expecting

[MsNatchios]

BTW, I can see them replacing the fire in the eyes with the black eyes signifying the difference between Jean (Good Phoenix) in X2 and Phoenix (Dark) in X3. However, the flames should still be present when she uses her powers. I think the screenings didn't show everything. I bet Fox is still tweeking stuff in post and editing as we speak.

X3 execs to editors: "MI3 was disappointing, Poseidon was disappointing, we can't risk it! Cut Jimmy's scenes back into the finale quick!"
Pffft! Like they even let him back on the set after the Lake scene! :o

[xwolverine2]

The hate in the Cyclops thread is so bad it could be used as a weapon of mass descruction.:eek:
i dont know why its even open:confused:

[MsNatchios]

MI3 did what it did well. cool action, cool villain. thats what u got to have been expecting
I expected it to be less, I dunno, Alias.

[MsNatchios]

i dont know why its even open:confused:
But you can't look away, can you? It's like a car wreck on the side of the highway.

[taintedFB]

Generally speaking MI3 made less than MI2 despite higher ticket price and came in about 10 million below studio expectations opening weekend. It was good, but JJ made it feel alot like ALIAS.

Anyway, I'm holding out hope for Cyclops. IF NOTHING ELSE, he should be the one to wake up in the hospital at the end, NOT Xavier. If execs really think people will be cheering for Xavier when Scott died the way he did, they are delusional..

[Aiden]

But you can't look away, can you? It's like a car wreck on the side of the highway.Like Cyclops role in X3 :(

[peteapan]

What did you ask him?

are you aware of the massive hype around your character in this film, especially on the internet forums

How do you feel personally about cyclops role in this trilogy

[MsNatchios]

Generally speaking MI3 made less than MI2 despite higher ticket price and came in about 10 million below studio expectations opening weekend. It was good, but JJ made it feel alot like ALIAS.

Anyway, I'm holding out hope for Cyclops. IF NOTHING ELSE, he should be the one to wake up in the hospital at the end, NOT Xavier. If execs really think people will be cheering for Xavier when Scott died the way he did, they are delusional..
It was sooo Alias down to the double-crossing in the agency, to the comic-relief engineer, to the music and the filming style.

It this point, Cyclops waking up in the end is totally not gonna cut it. That would be a freaking cop-out as far as I'm concerned.

[CapBeerCino]

are you aware of the massive hype around your character in this film, especially on the internet forums

How do you feel personally about cyclops role in this trilogy

Damn you beat me to it :p Maybe I'll ask Hugh about the dynamics between Scott and Logan in x-3 :confused: Or Famke?

[taintedFB]

But at least it would give us hope for an X4.

[taintedFB]

Ask Iceman about his interaction with Cyclops. They've never even spoken to each other.

In fact Cyclops has had no interaction with Rogue, Iceman, Pyro, or anyone outside of Jean, Xavier and Storm. Bummer.

Maybe he has a LOT more scenes before Alkali Lake. Who knows?

[peteapan]

ah i didnt even see one episode of Alias so i guess i wasnt effected

[peteapan]

And a tiny bit with nightcrawler

[MsNatchios]

ah i didnt even see one episode of Alias so i guess i wasnt effected
Seasons 1 & 2 kick ***! Rent, watch re-runs, hurry!

[CapBeerCino]

Ask Iceman about his interaction with Cyclops. They've never even spoken to each other.


That wouldn't go on air...

[peteapan]

That wouldn't go on air...

nor would me asking Fox to kiss my pale white butt, but it feels good to send it

[xwolverine2]

But you can't look away, can you? It's like a car wreck on the side of the highway.
LOL!!!

its funny because its true:D .......:O

[CapBeerCino]

nor would me asking Fox to kiss my pale white butt, but it feels good to send it

Lol... This thread is insane... :p

[cyke93]

Ask Iceman about his interaction with Cyclops. They've never even spoken to each other.

In fact Cyclops has had no interaction with Rogue, Iceman, Pyro, or anyone outside of Jean, Xavier and Storm. Bummer.

Maybe he has a LOT more scenes before Alkali Lake. Who knows?

nah he doesnt but good question about iceman. i just came up with three new ones, so everyone ask this:

to beast: as an original x-man in the comics, hank was very close to scott, warren, and bobby, will we see anything of that on screen?

to bobby: how cool (no pun intended hehe) was it having all 5 original x-men all together for one scene

to cyclops: cyclops and beast were very close in the comics, will we see any of this in the movie?

to cyclops: cyclops and warren were really close in the comics, considering they were both original x-men, will we see any of this on film?

to james: how was it working with ben foster?

to shawn: i know bobby is supposed to be the jokester in the comics, but
I hear james marsden is behind the camera, is this true for x3?


theres a million questions to ask, remember be nice, you want a chance for the question to be read on air and most importantly, direct all questions to cyclops, and if not to cyclops, refer that character back to cyclops hehe

[MsNatchios]

Lol... This thread is insane... :p
Are you the least bit surprised? It's been a damn roller-coaster ride for our Cyke lovin emotions. :down

[peteapan]

when will this come on tv?

[eXperiment]

Yeah, when?

[CapBeerCino]

May 25

[Cyclops-Lives]

Sorry for the big letters, but I want this to be read...

I feel that, after all the wants Fans have requested and gotten, that Cyclops living - and possibly leading - is one that FOX has not overlooked. There is beyond too much; the fans, the comics, everything - that says Cyclops needs to be the bring down of Phoenix as well as the X-men's leader. Now I know a huge amount of **** points to him getting killed off... but I don't think it's gonna happen. They listen to us, and they have. This movie has basically (almost) been confirmed to have not been finished when viewed by Press and Previews... This could just mean FX, Xavier's Monologue, etc... will be included later, but it could also be different in ways when we see this in the theatres! They want to surprise us! Penn and Kinberg know that we know more than we should, and IF this is something they're doing, keeping Cyke's fate, a REAL secret, then they will know not to spoil it for us. I'd advise looking at my 'On Reading Reviews' thread, as we have come up with TONS of support for my theory. Just have Hope!


Totally agree with you man. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[taintedFB]

I thought it was Thursday or Friday night May 25 OR 26? Don't remember which...

[CapBeerCino]

I thought it was Thursday or Friday night May 25 OR 26? Don't remember which...

25 http://www.scifi.com/inside/xmen3/

[Kurosawa]

He's a filthy animal that should be castrated and dumped at the south pole... during winter... *edit: and he has to be naked... and without food or water... and with an inhibitor collar around his neck so his powers don't work... and also they should poke his eyes out... and jab his eardrums with icepicks... infected icepicks... did I mention he should be castrated?
:p
:up: :up: :up: :up:

[CapBeerCino]

:up: :up: :up: :up:

And then we wonder why people dread our thread :p

[Kurosawa]

And then we wonder why people dread our thread :p

F 'em. We gots nothin else but out little thread, since our boy gets screwed over yet again in the movie.

[Balthus Dire]

Man how can some people say they actually think Cyke lives still?


He CLEARLY dies guys. It's time to accept it.

[CapBeerCino]

We gots nothin else but out little thread

Sad but true... I'd go crazy without this thread! there are a lot of people in general movies forums who hate Scott and wish him (and Storm if to be fair) dead. :confused: :(

[The Original Bamfer]

I would just like to see this place be an open space to discuss Cyke, and not how much Wolverine or FOX sucks. Some are so damn negative, and they ahven't even seen the movie! Argh! :mad:

[ginny_weasley]

F 'em. We gots nothin else but out little thread, since our boy gets screwed over yet again in the movie.

Kurosawa, I love your rage, I really do. Someone's gotta represent the burning anger in us all, and you do it with such fiery vengeance.

And it's always good to know there's another angry fan out there.

Don't let anyone put you down about it either. Keep it up. :up:

[Cyclops-Lives]

I refuse to accept it till I see it myself.

Totally agree with you man!:up: :up: :up:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I refuse to accept it till I see it myself.
Same here.

[Kurosawa]

Kurosawa, I love your rage, I really do. Someone's gotta represent the burning anger in us all, and you do it with such fiery vengeance.

And it's always good to know there's another angry fan out there.

Don't let anyone put you down about it either. Keep it up. :up:

Tyvm :)

Anger is something I'm pretty decent at :p

[CapBeerCino]

I would just like to see this place be an open space to discuss Cyke, and not how much Wolverine or FOX sucks. Some are so damn negative, and they ahven't even seen the movie! Argh! :mad:

It was until 5 days ago...

[The Original Bamfer]

Kurosawa, I love your rage, I really do. Someone's gotta represent the burning anger in us all, and you do it with such fiery vengeance.

And it's always good to know there's another angry fan out there.

Don't let anyone put you down about it either. Keep it up. :up:

On the contrary... I;m the Cyclops fan (a huge one) that represents the rational side and says that everyone needs to get over what they THINK will happen and try to enjoy this movie. Its ridiculous. Maybe I could understand all the crying and threats if you saw the movie - but this is just childish.

I respect everyone in this thread, but come on!

