Batman Vs. Superman Who Would Win

[boywonder13]

Who would win!

[dnno1]

http://www.parnass.scram.de/neu_06_99/bathulk_kleinrechts.jpg
Batman vs. The Hulk

Granted, Batman does posess a shard of Kryptonite, which was given to him by Superman incase he went rogue, and Batman has outwitted the Hulk. I do have to give Batman a lot of credit for his detective prowess, physical and mental conditioning, and fighting skills. Unfortunately in a knock-down drag out fight between he and Superman I can only conclude that this will happen:

http://www.x-human.net/images/batman_versus_superman.jpg
Batman vs. Superman

[boywonder13]

You're right Batman is ready to take on Superman. He would look forward to beating the man of steel.

[hippie_hunter]

Superman can beat Superman :confused:

[dnno1]

You're right Superman is ready to take on Superman. He would look forward to beating the man of steel.
:confused:

[boywonder13]

Batman can beat Superman.He has weapons that cna beat a whoel army and all he needs is kryponite gun.

[boywonder13]

Oops I meant Batman is ready to take on Superman. Thanks for qouting me though!

[The Kid]

batman is smarter than lex luthor and if lex gives supes so much trouble, batman should be able to hand his ass to him easily.

[GreenLantern1]

Just recently in the comics Superman beat Batman half to death. Unless Batman uses Kryptonite there is no way in hell he can beat Superman. Batman can punch and throw baterangs at Superman all day and Superman could just stand there. Superman could punch Batman so hard his head would explode.

[boywonder13]

Look at his picture of Batman kicking Superman's a**!

http://batman.ugo.com/images/galleries/batman_thedarkknightreturns_comics/batman_thedarkknightreturns_3.jpg

[boywonder13]

Batman is more hard edge and street smart than Superman. Batman fights in a dark city with the police against him fighting lunatics like The Joker, Scarcrow and others.

While Superman lives in a bright happy city and is loved by all. Fighting against Mxy, and other colorful people.

Batman has never even been killed! IThey has a had a hand to hand fight (without Supermans powers) Batman would own him.

He is the worlds greatest Martial Artist.

[boywonder13]

Batman owns Superman hard!

[dpm07]

Given time to prepare, Batman. In a straight up battle no time to prepare, Superman.

[GL1]

In a movie? Batman would win on a physical level, due to kryptonite and some creativity, while Superman would win on an emotional and conceptual level, winning Batman to his cause... and then they'd go hand some poor villain his ass...

[Ratcrawler]

Here's the way I see it; The question isn't really who would win in a fight. Because the results of one fight vary on so many different factors of environment, strategy and often pure luck. A better question might be who would win more victories after a hundred fights or a thousand fights even. KOs or fights to the death? Clean fights or anything goes?

I think a better question would be why would either one win?

Batman would win because...

He's had the underdog factor going for him. He has no superpowers per se except for a very large checkbook a vast intellect and more fighting experience than most people could imagine. He represents the boundless possibilities a baseline human can achieve if they put their minds to their mission in life. He's the champion of the unpowered and that's exactly what everybody in the real world is.

Superman would win because...

Not only is he the first of the modern superheroes (This excludes legends like Hercules and Paul Bunyan) His powers are near godlike and he is the measuring stick against which all heroes are measured. The very laws of physics bend to his will. If he wanted to, he alone could destroy or enslave earth in any of a million possible ways but instead of using his abilities to achieve absolute power he chooses to shine as a beacon of truth and righteousness.


So, suppose the World is coming to an end (in real life) and DC decides to have a last superhero standing match in their very last comic ever. Batman and Superman have to fight to the death. My money's on Superman. It all started with him and it will end with him.

[boywonder13]

Batman was always prepared to take on Superman.

[boywonder13]

Batman is always prepared to take on Superman.

[Peyton Westlake]

What I think Miller's version was, someone in DC asked him to come up with a plausible way that Batman can beat Superman. Arguably 1 of the best writers,Frank Miller, came up with the only thing that can beat Superman...kryptonite. You have to know deep down, without that, Batman stands no chance against the Superman. Case closed.

[Timstuff]

Batman would beat Superman because he'd wait till the conditions are right before taking him on. He'd wait for like, a solar eclipse or something so that his powers won't be at their peak, and then he'd pummel him with kryptonite-studded brass knuckles.

[Peyton Westlake]

You see again, you're missing the point. He has to wait for a solar eclipse, use kryptonite studded brass knuckles, wait for right time. He cant beat him fairly. What if Superman fought him on an avg. sunny day w/out BAtman knowing he was in for it? Supes would destroy him.

[Timstuff]

The answer is simple: Batman would find a way to escape or cause a diversion that would allow him to. He would never take on Superman if he was at full power and/or he didn't have any kryptonite handy.

[Peyton Westlake]

Right exactly, Batman would have to escape...run & hide for his life. Which proves Superman would win on any given day.

[boywonder13]

Batman can take on an army with his arsenal.

[Superman IS GOD]

Batman has never even been killed! IThey has a had a hand to hand fight (without Supermans powers) Batman would own him.

He is the worlds greatest Martial Artist.

I'm sorry but I don't see martial arts being a factor if Batman were facing Doomsday.

[CLARKY]

not-again.

[boywonder13]

Batman has outsmarted the Hulk. I bet he can do the same thing with the original (dumb) Doomsday.

[Guyverjay]

Batman has outsmarted the Hulk. I bet he can do the same thing with the original (dumb) Doomsday.

The crappy Hulk/Batman crossover was retarded so no Batman isn't doing jack squat to Doomsday apart from getting butt****ed all over Gotham:o

[boywonder13]

If batman hasn't died and he is mortal and Superman has even though he is invunerable (to some degree) . Who is better. Batman would use his gadgets against doomsday not hand to hand like foolish Superman.

[Guyverjay]

You call THAT logic?:confused:

What gadget at the time of Death of Superman could Batman have possibly used to take down Doomsday

[Dark Knight]

human over the alien...anyday of the week.

[Superman IS GOD]

Even if batman had the gadgets and whatnot Superman still could just burn the **** out of him with heat vision or use some other power. Superman would probably know to keep as much distance as possible because Batman is a tricky bastard.

And Doomsday would OWN Batman.

[boywonder13]

How about I start a Batman vs. Doomsday thread and see what people think! A bat rocket to the head. No more doomsday!

[boywonder13]

I have created a thread in DC comics Forum. Batman vs. Doomsday. The Ultimate Show Down.

[LanternFan]

In every Bats vs. Supes fight, y'know who wins?


Time Warner..............yukyukyuk

It's been played out both ways already.

And if anybody think Bats could take on Doomsday needs to learn more about Doomsday. The thought is rediculous.

[boywonder13]

Lantern Fan You're not that smart. I know alot about doomsday.

[BK]

Ok, I'm a Batman first and foremost, but c'mon. The only real reason he has whooped every single DC character out there is because it's the fun thing to do and it makes him look more bad-ass.

There's no way in hell a human will ever beat the likes of Supes or Doomsday in a straight up one-on-one. None.

[Harlekin]

Nobody saw it fit to comment on this?

People would think that Superman would beat Batman, but in the Dark Knight Returns, by Frank miller. Batman actually KILLS Superman. This battle is not one sided at all. What do you guys Think.
Who has a simulated heart attack at the end of their battle? Yeah, that was Batman. Superman didn't die. Read the Dark Knight again.

Even than, Batman had the help of Green Arrow with a kryptonite arrow, had to put on some major armor, and above all, Superman had been severely weakened by the nuke he tried to stop.

Batman doesn't stand a chance in a real straight-up fight.

[LanternFan]

Lantern Fan You're not that smart. I know alot about doomsday.

I may not be as smart as you, but I know you're supposed to use capital letters at the beginning of a sentence.

[dnno1]

I may not be as smart as you, but I know you're supposed to use capital letters at the beginning of a sentence.
And for names and words in a title, which is what I think you meant to say.

[dnno1]

I am still not convinced. I still think that the first (which would be the last) blow would be this:

http://khoipham.com/images/supevbatsweb.jpg
Batman vs. Superman by Khoi Pham

[LanternFan]

Yes. Methinks this boy wonder may, in actuality, be neither.

[IronLion]

the reason a lot of people are saying batman is because, imo, they are using their hearts, not their heads. i would like batman to win, but realistically, supes would kill him. all supes has to do is fart in his direction and bats will be dead

[GL1]

Realistically, Batman should not exist...

Even if we widen our suspension of belief just a bit to include the impossibility of Batman, there's still no way he should be able to beat Clayface, Poison Ivy, Ra's Al Ghul, Mr Freeze, other automatic gunfire, Bane, Scarecrow's drug, Lady Shiva, or Killer Croc...

But he does... it's not much more of a stretch for him to be able to pull out some kryptonite on a conservative fighter like Superman... I could see if Superman didn't have a green rock that made him a kitten, but, guys... I could beat superman... Batman would massacre him...

[Harlekin]

Realistically, Batman should not exist...

Even if we widen our suspension of belief just a bit to include the impossibility of Batman, there's still no way he should be able to beat Clayface, Poison Ivy, Ra's Al Ghul, Mr Freeze, other automatic gunfire, Bane, Scarecrow's drug, Lady Shiva, or Killer Croc...

But he does... it's not much more of a stretch for him to be able to pull out some kryptonite on a conservative fighter like Superman... I could see if Superman didn't have a green rock that made him a kitten, but, guys... I could beat superman... Batman would massacre him...
Its actually that type of thinking that is both completely wrong and only serves to strengthen the resolve of the Bat-fanboys. You could not beat Superman. If you had your own piece of Kryptonite, you couldn't. If all Superman could do was hit really hard, than yes, but he can do so much more.

[IronLion]

ice breath and freeze him or heat vision and burn him. all can be done from distance. even if bats had some kryptonite. supes, from a distance could fly at him at super speed, by the time the kryptonite affects him, the momentum would already carry him into bats and kill him.

[JackBauer]

*sigh* boywonder sounds annoyingly like JPlaya...

[DrVenkman90]

Batman

[J.R.]

If Superman showed up to fight Batman without warning....Superman..any day.

