Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Compi716]

Guys, GUYS! I just found an exclusive video clip which features the audio used for Wolverine when he discovers that Cyclops is dead! Listen for the crazed yelling!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8fEIorujOY&search=fanboy%20screaming













:D

[Kurosawa]

Guys, GUYS! I just found an exclusive video clip which features the audio used for Wolverine when he discovers that Cyclops is dead! Listen for the crazed yelling!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8fEIorujOY&search=fanboy%20screaming













:D

LMAO

[ginny_weasley]

Who else thinks we should ally ourselves with the Rogue fans? They're cause is very much ours.


I've very disappointed in Rogue's treatment as well as Cyke's.

And it seems like they're both getting pushed aside for other characters.
What do you all say? The more united fans under our banner, the better.

We need a catchy name for our sigs though. The best I could come up with was:

FFTRC: Fans for Fair Treatment of Rogue and Cyke

...I'm sure someone can think of something better :O

[Kurosawa]

Who else thinks we should ally ourselves with the Rogue fans? They're cause is very much ours.


I've very disappointed in Rogue's treatment as well as Cyke's.

And it seems like they're both getting pushed aside for other characters.
What do you all say? The more united fans under our banner, the better.

We need a catchy name for our sigs though. The best I could come up with was:

FFTRC: Fans for Fair Treatment of Rogue and Cyke

...I'm sure someone can think of something better :O


I thought they completely blew it with Rogue all through the movies. Everything that made her cool and unique in the comics they took from her, except for her inability to control her powers.

[Aiden]

I don't. Some Rogue fan's are mental

[CapBeerCino]

I don't. Some Rogue fan's are mental

You know a lot of people say the same about us :p

[WorthyStevens]

You know a lot of people say the same about us :p

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/593/orlydaffy4wg.jpg

:p

[Aiden]

You know a lot of people say the same about us :pNo, seriously, they took the news about Rogue way harder than us. How many of us threatened to kill Brett, Simon and Zak?

[ginny_weasley]

No, seriously, they took the news about Rogue way harder than us. How many of us threatened to kill Brett, Simon and Zak?

haha, maybe they are a little wacky. :eek:

[Aiden]

haha, maybe they are a little wacky. :eek:Told ya so :up:

[CapBeerCino]

No, seriously, they took the news about Rogue way harder than us. How many of us threatened to kill Brett, Simon and Zak?

I must've missed that. How many Rogue fans are out there anyway? I can only think of two :confused:

[Endeavor]

Oooh, don't let Gina hear you say that! :eek:

[Gadabout_belle]

Excellent video. Could you please put it somewhere where we can download it? I'd love to have a copy on my harddrive.

I'm sure James would be very touched by all the support for his character and for him as an actor.
Sure http://rapidshare.de/files/20705397/10cyclopshero.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/20705397/10cyclopshero.wmv.html)

[Aiden]

Oooh, don't let Gina hear you say that! :eek::eek: :eek: :eek:

I'm sooo scared :p

[phoenix_force]

oh don't even speak that name youknowwho will do instead of "the name"

[CapBeerCino]

Oooh, don't let Gina hear you say that! :eek:

Why?

[taintedFB]

Okay, guys back to Cyclops...

I was thinking of starting a thread devoted exclusively to alternate ways of working around Marsden's schedule, other than killing him at Alkali.

What do ya think?

[CapBeerCino]

Okay, guys back to Cyclops...

I was thinking of starting a thread devoted exclusively to alternate ways of working around Marsden's schedule, other than killing him at Alkali.

What do ya think?

Lol I think by the 26th the front page will be all Cyclops threads. (right now it's about one out of two :p)

[phoenix_force]

they didn't get rid of him for the scheduale there were alot of other reasons one of the main ones is Halle Berry they want storm the leader..

[Retroman]

are cyclops' cut scenes in the extras for x1 and x2?
Yes but some can only be seen in the behind-the-scene footag. I found that weird.


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http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4526/scottholdsororox12of.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3315/xmen2c4jr.jpg

[Retroman]

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3072/385cv.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8162/2870807main1fz.jpg

[CapBeerCino]

Yes but some can only be seen in the behind-the-scene footag. I found that weird.



http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4378/cut2x14ui.jpg



That scene was so awkward good thing it was cut!

[taintedFB]

Not True.

All Halle wanted was a clear point of view and personality. She wanted her character to matter, and not just be one of the pawns...

She did not ask to lead or to have more screentime. She wanted quality not quantity. I don't blame her, if only she'd thought of quality before Catwoman, lol.

X-Men can have multiple leaders. Stories can easily be crafted where the team splits up and Storm leads a group and Scott leads a group.

Honestly, in this one I had hoped Storm would lead the team against the Brotherhood and protect Leech, while Scott would lead a team to track down and stop Phoenix, oh well.

Point is, Jimmy's not as big a star as the others and his role has always been poorly written, yet he's still managed to have memorable and powerful performances...

It's not Halle or Hugh. It's the studio who think this movie is for actor's fans rather than comic and character fans!

Still, I think if Marsden were available, he wouldn't have been the lead in the film, but he would have survived and been a real part of it.

[Retroman]

That scene was so awkward good thing it was cut!
I would have like to have seen it.

[taintedFB]

You can't judge it by a freeze frame.

[Retroman]

Not True.

All Halle wanted was a clear point of view and personality. She wanted her character to matter, and not just be one of the pawns...

She did not ask to lead or to have more screentime. She wanted quality not quantity. I don't blame her, if only she'd thought of quality before Catwoman, lol.
X-Men can have multiple leaders. Stories can easily be crafted where the team splits up and Storm leads a group and Scott leads a group.

Honestly, in this one I had hoped Storm would lead the team against the Brotherhood and protect Leech, while Scott would lead a team to track down and stop Phoenix, oh well.

Point is, Jimmy's not as big a star as the others and his role has always been poorly written, yet he's still managed to have memorable and powerful performances...

It's not Halle or Hugh. It's the studio who think this movie is for actor's fans rather than comic and character fans!

Still, I think if Marsden were available, he wouldn't have been the lead in the film, but he would have survived and been a real part of it.
Thats the hypocracy. Halle demands more quality from the writers and producers of X-Men then goes of and makes a movie like Catwoman.That means we'll probably won't get a new version in Nolan's bat series.

[Strgts]

That means we'll probably won't get a new version in Nolan's bat series.

Whys that ? Catwoman is long dead & after Halles Movie it can be done right but just not with Halle. Heck bring back Michelle shes still hot :up:

[LEX]

Yes but some can only be seen in the behind-the-scene footag. I found that weird.


http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9468/cut3x17xz.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4378/cut2x14ui.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4526/scottholdsororox12of.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3315/xmen2c4jr.jpg
I saw that scene, too, while I was watching the X-Men 1.5 DVD. I wish there was a final version for the scene.

[CapBeerCino]

I would have like to have seen it.

Just look at the pics and imagine James and Halle calling each other and panting. I found it awkward.

[Retroman]

Whys that ? Catwoman is long dead & after Halles Movie it can be done right but just not with Halle. Heck bring back Michelle shes still hot :up:
I think i read it somewhere. I'm not sure where.:confused:

[Retroman]

Just look at the pics and imagine James and Halle calling each other and panting. I found it awkward.
Cyke just blew a open the roof of a train station, is without his visor (can't see) and Storm almost got choked. I'd call that pretty awkward.

[taintedFB]

Halle said she'd actually do another Catwoman if done right.

Too late.

I think Dina Meyer, from Birds of Prey would make a good catwoman. She kind of resembles a younger Michelle Pfeiffer with dark hair. Or if you want to go younger, Keri Russell. She was awesome in MI3. tHEY ALL HAVE CAT-LIKE FEATURES.

[weatherwitch]

Yes but some can only be seen in the behind-the-scene footag. I found that weird.





http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4526/scottholdsororox12of.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3315/xmen2c4jr.jpg

I think Jimmy boy copped a feel....and Halle liked it...awkward indeed....

[Balthus Dire]

What's awkward is that rediculous wig!

[weatherwitch]

What's awkward is that rediculous wig!

ridiculous.

[taintedFB]

She looked hot in X2. Let's not get into another Halle hair discussion though...

[mustanger405]

PS: Well, yes. It was me and Jimmy Marsden, from the movie, and my partner, and my son. That was it. And we were all blown away by it. So, you know, my son is an X-Men fan, so I was getting, you know, the layman's point of you. So, it was, it was very positive.

The main concern, which was very much a Marvel concern, was if this is going to be an ongoing franchise, we can't kill off the leader of the X-Men, because anyway it's breaking the line of what the comic book story has been. And, uh, then when Brett was on board, his first response to this in the first phone conversation we had, because I was filming in England, was, "We can't let Xavier die. It's just crazy. We cannot erase this man from the X-Men franchise." So then the conversation became and, of course, none of this could be talked about at the time, became, "What do we do?" And, umm … Nobody told me how this film ended. Um, I was aware there were three endings. There was an ending I'd read in one script. There was an ending that I filmed in the first days of production when we were out on Vancouver Island, which was never on the call sheet. There was no documentary evidence that this scene had ever been shot.

Q: So, will Scott come back as well, or does he have …

PS: Who?

Q: Scott … who was vaporized at the beginning of the movie …

Q: We never see a body.