[ginny_weasley]

On the contrary... I;m the Cyclops fan (a huge one) that represents the rational side and says that everyone needs to get over what they THINK will happen and try to enjoy this movie. Its ridiculous. Maybe I could understand all the crying and threats if you saw the movie - but this is just childish.

I respect everyone in this thread, but come on!

O don't get me wrong, I really do want to enjoy this movie, regardless of what happens to Cyke, and I would LOVE for this all to be a big joke of Fox, and I want to see the better in things and certainly try to, and I like it when we talk positive about Cyke.

....But sometimes it's good to just cut lose and let all the buried rage. ;)

[CapBeerCino]

I respect everyone in this thread, but come on!

No you dont if you say we are childish. This is how I feel about Cyke dying in x-3. It has been confirmed and I dont neet to see the movie to know I wont like his death.
I wish you are right of course, but I dont believe it.

[Kurosawa]

On the contrary... I;m the Cyclops fan (a huge one) that represents the rational side and says that everyone needs to get over what they THINK will happen and try to enjoy this movie. Its ridiculous. Maybe I could understand all the crying and threats if you saw the movie - but this is just childish.

I respect everyone in this thread, but come on!

Nothing personal at all, but I think we know what will happen. I just don't buy into the last minute alternate ending idea.

[Cyclops-Lives]

O don't get me wrong, I really do want to enjoy this movie, regardless of what happens to Cyke, and I would LOVE for this all to be a big joke of Fox, and I want to see the better in things and certainly try to, and I like it when we talk positive about Cyke.

....But sometimes it's good to just cut lose and let all the buried rage. ;)



Same here.

[The Original Bamfer]

Nothing personal at all, but I think we know what will happen. I just don't buy into the last minute alternate ending idea.

Not a problem! :up:

[taintedFB]

Truth is, it appears that the previews still didn't have EVERYTHING (phoenix effect, etc...).

We really won't know until the film is officially released. I still think if Scott DOESN'T die on camera, it means something... he's assumed dead... but its never certain... so I still think there's a reasoning behind it NOT being shown.

[ShadowBoxing]

Truth is, it appears that the previews still didn't have EVERYTHING (phoenix effect, etc...).

We really won't know until the film is officially released. I still think if Scott DOESN'T die on camera, it means something... he's assumed dead... but its never certain... so I still think there's a reasoning behind it NOT being shown.Oh I bet he dies off camera. Ratner, Kinberg and Penn are not a complete morons, neither is Rothman. They want money, and I am betting with the backlash they would have invested in some "insurance policy" to say the least. If people start aching for a bigger role for Cyclops amongst the fan community (who by the way create the initial drive for these films) then they'd want the opportunity to make money off of that.

[TromaFreak64]

I can understand that....especially since they ARE showing Xavier.

[LastSunrise1981]

Is Kurosawa the Cyclops of the Cyclops thread? :eek: ;) :p

[ginny_weasley]

So here's looking at the bright side...

Looking at old Cyke pics....and I have to give him credit: there ain't many people who could carry off those bad-arse shades with those dorky clothes (like the pants in this getup):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg

but our man: he does it quite nicely :up:

[CapBeerCino]

Is Kurosawa the Cyclops of the Cyclops thread? :eek: ;) :p

Im confused...

[PhePhe112]

I still have an ounce of faith left. I will have this ounce until May 26th @ 8:00pm (thats around the time the movie will be over since I will have to see it after work).

:cyclops:

[TromaFreak64]

I just watched that new interview with Jackman and they talk about how much closer they stayed to the source material this time, and his love for Jean...makes me so mad.

[Kurosawa]

Is Kurosawa the Cyclops of the Cyclops thread? :eek: ;) :p

???

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Im confused...
So am I.

[LastSunrise1981]

Perhaps I should've elaborated on my comment towards Kurosawa.

What I was saying is since Kurosawa is standing firm in his belief and apparently everything is pretty obvious now, is he becoming the field leader of the Cyclops thread and leading fans to make the final stand against Fox? ;)

I mean think about it. You have X-Men fans on one side and have the evil brotherhood mutants known as Fox led by Rothman, and Kurosawa can lead us into battle. ;) :p

[ginny_weasley]

I just watched that new interview with Jackman and they talk about how much closer they stayed to the source material this time, and his love for Jean...makes me so mad.

Which interview?

[LastSunrise1981]

I just watched that new interview with Jackman and they talk about how much closer they stayed to the source material this time, and his love for Jean...makes me so mad.

Should've said stayed closer to the source material EXCEPT the Phoenix Saga. :mad: :down

[PhePhe112]

Should've said stayed closer to the source material EXCEPT the Phoenix Saga. :mad: :down


no kidding, they are so DUMB!!!!

[TromaFreak64]

Which interview?

This one....

http://iesb.net/fox2006/051506.php

There is a written one and a video--its in the video.

[Kurosawa]

Perhaps I should've elaborated on my comment towards Kurosawa.

What I was saying is since Kurosawa is standing firm in his belief and apparently everything is pretty obvious now, is he becoming the field leader of the Cyclops thread and leading fans to make the final stand against Fox? ;)

I mean think about it. You have X-Men fans on one side and have the evil brotherhood mutants known as Fox led by Rothman, and Kurosawa can lead us into battle. ;) :p

That's a hell of a compliment, although I just consider myself one voice of many. But thanks very much regardless.

[Kurosawa]

Should've said stayed closer to the source material EXCEPT the Phoenix Saga. :mad: :down

The Phoenix Saga deserves it's own set of films. Because a big part of what makes her turn to Dark Phoenix so tragic was that as Phoenix, Jean was the greatest heroine the Marvel Universe had ever known.

[mustanger405]

Scott.....Summers......getting the shaft :(

[mustanger405]

edit....

[mustanger405]

Ginny I greatly appreciate you putting my petition in your posts....Its ppl like you that could help us really relay to fox how pissed we are and ofourse kurosawa has greatly contirbuted to our own last stand among the cyke fans.....and that goes for anyone....dont hesitate to put the petition in your posts. I will be sending it to Fox once I have enough signatures and we got plenty of time....I really cant believe hugh jackman making that bullshi* quote about Cyke saying he doesnt recede into the bacround at all. Saying its very logical where hes at in the beginning and for where he goes in the story well fans will have to wait and see. Well where he goes straight to the grave Logan after 25 min in and isnt even properly mourned...and they bring back Xavier instead of Cyclops at the end. How utterly pointless is that. I mean they could of at least gave us a scene of Cyke at the end of the credits in the hospital or at Alkali lake anything for us devoted fans who feel his character has been heavily misused in the series. But no we have dumb quotes from Hugh Jackman and a secret scene with the rebirth of the professor.....and storm takes leadership. My god can it get any worse. we must not let this happen in the next movie and it will be made u watch since this movie will rack in the cash.

[cyke93]

whoa.. no further bad news.. please tell me we finally hit rock bottom hehehe

[gambitfire]

whoa.. no further bad news.. please tell me we finally hit rock bottom hehehe

ROCK BOTTOM!!! no we as Cyclops fans discovered that there is more under that rock and decended further and that's where all Cyclops fans are at right now :( :p :(

[LastSunrise1981]

The Phoenix Saga deserves it's own set of films. Because a big part of what makes her turn to Dark Phoenix so tragic was that as Phoenix, Jean was the greatest heroine the Marvel Universe had ever known.

That's what Singer was going to do with X3. But we all saw and know how that turned out unfortunately. :(

I'm beginning to wonder why Simon introduced the cure storyline? Then again, if they were to adapt the whole Phoenix saga and make into a two hour flick, the vomit inside of me couldn't rest if I had to see Logan for two hours trying to save Jean. :(

I have a feeling the movie will be great(in my opinion). But from time to time when I watch the scene with Magneto, in my mind I'm picturing Cyclops saying what Logan is saying.

When does Marvel get the rights for X-Men back? I want them to restart X3 and do it right from the beginning.

[dlo6215]

When does Marvel get the rights for X-Men back? I want them to restart X3 and do it right from the beginning.

im not sure i understand. marval sold the rights to fox for a period of time? i apologize for my ignorance

[martinbluther]

im not sure i understand. marval sold the rights to fox for a period of time? i apologize for my ignorance

Glad you asked. I don't understand either...

[cyke93]

ROCK BOTTOM!!! no we as Cyclops fans discovered that there is more under that rock and decended further and that's where all Cyclops fans are at right now :( :p :(

hehe so true, so true

[cyke93]

That's what Singer was going to do with X3. But we all saw and know how that turned out unfortunately. :(

I'm beginning to wonder why Simon introduced the cure storyline? Then again, if they were to adapt the whole Phoenix saga and make into a two hour flick, the vomit inside of me couldn't rest if I had to see Logan for two hours trying to save Jean. :(

I have a feeling the movie will be great(in my opinion). But from time to time when I watch the scene with Magneto, in my mind I'm picturing Cyclops saying what Logan is saying.