[batman44]

Superman can beat Batman, though Bats might (a big might) get a victory here and there.

[GL1]

Its actually that type of thinking that is both completely wrong and only serves to strengthen the resolve of the Bat-fanboys. You could not beat Superman. If you had your own piece of Kryptonite, you couldn't. If all Superman could do was hit really hard, than yes, but he can do so much more.

He CAN do just about anything, but he doesn't...

If I had superman's powers, nuisances like Lex Luthor, Metallo and, on a good day, Darkseid would be a thing of the past. There would be no fight scenes, there would be massacres. On "SuperGL1," Lexcorp would be liquidated, if not financially, then physically, Apokolips would be delegated to a non death-monger, and relative scrubs like Cyborg, Parasite, Mongul and "Zod" would never be heard from twice.

But Superman doesn't do all that, because he is Superman... not superyou, not superme, not Super-everyman or Super-anyman but he is a person with a very strict code of conduct... he has lines he would rather die than cross... that's why I respect him, unlike, say Supreme, or Apollo... or Hyperion or even Mr. Majestic. But, these self imposed limits for the greater good are also what allows Batman to defeat him... sometimes it's crap when Batman outperforms or outright *****slaps Superman, but sometimes, it's right on the money.

[portalcomics]

look, this is what I think, given time to prepare Batman could probably devise a plan that would exploit Superman's weaknesses and find a way to beat him. But in an impromptu attack, Supes could break Bats' neck before he blinked. It's a no brainer. Big Blue wins.


:supes:

[Superman79]

as big of a Superman supproter I am, I also love Batman and have to admit that Batman could and would outhtink and outwit Superman and ultimately...after getting a severe ass beating....beat Superman.

But of course...since we are discussing the movie...i think it will come to a draw before they team up to take down the real bad guys

[Dr. Fate]

http://www.parnass.scram.de/neu_06_99/bathulk_kleinrechts.jpg
Batman vs. The Hulk

Granted, Batman does posess a shard of Kryptonite, which was given to him by Superman incase he went rogue, and Batman has outwitted the Hulk. I do have to give Batman a lot of credit for his detective prowess, physical and mental conditioning, and fighting skills. Unfortunately in a knock-down drag out fight between he and Superman I can only conclude that this will happen:

http://www.x-human.net/images/batman_versus_superman.jpg
Batman vs. Superman

Oh yeah, Kryptonite or no Kryptonite, Superman would OWN Batman.

[jaydawg]

Dude, Batman got the **** knocked out of him by Superman twice within three months. I'm so sick of this retard question. I love Batman way more than Superman, but the question is so dumb. Superman would pwn Batman. Batman is the ultimate planner...well whats the plan when Supes flys up and uses heat vision?

[CHEZ]

If Lex Luthor can beat Superman, then Batman can aswell.

[Oldguy]

I'd say who ever went on the offensive first wins.

If Batman planned it, he could beat Superman. If Superman launched a surprise attack, Batman wouldn't stand a chance.

[i_play_SEGA]

i like batman's chances.

[JackBauer]

simply put: this is what would happen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/gmmflu/Action829.jpg

[LEDZEPPELIN]

In a movie setting(which tends to be more down to earth and realistic when it comes to science fiction logic), Batman should absolutely have no chance against Superman whatsoever!!!!

[Dr. Fate]

http://www.x-human.net/images/batman_versus_superman.jpg I think this pic says it all.

[Sarge]

No more Batman vs. threads, please. :(

[pinkerton726]

Superman all the way. Without kryptonite Batman doesn't have a chance. And with it, Superman still outsmarts him and then tosses Batman around.

[Omega Red]

Superman has this one hands down

[Sarge]

Why is this thread still alive? :(

[dnno1]

Don't kill the thread until it ends up a tie. I know you Batman fans want it to die right now so that it would look like more people chose Bats over Supes, but I don't think that that is trully the case.

[Sarge]

No, it should die because it's a dumb thread.

[dnno1]

You guys have no humor whatsoever.

[Sarge]

You guys have no humor whatsoever.
Was the post above my previous one supposed to be a joke? :o

[LostSon88]

To finally end speculation...

Batman vs. Superman man-to-man: SUPERMAN :supes:
Batman vs. Superman man-to-kryptonite infected Superman: BATMAN :batman:
Batman vs. Superman brains vs. brawn: SUPERMAN :supes:

Nuff' said.

Now this thread can die... :up:

[Sarge]

To finally end speculation...

Batman vs. Superman man-to-man: SUPERMAN :supes:
Batman vs. Superman man-to-kryptonite infected Superman: BATMAN :batman:
Batman vs. Superman brains vs. brawn: SUPERMAN :supes:

Nuff' said.

Now this thread can die... :up:How exactly does Superman win in a brains versus brawn match? To my knowledge he doesn't even have super intellect anymore.

[LostSon88]

How exactly does Superman win in a brains versus brawn match? To my knowledge he doesn't even have super intellect anymore.

Sorry, what I meant was Batman using his brains in a fight vs. Superman using his brawn in a fight, Supes would still win. :O

Now this thread can die :up:

[dnno1]

Was the post above my previous one supposed to be a joke? :o

I guess it wouldn't if you have no humor. What I was refering to was the other posts in this thread.

[user123456789]

simply put: this is what would happen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/gmmflu/Action829.jpg
i dont get it. what did superman do to batman?

[Sarge]

i dont get it. what did superman do to batman?
Beat the living crap out of him.

[Kmack]

Without prep time: Supes
With prep time: Bats

[Mr. Socko]

I love Batman, but Superman would win in a fight. The only way Batman would even stand a small chance is cheating by using a little Kryptonite.

[i_play_SEGA]

if batman has time

[RDK]

Stupidest. Thread. Ever. I can't believe Batman is leading in the poll. The *only* way Batman could even hope to win is if he had kryptonite, and even then, if Superman knew that he had kryptonite, he could incinerate Bats from a distance with his heat vision. Or throw a building on top of him.

[Sarge]

Stupidest. Thread. Ever. I can't believe Batman is leading in the poll. The *only* way Batman could even hope to win is if he had kryptonite, and even then, if Superman knew that he had kryptonite, he could incinerate Bats from a distance with his heat vision. Or throw a building on top of him.
He'd need an assload of kryptonite anyway, the K-ring and a small chunk in the utility belt don't cut the mustard anymore.

[DrVenkman90]

I don't think they would ever fight. But if they did this is how it would go down. Superman would fly around all stupid and out in the open like always. Batman would be concealed in the shadows. Then Batman would shoot him with a kryptonight bullet. Being Batman he would shoot him a few more times to make sure.

[Sarge]

I don't think they would ever fight. But if they did this is how it would go down. Superman would fly around all stupid and out in the open like always. Batman would be concealed in the shadows. Then Batman would shoot him with a kryptonight bullet. Being Batman he would shoot him a few more times to make sure.
You officially fail at life. :down

[Dr.HugoStrange]

this should end the debate. In Kingdom Come superman is directly hit by a nuclear bomb and only his clothes rip a little. What the crap is Bats going to do about that. Plus in DKR Miller put his own spin on Superman cause of his own political/social views. In Batman Hush, Batman socks Superman twice with the kryptonite ring and if he would have hit him a third time he would have broke his hand. Also, Batman acknowledges that Sups is holding back using freeze breath instead of strength .

[cpfunk]

The truth is that Batman is always willing to do what the other guy isn't. It's not about power, friendship, or stamina, it's about doing the unthinkable, Superman is bound by laws, truth , justice, and the right choice. For Batman, it is what ever will feed the demon it's due.

[IronLion]

why dont you guys get it?????

straight out fight. superman would kill batman, easy. no ifs, no buts, all facts.
:supes:

[JackBauer]

The truth is that Batman is always willing to do what the other guy isn't. It's not about power, friendship, or stamina, it's about doing the unthinkable, Superman is bound by laws, truth , justice, and the right choice. For Batman, it is what ever will feed the demon it's due.

Batman may not have the same kind of attitude as Superman, but they do share most of their values. the unthinkable, for Batman, would be taking a life. and like Superman, that's just something he'd refuse to do.

I don't think they would ever fight. But if they did this is how it would go down. Superman would fly around all stupid and out in the open like always. Batman would be concealed in the shadows. Then Batman would shoot him with a kryptonight bullet. Being Batman he would shoot him a few more times to make sure.

right... except for the simple fact that Batman would never pick up a gun. :rolleyes:

[Andella]

I don't think they would ever fight. But if they did this is how it would go down. Superman would fly around all stupid and out in the open like always. Batman would be concealed in the shadows. Then Batman would shoot him with a kryptonight bullet. Being Batman he would shoot him a few more times to make sure.

Well-that scenario only works if you totally change Batman's values and philosophy to allow him to kill (or risk killing ) Superman. But I notice you don't allow Superman the same release from his normal way of holding back. If Superman was trying to kill Batman as hard as you seem to allow Batman to be attempting to kill or at least risk severely injuring Superman there would be no contest ever- Superman can attack faster and from such a distance as to render any mortal unable to evade the attack-and his attacks can be something as simple as hurling a meteor at Bruce from space- by the time Bruce sees it coming (at speeds so high its probably not too far under light speed) he is dead. Superman has the ability to attack using his vision at the speed of light from just on the horizon and he can detect (see and hear) Batman from that far away and he can do all of this moving so fast himself no one could gain a target lock on him in return. As for the idea that Superman can't evade a bullet- any bullet from a gun would be moving in slow motion to what Superman can evade. So if you allow both heros to use all their abilities in full with no holding back there is no contest-sorry


Andella

[CConn]

Well-that scenario only works if you totally change Batman's values and philosophy to allow him to kill (or risk killing ) Superman. But I notice you don't allow Superman the same release from his normal way of holding back. If Superman was trying to kill Batman as hard as you seem to allow Batman to be attempting to kill or at least risk severely injuring Superman there would be no contest ever- Superman can attack faster and from such a distance as to render any mortal unable to evade the attack-and his attacks can be something as simple as hurling a meteor at Bruce from space- by the time Bruce sees it coming (at speeds so high its probably not too far under light speed) he is dead. Superman has the ability to attack using his vision at the speed of light from just on the horizon and he can detect (see and hear) Batman from that far away and he can do all of this moving so fast himself no one could gain a target lock on him in return. As for the idea that Superman can't evade a bullet- any bullet from a gun would be moving in slow motion to what Superman can evade. So if you allow both heros to use all their abilities in full with no holding back there is no contest-sorry


AndellaThe problem with that is, even without removing the no-killing bar, Batman still fights dirtier than Superman. Look at Hush were Batman had Lois dropped off of a building. Superman would never employ techniques such as that that could harm other people. Batman will. He take chances Superman. Give Batman enough time and he will invent a way to beat Superman. He'll trick him, he'll endanger his loved ones, he'll hurt him. And do it all without a second thought. Superman could never do that, and that's why Batman usually wins against him.