PS: We don't quite know what she did to him, we can only assume, given what we see her try to do to Wolverine, and what she does do to Xavier, that it's something similar, but her relationship with Scott was different from both of ours. So it is possible. I personally love it, because I love Jimmy Marsden, so it's always horrible when you lose people in movies. I hate that.
(Laughter.)

I Dont understand this utter B.S. ........WHAT WAS THE POINT OF SIMON KINSBERG AND ZAK TALKING TO US ON THE XVERSE IF THEY COULDNT EVEN THROW IN A SCENE OF CYKE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. EVERYONE WANTED TO SEE CYKE RETURN AT THE END. WE MUST OF TOLD SIMON HUNDREDS OF TIMES SINCE WE WERE TALKING TO HIM DIRECTLY ON THE XVERSE. WHAT DO THEY DO????.....THEY COMPLETELY IGNORE US AND WORRY ABOUT REMOVING XAVIER FROM THE FRANCHISE.....WHAT ABOUT CYCLOPS DAMN IT. NO ONE WAS EVEN WORRYING THAT MUCH ABOUT XAVIER. AT LEAST NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS SCOTT. IT PISSES ME OFF....I MEAN PATRICK STEWART EVEN SAW THE MOVIE WITH JAMES MARSDEN....AND APPARENTLY EVERYBODY LOVES HIM THEN WHY OH WHY DOES HE ALWAYS GET THE SHAFT. WE ALL CARE ABOUT SEEING CYCLOPS.....DONT THEY GET THE *****ING POINT. APPARENTLY DRILLING IN INTO THEIR SKULLS AT THE XVERSE HAD NO EFFECT SINCE THEY BRING XAVIER BACK AT THE END AND JUST LEAVE SCOTTS FATE UP IN THE AIR....VAPORIZED. I REALLY DONT GET IT....I JUST DONT

[ginny_weasley]

I really could care less about the scene after the credits. We shouldn't have to beg for a little easter egg that ain't even canon to the movie.

Still, it does seem like another slap in the face.

And I have to love this line:

"Q: So, will Scott come back as well, or does he have …

PS: Who?"

*sigh* Patrick, not you too!

[mustanger405]

ginny we aint even getting the easter egg though thats the sad thing.....

[ginny_weasley]

ginny we aint even getting the easter egg though thats the sad thing.....

O I totally see that and how it's like another insult. But in a way I'm almost glad it's not Cyke: it would be as if Fox thought that would be enough to satisfy his fans.

[LEX]

How about -- SCORO? :p

(Don't mind me. :o)

[jusblaze21]

Not only does Xavier Come back at the end, He also dies in battle. If they absolutley had to kill Cyke it should of been in battle IMO.

[Pizzaboy1138]

Eh, I do a little sprite comic in my free time and did this a while ago. I hope it cheers someone up who has the Cyke blues

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5315/showcases24xg.th.png (http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showcases24xg.png)

Very cool. Thanks for sharing. :)

[WorthyStevens]

How about -- SCORO? :p

(Don't mind me. :o)

I prefer SCYLOCKE or SCALLISTO. :p

Perhaps even SCAVITA. :p

[taintedFB]

Okay, now I'm bummed...

not just because of Scott, but because this Xavier seems sounds like the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I really hope this is the last movie and they let this franchise retain some dignity. I hope they drop that easter egg from the final print, because I think it will cheapen and ruin the rest of the film and turn into a stupid B-movie type sci-fi thing.

Trying to focus on the good...

Scott's scenes will be great and very emotional....
Scott's death will haunt Jean throughout the movie and make her want to die...
The movie is so fast paced that Scott's part won't seem as small as it really is....

[mustanger405]

You Know What Would Make Me Dance All Night Long! Lol
If The New Character Spot Tonight Was For Cyclops...and It Showed Him In The Suit....it Would Have Fans Heads Spinning.....that Would Be Such A Crazy Move By Fox. It Wont Happen But Imagine....i Would Be Like Holy ***** Lol

[taintedFB]

That would be cool! We can only hope!

[peteapan]

not any more. its mystiques

[CapBeerCino]

Okay, now I'm bummed...

not just because of Scott, but because this Xavier seems sounds like the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I really hope this is the last movie and they let this franchise retain some dignity. I hope they drop that easter egg from the final print, because I think it will cheapen and ruin the rest of the film and turn into a stupid B-movie type sci-fi thing.


That's it. The last of the optimist gave up. :( I can't believe it turned out that bad for Cyclops fans.

[WorthyStevens]

That's it. The last of the optimist gave up. :( I can't believe it turned out that bad for Cyclops fans.

I'm hoping, hoping, one of the 3 alternate endings Patrick Stewart was talking about involves Cyke in one of them.

[CapBeerCino]

I'm hoping, hoping, one of the 3 alternate endings Patrick Stewart was talking about involves Cyke in one of them.

I wish. Still sucks but I guess that's the best we can get.

[ginny_weasley]

Frack the alternate endings! They're just a tease. Sorry, but we shouldn't have to be begging for this in a Dark Phoenix adaptation. We shouldn't have even had to beg for Scott to appear last minute in the Final Battle.

So far, the only good thing we've got is a great performance by James and Jean's reactions to his death (which also seem great - glad to know someone cares he's gone).

[Garrison]

Even though I'm pissed that Cyke dies at least Jean dies with him so she doesn't end up with Logan in the end.

[Trevor Goodchild]

About Mystique's spot - there's really nothing there. No action scene with her alongside Magneto or against the X-Men. Except of course the shot with her in human depowered form. But it was only seen in the full trailer and those scene's are so much apart...whatever could they be holding up for her...?

[taintedFB]

Where are these Mystique rumors coming from?

I guess its still possible that Jimmy, like Patrick, filmed a secret scene that he didn't talk about...

Clearly, Patrick didn't know about it. It kind of bugged me that he's that close with Jimmy, yet isn't the slightest bit bothered by how his character is just killed off.

I still hate Xavier waking up in Moira's hospital or whatever... Maybe that's the movieverse's version of Astral Projection, but if its not Patrick Stewart, what's the point?

I'm starting to think Fox just didn't want Jimmy anymore and maybe he's over it. He got shafted in all 3 movies, he came back this time for the fans but he's done.

At least, we'll see alot more of him in Superman! So we shouldn't feel too bad.

IF there is an X4, they had better bring him back. That's the only reason for it never being shown in X3...

"Death is relative"
"People die and come back all the time in comics"
"Not all fates are what they seem"

X2, right now is my favorite movie ever! Despite all this, I think this movie is going to be great and MAY end up being my favorite movie ever. The performances are so good and it looks very emotional and unsettling, and Jimmy gives his best Scott performance. So this may be my favorite... we'll see how it all plays out...

I'd rather Scott, Jean, and Xavier, and Magneto die and this be the end of the franchise, then find some cheat to bring Xavier back. Some cheat to give Magneto his powers back. And leave Scott and Jean dead and forgotten. X4 won't work without Scott and it will simply be Fox milking the franchise to death like WB did with Batman.

[wobbly]

Even though I'm pissed that Cyke dies at least Jean dies with him so she doesn't end up with Logan in the end.

Until X4 at least...

[Trevor Goodchild]

Where are these Mystique rumors coming from?
I’m not exactly pointing out that she might be mimicking Cyclops and dying in his stead.
I’m just wondering whatever have they in store for her since we’ve seen just as much of her character as Scott.

[WorthyStevens]

Even though I'm pissed that Cyke dies at least Jean dies with him so she doesn't end up with Logan in the end.

Until Logan finally dies, and they steal Jean's corpse and places her next to Logan. :p

[mustanger405]

Is Anyone Looking Foward To Talking To Simon And Zak After This Movie Releases Because I Am :)

[Aiden]

Is Anyone Looking Foward To Talking To Simon And Zak After This Movie Releases Because I Am :)Yes, all I want to know is why they led us on for so long, only to have our hearts broken

[martinbluther]

they'll show? I have serious doubts...

[Aiden]

they'll show? I have serious doubts...They will. They want to discuss the movie after we see it

[martinbluther]

fair enough. Hope they do. I really hope the movie will be better than we think it will be...

[Aiden]

It will be

[Trevor Goodchild]

As a movie I have no doubt it will surpass all our expectations.
It's the adaptation part that always worries me…the pain will never cease as long as we get such attitudes from the studios…

[ginny_weasley]

I was reading though old X2 articles, and this one (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,450274_1||332888|0_0_,00.html)from entertainment weekly stuck with me:

'Why ''X2'' is the perfect movie adaptation. When it comes to making a big budget flick from a comic, says Jeff Jensen, others would be wise to follow three important rules'

This was number 2....

TRUST THE SOURCE MATERIAL The danger of hiring serious-minded auteurs to helm superhero franchises is that they don’t want to look silly. Singer himself struggled with the standard tropes of codenames and costumes while making ''X1.'' Fortunately, he got over himself. ''X2'' is chockablock with classic ''X-Men'' beats that will delight fans of the comic book adventures -- most memorably (and importantly, since it sets up ''X3''), the emergence of Phoenix. Best of all, Singer incorporates these elements in a way that doesn't alienate newcomers; instead, they enhance the richness and mystery of the story. The solution to solving the silly issue isn’t to run away from it, but to make us believe in it.

[cyke93]

Until Logan finally dies, and they steal Jean's corpse and places her next to Logan. :p

haha daym worthy.. its like ur reading my mind.

[Endeavor]

Why?