When does Marvel get the rights for X-Men back? I want them to restart X3 and do it right from the beginning.


if cyclops fans could magically think that everything wolverine does after alkali lake is cyclops, then i think we'd enjoy the film hahahaha

[LastSunrise1981]

if cyclops fans could magically think that everything wolverine does after alkali lake is cyclops, then i think we'd enjoy the film hahahaha

Fair enough. :)

It still doesn't make the fans feel any better though. :down :(

[Eros]

fox own them ovie right to X-men for a long time, just like sony has the movie rights to spiderman for a long time. Beisdes you can't "restart" the x-men movies, thats a rather dumb idea.

[Eros]

fox own the m ovie right to X-men for a long time, just like sony has the movie rights to spiderman for a long time. Beisdes you can't "restart" the x-men movies, thats a rather dumb idea.

[mustanger405]

I just saw an interview with Hugh Jackman......and he talked about how he loves Wolverine and feels the 3 movies didnt do justice to his character and that a movie should be made based on soley his character so fans fully appreciate Logan and understand him like Mad Max. Also he discusses the strong love between Logan and Jean. Then he goes on to talk about how something shakes the team up early in the film....and he must stand up to the plate to take action.....Scott's death. Who ever gave Hugh the right to think he the the ultimate center of the fuc*ing xmen universe. I hope his movie fails miserably.

[WorthyStevens]

fox own the m ovie right to X-men for a long time, just like sony has the movie rights to spiderman for a long time. Beisdes you can't "restart" the x-men movies, thats a rather dumb idea.

Just like you can't "restart" the Batman movies?

Restarting X-Men could be a great idea.

[dlo6215]

fox own them ovie right to X-men for a long time, just like sony has the movie rights to spiderman for a long time. Beisdes you can't "restart" the x-men movies, thats a rather dumb idea.

so any movies made in the relatively near future will be made by fox and not marvel? any possibility theres a clause that says if fox craps on the best comic storyline ever then they lose the rights?

[terry78]

You really can't respect a hero that steals another man's woman.

[dlo6215]

I just saw an interview with Hugh Jackman......and he talked about how he loves Wolverine and feels the 3 movies didnt do justice to his character and that a movie should be made based on soley his character so fans fully appreciate Logan and understand him like Mad Max. Also he discusses the strong love between Logan and Jean. Then he goes on to talk about how something shakes the team up early in the film....and he must stand up to the plate to take action.....Scott's death. Who ever gave Hugh the right to think he the the ultimate center of the fuc*ing xmen universe. I hope his movie fails miserably.

as a cyclops fan i never actually hated wolverine/jackman....i do now

[gambitfire]

Just like you can't "restart" the Batman movies?

Restarting X-Men could be a great idea.

lol thats what i was thinking and yea X-men pre Wolverine would be wonderful. explain how the other members came to be.

[gambitfire]

You really can't respect a hero that steals another man's woman.

Not a Hero who steals another Hero's woman.

[fallenAngel]

lol thats what i was thinking and yea X-men pre Wolverine would be wonderful. explain how the other members came to be.

Yeah, that's the only way I can see Cyke getting a good role. If it's a prequel to the first X men. Which could be cool, might need a recast though. But I really really doubt that will happen.

And in an interview on IGN about Wolverines utterly pointless spin off, Jackman says he doesn't think there will be an X men 4.

Sigh.

[TromaFreak64]

Glad you asked. I don't understand either...

They have an agreement where they license the characters....so they don't SELL their characters off...the rights revert back to Marvel only if another film is not contracted during a given period of time...or after a specified date whichever comes first. So from what a gather its still awhile.

[gambitfire]

Yeah, that's the only way I can see Cyke getting a good role. If it's a prequel to the first X men. Which could be cool, might need a recast though. But I really really doubt that will happen.

And in an interview on IGN about Wolverines utterly pointless spin off, Jackman says he doesn't think there will be an X men 4.

Sigh.

yet he get's another movie where he can "FULLY DEVELOP HIS CHARACTER" ARGH!!

seriously i use to think he was a great guy but it starting to seem like an act even he should now better.

[hulkamania85]

I just saw an interview with Hugh Jackman......and he talked about how he loves Wolverine and feels the 3 movies didnt do justice to his character and that a movie should be made based on soley his character so fans fully appreciate Logan and understand him like Mad Max. Also he discusses the strong love between Logan and Jean. Then he goes on to talk about how something shakes the team up early in the film....and he must stand up to the plate to take action.....Scott's death. Who ever gave Hugh the right to think he the the ultimate center of the fuc*ing xmen universe. I hope his movie fails miserably.

Maybe the way X-Men has been written/promoted the last few years?

Like in Ultimate X-Men the covers of the first six trades were all Wolverine. Wolverine is in every X-book.

I don't like it but that's the way Marvel has pushed him.

[The Lumberjack]

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You Lose.

[TromaFreak64]

Has anyone ever seen the comic in Toy Fare where it shows a day in the life of Wolverine.....

And Wolverine basically has to go everywhere and be everywhere...like the X-men, solo, Avengers, etc. battle Sabertooth....both them have to stop to try and read to find their background story or connections....its great stuff really and definetely relevant to this film and Cyclops deminished role.

[gambitfire]

Lumberjack, dude you sure do have a lot of free time to try to bug ppl :rolleyes:

[TromaFreak64]

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You Lose. I dont get it?

[Eros]

Gambitfire, considering Jackaman [a man you have never met] is simply answer questions about his charater and role in X:3, your new dislike for him is idiotic beyond words. Meet the guy first, and please dun start hateing people based on an interview where all he does is promote the bloody film.

[TromaFreak64]

Eros why are you here again?

[gambitfire]

Gambitfire, considering Jackaman [a man you have never met] is simply answer questions about his charater and role in X:3, your new dislike for him is idiotic beyond words. Meet the guy first, and please dun start hateing people based on an interview where all he does is promote the bloody film.

i think i have a right dislike whoever i want to dislike and yea it may be idiotic to dislike him when i don't know him but i sure as hell can definetley dislike everything he's saying.

[gambitfire]

Eros why are you here again?

he loves to start things apparantley its easier to just stay away and let us complain or do w/e all we want but he just has to come in here and start something.

[Eros]

tromafreak because i like cyclops and am a huge X-man fan. I try and seperate fiction from real world. I undertsand its all fake, and i have to take care of real things. Hence why i dun care who dies in the films, i just what to see how it all plays out.

[TromaFreak64]

I noticed....

[Spidey 2007]

Has anyone ever seen the comic in Toy Fare where it shows a day in the life of Wolverine.....

And Wolverine basically has to go everywhere and be everywhere...like the X-men, solo, Avengers, etc. battle Sabertooth....both them have to stop to try and read to find their background story or connections....its great stuff really and definetely relevant to this film and Cyclops deminished role.


lmao, yea, in his To-do schedule it said something liek "do phoenix" .... made me crack up.. lol

[TromaFreak64]

While I may not be hardcore against Cyclops death like many are, as much as I'd like him to live, I have my feelings I'll enjoy his death as well....as sick as that sounds....but still I don't start fights constantly....

[Jessie]

Hey guys, this is my first time posting and I just wanted it to be known that I am amazed at the amount of attention the Cyclops issue is getting. This makes me sooo freakin happy. I am obssessed with the character and I'm truely upset at how things are playing out. However, with all that said I am still looking forward to the movie and only slightly bitter about Cyclop's outcome. He didn't get the attention he deserved in the other two films and his character doesn't deserve this fate. It sucks, but **** happens. Again, you guys rock for showing your extreme support.

p.s. Is there really still hope that the movie might play out differently than everyone says? I'll take any grasps of hope....

[TromaFreak64]

lmao, yea, in his To-do schedule it said something liek "do phoenix" .... made me crack up.. lol

I need to dig that out and scan it...it would lighten this board up a lot.

[gambitfire]

romafreak because ilike cyclops and am a huge X-man fan. I try and seperate fiction from real world. I undertsand its all fake, and i have to take care of real things. Hence why i dun care who dies in the films, i just what to see how it all plays out.


yes its fake so what? i think after 40 years of devoted fans things deserve to be done right these movies don't come along everyday.

[TromaFreak64]

Hey guys, this is my first time posting and I just wanted it to be known that I am amazed at the amount of attention the Cyclops issue is getting. This makes me sooo freakin happy. I am obssessed with the character and I'm truely upset at how things are playing out. However, with all that said I am still looking forward to the movie and only slightly bitter about Cyclop's outcome. He didn't get the attention he deserved in the other two films and his character doesn't deserve this fate. It sucks, but **** happens. Again, you guys rock for showing your extreme support.

p.s. Is there really still hope that the movie might play out differently than everyone says? I'll take any grasps of hope....

Hope...it's impossible to tell, but this is the Cyclops board...here we respect everyone's opinion except olenuckleheads....:)

[gambitfire]

Hey guys, this is my first time posting and I just wanted it to be known that I am amazed at the amount of attention the Cyclops issue is getting. This makes me sooo freakin happy. I am obssessed with the character and I'm truely upset at how things are playing out. However, with all that said I am still looking forward to the movie and only slightly bitter about Cyclop's outcome. He didn't get the attention he deserved in the other two films and his character doesn't deserve this fate. It sucks, but **** happens. Again, you guys rock for showing your extreme support.

p.s. Is there really still hope that the movie might play out differently than everyone says? I'll take any grasps of hope....