[BrlntDsgse]

People would think that Superman would beat Batman, but in the Dark Knight Returns, by Frank miller. Batman actually KILLS Superman. This battle is not one sided at all. What do you guys Think.

Ummm.......while I gotta agree with you that the battle isn't one sided I must ask......what Dark Knight Returns were you reading where Batman KILLS Superman, cause in my copy he just kicks the snot outta him.....and then BATMAN "dies".

[Andella]

The problem with that is, even without removing the no-killing bar, Batman still fights dirtier than Superman. Look at Hush were Batman had Lois dropped off of a building. Superman would never employ techniques such as that that could harm other people. Batman will. He take chances Superman. Give Batman enough time and he will invent a way to beat Superman. He'll trick him, he'll endanger his loved ones, he'll hurt him. And do it all without a second thought. Superman could never do that, and that's why Batman usually wins against him.

That's not proving much-all you are showing is that Superman would willingly sacrifice himself for most humans, especially those he truly cares about and loves. That's not really winning if your opponent gives up willingly (well it surely means you survive and they are at your mercy and can be killed but it doesn't mean you beat them if they throw the fight (just like someone in boxing isn't much of a winner and surely didn't beat anyone even if they are the new champion if the fight was fixed and their opponent threw the fight). So Batman can be declared the winner (sorta like being declared the winner in a sporting event due to the other team not showing up- do you really brag about the win then even if it counts on your stats?). Batman can also kill superman if he employs such tactics (given certain equiptment)-but he can't beat Superman-all he can do is convince him to throw the fight. And thats not saying a lot because almost anyone can manage that given a few resources which seem common enough amonst super criminals. Basically anyone can do that with superman given some kyrponite, some technical know-how and a hostage. Just endanger the hostages life in such a fashion that Superman can not save them himself (swallowed radio controlled explosives maybe-if the signal cuts out the explosives blow-heart, stomach lungs shredded-hostage dead in superman's arms). Demand superman swallow kyrptonite in exchange for hostage's life, confirm he swallowed it (geiger counter-whatever tech device you wish to confirm)-wait for him to weaken -be affected ( see if he can bleed ) then kill him-end of superman-virtually ANYONE with a few thousand dollars and one pellet of kryptonite can kill superman if he willingly swallows it (or think up some other means for him to willingly sacrifice himself-he will go along to save innocent lives. You win because he throws the fight because thats the kind of person he is (where as if he were different he might go get one of your loved ones and play exchange of hostages if he were blood thirsty enough for you to believe he would harm them. Sorry- don't see this as much of a win for Batman if thats the way he has to win. If Batman can't win except by having Superman throw the fight becasue innocents are endangered then he isn't worth of the title of someone who beat Superman.

Andella

[Laa Dee Dah]

Please for the love of God stop.

[wyzewun]

this is a ridiculous thread.......if its a fight between the two characters then its gotta get physical....Supes will win hands down! Batman fans stop kidding yourself! statements such as "if batman had time", or "if he had kryptonite".....or the ever famous "he fights dirty" argument is so stupid....If superman were just plain pissed and back handed the bat end of story game over time for dick to b the caped crusader......batman can not fight superman,nuff said! the truth is batman stands no better chance of beating superman than any other human being!

[wyzewun]

this is a ridiculous thread.......if its a fight between the two characters then its gotta get physical....Supes will win hands down! Batman fans stop kidding yourself! statements such as "if batman had time", or "if he had kryptonite".....or the ever famous "he fights dirty" argument is so stupid....If superman were just plain pissed and back handed the bat end of story game over time for dick to b the caped crusader......batman can not fight superman,nuff said! the truth is batman stands no better chance of beating superman than any other human being!

[daveswb]

Look at his picture of Batman kicking Superman's a**!

http://batman.ugo.com/images/galleries/batman_thedarkknightreturns_comics/batman_thedarkknightreturns_3.jpg

That's a picture from the dark knight returns. No infact Superman is not killed ny Batman there. Batman uses Kryptonite on him first and then starts fighting him. Getting in a few cheap shots. After Supes gets away from the Kryptonite the armor Bats is wearing breaks when it hit Supes. And Superman kills batman. Though we find out later he faked his death.

[terry78]

Mentally, Batman. He's been the only one throughout history to call it as he sees it when it comes to Superman, and has no problem on striking nerves with him.

[TIM BURTONSUCKS]

Without Kryptonite i would have to say Superman! With kryptonite i would have to say Batman...He's a combat Genius! While Superman is Strong! the ultimate battle of BRAINS V.S BRAWN...

[JackBauer]

Mentally, Batman. He's been the only one throughout history to call it as he sees it when it comes to Superman, and has no problem on striking nerves with him.

you mean something like "The last time you really inspired anyone was when you were dead."? :up:

[Carter]

Batman.
He doesnt even need prep-time to face Superman anymore.

He's always prepared to take him down.
He's got the ring, and we all know he's got contingencies


Im willing to bet he's synthesized an assload of Kryptonite.

[we_are_venom]

better than that.. superman vs green lantern. i say lantern.


p.s. batman pwns superman and would win.with or without kryptonite. i really shouldnt even have to say why because the reasons are so obvious.

[rscal]

um if they actually wrote superman with all his powers all of the time he would beat basically anybody, especially someone with no powers. too fast too strong but most writers downplay or totally forget superman's superspeed when he fights.

[rscal]

That's a picture from the dark knight returns. No infact Superman is not killed ny Batman there. Batman uses Kryptonite on him first and then starts fighting him. Getting in a few cheap shots. After Supes gets away from the Kryptonite the armor Bats is wearing breaks when it hit Supes. And Superman kills batman. Though we find out later he faked his death.
bats also had help from green arrow

[Schmuk]

Batman.
He doesnt even need prep-time to face Superman anymore.

He's always prepared to take him down.
He's got the ring, and we all know he's got contingencies


Im willing to bet he's synthesized an assload of Kryptonite.

I thought he gave that ring back to Superman incase Kara went bad.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/Schmuk/DCFanboy2.jpg

[Logan Howlett]

Here it comes again! very similar to the wolverine batman debate, but in this case I do have to hand it to bats. Unfortunately supes doesnt have a speck of skill, without the powers he IS clark kent. I think we all know how easy it is for him to lose those powers, namely kryptonit or removal from the yellow sun. But bats has much more brain power and skill, given that and his multibillion dollar company, kryptonite aint to hard to get a hold of. (seeing as how you can find it every six feet in smallville) But honestly Batman has the edge if he didnt than id tell ya, just like i did on the bats vs wolvie thread...hehehe....but anywho, just to give the possiblility to those fans who would keel over if supes bit the dust buy a guy in a rubber nippled suit, hypotheticaly..........if the two of the were one on one no gadgets or kryptnite....in a sealed adimantium room, with no ventalation, with a spec of sunlight for supes to keep the juice, and no assistance whatsoever, than sure supes would tear him into batfries,so there youve got yer fairytail ending................ya big babies.........lol just kiddin...

[Triligors]

That's a tricky one. Does Bats have kryptonite near by and is prepared? If not, Supes could easily win.

[Dr. Fate]

That's a tricky one. Does Bats have kryptonite near by and is prepared? If not, Supes could easily win.

I'm sure that if Superman applied just a little bit of thought/creativity he could defeat Batman, Kryptonite and all.

[terry78]

Superman isn't smarter than Batman, though. And I don't think it's an act of false naivite on his part.

[Steelsheen]

I'm sure that if Superman applied just a little bit of thought/creativity he could defeat Batman, Kryptonite and all.
"thought/ creativity"= meaning that the Boy Scout should try to bend the rules a little bit? ;)

[Polux]

Putting it simple, the only reason why Bats has won in the past and would win again, is because unlike Superman, he´s willing to do whatever is necesary, people say that Superman could fly at top speed and crush Bats´ head in a nanosecond, ok, he could, but he WOULDN´T, that what you would do if you had Superman´s powers, but Superman would never do that, his morals and compassion are his weakness, and Batman knows that and he´s an expert on exploiding (sp?) people´s weaknesses.

Polux

P.D : I´m a big Batman fan, he´s my favorite character, but I´m trying to be as objective as possible.

[cabel]

In a fight: Superman

In a debate: Batman

[Eyeballing]

Batman is more hard edge and street smart than Superman. Batman fights in a dark city with the police against him fighting lunatics like The Joker, Scarcrow and others.

While Superman lives in a bright happy city and is loved by all. Fighting against Mxy, and other colorful people.

Batman has never even been killed! IThey has a had a hand to hand fight (without Supermans powers) Batman would own him.

He is the worlds greatest Martial Artist.

Wrong.

[Eyeballing]

If Superman really wanted to he would cave Batman's head in with a sneeze.

[newmexneon]

The Kypto ring hardly even affects Superman any more, besides Supes could just throw a car or something big and heavy at Batman and Batman goes "Squish".

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

Who really wins if batman and superman fight ..... i think we all do lol

[KaptainKrypton]

Depending on the circumstances is how my choice would be chosen. If it were a toe-to-toe slugfest, of course Batman dies a horribly, quick death, which is why I chose Superman. However, if it were an actual contest of wits AND combat, then Batman has the edge in spades. I've always said that he is what would happen if Lex Luthor were a Super-Hero (and it's why I love exchanges between the two). He's such a damn-good strategist that he could probably take over a major country with a couple of Batarangs and one, maybe two cans of Bat-Shark Repellent! Seriously, though, Batman thinks in ways (underhanded and sneaky amongst them) that Superman cannot fathom. Superman is used to tackling a problem head-on, while Batman searches until he finds a bug in the system or a chink in the armor, or a passage around back. IF Superman fought dirty, then it would be a better fight, but giving Batman all of his machinations and squaring off is a dangerous proposition even for Big Blue.

