View Full Version : Official Cyclops/marsden Thread
JTStarkiller
05-29-2006, 01:25 AM
She understood then.
Haha, that's a great way to put it. I feel like I'm in your exact position, since my girlfriend seemed to have no problems with the Cyclops storyline. I was shouting obscenities in the theater during the credits, and she told me to quiet down. :)
Cyclops has just been completely disregarded since X2. Now that the trilogy is over (supposedly), all I think is that I'll never get to see him like the badass he is, tearing **** apart with his optic blast. Oh how cool it would have been for him to show up in the final battle and just kick the **** out of those pawns.
Oh well.
Optic Blast
05-29-2006, 01:29 AM
Yeah, and did anyone else feel like the epic "war" between the mutants just looked like a bunch of Road Warrior rejects punching the X-Men? Where were all the powers? It just seemed a little . . . mundane for the mutant on mutant action we heard was going to be in it.
JTStarkiller
05-29-2006, 01:31 AM
Where were all the powers?
Again, I agree with you. I asked my girlfriend the EXACT same thing.
Optic Blast
05-29-2006, 01:34 AM
I guess since Callisto said that of all the mutants in that room, Magneto and Pyro were the only two above a level 3. I guess 3 and below are pretty friggin' useless powers. That, and there were a ton of mutants that could jump really high. I guess the Brotherhood's mutant powers were to suck and die.
JTStarkiller
05-29-2006, 01:37 AM
Yeah, that was her answer as well, since Magneto said the pawns go first. I was thinking maybe they've got the really crappy powers, like they can swap their ears, or something stupid like that.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3116/xmenthreever171cd.jpg
Sniff. Dunno if that's old? More character posters on impawards.com.
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 01:42 AM
(not like that, you sick puppies)
How did you know? :p
Optic Blast
05-29-2006, 01:46 AM
:cyclops: Wondered if you would catch that. I've seen your posts before, CapBeerCino. :)
martinbluther
05-29-2006, 01:48 AM
I guess since Callisto said that of all the mutants in that room, Magneto and Pyro were the only two above a level 3. I guess 3 and below are pretty friggin' useless powers. That, and there were a ton of mutants that could jump really high. I guess the Brotherhood's mutant powers were to suck and die.
That's EXACTLY what I thought, too... I really think once the "new" wears off on this film, people will ridicule it for so many things like that, things that the good writing and characterization of the first two made up for... so many wrongs in this film, but the treatment of Cyke being split up between Storm and Logan is the worst...
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 01:56 AM
:cyclops: Wondered if you would catch that. I've seen your posts before, CapBeerCino. :)
I don't recall discriminating posts...:confused: Oh well :p
MutantMetalhead
05-29-2006, 02:02 AM
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3116/xmenthreever171cd.jpg
Sniff. Dunno if that's old? More character posters on impawards.com.
This makes me yearn for the days when the characters that wore their uniforms in promo shots also wore them in the movie. Man, Cyke could've been so badass in the final battle, but instead they get rid of him before the "war" even begins. I say get rid of because I didn't see him die on screen, and who knows if he'll be back or not.
Optic Blast
05-29-2006, 02:03 AM
No, no, no, there were no discriminating posts that I saw, I just noticed you had ScoGan fangirl under your name. A line like Cyclops and Wolverine rubbing each other the wrong way is just itching for a trouble. :)
Radagast_Prime
05-29-2006, 02:38 AM
That's EXACTLY what I thought, too... I really think once the "new" wears off on this film, people will ridicule it for so many things like that, things that the good writing and characterization of the first two made up for... so many wrongs in this film, but the treatment of Cyke being split up between Storm and Logan is the worst...
I hope so, I truely can't understand how any X-fan could call this abomination the greatest of the 3 movies. I mean its a slap in the face to cyke fans but its also disrespectful to to other characters including wolverine.
millennium movies
05-29-2006, 03:44 AM
THis sucked! Cyckes looks so cool in that poster its really a reminder how this trilogy took a very wrong decision setting him as little as a cameo. Every film his role got smaller and less significant!
i will post the other part of this post in another thread as another character deserves that!
MsNatchios
05-29-2006, 06:50 AM
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3116/xmenthreever171cd.jpg
Sniff. Dunno if that's old? More character posters on impawards.com.
*Sigh* A waste of what could have been. :(
Another reason why Fox are bastards for leading us on. Anyone who still says they didn't take a look at that poster.
Bastila
05-29-2006, 07:10 AM
Cyke looked really cool in those posters and gave me hope that Fox gave him a good part but they didn't, but i still think his alive.
EmmaFrostRules
05-29-2006, 07:20 AM
*Sigh* A waste of what could have been. :(
Another reason why Fox are bastards for leading us on. Anyone who still says they didn't take a look at that poster.
yup. poor cyke and rogue and angel :P
Hugh'sMrs
05-29-2006, 07:32 AM
"If anything happens, I'll take care of them"
My favorite scene in the entire first film - a quiet moment with Scott and Xavier.
Rothman should be beaten. It just goes to show that the studios do not care about these properties, its just a cash cow to them.
I LOVED Scott's little monologue in that scene. It was so touching and Marsden played it to perfection. To see that promise tossed away is so upsetting. It's as if the X3 production team completely forgot about that lovely moment.
I don't understand how the film's doing so well when the majority of the people think it's so bad. I really don't know why people are seeing it more than once to try and convince themselves to like it. I've never come out of a film I disliked and thought wow I better go see that again to try and change my mind about it. That would be like going to a restaurant where the food is awful and the service is terrible as well and then going back every night for a week to see if things improve. With repeated viewings, I have slowly changed my mind about movies I've initially disliked, but that's catching them on cable not at the theater. If I'm going to spend my hard earned money it's going to be on something I actually enjoy. But that's just me.
millennium movies
05-29-2006, 07:39 AM
Sadly as always cyclops gets screwed! That quote just makes me want to watch the first movie so badly. Just to see for once where he appears to actualy be the team leader and BE in the film for more than 5-10 min!
conan69
05-29-2006, 08:58 AM
"I don't understand how the film's doing so well when the majority of the people think it's so bad."
The same reason they dont care about our opinions - the truth of the matter is that we are a very small percentage of the people who are going to see this film.
gap5ewl
05-29-2006, 08:59 AM
"I don't understand how the film's doing so well when the majority of the people think it's so bad."
The same reason they dont care about our opinions - the truth of the matter is that we are a very small percentage of the people who are going to see this film.
most of us enjoyed it and thaught it was more faithful to the comics then the others. however it was to short, and cyclops died so...
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 09:04 AM
I'm curious. What comics was it faithful to?
gap5ewl
05-29-2006, 09:21 AM
I'm curious. What comics was it faithful to?
well not the phoenix saga lol. however it had more of a comic feel, drama and action to it rather than x1 and 2. most of the characters were giving justice to (minus cyclops and rogue) in this one as well .
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 09:26 AM
Minus Cyclops, Rogue, Mystique, Angel, and the list goes on.
I just don't see how somebody can watch an X-men movie with Juggernaut where not only is he not magically empowered but he's not Xavier's brother either, and say with a straight face, that it is more faithful to the comics then its predecesors.
Although in all honesty, i can't see your face. :)
gap5ewl
05-29-2006, 09:29 AM
Minus Cyclops, Rogue, Mystique, Angel, and the list goes on.
I just don't see how somebody can watch an X-men movie with Juggernaut where not only is he not magically empowered but he's not Xavier's brother either, and say with a straight face, that it is more faithful to the comics then its predecesors.
Although in all honesty, i can't see your face. :)
Well the whole Juggernaut crsytal thing is corny and wouldnt work in the movies. It's just like saying we should put the Shi'ar in because the Phoenix is in it. I prefer mutant Juggs.
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 09:37 AM
You have just agreeed with me. The movie is not comic worthy.
millennium movies
05-29-2006, 09:38 AM
I find it amusing how everything in the comics suddenly becomes "too corny" for film. If it was so corny in the frist place, then why did people like the comic world so much that it created the adaptations?
TrailerMusic
05-29-2006, 09:39 AM
it had more of a comic feel
Thats pretty much all this Movie had going for it. A Comic Book Movie actuall feeling like a Comic Book Movie & not letting itself be to "realistic". Hopefully Ghost Rider, & Iron Man will FOX how it is done
Nathan
05-29-2006, 09:41 AM
I was fine with the origin change for the Juggernaut. The Crystal would've been so out of place in the Movie like a pink Elephant. Even in the X-Men Evolution cartoon he was changed into a Mutant, although they mentioned that he awakened his dormant X-gene through mysticism. But they don't go into detail.