See eros for some of us this is our passion and no that's not sad we have our lives but even you know we have to have something we enjoy and love that isn't just a person.

[gambitfire]

Hope...it's impossible to tell, but this is the Cyclops board...here we respect everyone's opinion except olenuckleheads....:)

lol only if he comes in here bashing non-senses after all i said i would maturly debate him which btw im still waiting for a response :confused:

oh well lol :D

[WorthyStevens]

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You Lose.

I lost what, exactly? :o

[TromaFreak64]

Oh I found that Toyfare with Wolverine...but boy is it more pages than I remembered.....oh well better get to scanning

[Eros]

gambitfire, i get you want things to be "done right" but dun loose sleep over it. Just go with the flow, and if you truly are and X-man fan you will except it.

[TromaFreak64]

Or the scanner can be difficult

[WorthyStevens]

gambitfire, i get you want things to be "done right" but dun loose sleep over it. Just go with the flow, and if you truly are and X-man fan you will except it.

Accept Cyke being screwed over? No thank you.

[Eros]

well the creator of X-men has no problems with it, hence i dun see why you guys would make such a big deal of it.

[Jessie]

Thats not the point Eros. The fact is, the movie just screwed everything up. I'm sure no one is loosing sleep over it (well maybe me at the moment, I really should get some shut eye) but this comic has been out for a good long while now, and it has build a fanbase and said fans have these certain expectation to see play out on film...and really the movie doesn't do it justice, at all. It's a disgrace (it terms of cyclops).



fox is evil

[WorthyStevens]

well the creator of X-men has no problems with it, hence i dun see why you guys would make such a big deal of it.

Oh gee, well if Stan Lee doesn't have a problem with it, by all means it must be problem-free...

[Kurosawa]

I just saw an interview with Hugh Jackman......and he talked about how he loves Wolverine and feels the 3 movies didnt do justice to his character and that a movie should be made based on soley his character so fans fully appreciate Logan and understand him like Mad Max. Also he discusses the strong love between Logan and Jean. Then he goes on to talk about how something shakes the team up early in the film....and he must stand up to the plate to take action.....Scott's death. Who ever gave Hugh the right to think he the the ultimate center of the fuc*ing xmen universe. I hope his movie fails miserably.

He can stick his little character up his ass as far as I'm concerned.

[gambitfire]

gambitfire, i get you want things to be "done right" but dun loose sleep over it. Just go with the flow, and if you truly are and X-man fan you will except it.

i probably would but this i can't because even you can't deny who is obviously taking up all screen time its 2 characters i don't hate storm but i want to see the X-MEN not just Wolverine and Storm. Im not loosing any sleep, Besides i don't sleep i have a problem with that (actual problem).

[Kurosawa]

well the creator of X-men has no problems with it, hence i dun see why you guys would make such a big deal of it.

Stan only cares about money.

[gambitfire]

well the creator of X-men has no problems with it, hence i dun see why you guys would make such a big deal of it.

OMG have you met Stan Lee he's like the friendliest GUY EVER of course he's not going to step in a bitc# about it he's to wholesome for that.

[gambitfire]

Stan only cares about money.

:eek: SHAME ON YOU HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT STANLEY :mad:

[Obsidian]

:eek: SHAME ON YOU HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT STANLEY :mad:

why else would he make "Striperella"?:confused:

[gambitfire]

why else would he make "Striperella"?:confused:

cheap shot :p

[TromaFreak64]

OMG have you met Stan Lee he's like the friendliest GUY EVER of course he's not going to step in a bitc# about it he's to wholesome for that.

Stan Lee is generally so non-confrontational....same with Clearmount....I am sure they were like check out what we are doing to your characters...and both of em where just like okay well what do we do?.....

[gambitfire]

Stan Lee is generally so non-confrontational....same with Clearmount....I am sure they were like check out what we are doing to your characters...and both of em where just like okay well what do we do?.....

i know right the worst they did was look at each other like did you write that? No i didn't i thought you did? nope wasn't me. So is this right? i don't think so? i think it was one of the new guys. Must have been. :D

[jusblaze21]

I just saw an interview with Hugh Jackman......and he talked about how he loves Wolverine and feels the 3 movies didnt do justice to his character and that a movie should be made based on soley his character so fans fully appreciate Logan and understand him like Mad Max. Also he discusses the strong love between Logan and Jean. Then he goes on to talk about how something shakes the team up early in the film....and he must stand up to the plate to take action.....Scott's death. Who ever gave Hugh the right to think he the the ultimate center of the fuc*ing xmen universe. I hope his movie fails miserably.

Did'nt do justice:confused: . I hope somebody told Hugh to say that and I hope he really does'nt believe that.:confused:

[Hulkster]

I hope that the Wolverine spinoff movie fail.

[Kurosawa]

I'll do what I can to help it fail.

[Hulkster]

Thanks man.

[cyke93]

Oh gee, well if Stan Lee doesn't have a problem with it, by all means it must be problem-free...

haha .. thats something i would've said lol..

i leave for an hour n this place already moves 2 pages, my god. anyways, just to back comment about marvel selling rights to fox. i said this last night and it just sums up everything about this whole thing with cyclops, keeping in mind his 40 year history, team leader, role in the phoenix saga, and as an original x-men in an x-movie with all 5 original x-men:

i knew marvel sold fox the movie rights, i didn't know their souls were part of the deal.

[Kurosawa]

haha .. thats something i would've said lol..

i leave for an hour n this place already moves 2 pages, my god. anyways, just to back comment about marvel selling rights to fox. i said this last night and it just sums up everything about this whole thing with cyclops, keeping in mind his 40 year history, team leader, role in the phoenix saga, and as an original x-men in an x-movie with all 5 original x-men:

i knew marvel sold fox the movie rights, i didn't know their souls were part of the deal.

Marvel hasn't had a soul for years now.

[gambitfire]

Marvel hasn't had a soul for years now.

lol dude your not a very happy person i find that ironic when i look at your avy :D

[fallenAngel]

I hope that the Wolverine spinoff movie fail.

It's the only way that Fox might understand that people go to these X men movies for other characters.

[Kurosawa]

lol dude your not a very happy person i find that ironic when i look at your avy :D

Actually, I'm pretty happy overall. I've got a great marriage and a great wife. My family is real close. My job could be better but that's 99% of people's situation I'm sure. Coming on here is just a nice way to relieve stress.

[gambitfire]

Actually, I'm pretty happy overall. I've got a great marriage and a great wife. My family is real close. My job could be better but that's 99% of people's situation I'm sure. Coming on here is just a nice way to relieve stress.

i feelya sometimes its just nice to go at it with some ppl :p :D

[LastSunrise1981]

Actually, I'm pretty happy overall. I've got a great marriage and a great wife. My family is real close. My job could be better but that's 99% of people's situation I'm sure. Coming on here is just a nice way to relieve stress.

I nominate Kurosawa as the leader of the Cyclops thread against the Brotherhood Fox. :) :up:

Cyclops Fans: The Last Stand

Cool title eh?

[DRob]

U know what it shames me after reading tnhe comics for years and watching the animated series it puts a deep pain in my heart to see one of the great complex, honorable, and enduring characters of the Marvel Universe being put down and shut out in all 3 films without getting a chance to shine the appropriate way.

I don't speak for all of the dedicated fans of this truly amazing character but all in all I hope thats what we all feel.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

U know what it shames me after reading tnhe comics for years and watching the animated series it puts a deep pain in my heart to see one of the great complex, honorable, and enduring characters of the Marvel Universe being put down and shut out in all 3 films without getting a chance to shine the appropriate way.

I don't speak for all of the dedicated fans of this truly amazing character but all in all I hope thats what we all feel.

Well in all honesty, I don't feel that Cyclops was shafted in the 1st 2 movies.

In X-Men, he was displayed very well as a leader. And he had some pretty good characterization as well. Behind the obvious main characters of Wolverine, Rogue, Xavier, and Magneto, Cyclops had a very important role in the film.

In X2, he was out for a long portion of the movie, but it was also part of the villian's plan to take out the leadership of the X-Men. He did just that by taking out Xavier and Cyclops.

When Cyclops did return, his presence was very strong. As soon as he got back with the team, he was barking out orders. His first response when Storm asked Nightcrawler to teleport her in Cerebro "Wait! Who is this guy?!" and as soon as they got back in the X-Jet, it was Cyclops, not Storm, barking out all the orders.

And he was TOTALLY in character during Jean Grey's sacrifice.

I feel that Cyclops has been portrayed very well actually in both movies. And what we've seen of him in this movie seems to be very good too. Except for the whole demolecularization bit, which is a total insult to a great character. And if it weren't for that, he'd really shine in this movie. He had so much potential to truly shine in this movie. In fact, everything that was laid out for us over the course of the first 2 movies foreshadowed him truly shining in this one.