[The Riddler]

superman has no chance.

clark can never win, because he's too good a person.

batman will do what it takes.

[dnno1]

This is what would happen, guys, I swear:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/other%20stuff/9.jpg

[Spoarz™]

If Superman really wanted to he would cave Batman's head in with a sneeze.

:up:

[Cinemaman]

Just have voted for Superman.

[Logan Howlett]

OH MY GOD! This thread has been dead an buried for so long! WHY DID YOU AWAKEN THE DEAD?!!!!!

But just because I wana argue with fanboys: Superman has NO, I repeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO skill!!!!! No martial arts, no nothing! And Bats would figure a way to remove his powers easily! Not to mention the fact that Supes is to big a pussy to kill!

[Victor Creed]

OH MY GOD! This thread has been dead an buried for so long! WHY DID YOU AWAKEN THE DEAD?!!!!!

But just because I wana argue with fanboys: Superman has NO, I repeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO skill!!!!! No martial arts, no nothing! And Bats would figure a way to remove his powers easily! Not to mention the fact that Supes is to big a pussy to kill!

Let me put it in terms the rest of you might understand.

Bale kicks Routh's ass.

[JackBauer]

OH MY GOD! This thread has been dead an buried for so long! WHY DID YOU AWAKEN THE DEAD?!!!!!

But just because I wana argue with fanboys: Superman has NO, I repeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO skill!!!!! No martial arts, no nothing! And Bats would figure a way to remove his powers easily! Not to mention the fact that Supes is to big a pussy to kill!

so many wrongs things with this post I don't quite know where to begin...

[Logan Howlett]

Try me........

[Pickle-El]

This is what would happen, guys, I swear:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/other%20stuff/9.jpg


That had me ****ting myself with laughter.....

[blksuperman2]

That had me ****ting myself with laughter.....

That is hilarous. But what does RETCON mean?

Oh and for the versus thing. Everyone does know that Supes can target Bats from outerspace with his Telescopic vision and use his heat vision to fry Bats. So it's really not a fight.

[terry78]

That is hilarous. But what does RETCON mean?

Oh and for the versus thing. Everyone does know that Supes can target Bats from outerspace with his Telescopic vision and use his heat vision to fry Bats. So it's really not a fight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon

[blksuperman2]

Cool thanks Terry78

[TwilightPro101]

Bats.

[GarudA]

Come on, If Superman really wanted to beat Batman he would end up killing him, which he would not due. People forget that all Superman has to due is just one quick super breath and bats would be blown away.

[Katsuro]

Come on, If Superman really wanted to beat Batman he would end up killing him, which he would not due. People forget that all Superman has to due is just one quick super breath and bats would be blown away.

Yeah, theoretically Superman should be able to beat Batman. Flight + Laser vision = unbeatable by someone who can't fly. Superman's just not smart enough to do it... Which is why Batman wins. Brains > Brawn.

[VENTURE]

:supes: The Man Of Steel hands Down....All he needs is to fire one burst of lazer from the super eyes fro a distance of say 100miles and bats would be dead.......................................Lets face it guys B ats is good but he is only flesh and bones. Bats can hang on to that green rock all he wants to.:batman:

[terry78]

The question is not whether he could, but whether he would. Superman would never go so far as to kill Batman. Batman, on the other hand, if he figured him a big enough threat, would kryptonite his ass to oblivion. You see how he talks to Supes, and he knows full well how powerful he is, but he doesn't always respect him like that.

[Spike_x1]

I can't believe that I'm actually responding to this thread, but I'm bored, so...

Why wouldn't Superman just do exactly what he did in "Lex Luthor: Man of Steel" and just blow the kryptonite right out of Batman's hands, then commence to beat the snot out of the Bat?

Note that I would like to see a World's Finest movie some day, but asking who would win in a fight is kind of a dumb question unless it's an adaptation of the DKR battle (where Batman had a nuclear winter blocking the sun, Superman weakened by a nuclear bomb, a tank, a dozen missiles, kryptonite, sonic weapons, and a superpowered suit on his side to help him fight Superman. And even then, the fight was still pretty much a tie).

[Masut]

Superman wouldn't have the heart to kill Batman. Batman will do whatever is necessary.

So Bats gets my vote on this. Although I love both heroes equally. :)

[Dr. Fate]

Superman owns Batman. You know it, too.

[true316]

Superman wouldn't have the heart to kill Batman. Batman will do whatever is necessary.

So Bats gets my vote on this. Although I love both heroes equally. :)

I still don't get this arguement. Batman is darker and more brooding. But I thought that despite there differences in methods there were bound by alot of the same principles. Doesn't Batman have a strict "no killing, no guns" mentality? Shoot, even Superman's used guns before (when he came back from the dead). I know Batman bends the rules sometimes but there are certain lines he doesn't cross. I don't really like the idea of them fighting but if they did Superman would win.

[Sundancer]

why do we have polls like this? :confused:

[Evil Dead 13]

Feh. I detest Superman. As in DETEST. And the reason I detest him is because he's just too powerful. I mean, he has all these fancy powers--and to me, that doesn't count for much. You want someone with guts? You go to Batman. Figure, it takes a lot to sacrifice yourself on a daily basis with nothing but your mind to keep you alive. To me, that's a hero.

But, much as I hate to admit it (in a grr::grumble::grumble kinda way) Superman could defeat Batman, no problem. Super-powers out rank mortal power, no matter how you look at it. (Unless of course Bats were to impliment Kryptonite before Superman knew what was going on--in which case, giddiness would ensue.)

However, if you had an even playing field--one where Superman was reduced to a permanent "Clark Kent" state (for lack of better term), then Batman could take him down, no problem. But of course I am heavily biased in my opinion--Bats has always been my favorite.

[true316]

Feh. I detest Superman. As in DETEST. And the reason I detest him is because he's just too powerful. I mean, he has all these fancy powers--and to me, that doesn't count for much. You want someone with guts? You go to Batman. Figure, it takes a lot to sacrifice yourself on a daily basis with nothing but your mind to keep you alive. To me, that's a hero.


I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this point Evil Dead. I always liked the idea that Batman didn't have advantages like other superheroes. It was a point of uniqueness that I thought was cool. The thing is Batman relies on alot more than his mind to survive; he does have a major advantage. I think that every superhero has an advantage of some kind. For Superman it was being born on another planet. For Spider-man it was being bitten by a radioactive spider. For Batman it is the fact that he was born into an incredibly wealthy family. If you take away the money than Bruce Wayne never could have been become Batman much less maintained the day-to-day pursuit. He was able to finance his travels around the world acquiring martial arts knowledge and detective skills. Bat-computers, bat-costumes, batmobiles, etc. don't come cheap I imagine. Does the fact that he has this advantage make him less of a hero? I've done some thinking and decided the answer is no. It's not that he has an advantage that matters, it's what he does with his advantage that counts.

That's precisely why I think Superman is such a great hero. He has these amazing powers and what does he do with them? Has he used them to acquire great wealth for himself? Has he used them to force his views upon others? Superman chose the way of servant rather than the way of a ruler and I think thats cool. More than anyone else he could live above and beyond the problems of "ordinary" people. But his choice is to help people that he isn't obligated to help. His uncle wasn't killed, people aren't discriminating against him because he's a mutant, his parents weren't gunned down in front of him. He helps people simply because he cares. To me that makes him a great hero.

Even though I disagree with you I respect your opinion. To each his own. :up:

[Spike_x1]

Feh. I detest Superman. As in DETEST. And the reason I detest him is because he's just too powerful.Your entire opinion on this matter falls apart right there as you have shown that you know nothing of Superman compared to the threats that he faces, considering the fact that most of the villains that Superman fights are quite capable of putting a savage beating on him.

Would you consider Spider-man to be too powerful?

[Shuley]

It really depends how the fight is going to go,Is the fight planned ahead of time? Or is it going to be spur of the moment?

Planned fight..Batman Wins

Spontanous Fight...Superman Wins

[Evil Dead 13]

Yus. I freely admit I know absolutely nothing about Superman--but I can't help how I feel about him. I don't like him enough to bother to learn anything about him--but I'm pretty sure it's safe to say he could kick Batman's butt if he really wanted.

And I know Batman has advantages and such--but I'm thinking without his mind, he has nothing. I mean, he could have all the money in the world, but if he didn't know how to use it, it amounts to nothing, you dig? That's why I'm thinking it's his intelligence that keeps him alive.

It's cool that people do like Superman--I mean he is pretty much the first superhero and such. But, he's not for me. And I hate it that he can, in fact, beat Batman. Don't like it one bit, but there it is.

[GL1]

"Who WOULD win" depends on the situation.

In a fight... you just place these two heroes in a room, Superman wins. There's simply no way that Batman, even with Kryptonite, can take out Superman at close ranger (Kryptonite doesn't take effect instantly, and can be covered or pushed away).

In a STORY... Batman and Superman take place in the context of stories... in a universe... and while Superman obviously beats Batman on paper, the INTERESTING stories about conflicts between these two involve Batman coming out on top in some aspect. If Batman doesn't win in a story, why write a story? Why not just have a cage match and be done with it...

So in short, since Batman and Superman (outside of vs threads) are never suddenly thrust into a room to battle to the death, I can only conclude that conflicts between them would take place within the context of a story... and as such, the only interesting alternative is Batman defeating Superman on some level, if not physically, then phillosophically (as in DKR) and thusly, Batman WOULD win, even though Superman SHOULD and CAN win.

[true316]

Yus. I freely admit I know absolutely nothing about Superman--but I can't help how I feel about him. I don't like him enough to bother to learn anything about him--but I'm pretty sure it's safe to say he could kick Batman's butt if he really wanted.