The only problem I had with Movie Juggernaut is that he was a joke.
Hugh'sMrs
05-29-2006, 09:43 AM
I do believe that Ratner, Kinberg and Penn all said that there were pages of the comics taped to the walls and every single scene can be traced back to those origins. I'd like to see any other movie make that claim, then bastardize the source material and still think they were wholly faithful. I doubt LOTR or Harry Potter fans would be satisfied if the movies did that so why should X-Men fans accept anything less? It's one thing to say 'based on' but Rat, Kin & P made some pretty specific statements. They may have retracted/alterated/clarified it later after fans started complaining, but they did try and convince people that they were being more faithful than it turns out (and by default were dissing Singer ...... again)
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 09:44 AM
With the way Singer approached the films, there would never be any magical crystal. He gave this a very realistic approach, and Ratner built upon that.
You guys want to blame someone for Juggernaut not having the crystal, blame Singer.
ironmaidenrules
05-29-2006, 10:10 AM
magic is too fictional
so lets take the magic out of harry piotter
what?
its part of the story? u mean magic exists in their world?
wow
what?
magic exists in the marvel world?
the movies are adapted from the marvel world?
golly gee
conan69
05-29-2006, 10:11 AM
You cant go into magic crystals,MsMarvels, and Shiars and all that crap. You have to simplify for storytelling reasons,theres no time for such things and it doesnt make sense in a movie verse based in reality
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 10:16 AM
magic is too fictional
so lets take the magic out of harry piotter
what?
its part of the story? u mean magic exists in their world?
wow
what?
magic exists in the marvel world?
the movies are adapted from the marvel world?
golly gee
A magical crystal that turns ordinary people into hulking juggernauts. Yeah, that's something you see everyday.
LMason
05-29-2006, 10:19 AM
Someone jsut posted Jimmy singing on Ally McBeal on YouTube. Here's some recovery for Cyclops fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HUTsDvdLI
Optic Blast
05-29-2006, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I don't so much mind the fact that they made Juggernaut a mutant. The problem that I had was that they made him such a one dimensional joke of a character. Then again, there were so many of those in this movie.
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 11:01 AM
If they wanted a really strong guy they could've used... I don't know... Strong Guy. But they used Juggernaut because hey, it will bring the kids in. Not because they have the slightest shred of respect for the comics.
:(
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 11:06 AM
If they wanted a really strong guy they could've used... I don't know... Strong Guy. But they used Juggernaut because hey, it will bring the kids in. Not because they have the slightest shred of respect for the comics.
:(
:confused: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234309
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 11:12 AM
Imi cer scuze. De la mine a pornit.
So anyway... I was watching Last Stand today (my brother has a boot leg copy. shhhh). And I was just thinking that Marsden carries that leather jacket way better then Tom Cruise. I think Cruise had a similar jacket in War of the Worlds and I hated it. But it looked much better on Marsden. Probably cause of the shades.
DarknessOfDeath
05-29-2006, 11:15 AM
Did ur bro dl it off of Limewire? Ask him for the extension file.
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 11:16 AM
Nope. DC++. That's the only sharing software we use.
DarknessOfDeath
05-29-2006, 11:19 AM
hmmm got a link?
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 11:20 AM
Nope. DC++. That's the only sharing software we use.
Same here. I downloaded 695 mb - yet it won't work.
Not that I'm missing much... :p
LadyVader
05-29-2006, 11:35 AM
I have no idea how big this version is but it worked really well. I was however hoping to get another glimpse at that after credits scene, maybe even see the rumoured Cyclops resurrection, but alas, this version ended just as the credits began.
mustanger405
05-29-2006, 01:28 PM
I wrote this up very quickly like a month ago and posted it...does aybody think this is decent writing?
Darkness lurked over the city as the crescent moon rested on the nighttime sky and stood watch over the land. The fight was raging on with such great intensity and the Brotherhood was quickly closing in on Storm and Wolverine. Wolverine looked to Phoenix who was watching from the highest point of the battle in complete awe and yelled to the team "We must keep them back, hold the line!" Although the Xmen had done an excellent job of withstanding the ferocious attack of Magneto and his army, their strength was quickly fading. Magneto stood beside the lifeless Phoenix who was in utter silence and his lips curled upward giving off a small grin. He then glanced at Pyro who was just waiting at his side for the command to unleash his fury. "They are traitors to their own cause and they don’t even know it.....such a pity. Its time we put an end to this war” Pyro took these words as a signal to finally enter the fray.
Amongst all the confusion, Bobby was tightly grasping Kitty’s hand and was ready to use his powers against any of the soldiers who were relentlessly marching forward. It seemed utterly hopeless for the Xmen at this point and everything they stood for appeared to be nothing more then a dream.
Back at Alkali Lake, however, there was a certain calmness that lurked over the area while the fight raged on. A slight breeze could be heard which let off a soft whistle as pebbles were swept across the ground. Along the shore, a dark and decrepit individual lay sprawled out like a withering spider. He looked as if he was an inch from death and his clothes were completely frayed. It was none other then Scott Summers who was thought to be dead by all of his comrades back at the mansion. As water splashed onto his pale face, Scott let off a light cough as life slowly seemed to return to his body. He cautiously rose until he had a firm footing on the rough surface of the Jetty floor and soon realized his glasses were missing. A number of questions flooded into Scott’s head. He wondered how long he had been unconscious. What was he doing here? Then, the memories of Jean’s rebirth hit him all at once. Scott remembered how they tenderly embraced each other and how he was able to too gaze at Jean with his own two eyes for the very first time in his life.
He stood there helpless and unaware of his surroundings since he did not have his glasses or protective visor. At that moment, a soothing voice entered Scott’s head, “Listen to me Scott, the Xmen are in dire need of your help. Jean has become a great and powerful threat to both herself and the team. She has become consumed with hatred and is no longer the woman you remember her as.”
Scott was disillusioned by these words which brought him down on both knees. It was the voice of the closest thing he ever had to a father. “Professor, I need your help more then ever now. Please help me.”
Radagast_Prime
05-29-2006, 02:07 PM
If they wanted a really strong guy they could've used... I don't know... Strong Guy. But they used Juggernaut because hey, it will bring the kids in. Not because they have the slightest shred of respect for the comics.
:(
Exactly, I want to understand how this movie "feels more like the X-men". I mean in certain instances some characters do resemble their comic/animated counterparts in apearance, but I certainly didn't feel anything but disgust.
Secret_Riddle
05-29-2006, 02:20 PM
cyclops was extremely underused in x3 but i dont think he died and nor do any of the people i saw it with. they made to much of a point of not showing it. so i think he cud be bak in the future so lets not lose hope yet :)
taintedFB
05-29-2006, 02:25 PM
I agree that there is hope. If you notice, he opens his eyes before they cut away. If she loses control, perhaps his blast returns and that's why she's knocked out. As for him... whatever happened could be explained in another sequel.
My only fear is that he will never be mentioned again and because they want Halle Berry to be the leader. I hope this is not the case. I think he should return and she can still have a major role.
With the $120 million opening weekend, do you guys think there will be an X4?
BTW: Did that Petition go to FOx? We don't want X4 without Scott!
Bastila
05-29-2006, 02:28 PM
I agree that there is hope. If you notice, he opens his eyes before they cut away. If she loses control, perhaps his blast returns and that's why she's knocked out. As for him... whatever happened could be explained in another sequel.
My only fear is that he will never be mentioned again and because they want Halle Berry to be the leader. I hope this is not the case. I think he should return and she can still have a major role.
With the $120 million opening weekend, do you guys think there will be an X4?
BTW: Did that Petition go to FOx? We don't want X4 without Scott!
Got to be an X4 and i didnt know the petiton was sent. And i didn't really like Storm trying to be Leader.
And at the Akiline Lake with Jean's body getting on the rocks and Cyke gone how did she get there and where is he see i think Scott had somthing to do with that like you said maybe his Optical Beam knocked her out.
taintedFB
05-29-2006, 02:36 PM
You could explain it a million ways. Maybe she gave him amnesia, or caused him to go insane? Maybe he was abducted and it could be used as a set-up for a new storyline in X4? Maybe if Jean is resurrected with him (like the French claim in their cut, she can undo what she did...