Unfortunatley, we have 2 <insert derogatory term here that I don't want to use quite yet because I haven't seen the finished product> who have this "Tee Hee!! Clever idea for working around James Marsden's limited schedule!" and don't have enough <insert your body part of choice here> capacity to change something that has caused an enormous amount of outrage, despite ample time to do so, and even more time than originally thought for the actor to film his role, because of certain "parameters" that were set for the character.

I'm sorry. I know politics should never mix with art, and can cause a very bad thing. But I refuse to believe that the Fox higher ups said "Let's kill Cyclops because the actor is on Superman Returns"... I would believe that they wanted to keep Wolverine in a spotlight role, but I refuse to believe they outright said "Kill Cyclops, he can't be a hero in his own story arc"

Maybe it's my ignorance towards the movie industry (and it very well could be) but should this bastardization actually take place (and I am now 98.5% sure it will), I chalk this one up to the writers. Not Ratner. Not Fox. And definatley not Singer. Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn. They were the ones writing this script long before Ratner came on board.

[JZ1]

Here is my way of making the leader of the x-men shine. Fox got it right the first time in the 90's. lol

Its not only how Cyclops is being portrayed but every x-men character not giving a chance to develop. Have people realised in x3 wolverine is an emo version of him? o well

Cyclops vs Sentinel (his intro and what would of been cool to see in a x-men movie.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui5Q4zrA_8

Cyclops vs Sinister (showing how fierce the x-men leader gets when you mess with his family.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJxJpRqqyo

Cyclops, Storm, and Wolverine vs Magneto (what we should of seen in x3.. the 3 taking on Magneto.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xCfhQs-Ccw

Gambit vs Wolverine vs Jubilee (not cyclops but its something gambit4life fans like me would of love to see in an x-men movie. but now im kinda glad they haven't ruined at least one x-men character.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngcfWu-uguk

[martinbluther]

Stan Lee is generally so non-confrontational....same with Clearmount....I am sure they were like check out what we are doing to your characters...and both of em where just like okay well what do we do?.....

Ditto...

[CapBeerCino]

Well in all honesty, I don't feel that Cyclops was shafted in the 1st 2 movies.

In X-Men, he was displayed very well as a leader. And he had some pretty good characterization as well. Behind the obvious main characters of Wolverine, Rogue, Xavier, and Magneto, Cyclops had a very important role in the film.

In X2, he was out for a long portion of the movie, but it was also part of the villian's plan to take out the leadership of the X-Men. He did just that by taking out Xavier and Cyclops.

When Cyclops did return, his presence was very strong. As soon as he got back with the team, he was barking out orders. His first response when Storm asked Nightcrawler to teleport her in Cerebro "Wait! Who is this guy?!" and as soon as they got back in the X-Jet, it was Cyclops, not Storm, barking out all the orders.

And he was TOTALLY in character during Jean Grey's sacrifice.



I never looked at x-2 that way :up: Great post!

[CapBeerCino]

I lost what, exactly? :o

A candlelight dinner with the Lumberjack :(


:p

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I never looked at x-2 that way :up: Great post!
I agree. Cyclops' role in x2 might have been small but it was good. He was the leader was he was there

[CapBeerCino]

:mad: From yet another review:

Jean Grey's Phoenix (Famke Janssen) whose previously repressed and unstoppable telekinetic and telepathic powers threaten to devastate humans, mutants and anything else in her path, unless Wolverine (Hugh Jackman), who has fallen in love with her, can somehow stop her.

Anyone who still thinks Cyclops is back?

Also-
That's not to say I didn't enjoy director Brett Ratner's showy, visual style, but emotionally, I felt a little like Anna Paquin's Rogue, unable to touch the characters I love...our emotions seem to be too gobsmacked by the action to be overly affected emotionally. There are too many characters doing too many things.

:(

[SCOTT&JEAN]

What? Where did that come from?

Ok, my day started in the worst way it could have...

[CapBeerCino]

What? Where did that come from?

Ok, my day started in the worst way it could have...

Sorry :(
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231876

[Trevor Goodchild]

Unfortunatley, we have 2 <insert derogatory term here that I don't want to use quite yet because I haven't seen the finished product> who have this "Tee Hee!! Clever idea for working around James Marsden's limited schedule!" and don't have enough <insert your body part of choice here> capacity to change something that has caused an enormous amount of outrage, despite ample time to do so, and even more time than originally thought for the actor to film his role, because of certain "parameters" that were set for the character.

I'm sorry. I know politics should never mix with art, and can cause a very bad thing. But I refuse to believe that the Fox higher ups said "Let's kill Cyclops because the actor is on Superman Returns"... I would believe that they wanted to keep Wolverine in a spotlight role, but I refuse to believe they outright said "Kill Cyclops, he can't be a hero in his own story arc"

Maybe it's my ignorance towards the movie industry (and it very well could be) but should this bastardization actually take place (and I am now 98.5% sure it will), I chalk this one up to the writers. Not Ratner. Not Fox. And definatley not Singer. Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn. They were the ones writing this script long before Ratner came on board.
I agree with the rest of your post even though I would’ve liked Cyclops to have at least one additional character developing scene in X2.
But, hey, who really dictates the ‘parameters’? Studios do of course.
Thanks for a buddy of mine at the Spidey forums for clearing something out for me I understood that writers aren’t given that much creativity freedom as we are led to believe. Everything is controlled by the studios, producers and directors. Things like continuity and faithfulness to the source material are the first to be sacrificed for the sake of budget and actor availability. At the end of it all, it’s just strictly business and politics as you thought yourself.
I suspect that, in terms of adaptations, movie makers are so proud to think that they are the peak of the source material’s reputation. While in reality it is always the other way around. With so many adaptations popping up these days I’m beginning to think Hollywood has a deficit of creativity and originality.

[The Batman]

Nell, thank you. with even the current events, people seem to refuse to blame the writers. its their fault just as much as its fox's

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Sorry :(
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231876
Why?

If it's Wolverine the one who saves/stops Phoenix in the end I would be way too pissed to enjoy the scene and the film. That's for sure. I mean how can they do that?

[Trevor Goodchild]

Nell, thank you. with even the current events, people seem to refuse to blame the writers. its their fault just as much as its fox's
No doubt, but who do you blame more - the usurper or the executioner?

[peteapan]

No doubt, but who do you blame more - the usurper or the executioner?

both. But the way he is to die REALLLLY makes me angry. He could have gone out in a battle after putting up some kind of fight or anything! anything but by a mistake by the woman he loves. seems so stupid

[The Batman]

No doubt, but who do you blame more - the usurper or the executioner?


Whatever the writers roles were.

[CapBeerCino]

anything but by a mistake by the woman he loves. seems so stupid

I wonder if she says "Oops" after demulec-whatever him...

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I wonder if she says "Oops" after demulec-whatever him...
lol that is going to be one the biggest mistakes that the have done in their careers.

[Celestial]

It would be interesting to know who originally suggested killing off Cyclops. I can imagine someone throwing it in as a joke and a studio exec thinking it would solve a lot of their problems.

[snowball_83]

I can't see why people are so bothered by him dieing. He was always a dull character in the comics and cartoon... and his film version was no exception.

[Tzigone]

I can't see why people are so bothered by him dieing. He was always a dull character in the comics and cartoon... and his film version was no exception.


Obviously, we don't all agree. I've always liked Scott and loved the Scott/Jean relationship.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Obviously, we don't all agree. I've always liked Scott and loved the Scott/Jean relationship.
Ditto.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Something came to my mind this morning after I woke up regarding Cykes and his powers.

In X2, we saw Jean deflect his blast back at him, but the question is, did he get hit by his own power and was then thrown back? I mean, he didn't seem he was hurt when he walked towards unconcious Jean. I know that his optic blast damaged the power dam (whatever u wanna call it), which caused the dam to erupt. In X1, Scott fired at Magneto. It knocked him down, yes, but it didn't kill him. In X3, in reviews I've read, we don't see Scott get blown up to bits on screen. When Jean takes off his glasses, she tries to control his optic blast and then after they kiss, Jean senses something is wrong and she loses control. This is what im thinking, perhaps the blast hit cykes and he fell back, falling unconcious. Jean, standing over him, can't believe what she has done, but she too falls unconcious (we see her body by the lake in the trailers).

Later, when Storm and Logan go to Alkali Lake, Logan sees cykes glasses floating but the question is, Where's his body? perhaps he did disappear into thin air, but why would Jean turn him into ashes? :( I mean we don't see it happen to him onscreen. Going back to X2, Scott was thrown back when Jean pushed his optic blast back at him (well most of it, as I said early in the first paragraph, caused the dam to erupt), maybe the same happens to him but this time, it hurts him?

I think it'll be too much for Jean to ... control his blasts and Demolecularize him at the same time...

I'm not holding on hope that Scott might live through X3, but this was something that came to my mind.

The question is...does Scott's power have any affect on himself, even though someone (Jean) deflected his blast at him?? We know it does affect on mutants in a way...but it didn't kill them.

anyway... what do u think?

[DarknessOfDeath]

also, the funeral scene we saw in the trailer, is for Xavier only or did I read that wrong?