And I know Batman has advantages and such--but I'm thinking without his mind, he has nothing. I mean, he could have all the money in the world, but if he didn't know how to use it, it amounts to nothing, you dig? That's why I'm thinking it's his intelligence that keeps him alive.

It's cool that people do like Superman--I mean he is pretty much the first superhero and such. But, he's not for me. And I hate it that he can, in fact, beat Batman. Don't like it one bit, but there it is.

I understand where you're coming from. It's all good. :up:

[bengali]

I say Sups, if he knocks out batman with one hit, flys him to an open field where he can't grapple anything and drops him from 10'000ft up, Bats goes bye bye, simple as that. Sups can handle the fall bats can't! hands down Sups has this one in the bag! :supes:

[boywondernerdDC]

why is this thread in the movie section?

[TheFalcon]

Batman could take Superman as long as he has some access to Kryptonite and some time to plan the attack. If there's no prep-time and no kryptonite Superman will take it easily.

I'm voting for Supes.

[Captain Kirk]

You're right Batman is ready to take on Superman. He would look forward to beating the man of steel.

DC is foolish to have allowed this farce to go on this long. Batman fanboys are an amazing breed, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bat fans claiming, that with prep time, Batman could take out Q:D Batman is so beneath Superman! Even with Kryptonite, Batman would be either ashes or paste depending on Superman's mood. Or, how would Batman like an all expenses paid trip to the Phantom Zone! They should be friends, and not enemies. Still, Batman would do well to stay on Big Blues good side!:supes:

[celldog]

Even if batman had the gadgets and whatnot Superman still could just burn the **** out of him with heat vision or use some other power. Superman would probably know to keep as much distance as possible because Batman is a tricky bastard.

And Doomsday would OWN Batman.

But that's too logical. :supes:

[celldog]

Batman could take Superman as long as he has some access to Kryptonite and some time to plan the attack. If there's no prep-time and no kryptonite Superman will take it easily.

I'm voting for Supes.


Prep Schmep!!! I am so tired of hearing about Batman's "prep time"!!! Enuff already!!! Do any of every stop to think "WHY" he needs friggin' "PREP TIME" anyway???


IT'S BECAUSE SUPERMAN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HE IS!!! HE WOULD THE FLOOR WITH HIM!!! Look at the OMAC incident with Max Lord. Look at the recent Superman/ Batman where Supes takes out Diana!! The Lex "Man of Steel " series where Batman can't even catch his breath from the super smack down!!!


If you gotta resort to tricks and traps.....come on!!!

[terry78]

Tricks and traps are the nerd way. That's why we like him.

[celldog]

Tricks and traps are the nerd way. That's why we like him.


:down

[The Question]

Here's the deal:



You've seen the damage Superman can do. At the VERY LEAST, his punches have the force of a tactical balistic missile. Probably more since he's been majorly powered up (which I personally have a problem with for different reasons entirely). This means, all Superman would ahve to do is clap his hands together very very hard, and the insueing shockwave would knock Batman on his ass, and most likely the Kryptonite out of his hand. Also, remember, Superman flies faster than Batman can react. All he would have to to is fly away, grab some led, wrap it around his hand, and grab the Kryptonite at high speed. He would then proceed to pimp smack Bruce across town. It's reallt that simple. Unless Batman puts his entire fortune into it or had the help of his allies, he couldn't pull it off. Now working out of the cave. Now, if he bought a super suit or a giant robot off the black market, he might stand a chance. But I'd assume those cost as much as his company.

[celldog]

Here's the deal:



You've seen the damage Superman can do. At the VERY LEAST, his punches have the force of a tactical balistic missile. Probably more since he's been majorly powered up (which I personally have a problem with for different reasons entirely). This means, all Superman would ahve to do is clap his hands together very very hard, and the insueing shockwave would knock Batman on his ass, and most likely the Kryptonite out of his hand. Also, remember, Superman flies faster than Batman can react. All he would have to to is fly away, grab some led, wrap it around his hand, and grab the Kryptonite at high speed. He would then proceed to pimp smack Bruce across town. It's reallt that simple. Unless Batman puts his entire fortune into it or had the help of his allies, he couldn't pull it off. Now working out of the cave. Now, if he bought a super suit or a giant robot off the black market, he might stand a chance. But I'd assume those cost as much as his company.



We agree on something?????????? :eek:

[terry78]

Physically, Supes beats Bats. Mentally, Bats beats Supes. That is the general consensus. It just depends on what you consider being beaten, physically vs. emotionally. Superman could beat Batman to a pulp, however Batman could taunt and chip away at him with verbally and mentally, leaving him an empty shell.

[The Question]

I highly doubt it. Clark is a highly inteligent person in his own right. Bats could talk trash to him, but Clark would probably realise that 's just Bruce trying to psych him out.

[TimDrake64x]

i think it depends on how much supes gets into it. when they faught in the hush series i remember bats put more into it cause "deep down im just not a good person, and clark is" so i think if maybe supes goes crazy and doesnt hold back then he wins but if he doesnt then bats does

[TheGrayGhost]

Dr. Doom is a pretty big threat to the Fantastic Four and to all of the MARVEL universe. Likewise, Lex Luthor is a pretty big threat to Superman and to all of the Justice League. Accordingly, I don't see how anyone can say that Batman (which is equal parts Lex Luthor and Dr. Doom wrapped up in a nice Bat-package) doesn't have a chance against Superman. The odds are certainly in favor of Supes, but Batman can acheive victory if he really, really wanted to. That said, I prefer that the two never fight; they should have minor conflicts over the course of their relationship, but nothing major.

[The Question]

Dr. Doom is a pretty big threat to the Fantastic Four and to all of the MARVEL universe. Likewise, Lex Luthor is a pretty big threat to Superman and to all of the Justice League. Accordingly, I don't see how anyone can say that Batman (which is equal parts Lex Luthor and Dr. Doom wrapped up in a nice Bat-package) doesn't have a chance against Superman. The odds are certainly in favor of Supes, but Batman can acheive victory if he really, really wanted to. That said, I prefer that the two never fight; they should have minor conflicts over the course of their relationship, but nothing major.


But Batman isn't like Doom or Luthor for alot of reasons. First off, Doom and Luthor are alot smarter. Scientifically, at least. They can build giant robots and crap like that. Bats can't. Second, both Luthor and Doom have legions of followers able to do their bidding for them, Luthor in the form of mercenaries and mob hitmen types in his employ, and Doom in the form of the Latverian military. Batman has a small number of oddly dressed vigilantes. And third and most important, Doom and Luthor kill people, or are at least more willing to kill people. Doom would get away from the Famtastic Four by launching a rocket into an office building full of people. Lex knows that you get to Superman by hurting people close to him. Batman doesn't do that, nor would he ever.

[blksuperman2]

But Batman isn't like Doom or Luthor for alot of reasons. First off, Doom and Luthor are alot smarter. Scientifically, at least. They can build giant robots and crap like that. Bats can't. Second, both Luthor and Doom have legions of followers able to do their bidding for them, Luthor in the form of mercenaries and mob hitmen types in his employ, and Doom in the form of the Latverian military. Batman has a small number of oddly dressed vigilantes. And third and most important, Doom and Luthor kill people, or are at least more willing to kill people. Doom would get away from the Famtastic Four by launching a rocket into an office building full of people. Lex knows that you get to Superman by hurting people close to him. Batman doesn't do that, nor would he ever.

Which is why a debate like this will never get answered. Unless one of the 2 is mind-controlled why on earth would they ever fight?

[Ultimate_Superman]

Superman owns Batman

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1626/justice55pw.jpg

[X Patrol]

IMO if they fight it's just a matter of physical strenghth.
Supes wins.

[JackBauer]

why, lord, WHY won't this thread just DIE?! :(

[TheBlueWolf]

This thread can't be killed. It is the TERMINATOR!!! :marv:

But Superman would obviously win, if he was going all out, he would stay a safe distance away from Batman (due to kryptonite) and just bore a hole through Batman's head with intense focused heat vision...LONG before Batman even thought about busting a move!

OR...Superman would hyper speed straight over to Batman, and just biotch slap him all the way into the FUTURE, kind like how FLASH punched ZOOM all the way into the FUTURE. lol

And as far as Bat's kryptonite goes...well, Superman could do some ala Superman II, and just give Batman the KISS OF FORGETFULLNESS, and make him forget all about the kryptonite. :)

[GNR]

I could see Bats using his brains bigtime to bring down the big S.If this ever gets made into a movie,it has block buster smash all over it.

[existence]

People forget is what Superman is. Theres lots of good points here. Superman dosnt kill, batman will do whats nessesary. He dosnt kill either though...

Batman using a Krytonite gun. Superman being faster than a speeding bullet.

Like someone mentioned, its basically who evers writes the story. You could write a story where batman kills superman and make it seem plausible.

The same could be said for superman. I read a post that said that superman wouldnt be smart enough to fly into space and use telescopic/heat vision against Batman. That to me is just idodic thinking. Superman isnt retarded. While he may not be as smart as Batman he is going to understand that if batman cant "hit" him, he will have a superior advantage.

Also ppl here dont look at it "realistically". People say with prep time Bats could do it. Unrealistic. With a guy who can move, fly and think faster that light, what could Batman do to beat him?
Also he basically has unlimited endurance. So Superman can fly mach 20 all day till he sees Batman. Using super hearing/teslescopic vision he could do this for 200 years until he found batman? And without batting an eye, ram into him at full speed. Superman dosnt kill. Ok. So maybe he just rips his arms off. Punches him to knock him out in one hit. either way. Batman has no chance against that EVEN with prep time. So the issue is not whether Batman had preptime but whether Superman knew Batman was out to get him.

Because if Superman knows Baman is out to "stop/kill/beat" him. Realistically, Batman has no chance.

Existence.

[The Question]

Also ppl here dont look at it "realistically". People say with prep time Bats could do it. Unrealistic. With a guy who can move, fly and think faster that light, what could Batman do to beat him?


Superman can't do anything faster than light.

[terry78]

I think the whole issue stems from Batman basically being the only one to call Supes on behavior he thinks is ridiculous or decisions he thinks are wrong. Superman is supposed to be the one everyone looks up, everyone's hero, everyone thinks knows best. Batman respects him, but he doesn't kowtow to him either, and he knows full well he can pull his head off if he wanted.