Lol
she's runs that Logan&Marie site i think
i was joking around though

[CapBeerCino]

They will. They want to discuss the movie after we see it

I dont think they will. Why did they leave in the first place?

[Trevor Goodchild]

I was reading though old X2 articles, and this one (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,450274_1||332888|0_0_,00.html)from entertainment weekly stuck with me:
Hmm, upon reading the whole article, I definitely agree with him on his second rule but when I read through the 1st and 3rd rules it sounded to me like the guy doesn't enjoy shorter 'simpler' movies.
To each its own of course…

[CapBeerCino]

Lol
she's runs that Logan&Marie site i think
i was joking around though

Logan and Mary in the movieverse? That's disturbing! (and illegal is several countries) :p

[Endeavor]

Logan and Mary in the movieverse? That's disturbing! (and illegal is several countries) :p

Yeah movieverse. A lot of people liked the idea of them together since they were the leads in X1.

[WorthyStevens]

Lol
she's runs that Logan&Marie site i think
i was joking around though

Heh...

http://www.petitiononline.com/XMEN2006/petition.html

Read where it says who created it, at the bottom. :p

[Endeavor]

Heh...

http://www.petitiononline.com/XMEN2006/petition.html

Read where it says who created it, at the bottom. :p

Gina!

I'm sure a lot of you guys will enjoy the font size, lol! :p ;)

[CapBeerCino]

Heh...

http://www.petitiononline.com/XMEN2006/petition.html

Read where it says who created it, at the bottom. :p

:eek: 1743 ppl signed?!

[CapBeerCino]

"The chemistry between Anna & Hugh is extremely magnetic" *shivers*
how old is she anyway?

[Endeavor]

"The chemistry between Anna & Hugh is extremely magnetic" *shivers*
how old is she anyway?
Now? Like 24 or 25 i believe. Back then she must've been 17.

[gambitfire]

:eek: 1743 ppl signed?!

If everyone doesn't watch this opening day or at all. That right there is about $ 14,815 fox won't get.

[Aiden]

Gina!

I'm sure a lot of you guys will enjoy the font size, lol! :p ;)*GASP* :p

[CapBeerCino]

If everyone doesn't watch this opening day or at all. That right there is about $ 14,815 fox won't get.

Wrong petition gf ;)

[gambitfire]

Wrong petition gf ;)

OH....EW!!!

[CapBeerCino]

The whole cast will be in Cannes but James (and Anna) :(

[ginny_weasley]

The whole cast will be in Cannes but James (and Anna) :(

Bummer - go figure. :(

But who knows, maybe they just couldn't make it.

[lordofthenerds]

Heh...

http://www.petitiononline.com/XMEN2006/petition.html

Read where it says who created it, at the bottom. :p
Damn Gina followers. :o

[TromaFreak64]

Bummer - go figure. :(

But who knows, maybe they just couldn't make it.

But we must admit the two characters we are hearing get the shaft in this film and the two not coming....odd.

[ginny_weasley]

But we must admit the two characters we are hearing get the shaft in this film and the two not coming....odd.

Yes, it is indeed suspicious....

[xwolverine2]

If everyone doesn't watch this opening day or at all. That right there is about $ 14,815 fox won't get.
rotfl!!!

shows how much fans matter.....


or atleast the crazy ones:o

[ginny_weasley]

All right guys I need to blow off some steam. I'll be short.

There are so many things that look like they're gonna be great in this film: even the "Where's Scott" scene gives ole Cyke some justice and I'm glad that he'll play an important emotional role with Jean's turn to the dark side.

Still, when I think what we were hoping for and what could have been, it just hurts. It really does. I'll watch these films and a little piece of my heart will tug every time for Cyke. It's a tug I really don't need.

It's actually quite ridiculous: I'm currently swamped with end of the semester craziness, and I'm sitting around mourning poor Cyclops.

[MsNatchios]

Yes but some can only be seen in the behind-the-scene footag. I found that weird.


http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9468/cut3x17xz.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4378/cut2x14ui.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4526/scottholdsororox12of.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3315/xmen2c4jr.jpg
Looks like he's serenading her...very poorly.

[cyke93]

It's actually quite ridiculous: I'm currently swamped with end of the semester craziness, and I'm sitting around mourning poor Cyclops.

yep i feel you. i spent so much time here instead of "Studying" o well .. still got a B in that class anyways .. lol

[DarknessOfDeath]

All right guys I need to blow off some steam. I'll be short.

There are so many things that look like they're gonna be great in this film: even the "Where's Scott" scene gives ole Cyke some justice and I'm glad that he'll play an important emotional role with Jean's turn to the dark side.

Still, when I think what we were hoping for and what could have been, it just hurts. It really does. I'll watch these films and a little piece of my heart will tug every time for Cyke. It's a tug I really don't need.

It's actually quite ridiculous: I'm currently swamped with end of the semester craziness, and I'm sitting around mourning poor Cyclops.

ur not alone...just as long as cykes doesn't punch a hole in my heart without his visors, he's still alive in my heart... -looks down-

[cyke93]

guys im feeling bummbed out .. do we have any good news ?heheeh

[DarknessOfDeath]

um... I got my eye on that storm/scott pic... the last one heh. oooh i see cleavage. :o

[cyke93]

um... I got my eye on that storm/scott pic... the last one heh. oooh i see cleavage. :o

well he felt her up and she took his leadership position.. call them even

[ginny_weasley]

guys im feeling bummbed out .. do we have any good news ?heheeh

No...but here's a Cyke pic to cheer us up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg


Thanks for the support guys. I know a lot of you are bigger fans than I. I feel for you all too. :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

No...but here's a Cyke pic to cheer us up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg


Thanks for the support guys. I know a lot of you are bigger fans than I. I feel for you all too. :)

I feel like leaping on him... hehehe and give him a big hug!!!

[taintedFB]

At least they have the option to bring him back in X4.

We never actually see what happens, so it will be assumed but never really known.

And Jimmy's scenes look awesome. And the movie is so short that it won't feel like he's been gone too long...

[cyke93]

No...but here's a Cyke pic to cheer us up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg


Thanks for the support guys. I know a lot of you are bigger fans than I. I feel for you all too. :)

this doesnt cheer me up. only reminds me that i need to do some shopping but i havent gotten the time to do it yet

[CapBeerCino]

this doesnt cheer me up. only reminds me that i need to do some shopping but i havent gotten the time to do it yet

Cyke's green pants make you feel like shopping :confused: :p

[CapBeerCino]

It's a little comforting to see in the front page:


"Poll: Storm or Cyclops?" (at least Cyke's leading in that!)

"What ****** Cyclops ?!"

"Cyclops fans we lost, my 2 cents"

"I kinda hope this movie bombs...."

And of course "Official Cyclops/marsden Thread"


I hope someone at fox is taking notes!

[martinbluther]

Is the guy at one end of the Miller Lite square table for the man rules Marsden? Looks like him or Guy Pearce...

[Retroman]

LOOK everybody it's Cyclops in the final battle!!!!:eek: :cyclops: :p

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/127/x3sb0827qz.jpg


Source: http://www.thexverse.com/gallery_image.php?image=864&parent=42

[LEX]

*looks at Factor cover*

*cries*

[peteapan]

Advertising like that is just Fox full on lying to us

[Axl Rose]

How? He's in the dam movie aint he?

[CapBeerCino]

How? He's in the dam movie aint he?

Yay! another troll :up:

[peteapan]

How? He's in the dam movie aint he?

Not in that "dam" costume he aint

[Balthus Dire]

*cries*

[Axl Rose]

Not in that "dam" costume he aint

Does it really matter what costume he's got? FFS

[CapBeerCino]

:mad: From an interview with Hugh:


"this movie is really about what role does he take. And as you know there is a huge shake up, you know, in the team fairly early on so will he step up or won't he? Because he is essentially a loner and essentially if something needs to be done he just does it himself and doesn't feel comfortable relying on anybody else"...

And:

The fact that he basically kills the woman he loves for the greater good, what do you think, just for the sake of speculation how do you think he would progress from that point on?

HJ: Well it's the ultimate heroic act. What he has done, it's really one of the themes of this movie, how far would you go for the woman you love or the person you love? And it's a complicated love, as you know, it's unrequited and even in this … so it's really, I love that about the film, I think at the end of this he's going to be as tortured and conflicted internally as he has ever been. Even though he has, kind of, heroically continually crossed that line of doing the greater good. So personally, I don't know, a lot of therapy I guess. It would be like Tony Soprano's version

I think I now know why Cyclops had to die :mad:

[peteapan]

Does it really matter what costume he's got? FFS

Yes. when it means he isnt even seen in the film as part of the team let alone his rightful place as leader of the team. When it means he see's no action in the movie at all yet they publish pics of him in such poses and outfits to fool people into thinking this is what they will get in the movie

[Axl Rose]

I doulbt its too fool people - cant exactly have him as the odd one on the poster. And if he wasnt on there you'd al complain about that.

[peteapan]

I doulbt its too fool people - cant exactly have him as the odd one on the poster. And if he wasnt on there you'd al complain about that.

well its not to lead people to think he doesnt appear in costume in the movie is it! in all honesty id rather he wasnt there then have them raise my hopes with such a picture only to have the dashed in the film

[Retroman]

:mad: From an interview with Hugh:



I think I now know why Cyclops had to die :mad:
:( Yup. So all the conspiracy theories can down the drain once and for all. I also think that 3rd ending is with the bar scene if Logan is so distraught after this.