Remember in the comics and cartoon, Phoenix had the power to CREATE and DESTROY....and demolecularization is not destruction, just a dispersement, meaning she could bring them back together to reform what she undid.
Who knows. I just want Cyclops to be in X4 and have a big role. I think they have enough characters where they can split the team up and have Storm and Cyclops co-lead. If Hugh wants out, fine, give him a cameo and have him leave the team. He's getting his own franchise anyway. And it will make room for a featured role for Gambit as the rebel, loner.
Bastila
05-29-2006, 02:39 PM
Remember in the comics and cartoon, Phoenix had the power to CREATE and DESTROY....and demolecularization is not destruction, just a dispersement, meaning she could bring them back together to reform what she undid.
Who knows. I just want Cyclops to be in X4 and have a big role. I think they have enough characters where they can split the team up and have Storm and Cyclops co-lead. If Hugh wants out, fine, give him a cameo and have him leave the team. He's getting his own franchise anyway. And it will make room for a featured role for Gambit as the rebel, loner.
Yep we know Jean can creat life and kill it, lets hope when she comes back she get Cyke, and i would love Fox to show everyone the real Cyke the strong leader he is and Storm can be Co-leader as well, as for Logan i couldn't care anymore in X3 i did like his seen with Jean at then end but its not love like it is with Scott and also he is getting his own movies so who cares. lol.
peteapan
05-29-2006, 02:40 PM
mustanger I liked what you wrote. would have been nice to see in the film but never gonna happen
martinbluther
05-29-2006, 02:54 PM
well not the phoenix saga lol. however it had more of a comic feel, drama and action to it rather than x1 and 2. most of the characters were giving justice to (minus cyclops and rogue) in this one as well .
I'm sorry. Which mutant or character do we know more about after this film as a character, and not a video game fighter? Not trying to be rude, but just how would you define giving a character justice? I don't honestly know one single thing about Storm except that she teaches, and that she controls the weather, but her character has no background, as do all of the characters here... no development except Jean... we learn about her history, and a little about X and MAgs...
Charlie No-One
05-29-2006, 02:55 PM
I wrote this up very quickly like a month ago and posted it...does aybody think this is decent writing?
Darkness lurked over the city as the crescent moon rested on the nighttime sky and stood watch over the land. The fight was raging on with such great intensity and the Brotherhood was quickly closing in on Storm and Wolverine. Wolverine looked to Phoenix who was watching from the highest point of the battle in complete awe and yelled to the team "We must keep them back, hold the line!" Although the Xmen had done an excellent job of withstanding the ferocious attack of Magneto and his army, their strength was quickly fading. Magneto stood beside the lifeless Phoenix who was in utter silence and his lips curled upward giving off a small grin. He then glanced at Pyro who was just waiting at his side for the command to unleash his fury. "They are traitors to their own cause and they don’t even know it.....such a pity. Its time we put an end to this war” Pyro took these words as a signal to finally enter the fray.
Amongst all the confusion, Bobby was tightly grasping Kitty’s hand and was ready to use his powers against any of the soldiers who were relentlessly marching forward. It seemed utterly hopeless for the Xmen at this point and everything they stood for appeared to be nothing more then a dream.
Back at Alkali Lake, however, there was a certain calmness that lurked over the area while the fight raged on. A slight breeze could be heard which let off a soft whistle as pebbles were swept across the ground. Along the shore, a dark and decrepit individual lay sprawled out like a withering spider. He looked as if he was an inch from death and his clothes were completely frayed. It was none other then Scott Summers who was thought to be dead by all of his comrades back at the mansion. As water splashed onto his pale face, Scott let off a light cough as life slowly seemed to return to his body. He cautiously rose until he had a firm footing on the rough surface of the Jetty floor and soon realized his glasses were missing. A number of questions flooded into Scott’s head. He wondered how long he had been unconscious. What was he doing here? Then, the memories of Jean’s rebirth hit him all at once. Scott remembered how they tenderly embraced each other and how he was able to too gaze at Jean with his own two eyes for the very first time in his life.
He stood there helpless and unaware of his surroundings since he did not have his glasses or protective visor. At that moment, a soothing voice entered Scott’s head, “Listen to me Scott, the Xmen are in dire need of your help. Jean has become a great and powerful threat to both herself and the team. She has become consumed with hatred and is no longer the woman you remember her as.”
Scott was disillusioned by these words which brought him down on both knees. It was the voice of the closest thing he ever had to a father. “Professor, I need your help more then ever now. Please help me.”
You should consider joining the Marvel RPG (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200636). Cyclops is taken, but there are many others to choose from.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 03:19 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1559/rogueblob3lt.gif (http://imageshack.us)
who needs cyclops?
crappymovie
05-29-2006, 03:23 PM
who needs cyclops?
who ever needed the useless Storm from the first X-men but she kept coming back.....:D
cyke93
05-29-2006, 03:29 PM
alright i just got home from a weekend away, whats the news? i heard about the box office results
TromaFreak64
05-29-2006, 03:36 PM
Basically the world has become a dark place....
cyke93
05-29-2006, 03:39 PM
same old crap.. yep thought so.. whoa nap time then
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 03:39 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1559/rogueblob3lt.gif (http://imageshack.us)
who needs cyclops?
That would work, but Rogue's kind of useless now...
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 03:48 PM
That would work, but Rogue's kind of useless now...
Useless, like everybody but the Wolverine.
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 03:49 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1559/rogueblob3lt.gif (http://imageshack.us)
who needs cyclops?
You ever watch the X-men Evolution episode where Cyke when one on one vs. Juggernaut? That's why - imagine that on the big screen.
Nathan
05-29-2006, 03:51 PM
You ever watch the X-men Evolution episode where Cyke when one on one vs. Juggernaut? That's why - imagine that on the big screen.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1600/cykevsjuggs9sw.gif (http://imageshack.us) :up:
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 03:52 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1600/cykevsjuggs9sw.gif (http://imageshack.us) :up:
Awesome!
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 03:53 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1600/cykevsjuggs9sw.gif (http://imageshack.us) :up:
did you see what happened right after that?
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 03:55 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197369,00.html
And here’s a little movie gossip for you: On Friday night, Ratner bought a bunch of tickets and took his friends, who included former fiancée Rebecca Gayheart, her husband, Salma Hayek and Ratner’s girlfriend Alina to Mann’s Chinese Theater in Hollywood to watch “X Men 3” with a real audience. When the show was over, they ran into Singer, who’d snuck in to see what Ratner had done with his franchise.
“He kept saying, It’s unbelievable, it’s unbelievable,” says a source who was present at the accidental meeting. Singer, of course, must be kicking himself that he abandoned X-Men. (And who does that, by the way? What was he thinking?)
The big winner here is Hugh Jackman, who plays Wolverine. Now that “X-Men: The Last Stand” has proven to be a mega hit, Jackman will clean up with a sequel based on his character and perhaps featuring cameos from the others, if not a full-fledged romantic pairing with either Storm (Halle Berry) or Jean Grey (Famke Janssen).
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8993209
Unbelievable, but in a bad way.
And what about that cr*p with "full-fledged romantic pairing"?!
*tears hairs out*
Radagast_Prime
05-29-2006, 03:55 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1600/cykevsjuggs9sw.gif (http://imageshack.us) :up:
Why fox why?!!!:up:
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 03:56 PM
did you see what happened right after that?
Go tell!
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 03:56 PM
Go tell!
???
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 04:00 PM
I thought you wanted to post what happened after that shown scene. *shrugs*
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 04:01 PM
???
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 04:02 PM
did you see what happened right after that?
So what happened after that?
Nathan
05-29-2006, 04:13 PM
:(
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6244/juggscyke3kk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 04:17 PM
:(
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6244/juggscyke3kk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Oh yeah - then Rogue touch him and save the day. Not that she can now :o
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 04:17 PM
:(
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6244/juggscyke3kk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Yup. Woulda been an awesome scene. Scott tries to beat Juggernaut with raw power, but NOBODY can beat Juggernaut in terms of raw power.
What I don't understand in that scene though - if Scott's attack blew off half the dam they were fighting on, what the hell is Juggernaut walking on? Adamentium?
:(
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6244/juggscyke3kk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
:D
Owned.
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 04:21 PM
:(
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6244/juggscyke3kk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Thanks. :(
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 05:17 PM
Bump
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:30 PM
In another thread somebody wrote that Logan had a telepathic link with Jean?
Did I miss something?
Nathan
05-29-2006, 05:31 PM
I don't quite understand.