[nite-owl]

Superman would beat Batman as badly as I want to beat this thread.

[ImperfectIcon]

Batman...he's more intelligent and ruthless, and he knows Supes inside out, as well as the rest of the JLA.

[JackBauer]

Superman would beat Batman as badly as I want to beat this thread.

hehehe, VERY well put :)

[TheGrayGhost]

Also ppl here dont look at it "realistically". People say with prep time Bats could do it. Unrealistic....

While I respect your opinion, you have to realize that nothing about this situation is realistic at all, not Superman or Batman.

[existence]

Super-Speed and the Power of Flight
"From the west, over the city, streaked a familiar red-and-blue figure, grim, determined, dwarfed by the adversary that threatened to deal the city a crushing blow." (Miracle Monday 4)
In the early years of his super-heroic career, Superman was not endowed with the power of flight. Although he possessed superhuman speed, he moved from place to place by running or by executing gigantic leaps. Month by month, however, Superman's running speed increased, along with the length of his leaps and the complexity of the aerial maneuvers he was able to perform once he had left the ground. The transition from leaping to actual flying was extraordinarily gradual and was punctuated with a great deal of inconsistency. Not until May 1943 is Superman explicitly referred to as a "being who can fly like a bird" and not until later that same year can it be said, without qualification, that Superman actually possesses the power of flight.
By 1945, Superman is able to fly from Metropolis to Burma in the wink of an eye. "Light travels 186,000 miles a second, but has nothing on Superman," notes the text, "who finds himself hovering over the jungles of Burma in the wink of an eye!"

source- http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/powers.php

[existence]

While i understand Batman and Superman are not "realistic". But in order to make a logical choice of who would win in a fight we have to examine them realistically. I mean if they were real, who would win in a foot race? ok, so we would look at thier abilities and make a claim to who would win.

The same is no different in any compparison.

existence

[Spike_x1]

Super-Speed and the Power of Flight
"From the west, over the city, streaked a familiar red-and-blue figure, grim, determined, dwarfed by the adversary that threatened to deal the city a crushing blow." (Miracle Monday 4)
In the early years of his super-heroic career, Superman was not endowed with the power of flight. Although he possessed superhuman speed, he moved from place to place by running or by executing gigantic leaps. Month by month, however, Superman's running speed increased, along with the length of his leaps and the complexity of the aerial maneuvers he was able to perform once he had left the ground. The transition from leaping to actual flying was extraordinarily gradual and was punctuated with a great deal of inconsistency. Not until May 1943 is Superman explicitly referred to as a "being who can fly like a bird" and not until later that same year can it be said, without qualification, that Superman actually possesses the power of flight.
By 1945, Superman is able to fly from Metropolis to Burma in the wink of an eye. "Light travels 186,000 miles a second, but has nothing on Superman," notes the text, "who finds himself hovering over the jungles of Burma in the wink of an eye!"

source- http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/powers.phpPre-Crisis Superman's powers are a completely different conversation that regular Superman's abilities and they have no ties to any concept of realism in the slightest. The current Superman cannot travel beyond the speed of light. Hell, not even light travels at light speed within our atmosphere because it has to go through air, moisture, and everything else in its way. The only time that light reaches its true potential speed is in the vacuum of outer space. Of course, to reach light speed, an object would require infinite amounts of energy. Superman is powered by the sun. The sun does not have infinite amounts of energy to hand out to Superman.

To say that Superman can do anything at lightspeed is like saying gravity simply doesn't exist on earth, even though we're all obviously feeling its pull.

There are some scenarios where we can suspend our disbelief, but there are other situations where it's simply impossible to believe anyone can accomplish feat X if you have even the most simplistic knowledge of the physics surrounding the subject in question.

[existence]

You sir are indeed correct. I would like to state also for the record it has been some time since I’ve collected either Batman or Superman so I will admit to being out of touch.
What you mentioned can also be found here. http://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing43/feature2.shtml

As you progress closer to our current era of Superman you can read the abilities about Superman become blurred. Just like in movies, there are continuity errors. There is a vagueness to what his current powers are. It would be helpful if someone could find information on how fast he can move/fly/run.

From what I remember he could fly as fast as the Flash. Well.. Just a few feet behind the Flash, but that may no longer be correct.

But, just like the above poster stated, I think we all can agree that Superman can fly/run/etc faster than Batman can react. This should be enough to solidify the point even if Superman cannot achieve FTL travel.

Also as you stated about the science of physics, you are absolutely correct. But Spiderman wouldn’t be able to bench 10 tons from being bitten from a radioactive spider either. Nor would Superman be able to fly. We all just must agree to accept that Superman can do these things because of the yellow sun.

Does it scientifically make sense that Superman can fly just based on yellow rays? No, of course not. But we must accept this and move on and state this is something he can do.

Batman is easier to explain and believe. He obtained his knowledge from study and in this debate we incorporate that. There are tons of things that superheroes can do that is just not possible, but since we are told they can we have to examine the possibilities of the fight with those said powers regardless how unbelievable they may be.

It will be another what came first scenario… the chicken or the egg? While we may never know, it is fun to speculate from time to time.

Existence

[Spike_x1]

Also as you stated about the science of physics, you are absolutely correct. But Spiderman wouldn’t be able to bench 10 tons from being bitten from a radioactive spider either. Nor would Superman be able to fly. We all just must agree to accept that Superman can do these things because of the yellow sun.

Does it scientifically make sense that Superman can fly just based on yellow rays? No, of course not. But we must accept this and move on and state this is something he can do.I have no problem believing that the yellow sun can enable Superman to have his "self-telekinesis." Why would I have trouble believing that? I also have no problem believing that Spider-man would have superstrength based on his origin.

["Iron Man"]

Batman vs. Superman would end just like FVJ and AVP, a tie/not knowing who won....3 years later...HELLO Batman vs. Superman vs. Wonder Woman

[Soundwave88]

batman isnt scared to kill Superman

[The Question]

Also as you stated about the science of physics, you are absolutely correct. But Spiderman wouldn’t be able to bench 10 tons from being bitten from a radioactive spider either. Nor would Superman be able to fly. We all just must agree to accept that Superman can do these things because of the yellow sun.

Does it scientifically make sense that Superman can fly just based on yellow rays? No, of course not. But we must accept this and move on and state this is something he can do.

Actually, I've read some stuff on the issue, and SUperman's powers are quite plausible, after you take into consideration the fact that he's an alien life form who's body works in a way vastly different from out own. Basically, what I've read states that the yellow rays didn't make him able to fly. The lower gravity of earth and the yellow rays allowed a beforehand vestigial organ in his body that gives him the ability to manipulate the pull of gravity on his body vastly enhanced capabilities. And the organ itself is scientifically plausible.

[dnno1]

...Does it scientifically make sense that Superman can fly just based on yellow rays? No, of course not. But we must accept this and move on and state this is something he can do...

The truth of the matter is that most of the energy that we get here on earth is derived from sun rays. Airplanes and birds can fly as a result of the fuel they consume which ultimately came from plants which get their energy from the sun. The same principal would apply to Superman.

[dnno1]

I guess I saw (what seemed to be) the last episode of JLU this past weekend. Wow! Superman really let off on Darkseid! I have to give Batman a lot of props though. He has proven that he is not afraid of anyone no matter how powerful they are (but that doesn't mean he can beat Superman).

[Comicfan]

Every time someone ask that "who will win on a Superman vs batman figth" I get piss *yeah I know is stupid*, but, come on!... Superman will take batman down in less than a second...


(like in the comics, and show, when batman does his "stealth" thing with Superman -like leaving in the middle of a conversation- and Supeman is clueless about his moves... please.... Supersenses vs ninja skills....

And the winner is :supes:

[dnno1]

http://www.bleacheatingfreaks.com//files/News.11.6.5/iPod/Superman-VS-Batman-iPod-01.jpg

I found this one over at bleachcheatingfreaks.com (http://www.bleacheatingfreaks.com/showPic.php?dir=/files/News.11.6.5/iPod/). it was modeled after this one (http://elrobbo.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/supesbat.jpg). There are quite a few others that you might like there.

[Dr. Fate]

Everyone knows Superman owns Batman. They don't want to admit it, but that's the truth.

[Dr. Fate]

http://www.bleacheatingfreaks.com//files/News.11.6.5/iPod/Superman-VS-Batman-iPod-01.jpg

I found this one over at bleachcheatingfreaks.com (http://www.bleacheatingfreaks.com/showPic.php?dir=/files/News.11.6.5/iPod/). it was modeled after this one (http://elrobbo.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/supesbat.jpg). There are quite a few others that you migh like there.
Bwahahahaahaha! :up:

[MrFreeze101]

I reckon Batman would win simple fact he is a detective and he is a smart cookie hes got a great supply of kryptonite plus hes got different batsuits to adjust to supes powers and etc on the other hand supes is a pretty stiff challenge but in the end the dark knight in my opinoin would win and thats just my opinoin but i dont really wanna see a batman vs superman movie i think it wont work it would be to unbeliveable and batman and superman are good friends id rather DC put energy into a flash Aquaman green lantern captin marvel and of course last not least wonder woman.

[MrFreeze101]

Movies

[Farradin]

Superman can never beat Batman. Technically its a no-brainer that superman will win but comics can never allow that to happen.

[Spike_x1]

I reckon Batman would win simple fact he is a detective and he is a smart cookie hes got a great supply of kryptonite plus hes got different batsuits to adjust to supes powers and etc on the other hand supes is a pretty stiff challenge but in the end the dark knight in my opinoin would win and thats just my opinoin but i dont really wanna see a batman vs superman movie i think it wont work it would be to unbeliveable and batman and superman are good friends id rather DC put energy into a flash Aquaman green lantern captin marvel and of course last not least wonder woman.The period is your friend. Know it. Love it. :up:

[Two-Face]

I do not want to see "Batman vs Superman" movie, I rather have separate movies for both franchises.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

People would think that Superman would beat Batman, but in the Dark Knight Returns, by Frank miller. Batman actually KILLS Superman. This battle is not one sided at all. What do you guys Think.