[SCOTT&JEAN]

also, the funeral scene we saw in the trailer, is for Xavier only or did I read that wrong?
You didn't get it wrong. It's for Xavier

[DarknessOfDeath]

okay... thanx. I see no point for a tombstone for Scott when theres no body to be buried... I honestly... like to think that Scott fell unconcious after his own blast hit cause Jean lost control, thinking she could hold them off so she could look at his "beautiful eyes".

The thing what makes me wonder is, why don't we see his actual death happen on screen and then he's not even mentioned after that. -sighs-

[LEX]

Scott has to close his eyes in order to prevent the optic blasts from getting out. So, he is immune to his own power, is my guess.

I'm thinking it's not Scott's power that will kill him, it's Jean's. She also demolecularizes Xavier with her powers.

And controlling Scott's optic blasts and demolecularizing Scott at the same time would be too much for Jean to handle? I highly doubt that. You saw Jean's flashback, right? At that age, she could levitate every single car in her neighborhood. God knows how powerful she has become now that her mental blocks have been removed.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

I agree with you Lex.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well I was just saying hypathically... god i hate that word, it gets used too much.

Anyway, I've accepted Scott's fate a long time ago but I was just curious if his own powers had any affect on him...??

[LEX]

Well I was just saying hypathically... god i hate that word, it gets used too much.

Anyway, I've accepted Scott's fate a long time ago but I was just curious if his own powers had any affect on him...??
When he closes his eyes, his eyelids don't get all torn up, right? When Rogue touches herself, she doesn't absorb herself and killing her. I'm just saying that...I think the majority of mutants's powers don't affect their users.

[DarknessOfDeath]

what about when Jean ... throws it back at him in x2?

[SCOTT&JEAN]

what about when Jean ... throws it back at him in x2?
It's just that the force is so big what sends him flying back

[DarknessOfDeath]

It's just that the force is so big what sends him flying back

yeah... I figured as much. Well anyway. Carry on :)

[LEX]

what about when Jean ... throws it back at him in x2?
What about it? Scott's blasts are strong forces. Jean deflects the blast back at Scott and would you expect him to just stand there, tap-dancing, like nothing's happened? Of course, it's gonna knock him over.

[DarknessOfDeath]

thats not what I meant, Lex. I meant after it knocked him down, wouldn't he...get hurt in the process? I mean... it didn't seem so when we saw him walking towards unconcious Jean but Jean was hurt badly.

[CapBeerCino]

Another review... What do you guys think?

...Hugh Jackman has always been the standout in the “X” franchise, and it’s never been more obvious with what he’s given here that they are pretty much solely writing the film around him. The one thing that I will say about him is that outside of a quick comment by Jean in the film, there is nothing to do with his history that was such an integral part of “X2”, and that does feel like kind of a let down...Unfortunately though, as is the case with at least one of the acting parts in the 3 films to date, some are sorely underused, and this time out, the honor goes to Anna Paquin who gets a grand total of maybe 10 minutes onscreen...There are some very good (and very surprising) twists that happen during the course of the film that really give it a great sense of forward momentum...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8840267&postcount=50

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Another review... What do you guys think?



http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8840267&postcount=50
I think I like the surprising part.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

thats not what I meant, Lex. I meant after it knocked him down, wouldn't he...get hurt in the process? I mean... it didn't seem so when we saw him walking towards unconcious Jean but Jean was hurt badly.
Jean hurted her anckle. Nothing more than that. And the wall seemed to be closer to her than Cyclops.

[LEX]

Cyclops, Angel and Rogue come to save the day in the final battle!

[peteapan]

I can't see why people are so bothered by him dieing. He was always a dull character in the comics and cartoon... and his film version was no exception.

why come to a cyke thread and say that?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Jean hurted her anckle. Nothing more than that. And the wall seemed to be closer to her than Cyclops.

lol

Does cyclops ever get hurt!?! :p :rolleyes:

I wanted to kick his ass for Jean's ankle. :mad:

[SCOTT&JEAN]

lol

Does cyclops ever get hurt!?! :p :rolleyes:

I wanted to kick his ass for Jean's ankle. :mad:
Well I don't know about that. I liked the wat Cyclops was helping her walk and worried about her.

[CapBeerCino]

Cyclops, Angel and Rogue come to save the day in the final battle!

And another review Phoenix. I accept that for some seeing Famke Jennson will be worth the admission price. The Phoenix story has it's moments (particular Phoenix VS Wolverine towards the end)
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231907

Guess we'll have to wait and see...

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Cyclops, Angel and Rogue come to save the day in the final battle!
If only that happens... I keep wishing for it all the time.

[High Voltage]

Cyclops, Angel and Rogue come to save the day in the final battle!

I'd f***in love it if that happened :D,

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well I don't know about that. I liked the wat Cyclops was helping her walk and worried about her.

but she said "ow...my leg.." and atleast Scott said he was sorry. :O When they hugged on the floor...hehe, that was my fave J/S moment :o Did I hear Jean whimper as she held Scott close to her? there was some Ohs and Hmmms and Mmmms. ... Etc. :O

[SCOTT&JEAN]

And another review
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231907

Guess we'll have to wait and see...
Yeah, that is the only thing we can do...

[SCOTT&JEAN]

but she said "ow...my leg.." and atleast Scott said he was sorry. :O When they hugged on the floor...hehe, that was my fave J/S moment :o Did I hear Jean whimper as she held Scott close to her? there was some Ohs and Hmmms and Mmmms. ... Etc. :O
I don't remember...

I really need to see that movie again.

[LEX]

And another review
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231907

Guess we'll have to wait and see...
Ha, they spelled her last name wrong.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Ha, they spelled her last name wrong.

Damn it!! :mad: ITS JANSSEN!! ... lol

[TromaFreak64]

Looks like another negative day in the Cyke thread....

[ginny_weasley]

Ginny I greatly appreciate you putting my petition in your posts....Its ppl like you that could help us really relay to fox how pissed we are and ofourse kurosawa has greatly contirbuted to our own last stand among the cyke fans.....and that goes for anyone....dont hesitate to put the petition in your posts. I will be sending it to Fox once I have enough signatures and we got plenty of time.....

Pleasure is all mine. Thank you for putting effort into that petition.

Hopefully more and more folks will continue to sign it. :up:

[TromaFreak64]

Hey does anyone know what the heck is going on with the production stills. Someone posted the one of Jean and Cyclops now in hi-def looks great, but look at some of the others I noticed they are still calling Quills, Kid Omega....even on the offical production stills for the press...wtf?

[cyke93]

Something came to my mind this morning after I woke up regarding Cykes and his powers.

In X2, we saw Jean deflect his blast back at him, but the question is, did he get hit by his own power and was then thrown back? I mean, he didn't seem he was hurt when he walked towards unconcious Jean. I know that his optic blast damaged the power dam (whatever u wanna call it), which caused the dam to erupt. In X1, Scott fired at Magneto. It knocked him down, yes, but it didn't kill him. In X3, in reviews I've read, we don't see Scott get blown up to bits on screen. When Jean takes off his glasses, she tries to control his optic blast and then after they kiss, Jean senses something is wrong and she loses control. This is what im thinking, perhaps the blast hit cykes and he fell back, falling unconcious. Jean, standing over him, can't believe what she has done, but she too falls unconcious (we see her body by the lake in the trailers).

Later, when Storm and Logan go to Alkali Lake, Logan sees cykes glasses floating but the question is, Where's his body? perhaps he did disappear into thin air, but why would Jean turn him into ashes? :( I mean we don't see it happen to him onscreen. Going back to X2, Scott was thrown back when Jean pushed his optic blast back at him (well most of it, as I said early in the first paragraph, caused the dam to erupt), maybe the same happens to him but this time, it hurts him?

I think it'll be too much for Jean to ... control his blasts and Demolecularize him at the same time...

I'm not holding on hope that Scott might live through X3, but this was something that came to my mind.

The question is...does Scott's power have any affect on himself, even though someone (Jean) deflected his blast at him?? We know it does affect on mutants in a way...but it didn't kill them.

anyway... what do u think?

Well we know that Cyclops and Havok cancel each other out, they cant hurt each other with their powers. So it would seem plausable that Scott cant hurt himself if his powers were reflected back to him. But keep in mind that when he shot magneto in x1, it was not at full blast. remember the train? that was full blast. .. but regardless of the mutant science of the movies, there's a greater, more evil power at work here.. fox

they kill him early, give storm leadership position, and to rub it to all the cyclops fans in the world, they make logan as jean's savior, that he was able to get through to her :: pukes inside:: .. so basically, fox wanted him dead .. they have it. he's not comng back, ever.

[taintedFB]

I think its a fact now that Logan will kill Jean.

BUT, that doesn't necessarily mean Scott is DEAD at Alkali Lake. Honestly, if its Scott that wakes up after the end credits I'll be satisfied. not happy, but satisfied.

Maybe Scott tries to reach Jean first, but she blasts him away, Logan whose healing power spares him is able to reach and kill her.