[CapBeerCino]

:( Yup. So all the conspiracy theories can down the drain once and for all. I also think that 3rd ending is with the bar scene if Logan is so distraught after this.

To have a secret scene with Wolverine... just imagine how surprised people will be. not.

[Daniella]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg

Green Pants !!!

But, even if I like it, I prefer what is inside ( I mean, Scott... not just that part of him... :D )

Dany

[DarknessOfDeath]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/bookwormdarlin/x2.jpg

Green Pants !!!

But, even if I like it, I prefer what is inside ( I mean, Scott... not just that part of him... :D )

Dany

Daniella :o you don't say ;)

[Daniella]

Daniella :o you don't say ;)

Well, I'm a girl after all... :D

Dany

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well, I'm a girl after all... :D

Dany

of course -puts his hands on his hips- :D

[cyke93]

:mad: From an interview with Hugh:



I think I now know why Cyclops had to die :mad:


to give logan more screen timei and a nice emotional scene which shows him conflicted.. yep WE ALL KNOW WHY CYCLOPS DIED

[Hugh'sMrs]

Well at least Hugh admits that Wolverine's love for Jean is unrequited.

[cyke93]

Well at least Hugh admits that Wolverine's love for Jean is unrequited.

im so happy for the happy couple

[kevhulk73]

im so happy for the happy couple


HOW is that inconsistant with the comics, as far as Logans feelings for jean are concerned?( although in the last few years , in the comics, logan admitted it would never work between them)


I'm so happy for you crybabys:down

[cyke93]

HOW is that inconsistant with the comics as far as Logans feelings for jean arec oncerned?


I'm so happy for you crybabys:down

haha

[TromaFreak64]

HOW is that inconsistant with the comics as far as Logans feelings for jean arec oncerned?


I'm so happy for you crybabys:down

Hilarious...haha.,...that's great stuff.

[Kurosawa]

Quote:
"this movie is really about what role does he take. And as you know there is a huge shake up, you know, in the team fairly early on so will he step up or won't he? Because he is essentially a loner and essentially if something needs to be done he just does it himself and doesn't feel comfortable relying on anybody else"...

And:

The fact that he basically kills the woman he loves for the greater good, what do you think, just for the sake of speculation how do you think he would progress from that point on?

HJ: Well it's the ultimate heroic act. What he has done, it's really one of the themes of this movie, how far would you go for the woman you love or the person you love? And it's a complicated love, as you know, it's unrequited and even in this … so it's really, I love that about the film, I think at the end of this he's going to be as tortured and conflicted internally as he has ever been. Even though he has, kind of, heroically continually crossed that line of doing the greater good. So personally, I don't know, a lot of therapy I guess. It would be like Tony Soprano's version.

I think I'm gonna freaking throw up.

[terry78]

Wolverine in therapy. Didn't Whedon's first script of X1 feature Logan watching Oprah? Everything comes full circle.

[kevhulk73]

I think I'm gonna freaking throw up.


commence throwing up....BUH bye:rolleyes::cyclops:

[Kurosawa]

commence throwing up....BUH bye:rolleyes:

Whatever.

If it was your favorite character getting screwed over, you'd be pissed too. But Wolverine fans will never know what that is like.

[peteapan]

Whatever.

If it was your favorite character getting screwed over, you'd be pissed too. But Wolverine fans will never know what that is like.

So true. So very easy for people who dont love cyke to pass judgement over those who do. Respect the feeling of having a great character you have grown up with completely screwed over for no reason with no link to what happens in the source material, on top of that having one of the best actors in the damn franchise acting his guts out and stealing the small amount of scenes he is in only to have someone like Halle Berry who in the first two films totally misses storms essence come and take the leading role he has earned.

[cyke93]

why should they get annoyed at us, we may moan n ***** n complain but in the end of the day, they win.. cyclops dies early in the film and never seen again.

[Endeavor]

Whatever.

If it was your favorite character getting screwed over, you'd be pissed too. But Wolverine fans will never know what that is like.

They will if I get my chance to write for Marvel... mwaahahahaha ;)

[terry78]

why should they get annoyed at us, we may moan n ***** n complain but in the end of the day, they win.. cyclops dies early in the film and never seen again.
That's what we say about the republicans. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

I doulbt its too fool people - cant exactly have him as the odd one on the poster. And if he wasnt on there you'd al complain about that.

Okay newbie, I'm going to explain it to you.

Fox didn't start putting him in promo posters and pictures until they realized how popular he was. Everyone was hopeful that Cyclops would survive, that we would see him in the final battle, and once they saw the damage they create, all of a sudden we were seeing recent promo pictures that gave us plenty of hope.

Simon says Cyclops fans won't be disappointed. Then we realize exactly what is happening and it's evidently confirmed by reviews, storyboard pictures, and spoilers that they full on lied to us and played with our emotions.

Granted, I'd prefer for him to be in the final battle, but I also prefer not to be lied to and have my hopes raised and dashed by writers who won't stand up for a character they "love".

[Kurosawa]

So true. So very easy for people who dont love cyke to pass judgement over those who do. Respect the feeling of having a great character you have grown up with completely screwed over for no reason with no link to what happens in the source material, on top of that having one of the best actors in the damn franchise acting his guts out and stealing the small amount of scenes he is in only to have someone like Halle Berry who in the first two films totally misses storms essence come and take the leading role he has earned.
:up: :up:

[cyke93]

Okay newbie, I'm going to explain it to you.

Fox didn't start putting him in promo posters and pictures until they realized how popular he was. Everyone was hopeful that Cyclops would survive, that we would see him in the final battle, and once they saw the damage they create, all of a sudden we were seeing recent promo pictures that gave us plenty of hope.

Simon says Cyclops fans won't be disappointed. Then we realize exactly what is happening and it's evidently confirmed by reviews, storyboard pictures, and spoilers that they full on lied to us and played with our emotions.

Granted, I'd prefer for him to be in the final battle, but I also prefer not to be lied to and have my hopes raised and dashed by writers who won't stand up for a character they "love".

and thats basically the shadiest thing ever. the cover up and making us believe that he could come back. in the book and film, cyclops never puts on the uniform. it was understandable with jean in x2 (rremember the whitehouse pic) because her death was the END of the film and the circumstances surrounding her death (phoenix), it wasn't a big surprise that she would come back.

[Pizzaboy1138]

We never actually see what happens, so it will be assumed but never really known.



I just saw that clip of Wolverine asking Jean about what happened to Scott - and I think we can guess that the second we see Jean mentally crushing Scott's glasses, that she must have done the same to him.

[mustanger405]

question to Claremont

TXV: Would you agree that fans wishing to not have their movie experience spoiled should pick up the novelization after they have seen the movie? Or do you feel that it veers away from the film enough to not spoil any major surprises?

CC: Well, those who assumed the X-Men 2 novel was gospel got a big surprise at the last scenes in Canada. And the X3 crew was still shooting for quite a while after we had to lock the book. So I think it’s safe to say that anything’s possible. I think each version provides delights of its own and can be well enjoyed in and of itself.


I know this means nothing since many ppl saw the movie already....but what suprises u think he is referring to?

[ZombieONE]

wolverine is a midget

[cyke93]

question to Claremont

I know this means nothing since many ppl saw the movie already....but what suprises u think he is referring to?

well if there are still suprises left for people, then i am pretty sure it has nothing to do with cyclops

[Pizzaboy1138]

well if there are still suprises left for people, then i am pretty sure it has nothing to do with cyclops

When Mystique gets "cured", she morphes into her true form, which is Jim Carrey.

[ZombieONE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zombieONE/midget2.jpg

[Strgts]

I also prefer not to be lied to and have my hopes raised and dashed by writers who won't stand up for a character they "love".

They seemed to have lied about a few things not just about Cyclops. Which is why after this Movie I know I will never believe a damn word anyone working on ANY Movie says. Writers, Producers, Directors can kiss my white ass.

[Pizzaboy1138]

Which is why after this Movie I know I will never believe a damn word anyone working on ANY Movie says. Writers, Producers, Directors can kiss my white ass.

That's how I feel since Joss Whedon ruined BtVS.
It's all just money and lies.

[LastSunrise1981]

That's how I feel since Joss Whedon ruined BtVS.
It's all just money and lies.

Joss redeemed himself with Angel, so it's impossible for me to hate him. :up:

[Pizzaboy1138]

Joss redeemed himself with Angel, so it's impossible for me to hate him. :up:

You liked "beige Angel", "goddess Cordelia", ... and that end?

[JokerNick]

any news on Scott's fate yet???

[cyke93]

any news on Scott's fate yet???

According to the novels and to all early screenings of the film, Cyclops is a goner.

[JokerNick]

damn, I somehow and for some unknown reason was thinking we would get a different version where he's alive in the end.........

since Jean does die, again, in this film, I think it would be cool to have scott come back in X4, and he holds resentment against the x-men for killing Jean, and even more hatred against logna

[Octoberist]

If Cyclops comes back in X4, you'll know it's because of a public outcry, not because of creative storytelling process..