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:35 PM
I don't quite understand.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234381
I thought it was kewl that Scott (and later Logan) had that telepathic link with Jean, it shows that they are connected.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 05:37 PM
Thanks. :(
you see....... i told you.
cyclops deserved it.
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:38 PM
you see....... i told you.
cyclops deserved it.
He deserved to die?
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 05:38 PM
He deserved to die?
^
the animation:o
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:39 PM
^
the animation:o
...
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 05:40 PM
...
^
the gif!!!:o :o
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:43 PM
^
the gif!!!:o :o
gif = Graphics Interchange Format ;)
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 05:44 PM
???????
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:46 PM
???????
I'm just having some fun.
I knew you meant the gif.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 05:47 PM
*runs away*
Don't know where to put that infos for the moment ,and sorry to shoot anybody hopes down , but somebody i trust contacted Fox in France to know if the multiple ending things is true , they said that it was a lie ,that there is only the Charles one that they don't understand from where started the rumors.
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 05:59 PM
don't know where to put that infos for the moment ,and sorry to shoot anybody hopes down , but somebody i trust contacted Fox in France to know if the multiple ending things is true , they said that it was a lie ,that there is only the Charles one that they don't understand from where started the rumors.
Thanks for the information.
Nathan
05-29-2006, 06:05 PM
Finally some confirmation.
Daniella
05-29-2006, 06:13 PM
In another thread somebody wrote that Logan had a telepathic link with Jean?
Did I miss something?
Oh, yeah... it was Logan that was hearing Jean's voice in his head on the mansion on X3... :rolleyes:
I don't know what some fans think... are they crazy ( not talking about you, Pizzaboy...) ?
Dany
Verlin
05-29-2006, 06:30 PM
@Maze: Well, we also had some people wich had very good friends in bookstores who said that they read the books and that those were saying cyke lives. It's kinda hard to believe anything that comes from the "I-have-a-friend-who-has-a-girlfriend-who-has-an-uncle-that-has-a-buddy-wich-is the-personal-coffee-brewer-of-someone-who-has-contact-to-somebody-in-fox." section...
Sorry for sounding so sarcastic but I think we should just see it with our own eyes. Many of those friends have lied in the past. And so has Fox...
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 06:31 PM
Oh, yeah... it was Logan that was hearing Jean's voice in his head on the mansion on X3... :rolleyes:
Thanks. This makes me sick.
I thought about watching this movie on DVD, but now I won't.
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 06:34 PM
Oh, yeah... it was Logan that was hearing Jean's voice in his head on the mansion on X3... :rolleyes:
I don't know what some fans think... are they crazy ( not talking about you, Pizzaboy...) ?
Dany
What? Logan did hear her! That's why he left to the forest. She was calling him as she called Scott before.
Angry Sentinel
05-29-2006, 06:40 PM
*walks in thread... remembers the movie... cries*
Somewhere around August of 2005 a supposedly 'fake' leaked script detailed a LOT of the things that happened in this movie. Sure, they rearranged some things, but only remotely changed the aspects that most of the fans here were LIVID about. What really gets me is, no-one seems to be discussing that fact.
That thread needs ressurrecting, I would like to pour over the details again.
...And worst yet, I probably still will have to have conversations with The Guard about how this installment proves how correct my 'observations' of Cyclop's usage from the first two installments were. Although to his credit, I do have to admit that it certainly isn't looking like it was Singer's ideas... or maybe that was Bosef.
Daniella
05-29-2006, 06:50 PM
What? Logan did hear her! That's why he left to the forest. She was calling him as she called Scott before.
Yes, she talked with him... but she didn't have a conection withhim !!!
Come on... I was talking about the link, that someone said she had with Logan... what she DOESN'T !!!
Dany
Pizzaboy1138
05-29-2006, 06:51 PM
Like Ororo and Xavier heard... :rolleyes:
Come on... I was talking about the link, that someone sayed she had with Logan... what she DOESN'T !!!
Dany
Thanks for clearing this up.
@Maze: Well, we also had some people wich had very good friends in bookstores who said that they read the books and that those were saying cyke lives. It's kinda hard to believe anything that comes from the "I-have-a-friend-who-has-a-girlfriend-who-has-an-uncle-that-has-a-buddy-wich-is the-personal-coffee-brewer-of-someone-who-has-contact-to-somebody-in-fox." section...
Sorry for sounding so sarcastic but I think we should just see it with our own eyes. Many of those friends have lied in the past. And so has Fox...
So?
you 're saying that somebody ( who i trust) is going to lie in saying "no there is not multiple endings? Why anybody would invent that? :confused:
uh why is there a "Last Stand Supporters Unite! " as a sticky? :confused:
Nathan
05-29-2006, 07:48 PM
Seems like some mod loved X3 apparently.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 07:48 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/186/lol8qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
PWN3R
05-29-2006, 07:50 PM
:D :D
Too bad they BOTH were barely in X3.
Seems like some mod loved X3 apparently.
You really think that the politic at Shh is so subjective?
martinbluther
05-29-2006, 07:50 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/186/lol8qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
colossus fan, or just tired of this thread?
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 07:51 PM
colossus fan, or just tired of this thread?
BOTH
Nathan
05-29-2006, 07:51 PM
You really think that the politic at Shh is so subjective?
Well, the Thread for people who didn't like X3 seems to be gone. So think of it what you will.
That said , thet "have a problem with X3" is a sticky too..i hadn't seen it so nevermind.
It's fair.
Nathan
05-29-2006, 07:53 PM
Oh yeah, well then they thought one complain thread was enough.
martinbluther
05-29-2006, 07:53 PM
BOTH
Love the avvy. Hope GR is much better than X3. Colossus got pretty shabby treatment in the movies, too...
martinbluther
05-29-2006, 07:55 PM
Oh yeah, well then they thought one complain thread was enough.
Honestly, I think they're doing their best with a bunch of us who are seriously upset, and trying to let people vent as much as possible, and then having to deal with the other camp which is becoming frustrated cause they liked the film... Tough job, imo...
I hope Cyke has a future in some film someday... and that there will be a team movie/series, but it doesn't look that way...
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 07:57 PM
stop trolling .
oh common.!!!
:o ...
you cant take a joke!
Supreme Power
05-29-2006, 08:10 PM
Well, the Thread for people who didn't like X3 seems to be gone. So think of it what you will.
There was actually a whole lot more threads for those. I think they got merged.
Latin_Princess1
05-29-2006, 08:13 PM
I Almost Cryed Wen Cyclops Died....other Then That The Movie Was Awesome Just Saw It Todaii
oh common.!!!
:o ...
you cant take a joke!
i can ,But that is not the moment. You saw the reactions on this thread.
you know what will happen if i do a Singer punching Ratner on the "last stand unite" thing.
so if it not your intent , i apologize but again it is not the moment xwolverine2.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 08:16 PM
i can ,But that is not the moment you saw the reactions on this thread.
so if it not your intent , i apologize but again it is not the moment xwolverine2.
:D :D :D :D
then this is not the cyclops thread i know and loved:o :down
Maybe
but, what will happen if i post a Singer punching Ratner on the "Last Stand Supporters Unite!"thread right now?
Honestly.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 08:19 PM
Maybe
but, what will happen if i post a Singer punching Ratner on the "Last Stand Supporters Unite!"thread?
Honestly.
i wouldnt ***** about it......:confused:
i wouldnt ***** about it......:confused:
Yeah...
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 08:20 PM
Yeah...
why would i?
why would i?
No it's true , you can't possibly know. that was ridiculous on my part .
nevermind.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 08:21 PM
are you being sarcastic?
AVP82
05-29-2006, 08:44 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/186/lol8qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Wow that's great!
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 08:58 PM
^
LOL its hypnotising
PhePhe112
05-29-2006, 09:01 PM
If people are sick of this thread then why come into it? If it's to see about certain things you've posted then fine, but just ignore the posts that get on your nerves. There are TONS of stuff people have said and did to me that I was pissed about. You just gotta ignore it. Love the Movie or hate it....NOT EVERYONE is going to agree. Just let it be. Debate and such but don't be mean and attack peeps (NOT that anyone here is doing this). well...anyways...
:cyclops: :)
mustanger405
05-29-2006, 09:26 PM
Phe Phe...if you could add my petition to ur profile...I would really appreciate it....I got 216 signatures
Sign the Petition for Cyclops
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748766162
PhePhe112
05-29-2006, 09:27 PM
ok!!!! done :)
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:28 PM
^
Oh Please!