Stop it, stop it. No, no he does not kill him. Go back and re-read it. Batman has admitted before that if Superman really wanted to, he would clean Bruce's clock.

[Naminton]

so what if Batman can remove a whole army of arsenal? People been a fan of Batman too much to realise the truth. Afterall, Batman is on a mere human, he's not Brainiac intelligence level 12. He's not even smarter than Mr. Fantastic. Superman can wipe out the whole planet. He moved the whole moon by himself in superman 3. People forgot that Superman can even spin the EArth reservse in Superman 1 to save Louis! talking about a man who can spin the earth reversing just by flying around it. Superman never fought for real, he always afraid to break things on EArth. He value Earth. Superman always held back when he's in a fight. I'm a dumb guy and i would know what to do with Batman if i was in a battle with him. Given that Superman is the son of a genius Scientist from Krypton, a planet far more advance than EArth. Superman i just use his superspeed, use his cold air and blow Batman outta space and use his Fire ray beam and shoot everywhere. All superman needs to do is give a big throw out of earth, and Batman would Die because no air = no life. If Superman plays dirty. He can use his microvision to see Batman from far away, use his superspeed to back attack Batman, and Use his super strenght to knock batman down. And keep on using his superspeed along with strenght and not allowing Batman to fight back. AFterall, he's only a human, if Superman kept on punching him like a thousand rockets coming in secs, no human can block. There are so much endless possibilities Superman can take down Batman.


In one of my encounter. I heard they'll make a movie Superman Vs. Batman. Where Batman's gf will died. And Batman blamed it on Superman. And they'll have a fight. Thats' what i heard. Batman, being his bad ass, will giving a dark role, where Superman will be on the bright side like always. I think Some people dosen't like Superman a lot compare to Batman because his power are given. Some people think it's too easy for Superman, where in other case. Other superhero had to pay to much to deserve there spots. :D

see Superman returns? the part where Superman rescue the whole city within secs by himself? for once, i thought it was over. He's just too quick and fast... no other superhero can save lifes more than Superman!

[Naminton]

Your entire opinion on this matter falls apart right there as you have shown that you know nothing of Superman compared to the threats that he faces, considering the fact that most of the villains that Superman fights are quite capable of putting a savage beating on him.

Would you consider Spider-man to be too powerful?








NOt always the case. You see? The writer let supervillians damage Superman for a reason, For THE ENTERTAINMENT DAMN IT! if Every movie, comics, Superman just Beat the living crap out of all the villian, then it wouldn't make the story interesting! accept it! Can anybody move a whole planet like superman? :/

[NosferatuMD]

What I think Miller's version was, someone in DC asked him to come up with a plausible way that Batman can beat Superman. Arguably 1 of the best writers,Frank Miller, came up with the only thing that can beat Superman...kryptonite. You have to know deep down, without that, Batman stands no chance against the Superman. Case closed.


Im not sure how old this message board is....but i agree with this post 100%. im both a Superman and Batman fan. you guys are killing me saying that Batman would win. You all know so much about these characters, but have the audacity to suggest that other than having kryptonite on hand, that Batman would even stand a chance. Last time i checked Batman is human and Superman is Alien with powers. no contest fellas.....

[pifpaf]

batman was beat by bane

[Clouseau]

i have a feeling Superman would win because of all his powers, but i'm sure Batman would at least put up a good fight... :cool:

[hippie_hunter]

In one of my encounter. I heard they'll make a movie Superman Vs. Batman. Where Batman's gf will died. And Batman blamed it on Superman. And they'll have a fight. Thats' what i heard. Batman, being his bad ass, will giving a dark role, where Superman will be on the bright side like always. I think Some people dosen't like Superman a lot compare to Batman because his power are given. Some people think it's too easy for Superman, where in other case. Other superhero had to pay to much to deserve there spots. :D!

That was the script they were going to use for Batman vs. Superman. Some people liked it, in my opinion, it sucked. It was scrapped for individual Batman and Superman movies and various sequels, re-establishing the Batman and Superman franchises separately, before a crossover occurs (making it more epic in a way)

[GL1]

Since this is a movie forum, here's how I'd do the Batman vs Superman movie.

Fight 1) First meeting as Batman investigates LexCorp in what can and is interpreted as Corporate Espionage, especially when Superman finds out Batman is Bruce Wayne. Batman pulls out the tasers, smoke pellets and batarangs that have NO effect on Superman, though Batman staggers the Big guy with a hypersonic emmitter. Superman is in control of the entire skirmish and it ends with Superman casually holding Batman up, with one hand over the edge of a building, calmly asking questions, demanding that he leave. Batman is completely embarassed and outclassed during thsi fight though he gets two notable hits off.

2) Batman comes prepared, not only with Superman's secret identity, but sonic emmitters, a well time emptying of the city's power supply and Kryptonite. He manages to blind superman for a split second with a powerful laser, the same way normal person could be blinded by a flashlight in their face. He pulls off a few tricks and then open up the K and hammers Superman with it, embarassing, telling him Lois is next. Batman leaves and Superman spends much of the movie SHOOK and totally scared of Batman.

3) Mind controlled Superman utterly owns Batman, breaking ribs, costume and bloodying him in three simple moves... Batman breaks the mind control by endagering Metropolis and depending on Superman to break the control himself. Batman's right, Superman is freed and the two team up to whup some Luthor/Metallo butt...

[pifpaf]

jessus he is just a man
sup is a nearly a god
superman drop a country over the head of batman and kaput no batman anymore more like batketchup! an voila finito batman

[Speedball]

What does Jesus have to do with this? :confused:

[Steelsheen]

i think he meant "geez"

[ShadowBoxing]

In movie verse, Batman has been taken from "one of the highest intellects in the DCU" to "of gifted intelligence". He is not even half the man he is in that regard. The movie probably puts him on par with DareDevil maybe, but probably along the lines of the Phantom (comic version) or Wildcat. He is certainly not the best battle tactician. Certainly not the wiz he is supposed to be at science (should I understand any of that?) and certainly possesses no krytonite. He would get owned.

[The Riddler]

batman will most certainly win.

[SouLeSS]

In recent comic continuality, Superman. Anyway.

He got his supermind back and it was upgraded.

The only way, and I mean only, is if Batman had enough kryptonite to surround a whole suit of iron armor, and hope to get a sneak attack off. But, with Supermans "I'm listening to 50 different news confrences and TV reports, as well as flying to save some people", I'm pretty sure he'de hear Batmans elevated heartbeat comming closer and closer.

[Magneto]

Well since this is listed in the DC Comics film board, I take it that it's basically Christian Bale's Batman vs. Brandon Routh's Superman?

Bale/Batman would win this soooo easily.

[GL1]

In movie verse, Batman has been taken from "one of the highest intellects in the DCU" to "of gifted intelligence". He is not even half the man he is in that regard. The movie probably puts him on par with DareDevil maybe, but probably along the lines of the Phantom (comic version) or Wildcat. He is certainly not the best battle tactician. Certainly not the wiz he is supposed to be at science (should I understand any of that?) and certainly possesses no krytonite. He would get owned.

Well, if they do a Superman Batman movie and Batman never gets his hand on any Kryptonite during the course of said movie, someone has missed the basic idea boat.

Nolan's Bat is still rich and resourceful, and not afriad to use it. Singerman is simply easy to get the drop on. He's a great guy, but not all that perceptive. Nolan's Bat with some K equals a good multi-fight conflict. Batman and Superman randomly fighting out of thin air OR Batman and Superman holding hands and skipping happily together towards the bad guy in instant friendship is insane.

[ShadowBoxing]

Given time to prepare, Batman. In a straight up battle no time to prepare, Superman.I hate this "given time to prepare BS". It's not like any fight starts with Superman sending Batman a month in advance letter saying "I am coming to beat you: and here is how".

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, if they do a Superman Batman movie and Batman never gets his hand on any Kryptonite during the course of said movie, someone has missed the basic idea boat.

Nolan's Bat is still rich and resourceful, and not afriad to use it. Singerman is simply easy to get the drop on. He's a great guy, but not all that perceptive. Nolan's Bat with some K equals a good multi-fight conflict. Batman and Superman randomly fighting out of thin air OR Batman and Superman holding hands and skipping happily together towards the bad guy in instant friendship is insane.He may be rich and resourceful but a guy who cannot kept his closely guarded identity from Lucius Fox and cannot solve a mystery without the help of Gordon is not really at all on par with the Batman of the comics. The Batman who so frequently finds himself the object of debate. Batman Begins Batman, while certainly a great version of Batman, is really a glorified ninja. He doesn't design his own tech whether he assembles some of it or not. So unless Waynetech is going to be ordered to create anti-superman armor and nuclear weapons which Wayne can cart home from applied science, there is no contest.

Also Superman of Singerverse may be not the brightest of the bunch. But he can withstand an Island full of Krytonite for a considerable amount of time and lift said Island over his head. He is massively strong in ways comic Superman hasn't been in a while apparently.

Also unlike comics, Batman's Nolanverse is extremely grounded. Someone as fast, as strong, as powerful as Kal El would hand Batman his a$$ in this Universe.

Simply put, the only character written not on par with his comic counterpart in terms of the question posed, is Batman. Resouceful as he may be he is obviously a far cry from the 158 martial art master, super-genius, Olympic athlete. Batman is the one who is at a chronic disadvantage in a Superman fight. Even if one includes the DKR other continuity battle. Batman has no definitive win against Superman, whereas Superman has thrashed Bats to near death.

[ShadowBoxing]

That's a picture from the dark knight returns. No infact Superman is not killed ny Batman there. Batman uses Kryptonite on him first and then starts fighting him. Getting in a few cheap shots. After Supes gets away from the Kryptonite the armor Bats is wearing breaks when it hit Supes. And Superman kills batman. Though we find out later he faked his death.Thanks for clearing this up :up: I hate people who say Batman killed Supes in DKR. It is the first sign that they have not bothered to read DKR.