[JokerNick]

If Cyclops comes back in X4, you'll know it's because of a public outcry, not because of creative storytelling process..

true, but I think that would be a cool storyline, having cyclops turn on the x-men........... I know it doesn't follow the comics, but I know if I was put in his situation, logan would have a hole blasted through him quicker then you could blink your eyes

[Kurosawa]

That's how I feel since Joss Whedon ruined BtVS.
It's all just money and lies.

At least Buffy was his creation to ruin. That's how I look at it anyway.

[Pizzaboy1138]

At least Buffy was his creation to ruin. That's how I look at it anyway.

He killed it, because it took on a life of its own, which he could no longer fully control. That's my opinion anyway.

[LEX]

You liked "beige Angel", "goddess Cordelia", ... and that end?
Gosh, the second half of season four was horrible. :down

[tamron]

Is the guy at one end of the Miller Lite square table for the man rules Marsden? Looks like him or Guy Pearce...

No, that's Zen Gesner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0315143/). He starred in the Sinbad TV show in the late 90's. I recognized him immediately in that Miller Lite spot, because after seeing him in that show, I always thought he'd make a good Gambit.

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3491/zen8jg.gif

[LastSunrise1981]

You liked "beige Angel", "goddess Cordelia", ... and that end?

Well, no. But I'm talking about the Wolfram and Hart storyline and the end battle. The show has had some very emotional episodes and that's what seperated it from Buffy.

But the more I think about it, the more I wish Joss was selected to do X3 and maybe we could've gotten a better adaptation. I'll still see the movie and all, but at least with Joss, we know that Cyclops wouldn't bite the dust and if he did it would be in an heroic way.

[Strgts]

One of my Favorite Episodes of Angel was when Faith & Angelus was in Angels mind & eventually Angel & Angelus fought each other

[Pizzaboy1138]

But the more I think about it, the more I wish Joss was selected to do X3 and maybe we could've gotten a better adaptation. I'll still see the movie and all, but at least with Joss, we know that Cyclops wouldn't bite the dust and if he did it would be in an heroic way.

Depends. If Fox really told the writers to kill off Scott in the first 15 minutes, I'm pretty sure Joss would have done it.
It would have been very hard to tell a good story about Scott, make the audience care about him - and kill him in an heroic way - and all that in 15 minutes.

[Radagast_Prime]

Well, no. But I'm talking about the Wolfram and Hart storyline and the end battle. The show has had some very emotional episodes and that's what seperated it from Buffy.

But the more I think about it, the more I wish Joss was selected to do X3 and maybe we could've gotten a better adaptation. I'll still see the movie and all, but at least with Joss, we know that Cyclops wouldn't bite the dust and if he did it would be in an heroic way.

Maybe thats why Joss wasn't chosen, because he would given Cyke some respect.

[Maze]

Well the official reason that Joss gave is that he didn't wan't to do this movie with this shedule..Apparently,he tried to find a compromise .they didn't accept it.

[CapBeerCino]

I didn't watch any of the clips but I wont be able to sit in the cinema and watch Jean break Scott's glasses! Im tearing up just thinking about it!
If that is the case Im wishing this film the honor reserved to only few (such as water world and B&R) I wish for all of the suits to feel our pain.

[taintedFB]

Hey,

This film still looks good. But we should all sign and circulate that petition to FOX so that he can return if there's an X4.

I think the fact that we never see him die is very telling...

[ShadesOfRedd]

I didn't watch any of the clips but I wont be able to sit in the cinema and watch Jean break Scott's glasses! Im tearing up just thinking about it!
If that is the case Im wishing this film the honor reserved to only few (such as water world and B&R) I wish for all of the suits to feel our pain.

I saw the clip and while it's touching in a way whatever parts that touch me is just blown away at the thought that either before or after it Jean and Logan make out. :down

[Maze]

I don't wan't any X4.

there have been already too much damage ..

Who know what they will do next? scott will become a zombie? (i kid , but you know here i'm going there)

I say that this serie should end..at least with dignity.

[terry78]

Jean - Logan, I miss Scott so much.

Logan - Yeah, yeah...great loss to us all, real stand up guy....now, I'm noticing you're wearing those clingy boy shorts again...

[The Original Bamfer]

Y'all know there's three alternate endings? Look at Nell's theory - it sums it all...

[ShadesOfRedd]

Y'all know there's three alternate endings? Look at Nell's theory - it sums it all...

I read it and while it makes sense I don't want to get my hopes up again.

[taintedFB]

All we need at this point is hope that he didn't die from a kiss of death...

We'll find out. Honestly, I think this should be the last movie, too. With Scott and Jean gone, the movies won't be the same. Nobody can replace those characters...

I am hopeful that maybe at the very end of the end credits, the fans will be let in on the fact that Scott survived, EVEN if he doesn't return to the team...

Again, FOX would be REALLY STUPID to kill him off like the AICN script after all the outrage its caused...

Maybe we should have done a petition back then?

[ShadesOfRedd]

All we need at this point is hope that he didn't die from a kiss of death...

We'll find out. Honestly, I think this should be the last movie, too. With Scott and Jean gone, the movies won't be the same. Nobody can replace those characters...

Not as far as FOX is concerned. Seems like Logan can play every role according to them?

[JokerNick]

I don't wan't any X4.

there have been already too much damage ..

Who know what they will do next? scott will become a zombie? (i kid , but you know here i'm going there)

I say that this serie should end..at least with dignity.

dignity will go flying out the window once we see "logan" save Jean at the end........... :o

[Maze]

I know Bamfer , and i don't believe on it..

Fox wouldn't bring him back for the moment..they showed how much they didn't have any respect for him already.


anyways , even if that happen , i would find it even more ridiculous..In some way ,i 've already seen it in X2 , and that is becoming a running joke imo.

I say , that they should stop to make fun of the character.

that they let Scott rest in peace.

[CapBeerCino]

This film still looks good.

I have to disagree. The trailers look great but the Wolverine vs Sentinel clip was such a let down for me and I believe it was a taste of what's to come. I'll be smarter after the 26th though.
And I agree with Maze - I dont want x-4 I had enough gloom over the last couple of weeks to last me for years.

[Maze]

dignity will go flying out the window once we see "logan" save Jean at the end........... :o

Hi nick :)
lol agreed , but you know ..following it with ressurection etc ..i should have

said that they should stop before they have not any dignity at all;)

[Jessie]

dignity will go flying out the window once we see "logan" save Jean at the end........... :o

Ugh, don't remind me. That's such crap

[Pizzaboy1138]

at the thought that either before or after it Jean and Logan make out. :down

What's that about anyway?
And please, nobody tell me that's the Phoenix rising, or whatever.

[Maze]

I have to disagree. The trailers look great but the Wolverine vs Sentinel clip was such a let down for me and I believe it was a taste of what's to come. I'll be smarter after the 26th though.
.
I agree.

[The Original Bamfer]

I know Bamfer , and i don't believe on it..

Fox wouldn't bring him back for the moment..they showed how much they didn't have any respect for him already.


anyways , even if that happen , i would find it even more ridiculous..In some way ,i 've already seen it in X2 , and that is becoming a running joke imo.

I say , that they should stop to make fun of the character.

that they let Scott rest in peace.

I kindly disagree. :O

It wouldn't be Scott, dying, and coming back again - it would be a mystery where he was. From what I can tell, it only seems like he may die, but its uncertain. I think the movie makers made it questionable in the first place! But anyway, it'd be revealed that he never died, at all, but whatever. I think it would be a triumphant return for Scott - to save the ones he loves, and to be a leader. Especially if his first couple scenes rock, this could make his character and performance that much better.

Let me ask you... Why do you think the script review didn't contain the third act? Why doesn't the movie's press screenings and previews have no major variations from the script review? Why were we told there'd be so much change? Because I think they are STILL holding out. We have found proof. Just like, months ago, when we wanted to know the storyline in the script - we got it, we got Cyke's crappy death - for a reason. Now we want to know the movie, and we still know about Cyke's crappy death... They know this is upsetting fans, they knew it when the script review was out, and now when the early screenings have been reviewed. They WANT us to be surprised.

[JokerNick]

Hi nick :)
lol agreed , but you know ..following it with ressurection etc ..i should have

said that they should stop before they have not any dignity at all;)

sup maze

the only way I would like to see cyke come back is if he killed logan....... having him all pissed that he killed his true love (not to mention Logan falling for her without him knowing her more then a week, someones desperate???)..........

[CapBeerCino]

They know this is upsetting fans, they knew it when the script review was out, and now when the early screenings have been reviewed. They WANT us to be surprised.

Yes, and they don't care. Did you read the Patrick Stewart interview?
There is no hope tob.
Reading your posts is a painful reminder of how ridiculous are all of the decisions fox made.
The truth was out there in the very first teaser yet we didn't accept it.

[The Original Bamfer]

Yes, and they don't care. Did you read the Patrick Stewart interview?
There is no hope tob.
Reading your posts is a painful reminder of how ridiculous are all of the decisions fox made.
The truth was out there in the very first teaser yet we didn't accept it.

Where does anything Stewart say convey Scott's official demise?

[ShadesOfRedd]

Yes, and they don't care. Did you read the Patrick Stewart interview?
There is no hope tob.
Reading your posts is a painful reminder of how ridiculous are all of the decisions fox made.
The truth was out there in the very first teaser yet we didn't accept it.

What did he say in his interview?