PhePhe112
05-29-2006, 09:30 PM
^
Oh Please!
:confused:
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 09:34 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/186/lol8qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Cyke would ruin Colossus. For as I know, you're gonna need to be Juggernaut-class not to be blown back 100 ft.
It wouldn't even be fair.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:35 PM
Cyke would ruin Colossus. It wouldn't even be fair.
not according to the documented footage:o
LastSunrise1981
05-29-2006, 09:36 PM
not according to the documented footage:o
Well if Cyke removed his visor it wouldn't be pretty for Colossus. ;)
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:38 PM
Well if Cyke removed his visor it wouldn't be pretty for Colossus. ;)
theres no documented footage of that..
:eek: wow you guys are more protective than the supes fans:eek: :eek:
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 09:40 PM
theres no documented footage of that..
:eek: wow you guys are more protective than the supes fans:eek: :eek:
And you're not protective over your favorite characters?
And no, Scott doesn't even need to remove his visor to blast Colossus into next week. As far as Scott is concerned, Colossus is just a big slow bullseye. It's just a rock, paper, scissor thing, but in this case Scott is the paper to Colossus' rock.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:42 PM
And you're not protective over your favorite characters?
And no, Scott doesn't even need to remove his visor to blast Colossus into next week. As far as Scott is concerned, Colossus is just a big slow bullseye. It's just a rock, paper, scissor thing, but in this case Scott is the paper to Colossus' rock.
^proved my point
AVP82
05-29-2006, 09:44 PM
Wow Cyclops fans are so tense.
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 09:44 PM
^proved my point
I wasn't trying to prove, or disprove anything. Don't know what you're trying to get at here.
Wow Cyclops fans are so tense.
Well, the character did get the biggest shaft of the century.
Daniella
05-29-2006, 09:48 PM
so, let me ask... between Logan and Scott, who would win ?
Let's not forget, that Scott's powers is the only ( well, I don't know if there is other that can beat Wolvies.. maybe Havok's... ) one that can hurt the adamantium...
Dany
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:48 PM
Well, the character did get the biggest shaft of the century.
still....... loosen up buddy:up:
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 09:49 PM
so, let me ask... between Logan and Scott, who would win ?
Let's not forget, that Scott's powers is the only ( well, I don't know if there is other that can beat Wolvies.. maybe Havok's... ) one that can hurt the adamantium...
Dany
dont you dare start that **** here!!!:eek: :down
PWN3R
05-29-2006, 09:50 PM
Colossus is faster than Cyclops. :o
Colossus has some speed you know...
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 09:55 PM
so, let me ask... between Logan and Scott, who would win ?
Since someone's already posted a couple of pages in here from the comics of Cyclops kicking Logan's butt, I guess it'd be Cyke. :)
AVP82
05-29-2006, 09:56 PM
Well, the character did get the biggest shaft of the century.
Didn't you think any of Scott's screentime was noteworthy?
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 10:17 PM
Colossus is faster than Cyclops. :o
Colossus has some speed you know...
Going by the movies, I think EVERYONE's faster than Cyclops ;)
Oh, one more thing - if we're talking logically here - not many things are faster than human sight and Scott's optic blast. Just so you know.
Didn't you think any of Scott's screentime was noteworthy?
Overshadowed by Logan replacing him in a Dark Phoenix story. So no, none of his screentime was noteworthy. He was just another plot device to make Logan look good by having him move in on his girl.
jcykeson
05-29-2006, 10:32 PM
How was his scream? is it justified?
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 10:33 PM
How was his scream? is it justified?
did you see the movie?:confused: :confused: :confused:
jcykeson
05-29-2006, 10:35 PM
nah, i'm saddened with Cyclops death... maybe i'll watch the DVD if there's some justification to Cyke there... doubt it though...
Nirvana
05-29-2006, 10:36 PM
I loved Cyclops, he was my favorite X-Men character. And its ashame that he was used so little in the movie, but I little they did have of him I did like. Hopefully by X4 they'll have some explanation of him coming back somehow, I mean these stupid comic book characters never die right? Right!?
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 10:37 PM
nah, i'm saddened with Cyclops death... maybe i'll watch the DVD if there's some justification to Cyke there... doubt it though...
your loss
LastSunrise1981
05-29-2006, 10:40 PM
theres no documented footage of that..
:eek: wow you guys are more protective than the supes fans:eek: :eek:
But Supes got his ass handed to him by Doomsday though. :p
PWN3R
05-29-2006, 10:42 PM
Going by the movies, I think EVERYONE's faster than Cyclops ;)
Oh, one more thing - if we're talking logically here - not many things are faster than human sight and Scott's optic blast. Just so you know.
screw the movies, colossus or cykes never got any love. :(
whats that phrase, something like a picture says a thousand words?
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/29/colossusspeed3wr.jpg
Colossus does have speed buddy, i forgot what class he is in, but he is faster than a normal human.
And just for fun:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5478/colossusandwolverinexm249yt.jpg
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/3738/colossusandwolverinexm2429mr.jpg
lol I know Cykes wasn't trying, still funny....
jcykeson
05-29-2006, 10:45 PM
your loss
not everyone heals as fast as you
D-scythe
05-29-2006, 10:48 PM
not everyone heals as fast as you
LOL, that was pretty bad :p
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 10:49 PM
nah, i'm saddened with Cyclops death... maybe i'll watch the DVD if there's some justification to Cyke there... doubt it though...
His few scenes are good, and it's nice that they at least bury Jean and Cyke together at the end, but... yeah. ass.
cyke93
05-29-2006, 10:49 PM
I was just thinking right now about it and I think Cyclops' role in the movie is reduced even further. I remember reading about the AICN that Scott's death was accidental and that it triggers jean to go nutzo, hence his pivotol role in the movie.
but in the film, xavier explained already that jean had a dual personality. so that means that scott's death was just the 1st victem for phoenix. his death then really meant nothing in terms of the story. jean was crazy from the get go, his death had no influence on anyone in the story. the only one who slightly gave a daym was the quick "kill me" line she delivered to logan.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 10:50 PM
not everyone heals as fast as you
i never got injured:o
and nice pics PWN3R!!...how the hell did you find those???:confused: :confused:
cyke93
05-29-2006, 10:50 PM
His few scenes are good, and it's nice that they at least bury Jean and Cyke together at the end, but... yeah. ass.
i think the tombstone got more screen time.
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 10:53 PM
i think the tombstone got more screen time.
Don't be ridiculous. The tombstone DID NOT get more screen time. :rolleyes:
The spit on his tombstone got more screentime...
:p
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 10:55 PM
^
oh common
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 10:55 PM
Worthy, it's pretty hilarious that three of the characters in your avatar barely had any screen time in this movie. :)
cyke93
05-29-2006, 10:55 PM
hey worthy, i havent been here in a few days, but what u think of the movie ?
PWN3R
05-29-2006, 10:56 PM
Worthy, it's pretty hilarious that three of the characters in your avatar barely had any screen time in this movie. :)
three of the best characters....:( :mad:
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 10:57 PM
three of the best characters....:( :mad:
minus angel
celldog
05-29-2006, 10:57 PM
They never found his body! It's wide open for a return of Cyke.
If they can bring back Spock, who we saw die, Scott will be back.
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 10:58 PM
three of the best characters....:( :mad:
Eh... I was initially worried that Ben Foster was miscast, and... I ended up feeling I was right, but not for the reasons I first thought. I thought his looks seemed off, but in the movie, I was actually very satisfied with his appearance. Instead, his nasally, weasely "Spacker Dave" voice made me think this dude has no busines playing this part. :(
Colossus... man, it's hard to say what I think of Cudmore as Colossus, because he only had ONE LINE OF DIALOGUE. He spoke more in X2!
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:02 PM
^
oh common
I was a joke.
Worthy, it's pretty hilarious that three of the characters in your avatar barely had any screen time in this movie. :)
It's sad... but atleast with Angel, overall his role did come full circle. Colossus and Cyclops on the other hand...
hey worthy, i havent been here in a few days, but what u think of the movie ?
Overall, I loved it. But it did have many flaws with it. Here's my full review:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8973489&postcount=1167
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:04 PM
minus angel
Sure, there... sure.
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:05 PM
Eh... I was initially worried that Ben Foster was miscast, and... I ended up feeling I was right, but not for the reasons I first thought. I thought his looks seemed off, but in the movie, I was actually very satisfied with his appearance. Instead, his nasally, weasely "Spacker Dave" voice made me think this dude has no busines playing this part. :(
To each their own I guess.