Either way, unlike the comics, I don't think Jean will be saved. I think she'll be killed. And I think if she lets Logan kill her, its so that she can be with Scott, if he is in fact dead. And if they both do die, then this SHOULD be the end of X-Men in movies AND we should totally boycott Wolverine, so that it becomes the next Elektra.

[cyke93]

I think its a fact now that Logan will kill Jean.

BUT, that doesn't necessarily mean Scott is DEAD at Alkali Lake. Honestly, if its Scott that wakes up after the end credits I'll be satisfied. not happy, but satisfied.

Maybe Scott tries to reach Jean first, but she blasts him away, Logan whose healing power spares him is able to reach and kill her.

Either way, unlike the comics, I don't think Jean will be saved. I think she'll be killed. And I think if she lets Logan kill her, its so that she can be with Scott, if he is in fact dead. And if they both do die, then this SHOULD be the end of X-Men in movies AND we should totally boycott Wolverine, so that it becomes the next Elektra.

having jean die and not have cyclops there is just a crime against x-men. seeing cyclops in the end is good but the damage is already done

[pedro parkero]

That's why I'm urging my friends to just watch this rushed job of a movie in their homes, if they're really intent in seeing it. Though I think I don't really need to because in our place there really is no felt hype in this movie. Same w/ the Supes movie. This is in contrast to Spidey 2 where I can see everyone's senses tingling as early as February that year...

[WorthyStevens]

I'm playing the game right now, and Cyclops is in the early part so far.

[CapBeerCino]

I'm playing the game right now, and Cyclops is in the early part so far.

:) Keep us updated!

[WorthyStevens]

:) Keep us updated!

I will.

Iceman's ice slide, when you learn how to control it, is just awesome. :up:

[ShadesOfRedd]

I'm playing the game right now, and Cyclops is in the early part so far.

How is it?

[WorthyStevens]

How is it?

It's decent so far.

[peteapan]

what has cyke done in it so far?

[CapBeerCino]

Im so happy to see a lot of new users joining us in this thread now that x-3 is around the corner.:) More Cyclops love! :up:

[Octoberist]

If they brought back Cyclops in X4, it would be a huge copout. Honestly. The damage has been done, unless they came up with the best script ever for the sequel...

[ShadesOfRedd]

Im so happy to see a lot of new users joining us in this thread now that x-3 is around the corner.:) More Cyclops love! :up:

I've actually been lurking around this thread for awhile.

[WorthyStevens]

what has cyke done in it so far?

Him revisiting Alkali Lake on the huge rock, then being pushed back by a huge wave (such as in the TV spot), and it's actually just him having a dream (I think), and he wakes up in his bed at the mansion.

[CapBeerCino]

Him revisiting Alkali Lake on the huge rock, then being pushed back by a huge wave (such as in the TV spot), and it's actually just him having a dream (I think), and he wakes up in his bed at the mansion.

Woopy! X-3 was all Cyke's bad dream :up: (That script is still better than him dying...)

[peteapan]

Him revisiting Alkali Lake on the huge rock, then being pushed back by a huge wave (such as in the TV spot), and it's actually just him having a dream (I think), and he wakes up in his bed at the mansion.

weird. im guessing some kind of premonition cos its set between 2 and 3 isnt it?

[WorthyStevens]

weird. im guessing some kind of premonition cos its set between 2 and 3 isnt it?

Yup.

[X-Maniac]

Well, at least Scott and Jean will be together in spirit, on the astral plane...

I can't imagine how they would play his character if she died and he survived - again! The movie version of events has played out very differently...

In the comics, he left after she died...that's sort of at the start of X3 when he goes to the lake after her apparent death in X2... So if she later died at the end of X3 and he lived, what would happen to him then?

[ShadesOfRedd]

Woopy! X-3 was all Cyke's bad dream :up: (That script is still better than him dying...)

Agreed.

[NATE GREY]

I don't know if any one else has checked the new topic on additional clips from the Neatherlands, but it's worth a shot. The way it's going with all these clips....You won't actually have to pay to see the damn movie!!! There is one clip with Storm and Xavier talking, he's imforming her that he see's her taking over from him someday. She does mention Scott, but Xavier just says he's taken Jeans death too hard........What the *&&@!!!!! THIS IS THE MAN'S SURROGATE SON HE'S TAKING ABOUT, JUST BATS HIM ASIDE AND REPLACES HIM LIKE THAT.....GIT!!! WHO WROTE THIS STUFF, HAVE THEY KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHARACTERS AT ALL. I know it's stupid to get irritated by this stuff BUT'S IT'S JUST....JESUS H CHRIST!!!!!

And any one have any idea why I keep imaging Cyke and Havoc having a family bet on how long it takes logan to heal from persistant optic and concussive blasts.....

[peteapan]

I don't know if any one else has checked the new topic on additional clips from the Neatherlands, but it's worth a shot. The way it's going with all these clips....You won't actually have to pay to see the damn movie!!! There is one clip with Storm and Xavier talking, he's imforming her that he see's her taking over from him someday. She does mention Scott, but Xavier just says he's taken Jeans death too hard........What the *&&@!!!!! THIS IS THE MAN'S SURROGATE SON HE'S TAKING ABOUT, JUST BATS HIM ASIDE AND REPLACES HIM LIKE THAT.....GIT!!! WHO WROTE THIS STUFF, HAVE THEY KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHARACTERS AT ALL. I know it's stupid to get irritated by this stuff BUT'S IT'S JUST....JESUS H CHRIST!!!!!

And any one have any idea why I keep imaging Cyke and Havoc having a family bet on how long it takes logan to heal from persistant optic and concussive blasts.....

Jesus. And these writers call themselves fan boys. they have absoloutely no clue

[ShadesOfRedd]

I don't know if any one else has checked the new topic on additional clips from the Neatherlands, but it's worth a shot. The way it's going with all these clips....You won't actually have to pay to see the damn movie!!! There is one clip with Storm and Xavier talking, he's imforming her that he see's her taking over from him someday. She does mention Scott, but Xavier just says he's taken Jeans death too hard........What the *&&@!!!!! THIS IS THE MAN'S SURROGATE SON HE'S TAKING ABOUT, JUST BATS HIM ASIDE AND REPLACES HIM LIKE THAT.....GIT!!! WHO WROTE THIS STUFF, HAVE THEY KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHARACTERS AT ALL. I know it's stupid to get irritated by this stuff BUT'S IT'S JUST....JESUS H CHRIST!!!!!

And any one have any idea why I keep imaging Cyke and Havoc having a family bet on how long it takes logan to heal from persistant optic and concussive blasts.....


****! :mad:

[Aiden]

I don't know if any one else has checked the new topic on additional clips from the Neatherlands, but it's worth a shot. The way it's going with all these clips....You won't actually have to pay to see the damn movie!!! There is one clip with Storm and Xavier talking, he's imforming her that he see's her taking over from him someday. She does mention Scott, but Xavier just says he's taken Jeans death too hard........What the *&&@!!!!! THIS IS THE MAN'S SURROGATE SON HE'S TAKING ABOUT, JUST BATS HIM ASIDE AND REPLACES HIM LIKE THAT.....GIT!!! WHO WROTE THIS STUFF, HAVE THEY KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHARACTERS AT ALL. I know it's stupid to get irritated by this stuff BUT'S IT'S JUST....JESUS H CHRIST!!!!!

And any one have any idea why I keep imaging Cyke and Havoc having a family bet on how long it takes logan to heal from persistant optic and concussive blasts.....I agree, whereabout in Scotland are you from?

[iamjason]

I don't know if any one else has checked the new topic on additional clips from the Neatherlands, but it's worth a shot. The way it's going with all these clips....You won't actually have to pay to see the damn movie!!! There is one clip with Storm and Xavier talking, he's imforming her that he see's her taking over from him someday. She does mention Scott, but Xavier just says he's taken Jeans death too hard........What the *&&@!!!!! THIS IS THE MAN'S SURROGATE SON HE'S TAKING ABOUT, JUST BATS HIM ASIDE AND REPLACES HIM LIKE THAT.....GIT!!! WHO WROTE THIS STUFF, HAVE THEY KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHARACTERS AT ALL. I know it's stupid to get irritated by this stuff BUT'S IT'S JUST....JESUS H CHRIST!!!!!

And any one have any idea why I keep imaging Cyke and Havoc having a family bet on how long it takes logan to heal from persistant optic and concussive blasts.....
DAMN YOU FOX:mad:
Cyclops -the greatest leader of X-men,that's unbreakable turth:mad:
the mansion rule by Storm and Wolverine?!:down

[mustanger405]

Can someopne link this scene with Xavier and Storm at the mansion I wanna see how it plays out...Please I really would like to see this damn travesty

[taintedFB]

If we're going by the comics, then we should realize that after Dark Phoenix, Scott did leave the team and go to Alaska and marry Madelyn Prior.

That is why I think a suitable ending to this movie, would be to just let fans know that Scott is still alive... a few ideas I had:

1. Show the outside of a hospital, then his optic blasts shooting through the roof. Maybe hearing him calling out Jean's name.