[Maze]

I kindly disagree. :O

It wouldn't be Scott, dying, and coming back again - it would be a mystery where he was. From what I can tell, it only seems like he may die, but its uncertain. I think the movie makers made it questionable in the first place! But anyway, it'd be revealed that he never died, at all, but whatever. I think it would be a triumphant return for Scott - to save the ones he loves, and to be a leader. Especially if his first couple scenes rock, this could make his character and performance that much better.

Let me ask you... Why do you think the script review didn't contain the third act? Why doesn't the movie's press screenings and previews have no major variations from the script review? Why were we told there'd be so much change? Because I think they are STILL holding out. We have found proof. Just like, months ago, when we wanted to know the storyline in the script - we got it, we got Cyke's crappy death - for a reason. Now we want to know the movie, and we still know about Cyke's crappy death... They know this is upsetting fans, they knew it when the script review was out, and now when the early screenings have been reviewed. They WANT us to be surprised.
:)

i like it for sure , but imo that's sadly doubful speculation Bamfer ..i don't see fox doing two ends just to surprise fans(and i'm not talking about the "surprise " wink wink ridiculous after credits ending there).i don't see Fox "lying" to the press . they need them .if Fox wanted to do things right for the fans(but ironically, also for the press as we can see in a lot of reviews they would have more chance to have much more critics in they "pocket" with a longer running time ) they would do it not just with cyke , but with all the characters :the movie will have at least 30 minutes more of running time .

but they don't care.they just wan't a "dramatic" movie with the popular wolverine , that will have as many showing as they can..(and Simon can tell what he wants..he has already lied enough)

i don't wan't to be right Bamfer ,i'd love you to be.. but again prepare yourself to see Logan "save" Cyke..

[JokerNick]

What did he say in his interview?

the interviewer asked him about Scotts death scene, and he said someone about it being close to xaviers, but you don't see the body, so he could come back for x4, scott that is

[CapBeerCino]

Where does anything Stewart say convey Scott's official demise?

Not his demise, but him not returning in x-3 even though "there was no body".
Yippy no body. The relief.

[CapBeerCino]

What did he say in his interview?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232131

[The Original Bamfer]

Not his demise, but him not returning in x-3 even though "there was no body".
Yippy no body. The relief.

Yeah, not a body when Storm and Logan got there. Gosh, Stewart probably wasn't around if they did shoot a secret scene for Cyclops. He's dead half way through the movie.

[JokerNick]

I guess I don't get why Fox would go to all this trouble to have a non-popular movie character's outcome be a secret?? and when I say non-popular, I'm only talking about cyclops in the movie, Logan is the favorite in these movies, no one can deny this, Cyclops isn't even in the top 5, the general audience doens't really care that much about him, they see him as Logan's opposite, and non-comic book readers (most of the audience) wants to see Logan end up with Jean....

[ginny_weasley]

I didn't watch any of the clips but I wont be able to sit in the cinema and watch Jean break Scott's glasses! Im tearing up just thinking about it!
If that is the case Im wishing this film the honor reserved to only few (such as water world and B&R) I wish for all of the suits to feel our pain.

Actually I watched the clip with her breaking the glasses and must say it was IMHO very good: it really conveyed how crushed Jean was when she realized what she had done to Scott. Scott got screwed over, yes, but at least it looks like they got the impact of his death on Jean right. It looks like it will be pretty clear her madness is the result of Scott's death.

[JokerNick]

Actually I watched the clip with her breaking the glasses and must say it was IMHO very good: it really conveyed how crushed Jean was when she realized what she had done to Scott. Scott got screwed over, yes, but at least it looks like they got the impact of his death on Jean right. It looks like it will be pretty clear her madness is the result of Scott's death.

that *****!!!!! those are expensive glasses!!!!!

[CapBeerCino]

Actually I watched the clip with her breaking the glasses and must say it was IMHO very good: it really conveyed how crushed Jean was when she realized what she had done to Scott. Scott got screwed over, yes, but at least it looks like they got the impact of his death on Jean right. It looks like it will be pretty clear her madness is the result of Scott's death.

Little comfort but thanx. :up: :(

[TromaFreak64]

I can't believe all this in the film....but why is PS giving away so much? Even addressing Jimmy's role and his "future" in the franchise and possibilities...

[GambitXremy]

what u mean tromafreak64

[ginny_weasley]

I can't believe all this in the film....but why is PS giving away so much? Even addressing Jimmy's role and his "future" in the franchise and possibilities...

What bugs me is that now all of a sudden it's okay to give up the details of Scott's death, even though we know Fox went out of its way to deceive of after the AICN report by giving us all kinds of promo pics of Scott suited up.

It just really pisses me off: I wished they'd just leveled with us all along.

[taintedFB]

I think Scott's death will remain somewhat mysterious in this film and hopefully whoever does X4 capitalizes on that and brings him back. I think it would be a great way to introduce Sinister as the new villain in the series...

And expand their cultural commentary to genetics, cloning, and DNA manipulation, etc...

[taintedFB]

I think there's still the possibility of a final cut with some surprises.... it's a REMOTE possibility, but until the movie officially premieres (I believe its the 24th) things can change...

And if they don't, let's just hope that Scott's death haunts the rest of the characters and this movie and is still somewhat questionable.

At least Jimmy's performance is going to be awesome, and in such a short movie, maybe his role won't feel so small. Even in reviews, its stated that Rogue, NOT Scott, has the least screentime...

I will hold off on judgement until I see the movie... so far, it still looks good...

[CapBeerCino]

What bugs me is that now all of a sudden it's okay to give up the details of Scott's death, even though we know Fox went out of its way to deceive of after the AICN report by giving us all kinds of promo pics of Scott suited up.

It just really pisses me off: I wished they'd just leveled with us all along.

Yeah, we saw in the teaser what we read in the aicn but Simon kept saying "spoiler" people really got their hopes high. What was that good for?

[ginny_weasley]

This is a little OT, but I feel it sorta applies to Scott's situation...so...

What do you guys think of the decision culminate the trilogy with such a tragic and "downer" of a storyline? Don't get me wrong, the Dark Phoenix Saga is good stuff, but it's kind of sad way to go out, especially now that we have the added deaths of Scott and Xavier.

I hate to sound like someone who wants things to be all "happy-ending" when it comes to these movies, but it's really the truth - they're pretty light-hearted in general and I wouldn't have even minded an X3 with no deaths at all: with a Jean that is cured. But instead of ending on just one tragic death, we now have three...it just seems like overkill - and it is really gonna leave taint on the trilogy in general: instead of resolution, we just get utter tragedy.

[ginny_weasley]

Yeah, we saw in the teaser what we read in the aicn but Simon kept saying "spoiler" people really got their hopes high. What was that good for?

Yeah, every little Scott question got that spoiler answer: even the ones about the suit. It gave the impression that we were gonna see a nice surprise....:mad:

[CapBeerCino]

This is a little OT, but I feel it sorta applies to Scott's situation...so...

What do you guys think of the decision culminate the trilogy with such a tragic and "downer" of a storyline? Don't get me wrong, the Dark Phoenix Saga is good stuff, but it's kind of sad way to go out, especially now that we have the added deaths of Scott and Xavier.

I hate to sound like someone who wants things to be all "happy-ending" when it comes to these movies, but it's really the truth - they're pretty light-hearted in general and I wouldn't have even minded an X3 with no deaths at all: with a Jean that is cured. But instead of ending on just one tragic death, we now have three...it just seems like overkill - and it is really gonna leave taint on the trilogy in general: instead of resolution, we just get utter tragedy.

That is so true! I love reading your posts - it's like you can read my thoughts (and then phrase them well...) :up:

[Retroman]

Just see a commercial on RTL 5 here promoting X2 X-Men United's tv debut on Sunday. At the end they showed another short spot for a Harley V-Rod competition which showed a guy (wearing a biker suit) riding over a desert (looked american) on the bike.I'm not sure if this is promo footage or movie footage. Anyone seen this?:confused:

[taintedFB]

I agree about ending the series on such a tragic note. The writers said it would end sad but hopeful...where do they see hope?

Jean is dead. Scott is dead. And Xaveir MIGHT be possessing a new body? Is that supposed to give us hope? It just cheapens the whole thing!

If Scott returns to lead the school, or even returns to say goodbye and leave, then there's hope.

Nobody wants X4: Logan and Storm vs. The World! We want the team!

Right now its just so heavy and tragic and annoying that Scott's death isn;t getting the attention it deserves. Maybe the third ending is Scott alive somewhere? Maybe Fox got the message but didn't wat to spoil it for hardcore fans?

Like I said, until the official premiere on the 24th, the cut can still be changed... Right now these are all screenings and previews...

I'm hoping once its final we'll see the Phoenix flames AND Scott's survival...

[ginny_weasley]

That is so true! I love reading your posts - it's like you can read my thoughts (and then phrase them well...) :up:

Thanks :up: I enjoy your posts too. And it's good to have another girl out there to relate with.

Yeah, it's really the lack of resolution this time around that seems to compound the tragedy and sadness of this film. I feel like watched in its fullness the trilogy will go like this:
- here's Wolverine. He's sad and lonely. Finds something of a community, but in the end the chick he has feelings for up and dies - he knew his love was unrequited but he never got to work it out with her. So in the end he's back where he started: a sad and lonely man.
- here's Jean. She's got a nice life at the mansion and digs her man. Then she dies, comes back to life, kills her boyfriend, goes crazy and dies again. What a shame. She was nice.
- here's Scott. He watched Jean die the first time and was crushed. He gets a couple minutes happiness when she is resurrected, then kicks it. He might as well have died with her the first time because apparently her death left him a shell of a man anyways. He and Logan never got along and were both threatened by one another, but owell, it's never resolved be Scott dies.
- here's Xavier. He leads the good mutants. Tries to help Jean when she goes crazy, but she kills him. Storm gets to give a funeral oration. Then everyone forgets about him.