[terry78]

Like I said, physically Superman would kill Batman. Mentally, Batman can break Superman down easily just with mind games, which could innately weaken him. Batman has told him off on more than one occasion, and knows full well he could snap him in half, yet he continues to talk to him like he's a mere mortal.

[ShadowBoxing]

Like I said, physically Superman would kill Batman. Mentally, Batman can break Superman down easily just with mind games, which could innately weaken him. Batman has told him off on more than one occasion, and knows full well he could snap him in half, yet he continues to talk to him like he's a mere mortal.That is also because Batman is extremely arrogant and untrusting of power (hence the spy satillite). Batman tends to think he is always right. I suppose that is why when Superman accidentally hand him his a$$ on the Watchtower it was such a hit to his ego. Being an a$$hole when you talk to someone is not winning a fight. And as others point out, Superman is intelligent. He wouldn't fall for some "mere mortal" bullsh** if provoked. Darkseid and Mongul, for example, touts the same mere mortal attitude when talking to Superman and have found themselves both defeated by Kal El. Batman is just Superman's friend, so Superman who generally holds back on humans, won't kill him. But as we have seen in issues such as "Lex Luthor Man of Steel" all the smarts in the batworld cannot save Bruce when Superman actually wants to fight him.

[Spike_x1]

NOt always the case. You see? The writer let supervillians damage Superman for a reason, For THE ENTERTAINMENT DAMN IT! if Every movie, comics, Superman just Beat the living crap out of all the villian, then it wouldn't make the story interesting! accept it! Can anybody move a whole planet like superman? :/You've not only shown me that you know nothing of Superman, but you've also shown me that you are an idiot.

[batbat_29640]

People would think that Superman would beat Batman, but in the Dark Knight Returns, by Frank miller. Batman actually KILLS Superman. This battle is not one sided at all. What do you guys Think. Um . . . no . . . Batman NEVER killed Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Bats just beat him bloody had a faked stroke and a funeral WHICH SUPES ATTENDED!!! Go read that book again and come back later.

[Spike_x1]

Um . . . no . . . Batman NEVER killed Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Bats just beat him bloody had a faked stroke and a funeral WHICH SUPES ATTENDED!!! Go read that book again and come back later.I don't think he read the book to begin with. He probably just saw a couple scanned pictures and made his own weird conclusions.

[batman7289]

hello

[batbat_29640]

It's like this. Superman fanboys are gonna say Superman. Batman fanboys are gonna say Batman. Those of us who actually "READ" the comics know for sure . . . You guys can argue all you want. We know the truth. Ya want real answers come to us . . . not sayin we're gonna give em right away but we do know the answer.

[Stringer]

If we're going off the recent movie characters Bales Batman would easily beat Rouths weeping stalker Superman:o

[dnno1]

I this one (http://howitshouldhaveended.com/Divx%20links/Superman.html) over HowitShouldHaveEnded.com (http://howitshouldhaveended.com[/url). You might need to download the latest DiVix player to view it but I found it quite funny.

[Spike_x1]

I this one (http://howitshouldhaveended.com/Divx%20links/Superman.html) over HowitShouldHaveEnded.com (http://howitshouldhaveended.com[/url). You might need to download the latest DiVix player to view it but I found it quite funny.Ah, the plotholes with Superman's speed in that movie. No shortage of laughs :D:up:.

[blksuperman2]

I this one (http://howitshouldhaveended.com/Divx%20links/Superman.html) over HowitShouldHaveEnded.com (http://howitshouldhaveended.com[/url). You might need to download the latest DiVix player to view it but I found it quite funny.

Hilarious. I love Batman's lines.

[dnno1]

Hilarious. I love Batman's lines.

Sweeeet!

[GarudA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA

Nuff Said

[batbat_29640]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA

Nuff Said Dude . . . ask you to refer to the Batman Superman movie by the very same animation team, writers, etc. Then come back.
Someone care to tell him what I mean?

[batbat_29640]

Ahem . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uklSyanOQfy . . . . I believe it was . . . "nuff said"?

[GarudA]

The video I posted clearly shows, if Superman really wants to beat Batman he would end up killing him. If Batman pushed him far to over the edge.

[Spike_x1]

This thread < Every other thread on the Hype.

[batbat_29640]

The video I posted clearly shows, if Superman really wants to beat Batman he would end up killing him. If Batman pushed him far to over the edge. There is no pushing when it comes to the Batman. I'll quote Wizard here . . . " No matter who you are, he will find your weakness and then he will find you and he "will" beet you!"

[GarudA]

There is no pushing when it comes to the Batman. I'll quote Wizard here . . . " No matter who you are, he will find your weakness and then he will find you and he "will" beet you!"

Seriously some Batman nuts are just crazy, according to you people Batman can even beat Doomsday in one on one combat. If not Doomsday, he can beat anyone no matter how powerful.

[batbat_29640]

Nope . . . he just held his own with Darkseid. Got the crap beat out of him too. It's like this, the only way they would ever fight is if either one of them went rogue. That would involve mind control of some sort. Neither would kill each other. Yes Superman would beat Batman if Batman went rogue, and Batman HAS
"on a number of occasions" beaten Superman. You Super nuts act like Clark has no weakness.

[dnno1]

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3231/batssupesnogo5oj.jpg

I bet deep down inside, Batman would love to just for one day be strong enough to clean Superman's clock. But we all know that ain't happening.

[JackBauer]

I bet deep down inside, Batman would love to just for one day be strong enough to clean Superman's clock. But we all know that ain't happening.

was it really necessary to dig up this god-awful forsaken thread to state the obvious?

seriously people, just let the thread die and stay dead, as it should.

[dnno1]

was it really necessary to dig up this god-awful forsaken thread to state the obvious?

seriously people, just let the thread die and stay dead, as it should.

Ah... yeah.

There are still people out there who still think Batman can beat Superman, so to them it is not so obvious.

[blksuperman2]

Since we're using Jim Lee pics. Here's what he thinks.

http://static.flickr.com/2/2012960_7df37c969d.jpg

[JackBauer]

Since we're using Jim Lee pics. Here's what he thinks.

http://static.flickr.com/2/2012960_7df37c969d.jpg

hehe, now that I like. :)

[batbat_29640]

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3231/batssupesnogo5oj.jpg

I bet deep down inside, Batman would love to just for one day be strong enough to clean Superman's clock. But we all know that ain't happening. Right . . . That ain't never happenin'
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/supermanvsbatman.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/hushbtam0dn.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/batmanvssupermanwallpaper.jpg

[dnno1]

We need to start putting video clips and animated gifs in here. Then it can get more entertaining.

[terry78]

Basically Batman with kryptonite reinforcment can take Supes down, but then again so could anyone.

[Crooklyn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/0662.png





:(

[batbat_29640]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/0662.png





:(That was just wrong man.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Right . . . That ain't never happenin'
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/supermanvsbatman.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/hushbtam0dn.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/batbat29640/batmanvssupermanwallpaper.jpghttp://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1626/justice55pw.jpg

[GL1]

I mean honestly, who does Batman beat in one-on-one combat? It's a rare day when Batman beats someone with his fists outside of Gotham... it's always some item or plan or weakness that he exploits. Same with Superman...

And to be fair, most people couldn't take superman with a little kryptonite. Even weak Heatvision would wipe most people out, end of fight, but apparently Batman's too smart for that, provided Superman is holding back... and Superman is ALWAYS holding back...

[Ultimate_Superman]

Aftermath of what a real fight between Batman and Superman is like

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8200/as642qd7.jpg

[Savage]

They can both kick each other's ass. The end. Jesus. It's like Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion all over again.

[JackBauer]

y'know what's funny? in order for Batman to win, it's always like "oh, if he had prep-time" or "oh, if he had kryptonite" or s#!t like that. even then, people are under the assumption that Superman's a f***in moron and will fall for anything Batman comes up with...

[Taiwarriorz21]

Batman wouldn't said a chance against Superman. If he used kryptonite then that would make him similar to other criminals hince "lex luther". So Batman couldn't beat a being that has superhuman abilities such as supersonic speed, flight, x-ray vision, lazer eyez, crazy breath skillz and so forth. Batman is awesome, but overall he wouldn't stand up to Superman. Superman is in a league of his own.

[Savage]

Why does everyone assume fist fight when they see the word fight? Going by the logic you're losing, Batman should not even be alive right now. Do you honestly think he can survive going hand to hand with Killer Croc? Or Clayface? BANE?! Why is it that we can say "Batman can beat Bane. No problem." and explain how but when someone says he can beat Superman with kryptonite, everyone screams "Nuh uh! That's cheating!"?

[Canadian Rider]

I voted based on the following.

In the JLA storyline where Bat's information is used against them, it is clear he has planned this and knows how he will win.

Bats also has a different outlook than our friend the "boy scout." He would want to win just to say he won. Supes doesn't care enough.

[batbat_29640]

I voted based on the following.

In the JLA storyline where Bat's information is used against them, it is clear he has planned this and knows how he will win.

Bats also has a different outlook than our friend the "boy scout." He would want to win just to say he won. Supes doesn't care enough. As much as I agree with you on the JLA storyline . . . Batman would not fight Superman just to beat Superman. Nor visa versa. They're friends. Like I said before they only way they would fight is if one went rogue due to mind control.
And by the way guys. Why did Superman give Kryptonite to Batman? Because he knew that Batman could beat him if it came down to it.

[batbat_29640]

I mean honestly, who does Batman beat in one-on-one combat? It's a rare day when Batman beats someone with his fists outside of Gotham... it's always some item or plan or weakness that he exploits. Same with Superman...

And to be fair, most people couldn't take superman with a little kryptonite. Even weak Heatvision would wipe most people out, end of fight, but apparently Batman's too smart for that, provided Superman is holding back... and Superman is ALWAYS holding back... Admit it . . . you haven't read many Batman comics have you?

[Savage]

He's right though. Batman rarely beats someone with flat out hand to hand. That would make for a boring comic. Batman doesn't just show up and beat everything in sight. He's like Bruce Lee. He looks for the quickest way to get the job done.

Great point with Superman trusting Batman by the way. Superman handed it to him because he KNEW he could trust him to beat up. Wonder Woman had it and she got b**ch smacked back from the sun to earth.

[Savage]

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