I had a problem with it before, but it grew on me.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:06 PM
Sure, there... sure.
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:09 PM
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
To each their own.
But Angel is much more than wings.
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:10 PM
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD!?! :o
SCOOT, GET, VAMOOSE!!!!!
:D
PWN3R
05-29-2006, 11:10 PM
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
lol! you are crazy.
:) :up:
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:10 PM
WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD!?! :o
SCOOT, GET, VAMOOSE!!!!!
:D
im talking about angel not cyke...
id love to have cykes powers
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:11 PM
lol! you are crazy.
:) :up:
"hey natalie your one crazy *****"
"I WANNA **** YOU TOO!":o
But Angel is much more than wings.
his looks
cyke93
05-29-2006, 11:13 PM
Overall, I loved it. But it did have many flaws with it. Here's my full review:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8973489&postcount=1167
wow, read the review good for you. i was actually surprised that the movie was so disappointing. i also went in trying not to be a fanboy but even then it didn't work. basically it had all the f/x but not much more than that. even with out looking at cyclops, the movie was weak overall. i didnthave problem with the run time, but now i see why, the movie was too rushed.. then there was a whole bunch of plotholes and a lot of unecessary things in the movie, as well as the mistreatment of not only cyclops, angel, rouge, and colosus. but the biggest gripe, was phoenix itself. it was very disappointing, i really only liked her scene with xavier, the ending on the other hand was complete b/s imo. the phoenix entity seemed to have no loyalties to anyone, but yet she easily went alone with magneto and that whole time she just stood there, until all of magz goons were all done with and then she goes crazy. in the comics, she enjoyed causing destruction, they couldn't even get that right. basically, you could've not had phoenix in the movie and everything still would've basically been the same.
not to say the movie did not have some highlights for me. but it basically fell flat on it's face. and im surprised that there are more people who enjoyed the movie ..
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 11:13 PM
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
Why would you hate that? I would LOVE to fly, man. Who wouldn't want to fly? Unless you hate heights. But I think that fear would kind of be tempered by your ability to fly.
ginny_weasley
05-29-2006, 11:13 PM
I was just thinking right now about it and I think Cyclops' role in the movie is reduced even further. I remember reading about the AICN that Scott's death was accidental and that it triggers jean to go nutzo, hence his pivotol role in the movie.
but in the film, xavier explained already that jean had a dual personality. so that means that scott's death was just the 1st victem for phoenix. his death then really meant nothing in terms of the story. jean was crazy from the get go, his death had no influence on anyone in the story. the only one who slightly gave a daym was the quick "kill me" line she delivered to logan.
I think you've got a point there....I mean, was it just me, or did Jean already seem a bit Phoenix-ish when she rose from Alkali Lake? She just seemed too overconfident about the whole "Take off your glasses" thing...
And Xavier gave the impression that Jean's uber-powers had saved her in the lake and that the Phoenix side of her was no longer under his control...indicating that she was always Phoenix since she rose from Alkali. My original assumption (before seeing the flick) was that she would be resurrected all-powerful but only turn 'evil' after the accidental death of Scott....the film does seem to give an alternate impression....
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:14 PM
Why would you hate that? I would LOVE to fly, man. Who wouldn't want to fly? Unless you hate heights. But I think that fear would kind of be tempered by your ability to fly.
yeah but it would be annoying to shop for clothes...and to sleep.... and to sit down....
its too much for too little:( :down
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 11:15 PM
yeah but it would be annoying to shop for clothes...and to sleep.... and to sit down....
its too much for too little:( :down
His family is crazy-rich, I think they probably get his clothes custom tailored with wing-holes. ;)
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:16 PM
his looks
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=100
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:18 PM
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=100
all that was never explained in the movie... ^thats just crazy
His family is crazy-rich, I think they probably get his clothes custom tailored with wing-holes.
well....im not rich...so that doesnt help me.
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 11:19 PM
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=100
Waitasecond, he can make his fingers into TALONS? That's new on me.
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:20 PM
has anyone read the New Astonishing X-men issue
i think its still astonoshing. W/E its one where Emma is in Scott's head trying to find the reason he can't control his powers. So yea she really fuc#s with his head and said alot of mest up things and when i finished reading that issue i ended liking the character even more :p he felt so much more relatable to me anyways.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:21 PM
Waitasecond, he can make his fingers into TALONS? That's new on me.
LOL!!...
id rather have anyone elses powers
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:21 PM
wow, read the review good for you. i was actually surprised that the movie was so disappointing. i also went in trying not to be a fanboy but even then it didn't work. basically it had all the f/x but not much more than that. even with out looking at cyclops, the movie was weak overall. i didnthave problem with the run time, but now i see why, the movie was too rushed.. then there was a whole bunch of plotholes and a lot of unecessary things in the movie, as well as the mistreatment of not only cyclops, angel, rouge, and colosus. but the biggest gripe, was phoenix itself. it was very disappointing, i really only liked her scene with xavier, the ending on the other hand was complete b/s imo. the phoenix entity seemed to have no loyalties to anyone, but yet she easily went alone with magneto and that whole time she just stood there, until all of magz goons were all done with and then she goes crazy. in the comics, she enjoyed causing destruction, they couldn't even get that right. basically, you could've not had phoenix in the movie and everything still would've basically been the same.
not to say the movie did not have some highlights for me. but it basically fell flat on it's face. and im surprised that there are more people who enjoyed the movie ..
As a fanboy, yes it's much more disappointing. I agree.
But with Angel, he's not as mistreated as people say. Sure, he didn't have much screentime, but with the time he had, he made some kind of impact. And they also showed the transition of Warren going from 'scared of his mutantcy' to flying without fear at the end (the scene in the park).
As a fanboy, I would have killed to have seen Cyclops and Angel in battle, Rogue not take the cure, the Phoenix firebird, Colossus vs. Juggernaut, an original 5 reference, Trask having a connection with Sentinels, and Moira having more time onscreen.
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 11:22 PM
As a fanboy, yes it's much more disappointing. I agree.
But with Angel, he's not as mistreated as people say. Sure, he didn't have much screentime, but with the time he had, he made some kind of impact. And they also showed the transition of Warren going from 'scared of his mutantcy' to flying without fear at the end (the scene in the park).
As a fanboy, I would have killed to have seen Cyclops and Angel in battle, Rogue not take the cure, the Phoenix firebird, Colossus vs. Juggernaut, an original 5 reference, Trask having a connection with Sentinels, and Moira having more time onscreen.
I think even Rogue in the comics would probably want the cure. So I think not wanting her to take the cure is kind of wack just because dude, I know I'd take it in her shoes, even if I could fly and had superstrength.
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:23 PM
As a fanboy, I would have killed to have seen Cyclops and Angel in battle, Rogue not take the cure, the Phoenix firebird, Colossus vs. Juggernaut, an original 5 reference, Trask having a connection with Sentinels, and Moira having more time onscreen.
ANYTHING ELSE?!?:eek: :confused:
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:24 PM
I think even Rogue in the comics would probably want the cure. So I think not wanting her to take the cure is kind of wack just because dude, I know I'd take it in her shoes, even if I could fly and had superstrength.
i wouldnt:D :D
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:24 PM
I think even Rogue in the comics would probably want the cure. So I think not wanting her to take the cure is kind of wack just because dude, I know I'd take it in her shoes, even if I could fly and had superstrength.
Actually Rogue has lost her powers twice and both times she's wanted them back :o
i think more than twice not sure.
WorthyStevens
05-29-2006, 11:24 PM
I think even Rogue in the comics would probably want the cure. So I think not wanting her to take the cure is kind of wack just because dude, I know I'd take it in her shoes, even if I could fly and had superstrength.
I know it makes more sense for movie Rogue to take the cure, but still, I was kind of hoping she wouldn't.
But hey, judging by Magneto's chess scene, it seems the cure isn't permanent, so who knows.