[Maze]

This is a little OT, but I feel it sorta applies to Scott's situation...so...

What do you guys think of the decision culminate the trilogy with such a tragic and "downer" of a storyline? Don't get me wrong, the Dark Phoenix Saga is good stuff, but it's kind of sad way to go out, especially now that we have the added deaths of Scott and Xavier.

I hate to sound like someone who wants things to be all "happy-ending" when it comes to these movies, but it's really the truth - they're pretty light-hearted in general and I wouldn't have even minded an X3 with no deaths at all: with a Jean that is cured. But instead of ending on just one tragic death, we now have three...it just seems like overkill - and it is really gonna leave taint on the trilogy in general: instead of resolution, we just get utter tragedy.

yup , personnaly i'm a big fan of tragedy in general (beginning with the greek tragedys ..and the Shakespearian ones ..i don't know if you read about them , but there is often a huge body count ) but it doesn't seem forced , i dunno unnatural like there...i mean i had this feeling that it was overdone , that they were going for shock value since the aicn review , and nothing that i've read lately reassured me.

The fact that they are ready to do resurection confort me in the idea of the non integrity of their ideas.

They don't have even the balls to really do it.that's why i'm sure that if there is an X4 Scott will come back in one way or another..

Nothing has real consequences.

[CapBeerCino]

He and Logan never got along and were both threatened by one another, but owell, it's never resolved be Scott dies.

That was one of my favorite aspects - I wanted to see the challenging team work in x-3, but they chose the easy way and killed the guy who threatened the star.

[CapBeerCino]

Maze - can't you just pay Cannes a visit and let us know how's x-3? The wait is killing me! :p

[Maze]

Lol i would like to .But i will work when they will show the movie.

anyways , one should have invitation .

I will tell you about X3 on the 24th :o :up:

[CapBeerCino]

Lol i would like to .But i will work when they will show the movie.

anyways , one should have invitation .

I will tell you about X3 on the 24th :o :up:

It opens on the 24th in France?

[Maze]

Yup :o

[taintedFB]

24th is also the official US premiere , red carpet, etc...

[ginny_weasley]

yup , personnaly i'm a big fan of tragedy in general (beginning with the greek tragedys ..and the Shakespearian ones ..i don't know if you read about them , but there is often a huge body count ) but it doesn't seem forced , i dunno unnatural like there...i mean i had this feeling that it was overdone , that they were going for shock value since the aicn review , and nothing that i've read lately reassured me.

The fact that they are ready to do resurection confort me in the idea of the non integrity of their ideas.

They don't have even the balls to really do it.that's why i'm sure that if there is an X4 Scott will come back in one way or another..

Nothing has real consequences.

Oh yes, I too like tragedy (total Shakespeare nut). Sometimes I think the Bard goes into overkill himself (like you said - huge bodycount), but there's always a reason for the tragedy: that's what tragedy is all about: someone makes a single bad call due to a personal character flaw and all hell breaks lose.

But here, there's no 'bad call', no real 'mistake'. Now, technically there wasn't in the original storyline either. But the original wasn't really a tragedy IMHO: it was a story of self-sacrifice (Jean's suicide) and love.

I suppose part of the problem with the movies is that we already got the self-sacrifice of Jean in X2.

But that's where Scott and Xavier don't fit. There's nothing 'tragic' about their deaths in the traditional model: they just die for the sake of making things sad and driving Jean crazier.

Part of the 'redemptive' element of the traditional tragedy is that the audience can relate to the protagonist, but how can we relate to Jean? She's a super-powerful crazy mutant - she's not even the 'real Jean' in the sense that she's so far gone. In the end, she doesn't even come to accept her death - Wolverine just takes her out like an obstacle.

I guess what I'm getting at is that there is ZERO character development this time around. Scott is depressed then dies - where's the resolution there? Xavier tries to help Jean and she kills him - so his role is pretty much nil. Wolverine gets some development when it comes to realizing that he has to take out the woman he loves, but that's it. There's no development for Jean, because she is essentially crazy this time around - in the end, it's like she might as well have just stayed dead for the all effect her resurrection has on the personalities of those around her.

Like you said: nothing has consequences.

[CapBeerCino]

24th is also the official US premiere , red carpet, etc...

Where in the us?

[Pizzaboy1138]

http://www.thexverse.com/gallery_image.php?image=873&parent=15

Caption: James Marsden as Cyclops prepares to unleash an optic blast in a scene from X-Men: The Last Stand.

Copyright: © Kerry Hayes / 20th Century Fox

[taintedFB]

I don't know where the US premiere will be. My guesses are LA or NY.

[Retroman]

Jeez...can someone please answer my question?:confused:

[DarknessOfDeath]

no one has seen it, sorry retroman. :confused:

[taintedFB]

Okay, back to Cyclops...

Given James Marsden's limited availablility, what would you have done with Cyclops if you were writing X3?

I would have had him badly injured at the lake an thought dead. Actually, been picked up by someone and in a coma. I think when Jean kills Xavier, their psychic link snaps him out of the coma, and he shows up during the final battle and he's the one who ultimately kills her, only after she begs him to. Logan, meanwhile can kill Juggs AND Magneto.

[The Batman]

Check my "What would you do with X3" thread for my answer

[LastSunrise1981]

Okay, back to Cyclops...

Given James Marsden's limited availablility, what would you have done with Cyclops if you were writing X3?

I would have had him badly injured at the lake an thought dead. Actually, been picked up by someone and in a coma. I think when Jean kills Xavier, their psychic link snaps him out of the coma, and he shows up during the final battle and he's the one who ultimately kills her, only after she begs him to. Logan, meanwhile can kill Juggs AND Magneto.

If I were a writer/director, I'd work around the scheduling conflicts and write in a way for him to appear at the end battle.

I would have him be shock/traumatized to see Jean alive and either be severely injured at the lake, or due to his shock and fear, he goes into a catatonic silence and people are having a hard time getting through to him.

Eventually Xavier or Jean could or would snap him out of it, and he would appear giving the speech that Wolverine is giving to Iceman, Kitty, and Colossus.

I also would have him standing exactly where Wolverine is standing. No way would I let a studio suit or a CEO intimidate me with "parameters". I say screw parameters and give not only myself, but the fans what they need and what they deserve to see, and that's Cyclops leading the X-Men into an apocalyptic final battle.

[Retroman]

no one has seen it, sorry retroman. :confused:
Aaah:( I want to know if thats James on the bike cause it looks like a cool scene.

[taintedFB]

Why would James be in a Harley Competition ad? I doubt its him.

Besides, he rides to Alkali Lake, not in the desert...

[fallenAngel]

I guess I don't get why Fox would go to all this trouble to have a non-popular movie character's outcome be a secret?? and when I say non-popular, I'm only talking about cyclops in the movie, Logan is the favorite in these movies, no one can deny this, Cyclops isn't even in the top 5, the general audience doens't really care that much about him, they see him as Logan's opposite, and non-comic book readers (most of the audience) wants to see Logan end up with Jean....

I think the funny thing about this whole general Audiences didn't like cyclops thing is that they perhaps liked Storm even less. No body I've known who's seen the movie gave a damn about Storm, she was boring........an yet. I think one reason why people "don't like" cyclops is he's not as easily labeled as someone like Wolverine, who is the loner bad ass. People have been trained to like the Han Solo more than the Luke Skywalker. (Even though Scott is much cooler than Luke.)

Also Cyclops is the only person in the comics who repeatedly stood up to Logan. He was strong enough not to take his crap. And we sure as heck can't have that in the movies. He is a strong enough character to give Logan a run for his money, to have him fight for the spotlight, and so they kill him off.

I don't want him to return in x4, but I would like to see Havok come in and honor the memory of Scott better. I want Storm to struggle very hard to be a great leader and not be able to rely on Wolverine. And possibly Sinister to be pissed that his precious Summers is no longer around. I want Scotts death to wreak havok (no pun) over the X men in ways they didn't imagine. That's the only way I can see them giving him more of a purpose without resorting to cheap gimics.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Actually Jean and Logan never end up with each other in the end... so im okay with that. Atleast when Jean dies, she'll be with her Scott. :O :O ... but who the hell knows... Scott may not be dead since we don't see his death/body on screen...we'll see on may 26th.

[MsNatchios]

Whatever.

If it was your favorite character getting screwed over, you'd be pissed too. But Wolverine fans will never know what that is like.
Yeah kevvy boy's throwing a hissy fit right now that some fans are not digging his man-god Wolverine. Imagine how he'd feel if he had a whole studio against him?

[cyke93]

just saw the commercial for x3 during that 70's show. jean is lying down and says something bout blushing and then she whips off logan's belt .. and thats how the commercial ended ..luckily i dint eat dinner yet, or else it wouldve gotten ugly

[Endeavor]

Lol

[Knightsaber Priss]

Yeah kevvy boy's throwing a hissy fit right now that some fans are not digging his man-god Wolverine. Imagine how he'd feel if he had a whole studio against him?