2. Show Scott waking up somewhere around Alkali Lake OR in a hospital.

3. Show Scott standing over Jean and Xavier's grave, injured, bandaged, etc... Looking back at the school, then walking away.

4. Or showing Scott still passed out under a physician's care...(Sinister?)

Either of these would at least let us know that they have not TOTALLY disregarded this beloved character. Any of these scenes could have been quickly shot during reshoots or pick-ups, or by second unit in LA or NY. I'm still holding out hope for that secret scene.

Honestly, so if there is an X4, Xavier won't be PAtrick Stewart, but some no name host body? Do they even think before coming up with this crap?

[Optic Rage]

wow did anyone see the clip of jean breaking scotts classes in logans hand.

talk about kicking someone when they are down.

i cant wait for kinberg and penn to show there ugly faces over at the xverse..everyone is going to go over and speak theri minds right?

[grey_jeanie]

wow did anyone see the clip of jean breaking scotts classes in logans hand.

talk about kicking someone when they are down.

i cant wait for kinberg and penn to show there ugly faces over at the xverse..everyone is going to go over and speak theri minds right?

I'd love to see some people throw some proverbial mud at them.

[taintedFB]

Hell yeah.

I find it hard to believe that FOX execs would say "Kill him, don't show it on camera, and don't show anyone mourning him". That I pin on the writers!

He could have died early, but with dignity on camera. He should have had a grand funeral. Storm, Xavier should have cried real tears for him... There's no excuse for this.

[Kanon]

That is why I think a suitable ending to this movie, would be to just let fans know that Scott is still alive...
OMG! That's the secret scene! It's so obvious... :eek:

Scott Summers talking to the bartender from X1

[taintedFB]

That would be cool. And all you need is a line like "been in a hospital for the past week" or "everyone I love just died, pour me another"

Nobody has mentioned that bartender so that may be the secret scene they are withholding....

[mustanger405]

A true actor who deserves more.....

'X-Men's' James Marsden Cried Real Tears On Set

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/th/James%20Marsden-1.jpg (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/)James Marsden (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/) shed real tears while shooting an emotional scene for X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/X-Men_3/) because he missed his young children so much. Chats between Marsden and a crew member, who was also separated from his young family, meant Marsden didn't need to rely on special effects.
He says, "You just think about terrible things happening to your family. Those were real tears. I kept thinking when I saw it that it's gonna look like somebody just put water in my glasses.
He added, "Lee Cleary who is the first AD (Assistant Director), we both have kids; I have a five-year-old and an 8-month-old and he starts saying something about some TV morning show and started singing a song from something and they (my kids) were away and I was in Vancouver and hadn't seen them in ages and I was just sitting there thinking about them and it (the tears) just came."

[Kanon]

Nobody has mentioned that bartender so that may be the secret scene they are withholding....
And if you just put a red diamond on his forehead...

[mustanger405]

I thought it was confirmed Scott's name is on one of the tombstones alongside Jean and Xavier

[DarknessOfDeath]

-cries his eyes out-


...


Im so emotional today... I feel closer to the darkside and I regret for watching all these clips... Jean is alive...somewhere...

...

...

I love James...he's a great guy, a loving father of two and in terms of acting, I put him up there with Miss Famke Janssen and Mr. Ian McKellen.

[iamjason]

I thought it was confirmed Scott's name is on one of the tombstones alongside Jean and Xavier
Storm and Logan will incharge the school
THEY PLAN FOR IT XD

[Latin_Princess1]

Wait i'm sooo confused right now does he die or wut?? not that i want him to die

[CapBeerCino]

A true actor who deserves more.....

'X-Men's' James Marsden Cried Real Tears On Set

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/th/James%20Marsden-1.jpg (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/)James Marsden (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/) shed real tears while shooting an emotional scene for X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/X-Men_3/) because he missed his young children so much. Chats between Marsden and a crew member, who was also separated from his young family, meant Marsden didn't need to rely on special effects.
He says, "You just think about terrible things happening to your family. Those were real tears. I kept thinking when I saw it that it's gonna look like somebody just put water in my glasses.
He added, "Lee Cleary who is the first AD (Assistant Director), we both have kids; I have a five-year-old and an 8-month-old and he starts saying something about some TV morning show and started singing a song from something and they (my kids) were away and I was in Vancouver and hadn't seen them in ages and I was just sitting there thinking about them and it (the tears) just came."

*Melts then dies* :O

[Kurosawa]

wow did anyone see the clip of jean breaking scotts classes in logans hand.

talk about kicking someone when they are down.

i cant wait for kinberg and penn to show there ugly faces over at the xverse..everyone is going to go over and speak theri minds right?

Just disgusting.

[taintedFB]

I think he is believed dead in the film.

We never actually see him dissintegrate, like we do Xavier, so there is still hope for either a secret scene after the credits showing he survived, or a surprise return should there be an X4.

I personally feel that this WILL be the last X-Men movie. I think they hope that WOLVERINE movies will carry the mantle. YEAH RIGHT!

Still, the fact that it is never shown suggests room for an out. Which is more than I can say for Patrick Stewart. It may just be up for interpretation.

[PikaZeroX]

OMG! That's the secret scene! It's so obvious... :eek:

Scott Summers talking to the bartender from X1

I thought Wolverine leaves the X-Men and he goes back into the cage matches? Or am I thinking of the book?

Either way, probably alternate endings for Wolverine.

[Kurosawa]

If they brought back Cyclops in X4, it would be a huge copout. Honestly. The damage has been done, unless they came up with the best script ever for the sequel...

Best bet is for a total reboot some years down the road.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Scott stumbles into the bar and asks the bartender "Excuse me...where's ur bathroom?" :p ... ... lol -sighs- erm well -shrugs- I could almost see part of that happening... but not the bathroom part... :p

[Retroman]

OMG! That's the secret scene! It's so obvious... :eek:

Scott Summers talking to the bartender from X1
September 8, 2005, Doug Lennox wraps X-Men 3 shoot.

Doug returned today from a whirlwind trip to Vancouver where he finished shooting his role in X-Men 3 opposite Hugh Jackman.

August 20, 2005, Doug Lennox to star in X-Men 3.

Fans of the X-Men series will be glad to hear that Doug has signed to reprise his role as cantankerous bartender, Brewer, in X-Men 3, set to begin shooting in Vancouver in September.
Source: http://www.douglennox.com/news.htm

[gap5ewl]

seriously why is everyone againsy cyclops coming back in x4? everyone whose seen it says it doesnt show his death. it can be done properly

[ShadesOfRedd]

wow did anyone see the clip of jean breaking scotts classes in logans hand.

talk about kicking someone when they are down.

i cant wait for kinberg and penn to show there ugly faces over at the xverse..everyone is going to go over and speak theri minds right?

:mad: What X-Men comics have Kinberg and Penn been reading?

[Retroman]

A true actor who deserves more.....

'X-Men's' James Marsden Cried Real Tears On Set

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/th/James%20Marsden-1.jpg (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/)James Marsden (http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Marsden,_James/) shed real tears while shooting an emotional scene for X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/X-Men_3/) because he missed his young children so much. Chats between Marsden and a crew member, who was also separated from his young family, meant Marsden didn't need to rely on special effects.
He says, "You just think about terrible things happening to your family. Those were real tears. I kept thinking when I saw it that it's gonna look like somebody just put water in my glasses.
He added, "Lee Cleary who is the first AD (Assistant Director), we both have kids; I have a five-year-old and an 8-month-old and he starts saying something about some TV morning show and started singing a song from something and they (my kids) were away and I was in Vancouver and hadn't seen them in ages and I was just sitting there thinking about them and it (the tears) just came."
Aaaw...thats a touching story.:up:

[JustABill]

That whole Wolverine/Bar Scene better not be in the movie. It's so stupid to even have Wolverine whipped into a leader by Storm, then have him run off right away after Jean dies.

[gap5ewl]

That whole Wolverine/Bar Scene better not be in the movie. It's so stupid to even have Wolverine whipped into a leader by Storm, then have him run off right away after Jean dies.
its not. You guys forgot that Ratner said he was filming a bunch of scenes that would only be in the dvd. That will be one of them which leads me to believe there will be a few alternate endings in the dvd.

[Mar420x]

yea i remember when x3 was in production that they brought back the bartender dude i wonder what happen 2 his scene.

[Retroman]

That whole Wolverine/Bar Scene better not be in the movie. It's so stupid to even have Wolverine whipped into a leader by Storm, then have him run off right away after Jean dies.
We don't know when it takes place and what Logan is doing there.

[cyke93]

its not. You guys forgot that Ratner said he was filming a bunch of scenes that would only be in the dvd. That will be one of them which leads me to believe there will be a few alternate endings in the dvd.

that's a load of crap, y do we have to wait for the Dvd ??!

[Shockdingo]

Man after reading so much of this I'm so friggin' depressed now :\
I love Cyke

[cyke93]

Man after reading so much of this I'm so friggin' depressed now :\
I love Cyke

yep its been pretting depressing ever since i joined here in march