DarknessOfDeath
05-29-2006, 11:25 PM
Oi Moira was hot..even though she was only in a few scenes...all too briefly. I hope we see more of her in x4 ;) Dr's are hot... I dunno what it is... but this whole mutancy is so interesting. Mutation, evolution...science stuff is so cool. I wanna learn more :D
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:26 PM
Oi Moira was hot..even though she was only in a few scenes...all too briefly. I hope we see more of her in x4 ;) Dr's are hot... I dunno what it is... but this whole mutancy is so interesting. Mutation, evolution...science stuff is so cool. I wanna learn more :D
Hey Andy! You are so Random :p
AVP82
05-29-2006, 11:27 PM
meh........ i think of all the mutants powers i would hate to have his.
i would rather take the cure...
hell...id rather have rogues powers:(
What really??? I'd love to have the wings
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:27 PM
it would be cool to have cyke powers.....
id blast my chemistry teacher RIGHT in the face..........oh did i mention i hate that *****?
DarknessOfDeath
05-29-2006, 11:27 PM
lol...seriously... Moira and Jean :D :D
Bishop2
05-29-2006, 11:31 PM
Actually Rogue has lost her powers twice and both times she's wanted them back :o
i think more than twice not sure.
Why did she want them back?
"Not touching people is awesome." :confused:
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:33 PM
Why did she want them back?
"Not touching people is awesome." :confused:
Well becaus she felt defenless and because At one point in X-treme X-men she had total control and it was SICK AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!1
she could summon back anyone's ability who she had ever touched EVEN THE HULK!!!
DarknessOfDeath
05-29-2006, 11:33 PM
maybe she got sick of touching the same ...erm... nvm
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:33 PM
Why did she want them back?
"Not touching people is awesome." :confused:
more like
"touching people you hate and killing them and not going to jail is awesome"
xwolverine2
05-29-2006, 11:34 PM
Well becaus she felt defenless and because At one point in X-treme X-men she had total control and it was SICK AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!1
she could summon back anyone's ability who she had ever touched EVEN THE HULK!!!
calm down fellow floridian............breathe
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:36 PM
calm down fellow floridian............breathe
I am calm :confused:
Everything is being typed how can you tell of someone's emotions.
LOL this is way i always but Smileys at the end of things so ppl won't take stuff the wrong way :D
Edit- Yes i know i put exclamation marks but still :p
TromaFreak64
05-29-2006, 11:39 PM
So about Cyclops re-shoots talking to some people, I discovered that many of the re-shoots were just to touch up some stuff...mainly Scott's hair on close-ups. They had tried to make it so it was more messy and stuff, so in many publicity pictures Marsden's hair almost seems curly in the front and not very Cyclops like. When editing the film I guess they gathered the change was not welcome and went back to correct it. As a result many of the images we saw of Marsden were re-shoot simply to correct his hair...nothing else. A good example is the image of Marsden on the motorcycle, and then compare it to the same scene on screen (specifically their hair).
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 11:41 PM
So about Cyclops re-shoots talking to some people, I discovered that many of the re-shoots were just to touch up some stuff...mainly Scott's hair on close-ups. They had tried to make it so it was more messy and stuff, so in many publicity pictures Marsden's hair almost seems curly in the front and not very Cyclops like. When editing the film I guess they gathered the change was not welcome and went back to correct it. As a result many of the images we saw of Marsden were re-shoot simply to correct his hair...nothing else. A good example is the image of Marsden on the motorcycle, and then compare it to the same scene on screen (specifically their hair).
This movie was sloppy in many places, im surprised they bothered with his hair.
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:42 PM
So about Cyclops re-shoots talking to some people, I discovered that many of the re-shoots were just to touch up some stuff...mainly Scott's hair on close-ups. They had tried to make it so it was more messy and stuff, so in many publicity pictures Marsden's hair almost seems curly in the front and not very Cyclops like. When editing the film I guess they gathered the change was not welcome and went back to correct it. As a result many of the images we saw of Marsden were re-shoot simply to correct his hair...nothing else. A good example is the image of Marsden on the motorcycle, and then compare it to the same scene on screen (specifically their hair).
Reshoot for hair!?! isn't that money right there!! MONEY THAT COULD OF BEEN SPENT ON HAVING A FULL F*ING SENTINEL!!!!:mad: :O :(
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:43 PM
This movie was sloppy in many places, im surprised they bothered with his hair.
HI CAP!!!
DREW CAREY SHOW 4EVER!! :p
gambitfire
05-29-2006, 11:45 PM
I need to know has anyone who worked on X-3 been asked about Cyclops death as well as many other countless deaths?
cryptic name
05-29-2006, 11:48 PM
Reshoot for hair!?! isn't that money right there!! MONEY THAT COULD OF BEEN SPENT ON HAVING A FULL F*ING SENTINEL!!!!:mad: :O :(
or maybe a final fight that didn't involve the x-men standing in a straight row and punching everyone that ran by.
Mar420x
05-29-2006, 11:49 PM
i think his reshots were for the false advertising of fox leading us 2 think that he was going to be in a battle with his x-suit. peace
oneteen
05-29-2006, 11:50 PM
So about Cyclops re-shoots talking to some people, I discovered that many of the re-shoots were just to touch up some stuff...mainly Scott's hair on close-ups. They had tried to make it so it was more messy and stuff, so in many publicity pictures Marsden's hair almost seems curly in the front and not very Cyclops like. When editing the film I guess they gathered the change was not welcome and went back to correct it. As a result many of the images we saw of Marsden were re-shoot simply to correct his hair...nothing else. A good example is the image of Marsden on the motorcycle, and then compare it to the same scene on screen (specifically their hair).
Where did you find this out? Just wondering...
CapBeerCino
05-29-2006, 11:58 PM
HI CAP!!!
DREW CAREY SHOW 4EVER!! :p
LOL, hello to you too :)
D-scythe
05-30-2006, 12:01 AM
Where did you find this out? Just wondering...
Does it matter? The leaked stuff turned out to be accurate, so whether the re-shoots was for James' hair or not was pointless. The way I see it, the "reshoot" rumour was either pure bull***** or they really did just reshoot scenes for James' hair.
oneteen
05-30-2006, 12:07 AM
Or they did re-shoots for the dvd? You never know.
ginny_weasley
05-30-2006, 12:07 AM
Reshoot for hair!?! isn't that money right there!! MONEY THAT COULD OF BEEN SPENT ON HAVING A FULL F*ING SENTINEL!!!!:mad: :O :(
Or an actual Phoenix Effect :mad:
But $$ aside, how about using the TIME James was available to shoot some more scenes.
Seriously, whoever was producing this film needs to be given their two weeks notice.
Radagast_Prime
05-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Seriously, whoever was producing this film needs to be given their two weeks notice.
And a swift kick in the ass out the door!:up:
CapBeerCino
05-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Seriously, whoever was producing this film needs to be given their two weeks notice.
Did you write your own review somewhere?
gambitfire
05-30-2006, 12:11 AM
Did you write your own review somewhere?
i hate that the critiques actually tried to make this movie sound decent and i mean like the real critiques not some fanboy at aint it cool :p
Bishop2
05-30-2006, 12:17 AM
I still can't believe that THIS is the banner ad that ran on Yahoo Movies for the past week:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3banner.gif
If that's what the movie was really focused on, it would've been a lot more up my alley.
ginny_weasley
05-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Did you write your own review somewhere?
Alas, no. I just figured it would get lost it the scroll craziness, lol. I wrote a little on this thread I think...
My general thoughts were:
- Some nice moments (Magneto flipping cars to rescue Mystique and doing some badass stuff at Alcatraz, Wolverine kicking booty in the woods, Jean and Logan in the lab, Jean pissed at Xavier before zapping him, Kitty and Beast, some good acting by James, Famke and Ian)
- but rather souless and without a point: the Phoenix Saga is about the relationship/bond between Scott and Jean, and the choice of Jean to sacrifice her life [and opportunity to become a god] in order to save those she loves. without that, what's the point?
- also, no real character development for anyone (ok, sorta for Wolverine and Storm, but it was very badly done and didn't even do justice to them)
ginny_weasley
05-30-2006, 12:20 AM
I still can't believe that THIS is the banner ad that ran on Yahoo Movies for the past week:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3banner.gif
If that's what the movie was really focused on, it would've been a lot more up my alley.
*cries*
I feel so lied to. *wags fist at Fox*
Cool banner though.
cyke93
05-30-2006, 12:21 AM
I still can't believe that THIS is the banner ad that ran on Yahoo Movies for the past week:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3banner.gif
If that's what the movie was really focused on, it would've been a lot more up my alley.
they fcked up the whole phoenix storyline, it should've been an inner struggle between jean and phoenix and scott as her anchor and support...:sigh:
cyke93
05-30-2006, 12:22 AM
the clip where xavier throws scotts death back at jean, is that online anywhere?