I think Cyclops will be back in some way, shape and form. Maybe they can get their first pick, James Caviezel to play Cyclops if James Marsden burned the bridge too badly. I know it sounds harsh but the show must go on, but I would have hoped instead of giving Cyke the old shaft they'd recast him. But that may have set filming back on the other hand. I guess it's a lose/lose situation for Cyke fans. I know how you all must feel. I was slightly disappointed by the way Sabertooth was handled in the first movie, with nary a mention of his connection to Wolverine and Weapon X. They didn't even make verbal reference to it in X2.

[Endeavor]

I don't know at this point if I would like to see another X-Men movie done, especially if it's by FOX... but even if it were I doubt it would come out in less than 4 years. Wouldn't Caviezel be too old to play Cyclops by then?

[hue]

Hey,

This film still looks good. But we should all sign and circulate that petition to FOX so that he can return if there's an X4.

I think the fact that we never see him die is very telling...

Why does it take signing a petition for them to do justice to the material and to the LEADER? Isn't Cyke pretty much established in the books? Why must we beg for them to follow the books more closely? Bad enough they re-wrote God Loves/Man Kills and cut Cyke out of it. But the Pheonix/Dark Pheonix saga? Is there any bigger story? Oh yes, the one they are thinking about doing next. Days of Future Past. And Cyke isn't even in that story. How convenient.

[Pizzaboy1138]

Maybe they can get their first pick, James Caviezel to play Cyclops if James Marsden burned the bridge too badly.

What's wrong with James?
He wasn't requested when he signed for Superman.
Who knew that those FOXers would act like spoiled babies.

[cyke93]

i'm sorry but cyke is gone. it's clear that they only saw cyclops as the boyscout/borring/dull cyclops and thats how they played him, thats y audiences never really cared too much about him. and they dont care bout his character either. they're prolly so relieved that they dont have to deal with him anymore.

[hue]

I don't wan't any X4.

there have been already too much damage ..

Who know what they will do next? scott will become a zombie? (i kid , but you know here i'm going there)

I say that this serie should end..at least with dignity.

What dignity? Anyway, I think Marvel should take it back and do it themselves. No guarantee they will do any better, but it's a better chance with someone else. Too much damage has been done. Too many major changes. No history on Sabertooth/Wolverine. The leader in the background. Relationships that don't belong such as Rogue,Iceman, Kitty, which means there will not be a Rogue/Gambit, or Kitty/Colossus, now Wolverine is leading the team, and a dead Cyke and on and on. Believe me, I won't be able to stomach any more radical changes, and won't be going to see this one, and after collecting the books for over 20 years. X-men needs a home where they are motivated by a strong respect for the material. Ultimate Avengers was pretty close to the books in that regard and I strongly believe they would treat the X-Men in the same way.

[Hulkster]

I buyed and borrowed lots of X-men comic books since I was a kid and I always dreamed of the X-men having a live action movie, but now, I think I will stop for a while because I'm really pissed off. Fox messed up the X-movies big time.

[hue]

I buyed and borrowed lots of X-men comic books since I was a kid and I always dreamed of the X-men having a live action movie, but now, I think I will stop for a while because I'm really pissed off. Fox messed up the X-movies big time.
I stopped after x-1. The books changed then.

[ShadesOfRedd]

I just buy the Ultimate X-Men comics now. Or old X-Men issues.

[Hulkster]

I lost my interest too since X2 when they humiliate Cyclops but I still buy some comics. But now they won't be getting any money from me.

[Cyclops-Lives]

I think Cyclops will be back in some way, shape and form. Maybe they can get their first pick, James Caviezel to play Cyclops if James Marsden burned the bridge too badly. I know it sounds harsh but the show must go on, but I would have hoped instead of giving Cyke the old shaft they'd recast him. But that may have set filming back on the other hand. I guess it's a lose/lose situation for Cyke fans. I know how you all must feel. I was slightly disappointed by the way Sabertooth was handled in the first movie, with nary a mention of his connection to Wolverine and Weapon X. They didn't even make verbal reference to it in X2.



I dont think James Cavaziel would be a good idea I mean he doesn't even look it. James Marsden just has to stop signing on doing other movies.

[hue]

I just buy the Ultimate X-Men comics now. Or old X-Men issues.

I started Ultimate X, but got turned off a bit cause it showed Wolverine making big time with Jean early on. Kind of going along with where it seemed x-1 was leading, and confirmed in that x3 scene.

[Hulkster]

I don't like James Caviezel, James Marsden is the best for Cyclops. Is it true that they are planning for an X4?

[Endeavor]

*sigh*

Nevermind

[The Original Bamfer]

Its sad that y'all can't even wait until after you see the movie to ***** about stuff. Seriously. See the movie and stop sitting here... If he dies when you watch it, come and complain (a bit)m but until then - try not to spoil a thread dedicated to a good character with "Wolverine sucks" and "Fox ruined this" or "Stupid Halle," etc... its redundant and annoying. I know the small pool of you like it, because it makes you feel better. But stop being ridiculous.

[Radagast_Prime]

What dignity? Anyway, I think Marvel should take it back and do it themselves. No guarantee they will do any better, but it's a better chance with someone else. Too much damage has been done. Too many major changes. No history on Sabertooth/Wolverine. The leader in the background. Relationships that don't belong such as Rogue,Iceman, Kitty, which means there will not be a Rogue/Gambit, or Kitty/Colossus, now Wolverine is leading the team, and a dead Cyke and on and on. Believe me, I won't be able to stomach any more radical changes, and won't be going to see this one, and after collecting the books for over 20 years. X-men needs a home where they are motivated by a strong respect for the material. Ultimate Avengers was pretty close to the books in that regard and I strongly believe they would treat the X-Men in the same way.
:up: :up: :up: :up:

[hue]

I dont think James Cavaziel would be a good idea I mean he doesn't even look it. James Marsden just has to stop signing on doing other movies.

They never had any real intent for Cyke in X3. There are doubles, voice overs, blue screen/green screens whatever, cgi, and many ways he could have been incorporated into the film. They found time for reshoots. It was never written for him, but for Wolverine and Storm. His limited schedule could have been devoted to including him in the final battle, or other key scenes. He didn't have a limited schedule for x2, and the wrote him out of that one also.

[ShadesOfRedd]

I started Ultimate X, but got turned off a bit cause it showed Wolverine making big time with Jean early on. Kind of going along with where it seemed x-1 was leading, and confirmed in that x3 scene.

I wouldn't have stuck with it if it stayed that way. Ultimate X has the best Scott/Jean cover in my opinion.

[Hulkster]

James Marsden has all the time in X2 but he was given a very little screentime.

[hue]

Its sad that y'all can't even wait until after you see the movie to ***** about stuff. Seriously. See the movie and stop sitting here... If he dies when you watch it, come and complain (a bit)m but until then - try not to spoil a thread dedicated to a good character with "Wolverine sucks" and "Fox ruined this" or "Stupid Halle," etc... its redundant and annoying. I know the small pool of you like it, because it makes you feel better. But stop being ridiculous.

Perhaps you should allow people to voice their own opinions.

[Eros]

perhaps you should take your own advice Hue.

[Louie_19_Tx_]

I am rememebring al lthe comci's/cartoon i saw of x-me nand book's i saw yesderday at a boo kstore and re watching X1 and 2 I realsie like Hugh Jackman,marsden did the charcter justic, I mean to me Woulverine and cyclop's movie version is near perfect like the comic bersion's , idont know why people say he is complaing in whining, when he actualy dosent whine and *****, Marsden does look like scott, his personality,interactino with logan, the leadership (X1) he is definatly Cyclop's,Sux that he die's in x3 i mean if they gonna kill him, atlest make it a dramatic thing and let him die i nthe final battle and be killed by jean but not in the beginning, it wouldve had more shock value cause we would see pic's of him through out the film and think he actauly save's the day and has good roel i nthis fil mand u go see it and all of a suden u see him die and i nhis uniform in honor, not in the start of the film in street cloth;s

[Knightsaber Priss]

I dont think James Cavaziel would be a good idea I mean he doesn't even look it. James Marsden just has to stop signing on doing other movies.

Well, little do you know that he was set to play Cyclops in the first movie until he backed out for whatever reason. And I don't think anyone is too old to play a character if they can look like the appropriate age. Gabrielle Carteris was in her 30's and she was still paying a teenager in Beverly Hills 90210. You guys seem to think anyone over 30 is ancient? Well, I guess at 33 I'm over the hill to you guys.

[Mike059jig]

James Cavaziel was up for Superman and Cyclops..Singer didn't want want him i guess..Twice wow..

[taintedFB]

Hulkster, your sig looks awfully familiar....hehehe, LOL.

From what I've heard Fox is capitalizing on the big names at this point, which is a big mistake, because these movies are not about the actors!

Marsden isn't a big enough star, so they push him aside for the NAMES!

I hope this is the last X-Men, but if its not, I hope they bring back Cyclops.

I think they're leaving everything open ended. The fact that they resurrect Xavier means they realize they have a good movie here and they need to at least allow for the possibility of more.

Again, we never see Cyclops die, and Jean's schizo so I doubt she even remembers what happened, she's assuming just lke the audience...

I think that's their way of having an out to bring him back.

Either way, this movie is going to be GREAT! If Cyke was in it more it would be PERFECT!!!! But alas, we'll settle for great...