Kurosawa
05-30-2006, 12:25 AM
I still can't believe that THIS is the banner ad that ran on Yahoo Movies for the past week:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/moviemaniacs/x3banner.gif
If that's what the movie was really focused on, it would've been a lot more up my alley.
Pretty typical of how the movie was marketed-with lies.
Hulkster
05-30-2006, 12:27 AM
Yeah the movie should be called X-men True Lies.
cyke93
05-30-2006, 12:29 AM
Yeah the movie should be called X-men True Lies.
lol
Hulkster
05-30-2006, 12:34 AM
I remember reading at the xverse forum and Simon Kinberg said that the Cyclops fans will be happy, but it's all lies and ****. But I'm proud that I didn't spend my money on it.
X-men RIP
2000-2006
Kurosawa
05-30-2006, 12:39 AM
I remember reading at the xverse forum and Simon Kinberg said that the Cyclops fans will be happy, but it's all lies and ****. But I'm proud that I didn't spend my money on it.
X-men RIP
2000-2006
Same here. Those bastards didn't get a dime of my money for this P.O.S.
Polarbears815
05-30-2006, 12:42 AM
I remember reading at the xverse forum and Simon Kinberg said that the Cyclops fans will be happy, but it's all lies and ****. But I'm proud that I didn't spend my money on it
Hmm...then they all really lied to us. It was probably before Singer jumped ship to Superman and before Mardsen went along to Superman with him. But I could be wrong.
As for the money thing...unfortunately they got mine...well...actually not really. They got my friend's money since I was given one of those free movie tickets for a present. Glad I didn't use my own money. :)
ginny_weasley
05-30-2006, 12:44 AM
I remember reading at the xverse forum and Simon Kinberg said that the Cyclops fans will be happy, but it's all lies and ****. But I'm proud that I didn't spend my money on it.
X-men RIP
2000-2006
I really wished they'd just come out and said 'cyke fans will probably not be pleased'....
But in all honesty I think they (and I mean this in the kindest way possible) deluded themselves into thinking they had done the Phoenix Saga justice. Because in all honesty, this is more than Cyke getting the shaft - it's the story. Only someone totally off the mark and unaware of it could think this was the proper handling of the source material.
I say this not as a Cyke fan (because I'm not a particularly large one - at least not more so than most of the other characters), but as someone who cared about the story and its players getting proper justice.
Kurosawa
05-30-2006, 12:46 AM
I really wished they'd just come out and said 'cyke fans will probably not be pleased'....
But in all honesty I think they (and I mean this in the kindest way possible) deluded themselves into thinking they had done the Phoenix Saga justice. Because in all honesty, this is more than Cyke getting the shaft - it's the story. Only someone totally off the mark and unaware of it could think this was the proper handling of the source material.
I say this not as a Cyke fan (because I'm not a particularly large one - at least not more so than most of the other characters), but as someone who cared about the story and its players getting proper justice.
They said that kind of stuff because they're corporate whores.
ginny_weasley
05-30-2006, 12:47 AM
They said that kind of stuff because they're corporate whores.
Haha, that too I suppose. :up:
PikaZeroX
05-30-2006, 12:51 AM
Did you guys notice the big wad of spit on Cyclops' grave at the end? It got even more screentime than Colossus or Rogue!
Radagast_Prime
05-30-2006, 12:55 AM
Did you guys notice the big wad of spit on Cyclops' grave at the end? It got even more screentime than Colossus or Rogue!
Lol. :( Hell the president might have had about the same screen time as Cyke if not more.
WorthyStevens
05-30-2006, 12:56 AM
Did you guys notice the big wad of spit on Cyclops' grave at the end? It got even more screentime than Colossus or Rogue!
Heh... funny you should say that. :p Back on pg. 990:
i think the tombstone got more screen time.
Don't be ridiculous. The tombstone DID NOT get more screen time. :rolleyes:
The spit on his tombstone got more screentime...
:p
gambitfire
05-30-2006, 12:56 AM
Same here. Those bastards didn't get a dime of my money for this P.O.S.
Kurosawa your so enlightning :D :p
CapBeerCino
05-30-2006, 01:03 AM
the clip where xavier throws scotts death back at jean, is that online anywhere?
I think the whole movie is on-line by now.
Mar420x
05-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Lol. :( Hell the president might have had about the same screen time as Cyke if not more.
yea i think mr president did have more screen time than Cyke.:down
CapBeerCino
05-30-2006, 01:25 AM
Makes me wanna shoot someone-
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7506/scottjean1hj.gif (spoiler if you haven't seen x-3)
Bastila
05-30-2006, 06:01 AM
they fcked up the whole phoenix storyline, it should've been an inner struggle between jean and phoenix and scott as her anchor and support...:sigh:
I think we all feel the same way, thats how it should have been done would have been more emotial and sadder if it was Scotty at the end and not Logan.
Bishop2
05-30-2006, 07:10 AM
Did you guys notice the big wad of spit on Cyclops' grave at the end? It got even more screentime than Colossus or Rogue!
Was there seriously something on his tombstone?
I bet someone on the set really did spit on it because they hated him so much.
Pizzaboy1138
05-30-2006, 07:52 AM
About the whole Wolverine and Jean thing at the end of the movie ...
Since I haven't read the comics, I was reading a bit to get some informations and found this:
http://www.scottandjean.com/whatif/whatif60.html
WHAT IF PHOENIX HAD FALLEN FOR WOLVERINE?
When Jean became Phoenix, she found herself "wilder" and "freer", and falling for Wolverine as she felt that Scott had "been holding [her] back". The Phoenix henceforth becomes more aggressive and uncontrollable, and during the battle with the Hellfire Club, Mastermind's efforts in turning Jean into the Black Queen backfires as Phoenix breaks Mastermind's control snapped free by the distraction of battling Wolverine. Seeking revenge, she transforms into Dark Phoenix. While Xavier could barely contain the Dark Phoenix, the Sh'iar appears and Lilandra decrees that the Dark Phoenix must be destroyed before anymore harm can come to the universe. Xavier challenges Lilandra to a "Duel of Honour", but the fight was too much for Jean to handle, and she eventually transforms back into the Dark Phoenix.
Wolverine tries to reach out to her, but while the bond she shared with Scott was strong enough, hers with Wolverine was too weak to live up to that task, "and a Wolverine is anything but a calming influence". The Phoenix Force spirals out of control, and in a sudden burst of power, everyone and everything in the entire universe is destroyed.
LadyVader
05-30-2006, 07:57 AM
Unfortunately, that is a What if and therefor not canon, but it does have a point.
PikaZeroX
05-30-2006, 08:10 AM
Was there seriously something on his tombstone?
Yes, as far as I know it was only in the version of the film I saw, which only a few people witnessed.
It was titled "X-Men: Rubbin' it in Your Face", and it opens with Wolverine saying "I'm Wolverine, I'm the most important, and I love this Jean Grey person more than Cyclops even though I've known her for about 4 days tops."
Apparently another different scene was the funeral in the middle of the film, where Cyclops wasn't even mentioned! Good thing that only happened in this exclusive version right?
Pizzaboy1138
05-30-2006, 08:19 AM
Good thing that only happened in this exclusive version right?
You're right.
In my version Scott and Jean lived happily ever after and Scott's new bike was made out of adamantium.
vanillacyke
05-30-2006, 08:27 AM
I still can't believe that I can't see this movie. Utter bull**** I've loved the X-Men since I was 5 this is CRAP! Why does this world hate me so much. Stupid bastards f***ing over Cyke, I swear I could kill someone.
Nightwing 007
05-30-2006, 08:48 AM
This film was bad on so many levels,it's not even funny. Unless Cyclops somehow comes back,(since they couldn't even kill him onscreen properly) I don't even want to consider a X4.
Let them do a Wolverine film,so they can finish their Fox contract.Hopefully Marvel's film division will do well & someday we'll get a better X-Men movie down the road...
D-scythe
05-30-2006, 08:51 AM
Why does everyone want Cyclops to come back? What the hell does he have to come back to? A team that could only say, "they killed Kenny!", or Storm being the leader, or Xavier who picked him apart in front of Storm, or Jean with Logan?
Besides, if Scott isn't a major player in a freakin Phoenix story, he's going to be playing second fiddle to Logan in just about EVERYTHING as well. It would just be more Scott bashing and Logan-worship. No thanks.
Nathan
05-30-2006, 08:54 AM
As long as X-Men is Fox property, I think I'd rather have Cykes stay dead.
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